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<v Speaker 1>Mac.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there something about me that makes people want to

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<v Speaker 2>lower their expectations of me?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you mean to hold on? Take a step back. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So you're saying that people have high expectations of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Low expectations of me, so that then when I do anything,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just met with amazement.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So you are asking if people are inclined to

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<v Speaker 1>have a low expectation about for you of you, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because of a character trait of yours, right, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I guess if they don't know you, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what they would be going off of. But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you're the type of you're like a perfectionist, you work hard,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know why people would.

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<v Speaker 2>Have loved I love those compliments. I'll tell you. The

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<v Speaker 2>person that's way too easily impressed about me is my father.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there is a delineation, right, a sort of age

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<v Speaker 1>group where sometimes you do, like just zooming into a photo,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like WHOA Like that's so, I think your father's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of in that age group. Anything anything that's cordless,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's probably very impressed by it. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>No, so, like I appreciate when he's uh, when he's

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<v Speaker 2>overly excited about, like, hey, you're a really good dad.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that makes me feel nice because you don't

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<v Speaker 2>get those compliments often. It's nice to hear that every

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<v Speaker 2>once in a while, but there are times where, like RAFFI,

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<v Speaker 2>my son will tell him that I read to him

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<v Speaker 2>every night, and my dad's like, you read to him

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<v Speaker 2>every night? Never? What a thunk it?

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<v Speaker 1>So this is you, this was this was a trap

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<v Speaker 1>here you phrased this. I was thinking in general public.

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<v Speaker 1>So the question is what? Actually the answer is very easy.

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<v Speaker 2>You I trapped you.

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<v Speaker 1>You were wondering why your dad had such low expectations.

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<v Speaker 2>It's why my dad has such low expectations of me when.

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<v Speaker 1>One week ago we just talked about how you got

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<v Speaker 1>a tattoo to apologize to your father for your behavior

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<v Speaker 1>and your adolescence.

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<v Speaker 2>One good, three Yeah, jobs three King of Queen.

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<v Speaker 1>MARYL.

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<v Speaker 2>Street entertained and I'm mad And we are the macing

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<v Speaker 2>Good program. We bring you lawyering friendship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet today you bring you the three best friends that

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<v Speaker 1>anyone could have. We are talking Daredevil Born Again seven

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<v Speaker 1>years and the Making Year Good. I believe season three

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<v Speaker 1>Daredevil is twenty eighteen. Does that sound right?

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<v Speaker 2>But I'll ask you this though, is that if we

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<v Speaker 2>were avocados at law, which one of us would be Murdoch,

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<v Speaker 2>which one would be Foggy.

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<v Speaker 1>My appearance, I'm clearly a Foggy, although when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to lowering, I think I would be the more.

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<v Speaker 2>Spoilers to say what happens in the first episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's I predicted it, did I not fucking max Domas.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the first thing I've gotten round.

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<v Speaker 2>Quite You're dead, bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Episode one Foggy gets which sets off the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing for the season. I should say. Daredevil Born Again

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<v Speaker 1>is a Disney Plus original program is rated tvm A.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an action crime drama superhero show. Subgenres here, goo

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<v Speaker 1>tell me which one is your favorite gangst the legal drama,

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<v Speaker 1>legal thriller, martial arts, psychological drama, psychological thriller.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what I don't like, superhero because even

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<v Speaker 2>with that, there is a subgenre that goes into it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not really a superhero show. It's more of the

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<v Speaker 2>street crime, street level vigilante.

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<v Speaker 1>So just regular hero show kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no real superpowers that go into this.

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<v Speaker 1>To see that finale that's shark jumping moment from.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a couple of things. But wouldn't you recommend this

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<v Speaker 2>to someone that does not like superhero stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you could recommend there's someone to someone that

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<v Speaker 1>just likes regular TV. Yes, so that's a good point.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm trying to say, Like, if someone has

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<v Speaker 2>superhero fatigue, which I understand, this is still something that's

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<v Speaker 2>not like that that you can recommend. I would say

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<v Speaker 2>that it's not like I would recommend the penguin to

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<v Speaker 2>a non superhero person over this, but this is this

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<v Speaker 2>is like.

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<v Speaker 1>A regular Guys penguin, a poor guy's penguin. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's nearly the level of entertainment in quality that

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<v Speaker 1>that show achieved.

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<v Speaker 2>But one of those on HBO, though one's on.

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<v Speaker 1>HBO name, the streaming money is all the same these days.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't give me that bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, because can you think of anything Disney plus wise

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<v Speaker 2>that has gotten anything close to an HBO show? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care quality control.

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<v Speaker 1>And also like cal Ferrell's great, but like John Burnhal,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>HBO is not even television, it's HBO.

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<v Speaker 1>Goude. This is nine episode a nine episode season, totally

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred and forty six minutes, about forty nine and

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<v Speaker 1>a half minutes per episode and go. We'd be remiss

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<v Speaker 1>if we didn't mention the fact that there were three

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix Daredevil seasons that took place twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen that were

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<v Speaker 1>that shaped molded this series. It's like loosely connected stuff

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<v Speaker 1>in that kind of mattered, But they're also taking some liberties.

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<v Speaker 1>And we also have seen Daredevil in a couple other

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<v Speaker 1>MCU things now Spider Man no Way Home or Far

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<v Speaker 1>from Home, and we saw him in she Hulk. We've

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<v Speaker 1>also now seen Wilson Fisk and a few MCU things.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't really know what was supposed to matter

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<v Speaker 1>prior to this seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Ready for this, Yeah, both everything and nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>And they actually did a decent job of sort of

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<v Speaker 1>theatering that line. And speaking of those aforementioned three Daredevil seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>Goo Season one of Daredevil ninety nine percent from the critics,

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<v Speaker 1>ninety three per.

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<v Speaker 2>Love that the audience love it was one of the.

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<v Speaker 1>First superhero shows, Marvel shows, shows of this new era

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<v Speaker 1>of streaming that really hit hard. You know that just

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<v Speaker 1>Jones season one, but that was before just Jones, so

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<v Speaker 1>it really set the standard for what was to come

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<v Speaker 1>over this past decade. Season two a little bit lower

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<v Speaker 1>than most, even though it's my favorite season of Daredevil.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty one percent from the critics, eighty nine percent from

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<v Speaker 1>the audience. And season three, where we last left off

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<v Speaker 1>in this Daredevil saga, ninety seven percent from the critics,

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<v Speaker 1>eighty six percent from the audience. So the audience has

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<v Speaker 1>been creeping down a little bit and the critics are

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place. So you could call this season

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<v Speaker 1>four or it's its own thing. It kind of is.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty seven percent from the critics for Daredevil Born Again,

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<v Speaker 1>eighty one percent from the audience. So, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>audience has crept down a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think the audience and I've it's a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a blind look at it, where certain people just

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<v Speaker 2>don't care for anything that Disney touches and they immediately

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<v Speaker 2>jump on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I will say though, I do feel like this

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<v Speaker 1>fits in pretty well with the three Netflix see.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it captured that the show pretty well tonally.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it did a good job of that. And speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of that, the metacritics scores season one to three seventy five,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty eight, seventy one. This is a sixty nine, nice

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<v Speaker 1>to sort of in that same tier. It seems like

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<v Speaker 1>season one's head and shoulders above if you go by

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<v Speaker 1>the rating systems. My favorite season is season two. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you get Punisher. I just think it's electra. I just

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a little bit above the other two.

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<v Speaker 2>And now I think season two is a little overstuffed.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that season one was the cleanest, Like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>check out these thirteen episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you're probably right about that. But that's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing about the Netflix series two twelve thirteen episode seasons

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<v Speaker 1>that just went on for a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I really like season three too, yea.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't care for season three. Too much church shop,

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<v Speaker 1>too much mom stuff, just went along.

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<v Speaker 2>It went on for oh you love mom stuff, and

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<v Speaker 2>usually when it's in its church.

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<v Speaker 1>The nice thing is over the years, they've decided and

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<v Speaker 1>the audience has really decided that we prefer these shows

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<v Speaker 1>in that six, seven, eight, nine episode range over twelve thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think this did a good job probably being

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<v Speaker 1>the right length. You could even maybe cut a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Bit of Bear's porridge. What I would have loved and

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<v Speaker 2>I think moving forward, this is what I do want

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<v Speaker 2>is ten episodes, but you take two or three episodes

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<v Speaker 2>like you did in the bank robbery episode, and just

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<v Speaker 2>have it be its own, one off half hour and

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<v Speaker 2>have some fun with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I like a little more conciseness, and especially at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the season, I felt like some of

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<v Speaker 1>the things we did during the season were just more

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<v Speaker 1>a distraction. The muse stuff, for example, ended up just

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<v Speaker 1>being like a footnote, which was a little disappointing.

