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a former b YU head coaching great, the greatest head

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coach in bi basketball history to talk to some Cougar

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basketball as well as Jimmer for Dead as he's getting

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Speaker 1: The rafters, and I wonder, yeah, I wonder.

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Speaker 2: I've chatted with Jimmer about this before was Jimmer for

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that capable of playing and making it impact in both

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football and basketball at by if you would have been

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a dual sport athlete, you wonder, Robb, We know a

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lot of guys could have probably played too, Smot. We

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saw Jared Hall do it baseball football. I think Taysom

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probably could have done baseball football. We've seen Corbyn and

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Bronson do the football basketball deal. You wonder if Jimmer

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Will come in former BYU head coach, the greatest head

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coach in BAU basketball history.

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Speaker 1: We got Dave Rose, the goat on the line. Dave,

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how you living.

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Speaker 3: Good? How are you doing today? I'm doing fine.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing awesome. Brother.

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Speaker 2: Love talking ball with you here. What do you think

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you saw Jimmer play in high school. He was a

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ball He was all state wide receiver. I don't know

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if he ever did any running back. I think he

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was just the wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: Skill guy.

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Speaker 2: Do you think he could have played an impactful role

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on the football field as well at b YU, Well, I.

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Speaker 3: Sure wouldn't put it past him, just simply because of

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how hard the kid worked. I mean, he he he

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was so committed and so dedicated. But I mean he

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was so goal oriented. I mean this kid when he

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when he decided that, you know, this was what he

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wanted to work on, I mean, it just it just

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became a reality. And so I wouldn't put it past

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him that he could, you know, put a football uniform

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on in college. And I don't think it would be

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the most physical position on the field, Okay, but I

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think it would be a pretty skilled position, which he was.

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He was that for sure.

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Speaker 1: See.

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Speaker 2: I actually think Jimmer is more physical than some people realize,

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especially like senior Jim Er. I felt like I felt

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Jim or his senior year, like I thought, we saw

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a little bit of what I deem. And hopefully this

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is not disrespectful. I've said it before, but it's kind of.

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I think Chubby Jimmer is the best Jimmer because he

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was so physical, his broad shoulders, you know I'm talking

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about he could get anywhere on the on the court.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know, like Chris Paul is like a

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thick dude, right.

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Speaker 2: Like you look at some of these point guards in

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the NBA, they're not as like they're not like the

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Russell Westbrook like you know, weaving through and utilizing you know,

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Speaker 1: These thick point guards.

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Speaker 2: That last a long time in the NBA as distributors,

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and they can just get anywhere on the court using

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those broad shoulders in big bodies.

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Speaker 1: Jimmer, Chubby Jimmer was the best Jummer in my opinion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well he was. He was really physical in college

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kind of kind of a different way. He took a

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lot of blows. Yeah, and and and he and he

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still was didn't they didn't have a way to guard him,

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so most people tried to rough him up and uh,

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Speaker 1: What do you what did he way his senior year?

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know, but but he was a

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he was a guy that no one messed around with

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in practice because if if if they if they you know, collided,

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usually the other guy got the worst of it, you know.

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he would have decided, you know, to be a football player,

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he he could have carried a lot more weight. I

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don't know if you've seen pictures of him when he

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was a young kid, you know, in his early teens,

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and you know what, he was a chunk, you know,

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football path, you know, maybe he would have looked like

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a linebacker. You know, who knows.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's quick, obviously that first step. I'm sure

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he he made a lot of guys mission in the

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open field as a wide receiver, but he.

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Speaker 1: Was, uh you know, we got to check. I told

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Speaker 2: Need to see the mixtape of the high school film,

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the all state wide receiver film.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some day I need that in my life.

