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Speaker 1: All right, Aaron Roderick, offensive coordinator BYU quarterbacks coach, address.
Speaker 3: The media yesterday.
Speaker 1: Let's get into some of these comments from a Rod
how he's feeling about his team, his quarterback, his offense. Aaron,
give us a brief debrief of how you think the
offense played versus Texas Tech.
Speaker 6: A tough day at the office. For sure, we did
not play well at all. First of all, I want
to give credit Texas Tech. That's a very good team.
One of the best defensive lines i've eeric coach against,
if not the best.
Speaker 5: They they put together a heck of a roster there.
Speaker 6: However, there was a lot of things, a lot of
mistakes we made pre snap. We had a lot of
trouble with the crowd, noise, trouble hearing the play call,
made a bunch of pre snap mistakes in that game
that really cost us.
Speaker 5: And then.
Speaker 6: We did weren't weren't able to get anything going in
the run game, and then of course in the passing game,
we it took seven man protection to block those to
block their their fur d linemen, and then we're running
a lot of three man routes and into deep zone coverages.
It was really tough to get open. So yeah, it
was a really tough day. We played poorly, and we're
just trying to put it behind us and move on now.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was a difficult time down there on
love it no doubt BYU's off, it struggled. What happened
was a four man rush, got home, collapsed the pocket time,
made time out every single rep, it seemed, and Bay
he was having to for the most part in order
to yet time. In order to to to to provide
time to bear Bachmar, they had to leave tight ends
in and they had to chip with their running backs,
essentially double teaming the edges and the guards struggled to like, honestly, like,
I don't know how many how many series in which,
like I felt like the offensive line was winning more
than they were losing, and that that's hard, that's very difficult.
Speaker 4: They were getting pushed back quite a bit as I
was as I was watching, you know a lot of
the steps are lateral. Those guys were those guys were
in the backfield hitting LJ very early in the play
where he was trying to make adjustments from the line
of scrimmage instead of being able to see the field
and make that first step through the line of scrimmage
and then go from there. He was getting hit in
the backfield and that's when she can't establish a run.
You can't do much of the pass either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's plenty of Like I would say, at times
there was miscommunication. At other times guys were just losing
one on once. They were sometimes they were losing double teams.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were scared they were getting split on their
double teams. Weren't coming off the ball together and square.
They were getting split and they were those the delignmen
from from Texas were stand low. I mean they paid for.
Speaker 1: Him, no doubt about it. It was it was difficult to watch.
It was difficult for all of Kugarnation to consume quite honestly,
because the offense never got into rhythm.
Speaker 3: That one drive it was decent.
Speaker 1: It looked like they went tempo and uh, no huddle
and and they were able to drive down And in
most of Kugarnation.
Speaker 3: Was like, why did we do that prior to the
middle of.
Speaker 1: The fourth quarter? And that's valid, that that's of course valid.
Do you think they should have went tempo at other
times in the game when when when it was obvious
they were struggling with their traditional huddle, uh slow tempo
kind of they're like there four minute to six minute offense.
Speaker 4: I know the bear bear Berry rarely makes a facial expression,
you know, adjustment, right, He's always very calm vert there.
But it looked in that in that case that he
was getting prey frustrated a little bit. You could tell
by his body language, you could tell by when he
was getting hit pretty tough that that it was he
was bothered a little bit.
Speaker 5: Let alone.
Speaker 4: You know, b YU during the daytime and in the sunshine,
for some reason, aren't as good as the night of
the lights.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you wonder those daytime, mid day kickoffs, et cetera.
If that's a boon, if that's a that's a blessing
for BYU game day, when all eyes are on b YU,
they are zero and for all time on game day,
whenever game day shows up. And the lot of hype, Yeah,
there's a lot of hype, and and look, the moment
was too big for him. Everyone's dropping passes, no one's
blocking anybody, we're uffing punts or.
Speaker 3: Patentsa thumbing up.
Speaker 4: No, it really would. That's I mean that's literally as
I'm watching the game in my house, and that's you know,
you're like, can just one thing go right? All right?
It was you can't get the run game going. Everybody's
dropping passes, the screens are getting broken up and back,
you know, behind the line of scrimmage. It was just
can we just break one thing? And okay, now let's
lean on that and that'll open up some other things
for us. Offensively, I mean, you know, their their offense
is good too. Our defense played a heck of a game,
had what five sacks, did a great job. But you
know he can't get to that field when're the we're
on the field that much.
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the sound Aaron Roderick uh breaking
down the efforts uh down there in Lubbock.
Speaker 3: This one's about h l J.
Speaker 4: Martin.
Speaker 1: How did l J come out of this Texas Tate game?
Speaker 5: Good?
Speaker 6: Yeah, he felt good in the game played. I thought
he played well.
Speaker 4: You know, he didn't.
Speaker 6: We weren't able to give him a lot of carries
because in the second half, once we got down three scores,
we had to just go two minute and try.
Speaker 5: To stay in it.
Speaker 6: And so but he felt good and he's he's ready
to play, ready to play again this week.
Speaker 1: Gonna need the best l J. I don't a Rod
said he played good.
Speaker 4: Anytime you come off a shoulder injury, you're a little
You're gonna be a little bit tell me to drop
your head. It's just it's just the physics of it.
