Speaker 1: It's with Dan ray On Dell Boston.
Speaker 2: All right. Our second topic tonight is from California. But
Speaker 2: what happens in California eventually happens in Massachusetts. And sometimes
Speaker 2: what happens in California happens very quickly in Massachusetts. So
Speaker 2: for those of you who are interested Amsterdam, Amsterdam, you
Speaker 2: know that's in the Netherlands. Amsterdam style cannabis cafes have
Speaker 2: just become legal in California. This is a press release
Speaker 2: today September thirtieth, twenty twenty four, the governor, Governor Newsom.
Speaker 2: Governor Gavin Newsom has signed a bill in California that
Speaker 2: allows local California governments to license Amsterdam style cannabis cafes. Now,
Speaker 2: I've been to Amsterdam, but I've never been in a
Speaker 2: cannabis cafe. I'm sure some of you may have been.
Speaker 2: And I don't know what is meant by a cannabis cafe,
Speaker 2: but I think what they mean is a place we
Speaker 2: can go and you can smoke smoke pot. Okay, Now,
Speaker 2: we have bars at Massachusetts. Okay, we got plenty of
Speaker 2: bars at Massachusetts. I'm sure some of you yesterday might
Speaker 2: have been watching the Patriots lose to the forty nine
Speaker 2: ers at one of your local watering holes, and you
Speaker 2: go there to this year commiserate. Other years celebrate, but
Speaker 2: you got commiserate about what's going on with the Patriots.
Speaker 2: All right. Do you remember in Massachusetts several years ago
Speaker 2: when we legalized or decriminalized medical marijuana. We said, well,
Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of people who suffer from
Speaker 2: various and sundry causes medical problems, and many people suffer
Speaker 2: from anxiety, PTSD, whatever, and they find relief with marijuana.
Speaker 2: And so the legislature in Massachusetts said, well, that's a
Speaker 2: reasonable idea. Will give them the right to get medical marijuana.
Speaker 2: Have to have a prescription, okay from a doctor, and
Speaker 2: you can't smoke it on the streets. You got to
Speaker 2: be able to go home and smoke it at home.
Speaker 2: And that's all they wanted. That's all what the medical
Speaker 2: marijuana people wanted. No problem. Then a couple of years
Speaker 2: passed and they said, well, you know, why is it
Speaker 2: that only people who are suffering from anxiety. We all
Speaker 2: have anxiety or suffering from some form of PTSD. We
Speaker 2: all have been through things in our lives, and if
Speaker 2: it's good for some people. It's good for everyone. So
Speaker 2: then we decriminalized and in effect legalized marijuana. Now in Massachusetts,
Speaker 2: you got to you should buy your marijuana through a
Speaker 2: marijua on a store, okay, because that way the state
Speaker 2: gets a piece of the action. In addition, what the
Speaker 2: state says to you is, well, we make sure that
Speaker 2: the marijuana isn't bad stuff, meaning it's somewhat controlled. Of course,
Speaker 2: there's also we found out last week from our friends
Speaker 2: up at Maine Wire in the state of Maine, there's
Speaker 2: about two hundred and seventy illegal plotforms being run up
Speaker 2: there by people who are associated or affiliated or have
Speaker 2: funding from the Chinese Communist Party the government of China.
Speaker 2: That's the Chinese Communist Party. We have the Democratic Party
Speaker 2: and the Republican Party. The Chinese only has one party,
Speaker 2: it's called the Communist Party. So now in Massachusetts, hey, hey,
Speaker 2: you could buy marijuana. As long as you're not walking
Speaker 2: down the street with it, you're okay. You just bring
Speaker 2: it home and you smoke it whatever you need. Your
Speaker 2: friends come over, you have a great time. No anxieties whatsoever,
Speaker 2: no PTSD. Well, what's next? What's next is what I'm
Speaker 2: holding in my hand and that's the press release from California.
Speaker 2: They're going to have Amsterdam Amsterdam style cannabis cafes now,
Speaker 2: According to this press release, in the Netherlands, Amsterdam's cannabis
Speaker 2: cafes thrive as part of the city's unique social structure
Speaker 2: and capitalizes on the social nature of cannabis through coffee, food,
Speaker 2: and live music, all opportunities that are currently illegal. Under
Speaker 2: California law AB seventeen seventy five will allow cannabis retailers
Speaker 2: to diversify their businesses and move away from the struggling
Speaker 2: and limited dispensary model by selling non cabinist, non cannabis
Speaker 2: infused foods, whatever the hell that means. So the state assemblymen,
Speaker 2: who now is the hero to the marijuana community in California, said,
Speaker 2: lots of people want to enjoy legal care cannabis in
Speaker 2: the company of others. I remember you could have your
Speaker 2: friends over and took up at home, but nope, and
Speaker 2: many people want to do that while sipping coffee, eating
Speaker 2: a sandwiche, or listening to music, all of which you
Speaker 2: could do at your home. You can make coffee at home,
Speaker 2: you can eat a sandwich at home, you can listen
Speaker 2: to music at home with your friends that is now
Speaker 2: finally legal in California, and there's no doubt that cannabis
Speaker 2: cafes will bring massive economic, cultural, and creative opportunities and
Speaker 2: benefits to our state. California is once again leading the
Speaker 2: way and supporting legal, safe cannabis businesses and culture. Good
Speaker 2: for them. A previous version of the bill AB three
Speaker 2: seventy four was veto last year by Governor Newsom, who
Speaker 2: urged in his veto message to reintroduce the bill to
Speaker 2: include more protections for cannabis workers. I have no idea
Speaker 2: what that means. Let's see this year. I guess he's
Speaker 2: considered that people who work in cannabis cafes might get
Speaker 2: you know, contact high or something. This this Assembly member
Speaker 2: introduced the bill with the support of the United Commercial
Speaker 2: and Food Workers to ensure cannabis lounge workers are protected
Speaker 2: from secondhand smoke impacts at work. Exactly what I thought.
