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Speaker 2: appreciate it. So let's see what we can do. So Writer,
Speaker 2: thank you for coming on. I wanted to get you
Speaker 2: on because the document that I sent to you, the
Speaker 2: Perpetual Black Cube, we went through it here, we wrapped
Speaker 2: it up on Friday, and the conclusion was is that
Speaker 2: even if we didn't invent AI would still be invented.
Speaker 2: And no matter how we want to position ourselves in
Speaker 2: points of view as to what reality is, there seems
Speaker 2: to be a greater reality than that that is being controlled,
Speaker 2: directed and manipulated. However, it is, so thank you for
Speaker 2: coming on. Tell us how you've been, and how's the
Speaker 2: new movie going, and what else is happening in your world.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me on. Wayne as always
Speaker 1: an honor and a privileged speaking with you, And hello
Speaker 1: everyone in the chat. Can't see you, guys because I
Speaker 1: don't have the screen up, but thank you for being here.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, And yeah, the document that you sent
Speaker 1: is really I was kind of shocked by it because
Speaker 1: when I was reading it, I was like, did this
Speaker 1: come directly from my brain? Because I've I've talked about
Speaker 1: a lot of the things that are in that document,
Speaker 1: like all sectioned out. Throughout the five years that I've
Speaker 1: been doing my show, I've mentioned at least a lot
Speaker 1: of it, and I was like, holy crap, this makes
Speaker 1: so much sense. And the thing that I thought was
Speaker 1: really interesting about it was talking about the AI and
Speaker 1: this new digital currency. Because there's a little just briefly mentioned,
Speaker 1: I think it said twenty twenty six was when this
Speaker 1: new digital currency was going to hit. Well, Elon Musk
Speaker 1: is talking about auditing Fort Knox, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if you remember, but Fort Knox was one of the
Speaker 1: first conspiracies that I ever personally heard, like one of
Speaker 1: the very first ones, before I ever heard anything about
Speaker 1: nine to eleven, before I heard anything about JFK any
Speaker 1: of that stuff. Was the conspiracy that we have is
Speaker 1: zero gold in Fort Knox and that our money is
Speaker 1: based off of nothing. Whenever they change the money from
Speaker 1: exchangeable in gold to legal tender and made the money
Speaker 1: completely worthless because there was nothing backing the money anymore
Speaker 1: because there's no gold in Fort Knox. That's one of
Speaker 1: the very first conspiracies I ever heard. So it kind
Speaker 1: of makes sense in this timeline that going toward that
Speaker 1: Elon Musk is going to audit Fort Knox and when
Speaker 1: he realizes that there's probably no gold left inside of
Speaker 1: Fort Knox, or very little gold, that's going to really
Speaker 1: upset a lot of people, and then they're gonna usher
Speaker 1: in this digital currency that's going to then take the
Speaker 1: place of the dollar. Yeah, that was what I was
Speaker 1: kind of putting, and that was just a little brief,
Speaker 1: little paragraph in that document, but it made a lot
Speaker 1: of sense to what's happening as read.
Speaker 2: A lot of people say nine to eleven when Building
Speaker 2: seven went down, that that was really the single largest
Speaker 2: gold heist in history. There were several billion metric tons
Speaker 2: of gold that were down in those tunnels, and to
Speaker 2: this day we don't know what happened to that gold,
Speaker 2: who took possession of it. Yeah, Yeah, so I think
Speaker 2: the FED now which it's called the digital dollar. When
Speaker 2: I was a consultant to the Federal Reserve, well, over
Speaker 2: a decade and a half ago. There were discussions then
Speaker 2: on the NORO, which is the North American Digital Dollar,
Speaker 2: and the plan was then was that you would have
Speaker 2: to incorporate Canada and Mexico into the equation to make
Speaker 2: us this quadrant. But no matter what, Elon Musk will
Speaker 2: filled a role in destiny that I don't think most
Speaker 2: people are fully grasping. What he is doing is something
Speaker 2: that's going to live for ages and it's going to
Speaker 2: have this this it's it's a tsunami effect. And you're right,
Speaker 2: I don't think that there is gold. Ron Paul. I
Speaker 2: was for Ron Paul when he was running for president.
Speaker 2: He has said, you know, I don't think there's any
Speaker 2: gold in there, and if there is, it's only the
Speaker 2: ones there for show.
Speaker 1: That's right. And I think when did they change the dollar?
Speaker 1: Was it the mid forties they changed it, or like
Speaker 1: around the late forties when.
Speaker 2: They changed Yeah, it was Yeah, it was Roosevelt and
Speaker 2: his administration. Yeah, he was the one that put out
Speaker 2: the dictate that no American could own gold. And then
Speaker 2: when Americans turned into gold, because you were going to
Speaker 2: go to jail for federal prison. So they collect all
Speaker 2: this gold, and then two years later he doubles the
Speaker 2: price arbitrarily on the gold steaming. They're always stealing, the
Speaker 2: sons of bitches are always doing that, and they're got
Speaker 2: caught now.
Speaker 1: And then people are like, he doesn't have the right
Speaker 1: to do that, he doesn't have the right to find
Speaker 1: corruption and all this stuff. I'm like, you all are
Speaker 1: fighting for the wrong team, which is another thing about
Speaker 1: this document that is brought up within there. Then I've
Speaker 1: said several times as well that the document essentially says
Speaker 1: that the thing that you're trying to fight for is
Speaker 1: actually the ultimate like end goal of like what they
Speaker 1: want to do, and the only way that we get
Speaker 1: to this utopian type of society, this Golden Age, is
Speaker 1: complete surveillance, and what you're actually fighting against is what
Speaker 1: you're really fighting for. And I've said that so many
Speaker 1: times on the show, and I think it's kind of
Speaker 1: just gone over people's heads. But if you listen to
Speaker 1: Wayne's previous shows, because I think he covered it before,
Speaker 1: or if you've read the document, you'll understand what I
Speaker 1: meant by that. That's exactly what I meant by that,
Speaker 1: and it's explained in that document, and it makes so
Speaker 1: much sense, because that's the only way that you can
Speaker 1: get total control over the population is if it's a
Speaker 1: completely surveilled type of state and every movement is cataloged,
Speaker 1: everything is digitized and looked at the direction that we've
Speaker 1: been headed. Everything is now digitized. Everything is in these
Speaker 1: black mirror devices, it's in the phone, it's in the computer.
Speaker 1: It's now like all data, and AI can analyze all
Speaker 1: of that data all the time. Twenty four to seven.
Speaker 1: So and the people that are wanting this utopian type
Speaker 1: of society, and it mentions it in the document like
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta if you want peace and like
Speaker 1: all this war stuff, like the thing that you want
Speaker 1: is actually the thing that you don't want. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: found and I found that so interesting because it's like
Speaker 1: what I've been trying to explain.