The hesitant, right, You're not gonna you know, dip your
head and take that shoulder, that shoulder collision on as
much as you would when you're when you know, when
you're fresh and healthy, there's just that hesitation. Like you said,
it's it's tough because that's the kind of downhill runner
he is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yeah. LJ was fine, Like he was good,
but he was not like good enough to make a
huge impact. And granted, just it didn't help that there
was never a moment where b why you had any
sort of momentum right, And typically you know, we see
a little bit of a momentum shift with a momentum
shift with the Special Teams unit, and they were giving
momentum to Texas Tech. So it's kind of been sequential
at times in these close games where you know, the
special team the offense may be sputtering a little bit
early on, they're just not all that effective, and then
maybe Special Teams slipped the flips the field or has
a big return or creates a turnover, and then the
offense starts to rev up and the catalyst sometimes is
based off of the Special Teams unit, and the Special
Teams unit just kept given momentum away to Tech.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean those those drop the drop punt the
field position over like back and forth. It was just
they just kept getting good field position and just igniting
that stadium and taking the momentum away from us and
each one of those you know, drop passes, dropped punts,
you know, interceptions by them. It was just one thing
after them, just ignited their crowd and got them into
it even when it started to lull a little bit,
and just continue to feed their momentum all game for BYU.
Speaker 1: Great offensive tackle Dustin Reicherd here as my coach today.
Speaker 3: Let's get into number three.
Speaker 1: Chase Roberts in his postgame mentioned not having enough explosive places.
There's something you guys can do in the final three
games to give that explosive burst that the offense needs.
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, we've had a lot of explosives this year.
And that game though, was tough because, as I explained,
we were, you know, that four man rush is pretty intense,
and we were using seven guys to protect and then
you only get three people into the route and sometimes
you get a check down or two, but it's hard
to get people open when their linebackers are dropping super
deep in their secondaries, not letting.
Speaker 5: Us behind them. Sorry, And so it was.
Speaker 6: Tough to make get an explosive play in that environment.
Speaker 5: And you know we thrive. Our explosive plays come off.
Speaker 6: Of our you know we we we established the run
most games, and then our play action passes are where
our explosive plays generally come from. And we've been able
to do that in every game this year except Saturday,
and so we got we got to get back to
back to our identity.
Speaker 1: Got to get back to the identity, get to expect.
I mean, LJ and Bear have been your primary runners.
You've You've had some complimentary rushing and maybe Cody Hagen
on Jets, Parker Kingston on Jets and reverses, et cetera,
but it's been primarily Bear and l J, and neither
one of them were all that effective versus tech defense
are front.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think they've both taken some big
hits the season. I mean, when you're asking your quarterback
to take that that draw on your first down and
expect to get three four yards every time, but know
that he's going to get blasted by that metal linebacker
outside linebacker of safety coming downhill hard on him. He's
going to get dinged up. So if you if you're
going to expect that, you got to know that, you
know towards the end of the season, when you start
playing these big games, he's gonna be a little bit
worn out, so he may not be as productive as
you were in the first four or five games. But
you just kind of they just kind of exposed, you know,
their their weakness, right, they just kind of got exposed.
If you shut down the run LJ and not allow
Bear to get going, they're, like you said, that play
action isn't very you know, they're not going to let
you get over the top of them.
Speaker 3: Hot take.
Speaker 1: Just thought of this, I think ba you would have
been able to establish the run even better had they
just gone every single one of these any every single
one of these rushing attempts baar Bach myer under center
toush push, every single time baar Bach my under center
touch push, would they have ran the ball more effectively
putting Bear bach my under center and then LJ pushing
him in a tush push.
Speaker 4: They would have had to respect it. They would have
had to come downhill for it. They got they chase
it up, right, those safeties would have kept. Then one
time he goes to lean forward and steps.
Speaker 1: Back and you got yeah, little pop pass right, little
fake fake tibo fop Honestly, I was kind of thinking
about that, like, look, yeah, you gotta do what you gotta.
Speaker 4: Do anything, you know, I mean, you gotta get something
going and change the flipped that momentum. You know what
they coming back after after halftime had the ball that
That's what I was sitting there saying, you know, right
before they had the when they had the ball going
into half, I'm like, you got to put something on
the board here. You're to get the ball back. You
can get back in the game and make this a
one score game in the second half.
Speaker 3: Yeah. You just look at the drives and it was
just abysimal. It just was not good. Uh.
Speaker 1: It wasn't not necessarily like three and outs like that.
They were like no, they were like six and outs. Yeah,
you know what I mean, like a first down and
then and then and.
Speaker 3: Then's butter, right, and that's butter. Uh. He did mention
Chase here.
Speaker 1: I was just tallying the stats of the pace at
which Chase Roberts has been playing. He's had a good
season thus far, and it could turn into a great season.
With three games remaining of the regular season and a
bowl game or more, we'll see how it plays out.
With BoA's got to win out more than likely, they
got to get to the Big twel championship game and
be more competitive than they were versus the first go around,
versus Texas Tech in order to get into the COLLG
Football Payoff in my opinion, but a two loss team
in BYU with two losses to a top five Texas
Tech team, I think should get you into the College
FOOTBA Playoff'll see how plays out. But Chase Roberts, I
think he needed to play better if he wanted to
win or you want to keep this game closer. And
he had three drops technically crucial ones crucial. I mean
they were tough catches, all three of them. Yeah, But
if you want to be an NFL watch it. You
want to be considered one of the greatest to have
done the Royal Blue and White, you got to make
those catches. With three regular season games remaining and a
guaranteed bowl game, will BYU wide receiver Chase Roberts do
what only eleven other wide receivers have done in BYA
football history. He's got thirty eight receptions, six hundred and
fifty two yards seventeen point two yards per reception. Will
he eclipse one thousand yards of receiving production.
