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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to iball hero Fox Sports Fortune fifteen.
Speaker 3: I'm Steve, He's Jay. Now we have one with breaking news.
Speaker 2: This is I on the Ball, Breaking news on Fox
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Speaker 4: Happy Friday to everyone out there. From your shoe of
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Speaker 4: Starting off breaking news with the kind of controversial awarding
Speaker 4: of the Olympic Bronze Middle Uh for the Romanian gymnast
Speaker 4: and Barbosu. She actually got it to she got them
Speaker 4: visit got it. She was presented at the Capitol. She
Speaker 4: said it was heavier than she thought it would be,
Speaker 4: but she'd wear it every day.
Speaker 3: Well it's so heavy, you know, she shouldn't even have it.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you this.
Speaker 5: I saw that she had made a statement about it.
Speaker 5: What would you say if you're her and I have
Speaker 5: The reason I ask is I don't know. They're both
Speaker 5: deserving obviously or not. But yeah, the other girl won, well,
Speaker 5: not according to the I will see.
Speaker 3: Well, I know, but over some you know, technical ruling,
Speaker 3: who had the best score the girl who didn't get
Speaker 3: the metal? Simple as that. Yeah, I don't I don't
Speaker 3: want to but fight with you. But look if they
Speaker 3: had said, you know what, with all this controversy, all
Speaker 3: this stuff, and let's just give them both the bronze medal,
Speaker 3: I had no issue with that. Yeah, and that's what
Speaker 3: the people were saying. And I had an issue with that.
Speaker 3: But I don't know why. No, I think I think
Speaker 3: the girl who had the best portion of have gotten that.
Speaker 3: Things fair anymore. I don't know.
Speaker 5: You're probably right, but I wonder what she said, you know,
Speaker 5: I thank you whatever. I appreciate her for doing what
Speaker 5: she did.
Speaker 3: It was close. I don't what do you say? What
Speaker 3: do you say? Social media?
Speaker 4: I would probably just try to stick to the thank you,
Speaker 4: thank you, the opportunities all that to the NFL. After
Speaker 4: placing J. J. McCarthy on IR, the Vikings have signed
Speaker 4: quarterback Matt Corral Who Matt Correll? You played? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay,
Speaker 4: I think he was drafted by the Panthers.
Speaker 5: Okay, there's gonna be a lot of young quarterbacks in
Speaker 5: the league this year, a lot of good ones, former
Speaker 5: college good ones.
Speaker 4: I'm honestly surprised that with with McCarthy being out, some
Speaker 4: of these other teams, the Falcons, the Bears, Broncos, they
Speaker 4: haven't already said like, hey, we're gonna we're gonna sit
Speaker 4: them out the rest of the preseason, get them ready
Speaker 4: for the season.
Speaker 6: Yea.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so they ay Man, Colin Kaepernick's out there,
Speaker 3: they could have had him. Well, he's no coach going
Speaker 3: to be I'm going to be a coach.
Speaker 4: For the Bengals. They're tackled Deontay Smith suffered a Potellier
Speaker 4: tendon injury. Said he's gonna be You're gonna miss the
Speaker 4: upcoming season.
Speaker 3: Yea, God, yeah, he just gets sick to your stomach
Speaker 3: when you hear these guys, you know, or they spent
Speaker 3: all off you know, getting ready for a season and
Speaker 3: then they're not. They don't even get to the season
Speaker 3: and they're that just gotta suck. And when do you
Speaker 3: think about it too, You're you know, you're an athlete,
Speaker 3: you've got X amount of years to play, you just lose.
Speaker 5: Well, we just lose one of our guys that we
Speaker 5: had on the show, a guy who I kind of
Speaker 5: think of his a friend Punxtra, right, he was all
Speaker 5: he did was catch touchdowns here and he went to
Speaker 5: San Francisco. We got on the I R there and
Speaker 5: played was on the practice squad or whatever it was.
Speaker 5: And he's out because of his injuries and what that
Speaker 5: dude could leap out of tall builder.
Speaker 3: That's just too bad. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Sticking with the Bengals, they have agreed with their kicker,
Speaker 4: Evan McPherson on a three year, sixteen point five million
Speaker 4: dollar extension. I think he's one of the best kickers.
Speaker 5: In a year Steve to kick a football. Well, we
Speaker 5: picked the wrong profession, we did.
Speaker 3: I could have been a kicker. Yeah, it's funny. It's
Speaker 3: because I was short.
Speaker 5: It's funny when Eric Grudgery, I was short. I was
Speaker 5: the short pudge. You want to know you're not. No,
Speaker 5: we were the short pudge he was. We're still the
Speaker 5: short pudget was even today the short Well, we wish
Speaker 5: to be six.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 4: So on the topic of Colin Kaepernick, he was offered
Speaker 4: that job by Jim Barbark, but he won't be on
Speaker 4: the coach coaching staff this year. He said, there's a
Speaker 4: possibility of in the future.
Speaker 3: I wonder what he's doing. What's yeah, I mean you
Speaker 3: know what, Yeah, I guess he's holding out to play.
Speaker 3: But Colin, it's just yeah, you know, it's it's time.
Speaker 3: You haven't played in so long, Nico, give him a call.
Speaker 5: You told me, get over it already, and you know,
Speaker 5: figure it out, because how many years has been. He's
Speaker 5: got to be thirty two ish, thirty three ish, No,
Speaker 5: and he's older than that, okay, even more, even more so.
Speaker 4: He stuck around for his colleges, right, he like finished
Speaker 4: it out.
Speaker 5: So at that point you already what twenty three, Yeah,
Speaker 5: he's about thirty two thirty three.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's getting looking him up? You going
Speaker 3: to google him? He is thirty six? Oh yeah, okay, coach,
Speaker 3: start coaching. He's thirty he's thirty six, and he hasn't
Speaker 3: played since two thousand and sixty sixty eight years. What
Speaker 3: would take the damn coaching job? Take the job?
Speaker 4: Well, Harbaugh said that he's not going to be a
Speaker 4: coach this year because his coaching staff is set for
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I see. It wasn't a we can't Oh oh,
Speaker 4: I thought he didn't want to. It's his coaching staff.
Speaker 4: Thank you for stra this season. Okay, just thirty ready
Speaker 4: to go?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Coaches?
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 4: Final thing with the NFL that I have preseason week two?
Speaker 4: This week, he goes beat the Patriots last night, Drake
Speaker 4: and May got to show what he could do. He
Speaker 4: let us scoring drive.
Speaker 3: Is he gonna be the starter?
Speaker 4: So the head coach Mayo, He said that the competition,
Speaker 4: the quarterback competition is definitely not over.
Speaker 3: Who's the other guy over there?
