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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBZ Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks very much'll wish the Red Sox saved a few

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<v Speaker 2>of those runs for tomorrow. Nineteen to three. That's a whooping.

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<v Speaker 2>How would you like to be a member of Baltimore

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<v Speaker 2>Orioles and realize that it's not even Memorial Day yet.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be a long season, fella, It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a long season for the Birds of Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 2>My name's Dan Ray. I'm the host of Nights I'd

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<v Speaker 2>heard every Monday through Friday night right here on WBZ.

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<v Speaker 2>As you wend your way to the Cape or up

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<v Speaker 2>north out towards the Berkshires, we will keep your company.

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<v Speaker 2>You are more than welcome to join the conversation at

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<v Speaker 2>any point. We have two hours down and two hours

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<v Speaker 2>to go. On a Friday night, I will remind you

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<v Speaker 2>I will be here on Monday night, Memorial Day. I

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<v Speaker 2>will be here. I'm not sure. I don't think Rob's here.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Rob's taking the holiday off, but I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to be here on Monday night. I will be off

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of days next week on a personal matter,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's a different that's a different story. So I

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<v Speaker 2>will not be here each day next week, but I

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<v Speaker 2>will be here on Monday night, actually Monday Tuesday, and

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<v Speaker 2>then Friday. I'll be off Wednesday and Thursday. You can,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, catch up with past podcast Every hour

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<v Speaker 2>the hours. They post it in reversal order, which means

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<v Speaker 2>tonight it's eleven o'clock hour, which we have yet to do,

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<v Speaker 2>will be at the top of the list throughout the weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>Rob posts those tonight. The second one will be the

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<v Speaker 2>ten o'clock hour, which we're doing right now, and the

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<v Speaker 2>third one will be Last Hour, which we did with

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<v Speaker 2>Frank Baker, Boston City Council at Large candidate. And you've

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<v Speaker 2>the price of entertainment, folks. I hate to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>I we need to have a sponsorship on this program,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would hope that you would support the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>all of our sponsors. There's no one who's who's who

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<v Speaker 2>I sponsor, who I endurese that I do not use myself.

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<v Speaker 2>people who support the program. I've never had a dental implant,

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<v Speaker 2>but I have sat in the chair out there with

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five pounds ten years ago, or Prolo therapy which

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<v Speaker 2>great bank run by Bob Rivers, the president there, who

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<v Speaker 2>really is in tuned with what banking customers here in

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<v Speaker 2>the Greater Boston area Eastern Massachusetts really need. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I sometimes need to take more time to just reassure you.

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<v Speaker 2>And as they say, we always love input from you

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of stories. We will do an eleven o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>hour tonight, and which of course is the twentieth hour,

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<v Speaker 2>and I will tell you that I'm thinking tonight of

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<v Speaker 2>giving you three options in the eleven o'clock hour, And

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<v Speaker 2>it is also what we call a hall pass hour,

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<v Speaker 2>which means even if you have called in earlier this week,

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<v Speaker 2>we'd like to try to keep people to one call

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<v Speaker 2>a week, but in that eleven o'clock hour, or what

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<v Speaker 2>a hall pass. So I want to talk this hour

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<v Speaker 2>about the Trump administration. Now. I think all of you

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<v Speaker 2>know that I am not what you would call a

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<v Speaker 2>down the line Trumper. I like to think of myself

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<v Speaker 2>as someone who's willing to look at what a president

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<v Speaker 2>does and say, yeah, I agree with that, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I don't agree with it. Many of you out there

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<v Speaker 2>are for on with Donald Trump no matter what he does,

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<v Speaker 2>which is fine. I respect that that is not me.

