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Speaker 2: So one thing that I did not mention when discussing
Speaker 2: the ESPN decision to opt in for the back half
Speaker 2: of the ACC ESPN grant of rights deal. So yeah,
Speaker 2: they had until February first to pick up the option
Speaker 2: on their twenty year contract that it was signed in
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. For some reason, I was thinking it was
Speaker 2: a little bit before that, but I do forget Louisville
Speaker 2: was in the ACC before the network actually launched some reason.
Speaker 2: It just seems like it was kind of all at
Speaker 2: the same time. But anyways, not only are they going
Speaker 2: to start giving revenue, you know, more revenue to those
Speaker 2: that actually are doing things to bring the league revenue,
Speaker 2: right like you get what you get what you earn,
Speaker 2: which I really do believe, you're going to see other
Speaker 2: conferences the next time they're up to discuss a new
Speaker 2: deal or extend their deal, whatever it may be. They're
Speaker 2: gonna the big dogs are gonna are gonna want more.
Speaker 2: And I always could have done that, but think about it, now,
Speaker 2: you got to even if you are a program that
Speaker 2: that knows you got a lot of money coming your
Speaker 2: way more so than others. You have to keep in
Speaker 2: mind that you now have an annual twenty million dollar
Speaker 2: bill that never existed before. That's just a humongous expense
Speaker 2: for for everybody for the most part, clearly a bigger
Speaker 2: one for schools that don't produce a lot of the
Speaker 2: big revenue. So if you know, heck you could you
Speaker 2: could be a top producer in your conference. And if
Speaker 2: and if they have a stipulation that you're going to
Speaker 2: get a bigger chunk, if you are a factor in
Speaker 2: the earnings, it could make it to where that annual
Speaker 2: twenty million dollars is nothing. Right, you don't even have
Speaker 2: to worry about that added expense that didn't used to
Speaker 2: be there. So I mean that that, to me is
Speaker 2: is something that makes a lot of sense. But what
Speaker 2: I did not mention is that noted aim is also
Speaker 2: going to be a part of the I guess the
Speaker 2: rest of this contract. As far as they're they have
Speaker 2: a very weird deal right like they're they absolutely have
Speaker 2: bullied the ACC for years now, and I know the
Speaker 2: ACC not putting their feet to the fire and telling
Speaker 2: Notre Dame you're not going to have a season in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty if you don't join our conference. But just
Speaker 2: letting them join it for a year only such a
Speaker 2: weak move by Swafford, But you know, or Phil I'm
Speaker 2: not even sure if it was swafordor Phillips who did it,
Speaker 2: but either way, I think I think it was think
Speaker 2: of Swafford because that's that was, you know, one of
Speaker 2: the many things he did on his way out that
Speaker 2: I think put the league in a terrible spot. And
Speaker 2: like people within the ACC, you know, the the Ogs,
Speaker 2: the Carolina schools, like they feel like they're they're going
Speaker 2: to instantly drop dead if they say something bad about Swafford,
Speaker 2: which is just odd to me. But anyways, Notre Dame
Speaker 2: is in the league, but not right and again they
Speaker 2: they we talked about this as during the lead up
Speaker 2: to the National Championship, like Notre Dame, they are different
Speaker 2: in a maze. They're different than anybody in college football
Speaker 2: and they know it. Nobody else could do what they
Speaker 2: do and they know it. So it was weird that
Speaker 2: they kind of had this rudy feel to them because
Speaker 2: you know, everybody's been doubting them because they lost in
Speaker 2: Northern Illinois, and everybody's been, you know, saying they're gonna
Speaker 2: get blown out because you know they're not any good,
Speaker 2: and sure enough, they ended up proving a lot of
Speaker 2: people wrong. They were really good team this year, and
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be really good with Marcus for
Speaker 2: even moving forward. So you know, the conversation at the
Speaker 2: time was like, look, they they're a team that I
Speaker 2: still feel like the majority of people will root against
Speaker 2: them if they're not fans and they're I wouldn't call
Speaker 2: them like a villain, but you know, you either like
Speaker 2: them or you don't like them, or maybe you hate them,
Speaker 2: so you know, they Let's put it this way, the ACC,
Speaker 2: who already has a tough time with the league having
Speaker 2: marquee games that that give real value as far as
Speaker 2: resumes to make the twelve team playoff. If Notre Dames said,
Speaker 2: or if the ACC said, no, you're in or you're out,
Speaker 2: you know what they would do. They would be out
Speaker 2: and they would go schedule their own They would they
Speaker 2: would do their own thing, and the league would be
Speaker 2: in a worse spot because you actually need the Notre
Speaker 2: Dame games on your schedule, even though they're not a
Speaker 2: full league member. But you know they get to play
Speaker 2: what four or five games depending on I think it's
Speaker 2: every other year, So you need them and they are
Speaker 2: willing to not you know, they're they're willing to play
Speaker 2: ball as well, which again I'm here I am thinking like, well,
Speaker 2: do they have a say soul, I guess they do
Speaker 2: because again they can kind of do what they want.
Speaker 2: They get to benefit it from us whenever they want,
Speaker 2: and you know, they don't have to join the league,
Speaker 2: but they It sounds like the league is going to
Speaker 2: be pretty strategic in giving Clemson, Florida State, Miami, Carolina, Louisville,
Speaker 2: even those kind of schools more of a more of
Speaker 2: more opportunities to go up against Notre Dame because you clearly,
Speaker 2: you know Notre Dame having I don't know, Boston College
Speaker 2: on the schedule or you know, Pittsburgh on the schedule.