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Speaker 3: Hey, it was it was really impressive. I mean the

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fact I watched a lot of our players over the

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years play high school football. Luke Worthington as the guy

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they It was interesting to me to watch each one

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of them with their style and then how it how

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it defined on the itself on the basketball court. You know,

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Luke was such a physical guy and a guy who

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took blows and delivered blows. And you know, Jimmers was

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one of those guys who tried to stay away from

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the contact and but but be really skilled, you know.

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He could get himself open and he he didn't miss

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anything throw and thrown near him. You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you got to see a couple of

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these guys that could play football and basketball, the Calfusi,

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the Kafusi crew, you know, and and uh, you know,

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there's not that many of those guys that that can

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a fairly high level.

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Speaker 1: Uh, it's it's truly unique.

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Speaker 2: What did you make of Like, did you believe that

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that Bronson and Corby could make the impact that they

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did while they were playing basketball?

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football and Bronson I think was football then to basketball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we we had. We had a really interesting time

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in both of their the way they fit uh in

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that you know that you're promise that this is going

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to happen, and then this will happen, and then this

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same page. And so he came to play basketball, and

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and and not necessarily an offensive guy, but a guy

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who could just really help us physically down low. And

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for him. So I think I think that Bolton were

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a little bit different, but it is amazing. You've got

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to be pretty dedicated and uh, you know, a pretty

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significant athlete as far as your uh, your skill level

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is concerned. That they were both really fun to coach

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player uh to play in Spokane and not get beat.

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our team was in that run when we won three

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I want to say Kelly olinek never wants

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to see a CAFUSI ever again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Kelly's done pretty good

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for himself, hadn't he?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, he has no doubt. We wish him well. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Talking with Dave Rose here on your Utah ESPN Radio

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Network Greatest Coach and b with you basketball history, when

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did you know going back to Jimmer, when did you know,

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like You're like, Jim Er is going to be special.

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iconic type of career at b YU. At what point

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kid's going to be special.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I knew he was going to be

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a good player for us. And you know, I didn't

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in the day when you recruited your kids that you

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thought that he could keep them around for a year,

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then maybe they'd go on a mission, then maybe come

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back to their juice sophomore year and help you, and then

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their junior senior year that'd be real players for you.

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he never started a game. Uh. You know, Ben Murdoch

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like Jimmy, you'd probably lose them. You never see him

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just proved everybody on our staff that he was the

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maybe he wasn't able to play, Uh, maybe a game

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in Texas El Paso or something like that. But he

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Speaker 1: It was great watching him, There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: And Uh definitely Uh one of the most unique players

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in bau basketball history. And bas Uh has another most

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unique basketball player right now with a J. D.

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Speaker 1: Bontsa. Uh, He's gonna be one and done.

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Speaker 2: He may be the first overall pick in the NBA draft,

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Jimmer was a top ten pick as well. And Uh,

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Byu has AJ. Now what what do you what do

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Speaker 1: AJ?

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Speaker 2: I mean, how special is it what we're watching at

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you know, because Aj has experienced so many things. But

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the physical leader of this group obviously is is AJ's

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ability to get to the rim and to score points.

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think the fact that you've got him, you know, and

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uh the other two, well you got the point guard

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Speaker 1: And then Richie Saunders, that.

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guy and the guy who's kind of been through all

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the all the steps of a of a traditional you know,

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b y U star and UH is really carrying a

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a leadership role on that team as well as a

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real scoring though too. And defensively he's gotten better. He's

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a really good rebounded for a size and his position.

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I mean, I really like to make up those three

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guys and as the one thing coming out of the

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of the Arizona Arizona game the other night. The loss

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was really obviously disappointing to everybody, but to have some

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other guys show up and really help and contribute late

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in that game to really help, you know, b why

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you down the stretch and as they as they continue

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to play on and we just need a few more

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guys to to make some baskets for him, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: The bench scoring right, bench productivity. I put out a

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poll today on social media. I asked who's the fourth

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leading scorer on this BYU basketball team? So if I

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asked you that question, Dave, Now, I'm not trying to

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get trick you here.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's just a question. I'm not trying to

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make it look bad, right.

