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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Cult of Conspiracy and my name is Jonathan.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dragging today.

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<v Speaker 2>We have back your boy, John Kerwin. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 2>the show, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>What's up. It's good to be back, man. I was

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<v Speaker 3>so glad to hear from you. Guys. This is gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be great.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, John, I mean you you had a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>cult members actually reached out to us and they were like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, this John Kerwin. I fucking love this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely got to get him back on. And uh so

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<v Speaker 2>whenever you reached out, we were like, hell, yeah, all

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<v Speaker 2>day baby, so awesome. What what have you been up

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<v Speaker 2>to lately since last time?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that is spinning. Man. I just did a talk.

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<v Speaker 3>I just did a talk tonight. It's called hell. I

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<v Speaker 3>have more than ten rabbit holes in my portfolio?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, who has been my soul?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>I only I have ten rabbit holes actively working at

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<v Speaker 1>this moment. I don't even talk.

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<v Speaker 3>About the portfolio, man, accept do you have? Well? What

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<v Speaker 3>Here's what happened to me? So I'm I'm just like

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<v Speaker 3>the podcast thing has taken on a lifetime. I got

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<v Speaker 3>like seventeen podcasts that I scheduled this month already. Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's so cool man, because and so I'm meeting

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<v Speaker 3>all these people like you guys and the people that

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<v Speaker 3>are just in this thing right all the way in.

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<v Speaker 3>And but I'm noticing that there's this like linear spectrum

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<v Speaker 3>of podcasters what their views are. And so what I

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<v Speaker 3>started noticing is if a podcaster truther, guy or girl,

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<v Speaker 3>it is only down a few rabbit holes, then they

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<v Speaker 3>were the ones that would give me this advice because

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<v Speaker 3>I talk about how my wife and my kids are

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<v Speaker 3>barely talking to me. So yeah, so they said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you can't ram things down people's throat and

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<v Speaker 3>you have to let people find it out in their

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<v Speaker 3>own time. Well, what I realized is that that advice

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<v Speaker 3>was really mostly coming from the people that were more

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<v Speaker 3>normy yeah, truther, okay, Because as you get daper down

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<v Speaker 3>the rabbit hole, what happens is your urgency increases more

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<v Speaker 3>and more. Yeah, and it gets to the point where

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<v Speaker 3>it's like the dude that's trying to rearrange the deck

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<v Speaker 3>chairs on the Titanic, You've just got no tolerance, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, and going down these rabbit holes, they definitely

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<v Speaker 2>spark open other curiosity. What else could they be lying

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<v Speaker 2>to us about? What else could be a sham? You

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<v Speaker 2>know what else? And it makes you really, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just so curious because you know how many different rabbit

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<v Speaker 2>holes have we gone down? I mean, for God's sake,

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<v Speaker 2>this is episode four hundred and twenty six. Dude, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my gosh, And.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're literally not even close to done. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It is because well, especially in the day and age

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<v Speaker 2>that we're living in now, I mean, there're shit popping

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<v Speaker 2>off day after day after day. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you heard about that shit that just happened down in Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>All those cops and some people were talking about how

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<v Speaker 2>they could have been eight to ten foot gray aliens

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<v Speaker 2>walking around and.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever it was. It fucked those people up. Dude, we're

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<v Speaker 1>playing on, Yeah, we're yeah, it was. It was shut

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<v Speaker 1>it was gunned down. It's a whole thing, were plowing

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<v Speaker 1>down this monster. There was at least last.

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<v Speaker 2>Week January first, actually down in Miami was at a mall.

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<v Speaker 3>And wait a minute, hold on, hold on, you're telling

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<v Speaker 3>me there was a gun an eight foot gray alien

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<v Speaker 3>was gunned down.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know exactly what there are videos. And it

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<v Speaker 1>depends on if you want to believe these or not.

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<v Speaker 1>But the sources that we're getting this from has not

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<v Speaker 1>been wrong yet, So I take that with whatever grain

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<v Speaker 1>assault you want. I'm not saying it's predator. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's an Ananachi. I'm saying that it's some unhuman

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<v Speaker 1>ass shit that was getting shut up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the official source, the official news to where he says, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just a couple of kids fighting in a

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<v Speaker 2>mall or something along those lines. Well, if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 2>then why are there over one hundred cop cars outside

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<v Speaker 2>and the whole city is talking about this. There's so

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<v Speaker 2>many videos. I mean, it happened at a mall. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not like it happened at like somebody's house. Like think

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<v Speaker 2>about all the people that were there. And people have said, like, look,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's hard in this day and age with the internet,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what's being doctored what's not. But I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 2>sure I've seen videos, whether it's real or not, of

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<v Speaker 2>these just tall ass beings walking down the street, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>And and that's something that it's not being talked about

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<v Speaker 2>at all. It's not on the news. It was on

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<v Speaker 2>local news. Because they had to down in Miami. But

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<v Speaker 2>that being said, we're gathering evidence to really try and

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<v Speaker 2>put together a show for that one.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a highly documented thing down in Peru in

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<v Speaker 3>this little village got visited by they called them the

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<v Speaker 3>face peelers, and they were like eight foot gray aliens,

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<v Speaker 3>and they had shoes with little glowing circles on the bottom.

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<v Speaker 3>They could levitate and fly up, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it was covered on the mainstream news down there. And

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<v Speaker 3>then Timothy Alberino has been there. Uh he's like with

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<v Speaker 3>Steve Quail and all those dudes, and he went down

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<v Speaker 3>there and he was like, this is totally happening. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so things are ratcheting up, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember hearing about it. I remember hearing about it,

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<v Speaker 1>But the sources that I was getting that one from

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't verify. But I do remember hearing about it.

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<v Speaker 1>That happened like summer of last year, didn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was more recent than that. No, it's only about

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<v Speaker 3>four or four months ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It was recent, so we're talking like September. Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And the one girl they got this one girl and

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<v Speaker 3>her face they were trying to puel her face off

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<v Speaker 3>and she got free or something. But the people saw

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<v Speaker 3>him and shot at him and then they flew off.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you talk about this stuff most people, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're like, you're not well you wait, you just wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh face peeler, you mean frazzle drip? Is this

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<v Speaker 2>where Hillary Clinton got it from? I mean, there's nothing new.

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<v Speaker 1>There's precedents for this, whatsoever? Where are we ben getting

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<v Speaker 1>this from? Like bruh, is that we're even connecting dots.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just saying the shit that comes off the top, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>right right, and even a deep rabbit hole in the

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<v Speaker 1>surface level for us.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's definitely a case to be made that some

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<v Speaker 2>of these beings that are walking around or possibly invading might.

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<v Speaker 1>Be evil entities.

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<v Speaker 2>Could they be demons, Could they be you know, Nephelom,

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<v Speaker 2>Could they be the fucking you know, the kids of

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<v Speaker 2>the Ananaki.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But not every single story is a like rainbow and

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<v Speaker 2>butterfly story. Whenever you hear about this kind of shit.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys noticed that there's like a crescendo right now

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<v Speaker 3>of sightings and talking about it. I mean, it's common, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like a soft launch to me. Look, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that there is so many things coming to a

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<v Speaker 1>crescendo right now, and so so many ways. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>not even let's take two seconds away from any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of religious prophecy or religious dogma for two seconds. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>just look currently on the earth. What we got going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven active genocides, thirteen open wars. Half of Europe is

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<v Speaker 1>on the verge, if not already collapsing. We have open

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<v Speaker 1>air conflict going on on the entire southern border of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. China is on the verge of absolutely collapsing,

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<v Speaker 1>which means the entire world's cheap labor is about to

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<v Speaker 1>collapse with it. Let's not even go into what the

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<v Speaker 1>war on drugs is doing in our own country, or

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that we just got over a bullshit sniffle

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<v Speaker 1>virus that is going to be relaunched. Y'all just see,

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<v Speaker 1>y'll no get well.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, a lot of people say that it's already happening. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about some kind of some white lung disease

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that, that it's as a result of

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<v Speaker 2>the shot. Supposedly a lot of people are getting like

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<v Speaker 2>RSV and stuff like that as a result. But it

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<v Speaker 2>only turns out that it's so I can't remember. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like white white lung or something like that. And it

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<v Speaker 2>turns out that only the people who were vaccinated are

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<v Speaker 2>are getting this unvaccinated. And I can actually prove this.

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<v Speaker 2>And now I don't know about the white lung, but

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<v Speaker 2>I can testify to the RSV and the flu or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you want to call it, because actually it was

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<v Speaker 2>just last week that my wife and my son were

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<v Speaker 2>both they both had the flu. They had like type

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<v Speaker 2>B flu or whatever it was, and RSV. Now, my wife,

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<v Speaker 2>before we got married, before I met her, she had

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<v Speaker 2>already she got two of the COVID shots, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>obviously like whenever we had the baby, like that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>in him, right, I didn't get any of the shots,

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<v Speaker 2>and bro, I was around them literally all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is my life. I do podcasting. I'm either

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<v Speaker 2>podcasting or I'm home, that's it. And I was around

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<v Speaker 2>them the whole time, kissing my baby, kissing my wife

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<v Speaker 2>all the things.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I never got sick, right, never got sick.

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<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, they're like fucking hock, you know, hacking up their

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<v Speaker 2>lungs and everything else, So there might be something to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, all of that to say all of that. To

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<v Speaker 1>say that with that, all of that was during the

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<v Speaker 1>calm times. We are now going into an election year.

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to say that, ye just say nothing

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<v Speaker 1>of what's going on in Ukraine and in Israel and

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<v Speaker 1>in uh Sudan right now, or Boca Haram or what

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<v Speaker 1>they're up to, or any sidestepping all of those beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>talking points that all happened during the calm time. We're

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<v Speaker 1>about to get in the timeframe where everything hits the fans.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, sir, well coming to QUI.

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<v Speaker 2>That's thanks to the twenty four to seven news cycle.

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<v Speaker 2>But also, I mean, John, you're somebody who I mean, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>you wrote a whole damn book on Mandela effects and

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<v Speaker 2>shit like that. So by getting into a couple more

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<v Speaker 2>of the Mandela things that you wanted to jump into today.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as the supernatural Bible, that's something that you

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<v Speaker 2>had wrote that you wanted to get into, the super

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<v Speaker 2>natural Bible changes in the Mandela effect.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been seeing a lot of people get into this

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<v Speaker 1>and it's weird. Bro, it's so weird. Supernatural Bible. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fucking pumped about this.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go. It's totally incredible, man, I mean it's a

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<v Speaker 3>mind better because you know you're talking about your reality

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<v Speaker 3>is morphine. Yeah, a lot of people take issue with that.

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<v Speaker 3>They said that you draw in bro, you drew the

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<v Speaker 3>line there for me. Now you now I know you're crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>You see that with truthers, Like you'll have like devout

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<v Speaker 3>truthers on one topic, but you try to bring another

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<v Speaker 3>topic and oh that's ridiculous. So they act up like

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<v Speaker 3>a normy times ten. Isn't that weird?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's actually this show rate here. That's it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>a perfect like there are certain there are some things

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<v Speaker 2>that Jacob's like, ah, that's bullshit. I don't believe that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm like.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, it's real, it's real, it's real.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's also certain things that he brings up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, ah, that's bullshit, and he's like, I'm fucking

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, it's real.

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<v Speaker 2>And so like this is not one of those echo chambers.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why you know, this is that's why I

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<v Speaker 2>love doing this because it's always like not battle. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, I don't want to put it that way,

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<v Speaker 2>but you it's definitely somebody to challenge my thoughts and

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<v Speaker 2>like anything I say, you just believe I love it here.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, same thing. Look how many times have I told

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<v Speaker 1>you something that I say is in the Bible and

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<v Speaker 1>I've had somebody fact check me and comment me or

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<v Speaker 1>DM me or something and be like, hey, bro, you

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<v Speaker 1>This has helped me to also keep myself in check

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<v Speaker 1>in certain respects and then also hear the opposition and

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<v Speaker 1>here a questions that I would have never had asked

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<v Speaker 1>in any other regards. So dude, yeah, dude, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect duality. It's a beautiful flower.

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<v Speaker 2>But that being said, what are a couple of examples

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<v Speaker 1>John? I mean, I'm very curious about to see what

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<v Speaker 1>you got.

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<v Speaker 4>Dude.

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<v Speaker 3>We did wade into this last time, didn't we go.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit a little bit? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, because you know this topic just for folks who

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<v Speaker 3>maybe didn't hear the other session this and you know that,

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<v Speaker 3>let me give Mandela one on one right, So that

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<v Speaker 3>what is it? It's the experience that like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>millions of people are reporting where things that they vividly

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<v Speaker 3>remember no longer exist as they remember them. And we're

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<v Speaker 3>talking things like as vivid as your name. So this

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<v Speaker 3>is not like a faded memory or something like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I had tunic fish for lunch two days ago. No,

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<v Speaker 3>this is like, this is what it's like. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 3>wake up in the morning and your name is Jonathan now,

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<v Speaker 3>but you wake up tomorrow and it's Jim, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>you're totally freaked out. Your bank statements say Jim, your

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<v Speaker 3>bird certificate, drivers, everything says Jim. Even people know you

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<v Speaker 3>is Jim. And you're like, man, you go to the doctor,

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<v Speaker 3>you get checked out, and then you don't have mental illness.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody's running a scam on you. You're not on drugs. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so the whole situation is clean. So I mean, would

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<v Speaker 3>you not consider like an unexplainable phenomenon.

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<v Speaker 2>I would think that I was like picked up and

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<v Speaker 2>picked up from this matrix and dropped into another one

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<v Speaker 2>at that point, right, all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So now this is where you'll understand what it's

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<v Speaker 3>like to be experiencing the Mandel effect. Whether you believe

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<v Speaker 3>it or not. There's millions of people claiming this. So

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<v Speaker 3>why didn't you say I was I could just be

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<v Speaker 3>misremembering when it comes to your name.

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<v Speaker 2>Changing, because it's something that I know to my core.

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<v Speaker 2>I know where my name is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah. So so what you're saying, what your testimony is,

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<v Speaker 3>is that you believe the human memory is so reliable

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to vivid memories that even if the

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<v Speaker 3>data sphere is telling you that your name is Jim,

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, I don't care what the data sphere is

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<v Speaker 3>telling me. I know what my name is, bro, my name,

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<v Speaker 3>my whole life, my name Jim. I don't know what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on. Okay, that's now that Now with that context,

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<v Speaker 3>how would you feel if I I started coming to

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<v Speaker 3>you and saying, oh, man, I can clear this up

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<v Speaker 3>for you. You're just confusing the platters peanut guy with

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<v Speaker 3>the Monopoly guy. You know, the memory can't be relied on, Jonathan,

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<v Speaker 3>You're you know, you're just misremembery. How would that make

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<v Speaker 3>you feel?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? It would make me feel a couple of different emotions.

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<v Speaker 2>First off, I'd probably be really pissed that I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like everybody's in on a joke and I'm like the

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<v Speaker 2>butt of the joke. Yeah, and if it's not that,

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, I've actually already told my wife that

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<v Speaker 2>the day I get Alzheimer's, just put me out, bro

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<v Speaker 2>Like take me out to a sea and just dump

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<v Speaker 2>me off the boat and I won't remember to swim

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<v Speaker 2>a pasture. Just let it happen, because I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to live a life like that. I'll be damned if

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<v Speaker 2>I live my remaining days that way. And I will

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<v Speaker 2>instantly think if nobody's fucking with me, then yep, it's official.

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<v Speaker 2>I got Alzheimer's, right, Like at that point, I like.

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<v Speaker 1>It not a good way to go, not a good

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<v Speaker 1>way I'm just thinking of like that. I'm actually my

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<v Speaker 1>brain went to a very complicated way of doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like push you out of the back of a plane,

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<v Speaker 1>but like on a life raft, like just in case

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<v Speaker 1>the life wrap didn't like or the fall didn't kill you,

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<v Speaker 1>Like okay, we'll give you like you know, a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of water. Just let let the ocean take you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm a little hard honor on there to

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<v Speaker 1>like rig to a gas tank for a little out

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<v Speaker 1>there Viking burial, just to know I has to clean

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<v Speaker 1>up the disposal. It could be a thing dude, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be shark food. I ain't got no problem with that

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<v Speaker 1>air drop Viking funeral. Oh my god, we could make

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<v Speaker 1>a business out of this dull day.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean yeah, I would say probably the

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<v Speaker 2>first emotion I would experience would be a piste offery.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Well you can't I mean, you can't

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<v Speaker 3>deny you. You know your name, and so so here's how

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<v Speaker 3>I help people understand it. May be skeptical. I'll use

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<v Speaker 3>you guys as my example. Okay, I have a memory

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<v Speaker 3>from my childhood where my family and I went camping,

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<v Speaker 3>and I can I can still picture the tent. It

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<v Speaker 3>had green and yellow stripes on it. I'm like twelve

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<v Speaker 3>or something, Okay. And then around the same time, I

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<v Speaker 3>remember going to Campwayanda, and I could picture the cat

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<v Speaker 3>happened that I stayed in. I remember walking to the

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<v Speaker 3>camp all right. Now, here's my question. Which one of

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<v Speaker 3>those memories is more vivid to me?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably what out of the camp and the tent. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say the camp would be more so because

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<v Speaker 2>you remember actually going there. The tent would just be

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<v Speaker 2>inside of the place that you went to.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I guess I guess it depends on

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<v Speaker 1>the experience, right, Like, let's say that for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>some profound moment happened with your dad on that camping

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<v Speaker 1>tramp and like you glanced around, and that's why the

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<v Speaker 1>tent for whatever reason, that image just got imprinted on

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<v Speaker 1>it as a core memory as opposed to the camp

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<v Speaker 1>where you had more experiences and saw more people in

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<v Speaker 1>sites and sounds, there's more memories to make of it

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to that one super key core mean exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>I could see the point.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually researched what determines how vivid the memory is

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<v Speaker 3>in humans. There's been studies on it, and you would

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<v Speaker 3>think that it was how many times it's repeated, But

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<v Speaker 3>that's actually like second or third as the reason why

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<v Speaker 3>a memory is vivid. So here's my point. I start

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<v Speaker 3>giving the example of your your name is different as

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<v Speaker 3>an example of what it's like to experience Mandela, and

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<v Speaker 3>people say, oh, well that's different. You know, your memory

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<v Speaker 3>is repeated over and over again, so of course that's

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<v Speaker 3>a vivid. But you know the monopoly guy not having

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<v Speaker 3>a monocle. No no, no, no, no, you can't dictate

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<v Speaker 3>to me how vivid memory is. Nobody knows that Dans

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<v Speaker 3>chapter two says nobody knows the spirit of a man

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<v Speaker 3>except the man.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, Amen, sir, Amen to that big a bull.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's it right there, in a nutshell, that's what

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<v Speaker 3>it's like. It's not up for debate, okay, because what

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<v Speaker 3>you now have, and you can confirm this is you

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<v Speaker 3>can go to TikTok and I don't know how many

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<v Speaker 3>channels you find, hundreds thousands. I set it up so

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<v Speaker 3>I can see how many searches are on YouTube. There's

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<v Speaker 3>about three hundred thousands searches. I think it's a day.

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<v Speaker 3>It might be a month either way for the term

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<v Speaker 3>and Dell effect on just on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's probably per day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, So it's just thousands and thousands of channels,

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<v Speaker 3>some of them like Jacob Israel's channel. He's got two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred thousand subscribers just on that one channel. Wow. So

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<v Speaker 3>this is not a few people in their mom's basement

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<v Speaker 3>and it's being amplified by the Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>Please, right, Yeah, there's a there's not some kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Mass psychosis going on here, Like there's.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely could be that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but how do you explain that?

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<v Speaker 3>Then? Mas?

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<v Speaker 1>You thank you if you will.

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<v Speaker 3>Never before in history has there been any recorded event

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<v Speaker 3>where at least hundreds of thousands, probably millions of people

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<v Speaker 3>are all reporting that many, many things in their life

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<v Speaker 3>are now no longer as vividly remembered. So so my

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<v Speaker 3>first observation for all your listeners is this, since since

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<v Speaker 3>nothing like this has ever happened, and you can verify

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<v Speaker 3>that there's hundreds of thousands or millions of people reporting

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<v Speaker 3>that their world has turned upside down, okay, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>never happened to them before, would you agree that that

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<v Speaker 3>in and of itself is a phenomenon?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, okay, So let me so why this is

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<v Speaker 3>so important? Because the number one argument to explain the

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<v Speaker 3>Mandel effect is you're just misremembering.

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<v Speaker 2>So it couldn't be a phenomenon if you're just missing man,

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<v Speaker 2>got you?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Can't it both way?

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<v Speaker 1>Break that down? The way you break it down.

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<v Speaker 3>Is seven years, seven years, and I just get hammered

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<v Speaker 3>with your misremembery No, because you can't have it both ways.

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<v Speaker 3>What that is misremembering argument is trying to put something

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<v Speaker 3>unexplainable back into a naturalistic Oh I could clear this

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<v Speaker 3>up for you, John, You're just confusing the platter's peanut

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<v Speaker 3>guy with the Monopoly guy. Well, is that a fact

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<v Speaker 3>or is that your opinion? I mean, how do you

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<v Speaker 3>crawl in my head and know whatever? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's you know, we're ultimately trying to find

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<v Speaker 2>proof at this point of another reality, and if we're

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<v Speaker 2>no longer in that reality, then it's gonna be very

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<v Speaker 2>difficult to find proof unless it's being manipulated on purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is where some people will say, See, they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're you know, they're they're erasing all the books, they're

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<v Speaker 2>book burning, and they're getting rid of all the data,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole dead Internet theory and everything else. And until somebody,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe goes up in their attic and they

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<v Speaker 2>find an old box from twenty years ago and they

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<v Speaker 2>go into the fucking Monopoly board game and they whip

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<v Speaker 2>out one of those Monopoly dollar bills and wouldn't you

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<v Speaker 2>know it a fucking monocle being worn by the Monopoly guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, this shit happens all the time.

422
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<v Speaker 2>So what reality are we living in? And is that

423
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<v Speaker 2>old reality that we remember everything from is it slowly

424
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<v Speaker 2>being pulled away or was it a snap and it

425
00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:10.079
<v Speaker 2>just happened like that. That's you know, that's the weird

426
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<v Speaker 2>thing you got to look into with that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me throw out a hypothetical. Man, Now, we know

428
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<v Speaker 1>that the government has technology right now that we won't

429
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<v Speaker 1>see for another thirty to arguably fifty years, right at

430
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<v Speaker 1>least in the in the very best example is possible,

431
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<v Speaker 1>we could say twenty years. Okay, So that means that

432
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<v Speaker 1>the government has had AI operationally and working since at

433
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<v Speaker 1>least the nineties. That is your biggest fear with any

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<v Speaker 1>hear me out real quick, just for two seconds. We

435
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<v Speaker 1>know that AI right now could go and scrub the

436
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<v Speaker 1>entire Internet of something to where you'll never find it

437
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<v Speaker 1>again if you.

438
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<v Speaker 2>Program it to do that right one hundred percent.

439
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<v Speaker 1>So what do you think could have possibly happened with

440
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<v Speaker 1>some technology we've never heard of back in the day,

441
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<v Speaker 1>when like cable news network was like a credible source.

442
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<v Speaker 1>How easy would it have been to change everything immediately?

443
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<v Speaker 1>Just rewrite some computer codes to where the planner's peanut

444
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<v Speaker 1>guy looks like this, the monopoly cards no longer have

445
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<v Speaker 1>the monocle, and like never mention it to anybody and

446
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<v Speaker 1>then immediately stop mentioning it online. Go ahead and change it,

447
00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:11.440
<v Speaker 1>and everybody's like, how easy do you think that would

448
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<v Speaker 1>actually be to accomplish?

449
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<v Speaker 2>Way back then, well, there's that, But then you know,

450
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<v Speaker 2>the big question is is like, okay, let's say AI

451
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<v Speaker 2>is really the one taking it all off the internet.

452
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<v Speaker 1>That's only the internet. No, no, no, But I'm saying

453
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<v Speaker 1>the Mandela effect that everybody starts thinking about what would

454
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<v Speaker 1>you say in your experience and your your studies on this,

455
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<v Speaker 1>You say that it's a mass group of people that,

456
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<v Speaker 1>for the first time in human history are saying this, right?

457
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<v Speaker 1>Is it all based around arguably the seventies, eighties or nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>The awareness of this eventmen, Yes.

459
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<v Speaker 1>When people really started saying like, wait a minute, hold on,

460
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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't make sense. I remember this. When would you

461
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<v Speaker 1>say that that really started to take hold?

462
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<v Speaker 2>Well, that kicked off with the Mandela effect?

463
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<v Speaker 1>Well no, no, no, nodella right, right? And when did

464
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<v Speaker 1>that really become a thing?

465
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<v Speaker 3>Markers? One of them, interestingly enough, is July twenty seventeen,

466
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<v Speaker 3>which is right, is the exact month that CERN claims

467
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<v Speaker 3>to turn up their collider to one hundred percent power? Yes,

468
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<v Speaker 3>July twenty seventeen. If you look at Google analytics on

469
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<v Speaker 3>the term Mendel effect. That's when the scale goes straight up.

470
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's I have come.

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<v Speaker 3>To believe that the D wave computer is at least

472
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<v Speaker 3>partially responsible for the mandelifect. And I'll tell you why.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys ever listen to Cliff High at all.

474
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<v Speaker 1>The name's familiar, don't.

475
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<v Speaker 3>All, right, Cliff high is He's like, he's like, uh,

476
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<v Speaker 3>mega mind, Okay, this guy's IQ's off the charts. So

477
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<v Speaker 3>he's a he's a linguist and a programmer. Back in

478
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<v Speaker 3>the eighties, he decided to make like a spider that

479
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<v Speaker 3>goes out on the Internet to search what people were

480
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<v Speaker 3>talking about to try to get edge to trade stock.

481
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<v Speaker 3>So he was gonna get the people are chatting about

482
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<v Speaker 3>and then have these algorithms that would give him a

483
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<v Speaker 3>leg up on what stocks to buy before they went up, right, Okay, okay,

484
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<v Speaker 3>So what happened was is the thing started bringing returns

485
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<v Speaker 3>back that were making predictions. He called it the data set.

486
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<v Speaker 3>And I was watching him when he was rolling this out,

487
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<v Speaker 3>and I remember once specifically he said, the data set

488
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<v Speaker 3>indicates that a lake in Peru is going to empty

489
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<v Speaker 3>out overnight. So I'm like, okay, I put it on

490
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<v Speaker 3>my phone, I'm bros, I'm telling youse. Guy's my witness.

491
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<v Speaker 3>Like two months later, at Lake in Peru, emptied out overnight.

492
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<v Speaker 3>I was like what, so did it? He did? How?

493
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<v Speaker 1>And why it was gonna happen or just that.

494
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<v Speaker 3>I I don't remember specifics. All I remember is when

495
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<v Speaker 3>I saw that happen, I was like what And so

496
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<v Speaker 3>I started watching them closer, and there was like two

497
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<v Speaker 3>or three other predictions. There's no way he could have known. Okay,

498
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<v Speaker 3>So what he basically found out is that human beings

499
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<v Speaker 3>are minorly clairvoyant, is what he said. Oh, and they

500
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<v Speaker 3>are talking about things that they're getting, like a vibe

501
00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:11.359
<v Speaker 3>from the quantum real Like me and my kids used

502
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<v Speaker 3>to stand when you get a bank of elevators and

503
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<v Speaker 3>you would sense which elevator the door was going to open.

504
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<v Speaker 1>We play that game, yeah, and I.

505
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<v Speaker 3>Would always have an exceedingly high number of guessing it right.

506
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<v Speaker 3>And there's been three times in my life. Remember one

507
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<v Speaker 3>time we were at our house and the power went out.

508
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<v Speaker 3>So me and my brother and my wife were sitting

509
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<v Speaker 3>on the front porch and the power had been out

510
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<v Speaker 3>for like four hours. Okay, so I'm sitting there and

511
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<v Speaker 3>we're just talking and that this was so weird because

512
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<v Speaker 3>I didn't think about it. I wonder if the power's

513
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<v Speaker 3>going to come on. Now, I'm sitting there and all

514
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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, just out of my mouth comes the

515
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<v Speaker 3>power is going to go on in six seconds. It

516
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<v Speaker 3>just came out of my mouth. And my brother, because

517
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<v Speaker 3>I'd done this once before with him, he knew I

518
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<v Speaker 3>had that, like gift or whatever. So he starts counting

519
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<v Speaker 3>down five, four, three, two one pop. Power came back. Gone.

520
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<v Speaker 3>All right. So people call it the Accostic records. They

521
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<v Speaker 3>call it whatever you're tapped in, God speaking to you.

522
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<v Speaker 3>Whatever it is, there is a connection that we can

523
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<v Speaker 3>have that it's not from your head. There's a scripture

524
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<v Speaker 3>that talks about it. It says the peace of God

525
00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:36.160
<v Speaker 3>which passes knowledge, Keep your heart in Christ Jesus. So epigonosis.

526
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<v Speaker 3>You can have a knowing like people that didn't get

527
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<v Speaker 3>on the Titanic because they had an what do you

528
00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:46.240
<v Speaker 3>call it, not intuition but a sixth sense, a premonition. Yeah, right,

529
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<v Speaker 3>a my spidey sentense is thing I'm not going.

530
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<v Speaker 2>Same thing with the Twin Towers and nine to eleven y. Yeah,

531
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<v Speaker 2>there is definitely some kind of you know, and and

532
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what kind of like state you have

533
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<v Speaker 2>to be in mentally in order to be able to

534
00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:08.200
<v Speaker 2>perceive those premonitions or those those little nudges from the

535
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<v Speaker 2>other side.

536
00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:11.480
<v Speaker 1>So to say, who's to say that's not hereditary. The

537
00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:15.519
<v Speaker 1>Bible also talks about hereditary blessings and hereditary curses. So

538
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:18.319
<v Speaker 1>is it possible if you have some sort of spiritual

539
00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:23.599
<v Speaker 1>gift from your bloodline somehow hereditarily passed? Was to say

540
00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:24.960
<v Speaker 1>that happen.

541
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<v Speaker 3>All of us have this. This called it minor clairvonence.

542
00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:33.480
<v Speaker 3>So what happened was just to give him some creds. First, Okay,

543
00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:36.759
<v Speaker 3>so the guy's totally got creds. So what he did

544
00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:41.480
<v Speaker 3>then was he pointed the spider at the geographic location

545
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:44.759
<v Speaker 3>of the D wave of computers, and he said there

546
00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:48.640
<v Speaker 3>was a direct correlation between where these things were located.

547
00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Like Columbia has one, Google has one, there's more than one.

548
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<v Speaker 3>He said, there was a very high concentration of reports

549
00:27:56.119 --> 00:27:58.319
<v Speaker 3>of Mandela effects in and around the D wave of

550
00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:03.839
<v Speaker 3>computer which was very compelling data. Right. Well, then he

551
00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:08.680
<v Speaker 3>explains how the cube it works. So Jordi Rose is

552
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:12.319
<v Speaker 3>the D Way guy and he talked about how they

553
00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:17.640
<v Speaker 3>deposit the product. He called it into another dimension, because

554
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<v Speaker 3>when you go to the quantum realm where things are

555
00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:25.519
<v Speaker 3>super tiny, it's actually another dimension. So they utilize this

556
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<v Speaker 3>difference of these dimensions, and this is how the cubits work.

557
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<v Speaker 3>They work on probabilities, whereas the regular computer just works

558
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<v Speaker 3>on ones and zeros. There's actually four probabilities for the

559
00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:39.119
<v Speaker 3>same thing, so it can do in a second what

560
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<v Speaker 3>a tray a craze supercomputer would take a month to do.

561
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<v Speaker 3>It's bizarre, right.

562
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<v Speaker 2>A cubit is the tiniest little uh like information holder

563
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<v Speaker 2>out there.

564
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<v Speaker 3>Well, I give to explain what a cub it is,

565
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:59.359
<v Speaker 3>but here's here's what they found. Human intent would disrupt

566
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<v Speaker 3>the cube its ability to function, so it would be

567
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:04.759
<v Speaker 3>operating and somebody would walk by and it would shut

568
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:08.240
<v Speaker 3>it down. So they had to begin then place the

569
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:11.720
<v Speaker 3>cube it inside of a canister and bring it down

570
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<v Speaker 3>to close to zero Calvin to try to create a

571
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<v Speaker 3>vacuum of human awareness for the cubit.

572
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<v Speaker 1>WHOA.

573
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<v Speaker 3>Well, then that didn't even work as well because you

574
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<v Speaker 3>still have to have a regular computer to program it.

575
00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:30.039
<v Speaker 3>And so when you programmed it with the keyboard, that

576
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:34.279
<v Speaker 3>was like putting human intent and it wouldn't work. So

577
00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:38.720
<v Speaker 3>they literally had to create this elaborate and like mousetrap

578
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:41.480
<v Speaker 3>thing where you put the what you want the computer

579
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:43.559
<v Speaker 3>to do, and then it would send a ball down

580
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:46.160
<v Speaker 3>in a little slope and then it would blow air.

581
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<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you, it's so bizarre man to completely isolate

582
00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:54.319
<v Speaker 3>the cube it from any human intent. All right, So

583
00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:59.960
<v Speaker 3>what you basically have. You have a human intent vacuum

584
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:04.960
<v Speaker 3>or a human awareness vacuum in space, right and from

585
00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:10.279
<v Speaker 3>that point in space out from there is a concentration

586
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:14.480
<v Speaker 3>of Mandela effect reports. Think about that for ten seconds.

587
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<v Speaker 3>That's a mind blow.

588
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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, dude.

589
00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes, we know how how strong the human intent is

590
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.720
<v Speaker 2>whenever it's whenever it gets into Like we've talked about

591
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<v Speaker 2>the random number generator that if you have the intention

592
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<v Speaker 2>on a scale of one to ten, if you have

593
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<v Speaker 2>the intention on a specific number, then the possibilities, the

594
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<v Speaker 2>percentage of a chance of it actually getting on the

595
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:45.079
<v Speaker 2>number that you had intended in your mind, we'll raise like,

596
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<v Speaker 2>I think fifteen or twenty percent.

597
00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:47.960
<v Speaker 1>So what the hell is that?

598
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:48.160
<v Speaker 3>Like?

599
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:51.799
<v Speaker 2>What, like, why is our intent so strong at manipulating

600
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:54.720
<v Speaker 2>things outside of us? That we're not even speaking into existence,

601
00:30:54.759 --> 00:30:56.119
<v Speaker 2>it's just thought form.

602
00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:59.319
<v Speaker 3>So cool. Did you guys ever study the like the

603
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:00.599
<v Speaker 3>two slitting experiment?

604
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely?

605
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:06.359
<v Speaker 3>Man, that tells the story because basically what it proved

606
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:11.599
<v Speaker 3>is that our construct is interacting with us and essentially

607
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:16.839
<v Speaker 3>morphing to our belief systems, our thoughts, and our intentions.

608
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:20.039
<v Speaker 3>Has to do with intentions because when you when you

609
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:22.799
<v Speaker 3>were just spraying the particles, you only got two lines

610
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:24.720
<v Speaker 3>on the photo electric cell. But as soon as you

611
00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:29.279
<v Speaker 3>turned the camera on, the particles stopped acting like particles

612
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:31.119
<v Speaker 3>and they started acting like waves, and you got a

613
00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:34.960
<v Speaker 3>displacement pattern, and they were like what Then they turned

614
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.359
<v Speaker 3>the camera off and went back to particles. They turned

615
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:41.079
<v Speaker 3>the camera on, it went back to waves. It freaked scientists.

616
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<v Speaker 2>So it's not even the human that is observing. It

617
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:46.319
<v Speaker 2>could just be anything observing it even something as like

618
00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:47.799
<v Speaker 2>simple as a camera.

619
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<v Speaker 1>Basically adams know when they're being watched the observer effect.

620
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:55.279
<v Speaker 3>Wow, So what does that tell you?

621
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<v Speaker 2>Well, this rate here, I mean you're talking about you know,

622
00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:03.640
<v Speaker 2>sending information through through a vacuum of human awareness, essentially

623
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:06.480
<v Speaker 2>getting rid of the human awareness factor at all, so

624
00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:09.920
<v Speaker 2>that it doesn't play any factor into determining whatever kind

625
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:13.519
<v Speaker 2>of information it stumbles across, and that you know that

626
00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:19.240
<v Speaker 2>being kind of siphoned away and separated is allowing this

627
00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:22.400
<v Speaker 2>machine or whatever to determine what the future is.

628
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:27.079
<v Speaker 3>Well, all I'm saying the observation that I'm making is

629
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<v Speaker 3>you know, because you asked, how is this happening? Or

630
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<v Speaker 3>you know, how's it happening? Well, that's my best shot

631
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<v Speaker 3>at explaining what's causing the Mandel effect. I don't think

632
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:41.759
<v Speaker 3>it's the only thing, but there if he's not lying,

633
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:45.599
<v Speaker 3>then there seems to be a direct correlation between a

634
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<v Speaker 3>human awareness vacuum and space and then a higher concentration

635
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<v Speaker 3>of reports. Because remember his spider goes out onto the

636
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<v Speaker 3>Internet and it listens to all the people talking and

637
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:00.880
<v Speaker 3>then it maps what the data is. So he gets

638
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:03.759
<v Speaker 3>a data set and he could see graphically that there's

639
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:07.960
<v Speaker 3>a higher concentration in and around the D wave where

640
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:10.799
<v Speaker 3>there's a human awareness vacuum. That's crazy, man.

641
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:14.079
<v Speaker 2>So this spider is is it essentially like an AI

642
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:16.720
<v Speaker 2>that is going out and just collecting a bunch of information?

643
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:17.799
<v Speaker 1>Is that what you're saying.

644
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:20.720
<v Speaker 3>It's very sophisticated, and I've listened to him and talk

645
00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:24.400
<v Speaker 3>about how he programs it, and your mind just melts

646
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:28.480
<v Speaker 3>because the guy's super genius. So it's basically looking at

647
00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:33.680
<v Speaker 3>it's looking at the emotional quality of the words, you know,

648
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:37.200
<v Speaker 3>like I could say hi, or I could say hey man,

649
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:42.160
<v Speaker 3>So there's emotional intensity that it measures. And then a

650
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:44.079
<v Speaker 3>number of times it's set and there are different words,

651
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:45.880
<v Speaker 3>and he puts it all together and then it comes

652
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:49.400
<v Speaker 3>back with a data set that then is making predictions

653
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.720
<v Speaker 3>about the future. It's really cool, dude, you know.

654
00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:55.640
<v Speaker 2>And a lot of people got real sketched out whenever

655
00:33:55.680 --> 00:33:58.599
<v Speaker 2>they actually started building CERN. And then the statues they

656
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:03.200
<v Speaker 2>put outside a fucking CERN, which is the Hindu Shiva

657
00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:08.519
<v Speaker 2>the Destroyer, which a lot of people found very you know, intriguing.

658
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:09.199
<v Speaker 1>Of all things.

659
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<v Speaker 2>You're trying to create some kind of black hole or

660
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:13.960
<v Speaker 2>some other open up another dimension or something like that,

661
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:17.079
<v Speaker 2>and you put fucking Shiva the Destroyer out in front

662
00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:19.480
<v Speaker 2>of your building, bro, Like, what kind of message does

663
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:19.960
<v Speaker 2>that send?

664
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<v Speaker 1>And let's not forget that America was trying to build

665
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<v Speaker 1>one better than they did. They had what they soak

666
00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>like thirteen billion dollars into a giant hole in Texas

667
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:31.679
<v Speaker 1>that was supposed to be the absolute latest and greatest

668
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<v Speaker 1>and best collider ever. And then they just said fuck

669
00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:36.719
<v Speaker 1>it and just said no, we're not funding this anymore

670
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<v Speaker 1>because Reagan got out of office.

671
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<v Speaker 3>No way.

672
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it was a massive project. They had

673
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>all the best engineers working on it. They had a

674
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<v Speaker 1>collider going on in California, and the Reagan came in

675
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:52.400
<v Speaker 1>and basically just wanted to pump as much money as

676
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:56.800
<v Speaker 1>he could into all the sciences, all the technology. If

677
00:34:56.800 --> 00:34:58.400
<v Speaker 1>there was a way for us to have an advantage

678
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:01.400
<v Speaker 1>over everybody else, we had to do it. And so yeah,

679
00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:05.440
<v Speaker 1>it was the super conducting super collider. Oh right, And

680
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:07.760
<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, that was a big thing. It was built

681
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<v Speaker 1>underground in Texas and only like I want to say,

682
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<v Speaker 1>like a quarter of it, actually the whole for a

683
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:15.719
<v Speaker 1>quarter of it got dug and then less of it

684
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:18.000
<v Speaker 1>even got built. And then they just said yeah, never mind,

685
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:20.960
<v Speaker 1>because whenever they realized how expensive it was actually going

686
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<v Speaker 1>to be, they low balled the budget so bad and

687
00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:26.960
<v Speaker 1>then it was mismanaged and mismanaged and mismanaged so bad

688
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.880
<v Speaker 1>that it was like thirteen billion dollars that they just burned.

689
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:31.280
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, yeah, never mind.

690
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:33.599
<v Speaker 2>They were trying to create another dimension for all those

691
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:36.159
<v Speaker 2>Cowboys fans because they haven't won a playoff game in forever.

692
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:40.199
<v Speaker 2>They were like, this isn't the one get us in

693
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:41.199
<v Speaker 2>another dimension?

694
00:35:41.400 --> 00:35:42.079
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god?

695
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:46.360
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, yeah, dude, so what's an example of a

696
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:51.360
<v Speaker 2>biblical Mandela effect that has actually gone on? I know

697
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:53.239
<v Speaker 2>that last time you kind of brought up about what

698
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:56.519
<v Speaker 2>was it, the the wolf and the lion or something

699
00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:58.480
<v Speaker 2>like that, the lamb and the lion or something.

700
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yep, yep, yep. I'm give you a couple of examples.

701
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<v Speaker 3>But let me just finish on CERN, because what's so

702
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:07.239
<v Speaker 3>incredibly cool about CERN is what you started talking about.

703
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:09.519
<v Speaker 3>But there's way more than that. If you look at

704
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:13.000
<v Speaker 3>their logo, it's clearly a six sixty six. Now this

705
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:17.400
<v Speaker 3>is supposed to be a bunch of scientists, right. They

706
00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:20.440
<v Speaker 3>put out a video. The only video they put out

707
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:25.400
<v Speaker 3>is called Synchronicity. You can look it up on YouTube. Okay,

708
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:29.280
<v Speaker 3>that's what it's called synchronicity. I'll look at it. Make

709
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:30.800
<v Speaker 3>sure I got the name mark. It is the most

710
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:33.280
<v Speaker 3>a cultic, uh?

711
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<v Speaker 1>Is that the one where they talk about how they're

712
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:37.800
<v Speaker 1>going in working with dark matter, antimatter and they're like, oh,

713
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:38.679
<v Speaker 1>I talked about it.

714
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:41.679
<v Speaker 3>People dancing around, and it's got these dude like this

715
00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:44.239
<v Speaker 3>dude that looks like Satan and all this stuff falling

716
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:47.320
<v Speaker 3>into the abyss and uh, let me see.

717
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Hold on, sir, here, we got to rate here for

718
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:52.320
<v Speaker 2>all the Patreon rock fan members, the CERN logo clearly

719
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:54.800
<v Speaker 2>looks like a bunch of sixes, just like the Google Chrome.

720
00:36:55.519 --> 00:36:57.679
<v Speaker 1>Now, what they are gonna say is that that is no,

721
00:36:57.760 --> 00:36:59.840
<v Speaker 1>that's supposed to be remnant of the arc that the

722
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Adams travel through their collider thing. I'm sure that that's

723
00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:05.960
<v Speaker 1>what they're gonna say. However, that's way too many tubes

724
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:07.559
<v Speaker 1>and this is supposed to be a figure eight.

725
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:09.480
<v Speaker 2>This is symmetry.

726
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:13.239
<v Speaker 3>It's it's not I said it. The video is symmetry.

727
00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:16.159
<v Speaker 3>So if you look at their video, it is it's

728
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:21.440
<v Speaker 3>so bizarre. It's just all this dark a cult imagery

729
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:24.079
<v Speaker 3>with dancing and this guy that's dressed in a robe

730
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:26.639
<v Speaker 3>and he's falling it. I mean, it's totally a cult.

731
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:31.159
<v Speaker 3>It's totally cult. Now, the Bible in the Book of

732
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:35.559
<v Speaker 3>Revelation actually talks about CERN. In my humble opinion, this

733
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:39.760
<v Speaker 3>Revelation chapter nine and the Fifth Angel sounded, and I

734
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:43.280
<v Speaker 3>saw a star fall from heaven onto the earth, and

735
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:47.519
<v Speaker 3>to him, this is the Angel, was given a key

736
00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:51.960
<v Speaker 3>of the bottomless pit, and he opened the bottomless pit,

737
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.039
<v Speaker 3>and there arose of smoke out of the pit, as

738
00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:56.679
<v Speaker 3>the smoke of a gray furnace, and the sun and

739
00:37:56.719 --> 00:37:58.960
<v Speaker 3>the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of

740
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:01.519
<v Speaker 3>the pit, and that came out to fit the smoke

741
00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:05.519
<v Speaker 3>of locusts, and unto them was given the power of scorpions,

742
00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:10.960
<v Speaker 3>and over all the power of the earth. Um, come on,

743
00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:11.920
<v Speaker 3>where is.

744
00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:17.639
<v Speaker 2>It the internet? Always doing Internet things? That's wild, dude,

745
00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:19.039
<v Speaker 2>that's not it.

746
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:20.760
<v Speaker 3>I got you gotta give me another second.

747
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:25.039
<v Speaker 2>Your time, sir. We want this to be as beautiful

748
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<v Speaker 2>as humanly possible.

749
00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:28.679
<v Speaker 1>Always, man. And you know what, while you're going ahead

750
00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:31.079
<v Speaker 1>and looking for that, if anybody is digging the content

751
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:33.679
<v Speaker 1>that is being discussed at this moment or anything that

752
00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:36.599
<v Speaker 1>you've heard us say thus far in previous episodes, and

753
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:39.119
<v Speaker 1>maybe you haven't gone ahead and done this thing. You

754
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:41.679
<v Speaker 1>know it doesn't take much. But you know, while you

755
00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:43.440
<v Speaker 1>got your thumbs in, they're free right now. We know

756
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:45.760
<v Speaker 1>you're listening on your Spotify and your Apple podcasts. Most

757
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:48.159
<v Speaker 1>of you are anyway at this time, if you haven't

758
00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:50.880
<v Speaker 1>already gone and done so, hit the five stars, hit

759
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:52.679
<v Speaker 1>the share the like, subscribe to comments, leave off you,

760
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:55.239
<v Speaker 1>leave a post, leave a comment, Share with the friends, families,

761
00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>and loved ones, and even the people that you don't like,

762
00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:59.320
<v Speaker 1>because they need to be opening up the third eye

763
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:01.519
<v Speaker 1>as well. Here's the way this works. The more all

764
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:04.760
<v Speaker 1>of our algorithms see activity, regardless of what manner, we

765
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:08.119
<v Speaker 1>get more promotion from it. Okay, they see activity, they

766
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:10.199
<v Speaker 1>pump us out to more potential listeners, who could then

767
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:12.800
<v Speaker 1>become potential cult members. Like the rest of you find

768
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:16.400
<v Speaker 1>ladies and gentlemen and everything in between. There's nothing in between.

769
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:19.119
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, thank you for everybody's already going.

770
00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:21.360
<v Speaker 2>To always and girls. I guess that would be the

771
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:22.000
<v Speaker 2>in between.

772
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Maybe and that and word you're right, that is the

773
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:28.800
<v Speaker 1>in between. And yeah there it is inclusive and is

774
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:35.920
<v Speaker 1>an inclusive word, and see you did it, including yeah

775
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:36.679
<v Speaker 1>you fucking did it?