Speaker 4: They it's not that Jones it No, he's with the Jaguars.
Speaker 4: He's competing with Lawrence.
Speaker 3: Right, well, he's backing up Lawrence.
Speaker 4: He yeah, I was trying to be nice. No, but
Speaker 4: I think they drafted the the Tennessee quarterback along with
Speaker 4: the May Joe Milton.
Speaker 3: I think, okay, all right, he's been doing it too,
Speaker 3: So that's one of those guys.
Speaker 4: More than likely. I think they think they have. Jacob
Speaker 4: Bybers said too, I'm not entirely sure. Okay, all right,
Speaker 4: tons of matchups this week. Should be fun to see
Speaker 4: some of the rookies go out there and make the plays.
Speaker 4: Uh to the college world. There is a substantial doubt
Speaker 4: over a company of one of the University of Miami boosters,
Speaker 4: John Louis his company. They don't know how financially stable
Speaker 4: they are right now. So it's one of the first
Speaker 4: stories where you're not sure if that school's gonna get
Speaker 4: that money. Right.
Speaker 5: Well, that was the quarterback, didn't they when he left
Speaker 5: he was offered allegedly ate thirteen million.
Speaker 3: Oh, that was Florida. Who was this? This is Miami University?
Speaker 3: That was Florida.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was something similar though at Miami where you
Speaker 5: know the name of the company.
Speaker 3: But this guy Ruiz, he's been there have been questions
Speaker 3: about him for a long time right right now. But
Speaker 3: the one you're talking about that and then the guy
Speaker 3: and then came to a su and I was out
Speaker 3: of Florida.
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, I thought it was Miami. Okay, because that
Speaker 5: the one with Ruiz you said is right, he's been skeed.
Speaker 3: He's been sketchy for her for a while.
Speaker 4: Well, it'll be interesting to see what happens with Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: So much of this though. It's just like, I mean,
Speaker 3: the collectives and whoever. Do you just got to do
Speaker 3: your homework on somebody before you roll somebody outs? Oh
Speaker 3: these are our guys, right, because there's there's shady people
Speaker 3: out there.
Speaker 5: I don't I don't envy the universities. I don't anybody
Speaker 5: the people who are giving the money, because it's never
Speaker 5: gonna end. It's never gonna end. Because you know, if
Speaker 5: you had money, jenasku us, would you give it away?
Speaker 3: Would you give? And not just this year for years
Speaker 3: to come? Right? Yeah? I just guess five million bucks
Speaker 3: a year was like what?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they've dubbed him the Miami and I l King.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they might take that title away.
Speaker 4: We'll see what happens with that nickname. Uh So we
Speaker 4: talked about it a little bit earlier, but the ex
Speaker 4: Michigan staff are Connors. Stallions is now coaching added Detroit
Speaker 4: High school defensive coordinator, which is, for no, a low
Speaker 4: level analyst. I had read somewhere that he was supposed
Speaker 4: to be the defense part. But a low level analyst
Speaker 4: for a high school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of low level, isn't it. Don't tell
Speaker 3: that to an high school coach for somebody who thought
Speaker 3: he was on his way to a college coaching job, right,
Speaker 3: or at least that's what he was trying to do.
Speaker 3: So you know, you know that he's not he'll he
Speaker 3: will never be a college coach. The penalties and stuff
Speaker 3: like that for for this still have to go out
Speaker 3: and the details of exactly what he was, how this happened,
Speaker 3: and what he was doing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's taking in college. The Rutgers athletic director Pat
Speaker 4: Hobbs has resigned from the school and in one of
Speaker 4: the stints as being one of the longest tenured eighties,
Speaker 4: but he said it was overhealth concerns. He's consulting with
Speaker 4: his cardiac team.
Speaker 5: So there they've been my son I noticed my son
Speaker 5: went to school there, But they've been horrible athletically forever.
Speaker 5: Now they're halfway decent. They're getting to be getting they're
Speaker 5: competing right for whatever that means. I mean, maybe everyone
Speaker 5: says I'm going to do it for my family.
Speaker 3: I've heard a couple of people predict that they think
Speaker 3: that Rutgers can get into the big Big Ten championship
Speaker 3: game that you know, mess gonna be down a little bit.
Speaker 3: They lost a lot of guys, lost their coach, all
Speaker 3: that stuff, uh. In Ohio State's kind of hiding shoulders
Speaker 3: above everybody. They're just saying after that, it's anybody's thinking,
Speaker 3: don't be shocked if Rutgers finds itself in the in
Speaker 3: the Big Big Ten Championship championship. You still you still
Speaker 3: do you have some stuff?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: This might have been talked about yesterday, but Ohio State
Speaker 4: official name their starting quarterback as Will Howard, he transfer
Speaker 4: from Kansas State.
Speaker 3: Yeah we need that. I mean we knew that that's
Speaker 3: where they were headed. I mean, that's everybody's talking about.
Speaker 3: And then the question is, okay, you know, as a
Speaker 3: plug in quarterback, can't he carry Ohio State where everybody
Speaker 3: thinks they oh to go because they feel like you've
Speaker 3: got all the other pieces?
Speaker 4: Last thing I have. Arizona Soccer started their season last
Speaker 4: night and they secured their first win, beating GCU.
Speaker 3: I think it was an exhibition though, wasn't it. I
Speaker 3: believe it was. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I'm pretty
Speaker 3: sure that was. But they lost their exhibition last year,
Speaker 3: so that's certainly better than than than than then then
Speaker 3: you know where they've been. What did I saw? Something?
Speaker 3: Said Steve, and I'll come in with one real quick.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: So you know our buddy Eddie nuon Is and that
Speaker 3: name is something familiar, right, we had him on the show.
Speaker 3: He is that New Mexico. Right, he was the college
Speaker 3: basketball oversight commandity.
Speaker 5: Right, he's a finalist for the only two people left
Speaker 5: Houston University of Houston.
Speaker 3: And in the story.
Speaker 5: And I don't know if you know this because I
Speaker 5: kind of didn't know this because we asked him about
Speaker 5: being interested in Arizona.
Speaker 6: He was.
Speaker 3: He danced around it and said, you know, no whatever
Speaker 3: that he was, he was a finalist here, a finalist Arizona.
Speaker 5: I don't know how true that is, but there was
Speaker 5: there was reports out of out of there that he
Speaker 5: was a finalist out here for whatever reason. I don't
Speaker 5: I'm I didn't hear that, but but that's what it's saying.
Speaker 5: So he might be gone to Houston.
Speaker 3: Yeah. That so you you find your thing? No, I
Speaker 3: have one more.
