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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>So one thing that I did not mention when discussing

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<v Speaker 2>the ESPN decision to opt in for the back half

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<v Speaker 2>of the ACC ESPN grant of rights deal. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they had until February first to pick up the option

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<v Speaker 2>on their twenty year contract that it was signed in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen. For some reason, I was thinking it was

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit before that, but I do forget Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>was in the ACC before the network actually launched some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>It just seems like it was kind of all at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time. But anyways, not only are they going

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<v Speaker 2>to start giving revenue, you know, more revenue to those

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<v Speaker 2>that actually are doing things to bring the league revenue,

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<v Speaker 2>right like you get what you get what you earn,

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<v Speaker 2>which I really do believe, you're going to see other

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<v Speaker 2>conferences the next time they're up to discuss a new

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<v Speaker 2>deal or extend their deal, whatever it may be. They're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna the big dogs are gonna are gonna want more.

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<v Speaker 2>And I always could have done that, but think about it, now,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to even if you are a program that

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<v Speaker 2>that knows you got a lot of money coming your

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<v Speaker 2>way more so than others. You have to keep in

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<v Speaker 2>mind that you now have an annual twenty million dollar

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<v Speaker 2>bill that never existed before. That's just a humongous expense

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<v Speaker 2>for for everybody for the most part, clearly a bigger

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<v Speaker 2>one for schools that don't produce a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>big revenue. So if you know, heck you could you

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<v Speaker 2>could be a top producer in your conference. And if

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<v Speaker 2>and if they have a stipulation that you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get a bigger chunk, if you are a factor in

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<v Speaker 2>the earnings, it could make it to where that annual

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<v Speaker 2>twenty million dollars is nothing. Right, you don't even have

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<v Speaker 2>to worry about that added expense that didn't used to

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<v Speaker 2>be there. So I mean that that, to me is

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<v Speaker 2>is something that makes a lot of sense. But what

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<v Speaker 2>I did not mention is that noted aim is also

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a part of the I guess the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of this contract. As far as they're they have

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<v Speaker 2>a very weird deal right like they're they absolutely have

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<v Speaker 2>bullied the ACC for years now, and I know the

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<v Speaker 2>ACC not putting their feet to the fire and telling

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame you're not going to have a season in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty if you don't join our conference. But just

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<v Speaker 2>letting them join it for a year only such a

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<v Speaker 2>weak move by Swafford, But you know, or Phil I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not even sure if it was swafordor Phillips who did it,

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<v Speaker 2>but either way, I think I think it was think

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<v Speaker 2>of Swafford because that's that was, you know, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the many things he did on his way out that

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<v Speaker 2>I think put the league in a terrible spot. And

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<v Speaker 2>like people within the ACC, you know, the the Ogs,

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<v Speaker 2>the Carolina schools, like they feel like they're they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to instantly drop dead if they say something bad about Swafford,

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<v Speaker 2>which is just odd to me. But anyways, Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 2>is in the league, but not right and again they

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<v Speaker 2>they we talked about this as during the lead up

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<v Speaker 2>to the National Championship, like Notre Dame, they are different

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<v Speaker 2>in a maze. They're different than anybody in college football

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<v Speaker 2>and they know it. Nobody else could do what they

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<v Speaker 2>do and they know it. So it was weird that

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<v Speaker 2>they kind of had this rudy feel to them because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, everybody's been doubting them because they lost in

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<v Speaker 2>Northern Illinois, and everybody's been, you know, saying they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get blown out because you know they're not any good,

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<v Speaker 2>and sure enough, they ended up proving a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people wrong. They were really good team this year, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're gonna be really good with Marcus for

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<v Speaker 2>even moving forward. So you know, the conversation at the

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<v Speaker 2>time was like, look, they they're a team that I

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<v Speaker 2>still feel like the majority of people will root against

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<v Speaker 2>them if they're not fans and they're I wouldn't call

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<v Speaker 2>them like a villain, but you know, you either like

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<v Speaker 2>them or you don't like them, or maybe you hate them,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, they Let's put it this way, the ACC,

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<v Speaker 2>who already has a tough time with the league having

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<v Speaker 2>marquee games that that give real value as far as

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<v Speaker 2>resumes to make the twelve team playoff. If Notre Dames said,

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<v Speaker 2>or if the ACC said, no, you're in or you're out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what they would do. They would be out

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<v Speaker 2>and they would go schedule their own They would they

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<v Speaker 2>would do their own thing, and the league would be

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<v Speaker 2>in a worse spot because you actually need the Notre

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<v Speaker 2>Dame games on your schedule, even though they're not a

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<v Speaker 2>full league member. But you know they get to play

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<v Speaker 2>what four or five games depending on I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>every other year, So you need them and they are

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<v Speaker 2>willing to not you know, they're they're willing to play

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<v Speaker 2>ball as well, which again I'm here I am thinking like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>do they have a say soul, I guess they do

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<v Speaker 2>because again they can kind of do what they want.

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<v Speaker 2>They get to benefit it from us whenever they want,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, they don't have to join the league,

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<v Speaker 2>but they It sounds like the league is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be pretty strategic in giving Clemson, Florida State, Miami, Carolina, Louisville,

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<v Speaker 2>even those kind of schools more of a more of

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<v Speaker 2>more opportunities to go up against Notre Dame because you clearly,

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<v Speaker 2>you know Notre Dame having I don't know, Boston College

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<v Speaker 2>on the schedule or you know, Pittsburgh on the schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that those are probably gonna be games. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame is gonna win and Notre Dame, let's be real,

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<v Speaker 2>because of them not having a conference they need to

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<v Speaker 2>get I mean, they don't have they can't go win

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<v Speaker 2>a league and get in, right, So like they they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna they're gonna benefit from this two meeting. If they've

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<v Speaker 2>got every every year they're playing one of the ACC

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe two of the ACC's best teams, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it could mean that they lose those games. But also

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna they're gonna need that, right because they're games

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<v Speaker 2>that they play against teams every year, like Navy. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that that's not it. That's it's not a resume game.