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<v Speaker 2>Slightly a bit of a waste, but it was all

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<v Speaker 2>a part of Fisk's plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, that's that's it just felt like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we were misdirected and went down these certain paths when

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately all we really cared about was what the two

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<v Speaker 1>characters that we've been dealing with the whole time. But

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's sort of what Fist does qude This

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<v Speaker 1>show is created by Matt Corman and Chris Ord. They

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<v Speaker 1>are writing working duo. They did a show called COVID Affairs.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a bunch of episodes you might know them from,

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<v Speaker 1>and the show runner is Dario Scart Scarred upon a Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the executive producer and maybe a showrunner as

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<v Speaker 1>well on the Punisher series both seasons. Did they get

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<v Speaker 1>a season three Punisher?

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<v Speaker 2>I think just two seasons, and he has an upcoming

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<v Speaker 2>uh not made for TV special but a Disney Plus

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<v Speaker 2>exclusive like eighty minutes. Let's got up on? I think

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<v Speaker 2>fift What is it?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they said like fifty minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just fifty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, so, yeah, at least give me an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Got upon a on top of Punisher has done the

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<v Speaker 1>Krazinski Jack Ryan stuff on Amazon, which I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people have liked. Dude. Synopsis of Daredevil Born Again,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Murdoch finds himself on a collision course with Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>Fisk when their past identities begin to emerge. So, like

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<v Speaker 1>we have talked about a few minutes ago, this series

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<v Speaker 1>starts at a point where Matt Murdoch knows who Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>Fisk is and you know what he's doing. Wilson Fisk

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<v Speaker 1>knows that Daredevil is Matt Murdoch. It like Cassera on

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<v Speaker 1>the Bag. But outside of that, not much that had

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<v Speaker 1>happened in the prior three seasons really plays here, except

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<v Speaker 1>for some bullseyes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Murdoch knows that Fisk is up to something, and

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<v Speaker 2>you need to know their backstory a bit so that

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<v Speaker 2>you aren't thinking that Murdoch is just obsessed with Fisk,

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<v Speaker 2>like his girlfriend on the show where she doesn't know

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<v Speaker 2>their past history, just that Matt was a lawyer that

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<v Speaker 2>had put him in jail. So she's like, why is

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<v Speaker 2>he so obsessed with Fisk?

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<v Speaker 1>Why you're so obsessed with me? By the way, that

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<v Speaker 1>that that was Mariah Carey's just to Eminem and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't I didn't care for that team Eminem on that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a lamb, Isn't that what she calls her people?

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<v Speaker 1>Lambs, lamb chop.

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<v Speaker 2>Lamb chops, this show lamb CHOP's play along.

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<v Speaker 1>Great show, great television program.

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<v Speaker 2>The song that never ends that.

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<v Speaker 1>Says as this show stars Goot Charlie Cox is Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>she gets credited for it. Alreadie Fruition as Buck Cashman.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of Wilson's right hand men in city Hall.

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<v Speaker 2>If you did also, I'll give him credit for this.

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<v Speaker 2>One episode was the election period, and he's right in office.

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<v Speaker 2>That got it all out of the way.

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<v Speaker 1>level wise. Nicky m James as Kirsten McDuffie. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Zabrina Grivara as Sheila Rivera. She is like the one

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<v Speaker 1>sure she has a role in the comics that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Michael Gaston as Chief Gallo. He also is

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<v Speaker 1>Poindexter slash Bullseye. I feel like they didn't really know

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<v Speaker 1>going forward, but it was a little confusing.

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<v Speaker 2>The new show runners redid the first episode and the

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<v Speaker 2>last two episodes, and then they had to play with

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<v Speaker 1>And to Goo's point, this show was originally imagined and

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to come out two or three years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what we got. They've already confirmed of season two,

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<v Speaker 1>which is coming out next March, so one year after

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<v Speaker 1>this show. John Burnhal as Frank Castle slash Punisher. Every

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<v Speaker 1>time he pops up, he's the best character on the screen.

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<v Speaker 2>Plemonade.

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<v Speaker 1>And then a couple of characters, well, one I hope

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<v Speaker 1>was hector Ia White Tiger, who plays a part in

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<v Speaker 1>the first few episodes, and then his niece Sola dad

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and she's obviously gonna be in season two and

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<v Speaker 2>moving forward with what they try and get done with

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a number of more characters that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>play a factor in here, and to that point, it

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<v Speaker 1>on developing a lot of characters to play in a second,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a third, fourth, fifth season. So I gotta give

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<v Speaker 1>him credit for that. However, if you were tuning in

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<v Speaker 1>to this season of television for like some smashing, kick

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<v Speaker 1>ass Daredevil stuff, a good portion of the season lacked that.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't Daredevil for a couple episodes. And when I

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<v Speaker 2>say a couple episodes, I would say four to five episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and again we already talked about it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the very first episode Foggy, Foggy gets got and

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<v Speaker 1>so he hangs up the mantle because he basically is

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<v Speaker 1>convinced that Foggy got killed because he's Daredevil.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he also crossed his own line.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, right, Yeah, he threw Pointdexter off the building, which

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<v Speaker 1>should have killed him. I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>I also survived that the imagery of him throwing him

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<v Speaker 2>off the building so nonchalantly, I laughed so fucking hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there are a couple of goofy things in this series.

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<v Speaker 1>I do like that they did a little more of

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<v Speaker 1>the Daredevil web slinging with his with his uh sticks,

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<v Speaker 1>his nuton chucks. I like that shit. I just this

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<v Speaker 1>is supposed to be so street level, right, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>no real superhuman stuff. Although Daredevil has an ability, Point

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<v Speaker 1>Dexter surviving that fall in the first episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Blew my mind after he had just broken his back

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<v Speaker 2>a year or two earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous. And then there's something that happens in the finale

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<v Speaker 1>Goo that's even more ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a couple of things in the finale that really

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<v Speaker 2>you have to stretch how someone can serve things yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Or kill someone in a certain way.

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<v Speaker 2>Or they're able to just walk around.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or take a bullet in a certain area of

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<v Speaker 1>the body, and you're good, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you okay, good. So you might have more experience

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<v Speaker 2>than me with this, because I have zero experience. I

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<v Speaker 2>have very of So when a bulletproof vest is shot,

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<v Speaker 2>the material of the vest is now compromised and it

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<v Speaker 1>That's not necessarily true, it'll it won't work to its

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<v Speaker 1>full guarantee, almost like bulletproof glass, like once it takes

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<v Speaker 1>the initial shot was, that might make it through. There's

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<v Speaker 1>also certain animal that is going to just get through

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<v Speaker 1>a bulletproof vest, it still fucking hurts. You still feel

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<v Speaker 1>the impact, there's just no penetration. So there's all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff, and there's all sorts of different you know,

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<v Speaker 1>bulletproof vests, So that stuff, I'm kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>A If you're shot like six or seven times in

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna hurt a lot. But if you're if it's right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably it's probably not gonna get compromised. Okay, But

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<v Speaker 1>if it's a rifle, a larger gun, maybe there's I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know enough to speak fully on that, but you

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<v Speaker 1>have a certain point there, you have you definitely have

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<v Speaker 1>a point to be made, Vanessa.

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<v Speaker 2>I can listen to Vincentinafrio breathe heavy and say, Vanessa

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<v Speaker 2>for hours, do.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta run through the the old gauntlet here?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? I would. Fun factor. I think this show, while

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<v Speaker 2>you think might have taken its time on certain things,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that it's still had the fun action pieces

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<v Speaker 2>that we really enjoyed about the original show. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think anything touched what we got from season one in

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<v Speaker 2>the hallway or season two in the stair uh stairwell staircase.

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<v Speaker 2>But there were three or four fight scenes on this show,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it be the first episode where bulls Eyev Daredevil,

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<v Speaker 2>or it's just Matt fighting cops, or the stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>they give us at the end. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>say what goes on, but there's still a bunch of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I also, while I do think he might be disbarred,

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoy Matt in the fucking courtroom too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I there's definitely fun to be had. It's not consistent,

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<v Speaker 1>but when it pops up, it's great. Now, this might

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<v Speaker 1>be speaking more to the satisfactory, so maybe we could

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<v Speaker 1>roll into that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I really enjoyed that at points this was a

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<v Speaker 1>bit procedural law stuff like it really. I just I

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<v Speaker 1>think this show rounded out Matt Murdoch better than the

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix shows did. The Daredevil stuff might have been better

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<v Speaker 1>in the Netflix stuff. I enjoyed a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>of lawyer Matt Murdoch getting tied up in certain things

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<v Speaker 1>that all also complicates the Daredevil stuff. Like in the

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix shows, we didn't see a lot of in court stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw them in the law office.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the season two was a lot of in stuff

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<v Speaker 2>with Frank Castle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my favorite season of the show. Goose or what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about here, here's what I was a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I like when things in the world are affecting both

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer Matt and Daredevil. I like that intersection. I like

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<v Speaker 1>that crossover. This season has a bunch of that. Season

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<v Speaker 1>two had a bunch of that. These might be my

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<v Speaker 1>two favorite seasons of the show. I just felt like

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<v Speaker 1>as a show, from episode to episode, this worked really well.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the Highs, well, you know what, there's a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of great moments in this show. The highs might not

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<v Speaker 1>be as consistently high as the other three seasons, but

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like the pulse of the show, the beat,

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<v Speaker 1>was maybe the best of the four seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that your satisfactor, Yeah, it's satisfying. I was super satisfied.