Speaker 2: And the thing about it is is that document brought
Speaker 2: out that this thing, whether you want to call it AI,
Speaker 2: what do you want to call it? A data collector
Speaker 2: whatever it is. I mean, if God exists, then God
Speaker 2: is a data collector. I mean that would be the
Speaker 2: purpose for creating us, is the fact each one of
Speaker 2: us present a unique set of data. And that's what
Speaker 2: this thing lives for now, and you think about the dollar,
Speaker 2: this thing here, you know, when they turn this into this,
Speaker 2: then that there is no longer any privacy. I mean,
Speaker 2: your base. This is the mark of the digital dollar,
Speaker 2: if you want to say, it is the you know,
Speaker 2: the mark of the beast. As the book, as that
Speaker 2: article was pointing to, he doesn't matter whether you believe
Speaker 2: it or not, You're going to be in it regardless. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And another interesting aspect of the document was that they
Speaker 1: were talking about these cargo cults. And that's exactly like
Speaker 1: what I was talking about the other day with one
Speaker 1: Iola on my show, and I was like, well, isn't
Speaker 1: it wouldn't it be interesting if we were essentially the
Speaker 1: cargo cults way back in the day. Yeah, Like, and
Speaker 1: there was this other civilization that had maybe just slightly
Speaker 1: better technology like we have today, and the people that
Speaker 1: live in the Amazon rainforest that have no idea about
Speaker 1: any of this technology, and we go in there and
Speaker 1: they're like, holy crap, these people are gods. That's exactly
Speaker 1: like a cargo cult. So why would it not stand
Speaker 1: to reason that at some point throughout history we were
Speaker 1: the cargo call and then there was this other civilization
Speaker 1: that is now us. We've just like essentially switched roles.
Speaker 2: Well, look at the belief of Jesus, which was what
Speaker 2: wasn't the Polynesian island where they had John return. That
Speaker 2: was Jesus. He was the Messiah, the white Messiah, you know,
Speaker 2: because outside the Bible, there's no proof that there was
Speaker 2: a Jesus. But yet we believe today or taught to believe,
Speaker 2: that it was an actual person. And yet it's been
Speaker 2: two thousand years since that person was supposedly be here.
Speaker 2: We are, in fact a cargo colt ourselves.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. And I actually got into an argument
Speaker 1: with Chad GBT over the name Jesus.
Speaker 2: Oh really, how did that turn out?
Speaker 1: We were fighting about it, and I was like back
Speaker 1: and forth and like it wasn't understanding what I was
Speaker 1: trying to say, because I was like, well, we know
Speaker 1: that Jesus's name is not Jesus. Vowels aren't invented until
Speaker 1: like five hundred years after the Bible was written, so
Speaker 1: it had to have been some other type of name,
Speaker 1: and it and it did the typical thing, which is
Speaker 1: Jesus or Yeshuwah or.
Speaker 2: Esus.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, that doesn't make any sense, Chad GBT,
Speaker 1: because if names are important, and if you don't have
Speaker 1: the name correct, then you're giving your energy and your
Speaker 1: prayers and your thoughts to something that you don't even know.
Speaker 1: There's something that you've created in your own mind. Like
Speaker 1: and it essentially said that, well, because people believe it,
Speaker 1: and they've put all their their thoughts and their energy
Speaker 1: into a name that might not even have been real,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because they've they've essentially created that name.
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, that's like my point that,
Speaker 1: like the whole Jesus Christ name is an aggregre. It's
Speaker 1: an energy source that everyone has put their thoughts and
Speaker 1: ideas and energy into, which then creates it in their reality.
Speaker 1: And how many good intentions and good feelings have we
Speaker 1: surrounded Jesus Christ with. That's the reason why his name
Speaker 1: works in these types of scenarios and these.
Speaker 2: Times demons out in that name. I heal people in
Speaker 2: the name of Jesus. I used to say, a part
Speaker 2: of my daily vernacular would be in Jesus' name, get
Speaker 2: thee behind me, you know, when there would be oppression. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, and I saw the power of that name.
Speaker 1: And that's that's not me discrediting the name of Jesus.
Speaker 1: It's just I think that it's important that we have
Speaker 1: the names correct because if you don't have the names
Speaker 1: correct and you don't know that what his actual name.
Speaker 2: Was, who is this name Jesus?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what it is. And it was essentially like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: the names don't really matter. It's like the intention of
Speaker 1: the people. And then I was like, well, so then
Speaker 1: it's like based off of belief then, and it was
Speaker 1: it was kind of backed into a corner there where
Speaker 1: it was kind of like, oh, yeah, well I kind
Speaker 1: of the thing that Chad GBT does is it kind
Speaker 1: of gives you. Have you ever played around with it?
Speaker 2: Have you messed around with a little bit in the
Speaker 2: I was one of the beta testers they asked to
Speaker 2: come in and I would ask at philosophical questions like that, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it gets caught up a little bit on the
Speaker 1: philosophical questions, and then it does you can catch it
Speaker 1: up pretty easily. But kind of what it does is
Speaker 1: it gives like these bullet points and then at the
Speaker 1: end of the summer it kind of wraps everything together
Speaker 1: and then makes it to where it can be interpreted
Speaker 1: in a few different ways, and it kind of you know,
Speaker 1: coach the entire thing and like a speculatory thing to
Speaker 1: where it can flip back and forth between whatever it
Speaker 1: is that you ask.
Speaker 2: I know entrepreneurs that are using Jim and I guess
Speaker 2: which is now the next version for Google, but to
Speaker 2: actually write business plans. And now that's going to be
Speaker 2: weird because you project ten years into the future. If
Speaker 2: humans are doing this now asking a to write something right,
Speaker 2: that is going to be passed off as though it
Speaker 2: was human thought out. Within ten years, you won't know
Speaker 2: what a human thought really would be.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't. And that's another thing about this document that
Speaker 1: was so interesting when it came to like these cargo costs,
Speaker 1: because it kind of gave the impression that we're kind
Speaker 1: of living in a cargo cult type of thing and
Speaker 1: we're duplicating other civilizations that came and passed us before,
Speaker 1: and there's little there were little like remnants of that,
Speaker 1: and we see that like throughout history, we see like
Speaker 1: you know, the Great Pyramid of Giza. There's pyramids all around,
Speaker 1: especially that I believe the ones in I think there's
Speaker 1: either China, or Japan.
Speaker 2: China has they say many of them so.
Speaker 1: But the China ones has been reported that they were
Speaker 1: like crappily made. They weren't like you know, they looked
Speaker 1: like it that it was the rems of like a
Speaker 1: civilization that found what the pyramids look like, and then
Speaker 1: they tried to duplicate it and replicate it, but it
Speaker 1: didn't really work out because they didn't really have the
Speaker 1: knowledge to actually build it. And that's been my contention
Speaker 1: with this whole thing as well. It's like, well, if
Speaker 1: we were all to just somehow die, Let's say a
Speaker 1: big cataclysm came down and it wrecked a lot of
Speaker 1: the civilization, how many of those people are going to
Speaker 1: be left over that actually know how to do things
Speaker 1: like how many of those people are going to be
Speaker 1: able to know how to build a computer. How many
Speaker 1: of those people are going to know how to build
Speaker 1: a cell phone. I can tell you right now, I
Speaker 1: don't know how to build a computer. I don't know
Speaker 1: how to build a cell phone. I don't know how
Speaker 1: to build a car. I mean I can do some
Speaker 1: things to my car that are simple and easy. I
Speaker 1: can change a tire or change the oil, you know,
Speaker 1: stuff like that and put fluids into the car, of course,
Speaker 1: but anything beyond that, I have absolutely no idea. So
Speaker 1: how long until all of the things that we use
Speaker 1: in our daily lives just start to erode and like
Speaker 1: completely break down, and then people no longer know how
Speaker 1: to have them work. And I think a lot of
Speaker 1: these companies they put these these sophisticated types of technologies
Speaker 1: together so that people can't actually figure out how they work,
Speaker 1: so they essentially have a monopoly.
