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<v Speaker 1>You see something's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 1>What's gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you? Folks?

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<v Speaker 4>Your host double j back here, host of Operation g

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<v Speaker 4>c D and Not the Vice President, Welcome back for

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<v Speaker 4>another Fridays along with my co host Nick, host of

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<v Speaker 4>The Occult Rejects.

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<v Speaker 2>Nick. How you doing, sir?

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<v Speaker 1>It's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing quite well. Actually appreciate it. How you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>That's your bed? That's bad?

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<v Speaker 4>It's Friday, it's the Fridays and we got guest b. T. Wallace,

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<v Speaker 4>host of Truth and Shadow podcast. Ready, sir, how.

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<v Speaker 5>You doing doing well?

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<v Speaker 4>Fine scotsman wearing a fine hat? How are you doing

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<v Speaker 4>this evening? Besides doing well? What's going on in organ Land?

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<v Speaker 5>Man?

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<v Speaker 6>Over here?

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<v Speaker 5>In orgon Land? There's probably a whole lot of weird,

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<v Speaker 5>crazy conspiracy things going on. I mean, it's Democrat land.

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<v Speaker 5>Everything's blue, but you know some of us are still

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<v Speaker 5>holding on.

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<v Speaker 2>You ain't kidding.

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<v Speaker 4>I got lost in a in an organ related rabbit

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<v Speaker 4>hole earlier this week.

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<v Speaker 5>Sweet, tell me about that?

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<v Speaker 2>What? Well? Well? I will absolutely what? What? What? What's

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<v Speaker 2>besides that? Stuttery here? What's the new with the Truth

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<v Speaker 2>of the Shadow podcast?

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<v Speaker 5>Man Rude Shadow you know, we've been doing deep dives

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<v Speaker 5>from you know, conspiracy to psychological things all the way

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<v Speaker 5>into theology. So we're doing some pretty deep things going

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<v Speaker 5>in and looking at different meanings and stuff. I got

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<v Speaker 5>some great shows coming up in the pipeline, stuff from

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<v Speaker 5>JFK to talking about depth psychology and Union shadow work.

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<v Speaker 4>Nice, what specifically JFK really that were talking about. You

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<v Speaker 4>were briefly mentioning this here before the show, But yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I interviewed a couple of guys, interviewed a couple of

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<v Speaker 5>guys who wrote an article about a Van Alenen Linen

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<v Speaker 5>cleaning van that was parked on the corner of Elmon Houston,

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<v Speaker 5>and I had some interesting ties between the owner of

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<v Speaker 5>said company and Oswald.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice. And that's coming out soon.

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<v Speaker 5>It'll be about a month. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice. When you mentioned van, I was like, I know

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<v Speaker 2>some Vance.

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<v Speaker 5>I know a Vance.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I know some I know some Vance as well.

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<v Speaker 4>I know this van right here, which I was describing

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<v Speaker 4>to you relative to a guy who's been driving around

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<v Speaker 4>America for forty years, declaring probably forty plus now declaring

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<v Speaker 4>that Stephen King is the actual assassin of John Lennon,

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<v Speaker 4>not not Mark David Chapman Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye's what's that nick?

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<v Speaker 1>They figured out?

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<v Speaker 2>He said, he solved it.

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<v Speaker 4>As you can see his name, Stephen Lightfoot. He'll give

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<v Speaker 4>you a pamplet if you meet him. I believe he's

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<v Speaker 4>still alive. He's got a website, he's got some books

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<v Speaker 4>on the topic. He's been driving this. He litters his

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<v Speaker 4>van with this messages. You know, he's got newer models.

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<v Speaker 4>This is obviously the OG, but he really wants to

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<v Speaker 4>let you know that it was definitely Stephen King. What

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<v Speaker 4>Stephen King says about this? I don't know that he's

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<v Speaker 4>ever made a comment, But when you mentioned Lenin Van,

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, I know a Lenin Van, John Lennon Van.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, so this guy basically I'm sorry, I was just question.

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<v Speaker 4>What's your what's your all thoughts on the Lenin assassination?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it does seem like it could. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>when you have the JFK situation, you have multiple Oswald's, right,

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<v Speaker 4>you have the double Oswald's.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a operation, right right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>See I'm wondering is basically are they saying that, oh

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<v Speaker 5>what was his name? Mark Chapman was basically a patsy

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<v Speaker 5>for for King?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I think that's I mean, to be honest

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<v Speaker 4>with you, I've tried to read the guy's pamphlet and website,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's not exactly doesn't provide a coach in argument necessarily,

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<v Speaker 4>but I believe what he's getting.

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<v Speaker 2>At is, yes, what you just described. Okay, the we

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<v Speaker 2>can look at it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we can answer that question right now and

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<v Speaker 4>see what Stephen Lightfoot's conclusion. And we got new developments

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<v Speaker 4>here in section eight. Oh, Stephen King's letters to me. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>apparently I'm not up to speed. Stephen King is well

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<v Speaker 4>aware of these and has been for some time. That

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<v Speaker 4>one's dated ninety seven. Well, I imagine he's not happy

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<v Speaker 4>about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>In late July of nineteen eighty four, I received this

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<v Speaker 4>letter signed Dennis CEA.

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<v Speaker 2>Lee.

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<v Speaker 4>Amazingly, it seems to be the same handwriting as Stephen

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<v Speaker 4>King's letter to me in September of ninety two.

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<v Speaker 2>The first letter is it's red letter and an admission

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<v Speaker 2>of his guilt.

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<v Speaker 4>I for some reason, I suspect that's not accurate, right,

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<v Speaker 4>the killer's face and true identity.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see what this one says. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>We got some pictures here, I mean that's you bear

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<v Speaker 4>a resemblance to one another at the time. Right, you

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<v Speaker 4>got Mark David Chapman here, you got Stephen King here. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>I believe Chapman has some scientology connections just prior to

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<v Speaker 4>the the you know, the incident.

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<v Speaker 2>If you will.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, there you go.

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<v Speaker 4>So I've always found that odd and apparently he's got

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<v Speaker 4>I don't you know. To be quite honest with you,

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<v Speaker 4>I probably need to learn more about the details behind

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<v Speaker 4>Mark David Chapman, because now that I'm reading this stuff here,

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<v Speaker 4>it's there's some LSD test references here in this article

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<v Speaker 4>from ut They talking about Stephen King Charlie's napalm. What

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<v Speaker 4>are your thoughts Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>That Stephen King did it?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that.

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<v Speaker 6>I do find that whole thing was weird because the

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<v Speaker 6>whole uh catcher the right is associated with that assassination.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, Yeah, didn't you just do a show about that

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<v Speaker 4>with the old William Ramsey.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't you all discuss.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, he was gonna come on.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh, I forgot to give Yeah, we talked about it,

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<v Speaker 6>but I've never had him on.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha. Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>They're talking about Stephen King writing books about hypnosis, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Telecinic powers and LSD stuff. Okay, I got it. Oh

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<v Speaker 4>a fire starter. I never seen that one. Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I think there's a lot of weird stuff

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<v Speaker 4>around the uh, the whole situation here. Uh, this is

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<v Speaker 4>John Lennon here in this picture, and apparently this is

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<v Speaker 4>the autograph he's giving to Mark David Chapman hours prior

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<v Speaker 4>to the murder. There in front of the Dakota Building,

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<v Speaker 4>right the Dakota Building their next to Central Park there, Manhattan.

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<v Speaker 2>Park side, if you will.

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<v Speaker 4>The uh interesting part about that is that's where old

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<v Speaker 4>Bob Cocaine, Evans Rowan Plansky, their old process fellas did.

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<v Speaker 4>The Rosemary's Baby film was filmed there and Bob was

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<v Speaker 4>on set.

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<v Speaker 2>Every day allegedly for that or at least.

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<v Speaker 4>Frequently along with Charles Bluehorn, very Nazi like fellow that

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<v Speaker 4>the employed Bob as the head of Paramount Paramount Pictures.

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<v Speaker 4>Much of the storyline of Michael Corleone Godfather three is

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<v Speaker 4>actually the real life details of Charles Bluehorn relative to

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<v Speaker 4>Vatican banking scandals, real estate deals with the Vatican, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 4>as depicted in that film.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's always that's always been out to me.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, Dakota Building, right, So that's where Lennon gets

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<v Speaker 4>killed is in front of the Dakota Building. And again

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<v Speaker 4>that's where I've always thought that's strange. That's just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know speaking to these places that have certain

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<v Speaker 4>energies or whatnot. Like what I infer that goes on

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<v Speaker 4>in around mound sites.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never really done the research that could very well

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<v Speaker 4>be a mound site. There was a lot of mound

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<v Speaker 4>sites in that area for sure, mainly the shell mound sites.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you all have any of those out in Oregon?