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it was necessary. I think that his

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<v Speaker 2>trip to the Middle East was very successful. I'm hoping

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<v Speaker 2>that some of the prisoner exchange that occurred between Russia

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<v Speaker 2>and Ukraine in the last forty eight hours. Augurs, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I am not convinced that all of the tariffs needed

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand it, and maybe you can help me

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<v Speaker 2>that are understand it, okay, And that is Donald Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>war with Harvard. Now, I did not go to Harvard.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to Boston State College. I have two kids

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<v Speaker 2>who went to Harvard. They paid full vote. Okay, it's

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<v Speaker 2>as simple as that. There are I guess twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the undergraduate and graduate students at Harvard who

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<v Speaker 2>come from countries around the world. Now, if someone comes

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<v Speaker 2>to this country from another country on a visa, I

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<v Speaker 2>think they need to behave themselves. Can they participate in demonstrations,

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely absolutely. I would like to think that they would

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<v Speaker 2>participate in demonstrations that are support are of our country's

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<v Speaker 2>history and our policies. If someone like the students at

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<v Speaker 2>Columbia physically interfered with Jewish students or Israeli students because

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<v Speaker 2>they're Jewish or Israel, pull their visis get them out

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<v Speaker 2>of here. Okay. But that person. There's a line between

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<v Speaker 2>free speech. Going to a demonstration is not the same

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<v Speaker 2>as impeding someone from walking to classes. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand why Donald Trump feels that he wants to go

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<v Speaker 2>after Harvard. Now, I know Harvard is the biggest and

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<v Speaker 2>the best and the most well known. Obviously Princeton, Yale

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<v Speaker 2>would disagree with that analysis, but I think it is

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<v Speaker 2>the school that is known best around the world. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure those that at Oxford might disagree with that, but

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<v Speaker 2>for our purposes, I think we can agree upon that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that the new president of Harvard, Alan Garber,

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<v Speaker 2>of Harvard to essentially surrender and say we're done whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you want us to do. Now, the Trump administration filed

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<v Speaker 2>an action to basically tell Harvard you can no longer

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<v Speaker 2>accept foreign students and we're going to pull the visas

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<v Speaker 2>of those who are here with their student visas. Now

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<v Speaker 2>that's a huge threat. It's a huge threat, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>a threat not only to the institution. It's a threat

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<v Speaker 2>that's heard around the world. It is a shot that's

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<v Speaker 2>turned around the world. It basically says to the world

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<v Speaker 2>that if you're interested in coming here to a university,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever your goal is is to get, whether it's to

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<v Speaker 2>you're penalizing young people from around the world. Uh, in

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion unnecessarily. Can you distinguish and can you say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this person at Columbia did this, This person at Columbia

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<v Speaker 2>engaged in rhetoric that was virulently anti semitic. Absolutely pull

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<v Speaker 2>anyone out there can explain to me why Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>seems so intent to going after Harvard, I'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>have a conversation six one, seven, two, five, four ten

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<v Speaker 2>one final court with Donald Trump. I don't think understood

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<v Speaker 2>understand in his second term, was that you govern by

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<v Speaker 2>majority in a democracy. And once you lose your majority,

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<v Speaker 2>you lose your power. You basically expend political capital that

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<v Speaker 2>you have earned in your campaign. I thought that he

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<v Speaker 2>was in a wonderful campaign, survived an assassin's bullet, survived

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<v Speaker 2>the second potential assassination attempt, and I think that that

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<v Speaker 2>there will be people who will follow him through a

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<v Speaker 2>brick wall. But that is not fifty one percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the American people. He has the support and had the

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<v Speaker 2>support of about fifty plus. It was not a mandate

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump. It was an election, okay, and you ran

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<v Speaker 2>against a weakened Democratic Party and a weekended Democratic candidate.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you think that you can spend political capital

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<v Speaker 2>by pursuing things like Harvard and throwing students who are

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<v Speaker 2>here and have never done anything problematic, you will destroy

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<v Speaker 2>your own candidacy. It won't be the Democrats who will

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<v Speaker 2>destroy it. Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. Let's get

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<v Speaker 2>this conversation going. We're going to go with this until

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<v Speaker 2>eleven o'clock. Convince me I'm wrong, Convince me I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>I think my position is absolutely defensible, but I want

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<v Speaker 2>to hear from you if you agree with me. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>love to hear from you. If you disagree with me,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to hear from you back on night Side

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<v Speaker 1>You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All let's go to the phone. It's gonna go to

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<v Speaker 2>Joel and Native Joel, you are first up this hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome my friend.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you fine?

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<v Speaker 4>Man? I have a collection night for you. Sure Fox

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<v Speaker 4>For nineteen o five, Tall pitched the ninth inning and

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<v Speaker 4>gave up two runs to the bom Royals who.