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Speaker 2: Because you're not pulling all these data points like I

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didn't know.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea.

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Speaker 2: I guessed it right, luckily because I knew it was

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a trick question the person who asked me.

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Speaker 1: But you got capa keda.

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Speaker 2: You have Cannard Davis, Junior, Dawson Baker and Mihilo Boskovic.

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Who's the who's the fourth leading score on this bo

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basketball team?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a it's a it's a pure guess from me. Okay,

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but I say, Dawson Baker, it is, It's.

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Speaker 1: Right, exactly, No, it's Dawson, dude.

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Speaker 3: No way. Is it really that he had some big

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games early in the year and we really really missed

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those points.

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Speaker 1: He played in six games, Dave, only six games?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a big blow to us.

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You know, everybody was came out of that, you know,

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feeling good, and we won that tournament and everything was good.

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But the fact when we found out his season was over,

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that that was a big blow. And I know it

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obviously is a big blow to the coach staff and

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there you know, these new guys that have jumped in

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there in their role. It seems to be a game

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by game situation thing. And at home you can get

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away with you know a lot of guys who are

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still trying to figure it out. But on the road

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it really shortens your rotation and you really you really

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need to have more guys or you get tired. And

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you see what happened at Texas Tech. I mean, the

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damage was all done in the last ten minutes. And

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to me, it has to do with a lot to

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do with fatigue and the fact that you know and

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not that they're playing too many minutes or so many minutes.

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But playing on the road is a different animal than

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playing on the road, I mean then playing at home.

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And we've got some really tough road games ahead of

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us here and obviously when coming up this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the bench scoring, bench productivity, you wonder where it's

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going to come for that's been a question on our minds,

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and so let me ask you this. You know, there's

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a component of practice. You've seen so many hours of practice,

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you feel like you know your team, You feel like

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you know your team, and you have your rotation. But

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in answers the game scenario, and a guy like Alexi

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Coastick all of a sudden comes in off the bench,

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hits two threes and actually plays with a good defense.

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Speaker 1: But up to that.

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Speaker 2: Point you kind of had him on the outskirts. It's like,

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how do you figure out when's the time for a

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guy like Alexi Coasti to see more minutes when practice?

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Maybe not, maybe it's not the key indicator of how

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he's going to play in the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that sometimes when you just look

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at it, you think well, if he can do it

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in this game, he can do it in that game.

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And sometimes with those younger guys and the newer guys

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trying to get experienced, it really is matchups. And if

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he's the guard line is maybe a little bit big,

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a little bit slower, uh than that lends itself to

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this guy maybe being able to play a few more

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minutes compared if it's a small, quick, really athletic group

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but not a great scoring group, then you can get

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away with maybe more of a defensive guy. And so

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I think that's what you know, coaches trying to figure out, Well,

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he's got to figure out he knows what he wants

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to do and what he wants to do. But that's

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what the fans are trying to figure out. Why some

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guys are playing this game and then in that game,

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and this guy hit two three his last game, why

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doesn't he play the same amount this time? And and

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and matchups? I think, really, really, and you're talking about

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uh when you talk about you know, college coaches, they're

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they're they're they're kind of match up guys. But NBA

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guys are match up guys. You know, times ten, it's

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all it's all about matchups and how you know you

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guys fit in certain situations and uh, you know, so,

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I think you're seeing a lot of that. But you know,

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our depth on the bench, especially defensively and physicality and

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files is a lot deeper than our you know, our

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depth on the perimeter. And I think that we get

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more minutes out of our perimeter guys at home than

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we get out them out of them on the road,

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and that needs to kind of switch, you know, it

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just needs to equal out a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: I think, well, what's should as to you about this

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BAU basketball team in these three games?

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Speaker 1: Right, you're down? What were they down?