776
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:39.559
<v Speaker 3>Ah, all right, I actually I was in the right place.

777
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:42.840
<v Speaker 3>I just didn't read far off. This verse eleven says this,

778
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:46.199
<v Speaker 3>and they had a king over them, which is the

779
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:48.880
<v Speaker 3>Angel of the Bottomless Fit, whose name in the Hebrew

780
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:51.159
<v Speaker 3>tongue was the Baden, but in the Greek tongue his

781
00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:55.559
<v Speaker 3>name is a Polyon. Okay. So here's the long story short.

782
00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:57.440
<v Speaker 3>An angel is given a key.

783
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:02.000
<v Speaker 5>The key is Cern, okay, and out of the pit

784
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:06.400
<v Speaker 5>with the key comes this dude who's the ruler of

785
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:11.280
<v Speaker 5>all these bad you know, hybrid dudes. Right, scorp flying scorpions.

786
00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:15.480
<v Speaker 5>It's bad scenario, bad juju. Right, we'll check this out.

787
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<v Speaker 3>The town in France where cern hold On, where Cern

788
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:28.880
<v Speaker 3>is situated, is called Saint Genus Polia. The name Polia

789
00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:32.440
<v Speaker 3>comes from the Latin Apolycum, and it just believes that

790
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:35.719
<v Speaker 3>in roment times a temple existed in honor of Apollo,

791
00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:38.519
<v Speaker 3>and the people who lived there believed that it was

792
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:44.119
<v Speaker 3>a gateway to the underworld. Ha, what dude. The Cern

793
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:47.239
<v Speaker 3>is built on an ancient temple to the god Apollo,

794
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:50.159
<v Speaker 3>and the Bible says that the key will be given

795
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:54.119
<v Speaker 3>and out down he'll come, and they'll open the pit,

796
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:56.239
<v Speaker 3>and out of the pit will come Apollion.

797
00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:59.639
<v Speaker 1>So here's the thing. On a cult level, Apollo, the

798
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:03.719
<v Speaker 1>sun god, is very very very important because the occult

799
00:41:03.800 --> 00:41:06.280
<v Speaker 1>takes that into what is known as the Black Sun

800
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:09.800
<v Speaker 1>or the bastardization of the good and the holy. So

801
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:13.039
<v Speaker 1>when you have a cult turning in with the alchemy

802
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:15.599
<v Speaker 1>and then the city built off of what they said

803
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:18.639
<v Speaker 1>was oh man, it's insane.

804
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:21.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, none of that really surprises me because you know,

805
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:25.800
<v Speaker 2>you look into Aleister Crowley and his favorite kind of

806
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:30.400
<v Speaker 2>magic was chaos magic, right, And we actually just covered

807
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:33.320
<v Speaker 2>this last night on Meta. But what's really interesting about

808
00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:37.440
<v Speaker 2>chaos magic is, you know, anytime you can kind of

809
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:40.360
<v Speaker 2>label anything as good, right, like.

810
00:41:41.800 --> 00:41:43.880
<v Speaker 1>The you know what, let me actually pull it up here.

811
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<v Speaker 2>There's something no I know that, but in your mind

812
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:51.719
<v Speaker 2>you can label it as good, and there's uh, there's

813
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:53.519
<v Speaker 2>there's stuff you can do with that.

814
00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Let me let me actually pull it

815
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<v Speaker 1>up here.

816
00:41:57.039 --> 00:42:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Like brainwashing essentially, Yeah, you're you can brainwash yourself to

817
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:04.960
<v Speaker 2>believe that everything that's happening to you is a good thing.

818
00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:10.440
<v Speaker 2>It says the founding figures of Chaos Magic believed that

819
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<v Speaker 2>that other occult traditions had to had become too religious

820
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:18.440
<v Speaker 2>in character. They attempted to strip away the symbolic, ritualistic, theological,

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<v Speaker 2>or otherwise ornamental aspects of these occult traditions to leave

822
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<v Speaker 2>behind a set of basic techniques that that uh that

823
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:28.559
<v Speaker 2>they believe to be the basis of magic. Chaos magic

824
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<v Speaker 2>teaches that the essence of magic is that perceptions are

825
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<v Speaker 2>conditioned by beliefs, and that the the world that we

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<v Speaker 2>as the that the world as we perceive it, can

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<v Speaker 2>be changed by deliberately changing those beliefs. Chaos magicians subsequently

828
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<v Speaker 2>treat belief as a tool, often creating their own idiosyncratic

829
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:55.039
<v Speaker 2>magical systems and frequently frequently borrowing from other magical traditions,

830
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:59.159
<v Speaker 2>religious movements, popular culture, and various strands of philosophy. So

831
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<v Speaker 2>it's it's so to say, well, what is that right there?

832
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Their emblem is that a black Son?

833
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<v Speaker 5>Sir?

834
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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you know what, I'm not even sharing this with

835
00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:08.719
<v Speaker 2>the cult members, but let me go ahead the share.

836
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<v Speaker 1>That with the class bro because as we're talking about

837
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<v Speaker 1>black Son and the Apollo, which would be the opposite

838
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:18.360
<v Speaker 1>for the occult reasons concern being what they are, that

839
00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:20.840
<v Speaker 1>sure looks like a black Son to me, sir, Yeah,

840
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<v Speaker 1>it says.

841
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:26.199
<v Speaker 2>The symbol of chaos originates from Michael Moore cox elric

842
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:30.440
<v Speaker 2>of Something stories and their dichotomy of law and chaos

843
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:34.280
<v Speaker 2>in them. The symbol of chaos comprises eight arrows in

844
00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:40.079
<v Speaker 2>a radial pattern. Hmm, interest magic All right, well, yeah,

845
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:41.639
<v Speaker 2>I just kind of wanted to bring that up because

846
00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:44.559
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know, the essentially, if you get

847
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:47.679
<v Speaker 2>deep enough into chaos magic, whenever you stub your toe

848
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:51.000
<v Speaker 2>in the morning and it's hurting like a bitch, you

849
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:54.519
<v Speaker 2>can train your mind to think, oh, yes, that was

850
00:43:54.559 --> 00:43:56.639
<v Speaker 2>such a good thing, thank god that happened to me

851
00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:57.159
<v Speaker 2>this morning.

852
00:43:57.239 --> 00:43:59.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you enjoy pain. There's a whole thing.

853
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:04.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the essence of magic, is like essentially right, Well,

854
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:08.519
<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's essentially your your brainwashing yourself to believe

855
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:11.639
<v Speaker 2>that everything that's happening to you is for a good,

856
00:44:11.719 --> 00:44:12.559
<v Speaker 2>magical reason.

857
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:15.800
<v Speaker 3>This is a cool topic. I'm actually doing a lot

858
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:18.039
<v Speaker 3>of research on this right now. I'm developing a talk

859
00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:20.760
<v Speaker 3>which is basically, you know, you got the guys that

860
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:25.920
<v Speaker 3>teach the secret and manifesting. There's a lot of validity

861
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:28.639
<v Speaker 3>to what they're saying. And then you got the staith

862
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:33.320
<v Speaker 3>prosperity people who ran with that and they made it work.

863
00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:37.840
<v Speaker 3>So there's a scripture in Genesis, chapter thirty, verse thirty seven.

864
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:41.880
<v Speaker 3>It says Jacob took for himself rods of green poplar

865
00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:45.119
<v Speaker 3>and of the almond and chestnut trees. He peeled white

866
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:47.800
<v Speaker 3>stripes in them and exposed the white which was on

867
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:50.719
<v Speaker 3>the rods and the rods which he peeled. He set

868
00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:54.280
<v Speaker 3>the flocks in gutters in the watering troughs where the

869
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:56.960
<v Speaker 3>flocks would drink, so that they should conceive when they

870
00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:59.440
<v Speaker 3>because he kind of deal with Laban. He said, all

871
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:03.159
<v Speaker 3>the cow that are born spotted will be mine, yep,

872
00:45:03.239 --> 00:45:05.480
<v Speaker 3>and then all of the ones that aren't spotted be yours.

873
00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:08.360
<v Speaker 3>So he takes a rod and he makes spots on it,

874
00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:10.199
<v Speaker 3>and he sticks it where they drink water.

875
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:11.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

876
00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:13.239
<v Speaker 3>What the Bible tells us is, look.

877
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:14.719
<v Speaker 1>It's a bit of a schemer. That's actually what the

878
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:15.760
<v Speaker 1>name Jacob means.

879
00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:19.679
<v Speaker 3>That's right, No shit, huh Yeah, you would know, wouldn't you.

880
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:23.719
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't. Fact, I wouldn't schem it is scheamer and

881
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:27.239
<v Speaker 1>or grabber of thy brother's ankle if you will. Hey,

882
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:30.039
<v Speaker 1>you haven't grabbed our ankle yet. Nah. Nah, we hadn't

883
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:32.199
<v Speaker 1>gotten into that position yet. I suppose maybe one day.

884
00:45:33.079 --> 00:45:35.760
<v Speaker 3>Ah, all right, we'll check this out Verse forty one.

885
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:39.280
<v Speaker 3>And it came to pass whenever the stronger livestock conceived

886
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:42.000
<v Speaker 3>that Jacob placed the rods before the eyes of the

887
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:45.639
<v Speaker 3>livestock in the gutters, that they might conceive among the rods.

888
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:48.360
<v Speaker 3>But when the flocks were feedeble, he didn't put them in,

889
00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:51.960
<v Speaker 3>and so the feebler were labans in this. So basically,

890
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:55.519
<v Speaker 3>what the Bible's clearly stating here is that by putting

891
00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:59.280
<v Speaker 3>the image of the spots in front of the cattle,

892
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:02.079
<v Speaker 3>it changed their DNA and they gave fourth birth to

893
00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:07.320
<v Speaker 3>spotted cow. Oh no, it's the only conclusion I can

894
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:11.400
<v Speaker 3>come to. But then I started finding all these examples.

895
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:14.800
<v Speaker 3>Jesus cursed the fig tree, no man shall eat of

896
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:16.840
<v Speaker 3>you from this day forth. The next day they came by,

897
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:18.840
<v Speaker 3>and his disciples were like, Lord, the tree that you

898
00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:23.079
<v Speaker 3>cursed has died. He didn't pray to the father, Father,

899
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:26.079
<v Speaker 3>I ask you the curse. He did it right, Okay,

900
00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:31.079
<v Speaker 3>Mark eleven twenty three. Whosoever she'll say to this mountain

901
00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:33.480
<v Speaker 3>be that removed casting scenes, shall not down in his heart.

902
00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:35.199
<v Speaker 3>But believe these things he says, should come the past,

903
00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:36.880
<v Speaker 3>he will have whatever he says. That's what the faith

904
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:41.039
<v Speaker 3>prosperity people taught. Yeah, well, Jesus taught it okay. And

905
00:46:41.199 --> 00:46:45.440
<v Speaker 3>my point is this, he didn't say, Father God, Okay,

906
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:50.000
<v Speaker 3>it's not a prayer to God, please remove the mountain. No,

907
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:54.559
<v Speaker 3>he spoke to the mountain. Yeah, okay, So now that's

908
00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:57.280
<v Speaker 3>what you said. The basis of magic is using your

909
00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:02.519
<v Speaker 3>mind or basically what's called guide imagery to affect your

910
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:05.119
<v Speaker 3>reality like the two slit e Sperim. Whoa.

911
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:08.079
<v Speaker 2>It's just like with Neo in Bending the spoon. He's

912
00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:11.679
<v Speaker 2>not actually bending it, right, he's bending his reality essentially.

913
00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:16.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, we're what we're trying to say is is that

914
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:18.960
<v Speaker 3>because I'm coming from a biblical worldview, right, I was

915
00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:22.119
<v Speaker 3>in the church. I'm the youth pastor worship leader, ten

916
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:25.119
<v Speaker 3>years full time, twenty years lay ministry. So I'm in

917
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:33.000
<v Speaker 3>the church, right Yeah, And there's the stigma and it's taboo. Okay.

918
00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:37.679
<v Speaker 3>If I invoke Satan to bring healing, then that's sorcery,

919
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:41.519
<v Speaker 3>you know, twitchcraft. That's a no no, okay, there's no

920
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:46.599
<v Speaker 3>ambiguity there, right. If I pray for God to heal

921
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:49.239
<v Speaker 3>you in the name of Jesus, there's no confusion among

922
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Christians there either. But But if I if I spend

923
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:58.039
<v Speaker 3>time visualizing like I have on my wall, that I'm

924
00:47:58.039 --> 00:47:59.960
<v Speaker 3>going to sell fifty two books a day and I've

925
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:02.239
<v Speaker 3>twenty five thousand in my account, which you don't. I

926
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:04.960
<v Speaker 3>have eight hundred in my account, and I have a

927
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:06.719
<v Speaker 3>new car and a new truck, and there's my house.

928
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:10.840
<v Speaker 3>It's all on the wall, and I practice envisioning that

929
00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:13.480
<v Speaker 3>at night when I go to bed in the morning.

930
00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:17.239
<v Speaker 3>Is that witchcraft? Is that saucery? No? Because there's certainly

931
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:22.440
<v Speaker 3>biblical examples throughout my Bible of God's people using this

932
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:27.480
<v Speaker 3>practice of what's basically guided imagery, same thing the uh

933
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:29.280
<v Speaker 3>secret people are doing.

934
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Mm.

935
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:33.320
<v Speaker 3>But it's basically what I'm coming to. The collusion is

936
00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:37.880
<v Speaker 3>it's guilt by association. Well, if those ungodly New age

937
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:41.320
<v Speaker 3>people are doing it, then it's not of God. Well

938
00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:44.480
<v Speaker 3>that's not necessarily true. That's like that's like if the

939
00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:47.960
<v Speaker 3>devil tells me the sky is blue? Okay, does that

940
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:50.400
<v Speaker 3>mean that I don't believe the sky is blue because

941
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:51.800
<v Speaker 3>the devil told me? Right?

942
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Exactly? Yeah.

943
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:57.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean there's definitely certain things that the human mind

944
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:00.719
<v Speaker 2>is capable of, that of which you know, probably has

945
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:04.440
<v Speaker 2>been forgotten about for you know, many many generations, but

946
00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:08.239
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people have have for a lack of

947
00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:12.119
<v Speaker 2>a better word, brainwashed themselves into manipulating their own reality.

948
00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Call it magic, call it manifestation, call it whatever the

949
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:17.320
<v Speaker 2>hell you want. It's definitely not calling upon no devil.

950
00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:20.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there are definitely cases where people are I'm

951
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:24.079
<v Speaker 2>not saying that that's not happening, but you know I would.

952
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:27.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm somebody, you know, I created a whole second podcast

953
00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:29.559
<v Speaker 2>because of this shit. I want to know what we're

954
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:32.239
<v Speaker 2>absolutely capable of And if Jesus was able to look

955
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:35.800
<v Speaker 2>at a mountain without calling upon God, and he was

956
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:38.760
<v Speaker 2>able to do that himself being just a regular dude,

957
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:43.000
<v Speaker 2>like human, Yeah, human, right.

958
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:43.800
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. You know what I mean.

959
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:46.000
<v Speaker 2>And it's kind of like, yeah, I would like to learn,

960
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:48.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, if we're capable of doing that shit, well, no.

961
00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:51.159
<v Speaker 3>One step further, we're already manifesting.

962
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:51.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

963
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:54.599
<v Speaker 3>In other words, whatever, you know, you walk around all

964
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:56.800
<v Speaker 3>day sucking your teeth, rolling your eyes, and I'm a

965
00:49:56.840 --> 00:50:00.199
<v Speaker 3>wiggly worm. All that's all. That's The data is sure

966
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:03.599
<v Speaker 3>is going to give you exactly what you expect. Yeah,

967
00:50:03.880 --> 00:50:07.159
<v Speaker 3>so you just have to choose to craft your own reality.

968
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:11.199
<v Speaker 3>And basically what we're learning in quantum physics is that

969
00:50:11.239 --> 00:50:14.000
<v Speaker 3>there's an infinite number of probabilities. So you basically are

970
00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:17.599
<v Speaker 3>able to place an order for what it is that

971
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:20.440
<v Speaker 3>you do want, and then the key is experiencing it

972
00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:23.239
<v Speaker 3>because in the subconscious there is no past future, there's

973
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:23.760
<v Speaker 3>only now.

974
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:27.320
<v Speaker 1>See now. Also to your point about how like look

975
00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:30.199
<v Speaker 1>if the spiritual people are saying that it must be

976
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:32.840
<v Speaker 1>of Satan, no, there's Look, I'll give you a perfect

977
00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:35.960
<v Speaker 1>example of that, saging your house. I did that earlier today.

978
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:38.960
<v Speaker 1>So let me let me break this down, queen saving

979
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:40.880
<v Speaker 1>your house. You take a bundle of sage, which is

980
00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:43.400
<v Speaker 1>an herb. It naturally grows, and you burn it and

981
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:47.079
<v Speaker 1>the smoke it is called smudging or saging, if you will.

982
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:50.159
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of quote unquote witchy people do this,

983
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:53.599
<v Speaker 1>and it's been done throughout many cultures, Native Americans, throughout Europe.

984
00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:56.440
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of precedents for this. Here's the deal.

985
00:50:56.719 --> 00:50:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Christians will tell you, or a lot of Christians will

986
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:02.159
<v Speaker 1>tell you that is witchcraft has been done by the

987
00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:05.079
<v Speaker 1>witches for forever, saging a place before they do their ceremonies.

988
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Dot dot dot. It's evil. Here's the problem. It's not

989
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:12.480
<v Speaker 1>actually now if it's being used for evil purposes, then fine.

990
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:14.719
<v Speaker 1>But if you actually look at what sage does and

991
00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:17.000
<v Speaker 1>why it's been used to make someone feel more at

992
00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:20.000
<v Speaker 1>peace within a home, it is basically the most ancient

993
00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:23.079
<v Speaker 1>form of an air purifier that we have. That smoke

994
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:26.119
<v Speaker 1>goes into the air, it actually sucks the toxins out

995
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:28.639
<v Speaker 1>of the air and safely drops them to the floor

996
00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:33.119
<v Speaker 1>in the form of microscopic dust. Saging your home actually

997
00:51:33.159 --> 00:51:37.480
<v Speaker 1>does rid the air of toxins. It's a scientific thing. Now.

998
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:39.760
<v Speaker 1>If somebody wants to put that to a spiritual level,

999
00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:42.960
<v Speaker 1>fine have at it. But saging your house is not

1000
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.000
<v Speaker 1>inherently a satanic act.

1001
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:46.559
<v Speaker 3>It's guilt by association.

1002
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:47.679
<v Speaker 1>Guilt by association.

1003
00:51:48.119 --> 00:51:52.360
<v Speaker 3>I've met Christians who refuse to go to a health

1004
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:56.119
<v Speaker 3>food store because they went there once and at the

1005
00:51:56.159 --> 00:52:00.519
<v Speaker 3>front counter they were selling crystals for channeling. Okay, which

1006
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:05.800
<v Speaker 3>which is they were selling the Bible definitely forbids channeling

1007
00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:11.159
<v Speaker 3>these spirits. Right. So, however, vitamin C has nothing to

1008
00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:14.599
<v Speaker 3>do with your crystal guy, Okay, So because the crystals

1009
00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:17.920
<v Speaker 3>are in the same store doesn't mean the nutritional Because

1010
00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:21.400
<v Speaker 3>Ezekiel forty seven to twelve says the fruit is your food.

1011
00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:24.760
<v Speaker 3>The leaves are your medicine. So you don't know your Bible. Okay,

1012
00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:29.480
<v Speaker 3>So it's the same thing you're talking about. It's in sense, Okay.

1013
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I love that the fruit is your food, the leaves

1014
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:37.920
<v Speaker 1>are your medicine. Is preach on it broke, Yeah, baby.

1015
00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:43.559
<v Speaker 3>Do you know that a quarter of all prescription medications, Yeah,

1016
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:47.599
<v Speaker 3>are derived directly from botanicals. And they and they have

1017
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:50.599
<v Speaker 3>really no idea how the majority of them were. They

1018
00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:51.360
<v Speaker 3>just know that they were.

1019
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:53.360
<v Speaker 2>Well it's a shame that it's not one hundred percent

1020
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:54.519
<v Speaker 2>of them. That's just my opinion.

1021
00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:56.159
<v Speaker 1>But I agree, I agree, you know.

1022
00:52:56.320 --> 00:52:59.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, this is whenever we're getting into stuff

1023
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:02.000
<v Speaker 2>like this and trying to understand, you know, because there's

1024
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:03.360
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people out there that'll look at the

1025
00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:06.199
<v Speaker 2>Bible if they're not Christian like, and they'll say and

1026
00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:08.320
<v Speaker 2>they'll scoff at it. They'll be like, ah, you fucking

1027
00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Bible thumper or whatever, right, right. I mean me personally,

1028
00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:13.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a Christian, but I still find the Bible

1029
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:16.480
<v Speaker 2>absolutely fascinating. And so it's and it's one of the

1030
00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:19.360
<v Speaker 2>most ancient things that we know, right, So, like, no

1031
00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:22.840
<v Speaker 2>matter how many times it's been changed or you know whatever, Like,

1032
00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:25.760
<v Speaker 2>it's still one of the it's probably the most And

1033
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:27.880
<v Speaker 2>this is probably gonna you're probably gonna disagree with this,

1034
00:53:27.960 --> 00:53:31.519
<v Speaker 2>but I I would say it's probably the most magical

1035
00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:32.559
<v Speaker 2>book ever created.

1036
00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:34.880
<v Speaker 1>No, I fully agree, And I'll take that even further

1037
00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:36.920
<v Speaker 1>with you. Now, you said earlier about how somebody will

1038
00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:39.559
<v Speaker 1>like they stub their toe, and they actually like it,

1039
00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:41.519
<v Speaker 1>and they take that and use it as a form

1040
00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:44.719
<v Speaker 1>of their personal magic if you wish. Sure, have you

1041
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:47.400
<v Speaker 1>ever heard of, oh fuck, what was the name of

1042
00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:49.800
<v Speaker 1>the priests? And there was a group of monks They

1043
00:53:49.800 --> 00:53:52.480
<v Speaker 1>would actually self flagellate, which means they would beat the

1044
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:56.280
<v Speaker 1>shit out of themselves in an attempt to gain closeness

1045
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:58.599
<v Speaker 1>with Jesus Christ because he went through the same thing.

1046
00:53:58.679 --> 00:54:01.239
<v Speaker 1>So like, they would actually take way and whit the

1047
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:05.000
<v Speaker 1>fuck out of themselves as a form of prayer and

1048
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:08.360
<v Speaker 1>self sacrifice to God. Now you want to talk about

1049
00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:11.599
<v Speaker 1>somebody using a form of could be chaos magic to

1050
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:15.000
<v Speaker 1>somehow get closer to the other side, bro, What.

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00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I mean that's essentially like whenever I think

1052
00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:21.559
<v Speaker 2>about like chaos magic. So this gets into the hole

1053
00:54:21.639 --> 00:54:24.679
<v Speaker 2>like as above, so below maybe Yin and Yang kind

1054
00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:26.800
<v Speaker 2>of type of deal because you look at it, like,

1055
00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:29.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, you would think, all right, so the one

1056
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:32.199
<v Speaker 2>half of the yin yang is white, the other one's black.

1057
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:35.079
<v Speaker 2>So you would probably look at the white part and

1058
00:54:35.119 --> 00:54:38.760
<v Speaker 2>be like, Okay, well this is probably you know, the

1059
00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:42.039
<v Speaker 2>good stuff that happens to me, because usually in magic

1060
00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:45.920
<v Speaker 2>white and black white is like good magic, black magic,

1061
00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:46.599
<v Speaker 2>bad magic.

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00:54:46.639 --> 00:54:47.679
<v Speaker 1>Everybody knows that, right.

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00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:51.760
<v Speaker 2>So but essentially, instead of canceling out half of the

1064
00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:55.880
<v Speaker 2>whole system, now you're looking at everything that happens to you.

1065
00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:59.000
<v Speaker 2>You're incorporating the ying and the yang as all good

1066
00:54:59.079 --> 00:55:03.199
<v Speaker 2>things that will happen, some pretty fucking thoughtful like deep thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>And see, I think the yin and yang is an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute it's a good way of looking at humanity, if

1069
00:55:08.679 --> 00:55:10.159
<v Speaker 1>you will. There is a good and there's a bad.

1070
00:55:10.199 --> 00:55:11.639
<v Speaker 1>There's a little bit of good in every bad. There's

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00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:13.360
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of bad and every good. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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00:55:13.360 --> 00:55:15.119
<v Speaker 1>all the way down. But I do believe that on

1073
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:17.519
<v Speaker 1>the spiritual and ethereal realm, I believe that there is

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<v Speaker 1>an absolute fifty to fifty split. There is no there's

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00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:22.239
<v Speaker 1>no circles in that yin and yang.

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<v Speaker 2>If you will, I mean, I personally, I know that

1077
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:31.880
<v Speaker 2>realistically there's probably there's probably no the The only difference

1078
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:34.960
<v Speaker 2>between good and bad is how you view it, you

1079
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:37.039
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, Like, yes, we can all agree

1080
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:39.639
<v Speaker 2>on certain things that are bad, right, right, But I mean,

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00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:42.920
<v Speaker 2>how many times have you know, I've I've dated people

1082
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:45.800
<v Speaker 2>before where I was the biggest piece of shit effort

1083
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:48.000
<v Speaker 2>to them, right. Oh, and so now in their their

1084
00:55:48.039 --> 00:55:50.199
<v Speaker 2>perception of me is that I'm the worst person they've

1085
00:55:50.239 --> 00:55:52.199
<v Speaker 2>ever met. But then you know, now I got my

1086
00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:54.159
<v Speaker 2>wife and I'm treating her right and all that, and

1087
00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:56.000
<v Speaker 2>she used me as one of the best people that

1088
00:55:56.039 --> 00:55:58.599
<v Speaker 2>she's ever met. So like, you know, you can kind

1089
00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:00.719
<v Speaker 2>of be a little bit of everything, and so what's

1090
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:02.840
<v Speaker 2>good and what's bad. What's good for me probably ain't

1091
00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:05.840
<v Speaker 2>good for you in a sense, So there's wiggle room

1092
00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:08.079
<v Speaker 2>in that. I don't know, I'm not trying to go

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00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:08.760
<v Speaker 2>too far.

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00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:12.280
<v Speaker 1>There's a difference between human and the divine, you know

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00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:14.559
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, That's what I'm saying. On the human construct,

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00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you one thousand percent. But again, divine, I

1097
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:20.920
<v Speaker 1>think goes to that next level where there is absolutes,

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00:56:21.519 --> 00:56:22.079
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean yeah, I could see how you see

1100
00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:28.119
<v Speaker 2>that for sure.

1101
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:30.880
<v Speaker 1>And that's a me thing. I get the argument that, no,

1102
00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:33.079
<v Speaker 1>the Creator probably has some flaws with him, and like

1103
00:56:33.079 --> 00:56:36.760
<v Speaker 1>people have taken that point. I personally have my views,

1104
00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:38.000
<v Speaker 1>but you know, life goes on.

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00:56:38.840 --> 00:56:42.239
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's you know, it's if you have a biblical worldview.

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00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:45.840
<v Speaker 3>You believe there's a God and that he revealed himself

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00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:48.960
<v Speaker 3>through the Bible, and there's things like the Ten Commandments

1108
00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:53.880
<v Speaker 3>aren't really the ten suggestions wells or morals. Morals are absolutes.

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00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:56.559
<v Speaker 3>They're moral absolutes. So it's kind of a take it

1110
00:56:56.639 --> 00:57:00.159
<v Speaker 3>or leave it offer if you want the benefit of

1111
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:03.079
<v Speaker 3>what the moral gives you, which is a clean conscience,

1112
00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:06.639
<v Speaker 3>that you're willing to eliminate the bad stuff to get

1113
00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:08.960
<v Speaker 3>the clean conscience. But it's up to you. It's optional,

1114
00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:10.199
<v Speaker 3>you have to choose it.

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00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:11.199
<v Speaker 1>We have free will.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, speaking of the of the ten commandment to talk

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00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:20.039
<v Speaker 2>like one of them talks about to keep the Sabbath holy. Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was looking at you know, I have a

1119
00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:24.800
<v Speaker 2>pretty big interest in a bunch of like other different

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00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:28.079
<v Speaker 2>religions and Paganism and all the older ones, right, sure,

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00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:32.400
<v Speaker 2>And within Paganism they had several Sabbaths that like all

1122
00:57:32.440 --> 00:57:36.880
<v Speaker 2>throughout the year, and usually they coincided with the solstices

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00:57:36.960 --> 00:57:39.800
<v Speaker 2>and the equinoxes and stuff like that. And essentially how

1124
00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:45.079
<v Speaker 2>they viewed Sabbaths were like little not parties, but like celebrations,

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00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Like these are days of celebrations.

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00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:49.679
<v Speaker 1>Well, Sabbath is like a holy day, a feast day,

1127
00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:53.519
<v Speaker 1>a day of reverence that goes not just Jewish as

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00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:56.599
<v Speaker 1>far as like Sabbath being a Hebrew word, but like

1129
00:57:56.639 --> 00:57:59.880
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, the big feast days and celebrations and holy

1130
00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and all of that. Yeah, there's all the religions across

1131
00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:04.519
<v Speaker 1>the earth have a version of this. For sure.

1132
00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:06.920
<v Speaker 2>What is the Bible talking about or in the Ten Commandments,

1133
00:58:06.920 --> 00:58:10.440
<v Speaker 2>what is that talking about? Whenever they're talking specifically about

1134
00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:11.320
<v Speaker 2>the Sabbaths to.

1135
00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:14.679
<v Speaker 1>Keep that holy? What is that that is that Sundays

1136
00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:19.159
<v Speaker 1>or Saturdays, time, place, and audience? Right, God was telling

1137
00:58:19.199 --> 00:58:21.840
<v Speaker 1>this to Moses, to tell to the Hebrews that were

1138
00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:26.000
<v Speaker 1>just leaving Egypt. Keep this in mind, and you also

1139
00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:29.280
<v Speaker 1>look at the context of how these were jotted down

1140
00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:32.599
<v Speaker 1>for humanity. They said, please give us a rule book

1141
00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:35.400
<v Speaker 1>to follow, and we'll do it perfectly. We're your humble servants.

1142
00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:37.400
<v Speaker 1>And God was like, no, it's kind of impossible for

1143
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:39.760
<v Speaker 1>you to do that. You're humans. You are incapable of

1144
00:58:39.800 --> 00:58:42.280
<v Speaker 1>meeting my glorious standards. Here's what you need to do,

1145
00:58:42.760 --> 00:58:44.599
<v Speaker 1>and like, just do this, and they're like, no, please,

1146
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:46.599
<v Speaker 1>we'll do it. And he's like, okay, here's how impossible

1147
00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:48.960
<v Speaker 1>it is procure them. And he's like, look, here's ten

1148
00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:51.719
<v Speaker 1>basic ones. There's no human alive that's ever going to

1149
00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:54.039
<v Speaker 1>live their life and not do one of these ten.

1150
00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:56.719
<v Speaker 1>It is impossible for you to be a perfect human.

1151
00:58:57.199 --> 00:59:00.960
<v Speaker 1>It is through Me and the Sabbath and the Holy

1152
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:03.800
<v Speaker 1>and the sacrifices that you are made clean. And that

1153
00:59:03.920 --> 00:59:05.840
<v Speaker 1>was the law of Moses at the time, place and

1154
00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:08.039
<v Speaker 1>era that that message was being conveyed.

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00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:10.519
<v Speaker 2>Right, But what are sabbaths is? What is my question?

1156
00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:12.239
<v Speaker 2>What is a sabbath in the Bible.

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00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:14.760
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's a day of rest, and it even says

1158
00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:17.320
<v Speaker 3>don't think your own thoughts, don't do your own stuff.

1159
00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:21.280
<v Speaker 3>It's a time of devotion where you return to God

1160
00:59:21.320 --> 00:59:24.159
<v Speaker 3>and you give like you're giving God an offering of yourself.

1161
00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:26.920
<v Speaker 3>You're devoting yourself to him on that day.

1162
00:59:27.159 --> 00:59:30.840
<v Speaker 1>And what into the Hebrews that he was talking right.

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00:59:31.039 --> 00:59:35.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. In Romans, it talks about how Jesus is a

1164
00:59:35.320 --> 00:59:40.119
<v Speaker 3>tutor or no, the Ten Commandments is a tutor that

1165
00:59:40.239 --> 00:59:44.159
<v Speaker 3>drives us to Christ. So exactly what he said. What

1166
00:59:44.199 --> 00:59:48.320
<v Speaker 3>the Ten Commandments isn't something you're supposed to follow to

1167
00:59:48.440 --> 00:59:52.440
<v Speaker 3>get God's approval. They're there to show you that it's

1168
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:56.320
<v Speaker 3>impossible to get God's approval and to drive you to Christ,

1169
00:59:56.360 --> 00:59:58.079
<v Speaker 3>who did meet the ten comments.

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00:59:58.320 --> 01:00:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Humans are incapable of meeting God's standard. We are we

1171
01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:05.360
<v Speaker 1>were born imperfect, we were born into sin. He knows it.

1172
01:00:05.639 --> 01:00:07.800
<v Speaker 1>He's not mad at us about it. I promise you

1173
01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:10.920
<v Speaker 1>everybody listening. God is not mad at you. I swear

1174
01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:13.039
<v Speaker 1>he loves you. He just wants you to come home.

1175
01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I promise you. It's it's a big thing. We got jackets,

1176
01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:18.920
<v Speaker 1>it's the whole thing. But uh, but no, But you're

1177
01:00:18.960 --> 01:00:21.239
<v Speaker 1>absolutely right, and you look at these ten commandments, and yes,

1178
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:23.760
<v Speaker 1>you want to apply them to your life. You should

1179
01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:26.880
<v Speaker 1>strive to follow them in every which way. Of course,

1180
01:00:26.920 --> 01:00:29.280
<v Speaker 1>don't go out there and kill nobody, don't go out

1181
01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:32.119
<v Speaker 1>there and cheat on your spouse, don't don't be disrespectful

1182
01:00:32.119 --> 01:00:34.800
<v Speaker 1>to your elders and to your parents. Keep the Sabbath day.

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01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:37.599
<v Speaker 1>But to wrap up to your point, Jonathan, yes, once

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01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:41.320
<v Speaker 1>a week. The Jewish and the Hebrew traditions would say

1185
01:00:41.320 --> 01:00:43.920
<v Speaker 1>that once one day a week, you completely devoted to

1186
01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:47.159
<v Speaker 1>rest and devotion to God, giving you like they won't.

1187
01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:49.960
<v Speaker 1>They won't drive, like they won't, they won't harvest in

1188
01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:52.719
<v Speaker 1>their fields, like absolutely nothing happens on the Sabbath. So

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01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:56.440
<v Speaker 1>that's only to the Jews. Well, it was a message

1190
01:00:56.480 --> 01:00:57.800
<v Speaker 1>to the Hebrews, yes.

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01:00:57.599 --> 01:00:59.840
<v Speaker 2>But that's in the ten Commandments, is to keep the

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01:00:59.840 --> 01:01:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Sabbath holy. So that's not to only the Jews, that's

1193
01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:02.960
<v Speaker 2>to everybody.

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01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:03.119
<v Speaker 3>Right.

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01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, once again to that time and place, it was

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01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:09.400
<v Speaker 1>to the Hebrews. It was not to the Canaanites. That

1197
01:01:09.480 --> 01:01:11.800
<v Speaker 1>was not to the Philistines. That was to the Hebrews.

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01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:14.679
<v Speaker 1>Once Jesus came on scene, he said, listen, there is

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01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:17.000
<v Speaker 1>no more jew and gentile. There is either of God

1200
01:01:17.079 --> 01:01:20.480
<v Speaker 1>or there is not. The traditions are great. I'm not

1201
01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:22.639
<v Speaker 1>here to displace them, but I am here to say

1202
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:26.039
<v Speaker 1>that there's no longer these tribalisms and these family trees

1203
01:01:26.079 --> 01:01:28.920
<v Speaker 1>of what matters, and that doesn't matter. So the commandments

1204
01:01:28.920 --> 01:01:32.039
<v Speaker 1>are now bullshit. No they're not bullshit. They are like

1205
01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:34.000
<v Speaker 1>he said, they are a driving factor, and we should

1206
01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:37.480
<v Speaker 1>strive to be them because they are a great, simple

1207
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:41.440
<v Speaker 1>cut example of God's standard. We should strive to them. Understandably,

1208
01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:43.679
<v Speaker 1>we are going to fail from time to time. We're humans.

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01:01:43.960 --> 01:01:46.920
<v Speaker 1>We need Jesus to compensate for where we fall short.

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01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:51.800
<v Speaker 3>Right, And there's a difference between the ceremonial law and

1211
01:01:51.840 --> 01:01:54.559
<v Speaker 3>the moral law. Yes, because like which of one of

1212
01:01:54.559 --> 01:01:57.000
<v Speaker 3>the ten commandments? Don't you have to obey? Oh, I

1213
01:01:57.000 --> 01:02:00.480
<v Speaker 3>can murder? People know the moral law is still effect

1214
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:03.599
<v Speaker 3>but under the New Covenant. Jesus said in Matthew twelve,

1215
01:02:03.800 --> 01:02:05.800
<v Speaker 3>the son of Man is the lord of the Sabbath.

1216
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:10.280
<v Speaker 3>So then Paul developed that in Colossians two sixteen, he said,

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01:02:11.039 --> 01:02:13.800
<v Speaker 3>let nobody pass judgment on you in questions of food

1218
01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:17.519
<v Speaker 3>and drink, or with regard to festival or new moon

1219
01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:21.039
<v Speaker 3>or sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come.

1220
01:02:21.079 --> 01:02:24.639
<v Speaker 3>But the substance belongs to Christ. So basically our rest

1221
01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:28.079
<v Speaker 3>we find in Christ. He completed it all. He said,

1222
01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:31.320
<v Speaker 3>I didn't come to abolish the love, but to fulfill it. Yes,

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01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:35.440
<v Speaker 3>so all of the commandments have been fulfilled in Christ

1224
01:02:35.519 --> 01:02:37.320
<v Speaker 3>and all you gotta do is find refuge in him.

1225
01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:40.000
<v Speaker 3>You just hide out in him and you're good. That's

1226
01:02:40.039 --> 01:02:40.559
<v Speaker 3>how it works.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. Just come on into the family dog, just

1228
01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:43.920
<v Speaker 1>follow him.

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01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:46.280
<v Speaker 3>He'll give you the he'll give you your marching artist.

1230
01:02:46.559 --> 01:02:48.360
<v Speaker 3>He'll let you know if you're out of bounce, if

1231
01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:50.800
<v Speaker 3>you're diggling around in the dark, he'll let you know,

1232
01:02:51.159 --> 01:02:56.079
<v Speaker 3>and he'll say, hah, son, that's not part of the ingranement. Basically,

1233
01:02:56.119 --> 01:02:58.880
<v Speaker 3>it's like this, I'll give you everything. You give me everything.

1234
01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:02.239
<v Speaker 3>You got to sell everything and by the field to

1235
01:03:02.280 --> 01:03:06.000
<v Speaker 3>get the pearl of great price. But it just costs

1236
01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:06.480
<v Speaker 3>you everything.

1237
01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but that's the thing. You're gonna get out

1238
01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:12.440
<v Speaker 1>what you put in. That's the rule of everything.

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01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:16.599
<v Speaker 2>Ever, so, is there are there any Mandela effects that

1240
01:03:16.639 --> 01:03:20.199
<v Speaker 2>are associated with anything that Jesus specifically said?

1241
01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Are people experiencing that?

1242
01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:26.119
<v Speaker 3>It's on every page. It's so mind bottling to us

1243
01:03:26.199 --> 01:03:28.599
<v Speaker 3>that that the church can't is not just up in

1244
01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:31.559
<v Speaker 3>arms about this. Well, actually it's worse than that. We

1245
01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:34.719
<v Speaker 3>actually have one testimony of a guy. This is totally verified.

1246
01:03:35.079 --> 01:03:39.320
<v Speaker 3>He was a youth pastor and the Baptist minister. The

1247
01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:43.039
<v Speaker 3>Baptist missions Association, and they had this big retreat with

1248
01:03:43.079 --> 01:03:47.400
<v Speaker 3>like one hundred and fifty churches pastors and youth pastors

1249
01:03:48.159 --> 01:03:50.320
<v Speaker 3>or one hundred and fifty churches go to this convention

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<v Speaker 3>center and at one point they pull them all. This

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<v Speaker 3>is what he said. They pulled us all into this

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01:03:55.400 --> 01:03:59.480
<v Speaker 3>other room where there was nobody taking notes. And the

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01:03:59.519 --> 01:04:03.039
<v Speaker 3>guy gets there and he's like, we have something to

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<v Speaker 3>tell you. The Bible is supernaturally changing, and we don't

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<v Speaker 3>want anybody to talk about it. A kid, you not.

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<v Speaker 3>They sent the memo out and we believe this has

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<v Speaker 3>gone out to a lot of denominations. And so then

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<v Speaker 3>this him and this one other youth pastor was like,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you mean you're not going to tell everybody?

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<v Speaker 3>This is bogus. You can't keep this secret. This is

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<v Speaker 3>this is awful. And the guy basically told them it

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<v Speaker 3>would not be in your best interest to talk about this.

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<v Speaker 3>And the guy said he felt totally threatened for his

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<v Speaker 3>life and his family, and he never talked about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I will say the Bible clearly stated that it

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<v Speaker 1>is the Bible of yesterday, today, and tomorrow, and that

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<v Speaker 1>the true word of God will always make it through

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<v Speaker 1>the ages. And I do have faith in that? So

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<v Speaker 1>is it crazy to conceive that possibly the word is

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<v Speaker 1>changing because as the day and age changes, and as

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<v Speaker 1>people are going up in arms about what is the

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<v Speaker 1>really and what is the true message, that maybe God's

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<v Speaker 1>spirit is pushing through saying no, no, no, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that y'all get the word that you need

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<v Speaker 1>to get.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's really what's going on, you

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<v Speaker 2>tell me, brother, because you don't hear about that in

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01:05:14.679 --> 01:05:18.159
<v Speaker 2>most other books. So for it to be a biblical thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and mandela effects are constantly happening within the Bible. And

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<v Speaker 2>I mean literally, everybody that you've ever met has at

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<v Speaker 2>least heard of the Bible. There's no way you've met

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that's never heard of it.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying, my boy, is that God is in

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01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:41.039
<v Speaker 1>fact in control, especially of his book. So okay, you could.

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<v Speaker 2>Say that, but I mean, how do you express the

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<v Speaker 2>the the reason for all these other mandela effects? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>is God only in control of the biblic in control

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<v Speaker 2>of the Bible? Is he also in control of the monocle?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he also in control of the peanut guy? Is

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<v Speaker 2>he in control of the fucking Bernstein?

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<v Speaker 1>Bears. Ho hold on, hold on, we're talking about something

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<v Speaker 1>that is that was created within the last century versus

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01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:06.280
<v Speaker 1>something that is over two thousand years, like we're talking.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking different calibers of things to be Mandela effects.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, But it's all happening within the last twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five years, is my point. Nobody was talking about Mandela

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<v Speaker 2>effect before you know, this century.

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<v Speaker 3>I never heard about it. I never was like made

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<v Speaker 3>aware that the Bible supernaturally changing until you know, seven

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01:06:24.679 --> 01:06:28.760
<v Speaker 3>years ago. So, and neither has hundreds of other thousands

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01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:32.360
<v Speaker 3>of other Christians. So it's definitely a recent event. But

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<v Speaker 3>here's the way you can note that the Bible can

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01:06:35.480 --> 01:06:38.559
<v Speaker 3>be changed. I'll give you three terms. You tell me

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01:06:39.400 --> 01:06:41.880
<v Speaker 3>if they all mean the same thing. The word is Bible,

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01:06:42.320 --> 01:06:45.480
<v Speaker 3>the word is scripture, and the term the Word of God.

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01:06:45.639 --> 01:06:47.400
<v Speaker 3>Are they all the exact same thing?

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<v Speaker 1>They can be?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what's the Bible?

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01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:53.960
<v Speaker 1>The Bible is the actual book itself.

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<v Speaker 3>It's right, it's the collection of sixty six books. And

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<v Speaker 3>then the books are called or referred to as scripture.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bible contains scripture within the pages of Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, all right. Now, then scripture gives us the

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01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:14.400
<v Speaker 3>words of God, but not not even everything that's written

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01:07:14.599 --> 01:07:17.280
<v Speaker 3>in the scriptures is the word of God. For instance,

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01:07:17.800 --> 01:07:21.920
<v Speaker 3>you have it one I call it like the linear

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01:07:22.119 --> 01:07:26.280
<v Speaker 3>scale of authority. So you have God on the mountain

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<v Speaker 3>talking to Moses, or or this is my son, my

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01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:33.039
<v Speaker 3>beloved son, and whom I am well pleased. It says

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<v Speaker 3>everybody heard the voice from the sky, right, bro That

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<v Speaker 3>right there is the word of God. Correct, there's no ambiguity, okay,

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01:07:42.079 --> 01:07:44.880
<v Speaker 3>all right? So then you have what's commentary where you

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<v Speaker 3>have the Book of Genesis in the beginning God created

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<v Speaker 3>the heavens, and not we accept that as the inspired

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01:07:52.679 --> 01:07:55.679
<v Speaker 3>word of God. Okay, but now now you get down

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01:07:55.719 --> 01:07:57.960
<v Speaker 3>there's all kinds of stories. All that's inspired. But what

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<v Speaker 3>about this? Paul goes like this, Hey, Timothy, when you're

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<v Speaker 3>in tro Ass, remember my cloak which is in tro Ass?

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<v Speaker 3>All right? Is that the word of God? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Not necessarily or whenever? Paul tells Timothy to and he

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01:08:14.079 --> 01:08:16.399
<v Speaker 1>goes down this long list of people that he wants

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01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:19.560
<v Speaker 1>to have greetings to tell this person. I said, hello,

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01:08:19.720 --> 01:08:22.079
<v Speaker 1>tell this person. I'm hoping they're doing well.

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<v Speaker 3>Genealogies, yes, And he mentioned, I mean that has its

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<v Speaker 3>place yes, it has an importance, but bring my jacket. Okay. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>here's how you can understand this. If you go to

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<v Speaker 3>the Gospel of John chapter one. If the term scripture

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<v Speaker 3>and the term word of God are synonymous, then they

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<v Speaker 3>should be interchangeable. Right. Here's the Gospel of John. In

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<v Speaker 3>the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,

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01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:49.760
<v Speaker 3>and the Word was God. The same was in the

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<v Speaker 3>beginning with God. All things were made by him, him

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01:08:53.600 --> 01:08:58.079
<v Speaker 3>being Jesus, or the Word. All things were made by

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01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:01.600
<v Speaker 3>the Word, and without him, not anything was made that

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01:09:01.720 --> 01:09:04.920
<v Speaker 3>was made. Okay. Now let's change the term word for

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01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:08.319
<v Speaker 3>the term scripture now, and you tell me if this

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01:09:08.439 --> 01:09:12.520
<v Speaker 3>resonates with you. In the beginning was the scripture, and

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01:09:12.600 --> 01:09:16.399
<v Speaker 3>the scripture was with God, and the scripture was God.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, does that sound right to you? Wow?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it gets worse though, it gets worse the same, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>In other words, scripture scripture was in the beginning with God.