Speaker 2: I mean that those are probably gonna be games. You know,
Speaker 2: Notre Dame is gonna win and Notre Dame, let's be real,
Speaker 2: because of them not having a conference they need to
Speaker 2: get I mean, they don't have they can't go win
Speaker 2: a league and get in, right, So like they they're
Speaker 2: gonna they're gonna benefit from this two meeting. If they've
Speaker 2: got every every year they're playing one of the ACC
Speaker 2: or maybe two of the ACC's best teams, you know,
Speaker 2: it could mean that they lose those games. But also
Speaker 2: they're gonna they're gonna need that, right because they're games
Speaker 2: that they play against teams every year, like Navy. I
Speaker 2: mean that that's not it. That's it's not a resume game.
Speaker 2: Their game every year against USC. I guess it really
Speaker 2: just depends. Didn't they played USC this year? Didn't they
Speaker 2: think they did at the very end. Yeah, And then
Speaker 2: who's their other rival? I feel like they have another
Speaker 2: rival that they play every year Notre Dame does is
Speaker 2: it Michigan?
Speaker 1: Maybe that one's been on and off, and weirdly enough,
Speaker 1: Purdue is also been okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So again they could have a down year on
Speaker 2: their schedule like they did this year. If you remember,
Speaker 2: that was a big that was a big part of
Speaker 2: the conversation about Notre Dame this year. They looked like
Speaker 2: they had a more manageable schedule than ever, and they
Speaker 2: slipped up and lost NIU early, and you know, looked
Speaker 2: like they were going to be screwed, and sure enough,
Speaker 2: they made it all the way to the National Championship Game.
Speaker 2: So again, it's good news for the ACC overall. I
Speaker 2: think that any belief that the league may actually dissolve
Speaker 2: before twenty thirty six, I think today's news confirms that
Speaker 2: won't happen. And nobody's going to be leaving because they can't.
Speaker 2: And I think if you are a if you're a
Speaker 2: Clemson and you're worried about having such a gap between
Speaker 2: you and South Carolina with revenue, if you're Florida State
Speaker 2: and you cannot believe that, you know, Florida is getting
Speaker 2: way that much more than you now, and even little
Speaker 2: old Central Florida in the Big Twelve, although they're not
Speaker 2: they're not getting what Florida's getting, they're getting close to
Speaker 2: what you're getting. Like that, that kind of stuff matters
Speaker 2: to people. But now if you are a big revenue producer,
Speaker 2: you're gonna get way more and it'll probably, I mean
Speaker 2: certainly it's going to close the gap with the you know,
Speaker 2: because that's the thing when when you're peers in other
Speaker 2: conferences that you do kind of compare yourself to understandably
Speaker 2: your fans do. That's that's why that stuff matters. So
Speaker 2: you know, to be able to close that gap by
Speaker 2: bringing viewership and you know, having success. It won't be
Speaker 2: I mean, heck, I don't. Maybe maybe it'll actually close
Speaker 2: the gap more so than I'm expecting. But again, good
Speaker 2: news for the ACC. All right, it's coffee and company.
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Speaker 2: you if you thought, hey, I recognize that voice, not
Speaker 2: mine the other and it's it's it's him, folks, He's
Speaker 2: back the company man, mister John Alden has made his
Speaker 2: way back here with us for the afternoon, filling in
Speaker 2: for Austin who's out and he's been up since what
Speaker 2: three o'clock in the morning. That's right, I mean, goodness, gracious,
Speaker 2: are you running on fumes?
Speaker 3: I'm actually feeling pretty good.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, you see, you seem like you,
Speaker 2: you know, like this is like you didn't get up
Speaker 2: in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1: This is usually the time of day when I'm taking
Speaker 1: my mid afternoon nap.
Speaker 2: Though how or how I cannot see you being a
Speaker 2: nap guy. But again, okay, I was gonna say, because
Speaker 2: you kind of have to be. But also, am I
Speaker 2: right in the assumption that if it wouldn't have been
Speaker 2: for this current schedule with with your gig, Like I
Speaker 2: just can't see you ever being like I'm gonna take
Speaker 2: a nap, like it's right and there seems so not you,
Speaker 2: which I mean that as a compliment. Naps can be great,
Speaker 2: but like you know, it's not productive by any means.
Speaker 3: That's the thing.
Speaker 1: There are days when I nap longer than I want to,
Speaker 1: and at that point it makes me feel like I've
Speaker 1: wasted the rest of my day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even though it's yeah, even though you know
Speaker 2: it's part of like what is very much much normal
Speaker 2: and really needed because of the of the schedule, I
Speaker 2: just that's the one for naps. I mean, I feel worse,
Speaker 2: like I feel groggy and just like you know, I'm
Speaker 2: always grumpy after a nap, and I feel like you're
Speaker 2: not sick, but just kind of like man like I
Speaker 2: don't know, lethargic, I suppose, And I just feel bad
Speaker 2: mentally because I'm like I didn't need that nap. I
Speaker 2: could have got something done, even if it would have
Speaker 2: been spending three hours on TikTok. You know, maybe maybe
Speaker 2: that was good for brain activity. Maybe it was actually
Speaker 2: sleep may actually be better at that point. But anyways,
Speaker 2: I haven't even got to the Indiana Hoosiers just yet.
Speaker 2: And and trust me, I'm not going to have you.