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<v Speaker 2>I was. I mean, you're bringing the show back with

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of actors that we liked a decade ago.

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<v Speaker 2>They all pretty much look the exact same, the characters

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<v Speaker 2>still feel the exact same. I enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's satisfying to have a consistent beat

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<v Speaker 1>and not way a ton of time, which the Netflix

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<v Speaker 1>shows did because you had twelve thirteen episode seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, the bank heist episode I had so much fun with.

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<v Speaker 2>Borometer a little ticky in the fact that not only

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<v Speaker 2>is it repetitive at points for itself in this season,

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<v Speaker 2>but they do borrow a lot from the original three

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<v Speaker 2>seasons of the show, especially when dealing with you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how Matt feels about killing or the whole vigilanteism and

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<v Speaker 2>hiding behind a mask, Like they've kind of touched on

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff in the past yet so.

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<v Speaker 1>To that point in the moment while watching the season,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't like bored, But by the end of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't care as much as as to what was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen because we are in the fourth season and

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<v Speaker 1>we now sort of know that none of this really

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<v Speaker 1>has big ramifications on other stuff. So I enjoyed it

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<v Speaker 1>as a.

423
00:21:55.400 --> 00:21:58.039
<v Speaker 2>Television show about other stuff, though, but big.

424
00:21:57.839 --> 00:22:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Picture stuff, like I know it's not gonna matter tons,

425
00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:03.079
<v Speaker 1>So I didn't really care a ton what happened in

426
00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:04.519
<v Speaker 1>the finale, If that makes sense.

427
00:22:05.240 --> 00:22:08.960
<v Speaker 2>We can talk about that during the finale Halloween. Will

428
00:22:09.119 --> 00:22:13.640
<v Speaker 2>this show wane over time? No, I'm feeling pretty good.

429
00:22:13.680 --> 00:22:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah it will.

430
00:22:15.480 --> 00:22:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh you think it will?

431
00:22:17.079 --> 00:22:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I mean we're not gonna rewin.

432
00:22:18.440 --> 00:22:20.079
<v Speaker 2>What do you think is pointing you in that direction?

433
00:22:20.359 --> 00:22:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I just don't think there's a lot of rewatchability here,

434
00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:24.480
<v Speaker 1>and they don't go out of their way to like

435
00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:27.799
<v Speaker 1>give us a huge cameo or anything like that, which

436
00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:29.640
<v Speaker 1>again makes it a good television show. But you're not

437
00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:32.119
<v Speaker 1>going to pop back and say, oh, I want to

438
00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:33.079
<v Speaker 1>watch this for this reason.

439
00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:37.039
<v Speaker 2>Pish pish to you our quater world. Is this better

440
00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:38.359
<v Speaker 2>than water Worlds? Yes?

441
00:22:39.079 --> 00:22:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is definitely.

442
00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Pants ten City Excite, Mike Mania, What got you going

443
00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:49.759
<v Speaker 2>anything with Frank Castle. And then there are two or

444
00:22:49.759 --> 00:22:53.160
<v Speaker 2>three fight scenes in this, like I said, doesn't top

445
00:22:53.400 --> 00:22:57.440
<v Speaker 2>the heights of the original Daredevil show on Netflix, but

446
00:22:57.559 --> 00:22:59.880
<v Speaker 2>some of the fight scenes in this are still pretty dope.

447
00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:02.640
<v Speaker 1>We get like a ten minute scene in the finale

448
00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:07.640
<v Speaker 1>involving Punisher, involving Daredevil. It's fucking phenomenal, really great, and

449
00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:10.920
<v Speaker 1>like you wanted. I know you can't do that every episode,

450
00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:12.759
<v Speaker 1>but every time you get that, you're like, this is

451
00:23:12.759 --> 00:23:13.240
<v Speaker 1>what I want.

452
00:23:13.359 --> 00:23:15.759
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about something from that episode. We get the spoilers.

453
00:23:16.200 --> 00:23:17.599
<v Speaker 2>There was one line that he said. I was like,

454
00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:22.599
<v Speaker 2>that's really fucking funny. Plemonade. When life gives you plembin's

455
00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:26.680
<v Speaker 2>you make plemonade. I enjoyed. Of course Castle also in

456
00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:29.079
<v Speaker 2>the little that we got from Karen, I thought that

457
00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Karen was pretty good in this too.

458
00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I like a dialed back Karen. I agree, because if

459
00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:34.599
<v Speaker 1>you go back and listen to our reviews of the

460
00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:37.279
<v Speaker 1>other stuff, I'm not a Karen guy at all. They

461
00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:39.400
<v Speaker 1>give her too much and I don't think she's great actress.

462
00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:41.559
<v Speaker 1>She does a good job in her few moments here.

463
00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:45.799
<v Speaker 1>Of course, John Bernhal as Frank Castle's fucking awesome. I

464
00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:49.359
<v Speaker 1>also really loved Kamar Dallas Rais's Hector Ayala. He was

465
00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:53.559
<v Speaker 1>fucking great, great, great, and I'm bummed, you know, they

466
00:23:53.640 --> 00:23:55.119
<v Speaker 1>had to do him the way they had to do him,

467
00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:57.079
<v Speaker 1>But I wish we got a little bit more of him,

468
00:23:57.079 --> 00:23:58.839
<v Speaker 1>because that character's cool and he was great.

469
00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:01.759
<v Speaker 2>Also, judging by car Aron's heartbeat, I wouldn't be surprised

470
00:24:01.799 --> 00:24:05.240
<v Speaker 2>if she wants to get a little something from two gentlemen,

471
00:24:05.319 --> 00:24:06.240
<v Speaker 2>if you know what I mean.

472
00:24:06.599 --> 00:24:08.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, a little life. It's our situation.

473
00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:11.119
<v Speaker 2>Head off to France if you know what I'm talking about,

474
00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:13.599
<v Speaker 2>Max Credit Union.

475
00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:17.920
<v Speaker 1>It's almost too easy to give it to Charlie Cox.

476
00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give it to the show creators, the show

477
00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:26.160
<v Speaker 1>runner here Scartapane, Corman and Ords for recapturing the yesen

478
00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:30.160
<v Speaker 1>of the original show and really, even though it's not

479
00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:33.160
<v Speaker 1>one hundred pc connected, making it feel like it fits

480
00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:36.279
<v Speaker 1>in with the other seasons of television that everyone loved.

481
00:24:36.279 --> 00:24:39.359
<v Speaker 1>So I truly think that was quite the accomplishment.

482
00:24:39.440 --> 00:24:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Also, having no idea what was in the original show

483
00:24:43.559 --> 00:24:45.839
<v Speaker 2>and what they did, granted we saw a bunch of

484
00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:47.400
<v Speaker 2>the shots that they use and cut it down to

485
00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:50.200
<v Speaker 2>the nine episodes. But for them to watch it and

486
00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:52.519
<v Speaker 2>be like, this is shit, we need to fix this.

487
00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Credit to them, Yeah, credit to them.

488
00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:59.319
<v Speaker 1>Seriously, they don't the thing. People and studios and people

489
00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:01.759
<v Speaker 1>with power do that enough, admit they're wrong and fucking

490
00:25:01.799 --> 00:25:02.240
<v Speaker 1>redo it.

491
00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:03.920
<v Speaker 2>For those of you target to the Mac and Goo party,

492
00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:07.119
<v Speaker 2>we rate everything on a forty hot dog rating system. Mac,

493
00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:10.880
<v Speaker 2>we are once again dealing with a crisis of identity,

494
00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:14.599
<v Speaker 2>not only with Matt but with Fisk as well. Both

495
00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:17.480
<v Speaker 2>of them do realize by the end we know who

496
00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:21.440
<v Speaker 2>we are. The constant ying and yang of Matt and

497
00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:24.839
<v Speaker 2>Fisk in this show, and even how they would go

498
00:25:24.880 --> 00:25:27.160
<v Speaker 2>from one scene to another, when it goes from a

499
00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:29.599
<v Speaker 2>Matt scene to a fifth scene, it would almost be

500
00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:32.039
<v Speaker 2>like they would flip the screen over so that one

501
00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:35.480
<v Speaker 2>was looking down, one is looking up. One's more of

502
00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:37.680
<v Speaker 2>a heavenly character at the time, one is more of

503
00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:40.079
<v Speaker 2>a hellish character at the time. I really like how

504
00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:44.960
<v Speaker 2>they played with that the show, how it looked almost

505
00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:49.240
<v Speaker 2>like it was drained of color, like say, Muse drained

506
00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:52.000
<v Speaker 2>all the blood from the show, and it just seemed

507
00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:55.039
<v Speaker 2>kind of dull. But I liked that look and how

508
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:58.279
<v Speaker 2>it showed that it wasn't just the original Netflix show

509
00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:02.119
<v Speaker 2>that was a little oversatched in its color. So it

510
00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:04.359
<v Speaker 2>felt like the same show, but it didn't look like

511
00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:05.759
<v Speaker 2>the same show. Do you know what I'm saying?