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<v Speaker 2>Their game every year against USC. I guess it really

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<v Speaker 2>just depends. Didn't they played USC this year? Didn't they

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<v Speaker 2>think they did at the very end. Yeah, And then

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<v Speaker 2>who's their other rival? I feel like they have another

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<v Speaker 2>rival that they play every year Notre Dame does is

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<v Speaker 2>it Michigan?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that one's been on and off, and weirdly enough,

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<v Speaker 1>Purdue is also been okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So again they could have a down year on

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<v Speaker 2>their schedule like they did this year. If you remember,

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<v Speaker 2>that was a big that was a big part of

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation about Notre Dame this year. They looked like

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<v Speaker 2>they had a more manageable schedule than ever, and they

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<v Speaker 2>slipped up and lost NIU early, and you know, looked

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<v Speaker 2>like they were going to be screwed, and sure enough,

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<v Speaker 2>they made it all the way to the National Championship Game.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, it's good news for the ACC overall. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that any belief that the league may actually dissolve

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<v Speaker 2>before twenty thirty six, I think today's news confirms that

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<v Speaker 2>won't happen. And nobody's going to be leaving because they can't.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think if you are a if you're a

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<v Speaker 2>Clemson and you're worried about having such a gap between

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<v Speaker 2>you and South Carolina with revenue, if you're Florida State

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<v Speaker 2>and you cannot believe that, you know, Florida is getting

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<v Speaker 2>way that much more than you now, and even little

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<v Speaker 2>old Central Florida in the Big Twelve, although they're not

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<v Speaker 2>they're not getting what Florida's getting, they're getting close to

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<v Speaker 2>what you're getting. Like that, that kind of stuff matters

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<v Speaker 2>to people. But now if you are a big revenue producer,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna get way more and it'll probably, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>certainly it's going to close the gap with the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's the thing when when you're peers in other

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<v Speaker 2>conferences that you do kind of compare yourself to understandably

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<v Speaker 2>your fans do. That's that's why that stuff matters. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to be able to close that gap by

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<v Speaker 2>bringing viewership and you know, having success. It won't be

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, heck, I don't. Maybe maybe it'll actually close

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<v Speaker 2>the gap more so than I'm expecting. But again, good

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<v Speaker 2>news for the ACC. All right, it's coffee and company.

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<v Speaker 2>Fee about Thorton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. If

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<v Speaker 2>you if you thought, hey, I recognize that voice, not

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<v Speaker 2>mine the other and it's it's it's him, folks, He's

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<v Speaker 2>back the company man, mister John Alden has made his

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<v Speaker 2>way back here with us for the afternoon, filling in

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<v Speaker 2>for Austin who's out and he's been up since what

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<v Speaker 2>three o'clock in the morning. That's right, I mean, goodness, gracious,

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<v Speaker 2>are you running on fumes?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm actually feeling pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, you see, you seem like you,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like this is like you didn't get up

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the night.

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<v Speaker 1>This is usually the time of day when I'm taking

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<v Speaker 1>my mid afternoon nap.

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<v Speaker 2>Though how or how I cannot see you being a

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<v Speaker 2>nap guy. But again, okay, I was gonna say, because

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of have to be. But also, am I

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<v Speaker 2>right in the assumption that if it wouldn't have been

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<v Speaker 2>for this current schedule with with your gig, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>just can't see you ever being like I'm gonna take

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<v Speaker 2>a nap, like it's right and there seems so not you,

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<v Speaker 2>which I mean that as a compliment. Naps can be great,

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<v Speaker 2>but like you know, it's not productive by any means.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>There are days when I nap longer than I want to,

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<v Speaker 1>and at that point it makes me feel like I've

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<v Speaker 1>wasted the rest of my day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and even though it's yeah, even though you know

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<v Speaker 2>it's part of like what is very much much normal

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<v Speaker 2>and really needed because of the of the schedule, I

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<v Speaker 2>just that's the one for naps. I mean, I feel worse,

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<v Speaker 2>like I feel groggy and just like you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>always grumpy after a nap, and I feel like you're

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<v Speaker 2>not sick, but just kind of like man like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, lethargic, I suppose, And I just feel bad

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<v Speaker 2>mentally because I'm like I didn't need that nap. I

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<v Speaker 2>could have got something done, even if it would have

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<v Speaker 2>been spending three hours on TikTok. You know, maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that was good for brain activity. Maybe it was actually

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<v Speaker 2>sleep may actually be better at that point. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't even got to the Indiana Hoosiers just yet.

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<v Speaker 2>And and trust me, I'm not going to have you.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you probably don't want to talk about them

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot. But is it safe to say that,

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of what happens the rest of the way, meaning

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<v Speaker 2>like tournament or not, I mean, Woodson, he had a

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<v Speaker 2>team that shouldn't be in this position, and I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they're going to fire them, And

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<v Speaker 2>that's not what I'm asking you to answer, But no

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<v Speaker 2>doubt like that. Our conversations during the summer, during the

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<v Speaker 2>offseason were pretty consistent that one thing that was beneficial

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<v Speaker 2>for Indiana fans, not only with him going out and

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<v Speaker 2>building a really good roster, was that you're going to know,

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<v Speaker 2>right like, if he's in this position, the one that

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<v Speaker 2>he's in now, it's a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it is interesting. They play Purdue tomorrow, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest rival, and he has had not recently. He

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<v Speaker 1>did have produced number for a little while in the

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<v Speaker 1>early going part of his tenure. I do think a

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to, maybe you can kind of turn things around.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, I'm kind of I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>to turn some things around. But yeah, that's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>Well, And I think I'd be a real phony to

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<v Speaker 2>I just I think it's just hard to to to

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<v Speaker 2>like the coaching is just not I mean, even if

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<v Speaker 2>it's not because he's drawn up bad sets or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>Because I still stand by what I said Indiana has

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<v Speaker 2>of the guards that transferred in aren't necessarily you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Don't like he utilized it correctly.

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<v Speaker 2>And again that I just I feel like it's not

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<v Speaker 2>to say he's done something crazy, but you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>And why they're not good doesn't mean he's a terrible coach,

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<v Speaker 2>but like they should be better, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>if they're coached by somebody else, I think they'd maybe

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<v Speaker 2>be substantially better. We'll never know. Maybe that's unfair to say,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, I don't want to act like he's the

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<v Speaker 2>worst coach ever because I don't believe that. But I mean, well, I'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Say this real quick too.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been a number of losses, not the most recent losses,

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<v Speaker 1>but the first five of the season. We're all blowouts,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, including when when Louisville took him to the

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<v Speaker 1>You've said this before too, Nick, those teams kind of

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<v Speaker 1>look like Kenny Payne unprepared type teams. Oh that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>not a recipe for success in any way, shape or form.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like at times when Indiana does play well

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<v Speaker 2>and they end up getting a win, or maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>compete more so than you expect. I mean, I just

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<v Speaker 2>think it's because they have Like I mean, Malik renew

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<v Speaker 2>is a good player. I mean, bollow is Actually his

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<v Speaker 2>numbers are phenomenal. He's lazy beating double double. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>like he's he's he's talented. Which of the which of

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<v Speaker 2>the two guards has ended up actually being pretty good?