Speaker 2: I know you probably don't want to talk about them
Speaker 2: a whole lot. But is it safe to say that,
Speaker 2: regardless of what happens the rest of the way, meaning
Speaker 2: like tournament or not, I mean, Woodson, he had a
Speaker 2: team that shouldn't be in this position, and I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're going to fire them, And
Speaker 2: that's not what I'm asking you to answer, But no
Speaker 2: doubt like that. Our conversations during the summer, during the
Speaker 2: offseason were pretty consistent that one thing that was beneficial
Speaker 2: for Indiana fans, not only with him going out and
Speaker 2: building a really good roster, was that you're going to know,
Speaker 2: right like, if he's in this position, the one that
Speaker 2: he's in now, it's a problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it is interesting. They play Purdue tomorrow, of course,
Speaker 1: the biggest rival, and he has had not recently. He
Speaker 1: did have produced number for a little while in the
Speaker 1: early going part of his tenure. I do think a
Speaker 1: win on the road in Machi Arena can at least
Speaker 1: buy him some additional grace if that makes sense for
Speaker 1: maybe the next couple of weeks, and they do have
Speaker 1: a decent stretch coming up where if they're able to
Speaker 1: win some games, especially on the road that they're not
Speaker 1: supposed to, maybe you can kind of turn things around.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm kind of I'm pretty
Speaker 1: much squarely in the boat knowing that this is not
Speaker 1: going to work out, even though there are some chances
Speaker 1: to turn some things around. But yeah, that's kind of
Speaker 1: where things are out. We knew that with the roster
Speaker 1: put together, if you didn't put the results together, like
Speaker 1: the wins and that sort of thing, you knew that
Speaker 1: the ship would kind of sail with Mike Woodson.
Speaker 2: Well, And I think I'd be a real phony to
Speaker 2: act as if I watch it close enough to know
Speaker 2: that like he's terrible at this or at that. But
Speaker 2: I just I think it's just hard to to to
Speaker 2: look at Indiana being where they are and not assume that,
Speaker 2: like the coaching is just not I mean, even if
Speaker 2: it's not because he's drawn up bad sets or whatever,
Speaker 2: it's just not working right, Like he's not he's not
Speaker 2: getting what you need to get out of a team.
Speaker 2: Because I still stand by what I said Indiana has
Speaker 2: good players. They do, even even maybe you know, some
Speaker 2: of the guards that transferred in aren't necessarily you know,
Speaker 2: as good.
Speaker 3: Don't like he utilized it correctly.
Speaker 2: And again that I just I feel like it's not
Speaker 2: to say he's done something crazy, but you kind of
Speaker 2: mean you kind of yeah, he's he's he's the factor,
Speaker 2: And why they're not good doesn't mean he's a terrible coach,
Speaker 2: but like they should be better, and I feel like
Speaker 2: if they're coached by somebody else, I think they'd maybe
Speaker 2: be substantially better. We'll never know. Maybe that's unfair to say,
Speaker 2: but like, I don't want to act like he's the
Speaker 2: worst coach ever because I don't believe that. But I mean, well, I'll.
Speaker 3: Say this real quick too.
Speaker 1: There's been a number of losses, not the most recent losses,
Speaker 1: but the first five of the season. We're all blowouts,
Speaker 1: of course, including when when Louisville took him to the
Speaker 1: woodshed in the Battle for.
Speaker 3: Atlantis, and in those games.
Speaker 1: You've said this before too, Nick, those teams kind of
Speaker 1: look like Kenny Payne unprepared type teams. Oh that's that's
Speaker 1: not a recipe for success in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 2: I feel like at times when Indiana does play well
Speaker 2: and they end up getting a win, or maybe they
Speaker 2: compete more so than you expect. I mean, I just
Speaker 2: think it's because they have Like I mean, Malik renew
Speaker 2: is a good player. I mean, bollow is Actually his
Speaker 2: numbers are phenomenal. He's lazy beating double double. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: like he's he's he's talented. Which of the which of
Speaker 2: the two guards has ended up actually being pretty good?
Speaker 1: Miles Rice has been good? Yeah, Canaan carlysle he's he's
Speaker 1: been relegated to a bench roll. Yeah, there's there's games
Speaker 1: where he comes off. It comes off the bench, doesn't
Speaker 1: do anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember Rice is somebody that didn't play well
Speaker 2: early on, but then since then, like he's kind of
Speaker 2: gotten more comfortable, and like I just they should be better.
Speaker 2: And the big ten's not scary good at all, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like it it just isn't so
Speaker 2: I you know, we'll see again. There's still a bubble team.
Speaker 2: I think I saw ANARTI has them as one of
Speaker 2: the last four out, so they'll have opportunities. But I
Speaker 2: think even that like he kind of reminds if he
Speaker 2: makes the tournament and they lose in the round of
Speaker 2: sixty four in a close game to like a to
Speaker 2: like a non seed and they're an eight seed or
Speaker 2: whatever it is. That would be at that point better
Speaker 2: than I would have said today that I thought they
Speaker 2: would do. But it would put you, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: in no man's land because he got back to the tournament,
Speaker 2: but he should have been better. It would be like
Speaker 2: Sadderfield when he went when he went was it six
Speaker 2: and six or seven and five? Yeah, when he went
Speaker 2: seven and five and his last year, like yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean that's not a fireable offense. But like he can't
Speaker 2: you can't really fire him. He didn't, he wasn't terrible.