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Speaker 2: Like twenty two versus Yukon, They stormed back, They made

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it into a one position ball game. Clemson they were

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down twenty something points, they storm back, they find a

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way to win. Uf A they're down nineteen, they storm

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back at the Marriage Center and they have the last possession.

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What does that tell you about this BOE basketball team?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think I think it's kind of, you know,

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a cliche. And then you know, all the announcers talk

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about their streaking team, they're you know, not as good

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in the first half as they are in the second half.

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I tend to just look at at it like this,

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this is a really good team throughout the entire game,

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but it's it's it's really really good in the second half.

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It's a great second half team. I think that that

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they're they're lit. They play a little bit cautious in

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the first half, and I'm and I don't know if

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that's the right word, but to me, just as a

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fan trying to look at it, is that they are

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really concerned about getting themselves in foul trouble or not

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getting themselves in foul trouble in the first half, those

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three guys, And it may be I have a little

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bit to do with that, but their physicality. I think

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the way they play in the second half is what

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lends them to be such a more dynamic second half team.

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Is because they realize the game is a lot shorter

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and they they you know, their minutes. You know, they

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don't have to play thirty five minutes. You only got

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to play whatever portion of those twenty minutes in the

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second half they're going to play, and I think they

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play with a lot more freedom with their intensity level,

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if that makes any sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Pet, we've been trying to diagnose you know, why

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is it? Why is it that this Boa basketball team

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is the seventieth best first half team and they are

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literally the best team in college basketball in the second

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half of games. You partitioned it their efficiency, their productivity,

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their defense, their offense.

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Speaker 1: They are number one in the nation in the second half.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that has a lot to do with

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with coach and his ability to to kind of rest

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those guys. I mean, to me, that part of the

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game is really fun for me to watch. I was

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there at court courtsight at the Clemson game, and you know,

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at halftime, every BYU fan that you know I talked

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to or talk to me, you know, they they thought

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the game was over and we had no chance, and

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you know, you just you just refer them to the

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Yukon game. Now. I believe that every b y U

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family watches this team believes, no matter what the score

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is at halftime, that we're still in it and we

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still got a chance. But you're talking about real three

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really special guys as far as being able to score

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the ball at the collegiate level. I mean, these three guys,

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they're all prepared at a different point. You know, Rischie

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with his experience and Robert Wright with his ability to

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hand the ball, get to the basket, you know, shoot

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three point shots, get to the free throw line of

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an age is just a generational talent, you know. And

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so I I really, uh, you know, I just love

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watching the team. I think it's fun, and I think

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coach has done a terrific job managing that group. And

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it gets tough now. I mean, you played the second

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half of your league schedule and then you go to

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the league tournament and then the NCAA tournament. It's been

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kind of, you know, really fun and enjoyable at this point.

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But it's going to get pretty stressful here going down

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the stretch, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've been around so much basketball.

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Speaker 2: There's a certain element of talent, there's a certain element

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of tenure.

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Speaker 1: They get old, get old, stay old. Mantra. You've gone

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to Sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 2: You had the potential probably to go to an Elite

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eight or maybe in the final four of some of

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the talent that you had at b YU. I've always

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said you need at least two NBA players in order

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to get to their to the Sweet sixteen. If you've

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got three NBA players, you're you're Elite eight or even better. Uh,

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you got three NBA players right now, what's the ceiling

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do you think of this boy basketball team?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that I mean you said it before.

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I think I think what we're going to really determine

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how far they go will be the their chemistry and

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how they just how they continue to jail together or

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if they've hit their best, you know, the best time

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as a group, you know, in chemistry. Because because physically

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Ballent wise is going to be good enough to get

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him through a lot of games, most games, but when

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you get into in a real you know, elite to

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the top, you know fifteen, top twenty group in college basketball,

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I mean, it takes way more than just you know,

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your physical ability and it's going to be a group

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that's together and it's you know, playing for the same

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thing and tugging on the rope all the different things

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that you want to you know, everybody has their own

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way of you know, quantifying it, but basically it's, you know,

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you've got to have great talent and great chemistry and

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obviously you know they've they've got to have a really

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good experience.