Speaker 3: He's on pace right now with.
Speaker 1: Four games remaining guaranteed for just to scout just to
hair under one thousand at ninety nine hundred and fifty yards,
meaning he's within striking distance. If he averages ninety plus
yards per game over the final three regular season games
at a bowl game, he'll surt pass one thousand. Are
you picking the over or the under here?
Speaker 4: I mean, this is this is what you know. It
always perplexes me as an offensive coordinator. Do you start
thinking about, you know, your seniors or guys that are
kind of the you can and you can together? I mean,
you're trying to start focusing throwing towards them a little
bit towards the end of the season.
Speaker 3: I do think you have to.
Speaker 1: You have to, not even statistically, I mean obviously you
need your playmakers to make plays. Has Chase Roberts made
the amount of plays that you expected him to as
the wide receiver one of this offense.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm going to say that he has done the basics.
He hasn't exceeded expectation. He's done He's made, Yeah.
Speaker 3: He's made.
Speaker 4: He's made good catches. He's made greator but he's dropped
some key ones. He's he's had his body in the
wrong position to you know, to be able to bring
in some of those tough passes that could have you know,
some of them. He was wide open and could have
turned into a lot of yards after the catch. But
like I said, I think he's he's met expectations, has
not exceeded it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's an interesting debate, no doubt I
feel the same way. I would say he's met expectation,
not exceeded it. You don't have a Puka Nakua Boise
State catch this year. You don't have an Austin Cally
two thousand and eight at Washington performance where he's just
just dominating, just beating anybody and everybody. You don't have
that performance. Some people say, well, you know Chase had
what was it was it the the West Virginia Gambley
pull at the the game log here? What has been
his his signature game this year? And it could be,
you know, on the DCU game, it could be the
Cincinnati Cincinnati game on the road, It could be the
UCF game when it matters most. But like some people
would say, Iowa State that was huge game. That was
the signature. He had eight reception one hundred and twenty
eight yards sixteen yards per reception. No touchdowns though that
that's kind of what I'm getting at. The Colorado game
was solid. Five receptions, forty nine yards, two touchdowns. Has
he had a signature game though in your opinion?
Speaker 4: No, because that I mean that that's that's what is
ultimately creates your draft status. You got to have a
breakout game. When I play with Doug Jolly, he had
a game against air Force. I think he had like
eight receptions two hundreds, like something crazy. He just went off.
They couldn't guard him. He was running all over the place,
catching the ball over the place, and that made his
draft status. Yeah, and that I think he went like
second third round. But that game really focused those scouts
and create creates some amazing film for him, because that's
that's what it comes downs.
Speaker 1: They're looking at upside, they're looking at like ceiling, right,
and when they see a dominant performance like that, they're like, Okay,
like this, this guy's capable of winning in the NFL, and.
Speaker 4: Our coaches are going to get out of him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and our coaches we we will be able to
get it out of him, right, and so there's a
little bit of pride and ego involved in that.
Speaker 3: They need to see the ceiling.
Speaker 4: Though, for sure they got to. He's got to have
that breakout game to be able to move move himself up.
I mean, all the intangibles and the physical things are there.
Like you said, he's just got to have one of
those Pooka games too, because Pooka set the trail for
him right now. He's gone in there and exploded in
the NFL and understood, you know, what it takes to
be a professional there and has created a lot of
attention for, you know, those that are coming up behind
Pooker like, hey this he comes from this same program,
so obviously there's gonna be extra eyes on him.
Speaker 1: So these are the ride receivers that have had a
thousand yard receiving seasons. Austin Colly two thousand and eight,
Cody Hoffman twenty twelve, Andy Boyce nineteen ninety, Renal Mahi
two thousand and one. You were there, Dax Milne in
twenty twenty at seventy receptions for one thousand and one
or eighty eight yards. Jay Miller and seventy three, Eric
Drage nineteen ninety two, Margin Hooks nineteen ninety nine, Todd
Watkins two at four, Chuck Cutler nineteen eighty eight. Eric
Drage is the only wide receiver to do it twice.
Shout out to Eric Drage, Shout out to dra I'm
gonna have to text him. We have to send this over.
We may have to get Drage on the line today
as well. And then Mark Bellini, uh is the number eleven.
Speaker 4: I think Drake still plays flag football. Him and Charlie
Peterson go out there and start fights.
Speaker 1: Charlie can still sleep starting Charlie is.
Speaker 4: I think he still got a six pack. I mean, dude, he's.
Speaker 3: Work is he just stay at home all day working out.
Speaker 4: He hangs out. I think he's a teacher. But his
wife makes all the money building crazy houses and he
just rides that. And I mean got some great he
has got some great posts on LinkedIn. I'll tell you
what well.
Speaker 3: I love his LinkedIn post.
Speaker 4: Shout out to Charlie Peters shon, shout out lad ride
them coat tails. Baby, Hey man, I'll.
Speaker 3: Tell you my dream.
Speaker 1: I've said it on the show before, Like my dream
was to be a stay at home dad. Like you know,
I just I'll be honest, that's my dream, stay at
home dad. You know, obviously I can't bear children though,
so like I have to put in the work in
the front end, and then maybe after we have him
raised at like school age, and then my wife could
just go full time work and I'll be the stay
at home dad. I'm planning on it.
