Speaker 1: The money systems there to keep you in scarcity. It
Speaker 1: is to deprive you of all the abundance that you're
Speaker 1: surrounded by. That's what it's for. I mean, money doesn't
Speaker 1: provide wealth. Health is wealth, and friendship is wealth. A
Speaker 1: good environment to live in this is wealth. You know,
Speaker 1: a comfortable place to be. But money is put there
Speaker 1: to provide a situation of artificial scarcity, whereby you've got
Speaker 1: to work and exploit the earth and you believe your
Speaker 1: own things. You have work to pay off a piece
Speaker 1: of anks. You can't just wander around everywhere. And the
Speaker 1: tribal people used to be, like the American Indians used
Speaker 1: to go wherever the food was, wherever the seasons were good.
Speaker 1: They just nomadic sort of a lifestyle. You can't just
Speaker 1: do that sort of thing. You've got to do this
Speaker 1: and have the white picket fans and two point four
Speaker 1: kids and all this sort of stuff. You've got to
Speaker 1: work so that you can get to the top of
Speaker 1: the pile. And that's what the money system's for, is
Speaker 1: to provide scarcity. And it's an interesting thing because it's
Speaker 1: like a spell as well. As soon as you start
Speaker 1: collecting money, you want more. You might think, gee, I
Speaker 1: really wish I could save up five thousand dollars, and
Speaker 1: you do it, and you find that you can just
Speaker 1: leave that sit there and you don't really need it.
Speaker 1: You know, well, I wonder if I can make it
Speaker 1: ten thousand, and then when gee, I did, you know,
Speaker 1: then you just keep going once you get a million dollars,
Speaker 1: thinking well, I wonder if I can get two million,
Speaker 1: or if I can get ten million, you know, and
Speaker 1: it just sits there. It's like this weird thing, and
Speaker 1: you once you start collecting it, you've never got enough.
Speaker 1: And it's all there too, so that you'll never have scarcity,
Speaker 1: you know, because you think that money will stop that
Speaker 1: from ever occurring. But they can switch the value of
Speaker 1: it on and off anytime they want, and you live
Speaker 1: in a world of abundance, but you're forced to pay
Speaker 1: to be alive because of the lack of energy, lack
Speaker 1: of free energy, all the stuff they took from us.
Speaker 1: I mean, everything we really collect money for is to
Speaker 1: power your house, is to put a roof over your head,
Speaker 1: to put fuel in your car, to be able to
Speaker 1: get from it, to be all this stuff. It's all
Speaker 1: about energy exchange, and that's what money is, and it's
Speaker 1: just a talisman for control really. So it's an amazing
Speaker 1: thing and it's something that most people would never think
Speaker 1: about where it comes from. It's just something that's just
Speaker 1: part of their lives. You've just got to have this stuff.
Speaker 1: But then everything why and where it actually came from
Speaker 1: and what purpose it serves. And the purpose it serves
Speaker 1: is to provide scarcely a suppose and.
Speaker 2: Then you know, couple that with this built in hardwired
Speaker 2: negativity that is you know, around all the time. And
Speaker 2: I think that this is a sort of self defense mechanism,
Speaker 2: you know, like and it blows my mind, Max when
Speaker 2: you know, if you if you're driving down the road
Speaker 2: and you see a beautiful rainbow, right, people just tend
Speaker 2: to drive past it. They don't admire the beauty of it.
Speaker 2: But if you see a car accident on the side
Speaker 2: of the road, you slow down to check it out.
Speaker 2: I believe that this is, you know, some kind of
Speaker 2: built in survival mechanism that we subconsciously have kept compounding
Speaker 2: upon that we want fear and pain and anger and negativity,
Speaker 2: so that's what we constantly keep attracting in our lives.
Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we've tended to glorify Gore in our societies
Speaker 1: with Hollywood and the movies and that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: And I mean often a lot of people feel bad
Speaker 1: enough in their own lives. They enjoy seeing someone else
Speaker 1: sort of messed up on the side of the road
Speaker 1: because it's not them, you know. So there's that as well.