Speaker 2: The bill levels the plague field for the highly taxed
Speaker 2: and regulated legal cannabis industry that's being forced to compete
Speaker 2: in California with a thriving cannabis black market. So even
Speaker 2: though they legalized it in California, thank god, there's a
Speaker 2: thriving cannabis black market going on. Remember they told us, well,
Speaker 2: there'll be no more black market on't you make itllegal? Right? Oh?
Speaker 2: I guess not. The illegal sale of cannabis is extremely
Speaker 2: profitable in California, with illegal sellers choosing to simply ignore
Speaker 2: costly red regulations, product testing, permitting, in taxation. California's legal
Speaker 2: cannabis sales reached four billion in twenty twenty, while oh,
Speaker 2: the illegal sales reached four billion in twenty twenty. Well,
Speaker 2: illegal sales are believed to have sevested eight billion that
Speaker 2: same year. So even though they made it legal twice
Speaker 2: more is illegal. Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. Right now,
Speaker 2: our small cannabis businesses are struggling to compete against illegal
Speaker 2: drug sellers that don't follow the law of paid taxes.
Speaker 2: In order to ensure the legal cannabis market can survive
Speaker 2: and thrive in California, that's the top priority. We have
Speaker 2: to allow them to adapt, innovate, and offer products and
Speaker 2: experiences that customers want. And who knows, maybe a little
Speaker 2: LSD will throw in there. I don't know. That's my comment.
Speaker 2: Cannabis cafes are going to be a huge part of
Speaker 2: the future of cannabis in our state and help to
Speaker 2: beat back the illegal drug market. Thank god, assemble Manhany.
Speaker 2: You were beating back the illegal drug market by making
Speaker 2: it legal, but you're losing the battle. Unbelievable. The bill
Speaker 2: goes into effect on January first, and with the approval
Speaker 2: from local governments, Californian should be able to enjoy cannabis
Speaker 2: cafes as early as the new year. Wow. Wow, California
Speaker 2: should be excited for the jobs, culture, and tourism that
Speaker 2: cannabis cafes are going to bring to our state. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: oh yeah. All right, So here's my question. How soon
Speaker 2: is it since since California on January first, twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: we'll have cannabis cafes legal. Everything's fine, okay, how long
Speaker 2: before it's in Massachusetts? Six months, a year, sixteen months,
Speaker 2: two years? I bet it's going to be a lot
Speaker 2: quicker than we realize. The thing that's great about cannabis cafes,
Speaker 2: and I say this with my tongue planted squarely in cheek,
Speaker 2: is one of the things. Of Course, everyone's going to
Speaker 2: have a can cafe on their corner, so there'd be
Speaker 2: no one who'll be driving anywhere to a cannabis cafe. Right. Wrong.
Speaker 2: There'll be a lot of people driving who will have
Speaker 2: smoked before they go and come when they come back,
Speaker 2: and there's no way to detect for marijuana. They haven't.
Speaker 2: They know how to protect, how to detect for alcohol,
Speaker 2: but nothing for marijuana. Nothing for marijuana. Man, Is is
Speaker 2: this a good thing for the country. I don't think
Speaker 2: it is. But I guess I'm old fashioned. I'd love
Speaker 2: to know what you think. I mean, give me a break.
Speaker 2: You said you want it for medical purposes, great, you
Speaker 2: got it. You want it for use to use it
Speaker 2: in your home, in the privacy of your home, you
Speaker 2: got it. You want it to be sold legally and
Speaker 2: be used in the privacy, you got it. But No,
Speaker 2: in California, they kept pushing. They kept pushing, and they're
Speaker 2: gonna keep pushing, and they're gonna start pushing in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: Want to open up the phone line six one seven
Speaker 2: for ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: If you think that cannabis cafes are going to be
Speaker 2: good for Massachusetts, give me a call. Give me a call,
Speaker 2: because if you do, I have a bridge in Brooklyn.
Speaker 2: I'd like to be able to sell you a share
Speaker 2: in what is going on. I mean, it's coming here.
Speaker 2: Trust me on that. At this point it's too late
Speaker 2: to stop it. And if you're a big proponent of it, fine,
Speaker 2: explain to me why I'm wrong. Okay. All it is
Speaker 2: doing is introducing another legal intoxicant out there for people
Speaker 2: to imbibe in it. We don't have enough drunks in
Speaker 2: the road. We don't have enough people who are high
Speaker 2: on the road. We need more people on the road
Speaker 2: who are high, who are drunk, or who are illegal.
Speaker 2: That's what it is in Massachusetts. But if you allow
Speaker 2: your automobile registration to go more than like a week,
Speaker 2: they'll pull you over and write a ticket for you
Speaker 2: because they want you what is wrong with this state
Speaker 2: right now? Uh? And I'm telling you it's coming here.
Speaker 2: And if you don't believe me, and you want to
Speaker 2: tell me it's not, I'd love to hear from you.
Speaker 2: We're going to take a break. Ladies want you to
Speaker 2: join in as well. So far, all the calls tonight
Speaker 2: have been men feel free six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten
Speaker 2: thirty got some more wide open lines. Are you looking
Speaker 2: forward to token up at your local or maybe a
Speaker 2: cannabis cafe in downtown Boston or whatever. You know, you're
Speaker 2: going to be driving stoned to the cafe and probably
Speaker 2: driving homestone to the cafe, and you'll be able to
Speaker 2: be out there with the drunk drivers as well. What
Speaker 2: a what a concept. Oh, here we go, bring it,
Speaker 2: bring it on, coming back after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll be interesting to see what people think about
Speaker 2: this possibility. I'm going to Mic and really Mike your
Speaker 2: first this hour on night side cannabis cafes. They're probably
Speaker 2: coming to Massachuonia. Good Mike, what do you think.