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<v Speaker 4>Have you ever seen them out there?

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<v Speaker 5>No? No, we don't have it. No, the indigenous have

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<v Speaker 5>been destroyed. Yeah, well, the indigenous out here were nomadic.

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<v Speaker 5>They didn't have any place where they set down anchors

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<v Speaker 5>and were somewhere married stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>It were different maybe the recent indigenous. But these are

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<v Speaker 4>shell midden mounds were thousands of years old, just like

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<v Speaker 4>the Adiena mounds of the east. We don't really know

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<v Speaker 4>who built them, right, but yeah, the mouth of the

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<v Speaker 4>Columbia was littered with them there on the north north

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<v Speaker 4>side of Oregon.

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<v Speaker 5>That I would assume they've been dug up in.

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<v Speaker 4>Destroy Yeah, I mean I tracked a lot of the records.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of them are destroyed.

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<v Speaker 4>They're nearly late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds during the

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<v Speaker 4>various gold rushes of the Northwest, especially around the Seattle region.

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<v Speaker 4>Pike's Place Market that's built on that's built on a

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<v Speaker 4>shell midden mound site. Okay, Third Seattle Wow where the

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<v Speaker 4>coffee folks started their coffee company with the the logo

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<v Speaker 4>of the Babylonian fish goddess, right right, Nick?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what that is?

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<v Speaker 1>Say it again?

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<v Speaker 2>Which one Starbucks?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what.

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<v Speaker 6>I honestly think that could be a playoff of a

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<v Speaker 6>few of them. Like I I even had Nicks on

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<v Speaker 6>my show at one point, even cover Uh. I think

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<v Speaker 6>it was Mussolin And like my opinion she gave, she

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<v Speaker 6>gave a good case that it could be even that goddess,

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<v Speaker 6>and like I'd never heard of that one until until

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<v Speaker 6>she brought it to my attention. So I don't know,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know who, but it's definitely I think some

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<v Speaker 6>sort of you know, goddess from from the back of

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<v Speaker 6>the day. I don't think it was something new. It's

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<v Speaker 6>a playoff of something.

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<v Speaker 4>What was the one you just named besides the Babylonian

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<v Speaker 4>fish goddess.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it was Mussoline emmy su.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you spell that again?

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<v Speaker 1>M u s m E s U l I n

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<v Speaker 1>E I think em e l u s I.

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<v Speaker 2>Ny okay, I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be looking at it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's got a tight end with alchemy, I guess. And

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<v Speaker 5>that's it right there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yeah, European stuff, huh. Not Babylonian stuff. Eh oh,

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<v Speaker 4>this is a much later deity, huh. The Limburg Luxembourg dynasty,

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<v Speaker 4>the House of Andrew and their descendants, the House of

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<v Speaker 4>planted Plantagenet, which is, you know, every US president basically

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<v Speaker 4>in the French House of lusign I don't know how

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<v Speaker 4>to pronounce that. And for shorter periods of time, Yadi

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<v Speaker 4>Jerusalem folks, there are are set in folk tales and

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<v Speaker 4>medieval literature to be descended from Methuselah.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>What do we calling this thing? Melu sign maluse sign

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<v Speaker 4>The story combined several major legendary themes. Are you go,

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<v Speaker 4>nick such as something with an N, something with an

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<v Speaker 4>n water non for mermaid. There we go with fish goddess,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess the Earth being the genus or guardian spirit

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<v Speaker 4>of a location, the suckubiss who comes from the diabolical

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<v Speaker 4>or harbinger of death. Well, she's got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>She's got it. She's got a decent reserme right, she's.

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<v Speaker 5>Out there doing things.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but we were saying, is they mashed together different ones?

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<v Speaker 4>I could see the Starbucks people doing that too, right, right,

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, that's abidden mound site. So that that mound

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<v Speaker 4>site or that location for whatever reason, I'm not I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know why. But are you you all familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, they put they put on the.

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<v Speaker 4>hopped a right ontoy's bout comment? So they actually the

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<v Speaker 4>first thing Marshall apple White, the leader did and his

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<v Speaker 4>his nurse from the mental institution he left in Texas.

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<v Speaker 4>That that's who started that cult was Homeboy and his

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<v Speaker 4>about you know, five six weeks ago here and when

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<v Speaker 4>you join us for a previous fridays. They recruited out

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<v Speaker 4>of that small Oregon town, right, they went up to

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<v Speaker 4>they left Texas, went to the small Oregon town to

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<v Speaker 2>Other cult, the Holy Rollers of.

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<v Speaker 4>Edmin Credfield, right and Cradfield got murdered up in Pike's

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<v Speaker 4>of Pike's Place market and they bought the brick on

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<v Speaker 4>the site where Edmond.

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<v Speaker 2>Crawfield was murdered, the guy who started the cult.

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<v Speaker 4>That they that they comprised their cult with the core

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<v Speaker 4>original members of the Heaven's Gate Cult besides apple White

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<v Speaker 4>and his nurse were the descendants of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Cult, the Holy Rollers of Edmond Craffield. They were a.

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<v Speaker 4>Sex ritual sex you know, Holy roller, I guess is

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<v Speaker 4>the terminology describing. And they were just kind of roll

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<v Speaker 4>around on the ground, I guess during the religious ceremonies

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<v Speaker 4>and my understanding. So a lot of sex involved, Like

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<v Speaker 4>dude was banging everybody. I don't know what else, what

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<v Speaker 4>other kind of sex, but the leader was definitely I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>that's why I got murdered. He ran away with one

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<v Speaker 4>of the dude's daughters in the cult banging. Dude's wife

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<v Speaker 4>ran away with his daughter, and I was like, I've

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<v Speaker 4>had enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like if you start a cult, you're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be doing some shit like that though, right.

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<v Speaker 6>Like that's part of like part of like the reason

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<v Speaker 6>why you thought it Otherwise, Yeah, it's not like a real.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's just a religion.

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<v Speaker 1>It's supposed to be traumatizing, not helping, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think I think places like that like Pike's Place,

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<v Speaker 4>is somehow a very esoteric understanding from a number of groups, right,

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<v Speaker 4>not the least of which was the Starbucks folks, or

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<v Speaker 4>the or the Holy or the Heapits Gate folks. So

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<v Speaker 4>what other weird stuff is going on in Oregon these

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<v Speaker 4>days or in your regions they're in your research and activities,

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<v Speaker 4>there bt.

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<v Speaker 5>Not a whole lot. I was just I was just

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<v Speaker 5>actually just thinking about we were talking about the Evans

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<v Speaker 5>Gate there, and that was at a Waledport Organ in

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<v Speaker 5>the thank you, Yes, And I guess there was some

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<v Speaker 5>pretty crazy occult stuff going on over there. I haven't

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<v Speaker 5>really dived, yeah, but uh, I was just just thinking

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<v Speaker 5>about I mean, besides, well, you know, besides you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Applegate and and stuff. But they think the area was

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<v Speaker 5>on a on a lay line and it may have

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<v Speaker 5>had some kind of esoteric significance. That's why they were there.

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<v Speaker 1>I never looked at that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Walledport Organ, it's on the coast. It's been pretty yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>new agers and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so it does have it does have that reputation then,

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<v Speaker 4>right is that because of the Holy Rollers?

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<v Speaker 2>Though?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Because they were the ones who found in that town

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<v Speaker 2>is miner standing.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it could be that. It could be you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it could be Applegate. I mean it's people people spawned

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<v Speaker 5>to places just from word of mouth too.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, well at the time they at the time I

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<v Speaker 4>remember correctly, this is this is nowhere near like Portland is.

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<v Speaker 4>Here is the Corvallis huh and Eugene.

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<v Speaker 5>It's Waalport's on the coast, so south of or north

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<v Speaker 5>of port and south.

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<v Speaker 2>Of yeah right there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so the Holy Rollers were operating in Corvallis, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and then they threw them out of town. I think

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<v Speaker 4>that was nineteen thirty two, and I believe we'll just

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<v Speaker 4>look it up, don't. I think they were the ones

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<v Speaker 4>that founded this town. If not, there was like a

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<v Speaker 4>fishing town or something beforehand.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there was a lot of urching towns up and down,

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<v Speaker 5>especially south of the rivers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, people, you get a lot of that on that

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<v Speaker 4>coast then, huh right, two thousand people today apparently are

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<v Speaker 4>twenty ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>In September seventy five, Marshall apple White and Bonnie Nettles

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<v Speaker 4>gave a lecture in Walport on UFOs, which was attended

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<v Speaker 4>by roughly one hundred and fifty people. In the following days,

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<v Speaker 4>an estimated twenty residents, nearly one out of thirty people

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<v Speaker 4>who lived in the town, abandoned their homes and possessions

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<v Speaker 4>and joined their group.