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01:09:31.880 --> 01:09:35.119
<v Speaker 3>All things were made by the scripture, and without the

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01:09:35.239 --> 01:09:39.760
<v Speaker 3>scripture was not anything made that was made. No way.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, let's see. That's the reason why they use the

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<v Speaker 1>words that they do when they do for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Now, now there's about five or six main

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01:09:50.039 --> 01:09:54.960
<v Speaker 3>scriptures that the Church is using to try to suggest

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<v Speaker 3>there no way can the Bible be changed by the devil.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's one of them, Psalms one, nineteen eighty eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it is eighty seven or eight nine. Thy word,

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01:10:04.680 --> 01:10:08.039
<v Speaker 3>Oh Lord, is forever settled in heaven. Now, first of all,

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01:10:08.199 --> 01:10:10.920
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't say thy scripture is forever settled in health,

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01:10:11.479 --> 01:10:15.359
<v Speaker 3>and it says it's forever preserved, not on the pages

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01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:20.560
<v Speaker 3>of the book, it's preserved in heaven. Yeah, okay, So

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<v Speaker 3>that actually supports our position that the Bible, there is

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01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:28.640
<v Speaker 3>no promise to protect the terrestrial book. It is the

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01:10:28.680 --> 01:10:32.159
<v Speaker 3>words that were given to the original authors are immutable,

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01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:34.640
<v Speaker 3>which means it'll come to pass and it won't change.

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<v Speaker 3>So what was given was was in changing, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>not unchanging on the earth. It can be made inaccessible.

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01:10:44.720 --> 01:10:47.920
<v Speaker 3>Just like the pagan in the jungle doesn't have access

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01:10:47.960 --> 01:10:52.079
<v Speaker 3>to the Bible, there's over two thousand living languages right

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01:10:52.119 --> 01:10:54.039
<v Speaker 3>at this moment that do not have a Bible in

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01:10:54.039 --> 01:10:57.920
<v Speaker 3>their own language. Well, those people the Bible is inaccessible

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01:10:57.920 --> 01:11:01.720
<v Speaker 3>to them. But the Bible they're still shut up under scriptures.

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01:11:02.159 --> 01:11:06.039
<v Speaker 3>They're still responsible for it. So to them it's inaccessible.

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01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:11.000
<v Speaker 3>So what's happening is God is making the scripture inaccessible

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01:11:11.279 --> 01:11:14.760
<v Speaker 3>to us, which is the fulfillment of Amos eight eleven,

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<v Speaker 3>which says in the Last Stay, I will send a famine,

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<v Speaker 3>but not a famine of bread. It will be a

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01:11:21.199 --> 01:11:24.119
<v Speaker 3>famine of the Word. And men will seek the Word,

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01:11:24.159 --> 01:11:26.039
<v Speaker 3>but they will not find it. They'll travel from the

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01:11:26.079 --> 01:11:28.479
<v Speaker 3>north to southeast of the west, and they will not

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01:11:28.600 --> 01:11:33.640
<v Speaker 3>find the word that is being fulfilled in your hearing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my God, dude, yes, bro, when you break it.

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01:11:38.520 --> 01:11:41.399
<v Speaker 1>Down like that, See, I always took that end time

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01:11:41.439 --> 01:11:43.520
<v Speaker 1>prophecy to mean that even if you go to a

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01:11:43.560 --> 01:11:45.880
<v Speaker 1>house of worship, they will not be preaching the actual

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01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:47.880
<v Speaker 1>word of God. They'll be feeding you chicken soup for

1390
01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:50.239
<v Speaker 1>the soul with a couple of scriptures thrown into it

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01:11:50.560 --> 01:11:53.800
<v Speaker 1>which do not look far down any street in America,

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01:11:53.840 --> 01:11:56.760
<v Speaker 1>and you'll find one of these churches, I promise you now.

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01:11:56.840 --> 01:12:01.239
<v Speaker 1>That could also be interpreted to mean that the word itself,

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01:12:01.279 --> 01:12:03.399
<v Speaker 1>regardless of where you go, even if it is a

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01:12:03.439 --> 01:12:06.239
<v Speaker 1>place that is a well read and all these things,

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01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:08.640
<v Speaker 1>the word itself would be changed so much that you're

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01:12:08.680 --> 01:12:12.159
<v Speaker 1>not even hearing the true word. But at that same time,

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01:12:12.239 --> 01:12:15.319
<v Speaker 1>I believe that the true word has always been preserved

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<v Speaker 1>up until this point.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you could also look at that as interpretation.

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01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:23.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the Bible could be misinterpreted six ways to Sunday.

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01:12:23.359 --> 01:12:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Look at how many different religions are branched off of it. Yeah,

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01:12:26.039 --> 01:12:28.640
<v Speaker 2>could that be what they're talking about? Also, you know,

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01:12:28.880 --> 01:12:31.159
<v Speaker 2>anybody can read something, but what does it mean to you?

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01:12:31.279 --> 01:12:33.479
<v Speaker 1>Right, you're going to this church, but you think that's

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01:12:33.640 --> 01:12:35.199
<v Speaker 1>one Yeah, I hear you.

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01:12:35.880 --> 01:12:37.960
<v Speaker 3>I had this one lady, and this lady like just

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01:12:38.039 --> 01:12:40.319
<v Speaker 3>nails it for him. She's seventy five years old. She

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01:12:40.359 --> 01:12:44.039
<v Speaker 3>calls me out, John, I've been reading my King James

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01:12:44.119 --> 01:12:47.680
<v Speaker 3>Bible for sixty two years and I opened up my Bible.

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01:12:47.800 --> 01:12:50.399
<v Speaker 3>It's the same Bible I had my whole life, and

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01:12:50.439 --> 01:12:52.640
<v Speaker 3>it said it said that people put their money in

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01:12:52.680 --> 01:12:55.960
<v Speaker 3>the bank. And I said that. Where was never in

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01:12:55.960 --> 01:12:58.600
<v Speaker 3>my Bible? This is like the back of your hand. Okay,

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01:12:58.680 --> 01:13:02.439
<v Speaker 3>it's like your name. You know your name is Jonathan.

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01:13:02.560 --> 01:13:04.439
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry. If we wake up in its gym, you're

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01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:10.600
<v Speaker 3>freaked out. So there is no naturalistic explanation. Four. Where

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01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:14.199
<v Speaker 3>was that wildly vivid memories? No longer being in lined

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01:13:14.239 --> 01:13:16.079
<v Speaker 3>with what we're seeing on our pages of our books.

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<v Speaker 1>There's multiple mentions of a bank in the Bible. What

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01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:23.800
<v Speaker 1>are we talking about here? Not in my memory, even

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01:13:23.840 --> 01:13:25.479
<v Speaker 1>if you go to the Old Testament. How about the

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01:13:25.520 --> 01:13:27.359
<v Speaker 1>Master with the talent? Or No, that was Jesus talking

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01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:28.600
<v Speaker 1>about the Master with the talents?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>He told he gave one fifteen, he gave one ten,

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01:13:31.600 --> 01:13:33.560
<v Speaker 1>he gave one five, and he said, I'm going away

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01:13:33.600 --> 01:13:35.439
<v Speaker 1>for an undisclosed amount of time. This is a parable.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, he said, you know when I come back,

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01:13:38.920 --> 01:13:40.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, let's see what you do with them. One

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01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:42.359
<v Speaker 1>of them said, I invested it and made this much.

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01:13:42.399 --> 01:13:43.960
<v Speaker 1>One of them said I invested made this much, and

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01:13:43.960 --> 01:13:45.800
<v Speaker 1>the one with five said I buried it and here

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01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:48.239
<v Speaker 1>you go. And the Master was mad at him and said,

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01:13:48.439 --> 01:13:49.800
<v Speaker 1>you didn't even put it in the bank so we

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01:13:49.840 --> 01:13:53.359
<v Speaker 1>could collect interest. I remember you telling that story?

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01:13:53.399 --> 01:13:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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01:13:53.720 --> 01:13:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, If was that Jesus that told that parable? Or

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01:13:56.720 --> 01:13:59.319
<v Speaker 1>was that Old Testament? I'm trying to remember, actually, Well,

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01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:01.880
<v Speaker 1>but there is mention of banks. I mean, we are

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01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:05.159
<v Speaker 1>talking about the Jews here. They pretty much invented the practice.

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01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:08.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's another word that most of us remember but

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01:14:08.199 --> 01:14:10.560
<v Speaker 3>there's so many of them that you can't really land

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01:14:10.600 --> 01:14:15.039
<v Speaker 3>on one because you know, we have this book is

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01:14:15.079 --> 01:14:17.439
<v Speaker 3>the only book like where you actually memorize. I mean,

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01:14:17.439 --> 01:14:20.840
<v Speaker 3>what book do you commit to memory? There aren't very many,

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01:14:20.920 --> 01:14:24.119
<v Speaker 3>not many fair. And then the other thing is is

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01:14:24.279 --> 01:14:27.680
<v Speaker 3>it's you get so bombarded, like if you're reading the

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01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:31.119
<v Speaker 3>Bible every day, you have a daily devotional, you're listening

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01:14:31.159 --> 01:14:32.960
<v Speaker 3>to tapes, you go to the here the guy talk

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01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:35.920
<v Speaker 3>about the Bible on Sunday, and then you know there's

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01:14:35.960 --> 01:14:40.039
<v Speaker 3>like eight different places where you're reading. You know you're

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01:14:40.079 --> 01:14:43.479
<v Speaker 3>getting this scripture. And so then you turn around and

1454
01:14:43.800 --> 01:14:47.439
<v Speaker 3>you know, Judge not less you be judged doesn't exist

1455
01:14:47.479 --> 01:14:51.279
<v Speaker 3>in any translation. So it's not like, you know, it's

1456
01:14:51.279 --> 01:14:55.640
<v Speaker 3>not a Bible translation confusion, it's not a modern modernization

1457
01:14:55.760 --> 01:14:58.720
<v Speaker 3>because it's not in any translation. Yet it's on the

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01:14:58.760 --> 01:15:02.239
<v Speaker 3>tongue of every Christ and Center alike in the whole world.

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01:15:02.319 --> 01:15:04.359
<v Speaker 1>That's not in the Bible. That's a scripture.

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01:15:04.840 --> 01:15:08.279
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't exist.

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01:15:06.279 --> 01:15:09.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh, judge not.

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01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:12.119
<v Speaker 3>Last TV judge should be what isn't the King James?

1463
01:15:12.159 --> 01:15:15.720
<v Speaker 3>And it says judge not that you be not judged?

1464
01:15:16.640 --> 01:15:18.319
<v Speaker 1>What? That don't even sound right?

1465
01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:19.600
<v Speaker 3>Hold on it doesn't.

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01:15:19.640 --> 01:15:22.000
<v Speaker 2>This is like, Luke, I'm your father, which, by the way,

1467
01:15:22.039 --> 01:15:24.239
<v Speaker 2>did you see that? They like change that back.

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01:15:25.159 --> 01:15:27.760
<v Speaker 3>Luke I'm your father is now what the movie says?

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01:15:27.880 --> 01:15:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, yeah, dude, you can go back and it's

1470
01:15:31.720 --> 01:15:32.520
<v Speaker 2>and it's back to It.

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01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Had to have been a.

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01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Flip flop, dude, because I've seen it. Somebody is like, yo,

1473
01:15:38.720 --> 01:15:41.760
<v Speaker 2>you know actually you know, uh, Darth Vader actually does

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01:15:41.800 --> 01:15:43.840
<v Speaker 2>say Luke, I am your father now, And I'm like,

1475
01:15:44.479 --> 01:15:47.239
<v Speaker 2>this was like one of the biggest core Mandela Effect

1476
01:15:47.359 --> 01:15:50.399
<v Speaker 2>things and now it's and now it's changed back.

1477
01:15:51.199 --> 01:15:51.800
<v Speaker 3>Let me check it.

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01:15:51.840 --> 01:15:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Hold on, crazy you seven? Hold on Matthew seven one

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01:15:57.920 --> 01:16:00.800
<v Speaker 1>through five. All right, hold I'm in the new International version.

1480
01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Let me go to King James real quick. I bounce

1481
01:16:03.920 --> 01:16:06.720
<v Speaker 1>back and forth between the two King James. That sexual

1482
01:16:09.159 --> 01:16:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, it's really gonna it's making me update

1483
01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:14.920
<v Speaker 1>this right now. You've got to be kidding me. Here,

1484
01:16:14.960 --> 01:16:18.319
<v Speaker 1>I'll search it on here. What is it the King

1485
01:16:18.439 --> 01:16:19.199
<v Speaker 1>James version?

1486
01:16:20.640 --> 01:16:21.439
<v Speaker 3>What just happening?

1487
01:16:21.479 --> 01:16:23.680
<v Speaker 1>What is it like, Matthew or some ship? Yeah, Matthew

1488
01:16:24.039 --> 01:16:30.000
<v Speaker 1>seven one through five? What and the world is happening

1489
01:16:30.039 --> 01:16:30.720
<v Speaker 1>with my internet?

1490
01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:31.039
<v Speaker 3>Dude?

1491
01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:34.359
<v Speaker 2>Shuit's tripping, dude, my Bible app.

1492
01:16:34.119 --> 01:16:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Of all things. Here we go. Okay, uh, that's new

1493
01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:41.479
<v Speaker 1>International hold on King James. Do not judge that ye

1494
01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:43.319
<v Speaker 1>be not judged for what?

1495
01:16:43.960 --> 01:16:44.039
<v Speaker 3>For?

1496
01:16:44.239 --> 01:16:47.680
<v Speaker 1>With what judgment ye judge? Yeah, ye shall be judged,

1497
01:16:48.119 --> 01:16:51.439
<v Speaker 1>And with what measure ye met? It shall be measured

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01:16:51.479 --> 01:16:52.039
<v Speaker 1>to you again.

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01:16:53.319 --> 01:16:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Verse one is pretty much the mind blow, because

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01:16:57.199 --> 01:17:00.239
<v Speaker 3>you know you'd have to explain how I judge not

1501
01:17:00.479 --> 01:17:04.920
<v Speaker 3>lest you'd be not judged. Has gotten into the minds

1502
01:17:04.960 --> 01:17:07.560
<v Speaker 3>of the lexicon of the entire world. It's in movies,

1503
01:17:07.640 --> 01:17:12.319
<v Speaker 3>it's in books, it's in newspaper articles, it's in sermons,

1504
01:17:12.840 --> 01:17:16.439
<v Speaker 3>and if you ask everybody to complete it, fill in

1505
01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:18.159
<v Speaker 3>the blanks, they'll say less.

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01:17:18.560 --> 01:17:20.079
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if there was like a version of the

1507
01:17:20.079 --> 01:17:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Bible that had it worded that way, that like took

1508
01:17:22.600 --> 01:17:25.039
<v Speaker 1>over in America, like the New Living Translation of the

1509
01:17:25.079 --> 01:17:28.039
<v Speaker 1>New International Version. Well I want, I wonder.

1510
01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:31.239
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people are actually referencing a lot of

1511
01:17:30.920 --> 01:17:34.800
<v Speaker 2>the changes in scripture whatever they're talking about. See, this

1512
01:17:34.840 --> 01:17:37.119
<v Speaker 2>is how the King James version was changed. Because people

1513
01:17:37.159 --> 01:17:40.640
<v Speaker 2>still have the Geneva Bible, which this one right here

1514
01:17:40.680 --> 01:17:45.359
<v Speaker 2>at least on the Internet's from fifteen ninety nine. But this, Matthew,

1515
01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:48.000
<v Speaker 2>verse one or chapter one, how do you say.

1516
01:17:47.800 --> 01:17:51.279
<v Speaker 1>That chapter seven versus one vers.

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01:17:51.359 --> 01:17:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, anyway, on the geneval part, it says, we may

1518
01:17:55.000 --> 01:17:58.359
<v Speaker 2>not give judgment of our neighbors, nor cast that which

1519
01:17:58.600 --> 01:18:04.119
<v Speaker 2>is wholly onto dogs, the broad and straightway false prophets,

1520
01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:06.359
<v Speaker 2>the tree and fruit, the house built on a rock

1521
01:18:06.600 --> 01:18:11.000
<v Speaker 2>and on the sand. Judge not that ye be not judged.

1522
01:18:11.560 --> 01:18:15.079
<v Speaker 2>For with that judgment, ye, judge, ye shall be judged.

1523
01:18:15.119 --> 01:18:19.399
<v Speaker 2>And with what and with what measure ye meet, it

1524
01:18:19.520 --> 01:18:20.920
<v Speaker 2>shall be measured.

1525
01:18:20.640 --> 01:18:21.319
<v Speaker 1>Unto you again.

1526
01:18:21.520 --> 01:18:24.239
<v Speaker 2>So all that ye and all that nonsense.

1527
01:18:24.359 --> 01:18:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I do love reading that version of the Bible. Though

1528
01:18:26.640 --> 01:18:30.439
<v Speaker 1>it's poetic as fuck, and and and they confirmed via

1529
01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:32.600
<v Speaker 1>the Dead Sea scrolls it is a one to one

1530
01:18:32.640 --> 01:18:34.720
<v Speaker 1>translation for the actual intended words.

1531
01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:37.119
<v Speaker 2>So take that for the King James version that was

1532
01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:38.920
<v Speaker 2>you said that that was the first time that it

1533
01:18:38.920 --> 01:18:40.560
<v Speaker 2>had been translated into English.

1534
01:18:40.199 --> 01:18:41.439
<v Speaker 1>From Latin to English.

1535
01:18:41.520 --> 01:18:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, But what was the Geneva one then, because that's English.

1536
01:18:46.239 --> 01:18:48.159
<v Speaker 1>That may have been done at a later time or

1537
01:18:48.239 --> 01:18:49.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know when this was.

1538
01:18:49.279 --> 01:18:51.800
<v Speaker 2>The King James was like sixteen hundreds, right, Yeah, Well,

1539
01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:55.640
<v Speaker 2>the Geneva one of it yeah, well heave us fifteen

1540
01:18:55.720 --> 01:18:56.279
<v Speaker 2>ninety nine.

1541
01:18:56.720 --> 01:18:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Well understand that he was also the bastion of Protestantism,

1542
01:19:00.319 --> 01:19:02.680
<v Speaker 1>right right, So yeah, so if he was the one

1543
01:19:02.680 --> 01:19:04.920
<v Speaker 1>that said this was the first, and it just became

1544
01:19:04.960 --> 01:19:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the most widely accepted because keep in mind, he wrote this,

1545
01:19:08.159 --> 01:19:10.800
<v Speaker 1>it became popular as the Catholic churches on the decline,

1546
01:19:11.399 --> 01:19:15.720
<v Speaker 1>so it got kind of made to be that one. Oh,

1547
01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I got you, Although there was other ones that wasn't

1548
01:19:18.000 --> 01:19:20.239
<v Speaker 1>the greg Goryan that was written in Latin, but what

1549
01:19:20.520 --> 01:19:24.159
<v Speaker 1>was it not the Geneva. There was one other one

1550
01:19:24.159 --> 01:19:26.000
<v Speaker 1>that I had actually just recently heard of that was

1551
01:19:26.039 --> 01:19:29.439
<v Speaker 1>written in the fifteen sixties. But the problem is that

1552
01:19:29.439 --> 01:19:33.359
<v Speaker 1>that was one priest that wrote that himself. That wasn't

1553
01:19:33.439 --> 01:19:36.279
<v Speaker 1>like a mass produced Bible. The fact that this guy

1554
01:19:36.319 --> 01:19:39.039
<v Speaker 1>even had it was because he was a rare collector

1555
01:19:39.039 --> 01:19:42.760
<v Speaker 1>of these types of books. So like, technically speaking, no,

1556
01:19:42.880 --> 01:19:46.920
<v Speaker 1>King James didn't create the first actual English translation, he

1557
01:19:47.039 --> 01:19:50.560
<v Speaker 1>was the one that created the first mass produced English translation,

1558
01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:53.039
<v Speaker 1>or at least again that's as the story goes.

1559
01:19:54.079 --> 01:19:56.840
<v Speaker 2>So I wanted to go back because I really enjoy

1560
01:19:57.000 --> 01:20:00.399
<v Speaker 2>this whole Geneva Bible part because it's it kind of

1561
01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:03.039
<v Speaker 2>goes against a little bit of what King James reads.

1562
01:20:03.159 --> 01:20:07.319
<v Speaker 2>All right, just tiny little differences. And you know, I

1563
01:20:07.399 --> 01:20:10.960
<v Speaker 2>just typed in firmament just because I'm fucking of course

1564
01:20:11.119 --> 01:20:13.399
<v Speaker 2>you do. But it says God created the heaven and earth,

1565
01:20:13.640 --> 01:20:17.640
<v Speaker 2>the light and darkness, the firmament, and then he separateth

1566
01:20:17.720 --> 01:20:20.680
<v Speaker 2>the water from the earth. He createth the sun, the moon,

1567
01:20:20.760 --> 01:20:23.279
<v Speaker 2>the stars. He created the fish, the birds, the beast,

1568
01:20:23.680 --> 01:20:27.359
<v Speaker 2>graded man, and give him a rule over all creatures.

1569
01:20:27.600 --> 01:20:29.800
<v Speaker 2>And then it goes down. It says again God said,

1570
01:20:29.880 --> 01:20:32.520
<v Speaker 2>let there be firmament in the midst of the waters,

1571
01:20:32.600 --> 01:20:35.399
<v Speaker 2>and let it separate the waters from the waters. And

1572
01:20:35.439 --> 01:20:38.159
<v Speaker 2>then God made the firmament and separated the waters which

1573
01:20:38.199 --> 01:20:41.119
<v Speaker 2>were under the firmament from the waters which were above

1574
01:20:41.159 --> 01:20:41.760
<v Speaker 2>the firmament.

1575
01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:45.119
<v Speaker 1>Let's so they kept that pretty true to form, Geneva

1576
01:20:45.239 --> 01:20:48.439
<v Speaker 1>versus King James. Good to go. Sounds like they were

1577
01:20:48.439 --> 01:20:51.720
<v Speaker 1>correctly translating from the Latin to the English to me,

1578
01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:54.199
<v Speaker 1>and has verified one to one. I'd be damned. Yeah,

1579
01:20:54.560 --> 01:20:56.720
<v Speaker 1>all right, yeah, I just like seeing what the differences are.

1580
01:20:57.520 --> 01:21:00.319
<v Speaker 3>I just listened to Luke im your Father, and it's sound.

1581
01:21:00.399 --> 01:21:02.439
<v Speaker 3>I listened to it five times. I think you're right,

1582
01:21:02.720 --> 01:21:04.199
<v Speaker 3>he's saying, Luke, I'm your father.

1583
01:21:04.399 --> 01:21:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that was you know how Bombshall.

1584
01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:10.239
<v Speaker 2>This is oh huge, Yeah, because so many people were

1585
01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:13.000
<v Speaker 2>making references whenever it says no, I am your father,

1586
01:21:13.039 --> 01:21:16.199
<v Speaker 2>it's like, no, that's that's not what was said, and

1587
01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:19.119
<v Speaker 2>it was. It was even referenced in Tommy Boy with

1588
01:21:19.199 --> 01:21:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Chris Farley. He's blown in the fan.

1589
01:21:21.399 --> 01:21:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1590
01:21:21.720 --> 01:21:26.119
<v Speaker 3>I all of all of the people making videos about

1591
01:21:26.199 --> 01:21:28.279
<v Speaker 3>how it used to say Luke, I'm your father, and

1592
01:21:28.319 --> 01:21:30.479
<v Speaker 3>all the people are saying, now, look now it says no,

1593
01:21:30.560 --> 01:21:33.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm your father. Well, all of those videos. This is

1594
01:21:33.279 --> 01:21:37.560
<v Speaker 3>how freaky this is. Okay, if this is true, I

1595
01:21:37.600 --> 01:21:39.520
<v Speaker 3>gotta look at this when we get done here, because

1596
01:21:39.560 --> 01:21:40.680
<v Speaker 3>you're blowing my mind.

1597
01:21:40.840 --> 01:21:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh bro, I got a lower grade in my French

1598
01:21:43.319 --> 01:21:46.359
<v Speaker 1>class because of this scene. It's been known in my

1599
01:21:46.520 --> 01:21:47.920
<v Speaker 1>world since fucking eight.

1600
01:21:48.359 --> 01:21:52.159
<v Speaker 3>Thank you. No, the watched it change, okay to me,

1601
01:21:52.399 --> 01:21:57.079
<v Speaker 3>flip flops is our strongest evidence because it's essentially what

1602
01:21:57.319 --> 01:21:59.920
<v Speaker 3>we're watching it happen real time. I mean, it's not

1603
01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:02.880
<v Speaker 3>like a vivid past memory. This is like recent history

1604
01:22:02.880 --> 01:22:07.720
<v Speaker 3>where the entire community watched Chuck E Cheese changed the

1605
01:22:07.800 --> 01:22:11.520
<v Speaker 3>Chucky cheeses, and then it switched back again. Yep. Yeah,

1606
01:22:12.039 --> 01:22:15.720
<v Speaker 3>then it was Flintstones became Flintstone's No Sea, and it

1607
01:22:15.880 --> 01:22:21.079
<v Speaker 3>changed back tidy Cats yep, became tidy Cat. And I

1608
01:22:21.239 --> 01:22:26.159
<v Speaker 3>went to the pet store, so it's not just photoshop tricks.

1609
01:22:26.359 --> 01:22:29.880
<v Speaker 3>I saw the stuff in the store. There was no

1610
01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:32.239
<v Speaker 3>ass and I even asked the guy, Hey, did they

1611
01:22:32.359 --> 01:22:32.880
<v Speaker 3>change the name?

1612
01:22:32.920 --> 01:22:33.039
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

1613
01:22:33.079 --> 01:22:36.000
<v Speaker 3>I didn't even notice. So we're not like, you know,

1614
01:22:36.479 --> 01:22:39.119
<v Speaker 3>we're doing our homework, right. And the other one was

1615
01:22:39.399 --> 01:22:43.039
<v Speaker 3>Houston we have a problem, became Houston. We had a problem,

1616
01:22:43.520 --> 01:22:47.520
<v Speaker 3>That's what Tom Hanks says in the movie. And we're

1617
01:22:47.520 --> 01:22:50.960
<v Speaker 3>all like, no, right, we all make videos about it. Well,

1618
01:22:50.960 --> 01:22:54.920
<v Speaker 3>then what happens is we shift to another timeline, another consciousness,

1619
01:22:54.960 --> 01:22:57.720
<v Speaker 3>and another universe whatever it is. Guess what all of

1620
01:22:57.720 --> 01:23:00.840
<v Speaker 3>the videos that we created are on and there's no

1621
01:23:01.239 --> 01:23:05.000
<v Speaker 3>memory of them. It's totally freaky, man.

1622
01:23:05.279 --> 01:23:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I did this happened to me.

1623
01:23:08.199 --> 01:23:13.119
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I made a video about the Chucky Cheese thing. Okay,

1624
01:23:13.159 --> 01:23:15.840
<v Speaker 3>so Chucky Cheese. I got kids. We used to go there.

1625
01:23:16.039 --> 01:23:18.800
<v Speaker 3>They got the robots, you know, and there's video games

1626
01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:22.960
<v Speaker 3>and pizza. Right, So one day we wake up one morning,

1627
01:23:23.600 --> 01:23:26.920
<v Speaker 3>and everybody in the community is buzzing. Bro, have you

1628
01:23:27.039 --> 01:23:30.920
<v Speaker 3>seen Chucky Jesus? Now Chucky Cheeses? And I'm like, get

1629
01:23:31.039 --> 01:23:33.560
<v Speaker 3>out of here. It's Chuck E Cheese. I go to

1630
01:23:33.640 --> 01:23:36.560
<v Speaker 3>the domain name is Chucky Cheesus. I go to the

1631
01:23:36.600 --> 01:23:40.880
<v Speaker 3>website Chucky Cheeses. I go to the Wikipedia. I look

1632
01:23:40.960 --> 01:23:45.840
<v Speaker 3>up the original trademark. Bro, it's not like they changed

1633
01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:48.960
<v Speaker 3>their trade their name a few beers. This was going back.

1634
01:23:49.159 --> 01:23:53.399
<v Speaker 3>So I did a video on it where I captured

1635
01:23:54.119 --> 01:23:58.520
<v Speaker 3>the Wikipedia page in that time stream or that consciousness

1636
01:23:58.680 --> 01:24:00.760
<v Speaker 3>or whatever whatever it is, it's okay.

1637
01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, then it changes.

1638
01:24:04.960 --> 01:24:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Back again, and the video that I made is nowhere.

1639
01:24:08.960 --> 01:24:11.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, it's in another universe or something. But

1640
01:24:13.359 --> 01:24:16.239
<v Speaker 3>the picture that I took of Wikipedia I have on

1641
01:24:16.319 --> 01:24:20.039
<v Speaker 3>my computer. I have the timestamp that's what we call

1642
01:24:20.079 --> 01:24:26.439
<v Speaker 3>residual evidence. Somehow, somehow, some of the freadcrumbs or remnants

1643
01:24:26.479 --> 01:24:32.520
<v Speaker 3>from these other timelines slip through and remain in this timeline,

1644
01:24:32.560 --> 01:24:37.119
<v Speaker 3>and I have one that I created myself. And in

1645
01:24:37.159 --> 01:24:41.840
<v Speaker 3>other words, the picture that I have is from the

1646
01:24:41.880 --> 01:24:46.319
<v Speaker 3>first time. It's shifted, and the timelines based on Wikipedia

1647
01:24:46.800 --> 01:24:49.880
<v Speaker 3>are different than what they are in this timeline, and

1648
01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:53.520
<v Speaker 3>they're impossible. Basically, the name changed two years earlier in

1649
01:24:53.560 --> 01:24:56.399
<v Speaker 3>the other timeline than what it's saying it changed to now.

1650
01:24:56.399 --> 01:24:59.399
<v Speaker 3>And I have proof. So like we used to say

1651
01:24:59.439 --> 01:25:01.640
<v Speaker 3>in the hood, when I was a kid, nobody could

1652
01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:04.159
<v Speaker 3>tell me nothing. Okay, this has happening.

1653
01:25:04.239 --> 01:25:06.880
<v Speaker 2>So essentially what you're saying is is that it used

1654
01:25:06.880 --> 01:25:09.159
<v Speaker 2>to be Chucky Cheese and then it changed to Chuck

1655
01:25:09.199 --> 01:25:11.720
<v Speaker 2>E Cheese's. Whenever it changed to Chucky Cheese's, you did

1656
01:25:11.720 --> 01:25:14.239
<v Speaker 2>a whole video saying no, it was never Chucky Cheese's,

1657
01:25:14.239 --> 01:25:16.399
<v Speaker 2>it was Chuck E Cheese. And now you're saying it

1658
01:25:16.520 --> 01:25:19.199
<v Speaker 2>switched back to Chuck E Cheese without the yes of

1659
01:25:19.239 --> 01:25:22.239
<v Speaker 2>the end yep. And that's really what we're seeing rate here.

1660
01:25:22.279 --> 01:25:24.760
<v Speaker 2>So if you go and you type in Chucky Cheese

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<v Speaker 2>on Google.

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01:25:26.399 --> 01:25:28.600
<v Speaker 3>It the top the top.

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01:25:28.439 --> 01:25:31.359
<v Speaker 2>Logo, Yeah, the top logo, it says Chuck E Cheeses.

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01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:34.600
<v Speaker 2>But then the actual website is called Chuck E Cheese

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01:25:34.920 --> 01:25:35.520
<v Speaker 2>dot Com.

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01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:38.319
<v Speaker 3>Right, that's what we call residual evidence. So the data

1667
01:25:38.399 --> 01:25:40.640
<v Speaker 3>sphere isn't perfect. And I even have a scripture to

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01:25:40.680 --> 01:25:44.399
<v Speaker 3>back this up. Daniel, chapter seven, verse twenty five says

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01:25:44.439 --> 01:25:49.520
<v Speaker 3>this talking about the Antichrist, he will seek to change

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01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:55.039
<v Speaker 3>times and loss. Seek indicates that he won't do a

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01:25:55.079 --> 01:25:56.119
<v Speaker 3>perfect job at it.

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01:25:56.720 --> 01:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna he's gonna attempt, he's gonna make effort, and

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01:25:59.560 --> 01:26:03.680
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna he'll succeed in some But they didn't say

1674
01:26:03.680 --> 01:26:06.279
<v Speaker 1>that he will change the laws. They said that he

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01:26:06.319 --> 01:26:09.119
<v Speaker 1>will seek to I see, and only.

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01:26:08.880 --> 01:26:13.560
<v Speaker 3>The Bible says only God does things well, only God

1677
01:26:13.600 --> 01:26:18.000
<v Speaker 3>can do it perfectly. So this this thing, you know,

1678
01:26:18.399 --> 01:26:23.640
<v Speaker 3>we have one biblical example for sure, where the Pharaoh's

1679
01:26:23.680 --> 01:26:26.520
<v Speaker 3>magicians were able to turn a staff into a snake.

1680
01:26:26.600 --> 01:26:30.760
<v Speaker 3>So we know that alchemy or messing with the construct,

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01:26:30.840 --> 01:26:34.600
<v Speaker 3>it is a power from the Bible that God's are

1682
01:26:35.039 --> 01:26:37.960
<v Speaker 3>that the Devil's crowd can do. They can they can

1683
01:26:38.039 --> 01:26:40.960
<v Speaker 3>morph a piece of wood into a complex organism. Well,

1684
01:26:41.359 --> 01:26:43.199
<v Speaker 3>this is just that on a big scale.

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01:26:44.079 --> 01:26:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, I've also heard the argument that that was actually

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01:26:46.279 --> 01:26:48.760
<v Speaker 1>an illusion. While they threw their staffs down and they

1687
01:26:48.760 --> 01:26:51.840
<v Speaker 1>had the appearance that they were serpents, they were easily

1688
01:26:51.840 --> 01:26:55.239
<v Speaker 1>defeated by Moses' staff that actually became a live serpent

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01:26:55.560 --> 01:26:58.600
<v Speaker 1>because of God's power. So it's more like the magicians

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01:26:58.640 --> 01:27:01.720
<v Speaker 1>whenever the water turned red with blood and they calmed

1691
01:27:01.760 --> 01:27:04.159
<v Speaker 1>Pharaoh down and showed him a version of something like that.

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01:27:04.239 --> 01:27:07.399
<v Speaker 1>It was more or less an imitation or a mutation

1693
01:27:07.680 --> 01:27:11.960
<v Speaker 1>or a bastardization, if you will, of God's glory, which

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01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:14.920
<v Speaker 1>is all dark magic really is. It's a way of

1695
01:27:15.039 --> 01:27:18.439
<v Speaker 1>changing the nature of something in order to give it

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01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:21.479
<v Speaker 1>different abilities in what it's supposed to, or at least

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01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:23.680
<v Speaker 1>make it look like this, essentially smoking mirrors.

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01:27:24.680 --> 01:27:27.479
<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, I looked at it, and it says

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01:27:27.520 --> 01:27:30.560
<v Speaker 3>they used their dark arts. Indeed, I don't. I don't

1700
01:27:30.560 --> 01:27:32.800
<v Speaker 3>think it's slight of hand. And I'm still freaking out

1701
01:27:32.840 --> 01:27:34.840
<v Speaker 3>that the thing says, Luke, I'm your father.

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01:27:34.840 --> 01:27:37.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh do I'm not joking with you. This goes back

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01:27:37.479 --> 01:27:39.600
<v Speaker 1>to eight I was in my French class and we

1704
01:27:39.640 --> 01:27:41.960
<v Speaker 1>had an assignment that we had to act out a

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01:27:42.079 --> 01:27:46.319
<v Speaker 1>very famous movie scene in French. No problem. Me and

1706
01:27:46.359 --> 01:27:48.840
<v Speaker 1>my buddy were kind of slackers, gonna be honest, so

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01:27:48.880 --> 01:27:52.239
<v Speaker 1>we went with an easy scene with very little titles

1708
01:27:52.399 --> 01:27:54.920
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of sword play. We got little lightsabers

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01:27:54.960 --> 01:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>who came to school and we had rehearsed our lines

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01:27:56.880 --> 01:27:59.000
<v Speaker 1>back and forth because and we didn't watch the movie

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01:27:59.079 --> 01:28:02.239
<v Speaker 1>because we know this scene Luke, I am your father.

1712
01:28:02.319 --> 01:28:06.760
<v Speaker 1>That's a very famous quotable. Everybody knows it. We made

1713
01:28:06.840 --> 01:28:10.159
<v Speaker 1>a C minus on this because, come to find out,

1714
01:28:10.199 --> 01:28:12.720
<v Speaker 1>my French teacher was a diehard Star Wars fan and

1715
01:28:12.760 --> 01:28:14.399
<v Speaker 1>did not like that. We didn't know it, and blah

1716
01:28:14.399 --> 01:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>blah blah. We're like, no, what are you talking about?

1717
01:28:17.119 --> 01:28:19.720
<v Speaker 1>This is eight and we had this and we were

1718
01:28:19.760 --> 01:28:22.359
<v Speaker 1>losing our shit over it. But of course we're just

1719
01:28:22.720 --> 01:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>to you know, lose your high schoolers. What do we know?

1720
01:28:25.159 --> 01:28:27.560
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, whoa, I know what I know?

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01:28:28.319 --> 01:28:31.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Man, wait, you mean you got a C minus

1722
01:28:31.800 --> 01:28:34.359
<v Speaker 3>because you said it Luke and she knew it was no,

1723
01:28:34.520 --> 01:28:36.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm your father? And that was two thousand and eight.

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01:28:36.680 --> 01:28:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, to be fair, we didn't just get that one

1725
01:28:38.880 --> 01:28:41.359
<v Speaker 1>line wrong, but that was one that like she made

1726
01:28:41.399 --> 01:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>a big thing in the class about because she was

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01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:45.239
<v Speaker 1>actually a Star Wars fan. So it's funny.

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01:28:45.319 --> 01:28:47.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, can you play that?

1729
01:28:47.640 --> 01:28:49.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I'm actually pulling it up.

1730
01:28:49.520 --> 01:28:52.720
<v Speaker 2>This is actual, like literally from the Star Wars dot

1731
01:28:52.760 --> 01:28:55.680
<v Speaker 2>com website. Okay, because you never know, let's take it,

1732
01:28:55.760 --> 01:28:57.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, straight from the horse's mouth. Let's see what

1733
01:28:57.680 --> 01:28:59.199
<v Speaker 2>it's gotta say in this scene.

1734
01:28:59.279 --> 01:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>What does Disney have to say on it.

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01:29:00.920 --> 01:29:03.520
<v Speaker 3>Man, it's towards the end, so you don't have to

1736
01:29:03.520 --> 01:29:06.159
<v Speaker 3>play the whole thing. It's towards It's like when it's

1737
01:29:06.279 --> 01:29:08.159
<v Speaker 3>like when Luke is all the way over on the

1738
01:29:08.439 --> 01:29:09.079
<v Speaker 3>on the thing.

1739
01:29:09.399 --> 01:29:11.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh it's not let me do It's only two

1740
01:29:11.359 --> 01:29:11.880
<v Speaker 1>minutes longer.

1741
01:29:16.319 --> 01:29:19.960
<v Speaker 4>This man, it is useless to resist. Don't let yourself

1742
01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:39.399
<v Speaker 4>be destroyed. As all be wanted, there is no escape.

1743
01:29:40.640 --> 01:29:47.159
<v Speaker 4>Don't make me destroy you. Fluke, you do not yet

1744
01:29:47.239 --> 01:29:51.199
<v Speaker 4>realize your importance. You have when you become to discover

1745
01:29:51.319 --> 01:29:56.039
<v Speaker 4>your power, Shoin me and I will complete your training

1746
01:29:56.920 --> 01:30:02.000
<v Speaker 4>with all combined strength we can in this destructive conflict

1747
01:30:02.399 --> 01:30:04.520
<v Speaker 4>and bring order to the galaxy.

1748
01:30:05.039 --> 01:30:06.279
<v Speaker 3>I'll never join you.

1749
01:30:07.079 --> 01:30:10.960
<v Speaker 4>If you only knew the power of the dark side

1750
01:30:11.680 --> 01:30:15.319
<v Speaker 4>will be one never told you what happened to your father.

1751
01:30:16.279 --> 01:30:21.720
<v Speaker 3>He told me enough. He told me you killed me.

1752
01:30:22.159 --> 01:30:25.319
<v Speaker 4>No I am your father.

1753
01:30:30.279 --> 01:30:31.279
<v Speaker 3>That one says, no.

1754
01:30:31.439 --> 01:30:34.760
<v Speaker 1>I just wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Let's see if

1755
01:30:34.800 --> 01:30:36.520
<v Speaker 1>he if he does he say something after that.

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01:30:37.640 --> 01:30:40.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's what he says, but let's see what else.

1757
01:30:40.880 --> 01:30:41.840
<v Speaker 2>It's only another minute.

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01:30:41.880 --> 01:30:42.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying.

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01:30:42.319 --> 01:30:44.359
<v Speaker 1>If he reiterates it and says it a different way,

1760
01:30:44.399 --> 01:30:46.079
<v Speaker 1>maybe we're holding on to hope.

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01:30:46.119 --> 01:30:53.760
<v Speaker 3>Here. Let's see, I'm not through that impossible spiritual feelings.

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01:30:53.840 --> 01:31:05.279
<v Speaker 3>You know, It's be true.

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01:31:03.319 --> 01:31:08.119
<v Speaker 4>Luke, you can destroy the emperors for scenes.

1764
01:31:08.960 --> 01:31:13.119
<v Speaker 1>It is your destiny.

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01:31:13.239 --> 01:31:17.880
<v Speaker 4>And together we can rule the galaxy? Is fathering?

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01:31:21.640 --> 01:31:28.319
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

1767
01:31:29.079 --> 01:31:29.680
<v Speaker 3>Come with me?

1768
01:31:30.920 --> 01:31:32.720
<v Speaker 4>It is the only play.

1769
01:31:34.800 --> 01:31:35.600
<v Speaker 3>I love that part.

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01:31:36.560 --> 01:31:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, James Earl Jones, God, that voice.

1771
01:31:41.399 --> 01:31:42.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh it's great, isn't it? That?

1772
01:31:42.840 --> 01:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>That breaks my heart? I thought we were onto something.

1773
01:31:45.479 --> 01:31:47.479
<v Speaker 3>Well, bro, I pulled I pulled it up Luke on

1774
01:31:47.600 --> 01:31:49.319
<v Speaker 3>your Father on YouTube and I played it and it

1775
01:31:49.399 --> 01:31:53.199
<v Speaker 3>did say Luke. So somebody probably edited it. Yeah, they're

1776
01:31:53.239 --> 01:31:56.840
<v Speaker 3>running it. But but the flip flops are totally real.

1777
01:31:56.960 --> 01:31:59.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean that is to me, our number one proof

1778
01:32:00.560 --> 01:32:04.319
<v Speaker 3>that this is not just misremembered because we basically watched

1779
01:32:04.319 --> 01:32:04.720
<v Speaker 3>it happen.

1780
01:32:05.239 --> 01:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no doubt, dude.

1781
01:32:06.800 --> 01:32:09.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and and things that are that are happening

1782
01:32:10.119 --> 01:32:14.439
<v Speaker 2>into things like how you how you just said, I mean,

1783
01:32:14.680 --> 01:32:17.680
<v Speaker 2>you're you're getting into scripture. People that have known this

1784
01:32:17.800 --> 01:32:19.880
<v Speaker 2>like the back of their hand, the words that are

1785
01:32:19.880 --> 01:32:21.640
<v Speaker 2>in there, you know. And the point that we made

1786
01:32:21.720 --> 01:32:24.560
<v Speaker 2>last time was, you know, what was it the lamb

1787
01:32:24.720 --> 01:32:29.159
<v Speaker 2>and the what was it the lion and the right,

1788
01:32:29.199 --> 01:32:30.760
<v Speaker 2>You're supposed to be the lion of the lamb, right,

1789
01:32:30.760 --> 01:32:31.119
<v Speaker 2>but then.

1790
01:32:31.039 --> 01:32:33.960
<v Speaker 3>It changed and it's not it's the wolf.

1791
01:32:34.680 --> 01:32:36.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who fucking remembers a wolf?

1792
01:32:36.399 --> 01:32:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Dude?

1793
01:32:36.880 --> 01:32:40.479
<v Speaker 1>Nobody, nobody, But there's there's reason for that bro symbolism

1794
01:32:40.520 --> 01:32:42.800
<v Speaker 1>across the board. Now, wolves may not have been a

1795
01:32:42.800 --> 01:32:45.159
<v Speaker 1>big thing that they had to worry about very much

1796
01:32:45.199 --> 01:32:47.720
<v Speaker 1>anyway in Israel, but like the people of the north

1797
01:32:47.760 --> 01:32:50.880
<v Speaker 1>of Europe would have had a very strong connection to

1798
01:32:50.960 --> 01:32:54.279
<v Speaker 1>the wolf, so they changed the wording to the area

1799
01:32:54.319 --> 01:32:56.560
<v Speaker 1>of which they were trying to roll. So like, you know, hey,

1800
01:32:56.840 --> 01:32:59.279
<v Speaker 1>europe royalty is the lion, Okay, but I.

1801
01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:01.640
<v Speaker 3>Like a response to that. I gotta response to that.

1802
01:33:01.720 --> 01:33:04.560
<v Speaker 3>You're an aging parent. Listen to this. You go to

1803
01:33:04.600 --> 01:33:06.920
<v Speaker 3>your aging parent and they're through five, but you go

1804
01:33:06.960 --> 01:33:11.560
<v Speaker 3>to them and like who are you? And they say, well, mom,

1805
01:33:11.680 --> 01:33:16.159
<v Speaker 3>this is Jacob. And then she goes she goes, I

1806
01:33:16.239 --> 01:33:20.640
<v Speaker 3>don't know you, and and you go, Mom, why don't

1807
01:33:20.680 --> 01:33:24.800
<v Speaker 3>you recognize me? And she says, because the underlying entomology

1808
01:33:24.840 --> 01:33:27.560
<v Speaker 3>of your name means I don't recognize you.

1809
01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:32.039
<v Speaker 1>And my mom would actually be a she has a

1810
01:33:32.039 --> 01:33:34.359
<v Speaker 1>sense of humor, So if my name meant that she

1811
01:33:34.399 --> 01:33:36.399
<v Speaker 1>would probably actually do that a good bit.

1812
01:33:37.039 --> 01:33:42.159
<v Speaker 3>You get point that dude trying to trying to rationalize

1813
01:33:42.239 --> 01:33:44.880
<v Speaker 3>why it's there doesn't answer why it's there.

1814
01:33:44.960 --> 01:33:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, I'm not trying to rationalize, and I

1815
01:33:47.119 --> 01:33:51.119
<v Speaker 1>absolutely disagree with changing it period ever. But I also

1816
01:33:51.359 --> 01:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that like as they very similarly to how

1817
01:33:54.880 --> 01:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>the Catholic Church, who was the dominant force of Christianity

1818
01:33:57.680 --> 01:34:00.239
<v Speaker 1>at for a very long while, as much as they

1819
01:34:00.239 --> 01:34:02.600
<v Speaker 1>whenever they tried to envelop all of the Pagans and

1820
01:34:02.640 --> 01:34:05.039
<v Speaker 1>they said, oh, look you have this pantheon of God's

1821
01:34:05.039 --> 01:34:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Look do we got saints that are just like those

1822
01:34:08.119 --> 01:34:12.479
<v Speaker 1>we feasted them too? It's that kind of thing exactly.

1823
01:34:12.560 --> 01:34:16.039
<v Speaker 1>So why would it change from this predatory animal to

1824
01:34:16.119 --> 01:34:19.840
<v Speaker 1>this predatory animal. It's a predatory animal.

1825
01:34:19.560 --> 01:34:24.439
<v Speaker 3>You know. Here's because I understand that sentiment, but I

1826
01:34:24.520 --> 01:34:30.000
<v Speaker 3>tried to come up with searing logic that it's just irrefutable.