512
00:26:05.880 --> 00:26:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? No, they definitely made a conscious choice something with

513
00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:13.240
<v Speaker 1>lenses or editing where they like purposefully made it feel

514
00:26:13.480 --> 00:26:19.160
<v Speaker 1>darker in bleeding of color. To use your muse analogy.

515
00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:22.359
<v Speaker 2>They let Matt take his time to be born again.

516
00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:24.480
<v Speaker 2>We didn't just like he didn't just hang it up

517
00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:26.640
<v Speaker 2>and then an episode later, you know what, I'm gonna

518
00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:27.319
<v Speaker 2>put it back.

519
00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:29.680
<v Speaker 1>On, and truly, you know, speaking to what we've already

520
00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:33.200
<v Speaker 1>mentioned to remain spoiled free here for a second, it's

521
00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:35.440
<v Speaker 1>like a new version of Daredevil we get by the

522
00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:38.440
<v Speaker 1>end of this season. You know, it's a rejuvenated or

523
00:26:38.440 --> 00:26:41.799
<v Speaker 1>re energize or changed version of the character we've seen

524
00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:42.720
<v Speaker 1>over the years.

525
00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:46.039
<v Speaker 2>It kept the feel of the original show along with

526
00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:49.440
<v Speaker 2>its heart and how Matt feels about his friends. I

527
00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:52.759
<v Speaker 2>really enjoyed that, but it also borrowed some of the

528
00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:55.640
<v Speaker 2>themes of do I kill? Do I want to kill?

529
00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:59.359
<v Speaker 2>The whole vigilante thing of hiding behind a mask? Is

530
00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:02.039
<v Speaker 2>that the true or are you hiding the true you

531
00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:07.279
<v Speaker 2>and Fisk breathing lots of Fisk breathing. I enjoyed my

532
00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:10.519
<v Speaker 2>time and I want to say thirty five hot dogs.

533
00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:13.839
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, Yeah, you're you're a little higher on

534
00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:16.799
<v Speaker 1>it than I am. It's a nice b plus, you've

535
00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:19.799
<v Speaker 1>been consistently higher on Daredevils Is to Jump than me.

536
00:27:20.279 --> 00:27:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I've never he's won me over. Now I love I

537
00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:25.920
<v Speaker 1>like Charlie Cox and his dedication. I have never liked

538
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:29.079
<v Speaker 1>Vincent Naffriel's Winston Wilson Fisk. I'm just dealing with him.

539
00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:32.680
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait until he finds you and fucking crushes

540
00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:33.400
<v Speaker 2>your head.

541
00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I think the worst thing about this season of television

542
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:43.119
<v Speaker 1>is probably Vincentinoffriel. Like I liked him, though, I just

543
00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:47.400
<v Speaker 1>don't like and we've now totally in the MCU had

544
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:50.279
<v Speaker 1>like three different Fisks, Like I.

545
00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Just have some shows that he's appeared in.

546
00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:55.759
<v Speaker 1>He's been figuring out, like which Fisk is the one

547
00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:59.039
<v Speaker 1>that should matter, and like they almost go too far

548
00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:01.279
<v Speaker 1>past to like try to redeem him in this season

549
00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>because he's like vulnerable and the last two times we

550
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:10.640
<v Speaker 1>saw him he was sort of vulnerable and more human

551
00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:16.119
<v Speaker 1>less animal. This season, he's he's more animalistic, more ruthless,

552
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:19.799
<v Speaker 1>and I suppose maybe that's what they want. But like,

553
00:28:19.839 --> 00:28:23.000
<v Speaker 1>there's no chemistry at all between him and Vanessa. You

554
00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:26.680
<v Speaker 1>don't feel like he actually loves Vanessa, and that is

555
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:28.119
<v Speaker 1>different from the Netflix show.

556
00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:31.039
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. There there's something missing between the

557
00:28:31.079 --> 00:28:32.759
<v Speaker 2>two of them. And maybe it's just that it's the

558
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:35.480
<v Speaker 2>distance that they had that to season three.

559
00:28:35.640 --> 00:28:38.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and maybe and maybe that's natural, Maybe that's intentional

560
00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:40.599
<v Speaker 1>how they're supposed to. Maybe they're just dealing with each

561
00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:43.279
<v Speaker 1>other now. But the essence of his character in the

562
00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Netflix show is he's doing everything for Vanessa, and now

563
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:51.359
<v Speaker 1>it's different now. Maybe again, maybe that's what they want.

564
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:53.599
<v Speaker 1>I just didn't care for it. I just do not

565
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:57.160
<v Speaker 1>care for him as Wilson Fisk. Every other character we

566
00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:01.160
<v Speaker 1>got pretty good, pretty good. I was entertained for most

567
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:04.119
<v Speaker 1>of the season. I love when John Bernhalt pops up.

568
00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I thought the show was consistently good, not great. I

569
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:12.839
<v Speaker 1>also felt like Heather Glenn, the girlfriend, you knew something

570
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:15.000
<v Speaker 1>that was up with her from the jump. I didn't think,

571
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:17.319
<v Speaker 1>so I'll take this back and said everyone else pretty good.

572
00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:19.200
<v Speaker 1>She was just okay to me. I didn't love her.

573
00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:21.559
<v Speaker 2>Her hair had too much life.

574
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:26.519
<v Speaker 1>So I was thinking like thirty two to thirty four

575
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:29.519
<v Speaker 1>when I was trying to frame it, I'll go smack

576
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:31.599
<v Speaker 1>dab in the middle on a thirty three there like

577
00:29:31.640 --> 00:29:34.839
<v Speaker 1>a B minus. It's a good show. It fits in

578
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>with the prior Daredevil stuff. I would imagine I was

579
00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:40.839
<v Speaker 1>right around there. I didn't look up my old reviews

580
00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:43.960
<v Speaker 1>for the other three seasons of Daredevil. I think they're all.

581
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:46.759
<v Speaker 1>I think one, two, and four are somewhat in the

582
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:49.720
<v Speaker 1>same range for me, and I think season three is

583
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:51.359
<v Speaker 1>a tier below those three.

584
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:53.759
<v Speaker 2>So what you're telling me is that your favorite season

585
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:56.680
<v Speaker 2>is the one where Fisk pops up for like two scenes,

586
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:00.240
<v Speaker 2>and the season that you dislike the most is the

587
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:04.039
<v Speaker 2>one where they brought him back. Yes, okay, all right,

588
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:09.279
<v Speaker 2>Mac Mac is sick of Kingpin. That's pretty I just.

589
00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:11.839
<v Speaker 1>Don't care for Dinafrio's Kingpin. I just don't.

590
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:14.039
<v Speaker 2>All right, shall we spoil.

591
00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:17.279
<v Speaker 1>Let's get to it spilier spoilers.

592
00:30:17.319 --> 00:30:20.200
<v Speaker 2>And I feel like, if you are gonna work on

593
00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:25.119
<v Speaker 2>this h on this plot of land that has no jurisdiction,

594
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:28.599
<v Speaker 2>that is not controlled by New York, by the government,

595
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:32.759
<v Speaker 2>and Fisk is running this pen as you would call it,

596
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:36.160
<v Speaker 2>with his little jail cells. In the instructional video when

597
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:39.200
<v Speaker 2>he hires you, the first thing it says is that

598
00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:44.319
<v Speaker 2>we know that you're gonna want to shake Frank Castle's hand.

599
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:49.880
<v Speaker 2>You need to with all of your power, resist shaking

600
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:51.039
<v Speaker 2>Frank Castle's hand.

601
00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:54.359
<v Speaker 1>So the post credits scene, if some of you missed it,

602
00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:57.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't stick around for the end of the finale here.

603
00:30:57.359 --> 00:30:59.759
<v Speaker 2>No, but doesny Plus put it out there for us

604
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:01.799
<v Speaker 2>and let us know, because at the bottom it said

605
00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:05.279
<v Speaker 2>skip credits. So you said there must be something after

606
00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:06.359
<v Speaker 2>these something here.

607
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:11.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So once again, if you're wondering how Frank Castle's

608
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:14.599
<v Speaker 1>spin off one off from Scartapane is going to be,

609
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.000
<v Speaker 1>we get a little introduction to it here. Frank Castle

610
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:21.000
<v Speaker 1>tricks a goon into coming close and he fucking well

611
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:26.240
<v Speaker 1>gets him. Presume we presume he got the keys escapes.