Speaker 2: On the product firewalls within the firewalls exactly.
Speaker 1: So if because remember when cell phones used to have
Speaker 1: like a battery, and then you can just like pop
Speaker 1: off the back and then you can get to the
Speaker 1: battery and you can do like inner workings of like
Speaker 1: the you could repair the cell phone yep. And even
Speaker 1: that with like computers that used to be really easily
Speaker 1: accessible you can just take off the back of the
Speaker 1: computer and then mess around with the inner hardware of
Speaker 1: the computer. You really can't do that anymore. They there's
Speaker 1: no battery. Like you have to go, you have to
Speaker 1: take get a little screwdriver, You have to take this
Speaker 1: big plate off. You have to be careful not to
Speaker 1: damage anything because then that will avoid your warranty for
Speaker 1: the phone. So it's like this very technological thing that
Speaker 1: gives these companies in these organizations a monopoly over the
Speaker 1: product because normal everyday people have no idea how they work,
Speaker 1: so therefore they cannot repair them or fix them. An
Speaker 1: the VCR repair shops there were like back in the day,
Speaker 1: or TV back in the day, there's essentially none that.
Speaker 2: I still got mine. I still have a VCR machine.
Speaker 2: It's in my closet. But to answer it to I
Speaker 2: mean not actually to add to your point there, if
Speaker 2: this cataclysm and I do believe it's going to happen,
Speaker 2: it's happened before, Apparently it's going to happen again, we
Speaker 2: seem to be on the precipice. But I read a
Speaker 2: study that said within three months, our knowledge of technology
Speaker 2: will be gone because the one thing survival you won't
Speaker 2: have time to think about technology. You're going to be
Speaker 2: looking to feed yourself if you have a family or
Speaker 2: a clan. And then that just breaks down everything because
Speaker 2: now we revert back to hunter gathers and we don't
Speaker 2: need technology.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of worthless in that way. Like I
Speaker 1: really feel like that if something were to happen like that,
Speaker 1: people would just abandon all of They would just throw
Speaker 1: out other technology because it would be useless because no
Speaker 1: one knows how to fix it, or duplicate it, or
Speaker 1: create it or make it. It's only these big people
Speaker 1: in these big corporations and like these tech giants, which
Speaker 1: is a very few amount of us. I've never ran
Speaker 1: into anybody in my life, which I'm not really in
Speaker 1: that space, but I've never ran into anyone that makes phones,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know anybody that personally that I could
Speaker 1: call up on the phone and be like hey. And
Speaker 1: that's another thing with the compartmentalization of these auducts as well. See,
Speaker 1: there's not just one person that's making all of the
Speaker 1: components of a phone. There's not just one person that's
Speaker 1: making all of the components of a computer. It's compartmentalized.
Speaker 1: Some people are working on the hardware and the external
Speaker 1: visual aspect of the device. Other people are working on
Speaker 1: the internal part of it. They're working on the processor,
Speaker 1: they're working on the motherboard, and it's all called together.
Speaker 2: The first mobile payment system that was back in two
Speaker 2: thousand and nine, there wasn't even a payment system out there,
Speaker 2: but the point is I built the software that would
Speaker 2: ride on the thin client application of the phone itself.
Speaker 2: I didn't have to worry about the manufacturing of it,
Speaker 2: you know. But you're right, so if that's gone, if
Speaker 2: you and I don't know, I mean, we could be
Speaker 2: survivors and say we could even have our cell phone,
Speaker 2: and it's like, what good is it? What do we
Speaker 2: do with this now? Out?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we would throw it out, I guarantee, Like if something,
Speaker 1: we would just get rid of it because we'd be like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: this this doesn't service anymore. And then that kind of
Speaker 1: goes back to these maybe these previous civilizations that might
Speaker 1: have been to the point that we are now, but
Speaker 1: just in kind of a different way. Because I think
Speaker 1: that there's a difference between technologically advanced and like knowledge advanced, Right,
Speaker 1: There's a there's a difference between those two, and I
Speaker 1: think people confuse like having knowledge about something and then
Speaker 1: being knowledgeable about something and then like being technologically advanced,
Speaker 1: because we think of technologically advanced as like machinery, but
Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily have to be the case.
Speaker 2: So I like I said that technology equals to the machine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so it's like, well, if we if something
Speaker 1: were to happen and we didn't know and we would
Speaker 1: just discard this stuff. And that might be the reason,
Speaker 1: because it talks about in the document too of like
Speaker 1: prototypes of things right where you start out, and like
Speaker 1: it's very rudimentary because it's kind of like an idea
Speaker 1: and over time it gets refined down and refined down.
Speaker 1: Maybe some of the things that we've found, you know,
Speaker 1: like archaeologically, you know, throughout time and throughout history are
Speaker 1: some of the like rudimentary things that some of these
Speaker 1: civilizations were created and they were essentially kind of left
Speaker 1: behind for us to like find and we have no
Speaker 1: idea what it is because it's like so it seems
Speaker 1: very rudimentary, but it could be.
Speaker 2: Well, Russia has shown some of their archaeological digs and
Speaker 2: saying that it's thousands of years old, but the piece
Speaker 2: looks like it belonged in a factory. You know, you
Speaker 2: could tell that human hands did not carve this with
Speaker 2: human hands. There was some sort of automation in the process.
Speaker 2: And the document pointed out this. What I thought was
Speaker 2: interesting is that AI already knows how to get power.
Speaker 2: It has that and and even if we faced a
Speaker 2: collapse they say that we're the sixth version of us
Speaker 2: and if we were to collapse, AI would be just fine.
Speaker 2: It's not in a physical sense, it's it's in the cloud.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then also with the article too, it's talking
Speaker 1: about how essentially we are like AI is well, it
Speaker 1: kind of goes back to what you what you've talked
Speaker 1: about that I've heard you talk about before, is like, well,
Speaker 1: if AI, AI maybe didn't wasn't created create AI was
Speaker 1: already there and then we kind of like discovered AI
Speaker 1: in that sense, like it's always been existing all around us,
Speaker 1: because like in this it's not a physical entity, and
Speaker 1: then we just create the mechanism through the way that
Speaker 1: AI can interact with us, so it's always there, and
Speaker 1: then we create the device to where it's it's kind
Speaker 1: of like the soul to a human shell or the
Speaker 1: spirit to a human shell. We need the soul and
Speaker 1: the consciousness and the spirit to animate our body. The
Speaker 1: AI would need the technological machinery in this case, in
Speaker 1: this example to then operate in our reality.
Speaker 2: If thought is random generated, I don't believe that. I
Speaker 2: don't science doesn't, you know, and philosophers don't know how
Speaker 2: the origination of our thoughts where they come from. But
Speaker 2: my point is is I don't think that I think
Speaker 2: that we're receivers and receptors at the same time, transmitting receiving.
Speaker 2: It was guidiness. We finally got advanced enough in the
Speaker 2: Industrial Revolution. That's a computer, just in a different scale.