Speaker 1: Well, one thing I've talked about a few times this week,
Speaker 1: because of course, with perdue being tomorrow, a lot of
Speaker 1: people are saying, you know what, if you're ready to
Speaker 1: pull the plug now, And not that Indiana would fire
Speaker 1: him if this happened, but if they get ransacked by Purdue,
Speaker 1: lose bout twenty or thirty points, I mean, that could
Speaker 1: be the tipping point that just kind of says, Okay,
Speaker 1: we know that we know that this is not going
Speaker 1: to where we've known now for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: But now that you're getting destroyed by your rival once again,
Speaker 1: we can't we can't deal with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean honestly, uh, let's be real, Like
Speaker 2: the volume goes up a lot of notches for those
Speaker 2: that are already complaining about what's and if you have
Speaker 2: a very demoralizing loss to your rival, I mean, it
Speaker 2: just it's different. Right, you can lose to Rutgers bout
Speaker 2: twenty or Purdue by twenty. There's going to be different
Speaker 2: emotions just because it's it's there's clearly it's a different
Speaker 2: world when it comes to what you're you know how
Speaker 2: your fans value those wins. So we shall see. But
Speaker 2: again I still think just looking at the numbers and
Speaker 2: what I've seen, like they've got I mean follows again
Speaker 2: he said he's a walking double double like he's mean,
Speaker 2: he's one of those guys that is giving you every
Speaker 2: bit on the stat sheet that you hope to get
Speaker 2: when you made him a very wealthy man through an il.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll get back to the phone lines in
Speaker 2: just one second text line as well. However, I haven't
Speaker 2: mentioned this just yet, and I should big news yesterday
Speaker 2: as soon as the show came to an end. It
Speaker 2: wasn't I believe expected. Maybe it was by some I'm
Speaker 2: not sure. I'm not super connected, but Danny buspom Kelly
Speaker 2: leaving Louisville to go to Nebraska because Nebraska's head coach
Speaker 2: has finally finally retired. So you know, it's bittersweet. You know,
Speaker 2: she had such a great run here, and I guess
Speaker 2: there's really nothing good about it as far as the
Speaker 2: sweet part of the bitter and sweet saying. But it's
Speaker 2: hard to be like I mean, not only is it
Speaker 2: understanding that she would go back home and take over
Speaker 2: that legendary program that is where she's from. She's made
Speaker 2: it clear since she's been here that she would do this,
Speaker 2: you know, like I don't even again. Volleyball still one
Speaker 2: of those things that when I do talk about it
Speaker 2: and acknowledge sort of what she's done by making this
Speaker 2: program so successful during her time here, but also getting
Speaker 2: fans interested in a way that like I would have
Speaker 2: never expected, like perfect timing. We're volleyballs growing in popularity
Speaker 2: because it's a great TV product. You can be such
Speaker 2: a casual and easily understand it and be entertained by
Speaker 2: it and Oh, by the way, if you're a Louisville fan,
Speaker 2: your team's been pretty damn good. So it was the
Speaker 2: perfect storm. She's been great. But you know, when she
Speaker 2: was building this thing and they were locking her down
Speaker 2: as best they could, I mean, she always was transparent
Speaker 2: that this was going to happen, and here and here
Speaker 2: it did happen. So you know, I would imagine that
Speaker 2: she'll continue to be super successful wherever she goes and
Speaker 2: as far as where the program is, you know, in
Speaker 2: the in the future. I mean, I know there's a
Speaker 2: lot of folks that feel confident that that that her
Speaker 2: successor her assistant coach whose name is escaping me right now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I get it, like things are going well,
Speaker 2: let's just let's see if this guy's got the got
Speaker 2: the ability to kind of keep it rolling and kind
Speaker 2: of just keep this success continuing. But clearly she was.
Speaker 2: She was awesome. But I really feel like knowing that
Speaker 2: you're not starting all the way over right, you're just
Speaker 2: kind of propping somebody up from your staff. Again, you
Speaker 2: have no clue if it's gonna work out. But you know,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of pieces still around that that helped
Speaker 2: make that thing successful. But yeah, shout out to Danny
Speaker 2: Bus from Kelly. She made me a college volleyball viewer
Speaker 2: and man a big time fan of her teams, not
Speaker 2: only because you know, I'm always pulled for Louisville and anything,
Speaker 2: because that's just all I know how to do. But
Speaker 2: they were good and they were fun to watch, and
Speaker 2: I would imagine that you know, she she probably you know,
Speaker 2: I guess it's probably bittersweet for her because you know,
Speaker 2: she doesn't want to leave Louisville. I think she loves
Speaker 2: it here. But you know, that's home to her, and
Speaker 2: that's a great program. And congratulations to her. All right,
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Speaker 2: But let's welcome in. Let's welcome in, Austin. Austin. You're
Speaker 2: on Sports seven ninety. What's happening?
Speaker 4: Hey? What's hard on?
Speaker 3: Nick?
Speaker 2: Not much? Brother?
Speaker 4: The first off, yesterday my dad Aaron called in, and
Speaker 4: so today I'm calling in. Okay, but uh, I'm the
Speaker 4: first time. I'm the first time coming happy to have you.
Speaker 4: I'm twenty two years old and I've been a Kentucky
Speaker 4: fan my whole life, but I really started getting invested
Speaker 4: in that twenty eleven twenty twelve season. So cal was
Speaker 4: the coach that I grew up watching. You asked if
Speaker 4: Kentucky fans would hear boo here in that Arkansas game. Me, personally,
Speaker 4: I would do if I were there, because he's the
Speaker 4: opposing coach, uh and he left us for an SEC rival,
Speaker 4: And it's as simple as that. I don't really get
Speaker 4: the whole hype behind it.
Speaker 2: Meaning my question, when you say you don't get the
Speaker 2: whole hype, do you mean like you don't think it
Speaker 2: should be as big of a storyline as others think
Speaker 2: it should be. Yeah, gotcha.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I know, I know that he's coming
Speaker 4: back and everything, but like it, I feel like it
Speaker 4: would be expected to get booed because you're an opposing coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Rick Patino got booed, and he he
Speaker 2: left on I mean he did go back to the rival,
Speaker 2: so that's different. But I mean Rick was I mean,
Speaker 2: you weren't alive yet, but Rick was the rock star
Speaker 2: in a way that I really have never seen anybody
Speaker 2: else be at that time in Kentucky. But no, I
Speaker 2: hear you. I mean, look, I think cheering the opposing coach,
Speaker 2: even if it is a guy that you know you
Speaker 2: appreciate his time, it's still it would be an awkward
Speaker 2: thing for fans because you know, you want to win
Speaker 2: regardless of who it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but my question to you, uh is if Saint
Speaker 4: John's and Kentucky played, Let's say, I guess this year's tournament,
Speaker 4: who are you cheering for? And I'll get off here
Speaker 4: and listen and also shout out to my dad, Aaron.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Aaron and Austin. Thank you for the call. Austin.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it a family affair. Good to hear from
Speaker 2: your dad yesterday, and appreciate you calling in today and
Speaker 2: making your debut with us. Yeah, I mean I don't
Speaker 2: have I would probably I'll put it this way. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't be cheering as far as like really like, oh
Speaker 2: I hope that shot goes in. And now I'm not
Speaker 2: by the way, when I say cheering, I'm not talking
Speaker 2: about like I would be up shaking pom palms and
Speaker 2: yelling at the TV. That's really only Louisville, and I
Speaker 2: hadn't done it in a long time. Man, I'm doing
Speaker 2: a lot this year with this team because they're so
Speaker 2: fun to watch. So when it comes to like the
Speaker 2: preferred outcome of that I would want it. I think
Speaker 2: I would want it to be Rick, but man, it
Speaker 2: would be tough. But I don't really have any I mean,
Speaker 2: I take Rick for what it is, and we're gonna
Speaker 2: play Rick Matino, by the way, because he talked earlier
Speaker 2: today and was encouraging Kentucky fans to not boo Caliperi
Speaker 2: when he comes back. Which Rick is really really good
Speaker 2: at everything, really, but he's really really good at making
Speaker 2: it about him and what really if you think about
Speaker 2: it as an obvious thing, but he's he got you.