Speaker 5: So I get this thing from Shapiro and then we
Speaker 5: talked about it every now and now again. This is
Speaker 5: the Big twelve preview analysis of best plays from Action
Speaker 5: Network Arizona Best bets for Futures. Arizona State is the
Speaker 5: worst team they go worst team under four.
Speaker 3: And a half.
Speaker 5: They're saying under four and a half Arizona, and they
Speaker 5: go worst of best Utah to make the College Book
Speaker 5: playoffs plus two sixty Iowa State to make the Big
Speaker 5: Twelve Championship plus four seventy five. They go to Arizona,
Speaker 5: which is the fifth place team over five and a
Speaker 5: half Big Twelve wins. That's that's a play. I think
Speaker 5: that's gonna happen. That's that's that's the play. They say, well, look,
Speaker 5: we say we say eight nine, we say jay, we
Speaker 5: say eight or nine, right, gwinns total, So they're gonna
Speaker 5: win the tourst two and we've said okay, they go
Speaker 5: to and two and they finish what.
Speaker 3: Is it you said five and a half five and
Speaker 3: a half? I think you go if they win their
Speaker 3: two non conference games and you think they're gonna win
Speaker 3: eight games, then you should take that. Take that right,
Speaker 3: right dang. And then here's another one. I wish you
Speaker 3: would have told me that.
Speaker 5: No, you're you're already getting juiced up for this, okay.
Speaker 5: And then here's another one. The pick Arizona Conference wins
Speaker 5: total five and a half. And then he kind of
Speaker 5: said minus won twenty five.
Speaker 3: That's a minus one twenty five.
Speaker 5: Okay mm hmm, yeah, all right, and then Arizona state
Speaker 5: that pick is under four and a half minus fifth one.
Speaker 3: They're gonna that's the play under four and a half,
Speaker 3: over four and a half for over five and a
Speaker 3: half for Arizona under five and a half or four
Speaker 3: under four and a half total game total wins. Yes,
Speaker 3: you for a big twelve a you under four and
Speaker 3: a half, big twelve wins. I'm on that all day,
Speaker 3: all day. Yeah, yeah, okay, all right, no, yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean Steve, you know what, Yah, I'm sorry for contributing.
Speaker 3: My wife is going to be is really gonna be
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Speaker 3: what are you doing? I said, Well, Steve told me
Speaker 3: you give me a call.
Speaker 5: The listeners who are listening, they're my witnesses. He doesn't
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Speaker 2: Breaking down all the exes at OHS. It's Steve Lavera
Speaker 2: and jakins Os. This is I on the Ball on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to the ball here on Fox Sports
Speaker 3: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve. He's Jake. Now we have Jake
Speaker 3: Fisher from the u A formerly linebacker, all that stuff.
Speaker 3: How are you, Jake? Happy Pride, Happy Friday.
Speaker 5: Hey, we were talking about some things yesterday and then
Speaker 5: today it came up Jared Tavis's name. It came up
Speaker 5: some Scooby rights. Of course, some of the the great
Speaker 5: players that were not hot he thought of, but over
Speaker 5: time showed that they could do in time. And I'm
Speaker 5: saying this, you come to Arizona. They came to Arizona,
Speaker 5: and Scooby was a little bit different, and you you
Speaker 5: had to bide your time and then showed what you
Speaker 5: could do. Not many kids in basketball specifically don't want
Speaker 5: to wait to buy their time.
Speaker 6: No, and especially these days with the transfer portal, a
Speaker 6: lot of folks are wanting to you know, if they're
Speaker 6: not starting that second year or in basketball that first year,
Speaker 6: they always try to find a higher suitor and they
Speaker 6: wanted to go somewhere where they can go ahead and play.
Speaker 6: But you know, guys like Scooby, he came in and
Speaker 6: he went to the school of hard knocks. I've never
Speaker 6: seen a coaching staff ride a guy that hard, especially
Speaker 6: because they knew how great that he could be because
Speaker 6: of his natural ability just to always be around the ball.
Speaker 6: He was strong when he came in. It's very surprising
Speaker 6: when you see a kid at that statue who only
Speaker 6: had literally like one offer other than Arizona, and I
Speaker 6: don't think it was a power five school, and then
Speaker 6: Tavis when he came in, he was a little smaller,
Speaker 6: and then he had, you know, a little grosspur He obviously,
Speaker 6: you know, was always in the weight room working you know,
Speaker 6: tail offs, so you know that one was not as surprised.
Speaker 6: He's just seeing how hard he worked being around him
Speaker 6: for a year or two before. But yeah, those guys
Speaker 6: they came in they you know Scooby obviously he had
Speaker 6: to by his time in camp he started with the threes,
Speaker 6: and then by the end and probably by the end
Speaker 6: of four Watchuka, he was already going with the ones.
Speaker 6: So different stories, but the same result.
Speaker 3: And have you and have you also seen the opposite
Speaker 3: where you see a guy who's just got all the
Speaker 3: talent in the world, the physical capabilities, the size, all
Speaker 3: that stuff, and then that you just feel like if
Speaker 3: you only had a little bit of something else, you'd
Speaker 3: be a great player. I mean, how often did you
Speaker 3: think you saw that?
Speaker 6: Well in the old Pac twelve remember Oregon USC and
Speaker 6: you know, to some you know, to some degree Washington,
Speaker 6: they got the guaranteed players that they knew were going
Speaker 6: to be really good or at least have a chance
Speaker 6: to be really good. A lot of the other guys
Speaker 6: in the middle. You know that includes Arizona. We would
Speaker 6: go out and recruit a guy that looked like he
Speaker 6: had it to all the talent in the world. But
Speaker 6: you know, for whatever reason a couple of the bigger
Speaker 6: schools would back off. And whether it was not necessarily
Speaker 6: grades all the time, but you know, whether it's any
Speaker 6: attitude adjustment or something else in their background. And you know,
Speaker 6: you have these teams like Utah, they find a lot
Speaker 6: of those guys that aren't highly sought after, but they
Speaker 6: see some and then they have a good enough coaching
Speaker 6: staff to where they're going to go ahead and they're
Speaker 6: going to develop them the way they want. And you know,
Speaker 6: that's what a school like Arizona has to do when
Speaker 6: they're going against the scs and the Organs, or you know,
Speaker 6: if you're going and dipping into Texas, going against Texas,
Speaker 6: Oklahoma and these other big time schools. So if you
Speaker 6: have a good enough coaching staff, they have an eye
Speaker 6: for talent, They've been doing it for a while. I mean,
Speaker 6: the Whittingham way works. You just have to have the
Speaker 6: right guys right right.