1827
01:34:30.079 --> 01:34:33.399
<v Speaker 3>So one of them is this now part of this

1828
01:34:33.560 --> 01:34:35.720
<v Speaker 3>I can prove this with with we'll do our own

1829
01:34:35.720 --> 01:34:39.399
<v Speaker 3>fill in the Black's examples. But I've gone at this point,

1830
01:34:39.439 --> 01:34:42.880
<v Speaker 3>I've sat across the desk from at least twenty maybe

1831
01:34:42.920 --> 01:34:46.199
<v Speaker 3>even thirty pastors. I can't really keep track, but and

1832
01:34:46.279 --> 01:34:48.600
<v Speaker 3>in every case I could stump them. Ten out of

1833
01:34:48.600 --> 01:34:51.640
<v Speaker 3>ten who lay down with the lamp the lion, they go,

1834
01:34:51.720 --> 01:34:55.000
<v Speaker 3>there's to wolf, judge not black. You be judged judge

1835
01:34:55.039 --> 01:34:57.800
<v Speaker 3>not lest you be judged wrong. And then I would go,

1836
01:34:59.119 --> 01:35:03.319
<v Speaker 3>the Lord thanks, and the Lord blanks away. King James Job,

1837
01:35:03.439 --> 01:35:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Chapter one. The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. Wrong,

1838
01:35:08.079 --> 01:35:12.079
<v Speaker 3>it's the Lord gave and the Lord hath taken away.

1839
01:35:12.439 --> 01:35:15.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was a referring about that. He was referring

1840
01:35:15.439 --> 01:35:17.680
<v Speaker 1>to the big picture. He was talking about himself. The

1841
01:35:17.720 --> 01:35:21.439
<v Speaker 1>Lord hath given to me, and the Lord hath taken

1842
01:35:21.479 --> 01:35:23.960
<v Speaker 1>away is and he just took it all away. He

1843
01:35:24.039 --> 01:35:25.479
<v Speaker 1>was talking about himself physically.

1844
01:35:26.039 --> 01:35:28.359
<v Speaker 3>Right. But if your name is Jonathan and you wake

1845
01:35:28.439 --> 01:35:31.159
<v Speaker 3>up and it's Jim, it's all the explanations of relevant.

1846
01:35:31.159 --> 01:35:35.960
<v Speaker 3>It's your memory failing. It's a catastrophic memory failure. Yeah,

1847
01:35:36.239 --> 01:35:39.960
<v Speaker 3>that's happening to all of humanity simultaneously.

1848
01:35:40.399 --> 01:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm wondering if the job reference is to yes,

1849
01:35:43.760 --> 01:35:46.720
<v Speaker 1>they understand or most at this point probably wouldn't understand.

1850
01:35:46.760 --> 01:35:49.039
<v Speaker 1>But if it was originally intended a yes, that's not

1851
01:35:49.079 --> 01:35:52.159
<v Speaker 1>a direct quote, but it's a way to tell somebody

1852
01:35:52.199 --> 01:35:55.159
<v Speaker 1>it to easily apply it to their day and age

1853
01:35:55.159 --> 01:35:58.640
<v Speaker 1>and what they're going through. Kind of a kind of

1854
01:35:58.680 --> 01:36:01.960
<v Speaker 1>like the whole golden rule thing isn't actually a biblical

1855
01:36:02.159 --> 01:36:04.560
<v Speaker 1>one for one ratio. That's kind of a thing that

1856
01:36:04.680 --> 01:36:05.680
<v Speaker 1>culture took over with.

1857
01:36:05.840 --> 01:36:08.119
<v Speaker 3>All right, So you're putting forth a hypothesis.

1858
01:36:08.199 --> 01:36:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, just a hypothesis.

1859
01:36:09.680 --> 01:36:12.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay. So my response to that is, you still your

1860
01:36:12.800 --> 01:36:17.800
<v Speaker 3>hypothesis doesn't explain how this vivid memory has gotten into

1861
01:36:17.840 --> 01:36:21.479
<v Speaker 3>the minds of everybody. And here's a key, here's a

1862
01:36:21.560 --> 01:36:27.520
<v Speaker 3>key observation. Nobody is misremembering it differently, okay. In other words,

1863
01:36:27.560 --> 01:36:32.000
<v Speaker 3>we're all misremembering. If we're misremembering, we're all misremembering the

1864
01:36:32.079 --> 01:36:35.960
<v Speaker 3>same way. Yeah. So you you know, after a while,

1865
01:36:36.000 --> 01:36:40.800
<v Speaker 3>the the scientific discipline of probabilities kicks in and you

1866
01:36:40.880 --> 01:36:43.640
<v Speaker 3>have to you have to cry uncle, now I hear you.

1867
01:36:43.720 --> 01:36:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Now that makes a lot of sense, as nobody is

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01:36:46.199 --> 01:36:49.239
<v Speaker 1>misremembering any other portion of it rather than that.

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<v Speaker 3>And it isn't just one, right, it's like fifty of them.

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<v Speaker 3>All right. So here's what I found. All right, So

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<v Speaker 3>you got a pilot, a doctor, and a preacher. They're

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<v Speaker 3>all content experts in their field. And we'll take the pilot.

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<v Speaker 3>First example, a record flew in the military. Now he's

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<v Speaker 3>thirty years in the commercial alliance, and now he's actually

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<v Speaker 3>a trainer. And now you're gonna give him a test

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<v Speaker 3>of ten simple instrument questions. And you're gonna just just

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<v Speaker 3>identify what the instrument does. Okay, that's the ultimeter. Correct,

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01:37:20.680 --> 01:37:23.800
<v Speaker 3>next one? All right, So out of ten, how many

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01:37:23.880 --> 01:37:26.079
<v Speaker 3>do you what is your expectation? How many would he

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<v Speaker 3>get right?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably ten?

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<v Speaker 3>Probably it made if you can't get Tenny's but he

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01:37:30.319 --> 01:37:32.920
<v Speaker 3>shouldn't be flying right right right right right. Now we'll

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<v Speaker 3>go to the doctor who's a content expert, went to

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01:37:35.520 --> 01:37:38.880
<v Speaker 3>med school. Now he's the chief of staff. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>give him ten basic anatomy questions. What's this on the

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01:37:42.840 --> 01:37:44.840
<v Speaker 3>outside of your body? It covers your whole body, the

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01:37:44.920 --> 01:37:50.119
<v Speaker 3>upper dermis. Correct. Okay, you give them ten basic anatomy questions.

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01:37:50.279 --> 01:37:51.359
<v Speaker 3>How many is he gonna get right?

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<v Speaker 1>And you think I would argue probably ten?

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<v Speaker 3>You'd have to right now. A third example, you've got

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<v Speaker 3>a King James only past with a King James Bible.

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01:38:02.399 --> 01:38:04.520
<v Speaker 3>He went to Bible. Cologey he's been in the ministry.

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01:38:05.039 --> 01:38:07.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to give him step out of the book, Ezekiel.

1895
01:38:07.359 --> 01:38:10.319
<v Speaker 3>This is like judge, not unless you be judged. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>in the beginning, God created the heaven on the earth.

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01:38:14.520 --> 01:38:17.239
<v Speaker 3>And how many do you think he's going to get? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>If he is a pastor with thirty years of doing

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<v Speaker 1>this and he is a strictly King James pastor, I

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01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:28.960
<v Speaker 1>would hope that he would get ten out of ten. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the real.

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<v Speaker 2>Question is why didn't you make that caveat for the

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<v Speaker 2>for the doctors, or for the pilot, or for anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but that's what he did. He gave that caveat.

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01:38:38.800 --> 01:38:40.680
<v Speaker 1>He said, this pilot flew in the military and all

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<v Speaker 1>these things, and you gave him that test. Okay, so

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01:38:43.159 --> 01:38:44.560
<v Speaker 1>they're a doctor King.

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<v Speaker 2>James, assuming that this King James pastor was knows his

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01:38:51.199 --> 01:38:53.039
<v Speaker 2>shit left down right and up.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, just time and great? How about that.

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01:38:55.279 --> 01:38:57.399
<v Speaker 1>Let's just say a King James only pastor who has

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<v Speaker 1>been actively shepherding a flock for thirty years.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the Bible School. Yeah, he's you know, he's

1914
01:39:04.399 --> 01:39:06.800
<v Speaker 3>preached his whole life, right, So I say King James

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<v Speaker 3>only because that eliminates the idea that it's a no

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01:39:11.039 --> 01:39:14.479
<v Speaker 3>doubt he's confusing it with other translations because he doesn't

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01:39:14.520 --> 01:39:18.439
<v Speaker 3>read other translations. So I'm eliminating that possibility.

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<v Speaker 2>Essentially Eli from the Book of Eli, right, like he

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01:39:22.359 --> 01:39:24.000
<v Speaker 2>knows it that well, yes, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, all right. So the point is all of us,

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<v Speaker 3>if we're honest, okay, have the expectation the pastor is

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<v Speaker 3>going to get ten out of ten right as well,

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01:39:33.199 --> 01:39:36.199
<v Speaker 3>what is really happening is the pastor's getting ten out

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01:39:36.199 --> 01:39:39.680
<v Speaker 3>of ten raw, oh every time I do.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, we're warn people to test the spirit at

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01:39:42.920 --> 01:39:45.800
<v Speaker 1>your house of worship. You should be able to test

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01:39:45.840 --> 01:39:48.039
<v Speaker 1>the spirit very clearly to see if your pastor is

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01:39:48.079 --> 01:39:50.079
<v Speaker 1>preaching from the book or from his own.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, but I mean, you can't really say test

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<v Speaker 2>the spirit on that one. Yes you can if you're

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01:39:54.760 --> 01:39:57.079
<v Speaker 2>going into the Bible and maybe it sounds wrong is

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<v Speaker 2>what you're saying, that, then you go and double check

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<v Speaker 2>it in the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying if he's preaching an entire sermon off of

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<v Speaker 1>one scripture and the rest of it is chicken soup

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01:40:06.079 --> 01:40:09.399
<v Speaker 1>for the soul, feel good stuff, versus somebody who's gonna

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01:40:09.439 --> 01:40:11.840
<v Speaker 1>go in on the word and break it down and

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01:40:11.960 --> 01:40:14.720
<v Speaker 1>explain it thoroughly and get the there's a difference.

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<v Speaker 3>Bro Sure, sure, I'm trying to make the observation that

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01:40:18.279 --> 01:40:22.079
<v Speaker 3>there's something unexplainable happening, and that observation is the proof.

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<v Speaker 3>Because what conclusion would you draw if the pilot couldn't

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01:40:27.000 --> 01:40:30.640
<v Speaker 3>identify ten simple instruments and he's not drunk, he doesn't

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01:40:30.640 --> 01:40:33.439
<v Speaker 3>have mental illness, and there's nobody running a scam. What

1944
01:40:33.640 --> 01:40:37.159
<v Speaker 3>conclusion would you draw? Because remember, the pilot has an

1945
01:40:37.239 --> 01:40:42.079
<v Speaker 3>exemplary record and he's a trainer. So if he can't identify,

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01:40:43.159 --> 01:40:46.760
<v Speaker 3>listen carefully to this is this is this bombshell. If

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01:40:46.840 --> 01:40:50.680
<v Speaker 3>he cannot identify ten instruments and he doesn't have mental

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01:40:50.680 --> 01:40:52.000
<v Speaker 3>illness around drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you explain that Alzheimer's No, he doesn't have

1950
01:40:56.119 --> 01:40:59.800
<v Speaker 1>mental illness. Okay, okay, I'm a really.

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01:41:01.920 --> 01:41:05.920
<v Speaker 3>Unexplainable explain it. I painted you into the freaking quarterer.

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01:41:06.039 --> 01:41:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Bro No, no, no, I love you, Oh I love

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01:41:08.760 --> 01:41:11.520
<v Speaker 1>this man. I'm just thinking there is no way, no

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01:41:11.680 --> 01:41:17.359
<v Speaker 1>milit to illness, no inhibitors of any type, been doing

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01:41:17.399 --> 01:41:19.560
<v Speaker 1>it for forever, no cop outs whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>It just happens to be a weird phenomenon that's happening

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01:41:22.560 --> 01:41:23.119
<v Speaker 2>to his life.

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01:41:23.199 --> 01:41:27.479
<v Speaker 1>Either he a forcibly through the test for whatever reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Song right, total Twilight's exactly pastor, okay, So so give

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<v Speaker 3>it up people. The pastor can't identify ten out of

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01:41:36.760 --> 01:41:41.039
<v Speaker 3>ten basic nursery, rhyme, pastor scriptures, just no way to

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01:41:41.119 --> 01:41:44.239
<v Speaker 3>explain it. It's a phenomenon, that's what it's called. It's

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<v Speaker 3>called a sign and a wonder in the Book of

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01:41:46.680 --> 01:41:52.800
<v Speaker 3>Salonians Thessalonians, chapter two, second Thessalonians Chapter two says that

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<v Speaker 3>the Antichrist is going to come with all lying signs

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<v Speaker 3>and wonders. Well, guess what it's not in the trip

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<v Speaker 3>it's right now, it's twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But but but lying about signs and wonders, that wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be a reflection of what is going on in the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>If if the scripture is the Word is God right like,

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01:42:13.680 --> 01:42:14.560
<v Speaker 2>so it can't be both.

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<v Speaker 1>Which one are you saying? Which one?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think that I didn't understand?

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<v Speaker 2>Say that again, Well, you're saying that essentially that you

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01:42:20.479 --> 01:42:25.279
<v Speaker 2>know the devil would come out and basically like change

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01:42:25.840 --> 01:42:28.079
<v Speaker 2>change things up? Are you saying, is that what you

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01:42:28.159 --> 01:42:30.800
<v Speaker 2>think is actually going on? Or is the or is

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<v Speaker 2>the scripture actual word of God that is living and

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<v Speaker 2>breathing and constantly changing.

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<v Speaker 1>See I take it to be the second option. You're

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<v Speaker 1>actually postulating that the devil is the one changing the Bible.

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<v Speaker 3>God's allowing it, and He's using the devil to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my belief.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, God has used this.

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01:42:49.520 --> 01:42:52.760
<v Speaker 3>Amos eight tells us God says, I will send to famine.

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01:42:52.840 --> 01:42:56.600
<v Speaker 3>So God's doing it. However, just like with Job, in

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01:42:56.640 --> 01:42:59.199
<v Speaker 3>the Book of Job, chapter one, we have this little

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01:42:59.279 --> 01:43:02.960
<v Speaker 3>vignette where the angels came before God and it says

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01:43:03.079 --> 01:43:07.680
<v Speaker 3>and Satan also came, and God strikes up this conversation

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01:43:07.920 --> 01:43:11.079
<v Speaker 3>with Satan. He says, hey, Satan, where are you been. Oh,

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01:43:11.199 --> 01:43:13.920
<v Speaker 3>I've been walking around on the earth and walking back

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01:43:13.960 --> 01:43:16.600
<v Speaker 3>and forth on it. And he's like okay. And then

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01:43:16.680 --> 01:43:21.720
<v Speaker 3>the God then initiates this conversation about Job. He says,

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<v Speaker 3>have you seen my servant Job. It's like God has

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01:43:25.319 --> 01:43:28.680
<v Speaker 3>this narration, this thing going out with the devil. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>the devil says, oh, he just serves you because you

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01:43:32.119 --> 01:43:35.399
<v Speaker 3>bless him, right, And so God says, all right, all

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01:43:35.520 --> 01:43:39.000
<v Speaker 3>that's in his hands are in your power. That's what

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01:43:39.119 --> 01:43:42.640
<v Speaker 3>God said to the to the devil, he lifted the hedge.

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01:43:42.960 --> 01:43:46.720
<v Speaker 3>He gave permission the first time to mess with his stuff,

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01:43:46.880 --> 01:43:51.479
<v Speaker 3>but couldn't touch Job. So my point is in that example,

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01:43:52.279 --> 01:43:54.159
<v Speaker 3>it was God elect.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, oh, you cut out there for a second.

2005
01:44:00.119 --> 01:44:03.000
<v Speaker 2>That last part allowed what okay?

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01:44:03.119 --> 01:44:06.199
<v Speaker 3>So in Job we see that God allowed it because

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01:44:06.239 --> 01:44:09.399
<v Speaker 3>he told the devil, all that is in Job's hands

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01:44:09.520 --> 01:44:10.159
<v Speaker 3>is in your power.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but we also know the Book of Job is

2010
01:44:12.520 --> 01:44:15.319
<v Speaker 1>a parable and it's not to be taken literally because

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01:44:15.720 --> 01:44:16.279
<v Speaker 1>the fact that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not really.

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<v Speaker 1>But in this example specifically, we know that God is

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<v Speaker 1>an all good right in the fact that we as

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01:44:25.079 --> 01:44:27.359
<v Speaker 1>humans are of unclean rags and are not even worthy

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01:44:27.399 --> 01:44:29.880
<v Speaker 1>to be in his presence. I would argue the devil

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01:44:29.960 --> 01:44:32.279
<v Speaker 1>is also unworthy to be in God's presence. That's why

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01:44:32.319 --> 01:44:34.960
<v Speaker 1>he was cast out. The entire premise that God and

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01:44:35.079 --> 01:44:37.720
<v Speaker 1>the Satan are just kind of bebopping chat chatting about

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01:44:37.760 --> 01:44:40.439
<v Speaker 1>this completely defeats the premise of God being an all

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01:44:40.520 --> 01:44:43.119
<v Speaker 1>good and all powerful entity that can only you know

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01:44:43.119 --> 01:44:45.760
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Only good can be within him. All

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01:44:45.840 --> 01:44:48.279
<v Speaker 1>else will be rebuked. And cast out, so we know

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01:44:48.399 --> 01:44:50.600
<v Speaker 1>the story of Job to be a parable to teach

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01:44:50.680 --> 01:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>us that we need to be as hardcore in our

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01:44:53.600 --> 01:44:56.000
<v Speaker 1>beliefs and in our faith as possible, because God in

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01:44:56.119 --> 01:44:58.439
<v Speaker 1>fact does take care of his own regardless of the

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01:44:58.520 --> 01:45:01.079
<v Speaker 1>situations of the circumstance that we may find ourselves in,

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01:45:01.239 --> 01:45:02.920
<v Speaker 1>even supernaturally.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, parable or not, it's still the story, right,

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01:45:05.600 --> 01:45:08.479
<v Speaker 2>And that's how all of these things. Yeah, like whenever

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01:45:08.560 --> 01:45:10.880
<v Speaker 2>you're reading it like, it doesn't matter if it really

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01:45:10.960 --> 01:45:13.199
<v Speaker 2>happened or not in my opinion, And the reason is

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01:45:13.359 --> 01:45:16.159
<v Speaker 2>is because how are how are you taking this information

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01:45:16.439 --> 01:45:19.520
<v Speaker 2>and portraying it throughout your life whether it happened or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Who gives a shit? I mean, it's about what you

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01:45:22.399 --> 01:45:23.199
<v Speaker 1>know if I tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>If I tell you, people to care it, I know,

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01:45:28.000 --> 01:45:30.119
<v Speaker 2>but it defeats the purpose of the whole thing, right, Like,

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01:45:30.359 --> 01:45:32.319
<v Speaker 2>if it happened or if it didn't, as long as

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01:45:32.359 --> 01:45:34.119
<v Speaker 2>it's God's word, then who cares?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>But it also depends because we're talking about the basis

2044
01:45:38.439 --> 01:45:41.119
<v Speaker 1>of a lot of people's cultural history, not just the Jews.

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01:45:41.560 --> 01:45:43.560
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people get referenced in the Bible and

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01:45:43.800 --> 01:45:45.960
<v Speaker 1>use the Bible as a reference to, like, look, we

2047
01:45:46.039 --> 01:45:47.560
<v Speaker 1>are from this era. This is us.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the Persians hardcore still claim I ran through Cyrus

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01:45:51.640 --> 01:45:54.439
<v Speaker 1>the Great, that is mentioned in the Bible as Cyrus

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01:45:54.479 --> 01:45:56.680
<v Speaker 1>the Great, even though he himself was a Zoroastrian. But

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01:45:56.760 --> 01:45:59.000
<v Speaker 1>that's neither here nor there. The fact that he liberated

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01:45:59.039 --> 01:46:02.079
<v Speaker 1>the Hebrews for their bondage at that time made him

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01:46:02.119 --> 01:46:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Cyrus the Great. And that's a historical thing that multiple

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01:46:04.760 --> 01:46:08.560
<v Speaker 1>cultures take reference from. So the truth in the the

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01:46:09.239 --> 01:46:13.000
<v Speaker 1>fact of the matter does in fact matter. But to

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01:46:13.079 --> 01:46:15.880
<v Speaker 1>a certain point, the Old Testament, like we've talked about,

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01:46:15.960 --> 01:46:18.199
<v Speaker 1>is like a history lesson, right, It's a history lesson

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01:46:18.239 --> 01:46:19.840
<v Speaker 1>to teach us how and why we got to the

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01:46:19.840 --> 01:46:24.000
<v Speaker 1>point of needing Jesus. And it's it is like the milk. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's how the world wors created. God's spoken to existence.

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<v Speaker 1>Did it give the nitty gritty of the atomic theory

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<v Speaker 1>of the big bang and then boom and then bop

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01:46:31.520 --> 01:46:32.920
<v Speaker 1>and then bee? But that now, look, how do you

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01:46:33.000 --> 01:46:35.680
<v Speaker 1>explain sex to a child? Okay, you can't do that.

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01:46:35.840 --> 01:46:38.239
<v Speaker 1>God's not going to explain his methods to us. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>we're humans. Our brains can't handle that. So he gave

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<v Speaker 1>us what we needed to know. He didn't lie. He

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01:46:43.079 --> 01:46:44.840
<v Speaker 1>gave us the facts that we needed to know. That

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<v Speaker 1>is pertinent to us.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmmm, sounds like Jonathan has something to say about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wholeheartedly disagree with that because they're before and

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's I mean, think.

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<v Speaker 1>About it, dude.

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01:47:00.359 --> 01:47:02.720
<v Speaker 2>The Bible is the one book that is constantly living

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<v Speaker 2>and it's God's word, no matter if it was two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand years ago or right now, right right, so, But

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, God was talking to those people two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand years ago whenever it was written, because they were

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<v Speaker 2>incapable of understanding, you know, as much science as we

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01:47:17.520 --> 01:47:21.079
<v Speaker 2>are today. They were uncapable of understanding the quantum realm

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<v Speaker 2>and how to get into space. I mean, back in

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01:47:23.039 --> 01:47:25.079
<v Speaker 2>those days, they built a fucking tower to get to

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<v Speaker 2>heaven and they couldn't get there, right. But nowadays we've

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01:47:27.600 --> 01:47:31.359
<v Speaker 2>got space shuttles I mean supposedly that are going elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I'm saying is the information that we have

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<v Speaker 2>right now is definitely not worthy of understanding from God.

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<v Speaker 1>What no hold on, hold on, Yeah, we may be

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01:47:40.000 --> 01:47:43.439
<v Speaker 1>more technologically advanced, but you have argued multiple times that

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<v Speaker 1>we are so much dumber than the human beings spiritual years. Spiritually,

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<v Speaker 1>I would argue physically these people were living five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>years on average.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you can make an argument a long time. You

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01:47:54.640 --> 01:47:56.239
<v Speaker 2>can make an argument that it has to do with

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01:47:56.319 --> 01:47:57.239
<v Speaker 2>the oxygen levels.

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<v Speaker 1>My point being is that they had something figured out

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<v Speaker 1>that we don't. They built a pyramid, tore it down,

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01:48:03.880 --> 01:48:07.079
<v Speaker 1>and then rebuilt it in one pharaoh's lifetime. We couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>accomplish that with all of the resources of the world combined,

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01:48:10.600 --> 01:48:13.359
<v Speaker 1>if our existence depended on it. Let that marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, But what I'm saying is is that maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>was more so geared towards those people back.

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<v Speaker 1>Then, okay, than it is now. But I also believe

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<v Speaker 1>that the Old Testament applied to the Old Testament ways

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01:48:25.840 --> 01:48:27.760
<v Speaker 1>and they tell the whole story of the history of

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01:48:27.800 --> 01:48:30.319
<v Speaker 1>these people, or at least what is pertinent to the

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01:48:30.399 --> 01:48:33.079
<v Speaker 1>world today and why these figures were important and why

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<v Speaker 1>they are referenced. And if you follow the bloodline and

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<v Speaker 1>the genealogy, it all comes down to Mary, who gave

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<v Speaker 1>birth to the prophet that or not the prophet gave

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01:48:41.079 --> 01:48:44.079
<v Speaker 1>birth to the child that was prophesied about for thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of years leading up to this, and it's a whole Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that these historical things, which again have been

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<v Speaker 1>verified through other historical sources, not just the Bible, and

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01:48:53.920 --> 01:48:56.800
<v Speaker 1>that this book can't be refuted. And you go down

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<v Speaker 1>the whole list there, if it's been right one hundred

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01:48:59.119 --> 01:49:01.560
<v Speaker 1>out of one hundred times times about the past and

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<v Speaker 1>the present, I'll be damned if it's probably not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be right one of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>But other scripture has also had the same exact story

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01:49:10.359 --> 01:49:13.880
<v Speaker 2>of a virgin birth and you know, the the fucking

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01:49:14.199 --> 01:49:16.159
<v Speaker 2>chosen one come in and save and everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the first time it was written.

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<v Speaker 2>So to say that it's you know, it's it's bat

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<v Speaker 2>in a thousand, well, I mean, yeah, anybody can bat

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01:49:22.600 --> 01:49:24.920
<v Speaker 2>bat a thousand whenever you got already got already have

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<v Speaker 2>the fucking answers to the test.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like, you know what I'm saying, see that

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01:49:28.560 --> 01:49:30.720
<v Speaker 1>was told around the world was finally came through to

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01:49:30.800 --> 01:49:32.079
<v Speaker 1>fruition and zero ad.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, okay, person, I mean I'm not trying to go

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<v Speaker 2>there because we're because you know, we definitely have a

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<v Speaker 2>difference of opinion on these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sorry, we've kind of been just bow guarding

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation bro the way in at any point with

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<v Speaker 1>any of this bit, because it's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Double DUTs, you know, when you're jumping rope, you gotta

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01:49:49.680 --> 01:49:53.199
<v Speaker 3>jump in. Yeah, I got I got another. See what

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01:49:53.359 --> 01:49:56.600
<v Speaker 3>happened with me is seven years of Mandela effect battles

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01:49:56.840 --> 01:50:00.039
<v Speaker 3>where I would try filling the blanks quizzes and and

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01:50:00.039 --> 01:50:02.560
<v Speaker 3>they get them all wrong. But then these pastors would

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01:50:03.159 --> 01:50:05.039
<v Speaker 3>blow it off because they don't want it to be true,

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01:50:05.279 --> 01:50:07.479
<v Speaker 3>and so they would say stuff like, well, John, you

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01:50:07.560 --> 01:50:10.199
<v Speaker 3>know I don't know the whole Bible or the human

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01:50:10.239 --> 01:50:14.119
<v Speaker 3>memory can't be trusted. So the fill in the blanks approach,

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01:50:14.720 --> 01:50:18.960
<v Speaker 3>or what I call the shock and all approach, unbelievably

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01:50:19.279 --> 01:50:23.359
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't convince them all right, So because a man against

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01:50:23.880 --> 01:50:26.199
<v Speaker 3>convinced against as will as of the same opinion. Still

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01:50:26.319 --> 01:50:29.119
<v Speaker 3>so then then we started to see what I call

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01:50:29.199 --> 01:50:34.239
<v Speaker 3>biblical paradoxes. So like Leviticus twelve eight in the King James,

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01:50:35.479 --> 01:50:40.079
<v Speaker 3>God's people can sacrifice turtles to God? Is in your Bible?

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting?

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<v Speaker 3>Whoa Leviticus twelve eight? Now does that sound right to you?

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't sound right to me. Have you ever heard

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<v Speaker 3>have you ever heard the idea that God's people can

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<v Speaker 3>sacrifice female sheep.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think it would also have to do with

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01:50:54.359 --> 01:50:56.239
<v Speaker 1>the day and age you're telling me in Leviticus, whenever

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01:50:56.319 --> 01:50:57.760
<v Speaker 1>they were still on the run and.

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<v Speaker 3>Sound biblically accurate. All right, how about female angels? Have

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01:51:02.199 --> 01:51:04.359
<v Speaker 3>you ever heard about female angels in the Bible.

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01:51:04.439 --> 01:51:07.520
<v Speaker 1>There's never been one reference to a female angel. Now, granted,

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01:51:07.600 --> 01:51:10.039
<v Speaker 1>that does not mean that they don't exist. It is

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<v Speaker 1>only that none of them have made themselves known to humankind. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 1>by all evidence we have to go off of. No,

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<v Speaker 1>to our knowledge, there are no such things as female angels. Biblically, angels,

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01:51:22.560 --> 01:51:25.880
<v Speaker 1>being eternal beings, really don't have a need to procreate

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<v Speaker 1>in that regard.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Because, I mean, I've asked, I've asked a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of pastors, is there anything in the Bible that even

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01:51:33.000 --> 01:51:38.520
<v Speaker 3>remotely resembles something like female angels? And they all said no.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They do in fact say, and when they talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Sodom and Gomorah, that the angels that did come to

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<v Speaker 1>Lot in his family were very beautiful. But again they

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<v Speaker 1>were men, And that is why the Sodomites gathered outside

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<v Speaker 1>and demanded that they throw the angels out so that

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<v Speaker 1>they be known to them, i e. So that they

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<v Speaker 1>could rape them. It's a whole thing that sodomy was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, named for, known for its whole thing holding anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, the fact that they are beautiful creatures, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but still it's a true males nonetheless.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So listen to this. Zachariah five nine says

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<v Speaker 3>there was a result, I say, uh, verse say, then

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<v Speaker 3>I raised my eyes and looked, and there were two

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<v Speaker 3>women coming with the wind and their wings, for they

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<v Speaker 3>had wings like the wings of a stork, and they

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<v Speaker 3>lifted up the ephat between the heaven and the earth.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you can see whatever you want. Well, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>say the angels. All I'm saying is, when I've asked

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<v Speaker 3>twenty thirty pastors, is there any scriptures that even remotely

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01:52:44.600 --> 01:52:49.680
<v Speaker 3>resemble female angels? They all said no. And I'm sorry,

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01:52:49.840 --> 01:52:53.800
<v Speaker 3>but that message just talk about women with wings lifting

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01:52:53.880 --> 01:52:55.479
<v Speaker 3>up the ephat. If that was in there, and that

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01:52:55.520 --> 01:52:56.880
<v Speaker 3>would kind of stick in your head.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't hold on? What was that verse? One more time? Here,

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01:52:58.640 --> 01:52:59.960
<v Speaker 1>we'll look it up on this Zachariah.

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<v Speaker 3>Zachariah five verse nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Zachariah z E c h yep, Zechariah got you. Then

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01:53:11.279 --> 01:53:13.239
<v Speaker 1>I raise my eyes and look at this.

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<v Speaker 3>Five nine yeah, five five verses nine yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually it said I said to the angel who

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01:53:18.960 --> 01:53:22.119
<v Speaker 1>spoke with me, where are they taking the basket? He replied,

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01:53:22.199 --> 01:53:24.920
<v Speaker 1>to build a temple for it in the land of Shinar.

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01:53:25.279 --> 01:53:27.199
<v Speaker 1>So he's actually speaking with an angel, but he is

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01:53:27.239 --> 01:53:29.640
<v Speaker 1>seeing winged women, but he knows that that is a

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01:53:29.680 --> 01:53:33.159
<v Speaker 1>difference between what those are versus the angel he's speaking with.

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01:53:34.079 --> 01:53:37.359
<v Speaker 3>So fair enough. I mean, there's no way this man

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01:53:37.520 --> 01:53:40.319
<v Speaker 3>was ever in my Bible because people, but that's the

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01:53:40.439 --> 01:53:42.000
<v Speaker 3>kind of thing that sticks out in your head.

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01:53:42.079 --> 01:53:43.560
<v Speaker 1>But those are clearly not angels.

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01:53:44.039 --> 01:53:48.439
<v Speaker 3>I mean I phrased it. I phrased it very specifically, yep,

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01:53:48.960 --> 01:53:52.399
<v Speaker 3>to say, look, is there any passages that even remotely

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01:53:52.640 --> 01:53:55.720
<v Speaker 3>resemble anything happened to do with female angels? And they

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01:53:55.760 --> 01:53:58.760
<v Speaker 3>all said no, okay, And I even say women with wigs. No.

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01:54:00.039 --> 01:54:02.720
<v Speaker 3>So so my point is is, well, is this the

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<v Speaker 3>first time this has ever come to your attention? Yes?

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01:54:06.319 --> 01:54:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Is this did you in your experience? Pastor is there

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01:54:10.000 --> 01:54:15.199
<v Speaker 3>any references to God's people being able to sacrifice female sheep?

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01:54:15.439 --> 01:54:15.479
<v Speaker 1>No?

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01:54:16.479 --> 01:54:19.600
<v Speaker 3>Okay? So this is the first time in your entire

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01:54:19.760 --> 01:54:23.600
<v Speaker 3>Christian life that it's ever come to your attention that

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01:54:24.119 --> 01:54:30.520
<v Speaker 3>then that's Leviticus. Where is that one? Yeah, it's four

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01:54:30.920 --> 01:54:32.840
<v Speaker 3>Leviticus four, verse thirty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, let's see what you got. And if

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<v Speaker 1>he brings the lamb for a sin offering, he shall

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01:54:38.479 --> 01:54:40.479
<v Speaker 1>bring it a female without blemish.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So I asked pastors, and I was like, haven't

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01:54:43.279 --> 01:54:46.119
<v Speaker 3>you in your career done like a six weeks course

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01:54:46.239 --> 01:54:50.159
<v Speaker 3>on Old Testament types and shadows sacrifice. Yes, of course, okay,

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01:54:50.279 --> 01:54:53.279
<v Speaker 3>and so in all of that study, it never came

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01:54:53.439 --> 01:54:57.760
<v Speaker 3>to your attention that there's any passage that references offering

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01:54:57.880 --> 01:55:00.960
<v Speaker 3>female sheep. No, I've never seen that before. Well, how

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01:55:01.079 --> 01:55:01.760
<v Speaker 3>is that possible?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I've never looked into

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01:55:05.279 --> 01:55:07.680
<v Speaker 1>the crazy ins and outs of the sacrifices of the

2237
01:55:07.760 --> 01:55:10.439
<v Speaker 1>Jewish people because it doesn't apply to my life. I

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01:55:10.520 --> 01:55:14.520
<v Speaker 1>do find them fascinating. Uh, I've never heard this passage before.

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01:55:14.880 --> 01:55:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I didn't actually know that the gender of the animal

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<v Speaker 1>being sacrificed mattered. But hey, the Jews have a law

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01:55:20.960 --> 01:55:25.880
<v Speaker 1>for every single religious concept ever thought of. So the

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01:55:25.960 --> 01:55:28.279
<v Speaker 1>fact that that's a mention, I absolutely believe it, you know,

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01:55:28.479 --> 01:55:29.039
<v Speaker 1>I it.

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01:55:29.359 --> 01:55:31.479
<v Speaker 2>I could see how you could, you know, go up

2245
01:55:31.520 --> 01:55:34.560
<v Speaker 2>to a regular Christian who hasn't read the entire Bible

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01:55:34.680 --> 01:55:36.720
<v Speaker 2>right and wouldn't know certain things, but to go up

2247
01:55:36.760 --> 01:55:40.199
<v Speaker 2>to a pastor who literally went to Bible school, was

2248
01:55:40.399 --> 01:55:44.800
<v Speaker 2>learned on how to understand and memorize the entire thing,

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01:55:45.560 --> 01:55:47.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, like and especially if you've been doing it

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<v Speaker 2>for you know, twenty or thirty forty years, you know,

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01:55:51.039 --> 01:55:53.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, how many times you opening up that damn Bible.

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01:55:53.800 --> 01:55:56.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'll tell you what I would argue. You could

2253
01:55:56.479 --> 01:55:59.520
<v Speaker 1>go to China, okay, where the Bible is illegal, and

2254
01:55:59.560 --> 01:56:01.920
<v Speaker 1>when they a church gets a Bible, it is such

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01:56:02.000 --> 01:56:05.199
<v Speaker 1>contraband that they devote one person to immediately start studying

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01:56:05.239 --> 01:56:08.399
<v Speaker 1>it and committing it to memory word for Wharton, because

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01:56:08.520 --> 01:56:10.760
<v Speaker 1>that is worth a death penalty if you're caught with

2258
01:56:10.840 --> 01:56:13.439
<v Speaker 1>a Bible in certain sectors of China. And it's been

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01:56:13.520 --> 01:56:15.920
<v Speaker 1>that way for a long while. People don't want to

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01:56:15.960 --> 01:56:17.880
<v Speaker 1>believe that, except that it's like actually true.

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01:56:18.199 --> 01:56:18.439
<v Speaker 3>Heard.

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01:56:18.560 --> 01:56:22.159
<v Speaker 1>So there are guys out there who absolutely when they

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01:56:22.479 --> 01:56:26.239
<v Speaker 1>quote the King James Bible, they are quoting the King

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01:56:26.319 --> 01:56:29.119
<v Speaker 1>James Bible because up until their death and life could

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01:56:29.159 --> 01:56:29.760
<v Speaker 1>depend on it.

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01:56:30.760 --> 01:56:33.920
<v Speaker 3>I wonder what China. I've often wondered if you can

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01:56:33.960 --> 01:56:36.399
<v Speaker 3>you get Chinese food in China? Like? What is it like?

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01:56:36.760 --> 01:56:36.880
<v Speaker 5>Uh?

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01:56:37.119 --> 01:56:40.439
<v Speaker 1>Not much? Apparently they're all starving and they're killing and

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01:56:40.560 --> 01:56:45.039
<v Speaker 1>slaughtering their Weiger Muslim population in good God, it's a genocide.

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01:56:45.039 --> 01:56:46.880
<v Speaker 2>I hope my dad's actually been to Chinese said the

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01:56:46.920 --> 01:56:48.399
<v Speaker 2>Chinese food is actually better over there.

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01:56:48.520 --> 01:56:49.920
<v Speaker 1>So how bad that sounds? About?

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01:56:50.000 --> 01:56:50.159
<v Speaker 3>Right?

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01:56:50.479 --> 01:56:50.960
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let me let me see if I can

2277
01:56:52.479 --> 01:56:54.600
<v Speaker 3>stump Jacob. Let me see a couple.

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01:56:54.800 --> 01:56:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Alright, let's got you help me?

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<v Speaker 3>Dog.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know about that part with the winged women. Yeah,

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01:56:59.479 --> 01:57:00.439
<v Speaker 1>grande the dream.

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<v Speaker 2>You know more about the Bible than I do, so

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<v Speaker 2>that's why he's trying to stump You's all right?

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<v Speaker 3>So you remember when the God sent the judgment on

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<v Speaker 3>the Egypt and he sent he sent uh who, no,

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01:57:11.680 --> 01:57:13.800
<v Speaker 3>who went in to kill the firstborn?

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<v Speaker 1>That'll be the angel of death if I'm not mistaken.

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01:57:16.920 --> 01:57:19.159
<v Speaker 3>Ding ding ding ding? Correct? You went a new car?

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01:57:19.439 --> 01:57:22.119
<v Speaker 3>Tell her what he's won? Johnny O right to go

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<v Speaker 3>to Exodus twelve to twenty three? What did he say, Jonathan?

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01:57:26.479 --> 01:57:27.039
<v Speaker 3>What did he say?

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01:57:27.119 --> 01:57:28.880
<v Speaker 1>The Angel of Death, Angel of death.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, okay, so exodent.

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<v Speaker 1>Death now, grant I'm not a passed through thirty years experience,

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01:57:34.800 --> 01:57:36.920
<v Speaker 1>but I'm just saying giving those cop pounds. No no, no,

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01:57:37.039 --> 01:57:40.840
<v Speaker 1>no copouts, just full full view here Exodus what now.

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<v Speaker 3>Twelve twenty three, twelve twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>It says, for the Lord will pass through to smite

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01:57:47.279 --> 01:57:50.159
<v Speaker 2>the Egyptians, the Lord, or for the Lord will pass

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01:57:50.319 --> 01:57:53.279
<v Speaker 2>through to smite the Egyptians. And when he seeth the

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01:57:53.359 --> 01:57:58.119
<v Speaker 2>blood upon the lintel and on the two side posts,

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01:57:58.239 --> 01:58:00.760
<v Speaker 2>the Lord will pass over the door and will not

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01:58:00.920 --> 01:58:03.039
<v Speaker 2>suffer the destroyer to come into your house?

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01:58:03.159 --> 01:58:03.600
<v Speaker 3>Just might you?

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01:58:04.199 --> 01:58:06.039
<v Speaker 2>So the Lord not the Angel of Death.

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01:58:06.560 --> 01:58:10.000
<v Speaker 3>Right, And there's no translation. It's not a translation confusion

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01:58:10.199 --> 01:58:11.079
<v Speaker 3>or a modernization.

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01:58:12.399 --> 01:58:15.159
<v Speaker 2>It was one nange that was the King Games version

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<v Speaker 2>twelve twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Three, twelve twenty three. Let me see this right, Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>We always thought it was like an angel of the Lord,

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01:58:25.119 --> 01:58:26.880
<v Speaker 1>so to speak, the angels.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the time stream that you were in, bro,

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01:58:29.279 --> 01:58:32.640
<v Speaker 3>we were all in the same time. Do this for me, Jonathan,

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01:58:32.760 --> 01:58:36.079
<v Speaker 3>Go to Amazon and put it look up a book

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01:58:36.279 --> 01:58:39.720
<v Speaker 3>called My People Perish for lack of Knowledge, and then

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01:58:39.760 --> 01:58:43.239
<v Speaker 3>put up on the screen. All right, and now Joseah

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01:58:43.319 --> 01:58:47.319
<v Speaker 3>four to six, My people blank for lack of knowledge.

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01:58:47.800 --> 01:58:50.399
<v Speaker 3>Most people will tell you my people perish for lack

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01:58:50.399 --> 01:58:54.119
<v Speaker 3>of knowledge, but it's never said that in any translation.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me share the screenway quick, h What was the book?

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01:58:59.439 --> 01:59:03.000
<v Speaker 3>All right? So look at what he found on Amazon.

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01:59:03.159 --> 01:59:06.479
<v Speaker 3>There's actually two or three of them. Yeah, but at

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01:59:06.520 --> 01:59:10.560
<v Speaker 3>the middle one, my people perish for lack of knowledge.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you gotta understand this. I wrote a book, Okay.

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01:59:14.800 --> 01:59:18.880
<v Speaker 3>I paid this girl two thousand dollars to edit my book.

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01:59:20.119 --> 01:59:22.840
<v Speaker 3>I read the thing at least ten times, and I

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01:59:23.000 --> 01:59:26.399
<v Speaker 3>listened to it about seven times to make sure that

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01:59:26.520 --> 01:59:30.560
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't a grammatical mess. You certainly aren't going to

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01:59:30.640 --> 01:59:32.479
<v Speaker 3>get the title of the book wrong.

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01:59:33.239 --> 01:59:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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01:59:33.680 --> 01:59:36.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it says my people perish for lack of knowledge

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01:59:36.159 --> 01:59:38.760
<v Speaker 2>is the name of the book. It says what secrets can,

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01:59:39.199 --> 01:59:43.600
<v Speaker 2>What secrets can quantum mechanics reveal to create positive results

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01:59:43.640 --> 01:59:46.880
<v Speaker 2>in every area of a person's life, from health, to finances, relationships,

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01:59:46.880 --> 01:59:47.199
<v Speaker 2>and more.

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01:59:47.800 --> 01:59:50.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so does my people paris for lack of knowledge?

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01:59:50.800 --> 01:59:51.479
<v Speaker 3>Doesn't exist?

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01:59:52.039 --> 01:59:52.359
<v Speaker 4>Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Once again, exodus, brother, you are correct. Nowhere in that

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01:59:56.439 --> 01:59:58.760
<v Speaker 1>entire passages to say an angel of the Lord or

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01:59:58.840 --> 02:00:01.760
<v Speaker 1>a servant of the Lord. It says the Lord himself

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02:00:01.960 --> 02:00:05.319
<v Speaker 1>straight up and mentions it multiple times capital letters. The

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02:00:05.439 --> 02:00:09.479
<v Speaker 1>Lord smote at midnight that night, so the promoting just

2345
02:00:09.760 --> 02:00:12.479
<v Speaker 1>the Lord at midnight that night smote the firstborn of

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02:00:12.880 --> 02:00:15.520
<v Speaker 1>of the houses? What is that on the lintel? What's

2347
02:00:15.560 --> 02:00:18.199
<v Speaker 1>going on here, Jacob? That would be the seventh curse

2348
02:00:18.760 --> 02:00:22.600
<v Speaker 1>that was prophesied to tell the Pharaoh. Look, we're leaving

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02:00:22.640 --> 02:00:24.520
<v Speaker 1>whether you like it or not, and God's letting you

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02:00:24.600 --> 02:00:28.119
<v Speaker 1>know it. Okay, but like work, This doesn't work. The

2351
02:00:28.159 --> 02:00:30.760
<v Speaker 1>blood didn't work, The locust didn't work. All right, fine,

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02:00:30.800 --> 02:00:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the first born are all now they're gone.

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<v Speaker 2>So initially, whenever I asked you months ago about the

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02:00:36.800 --> 02:00:39.159
<v Speaker 2>Mandela effect, you claimed that it could have been the government,

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02:00:39.279 --> 02:00:41.079
<v Speaker 2>it could have been the elite, that these people were

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02:00:41.199 --> 02:00:44.560
<v Speaker 2>changing it. Do you still hold true to that version

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02:00:44.840 --> 02:00:47.159
<v Speaker 2>of your thought of the Mandela effect or is there

2358
02:00:47.279 --> 02:00:51.680
<v Speaker 2>something actually supernatural happening. Maybe we're shifting timelines, maybe we're

2359
02:00:51.680 --> 02:00:54.359
<v Speaker 2>going to different dimensions. Maybe people are having some kind

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02:00:54.399 --> 02:00:56.479
<v Speaker 2>of black magic that is causing the words and these

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02:00:56.600 --> 02:00:57.840
<v Speaker 2>very books to be rewritten.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I'm not discrediting any of it. I also give

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02:01:00.840 --> 02:01:03.520
<v Speaker 1>myself room for error because I have a horrible memory,

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02:01:03.680 --> 02:01:05.039
<v Speaker 1>so like, and I'm not trying to be a cop

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02:01:05.119 --> 02:01:07.720
<v Speaker 1>out on that, but let's be honest. I know myself

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02:01:08.039 --> 02:01:10.720
<v Speaker 1>and the fact that I cannot perfectly quote something doesn't

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02:01:10.760 --> 02:01:14.760
<v Speaker 1>shock me want iota, but that to say, there is

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<v Speaker 1>obviously some fuckery of foot no matter what way.

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<v Speaker 2>You slice it, right, but you are definitely somebody who

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02:01:20.800 --> 02:01:25.479
<v Speaker 2>prides yourself in your religious views. You definitely are somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who can quote from the Bible quite often.

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<v Speaker 1>Or at least I try to.

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02:01:29.319 --> 02:01:29.520
<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot more about the Bible than at least most

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02:01:34.000 --> 02:01:37.319
<v Speaker 2>people that I know. Okay, fair, And for him to

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02:01:37.439 --> 02:01:40.359
<v Speaker 2>come out and name all these different things, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if that's just a miss memory, like you're jotting

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02:01:43.039 --> 02:01:45.880
<v Speaker 2>it to bad memory because you were quoting it just

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<v Speaker 2>like everybody else was.