Speaker 2: He's got you in the palm of his hands to
Speaker 2: where you don't really realize it. He injected himself into whole,
Speaker 2: into the Mark Pope higher like I'm sure Pope would
Speaker 2: have shown him some love one of his guys like Rick, Like,
Speaker 2: Rick's gonna make it about him, he always has, always will,
Speaker 2: but he does it in a way to where I
Speaker 2: don't think a lot of people realize it. And look,
Speaker 2: he's somebody that will always be able to just say
Speaker 2: things and that you know are nonsense or big exaggerations,
Speaker 2: and he just tells his tales and we sit back
Speaker 2: and listen. You know who else did that? John cal Perry,
Speaker 2: I mean, but cal Perry of course fell off there
Speaker 2: in a way that Rick didn't. But yeah, I would,
Speaker 2: I would. I would probably prefer to see Saint John's
Speaker 2: win that game, because again for me, even on Saturday
Speaker 2: with Arkansas and Kenny being on Cal's staff, I just
Speaker 2: don't know if they'll ever be a basketball game where
Speaker 2: Kentucky's playing, And I am not hoping that they lose,
Speaker 2: because it's just how it works in a rivalry. But
Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll learn on Saturday if I find
Speaker 2: myself saying, you know, go Kats, I mean, and then
Speaker 2: then then I, oh, one, I'll probably have my wife
Speaker 2: take me to the emergency room to see what's wrong
Speaker 2: with me. But you know, I'll know that that's how
Speaker 2: That's how much I guess, maybe like Pope and Kentucky
Speaker 2: or probably more than anything, just I still am always
Speaker 2: gonna enjoy seeing caw lowse a quick break will come
Speaker 2: back on the other side. We got to talk about
Speaker 2: the piece of news that came out today in regards
Speaker 2: to Terry Rozier is certainly not good if in fact
Speaker 2: it is true, And we got a lot of other
Speaker 2: stuff we need to get to. But I gotta quit
Speaker 2: yap and get to break because we're up against it.
Speaker 2: Here a little longer segment than usual, but that's okay,
Speaker 2: it happens. It's coffee and company. Feel about Thorn's right
Speaker 2: here on Sports Talk seven ninety two. Things I did
Speaker 2: not expect to be real and of course be topics
Speaker 2: to an extent on the show today, Terry Rozier is
Speaker 2: apparently well. I shouldn't say that it's happened because we
Speaker 2: don't know, but he is. He's being investigated by the
Speaker 2: FBI for being connected to the same gambling ring that
Speaker 2: probably gave us the wow. I mean, certainly in modern
Speaker 2: history when it comes to athletes shaving points, getting caught
Speaker 2: up in sports wagering, John say Porter, you know, betting
Speaker 2: on his own games, shaving points quite literally, texting the
Speaker 2: you know, the leaders of this group during games, like
Speaker 2: at halftime about what he's going to do and what
Speaker 2: they should do. I mean, that's why he's not only
Speaker 2: being held accountable legally, but also he's banned for life
Speaker 2: from the NBA. And I mean I mean that he
Speaker 2: the NBA would never shut down, but I mean like
Speaker 2: if it did be if there was the NBA's got
Speaker 2: its own problems, but if there was ever a point
Speaker 2: where quite literally nobody believed it was real like it.
Speaker 2: You know, people were out here doing this and you
Speaker 2: just every play you thought, Okay, well that guy's probably
Speaker 2: in on it. I mean that sacrifices the livelihood of
Speaker 2: everybody involved in the NBA. So you have to make
Speaker 2: examples out of people. So what apparently has has led
Speaker 2: to them looking into Rosier for quite some time is
Speaker 2: that when they're going back and looking at the gambling
Speaker 2: habits of those that were brought down in this this
Speaker 2: big bust that they made months ago, those people who
Speaker 2: bet heavily on what Porter were doing. Porter was doing
Speaker 2: you know random to by the way, Johntay Porter's not
Speaker 2: I mean, you can get odds for anybody, but John
Speaker 2: Say Porter is somebody that you know, because of his
Speaker 2: playing time. You know, if he had a an over set,
Speaker 2: he could you know, he didn't play enough to where
Speaker 2: he could have one bad player two bad plays here
Speaker 2: and there that would that would make it to where
Speaker 2: he understandably wouldn't meet certain lines that were met. So
Speaker 2: you know, those same people that were betting heavily were
Speaker 2: also betting heavily on on Rosier, and again that's that's
Speaker 2: that's not good. So it says here this is from
Speaker 2: Front Office Sports, that federal prosecutors have been investigating whether
Speaker 2: Rosier manipulated his performances as part of an illegal sports
Speaker 2: betting scheme. The ring accused of conspiring with John Say
Speaker 2: Porter also bet heavily against Rosier in a twenty twenty
Speaker 2: three game for the Hornets. So this has been going
Speaker 2: on since you know, I mean I imagine, I mean
Speaker 2: hadn't been going on recently because these guys this this
Speaker 2: this illegal sports betting ring. I mean, they've they've been
Speaker 2: taken down. But when they're looking at what they were
Speaker 2: betting on, I'm curious, was it one or I mean,
Speaker 2: I would imagine for to get to this point, it
Speaker 2: wouldn't be that there's just one game they made a
Speaker 2: big wager. But if they see a pattern in a history,
Speaker 2: it would give them the assumption that they are they
Speaker 2: they had they either they are talking with Terry or
Speaker 2: they know somebody that is. But Pat forty of Yahoo
Speaker 2: just put up a piece. I'm sorry not yeahoo previously
Speaker 2: ya who now Sports Illustrated. He put this up just
Speaker 2: within the last few minutes and I haven't been able
Speaker 2: to read it in its entirety, but yeah, it's just
Speaker 2: it's mentioning the well. Yeah, in fact, I guess there's
Speaker 2: a little more context here, more so I guess opinion
Speaker 2: than anything. But Terry, if you remember, he did play
Speaker 2: for the for the Charlotte Hornets for a little while
Speaker 2: and that's when this was alleged to have been been happening.