Speaker 5: So we're also talking about this, So you have a
Speaker 5: kid and the Arizona has one. You go from the
Speaker 5: lower level or a perceived lower level school to an
Speaker 5: upper level school or at least a little higher one,
Speaker 5: and then you have a guy from a higher level
Speaker 5: school coming to here as well, who has a better
Speaker 5: chance of doing well.
Speaker 6: I guess it just depends on the kid in the situation,
Speaker 6: you know. I mean we get guys from SC over
Speaker 6: the last few years that come in and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 6: well we didn't play at SD. It's like it's sc
Speaker 6: They get four and five stars all up and down,
Speaker 6: you know the deal, and you know, maybe they had
Speaker 6: a anging coaches and they wanted, you know, a different
Speaker 6: guy for a different philosophy, or it just didn't work out,
Speaker 6: you know, and you can be successful that way. Obviously,
Speaker 6: have a guy like a Jacob Cowing come from what UTEP,
Speaker 6: you know he wanted to be Yeah, he wanted to
Speaker 6: be closer to home. That one worked out for us.
Speaker 6: So it depends on the kid, and it's really up
Speaker 6: to the coaches and their connections to kind of, you know,
Speaker 6: decide whether or not it's going to be a good idea.
Speaker 6: But you know, you can't just go out there blind.
Speaker 6: I think some of these coaches have such good connections
Speaker 6: that if a coach has a kid that wants to
Speaker 6: leave and you've got a connection with him and you
Speaker 6: ask him, hey, do you think this guy's going to
Speaker 6: pan out? I mean, he's going to tell you the truth.
Speaker 6: He's not going to you know, be fu So uh,
Speaker 6: you know guys like that. I think it's just more connections.
Speaker 6: It's you know, knowing that you have an eye for talent,
Speaker 6: knowing that maybe they had a couple of different defensive
Speaker 6: coordinators or you know, maybe they just didn't get their
Speaker 6: shot if they're at a bigger school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know, I mean, you know there's some
Speaker 3: great exempts. You brought up Jacob Cowing, who is a
Speaker 3: you know, great example of you know, somebody moving up
Speaker 3: up in the neighborhood. Then you had Bill Norton who
Speaker 3: was at Georgia and couldn't get on the field and
Speaker 3: so he said I'm coming over here and he was
Speaker 3: really good, and so you know, I motivate. Now he's
Speaker 3: at Texas. So he did well enough to get himself
Speaker 3: another gig. But you do, you wonder, and then there's
Speaker 3: other times, Look, there's a guy that sticks in my
Speaker 3: mind Lewis Holmes, right, the guy who was a physical specimen.
Speaker 3: We thought, Arizona never gets a guy like him. And
Speaker 3: he was okay, but he wasn't great. And you see
Speaker 3: that and you go, what's happening there? And you wonder
Speaker 3: about that. I don't know if I know Lewis. I
Speaker 3: don't know anything about him other than maybe we got
Speaker 3: caught up in his body or something. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, what happens there? Do you think with coaches?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 6: You know what, Sometimes the coaches they see, you know,
Speaker 6: they see a guy with some sort of crazy physical
Speaker 6: stature or crazy you know, physical abilities, and they say,
Speaker 6: you know what, if only I can do this, you know,
Speaker 6: I can have myself, you know, an NFL player and
Speaker 6: all of the American player. I mean a few years ago.
Speaker 6: I can't remember who it was. I never got a
Speaker 6: chance to play with him. But you know, the last
Speaker 6: staff they got this big old guy and you know,
Speaker 6: I'm not going to tell you who exactly it was,
Speaker 6: but you know, coach behind the scenes said, hey, listen,
Speaker 6: at least he's gonna look good getting off the bus
Speaker 6: for us.
Speaker 5: No, No, I know I know exactly who you're talking about.
Speaker 5: He came from col and he was a monster, but
Speaker 5: he couldn't he was on the offensive line, I think
Speaker 5: he was, and.
Speaker 6: He was a good player, but like when you see him,
Speaker 6: you're like, oh, that dude's like first second round draft.
Speaker 6: They like written all over him.
Speaker 5: See convinced Jay that that doesn't make the All Airport Team. Okle,
Speaker 5: these guys look good and then you get in the
Speaker 5: court and they're not any good, you know pretty much.
Speaker 6: It's not like it's not like Stanford when like back
Speaker 6: when Harbaugh was there, you're walking down into Stanford's you know,
Speaker 6: into their home field, and you're walking by kind of
Speaker 6: they have like they had this random weight room right
Speaker 6: by where you walk out on the field and you
Speaker 6: look in and you're like, oh my god, these guys
Speaker 6: are giant. And sometimes you're like, Okay, these guys really
Speaker 6: can't play though, No, they can all play and they
Speaker 6: can all smack you. So it's like it just really
Speaker 6: depends on you know, you obviously got to gauge whether
Speaker 6: or not the person has the uh you know, the heart,
Speaker 6: you know, the learning capabilities, uh, you know, the focus
Speaker 6: all that other stuff. But yeah, there are guys that
Speaker 6: look good getting off the bus. But they play like James.
Speaker 3: It was ever a guy that you got on the
Speaker 3: field and you said, Okay, I don't want to go
Speaker 3: near that guy. You know, you just go I hope
Speaker 3: that guy doesn't come at me, or something like that.
Speaker 3: Were there ever any guys like that?
Speaker 6: There was a Do you remember Tyron Smith from SC?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 6: He was He got drafted in the first round. He
Speaker 6: played about ten years uh as the starting left tackle
Speaker 6: for the Dallas Cowboys. He's like six or seven first
Speaker 6: time All Pro offensive line from.
Speaker 3: MESSI okay, I don't recall him because I all the
Speaker 3: all those SC guys they look the same to me. Yeah,
Speaker 3: do you remember?
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're all big.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: But this kid in one play literally comes out he
Speaker 6: cuts me like does a role, goes out and blasts
Speaker 6: another linebacker all in the same play, and it's like,
Speaker 6: what are you doing here?
Speaker 12: I mean?
Speaker 6: He should have been in the damn NFL after his freshman.
Speaker 3: Year, right?
Speaker 5: Do you remember during the rich rug time, I think
Speaker 5: you're on the team Steve something him and him and
Speaker 5: rich Rock got into a shouting match. Rich had to
Speaker 5: kick him out and then he brought him back because
Speaker 5: he was such a good player. But he was always
Speaker 5: tucking crap.
Speaker 4: Ah.
Speaker 6: There were a few coaching staff I mean, they'll get
Speaker 6: in your grill, and it's not because they want to.
Speaker 6: It's just that's the way that they coach, you know,
Speaker 6: Like I know coaches that will just love you up.