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<v Speaker 1>Miles Rice has been good? Yeah, Canaan carlysle he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>been relegated to a bench roll. Yeah, there's there's games

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<v Speaker 1>where he comes off. It comes off the bench, doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember Rice is somebody that didn't play well

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<v Speaker 2>early on, but then since then, like he's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>gotten more comfortable, and like I just they should be better.

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<v Speaker 2>And the big ten's not scary good at all, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Like it it just isn't so

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, we'll see again. There's still a bubble team.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I saw ANARTI has them as one of

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<v Speaker 2>the last four out, so they'll have opportunities. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think even that like he kind of reminds if he

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<v Speaker 2>makes the tournament and they lose in the round of

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<v Speaker 2>sixty four in a close game to like a to

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<v Speaker 2>like a non seed and they're an eight seed or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is. That would be at that point better

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<v Speaker 2>than I would have said today that I thought they

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<v Speaker 2>would do. But it would put you, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>in no man's land because he got back to the tournament,

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<v Speaker 2>but he should have been better. It would be like

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<v Speaker 2>Sadderfield when he went when he went was it six

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<v Speaker 2>and six or seven and five? Yeah, when he went

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<v Speaker 2>seven and five and his last year, like yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that's not a fireable offense. But like he can't

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<v Speaker 2>you can't really fire him. He didn't, he wasn't terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, one thing I've talked about a few times this week,

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<v Speaker 1>because of course, with perdue being tomorrow, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people are saying, you know what, if you're ready to

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<v Speaker 1>pull the plug now, And not that Indiana would fire

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<v Speaker 1>him if this happened, but if they get ransacked by Purdue,

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<v Speaker 1>lose bout twenty or thirty points, I mean, that could

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<v Speaker 1>be the tipping point that just kind of says, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we know that we know that this is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to where we've known now for a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>But now that you're getting destroyed by your rival once again,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't we can't deal with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I mean honestly, uh, let's be real, Like

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<v Speaker 2>the volume goes up a lot of notches for those

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<v Speaker 2>that are already complaining about what's and if you have

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<v Speaker 2>a very demoralizing loss to your rival, I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>just it's different. Right, you can lose to Rutgers bout

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<v Speaker 2>twenty or Purdue by twenty. There's going to be different

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<v Speaker 2>emotions just because it's it's there's clearly it's a different

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<v Speaker 2>world when it comes to what you're you know how

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<v Speaker 2>your fans value those wins. So we shall see. But

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<v Speaker 2>again I still think just looking at the numbers and

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<v Speaker 2>what I've seen, like they've got I mean follows again

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<v Speaker 2>he said he's a walking double double like he's mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he's one of those guys that is giving you every

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<v Speaker 2>when you made him a very wealthy man through an il.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we'll get back to the phone lines in

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<v Speaker 2>just one second text line as well. However, I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned this just yet, and I should big news yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as the show came to an end. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't I believe expected. Maybe it was by some I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure. I'm not super connected, but Danny buspom Kelly

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<v Speaker 2>leaving Louisville to go to Nebraska because Nebraska's head coach

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<v Speaker 2>has finally finally retired. So you know, it's bittersweet. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>she had such a great run here, and I guess

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<v Speaker 2>there's really nothing good about it as far as the

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<v Speaker 2>sweet part of the bitter and sweet saying. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to be like I mean, not only is it

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<v Speaker 2>understanding that she would go back home and take over

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<v Speaker 2>that legendary program that is where she's from. She's made

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<v Speaker 2>it clear since she's been here that she would do this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like I don't even again. Volleyball still one

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<v Speaker 2>of those things that when I do talk about it

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<v Speaker 2>and acknowledge sort of what she's done by making this

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<v Speaker 2>fans interested in a way that like I would have

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<v Speaker 2>never expected, like perfect timing. We're volleyballs growing in popularity

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<v Speaker 2>because it's a great TV product. You can be such

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<v Speaker 2>a casual and easily understand it and be entertained by

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<v Speaker 2>it and Oh, by the way, if you're a Louisville fan,

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<v Speaker 2>your team's been pretty damn good. So it was the

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<v Speaker 2>perfect storm. She's been great. But you know, when she

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<v Speaker 2>was building this thing and they were locking her down

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<v Speaker 2>as best they could, I mean, she always was transparent

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<v Speaker 2>that this was going to happen, and here and here

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<v Speaker 2>it did happen. So you know, I would imagine that

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<v Speaker 2>she'll continue to be super successful wherever she goes and

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<v Speaker 2>as far as where the program is, you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the future. I mean, I know there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of folks that feel confident that that that her

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<v Speaker 2>successor her assistant coach whose name is escaping me right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I get it, like things are going well,

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<v Speaker 2>the ability to kind of keep it rolling and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of just keep this success continuing. But clearly she was.

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<v Speaker 2>She was awesome. But I really feel like knowing that

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<v Speaker 2>you're not starting all the way over right, you're just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of propping somebody up from your staff. Again, you

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<v Speaker 2>have no clue if it's gonna work out. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of pieces still around that that helped

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<v Speaker 2>make that thing successful. But yeah, shout out to Danny

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<v Speaker 2>Bus from Kelly. She made me a college volleyball viewer

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<v Speaker 2>and man a big time fan of her teams, not

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<v Speaker 2>only because you know, I'm always pulled for Louisville and anything,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's just all I know how to do. But

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<v Speaker 2>they were good and they were fun to watch, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would imagine that you know, she she probably you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's probably bittersweet for her because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she doesn't want to leave Louisville. I think she loves

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<v Speaker 2>it here. But you know, that's home to her, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's a great program. And congratulations to her. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go to the phone line. Five two five seven

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<v Speaker 2>seventy nine hundred is the number if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>jump in and give us a call. We'll get back

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<v Speaker 2>to the Ellen and Federal Credit Union text line as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's welcome in. Let's welcome in, Austin. Austin. You're

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<v Speaker 2>on Sports seven ninety. What's happening?

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<v Speaker 4>Hey? What's hard on?

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<v Speaker 3>Nick?

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<v Speaker 2>Not much? Brother?

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<v Speaker 4>The first off, yesterday my dad Aaron called in, and

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<v Speaker 4>so today I'm calling in. Okay, but uh, I'm the

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<v Speaker 4>first time. I'm the first time coming happy to have you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm twenty two years old and I've been a Kentucky

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<v Speaker 4>fan my whole life, but I really started getting invested

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<v Speaker 4>in that twenty eleven twenty twelve season. So cal was

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<v Speaker 4>the coach that I grew up watching. You asked if

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<v Speaker 4>Kentucky fans would hear boo here in that Arkansas game. Me, personally,

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<v Speaker 4>I would do if I were there, because he's the

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<v Speaker 4>opposing coach, uh and he left us for an SEC rival,

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<v Speaker 4>And it's as simple as that. I don't really get

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<v Speaker 4>the whole hype behind it.