Speaker 2: That you know, they believe he was manipulating his own
Speaker 2: stat line to help, you know, make money, which clearly
Speaker 2: shaving points, that's what it is. But that Terry was
Speaker 2: was a big was was complaining, fans were upset with him.
Speaker 2: Fans thought he wasn't playing well and that maybe he
Speaker 2: wasn't like, maybe he wasn't real obvious if he was,
Speaker 2: in fact out they're shaving points because that led to
Speaker 2: him getting traded to the Heat. So yeah, the Wall
Speaker 2: Street Journey originally reported it. But I'm going to try
Speaker 2: to read the rest of this this article from forty.
Speaker 2: He usually has you know, some good info, good tidbits
Speaker 2: in his his reporting, so I mean, I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if there's more to it right now, but certainly something
Speaker 2: to keep an eye on. Terry, one of the better
Speaker 2: guards that's played here in my lifetime, didn't ever play
Speaker 2: in a Final four, and really he only had I mean,
Speaker 2: he played on that as a freshman, and certainly, you know,
Speaker 2: you could tell he had talent, but he broke out
Speaker 2: as a sophomore in a major way and obviously ended
Speaker 2: up being a lottery pick and just a hell of
Speaker 2: a player. Fan favorite. Good story, but this would be
Speaker 2: awful and you know, one of those things that you
Speaker 2: may find a way to not call the guy, you
Speaker 2: know a bad guy. Maybe at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: it was him trying to do something for somebody that
Speaker 2: he cared. I mean, again not to say you can
Speaker 2: justify it as if it was the right thing to do,
Speaker 2: but you maybe learn about it and you don't feel
Speaker 2: as if you know, he's still a terrible person. But
Speaker 2: if anything, just really stupid, I mean, just I don't
Speaker 2: understand how anybody in professional sports would would consider, even
Speaker 2: for a millisecond the risk reward here. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: one of the stupidest things you can do as an
Speaker 2: athlete to ruin your career. I mean, it's a lot
Speaker 2: of stupid things you could do, but I mean, this
Speaker 2: is the money that you could make from betting. I
Speaker 2: mean you could make that money. I mean, like, it's
Speaker 2: just so stupid, and you also are stupid to probably
Speaker 2: think that you can get away with it.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Somebody brought this up on the text
Speaker 2: line of a moment ago that there have been some some
Speaker 2: college basketball insiders that that are now reacting to this
Speaker 2: story today and saying that there's belief that there's some
Speaker 2: college players that have that have been involved in it
Speaker 2: as well. There been, like you know, there's been Twitter
Speaker 2: stuff out there about that, but I don't believe there's
Speaker 2: ever been any legitimate reporting that they were investigating guys
Speaker 2: who played college basketball, meaning like you know, high level
Speaker 2: guys that you watch in big games. But I got
Speaker 2: to say, if it does become something that we find
Speaker 2: out is real and they're looking into it, I don't
Speaker 2: know how surprised I'd be. But there is a random
Speaker 2: tweet from nearly two years ago that has resurfaced, and
Speaker 2: it's just wild how Twitter can can can give us
Speaker 2: this and maybe you think this is not even worth mentioning,
Speaker 2: but there's a guy that is a sports better content
Speaker 2: creator in that world. And back in let's see when
Speaker 2: this was March of twenty twenty three. Here's what he tweeted,
Speaker 2: is there any reason why there are zero Terry Rozier
Speaker 2: props on any books or daily fantasy sports sites out tonight?
Speaker 2: That I missed something very odd? Well, then he responded
Speaker 2: to it later that night his own tweet and said,
Speaker 2: and now Roseer plays just nine minutes and then is
Speaker 2: out the rest of the game? Question mark conspiracy theist
Speaker 2: are going to run with this one. So that was
Speaker 2: tweeted out on March twenty third of twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: so roughly two years ago, a little bit underd two
Speaker 2: years ago. And I would imagine that they were looking
Speaker 2: at I mean, I'm sure he was taking off the
Speaker 2: boards because they were at least looking in to see
Speaker 2: if maybe he was in on it. And I don't
Speaker 2: know what I'm curious about is you would think by
Speaker 2: now they'd be able to know if he is or isn't.