Speaker 1: But Tom, you know, it's always horror movies and Hollywood
Speaker 1: and the programming, and they're just putting that in people's minds.
Speaker 1: That's sociopathic, you know, finding that that little spark of
Speaker 1: sociopathy that exists in most people and nurturing it and
Speaker 1: helping it grow. That's what our society has done. That's
Speaker 1: what Hollywood's done. And that's what our education system's done.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the education system. The way what they
Speaker 1: the way they repress emotions and repress your personalities so much,
Speaker 1: anything like that. It is Yeah, yeah, give me more
Speaker 1: of that, Give me God. I mean, a lot of
Speaker 1: people are sorry, repressed in said the deep inside. They
Speaker 1: just want this world to explore. They want to they
Speaker 1: want to come up to hit, they want to say
Speaker 1: the big disaster. They want to they want the disaster
Speaker 1: movie to really happen because anything to break them out
Speaker 1: of this mundane so you get a little bit of goal,
Speaker 1: that's that little you know, it breaks them antony for
Speaker 1: them a little bit, so programming, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And speaking of you know, negativity and stuff, I
Speaker 2: think that a big problem that that we face two
Speaker 2: Maxim And I've heard you say this, and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: quite another few people say this, and I've you know,
Speaker 2: spoken too, is that we don't know who we are, right,
Speaker 2: and we only identify with things around us, right, the
Speaker 2: tangible things around us that you know, we've bought into
Speaker 2: in this world. You know, we're we're given a birthday,
Speaker 2: we're given a social security number, and given a set
Speaker 2: of rules and what to believe and how to act
Speaker 2: and what to think and how to be, and we
Speaker 2: collect all this this shit, Maxim. We're told that that's success, right,
Speaker 2: and then we identify with those things so deeply, and
Speaker 2: then we constantly keep reverting back to them, no matter
Speaker 2: the opposing thoughts or ideas. And then un coupled with that,
Speaker 2: we have people around us that's constantly reinforcing the exact
Speaker 2: same illusion, right, because they were taught and shown the
Speaker 2: exact same things and I think that this is a
Speaker 2: huge collective issue, a blanketed system, just like you were
Speaker 2: talking about with the school. They want to blanket everybody
Speaker 2: with a certain curriculum, and if you step outside of
Speaker 2: that box, you start asking certain kinds of questions, then you're,
Speaker 2: you know, considered a black sheep, You're considered somebody that
Speaker 2: nobody wants to be around. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, people are very complex, you know, the
Speaker 1: human mind is very complex, and basically people want to
Speaker 1: feel like they have value, there's some meaning to their life.
Speaker 1: A lot of this is taken out of them during
Speaker 1: their childhood. You know, they're separated from their parents a lot.
Speaker 1: You know, they're not breastfed. You know, they're born in
Speaker 1: a hospital. You know, they're programmed by their parents into
Speaker 1: what it is to be a child and what it
Speaker 1: means to be a lot because they're born into a
Speaker 1: program or a program society, So they're indocunated by their
Speaker 1: parents before they even get to school. School tries to
Speaker 1: homogenize people as much as possible, find whatever creative verge
Speaker 1: is that the kids have gotten stamped out out, get
Speaker 1: them all thinking, you know, exactly the way society wants
Speaker 1: them to think, and they come out of society and
Speaker 1: they're given a set of parameters and things to measure
Speaker 1: themselves by. You know, how successful economically are basically, are
Speaker 1: you beautiful? Are you wearring to write fashions? You know?
Speaker 1: Are you economically successful? Not whether are you a warrior?
Speaker 1: Can you look after you a woman? Are you a good woman?