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<v Speaker 1>To his point about the Bible changing and this, I

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02:01:50.960 --> 02:01:53.439
<v Speaker 1>can see he and I come from very different perspectives,

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02:01:53.479 --> 02:01:55.960
<v Speaker 1>so I understand why we have different viewpoints on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to do a lot more digging on

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02:01:58.840 --> 02:02:00.880
<v Speaker 1>this as far as changing from the Bible way after

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02:02:00.920 --> 02:02:03.159
<v Speaker 1>this episode is done and over with, because this is

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02:02:03.399 --> 02:02:06.720
<v Speaker 1>fascinating as hell. And I honestly haven't heard it being

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02:02:06.840 --> 02:02:10.319
<v Speaker 1>looked at from the negative. I've only seen it like

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02:02:10.920 --> 02:02:13.600
<v Speaker 1>from a standpoint of faith, because I know the power

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02:02:13.680 --> 02:02:16.399
<v Speaker 1>of my God. I know that if the Bible and

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02:02:16.439 --> 02:02:19.520
<v Speaker 1>the Word has been changing, the true message I have

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02:02:19.720 --> 02:02:22.680
<v Speaker 1>faith has made it through because the God that I

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02:02:22.800 --> 02:02:25.680
<v Speaker 1>worship said that it would always make it through until

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<v Speaker 1>the final days. Now again, interpretive book about the final

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02:02:30.199 --> 02:02:32.039
<v Speaker 1>days and what that will look like. Does it mean

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02:02:32.119 --> 02:02:34.279
<v Speaker 1>that no church has it one hundred percent right? So

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02:02:34.359 --> 02:02:37.880
<v Speaker 1>if you claim any denomination, including non denominational, then you

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02:02:38.039 --> 02:02:41.319
<v Speaker 1>actually have it wrong. Does it mean that no word

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02:02:41.520 --> 02:02:43.439
<v Speaker 1>in any Bible that we'll be able to read will

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<v Speaker 1>be correct because it will all have been changed so

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02:02:46.560 --> 02:02:50.359
<v Speaker 1>much we can't even find an actual true King James version. Ever, Again,

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02:02:51.079 --> 02:02:53.960
<v Speaker 1>there's so many ways to interpret that. I have always

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02:02:53.960 --> 02:02:56.000
<v Speaker 1>looked at it from the side of positive. As much

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02:02:56.000 --> 02:02:58.239
<v Speaker 1>as I am a pessimist and as much as I'm

2404
02:02:58.239 --> 02:03:01.000
<v Speaker 1>the one that blackpills way more than you, and I

2405
02:03:01.119 --> 02:03:03.279
<v Speaker 1>always look at the darker side of things, you know,

2406
02:03:03.560 --> 02:03:07.279
<v Speaker 1>as the residents stick in the mud. To this particular point,

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02:03:07.520 --> 02:03:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I have faith that my God is still in control

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02:03:10.159 --> 02:03:12.439
<v Speaker 1>and that His word is still getting through in the

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02:03:12.479 --> 02:03:15.880
<v Speaker 1>ways that it matters. Now, I understand why somebody would

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02:03:15.880 --> 02:03:16.399
<v Speaker 1>disagree with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, but if you're basing your belief on the

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02:03:20.800 --> 02:03:23.800
<v Speaker 3>teachings of the scripture, all I'm saying is what the

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02:03:23.840 --> 02:03:28.840
<v Speaker 3>scripture taught us is that Jesus is the same yesterday, today, forever. Yes,

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02:03:29.000 --> 02:03:33.640
<v Speaker 3>the promises to preserve our promises to preserve the word

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02:03:34.159 --> 02:03:38.960
<v Speaker 3>of God, which is the utterance and the will and

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02:03:39.039 --> 02:03:41.720
<v Speaker 3>the purposes and plans of God that were given to

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02:03:41.800 --> 02:03:45.720
<v Speaker 3>the original authors in the original autographs. Yeah, the promise

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02:03:45.880 --> 02:03:48.560
<v Speaker 3>to preserve the scriptures is not in the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we also have the Dead Sea Scrolls, which we

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02:03:51.960 --> 02:03:54.359
<v Speaker 1>know that we can compare in contrast agance to find

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02:03:54.399 --> 02:03:56.239
<v Speaker 1>it to be a corrective translation.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there was a lot of stuff in the Dead

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02:03:58.840 --> 02:04:00.479
<v Speaker 2>Sea Scrolls that didn't make it the Bible.

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02:04:00.520 --> 02:04:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Also, that's very true. That's very true.

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02:04:02.720 --> 02:04:05.359
<v Speaker 3>But well, no, no, no, the King j no, because

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02:04:05.399 --> 02:04:08.720
<v Speaker 3>the Dead Sea Scrolls say wolf. We know that they

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02:04:08.800 --> 02:04:12.199
<v Speaker 3>looked at Isaiah two six and the Dead Sea Scrolls. Right,

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02:04:12.199 --> 02:04:14.600
<v Speaker 3>Because you have to understand when there's a mandela effect,

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02:04:15.039 --> 02:04:19.560
<v Speaker 3>when there's a consensus that something has changed, it's changed

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02:04:19.840 --> 02:04:22.359
<v Speaker 3>all the way back to the beginning, because it's all

2431
02:04:22.720 --> 02:04:26.439
<v Speaker 3>all of history lines up with this new change changed

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02:04:26.479 --> 02:04:27.079
<v Speaker 3>ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>That just proved the point though, hold on, you're saying

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02:04:29.560 --> 02:04:32.479
<v Speaker 1>that the Dead Sea scroll said Wolf correct, correct, and

2435
02:04:32.560 --> 02:04:35.760
<v Speaker 1>the King James Bible actually says Wolf correct correct. Now,

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02:04:35.920 --> 02:04:39.359
<v Speaker 1>all these pastors are are misremembering. Even though once again

2437
02:04:39.399 --> 02:04:42.079
<v Speaker 1>we can compare to the original text to the King

2438
02:04:42.199 --> 02:04:44.560
<v Speaker 1>James version, we know that it's a correct one to

2439
02:04:44.640 --> 02:04:47.159
<v Speaker 1>one comparison. The pastors are the ones that are misremembering

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02:04:47.279 --> 02:04:50.319
<v Speaker 1>and or not truly as well versed as they claim

2441
02:04:50.359 --> 02:04:52.319
<v Speaker 1>to be. Well, the point of what he's trying to

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02:04:52.399 --> 02:04:53.640
<v Speaker 1>say is right.

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02:04:53.760 --> 02:04:55.920
<v Speaker 2>What he's trying to say is that you know that

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02:04:56.399 --> 02:04:59.199
<v Speaker 2>because of the Mandela effect, maybe because of Cirn, maybe

2445
02:04:59.199 --> 02:05:01.840
<v Speaker 2>because there's a some kind of mystical shit that's going

2446
02:05:01.880 --> 02:05:05.640
<v Speaker 2>on that we can't really interpret or understand that the

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02:05:06.119 --> 02:05:08.720
<v Speaker 2>reason why it would be changed in the King James

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02:05:08.800 --> 02:05:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Bible and the and the Dead Sea Scrolls is because

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02:05:12.600 --> 02:05:14.159
<v Speaker 2>why wouldn't they change all of it?

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02:05:14.439 --> 02:05:17.079
<v Speaker 1>It would just change timeline. It's been changed all the

2451
02:05:17.119 --> 02:05:18.439
<v Speaker 1>way through, is what he's possible?

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02:05:18.720 --> 02:05:22.560
<v Speaker 3>Yes, no, yes, okay, yeah, baby, it's more exotic than

2453
02:05:22.640 --> 02:05:26.239
<v Speaker 3>we first believe. In other words, it didn't change ten

2454
02:05:26.359 --> 02:05:29.439
<v Speaker 3>years ago, and before ten years ago it was a

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02:05:29.520 --> 02:05:33.119
<v Speaker 3>line it's always or yeah, it's always been wolf.

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02:05:33.319 --> 02:05:36.560
<v Speaker 1>So now so you're saying, there's no way across the

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02:05:36.640 --> 02:05:40.439
<v Speaker 1>board this. Many people are misremembering something that once again

2458
02:05:40.520 --> 02:05:43.560
<v Speaker 1>we can compare to the oldest source, and they're wrong,

2459
02:05:44.279 --> 02:05:47.239
<v Speaker 1>the same way that a pilot with thirty years experience

2460
02:05:47.279 --> 02:05:49.600
<v Speaker 1>couldn't take this type of a test and be wrong.

2461
02:05:49.840 --> 02:05:51.000
<v Speaker 1>That's an impossibility.

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02:05:51.399 --> 02:05:56.479
<v Speaker 3>It's it defies the scientific discipline of probabilities. Yes, it's

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02:05:56.720 --> 02:06:00.520
<v Speaker 3>it's more irrational to suggest that we're just missing remembering

2464
02:06:01.520 --> 02:06:03.800
<v Speaker 3>then to suggest that an end time sign of wonder

2465
02:06:03.920 --> 02:06:07.159
<v Speaker 3>is happening, which was foretold that. Right, we actually have

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02:06:07.399 --> 02:06:09.600
<v Speaker 3>seven different types of proof. Let me give you another one.

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02:06:09.720 --> 02:06:12.439
<v Speaker 3>Let's go, it's really this one is cool, all right?

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02:06:12.560 --> 02:06:17.159
<v Speaker 3>So you remember the deal where Jesus told Peter about

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02:06:17.239 --> 02:06:20.640
<v Speaker 3>the cock crawling and you're gonna deny me, hold on,

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02:06:20.840 --> 02:06:23.000
<v Speaker 3>hold on, go ahead and give it to me from memory.

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02:06:23.079 --> 02:06:25.079
<v Speaker 3>What do you remember happened?

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02:06:25.880 --> 02:06:29.560
<v Speaker 1>He they were going around last supper, all these boys

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02:06:29.600 --> 02:06:32.000
<v Speaker 1>are professing how much they love him, and as he

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02:06:32.119 --> 02:06:33.840
<v Speaker 1>was talking about how one of them was about to

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02:06:33.920 --> 02:06:36.199
<v Speaker 1>deceive him. They're like, what in no way, not me, dude,

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02:06:36.279 --> 02:06:40.079
<v Speaker 1>not me, And He's like, you, bro, Bro, before the

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02:06:40.239 --> 02:06:43.439
<v Speaker 1>rooster crows tomorrow morning, you will deny that you even

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02:06:43.560 --> 02:06:47.279
<v Speaker 1>know me. Three times? There you go, if I remember,

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02:06:47.760 --> 02:06:48.560
<v Speaker 1>if I remember.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, Peter, all right, hold on, you got it right, Peter.

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02:06:53.439 --> 02:06:56.399
<v Speaker 3>And this is also Peter who three times? And then

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02:06:56.479 --> 02:06:58.199
<v Speaker 3>the cockle crow right right?

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02:06:58.319 --> 02:07:00.439
<v Speaker 1>And if I'm not mistaken, it was rooster. I don't

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02:07:00.439 --> 02:07:01.760
<v Speaker 1>know if King James says cock.

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02:07:02.199 --> 02:07:05.760
<v Speaker 3>Cock okay, but but I'm just kidding the secrets, So deny, deny,

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02:07:05.880 --> 02:07:08.720
<v Speaker 3>deny cock that's what you remember, right, yeah?

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02:07:08.800 --> 02:07:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yea, yeah, me too. And also the whole world does.

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02:07:12.359 --> 02:07:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I've seen multiple movies of Jesus's life where that is,

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02:07:16.600 --> 02:07:18.680
<v Speaker 1>in fact what has been portrayed as well.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, buckle your seat belt, okay, open up to

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02:07:22.520 --> 02:07:27.479
<v Speaker 3>Mark chapter fourteen, verse thirty. All right, alright, alright, cackle

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02:07:27.640 --> 02:07:29.199
<v Speaker 3>your seat belt please.

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02:07:29.039 --> 02:07:30.479
<v Speaker 1>You're going to Mark chapter.

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02:07:30.680 --> 02:07:36.279
<v Speaker 3>Say that again, sir, Mark Chapter fourteen, verse thirty. Jonathan's

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02:07:36.359 --> 02:07:37.640
<v Speaker 3>quick on the draw there, Bro.

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02:07:37.640 --> 02:07:39.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you man, but oh I might be quicker

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02:07:39.399 --> 02:07:42.159
<v Speaker 1>on this one. Boom got it up. And Jesus said

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02:07:42.239 --> 02:07:45.319
<v Speaker 1>unto him. Verily, I say, unto the that this day,

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02:07:45.439 --> 02:07:49.239
<v Speaker 1>even in this night, before the cock crow twice, thou

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02:07:49.359 --> 02:07:54.680
<v Speaker 1>shalt deny me thrice. Wow. So it wasn't the cock

2501
02:07:54.760 --> 02:07:57.680
<v Speaker 1>crowing three times, you'll deny me three times? It was

2502
02:07:57.800 --> 02:08:05.520
<v Speaker 1>two and three. Damn no way. But I'm gonna be

2503
02:08:05.560 --> 02:08:07.319
<v Speaker 1>honest with you. I always thought it was before the

2504
02:08:07.399 --> 02:08:09.800
<v Speaker 1>rooster crows, you will deny me three times. I don't

2505
02:08:10.079 --> 02:08:12.800
<v Speaker 1>really remember anything about the number of time the rooster crows,

2506
02:08:13.439 --> 02:08:16.239
<v Speaker 1>but for sure that before the rooster crows, Yes, you did.

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02:08:16.359 --> 02:08:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Don't do that.

2508
02:08:18.640 --> 02:08:22.319
<v Speaker 1>You said three. For the crows tomorrow morning, you will

2509
02:08:22.359 --> 02:08:23.760
<v Speaker 1>deny me three times.

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02:08:23.640 --> 02:08:25.439
<v Speaker 3>Right, bro, that's what normies do.

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02:08:27.560 --> 02:08:31.319
<v Speaker 1>No, No, Now what I said, I'm pretty sure you

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02:08:31.439 --> 02:08:33.439
<v Speaker 1>said the game. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Did

2513
02:08:33.520 --> 02:08:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I not just say that before the rooster crows tomorrow morning,

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02:08:37.000 --> 02:08:39.000
<v Speaker 1>you will deny that you even know me three times.

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02:08:39.199 --> 02:08:41.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm convinced that Jacob is part of the matrix and

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02:08:42.000 --> 02:08:43.479
<v Speaker 2>in order to fool us all.

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02:08:43.840 --> 02:08:46.840
<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna listen back to this episode I'm watching

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02:08:46.920 --> 02:08:54.399
<v Speaker 1>for this time, before the rooster crows tomorrow morning, den

2519
02:08:54.600 --> 02:08:57.000
<v Speaker 1>me three times? He got he got the receipt on yours.

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02:08:57.560 --> 02:08:58.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm down.

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02:08:58.560 --> 02:08:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I repeated it.

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02:08:59.880 --> 02:09:01.960
<v Speaker 3>I said, okay, let me make sure I got you right.

2523
02:09:02.079 --> 02:09:06.199
<v Speaker 3>You said Peter, I said, I said, Peter denied him

2524
02:09:06.239 --> 02:09:08.439
<v Speaker 3>three times, and then the cock crowed after that? Is

2525
02:09:08.479 --> 02:09:10.600
<v Speaker 3>that what you said? And then I asked Jonathan, is.

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02:09:10.600 --> 02:09:11.239
<v Speaker 1>That what he said?

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02:09:11.439 --> 02:09:15.079
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yep, right, all this is is a memory quiz.

2528
02:09:15.239 --> 02:09:16.199
<v Speaker 3>That's all this is.

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02:09:16.399 --> 02:09:19.199
<v Speaker 1>Wait, isn't that what just got said?

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02:09:19.239 --> 02:09:22.159
<v Speaker 2>No, it crows twice and then then got denied on

2531
02:09:22.239 --> 02:09:25.720
<v Speaker 2>the third time. You said that the cock the that

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02:09:25.840 --> 02:09:27.039
<v Speaker 2>it crowed three times.

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02:09:28.479 --> 02:09:31.399
<v Speaker 3>No, no, Peter denies him three times and then the

2534
02:09:31.479 --> 02:09:34.039
<v Speaker 3>cock crows. Yeah, that's what we all remember, ya what

2535
02:09:34.119 --> 02:09:36.840
<v Speaker 3>this is saying? So how many times does the cock

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02:09:36.880 --> 02:09:40.720
<v Speaker 3>crow only once? In this one? The cock crows twice?

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02:09:41.600 --> 02:09:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, no, no, no, that wasn't the part that

2538
02:09:43.600 --> 02:09:46.079
<v Speaker 1>I thought was a thing. Hold on him denying him

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02:09:46.119 --> 02:09:49.119
<v Speaker 1>three times and then the rooster crowing. The number of

2540
02:09:49.199 --> 02:09:51.600
<v Speaker 1>times the rooster crowed never like even occurred to me. No, No,

2541
02:09:51.680 --> 02:09:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that he would deny and then the rooster crow,

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02:09:53.680 --> 02:09:56.000
<v Speaker 1>for sure, the number of times are crowed. I didn't

2543
02:09:56.000 --> 02:09:58.000
<v Speaker 1>even know that was a thing, Gonna be honest.

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02:09:58.199 --> 02:10:01.399
<v Speaker 3>Well, now now you've got this, which is totally foreign.

2545
02:10:01.840 --> 02:10:04.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean, come on, man, there's no way he crowed twice.

2546
02:10:04.560 --> 02:10:07.079
<v Speaker 1>That's wild. So you're telling me that he had already

2547
02:10:07.119 --> 02:10:10.159
<v Speaker 1>done it twice, heard the rooster, had an opportunity to

2548
02:10:10.359 --> 02:10:12.560
<v Speaker 1>not make that happen, and then did it again. But

2549
02:10:12.680 --> 02:10:15.000
<v Speaker 1>that's also because he was in the town. His Lord

2550
02:10:15.079 --> 02:10:17.640
<v Speaker 1>and Savior just got arrested, and he was scared for

2551
02:10:17.720 --> 02:10:19.399
<v Speaker 1>his life, so he was willing to say anything to

2552
02:10:19.439 --> 02:10:21.760
<v Speaker 1>get the heat off of him. So it's again a

2553
02:10:21.840 --> 02:10:23.439
<v Speaker 1>person hit him up. He was like, wait, I know you.

2554
02:10:23.600 --> 02:10:25.199
<v Speaker 1>I saw him. You with him. He's like, no, I

2555
02:10:25.239 --> 02:10:29.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know him. Was like, ah shit, yeah, I'll be damn.

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02:10:29.760 --> 02:10:31.760
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what, Jacob. Sometimes you are a fucking

2557
02:10:31.840 --> 02:10:34.920
<v Speaker 2>mister Smith to me. Dude, there are certain times I

2558
02:10:35.000 --> 02:10:38.399
<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm Medio and you're just mister Smith telling

2559
02:10:38.439 --> 02:10:41.359
<v Speaker 2>me there's matrix is perfect, the world is just fine.

2560
02:10:42.479 --> 02:10:42.520
<v Speaker 3>What.

2561
02:10:43.680 --> 02:10:46.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't get that vibe off of any of this conversation.

2562
02:10:46.560 --> 02:10:49.600
<v Speaker 1>But okay, no, I'm just fucking with you. Maybe the

2563
02:10:49.680 --> 02:10:50.680
<v Speaker 1>glasses does it shit.

2564
02:10:51.239 --> 02:10:53.479
<v Speaker 3>Maybe all right, let's go to Isaiah. Let's go first,

2565
02:10:53.479 --> 02:10:55.880
<v Speaker 3>all right, So these are biblical paradoxes. Let's go to

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02:10:55.960 --> 02:11:02.079
<v Speaker 3>Isaiah thirty six twelve. Isaiah is a prophetic book. Correct? Well,

2567
02:11:02.199 --> 02:11:02.840
<v Speaker 3>what does that mean?

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02:11:03.199 --> 02:11:06.039
<v Speaker 1>That means that it's certain passages of it? Correct me

2569
02:11:06.079 --> 02:11:07.920
<v Speaker 1>if I'm wrong? Are not literal. They're like in a

2570
02:11:08.000 --> 02:11:09.880
<v Speaker 1>dream state, or given to him through an angel or

2571
02:11:09.920 --> 02:11:12.520
<v Speaker 1>something along these lines. I could be wrong. Am I

2572
02:11:12.560 --> 02:11:17.319
<v Speaker 1>spelling Isaiah wrong? How do you spell that? H Isaiah?

2573
02:11:17.359 --> 02:11:17.680
<v Speaker 5>What now?

2574
02:11:18.439 --> 02:11:21.319
<v Speaker 3>Isaiah thirty six twelve.

2575
02:11:21.479 --> 02:11:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Thirty six twelve, Let's see here, but reb chike, excuse

2576
02:11:28.840 --> 02:11:32.720
<v Speaker 1>me if I mispronounced that to anybody of that genome?

2577
02:11:33.359 --> 02:11:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Hath my master sent me to thy master and to

2578
02:11:36.760 --> 02:11:39.880
<v Speaker 1>thee to speak these words? Hath He not sent me

2579
02:11:40.039 --> 02:11:43.279
<v Speaker 1>to the men that sit upon the wall, that they

2580
02:11:43.359 --> 02:11:45.720
<v Speaker 1>may eat their own dungue and drink their own piss

2581
02:11:45.840 --> 02:11:47.000
<v Speaker 1>with you? Damn?

2582
02:11:48.640 --> 02:11:50.199
<v Speaker 3>Okay? How long am I reading the wrong way?

2583
02:11:50.800 --> 02:11:51.039
<v Speaker 1>Huh?

2584
02:11:52.680 --> 02:11:54.399
<v Speaker 3>I think that kind of hits me the wrong way.

2585
02:11:54.479 --> 02:11:54.920
<v Speaker 3>How about you?

2586
02:11:55.239 --> 02:11:56.479
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean it hits you the wrong way?

2587
02:11:57.279 --> 02:11:59.359
<v Speaker 3>You got people drinking their own piss and eating their

2588
02:11:59.399 --> 02:12:01.840
<v Speaker 3>own dungue? Bible? If that was in there? I studied

2589
02:12:01.840 --> 02:12:06.079
<v Speaker 3>the Bible when I was in full time history without

2590
02:12:06.159 --> 02:12:10.199
<v Speaker 3>exaggeration at least three to four hours a day for

2591
02:12:10.359 --> 02:12:16.279
<v Speaker 3>ten years, and then intensely for another twenty years. So

2592
02:12:16.399 --> 02:12:20.800
<v Speaker 3>I've been studying the Bible for thirty years intensely, and

2593
02:12:20.880 --> 02:12:25.159
<v Speaker 3>then another ten years not intensely. Okay, So if the

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02:12:25.319 --> 02:12:31.359
<v Speaker 3>Bible anywhere talked about people drinking their own piss and

2595
02:12:31.560 --> 02:12:33.319
<v Speaker 3>eating their own dung, I would have known it.

2596
02:12:33.520 --> 02:12:35.680
<v Speaker 1>But look at the context of this. He's talking about

2597
02:12:35.760 --> 02:12:38.399
<v Speaker 1>how they gave the world civilization, telling.

2598
02:12:38.239 --> 02:12:41.520
<v Speaker 3>You if people were drinking piss and eating their own dung,

2599
02:12:41.720 --> 02:12:43.760
<v Speaker 3>I would have known it was in there because I've

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02:12:43.800 --> 02:12:45.800
<v Speaker 3>read through the thing I don't know how many times,

2601
02:12:46.119 --> 02:12:48.520
<v Speaker 3>and what I'm saying is, this is the first time

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02:12:49.159 --> 02:12:51.720
<v Speaker 3>this has ever come to my attention, and I could

2603
02:12:51.800 --> 02:12:55.000
<v Speaker 3>do this with twenty pastors. Hey, pastor, does your Bible

2604
02:12:55.079 --> 02:12:57.960
<v Speaker 3>talk about anybody ever drinking their own piss and eating

2605
02:12:57.960 --> 02:13:01.760
<v Speaker 3>their own dung? Of course not. Yeah, it's in there,

2606
02:13:02.680 --> 02:13:05.199
<v Speaker 3>So it's just a memory thing. The whole what I

2607
02:13:05.319 --> 02:13:09.439
<v Speaker 3>call commentary man. Commentary man comes to the rescue. He

2608
02:13:09.560 --> 02:13:12.000
<v Speaker 3>puts on his cake and he's going to explain why

2609
02:13:12.079 --> 02:13:15.920
<v Speaker 3>it's in there. I don't care, Okay, it doesn't matter

2610
02:13:16.199 --> 02:13:18.520
<v Speaker 3>why it's in there. It's boring to me.

2611
02:13:18.680 --> 02:13:21.199
<v Speaker 1>So whenever it talks about rape, or it talks about

2612
02:13:21.319 --> 02:13:23.760
<v Speaker 1>murdering children, it talks about any of these other horrible,

2613
02:13:23.840 --> 02:13:26.479
<v Speaker 1>horrible things, where's the outrage the fact that drinking piss,

2614
02:13:26.560 --> 02:13:29.680
<v Speaker 1>isn't it That's where you draw the line. That's terrible. Well, yeah,

2615
02:13:29.680 --> 02:13:31.239
<v Speaker 1>but you failure.

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02:13:31.640 --> 02:13:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Now, this one is both wildly unfamiliar and a

2617
02:13:36.039 --> 02:13:37.039
<v Speaker 3>biblical paradox.

2618
02:13:37.720 --> 02:13:40.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's fair. I've never heard of this passage before,

2619
02:13:40.119 --> 02:13:41.920
<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you. But again, I'm not a

2620
02:13:42.079 --> 02:13:46.239
<v Speaker 1>doctoral of the Book of Isaiah, but I mean, wow,

2621
02:13:47.239 --> 02:13:49.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie eating their own tongue and drinking

2622
02:13:49.279 --> 02:13:51.159
<v Speaker 1>their own piss. That's kind of a new one for me.

2623
02:13:51.840 --> 02:13:55.840
<v Speaker 1>There's no way to slice down. Dude, what dude savages?

2624
02:13:56.000 --> 02:13:58.399
<v Speaker 3>That's savagery, gonna I'm gonna turn you on ato another

2625
02:13:58.439 --> 02:14:01.439
<v Speaker 3>one Isaiah's sixty verse sixteen. Roll over into that.

2626
02:14:01.520 --> 02:14:06.239
<v Speaker 1>One, sixty verse sixteen. Let's sixty verse sixteen of the

2627
02:14:06.359 --> 02:14:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Cult of Conspiracy. If you're on your Bible app at home,

2628
02:14:08.960 --> 02:14:11.279
<v Speaker 1>please do so. Go to the King James version or

2629
02:14:11.359 --> 02:14:13.880
<v Speaker 1>whatever one is up new international. Let's just compare contrast

2630
02:14:13.960 --> 02:14:16.560
<v Speaker 1>notes in the comments below, and whatever y'all, let's hit

2631
02:14:16.680 --> 02:14:18.359
<v Speaker 1>up that algorithmic matrix.

2632
02:14:18.479 --> 02:14:20.119
<v Speaker 2>You really won't have to if you come to Patreon

2633
02:14:20.239 --> 02:14:21.600
<v Speaker 2>rock fin because we're pulling it up right here.

2634
02:14:21.680 --> 02:14:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Baby.

2635
02:14:22.760 --> 02:14:25.840
<v Speaker 1>All right, So Isaiah sixty, which you said sixteen sixteen,

2636
02:14:25.960 --> 02:14:26.479
<v Speaker 1>all right.

2637
02:14:26.359 --> 02:14:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Here we go.

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02:14:26.880 --> 02:14:30.399
<v Speaker 1>Thou shalt also suck the milk of the gentiles, and

2639
02:14:30.479 --> 02:14:33.319
<v Speaker 1>thou shalt suck the breast of kings, And thou shalt

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02:14:33.479 --> 02:14:36.640
<v Speaker 1>know that I the Lord and thy Savior and thy redeemer,

2641
02:14:37.000 --> 02:14:40.880
<v Speaker 1>the Mighty one of Jacob. For brass, I will bring gold,

2642
02:14:41.039 --> 02:14:43.479
<v Speaker 1>and for iron, I will bring silver, and for wood brass,

2643
02:14:43.720 --> 02:14:47.439
<v Speaker 1>and for stones, iron. I will also make thy officers peace.

2644
02:14:47.560 --> 02:14:51.239
<v Speaker 1>And Thine exactor is righteous. Violence shall be, or violence

2645
02:14:51.279 --> 02:14:54.680
<v Speaker 1>shall no more be heard in thy wasting, nor destruction

2646
02:14:54.800 --> 02:14:58.439
<v Speaker 1>within thy borders. But thou shalt call thy walls salvation

2647
02:14:59.000 --> 02:15:00.680
<v Speaker 1>and thy gates pray broll.

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02:15:00.760 --> 02:15:04.239
<v Speaker 3>You already went past it. It's it's verse sixteen.

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02:15:04.760 --> 02:15:06.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I understand, but I'm just giving a

2650
02:15:06.319 --> 02:15:07.880
<v Speaker 1>little you know, we're talking about.

2651
02:15:07.720 --> 02:15:12.079
<v Speaker 3>All this context. Well, you got man breastfeeding, you got

2652
02:15:12.159 --> 02:15:16.399
<v Speaker 3>people sucking the breast of kings. That's outrageous. Okay, it's

2653
02:15:16.840 --> 02:15:20.640
<v Speaker 3>a show stopper, and then in numbers eleven twelve.

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02:15:22.520 --> 02:15:25.600
<v Speaker 1>It's talking about what I mean, do you think they're

2655
02:15:25.640 --> 02:15:27.840
<v Speaker 1>talking about people physically sucking on a man's tit?

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02:15:27.920 --> 02:15:31.800
<v Speaker 3>Bruh, did Well, that's what it says. Did I conceive

2657
02:15:31.920 --> 02:15:35.520
<v Speaker 3>all this people? This is numbers eleven twelve? Did I

2658
02:15:35.720 --> 02:15:38.720
<v Speaker 3>beget them that they should say to me, carry them

2659
02:15:38.880 --> 02:15:42.560
<v Speaker 3>in your bosom as a guardian carries a nursing child.

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02:15:43.640 --> 02:15:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, this is the wrong version, all right, So have

2661
02:15:45.880 --> 02:15:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I conceived all this people? Have I begotten them that

2662
02:15:49.760 --> 02:15:53.319
<v Speaker 1>thou shalt shouldest say unto me? Carry them into thy

2663
02:15:53.399 --> 02:15:57.319
<v Speaker 1>bosom as a nursing father beareth a sucking child onto

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02:15:57.399 --> 02:16:00.760
<v Speaker 1>the land which they're swearest, unt to their fathers.

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02:16:00.920 --> 02:16:04.720
<v Speaker 2>A nursing father, sucking child? What are we talking about?

2666
02:16:04.720 --> 02:16:05.880
<v Speaker 1>He's asking questions.

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02:16:06.359 --> 02:16:10.119
<v Speaker 3>Thank you Jonathan for being like like rational. Okay, how

2668
02:16:10.319 --> 02:16:11.560
<v Speaker 3>far does it have to get?

2669
02:16:11.840 --> 02:16:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Moses is talking to God. He's Moses said, unto the Lord,

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02:16:15.199 --> 02:16:17.800
<v Speaker 1>wherefore hast thou afflicted thy servant? And wherefore have I

2671
02:16:17.920 --> 02:16:20.439
<v Speaker 1>not found favor in sight? And we're the burden of

2672
02:16:20.479 --> 02:16:23.279
<v Speaker 1>these people upon me? He's like, hold on, dude, I've

2673
02:16:23.359 --> 02:16:25.720
<v Speaker 1>done everything you've asked me. How how is this my fault?

2674
02:16:26.079 --> 02:16:27.479
<v Speaker 1>Am I there? Am I there?

2675
02:16:27.600 --> 02:16:30.039
<v Speaker 3>Childcare Smith's behavior, don't I don't.

2676
02:16:29.880 --> 02:16:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Think bingo, sir, thank you? How is this agent smith behavior?

2677
02:16:34.399 --> 02:16:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Understand using this?

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02:16:36.040 --> 02:16:38.879
<v Speaker 3>This is an analogy carry them in your bosom like

2679
02:16:39.000 --> 02:16:42.360
<v Speaker 3>a nursing father. So so the Bible is telling me

2680
02:16:42.479 --> 02:16:44.399
<v Speaker 3>that fathers can nurse their babies.

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02:16:45.639 --> 02:16:49.159
<v Speaker 1>This is why he's saying it so incredulously with question marks.

2682
02:16:49.200 --> 02:16:51.639
<v Speaker 1>He's not saying it's a fact. He's saying it like, bro,

2683
02:16:51.799 --> 02:16:57.159
<v Speaker 1>what do you expect from me? Huh, there's a question

2684
02:16:57.319 --> 02:16:58.479
<v Speaker 1>mark on that. There's a reason.

2685
02:16:59.360 --> 02:17:03.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I see you're trying to say. But even still, regardless,

2686
02:17:03.840 --> 02:17:05.559
<v Speaker 2>are you saying what I'm saying or what it's saying?

2687
02:17:05.600 --> 02:17:05.879
<v Speaker 1>Doctor?

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02:17:05.920 --> 02:17:05.959
<v Speaker 3>No?

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02:17:06.040 --> 02:17:09.319
<v Speaker 2>No, no, I understand your point. I understand what you're

2690
02:17:09.319 --> 02:17:11.879
<v Speaker 2>trying to say that he's basically saying. Look, I'm not

2691
02:17:12.079 --> 02:17:14.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm not deceiving all these people. I'm not the one

2692
02:17:14.280 --> 02:17:15.879
<v Speaker 2>that's that's telling all the people to.

2693
02:17:16.200 --> 02:17:18.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm supposed to be the father to let them suckle

2694
02:17:18.440 --> 02:17:20.200
<v Speaker 1>at my teet here, like, what do you what do

2695
02:17:20.239 --> 02:17:22.959
<v Speaker 1>you want? Bro, I'm not a miracle worker. You did

2696
02:17:23.000 --> 02:17:24.360
<v Speaker 1>the plagues, you did the miracles.

2697
02:17:25.000 --> 02:17:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm just leading them interesting, but even still to suggest

2698
02:17:30.399 --> 02:17:31.399
<v Speaker 2>that to God.

2699
02:17:31.760 --> 02:17:34.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, Moses, you have to understand that Moses is

2700
02:17:34.079 --> 02:17:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the only human being to ever walk the earth other

2701
02:17:36.600 --> 02:17:39.959
<v Speaker 1>than Jesus, to have this close of a relationship to

2702
02:17:40.000 --> 02:17:43.879
<v Speaker 1>where he and God literally conversed backwards and forwards daily.

2703
02:17:44.319 --> 02:17:47.479
<v Speaker 1>He actually saw God's glory at least at one point

2704
02:17:47.520 --> 02:17:49.879
<v Speaker 1>in time. Like, you have to understand that Moses is

2705
02:17:50.000 --> 02:17:50.920
<v Speaker 1>not just a guy.

2706
02:17:51.479 --> 02:17:57.000
<v Speaker 3>He's the guy, right, all right, But taken in the aggregate,

2707
02:17:57.079 --> 02:18:00.719
<v Speaker 3>what happens is these examples are first of all foreign,

2708
02:18:00.799 --> 02:18:03.600
<v Speaker 3>and I can basically get a pastor to reluctantly admit

2709
02:18:04.000 --> 02:18:05.879
<v Speaker 3>that he never knew it was in his Bible. He

2710
02:18:06.000 --> 02:18:07.799
<v Speaker 3>never knew it was in his Bible. He never knew,

2711
02:18:08.000 --> 02:18:12.280
<v Speaker 3>And after him, you have blown my mind tonight. Fifteen

2712
02:18:12.399 --> 02:18:15.159
<v Speaker 3>twenty examples where the guy's never heard of it before.

2713
02:18:15.319 --> 02:18:19.520
<v Speaker 3>It becomes like, you know, it's the guy the pilot.

2714
02:18:19.680 --> 02:18:23.079
<v Speaker 3>This can't even identify ten instruments. There's something going on here,

2715
02:18:23.280 --> 02:18:26.680
<v Speaker 3>not a good love. It's not a good look. No

2716
02:18:26.879 --> 02:18:31.719
<v Speaker 3>it isn't. It's what But these these add another element,

2717
02:18:31.799 --> 02:18:36.399
<v Speaker 3>look like Proverbs. Proverbs twenty six ten says God rewards

2718
02:18:36.559 --> 02:18:41.120
<v Speaker 3>fools and transgressors, but so so what the pastors are

2719
02:18:41.120 --> 02:18:43.840
<v Speaker 3>having to say, Well, it doesn't mean that. Oh, then

2720
02:18:43.879 --> 02:18:46.840
<v Speaker 3>we say Proverbs twenty six ten.

2721
02:18:46.959 --> 02:18:48.319
<v Speaker 1>Twenty six ten.

2722
02:18:48.600 --> 02:18:51.440
<v Speaker 2>The Great God that formed all things both rewardeth the

2723
02:18:51.559 --> 02:18:53.680
<v Speaker 2>full and rewardeth transgressors.

2724
02:18:54.479 --> 02:18:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Do returneth to his turneth to his volley. Folly, folly.

2725
02:19:00.120 --> 02:19:02.280
<v Speaker 1>If thou a man wise in his own conceit, there

2726
02:19:02.399 --> 02:19:04.600
<v Speaker 1>is more hope of a fool than of him. Basically,

2727
02:19:04.680 --> 02:19:07.600
<v Speaker 1>what he's saying is, yes, sometimes God gives good shit

2728
02:19:07.719 --> 02:19:10.840
<v Speaker 1>to bad people, but you'll understand and watch how they'll

2729
02:19:10.879 --> 02:19:12.319
<v Speaker 1>return to their bad ways regardless.

2730
02:19:12.440 --> 02:19:14.879
<v Speaker 2>What are you saying about this specific passage, Joe.

2731
02:19:15.360 --> 02:19:18.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, what I'm saying is it's a biblical paradox. God

2732
02:19:18.719 --> 02:19:20.120
<v Speaker 3>doesn't reward fools.

2733
02:19:20.479 --> 02:19:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes good things happen to bad people.

2734
02:19:22.520 --> 02:19:26.399
<v Speaker 3>That's stressors, right, But taken into aggreate it starts to

2735
02:19:26.520 --> 02:19:31.120
<v Speaker 3>wear this kind of rationalizing the meanings of these things

2736
02:19:31.600 --> 02:19:36.360
<v Speaker 3>because they're also wildly unfamiliar. It starts to become incredulous.

2737
02:19:36.440 --> 02:19:39.120
<v Speaker 3>It starts to become like nah, frog, I'm not buying it.

2738
02:19:39.600 --> 02:19:43.719
<v Speaker 3>Like Second Corinthians eight eleven, it says, I know it

2739
02:19:43.840 --> 02:19:47.559
<v Speaker 3>has Paul robbing churches. Second Corinthians eleven eight.

2740
02:19:47.639 --> 02:19:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, he was horrible at one point in time.

2741
02:19:50.959 --> 02:19:54.120
<v Speaker 3>Well, no, what I'm saying is I can go into

2742
02:19:54.159 --> 02:19:57.000
<v Speaker 3>a pastor's office and I can get the pastor to

2743
02:19:57.200 --> 02:20:00.920
<v Speaker 3>say to me ten or fifteen times in a row. Well, John,

2744
02:20:01.040 --> 02:20:02.200
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't really mean that.

2745
02:20:02.879 --> 02:20:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Wait, give me the word the verse you're talking about

2746
02:20:04.879 --> 02:20:05.120
<v Speaker 1>here we.

2747
02:20:05.120 --> 02:20:08.280
<v Speaker 3>Get second Corinthians eleven eight, eleven eight.

2748
02:20:08.319 --> 02:20:10.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry I went to eight eleven says I robbed

2749
02:20:10.600 --> 02:20:13.920
<v Speaker 2>other churches, taking wages of them to do you service.

2750
02:20:14.120 --> 02:20:17.520
<v Speaker 3>All right, now, listen, I got enough sense. I'm not

2751
02:20:17.680 --> 02:20:20.200
<v Speaker 3>even an apostle. Okay, I got enough sense to know

2752
02:20:20.680 --> 02:20:23.879
<v Speaker 3>that if I'm writing these letters to the churches. I

2753
02:20:23.879 --> 02:20:25.360
<v Speaker 3>don't know if he knew that this was going to

2754
02:20:25.360 --> 02:20:30.000
<v Speaker 3>become canonized and become, you know, spiritual law for all ages.

2755
02:20:30.079 --> 02:20:34.399
<v Speaker 3>But for sure these letters were weighty. Right, I got

2756
02:20:34.520 --> 02:20:37.040
<v Speaker 3>enough sense not to use that kind of imagery.

2757
02:20:37.760 --> 02:20:41.719
<v Speaker 1>But because he needs to, they need to understand that

2758
02:20:41.840 --> 02:20:44.840
<v Speaker 1>even if I, who was about this life, am telling

2759
02:20:44.920 --> 02:20:48.319
<v Speaker 1>you these words through Jesus, you have to understand who

2760
02:20:48.399 --> 02:20:51.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about, because I was the man of a man.

2761
02:20:52.120 --> 02:20:55.600
<v Speaker 3>Let's say, Jacob, your pastor, and I'm a second story guy.

2762
02:20:55.639 --> 02:20:58.440
<v Speaker 3>I robbed for a living, but I'm anxious for my soul.

2763
02:20:58.719 --> 02:21:00.559
<v Speaker 3>So I come into your church and you happen to

2764
02:21:00.639 --> 02:21:03.680
<v Speaker 3>be preaching on you know, Second Corinthians, and you can

2765
02:21:03.760 --> 02:21:06.399
<v Speaker 3>hit this verse. And I'm sitting in the last row,

2766
02:21:07.040 --> 02:21:09.920
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, sweet, I can keep being a second

2767
02:21:10.040 --> 02:21:12.719
<v Speaker 3>story guy and I can go to heaven. So and

2768
02:21:12.840 --> 02:21:14.799
<v Speaker 3>I come up to you and I say, hey, this

2769
02:21:15.000 --> 02:21:17.920
<v Speaker 3>is awesome, man. I can keep robbing if Paul was

2770
02:21:18.000 --> 02:21:20.079
<v Speaker 3>Robin's churches, so I can keep being a thief. How

2771
02:21:20.120 --> 02:21:21.319
<v Speaker 3>are you going to explain that to me?

2772
02:21:21.520 --> 02:21:24.200
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's not exactly what just God said,

2773
02:21:24.239 --> 02:21:26.840
<v Speaker 1>because once again we look and test the spirit. If

2774
02:21:26.879 --> 02:21:29.719
<v Speaker 1>the pastor is only preaching on verse eight alone, then

2775
02:21:29.799 --> 02:21:32.479
<v Speaker 1>like there's a problem here, because if you look verse.

2776
02:21:33.000 --> 02:21:35.399
<v Speaker 3>You could read the whole passage. I don't care. But

2777
02:21:35.479 --> 02:21:40.280
<v Speaker 3>he's saying, I explain to me why I can't rob.

2778
02:21:40.479 --> 02:21:42.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm not allowed to rob? Or Paul is robing?

2779
02:21:44.399 --> 02:21:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay, he's saying that basically Paul in the False Apostles

2780
02:21:48.239 --> 02:21:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Verse one. I'm looking at the new International version. I'm

2781
02:21:50.280 --> 02:21:52.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna flip over to King James. I hope you will

2782
02:21:52.799 --> 02:21:55.440
<v Speaker 1>put up with me. In a little foolishness. Yes, please

2783
02:21:55.520 --> 02:21:57.680
<v Speaker 1>put up with me. I am jealous for you, with

2784
02:21:57.799 --> 02:22:00.920
<v Speaker 1>a godly jealousy. I promised you to be one husband

2785
02:22:01.000 --> 02:22:03.479
<v Speaker 1>to Christ so that I may present you as a

2786
02:22:03.600 --> 02:22:06.079
<v Speaker 1>pure virgin to him. He is talking about the church

2787
02:22:06.200 --> 02:22:07.639
<v Speaker 1>in general, right as the church.

2788
02:22:07.799 --> 02:22:10.200
<v Speaker 3>I can actually help him because I've read the commentaries

2789
02:22:10.239 --> 02:22:13.200
<v Speaker 3>and I can tell you what what the meaning is

2790
02:22:13.280 --> 02:22:17.639
<v Speaker 3>supposed to be, which is which is the churches provided

2791
02:22:17.719 --> 02:22:21.440
<v Speaker 3>Paul with so much benefit that he felt like he

2792
02:22:21.639 --> 02:22:24.559
<v Speaker 3>was robbing them. Okay, I get the underlying meaning. But

2793
02:22:24.680 --> 02:22:28.959
<v Speaker 3>this is fifty of these now, and we're coming at

2794
02:22:29.000 --> 02:22:31.680
<v Speaker 3>the church and we're saying, well, this is what it

2795
02:22:31.760 --> 02:22:34.680
<v Speaker 3>says and what we're being told, Well, it doesn't really

2796
02:22:34.799 --> 02:22:37.040
<v Speaker 3>mean that. You have to look at the original. Well,

2797
02:22:37.120 --> 02:22:40.680
<v Speaker 3>the original for rob is to rob, So the original

2798
02:22:40.799 --> 02:22:44.559
<v Speaker 3>means robbed, and the English words mean robbed. So then

2799
02:22:44.600 --> 02:22:48.440
<v Speaker 3>we go we go to like, you know, Revelation chapter one,

2800
02:22:48.600 --> 02:22:51.879
<v Speaker 3>verse thirteen. Try that one on. Pull that one up

2801
02:22:51.879 --> 02:22:52.360
<v Speaker 3>for a second.

2802
02:22:52.479 --> 02:22:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Revelations chapter one, verse thirteen. Yeah, all right, here we go,

2803
02:22:57.920 --> 02:23:01.639
<v Speaker 1>King James. And in the midst of the seven candlesticks,

2804
02:23:01.760 --> 02:23:04.600
<v Speaker 1>one like unto the Son of Man, clothed with a

2805
02:23:04.680 --> 02:23:07.840
<v Speaker 1>garment down to the foot and girt about the paps

2806
02:23:07.920 --> 02:23:10.159
<v Speaker 1>with a golden girdle. Yeah, you brought this up last

2807
02:23:10.159 --> 02:23:10.920
<v Speaker 1>time you're on the show.

2808
02:23:11.600 --> 02:23:16.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, baby, So paps is the word mastos, which is

2809
02:23:16.200 --> 02:23:19.879
<v Speaker 3>female breasts. Yes, there is another word which is stethos,

2810
02:23:19.959 --> 02:23:24.319
<v Speaker 3>which is male breasts. Fair. And so it's a really

2811
02:23:24.440 --> 02:23:29.920
<v Speaker 3>difficult problem because we're being told, well, the English words

2812
02:23:29.959 --> 02:23:33.280
<v Speaker 3>don't really mean what they clearly say, like Paul isn't

2813
02:23:33.319 --> 02:23:36.360
<v Speaker 3>really robbing, and it's two men in a bed, it's

2814
02:23:36.479 --> 02:23:40.600
<v Speaker 3>not really mean they're doing something. Or you know, turtles

2815
02:23:40.680 --> 02:23:45.360
<v Speaker 3>doesn't really mean turtles. Okay, well this means female breasts

2816
02:23:45.479 --> 02:23:50.399
<v Speaker 3>in the original. Okay, so now you can't tell me

2817
02:23:50.520 --> 02:23:53.399
<v Speaker 3>it's not the English Word's not that, it's the context.

2818
02:23:53.479 --> 02:23:55.479
<v Speaker 3>You have to take the full right. I'm like crying,

2819
02:23:55.600 --> 02:23:57.879
<v Speaker 3>uncle man. I'm like, you know, I already know the

2820
02:23:57.959 --> 02:24:01.120
<v Speaker 3>Mandel effect is happening because we got flip flops, mirror,

2821
02:24:01.239 --> 02:24:04.239
<v Speaker 3>mirror on the wall never existed, right, we already know

2822
02:24:04.440 --> 02:24:07.239
<v Speaker 3>the Mandel fect is real, and so it's very easy

2823
02:24:07.319 --> 02:24:10.239
<v Speaker 3>for us to accept that it's also affecting the Bible.

2824
02:24:10.959 --> 02:24:13.280
<v Speaker 3>And so we're going in and we're finding all these

2825
02:24:13.440 --> 02:24:18.559
<v Speaker 3>wildly unfamiliar passages. And now there's these themes LBGT themes.