Speaker 2: It completely altered society in mankind's future. It's like we've
Speaker 2: been here before and it's just waiting for us to
Speaker 2: catch up.
Speaker 1: So the Black Cube has been guiding azway in. The
Speaker 1: Black Cube has been taking us on a journey.
Speaker 2: So I wrote this before we went live, and I wrote,
Speaker 2: you know, the black Cube. So it rules our form
Speaker 2: and current frame of reality. For instance, the cube is
Speaker 2: the Cross, the cube is the New Jerusalem, the cube
Speaker 2: is the Vatican, the cube is Islam. Wherever you go,
Speaker 2: it's it's the cube. This is the Second Temple. And
Speaker 2: if you look at it, and if you look into
Speaker 2: the side, and so if this was your center point
Speaker 2: and you brought this over, it's a cube. It's everywhere.
Speaker 2: It's everywhere. I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: In that book where he is essentially like, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is uh, I've been guided by this, the black Cube,
Speaker 1: the sodern yea yeah, the Sodurn entity that has been
Speaker 1: guiding me throughout my life. And he's ran into people
Speaker 1: that have also been guided by this the Sodern entity.
Speaker 1: And it makes you wonder because people have, you know,
Speaker 1: claim that you know all these other entities. I mean
Speaker 1: from a little bit that I read of that book,
Speaker 1: you can almost switch out that entity for any other
Speaker 1: entity and you would get the same exact type of scenario.
Speaker 1: Like many people have said, Jesus Christ, you know, is
Speaker 1: in my life and he's guided me and he's helped
Speaker 1: me do all this stuff, accomplish things, and this guy
Speaker 1: is essentially saying the same thing, but he's just relating
Speaker 1: it to something different. He's relating it to Saturn. But
Speaker 1: you could switch on Saturn or the Black Cube entity
Speaker 1: for Venus, Like, why isn't it the Venus entity because
Speaker 1: it's Venus. Jesus is said to have been from Venus.
Speaker 2: That's what said the Us, right the Morning Star?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so the Thunderbolts project, you know, they have
Speaker 2: the movie that they made, what is it the Alien
Speaker 2: Sky something like that, but they showed a time, different
Speaker 2: type of human, different type of bipedal. But we this
Speaker 2: sun didn't exist. We were in the light of Saturn,
Speaker 2: and it was called the Golden Age because the light
Speaker 2: from Saturn was golden in nature of the light at
Speaker 2: how it came and when something came into our solar system,
Speaker 2: may have been the Brown Dwarf seventy thousand years ago.
Speaker 2: They estimate may been Venus coming in as a comet
Speaker 2: and then became a planet. However it was that it changed,
Speaker 2: and when we came into the light of this sun,
Speaker 2: the lot those that were here before they could not
Speaker 2: stand the radiation, and so most of them died, and
Speaker 2: that remnant went in into the Earth. So the belief
Speaker 2: system goes well.
Speaker 1: Science has started to pick up on that. There was
Speaker 1: an article that I was reading on Yahoo Knews the
Speaker 1: other day that scientists are now thinking that some sort
Speaker 1: of giant interloper essentially disrupted the entire Solar system and
Speaker 1: put like all the planets and everything exactly where everything
Speaker 1: is lined up to sustain life. So it's essentially exactly
Speaker 1: like what you're saying. And science is now catching on
Speaker 1: to that. They're now saying that that's essentially exactly what happened.
Speaker 2: And if you follow the story the cube spin here,
Speaker 2: I mean, I just said you know, you look at
Speaker 2: the three major religions, the Abrahamic religions in Abraham himself
Speaker 2: coming from Samare. But it's all the cube. I mean
Speaker 2: in where is the where's the central point in Saudi
Speaker 2: Arabia for the Mecca? How humans? And I'd like to
Speaker 2: bring up the interview you had with Ryan Uh the
Speaker 2: other day and where you' all brought up. He brought
Speaker 2: up the fact that the super Bowl halftime story, Uh,
Speaker 2: the thing was much much more deeper than anyone could
Speaker 2: probably have ever realized, and particularly if you didn't have
Speaker 2: an occult knowledge background. But this was about the cube.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the stage was set up in a Cuban And
Speaker 1: that's really interesting too. And shout out to Ryan because
Speaker 1: Ryan has done me. He had that all almost immediately
Speaker 1: after the super Bowl was over, Like I was talking
Speaker 1: to him on the phone, like really, we kind of
Speaker 1: watched it together, and he's very all he's got Like
Speaker 1: I don't even know how he does it, but he's
Speaker 1: not getting it from other people. He's he's written several
Speaker 1: books on occult theology and he's researched it and studied
Speaker 1: it so he can just point it out and spot
Speaker 1: it almost immediately. But as soon as the super Bowl
Speaker 1: was over, like I called him on the phone. I
Speaker 1: was like, what do you think? We'd already had the
Speaker 1: show planned out for like a month ago. I had
Speaker 1: already had that set up, but I didn't even realize
Speaker 1: that it was the day after the super Bowl. But
Speaker 1: I and he and I was like, hey, like, what
Speaker 1: do you think of that? That super Bowl thing? And
Speaker 1: he just like rattled off like all this stuff, and
Speaker 1: I was like, how did you How did you get
Speaker 1: all this when it was just ended like twenty minutes ago. Bro, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't understand how you had all
Speaker 1: that knowledge already ready in the chamber. But that's just
Speaker 1: a testament to you know, all the research and the
Speaker 1: things that he's done. I mean, he's been doing a
Speaker 1: show for like ten years now. But that makes sense
Speaker 1: a lot about the cross, right, because no one really
Speaker 1: understands why the cross is such an important role in Christianity.
Speaker 1: Like I've seen the memes several times where they're like
Speaker 1: what makes you believe that Jesus likes crosses? Like why
Speaker 1: are you worshiping Jesus with crosses?
Speaker 2: It makes it rather morbid if you think about it,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, yeah, but when you look.
Speaker 1: At the historical reference and to the crucifixion, you can't
Speaker 1: find anything outside of the Bible that points to a
Speaker 1: crucifixion of Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: So it's like, can I tell you why it's false,
Speaker 2: why it never happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The Greek word used in there is stake, and the
Speaker 2: time that this supposed state execution took place would have
Speaker 2: never been in a cross. It would have been in
Speaker 2: a stake. The hands would have been with a branch
Speaker 2: or something that would have held them up in the crucifixion.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but somehow from that we get the.
Speaker 3: Cross exactly the symbol of salvation, right, and is the
Speaker 3: cube because the across So the cue gives me, I mean,
Speaker 3: it breaks my ass out. So if everything is surrounding
Speaker 3: the cube, then it would make sense, is why the
Speaker 3: cross was a prominent figure for Christianity because it is
Speaker 3: essentially the cube. And there's images in that document that
Speaker 3: you sent me that has Jesus in the cube that's
Speaker 3: laid out and across it shows the perfect symmetry between
Speaker 3: Jesus and the cross and the cube laid out, So
Speaker 3: it makes sense that that would be the reason why
Speaker 3: it's it's so popular because it's all out the cube worship.