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<v Speaker 2>Heaven's Gate, and Oregon.

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<v Speaker 4>State Police investigation concluded new laws have been broken. So

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<v Speaker 4>those twenty people were descendants.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the Holy Rollers. Wow, okay, yeah, I'm my understanding.

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<v Speaker 4>Most of the one hundred and fifty folks that were

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<v Speaker 4>in attendance at the the whatever the holiday in conference

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<v Speaker 4>center they rented out. You know what I mean, we're

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<v Speaker 4>part of that. We're descendants from that cult, which again

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<v Speaker 4>is weird. You're going to this obviously off the beaten

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<v Speaker 4>path town, especially in nineteen seventy five, right, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>it's off the beaten path now, right BT Oh.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, you have to be traveling down the interstate

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<v Speaker 5>Interstate one to be to pass back there.

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<v Speaker 4>And the coastline, correct me if I'm wrong. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>that's still largely unpopulated, right, the Oregon coastline.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I mean if we were to compare it

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<v Speaker 5>to California or anywhere on the East coast.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I mean Wallport's got tooth people. What's the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest one, cous Bay or Astoria.

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<v Speaker 5>Or Newport?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sorry about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard they're making a new Goonies, these sons of bitches.

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<v Speaker 5>A new Coonies.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're making Goonies. Josh Rowlan's probably rolling over in

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<v Speaker 4>his grave. I know he's still alive. But there's Goodies

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<v Speaker 4>is not the same without the original cast, and they're

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<v Speaker 4>all old. He can't put them in there. Now, what

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<v Speaker 4>are they what are they gonna do? The children of

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<v Speaker 4>the goonies. Oh yeah, interesting, Yeah, dude, the story has

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<v Speaker 2>Not very big.

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<v Speaker 5>Not really. A lot of our towns in Oregon aren't

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<v Speaker 5>all that big. I mean, he's Portland, Salem, Eugene.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it looks like at the time. It looks like

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<v Speaker 2>at the time.

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<v Speaker 4>In nineteen twenty, before the Holy Rollers moved into town,

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<v Speaker 4>there was one hundred and eighty one folks in Wallport,

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<v Speaker 4>and then the next decade they basically doubled that for them,

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and two percent increase. By nineteen thirty. That

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<v Speaker 4>was the Holy Rollers that moved into town. So they

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<v Speaker 4>didn't start it, but they largely took over the town.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all hope this dude's joke.

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<v Speaker 6>And someone said that Corey Felman is recording the soundtrack

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<v Speaker 6>for the new one.

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<v Speaker 4>That's awesome. I hope so due that'd be awesome. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Corey felt. I love it when Corey Felman thinks he's

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<v Speaker 4>a musician. It's one of my favorite things in life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's definitely entertating.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fair, dude, because he's so serious.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, his music video for Ascension Millennium. I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>sure I realized. I know that the title of that

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<v Speaker 4>song way too easily. Because I've watched the music video

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<v Speaker 4>a few thousand times. It's one of the best music

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<v Speaker 4>videos ever, dude, Because again, he's dead serious. He emulates

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<v Speaker 4>Michael Jackson out the entire film or the entire thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Sean aston An appearance as his role in the Goon.

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<v Speaker 4>He's handing home boy a map and inhaler right, and

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<v Speaker 4>then okay, I mean, are you all not familiar with this, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>this Corey Feldman classic. No, well, I've seen some stuff

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<v Speaker 4>with him. Let me let advancing and let let me

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<v Speaker 4>help you out with that.

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<v Speaker 6>You remember how he scammed so many people out of

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<v Speaker 6>like them thinking he was gonna come out and say

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<v Speaker 6>some crazy ship and asking for like donations and all

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<v Speaker 6>that stuff, and he was gonna chry h.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't that wild? Dude?

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<v Speaker 4>He raised hundreds of thousands of dollars on more than

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<v Speaker 4>one yo.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know what the funny thing is is part

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<v Speaker 6>of his reasoning for that is to pay for people

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<v Speaker 6>for protection. I'm like, times, you gotta pay people to

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<v Speaker 6>protect you to come out with this stuff, Like, come.

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<v Speaker 2>On, guy, he's always got so many stories, dude. Story.

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<v Speaker 1>When I heard that, I was like, oh, yeapathetic.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just cruising Twitter, you know, back in the

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<v Speaker 4>old Twitter days, around maybe July twenty seventeen, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, holy shit, Corey Feldman played it played a

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<v Speaker 4>rock concert at a double A baseball stadium in Pennsylvania

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<v Speaker 4>and there was like five people watching it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what is going on right now? Dude?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god?

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<v Speaker 4>So that was that was the first time I saw,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Corey Feldman as a musician, you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>got familiarized with this whole act.

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<v Speaker 2>BT, you're not hipped any of this.

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<v Speaker 5>I have none. No, I've never listened to anything like Corey.

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<v Speaker 4>But you're familiar with the legendary Corey Feldman though, right,

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yo, b had Arian Sajes James As. That's horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>H He's for sure. He's for sure all the way serious.

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<v Speaker 2>He's so serious.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he's lost band members over this. Remember he did

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<v Speaker 4>the whole Hugh Hefner thing, right, he had the whole

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<v Speaker 4>Corey's angels.

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<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, dude, he's I be Hugh Heffner.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dude.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I've been tracking. I've been Corey Feldman my reality TV.

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<v Speaker 4>I just watching when Corey Feldon does in life that

432
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<v Speaker 4>and John Hankley speaking of the things, John Hankley has

433
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<v Speaker 4>got himself a Jody Foster uh you know, uh, you

434
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<v Speaker 4>know stand in. He tweeted, I follow him on twixter

435
00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:23.279
<v Speaker 4>and I just you know, I like to retweet all.

436
00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:25.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm one of the few people that retweets his things.

437
00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:27.720
<v Speaker 2>You know. Not that feel bad for the guy. It's

438
00:22:27.759 --> 00:22:30.880
<v Speaker 2>more of a bit for me obviously. But he posted

439
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<v Speaker 2>a photograph yesterday of.

440
00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:34.519
<v Speaker 4>A young lady that he's seemingly hugging with a seemingly

441
00:22:34.599 --> 00:22:36.799
<v Speaker 4>calling his you know, his gal, and she looks a

442
00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:39.000
<v Speaker 4>lot like a young Jody Foster, just saying that's not

443
00:22:39.039 --> 00:22:40.839
<v Speaker 4>a good sight. It's not a good not a good

444
00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:45.319
<v Speaker 4>look for you, John, not a good look. You're all

445
00:22:45.359 --> 00:22:49.559
<v Speaker 4>familiar with the with him stalking Jody Foster, Right, I've

446
00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:54.640
<v Speaker 4>heard of go ahead, well, he claimed he murdered Reagan

447
00:22:54.680 --> 00:22:55.640
<v Speaker 4>to impress Joe.

448
00:22:55.720 --> 00:22:58.240
<v Speaker 6>Yes, yes, yes, I was gonna say, if that's the

449
00:22:58.240 --> 00:22:59.640
<v Speaker 6>same person, I have heard of that.

450
00:22:59.720 --> 00:23:03.799
<v Speaker 4>Dude, Yeah, that's that was Yeah, let me see what

451
00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:06.680
<v Speaker 4>I got, you know, I'll just me describing it. Doesn't

452
00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:08.160
<v Speaker 4>really do it justice.

453
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<v Speaker 1>Do you do it? You're still pulling up, Uh Feldman

454
00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:11.240
<v Speaker 1>or what?

455
00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:14.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I just took a quick teacher right here because

456
00:23:14.359 --> 00:23:16.839
<v Speaker 4>we were talking about the other assassination. I was whenever,

457
00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:19.240
<v Speaker 4>whenever I talk about Mark David Chapman, I get him.

458
00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:22.400
<v Speaker 4>And John Hankley confused my brain holes so much. And

459
00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:24.480
<v Speaker 4>I know there are different murderers and know they're different people.

460
00:23:24.480 --> 00:23:28.440
<v Speaker 4>I've actually encountered John Henckley in public, so I realized

461
00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:30.640
<v Speaker 4>these things are they're different people. But yeah, he's got

462
00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:34.759
<v Speaker 4>himself me and and my dear friend. It's like a

463
00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:40.880
<v Speaker 4>young Jodie Foster if you ask me, not a good look.