Speaker 6: I know coaches that will dog cuts you. I know
Speaker 6: coaches that duke a little bit of both. So I've
Speaker 6: seen it, you know, I've I gotten a shouting match
Speaker 6: with rich Rowy a couple of times. So that doesn't
Speaker 6: surprise me.
Speaker 3: Right, you know a guy like that that that sticks
Speaker 3: out to me. And I remember we uh you know,
Speaker 3: going way back, but went on the field, you know
Speaker 3: how we would go on as reporters and watch them
Speaker 3: basically the last quarter was Junior seou and when us
Speaker 3: he played here, and the things that he was doing
Speaker 3: to Arizona's off, to their linemen and to their backs
Speaker 3: and everything. And I'm like that, as you said, that
Speaker 3: guy just didn't belong there anymore. And uh, he's a
Speaker 3: guy that if you ask me, you know who who
Speaker 3: who somebody you saw in person that you go, holy hell,
Speaker 3: what was that? It was him? Because he was just
Speaker 3: such a beast and just so far ahead of everybody else,
Speaker 3: both in his meanness, his size and speed, all of
Speaker 3: that stuff. We remember he he taped his his shoes,
Speaker 3: his ankles, you know, on the outside with duct tape.
Speaker 3: He walked by soid it was it was duct tape
Speaker 3: on his on his shoes and his ankles. I'm like,
Speaker 3: that's that's just not right. It's just just something wrong
Speaker 3: with that guy. Yeah.
Speaker 6: No, some folks they got it all figured out. And
Speaker 6: that's kind of, you know, one of those instances where
Speaker 6: you're like that dud's been touched by God. I'm sorry.
Speaker 6: That's just there's no other way or around it. They're
Speaker 6: a physical freak. They're you know, they have a mean streak.
Speaker 6: They know how to put everything together. They're smart, they're instinctual,
Speaker 6: and you know, there's just a bunch of crap that
Speaker 6: you can't teach. So you get a couple of those guys.
Speaker 6: You're doing okay, Yeah, going to.
Speaker 3: The media stuff, go ahead, Okay, So, Jake, there's been
Speaker 3: some there's been some stuff going on over at the
Speaker 3: Arizona camp. The media has not been kicked out of practice,
Speaker 3: but they've been told they can't report on anything going
Speaker 3: on in practice. Some stuff did the media. Were you
Speaker 3: bothered by anything the media did or were you bothered
Speaker 3: by them being around, uh, you know practice and stuff
Speaker 3: like that. You could say I was I was bothering
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, if yeah, Steve bothered you. We want to
Speaker 3: know there's I'm.
Speaker 6: Not going to name names. There was one guy that
Speaker 6: would always bother me and I would literally I told
Speaker 6: our SI D I don't want to talk to him,
Speaker 6: and I'd go out of my way to even you know,
Speaker 6: to talk to them. But everybody else I really like.
Speaker 6: And it was just because this guy would ask the
Speaker 6: dumbest questions at the most inopportune time to try to
Speaker 6: get a round, you know, a rise out of people.
Speaker 6: And one time I told him that, you know, stfu
Speaker 6: and I just kept walking like I'm not like that,
Speaker 6: but if you keep doing the dumb stuff, I understand it.
Speaker 6: And then what you know, like I heard about who
Speaker 6: it is and what they asked and all this other stuff.
Speaker 6: It's like that an instance where it's like you're doing
Speaker 6: so well as a defense and then you have that
Speaker 6: one that just won't run to the ball and then
Speaker 6: everybody has to run because of it. Like, don't be
Speaker 6: that guy. You have a set of rules abide by it.
Speaker 3: Yea.
Speaker 6: Other than that, I have no problem with any of
Speaker 6: the press beating there.
Speaker 5: Yeah no, I God, Now I have to go back
Speaker 5: to my memory bank and try to figure out who
Speaker 5: was the guy.
Speaker 3: I do recall this one time that I Arizona had
Speaker 3: gotten beat at. This was the Chuck Cecil years, right,
Speaker 3: it was it was Dick's first year. They lost to
Speaker 3: u c l A was a close game. Arizona wasn't
Speaker 3: very good, but they went four four and three that year.
Speaker 3: But Troy Aikman and all that, they're at the Rose Bull.
Speaker 3: They get beat late in the game. Bobby Waters, who
Speaker 3: had come here the quarterback for sm from SMU, broke
Speaker 3: his thumb in the game and he was he was
Speaker 3: going to be out for the season. Ronald Bial ends
Speaker 3: up coming into the game and and he and he
Speaker 3: was gonna be out for the year. And so I
Speaker 3: and he was Chuck Cecil's roommate. Okay, So I walked
Speaker 3: into the locker room and Chuck had this grimace on
Speaker 3: his face like and I was almost scared to go
Speaker 3: talk to him, but I had to write. He was
Speaker 3: the captain, And so I walked up to him and
Speaker 3: just try to make like an off hand remark, I said,
Speaker 3: you look pissed. I thought he was gonna kick my ass.
Speaker 3: I thought he was gonna beat me up because he
Speaker 3: was so mad at what had happened to to, you know,
Speaker 3: to Bobby Waters. And he looked at me like I
Speaker 3: almost I just walked away. I didn't ask him another question.
Speaker 3: I said, I don't want to talk to him because
Speaker 3: I'm not going to get anything out of him. And
Speaker 3: and he you know, but he just said something like
Speaker 3: a quarterback just is out for the season or something
Speaker 3: like that, really bad. And I'm like, okay, I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna you know, they're my work here is done. And
Speaker 3: I I was not bad about that.
Speaker 6: It's like, don't poke the bear at exactly.
Speaker 3: You're trying to just yeah, just trying to be you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: start a conversation. Let the smart funny one.
Speaker 6: That's why a lot of reporters have though, like I
Speaker 6: used to be like a not a fall back guy.
Speaker 6: But it's like, you know that I would always.
Speaker 13: Like you were I think you were that even though
Speaker 13: you know, I would always tell you what I'm thinking.
Speaker 13: And you know, you got to have a couple of
Speaker 13: those guys and you know, Jay at that time, if
Speaker 13: you had a fall back guy, that's the guy you
Speaker 13: go get.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, he was even despite his long curly or
Speaker 5: long flowing looks, you know.
Speaker 3: But then again was all for half a year about.
Speaker 3: Cecil was also the guy that I don't I think
Speaker 3: it was that same season eighty seven eighty seven, uh
Speaker 3: Arizona misses a field goal against Washington and and the
Speaker 3: game ends in the tie, and so so they opened
Speaker 3: the locker room right and all the reporters walking where
Speaker 3: everybody head straight for the kicker, and Cecil grabbed a
Speaker 3: chair and threw it across the room because he was pissed,
Speaker 3: and everybody went after the guy who was obviously, you know,
Speaker 3: very upset. It was Gary Costin who had who had
Speaker 3: missed the field goal. So Cecil was an intense well
Speaker 3: that UCLA game. Also he broke his He he got
Speaker 3: a big cut in his hand because he put his
Speaker 3: hand through a window at his apartment when he got home.