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Speaker 2: Dave Rose. Ladies and gentlemen talking to bau basketball. Final

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thing for me, Dave, appreciate your time. Thanks for talking

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some ball with us today on this Cougar Sports show.

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Uh how does uh? How does uh?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: B what you bounce back after that that loss versus

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you of a h They they they're taking on Kansas

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in uh in fog Allen, Darren Peterson, one of the

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best scorers in college basketball.

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Speaker 1: Going to be head to head with A J. D. Bonts.

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Speaker 2: How do your bets back off to after a loss

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like that on your home court?

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Speaker 3: Well, I, you know, I hope that it's it's a

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you know, a really kind of a runaway game, kind

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of like the way that we got them at our

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place last year. But I don't think that that's what

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we're looking into. I think it's gonna be a really hot,

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hard fought game. You got to the best young players

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you know in collegiate basketball that are playing against each other.

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And I mean I saw I think today that it's

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a one thousandth game in uh hug Allen the field House,

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and so I think that you're going to have a

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real real battle and if the visitor can come out

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with a win on Saturday night, they're capable of winning

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any game anywhere, anytime, so hopefully we can get that done.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us, Thanks for talking some

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gym or some ball, some football and basketball. You you

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probably could have been a pretty good tight end, right,

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which one would it have been?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: My high school coach my senior year tried hard to

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get me to come play football, and I was living

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in Texas, so obviously I was waiting to him on

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the on the basketball floor and h I tried to

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make a deal with him, if you know that, come play,

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if if I could still play your workout with the

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basketball team during football season. He said no, no, so

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he didn't deal with we did I did play baseball.

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I convinced the baseball coach, so I played. And I

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actually played baseball and basketball at Dixie College when I

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was in junior college. So they u but the football

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was not going to share anybody with anybody.

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Speaker 2: But wouldn't it been great if you would have You

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would have done two things. I would have put you

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as a specialist. You block field goals right just running

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up and jumping in the middle. It's your vertical and

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your length and your height. And you would be a

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goal line receiver tighten just split off, you know, we'd

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throw the fade route, maybe a slant every now and again. Uh,

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a little little fade stop to the back shoulder.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 2: You would just be a specialist. They got specialists everywhere.

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Why not be a specialist. If that was case, you

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would have done it right.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's how the that's how the the the

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youth used Kta Blona. I know it's your senior and

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Ed the Broncos even drafted him to do it, you know, yes,

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so uh yeah, it's it's a real thing nowadays. If

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all you have to do is hike five times in

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the game, and you can be the long snapper.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 1: And what what was your? What was your? Because you pitched,

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didn't you?

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Speaker 3: I was a pitcher in junior college, and uh I

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didn't pitch a lot in high school. I Uh, I

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don't know. I just I played baseball for fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Basketball was what I always really wanted to do, and

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I loved it and and baseball was kind of a

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and I think that if I would have played baseball

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like serious, I probably wouldn't have been as relaxed and

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probably wouldn't have been as good. But uh, I do

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think that, uh, you know, playing two sports is is

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pretty healthy for guys, and guys can really get caught up.

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It's just so hard nowadays, you know, because everybody's so

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skilled and there's so much time put into your physical

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strength training and your you know, your diet and everything,

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and for every sport it's just a little bit different,

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and so uh you know, guys are are. I think

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that's why they're so much better. I think we're watching

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a product on the floor that is so much better

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as far as five athletes on one team against five

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really as a lot of guys on another team that

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are really skilled. And uh that's why these these games

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are so exciting, so so uh you know, just fun

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to watch.

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Speaker 1: Dave Rose, Ladies and gentlemen. Dave, thanks so much for

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joining us. Brother. We'll catch up at the end soon.

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Thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks, guys, we'll see you there you go.

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