612
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:30.039
<v Speaker 1>But I didn't mind it because the people that are

613
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>like lining up to help Fisk or fucking dummies, they're goons,

614
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:37.119
<v Speaker 1>they're morons, and they idolize Frank Castle. So it works,

615
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, Like I know, it's a dumb decision, a

616
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:45.319
<v Speaker 1>dumb goon, but because of the context, it actually works.

617
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.039
<v Speaker 2>And this does set up his fifty minute special. I

618
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:51.319
<v Speaker 2>saw screen Crush talking about maybe him running through Magipoor,

619
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:54.319
<v Speaker 2>him just trying to take out all these crime bosses

620
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:57.559
<v Speaker 2>as something which would be a fun fifty minutes, or

621
00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:05.319
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's just him going to get a bite to eat.

622
00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Just ordering off the menu.

623
00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:06.039
<v Speaker 2>Has been really sitting. He's like, I'm pretty hungry. I've

624
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:08.279
<v Speaker 2>been in a I've been in a little cage for

625
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:09.920
<v Speaker 2>a while, I was chained up. I want to get

626
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:11.119
<v Speaker 2>myself a hido.

627
00:32:11.519 --> 00:32:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Now. I don't know uh shit about the comics, so

628
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:18.200
<v Speaker 1>hopefully one of our listeners can chime and maybe doctor Fryar,

629
00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:21.759
<v Speaker 1>is there a comic run where this Mayor Fisk has

630
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:24.240
<v Speaker 1>like a jail in his house like that.

631
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure about that, but Fryar and maybe we

632
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:28.839
<v Speaker 2>should have had Fryar on to talk about this. But

633
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:32.079
<v Speaker 2>Fryar has told me many times that the run of

634
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:34.839
<v Speaker 2>Mayor Fisk is quite a good run.

635
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:38.440
<v Speaker 1>So speaking of Mayor Fisk, he declares martial law at

636
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:41.599
<v Speaker 1>the end of this series, and now I'm curious because

637
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:45.279
<v Speaker 1>they have moved but coming up very soon in the Thunderbolts,

638
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Valentine is going to be based in New York City,

639
00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:50.359
<v Speaker 1>and we have a lot of heroes that are attached

640
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:54.000
<v Speaker 1>to New York City, most notably Spider Man. It feels

641
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:57.640
<v Speaker 1>almost like they're doing too much here because when we

642
00:32:57.680 --> 00:32:59.720
<v Speaker 1>get to the Avengers level stuff, we're not even gonna

643
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:02.240
<v Speaker 1>be t about martial law in New York City. Yeah,

644
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:03.599
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it doesn't matter.

645
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:05.640
<v Speaker 2>So Spider Man is the only Avenger.

646
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:07.079
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't matter.

647
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:09.559
<v Speaker 2>Spider Man is the only Avenger that I feel like

648
00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:12.880
<v Speaker 2>would care about the street level, what the mayor is

649
00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:16.599
<v Speaker 2>doing stuff. All the other Avengers might have their hands full.

650
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:19.759
<v Speaker 1>Well that that's what I mean here by the end

651
00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:23.279
<v Speaker 1>of this finale, where I almost just like don't even

652
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:25.480
<v Speaker 1>care that martial law is going on New York City.

653
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:28.519
<v Speaker 1>Like we're on a galactic level now, you know, Like

654
00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:31.799
<v Speaker 1>I we got bigger threats than fucking Wilson Fisk running

655
00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:34.039
<v Speaker 1>amuck in New York City. So I do think maybe

656
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:36.359
<v Speaker 1>there's a cool Spider Man story coming around the corner

657
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:39.039
<v Speaker 1>involving this, But for the most part, I'm like.

658
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:41.799
<v Speaker 2>We've already talked about this. I don't think Spider Man

659
00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:44.599
<v Speaker 2>can be in live action Disney shows, and I don't

660
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:47.279
<v Speaker 2>think that Fisk is allowed to be in movies. So

661
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:49.920
<v Speaker 2>they're like, even, what are we doing?

662
00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:50.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

663
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:52.880
<v Speaker 2>I think contractually that's how we bothered.

664
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:57.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm bothered by like this In New York.

665
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:01.319
<v Speaker 2>City, Daredevil wants to form a team, and his team

666
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:06.079
<v Speaker 2>is going to be Jess Jones, Punisher Moonnight.

667
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:10.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay, at the end there, when they're framing his team,

668
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:13.360
<v Speaker 1>what a mistake not to have Kristin Ritter as Jess

669
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:16.199
<v Speaker 1>Jones pop up in that bar, right, that would have

670
00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:20.280
<v Speaker 1>been a great pop and a perfect tease. She doesn't

671
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:22.119
<v Speaker 1>even need her show coming back, but for her to

672
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:24.559
<v Speaker 1>play a part that would have been cool, and like,

673
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:27.280
<v Speaker 1>that's where Jess Jones would be hole in the wall bar,

674
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:29.559
<v Speaker 1>Like didn't it feel like they were framing it that

675
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:34.400
<v Speaker 1>way too, Like, well, here's the bartender, here's the hostage negotiator,

676
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:36.599
<v Speaker 1>and then they're sort of turning. You're like, is Jess

677
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:37.559
<v Speaker 1>Jones gonna be there?

678
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:40.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean she is in the second season. We've already

679
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:44.239
<v Speaker 2>seen stills of that. My curiosity would be the other

680
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:51.159
<v Speaker 2>two defenders cage and then also so I've seen Moonnight

681
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:54.119
<v Speaker 2>as a possible person that could team up with them

682
00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:59.360
<v Speaker 2>some other smaller scale street level guys that could team

683
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:02.639
<v Speaker 2>up with them. I'm curious, and Friar brought her up

684
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:05.400
<v Speaker 2>as a possible tease that could happen in the finale,

685
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:07.599
<v Speaker 2>and I forget where they left off with her in

686
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:09.719
<v Speaker 2>the Netflix show with Electra.

687
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so she They basically don't even talk about her

688
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.280
<v Speaker 1>in season three if I recall that correctly, They just

689
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:16.840
<v Speaker 1>like sort of skip past.

690
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:21.159
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't she die in season two? And then she's brought

691
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:23.400
<v Speaker 2>back to life and the Defenders.

692
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they like the hand like resurrector sort of right.

693
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:32.320
<v Speaker 1>That's why season three of Daredevil's not great.

694
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:38.159
<v Speaker 2>You know who should play Electra? Carmen Electra. Heyo, we're in,

695
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:38.960
<v Speaker 2>We're both out.

696
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:44.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not even gonna go down that path

697
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:46.719
<v Speaker 1>because we're never gonna see Daredevil on the big screen.

698
00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:48.599
<v Speaker 2>So we already have. He was in Spider Man No

699
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Way Home.

700
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:50.920
<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm like, I'm like, you know what, I

701
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.199
<v Speaker 1>I enjoy these shows. I'm never gonna love these shows

702
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:57.159
<v Speaker 1>because they're fucking meaningless, I guess for lack of a

703
00:35:57.159 --> 00:35:57.679
<v Speaker 1>better term.

704
00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:00.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but remember that sweet fight scene and matt apartment

705
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:03.159
<v Speaker 2>with the cops. That was great with the Punisher.

706
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:04.679
<v Speaker 1>Son of a bitch. Cops really got what we're coming

707
00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>to him.

708
00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:08.440
<v Speaker 2>That was my favorite line when uh, when the Punisher

709
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:11.440
<v Speaker 2>goes to kill him and he's like, no, don't kill him.

710
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:14.519
<v Speaker 2>Frank like the least amount of effort in his voice

711
00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:16.880
<v Speaker 2>to be like, like in the past, he would have

712
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:19.159
<v Speaker 2>used his stick with the rope on it to like

713
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:21.760
<v Speaker 2>hit the gun or stop Frank from killing someone. And

714
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:23.840
<v Speaker 2>this is like, now, Frank, don't kill that guy.

715
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:26.480
<v Speaker 1>He's like, no, that was that one, So Frank shoots

716
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:27.360
<v Speaker 1>the other one would have bought that.

717
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:28.840
<v Speaker 2>No, that was a great scene.

718
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:31.639
<v Speaker 1>That ten minutes where they're fighting off like the ambush

719
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:34.039
<v Speaker 1>is fucking awesome. And then Frank versus all the goons

720
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:37.119
<v Speaker 1>at the end was awesome. I just love burnt All's

721
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:40.639
<v Speaker 1>Punisher is as much as like Charlie Cox's Daredevil works

722
00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Like Burntal when he grunts is like, fucking ugh, it's great.

723
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:47.280
<v Speaker 2>So that, but Charlie Cox is always grunting too and

724
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:47.679
<v Speaker 2>going to.

725
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:57.039
<v Speaker 1>That yeah, so that. The bank robbery episode episode five

726
00:36:57.199 --> 00:37:01.800
<v Speaker 1>is great and really kicks back in like into gear. Okay,

727
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:04.320
<v Speaker 1>we're gotta be Daredevil again, we gotta start doing shot again.