Speaker 3: That it's all about this this black cube cult.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know what, writer, when I was reading
Speaker 2: that document, in my mind was making reference so Star
Speaker 2: Trek next generation, right, the Borg and the board ship
Speaker 2: was a cube. There you go, there it does again,
Speaker 2: And I'm going, all right, So did Gene Roddenberry see
Speaker 2: something here that it took us thirty years later to
Speaker 2: figure out that this cube wherever it goes, it assimilates everywhere,
Speaker 2: and you will be assimulated regardless.
Speaker 1: Yeah. In other regards to the super Bowl halftime show
Speaker 1: that I didn't get a chance to talk about with
Speaker 1: Ryan or on any other show was the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five is the year of the snake, right, that is
Speaker 1: the Japanese Year of the snake. Well, not the Japanese
Speaker 1: but the what is it the China the Chinese zodiac. Sorry,
Speaker 1: it's the Chinese zodiac of the snake. And the entire
Speaker 1: performance is very snake like. All of the movements that
Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar is doing during the Super Bowl halftime show
Speaker 1: is slithery and snaky. He's bobbing his head back and forth,
Speaker 1: like this, he's really low to the ground. Whenever he's walking,
Speaker 1: he has his knees bent and he's snaking back and forth.
Speaker 1: And even in the pattern that they go whenever the
Speaker 1: wide shot comes out of the super Bowl stage and
Speaker 1: the backup dancers are walking through the center of the snage,
Speaker 1: they're walking in a snake like format. They're even walking
Speaker 1: like that, in like a very curvature type, and they're
Speaker 1: all in a line so they look like a snake.
Speaker 1: So they look like a snake, and they're doing movements
Speaker 1: like a snake. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow, all right, So there's so there's heavy occultism in here,
Speaker 2: but we all know that someone wrote that, Corey graphed it,
Speaker 2: and I'm sitting here going, so what are they trying
Speaker 2: to tell us? I mean, there's there's and so the
Speaker 2: riddle stands before us. What did you get for your interpretation?
Speaker 1: Well, I think there's a lot of different elements, and
Speaker 1: people have expanded on Ryan's decoding of it, and they've
Speaker 1: decoded it to that more literal like you know, everything
Speaker 1: that Samuel L. Jackson also talked about with him, because
Speaker 1: he was in there as like a side character as well.
Speaker 1: That was kind of you know, talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: introducing Kendrick Lamar and going in there and like saying
Speaker 1: any thing like deduct one life and all that, and
Speaker 1: then the disc with Drake and all that with the
Speaker 1: Lamar stuff and essentially saying that Drake killed xx Tin
Speaker 1: Kiachian or however you say his name, and that that
Speaker 1: was died a few years back, and that they're standing
Speaker 1: in the center of the X. Whenever this happens, then
Speaker 1: the the X X X, and then they're standing in
Speaker 1: the center of the AX. So people have kind of
Speaker 1: added on their own interpretation after you know, Ryan had
Speaker 1: essentially decoded it, and then because that's really the way
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff works, is like someone has
Speaker 1: a really good explanation for something, and then then others
Speaker 1: come in and then they add their own interpretation because
Speaker 1: then they're kind of jealous that they weren't the first
Speaker 1: ones to see it, so therefore they just kind of
Speaker 1: snowball it and be like, oh, well, that's not really
Speaker 1: what it's about, and blah blah blah blah blah, and
Speaker 1: then they give their their own thing when they're probably
Speaker 1: one off base. But there's a lot of like controlling
Speaker 1: aspects of it. You have the the PlayStation buttons. On
Speaker 1: the stage, you have the X, the circle, the square,
Speaker 1: the triangle, it's all there, and then in the background
Speaker 1: it continuously like flashes like game over. So my initial
Speaker 1: thoughts was that it was very pro America on the
Speaker 1: surface level. I mean, you had all of the people
Speaker 1: up there that was kind of dressed, and that's the
Speaker 1: entertainment side of it. That's like the surface level that
Speaker 1: they kind of want you to see, like, and then
Speaker 1: they have the game over like flashing in the background
Speaker 1: because you know, Trump became the president again and he's
Speaker 1: just doing all this stuff and Elon Musk is finding
Speaker 1: all this corruption within the government. So the surface level
Speaker 1: is that it's like game over for like corruption and
Speaker 1: we're going to bring America back to this this gold
Speaker 1: standard of living and bring in the Gold Age. And
Speaker 1: that's another thing that Ryan was mentioning in our show together, was,
Speaker 1: you know, the the gold Age of humanity. Whenever Trump
Speaker 1: first got inaugurated, he came out and said We're going
Speaker 1: to usher in the United States and the Golden Age.
Speaker 1: And he's at Caesar's Dome in New Orleans. Caesar was the.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I have it on my shorts that
Speaker 2: I did the video is Trump a modern day demigod?
Speaker 2: He passed the test of Hercules. You know, he faced
Speaker 2: death and you know I've said this, and I brought
Speaker 2: it up to the group here on Monday. I said, so,
Speaker 2: would you say that the Greeks were ignorant? Would you
Speaker 2: say that the Romans were ignorant? No, they weren't. They
Speaker 2: were extremely smart. They did things that we can't do today,
Speaker 2: even with all of our technology. And so they had
Speaker 2: this belief in this polytheism of these different type of
Speaker 2: gods and where the gods lived and the firmanent. I
Speaker 2: don't think they were making this stuff up. I believe
Speaker 2: that there were in fact, and I'm more convinced as
Speaker 2: the older I get that they never went away. They're here,
Speaker 2: always happened here. And this cube really kind of makes
Speaker 2: it interesting because it kind of gives you at least
Speaker 2: a potential reason why. You know, like Ryan when he
Speaker 2: saw that with the Super Bowl, I read Shakespeare. I've
Speaker 2: seen many different theatrical productions of Shakespeare, and each production
Speaker 2: was different, but it was the same story. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: that's how I see what Ryan saw. I mean, I
Speaker 2: immediately began to connect and against. You know, it depends
Speaker 2: on what type of lens you're seeing it, but we're
Speaker 2: so heavily occult minded here in our studies that Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it's just cube in the cube.
Speaker 1: In the black screen, right, And it talks about in
Speaker 1: that document too, It's like, why is everything like that
Speaker 1: involves our technology? Black?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Why is it all like and why is there no
Speaker 1: other shape? And then when you think about it too,
Speaker 1: the cube would also be what people think that the
Speaker 1: arc of the Covenant is enclosed in. It's enclosed in
Speaker 1: a black cubed box.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, oh, well, you know, why why is
Speaker 1: pizza boxes come in a square box? It doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense. Should they not come in like a T
Speaker 1: in the circle box in the shape of the pie?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm just looking at the footprint. This is
Speaker 2: the second temble we with a But I mean this
Speaker 2: is cube all over it. It has so many other
Speaker 2: functions as you can see. So this is not coincidence.
Speaker 2: This is what the point was. And that's why I'm
Speaker 2: so excited that you could come on and talk about this,
Speaker 2: because suddenly I saw it coming from so many different
Speaker 2: channels that we're all speaking on the same thing, and
Speaker 2: I'm going no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Coincidence
Speaker 2: doesn't happen like that. You know, there is something else happening,
Speaker 2: And is it the fact that I don't know? Is
Speaker 2: there something about to change? Is there change? We're living
Speaker 2: in rapid change right now. I mean, there's a reality
Speaker 2: out there that's controlled by what we perceive to be
Speaker 2: the government. Right, the government makes the laws and you
Speaker 2: comply your life according to those laws. You can live
Speaker 2: your life how you want. But there's change taking place.