Speaker 4: Heat picks, baby beat picks.
Speaker 1: I got to start. My only guess touching it. I
don't know if I got the feet.
Speaker 4: I don't either mine or disgusting, but I'll bet somebody
likes him. Number four puppies jelly.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: How do you think Barrett Bachmeyer immediately responds after the
game and how do you expect him to handle it
moving forward?
Speaker 6: He was really hard on himself, you know, he felt
like it was his fault, and you know it, I'm
not surprised that he's a freshman. He finally, you know,
he finally had a bad game.
Speaker 5: It is what it is.
Speaker 6: He's uh, He's played so well all year and each
week he's exceeded our expectations, and then this game he
had had a tough game, just like all of us did.
And me included, and he felt he felt really bad,
and I've just been trying to, you know, let him
know that it's a team game. We need all eleven
guys to play their best, and our coaches, we all
have to coach better. And I expect him to bounce
back and play well this week.
Speaker 1: If you're an offensivelignment, right, you're dealing day in and
day out, eye to eye, shoulder shoulder with your quarterback,
your true freshman quarterback. What do you say to Bear
who's played really well and done some great things and
he's coming off with the most difficult guts maybe one
of may it may be the most difficult game that
he has ever played in on the road Texas Tech,
with that against that defense, under the lights or under
the the kind of the purview of game day and
all the millions of viewers that watched it, Like, what
do you tell?
Speaker 4: That's what I think it's got to come down to that.
You got to help him understand that was a huge platform.
You're nineteen years old, right, It's all it's gonna be
uphill from there. Now. You've seen the hype, you've seen
game Day, you've done all the interviews before the game
in the hotel, like all of those things that distract
you from what your play calling and your performance is.
That's I don't know if it's necessarily what they're trying
to do. They're just trying to create attention and hype
around you. As a friend that's come out and gone
eight and zero and had an amazing season, now you've
seen how to handle that right, what I did right,
what I did wrong, and how do we move on?
How do we get better from here? But you have
to be able to move on and learn from those experiences.
That's how you get better and I to you become
a professional.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite books that I've ever read, and
I did have. I had this mentality even though I
didn't know I had this mentality a little bit on
my after my mission. I figured out because of the
way that I failed on my mission. Essentially in summary,
like I was a zone leader and then I was
training for like nine months straight and we had like
a bunch of baptisms fall through, and I just felt
really depressed and I felt like I was failing everywhere.
I was just spread thin, you know what I mean. Anyway,
I read the book, you know, later on in life
in twenty and sixteen is the publication data. It's the
subtle art of not giving a formication under the consent
of the king.
Speaker 3: Under the consent of the king.
Speaker 1: It's like the chapters in it are are these, it's
kind of interesting. Don't try meaness is a problem. You
are not special. The value of suffering you all. You
are always choosing. You are wrong about everything. But so
my failure is the way forward.
Speaker 4: I've listened to it and the guy has an Irish
accent and it really is harsh. It's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very harsh. The importance of saying no and
then you die. Like so it's like, don't get so
involved emotionally and psychologically that that you're you're.
Speaker 3: Living in the past.
Speaker 1: And John Beck said it probably best earlier this week
and saying like I love the the the term or
the adage, the phrase, the refrain.
Speaker 3: Uh, there are no rear view mirrors, right right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can watch it, you can watch it and
see you see what you can look from, but don't
dwell on it.
Speaker 3: Don't keep looking back.
Speaker 1: And so I think that's a key for Bear, is like,
don't give a crap about what just happened. Let's just
go out and ball today. Let's go out in ball tomorrow.
Let's go out and ball versus TCU.
Speaker 4: And that's you know, that's I mean that that that
that is Colonie's message, right is being to all right,
that's that's done. Let's move forward. Everything we've learned, let's
move forward and not look back at that. We are
a good team. We have talent, we have good players,
we have leaders, you know, we have everything we need
to get to the Big Four Championship and then have
a shot at possibly getting in the tournament. So that's
I mean those in the playoff you know, playoff run.
So those are the messages, you know, like exactly what
you said. It's not looking back, making sure that you're
learning from your mistakes and not going back and repeating
them and just being able to, like you said, the
art of not giving a Kings issued profanity.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, let's take a brief time out.
Speaker 3: We'll be back.
Speaker 1: Dustin Ryker forward, b Yu great left tackle by my side,
talking some BYU football.
Speaker 3: Next thing up.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll listen to a Rod discuss
what adjustments he needs to make in order to make
this run game more effective versus TCU et cetera.
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Speaker 1: Great offensive tackles was blocked with the dope Walker Ard
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of the few the proud offense attackers in colleg football
history to have received a pass and to score a touchdown.
What was that play called, by the way, and it
was that the two thousand and one.
Speaker 4: Two thousand and one, Yeah, trips left uh trips left
slant over twenty two twenty two attack or something tackle
eligible tackle was called. So we got that that run
and then we got down about the eleven yard line
down there in Memphis against Louisville. And so the play was,
you know, I'm supposed to kick step and let that
defensive end come running around and then kind of keep
back pedaling. He throws me a lateral back, you know,
back to me kind of cross the field because he
rolls out right and that it was the left tackle,
so he's supposed to kind of throw it across the field. Well,
I start kickstepping, and Reggie White, the defensive end who
ended up getting I think he went first round that
that year out of out of Louisville. He stopped and
didn't didn't rush, and so I'm like, oh, this is
not gonna go. So I know it's a long pass,
so he's got time just teem me up. So I
catched the ball. I turned t TA wide and my
guard just came over and locked up with him, and
I ran to play. Gave him a little stiff arm
heisman heisman, uh, stiff arm around the corner and then uh,
I think that the safety came over the top and
tried to take my legs out from me at the
one yard line of the dove in the end zone.