728
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:08.320
<v Speaker 2>That felt like a great Saturday morning television show one

729
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:10.559
<v Speaker 2>off of like, hey, let's have this bankives. We're gonna

730
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:12.400
<v Speaker 2>have the superhero save it. The one note that I

731
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:17.440
<v Speaker 2>would give them stop mentioning Kamala Khan. Stop mentioning miss Marvel.

732
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:21.159
<v Speaker 2>We know that's her dad. And even if they didn't

733
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:23.480
<v Speaker 2>mention her, they just showed the little funko pop on

734
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:26.039
<v Speaker 2>the desk and the dad just kind of mentioned having

735
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:28.239
<v Speaker 2>a daughter. That's really all you needed.

736
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:31.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's a fine little time. But we know

737
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Kamala Khan is not gonna pop in on Daredevil. So

738
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:36.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like, like, that's why I kind of wanted the

739
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Jones thing at the end, because you know he's

740
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:40.679
<v Speaker 1>not gonna cross over with anyone, which is again why

741
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:43.440
<v Speaker 1>this is all kind of meaningless, But I digress. We

742
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:45.400
<v Speaker 1>get the bank robbers episode, then we get the Mute,

743
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:49.199
<v Speaker 1>the two mus episodes. Fascinating character, really cool, really cool

744
00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:51.840
<v Speaker 1>little layer. The stakes were kind of high, and then

745
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.480
<v Speaker 1>he's just gone. We don't deal with Mus at all,

746
00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:58.440
<v Speaker 1>and the same way why Tiger gets got So they

747
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:02.880
<v Speaker 1>are just essentially distracts and the Daredevil versus Fisk, you know,

748
00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:04.559
<v Speaker 1>Gautlet we have.

749
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:08.159
<v Speaker 2>Here plays into all of these vigilantes being lumped together though.

750
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, and we get the episode eight now, goo, Honestly,

751
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:19.320
<v Speaker 1>I need any an honest opinion here. Why in the

752
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:27.159
<v Speaker 1>world would Matt Murdoch aka Daredevil jump in the way

753
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:29.880
<v Speaker 1>of a bullet that would kill Wilson Fisk and solve

754
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:31.239
<v Speaker 1>all of his problem?

755
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Do you want my serious answer or my joke card?

756
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:35.679
<v Speaker 1>I want both?

757
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So the first one is I think it's because

758
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:43.440
<v Speaker 2>he just found out that Vanessa was the person who

759
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:45.559
<v Speaker 2>put out the hit on Foggy Nelson, So.

760
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:48.519
<v Speaker 1>Stop right there. Yes, if Vanessa was getting shot, would

761
00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:50.039
<v Speaker 1>he have allowed Vanessa to be killed?

762
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:51.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

763
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:56.320
<v Speaker 1>All his problems would be solved if these motherfuckers were killed?

764
00:38:56.519 --> 00:39:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Or are you John? That's what he said, episod don't understand.

765
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:03.440
<v Speaker 1>So again, I'm trying not to get too bothered by

766
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:06.440
<v Speaker 1>it because it's meaningless. It's meanless, meaningless, meanless. Why are

767
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:08.760
<v Speaker 1>we gearing back up for with a team at the

768
00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:10.800
<v Speaker 1>end to fight Fisk when you could have just fucking

769
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:13.239
<v Speaker 1>let him die. He could have let him die.

770
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:16.599
<v Speaker 2>Do you think it's one of those things where Matt

771
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:20.000
<v Speaker 2>doesn't want someone else to kill Fisk. He wants to

772
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:21.519
<v Speaker 2>be the one that takes care of him.

773
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:24.079
<v Speaker 1>He's had plenty of opportunities to kill.

774
00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:28.639
<v Speaker 2>Fisk, He's biding his time. Do you think it's a

775
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:32.159
<v Speaker 2>Batman Joker thing where you know, Batman does want to

776
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:34.760
<v Speaker 2>put the Joker away, but he also kind of needs

777
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:35.800
<v Speaker 2>him to fuel him.

778
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:38.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how many years in now do we need

779
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:40.320
<v Speaker 1>for Matt to realize the legal system is not gonna

780
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:41.440
<v Speaker 1>take care of Wilson Fisk.

781
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:45.199
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's just like it's a subconscious thing of if

782
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:48.039
<v Speaker 2>he gets rid of Wilson Fisk, then there's gonna be

783
00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:52.400
<v Speaker 2>nothing that keeps him as Daredevil, Like he's not gonna

784
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:54.800
<v Speaker 2>want to be Daredevil anymore, and he needs Fisk to

785
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:56.079
<v Speaker 2>fuel him.

786
00:39:56.639 --> 00:39:59.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I just I don't I don't get why.

787
00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:01.000
<v Speaker 2>How is my joke card? By the way, that was

788
00:40:01.079 --> 00:40:01.559
<v Speaker 2>the answer.

789
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't get why. Like if Fits died, like everything

790
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:12.760
<v Speaker 1>would be better for everyone, and Matt doesn't let him die.

791
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:16.400
<v Speaker 1>And to me, that's where I lost interest in what

792
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:18.719
<v Speaker 1>was gonna happen in the finale. I loved that we

793
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:21.679
<v Speaker 1>got cool Daredevil and Punisher moments. I didn't give a

794
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:24.400
<v Speaker 1>fuck what was gonna happen, but what did happen? Which,

795
00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:27.039
<v Speaker 1>again I don't understand what he can and can't do.

796
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:30.199
<v Speaker 1>Wilson Fisk could just break a guy's whole head.

797
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.199
<v Speaker 2>Now, I love it. He's done that in the past.

798
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:34.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what are we doing? What are we doing?

799
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:37.440
<v Speaker 2>You saw Halloween when Michael Meyers stepped on that.

800
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:40.039
<v Speaker 1>I understand anything about that character.

801
00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:42.119
<v Speaker 2>He turned that man's head into cake.

802
00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:47.239
<v Speaker 1>I just I just can't keep I'm just gonna keep

803
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:49.840
<v Speaker 1>watching against this series and enjoying it anywhere from thirty

804
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:52.280
<v Speaker 1>to thirty four Dogs and being like, yeah, there were

805
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:54.639
<v Speaker 1>some good moments. Yeah, it's it's good.

806
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you a question, and maybe this is obvious,

807
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:01.239
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just a fucking idiot. Did Fisk know the

808
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:05.880
<v Speaker 2>whole time that that port was an open land and

809
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:08.519
<v Speaker 2>this was always his end goal? Or he stumbled upon

810
00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:10.159
<v Speaker 2>it while in office?

811
00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. And I feel like they didn't spend

812
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:14.760
<v Speaker 1>enough time on that because it's this big sort of reveal,

813
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:16.440
<v Speaker 1>even though the audience already knows.

814
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:17.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, And I was listening back to the

815
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:20.159
<v Speaker 2>conversation and I'm like, if he knew the whole time

816
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:24.280
<v Speaker 2>and this was his big sweeping plan to bring Vanessa

817
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:27.400
<v Speaker 2>back toward him Like that kind of makes sense.

818
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess you're right about that. I don't know.

819
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm just so uninterested in the him and Vanessa stuff

820
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:34.119
<v Speaker 1>because they seem uninterested.

821
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:36.000
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of tough, you know, when you have to

822
00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:40.119
<v Speaker 2>keep on impressing your wife with cool, open barges that

823
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:40.719
<v Speaker 2>you can.

824
00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:43.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, with fucking live stock in your basement.

825
00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:45.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't think she loves him.

826
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:49.079
<v Speaker 1>I I she certainly does not love.

827
00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:52.360
<v Speaker 2>Him, And I also so I also thought that she

828
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:56.079
<v Speaker 2>let Poindexter go to first off kill Foggy Nelson, but

829
00:41:56.320 --> 00:41:58.760
<v Speaker 2>also as a thing of like, if she kills Fisk,

830
00:41:58.800 --> 00:41:59.440
<v Speaker 2>what are you gonna do?

831
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:03.519
<v Speaker 1>Right? And that's I know, you lose one of your

832
00:42:03.519 --> 00:42:06.480
<v Speaker 1>central characters. That's a much more interesting story.

833
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Ifa is the one that kills him.

834
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes, thank you goose. That writes itself.

835
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:17.559
<v Speaker 2>Also, so Bullseye shoots at Fisk's chest, I would say, yeah,

836
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:19.559
<v Speaker 2>that's not an effective shot, is it? You want to

837
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:20.519
<v Speaker 2>shoot for his head, right?

838
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:23.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean a headshot would be better. But then Matt

839
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:25.199
<v Speaker 1>Murdock can't jump that high to save you.

840
00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:28.000
<v Speaker 2>No, Hi, Matt can jump Mac and leap. Matt can

841
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:28.599
<v Speaker 2>do flips.

842
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's interesting that a man named Bullseye who

843
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:35.400
<v Speaker 1>canonically can hit anything he wants.

844
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:38.119
<v Speaker 2>It and everything on this show, he's nailed everything.