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<v Speaker 2>Meaning my question, when you say you don't get the

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<v Speaker 2>whole hype, do you mean like you don't think it

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<v Speaker 2>should be as big of a storyline as others think

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<v Speaker 2>it should be. Yeah, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I know, I know that he's coming

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<v Speaker 4>back and everything, but like it, I feel like it

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<v Speaker 4>would be expected to get booed because you're an opposing coach.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean Rick Patino got booed, and he he

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<v Speaker 2>left on I mean he did go back to the rival,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's different. But I mean Rick was I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you weren't alive yet, but Rick was the rock star

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<v Speaker 2>in a way that I really have never seen anybody

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<v Speaker 2>else be at that time in Kentucky. But no, I

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<v Speaker 2>hear you. I mean, look, I think cheering the opposing coach,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it is a guy that you know you

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate his time, it's still it would be an awkward

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<v Speaker 2>thing for fans because you know, you want to win

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of who it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but my question to you, uh is if Saint

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<v Speaker 4>John's and Kentucky played, Let's say, I guess this year's tournament,

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<v Speaker 4>who are you cheering for? And I'll get off here

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<v Speaker 4>and listen and also shout out to my dad, Aaron.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Aaron and Austin. Thank you for the call. Austin.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it a family affair. Good to hear from

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<v Speaker 2>your dad yesterday, and appreciate you calling in today and

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<v Speaker 2>making your debut with us. Yeah, I mean I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have I would probably I'll put it this way. I

419
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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be cheering as far as like really like, oh

420
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<v Speaker 2>I hope that shot goes in. And now I'm not

421
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<v Speaker 2>by the way, when I say cheering, I'm not talking

422
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<v Speaker 2>about like I would be up shaking pom palms and

423
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<v Speaker 2>yelling at the TV. That's really only Louisville, and I

424
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<v Speaker 2>hadn't done it in a long time. Man, I'm doing

425
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<v Speaker 2>a lot this year with this team because they're so

426
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<v Speaker 2>fun to watch. So when it comes to like the

427
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<v Speaker 2>preferred outcome of that I would want it. I think

428
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<v Speaker 2>I would want it to be Rick, but man, it

429
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<v Speaker 2>would be tough. But I don't really have any I mean,

430
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<v Speaker 2>I take Rick for what it is, and we're gonna

431
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<v Speaker 2>play Rick Matino, by the way, because he talked earlier

432
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<v Speaker 2>today and was encouraging Kentucky fans to not boo Caliperi

433
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<v Speaker 2>when he comes back. Which Rick is really really good

434
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<v Speaker 2>at everything, really, but he's really really good at making

435
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<v Speaker 2>it about him and what really if you think about

436
00:19:54.359 --> 00:19:56.759
<v Speaker 2>it as an obvious thing, but he's he got you.

437
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<v Speaker 2>He's got you in the palm of his hands to

438
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<v Speaker 2>where you don't really realize it. He injected himself into whole,

439
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<v Speaker 2>into the Mark Pope higher like I'm sure Pope would

440
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<v Speaker 2>have shown him some love one of his guys like Rick, Like,

441
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<v Speaker 2>Rick's gonna make it about him, he always has, always will,

442
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<v Speaker 2>but he does it in a way to where I

443
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<v Speaker 2>don't think a lot of people realize it. And look,

444
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<v Speaker 2>he's somebody that will always be able to just say

445
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<v Speaker 2>things and that you know are nonsense or big exaggerations,

446
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<v Speaker 2>and he just tells his tales and we sit back

447
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<v Speaker 2>and listen. You know who else did that? John cal Perry,

448
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, but cal Perry of course fell off there

449
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<v Speaker 2>in a way that Rick didn't. But yeah, I would,

450
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<v Speaker 2>I would. I would probably prefer to see Saint John's

451
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<v Speaker 2>win that game, because again for me, even on Saturday

452
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<v Speaker 2>with Arkansas and Kenny being on Cal's staff, I just

453
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<v Speaker 2>don't know if they'll ever be a basketball game where

454
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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky's playing, And I am not hoping that they lose,

455
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<v Speaker 2>because it's just how it works in a rivalry. But

456
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. We'll learn on Saturday if I find

457
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<v Speaker 2>myself saying, you know, go Kats, I mean, and then

458
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<v Speaker 2>then then I, oh, one, I'll probably have my wife

459
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<v Speaker 2>take me to the emergency room to see what's wrong

460
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<v Speaker 2>with me. But you know, I'll know that that's how

461
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<v Speaker 2>That's how much I guess, maybe like Pope and Kentucky

462
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<v Speaker 2>or probably more than anything, just I still am always

463
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<v Speaker 2>gonna enjoy seeing caw lowse a quick break will come

464
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<v Speaker 2>back on the other side. We got to talk about

465
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<v Speaker 2>the piece of news that came out today in regards

466
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<v Speaker 2>to Terry Rozier is certainly not good if in fact

467
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<v Speaker 2>it is true, And we got a lot of other

468
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<v Speaker 2>stuff we need to get to. But I gotta quit

469
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<v Speaker 2>yap and get to break because we're up against it.

470
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<v Speaker 2>Here a little longer segment than usual, but that's okay,

471
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<v Speaker 2>it happens. It's coffee and company. Feel about Thorn's right

472
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<v Speaker 2>here on Sports Talk seven ninety two. Things I did

473
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<v Speaker 2>not expect to be real and of course be topics

474
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<v Speaker 2>to an extent on the show today, Terry Rozier is

475
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<v Speaker 2>apparently well. I shouldn't say that it's happened because we

476
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<v Speaker 2>don't know, but he is. He's being investigated by the

477
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<v Speaker 2>FBI for being connected to the same gambling ring that

478
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<v Speaker 2>probably gave us the wow. I mean, certainly in modern

479
00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:06.559
<v Speaker 2>history when it comes to athletes shaving points, getting caught

480
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<v Speaker 2>up in sports wagering, John say Porter, you know, betting

481
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<v Speaker 2>on his own games, shaving points quite literally, texting the

482
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<v Speaker 2>you know, the leaders of this group during games, like

483
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<v Speaker 2>at halftime about what he's going to do and what

484
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<v Speaker 2>they should do. I mean, that's why he's not only

485
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<v Speaker 2>being held accountable legally, but also he's banned for life

486
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<v Speaker 2>from the NBA. And I mean I mean that he

487
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<v Speaker 2>the NBA would never shut down, but I mean like

488
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<v Speaker 2>if it did be if there was the NBA's got

489
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<v Speaker 2>its own problems, but if there was ever a point

490
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<v Speaker 2>where quite literally nobody believed it was real like it.