Speaker 3: He was so pissed. So I remember seeing him at
Speaker 3: practice on the following Monday, and his hand was all
Speaker 3: bandaged up, and I knew what had happened, and I
Speaker 3: just wanted to hear him say it, and he looked again.
Speaker 3: I got one of those just get the hell away
Speaker 3: from me kind of looks for me. It was pretty funny.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So, Jake, Jake, we have about two minutes. What
Speaker 5: did you create with this nil stuff?
Speaker 3: What did you create?
Speaker 6: I created away And it wasn't even me. I'm not
Speaker 6: even like one of the main playing tips, you know,
Speaker 6: I got, you know, I sat through deposition and all
Speaker 6: that stuff and whatever. That's that was the extent of
Speaker 6: what I did. I just everybody in the locker room
Speaker 6: felt that players should get paid, you know, Like I said, imagine,
Speaker 6: you know, a Cadeen carry being from Tucstan. You know what,
Speaker 6: he would have been able to take advantage of, right,
Speaker 6: Guys like that that they put butts in seats, they
Speaker 6: drive ticket sales, they're very you know, I mean, you
Speaker 6: put him in a commercial. He's the guy that would
Speaker 6: absolutely do well in a commercial. He would have been
Speaker 6: able to make a ton of extra money, you know.
Speaker 6: I mean that's great. Like I said, we're still you know,
Speaker 6: in the beginning stages. It's kind of like the Wilelall West.
Speaker 6: Right now. I have a feeling that over the next
Speaker 6: five years or so, maybe even quicker than that. Things
Speaker 6: are going to kind of take, you know shape, you know,
Speaker 6: if there's probably gonna end up being you know, contracts,
Speaker 6: and I think the transfer portal, you know, might you
Speaker 6: might have to sign a contract because technically you're going
Speaker 6: to end up being a professional, and even the professionals
Speaker 6: in the NFL signed contracts, you know, so you're gonna
Speaker 6: have stuff like that probably start coming into the fray.
Speaker 6: I'm not you know, I'm not in those conversations, but
Speaker 6: that's just kind of how I see it going. But
Speaker 6: the kids, you know, they deserve to get paid.
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Speaker 3: Thanks man take care of Jake, have a good weekend.
Speaker 3: I wish she was opinionated. I wish let's take a break. Coming,
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Speaker 3: We'll be back.
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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome about two light of our hero Fox Sports
Speaker 3: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Dsjay one with us. We got
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes. Say if you want to keep up the calls,
Speaker 3: we enjoyed them, yep, by two oh four one sixty seven.
Speaker 3: Fun today. Yeah, they didn't think Jim especially. He sent
Speaker 3: me a text and he was sorry and I don't
Speaker 3: think I believe he is. I don't believe he is
Speaker 3: at all. Sure, dig in no, I mean the doctors
Speaker 3: haven't even played yet, and he calls and gives me
Speaker 3: some crap about something. So anyways, all right, Hey, so
Speaker 3: this thing came out a couple of days ago. ESPN
Speaker 3: ranked the one hundred college football players for twenty twenty four,
Speaker 3: and the list a lot of people we've you know,
Speaker 3: you here in Tucson, I've never heard of because they're
Speaker 3: you know, linemen and stuff like that from from various places.
Speaker 3: But Arizona landed four players on the list, the highest
Speaker 3: being Team Act, who is listed at number thirteen and
Speaker 3: he's he's the second receiver on the list. Luther Burden,
Speaker 3: the third from from Missouri at number five, is the
Speaker 3: top receiver A listed on there. But Team Act coming
Speaker 3: in second is basically there's Radium as the second best
Speaker 3: receiver in the country, which is pretty cool. How does
Speaker 3: he look?
Speaker 4: Oh, he'll be ready. He'll be ready for the season opener.
Speaker 3: They tempered him. They's gone.
Speaker 4: He's progressed week by week.
Speaker 3: He You're not supposed to be talking about this.
Speaker 4: No, I could talk about the past one. Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: why I stopped.
Speaker 3: The reason you didn't go today, So that wouldn't I'm
Speaker 3: just being a butt face. I can't help myself.
Speaker 4: He looks good.
Speaker 3: What do you What do you want to say? You
Speaker 3: can't say.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know if I can say.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, you can see.
Speaker 4: I can't remember when when it first happened.
Speaker 3: Ye, the spring. Wasn't the spring? Wait before that, when
Speaker 3: you heard yeah at the beginning of the spring, wasn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, So he looks good. He looks yeah, okay,
Speaker 5: here we got a call saved by the bill.
Speaker 3: Exactly how you're on there and I on the ball.
Speaker 6: Thank god?
Speaker 3: Something what's the words? Hey?
Speaker 15: I wanted to circle back to the three o'clock deal
Speaker 15: with guys that didn't make it, and the one that
Speaker 15: always sticks in my mind is that Obama. Oh, for
Speaker 15: some reason, that guy was College Player of the Year,
Speaker 15: m VP of the Final four and he didn't have
Speaker 15: anything but a cup of coffee.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, well that's another. Then he caused all this
Speaker 3: trouble with.
Speaker 15: The NILO, right exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's been a lot. Well, you don't know, the
Speaker 5: guy is a big baby, a big baby baby Jordan.
Speaker 5: He didn't have that long Yeah.
Speaker 6: That Harrol Minor, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 15: Yeah, And and it just shows you how, like you say, Steve,
Speaker 15: I heard you say it, how good you have to be?
Speaker 15: I mean, Kalid and Salim, I mean if it makes
Speaker 15: you wonder one of those scrut well Selem was with
Speaker 15: a hawk. How do you not want a guy that
Speaker 15: can shoot like that? Maybe he had a bad attitude,
Speaker 15: but man, right, well that's part of the wonder why
Speaker 15: they don't keep him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's part of it. You have to have the
Speaker 3: whole thing.
Speaker 5: You know, Why would you want a bad apple unless
Speaker 5: you're six ' ten and unbelievable.
Speaker 15: Yeah, but you know that whole ninety five team j
Speaker 15: have you ever thought about this? And none of them
Speaker 15: made it, the whole ninety five u s LA championship teams.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bailey, Yeah, yeah, Toby Bailey is another name the Yeah,
Speaker 3: wasn't Darren Collison on that?
Speaker 15: And none of them made it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, and that was a crazy, crazy, crazy,
Speaker 3: crazy good team. Yeah.