464
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<v Speaker 2>For old John.

465
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<v Speaker 4>Uh and as you wish they were Nick and Bt.

466
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<v Speaker 4>I'm glad I can introduce you to this.

467
00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:25.240
<v Speaker 3>Jit side Christ spiritual gangsters, showdy gay dude.

468
00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Look how much islander he's got here.

469
00:24:28.119 --> 00:24:29.559
<v Speaker 1>He came out of the shower with Eyeland.

470
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<v Speaker 2>This is before all the angels quit because.

471
00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:44.519
<v Speaker 1>I was at thirty three.

472
00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:43.720
<v Speaker 2>Videos. Fantastic.

473
00:24:46.519 --> 00:24:52.759
<v Speaker 4>You can hear how serious he is, Like.

474
00:24:52.839 --> 00:24:55.240
<v Speaker 5>Some dude wandering around the house of the smartphone or coordinate.

475
00:25:05.279 --> 00:25:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it only gets worse. This is bad, and it

476
00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:08.200
<v Speaker 2>only gets worse.

477
00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:11.039
<v Speaker 6>Did you like go into like some full on like

478
00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:20.599
<v Speaker 6>the thing down stays.

479
00:25:14.599 --> 00:25:27.119
<v Speaker 7>All right, got it through them to you, hailer, and

480
00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:29.519
<v Speaker 7>he went full blowing Michael Jackson immediately out of bed.

481
00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I've seen him trying to dance like him and ship.

482
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<v Speaker 2>Dude.

483
00:25:35.720 --> 00:25:39.920
<v Speaker 6>Oh wait, just wait, oh maybe this is gonna this

484
00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:41.079
<v Speaker 6>might be what I'm about.

485
00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Saw what the hand Michael Jackson did so sell with

486
00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:47.799
<v Speaker 1>the hands?

487
00:25:58.440 --> 00:25:59.039
<v Speaker 2>That's all you think?

488
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<v Speaker 4>It is about four five three. It's a low angle,

489
00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:05.640
<v Speaker 4>that's all I'm saying. That's a low camera angle.

490
00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:10.920
<v Speaker 1>D Who was the plan of walking around that pool

491
00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:11.440
<v Speaker 1>like that? Though?

492
00:26:14.680 --> 00:26:15.480
<v Speaker 2>This is this is great?

493
00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:47.960
<v Speaker 1>So I can't ye guy's dude shut there.

494
00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:53.559
<v Speaker 2>Like he is in the is the ceiling?

495
00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:54.160
<v Speaker 5>Right?

496
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<v Speaker 2>Bring a low budget music video? Clearly Corey's house, right?

497
00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:06.559
<v Speaker 1>Besides Charlie Sheen, I think I had some Michael Jackson

498
00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:07.160
<v Speaker 1>in them too.

499
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:10.279
<v Speaker 4>Who doesn't pick up some fresh eggs made by your

500
00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:30.200
<v Speaker 4>chef in the middle of music video. They spent all

501
00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:34.200
<v Speaker 4>their budget on this scene right here? All the band

502
00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:35.039
<v Speaker 4>don't quit after.

503
00:27:34.920 --> 00:28:06.839
<v Speaker 2>This music video the shitty green screen. Hm, So what

504
00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:11.640
<v Speaker 2>are you? What are your thoughts there? Chance? The words

505
00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:13.119
<v Speaker 2>don't even make sense, you know what I mean? Like?

506
00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:14.279
<v Speaker 2>What does that even mean? Man?

507
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:20.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's Corey Felton.

508
00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:23.640
<v Speaker 5>It's like he had trends of the body.

509
00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:25.119
<v Speaker 1>It's just saying in the mouth.

510
00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wonder if he was. I just assume.

511
00:28:28.599 --> 00:28:30.839
<v Speaker 4>I just assume he's medicated, you know, like Nick said,

512
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:31.759
<v Speaker 4>it's it's Corey Feldman.

513
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:34.400
<v Speaker 5>Definitely.

514
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:35.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

515
00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:37.160
<v Speaker 6>I raised up with a few hundred thousand dollars to

516
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:38.440
<v Speaker 6>tell you, Chellie, she fucked me.

517
00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:42.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. He does it every couple of years. It becomes scams.

518
00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:44.640
<v Speaker 5>But next to the.

519
00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Trailer she plays splits the money with him, He's like,

520
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:47.559
<v Speaker 1>let's do.

521
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:51.240
<v Speaker 2>It again, right, right, I wouldn't be surprised.

522
00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:52.799
<v Speaker 1>But he doesn't even do it. They're just like, let's

523
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:54.039
<v Speaker 1>keep going with it, you know.

524
00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:00.400
<v Speaker 4>So if he's if he's in Goodies too, I'm definitely watching.

525
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:06.200
<v Speaker 4>Have you doing the soundtrack? I'm all in, Oh, yeah.

526
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:09.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's he's fifty three. A lot of all those

527
00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:10.680
<v Speaker 5>guys are old. Those kids are old.

528
00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:14.599
<v Speaker 4>No, yeah, dude, Brawlin's got to be pushing sixty.

529
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:15.240
<v Speaker 5>Right.

530
00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:19.319
<v Speaker 2>He killed it and he killed it again. See he's

531
00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:19.920
<v Speaker 2>fifty seven.

532
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:22.279
<v Speaker 5>I mean, they might as well do something. I mean,

533
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:24.960
<v Speaker 5>they're doing another Karate Kid and they're bringing back dude.

534
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:30.960
<v Speaker 4>So come on, they're out of ideas. Man, it's ridiculous.

535
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:33.519
<v Speaker 5>That's what someone said to me, said that they're just

536
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:35.799
<v Speaker 5>re regurgitating old films.

537
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:40.319
<v Speaker 4>They've already redone karate Kid and rehashed it with a

538
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:42.799
<v Speaker 4>girl karate kid. They put in that queer Smith kid

539
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:45.319
<v Speaker 4>in there as a chinaman and Jackie Chan as a gentleman.

540
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:48.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they've got Jackie Chan and whatever that guy's name

541
00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:55.039
<v Speaker 5>they played Daniel in the original Karate Kid. Yeah, dude,

542
00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:58.279
<v Speaker 5>you got to raise a new karate Kid.

543
00:29:57.599 --> 00:29:58.319
<v Speaker 2>Daniel Russo.

544
00:29:58.839 --> 00:29:59.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's right.

545
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:03.640
<v Speaker 2>What's his real name, Ralph Maccio. Yeah.

546
00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:05.599
<v Speaker 4>He really didn't have much of a career in Hollywood,

547
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:07.079
<v Speaker 4>did he.

548
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:08.880
<v Speaker 5>He disappeared. I think it was just a kid actor

549
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:09.680
<v Speaker 5>and it was gone.

550
00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:11.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he aged weird.

551
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Who you saying?

552
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:15.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

553
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:20.839
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, uh, his family own If you.

554
00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:23.480
<v Speaker 5>Look at his picture, I mean he kind of still looks. Yeah,

555
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:24.279
<v Speaker 5>he looks like he's.

556
00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:26.920
<v Speaker 4>Plastic, That's what I'm saying, dude, I don't think he is.

557
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:28.960
<v Speaker 4>He just aged weird, I think right.

558
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:33.720
<v Speaker 6>You know him and his family owned a fuck ton

559
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:36.480
<v Speaker 6>of launder mats a Long Island.

560
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:42.480
<v Speaker 4>Oh, the matchios huh, Yeah, they are they connected.

561
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:44.680
<v Speaker 6>It was in Florida. It was one of the two,

562
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:48.960
<v Speaker 6>Like I know my my uncle, like no for a fact,

563
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:52.039
<v Speaker 6>but I can't remember if for a.

564
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Fact that that that they that they and I can't

565
00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:56.720
<v Speaker 1>remember if it was neither in Florida or New York.

566
00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:58.119
<v Speaker 2>But it was one of the seems like a good

567
00:30:58.160 --> 00:30:59.720
<v Speaker 2>way to lounder money through launder mats.

568
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

569
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.640
<v Speaker 6>Actually, and the reason why is my uncle's sister. My

570
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:05.759
<v Speaker 6>uncle's sister went to school with him and was friends

571
00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:08.000
<v Speaker 6>with him. But I can't remember now. At one point

572
00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:10.720
<v Speaker 6>they lived in Florida, So I just can't remember which

573
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:13.279
<v Speaker 6>city was in New York of Florida.

574
00:31:13.640 --> 00:31:14.319
<v Speaker 1>That's that's how.