491
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<v Speaker 2>You know, people were out here doing this and you

492
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<v Speaker 2>just every play you thought, Okay, well that guy's probably

493
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<v Speaker 2>in on it. I mean that sacrifices the livelihood of

494
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<v Speaker 2>everybody involved in the NBA. So you have to make

495
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<v Speaker 2>examples out of people. So what apparently has has led

496
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<v Speaker 2>to them looking into Rosier for quite some time is

497
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<v Speaker 2>that when they're going back and looking at the gambling

498
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<v Speaker 2>habits of those that were brought down in this this

499
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<v Speaker 2>big bust that they made months ago, those people who

500
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<v Speaker 2>bet heavily on what Porter were doing. Porter was doing

501
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<v Speaker 2>you know random to by the way, Johntay Porter's not

502
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can get odds for anybody, but John

503
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<v Speaker 2>Say Porter is somebody that you know, because of his

504
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<v Speaker 2>playing time. You know, if he had a an over set,

505
00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:20.680
<v Speaker 2>he could you know, he didn't play enough to where

506
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<v Speaker 2>he could have one bad player two bad plays here

507
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<v Speaker 2>and there that would that would make it to where

508
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<v Speaker 2>he understandably wouldn't meet certain lines that were met. So

509
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<v Speaker 2>you know, those same people that were betting heavily were

510
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<v Speaker 2>also betting heavily on on Rosier, and again that's that's

511
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<v Speaker 2>that's not good. So it says here this is from

512
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<v Speaker 2>Front Office Sports, that federal prosecutors have been investigating whether

513
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<v Speaker 2>Rosier manipulated his performances as part of an illegal sports

514
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<v Speaker 2>betting scheme. The ring accused of conspiring with John Say

515
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<v Speaker 2>Porter also bet heavily against Rosier in a twenty twenty

516
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<v Speaker 2>three game for the Hornets. So this has been going

517
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<v Speaker 2>on since you know, I mean I imagine, I mean

518
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<v Speaker 2>hadn't been going on recently because these guys this this

519
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<v Speaker 2>this illegal sports betting ring. I mean, they've they've been

520
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<v Speaker 2>taken down. But when they're looking at what they were

521
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<v Speaker 2>betting on, I'm curious, was it one or I mean,

522
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<v Speaker 2>I would imagine for to get to this point, it

523
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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be that there's just one game they made a

524
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<v Speaker 2>big wager. But if they see a pattern in a history,

525
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<v Speaker 2>it would give them the assumption that they are they

526
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<v Speaker 2>they had they either they are talking with Terry or

527
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<v Speaker 2>they know somebody that is. But Pat forty of Yahoo

528
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<v Speaker 2>just put up a piece. I'm sorry not yeahoo previously

529
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<v Speaker 2>ya who now Sports Illustrated. He put this up just

530
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<v Speaker 2>within the last few minutes and I haven't been able

531
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<v Speaker 2>to read it in its entirety, but yeah, it's just

532
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<v Speaker 2>it's mentioning the well. Yeah, in fact, I guess there's

533
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<v Speaker 2>a little more context here, more so I guess opinion

534
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<v Speaker 2>than anything. But Terry, if you remember, he did play

535
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<v Speaker 2>for the for the Charlotte Hornets for a little while

536
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<v Speaker 2>and that's when this was alleged to have been been happening.

537
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<v Speaker 2>That you know, they believe he was manipulating his own

538
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<v Speaker 2>stat line to help, you know, make money, which clearly

539
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<v Speaker 2>shaving points, that's what it is. But that Terry was

540
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<v Speaker 2>was a big was was complaining, fans were upset with him.

541
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<v Speaker 2>Fans thought he wasn't playing well and that maybe he

542
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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like, maybe he wasn't real obvious if he was,

543
00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:13.200
<v Speaker 2>in fact out they're shaving points because that led to

544
00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:17.559
<v Speaker 2>him getting traded to the Heat. So yeah, the Wall

545
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<v Speaker 2>Street Journey originally reported it. But I'm going to try

546
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<v Speaker 2>to read the rest of this this article from forty.

547
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<v Speaker 2>He usually has you know, some good info, good tidbits

548
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<v Speaker 2>in his his reporting, so I mean, I'm not sure

549
00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:32.960
<v Speaker 2>if there's more to it right now, but certainly something

550
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<v Speaker 2>to keep an eye on. Terry, one of the better

551
00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:38.720
<v Speaker 2>guards that's played here in my lifetime, didn't ever play

552
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<v Speaker 2>in a Final four, and really he only had I mean,

553
00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:45.519
<v Speaker 2>he played on that as a freshman, and certainly, you know,

554
00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:47.279
<v Speaker 2>you could tell he had talent, but he broke out

555
00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:49.400
<v Speaker 2>as a sophomore in a major way and obviously ended

556
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<v Speaker 2>up being a lottery pick and just a hell of

557
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<v Speaker 2>a player. Fan favorite. Good story, but this would be

558
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<v Speaker 2>awful and you know, one of those things that you

559
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<v Speaker 2>may find a way to not call the guy, you

560
00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:07.359
<v Speaker 2>know a bad guy. Maybe at the end of the day,

561
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<v Speaker 2>it was him trying to do something for somebody that

562
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<v Speaker 2>he cared. I mean, again not to say you can

563
00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:14.359
<v Speaker 2>justify it as if it was the right thing to do,

564
00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:16.680
<v Speaker 2>but you maybe learn about it and you don't feel

565
00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:20.799
<v Speaker 2>as if you know, he's still a terrible person. But

566
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<v Speaker 2>if anything, just really stupid, I mean, just I don't

567
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<v Speaker 2>understand how anybody in professional sports would would consider, even

568
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<v Speaker 2>for a millisecond the risk reward here. I mean, it's

569
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<v Speaker 2>one of the stupidest things you can do as an

570
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<v Speaker 2>athlete to ruin your career. I mean, it's a lot

571
00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:42.519
<v Speaker 2>of stupid things you could do, but I mean, this

572
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<v Speaker 2>is the money that you could make from betting. I

573
00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:48.799
<v Speaker 2>mean you could make that money. I mean, like, it's

574
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<v Speaker 2>just so stupid, and you also are stupid to probably

575
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<v Speaker 2>think that you can get away with it.

576
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<v Speaker 3>Now.