Speaker 3: They're out to lunch?
Speaker 2: Dan?
Speaker 3: Listen, Dan, I just saw them at seventeen years clean
Speaker 3: two weeks ago. Okay, it is the worst thing to happen.
Speaker 3: But unfortunately the Democratic state like California, all they want
Speaker 3: is tax dollars, that's all.
Speaker 2: But let me ask you, if you don't think we're
Speaker 2: going to have them here, Oh you.
Speaker 3: Have them here? Yeah, but it's not to lunch. It's crazy,
Speaker 3: it's nuts. Yeah, they don't think that way. They just
Speaker 3: want the tax money, Dan, that's all they want.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying that is that what happens in
Speaker 2: California eventually happens here. And I just think that that
Speaker 2: everything in this country with in my opinion, is the best,
Speaker 2: the most influential, the most powerful country in the world,
Speaker 2: and we're giving it away. People in this country want
Speaker 2: us to be like the Netherlands. Okay, be like the Netherlands.
Speaker 2: See what happens, you know, it's it's absolutely crazy, I
Speaker 2: guarantee you.
Speaker 3: And we're happening. There's something some Paul by some doctors
Speaker 3: or like some other knuckleheads, but they won't act act
Speaker 3: people in recovery or is this community. That's so the
Speaker 3: situation and that's what happened, and they'll just be do
Speaker 3: I just don't. And then and we're having is that
Speaker 3: the police guys, if you get stopped, they can't test
Speaker 3: for it, and so you get accident or something happens.
Speaker 3: You know, it's just I scratched my head at it.
Speaker 3: It's just not well.
Speaker 2: Again, I'm just trying to do a little Paul Revere
Speaker 2: thing and and blow and and you know basically basically, uh,
Speaker 2: soundly alarmed it's not the British are coming anymore. It's
Speaker 2: if the cannabis cafes are coming. Because if they've got
Speaker 2: to California, I guarantee you they'll be they'll be bills
Speaker 2: filed in the legislature for the upcoming session, and in
Speaker 2: Massachusetts they could easily pass. And I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't know that the governor would veto a piece of
Speaker 2: legislation that got to her desk like that by a
Speaker 2: quick thing.
Speaker 3: If we are coming out there, I think. And the
Speaker 3: cannabis saying mass is why they says they have a
Speaker 3: shertam punt of money going to recovery community or something
Speaker 3: like that, and that's has been used, yeah, something like that.
Speaker 2: Well, I know that they said they said that they
Speaker 2: had money coming for that, but I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's been used yet. Mike. Maybe someone out there can
Speaker 2: set us straight on that. Thanks man, I appreciate you
Speaker 2: called hang on here, thank you much. I'm we go
Speaker 2: to Andrew, who is calling from Connecticut. Hey, Andrew, welcome
Speaker 2: to Nightside.
Speaker 4: How are you, hey, dan Oria good If I had.
Speaker 2: You before, Andrew, I don't get a lot of calls
Speaker 2: from Connecticut.
Speaker 4: Uh have former mass reverent.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, that's that's what. So what do you
Speaker 2: think are you considered what happens in California spreads across
Speaker 2: the country. I think we found out, we've found that
Speaker 2: out in many respects.
Speaker 4: Yeah, bad ideas. It's uh, it's it's just another as
Speaker 4: the former caller, so that it is a revenue stream.
Speaker 4: And I heard your point earlier. You know people can
Speaker 4: gather in their homes and do it privately.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: Those people that gather in their homes there, they're going
Speaker 4: to have to drive to their homes, so they're going
Speaker 4: to be out on the roads.
Speaker 6: Anyways.
Speaker 4: You know, if you're if you're looking for a revenue
Speaker 4: stream and it does, it is going to help in
Speaker 4: some way, uh, generate funds that will you know, help
Speaker 4: screwce up the economy. You know, I think, uh, I
Speaker 4: think it's going to happen. And you know, prostitution is
Speaker 4: legal in Nevada. It's not legal in Massachusetts yet, it's
Speaker 4: been legal for a long time in Nevada. If people
Speaker 4: don't want these establishments in their neighborhoods, you know, Nimby,
Speaker 4: not in my backyard, it will be a well should
Speaker 4: be active and say, hey, you know, this is a
Speaker 4: great idea, but I don't want in my neighborhood. And
Speaker 4: I think people will have to fight locally to say
Speaker 4: that's not something I want in my neighborhood. But you know,
Speaker 4: maybe maybe the next town over it can have it.
Speaker 4: I know, with the dispensaries in the past couple of
Speaker 4: the past couple of years, it was a big boom.
Speaker 4: You know, they wanted to get into these towns and
Speaker 4: they paid, they paid handsomely the towns to build these establishments,
Speaker 4: and there was a huge rage and huge lines and
Speaker 4: it was a big to do. And now you don't
Speaker 4: hear anything about it. People are just going about their
Speaker 4: daily business doing doing what they need to do. And
Speaker 4: if it's still it's still a revenue stream for those communities.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what it comes down to, as long as
Speaker 2: why don't we make we should make prostitution legal, then
Speaker 2: as well, what about heroin cafes?
Speaker 4: It's legal in Nevada.
Speaker 2: No, I know that. No, you said that. That's why
Speaker 2: I asked you. That's gonna that would be a revenue stream.
Speaker 2: What about you know, cocaine cafes? That okay? I mean,
Speaker 2: where do you draw the line or do you draw
Speaker 2: no lines?
Speaker 4: Well, well, I mean, you know, I said, you know,
Speaker 4: you said you're old fashioned. I mean, I guess if
Speaker 4: you don't want to partake in that, I guess you
Speaker 4: don't have to go right, No.
Speaker 2: And if you don't want to partake in prostitution, you
Speaker 2: don't have to do it either.