575
00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:20.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Gary, Yeah, but Gary Coleman had that that little

576
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:21.480
<v Speaker 4>in that little person disorder.

577
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:24.839
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he actually had a thing.

578
00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:26.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

579
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:28.359
<v Speaker 4>I seen Rob Ralph Mancho. He was in Beer League

580
00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:30.039
<v Speaker 4>with Already laying hunh. That was a decent movie.

581
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:33.039
<v Speaker 2>I suppose decent movie.

582
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:39.759
<v Speaker 4>The yeah we well, I got lost in it.

583
00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:40.440
<v Speaker 2>Earlier this week.

584
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:44.039
<v Speaker 4>In a rabbit Oregon related rabbit hole because I was

585
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:47.920
<v Speaker 4>some I had a Google alert set up, an old

586
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:55.599
<v Speaker 4>Google alert, and for a homicide out of Salem, Oregon. Okay,

587
00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:58.119
<v Speaker 4>or are you familiar with the city of Salem.

588
00:31:58.440 --> 00:31:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

589
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:04.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've never been there. I've never seen what what's

590
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:04.839
<v Speaker 4>it like?

591
00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:06.480
<v Speaker 2>What are we talking? I know it's near Portland? Is

592
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:07.160
<v Speaker 2>it Portland? Like?

593
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:09.799
<v Speaker 5>No, it's down near not near Portland. Actually, what's really

594
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:10.720
<v Speaker 5>odd is uh.

595
00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:11.880
<v Speaker 2>What's it near?

596
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:12.680
<v Speaker 6>Uh?

597
00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:17.839
<v Speaker 5>It's city, right, it is the city. It's forty two

598
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:21.480
<v Speaker 5>minutes away from Portland. Yeah, well that's double that. That's

599
00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:23.039
<v Speaker 5>what I call it near Portland. But I see what

600
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:25.920
<v Speaker 5>you're saying. So it's all it's a whole different environment. Yeah,

601
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:29.759
<v Speaker 5>and it's uh the skyscrapers, which nothing's taller than the

602
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:31.720
<v Speaker 5>capital building. Yeah.

603
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:36.160
<v Speaker 4>So it's so what's the uh you have you visited there?

604
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:36.400
<v Speaker 3>Was?

605
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:39.440
<v Speaker 4>What's the what's their economic situation? Is it a rundown

606
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:40.680
<v Speaker 4>place or what are we talking here?

607
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:44.200
<v Speaker 5>No, Salem's not Rundown. It's it's the it's the center

608
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:45.480
<v Speaker 5>of politic in Oregon.

609
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:49.000
<v Speaker 2>It's the capital.

610
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:50.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's the capital of the state.

611
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:55.720
<v Speaker 2>They do capital stuff there right in Monroe County.

612
00:32:56.279 --> 00:32:59.519
<v Speaker 5>Uh, Marion, Marion County.

613
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:01.079
<v Speaker 2>There we go. I knew it was close to it.

614
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:03.960
<v Speaker 5>Very close. It's hard to see the words on the screen.

615
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:05.559
<v Speaker 2>But that's what I'm saying. So outside of the Capitol.

616
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:08.319
<v Speaker 4>The industry. There is no industry there, it seems from

617
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:09.519
<v Speaker 4>my from what I looked at.

618
00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Not really.

619
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:15.880
<v Speaker 5>No, yeah, every everybody.

620
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Government, but governments, the industry, right right?

621
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:25.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're living there and working in Portland or something.

622
00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:27.480
<v Speaker 2>That's all I was gonna ask, is it Is it

623
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:31.480
<v Speaker 2>a commuter town for Portland? Yeah? Because it's not that big, right,

624
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:35.920
<v Speaker 2>thirty thousand people? Maybe? Right? You got an enchanted forrest?

625
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:37.519
<v Speaker 2>What's that about? It's a theme park?

626
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:40.160
<v Speaker 5>Chanted Forest is the theme park's been there forever?

627
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you've been there.

628
00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:44.480
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, it's pretty, it's entertaining. I mean, it's pretty

629
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:46.279
<v Speaker 5>much just as fairy Tale Land.

630
00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:50.160
<v Speaker 2>I've never heard of the series Grim.

631
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:53.160
<v Speaker 5>Yep, Graham is a great show. It was filmed in Portland, Orgon.

632
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:57.519
<v Speaker 2>Okay, how about Portland? Ya? Was that filmed in Portland? Organ?

633
00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:00.359
<v Speaker 4>I do believe so, wouldn't it be weird? They filmed

634
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:05.359
<v Speaker 4>in like Vancouver, Canada or something? And well they filmed

635
00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:07.960
<v Speaker 4>the Hatfield of McCoy's T n T mini series with

636
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:11.639
<v Speaker 4>Kevin Coster and Gang. They filmed that in Romania. I'm like,

637
00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:13.519
<v Speaker 4>I was watching him like that ain't West Virginia?

638
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:14.519
<v Speaker 2>You know that?

639
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:19.039
<v Speaker 4>Ain't that ain't Logan County, West Virginia, you know, and uh,

640
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:21.280
<v Speaker 4>that's my that's some of Mike ken Folk and that story.

641
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:24.559
<v Speaker 4>For example, you'll see Big Badge in vance, he quote

642
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:28.079
<v Speaker 4>unquote enforcer of the Hatfield clan. That would be a

643
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:31.440
<v Speaker 4>Devil's Anne's uncle, Devil's Ann's Hatfield, the leader of the

644
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:32.079
<v Speaker 4>Hatfield clan.

645
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:32.599
<v Speaker 2>His uncle.

646
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:35.840
<v Speaker 4>He's allegedly the man who started the feud by killing

647
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:38.000
<v Speaker 4>one of the McCoy's. He was a he was a

648
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:40.679
<v Speaker 4>Confederate troop to McCoy was a Union troop, and uh,

649
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:43.119
<v Speaker 4>they had a dispute in the immediate aftermath of the

650
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:46.119
<v Speaker 4>Civil War there and he shot home Boy apparently.

651
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:46.800
<v Speaker 1>So.

652
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:49.199
<v Speaker 2>But anyhow, I was watching that, you know, I was

653
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:50.119
<v Speaker 2>watching the watching that.

654
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:51.599
<v Speaker 4>I don't watch a lot of TV, but I was,

655
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:53.159
<v Speaker 4>you know, I was kind of excited to watch that,

656
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:56.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, kind of a you know, story of mckenfolk

657
00:34:56.519 --> 00:35:00.159
<v Speaker 4>there and uh, in my home, my home there in

658
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:03.280
<v Speaker 4>Logan County, that's where my people hail from there, And

659
00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:05.960
<v Speaker 4>so I'm watching, I'm like, well, this isn't this isn't

660
00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:06.559
<v Speaker 4>West Virginia.

661
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll look come to filming location. It was Romania.

662
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:11.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm like why would you go to Romania to film

663
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:13.639
<v Speaker 4>a story about West Virginia. I mean, you want to

664
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:15.840
<v Speaker 4>talk about a cheaper place to film. I can't imagine

665
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:20.960
<v Speaker 4>Romania is cheaper than West Virginia. Yeah, yeah, I mean

666
00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:27.920
<v Speaker 4>talking about downtrodden economies, you know. Yeah, Bill Paxton or

667
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:29.760
<v Speaker 4>Bill Pullman, which one? I don't know.

668
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:34.000
<v Speaker 2>They're the same, They're the same guy if you ask me. No. So,

669
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:36.199
<v Speaker 2>I was looking at Salem. So isn't it odd that

670
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:36.480
<v Speaker 2>it is?

671
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:40.239
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's the political capital and center of Oregon.

672
00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:44.079
<v Speaker 4>At a lot of crime in that town, man, it's

673
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:46.519
<v Speaker 4>a lot of a lot of weird murders in that town.

674
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:50.639
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, Yeah. There was one where basically father killed

675
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:54.320
<v Speaker 5>his wife and then his like three kids. Yeah, and

676
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:57.079
<v Speaker 5>then they basically tore the building down in the land.

677
00:35:57.639 --> 00:35:59.480
<v Speaker 5>Somebody bought it and refuses to build on it.

678
00:35:59.519 --> 00:35:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Now.

679
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:03.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't know if I saw that one had.

680
00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:05.519
<v Speaker 5>That was years upon years ago, probably ten or fifteen

681
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:06.360
<v Speaker 5>years ago by now.

682
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I didn't get that far back. I went like

683
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:09.199
<v Speaker 2>five years back.

684
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:10.719
<v Speaker 5>Really interesting story.