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<v Speaker 2>Pitched the ninth inning. Oh the first basement. Okay, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well thanks, thank you, thank you very much. So that

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<v Speaker 2>means the Orioles had a field goal and a safety.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, that's right now. Now that Parma University, Parmi

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<v Speaker 4>University does not scream any kind of students at the

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<v Speaker 4>university doesn't care whether the students come from, as long

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<v Speaker 4>as they paid that tuition or the country to come

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<v Speaker 4>from pay the tuition. Alvin Eursey wants to be diversified,

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<v Speaker 4>so anti American and antisemitic propal study in Phama's students

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<v Speaker 4>as well Communist Chinese students will allow to attend with

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<v Speaker 4>no second thoughts I cannot say that about the copany,

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<v Speaker 4>but they're probably just as bad as the students.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look, I think that there there are certainly there

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<v Speaker 2>was a professor at Harvard who was indicted, served time

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<v Speaker 2>here and is now accepted a faculty position in China.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, I mean, there's no question there's about I

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<v Speaker 2>guess seven thousand students what twenty eight thousand between undergraduates

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<v Speaker 2>and graduate students at Harvard, you know, a huge figure.

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<v Speaker 2>My problem is when you paint with the broad brush,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that you do yourself much good. I

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<v Speaker 2>understand Harvard is big and represents a lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>that uh, you know, real diehard Trump supporters are concerned about.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just think that you know why, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what is do you think the President Trump thinks that

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<v Speaker 2>every one of these people from around the world who

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<v Speaker 2>have come to Harvard are bad people? I mean, why

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<v Speaker 2>would you paint with such a why why do you

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<v Speaker 2>paint with such a broadbrush? And again, you and I

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<v Speaker 2>see this a little differently. You know, I am as

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<v Speaker 2>as virulently concerned about anti Semitism. I am fundamentally concerned

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<v Speaker 2>about that, and I don't like the scent of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like the smell of it, and it needs

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<v Speaker 2>to be rooted out. And some of those kids at

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<v Speaker 2>Columbia who blocked Jewish students from attending classes, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gone. You're gone. But why go after every student?

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<v Speaker 2>Well I know that, but but I just think that

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to be getting rid of some Israeli students.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to get rid of the Israeli students.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I just I think he likes to

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<v Speaker 4>You know, as long as students are here, I'm visus

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<v Speaker 4>It's only when they viewers go against American views that

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm with you. We would probably have to debate

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, that's you know, that's that's fine, that's acceptable

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<v Speaker 2>in the library, or going into the cafeteria, that's unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 2>That student has forfeited their rights to be here. But

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<v Speaker 4>In my opinion, I agree with doing that. I agree

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So we're in. We're more in agreement than

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<v Speaker 2>in disagreement. Joel. And I know you're a you're a

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<v Speaker 2>he hurts his cause in my opinion. Thanks Joel, Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>me let me start Harvey Silver glad here Hobby is

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<v Speaker 2>to say. Harvey, go right ahead. If we got a

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<v Speaker 2>to the other side of the news. Go right ahead,

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<v Speaker 5>Trump's attack on Harvard is not done as a matter

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<v Speaker 5>of principle. The man has no principles. He was pro

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<v Speaker 5>Israel until he went to Cutter. They gave him, they

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<v Speaker 5>Suddenly he's a friend of the Arabs.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think he's still I still think he's pro Israel, Harvey.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that he's trying to bring uh. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's trying to cause some division within the Arab block

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think he's you and I disagree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>To the wolves. You really think he would throw Israel

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<v Speaker 5>If there was something in it for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, all right, the.

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<v Speaker 5>Man has no principles. Okay, anyway, but that's going by

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<v Speaker 5>the point.

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<v Speaker 3>With respect to Harvard, Harvard.

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<v Speaker 5>Is, as a matter of fact, the wealthiest American institution.

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<v Speaker 5>It is, as a matter of fact, the oldest American

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<v Speaker 5>institution of higher learning. It is subjectively considered one of

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<v Speaker 5>the half dozen best universities in the world. Trump figures

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<v Speaker 5>if he could bring Harvard down, he can control American

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<v Speaker 5>higher education, beating his megalomania and That's the reason he

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<v Speaker 5>has attacked Harvard, don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think legally he can win that fight.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I don't think he's gonna win because he didn't.