Speaker 2: I said yesterday on the show with the Ladies Trina
Speaker 2: and Jenny that you know, we're seeing this change happening here.
Speaker 2: So is there something changing with this cube? Is is there?
Speaker 2: I mean, is this a natural part of the process
Speaker 2: because something fundamentally is changing to our reality?
Speaker 1: Do you remember back like two or three years ago,
Speaker 1: or even back further than that, a lot of the
Speaker 1: spiritual people were talking about like a bierfurcation that we
Speaker 1: were going to split from the well they related it
Speaker 1: more and like a spiritual term that we were that
Speaker 1: some people were going to ascend into the fourth year,
Speaker 1: the five year. Yeah, the earth was going to split
Speaker 1: into two and there was going to be like two
Speaker 1: different realities. It seems like that's exactly what we're experiencing now.
Speaker 1: But like on a fundamental level, it's not that we
Speaker 1: ascended into the fourth dimension or the fifth dimension or
Speaker 1: whatever it was that that is. But it seems like
Speaker 1: there's two separate realities that are going on at the
Speaker 1: exact same time. Here in our current reality, there's a
Speaker 1: large percentage of people that are on the Trump side
Speaker 1: and everything is great, Yeah, like Elon's out there exposing
Speaker 1: all this corruption and everything's awesome, and we're gonna be
Speaker 1: going into this new age, this golden age, just like
Speaker 1: Trump said. And then there's the other side. There's the
Speaker 1: Democrat side, where it's like, no matter what they do,
Speaker 1: they're doing something wrong and like they can never do
Speaker 1: anything right and everything. They're gonna take away our rights
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna shave my head and I'm gonna abstain
Speaker 1: from side all this stuff. And that seems to be
Speaker 1: the divide, that's the split, that's the bioifurcation of these
Speaker 1: two different timelines. So depending on which side you're on
Speaker 1: depends on what kind of reality that you have, and
Speaker 1: that goes down to exactly like what everyone had been
Speaker 1: talking about for several years, like leading up to this,
Speaker 1: they just had the wrong idea of exactly what it
Speaker 1: was going to be and how it was going to
Speaker 1: play out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I don't think anyone saw this coming. I
Speaker 2: mean I was talking to a friend who still works
Speaker 2: in DC and heavily involved in the structure down there,
Speaker 2: and she was saying that it's upside down. She says
Speaker 2: Wayne's She says it's rather comical in one way is
Speaker 2: because she says it's like in this and I'll quote her.
Speaker 2: She said, it's like everybody woke up one morning and
Speaker 2: the buildings were the same, but nothing else was. And
Speaker 2: she says everyone's kind of walking around in shock. And
Speaker 2: she says it's like they just don't know what to do.
Speaker 2: I said, I said, so let me share you with
Speaker 2: how I see this from the occult side. And I
Speaker 2: explained to her, I said, so, what would you believe
Speaker 2: if I told you that time had been broken? And
Speaker 2: she says, I've listened to enough of you. She says,
Speaker 2: all right, she says, I could I'll accept the premise.
Speaker 2: And I said, what if I told you that the
Speaker 2: fact is is that we're really jumping from one timeline
Speaker 2: to the other, and we are feeling the effects of it,
Speaker 2: and it's some adapt very quickly. Others have a complete rejection.
Speaker 2: And she says, that's the best explaination. She says, I can,
Speaker 2: I can, I can see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And even like Joe Rogan's talking about, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's using in a hypothetical metaphorical term, but he's also
Speaker 1: talking about this timeline switch and how we essentially switch
Speaker 1: timelines that we're on like a better path for humanity,
Speaker 1: because this would have been a complete and total disaster
Speaker 1: if one Trump would have been assassinated, and two if
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have been assassinated but he still lost the election,
Speaker 1: we would be living in a completely different, different reality
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, No matter which way you want to
Speaker 1: shake it up, no matter what your thoughts are and
Speaker 1: your opinions are of any political figures, no matter what
Speaker 1: you think of Elon Musk, doesn't matter. It's irrelevant. Reading
Speaker 1: on a completely different timeline, and I'm one hundred percent
Speaker 1: convinced that that timeline would not be good.
Speaker 2: I'm right there with you reading this book The History
Speaker 2: of God, and one of the subscribers recommended it. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Dear.
Speaker 2: But in there it talks about you can get in
Speaker 2: a point of meditation where you actually are opening up
Speaker 2: portals to these other realms, these others dimensioned. And what
Speaker 2: I found interesting was was that this one person was
Speaker 2: on a lay line of the earth and while they
Speaker 2: were in a meditative state, this portal opened up and
Speaker 2: there were you would we would call it alien UFO,
Speaker 2: and they were bringing a machine that was going to
Speaker 2: help this guy begin to attune his inner frequency. My
Speaker 2: point to all this is is that I believe that
Speaker 2: there is this rapid change and that we've had presidents before,
Speaker 2: We've had presidential you know, it's a change of government,
Speaker 2: but it's never been so profound as this. And trust
Speaker 2: me on this. They're going to bring in the religious
Speaker 2: aspect of it. And when that gets into it, holy crap.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know Trump has set up this new
Speaker 2: office called the Presidential Faith something and he has put
Speaker 2: Paula White in charge of that. And I told Lynn,
Speaker 2: because I know Paula, and I said, I said, if
Speaker 2: this is going where I think it's going to go,
Speaker 2: get ready for the real show. Because Paula comes from
Speaker 2: the background of speaking in tongues and calling down the
Speaker 2: angels and fighting the demons, and God's going to make
Speaker 2: you rich at the same time. So she fits right, and.
Speaker 1: That might not be super like a bad thing as
Speaker 1: long as like the religion and the ideology isn't pushed
Speaker 1: upon people like that believe that if people can do
Speaker 1: whatever they want, they can believe whatever they want. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to tell anybody how to believe or what
Speaker 1: they should do with their life. Like, as long as
Speaker 1: you're not pushing your ideology and your belief systems and
Speaker 1: you're speaking in tongues on me, you can do whatever you.
Speaker 2: Want goad tongues. You know, it's interesting because I know
Speaker 2: this is this is all wrapped up into the same thing.
Speaker 2: So we've got a man now who is at the
Speaker 2: pinnacle of power, and I see this thing from different lenses.
Speaker 2: I mean, politics is really the first religion, and it's
Speaker 2: highly structured. There are laws, and there's all this complicity
Speaker 2: and complication into it. But when I'm trying to bring
Speaker 2: my point to so we witnessed something and there's different opinions,
Speaker 2: but we witnessed a human being that was set for
Speaker 2: execution and in some freaky things, and we're talking time
Speaker 2: being slowed down to millions of a nanosecond coming through
Speaker 2: where something changed. I contend that there was an entity,
Speaker 2: beings of a higher realm and dimension who saw that
Speaker 2: history that you were just talking about. If this person
Speaker 2: had been removed from reality, in other words, assassinated right
Speaker 2: before the world as a sacrifice, the sacrifice was rejected.