577
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Somebody brought this up on the text

578
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<v Speaker 2>line of a moment ago that there have been some some

579
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<v Speaker 2>college basketball insiders that that are now reacting to this

580
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:03.200
<v Speaker 2>story today and saying that there's belief that there's some

581
00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:05.519
<v Speaker 2>college players that have that have been involved in it

582
00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:08.720
<v Speaker 2>as well. There been, like you know, there's been Twitter

583
00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:10.680
<v Speaker 2>stuff out there about that, but I don't believe there's

584
00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:14.079
<v Speaker 2>ever been any legitimate reporting that they were investigating guys

585
00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:17.240
<v Speaker 2>who played college basketball, meaning like you know, high level

586
00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:20.200
<v Speaker 2>guys that you watch in big games. But I got

587
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<v Speaker 2>to say, if it does become something that we find

588
00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:24.720
<v Speaker 2>out is real and they're looking into it, I don't

589
00:27:24.759 --> 00:27:29.200
<v Speaker 2>know how surprised I'd be. But there is a random

590
00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:33.720
<v Speaker 2>tweet from nearly two years ago that has resurfaced, and

591
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:38.880
<v Speaker 2>it's just wild how Twitter can can can give us

592
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<v Speaker 2>this and maybe you think this is not even worth mentioning,

593
00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:46.200
<v Speaker 2>but there's a guy that is a sports better content

594
00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:49.960
<v Speaker 2>creator in that world. And back in let's see when

595
00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:53.799
<v Speaker 2>this was March of twenty twenty three. Here's what he tweeted,

596
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<v Speaker 2>is there any reason why there are zero Terry Rozier

597
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<v Speaker 2>props on any books or daily fantasy sports sites out tonight?

598
00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:03.559
<v Speaker 2>That I missed something very odd? Well, then he responded

599
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.559
<v Speaker 2>to it later that night his own tweet and said,

600
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<v Speaker 2>and now Roseer plays just nine minutes and then is

601
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<v Speaker 2>out the rest of the game? Question mark conspiracy theist

602
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:14.599
<v Speaker 2>are going to run with this one. So that was

603
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<v Speaker 2>tweeted out on March twenty third of twenty twenty three,

604
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<v Speaker 2>so roughly two years ago, a little bit underd two

605
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:22.839
<v Speaker 2>years ago. And I would imagine that they were looking

606
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:24.480
<v Speaker 2>at I mean, I'm sure he was taking off the

607
00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:28.480
<v Speaker 2>boards because they were at least looking in to see

608
00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:31.000
<v Speaker 2>if maybe he was in on it. And I don't

609
00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:33.640
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm curious about is you would think by

610
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:35.559
<v Speaker 2>now they'd be able to know if he is or isn't.

611
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<v Speaker 2>And today's report the news that broke from the Wall

612
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:40.839
<v Speaker 2>Street Journal. I mean it really, it just says that

613
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<v Speaker 2>they are looking, that they're investigating it, and it's because

614
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:46.400
<v Speaker 2>of this, meaning the same people that were trying to

615
00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:50.079
<v Speaker 2>make money off of the Johntay Porter stuff, they were

616
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:53.799
<v Speaker 2>also doing the same thing with Terry. So you know,

617
00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:57.759
<v Speaker 2>he's not been found guilty yet, but certainly not a

618
00:28:57.759 --> 00:29:00.240
<v Speaker 2>good look. Another story really quickly that has the same

619
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:03.839
<v Speaker 2>element to it, where something comes out and you can

620
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:06.559
<v Speaker 2>go back in Twitter years ago and see that, Okay,

621
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:08.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe there were some signs, maybe some things you see

622
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:10.160
<v Speaker 2>on Twitter that you now just assume there's no way

623
00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:12.599
<v Speaker 2>that can be true. Maybe you then realize that you

624
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:17.359
<v Speaker 2>know it is true. But Justin Tucker again I meant

625
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:20.000
<v Speaker 2>to mention this earlier, but Rosier being involved in a

626
00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:24.799
<v Speaker 2>gambling ring. That's not something I expected to ever talk about. Also,

627
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Justin Tucker, the kicker for the Ravens, being a guy

628
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<v Speaker 2>who's been banned from massage parlors in Baltimore because he's

629
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I guess, pretty upfront about what he wants. He doesn't

630
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:37.400
<v Speaker 2>just want his back rubbed, if you know what I'm saying.

631
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<v Speaker 2>He wants to tug as well. Not something you'd ever expect,

632
00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:43.839
<v Speaker 2>but here we are. And then I mean, this is

633
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<v Speaker 2>I swear to you, this is absolutely this is absolutely

634
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<v Speaker 2>one of those one of those things that you would

635
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<v Speaker 2>see and just assume, well, that's random. There's no way

636
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<v Speaker 2>that's true. And by the way that that's the news

637
00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:59.799
<v Speaker 2>is that he has been the newsbrook earlier that he

638
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:03.039
<v Speaker 2>there's been he's been accused of inappropriate behavior by six

639
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:08.480
<v Speaker 2>different Baltimore area massage therapists and the investigation is being

640
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:11.480
<v Speaker 2>done by the Baltimore Banner. And you know it's now

641
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:13.960
<v Speaker 2>out there that they're looking into it. Well, sure enough,

642
00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:16.720
<v Speaker 2>you go back to twenty twenty one, four years ago,

643
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:21.119
<v Speaker 2>somebody's tweeted out Justin Tucker is canceled. But it's not

644
00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:24.200
<v Speaker 2>my place to provide the reason. Let's just say he's

645
00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:26.640
<v Speaker 2>been told by many massage places to never come back.

646
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:30.279
<v Speaker 2>So that comes out again November of twenty twenty one. Well,

647
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:32.640
<v Speaker 2>then somebody's been able to dig up a couple of

648
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:35.839
<v Speaker 2>more tweets that came out. These are from also around

649
00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:38.440
<v Speaker 2>the same time. Justin Tucker must not have received his

650
00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:41.480
<v Speaker 2>happy ending that he forced the masseuse to give him

651
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:44.079
<v Speaker 2>this week, probably because he's banned from every spaw in Baltimore.

652
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Another one fun fact, Justin Tucker does something prematurely and

653
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:52.319
<v Speaker 2>it's banned from multiple salons in Baltimore. I couldn't say

654
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:54.000
<v Speaker 2>the word, or I probably could, but I didn't want to.