Speaker 4: Right, that's correct, right, absolutely, I agree with that. If
Speaker 4: we want to hold a moral character, I guess it's
Speaker 4: hire opportunity to hold that moral character.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, it sounds to me like and you're saying,
Speaker 2: all bets are off, lets whatever, whatever will. Sounds to
Speaker 2: me like the standard by which you're doing this, which
Speaker 2: is right. By the way, I'm not opposed to it.
Speaker 2: I'm not opposed to what you're saying. I like to
Speaker 2: hear what you say. You're saying. If it's going to
Speaker 2: generate some money for the commonwealth of the cities and towns,
Speaker 2: let's do it.
Speaker 6: That's good, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's great, And you'll fundamentally change the character not
Speaker 2: only of the state of California, the state of Massachusetts,
Speaker 2: but eventually the whole country.
Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 6: And the as the state of.
Speaker 4: The Netherlands changed or I do see positive positive information
Speaker 4: coming out from there as far as being a number
Speaker 4: one place to live. People are happier, the economies. The
Speaker 4: economy is flourishing there. So I mean, let's do some
Speaker 4: research on these Netherlands communities that you know that this
Speaker 4: is active in and see.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure and I'm sure if there were evers,
Speaker 2: if there ever was a war with Russia, the Netherlands
Speaker 2: army would be We'll be right in the front lines. Right.
Speaker 2: They don't even they don't even pay their money to
Speaker 2: thanks thing exactly. Yeah, the military will be in the cafe.
Speaker 2: And what are you talking about? Russian tanks? Is are
Speaker 2: all what you're talking about? Uh? You know anyway, look, Andrew,
Speaker 2: I appreciate you calling. I really mean that you disagree
Speaker 2: with me, but I love your call. Uh. And that's
Speaker 2: what this show is all about, different points of view.
Speaker 4: Thank you you too, have a good one.
Speaker 2: But take a break. Here's the news coming right back
Speaker 2: on Nightside.
Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Well let's keep rolling here. See what people have to
Speaker 2: say about cannabis cafes here in New England. I think
Speaker 2: that they're coming because once they say okay in California,
Speaker 2: brace yourself, New England, maybe you think it's a good thing.
Speaker 2: I think Andrew thinks was pretty much a good thing.
Speaker 2: Mike disagreed. Let's go to Paul and Newton. Paul, you're
Speaker 2: next on Nightside. Thanks for calling in you tonight.
Speaker 5: I good, even good, Thank you. I just wanted to say,
Speaker 5: I think it's a very bad idea and that shows
Speaker 5: where we're going as a country. We're going downhill that
Speaker 5: any governor would go and allow these types of fays.
Speaker 5: Did you see there's multiple stories that broke today that
Speaker 5: the Vice President Kamala Harris, she is endorsing that we're
Speaker 5: proposing legalizing marijuana nationally. Did you see any of these stories?
Speaker 2: I didn't, but I can double check it. And did
Speaker 2: you see them on a Did you see that story
Speaker 2: on a w'd you see the legitimate news sources it?
Speaker 2: You know? Oh?
Speaker 5: I think the Hill did a story and there's that
Speaker 5: there's quite a few of them out there that broke
Speaker 5: that broke today within the last twelve hours. I think
Speaker 5: the Hill has a story. I saw it on there
Speaker 5: and some other sites. But if you google Vice President
Speaker 5: Harris legalized part. You'll see these stories.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to just jump in on it. Now
Speaker 2: Here it says she shifts on legalizing weedi. This is
Speaker 2: out of the Sacramento b which is a legitimate, a
Speaker 2: very legitimate sacramental newspapers like the Boston Globe on Unsacramento,
Speaker 2: which of course is the state capitol. Six hours ago,
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris said she's long supported legalizing weed, long supported
Speaker 2: legalizing weed. What her California record shows. In a recent
Speaker 2: turn of events in the presidential race, forman president Donald
Speaker 2: Trump faced criticism at a long Okay, so that's a
Speaker 2: different story. Harris set an interview for the All the
Speaker 2: Smoke podcasts released on Monday. She's long supported marijuana legalization.
Speaker 2: As a federal legislator, she's worked a decriminalize weed, but
Speaker 2: as a District attorney of San Francisco in California attorney general,
Speaker 2: the Democratic nominee stance was less clear. I just feel
Speaker 2: strongly people should not be going to jail for smoking weed.
Speaker 2: And we know hysterically what this has meant and who's
Speaker 2: gone to jail. She put a lot of those folks
Speaker 2: in jail smoking weed. When she was a prosecutor. She
Speaker 2: spent a forty seven minute episode. She won't do news
Speaker 2: conferences and she won't talk to the national media, but
Speaker 2: she an episode of All the Smoke, a podcast hosted
Speaker 2: by former NBA and Golden State Warrior players Matt Barnes
Speaker 2: and Steven Jackson. Second, I just think we have to
Speaker 2: come to a point where we understand that we need
Speaker 2: to legalize it and stop criminalizing this behavior. Actually, this
Speaker 2: is not a new position for me. I felt for
Speaker 2: a long time we need to legalize it. So that's
Speaker 2: where I am on that. So, yeah, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 5: It's a class de controlled substance that is mind altering.
Speaker 5: It's no good.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna argue the medical of it. I'm saying
Speaker 2: the interview released on Monday. I'm just confirming here what
Speaker 2: you're telling us is the first time Harris has publicly
Speaker 2: affirmed for a position on weed since officially becoming the
Speaker 2: Democratic presidential nominee. She hasn't talked to anybody else.
Speaker 5: We're going to the dogs.
Speaker 2: I think I think we're going to envy the dogs
Speaker 2: when this is eventually over. That's true, and Paul loved
Speaker 2: the call. Thank you, and up to the gate information
Speaker 2: from Paul to keep me on top of things. Will ya,
Speaker 2: I hadn't seen that. Thanks, have a rege. Good night.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Lola in in San Diego. Hi, Lola,
Speaker 2: welcome back. You're going to be able to smoke cannabis
Speaker 2: in a cannabis cafe pretty soon in San Diego.