And it was so cold and there was so much
paint on the end zone that it was like skates.
So I jump up to start celebrating, I slip and
fall down, so I'm floman coming down the end zone.
They're celebrating with me and jumping around and causing a ruckus.
I think we ended up getting a celebration penalty, but
he used to kick the field goal. Thank you mc pain,
Thank you mister Payne.
Speaker 1: Great to have you in studio. Love hanging out with you.
Ronald the three Man Weaver also in studio or behind
the glass bread always bringing the hammer helping us out
here as well. As we break down the news and
notes today, we'll get back to some Aaron Roderick sound
here momentarily. But my guy John John B. Shout out
to you man. Mormon chapter eight babies. What he says
about not looking in the rearview mirror, this is good.
I like to get scripture. I like to pontificate about
the palabres of our Lord and Savior and the prophets
of old. At first, Morona I Is talking about all
the problems, and then suddenly he says, I make an
end of speaking concerning this.
Speaker 3: People love it. Then he looks to the future.
Speaker 1: I am Morona, I am the son of Mormon, and
I'm going to finish this record.
Speaker 3: No rear view mirror.
Speaker 1: Love that, John b my guy appreciates you, uh sharing
that with me, because look, these are these are eternal
principles too, and they're not just these modern day principles
that that that we learned through modern day philosophers and authors.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: These sure these are eternal principles that we need to
apply in our lives, right because we're always front facing
where eternal beans. We got to move forward. And if
you have that eternal perspective, then you just get to
work the next day. Because by the sweat of your
brow dust it tell the sweat of your brow don't
and thistles thou shalt eat.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, if I kept looking in the
rear view mirror, that'd be a'd be a long road.
I've had to overcome a lot of challenges in my
days and just said, you know what, I'm the man
I am today, and we're moving forward. Let's go looking
in the We're not looking at the rear view mirror anymore.
Speaker 1: And Barny's the not looking that rear view mirror. All right,
guys a lot. Let's get back to So I need
to clarify something, Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 4: His name is Dwayne White, not Reggie White, the past
Reggie anyone disrespect that the past Reggie White. But it
was Dwayne White.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, No, I was like, I don't think
I said that right right when.
Speaker 4: I did it. It is Dwayne White. And he came
out early in the two thousand and one draft, Louis
will Is.
Speaker 3: He the best of the end that you faced?
Speaker 4: No, Reggie, Uh, not Reggie. Dwight Reynolds from Florida State
my freshman year and then uh, mister Dwight Freeney. Oh wow,
Dwight Freenanie. I got me my third start up in
Syracuse on their turf in there in their aluminum dome.
And I've never tried to block somebody that had the
shoulders sole low to the ground and was still running
full speed.
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't get it how he was physically doing what
he was doing, running, scraping his elbow around the corner,
and I'm like, what am I supposed to punch here?
And I'm and he's already like, I'm starting my kickstep.
Can't hear anything. So I got to look at the
ball and start my kickstep and he's already two steps upfield.
I'm like, so uh, bless your soul. Mike Camp he
had to get me on the phone to record you're
losing your cool. We're gonna pull your for a little bit, mister.
Aaron mcobbins came in and give me a little give
me a little break in my head straight and then
I came back in and uh, poor Brett, don't Brett
Brett Ingeman got blasted in the end zone. I think
tore up a shoulder and it was a mess. So
it was a rough one. That was a rough one.
That was my like, okay, welcome to Division one. My
guy had done. You know, great players to Teminali and
Brian Frisk and all those guys in practice that I
had gone, But this was different. This was way different
speed of the way these guys come around the corner
and and the way these guys play was was different.
That was kind of my welcome. It was the coach's
classic in Florida's Jacksonville against Florida State.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The the short stout, explosive six foot six, two hundred
and sixty pound d n that has bend. It's the
Sean Merriman's, It's the Von Millers. Those are probably the
most in my opinion, the most difficult. And the long
guys too like that have better reach than Obviously those
are the ziggy onse type of build up.
Speaker 3: But I would say that.
Speaker 1: The six foot two and under two sixty with explosive
plow metric and it bend.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the hiflection is just unreal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those those and I have not been a tackle
by ityways, but I've seen many tackles struggle with that
over the years. It's just hard, guys. Let's get back
to the sound. Appreciate Dustin Ryker being by my side
here now looking into this week, a rod, what adjustments
do you need to make in order for this run
game to be effective again.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're a good team. First of all, TCU is
very good in their own right. Very impressed with them,
and coach Avlos is a very good defensive coordinator. So
we have our hands full and uh but you know,
we we do have a good offense, We have a
good identity, and we just want to get back to it.
Speaker 5: We just need to execute better.
Speaker 6: And being at home I think will help because, like
I said before, the crowd noise was a big factor Saturday.
We did not handle it very well. We used a
silent cadence Saturday that we had never used before, did
not did not do very well with that. And at
home we can get back to just playing our style
of football. And uh but we are playing against a
very good team. I'm I'm very impressed with these guys.