655
00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:55.559
<v Speaker 2>But I think you know what I'm getting at. So,

656
00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:01.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, both are probably saying their innocence. So I

657
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:03.680
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't just assume that this proves that it's real. But

658
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:06.000
<v Speaker 2>there were, Like I mean, all the Rozier thing does

659
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:07.599
<v Speaker 2>is confirm that they were looking into it. If they

660
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:09.400
<v Speaker 2>were taking him off of me, somebody played a lot

661
00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:10.680
<v Speaker 2>of minutes, had a big role, and if you weren't

662
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:12.920
<v Speaker 2>allowed to do any get any action on him as

663
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:16.240
<v Speaker 2>far as sports books or the daily fantasy stuff, then

664
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:18.359
<v Speaker 2>that's that is highly unusual. And now we know why.

665
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Now will they be able to prove that he did

666
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:22.720
<v Speaker 2>have involvement or will we find out that he did.

667
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:24.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, same thing with Justin Tucker. I mean,

668
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:27.519
<v Speaker 2>these are just accusations. But you know the fact that

669
00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:30.920
<v Speaker 2>it came out from Rando's just in Baltimore that maybe

670
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.799
<v Speaker 2>knew one of these massuses, I mean kind of makes

671
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:37.559
<v Speaker 2>it seem like something did happen. I don't know, is

672
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:39.880
<v Speaker 2>that a thing massuses? That doesn't sound like.

673
00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:42.000
<v Speaker 3>It sounds like a fake word. But I think you're correct.

674
00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:45.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you know, I'm sure I'm not correct, but yeah,

675
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:47.559
<v Speaker 2>it just sounded weird. It's one of those things. I

676
00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:49.079
<v Speaker 2>said this the other day on the show John. There's

677
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:51.440
<v Speaker 2>a guy that plays for Duke and his name is

678
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:56.279
<v Speaker 2>Khan Canipple, and that is how you say his name.

679
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:59.279
<v Speaker 2>But I've never heard anybody say it and not sound

680
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:01.519
<v Speaker 2>as if they're they know they're saying it wrong, Like

681
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:03.759
<v Speaker 2>there's no way that's somebody's name. Kan k Nipple.

682
00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:04.400
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah it is.

683
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:07.279
<v Speaker 2>So when I say messuses, I just feel like I

684
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:11.160
<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm I'm making up a word. But anyways,

685
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:12.680
<v Speaker 2>we got to get to a break, quick, quick break.

686
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:14.720
<v Speaker 2>We'll come back on the other side. Keep this thing

687
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:19.640
<v Speaker 2>rolling along. I really enjoyed seeing all these quotes from

688
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:23.759
<v Speaker 2>anonymous coaches that Jeff Borzello ESPN included in an article.

689
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:26.319
<v Speaker 2>All these coaches talking about Pat Kelsey and Louisville and

690
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:28.440
<v Speaker 2>what this team's been able to do. And it probably

691
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:31.000
<v Speaker 2>doesn't surprise you they're saying the exact same things we

692
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:33.279
<v Speaker 2>are so we can discuss that, and we'll let you

693
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:38.359
<v Speaker 2>hear Patino tell UK fans to not boot Caliperry. I'll

694
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:42.720
<v Speaker 2>do that. So any of the Louisville fans that have

695
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:45.039
<v Speaker 2>texted in today answering the question that I put out there,

696
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:49.000
<v Speaker 2>You're probably not gonna be too high too low about anything.

697
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.720
<v Speaker 2>But if you can pick the outcome, what are you picking?

698
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:54.920
<v Speaker 2>And you can't say, of course both lose. Do you

699
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:57.440
<v Speaker 2>want Kenny Payne and Caliperi to come into Lexington And

700
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:00.799
<v Speaker 2>and really, I mean that's another thing for me. I

701
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:02.200
<v Speaker 2>was going to say, put a big stain on their

702
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:04.519
<v Speaker 2>special season. It really wouldn't do that, And that's one

703
00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:06.359
<v Speaker 2>of those things that just makes sports great. A loss

704
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:09.640
<v Speaker 2>here would only I mean, it wouldn't be good for

705
00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:12.279
<v Speaker 2>your resume, but it wouldn't knocked out of the tournament.

706
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:15.720
<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't change the ceiling people think you have. It

707
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:18.000
<v Speaker 2>would be looked at as a fluke loss for Kentucky

708
00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:20.640
<v Speaker 2>because Cali Perry showed back up and his team was

709
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:22.680
<v Speaker 2>ready to play and they got too tight. But like,

710
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:24.640
<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't really change much for you. But yet it

711
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:28.400
<v Speaker 2>also I know there's fans that would maybe take two

712
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:30.559
<v Speaker 2>losses to other teams before they take this one, just

713
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:33.119
<v Speaker 2>because of the emotion that comes with it. And that's

714
00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:36.279
<v Speaker 2>what makes sports great, is like rivalries. And this is

715
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:39.680
<v Speaker 2>a weird way to frame the Cal Kentucky situation because

716
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:43.759
<v Speaker 2>it's not a rivalry, but you know, it's there's He's

717
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:46.799
<v Speaker 2>not just any other coach either. It's kind of like

718
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:50.039
<v Speaker 2>when LOUISLL and Kentucky played each other in both football

719
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:53.160
<v Speaker 2>and basketball. More often than not. There are some exceptions,

720
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:57.200
<v Speaker 2>but more often than not, it's really just about bragging

721
00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:00.279
<v Speaker 2>rights for fans. But yet it means so much to you.

722
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:02.160
<v Speaker 2>It's a higher high when you win, and it's a

723
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:04.759
<v Speaker 2>lower low when you lose. So but again, anyways, the

724
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:08.480
<v Speaker 2>LOUISLL fans that have answered have all said that they

725
00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:11.199
<v Speaker 2>don't see themselves in in any way rooting for Kentucky.

726
00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:14.719
<v Speaker 2>So you know, somebody just wrote woo pig suuy, so

727
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:18.039
<v Speaker 2>I guess that tells me that they're pulling for for Arkansas.

728
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:21.719
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's talk about the lot of men's clinic fellas.

729
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:23.360
<v Speaker 2>I know there's a lot of you out there that

730
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:29.760
<v Speaker 2>feel like any acknowledgment about maybe a rectilis function or

731
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:33.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe about potentially having low testosterone. You just, you know,

732
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:35.760
<v Speaker 2>you block it out of your mind as soon as

733
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:38.199
<v Speaker 2>it maybe comes up in your mind because you think

734
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:40.679
<v Speaker 2>it's weak and there's no way. You're a man, you're tough,

735
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:43.320
<v Speaker 2>and I get it, Like I understand how that works,

736
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:46.800
<v Speaker 2>But have you ever considered that, you know, it's also

737
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:50.320
<v Speaker 2>just kind of taking care of yourself being healthier. I mean,

738
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:53.920
<v Speaker 2>for me, I didn't really know what low testosterone meant.