Speaker 7: Then closed down all the bars. Sorry, but you know what,
Speaker 7: It's equal to alcohol, and alcohol has been more deadly
Speaker 7: longer than marijuana.
Speaker 2: How about how about some cocaine cafes.
Speaker 7: Well, now you're jabbling into a different type of drug.
Speaker 7: You're gabbling into a different type of drug. But let's
Speaker 7: keep going back to the good old alcohol. Now, the
Speaker 7: latest NFL games, people that have all beaten each other up,
Speaker 7: all drinking, and who promotes that the NFL because you
Speaker 7: Bess b is be is everywhere.
Speaker 2: Well that's so what I'm trying to say is this.
Speaker 7: Okay, I know most I understand.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, okay, I'm just saying something really simple. Okay,
Speaker 2: alcohol has been legal in this country since the repeal
Speaker 2: was reversed. Okay, I think it's the eighteenth Amendment of
Speaker 2: what you know. I'll grab my copy of the Constitution
Speaker 2: because those amendments get to be a little confusing every
Speaker 2: once in a while. And I don't want to misquote
Speaker 2: misquote the amendment, but for a while, alcohol was was
Speaker 2: illegal in this country.
Speaker 7: It was legal, and there was a there was a
Speaker 7: big bootlegger named H. Kennedy in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know whatever he was.
Speaker 7: He was making tons of money on bootlegg and booze.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I understand that. I understand that that's,
Speaker 2: you know whatever. So prohibition was from nineteen nineteen and
Speaker 2: then the repeal was the twenty first Amendment in nineteen
Speaker 2: thirty three. Okay, so they they tried to outlawer. It
Speaker 2: didn't work. Now, marijuana, which in this country, I think
Speaker 2: at a federal level, is still a classified as a
Speaker 2: as an illegal substance. I mean, many banks in this
Speaker 2: country refused to lend money to pot shops because they're
Speaker 2: concerned about federal rules and regulations exactly we're going to
Speaker 2: go to cannabis cafes. When they first started, Lola, let
Speaker 2: me get your response to this. When they first started,
Speaker 2: they said medical marijuana, people need it because they're suffering
Speaker 2: from all sorts of problems. So everybody said, okay, that's
Speaker 2: with a prescription. Then they said, wait a second, wait
Speaker 2: a second, we need to decriminalize it. And then they said,
Speaker 2: let's have let's allow people to smoke in their home,
Speaker 2: so you can buy in Massachusetts. You take it home
Speaker 2: and you're smoking with your friends. You'll listen to music,
Speaker 2: watch football, whatever you want to do. So now they
Speaker 2: see that's not Well, what it comes down to is
Speaker 2: where does this stop? Because if they were honest initially,
Speaker 2: if they were honest initially and said, look, we want
Speaker 2: to make it legal so that people can drive, I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, maybe we should make it legal
Speaker 2: so that it's so good that that there should be
Speaker 2: no prohibition on driving, you know, with with marijuana, what
Speaker 2: do you think about that?
Speaker 7: I think it should be okay, it just as it
Speaker 7: should be just as okay as drinking and driving. Oh
Speaker 7: we're going to go out to dinner and we're just
Speaker 7: going to have a glass of wine. Well you're still
Speaker 7: drinking outside of your home with your friends. You're out
Speaker 7: at a restaurant.
Speaker 2: Just but what But what I'm saying is this, why
Speaker 2: why did the people who got my question is this?
Speaker 2: Why not have been honest with people in Massachusetts? Ten
Speaker 2: years ago and saying, look, we want the whole, the
Speaker 2: whole Inchilada. We not only want medical marijuana, we want
Speaker 2: it available for recreational activity. And knowing that we want
Speaker 2: cannabis cafes.
Speaker 7: Because you have to do one step at a time.
Speaker 7: Oh okay, fine, and that's how it that's how it
Speaker 7: started here first it was medicinal.
Speaker 2: I know you're making my point.
Speaker 7: You're making my point, and I'm just saying. All I'm
Speaker 7: saying is, at the end of the day, it's all
Speaker 7: about revenue. Like your past Callas said, Okay, it's revenue, revenue, revenue,
Speaker 7: and the government sees a way to make a profit.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this. If if we can
Speaker 2: make if we can make revenue for the government with
Speaker 2: cocaine or heroin, what's wrong with that?
Speaker 7: Well, you know, right now we might not be alive
Speaker 7: dam But that might be the case because if you
Speaker 7: go back to Amster, I think it's Amsterdam, there's there's
Speaker 7: more drugs available there than ah here.
Speaker 2: Okay, and right, so we want to emulate, so therefore
Speaker 2: we should emulate Amsterdam.
Speaker 7: I'm not saying that, I'm just well when I'm I'm
Speaker 7: just that was the example that was given. So if
Speaker 7: you really want to know.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is in effect, they're saying this is
Speaker 2: going to be wonderful, just be like Amsterdam. Well let's
Speaker 2: let's just not take half a loaf of Amsterdam. Let's
Speaker 2: take the whole thing. Let's let's legalize it all.
Speaker 7: By the time this happens, we won't be on this
Speaker 7: side of the flowers. Okay, we'll be pushing up daisy.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm concerned. I'm concerned as as as a parent.
Speaker 2: I'm concerned as a grandfather that this is what our
Speaker 2: kids are going to be dealing with. And you know, people,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of people killed in drunk driving accidents.
Speaker 2: You're absolutely I'm not.
Speaker 7: Look, I'm not for drinking and driving, no, no, no,
Speaker 7: but but I haven't had alcohol for since two fifteen
Speaker 7: when I started my yoga practice. Okay, okay, congratulations, congratulations,
Speaker 7: thank you. But I didn't know what I'm saying is
Speaker 7: quit it.