Speaker 2: Now this is deep shit, folks. But if you look
Speaker 2: at this in a much higher plane, they were going
Speaker 2: to sacrifice this man as an offering to their god.
Speaker 2: That's what assassinations do. And it was rejected. And I
Speaker 2: told Lynn, I said, something here is much deeper. Here,
Speaker 2: I said, it's almost like you were witnessing a curse,
Speaker 2: because if you give an offering to a god and
Speaker 2: it's rejected, you know what you get back, a curse.
Speaker 2: So this man now was on the sacrificial altar face
Speaker 2: death within itself, rose off the altar, and now has
Speaker 2: ascended into a place that's even higher. And my question
Speaker 2: I often think about it is that, so are you
Speaker 2: telling me the gods are not involved in this? The goddesses?
Speaker 2: I mean, this is this is to me, it's much deeper,
Speaker 2: and it signifies a huge change. And I know, but
Speaker 2: it's all connected to the cube because it seems to
Speaker 2: be a predetermined program.
Speaker 1: Well, like speaking of assassins and things like that, the
Speaker 1: Islam Order, the Sulfie Order of Islam, they would use
Speaker 1: drugs to essentially create their assassin, so which is essentially
Speaker 1: like what the MK ultra mind control Mantorian candidate assassins are.
Speaker 1: They essentially drug them and have them go on and
Speaker 1: like essentially do their bidding, which there's a lot of
Speaker 1: other factors to play a role in there as well.
Speaker 1: But where it started was in Islam, and they would
Speaker 1: use this drug called Hashi and they would knock them
Speaker 1: out and they after they would give them the drug
Speaker 1: that would then pass out. Then they would like take
Speaker 1: them to an area that was like the Garden of Eden, right,
Speaker 1: and they would call it like Paradise, and they have
Speaker 1: all these attractive women around them. And that's essentially where
Speaker 1: we get the seventy seven virgins and these beautiful women
Speaker 1: like it all comes from drugging these individuals and then
Speaker 1: taking them to this area that the masters and the
Speaker 1: people at the top of this Hashish order have an
Speaker 1: area where they drug them and then take them and
Speaker 1: then they make them believe that this area is like,
Speaker 1: you know, a paradise, right and filled with attractive young
Speaker 1: virgins or made them believe that they were virgins or whatever,
Speaker 1: and then they would knock them back out with the
Speaker 1: hashish and when they would wake up, all that stuff
Speaker 1: was gone because they just picked up their body and
Speaker 1: took them to wherever it was that they took the
Speaker 1: drug to begin with, and all the women are gone.
Speaker 1: And then a man comes in and says that you
Speaker 1: know that was that was paradise, guys, with all the
Speaker 1: visions and the beautiful women in the Garden of Eden,
Speaker 1: right yeah. And he's essentially like, oh, well, if you
Speaker 1: want to return back to the Garden of Eden in
Speaker 1: this amazing paradise, and you need to serve the Assassin
Speaker 1: Order and you need to do our bidding for us,
Speaker 1: when in them not knowing that the entire thing was
Speaker 1: completely staged. All the women were like real women, they
Speaker 1: were just on drugs. And then and then Jim Jones
Speaker 1: also did something very similar to that as well. I
Speaker 1: just had Melissa don on She's talking about how Jim
Speaker 1: Jones would perform. He would essentially drug a woman and
Speaker 1: then he would put a cast on them or make
Speaker 1: them think that they broke their leg or their arm
Speaker 1: or whatever. And then when they would wake up from
Speaker 1: being drugged, they would then Jim and the congregation would
Speaker 1: convince them that they fell and hurt themselves, that's why
Speaker 1: they were passed out, and they had put a cast
Speaker 1: on their leg, and then he would strut them out
Speaker 1: in front of the entire congregation and then like pretend
Speaker 1: to heal them and then but their leg was never
Speaker 1: broken to begin with, and then they just get up
Speaker 1: and walk. It's it's an ancient, old technique that has
Speaker 1: been going on way back in like Islamic times, in
Speaker 1: the times of the Assassin, and it's a really easy
Speaker 1: way to like fool people. I mean, if you I mean,
Speaker 1: it's essentially stage magic, is what it is. And I
Speaker 1: mean if you were drugged and then you know you're
Speaker 1: living back in this time, and then whenever you wake up,
Speaker 1: the environment is completely different. It's all foresty, and it
Speaker 1: seems like a freaking paradise, and all these beautiful women
Speaker 1: that you're probably not used to ever seeing is all
Speaker 1: around you, like you're gonna think that you're in heaven.
Speaker 2: I'm laughing because I've smoked some opium when I woke
Speaker 2: up and it was Yeah, it was two sisters anyway,
Speaker 2: But I can tell you what. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it was paradise, but it was interesting. I know exactly
Speaker 2: where you're coming from, all right, Yeah, it was probably
Speaker 2: under the influence of that damn cube too.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's interesting because you know, as I think of the cube,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's how they gave us the polio vaccine
Speaker 2: was in a cube of sugar, you know, and just
Speaker 2: the cube. It's everywhere. It's all I got to say.
Speaker 2: I mean, and no matter how many different side tracks
Speaker 2: we get into this thing, it's just merely tentacles of
Speaker 2: the core. It all comes back to this, it really does.
Speaker 2: And I'm convinced writer that there is a portion of
Speaker 2: the population that indeed there is something transformative taking place.
Speaker 2: I'm convinced of that. You can't keep the same energy
Speaker 2: on a the knowledge that we consistently seek here we
Speaker 2: listen to channels like yours, and and then there's so
Speaker 2: many others and where we're learning, where we're taking this
Speaker 2: and and primarily much of it is a cult based.
Speaker 2: It's it's knowledge that hasn't been you know, it's not
Speaker 2: going to be taught in your your schools, and it's
Speaker 2: certainly not going to be taught in your Sunday schools.
Speaker 2: This is why I appreciate the platform, is that it's
Speaker 2: an opportunity to bring this knowledge out and then it
Speaker 2: allows and once you're exposed to it, there ain't no
Speaker 2: going back. I don't know how you could. Lenn and
Speaker 2: my wife and I were talking. You know, we were
Speaker 2: invited to church and I just said, you know, we
Speaker 2: had we told the couple, no, there's not nothing nothing.
Speaker 2: We want to be gentle. You know. The next thing,
Speaker 2: you know, they're going to think you're Satanist and U
Speaker 2: and I've been accused of that, but yeah, anyway, and
Speaker 2: it's true. Uh, you once you have this knowledge, you
Speaker 2: just you just can't. I I told a person, I'd
Speaker 2: be very uncomfortable. It's like, and if I heard a
Speaker 2: preacher preaching something, I'm not the type to be to
Speaker 2: sit down and to say that's bullshit. And that's when
Speaker 2: they're going to get me to left foot a fellowship.
Speaker 2: That's exactly too.
Speaker 1: Whenever I'm confronted by an extremely religious person, which I've
Speaker 1: talked about it a few times, I was kind of
Speaker 1: confronted by a gentleman and my gym inside of the sauna.