2826
02:24:18.559 --> 02:24:21.120
<v Speaker 3>So look in that one it talks about wearing a girdle.

2827
02:24:22.000 --> 02:24:27.399
<v Speaker 3>You got men wearing bonnets, girdles, purses, lace. You got

2828
02:24:27.479 --> 02:24:30.559
<v Speaker 3>all these weird, unfamiliar passages where men in the Old

2829
02:24:30.600 --> 02:24:31.840
<v Speaker 3>Testament are kissing each other.

2830
02:24:33.399 --> 02:24:36.760
<v Speaker 1>So this Testament, Jesus was the trade with a kiss.

2831
02:24:38.159 --> 02:24:44.120
<v Speaker 3>So at a certain point, and now Jesus is touching babies.

2832
02:24:44.559 --> 02:24:47.920
<v Speaker 3>We all remember that they brought children to him to

2833
02:24:48.000 --> 02:24:50.559
<v Speaker 3>bless them. But now.

2834
02:24:51.879 --> 02:24:54.879
<v Speaker 1>Actually the prophets turned them away. At first, the disciples

2835
02:24:54.920 --> 02:24:57.760
<v Speaker 1>turned the children away, and Jesus told him, when I know,

2836
02:24:57.879 --> 02:24:59.760
<v Speaker 1>let the children through. If they don't start learning the

2837
02:24:59.760 --> 02:25:01.559
<v Speaker 1>world at this age, they'll never learn it.

2838
02:25:03.440 --> 02:25:07.200
<v Speaker 3>So if Jesus has female breasts and they're bringing babies

2839
02:25:07.319 --> 02:25:09.719
<v Speaker 3>to him to touch him, Let's say I'm a Satanic

2840
02:25:09.799 --> 02:25:12.040
<v Speaker 3>pedophile and I come into your church and I'm anxious

2841
02:25:12.079 --> 02:25:15.360
<v Speaker 3>for my soul. But then i find out Jesus's female breast,

2842
02:25:15.399 --> 02:25:18.639
<v Speaker 3>so he's pictured as Baphomet, and then he's touching babies,

2843
02:25:18.719 --> 02:25:22.280
<v Speaker 3>so maybe he's the pedophile. You know, I'm sorry, but

2844
02:25:22.440 --> 02:25:24.920
<v Speaker 3>this is what you know is in my Bible. And

2845
02:25:24.959 --> 02:25:26.920
<v Speaker 3>then it's two men that are in the bed and

2846
02:25:27.040 --> 02:25:30.440
<v Speaker 3>two women grinding, and grinding is a euphemism for sex

2847
02:25:30.559 --> 02:25:32.799
<v Speaker 3>in the Book of Job where it says if you

2848
02:25:33.000 --> 02:25:37.360
<v Speaker 3>disobey God, let women, let another man grind on your wife.

2849
02:25:37.760 --> 02:25:41.200
<v Speaker 3>So grinding is a euphemism for sex. So you got

2850
02:25:41.280 --> 02:25:43.280
<v Speaker 3>two men in a bed and two women grinding. These

2851
02:25:43.920 --> 02:25:49.399
<v Speaker 3>are themes which are being picked up by ALBGT theologians

2852
02:25:49.440 --> 02:25:53.040
<v Speaker 3>and they're writing articles see It's okay to be gay

2853
02:25:53.559 --> 02:25:54.879
<v Speaker 3>because one of them got raptured.

2854
02:25:55.079 --> 02:25:57.319
<v Speaker 1>Once again, you have to also look at the context.

2855
02:25:58.079 --> 02:26:00.360
<v Speaker 1>What is happening in this. Is this being mentioned as

2856
02:26:00.399 --> 02:26:02.440
<v Speaker 1>a way to say how wrong it is, as a

2857
02:26:02.520 --> 02:26:05.040
<v Speaker 1>way to say this is a negative thing, or is

2858
02:26:05.079 --> 02:26:07.680
<v Speaker 1>it just being mentioned for the hell of it? Once again,

2859
02:26:07.799 --> 02:26:09.360
<v Speaker 1>context literally means everything.

2860
02:26:10.079 --> 02:26:14.319
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think it would say it's condonia because that's

2861
02:26:14.399 --> 02:26:16.840
<v Speaker 3>what the LBGT community said pointing to it.

2862
02:26:17.040 --> 02:26:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, then let's talk about the Book of Romans

2863
02:26:18.959 --> 02:26:21.040
<v Speaker 1>where it talks about marriage being of one man and

2864
02:26:21.239 --> 02:26:24.520
<v Speaker 1>one woman. Well, that specifically only meant that's one man

2865
02:26:24.680 --> 02:26:27.760
<v Speaker 1>and that one woman. I am not that one man

2866
02:26:27.840 --> 02:26:30.239
<v Speaker 1>it was referring to and or nor is my wife

2867
02:26:30.360 --> 02:26:33.600
<v Speaker 1>that one woman. Therefore, does it even apply to us today? See,

2868
02:26:33.639 --> 02:26:36.120
<v Speaker 1>we can't just do that. We have to actually look

2869
02:26:36.120 --> 02:26:38.959
<v Speaker 1>at the context of what's actually being discussed and why.

2870
02:26:39.360 --> 02:26:41.280
<v Speaker 3>Well, how many people are in the Jackson five?

2871
02:26:43.120 --> 02:26:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I think five? I guess that was really random. But

2872
02:26:45.440 --> 02:26:47.440
<v Speaker 1>we're talking to the Jackson five.

2873
02:26:48.200 --> 02:26:48.719
<v Speaker 3>The six.

2874
02:26:49.280 --> 02:26:50.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you brought that one up last time.

2875
02:26:50.840 --> 02:26:50.959
<v Speaker 5>Two.

2876
02:26:51.440 --> 02:26:52.239
<v Speaker 1>That blew my mind.

2877
02:26:52.840 --> 02:26:57.360
<v Speaker 3>Look, here's the original picture of the Jackson five. One, two, three, four, five, six,

2878
02:26:58.040 --> 02:27:00.680
<v Speaker 3>And here's a picture of them, and there's six of them.

2879
02:27:01.280 --> 02:27:03.559
<v Speaker 3>There's who was the youngest Jackson.

2880
02:27:04.399 --> 02:27:06.319
<v Speaker 1>We all were given to believe Michael.

2881
02:27:06.559 --> 02:27:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Michael, That's what I remember. But there was another one.

2882
02:27:08.959 --> 02:27:12.920
<v Speaker 3>This guy here, This guy is like younger than Michael.

2883
02:27:13.079 --> 02:27:15.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be honest with you. I was born in

2884
02:27:15.799 --> 02:27:16.559
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety two.

2885
02:27:17.040 --> 02:27:20.559
<v Speaker 1>To my actual verification, I don't know that he was

2886
02:27:20.639 --> 02:27:23.040
<v Speaker 1>ever black, because I don't know if every picture I've

2887
02:27:23.040 --> 02:27:26.799
<v Speaker 1>ever seen has been doctored at all. I only remember

2888
02:27:26.879 --> 02:27:29.959
<v Speaker 1>Michael Jackson being white and dangling his baby over a balcony.

2889
02:27:30.479 --> 02:27:33.399
<v Speaker 1>Apparently allegedly he was a part of the Jackson five.

2890
02:27:33.559 --> 02:27:36.319
<v Speaker 1>Jacob can't verify that Jacob was born in nineteen ninety two.

2891
02:27:36.840 --> 02:27:38.280
<v Speaker 1>You're making a joke out of it. Now, I see

2892
02:27:38.280 --> 02:27:41.520
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing, but I'm being serious. There's a lot

2893
02:27:41.600 --> 02:27:43.360
<v Speaker 1>of pictures, but I mean, how do I know that

2894
02:27:43.440 --> 02:27:43.799
<v Speaker 1>that's real?

2895
02:27:43.879 --> 02:27:44.079
<v Speaker 5>Shit?

2896
02:27:44.239 --> 02:27:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you're making a folly of it, is what

2897
02:27:46.520 --> 02:27:46.799
<v Speaker 2>you doing?

2898
02:27:46.840 --> 02:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not intending to if it's going the fuck out

2899
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<v Speaker 1>there with that?

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02:27:52.360 --> 02:27:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Ever is customer man?

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02:27:55.040 --> 02:27:59.520
<v Speaker 2>He is? He done this very thing as a reference? Yeah,

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02:27:59.520 --> 02:28:02.920
<v Speaker 2>but that's no, that doesn't apply here. Why not because

2903
02:28:02.920 --> 02:28:04.520
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't because you've done.

2904
02:28:04.360 --> 02:28:07.719
<v Speaker 1>That a million times to examples provided brom not like this.

2905
02:28:08.920 --> 02:28:10.479
<v Speaker 2>But I do want to get to you know, you

2906
02:28:10.559 --> 02:28:13.920
<v Speaker 2>were referencing about the LGBT Bible and stuff like that

2907
02:28:14.000 --> 02:28:15.760
<v Speaker 2>and how they make mention of it. I actually found

2908
02:28:15.799 --> 02:28:18.959
<v Speaker 2>a website it's called Saint Hugh dot net, and clearly

2909
02:28:19.079 --> 02:28:22.959
<v Speaker 2>this is a LGBT Bible thing because it says God

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02:28:23.040 --> 02:28:24.239
<v Speaker 2>loves you no exceptions.

2911
02:28:24.559 --> 02:28:25.200
<v Speaker 1>It true.

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02:28:25.559 --> 02:28:28.799
<v Speaker 2>What does the Bible say about homosexuality, same sex attraction,

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02:28:28.959 --> 02:28:30.079
<v Speaker 2>and being transgender?

2914
02:28:30.520 --> 02:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Says?

2915
02:28:30.799 --> 02:28:33.280
<v Speaker 2>This collection of scripture was compiled by several members of

2916
02:28:33.360 --> 02:28:36.920
<v Speaker 2>our congregation whose LGBTQ family members have experienced hurt and

2917
02:28:37.000 --> 02:28:38.200
<v Speaker 2>rejection from people who.

2918
02:28:38.120 --> 02:28:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Told them that God condemned them because of who they were.

2919
02:28:41.040 --> 02:28:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Our goal is to highlight some of the many messages

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02:28:43.399 --> 02:28:45.680
<v Speaker 2>of love and inclusion that are in the Bible, and

2921
02:28:45.799 --> 02:28:48.360
<v Speaker 2>to help people consider the original meaning of the passages

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02:28:48.399 --> 02:28:53.120
<v Speaker 2>that have been used to condemn LGBT people, sometimes called

2923
02:28:53.559 --> 02:28:54.680
<v Speaker 2>the clobber versus.

2924
02:28:54.840 --> 02:28:57.239
<v Speaker 1>We are rapidly approaching that slippery slope, sir.

2925
02:28:57.440 --> 02:28:59.959
<v Speaker 2>I mean, hey, it's not our opinion, it's a website.

2926
02:29:01.040 --> 02:29:03.719
<v Speaker 2>It says nothing can separate us from the love of God.

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02:29:04.200 --> 02:29:05.360
<v Speaker 1>That's very true. Okay.

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02:29:05.479 --> 02:29:08.639
<v Speaker 2>It says this message is for all people, including LGBT. Okay, yeah,

2929
02:29:08.639 --> 02:29:10.120
<v Speaker 2>I want to get to the actual thing.

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02:29:10.239 --> 02:29:13.120
<v Speaker 1>What are they? All people are justified through Christ.

2931
02:29:13.760 --> 02:29:16.799
<v Speaker 2>God did not make a mistake in creating LGBTQ people

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02:29:16.920 --> 02:29:19.920
<v Speaker 2>for and then it quotes it says, for for you

2933
02:29:20.159 --> 02:29:23.239
<v Speaker 2>created my inmost being. You knit me together in your

2934
02:29:23.520 --> 02:29:26.239
<v Speaker 2>in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am

2935
02:29:26.319 --> 02:29:29.360
<v Speaker 2>fearfully and wonderfully made. Your works are wonderful. I know

2936
02:29:29.520 --> 02:29:32.840
<v Speaker 2>that full well. And then it says sexual identity. Sexual

2937
02:29:32.959 --> 02:29:36.840
<v Speaker 2>identity and gender identity are components of a person's personality

2938
02:29:37.280 --> 02:29:40.319
<v Speaker 2>and as such are part of who God made each

2939
02:29:40.360 --> 02:29:40.920
<v Speaker 2>of us to be.

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02:29:41.040 --> 02:29:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Hold on time. Is it a personality or a way

2941
02:29:43.239 --> 02:29:48.799
<v Speaker 1>you're born? Dammit? Hold on, moving on? I mean yeah,

2942
02:29:48.840 --> 02:29:50.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean you could. You could make it.

2943
02:29:50.639 --> 02:29:52.760
<v Speaker 2>You can make an argument that your identity would be

2944
02:29:52.799 --> 02:29:53.559
<v Speaker 2>your personality.

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02:29:53.719 --> 02:29:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Of what else is it? I don't know, I'm asking.

2946
02:29:58.719 --> 02:30:02.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, you know, but it says Jesus warned

2947
02:30:02.280 --> 02:30:04.000
<v Speaker 2>us against using anti gaslers.

2948
02:30:04.719 --> 02:30:09.159
<v Speaker 1>It says the in matt didn't no way correct.

2949
02:30:09.239 --> 02:30:11.559
<v Speaker 2>In Matthew five twenty two, it says anyone who stay,

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02:30:11.879 --> 02:30:14.680
<v Speaker 2>or anyone who says to a brother or sister raka

2951
02:30:15.280 --> 02:30:18.840
<v Speaker 2>is is answerable to the court. The original Greek text

2952
02:30:18.920 --> 02:30:22.079
<v Speaker 2>does not include sister, and the word raka is most

2953
02:30:22.239 --> 02:30:27.159
<v Speaker 2>likely a transliteration of the Arabic word raka, which is

2954
02:30:27.280 --> 02:30:30.399
<v Speaker 2>the feminine form of the adjective that means to bet,

2955
02:30:30.760 --> 02:30:33.840
<v Speaker 2>to be tender, weak, or soft. So this would be

2956
02:30:33.879 --> 02:30:36.159
<v Speaker 2>comparable to calling a man a sissy or worse.

2957
02:30:36.760 --> 02:30:38.879
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of a stretch, That's what I'm saying. There's

2958
02:30:38.959 --> 02:30:40.879
<v Speaker 1>always these stretches that are taken, and you have to

2959
02:30:40.920 --> 02:30:41.879
<v Speaker 1>look at it a certain way.

2960
02:30:41.920 --> 02:30:45.319
<v Speaker 2>And it's Oh, David and Jonathan were these homosexuals. Let's

2961
02:30:45.319 --> 02:30:48.280
<v Speaker 2>see examples of love between the same gender.

2962
02:30:48.319 --> 02:30:50.239
<v Speaker 1>And the Bible. Damn all right.

2963
02:30:50.399 --> 02:30:54.479
<v Speaker 2>It says after David had finished talking with Saul, Jonathan

2964
02:30:54.600 --> 02:30:57.920
<v Speaker 2>became one in spirit with David, and he loved him

2965
02:30:58.040 --> 02:31:01.559
<v Speaker 2>as himself. David says, of Jonathan, your love for me

2966
02:31:01.840 --> 02:31:05.840
<v Speaker 2>as what your love for me was wonderful, more wonderful

2967
02:31:06.000 --> 02:31:06.920
<v Speaker 2>than that of women.

2968
02:31:07.920 --> 02:31:12.559
<v Speaker 3>Oh hold on, second, Samuel one, twenty six. Let me

2969
02:31:12.639 --> 02:31:13.159
<v Speaker 3>pull that up.

2970
02:31:14.479 --> 02:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Second second Samuel won twenty six. Yep. Wow, there's some

2971
02:31:21.680 --> 02:31:24.319
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know this. Hey, look, let's see what the

2972
02:31:24.360 --> 02:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>man's got to say on it.

2973
02:31:25.719 --> 02:31:28.040
<v Speaker 2>And then it gets into Ruth in Naomi and then

2974
02:31:28.079 --> 02:31:31.079
<v Speaker 2>the centurion and his servant as.

2975
02:31:31.200 --> 02:31:33.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, the centurion being the Roman. Yeah, there was a

2976
02:31:33.600 --> 02:31:36.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of homosexuality in Rome. It's kind of well documented.

2977
02:31:37.559 --> 02:31:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, God, so Ruth and Naomi. Ruth expresses her

2978
02:31:40.559 --> 02:31:44.399
<v Speaker 1>devotion to Naomi with wherever you go, I will go.

2979
02:31:44.600 --> 02:31:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Wherever you live, I will live. Your people will be

2980
02:31:47.319 --> 02:31:49.200
<v Speaker 2>my people, and your God will be my God. Wherever

2981
02:31:49.280 --> 02:31:52.079
<v Speaker 2>you die, I will die, and there will be uh

2982
02:31:52.280 --> 02:31:54.760
<v Speaker 2>there I will be buried. May the Lord deal with me,

2983
02:31:55.000 --> 02:31:59.159
<v Speaker 2>be it ever so severely, if even death separates you

2984
02:31:59.280 --> 02:31:59.479
<v Speaker 2>and me.

2985
02:31:59.719 --> 02:32:01.639
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, no, we are not going to

2986
02:32:01.719 --> 02:32:05.520
<v Speaker 1>make a Naomi and Ruth lesbian couple happen here. That

2987
02:32:05.680 --> 02:32:07.719
<v Speaker 1>was a mother in law to a daughter, and I

2988
02:32:07.760 --> 02:32:10.399
<v Speaker 1>love lesbian's brother. They're awesome. No, no, no, no, no,

2989
02:32:10.920 --> 02:32:13.319
<v Speaker 1>that's not what we're doing here. Whenever she married into

2990
02:32:13.399 --> 02:32:16.399
<v Speaker 1>this tribe, she left all of her people behind. Naomi

2991
02:32:16.520 --> 02:32:19.079
<v Speaker 1>had nowhere to I'm sorry, Ruth had nowhere to go.

2992
02:32:20.399 --> 02:32:22.319
<v Speaker 1>Excud know it was Naomi. Ruth was the mother in law.

2993
02:32:22.360 --> 02:32:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Excuse me she had that was it? She basically said, No,

2994
02:32:25.479 --> 02:32:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm married into this life. I am with you. I

2995
02:32:27.840 --> 02:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>am blood of your blood and bone of your bone

2996
02:32:29.760 --> 02:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>through my marriage to your son, even though he's dead

2997
02:32:32.520 --> 02:32:35.280
<v Speaker 1>now like you're my family, You're all I have left.

2998
02:32:35.399 --> 02:32:38.840
<v Speaker 2>You're saying, definitely no scissoring going on, absolut fucking what

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02:32:39.040 --> 02:32:39.319
<v Speaker 2>the hell?

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02:32:39.479 --> 02:32:42.120
<v Speaker 3>No, No, I got one more. This is a kind

3001
02:32:42.159 --> 02:32:46.040
<v Speaker 3>of a new one. Check out Isaiah eight, all right

3002
02:32:46.280 --> 02:32:48.600
<v Speaker 3>from the first one. Because I've asked, I've asked a

3003
02:32:48.680 --> 02:32:50.559
<v Speaker 3>few pastors this. I haven't had a chance to ask

3004
02:32:50.639 --> 02:32:54.440
<v Speaker 3>so many, but I said, hey, pastor, uh, is you

3005
02:32:54.799 --> 02:32:57.719
<v Speaker 3>story that Isaiah knocked up a prophetess? Did he ever

3006
02:32:57.799 --> 02:32:58.760
<v Speaker 3>knock up a prophetesce?

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02:32:58.879 --> 02:33:01.399
<v Speaker 1>No, Isaiah what it says.

3008
02:33:01.799 --> 02:33:06.440
<v Speaker 3>Wait Isaiah. Chapter eight, verse one read three one, two three.

3009
02:33:06.360 --> 02:33:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Four Isaiah and his children as signs. The Lord said

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02:33:10.719 --> 02:33:13.200
<v Speaker 1>to me, take a large scroll and write on it

3011
02:33:13.360 --> 02:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>with an ordinary pen. Mahers shallah shash Baz. So I

3012
02:33:18.319 --> 02:33:22.239
<v Speaker 1>call in Uriah the priest and Zacharai, son of Jezbikia,

3013
02:33:22.959 --> 02:33:25.719
<v Speaker 1>as reliable witness for me. Oh, excuse me, excuse me.

3014
02:33:25.840 --> 02:33:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Hold on, I'm in the new international version. Hold On,

3015
02:33:30.760 --> 02:33:33.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say before I read this next line, because

3016
02:33:33.159 --> 02:33:35.799
<v Speaker 1>here's where it gets spicy. Ladies and gentlemen. Understand. This

3017
02:33:35.879 --> 02:33:38.239
<v Speaker 1>is new international We will in fact read King James.

3018
02:33:38.360 --> 02:33:38.719
<v Speaker 3>Hold on.

3019
02:33:39.600 --> 02:33:41.959
<v Speaker 1>Then I made love to the prophet Tess, and she

3020
02:33:42.200 --> 02:33:44.639
<v Speaker 1>conceived and gave birth to a son. And the Lord

3021
02:33:44.760 --> 02:33:48.520
<v Speaker 1>said to me, name him mahrs shall lal hash Baz,

3022
02:33:48.959 --> 02:33:51.920
<v Speaker 1>for before the boy knows how to say my father

3023
02:33:52.159 --> 02:33:55.360
<v Speaker 1>or my mother, the wealth of Damascus and the plunder

3024
02:33:55.440 --> 02:33:58.680
<v Speaker 1>of Samaria will be carried off by the king of Assyria.

3025
02:33:59.079 --> 02:34:03.840
<v Speaker 1>That is a direct quote. The Lord said to me, No,

3026
02:34:04.639 --> 02:34:06.680
<v Speaker 1>so this doesn't This isn't a physical thing. This is

3027
02:34:06.760 --> 02:34:09.079
<v Speaker 1>a a thing that is being said to Isaiah.

3028
02:34:10.120 --> 02:34:15.559
<v Speaker 3>Okay, right, okay, okay, but My point is, see, I'm

3029
02:34:15.680 --> 02:34:21.760
<v Speaker 3>just making you know, just common sense question. Hey, pastor,

3030
02:34:22.239 --> 02:34:25.319
<v Speaker 3>is it your understanding that Isaiah ever knocked up a prophetence?

3031
02:34:25.680 --> 02:34:25.719
<v Speaker 1>No?

3032
02:34:27.840 --> 02:34:30.559
<v Speaker 3>Okay? In other words, in other words, the guy read

3033
02:34:30.639 --> 02:34:33.319
<v Speaker 3>the Bible who God knows how many times and it's

3034
02:34:33.399 --> 02:34:35.840
<v Speaker 3>right in Isaiah chapter eight, verses one through four, and

3035
02:34:35.920 --> 02:34:38.959
<v Speaker 3>he never knew it. How is that possible? It's not possible.

3036
02:34:39.360 --> 02:34:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's because it actually wasn't a physical thing. It

3037
02:34:41.799 --> 02:34:42.959
<v Speaker 1>was a It was a thing that was being told

3038
02:34:43.000 --> 02:34:44.479
<v Speaker 1>to him, and it was a whole thing later. But

3039
02:34:44.559 --> 02:34:46.040
<v Speaker 1>so he was told that mad And.

3040
02:34:46.040 --> 02:34:48.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how you're getting that. This is not

3041
02:34:48.399 --> 02:34:50.680
<v Speaker 3>a metaphor. This is really this is.

3042
02:34:50.879 --> 02:34:52.239
<v Speaker 1>Literally Isaiah's children, isn't it.

3043
02:34:53.040 --> 02:34:56.120
<v Speaker 3>Well, if you if you're understand that was his wife,

3044
02:34:56.760 --> 02:35:00.360
<v Speaker 3>hold on, if you're exegating this passage, there's no difference

3045
02:35:00.399 --> 02:35:04.959
<v Speaker 3>here that it's metaphorical. Oh, Jesus, Jesus is a door

3046
02:35:05.159 --> 02:35:09.319
<v Speaker 3>that's metaphorical. Jesus wapped that's not metaphorical. Okay. There's no

3047
02:35:09.559 --> 02:35:14.120
<v Speaker 3>inference here that this is to be interpreted with proper hermeneutics,

3048
02:35:14.159 --> 02:35:17.600
<v Speaker 3>that this is metaphorical. This is literal. The guys knocked

3049
02:35:17.680 --> 02:35:18.440
<v Speaker 3>up a prophetesce.

3050
02:35:18.600 --> 02:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>So is this supposed to be his wife?

3051
02:35:20.719 --> 02:35:24.040
<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't care if I go out, if I

3052
02:35:24.159 --> 02:35:27.799
<v Speaker 3>go out to these content experts who have lived in

3053
02:35:27.920 --> 02:35:31.399
<v Speaker 3>this book for four decades, and I say, is it

3054
02:35:31.559 --> 02:35:36.680
<v Speaker 3>your memory that that the Isaiah knocked up a prophetess.

3055
02:35:37.879 --> 02:35:39.360
<v Speaker 3>Well you got to look at it and love to

3056
02:35:39.479 --> 02:35:42.520
<v Speaker 3>a prophetess and they had a baby, and then call

3057
02:35:42.600 --> 02:35:46.360
<v Speaker 3>him mahaal Baja binga banga. And then they're like, no, no,

3058
02:35:46.520 --> 02:35:48.799
<v Speaker 3>I never heard of that. That's not possible.

3059
02:35:49.120 --> 02:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>But it's understood that he had two sons. Well, I

3060
02:35:51.680 --> 02:35:52.239
<v Speaker 1>don't care.

3061
02:35:52.600 --> 02:35:55.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay, you're you're trying to be commentary. Man. What I'm

3062
02:35:55.680 --> 02:35:58.520
<v Speaker 3>saying is this is very simple. You're complicating it. This

3063
02:35:58.840 --> 02:36:01.520
<v Speaker 3>is a memory quiz. And if you go to your

3064
02:36:01.600 --> 02:36:05.559
<v Speaker 3>aging parent and they don't recognize you, you're not going

3065
02:36:05.680 --> 02:36:08.600
<v Speaker 3>to give me some rational explanation for that. There is

3066
02:36:08.680 --> 02:36:12.079
<v Speaker 3>only one explanation. She has all timers. Now what if

3067
02:36:12.159 --> 02:36:15.920
<v Speaker 3>she doesn't have all time? Hold on, wait a minute,

3068
02:36:16.040 --> 02:36:19.040
<v Speaker 3>hold and there's no rational explanation. You see what I'm saying,

3069
02:36:19.200 --> 02:36:20.559
<v Speaker 3>recognizing your own child?

3070
02:36:20.680 --> 02:36:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Hold on, No, no, I hear you, I hear you,

3071
02:36:22.440 --> 02:36:25.079
<v Speaker 1>But hold on, Isaiah was married. His wife called the

3072
02:36:25.159 --> 02:36:27.920
<v Speaker 1>prophetess in Isaiah eight three, which seemed to be more

3073
02:36:27.959 --> 02:36:30.879
<v Speaker 1>than merely the wife of a prophet. Evidently, like Deborah

3074
02:36:30.920 --> 02:36:34.399
<v Speaker 1>of the time of Judges and like Halda during Josiah's reign,

3075
02:36:34.840 --> 02:36:38.840
<v Speaker 1>she had a prophetic assignment from Jehovah. How interesting, right,

3076
02:36:38.920 --> 02:36:40.520
<v Speaker 1>So you got to your boy. You look at it

3077
02:36:40.600 --> 02:36:43.239
<v Speaker 1>right here, it's in second King's twenty two fourteen. So

3078
02:36:43.399 --> 02:36:45.799
<v Speaker 1>she wasn't just the wife of a It's understood that,

3079
02:36:45.879 --> 02:36:47.920
<v Speaker 1>first of all, that was his wife, not just he

3080
02:36:48.000 --> 02:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>knocked up a prophet. No, he impregnated his wife. That's

3081
02:36:52.280 --> 02:36:53.879
<v Speaker 1>there's a different wording that sounds.

3082
02:36:53.920 --> 02:36:57.159
<v Speaker 3>Remember, nobody has any memory of Isaiah having a wife.

3083
02:36:57.280 --> 02:36:59.600
<v Speaker 3>It's all foreign to us. We don't have a memory

3084
02:36:59.600 --> 02:37:01.399
<v Speaker 3>of him having anybody.

3085
02:37:01.680 --> 02:37:03.959
<v Speaker 1>No, because I'm getting taken up in chariots of fire

3086
02:37:04.079 --> 02:37:07.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of eclipses that little tidbit. I suppose. I don't know.

3087
02:37:07.840 --> 02:37:10.120
<v Speaker 3>At a certain point, I'd never heard of the Bible

3088
02:37:10.200 --> 02:37:13.040
<v Speaker 3>sacrificing turtles. I'd never heard of female sheep. I never

3089
02:37:13.120 --> 02:37:16.559
<v Speaker 3>heard of flying females with wings. I never heard of

3090
02:37:16.959 --> 02:37:19.440
<v Speaker 3>Isaiah having a baby. I never heard of this. I

3091
02:37:19.520 --> 02:37:21.639
<v Speaker 3>never heard of that and after about ten of those

3092
02:37:21.719 --> 02:37:27.000
<v Speaker 3>in a row. Something's wrong in Denmark, something's not It's

3093
02:37:27.079 --> 02:37:29.840
<v Speaker 3>like the pilot with getting ten instruments. It can't happen.

3094
02:37:30.159 --> 02:37:33.639
<v Speaker 3>And I don't care what the rationale is. This is

3095
02:37:33.680 --> 02:37:36.360
<v Speaker 3>what happened to me in a pastor's study about one

3096
02:37:36.399 --> 02:37:39.040
<v Speaker 3>hundred times. Right, every time I go, hey, pastor, who

3097
02:37:39.120 --> 02:37:41.319
<v Speaker 3>laid down with the lamb? They go the lion, And

3098
02:37:41.399 --> 02:37:43.079
<v Speaker 3>now they go over there and it would be wolf,

3099
02:37:43.120 --> 02:37:48.639
<v Speaker 3>and this is what they do. Oh well wolf, Oh well, well, yeah,

3100
02:37:48.760 --> 02:37:52.600
<v Speaker 3>I can explain why this is there because the wolf

3101
02:37:52.680 --> 02:37:54.639
<v Speaker 3>represents blah blah blah. And they go off on this

3102
02:37:54.920 --> 02:37:58.360
<v Speaker 3>explanation and I'm sitting there waiting for them to finish. Okay, yeah,

3103
02:37:58.399 --> 02:38:04.639
<v Speaker 3>and I'm saying, okay, well that's interesting. But you said lion. Yes,

3104
02:38:05.559 --> 02:38:10.040
<v Speaker 3>why did you say lion? Well, you know the lion

3105
02:38:10.360 --> 02:38:12.319
<v Speaker 3>is this, but the wolf. I don't care what the

3106
02:38:12.440 --> 02:38:17.639
<v Speaker 3>wolf represents. You had a catastrophic memory failure, and so

3107
02:38:17.840 --> 02:38:21.079
<v Speaker 3>did one hundred million other pastors. They all say, lying,

3108
02:38:21.719 --> 02:38:26.200
<v Speaker 3>it's not possible. Period. It's the end of the conversation.

3109
02:38:27.040 --> 02:38:31.120
<v Speaker 3>There is no way to explain you waking up tomorrow

3110
02:38:31.200 --> 02:38:34.840
<v Speaker 3>and having your names different or your mom doesn't recognize

3111
02:38:34.879 --> 02:38:38.479
<v Speaker 3>you and she doesn't have Alzheimer's, or the pilot gets

3112
02:38:38.600 --> 02:38:42.239
<v Speaker 3>ten questions wrong and he doesn't have mental illness and

3113
02:38:42.360 --> 02:38:48.520
<v Speaker 3>he's on drugs. The only explanation is that something unexplainable

3114
02:38:48.680 --> 02:38:53.520
<v Speaker 3>is happening. Period, end of story. Repent, surrender, give it up,

3115
02:38:54.239 --> 02:38:55.520
<v Speaker 3>Agree with me, It's done.

3116
02:38:56.079 --> 02:38:59.840
<v Speaker 2>There is no explanation for it, right, yeah, there's I mean,

3117
02:39:00.000 --> 02:39:02.360
<v Speaker 2>how do you explain that away? You can explain it

3118
02:39:02.440 --> 02:39:05.159
<v Speaker 2>by saying, oh, well, yeah, I understand why it would

3119
02:39:05.200 --> 02:39:07.520
<v Speaker 2>be wolf, but like, that's not the point. The point

3120
02:39:07.600 --> 02:39:09.639
<v Speaker 2>is is that you remember it being lion and it's

3121
02:39:09.680 --> 02:39:11.319
<v Speaker 2>not lyon, So where did that come from?

3122
02:39:11.440 --> 02:39:13.680
<v Speaker 1>No, there's even songs that are being sung about this,

3123
02:39:13.840 --> 02:39:15.479
<v Speaker 1>the lion and the lamb.

3124
02:39:15.959 --> 02:39:17.399
<v Speaker 3>Okay, let me let me respond to that.

3125
02:39:17.639 --> 02:39:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So here's the man.

3126
02:39:20.399 --> 02:39:23.799
<v Speaker 3>That's what you're inferring. Okay, there's songs about the lines.

3127
02:39:23.840 --> 02:39:27.159
<v Speaker 3>So here's what you're referring. I read the Bible, and

3128
02:39:27.280 --> 02:39:30.440
<v Speaker 3>I read a daily devotional like Oswald Chambers. Then I

3129
02:39:30.639 --> 02:39:35.200
<v Speaker 3>listened to guys preaching on Sunday. Then I listened to sermons,

3130
02:39:35.360 --> 02:39:38.040
<v Speaker 3>and I listen to Christian music, and I go to

3131
02:39:38.120 --> 02:39:41.639
<v Speaker 3>a Bible study. So there's seven influences. All of them

3132
02:39:41.719 --> 02:39:45.040
<v Speaker 3>are telling me that the wolf lay down with the

3133
02:39:45.120 --> 02:39:48.360
<v Speaker 3>lamb if the Bible has always said that, hold on,

3134
02:39:48.600 --> 02:39:52.559
<v Speaker 3>just stay with me. So weeks turn into monds, months

3135
02:39:52.639 --> 02:39:56.360
<v Speaker 3>turn into years, and I have seven influences hitting me

3136
02:39:56.959 --> 02:40:00.479
<v Speaker 3>throughout this timeframe, all of them in four saying whoa

3137
02:40:00.600 --> 02:40:04.680
<v Speaker 3>full full, full full fool. But somebody which you don't

3138
02:40:04.719 --> 02:40:08.000
<v Speaker 3>know who, right, like who song sang the song? Do

3139
02:40:08.040 --> 02:40:08.600
<v Speaker 3>you know who it is?

3140
02:40:09.200 --> 02:40:09.319
<v Speaker 5>Uh?

3141
02:40:09.760 --> 02:40:11.399
<v Speaker 1>That's actually been saying about a lot of people. It's

3142
02:40:11.399 --> 02:40:14.000
<v Speaker 1>called how Great is Our God? It's a very very

3143
02:40:14.079 --> 02:40:16.280
<v Speaker 1>popular song and a lot of denominations.

3144
02:40:16.520 --> 02:40:17.600
<v Speaker 3>It's one song.

3145
02:40:18.000 --> 02:40:20.799
<v Speaker 1>And then well, I'm saying that the saying predates the song.

3146
02:40:20.879 --> 02:40:22.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying the song has been made because it's been

3147
02:40:22.520 --> 02:40:24.959
<v Speaker 1>so understood to be a thing. And I'm trying to

3148
02:40:25.000 --> 02:40:27.319
<v Speaker 1>find any reference of a lion and a lamb together

3149
02:40:27.399 --> 02:40:27.879
<v Speaker 1>in the Bible.

3150
02:40:27.920 --> 02:40:31.879
<v Speaker 3>It's wild, right, because it's it's this idea of we're told, Well, John,

3151
02:40:31.959 --> 02:40:33.799
<v Speaker 3>I can clear this up. This is just because of

3152
02:40:34.000 --> 02:40:37.520
<v Speaker 3>misquotes from pop culture and my response, okay, well who

3153
02:40:37.559 --> 02:40:40.319
<v Speaker 3>misquoted it? Well? I don't know that, all right, So

3154
02:40:40.399 --> 02:40:42.719
<v Speaker 3>it's a handle Mary, guess, so you really don't know.

3155
02:40:42.959 --> 02:40:46.760
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm looking right here Revelation five five and six,

3156
02:40:47.000 --> 02:40:49.280
<v Speaker 1>and this is a reference of a lion and a lamb.

3157
02:40:49.319 --> 02:40:51.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that is the lion and the lamb

3158
02:40:51.680 --> 02:40:53.840
<v Speaker 1>are laying down the lion in the lamb. You're correct

3159
02:40:53.879 --> 02:40:56.600
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent that the wolf and the lamb is

3160
02:40:56.879 --> 02:40:59.440
<v Speaker 1>in fact the verse, and that people are not getting

3161
02:40:59.440 --> 02:41:03.680
<v Speaker 1>that correct. However, that being said, there is a reference

3162
02:41:03.760 --> 02:41:06.479
<v Speaker 1>in the Book of Revelations, chapter five, verse five talking

3163
02:41:06.520 --> 02:41:08.719
<v Speaker 1>about a lion and a lamb. Here is a direct

3164
02:41:08.760 --> 02:41:12.360
<v Speaker 1>quote King James version. And one of the elders saith

3165
02:41:12.799 --> 02:41:15.799
<v Speaker 1>unto me, weep not behold the lion of the tribe

3166
02:41:15.840 --> 02:41:18.799
<v Speaker 1>of Judah, the root of David hath prevailed to open

3167
02:41:18.840 --> 02:41:21.600
<v Speaker 1>the brook, excuse me the book, and to loose the

3168
02:41:21.680 --> 02:41:25.120
<v Speaker 1>seven seals thereof verse six. And I behiled and low

3169
02:41:25.280 --> 02:41:28.200
<v Speaker 1>in the midst of the throne, and on the four breasts,

3170
02:41:28.440 --> 02:41:31.120
<v Speaker 1>and in the miss excuse, and on the four beasts

3171
02:41:31.520 --> 02:41:34.239
<v Speaker 1>and the mists of the elder, stood a lamb, as

3172
02:41:34.280 --> 02:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes,

3173
02:41:37.879 --> 02:41:40.440
<v Speaker 1>which there are seven spirits of God set forth into

3174
02:41:40.559 --> 02:41:42.840
<v Speaker 1>all the earth. So that is. I'm not saying that

3175
02:41:42.959 --> 02:41:46.120
<v Speaker 1>this is what they're believing or remembering them. I'm just

3176
02:41:46.200 --> 02:41:48.520
<v Speaker 1>saying that that's the only thing I could find as

3177
02:41:48.559 --> 02:41:50.440
<v Speaker 1>far as a reference to a lion in a lamb.

3178
02:41:50.600 --> 02:41:51.639
<v Speaker 1>But you wouldn't look.

3179
02:41:51.520 --> 02:41:53.680
<v Speaker 2>At that verse in the Bible and then make a

3180
02:41:53.799 --> 02:41:55.840
<v Speaker 2>lion in the lamb fucking nursery rhyme.

3181
02:41:56.000 --> 02:41:58.120
<v Speaker 1>No, I would not, because even then, even in the

3182
02:41:58.399 --> 02:42:02.200
<v Speaker 1>new international version international version, then one of the elders

3183
02:42:02.200 --> 02:42:03.920
<v Speaker 1>said to me, do not weep. See the line of

3184
02:42:03.959 --> 02:42:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the tribal Judah. The root of David has triumphed. He

3185
02:42:06.520 --> 02:42:08.799
<v Speaker 1>is able to open the scrolls and at seven seals.

3186
02:42:08.879 --> 02:42:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Then I saw lamb looking as if it had been slain,

3187
02:42:11.639 --> 02:42:13.840
<v Speaker 1>standing in the center of the throne, encircled by four

3188
02:42:13.920 --> 02:42:16.319
<v Speaker 1>living creatures, and the elders the lamb at seven horns,

3189
02:42:16.319 --> 02:42:19.760
<v Speaker 1>seven eyes, which are the seven spirits. So either way

3190
02:42:19.799 --> 02:42:22.479
<v Speaker 1>a slice that that is not the lion and the

3191
02:42:22.600 --> 02:42:24.879
<v Speaker 1>lamb that they are singing about, or if it is,

3192
02:42:25.000 --> 02:42:26.559
<v Speaker 1>they sure the hell don't know. It's from the Book

3193
02:42:26.559 --> 02:42:27.079
<v Speaker 1>of Revelation.

3194
02:42:28.440 --> 02:42:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Right, there's not a lot of for urcery rhymes that

3195
02:42:30.840 --> 02:42:34.239
<v Speaker 2>are talking like that are being born from Revelation.

3196
02:42:34.520 --> 02:42:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't think. I wouldn't think. You know, maybe maybe

3197
02:42:40.200 --> 02:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe some cultures do more of a fear based lullabies

3198
02:42:44.079 --> 02:42:46.399
<v Speaker 1>at night to their chut. I don't know. You know,

3199
02:42:46.559 --> 02:42:48.920
<v Speaker 1>the Germans have always been known for fear based shit,

3200
02:42:49.040 --> 02:42:51.840
<v Speaker 1>fear based holidays and whatnot. Look at crumpus.

3201
02:42:52.319 --> 02:42:54.479
<v Speaker 3>Well, I got a guy. I gotta guy's Actually I'm

3202
02:42:54.479 --> 02:42:55.799
<v Speaker 3>going to talk to him on Sunday. He's a good

3203
02:42:55.840 --> 02:42:56.280
<v Speaker 3>friend of mine.

3204
02:42:56.319 --> 02:42:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Now.

3205
02:42:56.520 --> 02:42:59.840
<v Speaker 3>His name is doctor Paul Graftonholt. He's got like four

3206
02:43:00.040 --> 02:43:06.120
<v Speaker 3>theological degrees. He's written eleven academic theological books that are

3207
02:43:06.159 --> 02:43:10.120
<v Speaker 3>actually used in Bible colleges as curriculum. And his twelfth

3208
02:43:10.200 --> 02:43:14.479
<v Speaker 3>book is called The King James Bible and the Quantum Effect.

3209
02:43:14.639 --> 02:43:19.520
<v Speaker 3>So he's basically telling the world the Bible is supernaturally changing.

3210
02:43:19.520 --> 02:43:21.479
<v Speaker 3>All right, This guy is no joke, all right, he's

3211
02:43:21.559 --> 02:43:25.159
<v Speaker 3>got the credentials boom, all right, so base. And this

3212
02:43:25.360 --> 02:43:29.079
<v Speaker 3>is how he got convinced it was happening. Somebody was

3213
02:43:29.159 --> 02:43:31.639
<v Speaker 3>talking about the Mandeli effect and they talked about the

3214
02:43:31.719 --> 02:43:36.680
<v Speaker 3>Lord's Prayer and it's instead of transgressions, it says debts.

3215
02:43:36.719 --> 02:43:39.479
<v Speaker 3>And he was like, that's ridiculous. It doesn't say Debts.

3216
02:43:40.479 --> 02:43:43.719
<v Speaker 3>So he gets his Bible and it says debts. And

3217
02:43:43.840 --> 02:43:46.520
<v Speaker 3>then so he gets his wife and he's like, all right,

3218
02:43:46.719 --> 02:43:50.120
<v Speaker 3>go ahead and quote the Lord's prayer, and she says

3219
02:43:50.159 --> 02:43:54.120
<v Speaker 3>it with transgressions, forgive us our transgressions, as we forgive

3220
02:43:54.159 --> 02:43:57.360
<v Speaker 3>those who transgressed us. And he's like, look, and the

3221
02:43:57.479 --> 02:44:01.600
<v Speaker 3>wife goes, oh, well, this must be like a modernization

3222
02:44:01.799 --> 02:44:05.239
<v Speaker 3>or something. I'll go upstairs and get Grandma's Gutenberg. Now

3223
02:44:05.319 --> 02:44:07.680
<v Speaker 3>I've heard this, I don't know how many times now

3224
02:44:08.280 --> 02:44:14.079
<v Speaker 3>in seven years. So the natural reaction when you first

3225
02:44:14.280 --> 02:44:18.280
<v Speaker 3>see one of these things, because it's again it's super vivid,

3226
02:44:18.440 --> 02:44:20.360
<v Speaker 3>like the back of your hand, you know, these bookscs

3227
02:44:20.399 --> 02:44:23.520
<v Speaker 3>you've lived in it for decades, is to think somehow

3228
02:44:23.600 --> 02:44:27.639
<v Speaker 3>you got some cokamanie version. Right, It's not what you've

3229
02:44:27.639 --> 02:44:30.040
<v Speaker 3>been reading your whole life. But you know, in the

3230
02:44:30.120 --> 02:44:33.000
<v Speaker 3>back of your mind, if Grandma's Gutenberg, which has been

3231
02:44:33.079 --> 02:44:35.920
<v Speaker 3>locked up there for one hundred years, says Wolf, then

3232
02:44:36.000 --> 02:44:38.399
<v Speaker 3>I'll believe it. And so the wife goes up there

3233
02:44:38.840 --> 02:44:41.280
<v Speaker 3>and she gets to Gutenberg out of the chest, and

3234
02:44:41.479 --> 02:44:45.319
<v Speaker 3>sure enough it says Wolf. And now she comes down

3235
02:44:45.440 --> 02:44:47.879
<v Speaker 3>and she puts it on the table in front of it.

3236
02:44:47.959 --> 02:44:53.920
<v Speaker 3>And this guy who's a is a renown theologian leaps

3237
02:44:54.440 --> 02:44:59.159
<v Speaker 3>over a ten foot theological wall of rational thinking and

3238
02:44:59.319 --> 02:45:01.280
<v Speaker 3>he lands up the fact that he knows what he

3239
02:45:01.360 --> 02:45:05.200
<v Speaker 3>knows what he knows. So this is not in some

3240
02:45:05.399 --> 02:45:07.239
<v Speaker 3>ways you have to come as a little child. You

3241
02:45:07.399 --> 02:45:11.559
<v Speaker 3>have to kind of abandon the whole intellectual aspect of

3242
02:45:11.680 --> 02:45:17.559
<v Speaker 3>your being and just trust the force. Luke right, and

3243
02:45:17.680 --> 02:45:18.479
<v Speaker 3>you you just know what.

3244
02:45:18.559 --> 02:45:22.479
<v Speaker 2>You know, right, And you know there's something that I

3245
02:45:23.440 --> 02:45:26.159
<v Speaker 2>this really just reminds me of something. So anybody that

3246
02:45:26.280 --> 02:45:29.000
<v Speaker 2>is a huge fan John, do you watch The Office,

3247
02:45:29.159 --> 02:45:29.799
<v Speaker 2>the TV show.

3248
02:45:30.159 --> 02:45:31.639
<v Speaker 3>I've seen it. Yeah, it's pretty funny.

3249
02:45:31.879 --> 02:45:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So there's a there's a part in the show

3250
02:45:34.639 --> 02:45:38.840
<v Speaker 2>where Michael Scott he writes a book and it's all about,

3251
02:45:39.520 --> 02:45:42.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, like this superhero and he makes Dwight a character,

3252
02:45:42.840 --> 02:45:44.920
<v Speaker 2>but it's really somebody else who's like portraying like a

3253
02:45:44.959 --> 02:45:48.719
<v Speaker 2>shitty character or whatever. And for every word, instead of

3254
02:45:48.879 --> 02:45:51.920
<v Speaker 2>using the name Dwight, he called him something else. And

3255
02:45:52.639 --> 02:45:55.440
<v Speaker 2>and so he had it like autocorrect on his on

3256
02:45:55.639 --> 02:45:59.520
<v Speaker 2>his wherever he was typing at Microsoft word or whatever whatever,

3257
02:46:00.120 --> 02:46:01.920
<v Speaker 2>everywhere that it said the word Dwight.