Speaker 1: You can lead your man on a spiritual path? You know, not,
Speaker 1: none of that sort of stuff. It's all about these
Speaker 1: misconceptions of what success is. And you're told that you
Speaker 1: need to collect all this money so you can get
Speaker 1: to the top of the pile, because when you get there,
Speaker 1: the world's your oyster. And people go through this whole
Speaker 1: corporate process to get to that place, and when they
Speaker 1: get there, there's nothing there. It's the same. The whole
Speaker 1: world has been homogenized, so anywhere you go it's the
Speaker 1: same as everywhere else. It doesn't matter what society. You
Speaker 1: go to Italy, you'll find Starbucks and McDonald's. Go to Tibet,
Speaker 1: you'll find Starbucks on McDonald's. Go to Peru, you'll find
Speaker 1: Starbucks on McDonald's. Mean, everywhere you go, you know, you
Speaker 1: find the same cafe. It's the same thing. They've turned
Speaker 1: everywhere into everywhere else. So they've taken all creative input
Speaker 1: out of society and all creative input. What can we
Speaker 1: do to be creative individuals within this society can do
Speaker 1: is try to aspire to some of those parameters that
Speaker 1: the society is given to us. And we've got no
Speaker 1: clue where we came from, what our real history is,
Speaker 1: what we're even doing here, and we're given all of
Speaker 1: these misconceptions of what success is. So this is what
Speaker 1: you get. I mean, this is the result. And most
Speaker 1: people inside they know there's something more, but they don't
Speaker 1: even know how to express it. I mean, they've taken
Speaker 1: our language from us. There's no words in English to
Speaker 1: express spirituality or spiritual concepts. You know. English is a
Speaker 1: really mechanical, really commercial, it's the language of slavery. I
Speaker 1: could write a whole thesis to explain the word dama
Speaker 1: to someone if I was speaking Hindia. I just got
Speaker 1: to say dama. They know what it means in every
Speaker 1: aspect of the word, you know. So there's things like that.
Speaker 1: They've taken so much of us from us that it's
Speaker 1: very difficult for even when people have these spiritual notions
Speaker 1: and these spiritual feelings, so don't know how to prove
Speaker 1: into words because the words don't exist in our language.
Speaker 1: We know we feel these things, we don't even know
Speaker 1: how to say it. It's one of the cruelest things
Speaker 1: that's ever been done to humankind is to take our
Speaker 1: language from us. So you know, we can't even we
Speaker 1: can't even understand these concepts that we want to express.
Speaker 1: You know, makes it very difficult to try to have
Speaker 1: relationships for people or anything because you can't explain yourself proper.
Speaker 1: You know what you feel and you just expect other
Speaker 1: people to feel it. And it's the same with success.
Speaker 1: It's the same with what you're going to measure yourself.
Speaker 1: You know in this society, know what you want to be.
Speaker 1: You want to be something of value. Your parents never
Speaker 1: loved you, the society never loved you. You never felt
Speaker 1: like you had any worth. You've got to get to
Speaker 1: one of these things that they tell you what it
Speaker 1: is to be a great successful human being. It's going
Speaker 1: to be like one of those people on the TV
Speaker 1: or have one of those relationships that you're seeing on
Speaker 1: the TV. All this programming and stuff that they feed people.
Speaker 1: So I mean, it's no wonder. You know, if people
Speaker 1: could just step away and go into the forest and
Speaker 1: just grow up in the forest and learn to be
Speaker 1: human again, they'll find themselves. But having no knowledge of
Speaker 1: our past is a really difficult thing, having no knowledge
Speaker 1: of our history and where we really came from, because
Speaker 1: what we're fed is simply not true. And the evidence,
Speaker 1: that's evidence right around the world. If you just look
Speaker 1: at the world with the right eyes, if you're well
Speaker 1: traveled enough, which i am, you can look around the
Speaker 1: place that you can discover. None of this makes sense.
Speaker 1: They couldn't have built all this stuff that they I mean,
Speaker 1: even some of the buildings that you've got in San Francisco,
Speaker 1: and shit, it's any of these were built by horse
Speaker 1: drawn carts back in the eighteen hundreds, of hammers and
Speaker 1: channels and stuff. No, no way where they built without technology.
Speaker 1: It takes technology to build out all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: Just not the type of technology we've got now. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: the world was a very very different place not long ago.