845
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know why you wouldn't shoot him right

846
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:44.559
<v Speaker 1>through the eyeball right, makes no sense, But cinematically, Matt

847
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:47.519
<v Speaker 1>can't do this dive across and get shot in the chest,

848
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:49.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, So that's why that happens.

849
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh, you know, my favorite part of the entire show

850
00:42:51.960 --> 00:42:56.880
<v Speaker 2>was Okay, So in the finale, so the Punisher shows up.

851
00:42:56.920 --> 00:43:00.320
<v Speaker 2>He's shaven, he has a nice haircut, and Matt points

852
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:02.199
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh, and you're also wearing aftershave.

853
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:05.280
<v Speaker 2>And that was all because Karen was coming back and

854
00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:08.280
<v Speaker 2>he wanted to look good for Karen. I fucking love

855
00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:11.639
<v Speaker 2>that he wants the fuck Yeah, but does he He

856
00:43:11.719 --> 00:43:14.239
<v Speaker 2>has a connection to her, but he also doesn't want

857
00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:15.719
<v Speaker 2>to do anything with her because he doesn't want to

858
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:18.159
<v Speaker 2>forget about his family. And if he does fuck her,

859
00:43:18.199 --> 00:43:20.440
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna forget about his family, like all of us.

860
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:24.599
<v Speaker 1>Memory loss that post not clarity memory.

861
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:28.119
<v Speaker 2>Like did I have children and a wife?

862
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:31.760
<v Speaker 1>What was I doing this whole thing? Oh?

863
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine if he doesn't. He's like, why am I?

864
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:35.159
<v Speaker 2>Why am I punishing?

865
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:37.360
<v Speaker 1>What am I? Why am I wearing this? I don't

866
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:38.079
<v Speaker 1>even like black?

867
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:42.920
<v Speaker 2>What is this skull on my shirt? Who am I? Sid?

868
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:47.840
<v Speaker 2>I really like the show.

869
00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed it.

870
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:52.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't love it as much as the original show,

871
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:55.960
<v Speaker 2>but I love what they were going for, and I

872
00:43:56.079 --> 00:43:58.599
<v Speaker 2>think that they're gonna do better in season two.

873
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I could give a fuck with him? Is the wolfson Fisk?

874
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:03.079
<v Speaker 1>At this point? I just want to see Punisher and

875
00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Daredevil do cool shit?

876
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Is there anything else from this episode that we forgot?

877
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. I'm sure there's a number of things.

878
00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:12.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Oh, Foggy's dead.

879
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:15.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, Foggy's dead. Cat.

880
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:17.719
<v Speaker 2>That was a great scene too. Is that Matt is

881
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:20.480
<v Speaker 2>fighting Bullseye while listening to Foggy's heartbeat?

882
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:22.280
<v Speaker 1>And I thought it was a good way to get

883
00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you into the show again, you know, good like, oh shit,

884
00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:28.320
<v Speaker 1>the stakes have been raised from the jump.

885
00:44:33.679 --> 00:44:39.519
<v Speaker 2>Let's get into Mac Sack and mack Sack could be anything.

886
00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:42.559
<v Speaker 2>It could be a boat and Mac while watching an

887
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:46.119
<v Speaker 2>old YouTube video earlier taught in the Shadows, I enjoy

888
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:51.199
<v Speaker 2>his music reviews, he went in and reminded us of,

889
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:54.519
<v Speaker 2>first off, one of our favorite trends from the nineties,

890
00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:58.440
<v Speaker 2>which was cartoons wearing hip hop clothing. And not only

891
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:01.320
<v Speaker 2>was a cartoon or in hip hop clothing, but back

892
00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:05.800
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety four, Disney released a hip hop album

893
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:10.960
<v Speaker 2>called Mickey Unrapped, and this featured Mickey and his friends rapping.

894
00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:14.199
<v Speaker 2>I'll show a picture on the YouTube screen. I'll describe

895
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:15.719
<v Speaker 2>it to you right now. Mac is looking at it

896
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:18.159
<v Speaker 2>right now. It is Mickey with a backwards ball cap

897
00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:23.679
<v Speaker 2>and saggy jeans over his red shorts along with boots. Mac.

898
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:27.440
<v Speaker 2>I am gonna read you a list of song titles

899
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:31.960
<v Speaker 2>that could be on Mickey Unrapped. Okay, I would like

900
00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:34.519
<v Speaker 2>you to tell me if this is a real song

901
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:37.800
<v Speaker 2>from Mickey Unrapped or if it is something that I

902
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:38.480
<v Speaker 2>have made up.

903
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:40.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh, these are original rap songs.

904
00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:43.599
<v Speaker 2>No, there are more covers and they're more playing with

905
00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:46.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, songs of the time.

906
00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:49.159
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, yeah, good, and do good enough

907
00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:52.639
<v Speaker 1>job of describing the saggy jeans over the tims.

908
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:58.519
<v Speaker 2>That's right, he's also wearing tims, all right, Mac. First

909
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:03.159
<v Speaker 2>song up here sung by minute Ice Ice Mickey, Yeah,

910
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:06.239
<v Speaker 2>move to the beat yellow shoes on his feet.

911
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:09.119
<v Speaker 1>That is correct, you tell me, Okay, I was right.

912
00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:12.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just did a lyric from the song I

913
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:15.159
<v Speaker 2>Love a Lot. I'm not allowed to play the songs

914
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:17.679
<v Speaker 2>on YouTube and on the stream, so I didn't know.

915
00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:19.400
<v Speaker 1>What was gonna happen. I didn't know if we're gonna

916
00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:20.159
<v Speaker 1>get a ding ding ding.

917
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:26.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't have any sound effects. Goofy's Paradise sung by Goofy,

918
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:29.159
<v Speaker 2>of course, yeah, very real. I made that up.

919
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Ah fuck, god, damn it. Good one.

920
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:34.440
<v Speaker 2>That's a good fig You should have noticed that Goofy's

921
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Gangster's Paradise came out in nineteen ninety five. This album's

922
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:38.119
<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety five.

923
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Good Call you, good call?

924
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:44.400
<v Speaker 2>All right? How about sung by Minni Mouse? What a Mouse?

925
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:47.599
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't care for the title, so made.

926
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Up, incorrect. What a Mouse by Mini Mouse is a

927
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:51.880
<v Speaker 2>real song, like.

928
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:53.880
<v Speaker 1>What a Mouse? What a mouse? What a mouse? What

929
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:55.199
<v Speaker 1>a mighty good mouse?

930
00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:58.559
<v Speaker 2>You know that he's loyal because you never hear about

931
00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:01.800
<v Speaker 2>him with another girl. It's an actual line from the

932
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:06.199
<v Speaker 2>song when talking about Mickey. Yeah, it was a goof day.

933
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:08.480
<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't give me two fake goof ones.

934
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:11.360
<v Speaker 2>It's real that one is also fake. A take on

935
00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:16.119
<v Speaker 2>it was it was a Good Day by gorse a

936
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:19.079
<v Speaker 2>Goose was a good day. I didn't have to take

937
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:19.719
<v Speaker 2>up my ak.

938
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's gonna be all real except for the

939
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:23.599
<v Speaker 1>goofy ones.

940
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:30.079
<v Speaker 2>How about sung by Daisy California Adventure Love.

941
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:34.039
<v Speaker 1>California Love was ninety five or ninety six, So that's fake.

942
00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:38.199
<v Speaker 2>Shouldn't have told you that one from earlier. How about

943
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:43.280
<v Speaker 2>bow Wow to the Beat sung by Pluto litl bow Wow.

944
00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Is like six, so I'm gonna say also.

945
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Fake, this is real? Actually, oh okay, this is Pluto

946
00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:51.880
<v Speaker 2>bow Wow to the beat featuring Whoopy Goldberg.

947
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:52.639
<v Speaker 1>Bow Wow Wow.

948
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yo, yep, that's not the song. This is no

949
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:57.360
<v Speaker 2>The song is just Pluto making dog noises.

950
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Remember that song? It might have been a little Romeo.

951
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Actually it was a little Little Romeo or a little

952
00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:07.320
<v Speaker 1>bow Wow had a song with Solange Knowles, I didn't know,

953
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:11.000
<v Speaker 1>the sister of Beyonce in like three. It's pretty good.

954
00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh five.

955
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Maybe Ducks in the Hood.

956
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:18.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's real.

957
00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:20.599
<v Speaker 2>That is real and it's done by Huey Dewey and

958
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Louie fuf That Ducks in the Hood were three tough

959
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:29.519
<v Speaker 2>ducks with an attitude. Some say we're cool, some say

960
00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:34.760
<v Speaker 2>we're rude. Once again, this is a real album put

961
00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:39.440
<v Speaker 2>out by Disney in nineteen ninety four. You can't botch this.

962
00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Can't touch this. Du Botch doesn't seem like a word

963
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:46.039
<v Speaker 1>Disney would use. So I'm gonna say it's fake.