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<v Speaker 5>He expected Harvard to fold like a cheap suit that

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<v Speaker 3>But Garber and the president Garber were in Provost.

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<v Speaker 5>Manning suddenly decided enough is enough and they decided to

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<v Speaker 5>say no. And Trump ego was really bugged by that,

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<v Speaker 5>and so he is trying to bring Harvard them.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I got to ask you a question. I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta ask you a question. Would you agree with me

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<v Speaker 2>that Columbia has much more to account for in how

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<v Speaker 2>they conducted themself, how the university conducted themselves in the

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<v Speaker 2>face of these demonstrations that Harvard did. I think Harvard

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<v Speaker 2>can have conducted themselves very well. I think Columbia had

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<v Speaker 5>I agree with that. But letting Trump run Columbus was

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<v Speaker 5>not the The answer was self improvement, Yes, self reform. No,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And what I'm saying is is that they still

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<v Speaker 2>and and they The president of Columbia is Claire Shipman,

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<v Speaker 2>who used to be a network television reporter. Incidentally, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't realize she had such academic credentials to be the

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<v Speaker 3>I are you.

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<v Speaker 2>Familiar with her background? She's she was a good reporter,

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<v Speaker 2>good network reporter. I think she at one one point

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<v Speaker 2>of President of President Biden. But I didn't think that

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<v Speaker 2>a good it would not be a good look. Harvey,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Garbera I agree with you. I think Garbera

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like Trump, he doesn't want to take the victory.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd rather continue to pound Harvard.

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<v Speaker 5>Because I actually wrote a letter to Manning, to John

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<v Speaker 5>Manning and too Alan garber and I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>so you've shown backbone. And I increased my annual giving,

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<v Speaker 2>But I also think I also think Harvey to his

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<v Speaker 2>to his credit, Garber sent signals make comments which suggested

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<v Speaker 2>that they recognized that maybe they could tighten up the

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<v Speaker 5>We're working on it. Yeah, and they're working on it.

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<v Speaker 5>And I got an email back from Garber thanking me

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<v Speaker 3>Up on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I'm in similar fashion with you here. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you talk to Alan Garvin, he'd like to be

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<v Speaker 2>think that he had said to the administration, and not

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<v Speaker 2>in so many words, hey, we realize that we're not perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>We can do some things better here, and maybe Trump

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<v Speaker 2>recognized that or perceived that as a sign of weakness

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to a sign of accommodation and decided, well,

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<v Speaker 2>now that they have shown weakness, I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 2>in for the kill. I think at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the day, Trump is going to lose on this, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to spend a lot of political capital and

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<v Speaker 2>lose a lot of political capital.

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<v Speaker 5>Dan, Yeah, he is losing court. I have a little

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<v Speaker 5>doubt about that. The question is will he obey the

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he has a choice because if he

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<v Speaker 2>lose is a district court, Harvey, you know the system

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<v Speaker 2>as well as I do. It's going to go eventually

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<v Speaker 2>through the appellate If it does go through the appellate

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<v Speaker 2>court up to the US Supreme Court, he may have

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<v Speaker 2>one or two votes that would stay with him on this,

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<v Speaker 5>Two votes in the Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we see it. You and I and you

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<v Speaker 2>and at that point that's going to be devastating. I

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<v Speaker 2>have no idea who's advising him legally, Harvey.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not sure he's taking advice.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, if that is true, Uh, he's even worse.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if he's using Stephen Miller as his legal advisor,

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<v Speaker 2>he'd better ask to see Miller's law degree, which doesn't exist. Yeah, Harvey,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you man. I got the news here and I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to drag you through the news. Thanks, as always.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you. You're particularly situated, particularly well situated to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about anything related to Harvard. I really do appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>you taking the time tonight. Appreciate it. Thanks, buddy, Talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you soon, all right. I'd love to hear from

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<v Speaker 2>you if you're if you think the President is doing

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<v Speaker 2>this effectively and it is in his political interest, I

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<v Speaker 2>think he has basically taken on a fight he cannot win.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't understand why his lawyers don't have the

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<v Speaker 2>backbone to say, mister President, with all due respect, you

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<v Speaker 2>were not on legal ground here that is solid. You

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<v Speaker 2>are going to lose if you continue to press this point,

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<v Speaker 2>agree or disagree. I'd love to hear from you, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>until eleven o'clock six one, seven, two, five, four ten

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're if you're a Trump supporter and you

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<v Speaker 2>and you agree with me, I'd love to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming back on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on wz Boston's

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<v Speaker 2>Next up, Ted in Medford, Ted next to the Nightside.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for calling in. Go right ahead, sir, Hi.