Speaker 2: And today's report the news that broke from the Wall
Speaker 2: Street Journal. I mean it really, it just says that
Speaker 2: they are looking, that they're investigating it, and it's because
Speaker 2: of this, meaning the same people that were trying to
Speaker 2: make money off of the Johntay Porter stuff, they were
Speaker 2: also doing the same thing with Terry. So you know,
Speaker 2: he's not been found guilty yet, but certainly not a
Speaker 2: good look. Another story really quickly that has the same
Speaker 2: element to it, where something comes out and you can
Speaker 2: go back in Twitter years ago and see that, Okay,
Speaker 2: maybe there were some signs, maybe some things you see
Speaker 2: on Twitter that you now just assume there's no way
Speaker 2: that can be true. Maybe you then realize that you
Speaker 2: know it is true. But Justin Tucker again I meant
Speaker 2: to mention this earlier, but Rosier being involved in a
Speaker 2: gambling ring. That's not something I expected to ever talk about. Also,
Speaker 2: Justin Tucker, the kicker for the Ravens, being a guy
Speaker 2: who's been banned from massage parlors in Baltimore because he's
Speaker 2: I guess, pretty upfront about what he wants. He doesn't
Speaker 2: just want his back rubbed, if you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: He wants to tug as well. Not something you'd ever expect,
Speaker 2: but here we are. And then I mean, this is
Speaker 2: I swear to you, this is absolutely this is absolutely
Speaker 2: one of those one of those things that you would
Speaker 2: see and just assume, well, that's random. There's no way
Speaker 2: that's true. And by the way that that's the news
Speaker 2: is that he has been the newsbrook earlier that he
Speaker 2: there's been he's been accused of inappropriate behavior by six
Speaker 2: different Baltimore area massage therapists and the investigation is being
Speaker 2: done by the Baltimore Banner. And you know it's now
Speaker 2: out there that they're looking into it. Well, sure enough,
Speaker 2: you go back to twenty twenty one, four years ago,
Speaker 2: somebody's tweeted out Justin Tucker is canceled. But it's not
Speaker 2: my place to provide the reason. Let's just say he's
Speaker 2: been told by many massage places to never come back.
Speaker 2: So that comes out again November of twenty twenty one. Well,
Speaker 2: then somebody's been able to dig up a couple of
Speaker 2: more tweets that came out. These are from also around
Speaker 2: the same time. Justin Tucker must not have received his
Speaker 2: happy ending that he forced the masseuse to give him
Speaker 2: this week, probably because he's banned from every spaw in Baltimore.
Speaker 2: Another one fun fact, Justin Tucker does something prematurely and
Speaker 2: it's banned from multiple salons in Baltimore. I couldn't say
Speaker 2: the word, or I probably could, but I didn't want to.
Speaker 2: But I think you know what I'm getting at. So,
Speaker 2: I mean, both are probably saying their innocence. So I
Speaker 2: shouldn't just assume that this proves that it's real. But
Speaker 2: there were, Like I mean, all the Rozier thing does
Speaker 2: is confirm that they were looking into it. If they
Speaker 2: were taking him off of me, somebody played a lot
Speaker 2: of minutes, had a big role, and if you weren't
Speaker 2: allowed to do any get any action on him as
Speaker 2: far as sports books or the daily fantasy stuff, then
Speaker 2: that's that is highly unusual. And now we know why.
Speaker 2: Now will they be able to prove that he did
Speaker 2: have involvement or will we find out that he did.
Speaker 2: I don't know, same thing with Justin Tucker. I mean,
Speaker 2: these are just accusations. But you know the fact that
Speaker 2: it came out from Rando's just in Baltimore that maybe
Speaker 2: knew one of these massuses, I mean kind of makes
Speaker 2: it seem like something did happen. I don't know, is
Speaker 2: that a thing massuses? That doesn't sound like.
Speaker 3: It sounds like a fake word. But I think you're correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know, I'm sure I'm not correct, but yeah,
Speaker 2: it just sounded weird. It's one of those things. I
Speaker 2: said this the other day on the show John. There's
Speaker 2: a guy that plays for Duke and his name is
Speaker 2: Khan Canipple, and that is how you say his name.
Speaker 2: But I've never heard anybody say it and not sound
Speaker 2: as if they're they know they're saying it wrong, Like
Speaker 2: there's no way that's somebody's name. Kan k Nipple.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah it is.
Speaker 2: So when I say messuses, I just feel like I
Speaker 2: feel like I'm I'm making up a word. But anyways,
Speaker 2: we got to get to a break, quick, quick break.
Speaker 2: We'll come back on the other side. Keep this thing
Speaker 2: rolling along. I really enjoyed seeing all these quotes from
Speaker 2: anonymous coaches that Jeff Borzello ESPN included in an article.
Speaker 2: All these coaches talking about Pat Kelsey and Louisville and
Speaker 2: what this team's been able to do. And it probably
Speaker 2: doesn't surprise you they're saying the exact same things we
Speaker 2: are so we can discuss that, and we'll let you
Speaker 2: hear Patino tell UK fans to not boot Caliperry. I'll
Speaker 2: do that. So any of the Louisville fans that have
Speaker 2: texted in today answering the question that I put out there,
Speaker 2: You're probably not gonna be too high too low about anything.
Speaker 2: But if you can pick the outcome, what are you picking?
Speaker 2: And you can't say, of course both lose. Do you
Speaker 2: want Kenny Payne and Caliperi to come into Lexington And
Speaker 2: and really, I mean that's another thing for me. I
Speaker 2: was going to say, put a big stain on their
Speaker 2: special season. It really wouldn't do that, And that's one
Speaker 2: of those things that just makes sports great. A loss
Speaker 2: here would only I mean, it wouldn't be good for
Speaker 2: your resume, but it wouldn't knocked out of the tournament.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't change the ceiling people think you have. It
Speaker 2: would be looked at as a fluke loss for Kentucky
Speaker 2: because Cali Perry showed back up and his team was
Speaker 2: ready to play and they got too tight. But like,
Speaker 2: it wouldn't really change much for you. But yet it
Speaker 2: also I know there's fans that would maybe take two
Speaker 2: losses to other teams before they take this one, just
Speaker 2: because of the emotion that comes with it. And that's
Speaker 2: what makes sports great, is like rivalries. And this is
Speaker 2: a weird way to frame the Cal Kentucky situation because
Speaker 2: it's not a rivalry, but you know, it's there's He's
Speaker 2: not just any other coach either. It's kind of like
Speaker 2: when LOUISLL and Kentucky played each other in both football
Speaker 2: and basketball. More often than not. There are some exceptions,
Speaker 2: but more often than not, it's really just about bragging
Speaker 2: rights for fans. But yet it means so much to you.