Speaker 2: Yeah okay, but it's always. Thank you very much. I
Speaker 2: appreciate them. Up my break. You got the longest call
Speaker 2: of the night so far because you were the best
Speaker 2: one so far. Thank you as always.
Speaker 7: Okay, well, thank you and again, I'm not I'm not
Speaker 7: endorsing yousing drugs or alcohol, but it's just looking at
Speaker 7: it from a balance that if you're going to allow this,
Speaker 7: then you have to allow that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's like saying somebody who doesn't have enough
Speaker 2: self control, they got to eat five ring things a day,
Speaker 2: they also should eat like, you know, five chocolate cupcakes,
Speaker 2: about twenty five Oreo cookies.
Speaker 7: I mean that, you know, Dan, at the end of
Speaker 7: the day, I look at it like this, whether it's
Speaker 7: legal or illegal, it's your choice. Now do you want
Speaker 7: to take do you want to drink that or eat that? Whatever?
Speaker 7: Because it's on the shelf. You know, people have to
Speaker 7: take responsibility.
Speaker 2: So no, I don't believe in that. I don't believe
Speaker 2: in people taking responsibility because when they when they kill
Speaker 2: someone in their car, why should they have to go
Speaker 2: to trial. I mean, they were just drinking.
Speaker 7: They were being allowed to do it to be going
Speaker 7: right to jail. No trial.
Speaker 2: All right, Lola, gotta go, Thank you much. Thanks, Okay,
Speaker 2: bye bye, We'll be right back on Night's side. This
Speaker 2: has got the bowl lines going. Let's keep rolling. Coming
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Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray line from the window world
Speaker 1: Side Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: That's keep Rolanhan. Going to go to Joe and Weymouth. Joe,
Speaker 2: you were next on Nightside.
Speaker 8: Welcome right ahead, Yes, Dan, how are you good?
Speaker 2: Sir? What's your take on all of this shows?
Speaker 7: Can you hear me?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: I can hear you perfectly, Go right ahead, Okay.
Speaker 9: I was looking today through my mail and I got,
Speaker 9: uh the five questions that are going to be on
Speaker 9: the ballot, and one of those, I believe was something
Speaker 9: about legalizing some kind of controlled substances. I didn't need it.
Speaker 2: So called so called magic mushrooms.
Speaker 9: Oh that's that's awesome. Yeah, to try those up in
Speaker 9: the cast.
Speaker 2: Very cool. It's very cool. Everybody in Massachusetts can get
Speaker 2: stoned on magic mushrooms.
Speaker 9: That's just awesome. I think these cafes, like you said,
Speaker 9: are probably inevitable. It's it's a horrible idea. And when
Speaker 9: you also mentioned in California that they made so many
Speaker 9: billions legally and the black market made substantially more.
Speaker 2: Still twice and I guess we did the story last
Speaker 2: week here up in Maine, little old state of Maine,
Speaker 2: there's two hundred and seventy to or at least two
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy illegal pot farms in Maine that are
Speaker 2: funded by the Chinese government, the Communist Party of China.
Speaker 2: Go check out main Daily Wire. It's a great website
Speaker 2: out there. Finally, finally it's being taken. There's notice being
Speaker 2: taken of it. We did it a year ago. The
Speaker 2: Boston a little bit of front page story on it
Speaker 2: last week. They're a little late, a little late to
Speaker 2: the party. But yeah, is that great?
Speaker 9: Yeah, well you've been You've been talking about that for months.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, since last January. And you've got to give
Speaker 2: credit to Steve Robinson, who's the editor in chief of
Speaker 2: the Main Wire. But if the national media doesn't want
Speaker 2: to do it, it doesn't exist. You don't see that
Speaker 2: story on NBCC Bears or ABC National News at night,
Speaker 2: do you.
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, no, you know no.
Speaker 9: That's why I have to get my news from nights out.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll keep we'll keep working on a show. Thank
Speaker 2: you very much. You're a very great caller, and continue
Speaker 2: to support you keep calling the show. Thanks much, talk
Speaker 2: soon than right, good night. Let me go next to
Speaker 2: I Lean in Waltham. I lean want to get you
Speaker 2: in here before the newscast at the top of the hour. Yeah.
Speaker 10: One, I don't know why our restudent politicians didn't realize
Speaker 10: that if they legalize marijuana, the fentanyl trade is going
Speaker 10: to increase direct result. Two, our illustrious senator warned, is
Speaker 10: for the national legalization of marijuana.
Speaker 2: Sure she is. Huh, I'm sure she is.
Speaker 10: That was a hot jump, right, And then the effects
Speaker 10: of merrill And then I and the legal trade that
Speaker 10: you highlighted a few days ago or a week within
Speaker 10: the last week.
Speaker 7: On your program.
Speaker 10: And the other thing is many, many. I mean, if
Speaker 10: you drive around Boston, you're going to see multiple part
Speaker 10: marijuana where we're gonna call them facilities all over the place. Yeah,
Speaker 10: I mean there's no control on.
Speaker 5: The number of them.
Speaker 10: They're everywhere, and I'm sure very expensive. I mean they're
Speaker 10: not little sharp, these are huge.
Speaker 2: I kind OF's making money.
Speaker 10: And yeah, someone mancy this big time.
Speaker 2: Someone's making money. That's for sure. Capitalism is a great thing.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 10: But I don't even see how all of these can
Speaker 10: make enough money to exist. It's like they're almost across
Speaker 10: the street from each other.
Speaker 2: Well, I guarantee you that in time, pardon the pun.
Speaker 2: Some will be weeded out. Yeah, okay, all right, thanks,
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Welcome, great Carl, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Let me see what I can do here real quickly.
Speaker 2: I got Jim in casey Jim. Go ahead, sir.