Speaker 5: But you know, yeah, Vicky, you know this, and there's
Speaker 5: no there's no knock on that because they're college there's
Speaker 5: college kids and you're here to play college ball and
Speaker 5: become a team. Look at ninety seven Arizona ninety seven.
Speaker 3: Well, and again to Jim Herrick, who was the coach
Speaker 3: of that team, was one of those coaches that he
Speaker 3: was a college coach, right, He wasn't. He wasn't trying
Speaker 3: to build and you know an NBA uh program, you know,
Speaker 3: like like Cali Perry was, you know, going and getting
Speaker 3: guys that, Okay, this is an NBA guy, so he's
Speaker 3: gonna be on my team. He was trying to have
Speaker 3: the best college team he could have, and those are
Speaker 3: the kinds of guys he had on his team. Well,
Speaker 3: let's also remember, can you know this better than us?
Speaker 3: Because being from l A.
Speaker 5: Outside of Reggie Reggie Miller and that was before all this,
Speaker 5: who really did it? Don mcclan didn't have that great
Speaker 5: of a Yeah, well Russell Russell Westbrook Russell, and he
Speaker 5: was He's and love and love.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So those two dudes, you guys, but those
Speaker 3: guys came in under under the other guy.
Speaker 15: Uh yeah, right right, ma, it is weird that I'm
Speaker 15: gonna tell you, guys, the two greatest athletes in my
Speaker 15: life in high school and I'll tell you, I said
Speaker 15: to the guy sitting next to me, they're going to
Speaker 15: make their mama a lot of money. Where Jason Thomas
Speaker 15: Ad Dominga's and uh Khalil Kate. I saw them both
Speaker 15: in high school and I'm like they were just men
Speaker 15: among both different Yeah, and neither of them sniffed the NFL.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, how can that?
Speaker 15: It's just amazing. But yet Steve Kerr and Judd Butschler
Speaker 15: played fifteen years in the NBA.
Speaker 5: TJ McConnell man, sometimes yeah, sometimes you just gotta keep
Speaker 5: your head down.
Speaker 3: And grind, do the right things. Yeah, exactly amazing.
Speaker 15: But uh well, I want to wish you guys a
Speaker 15: great weekend, and uh let's see football is coming around
Speaker 15: the corner, man.
Speaker 3: Right, and go and go Dodgers. We'll see you. Thanks Vig.
Speaker 15: They at five o'clock.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know, all right, man, thanks, thank you?
Speaker 3: All right? Interesting, you know, and she caught me here.
Speaker 3: But there's a there's I mean, the the NC double,
Speaker 3: A good NC double. A teams are littered with those
Speaker 3: guys who you go, okay, that guys can't miss, and
Speaker 3: then they miss, right, and you wonder why so crazy?
Speaker 3: All right, getting back to the top one hundred list.
Speaker 3: We got Arizona's got no fa Fida at fifty one,
Speaker 3: so it goes from thirteen to fifty one or whatever. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: thirteen to fifty one, so you got no Fafeeda at
Speaker 3: fifty one. For the record, Shador Sanders, who I still
Speaker 3: don't think is a better quarterback than than Fefida, is
Speaker 3: at twenty four. Of the top quarterback on the list
Speaker 3: is Carson Beck from Georgia. I think they let me
Speaker 3: go back. I think they had him at seven. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Georgia quarterback at seven. There's a few quarterbacks in front of,
Speaker 3: in front of, in front of Fifeeda, but he's at
Speaker 3: fifty one. Let's say this call. All right, you're on
Speaker 3: the arm and eye on the ball.
Speaker 15: Hey, guys Georgia.
Speaker 12: He just I'm pigging backing on that guy's other call man,
Speaker 12: Jordan Hill. Do you ever think that guy was gonna
Speaker 12: make it in the NBA as.
Speaker 3: Long as he did?
Speaker 5: That's that's a crazy one. Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 5: Him and and and and and and Butdinger and not
Speaker 5: so much.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: I think Budinger was maybe six years Jordan probably had
Speaker 5: a little longer if I'm correct.
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, but butting here was a five star.
Speaker 12: I mean, he was the guy who you go after
Speaker 12: you think he's supposed to do it.
Speaker 3: No, no, that's my point here. For four years, that's
Speaker 3: my point. He didn't.
Speaker 5: He didn't last that long. He didn't last that long. Yeah, Chase,
Speaker 5: you know, he was a couple of years here, comings
Speaker 5: there and then went to Poenix and that was over.
Speaker 3: Sorry, no, that's fine.
Speaker 5: And Lut said Lut at the time said Chase was
Speaker 5: the best recruit he'd ever recruited, he ever recruited.
Speaker 6: Right right, right, that's crazy, man, that's just thinking about.
Speaker 3: A couple of guys. Yeah.
Speaker 6: When that when that guy.
Speaker 12: When Jordan Hill's dad called in, I remember him calling.
Speaker 12: He's like, he used to beat whoever, Like, uh, I
Speaker 12: don't know, he used to play against somebody, let's say,
Speaker 12: like some other NBA player, and he's like, my son
Speaker 12: beats him every time he played. And you're like, nah,
Speaker 12: he's not that good, you know, And then he had
Speaker 12: a ten year career or whatever.
Speaker 3: He I don't know.
Speaker 5: Well, it's hard to find six foot ten eleven guys
Speaker 5: who played like him. And he was, you know, marginal
Speaker 5: he was good, Yes, serviceable in the NBA.
Speaker 3: You know you play that long in the NBA, you're good. Yeah,
Speaker 3: all right, George, thanks all much, man, appreciate it. Have
Speaker 3: a good weekend. I'm good, all right. Going back to
Speaker 3: the countown there, so she or Santa's twenty four, uh
Speaker 3: fafit at fifty one, Cam Rising who everybody's you know,
Speaker 3: putting their chips on him. He's at fifty three, so
Speaker 3: uh interally to what happens there. But then you got
Speaker 3: to Jonas Savanea at eighty five, and then Tacario Davis
Speaker 3: at ninety four. So there'sn't put four guys in the
Speaker 3: top one hundred, which is I think you said you
Speaker 3: thought that that was more than anybody.
Speaker 4: I think they're up there with as far as how
Speaker 4: many teams got that making players, I.
Speaker 3: Saw Michigan had like two in the top five or
Speaker 3: something like that, even though they they lost a lot
Speaker 3: of numbers. The number one guy is a defensive end
Speaker 3: from Tennessee, A junior. His name is James Pierce. Junior
Speaker 3: had nine and a half sacks last year, and so
Speaker 3: he wasn't even in the top one hundred last year.