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<v Speaker 5>Dan, long time. We've talked quite often. Apparently Trump has

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<v Speaker 5>never been to Harvard because that place, that's not an

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<v Speaker 5>goes there for her master's degree. Yes, a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>the students my daughter's age don't get the world and

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<v Speaker 5>they do stupid things. I walked by Tufts every day,

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<v Speaker 5>and last year with all the protests the Middle East

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<v Speaker 5>and Israel and Palestine is very hard for the smartest

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<v Speaker 5>people to figure out. I didn't vote for Trump, I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't vote for Biden. I'm disappointed in Trump because I

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<v Speaker 5>really think he had an opportunity, with his bully pulpit,

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<v Speaker 5>to really make change. And I don't get it when

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<v Speaker 5>you're the heavyweight champ.

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<v Speaker 6>Of the world.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't punch down and wait. Yeah, and he fights

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<v Speaker 5>for the sake of fighting. And I don't know what

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<v Speaker 5>lawyers he has, just like the Doze Union stuff. He's

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<v Speaker 5>losing all those cases. He's losing a lot of credibility.

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<v Speaker 5>I think this is about taking down higher education. And

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<v Speaker 5>what I should have led with is I've never thought

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<v Speaker 5>I would say these words in my life. That my

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<v Speaker 5>thunder was stolen by Hobby Silvergate, who I've read for

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<v Speaker 5>years and years, because a lot of what he said,

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<v Speaker 5>I agree with him. He's obviously a much smarter man

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<v Speaker 5>and I'll ever be and knows Harvard much better than.

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<v Speaker 3>I ever will.

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<v Speaker 5>But people need to understand too with international students, I

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<v Speaker 5>deal with a lot of people from into here in

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<v Speaker 5>my business. A they pay full freight to come here, yep,

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<v Speaker 5>they pay, they had no help. And B these as

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<v Speaker 5>people disappear, Like in the liquor inconvenience business. It's been

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<v Speaker 5>getting killed since Trump has been office because a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of these people aren't going out because some of them

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<v Speaker 5>on here legally. They're afraid that I know somebody whose

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<v Speaker 5>daughter had a violation on a kicket very well to do,

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<v Speaker 5>wealthy Indian family that owns a lot of businesses in Boston.

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<v Speaker 5>Because of that, her visa is in jeopardy. No, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't understand the laws as to why. But this is

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<v Speaker 5>all not it's just it's it's just a complete waste

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<v Speaker 5>of time. The whole cut of thing bothers me. I

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<v Speaker 5>am trying to hold out hope that at some point

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<v Speaker 5>Saudi Arabia has to help us figure out Israel and

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<v Speaker 5>Palestine and say y'all going here, y'all going here, we

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<v Speaker 5>promise there'll be no Arab aggression. Maybe that's what he's

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<v Speaker 5>trying to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what he's trying to do, I think, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll disagree with my good friend Harvey silver Clay. I

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<v Speaker 2>do know that from Trump's perspective, he sees the world

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<v Speaker 2>from his perspective and what's in it for him. But

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<v Speaker 2>I do think that he has an understanding, just a

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<v Speaker 2>fundamental understanding of the importance of the name of the

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<v Speaker 2>state of Israel and what it represents historically, you know, biblically,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean all of that, all of that. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>very special place. It has a history. I spent the

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<v Speaker 2>day at Auschwitz in nineteen eighty six. Not that it

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<v Speaker 2>changed my view. My dad had lectured us as kids

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<v Speaker 2>World War II veteran never forget, never again. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it was it was imprinted on my mind. The smartest

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<v Speaker 2>kids who I went to high school with were Jewish kids.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, it's yes, you know, I gotta tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's it's true. But but the point

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<v Speaker 2>is it's pretty clear who the good guys and the

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<v Speaker 2>bad guys are in the Middle East, and and the

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<v Speaker 2>israelis the good guys. They didn't stay.