685
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:13.719
<v Speaker 4>In the last five years, there's been a lot of

686
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:17.679
<v Speaker 4>weird murdering Salem, and the authorities act very strange about

687
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:19.039
<v Speaker 4>all of it. So, and the reason, this is how

688
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:21.599
<v Speaker 4>I got stuck in this rabbit hole. So, and this

689
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:23.159
<v Speaker 4>is why I had a Google alert for any of

690
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:28.119
<v Speaker 4>this nonsense. And early on, you familiar with the Idaho

691
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:33.960
<v Speaker 4>four case. I'm Nick's shaking his head like I was

692
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:36.800
<v Speaker 4>asking him. We've done about fourteen or fifteen hours on

693
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:38.639
<v Speaker 4>the subject on the occult rejects. I know, I know

694
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:41.000
<v Speaker 4>you're familiar with it. Nick, We've done even more on

695
00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:42.920
<v Speaker 4>my show. We've probably done it collectively, at least me

696
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:44.400
<v Speaker 4>and Nick together at least twenty hours.

697
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:47.360
<v Speaker 2>I'd say, oh, yeah, that is probably true. A lot

698
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:47.920
<v Speaker 2>we've had.

699
00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:50.400
<v Speaker 4>We've had Ron on a Fridays. You and I talked

700
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:53.679
<v Speaker 4>about an operation GCD. We've done seven shows with Ron

701
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:55.840
<v Speaker 4>right collectively there on.

702
00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:56.679
<v Speaker 2>All three of our shows.

703
00:36:56.760 --> 00:36:59.719
<v Speaker 4>So but yeah, So early on in the Idaho four case,

704
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:02.840
<v Speaker 4>long enforcement authorities in Idaho, this is this case they're

705
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:04.880
<v Speaker 4>trying to put on Brian Coberger up there with four

706
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:07.719
<v Speaker 4>homicides of college students in the middle of the night

707
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:12.920
<v Speaker 4>back in November twelfth, thirteenth, twenty twenty two. Right, so

708
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:16.559
<v Speaker 4>law enforcement authorities sums up their asses immediately, even though

709
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:18.800
<v Speaker 4>they declared itn't isolated targeted attack.

710
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Then they're like, yeah, we don't have a clue though,

711
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:21.599
<v Speaker 2>and then.

712
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:23.800
<v Speaker 4>Days later they're like, you know what, let's insert some

713
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:26.639
<v Speaker 4>conspiracy theories from the podium, and then we'll later yell

714
00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:29.920
<v Speaker 4>at folks for talking about conspiracy theories relative to this

715
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:33.840
<v Speaker 4>case while they are declaring they have no suspects and

716
00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:36.679
<v Speaker 4>need help from the public to i to even identify

717
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:40.480
<v Speaker 4>folks later slightly longer portion of the tail. But before

718
00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:42.159
<v Speaker 4>all that, you know, within two weeks of the murder,

719
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.039
<v Speaker 4>they're they're literally on the podium, the law enforcement authorities

720
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:49.000
<v Speaker 4>of Idaho saying, we're going to compare this, this murder,

721
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.360
<v Speaker 4>this home invasion stabbings, you know, alleged stabbings, because we

722
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:55.679
<v Speaker 4>don't that's what they're claiming in Idaho to a home

723
00:37:55.719 --> 00:37:59.519
<v Speaker 4>invasion in Salem, Oregan a of a couple that did

724
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:03.159
<v Speaker 4>not even fit the mode of operations of this crime whatsoever.

725
00:38:03.639 --> 00:38:04.880
<v Speaker 2>But law enforcement authorities in.

726
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:06.599
<v Speaker 4>Idaho were like, you know what, we're gonna go ahead

727
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:09.440
<v Speaker 4>and compare these and make sure they're not connected. That happened,

728
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:14.079
<v Speaker 4>I believe in August of twenty twenty one, right, and again,

729
00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:17.239
<v Speaker 4>Idaho authorities invoked this into their whole situation, and they

730
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:20.079
<v Speaker 4>even later days after that would say held another press

731
00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:21.920
<v Speaker 4>conference and say, you know what, we looked into it, folks.

732
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:23.039
<v Speaker 2>It's clear. It's clear.

733
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:26.280
<v Speaker 4>The people of Salem, Oregon, the authorities out there were like,

734
00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:27.760
<v Speaker 4>what the fuck are you talking about?

735
00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Right?

736
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:31.840
<v Speaker 4>Right, so, you know, I flagged the case just to

737
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:33.800
<v Speaker 4>follow it, and there was finally an update in it. Right,

738
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:37.719
<v Speaker 4>the family is suing the family the victims, you know,

739
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:41.639
<v Speaker 4>so August twenty twenty one, someone invades this home, you know,

740
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:45.679
<v Speaker 4>mid twenties, married couple of early thirties were the victims.

741
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:50.280
<v Speaker 4>Different mo very clearly a different mo when when the

742
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:52.280
<v Speaker 4>attacker comes in the middle of the night with a

743
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:55.840
<v Speaker 4>knife but wakes the couple up and fight ensues with

744
00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:57.880
<v Speaker 4>the man right he you know, he stabs the wife,

745
00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:00.679
<v Speaker 4>murders her, but is murdering the whole But I mean

746
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:02.679
<v Speaker 4>it was there was a large fight that ensued, right,

747
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:04.920
<v Speaker 4>And they were very clear about this from moment one.

748
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:08.159
<v Speaker 4>The authorities were right. So not the same situation in Idaho.

749
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:11.000
<v Speaker 4>There was allegedly no fight that ensued. I don't believe

750
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:12.920
<v Speaker 4>that story, but that is the narrative in which they're

751
00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:18.239
<v Speaker 4>spinning and you know, a silent, silent crime of quadruple homicide.

752
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:20.559
<v Speaker 4>But why they invoked this in the first place and

753
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:23.039
<v Speaker 4>beyond me. But that's what caused me to focus on

754
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:25.280
<v Speaker 4>this case. So the family of these victims from the

755
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:28.800
<v Speaker 4>August twenty twenty one incident in Salem, which has nothing.

756
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:30.639
<v Speaker 2>To do with Idaho, and again, why Idaho.

757
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:33.920
<v Speaker 4>Authorities decided to play that game is a different story altogether.

758
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:36.840
<v Speaker 4>But it's a real shit show there, bt you. You

759
00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:39.239
<v Speaker 4>don't need to you don't need you know. The long

760
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:42.000
<v Speaker 4>and the short of it is, there's some gross violations

761
00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:45.360
<v Speaker 4>of someone's rights. There's a lack of justice in the situation,

762
00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:49.840
<v Speaker 4>and it's gonna be a landmark case in the courts.

763
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:52.599
<v Speaker 5>Is this the one where they're trying to say that

764
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:54.280
<v Speaker 5>it was autism?

765
00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:57.760
<v Speaker 4>Well, the media is fun. There's such a propaganda machine

766
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:00.360
<v Speaker 4>behind this what the whole stitch situation?

767
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:01.920
<v Speaker 2>It seems to be an offshoot.

768
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:04.039
<v Speaker 4>Of an Iran contra type environment popping off up there

769
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:08.519
<v Speaker 4>in rural Washington, Idaho, and this Brian Coberger is the

770
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:12.800
<v Speaker 4>fall guy of the environment. When I say I ran

771
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:16.599
<v Speaker 4>contrace situation. There's literally individuals that were involved in Iran

772
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:18.800
<v Speaker 4>Contra and the money laundering that are involved in this

773
00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:24.559
<v Speaker 4>situation directly associated with the university president and directly associated

774
00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:27.320
<v Speaker 4>an owner of a co owner of a bank that

775
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:29.880
<v Speaker 4>was used for money lundering just one of the both campuses,

776
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:32.519
<v Speaker 4>which I which I alleged was the triggering event for

777
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:35.280
<v Speaker 4>the for the homicides in the first place. So there's

778
00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:37.719
<v Speaker 4>literally people from Iran Contra associated with this stuff, a

779
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:39.400
<v Speaker 4>lot of drug trafficking, it seems a lot of money

780
00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:43.320
<v Speaker 4>laundering rate, a lot of government intrusion. Right when I

781
00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:45.760
<v Speaker 4>say I ran Contra when the dominoes fell and I

782
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:47.800
<v Speaker 4>ran Contra, one of the people owning one of the

783
00:40:48.039 --> 00:40:51.159
<v Speaker 4>money laundering banks with the director of which in Miami, Florida,

784
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:53.920
<v Speaker 4>was the US Attorney for the Southern District of Florida.