Speaker 1: Look, there's gonna be excuses about heading out the Lubbock,
the noise, the competitive environment, you're playing on turf, unfamiliar ground,
all eyes on you. He was a big moment, Like
the offense just did not meet quota at all.
Speaker 3: And that's a really good defense.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take anything away from that defense
and I'm not trying to be too harsh on our offense,
but we need to be a little bit better. And
we can't say you're gonna have to go beat Cincinnati
on the road, okay, and that's gonna be a tough one.
Speaker 4: That's gone, that's gonna be a rough one.
Speaker 1: So hopefully the lessons learned it at Tech and Lubbic
can now translate over to and then no, you gotta
focus on TCU. It's all about TCU. It's all about
playing home field, focus on the main thing, keeping the
main thing the main thing. But the following week, I'm
hoping that those lessons learns and love it can be
translated over to this preparation for Cincinnati on the road.
Speaker 4: Well, because that's gonna be that final run right when
you're trying if you do if that is your you know,
obviously everybody wants to win, but that's I mean, we
have to win out to have a shot at playing
for that Big Talk Championship. You have to understand of
what's on the line when you you know, go after
go through t to you and you go out there
to Ohio Cincinnati, it's going to be hostile, it's going
to be dark, it's going to be they're they're gonna
get after you. They're not you know, they're they're not
the the Cincinnati of Old of the Lollipops the last
couple of years. They're They're a good team that are.
They're disciplined and they get after the ball. So, like
I said, it's you're not taking anything away from from
the defense at Texas Tech or you know, being too
harsh in the offense. But you got to be have
a reality check, like you gotta do things different. And
a Rudd's been you know, vocal about accepting you know,
his ownership and his his part and play calling and
not getting after them early and establishing that run. But
the players have to too. It's got it's time to
step it up and finish finishes, seeing strong and not
have the continual role at the end of the year
and playing down to your your opponents and all those
things that way to struggle with them.
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest surprise in the game from
a running standpoint of like LJ only having ten carries
and thirty five yards three point five yards per carry,
it's respectable versus the Texas Tech defensive front that is
actually respectable yards per carry Versus Texas Tech, Bear.
Speaker 4: Would be I would be hiss and offensive line.
Speaker 1: But on average, like like Texas Tech is one of
the best defensive fronts in the country, and they're limiting
I mean they're they're holding teams below. That is what
I'm getting at Bear Bachmeyer was maybe the biggest sur prizes.
Bear couldn't find anything no in the run game, could
not fall forward, could not make anybody miss. Those safeties
and linebackers were were just closing up space and uh
and wrapping him up so he couldn't do anything. So
that that was maybe from a rushing standpoint, maybe the
biggest surprise in the game is Bear had no way
of finding daylight.
Speaker 4: Take ownership. I mean that's each each one of the
you know, each one of those position groups have to
take ownership of where they didn't perform where maybe that
the scene was too big, where the you know, whether
they didn't lead as seniors, as as the kind of
the older guys in the group, that they didn't step
up and pull the guys together and get their head
on straight before you know, at halftime or whatever. It
was just as long as you're taking to take the
ownership and move forward, like you said, no no room years.
That's that's going to be the key to finish this
thing out and winning out the rest of the season.
Speaker 3: A Rod.
Speaker 1: Did the wind affect your play calling at all?
Speaker 3: Number six?
Speaker 5: A little bit? Not much. It was more of a
factor in the special teams. I thought that one punt that.
Speaker 6: Parker struggled with that was a sixty yard punt in
the wind, and it was a tough one to field.
But it was a little bit of a factor in
the passing game.
Speaker 5: But no excuse there.
Speaker 7: I mean it was just we we we did.
Speaker 5: Not play well enough to win.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I do think two of the punts for b y
U Sam Vanderhard, he had two shankapotamuses.
Speaker 3: Not good, not good at all.
Speaker 1: You were trying to pin on one on one, you know,
one time or late in the game, and then the
earlier Shanka Potamus.
Speaker 4: Was like what was that? That?
Speaker 1: Definitely he was it was in his head. I mean, look,
the moment was too big and you had to win.
And that's that there sphinters man, he's got a real tight.
Speaker 4: It's and it shouldn't be. I mean, they're there, the
their culture that They've established an understanding that made themselves big.
We are that. You know, we are b yu you.
We are coming in here, we are competing. We are
the you know, the the alpha.
Speaker 3: Think about it. Think about a moment for you though
two thousand and one.
Speaker 1: Did you feel like a game was too like the
moment was too big for your team? Uh?
Speaker 4: Or that that opener was? I mean it was. I
mean it was the only game on, it was open.
It was kind of the preseason game at first kickoff,
classic game, and they had just come off. I think
that they get the national champion in two thousand, I
mean they had Winkie. I mean they had a great
they had a good squad.
Speaker 3: So you're talking about two in two thousand. B Way
football too.
Speaker 4: That it was two thousand.
Speaker 1: With you talking about Florida State. Yeah, yeah, Florida State
August twenty six. Yeah, Yeah, the moment was too big
for you guys, look at.
Speaker 4: You twenty nine to three. I mean it was it
was rough. It was I mean we were at we
were down there all week, you know, trying to get
acclimated to it. It was hot, I mean it was
blazing hot. And then it was a night game in Jacksonville,
and you know, it was just one of those things
that came out and it was like, WHOA, these guys
are different. I mean their speed was different there, the
way they play was violent, and it was kind of like, WHOA,
this is not it's not what I saw a training camp. Yeah,
it's not what I saw a training camp. I mean
we were you know, we had some decent players, but
it was just like, whoa, this is the next level.