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<v Speaker 5>This generation is more to lunch than our generation was.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they didn't. It wasn't Israel that attacked Tamas on

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<v Speaker 2>October seventh, and and Trump, if you go back to

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<v Speaker 2>the first Trump presidency, the Arab Accords was an effort

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<v Speaker 2>to basically get some of the kind of rational Arab

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<v Speaker 2>states to come around and say, look, Israel exists and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to deal with it. And you have Yemeny Yemen,

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<v Speaker 2>with their backing from Iran firing rockets into Saudi Arabia.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that Saudi Arabia might come around even is

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm trying to say.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, they're coming around in a lot of other ways too,

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<v Speaker 5>because the world has changed and money makes the world

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<v Speaker 5>go around.

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<v Speaker 3>It's absolutely there's real money at stake.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, like I say, with my daughter all

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<v Speaker 5>the time, as bright as she is, much smarter than me,

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<v Speaker 5>better student, we did not push back when the older

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<v Speaker 5>generation the way that this generation does even were aarguan

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<v Speaker 5>something on Mother's Day and I was clearly right. She's like, yet,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to occu on Mother's Day. And then

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<v Speaker 5>she texted me the next day like twenty five PowerPoint slides.

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<v Speaker 5>I go, sweetheart, I've lived a lot more life than you.

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<v Speaker 5>I love it yet, it's the best thing.

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<v Speaker 3>In my life.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm beyond proud of you. You haven't lived enough life yet.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a daughter too. I have a daughter too. Okay, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll just leave it.

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<v Speaker 5>At that dead Yes, yes, sir, enjoy the show is always.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, thanks so much for calling. I've

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<v Speaker 2>called more off and will you. I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's keep going here with the conversation. We're having a

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<v Speaker 2>fun tonight. Let me go to my friend Susan and Cambridge.

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<v Speaker 2>Susan and I normally disagree, but there may be some

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<v Speaker 2>some threat of agreement here, Go ahead, Susan.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, there may be, but I just I got to

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<v Speaker 7>chuckle out of that. Twenty five power points flies. That's

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<v Speaker 7>a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I assume you could probably pull one of

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<v Speaker 2>those together pretty quickly too, Go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>Did you happen to hear Representative Lynch's comments today?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>I did.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, they were on DZ, and I don't think i've

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<v Speaker 7>ever heard him so exasperated. He used every four letter

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<v Speaker 7>word that he's allowed to use, you know, in the media.

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<v Speaker 2>But let me ask you this, Steve, I've always said

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<v Speaker 2>that I felt Steve Lynch was the along with Seth Moulton.

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<v Speaker 2>They are, and they are two solid members of the delegation.

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<v Speaker 2>They would be my two favorite Democrats. May not be

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<v Speaker 2>your two favorite Democrats. But today you're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>quoting Steve Lynch, so go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I was just going to point out that, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>he's no, you know, far far lefty. Of course, I'm

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<v Speaker 7>pretty sure he wasn't educated at Harvard.

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<v Speaker 8>He's still oh absolutely no, I'm just saying that he's not,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, he's not coming to you know, Harvard's sense

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<v Speaker 8>because of that, you know, and what I liked is

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<v Speaker 8>that he spoke to to be honest, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>I don't really care about.

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<v Speaker 7>What political capital Trump is expending on this, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 7>not I'm not interested in that. I'm interested in what

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<v Speaker 7>Lynch was saying, which is the stuff that he is

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<v Speaker 7>destroying right now, like in terms of the sciences and

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<v Speaker 7>people coming here and doing research and and pulling funding

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<v Speaker 7>in the midst of clinical trials. I mean, that's just

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<v Speaker 7>economically stupid. That's just a waste.