Speaker 8: Next time I'll be I'll be brief called earlier, but
Speaker 8: i'll be okay, not this week.
Speaker 2: You haven't. You left me a voicemail over the weekend,
Speaker 2: but I couldn't hear what you were trying to play
Speaker 2: for me at the end.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, all right, all right.
Speaker 8: Well, three things I've been saying for years that whenever
Speaker 8: you get any kind of a prescription that precludes the
Speaker 8: operation of machinery, your state should automatically assume that you
Speaker 8: need that prescription in order to live, and since you're
Speaker 8: going to be on it twenty four seven three sixty five,
Speaker 8: they should automatically suspend your privilege to operate. And the
Speaker 8: other thing is answer your question, where does it stop.
Speaker 8: It's generational. The kids see the parents doing it and
Speaker 8: they think it's okay. If the kids don't see the
Speaker 8: parents doing it, they may still try it, but once
Speaker 8: they realize how crazy it is, they'll stop. So that's
Speaker 8: where It starts and stops with the family. If you
Speaker 8: care about your kids, you care about your grandchildren, don't
Speaker 8: do it because they're going to see it. They're going
Speaker 8: to think it's good, and they're going to do it
Speaker 8: whether it is good or not.
Speaker 2: All right, Jim, I got you in. Thank you very
Speaker 2: much as always, appreciate your call. Talk to you soon. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 2: I got about a minute. I want to get Daryl
Speaker 2: in here and desertas to hang through the news. Daryl
Speaker 2: got about a minute for you.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, buddy, hey Man, great topic again. I'm a
Speaker 6: medical client through a veteran program YEP, legalizing Canada. And
Speaker 6: what happens is a group of veterans up at a
Speaker 6: place called Canada House in or Mucdo, New Bunchwick. Yeah,
Speaker 6: if you wish a lot of information to give them
Speaker 6: a call talk to the guy that started it. And
Speaker 6: but I would not go further than a marijuana product
Speaker 6: reference legalization because with the opiates after major surgery, a
Speaker 6: lot of veterans.
Speaker 2: Go through No I understand, I understand. What I'm just
Speaker 2: saying is that it's tough to draw the line because
Speaker 2: you know, once you let the genie out of the bottle.
Speaker 2: It's tough to get the genie back in the bottle. Yes,
Speaker 2: I'm sure you know.
Speaker 6: It also goes back. It also goes back to the
Speaker 6: responsibility of the vendors and the people.
Speaker 2: Well, good luck relying on that unfortunately. Yeah all right, Daryl,
Speaker 2: you got it.
Speaker 6: All goes back to the good.
Speaker 2: People, right, that's what it's about. I guess I guess
Speaker 2: you're right. And the good people want more weed, and
Speaker 2: we'll get them more weed, get them weed everywhere. Everybody
Speaker 2: will have weed, and everybody will be late for work.
Speaker 2: Nothing we'll get done, no one will go to work,
Speaker 2: and the society will will collapse. That's okay, what the
Speaker 2: hell we've had?
Speaker 6: Well, that's why people want to work from home.
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, you got that. That way they can smoke.
Speaker 2: I get it, I get it.
Speaker 7: All.
Speaker 2: Great points, Daryl. I gotta run. I'm talking to you soon.
Speaker 2: Here comes the news I got you in so you
Speaker 2: didn't have to wait. Thanks Daryl. Coming back on Night's
Speaker 2: side right after this. We'll continue with this cannabis cafe
Speaker 2: issue for as long as you like, or we're gonna
Speaker 2: switch topics. So I'm gonna go to Stacy, who is
Speaker 2: kind enough to hold on through the newscast. Hey, Stacy,
Speaker 2: what's your thought on the cannabis cafes in California. You know,
Speaker 2: whatever happens in California eventually comes to Massachusetts.
Speaker 11: Really, but i'd like to I'm not getting off topic,
Speaker 11: but I do want to mention that the medical marijuana
Speaker 11: those places, there's only two right now that I know
Speaker 11: of in Massachusetts, Meta and Brookline opened in twenty sixteen
Speaker 11: for medical and I think you know, I have multiple sclerosis.
Speaker 11: If I didn't smoke medical marijuana, my lesions are in
Speaker 11: the front of my brain that affect my cognitive functioning,
Speaker 11: and I wouldn't be able to focus and get anything done.
Speaker 11: Nineteen it went to recreation and now there're a dime
Speaker 11: a dozen. What they're doing is they're all selling everybody
Speaker 11: else's product, but there's no medical anymore because the compliance
Speaker 11: is so difficult.
Speaker 2: Okay, so what are you telling me? Okay, what I'm
Speaker 2: hearing you say, correct me if I'm wrong, is that
Speaker 2: the legitimate need for people like yourself who had a
Speaker 2: medical need that was used by the medical by the
Speaker 2: marijuana community as sort of the way to open the door.
Speaker 2: Now that the door is opened, anybody in Massachusetts could
Speaker 2: buy it. Anybody in Massachusetts, you know a certain age
Speaker 2: could use it. But folks like yourself who are in
Speaker 2: need of it, access for you is now tougher that
Speaker 2: it was when it first started. It sounds like what
Speaker 2: you're telling me is that correct?
Speaker 11: And to say that it is correct as a disabled person,
Speaker 11: we don't pay taxes on medical marijuana if.
Speaker 7: You have a card.
Speaker 11: What the disservices with recreation is the young kids that
Speaker 11: think they can go when they become a certain age
Speaker 11: and they're just smoking pot. I get it recreationally. I
Speaker 11: mean I grew up in the day when we smoked
Speaker 11: one hundred percent pc and didn't care where it came from.
Speaker 11: Now I'm very careful about the medical marijuana. I know
Speaker 11: what works for me, and I know it doesn't. And
Speaker 11: it's so frustrating to go to a recreational place having
Speaker 11: to pay more than you should and not get the
Speaker 11: product you want.