785
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:56.519
<v Speaker 4>So the guy's supposed to be enforcing crimes is literally

786
00:40:56.519 --> 00:40:59.480
<v Speaker 4>the director of the CIA money laundering bank that's connected

787
00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:03.639
<v Speaker 4>his is co director, and that was f Lee Bailey,

788
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:07.119
<v Speaker 4>you know, the infamous OJA attorney amongst you know, Patty Hurst,

789
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:08.119
<v Speaker 4>amongst other cases.

790
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:10.440
<v Speaker 2>But you know, it's.

791
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:12.400
<v Speaker 4>Literally one of these kind of situations that seems to

792
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:14.599
<v Speaker 4>be going on up there in the Pacific, not far

793
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:17.360
<v Speaker 4>from you there in the Pacific Northwest, so, you know,

794
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:20.679
<v Speaker 4>distracting folks with other murders, that could be part of that,

795
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:22.719
<v Speaker 4>you know that, you know, don't look over here at all,

796
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:23.000
<v Speaker 4>you know.

797
00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:31.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Moscow, Idaho is quite a ways away from Salem, Morgan.

798
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:32.199
<v Speaker 4>Right, right, So why would you even connect the two, right, Yeah,

799
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:34.320
<v Speaker 4>it's like five hundred miles, right, six hundred miles.

800
00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:36.079
<v Speaker 5>It's an all day drive. It's an eight hour, eight

801
00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 5>hour drive. I mean, you're not even yeah, so, yeah,

802
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:41.000
<v Speaker 5>it didn't make any sense.

803
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:44.960
<v Speaker 4>So the family these victims in Salem, the google or

804
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:47.480
<v Speaker 4>I got was the family of these victims in Salem

805
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:51.159
<v Speaker 4>are suing the local government authorities because it has now

806
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:55.039
<v Speaker 4>been they didn't name the suspect which involved in the

807
00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:57.679
<v Speaker 4>actual murder out there, but long enforce. So when Idaho

808
00:41:57.760 --> 00:41:59.760
<v Speaker 4>invokes this ship with Salem, I don't think Salem had

809
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:01.679
<v Speaker 4>anything deal with what was going on because it sounds

810
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:04.360
<v Speaker 4>like they had their suspect the entire time, right, but

811
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:06.360
<v Speaker 4>they're sitting on they were sitting on that information for

812
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:10.800
<v Speaker 4>a different reason. So their suspect committed suicide. The person

813
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:13.639
<v Speaker 4>who apparently committed those crimes through through again the bloody

814
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:15.880
<v Speaker 4>scene that existed at the home at the murders, and

815
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:16.920
<v Speaker 4>that's in that situation.

816
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:19.840
<v Speaker 2>In August of twenty twenty one, he.

817
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:22.760
<v Speaker 4>Apparently the assailant apparently bled out a lot there two

818
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:25.239
<v Speaker 4>again as a bloody scene. According to law enforcement, they

819
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:28.920
<v Speaker 4>identified him with DNA to be this other fellow, this

820
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:32.480
<v Speaker 4>fellow that was uh you know, was under the guise

821
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:34.360
<v Speaker 4>of the state at the time, so to speak.

822
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:35.920
<v Speaker 2>He was on probation.

823
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:38.639
<v Speaker 4>He literally that same month, he just got put on

824
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:42.719
<v Speaker 4>probation for some felonies from earlier that year. And when

825
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:45.000
<v Speaker 4>later he get picked up for violating that probation months

826
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:47.719
<v Speaker 4>later and commit suicide instead of going to going back

827
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:50.559
<v Speaker 4>to court for that probation violation. So they knew who

828
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:52.800
<v Speaker 4>when the dude was in the fall of twenty twenty one,

829
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:54.639
<v Speaker 4>when he committed suicide, he just got a question of

830
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:57.599
<v Speaker 4>the crime and committed suicide right right, and the state's

831
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:00.639
<v Speaker 4>culpable because they were reliable for his activities and monitoring

832
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:03.920
<v Speaker 4>his activities because during that time when he was on probation,

833
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:06.440
<v Speaker 4>in the thirty days from when he got you know,

834
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:09.320
<v Speaker 4>from the the agreement, the play agreement to the sensing

835
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:11.800
<v Speaker 4>of it, he got pulled over like twice and popped

836
00:43:11.800 --> 00:43:14.800
<v Speaker 4>for marijuana with this probation officer. So they were ignored.

837
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:16.599
<v Speaker 4>Like what, I don't know what else is going on

838
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:18.760
<v Speaker 4>with why they're hiding this? But those are on its surface?

839
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:21.840
<v Speaker 4>Why right, but the families, I find an interest in

840
00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:24.159
<v Speaker 4>the family suing them. I just whatever went on with

841
00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:27.000
<v Speaker 4>comparing that crime to again that the distant crime to

842
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:29.760
<v Speaker 4>Moscow is beyond me, but it was. I thought it

843
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:32.400
<v Speaker 4>was very interesting. But so but the activities of the

844
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:34.519
<v Speaker 4>Salem authorities caused me to look a little bit deeper

845
00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:36.400
<v Speaker 4>in what's you know, just the I just ran a

846
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:39.079
<v Speaker 4>search on the murders in the town, right in the

847
00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:41.840
<v Speaker 4>last five years, a lot of strange murders, a lot

848
00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:44.440
<v Speaker 4>of strange political activity surrounding these murders. I was, what

849
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:45.800
<v Speaker 4>goes on in Salem, Oregon?

850
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Offles on that act? What's that people don't know how

851
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:54.639
<v Speaker 1>to act?

852
00:43:57.440 --> 00:43:59.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, man, I don't know, dude.

853
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:00.920
<v Speaker 4>Just you know, when you have a town that's the

854
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:03.960
<v Speaker 4>only industry's government and and you know, to me, you

855
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:07.039
<v Speaker 4>don't expect to see all these kind of activities, right,

856
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:08.000
<v Speaker 4>Like it's very odd.

857
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:11.679
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's the problem.

858
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:18.920
<v Speaker 4>That's what I was thinking, right, that's why. But it's

859
00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:22.360
<v Speaker 4>a conservative town compared to Portland, right, BT, yeah, big town,

860
00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:25.880
<v Speaker 4>because Oregon is largely well, I mean not, I wouldn't

861
00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:27.559
<v Speaker 4>say largely read. But there's still a lot of red

862
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:28.320
<v Speaker 4>voters in Oregon.

863
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:30.840
<v Speaker 5>Right, it's mostly red. It's it's just blue in the

864
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:38.880
<v Speaker 5>big big the main hub CITI is Portland, Eugene, Corvallis, Bend,

865
00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:43.519
<v Speaker 5>basically wherever we've got a massive amount of population, that's usually.

866
00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:47.199
<v Speaker 5>But if you look out in the country and you

867
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:49.000
<v Speaker 5>know out here the sticks where we live, and everybody

868
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:49.639
<v Speaker 5>votes read.

869
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:55.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, everyone's always worried about protecting the integrities of investigations,

870
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:58.639
<v Speaker 4>especially that Idaho case, which is just a.

871
00:44:58.000 --> 00:44:59.639
<v Speaker 2>Common like political term just.

872
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:02.320
<v Speaker 4>To say, oh no, we were worried about the integrity

873
00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:04.880
<v Speaker 4>of this investigation. Now we're going to release the JFK

874
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:07.440
<v Speaker 4>documents tomorrow, and we're gonna release the Epstein document too.

875
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:10.400
<v Speaker 4>I mean, like you can trust us. It's the same

876
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:14.639
<v Speaker 4>line of nonsense, right, But I just have you seen

877
00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:17.760
<v Speaker 4>have you seen any kind of besides the one strange

878
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:20.760
<v Speaker 4>murder there in Salem from Marion County, have you seen

879
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:24.599
<v Speaker 4>any strange political intersection with murders in the in that area.

880
00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:29.320
<v Speaker 5>No, I mean, I mean we had like a case,

881
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:36.719
<v Speaker 5>oh I think it was her name's like Amy Robertson

882
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:40.159
<v Speaker 5>or something like that. She killed her son, Amy roberts Yeah,

883
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:44.960
<v Speaker 5>she killed her son. And that was. That was way

884
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:47.760
<v Speaker 5>back in like twenty seventeen. And I guess they've revisited

885
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:50.599
<v Speaker 5>last year, and so they're going to basically keep her

886
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:54.440
<v Speaker 5>in the Salem mental hospital because she's insane or something.

887
00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:56.719
<v Speaker 5>Well a quote unquote, and.

888
00:45:56.719 --> 00:45:57.719
<v Speaker 2>We want to double check on that.