964
00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:49.320
<v Speaker 2>You are incorrect. This is done by Goofy, Mickey Minnie,

965
00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:53.280
<v Speaker 2>and Pluto. You can't botch this unbelievable. I turned on

966
00:48:53.320 --> 00:49:00.480
<v Speaker 2>the hose and my lawn became a lake. What Goofy says?

967
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Nothing but a goof thing?

968
00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:06.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm all fucked up by the Goofy. Shit. Uh, nothing

969
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:09.800
<v Speaker 1>but a g thing, baby, nothing but a goof thing.

970
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:12.159
<v Speaker 1>Who that's gotta be real?

971
00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Give me that one is also fake, you piece of shit?

972
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:17.559
<v Speaker 1>You fucking asshole.

973
00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:21.199
<v Speaker 2>How about Big Daka?

974
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:25.320
<v Speaker 1>I would just say it's real, because I don't think

975
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:26.679
<v Speaker 1>you would come up with something that bad.

976
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:32.199
<v Speaker 2>Sung by the Seven Dwarfs, it's fake. I made that

977
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:32.559
<v Speaker 2>one up.

978
00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Fuck fuck a what you call it?

979
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:38.559
<v Speaker 2>Big Down with Big Pete?

980
00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:44.880
<v Speaker 1>But this is over Down with Big.

981
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Pete to the tune of Fuck the Police.

982
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:48.599
<v Speaker 1>That is real.

983
00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:52.920
<v Speaker 2>That is not real? Why would they do that? And

984
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:54.960
<v Speaker 2>then finally Gin and goof.

985
00:49:55.960 --> 00:49:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Not getting got by goofy again.

986
00:49:57.400 --> 00:50:00.719
<v Speaker 2>This is fake goof doggy dog. You are correct, that

987
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:01.320
<v Speaker 2>is fake.

988
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:04.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I don't think the mouse would uh

989
00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:05.840
<v Speaker 1>support the gin part of that.

990
00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:08.320
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to think of what else to put

991
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:10.280
<v Speaker 2>for gin. I'm like, I'll just change the goof, goof

992
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:13.639
<v Speaker 2>and juice. I've already fallen back on goof seven times

993
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:19.800
<v Speaker 2>in my other fake time six got me six. So

994
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:22.679
<v Speaker 2>go and check out that album. It's on YouTube all right, Mac,

995
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:24.039
<v Speaker 2>Where can the folks find us?

996
00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:26.920
<v Speaker 1>You can find us on Twitter and on Instagram at

997
00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:29.800
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998
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999
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<v Speaker 2>Tea public dot Com. How often do you doom scroll

1007
00:50:57.119 --> 00:50:59.320
<v Speaker 2>all the time? Oh, the fucking time. I'm dead.

1008
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Every time, I shit, every time I forget what I'm doing,

1009
00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:06.719
<v Speaker 1>I'll just open my There's sometimes i'll doom scroll. I'm like, oh,

1010
00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I was supposed to be doing something, stop doom scrolling.

1011
00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Then forget what I had to do and continue doom scrolling.

1012
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I'd also like to uh I didn't say yet. You know,

1013
00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:18.800
<v Speaker 1>for the folks that have tuned in this late, I'd

1014
00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:21.239
<v Speaker 1>like to congratulate Goo on his sweet and Jeremy ronic

1015
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:22.679
<v Speaker 1>Arizona Coyotes jersey.

1016
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:25.159
<v Speaker 2>I was looking for a Daddy Kuchuk one, but they

1017
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:27.719
<v Speaker 2>only had the whites, and I prefer the black. And

1018
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:29.360
<v Speaker 2>I said, you know what, styles is fine.

1019
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not a ronic guy. I'm not a ronic guy, but.

1020
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:33.559
<v Speaker 2>I like ronic. I love Kachuk.

1021
00:51:33.679 --> 00:51:38.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, agreed, there Kachuk local guy as well. I gotta say,

1022
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:41.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, when we look back, you know, in general,

1023
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:45.000
<v Speaker 1>eighty percent of what the nineties did to sports uniforms

1024
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:48.280
<v Speaker 1>were bad, but the twenty percent truly all amazing. That

1025
00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:50.960
<v Speaker 1>the Raptors jerseys that got shipped off for a while

1026
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and now they've come back full force. Like there are

1027
00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:55.239
<v Speaker 1>some truly great ones, including the one you're wearing.

1028
00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:59.400
<v Speaker 2>I also couldn't find a Dallas Drake Jersey. He was

1029
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:00.599
<v Speaker 2>on the Coyote, I believe.

1030
00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:03.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he might have been. Yeah, they were.

1031
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:05.119
<v Speaker 2>Always a decent team. They were never great, but they

1032
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:07.960
<v Speaker 2>were always good. It was it was a lot going

1033
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:09.400
<v Speaker 2>on in the Western Conference at the time.

1034
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:11.519
<v Speaker 1>Is that where Hobby Bouen went ended up there?

1035
00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:13.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I mean he might have played for a

1036
00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:14.199
<v Speaker 2>bunch of different teams.

1037
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:16.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, like a real archer Derby.

1038
00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:18.559
<v Speaker 2>But I mean at that time, Arthur Jerbey was great

1039
00:52:18.760 --> 00:52:21.880
<v Speaker 2>at that time though, Phoenix was dealing with Dallas, Colorado,

1040
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:26.079
<v Speaker 2>Detroit just fucking powerhouses the load the end of like

1041
00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:29.239
<v Speaker 2>the Saint Leactually know Saint Louis had already trade Hull,

1042
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:31.400
<v Speaker 2>so never mind, it was before Saint Louis got good

1043
00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:32.760
<v Speaker 2>again with mcginnison Pronger.

1044
00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because Pronger's rookie year was like oh one, maybe two.

1045
00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:39.519
<v Speaker 2>No, Pronger's rookie year, he was he was in the

1046
00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:40.840
<v Speaker 2>nineties and he was on Dallas.

1047
00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't it nineties? No, Promor wasn't on He wasn't on

1048
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:46.440
<v Speaker 1>that star Seemo in the Cup?

1049
00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:48.280
<v Speaker 2>Is that what you're saying he was on Harford. Actually

1050
00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:49.960
<v Speaker 2>he started with Hartford, he did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wow, I didn't know he came into the league.

1052
00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:55.000
<v Speaker 2>That early, when he was nineteen and nineteen ninety three.

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00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:57.320
<v Speaker 1>He's been retired for like a decade now, so that

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00:52:57.360 --> 00:52:58.159
<v Speaker 1>makes fucking sense.

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<v Speaker 2>But also, he was all most in the Wayne Gretzky

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00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:03.199
<v Speaker 2>trade when they got Gretzky from the Kings. But the

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<v Speaker 2>Blues were like, yeah, we're gonna hold on to this guy.

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00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Al mckinnis real hard slap shot.

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00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh, you could shoot the puck real fast.

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00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:10.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, show's over. I guess go home.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so on Monday, Sinners, I hope, or Goose Day Sinners,

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00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:22.239
<v Speaker 2>I hope.

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00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:25.239
<v Speaker 1>We'll try try, we'll try both miss screening.

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00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:26.880
<v Speaker 2>And then at the end of the week Revenge of

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00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:30.000
<v Speaker 2>the Sith Okay, yeah, or we can flip it if

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00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:30.880
<v Speaker 2>you want. It's up to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Sinners. Great early reviews. I'm

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00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:38.760
<v Speaker 1>getting excited for that one and my girl Hailey Steinfeld's so.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also really excited about rewatching Revenge of the Sith.

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00:53:41.719 --> 00:53:43.199
<v Speaker 1>I am too. Actually, it's.

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00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:48.800
<v Speaker 2>It's pretty great. I'm not gonna lie. Great yeah, I

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00:53:48.840 --> 00:53:49.400
<v Speaker 2>think it is.

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00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:51.639
<v Speaker 1>So that's like thirty six Dogs.

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00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:54.320
<v Speaker 2>I think, with hindsight and comparing it to other Star

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00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Wars stuff, I think it's pretty great.

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00:53:56.800 --> 00:53:58.760
<v Speaker 1>At the time, I loved it. I know that back

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00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:00.119
<v Speaker 1>in five when I watched it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, right, and we'll get into it with the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can pick and choose a couple things

1082
00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:05.559
<v Speaker 2>out of it to take out of it.

1083
00:54:06.039 --> 00:54:09.519
<v Speaker 1>But overall, the PlayStation two game that came out with

1084
00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:12.599
<v Speaker 1>the movie that got of the movie, great fucking game.

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00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Great game.

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00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:16.039
<v Speaker 2>Alright, so check us out then Tuesdays or Goosdays. I

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00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:18.800
<v Speaker 2>have used Kangaroos Tambarton.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye.

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<v Speaker 2>Please flip the cassette over to side B to continue

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<v Speaker 2>the adventure. Now it's time for girls jumping on trampapa

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<v Speaker 2>Leens