So it was it was definitely one of those games
where this is this is bigger than what we expected.
Speaker 1: It's tough, man, There's been plenty of those moments, I
think a Bway Football History number seven. Looking back at
the game plan, is there anything you would have done
differently A Rod?
Speaker 5: Yes, but I'm not going to tell you what it is.
Speaker 1: But yeah, hey, honest, valid and forth right.
Speaker 3: We love a Rod.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 4: Everybody's listening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone's listening, including us. Last year, you guys suffered
back to back Lossters. How do you look at that
and and what happened on Saturday and make adjustments to
the game prep so things can go differently this weekend.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 6: We have talked about that, we've addressed it, and I
think we're trusting in the fact that we have a
lot of veteran players who I think have learned a
lot of good lessons from the past. And you know,
Colonie always talks about, you know, situations like this, it's
an opportunity to learn and if you don't, if you
don't use it as an opportunity to learn, then it's
a waste. And so we're disappointed with losing, but it's
a great chance to learn some good lessons and try
to play better this week.
Speaker 3: Pressed it it? Should you address that internally? Right?
Speaker 1: I think the coaching staff is going to talk about it.
Do you address it internally to the team?
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I mean you have to identify it,
like I said, take ownership of where your part is
in it.
Speaker 1: But about last year, like say, hey, last year, right,
we lost two consecutive games after starting the season undefeated,
being you know, in the driver's seed of the Big
Twelve championship game, all those things, Right, do you bring
that up?
Speaker 4: I think that's one of those things. That's that's river mirror. Yeah,
that's that's that's We're not gonna dwell on that. We're
because once you bring that into the forefront of their minds, like,
oh wait, that could happen. Oh yeah, that starts, Then
that starts snowballing. You know, it's someone and you got
a young guy that doesn't know how to handle that
or or or compartmentalize that in his head. No, that
was last year. That's not us, that's not who we are.
That's we are a new team. We're a new identity.
We are the Alpha, we are the winners. You know
that that mentality, if you bring those old things up,
it can play play into it indubitably.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm right there with you. It's like, now, man,
we're gonna focus on us this week. We're gonna foc Obviously,
you do your scatter report. Obviously you look at your
personnel matchups. Obviously you do that. But you you focus
on how to get better and how to win every
single day, how to win every single Repuh going to nine?
Do you feel a rod Do you feel like you'll
still use spare in the running game going forward? Although
Texas Tech was very much ready for it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sure they were. Yeah they were.
Speaker 6: They were pretty dialed in on stopping Bear from running
the ball. But yeah, he'll be a part of our
run game every game.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's a great movie. Of course, Bear Bachmeyer
is gonna run the ball. Of course, so they're going
to continue to run the ball with him indubitably.
Speaker 4: Indubitably from the program running back right here. When he
had this, he he was trying out all the new
words and reading the dictionary. He busted out, indubitibly, we're
gonna be the best. I'm gonna be the best running back.
We're gonna run the ball over him.
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't know if our listeners the program. I don't
know if they do. I know that, I don't know
if Ronald or I'm looking over at hammertime. Have you
ever seen the program? The movie the program. It's on
your to do list and you're young, okay, and Ronald
hasn't here.
Speaker 4: See it is that the Angel Flecks version.
Speaker 3: No, don't do that. You gotta watch it. And it's
entirely it.
Speaker 4: Is that that movie. I watched every single.
Speaker 3: Look that.
Speaker 1: Angels that what he's trying Angel Flex Okay, Angel Studio.
Speaker 4: About Like I'm okay with that. That's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like, don't watch it on your kids, and
if your wife is not okay with a few curse
words here and there. Don't watch it around it Like so, dude,
of private space is a study. It's an independent research study.
Like were you yourself?
Speaker 3: You yourself? You know and your football self is.
Speaker 1: Getting into the nineties football programs of what it was
all about, dude, and it's crazy, man, I mean, look,
I love the program. It was fantastic. I was in
high school. I think when the program the movie came out.
Speaker 3: Let me see what year it was.
Speaker 1: So, No, I wasn't even high school yet, so that
was that was like, man, I was only like eleven
when that thing from No. So, but we'd go back
and watch it. We'd watch that before games like, so
it was. It was a part of like my culture
in high school at Mount Ridge.
Speaker 4: Baby, dude, I got, I got, I got. I had
to sit out the first quarter of my very first
football game ever. I was a freshman coming in. Watched
that game with all the I was, you know, played
up to JV as a freshman, so with all the
sophomore guys thought it was pretty cool. We go in
and watch the movie at one of the you know,
the guy's house, and I knew knew the thing word
for word and we come run around the field. We're
kind of doing our half half field lap and I
scream out die and I yeah, I said, I said
it real loud, and it wasn't. It wasn't real loud.
The music wasn't playing the pregame and just came over. Guy, Yeah,
you're sitting out the first game. You can't say stuff
like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah you can't say that, but you cannot.
Speaker 4: It was it was. There was just you know, there's
just some some key phrases from that movie. You know,
Latimer and uh run the linebacker, how he'd got in
those guys head oh man before the snap. The things
that he said to those quarterbacks running backs about their family.
Speaker 1: Well I remember hearing of like guys like going into
the street, like you know, got like real people going
into the street, like kind of like laying there in
the street and having cars like go over.