3258
02:46:02.040 --> 02:46:03.520
<v Speaker 1>It would change it for this other word.

3259
02:46:04.000 --> 02:46:08.239
<v Speaker 2>Now, that doesn't change if you spell the name Dwight wrong, right,

3260
02:46:08.399 --> 02:46:11.040
<v Speaker 2>So if he spelled the name Dwight wrong once it

3261
02:46:11.200 --> 02:46:14.840
<v Speaker 2>was dwicked, it was like dw igt instead of the ght.

3262
02:46:15.319 --> 02:46:18.319
<v Speaker 2>So it didn't auto correct that part in the story.

3263
02:46:18.760 --> 02:46:20.600
<v Speaker 2>So whenever you're going back and you're reading the story

3264
02:46:20.680 --> 02:46:23.239
<v Speaker 2>and it's you know, it's all about this character who

3265
02:46:23.360 --> 02:46:25.360
<v Speaker 2>is like a shitty person or whatever, and it's being

3266
02:46:25.440 --> 02:46:27.680
<v Speaker 2>called this one name the whole time, except for that

3267
02:46:27.760 --> 02:46:30.079
<v Speaker 2>one part that didn't get autocorrected, where it still says

3268
02:46:30.159 --> 02:46:33.120
<v Speaker 2>Dwight or it still says dwied right, And it's like,

3269
02:46:33.360 --> 02:46:36.680
<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, it's almost like this Mandela effect is

3270
02:46:37.120 --> 02:46:40.920
<v Speaker 2>it's changing everything. You know, it's it's auto correcting everything

3271
02:46:41.159 --> 02:46:44.120
<v Speaker 2>except for the things that haven't been highlighted, and the

3272
02:46:44.200 --> 02:46:44.840
<v Speaker 2>things that aren't.

3273
02:46:45.079 --> 02:46:46.120
<v Speaker 1>The things that aren't being.

3274
02:46:46.079 --> 02:46:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Highlighted would be you know, your nursery rhymes are people's

3275
02:46:49.600 --> 02:46:51.920
<v Speaker 2>memory because you can't wipe that, see right.

3276
02:46:51.840 --> 02:46:55.559
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty crazy, dude. Look at this Matthew six right here.

3277
02:46:55.600 --> 02:46:59.719
<v Speaker 1>The Lord's were Matthew six nine through and it's crazy

3278
02:46:59.760 --> 02:47:02.920
<v Speaker 1>because you're right, trespasses is not said anywhere in the

3279
02:47:03.040 --> 02:47:06.719
<v Speaker 1>actual quote until the word amen. However, in verse fourteen,

3280
02:47:07.280 --> 02:47:10.079
<v Speaker 1>for if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father

3281
02:47:10.159 --> 02:47:13.319
<v Speaker 1>will also forgive you. But if ye forgive not men

3282
02:47:13.440 --> 02:47:17.879
<v Speaker 1>their trespasses, neither will your father forgive your trespasses. So, actually,

3283
02:47:17.959 --> 02:47:21.239
<v Speaker 1>in the Lord's prayer itself, trespasses is not used, is

3284
02:47:21.360 --> 02:47:24.000
<v Speaker 1>used directly after. That's interesting, sir.

3285
02:47:25.280 --> 02:47:27.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, I have a question for you, John, as

3286
02:47:27.159 --> 02:47:29.040
<v Speaker 2>far as all this goes. You know, you talk about

3287
02:47:29.120 --> 02:47:32.680
<v Speaker 2>how how it could be what First I thought that

3288
02:47:32.760 --> 02:47:34.600
<v Speaker 2>you were saying that God was the one, he was

3289
02:47:34.639 --> 02:47:36.879
<v Speaker 2>the living Word, and it's being changed through God. But

3290
02:47:36.959 --> 02:47:39.200
<v Speaker 2>you're then you kind of said that you know that

3291
02:47:39.319 --> 02:47:42.360
<v Speaker 2>God is essentially allowing the devil to change up scripture.

3292
02:47:42.920 --> 02:47:45.280
<v Speaker 2>So with that being said, if that, if that is

3293
02:47:45.319 --> 02:47:48.159
<v Speaker 2>your true belief, is the scripture now tainted because the

3294
02:47:48.200 --> 02:47:49.399
<v Speaker 2>devil has put his hands on it?

3295
02:47:51.239 --> 02:47:51.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

3296
02:47:52.719 --> 02:47:53.879
<v Speaker 1>And therefore, how.

3297
02:47:53.840 --> 02:47:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Do we know that there hasn't been millennia of changes

3298
02:47:57.639 --> 02:48:00.319
<v Speaker 2>throughout the throughout the Bible, that the devil hasn't already

3299
02:48:00.360 --> 02:48:03.399
<v Speaker 2>tainted that we just hasn't haven't caught onto yet because

3300
02:48:03.440 --> 02:48:06.040
<v Speaker 2>we weren't alive at that point in time. You know,

3301
02:48:06.200 --> 02:48:08.760
<v Speaker 2>maybe the people back in sixteen hundred or fifteen hundred

3302
02:48:08.799 --> 02:48:11.360
<v Speaker 2>or in the year eight hundred or whatever, maybe they

3303
02:48:11.399 --> 02:48:14.760
<v Speaker 2>all remember, you know, a specific Bible verse. Right, But

3304
02:48:14.879 --> 02:48:16.799
<v Speaker 2>then you take those people from the year eight hundred

3305
02:48:16.799 --> 02:48:18.600
<v Speaker 2>and you drop him in the year twenty twenty four

3306
02:48:18.639 --> 02:48:20.479
<v Speaker 2>and they start reading the Bible and they look at

3307
02:48:20.520 --> 02:48:24.239
<v Speaker 2>it and they say, whoa, there's been so much change.

3308
02:48:24.239 --> 02:48:26.000
<v Speaker 2>I would imagine that's a possibility as well.

3309
02:48:26.120 --> 02:48:30.000
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, this is really causing us to question the

3310
02:48:30.120 --> 02:48:32.840
<v Speaker 3>canon a lot of things. And you know, what's what

3311
02:48:32.959 --> 02:48:36.360
<v Speaker 3>it's really doing is it's really making us realize that

3312
02:48:36.520 --> 02:48:38.959
<v Speaker 3>we had made an idol out of the Bible. I

3313
02:48:39.079 --> 02:48:44.559
<v Speaker 3>just did a talk on that. I can't remember what

3314
02:48:44.600 --> 02:48:49.360
<v Speaker 3>it's called, but biblical idolatry, where we exchange head knowledge

3315
02:48:49.440 --> 02:48:53.360
<v Speaker 3>for a relationship like the Pharisees, is perfect picture. Jesus

3316
02:48:53.520 --> 02:48:55.959
<v Speaker 3>was God. He showed up, and the Pharisees didn't recognize

3317
02:48:56.000 --> 02:48:58.360
<v Speaker 3>God was right there in front of him. And you know,

3318
02:48:58.559 --> 02:49:02.440
<v Speaker 3>they were devout though they were very learned, and they

3319
02:49:02.520 --> 02:49:05.319
<v Speaker 3>were like, you know, trying to.

3320
02:49:05.360 --> 02:49:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Kill Jesus, right, And he even said, like, y'all are

3321
02:49:08.360 --> 02:49:10.600
<v Speaker 1>so sanctified y'all even tie the tenth out of your

3322
02:49:10.639 --> 02:49:13.479
<v Speaker 1>spicy guard. Yeah, dude, you're like, y'a are those Holy rollers?

3323
02:49:14.280 --> 02:49:17.920
<v Speaker 3>Yep. So knowledge is you can't know God with your head.

3324
02:49:18.200 --> 02:49:22.319
<v Speaker 3>This is a relational thing, agreed, So taking the Bible,

3325
02:49:22.360 --> 02:49:24.799
<v Speaker 3>because what happens is with a lot of people included

3326
02:49:25.399 --> 02:49:29.479
<v Speaker 3>was we it's easier to say, oh, I'm going to

3327
02:49:29.559 --> 02:49:31.799
<v Speaker 3>the Bible study, I'm in the game. God knows them

3328
02:49:31.840 --> 02:49:34.319
<v Speaker 3>in the game. But you know, you're living with somebody.

3329
02:49:34.479 --> 02:49:37.719
<v Speaker 3>You know, you've got all these things in your life

3330
02:49:37.719 --> 02:49:39.920
<v Speaker 3>which you know are displeasing him and you're not dealing

3331
02:49:39.959 --> 02:49:42.920
<v Speaker 3>with him. But but you're busy with Christian activities, so

3332
02:49:43.040 --> 02:49:47.799
<v Speaker 3>you figure that's that's enough. But Jesus talked about people.

3333
02:49:48.680 --> 02:49:51.239
<v Speaker 3>He said, your heart is you honor me with your lips,

3334
02:49:51.280 --> 02:49:53.959
<v Speaker 3>but your heart is far from me. So this is

3335
02:49:54.000 --> 02:49:57.120
<v Speaker 3>a relational thing. And this, this Mendelifick thing is really

3336
02:49:57.639 --> 02:49:59.600
<v Speaker 3>causing a lot of us to front slide. It's not

3337
02:49:59.719 --> 02:50:00.719
<v Speaker 3>making us backslot.

3338
02:50:01.559 --> 02:50:03.360
<v Speaker 1>No, I could agree with that for sure. I believe

3339
02:50:03.399 --> 02:50:06.840
<v Speaker 1>that it is a relational thing. And while yes, also

3340
02:50:07.000 --> 02:50:09.639
<v Speaker 1>what Jesus was telling to those Pharisees was this this

3341
02:50:09.840 --> 02:50:13.280
<v Speaker 1>hunt for useless knowledge, this never ending quest for this,

3342
02:50:13.879 --> 02:50:16.680
<v Speaker 1>all this knowledge that you just know so deeply. Y'all

3343
02:50:16.760 --> 02:50:20.159
<v Speaker 1>understand it really doesn't matter, right, Like it's not. It

3344
02:50:20.280 --> 02:50:22.639
<v Speaker 1>is nothing to devote all this much of your life

3345
02:50:22.639 --> 02:50:24.319
<v Speaker 1>about when you could be devoting it to, you know,

3346
02:50:24.719 --> 02:50:27.840
<v Speaker 1>helping the poor and helping your people. I don't know,

3347
02:50:28.319 --> 02:50:30.399
<v Speaker 1>maybe you know, shepherding your flock.

3348
02:50:31.520 --> 02:50:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, man, you know, call me crazy, but this only

3349
02:50:36.040 --> 02:50:38.639
<v Speaker 2>further proves my point that it doesn't matter if it

3350
02:50:38.760 --> 02:50:41.600
<v Speaker 2>happened or not. Now follow me on this, okay. So,

3351
02:50:42.120 --> 02:50:44.959
<v Speaker 2>so if if if the Bible is saying one thing

3352
02:50:45.040 --> 02:50:48.000
<v Speaker 2>and it goes against your memory, right, but you hold

3353
02:50:48.200 --> 02:50:50.479
<v Speaker 2>what's in your memory to be profound and true and

3354
02:50:50.760 --> 02:50:53.319
<v Speaker 2>and it's full of gold and it's it's actual God's word.

3355
02:50:53.360 --> 02:50:54.559
<v Speaker 2>But then you go and look in the Bible and

3356
02:50:54.600 --> 02:50:57.040
<v Speaker 2>it's like no, no, no, no, you were wrong. Actually

3357
02:50:57.159 --> 02:51:01.000
<v Speaker 2>you're misremembering that. Let's just say that there's those people right. Well,

3358
02:51:01.040 --> 02:51:03.079
<v Speaker 2>now if you're going back in there and now, it

3359
02:51:03.159 --> 02:51:06.280
<v Speaker 2>doesn't really matter what the Bible says, because it's your

3360
02:51:06.399 --> 02:51:10.639
<v Speaker 2>memory of what that thing says. So in essence, if

3361
02:51:11.000 --> 02:51:14.639
<v Speaker 2>if Noah really was a guy, and there really was

3362
02:51:14.680 --> 02:51:17.239
<v Speaker 2>a flood and he really collected two of every animal? Sure,

3363
02:51:17.920 --> 02:51:21.440
<v Speaker 2>then it doesn't matter if if if he actually did

3364
02:51:21.479 --> 02:51:23.719
<v Speaker 2>it or not. It's more of the moral behind the story,

3365
02:51:24.159 --> 02:51:27.120
<v Speaker 2>because I mean, how crazy would it be that we

3366
02:51:27.559 --> 02:51:30.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, throughout the throughout the years, like moving forward,

3367
02:51:30.760 --> 02:51:32.840
<v Speaker 2>that you know, then we we catch on to a

3368
02:51:32.920 --> 02:51:36.200
<v Speaker 2>new Mandela effect and it's like, oh, Noah, you know, Noah,

3369
02:51:36.239 --> 02:51:38.639
<v Speaker 2>didn't you know he didn't collect two of every animal?

3370
02:51:38.879 --> 02:51:41.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe it was just one. Well, now does

3371
02:51:41.159 --> 02:51:44.440
<v Speaker 1>that matter? Yeah, that matters because then they couldn't reproduce.

3372
02:51:44.799 --> 02:51:48.200
<v Speaker 2>That's what you'd think, right, So I don't know, it's

3373
02:51:48.319 --> 02:51:49.520
<v Speaker 2>just a weird, a weird thought.

3374
02:51:50.479 --> 02:51:51.440
<v Speaker 1>No, but I hear your point.

3375
02:51:52.280 --> 02:51:57.040
<v Speaker 3>The theological and the doctrinal ramifications of the Bible being

3376
02:51:57.159 --> 02:52:00.639
<v Speaker 3>covertly fiddled with by the devil are a line bending

3377
02:52:01.079 --> 02:52:04.760
<v Speaker 3>And I mean, I certainly don't have a lot of answers.

3378
02:52:04.920 --> 02:52:07.959
<v Speaker 3>All I'm doing is reporting that it's happening and showing

3379
02:52:08.079 --> 02:52:11.360
<v Speaker 3>the evidences that are so obvious. And this has been

3380
02:52:11.440 --> 02:52:14.200
<v Speaker 3>my track for the last seven years my YouTube channels

3381
02:52:14.239 --> 02:52:17.680
<v Speaker 3>wake Up or Else, and I provide a biblical analysis

3382
02:52:17.719 --> 02:52:18.760
<v Speaker 3>of the Mandel effect.

3383
02:52:19.120 --> 02:52:21.639
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask my wake up as you're talking about

3384
02:52:21.639 --> 02:52:24.559
<v Speaker 1>this wake up call, and you're finding the discrepancies. The

3385
02:52:24.680 --> 02:52:28.680
<v Speaker 1>discrepancies that you have found, have they been inherently negative?

3386
02:52:31.120 --> 02:52:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Now that's my point.

3387
02:52:32.360 --> 02:52:35.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean when you say discrepancies, you mean when we

3388
02:52:35.479 --> 02:52:38.399
<v Speaker 3>find something in our bibles that we believe has been

3389
02:52:38.520 --> 02:52:41.319
<v Speaker 3>supernaturally changed. Is that what you mean by a discrepancy?

3390
02:52:41.559 --> 02:52:43.920
<v Speaker 1>For example, bear with me, and I'm not coming at you,

3391
02:52:44.000 --> 02:52:46.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm genuinely asking as it because you have done some

3392
02:52:46.959 --> 02:52:49.440
<v Speaker 1>deep dives you have found fifty examples in all, I'm

3393
02:52:49.479 --> 02:52:53.799
<v Speaker 1>with you one thousand percent sweet. So with that, for example,

3394
02:52:53.879 --> 02:52:57.079
<v Speaker 1>the line and the wolf, okay, the fact that people

3395
02:52:57.120 --> 02:53:00.879
<v Speaker 1>are misremembering or that the Mandela effect has truly happened

3396
02:53:01.239 --> 02:53:03.440
<v Speaker 1>and it is the wolf even though it used to

3397
02:53:03.520 --> 02:53:07.479
<v Speaker 1>be the lion or some version thereof. Does it change

3398
02:53:07.799 --> 02:53:10.040
<v Speaker 1>the story? Does it change which is supposed to show

3399
02:53:10.120 --> 02:53:13.120
<v Speaker 1>for the passage? Why because it's a predatory animal and

3400
02:53:13.239 --> 02:53:15.719
<v Speaker 1>it's seen in that way? Does that matter? And does

3401
02:53:15.760 --> 02:53:16.959
<v Speaker 1>it detract from the point?

3402
02:53:17.520 --> 02:53:21.239
<v Speaker 3>Yes, some some changes are subtle okay in how they

3403
02:53:21.319 --> 02:53:25.239
<v Speaker 3>impact doctrine. But others are not subtle okay. And there's themes,

3404
02:53:25.440 --> 02:53:30.280
<v Speaker 3>like you know, we're seeing themes of vulgarity or themes

3405
02:53:30.959 --> 02:53:34.120
<v Speaker 3>of things that are inconsistent with the character of God.

3406
02:53:34.280 --> 02:53:38.479
<v Speaker 3>Like one of the things we find out is the

3407
02:53:38.639 --> 02:53:42.319
<v Speaker 3>character of God. Yeah, like this one is Mark eight

3408
02:53:42.479 --> 02:53:45.959
<v Speaker 3>twenty three says, and he took the blind man by

3409
02:53:46.000 --> 02:53:48.479
<v Speaker 3>the hand and led him out of the town. I'll

3410
02:53:48.520 --> 02:53:54.399
<v Speaker 3>let you pull it up, Mark eight twenty three, gotcha, dough, yep.

3411
02:53:54.479 --> 02:53:56.479
<v Speaker 3>So it's a good question. This is you know, what

3412
02:53:56.600 --> 02:54:02.920
<v Speaker 3>we're calling biblical paradoxes. Yeah, which seemed to run contrary

3413
02:54:03.040 --> 02:54:06.319
<v Speaker 3>to who we have always known God to be.

3414
02:54:06.760 --> 02:54:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so here we go, Matthew, or excuse me, Mark

3415
02:54:09.680 --> 02:54:12.520
<v Speaker 1>eight twenty three, King James, Version twenty three. Right, and

3416
02:54:12.600 --> 02:54:14.280
<v Speaker 1>he took the blind man by the hand and led

3417
02:54:14.360 --> 02:54:16.360
<v Speaker 1>him out into the out of the town. And when

3418
02:54:16.440 --> 02:54:19.559
<v Speaker 1>he had spit on his eyes and put his hands

3419
02:54:19.719 --> 02:54:22.440
<v Speaker 1>upon him, he asked him if he saw aught.

3420
02:54:22.760 --> 02:54:26.559
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so stop right there. So again, there's two aspects

3421
02:54:26.600 --> 02:54:28.879
<v Speaker 3>of this. There's the fact that I could ask twenty

3422
02:54:29.000 --> 02:54:33.360
<v Speaker 3>pastors right now, Okay, hey, pastor, in your memory, Jesus

3423
02:54:34.000 --> 02:54:37.000
<v Speaker 3>spit in the ground and made mud, and then he

3424
02:54:37.159 --> 02:54:39.319
<v Speaker 3>healed the guy. You remember that, Yeah, I remember that.

3425
02:54:39.799 --> 02:54:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Do you ever remember him spitting directly in a guy's

3426
02:54:43.040 --> 02:54:46.520
<v Speaker 3>face to him. No oh, no, no, why out of

3427
02:54:46.639 --> 02:54:49.319
<v Speaker 3>twenty will tell me? No, Oh, I could have told

3428
02:54:49.360 --> 02:54:50.120
<v Speaker 3>you this part, brother.

3429
02:54:50.280 --> 02:54:52.440
<v Speaker 1>No, Jesus drew into the dirt when it came to

3430
02:54:52.559 --> 02:54:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Mary Magdalene and drawing out certain things of showing everybody

3431
02:54:55.280 --> 02:54:57.680
<v Speaker 1>their own sin when he was talking about you cast

3432
02:54:57.760 --> 02:54:59.799
<v Speaker 1>the first stone. As far as the blind, do know

3433
02:54:59.840 --> 02:55:02.440
<v Speaker 1>that straight spit. I've never heard anything about dirt he

3434
02:55:02.600 --> 02:55:04.840
<v Speaker 1>spit in his eyes. Yeah, and then he touched it

3435
02:55:04.879 --> 02:55:05.399
<v Speaker 1>with his hands.

3436
02:55:05.639 --> 02:55:09.920
<v Speaker 3>No, you're the first person I've ever met really remember. Yes, Oh,

3437
02:55:10.040 --> 02:55:15.159
<v Speaker 3>everybody else in the world except you remember Jesus spitting

3438
02:55:15.239 --> 02:55:15.840
<v Speaker 3>in the dirt.

3439
02:55:16.120 --> 02:55:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay, maybe maybe I am the outlier on this one, brother,

3440
02:55:19.319 --> 02:55:21.799
<v Speaker 1>because I really did remember just straight spit to the eyeball.

3441
02:55:22.559 --> 02:55:25.079
<v Speaker 3>So so what we see now disrespectful.

3442
02:55:25.159 --> 02:55:27.159
<v Speaker 1>That's why it jarred me. That's why it remember. I

3443
02:55:27.280 --> 02:55:29.079
<v Speaker 1>remember this when I first I was like in middle

3444
02:55:29.079 --> 02:55:30.280
<v Speaker 1>school when I first read that, and I was like,

3445
02:55:30.280 --> 02:55:32.760
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, Jesus sure spat in the dude's face,

3446
02:55:32.799 --> 02:55:35.760
<v Speaker 1>because I remember that so knee jerky, because my dad

3447
02:55:35.799 --> 02:55:38.600
<v Speaker 1>gave me permission to absolutely stomp a kid's head in

3448
02:55:38.760 --> 02:55:40.399
<v Speaker 1>if they ever spat in my face. That was like

3449
02:55:40.479 --> 02:55:43.079
<v Speaker 1>the one time my dad was like, nah, just get

3450
02:55:43.120 --> 02:55:45.520
<v Speaker 1>after it. I'll handle the legal ramification. So I was like,

3451
02:55:46.079 --> 02:55:49.520
<v Speaker 1>that's a whole insult to never be done. So when

3452
02:55:49.559 --> 02:55:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I read that in the Bible, I was like, wait

3453
02:55:51.280 --> 02:55:54.600
<v Speaker 1>what But yeah, so I do remember this one in particular.

3454
02:55:54.719 --> 02:55:57.159
<v Speaker 1>But again, maybe that's just because I'm an outlier that

3455
02:55:57.239 --> 02:55:58.559
<v Speaker 1>had like a core memory for that.

3456
02:55:58.719 --> 02:55:59.079
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

3457
02:55:59.280 --> 02:56:01.280
<v Speaker 1>So why is it seen nowadays?

3458
02:56:01.559 --> 02:56:04.159
<v Speaker 2>As you know, spinning in somebody's face is like the

3459
02:56:04.239 --> 02:56:05.959
<v Speaker 2>most disrespectful thing you could possibly do.

3460
02:56:06.040 --> 02:56:09.200
<v Speaker 1>But Jesus fucking healed somebody with that. Well, there's reasons

3461
02:56:09.280 --> 02:56:12.000
<v Speaker 1>for that. There's germs that happened because of this. Jesus was,

3462
02:56:12.079 --> 02:56:13.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, the son of God. There's a reason. But

3463
02:56:13.600 --> 02:56:16.760
<v Speaker 1>my point is to his point, if all these pastors

3464
02:56:16.840 --> 02:56:19.479
<v Speaker 1>remember Jesus spitting in the dirt and making mud and

3465
02:56:19.600 --> 02:56:22.760
<v Speaker 1>putting mud in the dude's eyes, yeah, that's a different story. However,

3466
02:56:23.239 --> 02:56:25.319
<v Speaker 1>does it detract from the fact that Jesus healed a

3467
02:56:25.399 --> 02:56:25.920
<v Speaker 1>blind man?

3468
02:56:28.280 --> 02:56:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it detracts because what's happening is the Bible is changing.

3469
02:56:35.319 --> 02:56:37.959
<v Speaker 1>Jesus healed the blind that's the moral of that. He

3470
02:56:38.200 --> 02:56:39.239
<v Speaker 1>performed a miracle.

3471
02:56:40.159 --> 02:56:42.520
<v Speaker 3>But it's like there's a home invasion. This is what

3472
02:56:42.680 --> 02:56:46.879
<v Speaker 3>it's like. It's like you're watching a movie with your family. Yeah,

3473
02:56:47.000 --> 02:56:49.840
<v Speaker 3>and then two guys kick in the door to the

3474
02:56:49.879 --> 02:56:53.120
<v Speaker 3>sun room where you are, and you look back and

3475
02:56:53.159 --> 02:56:56.079
<v Speaker 3>you go, oh wow, and then you just turn around

3476
02:56:56.079 --> 02:56:58.799
<v Speaker 3>and keep watching your movie. So pastors will tell me why,

3477
02:56:58.799 --> 02:57:01.000
<v Speaker 3>I just want to focus on winning souls. I'm like,

3478
02:57:01.079 --> 02:57:03.479
<v Speaker 3>your house is on fire. You can't just ignore the

3479
02:57:03.600 --> 02:57:08.559
<v Speaker 3>fact that there's passages in your Bible, like twenty of them.

3480
02:57:08.799 --> 02:57:11.159
<v Speaker 3>I can pull up, you know, and stump you twenty

3481
02:57:11.239 --> 02:57:14.079
<v Speaker 3>times in a row and you've never seen him before.

3482
02:57:14.719 --> 02:57:16.959
<v Speaker 3>That's to stop the press is the moment? Okay, that

3483
02:57:17.159 --> 02:57:20.120
<v Speaker 3>is an earth shattering five alarm, knock you off your

3484
02:57:20.239 --> 02:57:24.760
<v Speaker 3>chair event agreed that you that you cannot brush under

3485
02:57:24.799 --> 02:57:27.200
<v Speaker 3>the rug somehow no, which you don't want it to

3486
02:57:27.239 --> 02:57:32.159
<v Speaker 3>be true, right, So you know what we what we

3487
02:57:32.319 --> 02:57:35.440
<v Speaker 3>are saying is that it's not good news. It's the

3488
02:57:35.559 --> 02:57:39.680
<v Speaker 3>most disruptive thing to happen to the church, like in

3489
02:57:39.760 --> 02:57:43.159
<v Speaker 3>the entire church age next to Jesus coming, and the

3490
02:57:43.440 --> 02:57:46.879
<v Speaker 3>majority of church is ignoring it. For most people don't

3491
02:57:46.959 --> 02:57:49.959
<v Speaker 3>know what's happening, which is staggering. And then the ones

3492
02:57:50.000 --> 02:57:52.840
<v Speaker 3>that do you know, blow us off like we're heretics.

3493
02:57:54.200 --> 02:57:58.520
<v Speaker 2>It's a weird thing to to know that, like Jesus

3494
02:57:58.639 --> 02:58:01.639
<v Speaker 2>spit in somebody's eyes to heal them of blindness, Like

3495
02:58:01.799 --> 02:58:06.120
<v Speaker 2>that's that that is kind of a staggering thing. That's like, Jacob, imagine,

3496
02:58:06.239 --> 02:58:08.520
<v Speaker 2>imagine Jesus comes to you and like, let's say your

3497
02:58:08.559 --> 02:58:11.840
<v Speaker 2>wife has like aids, God forbid, right, and he's he's like,

3498
02:58:11.959 --> 02:58:15.159
<v Speaker 2>he's like yo, Jacob, like, uh, you know, I see

3499
02:58:15.200 --> 02:58:15.959
<v Speaker 2>your wife got aids.

3500
02:58:16.000 --> 02:58:19.239
<v Speaker 1>You want to get rid of that? And you're all please, please, right,

3501
02:58:19.680 --> 02:58:20.280
<v Speaker 1>and he's.

3502
02:58:20.159 --> 02:58:22.959
<v Speaker 2>All all right, you gotta fuck you gotta let me

3503
02:58:23.040 --> 02:58:26.200
<v Speaker 2>lay one honor first. And you'd be like, what are

3504
02:58:26.280 --> 02:58:28.959
<v Speaker 2>you talking about, dude, Like you're not gonna heal my

3505
02:58:29.079 --> 02:58:30.280
<v Speaker 2>wife by laying one honor.

3506
02:58:30.479 --> 02:58:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Once again, we are going supertty, duper contrived. I don't

3507
02:58:33.239 --> 02:58:36.079
<v Speaker 1>believe Jesus putting mud versus spitting in his face are

3508
02:58:36.319 --> 02:58:39.440
<v Speaker 1>is the same equivalent to gentlemen kicking in your front

3509
02:58:39.479 --> 02:58:42.440
<v Speaker 1>doors you're chilling, and or Jesus trying to hook up

3510
02:58:42.440 --> 02:58:44.399
<v Speaker 1>with your wife. I don't believe that these are one

3511
02:58:44.440 --> 02:58:45.200
<v Speaker 1>to one compared.

3512
02:58:45.280 --> 02:58:47.559
<v Speaker 2>But it's that much of a it's that much of

3513
02:58:47.639 --> 02:58:49.360
<v Speaker 2>a shock and off factor, is what I'm saying.

3514
02:58:49.520 --> 02:58:52.239
<v Speaker 1>No, No, I hear it, and I absolutely with him that, like,

3515
02:58:52.360 --> 02:58:54.079
<v Speaker 1>there are certain things that these people should be able

3516
02:58:54.120 --> 02:58:57.559
<v Speaker 1>to recite off very clearly, and if they don't know it, agreed,

3517
02:58:57.920 --> 02:58:59.760
<v Speaker 1>we should be. We should be pumping the brakes here,

3518
02:59:00.159 --> 02:59:02.399
<v Speaker 1>and the people who are preaching these words should in

3519
02:59:02.479 --> 02:59:05.120
<v Speaker 1>fact be masters of these words. This is actually a

3520
02:59:05.159 --> 02:59:07.639
<v Speaker 1>portion of the reason why I shut down the Prophecy Playbook,

3521
02:59:08.040 --> 02:59:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Like I started that podcast up and then I shut

3522
02:59:09.959 --> 02:59:12.959
<v Speaker 1>it down almost immediately because I realized I am not

3523
02:59:13.120 --> 02:59:16.280
<v Speaker 1>qualified to speak on behalf of any biblical knowledge. And

3524
02:59:16.360 --> 02:59:18.399
<v Speaker 1>that's just a me thing. I'm not saying anybody is

3525
02:59:18.520 --> 02:59:20.399
<v Speaker 1>or is it. I'm not here to throw judgment at

3526
02:59:20.479 --> 02:59:24.959
<v Speaker 1>anybody except myself, all right, and I identified myself as

3527
02:59:25.360 --> 02:59:27.680
<v Speaker 1>not well versed enough to do it in that manner.

3528
02:59:27.719 --> 02:59:28.000
<v Speaker 3>All right.

3529
02:59:28.079 --> 02:59:30.719
<v Speaker 2>So Jacob, you have somebody who is like who you

3530
02:59:30.879 --> 02:59:33.360
<v Speaker 2>look up to, right, that's like super super super well

3531
02:59:33.479 --> 02:59:35.319
<v Speaker 2>versed in this right in the Bible?

3532
02:59:35.799 --> 02:59:36.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like you right?

3533
02:59:37.000 --> 02:59:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Fortunately know, right, is it possible that we'd be able

3534
02:59:39.719 --> 02:59:41.600
<v Speaker 2>to get one of your home boys or Homegirls on

3535
02:59:41.760 --> 02:59:46.479
<v Speaker 2>that's very very you know, understanding and has a solid

3536
02:59:46.520 --> 02:59:48.440
<v Speaker 2>memory about what's going on the Bible. Then we get

3537
02:59:48.520 --> 02:59:51.399
<v Speaker 2>John back on the show and let's really test this.

3538
02:59:52.079 --> 02:59:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I'm just saying that would further prove the

3539
02:59:56.120 --> 02:59:58.639
<v Speaker 2>point that the Bible is definitely being messed with.

3540
02:59:58.920 --> 03:00:01.760
<v Speaker 1>It's possible that I could have a family member who

3541
03:00:01.879 --> 03:00:05.760
<v Speaker 1>is actually a pastor. I would have to see if he's.

3542
03:00:05.639 --> 03:00:06.079
<v Speaker 5>Down with it.

3543
03:00:06.479 --> 03:00:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I would love this.

3544
03:00:10.440 --> 03:00:12.280
<v Speaker 3>I would love how fun it would be.

3545
03:00:13.000 --> 03:00:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Not for him, but he's also got a really good

3546
03:00:15.879 --> 03:00:19.600
<v Speaker 1>sense of humor. This is kind of like, what is

3547
03:00:19.680 --> 03:00:20.000
<v Speaker 1>this like?

3548
03:00:20.399 --> 03:00:24.559
<v Speaker 3>You know, It's like, you know, in the in the France,

3549
03:00:24.879 --> 03:00:28.879
<v Speaker 3>if I was at a very dignified party and some

3550
03:00:29.120 --> 03:00:32.040
<v Speaker 3>guy insulted my wife and I would like challenge him

3551
03:00:32.079 --> 03:00:35.920
<v Speaker 3>to a duel. You know, hell, you know. The the

3552
03:00:36.239 --> 03:00:40.760
<v Speaker 3>general response to this is indignation that we are attacking

3553
03:00:40.920 --> 03:00:44.000
<v Speaker 3>God and we're calling God a liar. But it's based

3554
03:00:44.079 --> 03:00:47.760
<v Speaker 3>on a false doctrine that the Bible can't change. So

3555
03:00:48.120 --> 03:00:51.200
<v Speaker 3>essentially you draw the conclusion, well, if if the scriptures

3556
03:00:51.200 --> 03:00:56.479
<v Speaker 3>are inspired, that means that they're sacrisanct, which doesn't mean

3557
03:00:56.559 --> 03:01:00.680
<v Speaker 3>that Okay, In other words, if it's God breathed wrote

3558
03:01:00.719 --> 03:01:03.479
<v Speaker 3>the Bible three men, then the devil doesn't have that

3559
03:01:03.600 --> 03:01:06.040
<v Speaker 3>much power to change them. But you don't know your Bible,

3560
03:01:06.079 --> 03:01:10.559
<v Speaker 3>because Revelation thirteen says that God gives the devil power

3561
03:01:10.799 --> 03:01:15.520
<v Speaker 3>and authority, that's permission and the power to wage war

3562
03:01:15.600 --> 03:01:18.920
<v Speaker 3>against the Saints and to prevail against them. Correct. And

3563
03:01:18.959 --> 03:01:23.600
<v Speaker 3>then Revelation twenty two says, seal not the words of

3564
03:01:23.680 --> 03:01:26.440
<v Speaker 3>the prophecy seal is a word that means a mark

3565
03:01:27.239 --> 03:01:30.239
<v Speaker 3>as to protect from Satan. Then the next thing it

3566
03:01:30.319 --> 03:01:35.280
<v Speaker 3>says is not so that means what that's saying is

3567
03:01:35.639 --> 03:01:40.840
<v Speaker 3>protect from Satan. Not the prophecies do not protect the

3568
03:01:40.920 --> 03:01:46.360
<v Speaker 3>Bible from Satan. So over in Daniel chapter twelve, seal

3569
03:01:46.520 --> 03:01:49.079
<v Speaker 3>up the words until the time of the end. That's

3570
03:01:49.200 --> 03:01:52.920
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty four. Seal up the words is protect them

3571
03:01:53.639 --> 03:01:59.479
<v Speaker 3>until Revelation twenty two. Okay, don't protect them. It's right

3572
03:01:59.559 --> 03:02:04.280
<v Speaker 3>there Daniel seven twenty five. The devil will be able

3573
03:02:04.399 --> 03:02:07.719
<v Speaker 3>to change space, time, and the Bible because the word

3574
03:02:08.200 --> 03:02:13.559
<v Speaker 3>that is interpreted laws is also interpreted in the same

3575
03:02:14.000 --> 03:02:18.879
<v Speaker 3>original word in Ezra seven is translated the law of God.

3576
03:02:19.319 --> 03:02:21.959
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this now is they're talking about translations.

3577
03:02:23.879 --> 03:02:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this. The word seal, the Hebrew

3578
03:02:27.239 --> 03:02:30.799
<v Speaker 1>word for seal. Can you say that verse again real quick,

3579
03:02:30.959 --> 03:02:33.319
<v Speaker 1>just to see what this sounds like. Use the word

3580
03:02:33.479 --> 03:02:39.280
<v Speaker 1>finish instead of seal. Finish the verse you just read

3581
03:02:40.040 --> 03:02:41.920
<v Speaker 1>with don't seal the prophecies?

3582
03:02:42.200 --> 03:02:45.239
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, it says seal, not so finish not the

3583
03:02:45.760 --> 03:02:46.680
<v Speaker 3>words of the prophecy.

3584
03:02:49.159 --> 03:02:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Interesting because that's another one sign sign on seal, finish, close, shut, obstruct,

3585
03:02:57.239 --> 03:02:59.920
<v Speaker 1>All these are other words for the Hebrew word for seal.

3586
03:03:00.159 --> 03:03:04.639
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. Huh damn, Now, finish it. I don't believe

3587
03:03:04.639 --> 03:03:06.600
<v Speaker 1>that that's a convert No, I don't believe that that's

3588
03:03:06.639 --> 03:03:11.079
<v Speaker 1>this because everything else talks about closing, obstructing, shutting. There

3589
03:03:11.200 --> 03:03:13.959
<v Speaker 1>is like a seven out of eight possibility that this

3590
03:03:14.159 --> 03:03:17.000
<v Speaker 1>means exactly seal, as in to shut it or to

3591
03:03:17.680 --> 03:03:21.360
<v Speaker 1>obstruct it, or to fit or close it, if you will.

3592
03:03:22.159 --> 03:03:24.959
<v Speaker 1>But also, that's interesting. I didn't know finish was another one.

3593
03:03:25.319 --> 03:03:26.920
<v Speaker 1>So John, I do have a question for you.

3594
03:03:26.959 --> 03:03:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Whenever you're talking about the devil here and a lot

3595
03:03:29.559 --> 03:03:33.440
<v Speaker 2>of people interpret this many different ways, but whenever you

3596
03:03:33.600 --> 03:03:37.719
<v Speaker 2>speak of Satan, the devil, the morning star, Lucifer. Are

3597
03:03:37.799 --> 03:03:41.719
<v Speaker 2>all of these the same entity, the same person in question?

3598
03:03:42.120 --> 03:03:43.319
<v Speaker 1>What do you what does that mean to you?

3599
03:03:43.639 --> 03:03:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Man? Does that dude ever have a lot of names?

3600
03:03:45.799 --> 03:03:48.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean he has gone under a thousand different names

3601
03:03:48.799 --> 03:03:49.559
<v Speaker 3>throughout history.

3602
03:03:49.680 --> 03:03:50.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so same guy.

3603
03:03:51.840 --> 03:03:57.200
<v Speaker 3>Apparently, this this dude Lucifer, the Sun of the morning,

3604
03:03:58.600 --> 03:04:02.440
<v Speaker 3>Star of the Morning, I forget the anointed chair that

3605
03:04:02.600 --> 03:04:04.760
<v Speaker 3>covers That's what I wanted to call him. So that's

3606
03:04:05.120 --> 03:04:07.520
<v Speaker 3>what he's referred to. And the Bible describes him in

3607
03:04:07.559 --> 03:04:10.440
<v Speaker 3>Ezekiel that his body was made of instruments. He had

3608
03:04:10.600 --> 03:04:14.040
<v Speaker 3>vials and harps in his body. So apparently he was

3609
03:04:14.120 --> 03:04:18.799
<v Speaker 3>like the worship leader of the throne. And what happened was,

3610
03:04:19.200 --> 03:04:21.719
<v Speaker 3>he's up front. I've been up there, I've led worship

3611
03:04:21.760 --> 03:04:24.239
<v Speaker 3>for years, and all the people are like looking at me.

3612
03:04:24.399 --> 03:04:24.559
<v Speaker 3>You know.

3613
03:04:24.799 --> 03:04:27.600
<v Speaker 1>He was the lead singer of Heaven Dog totally.

3614
03:04:28.120 --> 03:04:31.120
<v Speaker 3>And so you know what we assume is that he

3615
03:04:31.399 --> 03:04:34.639
<v Speaker 3>got looked in the mirror too much, because you got Isaiah,

3616
03:04:34.799 --> 03:04:37.280
<v Speaker 3>the five eyes, I will send to the hills of

3617
03:04:37.319 --> 03:04:39.879
<v Speaker 3>the north. I will be like the most tie. I

3618
03:04:39.959 --> 03:04:41.879
<v Speaker 3>will walk him on the stones of fire. He got

3619
03:04:41.920 --> 03:04:44.399
<v Speaker 3>lifted up in pride, and he was like God's not

3620
03:04:44.520 --> 03:04:47.000
<v Speaker 3>all that. I got some stuff going on. I'm gonna get,

3621
03:04:47.079 --> 03:04:49.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, I should get some worship. And I guess

3622
03:04:49.680 --> 03:04:53.440
<v Speaker 3>he convinced a third of the angels to follow him. Yeah,

3623
03:04:53.440 --> 03:04:54.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean he must be awesome.

3624
03:04:54.680 --> 03:04:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Man, he's just completely well the great deceiver. Whoo.

3625
03:04:59.520 --> 03:05:01.639
<v Speaker 3>But he's got some creds man. Yeah.

3626
03:05:01.920 --> 03:05:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Boys, when nobody knows the Bible better than Satan, I

3627
03:05:04.959 --> 03:05:07.959
<v Speaker 1>promise the reason why because he knows how the story ends.

3628
03:05:08.040 --> 03:05:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Brother, Well, the reason I bring that up, especially the

3629
03:05:10.440 --> 03:05:13.239
<v Speaker 2>morning star part, because even in the Bible it does

3630
03:05:13.760 --> 03:05:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Jesus is referenced as the morning Star.

3631
03:05:15.879 --> 03:05:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Also, I looked at that. I know what you mean.

3632
03:05:22.079 --> 03:05:25.760
<v Speaker 3>I can't remember now that star of the morning. I

3633
03:05:25.879 --> 03:05:27.799
<v Speaker 3>can't remember now, I know what you mean. There's a

3634
03:05:27.920 --> 03:05:31.239
<v Speaker 3>reference there to Satan and Jesus that are similar, but

3635
03:05:31.319 --> 03:05:34.280
<v Speaker 3>they're not the same, as I recall. I'd have to

3636
03:05:34.360 --> 03:05:34.799
<v Speaker 3>look it up.

3637
03:05:35.000 --> 03:05:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, Yeah, I just I was, you know,

3638
03:05:37.280 --> 03:05:39.680
<v Speaker 2>wanted to poke around your brain in there for a minute, because.

3639
03:05:39.520 --> 03:05:43.600
<v Speaker 3>I know there is a theory. Okay. In fact, Luciferianism

3640
03:05:44.239 --> 03:05:47.079
<v Speaker 3>costlates that the devil really is the good guy, and

3641
03:05:47.680 --> 03:05:50.479
<v Speaker 3>God the Father is the bad guy, and that ultimately

3642
03:05:50.680 --> 03:05:57.559
<v Speaker 3>Lucifer and Satan aren't going to prevail, so you could

3643
03:05:57.559 --> 03:06:00.360
<v Speaker 3>place your bets, But I'm going with the gods good one.

3644
03:06:02.040 --> 03:06:02.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

3645
03:06:02.280 --> 03:06:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean certain people will also say that Old

3646
03:06:04.959 --> 03:06:07.319
<v Speaker 2>Testament God and New Testament God might be two separate

3647
03:06:07.440 --> 03:06:11.040
<v Speaker 2>entities just going off of their actions and their words

3648
03:06:11.120 --> 03:06:13.719
<v Speaker 2>and everything. Because you look at Old Testament God, do

3649
03:06:13.920 --> 03:06:15.719
<v Speaker 2>was a bit of a dick, and then you look

3650
03:06:15.760 --> 03:06:18.399
<v Speaker 2>at New Testament God, he's like, you know, he's more Jesus.

3651
03:06:18.840 --> 03:06:22.440
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying that that's really a challenging

3652
03:06:22.639 --> 03:06:26.879
<v Speaker 3>thing to unpack because you know, it's hard to figure

3653
03:06:26.920 --> 03:06:30.239
<v Speaker 3>out why God made the switch room, Like, Okay, he

3654
03:06:30.360 --> 03:06:32.079
<v Speaker 3>shifting gears on us, what's up with that?

3655
03:06:32.399 --> 03:06:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, Jesus isn't God. He even said that, like, I

3656
03:06:34.920 --> 03:06:36.399
<v Speaker 1>don't know the day in time the world will in

3657
03:06:36.600 --> 03:06:38.879
<v Speaker 1>only God does. He was very clear, I am the Son,

3658
03:06:39.040 --> 03:06:41.440
<v Speaker 1>He is the Father. I'm not a difference here.

3659
03:06:41.559 --> 03:06:43.399
<v Speaker 2>No, But whatever Jesus is talking to God in the

3660
03:06:43.440 --> 03:06:45.680
<v Speaker 2>New Testament, it's nothing like the God of the Old Testament.

3661
03:06:45.680 --> 03:06:46.520
<v Speaker 1>It's the point that I'm making.

3662
03:06:46.760 --> 03:06:49.879
<v Speaker 3>No, there's definitely a big difference. There's a whole shift

3663
03:06:49.959 --> 03:06:53.719
<v Speaker 3>over ceremonial laws out the window. And this was my

3664
03:06:53.840 --> 03:06:57.920
<v Speaker 3>journey for like two years. I was really a struggling

3665
03:06:58.000 --> 03:07:01.440
<v Speaker 3>with the whole Hell thing because I studied Hell. And

3666
03:07:01.559 --> 03:07:03.959
<v Speaker 3>when I was in New York for six months, all

3667
03:07:04.079 --> 03:07:06.840
<v Speaker 3>I did was study Hell. What does the Bible really teach?

3668
03:07:06.920 --> 03:07:09.840
<v Speaker 3>I went through all the passages. I've read every book

3669
03:07:09.920 --> 03:07:13.479
<v Speaker 3>I could. I read Jonathan Edwards's complete works, two four

3670
03:07:13.559 --> 03:07:17.920
<v Speaker 3>inch volumes, all this doctrine on health. And basically, what

3671
03:07:18.040 --> 03:07:20.600
<v Speaker 3>I can tell you with total certainty is that the

3672
03:07:20.760 --> 03:07:25.840
<v Speaker 3>Bible teaches that men impenitent, men will go to a

3673
03:07:25.959 --> 03:07:29.840
<v Speaker 3>place where they're literally burning in fire forever, which is

3674
03:07:30.040 --> 03:07:34.239
<v Speaker 3>so catastrophically bad. I think it was Spurgeon said, if

3675
03:07:34.239 --> 03:07:37.319
<v Speaker 3>a man properly understood the doctrine of Hell, he'd go insane.

3676
03:07:37.639 --> 03:07:40.559
<v Speaker 3>It's so bad. I'm like, God, can't you just put

3677
03:07:40.639 --> 03:07:43.239
<v Speaker 3>him in a room somewhere If they reject you whatever,

3678
03:07:43.799 --> 03:07:45.920
<v Speaker 3>you gotta put them in fire. Okay. So for two

3679
03:07:46.120 --> 03:07:49.280
<v Speaker 3>years I was sort of at a crisis of my faith.

3680
03:07:49.360 --> 03:07:51.879
<v Speaker 3>So I'm praying, how could you do that?

3681
03:07:52.040 --> 03:07:55.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just wait, wait, wait, he didn't do it.

3682
03:07:56.159 --> 03:07:59.000
<v Speaker 1>They did it. He granted Hell. People say that, but

3683
03:07:59.200 --> 03:08:01.159
<v Speaker 1>that's not really created Hell.

3684
03:08:01.280 --> 03:08:05.520
<v Speaker 3>True, if I create Hell or the devil on his angels,

3685
03:08:05.719 --> 03:08:09.840
<v Speaker 3>I created it, and then I create Man, Adam, and Eve.