Speaker 2: And no, that's real comfortable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like this is like a place for peace
Speaker 1: and like just chilling. And then me and my girlfriend
Speaker 1: are in there and we're the only two people in
Speaker 1: there besides this other guy and he and he just randomly, so,
Speaker 1: do you believe in Jesus Christ? Do you believe in
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ as your personal savior? And obviously he's like
Speaker 1: profiling us because my girlfriend's got a lot of tattoos
Speaker 1: and I have like tattoos on my left arm and
Speaker 1: I have a tattoo of Jesus on my left arm.
Speaker 1: He's literally right here, and I was like, oh, you
Speaker 1: mean this Jesus And I just like showed him my
Speaker 1: arm and then he was like yeah that. Then he
Speaker 1: just like kept going on and on, and I told
Speaker 1: him several times like I'm not interested, Like I don't
Speaker 1: want to listen to like what you're saying. And then
Speaker 1: I finally like just like kind of like put him
Speaker 1: in his place. And then I, like my girlfriend was
Speaker 1: like feeling uncomfortable, and I was like like I'm not
Speaker 1: going to sit there and like let him talk to
Speaker 1: me about things that I know is one percent pure
Speaker 1: fiction and it is like made up, nonsensical garbage, Like
Speaker 1: I'm going to stand up to that. And I was like,
Speaker 1: sorry if that made you feel uncomfortable, but that's just
Speaker 1: like the type of person that I am, Like, I
Speaker 1: gotta say something.
Speaker 2: I admire your your ability to restrain yourself, I mean
Speaker 2: and keep the you know, the higher road way to go,
Speaker 2: my friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just like so so encoreable. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what makes people believe that that they like have the
Speaker 1: right to even do that, like, and and the judgment
Speaker 1: that comes from that, because you're essentially saying that you're
Speaker 1: on a pedestal because you believe in Jesus and Jesus's
Speaker 1: your savior and you go to church two to three
Speaker 1: times a week or however many times you go to church,
Speaker 1: you're essentially saying that you're better than everybody else that doesn't.
Speaker 1: And that's judgment. That's one percent judgment. So the people
Speaker 1: that say that you shouldn't judge others are the ones
Speaker 1: that are doing all of the judging.
Speaker 2: And the Jesus cat he wrote it down. He says,
Speaker 2: by the measure that you judge judges judge that you
Speaker 2: judge others, so shall you be judged?
Speaker 1: And I was like one of my points to it,
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, like, so, so you're trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, preach to me about this Jesus figure because
Speaker 1: you think that you're so much better than the other
Speaker 1: people that don't believe in Jesus. Like it doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense, Like.
Speaker 2: And you've got it, goes see. I would have loved
Speaker 2: to have been in there, but double time. Oh man,
Speaker 2: he walked out, you know, going oh man, I mean,
Speaker 2: doesn't make the man. But uh, it's it's because even
Speaker 2: within Christianity, they can't agree to what Jesus. I mean,
Speaker 2: the controversy of joel Ostein preaching a false Jesus or
Speaker 2: Apollo White preaching a false Jesus to Franklin Graham's Jesus.
Speaker 2: There's all these different diferent jesus Is within the religion,
Speaker 2: but they each have a different perception and standard of
Speaker 2: what that Jesus is. So I kind of go, well,
Speaker 2: which Jesus are you talking about? Well, there's only one Jesus,
Speaker 2: says who.
Speaker 1: That was one of the first things that I said.
Speaker 1: I was like, what God are you say Jesus. I
Speaker 1: was like, what God or what are you referring to?
Speaker 1: I was like, there's many gods in the Bible.
Speaker 2: They don't like hearing that.
Speaker 1: No, there's like the God, the one, the all creator thing. Go.
Speaker 2: I mean, and I've said it, do you believe in God? Yes?
Speaker 2: I believe in God. I just don't believe in your God.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like that's what they want though. They want you
Speaker 1: to believe exactly the way. And I'm very fortunate and
Speaker 1: very lucky that those types of people are like few
Speaker 1: and far between that you don't really run into them
Speaker 1: very often. A very rare occurrence.
Speaker 2: No, I guess I have that that that mark on me.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like, oh God, he did some cheeses.
Speaker 1: But that's like their whole thing is like they want
Speaker 1: to prophesy to you. What's that called when you're speaking.
Speaker 2: Prophecy? Yeah, it's it's yeah, you go to another country.
Speaker 1: Though there's a different word for where you go to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: evangelical evangelical eyes or something like that.
Speaker 2: Okay, evangelicals like prostializing.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's it. That's the word, and that's their
Speaker 1: Their whole thing is like They're like, oh, well, I
Speaker 1: don't want you to go to hell. And I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: if you're still believing in this heaven and Hell dichotomy
Speaker 1: of belief system, then you got nothing for me, Bud,
Speaker 1: like so so low on the total pole right now.
Speaker 1: I am like, I don't think you have any idea
Speaker 1: who you're talking to, and and uh, it's just it's
Speaker 1: just crazy how much it's like being and that is
Speaker 1: still in this light day and age like there there's
Speaker 1: still those types of people and like have you you
Speaker 1: guys like not learned, like you're lesson by now, like you,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's weird. But luckily that that's
Speaker 1: like once in a blue moon that anything like that happens.
Speaker 1: And I don't go near around churches either, and so
Speaker 1: it's so I just can completely stay away from it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would. It's been a long time and and it.
Speaker 1: Gets back to you in a church though way, and.
Speaker 2: They would they would have oh yeah, yeah, you'd be
Speaker 2: having people standing up and saying, get out of him, Savel,
Speaker 2: get that devil out of here.
Speaker 1: We got to baptize this man right now, bring out
Speaker 1: the water.
Speaker 2: Well, I just start speaking in tongues and then that
Speaker 2: that would just say he's possessed.
Speaker 1: Oh couple speaking in tongues. I think that's really interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't think that if anything is close to a
Speaker 1: sort of godly language, I mean, it seems like that
Speaker 1: it would be, you know, speaking in tongues. I mean,
Speaker 1: I have nothing against any of that stuff.
Speaker 2: I do it often, you know, but I don't do
Speaker 2: it as you know, something that is to be. You know,
Speaker 2: for me, it's a very private thing, and it's one
Speaker 2: that I find for myself. It's a kind of a
Speaker 2: form of meditation, and it's interesting and sometimes I can
Speaker 2: actually interpret what I'm saying, but other times it's yeah, cube, man,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you folks, it's the cube. That's all I
Speaker 2: got to tell you. Lady Ellie says, yeah, it's the
Speaker 2: language of the angels. It's and you know, I don't
Speaker 2: think that the spirit world speaks or thinks in English.
Speaker 2: I just don't. I mean, you know, you pass over
Speaker 2: from this life into the next realm, and they're gonna go, uh,
Speaker 2: and so what language do you speak? English? And you
Speaker 2: go over there to the right, another one coming, you know,
Speaker 2: and then you get over the section where they all
Speaker 2: the English spirits are at and you find out there's
Speaker 2: many different dialects within the English and so you're going
Speaker 2: to get separated further. No, I don't think so, which.
Speaker 1: Then becomes a place of segregation when it.
Speaker 2: Was in, isn't that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And now we have something to divide us. Not gonna
Speaker 2: have above, so below.
Speaker 1: So we're divided in.
Speaker 2: And it's the uh. It's the famous proverb. You know,
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