Speaker 3: Then you go to Mason Graham, a defensive tackle from Michigan,
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter the Colorado wide receiver, cornerback, Will Johnson, and
Speaker 3: Michigan cornerback. And then the number five is Luther Burdon
Speaker 3: wide receiver out of Tennessee, who's the top wide receiver.
Speaker 3: And then team mat comes after him Missouri, right from Missouri.
Speaker 5: So six guys and you never four guys, four guys
Speaker 5: you never would have well, four guys. You never would
Speaker 5: have thought this three years ago.
Speaker 3: I mean, and you figured, okay, so he got four
Speaker 3: guys at the top one herd. That means that's four
Speaker 3: guys that you would expect would get drafted. Uh, you know,
Speaker 3: uh whenever, whenever their time comes, you know, but you
Speaker 3: got team as a junior. Fafite is a junior to
Speaker 3: Kio Davis says, he is.
Speaker 4: I think technically is a sophomore.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, you're right, he's a sophomore. He's aphomore.
Speaker 3: So if we got five minutes and you might have
Speaker 3: to pull a one here and not answer, is he
Speaker 3: a pro? I don't know. I don't think we know,
Speaker 3: but I think it can be. Look if Kyler Murray
Speaker 3: is a pro, got a shot at being a pro, right,
Speaker 3: because I'm talking about side, just strictly the side. But
Speaker 3: two different styles, but two different styles.
Speaker 2: But who do you like?
Speaker 3: Who you like better? Is a thrower?
Speaker 5: No, No, let me tell you something I've been. I've
Speaker 5: been a critical of Murray for forever. Yeah, who would
Speaker 5: I want? I would want forfa And I just saw
Speaker 5: him for a couple of coffee your year because he
Speaker 5: is a he is exactly what you need a court. Right,
Speaker 5: He's a winner, and not that Ror isn't. But but
Speaker 5: just to run your offense right, you don't have to
Speaker 5: scrabble a thousand yards are getting too right?
Speaker 3: Just right, you're look and he's proven that his size Okay,
Speaker 3: being as short as he is, you can do it.
Speaker 3: You can do it because he did it last year, right,
Speaker 3: and so you like to think, I mean what what
Speaker 3: struck me about him all last year was how accurate
Speaker 3: of a thrower he is? Yeah? Right? His throws are
Speaker 3: on the money, if they if a pass gets broken up,
Speaker 3: if passes doesn't get caught, it's usually because it's been
Speaker 3: broken up. Now is he you know it was? He
Speaker 3: very good on the long on the long ball, No,
Speaker 3: he missed a lot of not a lot, but he
Speaker 3: missed several throws where guys are you know, open deep,
Speaker 3: which you think that's the thing that you can fix
Speaker 3: and get better at. Right, And I expect that he'll
Speaker 3: he'll get better at this year. He's got the arm
Speaker 3: that he needs. Uh and and he moves a wild enough.
Speaker 3: So you know, I like him.
Speaker 6: I I.
Speaker 3: I think he I think he could be. The question
Speaker 3: is Steve and so many people just discount him, you know,
Speaker 3: so many scouts will say we're not taking him because
Speaker 3: he's not tall.
Speaker 5: And of course, of course there's there's that size. You
Speaker 5: know that just automatically you're automatically eliminated. So would you
Speaker 5: say what struck you about him? Was the accuracy? Accuracy
Speaker 5: struck me about him? How hard the other guy's played
Speaker 5: for you keep saying that because it's true.
Speaker 3: It's true.
Speaker 5: I mean we talked about that. We've talked about that.
Speaker 5: You see, it's very visible. How is it on the sidelines?
Speaker 5: Well him mean long enough, Well he says all the
Speaker 5: right things. I had a press commis earlier this week.
Speaker 5: Says all the right things, does all the right things.
Speaker 5: How he's got a little Steve current where there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's something that there's something that he's got here
Speaker 3: and something that he's developed at Arizona, that there's this
Speaker 3: connection between him and he loves being here, right, he
Speaker 3: loves being here. Now watch it. I said that he'll
Speaker 3: he'll hear the transferportal after this. He's gonna go be
Speaker 3: the quarterback at Texas or something. But you know, uh,
Speaker 3: you know he could mean he could have gone anywhere
Speaker 3: you wanted to go.
Speaker 5: Well, in Tafeta, they trust, right, he's the quarterback. He's
Speaker 5: the perfect spot of the position for them to latch
Speaker 5: on and follow him. Yeah, and and they've done.
Speaker 3: That, yeah, you know, and so uh yeah, I does
Speaker 3: he have the the chops, you know, the the the
Speaker 3: explained shops, the mental the the what do they call
Speaker 3: the intangibles right to be an NFL quarterback? Right, just uh,
Speaker 3: take take away, take away the physical piece of it,
Speaker 3: just all the other things that you need to be
Speaker 3: an NFL quarterbacks. You know, the composure, the you know,
Speaker 3: the smarts, you know, he understands what he's doing, the
Speaker 3: you know, the ability to read a defense. All those things.
Speaker 3: He's got all of that. All of that's NFL quality
Speaker 3: in him. The question is going to be will his
Speaker 3: eyes keep him from being an NFL quarter. Well, and
Speaker 3: that's said, what did Jake said? The seller with the sale?
Speaker 3: Was it sale?
Speaker 5: He touched with the god? Touching with the football sticker?
Speaker 5: I can't remember. That's the one thing that that God
Speaker 5: may not have done with.
Speaker 3: Right. He didn't make him sixty three right, right, you know,
Speaker 3: or make him sixty one right. You know, he is
Speaker 3: what he is because I mean, look, yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: you know, and he's not blessed with you know, he's
Speaker 3: not He's not Lamar Jackson, he's not even Kyler Murray
Speaker 3: when it comes to you know, the speed. But what
Speaker 3: he does have is a pocket presence where he knows
Speaker 3: that somebody is coming. I mean that, uh yeah, when
Speaker 3: that it sticks in my mind the two point conversion
Speaker 3: against Oklahoma where he ducked a guy who you know,
Speaker 3: guy just came over the top of him and then
Speaker 3: he ducked the guy, got out and hit the two
Speaker 3: point conversion the past. Yeah, not everybody's got that, you know, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, they don't see somebody or feel somebody coming.
Speaker 3: You don't teach that. Well, you can teach what you don't.
Speaker 3: That's hard to teach. That's an instinct that that guys, guys,
Speaker 3: and he has all that. Okay, hey, good show today.
Speaker 3: All right, it was fun. Good week. Yeah, good week.
Speaker 3: Taking into high school football next week, so maybe have
Speaker 3: some more to that. And we're getting we're one day
Speaker 3: closer to college football steak. Yeah, okay, all right, thanks
Speaker 3: for being everybody. We'll see you next week.