3686
03:08:09.959 --> 03:08:12.600
<v Speaker 3>So in other words, God knows everything, right. Yeah, well

3687
03:08:12.680 --> 03:08:14.760
<v Speaker 3>that means what he knew when he created them that

3688
03:08:14.879 --> 03:08:17.280
<v Speaker 3>they would fall in sin and then billions of people

3689
03:08:17.319 --> 03:08:18.760
<v Speaker 3>would end up in Hell. I did it.

3690
03:08:19.079 --> 03:08:22.159
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, He gave humans free will because he doesn't want

3691
03:08:22.200 --> 03:08:24.639
<v Speaker 1>subservient slaves who are gonna worship him. He wants us

3692
03:08:24.680 --> 03:08:26.040
<v Speaker 1>to choose to worship him.

3693
03:08:26.120 --> 03:08:26.319
<v Speaker 3>Kay.

3694
03:08:26.719 --> 03:08:29.520
<v Speaker 1>He gave Adam and free will, he wanted them to choose.

3695
03:08:29.559 --> 03:08:33.200
<v Speaker 3>To my kids, if my kids are walking really close

3696
03:08:33.280 --> 03:08:37.360
<v Speaker 3>to a cliff, I'm gonna preemptively go over and say, hey, kids,

3697
03:08:37.399 --> 03:08:40.040
<v Speaker 3>get away from the cliff. So, in a way, I

3698
03:08:40.200 --> 03:08:43.000
<v Speaker 3>was holding God in derision, okay, And I was basically

3699
03:08:43.159 --> 03:08:45.680
<v Speaker 3>saying I don't like the way you run your universe.

3700
03:08:46.319 --> 03:08:49.040
<v Speaker 3>I think it's reckless, and I think it's unfair. If

3701
03:08:49.079 --> 03:08:51.799
<v Speaker 3>you steal a Snickers bar, you shouldn't go to jail

3702
03:08:51.879 --> 03:08:54.959
<v Speaker 3>for a hundred years. Right. So the crime of Hell

3703
03:08:55.040 --> 03:08:59.840
<v Speaker 3>didn't to me fit the crime that people like nice

3704
03:09:00.040 --> 03:09:02.360
<v Speaker 3>people that live down the street, but they'd ignore God.

3705
03:09:02.440 --> 03:09:05.440
<v Speaker 3>They're going to Hell. Yep. Okay. So two years I

3706
03:09:05.520 --> 03:09:08.600
<v Speaker 3>prayed one prayer, how could you send people to Hell? Okay?

3707
03:09:08.680 --> 03:09:11.719
<v Speaker 3>So this was my answer after I'm not exaggerating. For

3708
03:09:11.799 --> 03:09:15.680
<v Speaker 3>two years, It's basically all I prayed. So I go

3709
03:09:15.760 --> 03:09:18.319
<v Speaker 3>out to the field behind my house every morning six am.

3710
03:09:19.760 --> 03:09:22.280
<v Speaker 3>And there was cobwebs. So I'd always get a stick

3711
03:09:22.639 --> 03:09:24.399
<v Speaker 3>and push the stick in front of me when i'd

3712
03:09:24.440 --> 03:09:26.719
<v Speaker 3>walk down the wagon trail, and then i'd throw it

3713
03:09:26.799 --> 03:09:28.680
<v Speaker 3>at this one place and when I turned the corner

3714
03:09:28.840 --> 03:09:30.760
<v Speaker 3>because there were no more cobwebs. And I remember one

3715
03:09:30.799 --> 03:09:32.360
<v Speaker 3>day I walked by and there was a pile of

3716
03:09:32.520 --> 03:09:35.120
<v Speaker 3>sticks like three feet high. Yeah. So I used to

3717
03:09:35.200 --> 03:09:37.760
<v Speaker 3>pray every day, right, So I go out there and

3718
03:09:37.920 --> 03:09:42.120
<v Speaker 3>one day I'm walking down and the Holy Spirit comes

3719
03:09:42.200 --> 03:09:45.799
<v Speaker 3>on me like a bucket of warm honey Cooboriam hits

3720
03:09:45.879 --> 03:09:49.159
<v Speaker 3>me and I'm like whoa, And I knew it was God.

3721
03:09:49.280 --> 03:09:52.079
<v Speaker 3>And all of a sudden I heard God say, do

3722
03:09:52.159 --> 03:09:55.159
<v Speaker 3>you have any other questions? Before you'd be ready to follow.

3723
03:09:54.959 --> 03:09:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Me saying what though about Hell?

3724
03:10:01.040 --> 03:10:03.440
<v Speaker 3>As soon as he said that, out of the depths

3725
03:10:03.479 --> 03:10:08.280
<v Speaker 3>of my soul came to these words, I'm free. I

3726
03:10:08.360 --> 03:10:13.399
<v Speaker 3>didn't say it, just it was God answering my question. Okay,

3727
03:10:14.479 --> 03:10:18.399
<v Speaker 3>because when God speaks to me, which is not all

3728
03:10:18.440 --> 03:10:20.319
<v Speaker 3>the time, but when he does speak, he can say

3729
03:10:20.479 --> 03:10:22.719
<v Speaker 3>one or two words or a little sentence and it'll

3730
03:10:22.760 --> 03:10:25.399
<v Speaker 3>mean a whole paragraph. So this is basically what God

3731
03:10:25.559 --> 03:10:28.760
<v Speaker 3>was telling me by asking me the question, do you

3732
03:10:28.840 --> 03:10:31.440
<v Speaker 3>have any other questions before you're ready to follow me?

3733
03:10:32.600 --> 03:10:37.079
<v Speaker 3>It's a question that says this. If I was able

3734
03:10:37.200 --> 03:10:42.799
<v Speaker 3>to answer your question, which I basically can't, what would

3735
03:10:42.879 --> 03:10:45.920
<v Speaker 3>stop you from then holding back your allegiance by having

3736
03:10:46.000 --> 03:10:48.120
<v Speaker 3>another question, and another one and another one.

3737
03:10:48.159 --> 03:10:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, sir, hold on, I have to respectfully disagree.

3738
03:10:51.280 --> 03:10:55.799
<v Speaker 1>God can't nothing, God can do everything. Is it possible

3739
03:10:55.840 --> 03:10:58.719
<v Speaker 1>that he was telling you you are a human, you

3740
03:10:58.840 --> 03:11:01.959
<v Speaker 1>cannot understand the comple flexities of how existence works, and

3741
03:11:02.120 --> 03:11:05.639
<v Speaker 1>you cannot understand the actual reason for a hell? Do

3742
03:11:05.799 --> 03:11:08.920
<v Speaker 1>you have any other questions before you're ready to follow me?

3743
03:11:09.399 --> 03:11:11.559
<v Speaker 1>We understand the reason for heaven? Why not Hell?

3744
03:11:12.760 --> 03:11:14.680
<v Speaker 2>We can we can fathom that. Our little brands can

3745
03:11:14.719 --> 03:11:16.959
<v Speaker 2>fathom that, but we can't fathom hell. Really, hold on,

3746
03:11:17.159 --> 03:11:17.879
<v Speaker 2>you're a little brain.

3747
03:11:17.879 --> 03:11:20.879
<v Speaker 1>Can fathom your little braink and fathom why God would

3748
03:11:20.920 --> 03:11:23.479
<v Speaker 1>want to hang out with all of us. He created this.

3749
03:11:23.639 --> 03:11:26.600
<v Speaker 1>You think we are that interesting to him? Your brain

3750
03:11:26.639 --> 03:11:31.799
<v Speaker 1>can fathom that? That is insane, right, because this is

3751
03:11:31.840 --> 03:11:32.719
<v Speaker 1>what he was telling me.

3752
03:11:32.879 --> 03:11:35.600
<v Speaker 3>If let's say you're an you have an ant, okay,

3753
03:11:35.639 --> 03:11:40.079
<v Speaker 3>and the ant can live for one hundred centuries somehow, Okay,

3754
03:11:40.280 --> 03:11:43.000
<v Speaker 3>even if you had one hundred centuries, you couldn't explain

3755
03:11:43.120 --> 03:11:46.360
<v Speaker 3>how an eternal combustion engine works because the ant doesn't

3756
03:11:46.479 --> 03:11:49.879
<v Speaker 3>have the capacity, yes, to comprehend. That's what you're saying, right,

3757
03:11:49.920 --> 03:11:52.639
<v Speaker 3>absolutely so. And that's the message I got. And so

3758
03:11:52.760 --> 03:11:55.399
<v Speaker 3>what I did in that moment is I surrendered my

3759
03:11:55.760 --> 03:11:59.079
<v Speaker 3>need to have all my questions answered before I'll give

3760
03:11:59.159 --> 03:11:59.879
<v Speaker 3>him my allegiance.

3761
03:12:00.120 --> 03:12:00.639
<v Speaker 1>And I did.

3762
03:12:01.399 --> 03:12:05.799
<v Speaker 3>And all I can tell you is here's the upshot

3763
03:12:05.879 --> 03:12:08.120
<v Speaker 3>of the whole thing. If you've got questions about God,

3764
03:12:08.280 --> 03:12:10.680
<v Speaker 3>like the Old Testament New Testament thing, That's what got

3765
03:12:10.719 --> 03:12:14.120
<v Speaker 3>me on this. What I learned was the answer to

3766
03:12:14.239 --> 03:12:18.040
<v Speaker 3>your question is there is no answer. Okay, Okay. The

3767
03:12:18.280 --> 03:12:21.280
<v Speaker 3>offer is take it or leave it. I like it.

3768
03:12:22.239 --> 03:12:24.920
<v Speaker 3>Jesus came and said, I will give you everything. I'll

3769
03:12:24.959 --> 03:12:27.319
<v Speaker 3>give you the access to the Father. I'll give you

3770
03:12:27.440 --> 03:12:29.399
<v Speaker 3>the mansion. I'll give you I'll write your name in

3771
03:12:29.440 --> 03:12:31.159
<v Speaker 3>the Lambs Book of Life, and when you draw your

3772
03:12:31.239 --> 03:12:34.639
<v Speaker 3>last breath, you will go to an eternal bliss. But

3773
03:12:35.559 --> 03:12:39.600
<v Speaker 3>you have to give me the driver, the steering wheel

3774
03:12:39.639 --> 03:12:43.840
<v Speaker 3>of your car. A self directed life is not what

3775
03:12:44.000 --> 03:12:48.239
<v Speaker 3>God is looking for. And that means because Christ is

3776
03:12:48.360 --> 03:12:50.719
<v Speaker 3>not a hormoner and a thief and a liar. He's

3777
03:12:50.760 --> 03:12:53.680
<v Speaker 3>a holy savior. He comes free and gives you the

3778
03:12:53.760 --> 03:12:59.200
<v Speaker 3>free salvation. But he has he can't deny himself. He's

3779
03:12:59.319 --> 03:13:02.879
<v Speaker 3>not wait, he's white, he's clean, he's holy. And and

3780
03:13:03.040 --> 03:13:06.479
<v Speaker 3>so what happens is you're so grateful for having him

3781
03:13:06.520 --> 03:13:09.200
<v Speaker 3>lift to burn a sin. You're like, just just name

3782
03:13:09.280 --> 03:13:12.200
<v Speaker 3>your coughs. I'll do whatever you want. So that's a

3783
03:13:12.319 --> 03:13:14.639
<v Speaker 3>love motive. Yes, so we're not.

3784
03:13:15.120 --> 03:13:18.000
<v Speaker 1>You don't serve God out of fear. You serve God

3785
03:13:18.079 --> 03:13:20.799
<v Speaker 1>out of love and out of gratefulness for the fact

3786
03:13:20.799 --> 03:13:23.120
<v Speaker 1>that we are living in the Age of Grace, for

3787
03:13:23.239 --> 03:13:25.799
<v Speaker 1>the fact that we literally are one prayer away from

3788
03:13:25.920 --> 03:13:28.280
<v Speaker 1>eternal salvation, the fact that that is a real thing.

3789
03:13:28.360 --> 03:13:30.760
<v Speaker 1>We don't have to sacrifice lamps, we don't have to

3790
03:13:31.239 --> 03:13:33.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, give up our first born child. None of this.

3791
03:13:33.479 --> 03:13:35.319
<v Speaker 1>All we have to do is literally with our mouths

3792
03:13:35.360 --> 03:13:40.280
<v Speaker 1>and with our hearts, pray a prayer the fact. Yes, absolutely, bro.

3793
03:13:40.360 --> 03:13:43.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean call me a blasphemer, but that goes against

3794
03:13:43.440 --> 03:13:47.479
<v Speaker 2>literally everything that this show stands for. And because are

3795
03:13:47.559 --> 03:13:49.440
<v Speaker 2>we not in the business of truth seeking?

3796
03:13:50.159 --> 03:13:51.399
<v Speaker 1>This is what I personally do.

3797
03:13:52.239 --> 03:13:52.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't get it.

3798
03:13:53.319 --> 03:13:57.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean by you know, remember we saw us

3799
03:13:57.639 --> 03:13:59.680
<v Speaker 1>out of touring episode like this is a real dude,

3800
03:13:59.760 --> 03:14:02.239
<v Speaker 1>he really walk the earth. That's like all verified and shit,

3801
03:14:02.520 --> 03:14:04.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure how is the show?

3802
03:14:04.959 --> 03:14:07.319
<v Speaker 3>How are you a blasphemer if you have a show

3803
03:14:07.600 --> 03:14:09.280
<v Speaker 3>based on what we just talked about. I don't get

3804
03:14:09.319 --> 03:14:09.840
<v Speaker 3>the correlation.

3805
03:14:10.280 --> 03:14:13.680
<v Speaker 2>So my favorite podcast has been for a very long time.

3806
03:14:13.760 --> 03:14:16.120
<v Speaker 2>It's Crow Triple seven. He has a famous saying says

3807
03:14:16.280 --> 03:14:17.959
<v Speaker 2>belief is the enemy of knowing.

3808
03:14:18.639 --> 03:14:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I disagree.

3809
03:14:19.799 --> 03:14:23.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm somebody that I can't just accept the fact that

3810
03:14:23.200 --> 03:14:26.760
<v Speaker 2>there is no way of knowing, like by by by

3811
03:14:26.840 --> 03:14:29.479
<v Speaker 2>admitting that you'll never know, and that there's no way

3812
03:14:29.520 --> 03:14:33.280
<v Speaker 2>you're ever gonna know. Why research anything? Why just why

3813
03:14:33.360 --> 03:14:33.799
<v Speaker 2>even do it?

3814
03:14:35.200 --> 03:14:39.120
<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, I can answer that because God can be known,

3815
03:14:39.399 --> 03:14:41.920
<v Speaker 3>but he can't be understood, So you can know God.

3816
03:14:42.479 --> 03:14:45.879
<v Speaker 3>But he said the heavens as high as the heavens

3817
03:14:45.920 --> 03:14:48.319
<v Speaker 3>are above the sea, so are my ways above your waist.

3818
03:14:48.760 --> 03:14:53.360
<v Speaker 3>So part of this relationship is that men need to

3819
03:14:53.520 --> 03:14:58.239
<v Speaker 3>worship something greater than themselves because men are infinitely arrogant

3820
03:14:58.319 --> 03:15:03.159
<v Speaker 3>and prideful. And but when you surrender that to this

3821
03:15:03.360 --> 03:15:07.040
<v Speaker 3>God and you acknowledge him and who he is, an uncreated,

3822
03:15:07.360 --> 03:15:11.280
<v Speaker 3>eternal being with all power, all knowledge, completely other than you,

3823
03:15:11.719 --> 03:15:14.239
<v Speaker 3>there is a comfort that comes into your soul because

3824
03:15:14.280 --> 03:15:15.959
<v Speaker 3>you're kind of a fish out of water.

3825
03:15:16.399 --> 03:15:19.840
<v Speaker 1>You sacrifice your ego to you because you realize you're

3826
03:15:19.879 --> 03:15:22.600
<v Speaker 1>a human and your ego is attached to this flesh suit.

3827
03:15:22.799 --> 03:15:25.040
<v Speaker 1>You can't get rid of that, so you in fact

3828
03:15:25.360 --> 03:15:28.360
<v Speaker 1>hand it over because you understand that it's beyond you.

3829
03:15:28.680 --> 03:15:32.719
<v Speaker 2>So it's essentially it's essentially the equivalence of being a

3830
03:15:32.840 --> 03:15:36.120
<v Speaker 2>little kid and your you know, your parents are trying

3831
03:15:36.159 --> 03:15:40.000
<v Speaker 2>to teach you something, not why, but just it's you

3832
03:15:40.159 --> 03:15:42.239
<v Speaker 2>do it this way. They don't teach you why you

3833
03:15:42.360 --> 03:15:44.319
<v Speaker 2>do it this way. It's just that you do it

3834
03:15:44.440 --> 03:15:46.760
<v Speaker 2>this way. No, And as a little kid, I mean,

3835
03:15:46.840 --> 03:15:48.959
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about you, but me personally, I always

3836
03:15:49.079 --> 03:15:51.719
<v Speaker 2>question like everybody's motives, including my parents.

3837
03:15:52.760 --> 03:15:56.559
<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't question my parents' motives. Honestly, then again,

3838
03:15:56.639 --> 03:15:59.040
<v Speaker 1>my parents didn't give me many reasons to question their motives.

3839
03:15:59.120 --> 03:16:01.920
<v Speaker 1>My parents, you know, did did a pretty damn good

3840
03:16:02.000 --> 03:16:03.319
<v Speaker 1>job as far as what they could.

3841
03:16:03.360 --> 03:16:06.000
<v Speaker 3>All right, Well that's a I think I think I

3842
03:16:06.040 --> 03:16:09.239
<v Speaker 3>can help you understand, all right. So in James it says,

3843
03:16:09.360 --> 03:16:11.760
<v Speaker 3>if does any man lack of wisdom, let him ask

3844
03:16:11.879 --> 03:16:13.920
<v Speaker 3>of God, who gives freely and abate. It's not so,

3845
03:16:14.040 --> 03:16:16.479
<v Speaker 3>it's not across the board. You're kept in the dark.

3846
03:16:16.799 --> 03:16:21.120
<v Speaker 3>It was just uncertain things like this doctrine of eternal damnation.

3847
03:16:21.319 --> 03:16:24.520
<v Speaker 3>It's a pretty airy thing man. And and God was like, look,

3848
03:16:26.360 --> 03:16:30.079
<v Speaker 3>you're you know, I like your I like your your

3849
03:16:30.120 --> 03:16:34.159
<v Speaker 3>want your desire to know, you know, understand how the

3850
03:16:34.239 --> 03:16:38.120
<v Speaker 3>things work. But at a certain point, by design, you're

3851
03:16:38.239 --> 03:16:40.719
<v Speaker 3>not going to get it all figured out, because God

3852
03:16:40.840 --> 03:16:44.559
<v Speaker 3>has created it such a way that the intellectual man

3853
03:16:44.680 --> 03:16:47.719
<v Speaker 3>cannot scale the wall to heaven. Right. In one Corinthians,

3854
03:16:47.799 --> 03:16:51.399
<v Speaker 3>it says, it says, uh, didn't you notice that there's

3855
03:16:51.479 --> 03:16:54.840
<v Speaker 3>not many great, not many noble Imi. God uses the

3856
03:16:54.959 --> 03:16:57.760
<v Speaker 3>foolish things to confound the wise. The preaching of the

3857
03:16:57.840 --> 03:17:02.959
<v Speaker 3>cross is foolishness to them. Their perish So you, Jesus said,

3858
03:17:03.000 --> 03:17:05.319
<v Speaker 3>you have to come as a little child. So all that, well,

3859
03:17:05.319 --> 03:17:07.440
<v Speaker 3>I believe what I can see. Bless God. You know

3860
03:17:08.000 --> 03:17:10.319
<v Speaker 3>I can send this table, but there you can't prove

3861
03:17:10.399 --> 03:17:12.680
<v Speaker 3>there's the God. Okay, bye, let me hold the door

3862
03:17:12.799 --> 03:17:15.840
<v Speaker 3>for you. Okay. I had the burden of sin on me,

3863
03:17:15.879 --> 03:17:18.079
<v Speaker 3>and I said to this little prayer, and boom. The

3864
03:17:18.120 --> 03:17:19.959
<v Speaker 3>next day, I had the best sleep of my night

3865
03:17:20.319 --> 03:17:22.319
<v Speaker 3>ever in my life. And I wake up and Jesus

3866
03:17:22.440 --> 03:17:23.920
<v Speaker 3>is all around me, and I got the joy of

3867
03:17:23.959 --> 03:17:26.799
<v Speaker 3>the Lord and I got peace for once in my life.

3868
03:17:27.239 --> 03:17:30.520
<v Speaker 3>Go go figure it out. Go it's like in the ord,

3869
03:17:30.600 --> 03:17:33.440
<v Speaker 3>cloud or whatever. I'm going to follow this personal God.

3870
03:17:33.840 --> 03:17:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Basically. Look, life, human life is complicated enough to try

3871
03:17:38.280 --> 03:17:40.959
<v Speaker 1>to figure it out. Let's be honest. Just us existing

3872
03:17:41.079 --> 03:17:44.440
<v Speaker 1>right here is complicated enough, with enough intricate levels in

3873
03:17:44.520 --> 03:17:46.799
<v Speaker 1>our day to day we really do not have the

3874
03:17:46.840 --> 03:17:49.520
<v Speaker 1>capability to understand what is going on in the thirteenth

3875
03:17:49.600 --> 03:17:52.360
<v Speaker 1>dimension of God's creation. Let's be just very straight up.

3876
03:17:52.319 --> 03:17:55.159
<v Speaker 2>About My point is is that you know you went

3877
03:17:55.280 --> 03:17:58.239
<v Speaker 2>through your time of questioning God absolutely and how you

3878
03:17:58.360 --> 03:18:02.680
<v Speaker 2>cemented your beliefs was by finding physical proof. Yeah, that

3879
03:18:02.879 --> 03:18:06.440
<v Speaker 2>of which you I mean by the Bible says that

3880
03:18:06.520 --> 03:18:07.319
<v Speaker 2>you don't even need that.

3881
03:18:07.879 --> 03:18:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I already knew it to be true, but yeah,

3882
03:18:10.479 --> 03:18:11.399
<v Speaker 1>that confirmed.

3883
03:18:11.040 --> 03:18:15.600
<v Speaker 2>It, but it confirmed it right, So that's essentially what

3884
03:18:15.719 --> 03:18:17.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to do. But it's not right in the

3885
03:18:17.680 --> 03:18:20.920
<v Speaker 2>eyes of God. No, you're we present to a physical

3886
03:18:21.000 --> 03:18:22.520
<v Speaker 2>proof you reject it. There's a difference.

3887
03:18:23.200 --> 03:18:25.239
<v Speaker 3>No, I totally know what you're saying, Joonathan, because what

3888
03:18:25.360 --> 03:18:27.840
<v Speaker 3>it says is that it's the glory of God to

3889
03:18:27.959 --> 03:18:30.840
<v Speaker 3>conceal the matter and it's the glory of kings to

3890
03:18:30.959 --> 03:18:35.399
<v Speaker 3>seek it out. So for different reasons. The way God

3891
03:18:35.440 --> 03:18:38.479
<v Speaker 3>has set it up is, you know, he speaks in

3892
03:18:38.639 --> 03:18:41.799
<v Speaker 3>powables and you get impressions, you get dreams. Nothing's like

3893
03:18:42.079 --> 03:18:45.479
<v Speaker 3>flapay into sloppy I'm really pragmatic, Like, just tell me

3894
03:18:45.559 --> 03:18:47.520
<v Speaker 3>what I'm supposed to do. No, it doesn't work that way.

3895
03:18:47.920 --> 03:18:50.799
<v Speaker 3>You gotta pray and then you get an impression over here,

3896
03:18:51.079 --> 03:18:53.760
<v Speaker 3>and then somebody has a word that confirms the impression,

3897
03:18:53.840 --> 03:18:56.559
<v Speaker 3>and then it's like this piecemeal you know, kind of

3898
03:18:56.600 --> 03:19:00.159
<v Speaker 3>a thing where you are dependent on him because Man

3899
03:19:01.040 --> 03:19:05.280
<v Speaker 3>is extremely proud and we need to be humbled, which

3900
03:19:05.319 --> 03:19:08.000
<v Speaker 3>is why prayer. You know, prayer humbles us.

3901
03:19:08.479 --> 03:19:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Dude, did you hear Cat van Dee just talk about this?

3902
03:19:11.559 --> 03:19:13.600
<v Speaker 1>As she went, Cat von Dee, you know this is

3903
03:19:14.120 --> 03:19:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I never heard him? No, okay. Catvonde is a very

3904
03:19:16.200 --> 03:19:19.000
<v Speaker 1>famous tattoo artist who is also a very famous Satanist.

3905
03:19:19.040 --> 03:19:21.559
<v Speaker 1>For a while, she delved into some witchcraft in black magic.

3906
03:19:21.639 --> 03:19:24.319
<v Speaker 1>She's very open about this these days because she has

3907
03:19:24.399 --> 03:19:26.280
<v Speaker 1>found Jesus and she's turned her life around, and she

3908
03:19:26.399 --> 03:19:28.600
<v Speaker 1>is like a hardcore Bible thumper these days. I just

3909
03:19:28.680 --> 03:19:30.879
<v Speaker 1>watched the interview with her and she was talking about

3910
03:19:30.879 --> 03:19:32.719
<v Speaker 1>how the people that perform in the dark arts and

3911
03:19:32.760 --> 03:19:35.040
<v Speaker 1>all of that, they are looking to try to find

3912
03:19:35.120 --> 03:19:39.239
<v Speaker 1>ways to prove their magic. I found the Bible and

3913
03:19:39.360 --> 03:19:41.079
<v Speaker 1>I can prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt

3914
03:19:41.120 --> 03:19:44.079
<v Speaker 1>in my daily life, like I don't have to look

3915
03:19:44.120 --> 03:19:46.719
<v Speaker 1>for proof, It's provided. And she was not talking about

3916
03:19:46.719 --> 03:19:49.040
<v Speaker 1>the book. She was talking about the day to day

3917
03:19:49.200 --> 03:19:51.840
<v Speaker 1>activities that prove that God has got her back at

3918
03:19:51.879 --> 03:19:54.719
<v Speaker 1>this time, and it was it's really crazy to hear

3919
03:19:54.799 --> 03:19:56.879
<v Speaker 1>people who have swapped sides say like, no, no, it's

3920
03:19:56.920 --> 03:19:59.799
<v Speaker 1>not that it's like, oh, this Christian book is magic. No, No, No,

3921
03:20:00.239 --> 03:20:03.799
<v Speaker 1>this isn't magic, this is reality, and I actually found it.

3922
03:20:03.879 --> 03:20:07.200
<v Speaker 1>They're looking for ways to confirm their reality. I found

3923
03:20:07.319 --> 03:20:10.200
<v Speaker 1>all the confirmation of this actual reality we're living in

3924
03:20:10.520 --> 03:20:13.079
<v Speaker 1>right now. That's wild.

3925
03:20:14.399 --> 03:20:15.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna check it out.

3926
03:20:15.319 --> 03:20:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Cat von d Vonde, Yeah she was. She's the reason

3927
03:20:20.719 --> 03:20:23.200
<v Speaker 1>why Jesse James and Sandra Bullet broke up allegedly and

3928
03:20:23.280 --> 03:20:24.360
<v Speaker 1>all all these things.

3929
03:20:24.440 --> 03:20:27.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro. Do you remember Jonathan in the

3930
03:20:27.959 --> 03:20:30.239
<v Speaker 3>in the Garden all the way back? There was the

3931
03:20:30.479 --> 03:20:33.200
<v Speaker 3>true trees in the in the Garden of Eden, and

3932
03:20:33.360 --> 03:20:35.360
<v Speaker 3>one of them was the tree of the knowledge of

3933
03:20:35.399 --> 03:20:37.719
<v Speaker 3>good and evil, and that's the one God said, don't

3934
03:20:37.760 --> 03:20:43.399
<v Speaker 3>eat it to that. So there's an innocence that we're

3935
03:20:43.440 --> 03:20:47.040
<v Speaker 3>supposed to live out of where we're trusting Him and

3936
03:20:47.360 --> 03:20:51.280
<v Speaker 3>and all of the Gnostics are trying to get their building,

3937
03:20:51.360 --> 03:20:54.520
<v Speaker 3>their tower of babble. They're trying to create a connection

3938
03:20:55.079 --> 03:20:59.239
<v Speaker 3>to becoming God themselves. That's what the the New Age

3939
03:20:59.319 --> 03:21:02.239
<v Speaker 3>movement is really teaching that you're God.

3940
03:21:02.360 --> 03:21:04.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm God, God is you know in all of us

3941
03:21:04.879 --> 03:21:08.239
<v Speaker 1>self worship, ego worship if you really want to get technical,

3942
03:21:08.319 --> 03:21:10.680
<v Speaker 1>which is in fact Satanic worship.

3943
03:21:10.840 --> 03:21:13.760
<v Speaker 3>And you're not wired to you're not wired that way.

3944
03:21:14.239 --> 03:21:19.200
<v Speaker 3>You're you're not wired to be the God there is already.

3945
03:21:19.200 --> 03:21:24.079
<v Speaker 3>It's his universe, and he created you, not the other

3946
03:21:24.120 --> 03:21:28.799
<v Speaker 3>way around. It is we. It is He that created

3947
03:21:28.879 --> 03:21:31.120
<v Speaker 3>us and not we ourselves. That's what the Bible says.

3948
03:21:31.840 --> 03:21:35.319
<v Speaker 3>So it's a it's a thing where you you have

3949
03:21:35.600 --> 03:21:39.159
<v Speaker 3>to be willing to take your place in the order

3950
03:21:39.239 --> 03:21:43.799
<v Speaker 3>of things. Okay, So the dirt clot serves the grass,

3951
03:21:44.360 --> 03:21:51.159
<v Speaker 3>the grass serves the brute best, the brute beast serves man, right,

3952
03:21:51.280 --> 03:21:56.840
<v Speaker 3>and who does man serve God? If you try to

3953
03:21:56.959 --> 03:21:59.319
<v Speaker 3>be God, you're going to be out of divine order

3954
03:21:59.399 --> 03:22:02.920
<v Speaker 3>and you won't be vibrating right at the right frequency.

3955
03:22:03.000 --> 03:22:04.319
<v Speaker 3>You're supposed to have a God.

3956
03:22:05.680 --> 03:22:08.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I believe that God is in all things though,

3957
03:22:08.280 --> 03:22:11.879
<v Speaker 2>and I mean it says that throughout the Bible that God.

3958
03:22:11.840 --> 03:22:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Is within all things. It's He's in the hearts of

3959
03:22:14.479 --> 03:22:14.920
<v Speaker 1>all men.

3960
03:22:15.280 --> 03:22:18.959
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yes, So to say that God is not a

3961
03:22:19.040 --> 03:22:22.559
<v Speaker 2>part of you, but also to say that that's new age,

3962
03:22:22.920 --> 03:22:23.959
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's correct.

3963
03:22:24.120 --> 03:22:26.600
<v Speaker 1>In the to quote the Bible, in the seventeenth chapter

3964
03:22:26.680 --> 03:22:28.719
<v Speaker 1>of Luke, it even says that the spirit of God

3965
03:22:28.840 --> 03:22:31.520
<v Speaker 1>lies within men. Not one man or a group of men,

3966
03:22:31.559 --> 03:22:32.559
<v Speaker 1>but in all men.

3967
03:22:32.719 --> 03:22:36.559
<v Speaker 3>I agree, right, But there's a very clear distinction where

3968
03:22:36.840 --> 03:22:39.600
<v Speaker 3>in the Bible. The way the Bible presents God is

3969
03:22:39.760 --> 03:22:42.959
<v Speaker 3>that he's separate from his creation. So he says, I

3970
03:22:43.120 --> 03:22:46.200
<v Speaker 3>am God, and apart from me there is no other.

3971
03:22:46.680 --> 03:22:51.680
<v Speaker 3>So yes, the Holy Spirit will in dwell the believer.

3972
03:22:53.000 --> 03:22:56.280
<v Speaker 3>So you'll have God's spirit in you, but it doesn't

3973
03:22:56.360 --> 03:23:01.520
<v Speaker 3>make you deity. Okay, is no? I agree you being

3974
03:23:01.639 --> 03:23:04.719
<v Speaker 3>deity and Deity dwelling in you and animating.

3975
03:23:05.319 --> 03:23:08.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I know what you're saying.

3976
03:23:08.239 --> 03:23:10.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that I am God in the flesh,

3977
03:23:11.159 --> 03:23:13.719
<v Speaker 2>but I'm you know, my opinion is is that God

3978
03:23:13.840 --> 03:23:18.200
<v Speaker 2>dwells within everybody and so therefore dwells within me. I'm

3979
03:23:18.239 --> 03:23:19.799
<v Speaker 2>not saying that I am a God. I'm saying that

3980
03:23:19.879 --> 03:23:23.920
<v Speaker 2>I have God in me. That's my opinion.

3981
03:23:23.959 --> 03:23:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Now, I can't speak on behalf of all new agers.

3982
03:23:25.879 --> 03:23:28.319
<v Speaker 2>I agree one hundred percent with what you just said, right,

3983
03:23:28.399 --> 03:23:30.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's how I look at it, And honestly,

3984
03:23:30.600 --> 03:23:33.520
<v Speaker 2>like you know, within a lot of magic books and everything,

3985
03:23:33.559 --> 03:23:35.319
<v Speaker 2>I've read a few of them so far, and that's

3986
03:23:35.559 --> 03:23:38.879
<v Speaker 2>exactly how they how they portray a lot of their magic.

3987
03:23:39.239 --> 03:23:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I see the new age, and it's not necessarily new.

3988
03:23:41.680 --> 03:23:41.920
<v Speaker 3>Agent.

3989
03:23:41.959 --> 03:23:44.559
<v Speaker 1>The difference is between a believer in a higher power

3990
03:23:45.000 --> 03:23:46.840
<v Speaker 1>and a Christian is the fact that we believe that

3991
03:23:47.000 --> 03:23:49.479
<v Speaker 1>not only does God reside within us, but we also

3992
03:23:49.520 --> 03:23:52.159
<v Speaker 1>believe that Jesus was his son and that we follow

3993
03:23:52.239 --> 03:23:54.920
<v Speaker 1>his example and accept his sacrifice for what we got

3994
03:23:54.959 --> 03:23:56.360
<v Speaker 1>going on in our human life.

3995
03:23:56.360 --> 03:23:59.639
<v Speaker 3>That's okay, I mean, Jesus said it. No man comes

3996
03:23:59.680 --> 03:24:01.879
<v Speaker 3>to the except for me. So a lot of people

3997
03:24:01.959 --> 03:24:05.680
<v Speaker 3>talk about God, God, God, but they don't really know Jesus.

3998
03:24:05.799 --> 03:24:10.280
<v Speaker 3>And Jesus said, you know, I'm the door. You don't

3999
03:24:10.319 --> 03:24:12.079
<v Speaker 3>get to God. If you try to get up some

4000
03:24:12.200 --> 03:24:14.200
<v Speaker 3>other way, you're a thief and a liar. So there's

4001
03:24:14.319 --> 03:24:17.319
<v Speaker 3>no getting to God except to Jesus because he's the

4002
03:24:17.399 --> 03:24:22.680
<v Speaker 3>one that paid the price. God sent Jesus God, you know.

4003
03:24:22.799 --> 03:24:24.879
<v Speaker 2>And I know that I'm gonna turn a lot of

4004
03:24:25.000 --> 03:24:27.760
<v Speaker 2>heads with this one, but this is just my personal belief.

4005
03:24:28.520 --> 03:24:28.799
<v Speaker 3>It comes.

4006
03:24:28.959 --> 03:24:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they re clutch my pearls, don't.

4007
03:24:30.760 --> 03:24:31.879
<v Speaker 3>My will will believes.

4008
03:24:32.760 --> 03:24:35.559
<v Speaker 2>My will will believes is that Jesus is the representation

4009
03:24:35.680 --> 03:24:37.639
<v Speaker 2>of the higher Self. And I don't believe that you

4010
03:24:37.760 --> 03:24:40.280
<v Speaker 2>can speak to God or get to God except through

4011
03:24:40.399 --> 03:24:41.920
<v Speaker 2>the highest version of yourself.

4012
03:24:42.120 --> 03:24:44.440
<v Speaker 1>But Jesus was a physical dude that walked the earth.

4013
03:24:45.760 --> 03:24:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Turn I know, but I'm what I'm saying is that

4014
03:24:47.559 --> 03:24:50.319
<v Speaker 2>I believe that he was the physical representation of the

4015
03:24:50.440 --> 03:24:51.040
<v Speaker 2>higher Self.

4016
03:24:51.239 --> 03:24:54.559
<v Speaker 1>So enough people across the world thought enough and manifested

4017
03:24:54.639 --> 03:24:55.719
<v Speaker 1>him into existence.

4018
03:24:56.600 --> 03:24:59.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, prophetizing and manifesting is I mean, what's the difference.

4019
03:25:01.479 --> 03:25:03.600
<v Speaker 1>So you are saying, I'm making sure, I'm with you,

4020
03:25:03.920 --> 03:25:06.000
<v Speaker 1>the virgin birth story with Mary and all that. You're

4021
03:25:06.040 --> 03:25:08.959
<v Speaker 1>saying that that is plausible because of enough people across

4022
03:25:09.040 --> 03:25:12.600
<v Speaker 1>this many centuries, across this many millennia, believed and prophesied

4023
03:25:12.639 --> 03:25:14.840
<v Speaker 1>that their Savior was coming that bump bump, bah bah.

4024
03:25:15.280 --> 03:25:20.159
<v Speaker 1>They literally manifested him into existence, into the Virgin Mary's womb.

4025
03:25:20.760 --> 03:25:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I believe that literally, this is this. That's how interesting takes, sir,

4026
03:25:24.639 --> 03:25:25.639
<v Speaker 1>check it out this way though.

4027
03:25:25.760 --> 03:25:28.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's such things as Edgar Gores. We've talked

4028
03:25:28.639 --> 03:25:32.000
<v Speaker 2>about that before. But essentially, I do believe that if

4029
03:25:32.120 --> 03:25:35.280
<v Speaker 2>enough people believe in something hard enough that it turns

4030
03:25:35.360 --> 03:25:40.239
<v Speaker 2>into something that is physically corporeal, corporeally real. I mean,

4031
03:25:40.959 --> 03:25:42.879
<v Speaker 2>think about it in this sense. Think about the black

4032
03:25:42.959 --> 03:25:46.520
<v Speaker 2>magic that the mainstream media uses. That what they do

4033
03:25:46.760 --> 03:25:50.559
<v Speaker 2>is they'll they'll forecast something, you know there there might

4034
03:25:50.719 --> 03:25:52.719
<v Speaker 2>be an alien starship ahead of us.

4035
03:25:53.040 --> 03:25:54.559
<v Speaker 1>It gets it into the public opinion.

4036
03:25:54.600 --> 03:25:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Now a lot of people are looking up, yo, alien

4037
03:25:56.479 --> 03:25:58.879
<v Speaker 2>starships up there, and then I don't know, maybe it is,

4038
03:25:59.000 --> 03:26:01.840
<v Speaker 2>maybe it isn't, But somehow, one day I guarantee we

4039
03:26:01.879 --> 03:26:02.680
<v Speaker 2>see that fucking thing.

4040
03:26:02.799 --> 03:26:05.399
<v Speaker 1>And then right behind that, the Netflix movie Don't Look.

4041
03:26:05.280 --> 03:26:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Up came out just saying there's there's weird things that

4042
03:26:08.319 --> 03:26:11.440
<v Speaker 2>are manifested just because enough people believe in it. Okay,

4043
03:26:11.600 --> 03:26:13.399
<v Speaker 2>that's where I come from. But anyway, look, we can

4044
03:26:13.440 --> 03:26:16.040
<v Speaker 2>talk about your things. We can talk about this literally

4045
03:26:16.280 --> 03:26:19.000
<v Speaker 2>to the absolute bone. We've gone a long time in

4046
03:26:19.079 --> 03:26:23.840
<v Speaker 2>this episode. Yeah, we are hustling and killing it.

4047
03:26:23.959 --> 03:26:26.520
<v Speaker 3>John Marathon in the beginning, Well.

4048
03:26:26.559 --> 03:26:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely did John. John.

4049
03:26:28.520 --> 03:26:31.760
<v Speaker 2>We absolutely love you, bro, I mean, you are great

4050
03:26:31.879 --> 03:26:34.360
<v Speaker 2>and we can't wait to get you back on again.

4051
03:26:35.239 --> 03:26:39.840
<v Speaker 2>This This talk was definitely thought provoking. It was definitely

4052
03:26:39.920 --> 03:26:42.520
<v Speaker 2>something to spin the gears within the minds of all

4053
03:26:42.680 --> 03:26:43.559
<v Speaker 2>of the cult members.

4054
03:26:43.719 --> 03:26:45.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, and there's so many things I have

4055
03:26:45.639 --> 03:26:47.399
<v Speaker 1>to start researching into now.

4056
03:26:47.479 --> 03:26:50.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, let me mention on my website it's Wakeupfels

4057
03:26:50.479 --> 03:26:54.600
<v Speaker 3>dot com. And then you go to the resources tap okay,

4058
03:26:54.680 --> 03:26:57.840
<v Speaker 3>and there's Bible quizzes in there, there's powerpoints, there's all

4059
03:26:57.959 --> 03:27:01.159
<v Speaker 3>kinds of stuff in the resources tap researching this, and

4060
03:27:01.200 --> 03:27:03.639
<v Speaker 3>then of course there's one hundred videos on my YouTube

4061
03:27:03.760 --> 03:27:04.680
<v Speaker 3>channel wake up for us.

4062
03:27:05.000 --> 03:27:07.360
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, I will have the links to both

4063
03:27:07.399 --> 03:27:09.920
<v Speaker 2>your website and your YouTube channel down in the show

4064
03:27:10.000 --> 03:27:11.040
<v Speaker 2>notes for anybody who wants to.

4065
03:27:11.040 --> 03:27:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Go take those quiz. Don't forget the book and the

4066
03:27:13.639 --> 03:27:17.479
<v Speaker 1>book of course, please buy my man's book. Yeah, all

4067
03:27:17.559 --> 03:27:17.959
<v Speaker 1>the things.

4068
03:27:18.000 --> 03:27:20.159
<v Speaker 2>We will put down, all the links, because I mean,

4069
03:27:20.319 --> 03:27:22.680
<v Speaker 2>you are such an enigmatic soul.

4070
03:27:23.000 --> 03:27:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know how anybody.

4071
03:27:24.319 --> 03:27:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Couldn't couldn't get behind at least at least dabbling into

4072
03:27:27.520 --> 03:27:29.159
<v Speaker 2>what you're talking about Elliott's Killer.

4073
03:27:29.520 --> 03:27:32.399
<v Speaker 3>So, uh, no one's ever called me enigmatic before.

4074
03:27:33.399 --> 03:27:34.200
<v Speaker 1>You definitely are.

4075
03:27:35.079 --> 03:27:35.520
<v Speaker 3>I take that.

4076
03:27:35.879 --> 03:27:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Keep in mind that's a sign of praise coming on you.

4077
03:27:40.399 --> 03:27:42.760
<v Speaker 1>You stir the pot in so many ways and in

4078
03:27:42.920 --> 03:27:45.760
<v Speaker 1>so many directions. This wasn't at Christians, this wasn't at

4079
03:27:45.840 --> 03:27:48.239
<v Speaker 1>New Ages, wasn't at right. We went all over, We

4080
03:27:48.399 --> 03:27:51.840
<v Speaker 1>covered such a wide range. I mean, shit, yeah, this.

4081
03:27:52.000 --> 03:27:55.479
<v Speaker 3>Was That's definitely the longest one I've ever done. Plus

4082
03:27:55.559 --> 03:27:58.159
<v Speaker 3>it's it's a quarter to two where I am. Are

4083
03:27:58.200 --> 03:27:58.959
<v Speaker 3>you guys specific?

4084
03:27:59.120 --> 03:28:01.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're essential. It's quarter to one Eares Central.

4085
03:28:01.479 --> 03:28:05.239
<v Speaker 3>Okay, guys, did you say you do three podcasts a week?

4086
03:28:05.360 --> 03:28:07.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh, we just cut down. We were doing five a week.

4087
03:28:07.760 --> 03:28:09.680
<v Speaker 1>We were doing Monday through Friday. We've been doing that

4088
03:28:09.719 --> 03:28:10.159
<v Speaker 1>for months.

4089
03:28:10.559 --> 03:28:12.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we just cut it down to three a week,

4090
03:28:12.360 --> 03:28:15.280
<v Speaker 2>but three hour shows each time. That way, it allows

4091
03:28:15.399 --> 03:28:18.040
<v Speaker 2>us an allotment of time to go over every possible

4092
03:28:18.120 --> 03:28:20.959
<v Speaker 2>detail we possibly can, because we want to ring this

4093
03:28:21.079 --> 03:28:24.879
<v Speaker 2>sponge dry, dude, every single thing. And and you came,

4094
03:28:25.079 --> 03:28:27.200
<v Speaker 2>you coming on here to talk about the Mandela effect

4095
03:28:27.239 --> 03:28:29.440
<v Speaker 2>and the Bible. I think we hit on just about

4096
03:28:29.479 --> 03:28:30.520
<v Speaker 2>every cylinder that.

4097
03:28:30.639 --> 03:28:34.040
<v Speaker 3>Was killing you know. Of course, Jacob Man, he took

4098
03:28:34.120 --> 03:28:36.600
<v Speaker 3>the other side like twenty dudes, but we held our own.

4099
03:28:36.920 --> 03:28:39.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, we tried, We tried.

4100
03:28:39.239 --> 03:28:39.479
<v Speaker 3>Station.

4101
03:28:39.719 --> 03:28:41.879
<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed the hell. He got stunned a few times.

4102
03:28:42.079 --> 03:28:43.479
<v Speaker 1>You got to give them the you gotta give them

4103
03:28:43.479 --> 03:28:45.200
<v Speaker 1>the right, dude. There was quite a few where you

4104
03:28:45.319 --> 03:28:47.159
<v Speaker 1>stumped me and I was like, I've never heard of

4105
03:28:47.239 --> 03:28:49.639
<v Speaker 1>this before and I'm like, look, maybe they misremembered, and

4106
03:28:49.719 --> 03:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>it was like, no, that's not a misremember and that's

4107
03:28:53.280 --> 03:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean shit, something to it, dude.

4108
03:28:57.479 --> 03:28:59.959
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, cult members, definitely go check out all those links.

4109
03:29:00.040 --> 03:29:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Go give John some love on his website, on his YouTube.

4110
03:29:02.959 --> 03:29:06.319
<v Speaker 2>Definitely check out his book. There's a lot more in

4111
03:29:06.479 --> 03:29:08.719
<v Speaker 2>the book and on his website and on the YouTube

4112
03:29:08.799 --> 03:29:11.959
<v Speaker 2>channel than what he just simply you know, presented here today.

4113
03:29:13.120 --> 03:29:15.639
<v Speaker 2>So with that being said, thank you so much John

4114
03:29:15.680 --> 03:29:18.120
<v Speaker 2>for coming on. Definitely gonna have to do it again, brother,

4115
03:29:18.760 --> 03:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>and uh yeah, dude. With that being said, this was

4116
03:29:23.000 --> 03:29:26.760
<v Speaker 2>another beautiful episode of the Cult of Conspiracy. And my

4117
03:29:26.879 --> 03:29:29.559
<v Speaker 2>name's Jonathan Drake, and there's one very important, extremely vital

4118
03:29:29.600 --> 03:29:31.479
<v Speaker 2>piece of information we needed to learn just as soon

4119
03:29:31.559 --> 03:29:32.639
<v Speaker 2>as humanly possible.

4120
03:29:33.399 --> 03:29:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Open up that third

4121
03:30:33.040 --> 03:30:33.079
<v Speaker 5>H