Speaker 2: It's a higher high when you win, and it's a
Speaker 2: lower low when you lose. So but again, anyways, the
Speaker 2: LOUISLL fans that have answered have all said that they
Speaker 2: don't see themselves in in any way rooting for Kentucky.
Speaker 2: So you know, somebody just wrote woo pig suuy, so
Speaker 2: I guess that tells me that they're pulling for for Arkansas.
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the lot of men's clinic fellas.
Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of you out there that
Speaker 2: feel like any acknowledgment about maybe a rectilis function or
Speaker 2: maybe about potentially having low testosterone. You just, you know,
Speaker 2: you block it out of your mind as soon as
Speaker 2: it maybe comes up in your mind because you think
Speaker 2: it's weak and there's no way. You're a man, you're tough,
Speaker 2: and I get it, Like I understand how that works,
Speaker 2: But have you ever considered that, you know, it's also
Speaker 2: just kind of taking care of yourself being healthier. I mean,
Speaker 2: for me, I didn't really know what low testosterone meant.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know what testosterone is, but when I
Speaker 2: would hear of low T and low testosterone, I wouldn't necessary.
Speaker 2: I just kind of put it in the same boat
Speaker 2: as like a rectiltis function, and it's not the same.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a totally different thing. So, you know,
Speaker 2: just uninformed, ignorant to it all. For many years, I
Speaker 2: just assumed it was older people and you get older
Speaker 2: and you no longer produced testosterone, which of course that
Speaker 2: can happen. That's normal, but it's also very normal in
Speaker 2: people that aren't in their forties or fifties. You could
Speaker 2: be in your late twenties. I mean, heck, for a
Speaker 2: variety of reasons, you can have low testosterone even when
Speaker 2: you're a young A young stallion you know, just just
Speaker 2: depends on your situation. But for me, I felt like
Speaker 2: I lost my edge. I no longer was able to
Speaker 2: kind of put in the same work in the in
Speaker 2: the in the gym that I that I that I
Speaker 2: used to, and I stopped seeing even like results that
Speaker 2: I was used to getting from the workouts. I was lethargic. Really,
Speaker 2: I just kind of lost my edge.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: I developed some some real pudge that just didn't seem
Speaker 2: to make a lot of sense, right, excess belly fat,
Speaker 2: maybe some mooves, and I'm just thinking, this doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's something wrong with me. And initially I just
Speaker 2: thought that it could be something, you know, maybe it's
Speaker 2: something something about, you know, my my thyroid or something,
Speaker 2: because I know people whove had thyroid issues that have
Speaker 2: caused that kind of stuff. And then after a while,
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, like all these symptoms they're
Speaker 2: talking about, even like my mental health, like maybe I
Speaker 2: have low tea. So I decided to go reach out
Speaker 2: to our partners Lovell Men's Clinic, and I got to
Speaker 2: go meet doctor Wood, and he educated me on a
Speaker 2: lot of things and really explained sort of how common
Speaker 2: it can be and how if you go to your
Speaker 2: doctor and they check your levels, they're not going to
Speaker 2: be alarmed by it, because it's not like it's a
Speaker 2: gigantic health risk to have low TEE for your age,
Speaker 2: but your testosterone should be at in a certain range
Speaker 2: depending upon your age range. And that's something that you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't know. So they check my levels,
Speaker 2: and mine were not at all where someone my age
Speaker 2: should be. In fact, they were, I mean they were
Speaker 2: at a level of somebody old enough to be my
Speaker 2: dad or older than my dad. And that wasn't great
Speaker 2: to hear, but it kind of also was because it explained, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's why these things have been happening for really the
Speaker 2: last year and a half. So sure enough, I started
Speaker 2: taking testosterone treatment and I've been doing it for over
Speaker 2: a year now, and I mean just I mean, it's
Speaker 2: not like I've changed a whole lot about my lifestyle,
Speaker 2: but having my levels where they need to be, it's just,
Speaker 2: you know, everything in life's been better, sleeping better, better workouts.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's something that I wish I would
Speaker 2: have looked into a lot earlier, but better late than ever.
Speaker 2: And I know there's some people listening right now that
Speaker 2: are probably like thinking the same thing, like, well, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know if I have the same
Speaker 2: edge anymore. Maybe my you know, maybe my sex drive
Speaker 2: is not where it should be. Maybe maybe I'm getting
Speaker 2: man boobs and I don't know why because I'm not
Speaker 2: changing anything about my diet and I'm still exercising. It
Speaker 2: could be low t So give them a call over
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Speaker 2: dot com. All right, let's uh, let's do this. Let's
Speaker 2: take a break. We'll come back and finish strong here
Speaker 2: on the five o'clock the hour. We got one more
Speaker 2: hour left, and we'll certainly make the most of it.
Speaker 2: We'll get back into the basketball conversation. And I mentioned
Speaker 2: this earlier, but ESPN's Jeff Borzell will put together an
Speaker 2: article and it has a lot of quotes from ACC
Speaker 2: coaches who just opposing coaches that have played Louisville this year.
Speaker 2: And I just can't get enough of hearing people rave
Speaker 2: about this team and how special of a season it's
Speaker 2: been so far, and how we're healing, and you know,
Speaker 2: it seems like we're getting we're getting. If we're not back,
Speaker 2: we're getting there. And it's it's been fun. So stick
Speaker 2: around one hour left right here on Sports Talk seven
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