Speaker 2: So why why have they eliminated the medical marijuana dispensaries?
Speaker 2: Why they too?
Speaker 11: Why have The question is why have that they not
Speaker 11: opened more medical dispensaries? And the reason being is so
Speaker 11: I'll tell you getting a license for that through compliance,
Speaker 11: through the Mass Commission, whatever it is, is very very difficult,
Speaker 11: very difficult. And the fact that there were two recreations
Speaker 11: marijuana has opened across the street from each other. I
Speaker 11: think it was in Quinsy is outrageous.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 11: It makes people like us who require medical marijuana to
Speaker 11: go through their product figure out what's in it? Is
Speaker 11: it going to help me? It's just so much more
Speaker 11: research than when you know what works in the medical.
Speaker 2: Exactly well, well, you know, I have all the empathy
Speaker 2: in the world for anybody like yourself, Stacy. In effect,
Speaker 2: I think that the medical marijuana should be able to
Speaker 2: even if you have to have the type that you
Speaker 2: need in your doctor's office. I mean that that's you're
Speaker 2: the folks who truly have a need for it. You're
Speaker 2: not some twenty one year old who wants to get
Speaker 2: stoned on Friday night with his friends and watch the
Speaker 2: Three Stooges on TV.
Speaker 11: You know, I mean, oh, exactly exactly. And it really
Speaker 11: you know, there's veterans out there that help, there's you know,
Speaker 11: the lines were out the door when it first came
Speaker 11: up medical and now the recreational is exactly what it is,
Speaker 11: and we've kind of fallen by the wayside.
Speaker 2: Because unfortunately you were the You were the folks who
Speaker 2: kind of opened the door, and there were a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of people standing behind you who kind of have
Speaker 2: trampled over you.
Speaker 7: People. I'm sorry for people who requiet it.
Speaker 11: Netta taught me everything I know.
Speaker 7: It was so foreign to me.
Speaker 11: But you really, for medical purposes, you have to do
Speaker 11: your research on the certain ones that make you more
Speaker 11: aggressive than the others. And now again having to go
Speaker 11: to a recreational and ask the question, learning it all
Speaker 11: over again is just I wish they would turn around
Speaker 11: and just go back and start.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 11: The other reason that I think is very, very common
Speaker 11: is corporate corporations are buying the recreational facilities and they're
Speaker 11: trying to run them.
Speaker 7: Like corporate and you can't.
Speaker 11: It's a marijuana interest. They don't wear three piece suits
Speaker 11: and tight shirts and all that. It's the marijuana industry.
Speaker 11: And I've seen that in so many places that have
Speaker 11: gone downhill because people are buying it as an investment,
Speaker 11: not really sharing.
Speaker 2: And I think, all right, Stacy, best of luck. I
Speaker 2: wish I had it. I wish I had an answer
Speaker 2: for you. I don't, but I think you know that
Speaker 2: that here in Massachusetts, we could we we could certainly
Speaker 2: do better, uh in Massachusetts than in terms of serving
Speaker 2: folks who really have a need for it. They're more concerned.
Speaker 2: The folks who really have a need is a small subset.
Speaker 2: So what they want to do is they want to
Speaker 2: they use you guys to get it going, and now
Speaker 2: you're getting pushed out of the way, which is just
Speaker 2: dead wrong. Stacy, thank you for calling. Okay, and best
Speaker 2: of luck with your your your your diagnosis, your condition,
Speaker 2: and hopefully we can get it back on track.
Speaker 11: And I mean that honestly, so thank you Dean.
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Stacy talking to him. Good night. All right,
Speaker 2: we come back. A couple of things here. I want
Speaker 2: to change topics. A couple of things. One tomorrow night
Speaker 2: we got the big vice presidential debate, the one and
Speaker 2: only vice presidential debate. We didn't realize at the design,
Speaker 2: but it was only going to be the one and
Speaker 2: only Trump Harris debate. Back it was it September tenth,
Speaker 2: I think yeah, I think it was. It's been a while.
Speaker 2: The one and only vice presidential debate is tomorrow night.
Speaker 2: You will be able to hear it in its entirety
Speaker 2: here on WBZ at eight o'clock, we'll do an hour
Speaker 2: on these two candidates and try to get your sense
Speaker 2: as to what you expect. I think it's very interesting.
Speaker 2: Normally the vice presidential debates aren't particularly interesting. I think
Speaker 2: it's a very big contrast between Senator Vans of Ohio
Speaker 2: and Governor Walds of Minnesota, and we'll talk about that
Speaker 2: tomorrow night. What I do want to do, however, is
Speaker 2: share with you. And I know some of you are
Speaker 2: going to be happy and some of you are going
Speaker 2: to be upset. There's a new NBC Heart Research Associates
Speaker 2: Public Relations opinion poll public opinion strategies, and I'm going
Speaker 2: to break down the internals in the poll. I don't
Speaker 2: particularly care what the poll says, but when you know
Speaker 2: how to read polls, and I think I'm able to
Speaker 2: read them, and I think I'll be able to convince
Speaker 2: you in this poll that this is not good news
Speaker 2: for Donald Trump in my opinion. If the election were
Speaker 2: held today today, today's September thirtieth, we still have the
Speaker 2: month of October and then the election is on November fifth.
Speaker 2: So we're talking about the election now is thirty seven
Speaker 2: days away. If the election were held today, say hello
Speaker 2: to President Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris, I just I will,
Speaker 2: I will, I think convince you. You may not be
Speaker 2: happy with the numbers, but I'm going to run the
Speaker 2: numbers by you and I want to get your reaction
Speaker 2: to them. We'll take a break if you'd like to
Speaker 2: jump on board early and dispute the numbers. The numbers
Speaker 2: are what they are six, one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty
Speaker 2: Back on night Side