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<v Speaker 2>That was what Lynch said today. And I understand that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I agree with that. I have a different view

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, so I give you a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>take a shot at me. I want Donald Trump to succeed, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I want Donald Trump to be a good president. I

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<v Speaker 2>want the federal debt to be brought down. I want

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<v Speaker 2>the border secure, I want the United States to have

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<v Speaker 2>a better standing in the world. And I think that

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<v Speaker 2>the craziness of talking about invading Greenland or taking over Greenland,

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<v Speaker 2>or taking over part of Canada basically expends political capital.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have liked to have seen whoever the president

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<v Speaker 2>has succeeded, what Democrat or Republican, And I just I

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<v Speaker 2>hope you feel that way, not that you support his policies,

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<v Speaker 2>but when any president is undercutting their own policies, and

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<v Speaker 2>I can't think of any president who has undercut their

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<v Speaker 2>policies more in both terms than Donald Trump. All it

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<v Speaker 2>means is we will have a president who will be

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<v Speaker 2>an ineffective president, which hurts all of us, right, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Mean past his prologue. We saw that to a certain

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<v Speaker 7>extent in his first and this time. You know, as

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<v Speaker 7>many have said, the guardrails are off. He's got, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>all the sycophants he wants around him, nobody to you know,

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<v Speaker 7>take him aside, you know, and I mean supposedly. The

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<v Speaker 7>reporting is that within within the White House, Stephen Miller

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<v Speaker 7>and a group of a's are like intent on taking

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<v Speaker 7>down Harvard, like destroying it. Basically, I don't understand not

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<v Speaker 7>going to happen. I don't think that's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 7>But I don't understand how they think that that serves America.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I don't need yeah and an agreement.

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<v Speaker 2>But by the way, I do think that many of

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<v Speaker 2>the appointments of Trump in his cabinet in the second term.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Marco Rubio is a good Secretary of State appointment. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that, uh, the Transportation Secretary, Sean Duffy is

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<v Speaker 2>going to do a much better job than Pete Boudhajet.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that our transportation system, particularly our airline system,

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<v Speaker 2>will be in much better shape when Duffy ends his

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<v Speaker 2>four years as Transportation Secretary than it was when Budajet

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<v Speaker 2>Butajet was asleep at the switch. You cannot convince me

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<v Speaker 2>of that, Susan. Okay, So are there are some appointments

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<v Speaker 2>that he's made that are good appointments. Stephen Miller is

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<v Speaker 2>not a good person to have in your in either

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<v Speaker 2>your kitchen cabinet or in your close close circle.

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<v Speaker 7>We agree on that, Yes, I would push back a

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<v Speaker 7>bit on the Buddha sucks because they did. He did

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<v Speaker 7>go to Congress asking for more funding for the FAA

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<v Speaker 7>and was turned down flat.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't he have a Didn't he have a democratic Congress?

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't?

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<v Speaker 2>He he did initially, but sure he had a democratic

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<v Speaker 2>He had a democratic Congress in twenty twenty one when

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden went into office, and our the planes that

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<v Speaker 2>you fly on and the planes that I fly on

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<v Speaker 2>and that your family flies on, we're not as safe

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<v Speaker 2>as they should be. And I don't care whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>a Democrat or.

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<v Speaker 7>Republic focus on the initially was on the effects of

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<v Speaker 7>the pandemic on the you know, the airspace and transportation industry.

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<v Speaker 7>And so once he got past that, many times.

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<v Speaker 2>You make an excuses, Susan, I'm telling.

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<v Speaker 5>You what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>I know what about Congress.

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<v Speaker 7>They did go, you can look at look at the record.

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<v Speaker 6>He did go.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he did a fabulous job. And he then let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's agree that Pete Buddha Chet was the greatest transportation

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<v Speaker 2>secretary in our history, and that all the problems with

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<v Speaker 2>the planes right now are our Duffy's problems because he's

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<v Speaker 2>been in office now about one hundred days.

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<v Speaker 7>Come on, So I didn't say that.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know, but you're not saying it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're okay, all right, Hey, look I got I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to fight with you. This is the night

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to to have some some areas of a

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<v Speaker 2>agreement with you. So sorry, if I took the conversation

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<v Speaker 2>off in a different direction, I got to run because

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<v Speaker 2>they got two more I gotta get to We'll talk again,

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<v Speaker 2>and next time we'll fight like cats and dogs. Okay, thanks,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, all right, coming back on night Side right after.