Speaker 4: I think that happened in Arizona.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I'm telling you man, Like that's why I remember.
I was like, don't be that stupid. Yeah, yeah, stupid.
But like there there was good influence and bad influences.
Speaker 2: What there was.
Speaker 3: It's a cont it's a controversial movie.
Speaker 4: It was one of those things. Okay, this is this
is what they took the glamorize or the crazy.
Speaker 1: It's like the hyperbole and crazy stories of college football
and high school football meshed together.
Speaker 4: It was I mean, I think it was based around
Florida State. I mean, could baseball colors and stuff like that.
It was kind of they kind of took some of
the stories and made it kind of around Florida State
and some of the things that came out of there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, if you haven't seen it, you need to. It's
on your If you're a football fan, you need to
watch the program. This is this encompasses and pitabizes what
nineties football, probably mid eighties through the nineties.
Speaker 4: There's no tiktoks in the locker room.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that, no, none of that.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: A lot of controversial culture that that that definitely would.
Speaker 3: Be canceled this day.
Speaker 4: And oh my goodness, there's.
Speaker 3: No doubt about it.
Speaker 1: A lot of hazing, a lot of debauchery, a lot
of hedonism, all manner of viousness as well.
Speaker 4: I mean that the quarterback goes into treat and goes
into rehab halfway through the season and gets it comes
back at the Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, man, there's a lot a lot
going on there. Yeah, number ten, you say it's it's
more of a it's it's that's what I say. You
got to look at it from it like it's like
a it's a study. It's you going back into the
archives of history and understanding all of the craziness that
was probably occurring.
Speaker 3: It's cert within certain programs. Let's get to number ten.
Speaker 1: What did you think of Joe Joe phillips performance, Uh
in coming back?
Speaker 5: He was a little rusty.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it kind of reminded me of you know,
Parker missed most of fall camp and then didn't took
him a couple of games to get it going, and
then he ripped off four or five great games in
a row. And I feel like Jojo, you could see
he was a little rusty out there. He hadn't played
in what was it, seven eight weeks, and I expect
him to just get better each game. You know, he's
really high character kid. Same same as Barry's kind of
hard on himself. He felt like he let us down,
and I told him, just you know, you just keep working,
you'll play better each game as you get back into
the swing of things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jojoe, you know, he's got to get back into
the swing of things and didn't have his best performance
in his career by any needs.
Speaker 4: No, Definitely a tough game to come back to off
injury where you're you know that that's a big magnifying
glass on you if you know obviously you know if
you're number two, Yeah, you got to show up and
be number two when that ball gets tossed to you. You
got to make sure you're making plays and getting a
hold of it, not letting them fumble off your chest.
Speaker 3: Can't have that, know if the answer butts about it?
Last thing?
Speaker 1: Over the years, a rod boy has had some struggles
against the TCU Horned Frogs. You weren't necessarily a part
of it, but uh, why do you think Bay you
struggled versus TCU.
Speaker 6: Yeah, TCUs is a great program and they have been
for years. I had a bunch of good battles with
those guys when I coached up the road, and I
know b Yu's had a bunch of good battles with them.
Speaker 5: Over the years.
Speaker 6: Two years ago we had a pretty humbling loss down there.
So yeah, we we know what, we know what we're
in for Saturday. We know this is a good football team,
well coached team, and they're tough and they're super athletic,
and we're expecting it to be a really tough game.
Speaker 1: They go, that's a rod and getting into some of
our questions and polls of the day, chime in on it.
Speaker 3: Want to hear from you.
Speaker 1: A couple of things that I put out as far
as the questions are conserved questions and polls of the
day at Crittle Benjamin, if you'd like to chime in.
Speaker 3: One of them is Chase Roberts.
Speaker 1: Are we gonna see Chase Roberts eclipse one thousand yards
this season? I feel like the reason why I bring
this up is because, like the conversation preseason was like,
do we have.
Speaker 3: A thousand yard receiver and a thousand yard rusher? Remember that?
Speaker 1: And that's where in order for BAU to win a
Big twelve championship, we felt like Chase and LJ needed
to lead the way. And even though you don't put
a quota on this, like you have to get a
thousand yards to solidify yourself as great, like we kind
of felt like playmaking would would ultimately lead to the
thousand yard performances like and I don't know if either
one of these guys is gonnaclipse it, but we're right there.
And just like we were right there to make a
big twelve championship game last year and we didn't. Right,
That's what I'm talking about, is like Chase if he
gets over one thousand yards, if LJ is gonna get
over a thousand yards, I feel like we're probably in
the big total championship game for sure.
Speaker 4: I mean, those are those are good. Those are those
are stats that should equate too with sub championship and wins. Right,
if you have your your one receiver and you're one
running back making place creating, you know, those opportunities to
hit those stats, you should be in the w.
Speaker 1: Last two games for LJ, fifteen carries and fifty yards. Okay,
that's where he's having around. I got deemed up in
the Iowa State game. He's back. Got to see more
of them because he is on pace right now eight
hundred and twenty four yards rushing, five point eight yards
per carry, five touchdowns along with forty nine but he's
teetered off a little bit in the last two games
obviously the two games prior to that, one sixty two
and one twenty two versus Arizona and Utah.
Speaker 3: Let let's go LJ.
Speaker 1: Let's go chase and hopefully bear Bachmeyer can hand the
ball off to him and throw the ball to him.
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