739
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:55.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know what testosterone is, but when I

740
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:59.800
<v Speaker 2>would hear of low T and low testosterone, I wouldn't necessary.

741
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.199
<v Speaker 2>I just kind of put it in the same boat

742
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:04.679
<v Speaker 2>as like a rectiltis function, and it's not the same.

743
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a totally different thing. So, you know,

744
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:12.320
<v Speaker 2>just uninformed, ignorant to it all. For many years, I

745
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:14.920
<v Speaker 2>just assumed it was older people and you get older

746
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:17.559
<v Speaker 2>and you no longer produced testosterone, which of course that

747
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:20.559
<v Speaker 2>can happen. That's normal, but it's also very normal in

748
00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:23.119
<v Speaker 2>people that aren't in their forties or fifties. You could

749
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:25.159
<v Speaker 2>be in your late twenties. I mean, heck, for a

750
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:27.239
<v Speaker 2>variety of reasons, you can have low testosterone even when

751
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:30.079
<v Speaker 2>you're a young A young stallion you know, just just

752
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:32.480
<v Speaker 2>depends on your situation. But for me, I felt like

753
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:35.639
<v Speaker 2>I lost my edge. I no longer was able to

754
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:37.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of put in the same work in the in

755
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:39.880
<v Speaker 2>the in the gym that I that I that I

756
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:43.920
<v Speaker 2>used to, and I stopped seeing even like results that

757
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:49.159
<v Speaker 2>I was used to getting from the workouts. I was lethargic. Really,

758
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:50.960
<v Speaker 2>I just kind of lost my edge.

759
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:51.159
<v Speaker 4>Right.

760
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I developed some some real pudge that just didn't seem

761
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:57.480
<v Speaker 2>to make a lot of sense, right, excess belly fat,

762
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:00.599
<v Speaker 2>maybe some mooves, and I'm just thinking, this doesn't make sense.

763
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Maybe there's something wrong with me. And initially I just

764
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:05.159
<v Speaker 2>thought that it could be something, you know, maybe it's

765
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:09.840
<v Speaker 2>something something about, you know, my my thyroid or something,

766
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:11.559
<v Speaker 2>because I know people whove had thyroid issues that have

767
00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:13.039
<v Speaker 2>caused that kind of stuff. And then after a while,

768
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:15.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you know what, like all these symptoms they're

769
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:18.559
<v Speaker 2>talking about, even like my mental health, like maybe I

770
00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:21.239
<v Speaker 2>have low tea. So I decided to go reach out

771
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:22.960
<v Speaker 2>to our partners Lovell Men's Clinic, and I got to

772
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:25.280
<v Speaker 2>go meet doctor Wood, and he educated me on a

773
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:27.920
<v Speaker 2>lot of things and really explained sort of how common

774
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:29.920
<v Speaker 2>it can be and how if you go to your

775
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:31.960
<v Speaker 2>doctor and they check your levels, they're not going to

776
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:34.280
<v Speaker 2>be alarmed by it, because it's not like it's a

777
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:38.239
<v Speaker 2>gigantic health risk to have low TEE for your age,

778
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:41.840
<v Speaker 2>but your testosterone should be at in a certain range

779
00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:45.159
<v Speaker 2>depending upon your age range. And that's something that you know,

780
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:47.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people don't know. So they check my levels,

781
00:36:48.039 --> 00:36:51.000
<v Speaker 2>and mine were not at all where someone my age

782
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:53.599
<v Speaker 2>should be. In fact, they were, I mean they were

783
00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:55.440
<v Speaker 2>at a level of somebody old enough to be my

784
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:58.480
<v Speaker 2>dad or older than my dad. And that wasn't great

785
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:01.639
<v Speaker 2>to hear, but it kind of also was because it explained, Okay,

786
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:04.360
<v Speaker 2>that's why these things have been happening for really the

787
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:06.840
<v Speaker 2>last year and a half. So sure enough, I started

788
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:10.119
<v Speaker 2>taking testosterone treatment and I've been doing it for over

789
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:12.880
<v Speaker 2>a year now, and I mean just I mean, it's

790
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:14.920
<v Speaker 2>not like I've changed a whole lot about my lifestyle,

791
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:17.960
<v Speaker 2>but having my levels where they need to be, it's just,

792
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:21.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, everything in life's been better, sleeping better, better workouts.

793
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:26.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's something that I wish I would

794
00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:29.119
<v Speaker 2>have looked into a lot earlier, but better late than ever.

795
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:31.599
<v Speaker 2>And I know there's some people listening right now that

796
00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:34.599
<v Speaker 2>are probably like thinking the same thing, like, well, you know,

797
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't know if I have the same

798
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:38.679
<v Speaker 2>edge anymore. Maybe my you know, maybe my sex drive

799
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:41.239
<v Speaker 2>is not where it should be. Maybe maybe I'm getting

800
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:43.880
<v Speaker 2>man boobs and I don't know why because I'm not

801
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:46.599
<v Speaker 2>changing anything about my diet and I'm still exercising. It

802
00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:48.960
<v Speaker 2>could be low t So give them a call over

803
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:51.559
<v Speaker 2>at the louis Men's Clinic favebo two four four four

804
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:54.480
<v Speaker 2>four thousand. Check them out online at Louisville Men's Clinic

805
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:57.679
<v Speaker 2>dot com. All right, let's uh, let's do this. Let's

806
00:37:57.679 --> 00:37:59.960
<v Speaker 2>take a break. We'll come back and finish strong here

807
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:01.480
<v Speaker 2>on the five o'clock the hour. We got one more

808
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.000
<v Speaker 2>hour left, and we'll certainly make the most of it.

809
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:07.400
<v Speaker 2>We'll get back into the basketball conversation. And I mentioned

810
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:10.960
<v Speaker 2>this earlier, but ESPN's Jeff Borzell will put together an

811
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:13.599
<v Speaker 2>article and it has a lot of quotes from ACC

812
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:16.480
<v Speaker 2>coaches who just opposing coaches that have played Louisville this year.

813
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:19.480
<v Speaker 2>And I just can't get enough of hearing people rave

814
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:21.599
<v Speaker 2>about this team and how special of a season it's

815
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:24.280
<v Speaker 2>been so far, and how we're healing, and you know,

816
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:26.559
<v Speaker 2>it seems like we're getting we're getting. If we're not back,

817
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:29.039
<v Speaker 2>we're getting there. And it's it's been fun. So stick

818
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:31.000
<v Speaker 2>around one hour left right here on Sports Talk seven

819
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<v Speaker 2>ninety