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<v Speaker 1>This night with Dan Ray on w BZ, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Susan. She's a friend of mine, even though

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<v Speaker 2>we disagree in a lot of things, but today we

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<v Speaker 2>have some agreement. Hey, let me go to my pal

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<v Speaker 2>Dallas in Ohio. Dallas, Welcome, How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 8>Dan?

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<v Speaker 3>Hello to you and hello Boston and WBZ. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I I really think that President Trump should back down

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<v Speaker 5>on Harvard. I don't understand, you know, what the anks is,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, was he.

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<v Speaker 3>Does. He has some kind of been vindictive attitude towards

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<v Speaker 3>Harvard that you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like if you if you're the toughest guy in

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<v Speaker 2>this in the town Dallas, and you can beat anyone

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<v Speaker 2>up on a one on one fight, you don't go

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<v Speaker 2>into a bar inside of fight with five people simultaneously

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<v Speaker 2>because you're gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Get your No, you don't, but.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>He I don't know, you know, it's like, okay, you

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<v Speaker 3>got Harvard, you know, and then he's back and forth

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<v Speaker 3>with the tariff, you know, and then for a while,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he wants to get Canada and Greenland, and

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, you know, if you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna put it this way. He's not careful. The enemy

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<v Speaker 3>is going to sneak in the back door, and you

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<v Speaker 3>know that's gonna end up being a disaster for the

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<v Speaker 3>United States. I think there's too much distraction, too much

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<v Speaker 3>going on. He needs to really focus on. Uh you know, Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>he's got.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got everything going for him. You know, he won

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<v Speaker 2>an election. People were supporting. He was getting a second chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Americans love a comeback story. They love a second a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that comes back. You know, some quarterback who gets

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<v Speaker 2>hurt and they think his career is over, and next

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<v Speaker 2>he's winning into the super Bowl. Uh. They America loves that.

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<v Speaker 2>They love that. Yeah, and he's just he's he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>blow it if he doesn't watch himself. Dallas, I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>get one more in body. How's everything an Akron? Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, just fine, just fine. I just wish it would

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<v Speaker 3>stop raining.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we got rain up here too. Happy Memorial Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody talks. Soon have a great one. I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>Peter in New York in here, Peter, You're gonna you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna wrap it up. You're you're called late. I've got

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<v Speaker 2>a break for the eleven o'clock news. You got the

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<v Speaker 2>you got the microphone, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>You know I can't stand Trump. I think he's a

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<v Speaker 6>as Rex Tillison said, and Effie moron, and I know

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<v Speaker 6>what he's doing. He has those scruples, as Harvey said.

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<v Speaker 6>And I know him from the time of him, from

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<v Speaker 6>the time he's a kid. His trainer, his personal trainer

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<v Speaker 6>was Roy Cohen. Is anybody worse than Roy Cohen.

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<v Speaker 2>Roy Cone, not Roy Cohen, Roy Cone, Roy Cohen.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, right, the guy from the McCarthy here is and

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<v Speaker 9>everything he does is a test. Look, he's still jerking

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<v Speaker 9>around with the tariffs. He has no idea what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 9>As somebody I heard talk say, he's a bomb thrower.

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<v Speaker 9>He throws the bomb in and then takes on the fight.

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<v Speaker 3>He loves it.

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<v Speaker 9>He has no scroup, as Harvey said, he has no scruples.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, you got the final word of the hour, Peter,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks so much. You got to call earlier.

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<v Speaker 9>I love your calls, but I believe people have to

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<v Speaker 9>read by Roy Cohne.

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<v Speaker 3>They're too young.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no people can read. They if they can read

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<v Speaker 2>up on George Washington. You know it's like people, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not they're not too young to read history, you know

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<v Speaker 2>as well as I do. Thanks Pete, Thank you, Peter.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks good great talks.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to you soon. Goodnight. Okay, Uh, Jack and Newton,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to hold on for the twentieth hour,

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<v Speaker 2>you can, but we got to go to the twentieth hour.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna give you three options. Remember somebody of Memorial Day.

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<v Speaker 2>You could salute a vet uh in that regard, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>your first concert or your biggest regret.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of a multiple choice twentieth hour. We'll be

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<v Speaker 2>back on Night's side.