889
00:45:57.880 --> 00:46:01.079
<v Speaker 4>Allegedly, the guy in our introduction The Night Flow, Jared Visa,

890
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:03.800
<v Speaker 4>allegedly he's in a mental hospital in Connecticut.

891
00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:05.239
<v Speaker 2>However I can't confirm that.

892
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:10.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean even today there was like a you.

893
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Can still be out looking for you, dude.

894
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:15.280
<v Speaker 4>Dude, Well how about this when I sent you that

895
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:17.360
<v Speaker 4>photo of the dead chicken, the headless chicken in my

896
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:18.679
<v Speaker 4>in my driveway there night?

897
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:19.480
<v Speaker 2>How about this?

898
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:21.559
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't even my immediate thought that that was Buffalo

899
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:23.639
<v Speaker 4>Jared until somebody had brought up to me later and

900
00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:25.320
<v Speaker 4>I was like, holy shit, why did I not think

901
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:25.559
<v Speaker 4>of that?

902
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:29.239
<v Speaker 2>You never know, dude, I don't know. I can't roll

903
00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:29.440
<v Speaker 2>it out.

904
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:32.119
<v Speaker 6>I suppose you just see him one night, like like

905
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:33.239
<v Speaker 6>peeking into the window.

906
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I had.

907
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:37.000
<v Speaker 4>I walked out of my my was walking my dog

908
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:39.159
<v Speaker 4>there and I BT and I just got home a

909
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:41.000
<v Speaker 4>couple hours prior, and I was, you know, sitting my

910
00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:43.079
<v Speaker 4>RV do you know, shaming away at the computer. I

911
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:45.840
<v Speaker 4>got out to take my dog for walking around the farm.

912
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:47.679
<v Speaker 4>And I don't live anywhere near anybody, dude, Like my

913
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:49.280
<v Speaker 4>nearest neighbor is a good quarterbile.

914
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:53.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Nixon, I can tell you for sure, for sure.

915
00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:55.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not on the wait anything. You're not like just

916
00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:56.119
<v Speaker 2>stopping by here.

917
00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:59.239
<v Speaker 6>No, No, that is one thing. Yeah, to get to you.

918
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:02.280
<v Speaker 6>It's like you specifically are.

919
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:05.199
<v Speaker 1>Going that way. Yeah, dude, get you got.

920
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:07.400
<v Speaker 6>I even thought that too, because it was something else

921
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:09.360
<v Speaker 6>you would tell me about. I think, like somebody like whatever,

922
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:12.119
<v Speaker 6>another story with your property or something. And I was like, yo,

923
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:14.119
<v Speaker 6>in order to come over here, you have to like

924
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:17.639
<v Speaker 6>be coming like you're coming here in this direction.

925
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:18.239
<v Speaker 1>For a reason.

926
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:22.559
<v Speaker 4>It was that cat, Remember that cat. I finally got

927
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:24.400
<v Speaker 4>it up. We've finally got it at home here just

928
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:26.400
<v Speaker 4>just the other day. But something someone dropped off a

929
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:28.960
<v Speaker 4>cat here like three months ago, like a three month

930
00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:30.400
<v Speaker 4>old cat about three I would.

931
00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:32.239
<v Speaker 2>Mean I'm guessing the age of the cat. It was

932
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:32.960
<v Speaker 2>a tiny cat.

933
00:47:33.559 --> 00:47:34.960
<v Speaker 4>But I've been you know, I've been feeding it and

934
00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:36.760
<v Speaker 4>giving a shelter for you know, for the last three

935
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:40.000
<v Speaker 4>months to get it home because I ain't living here,

936
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:42.840
<v Speaker 4>not that beast, not my trailer, not here, not now,

937
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:47.480
<v Speaker 4>not today. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. I

938
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:49.159
<v Speaker 4>gotta have a letter box in here. Dude, I'm not

939
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:52.679
<v Speaker 4>We're not doing that. We're not doing that. Yeah, Abnerraboy

940
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:54.480
<v Speaker 4>my dog here, he shuts outside. You know, he knows

941
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:56.199
<v Speaker 4>what's going on. He's not trying to shit in cyber

942
00:47:56.400 --> 00:47:59.719
<v Speaker 4>We're good on that conversation. So I'm not trying to

943
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:02.079
<v Speaker 4>have a cat around here, even though they got along fine.

944
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:04.400
<v Speaker 4>But I don't know how the cat got here. Someone

945
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:06.679
<v Speaker 4>literally would have had to intentionally bring that cat here,

946
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:08.320
<v Speaker 4>like that cat ain't traveling this.

947
00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:11.599
<v Speaker 2>Far, especially at that age. Oh yeah.

948
00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:13.440
<v Speaker 4>I came home and damn, like where the you know,

949
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:15.199
<v Speaker 4>the cat comes running out of the barn, you know,

950
00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:16.840
<v Speaker 4>next to my trailer. I'm like, why is there a cat?

951
00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:18.400
<v Speaker 4>Where did this cat come from? How did this cat

952
00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:20.360
<v Speaker 4>get here? And asking the.

953
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:22.599
<v Speaker 2>Cat like how did you get here? Cat?

954
00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

955
00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:25.320
<v Speaker 5>You number one suspects the cat.

956
00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:28.000
<v Speaker 6>Oh, like Jay, I mean, just for an old cat

957
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:31.119
<v Speaker 6>just across the property to get to your place from

958
00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:33.360
<v Speaker 6>the next one would be like a fucking mission.

959
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:36.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, dude, it would be like one of them like

960
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:39.559
<v Speaker 4>old mid nineties early nineties at Disney movies where they

961
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:41.719
<v Speaker 4>you know, they voiced the animals on Long Journey.

962
00:48:41.760 --> 00:48:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just like this old cat.

963
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:46.159
<v Speaker 2>Right dude.

964
00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:49.000
<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm saying is when I walked out of

965
00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:51.360
<v Speaker 4>there to night, I was like, fucking headless chicken next

966
00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:51.760
<v Speaker 4>to my car?

967
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:52.599
<v Speaker 2>What's this about?

968
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Can you send me this Nick?

969
00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:58.159
<v Speaker 5>What the fucking Nick's buying the chicken?

970
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:03.599
<v Speaker 4>I was like, like, I mean, and I'm very very

971
00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:05.719
<v Speaker 4>cognizant of the fact that an animal man brought it by.

972
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:07.719
<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't my dog. He was inside the trailer

973
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:12.000
<v Speaker 2>with me, right. You know. I did a I did

974
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:13.000
<v Speaker 2>a you know, a.

975
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:16.440
<v Speaker 4>Bootleg forensic study of the the quote unquote crime scene here.

976
00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:18.760
<v Speaker 2>It was.

977
00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:20.920
<v Speaker 4>It was a clean cut. It was a clean cut

978
00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:24.840
<v Speaker 4>of the head of this raccoon. Then no, it wouldn't

979
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:26.960
<v Speaker 4>been off or nothing. It was a clean cut. It

980
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:27.800
<v Speaker 4>was a clean cut.

981
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:31.360
<v Speaker 2>There you go, there, you go, there.

982
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:33.440
<v Speaker 5>You are you shutting did you shut the chickens head

983
00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:35.280
<v Speaker 5>on your door? When you dude?

984
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Haitian voodoo? That's what I's afraid of.

985
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:39.119
<v Speaker 4>The hate I do live out just outside of Little

986
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:41.519
<v Speaker 4>Porter Prince, Ohio. I was like, did the Haitians get here?

987
00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:46.519
<v Speaker 4>It's probably they're not like the They're not like the Sudanese.

988
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:48.199
<v Speaker 4>They're not good in the marathons, I don't think. But

989
00:49:48.679 --> 00:49:59.239
<v Speaker 4>maybe they made it out this far. The weasels man,

990
00:49:59.360 --> 00:49:59.840
<v Speaker 4>the weasels.

991
00:49:59.880 --> 00:50:01.599
<v Speaker 2>The I mean, again, it could have been it could

992
00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:02.159
<v Speaker 2>have been an animal.

993
00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:03.440
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I certainly left it out there for an

994
00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:05.639
<v Speaker 4>animal to get and it was gone a few hours later.

995
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:09.480
<v Speaker 4>So but again there was no apparent animal attacks to it.

996
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:13.559
<v Speaker 4>The head appeared to be cleanly cut off, you know,

997
00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:17.679
<v Speaker 4>again unclear, inconclusive, inconclusive.

998
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:22.679
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't even I was reading that.

999
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:25.360
<v Speaker 6>I was like, I don't even know what that.

1000
00:50:26.719 --> 00:50:29.199
<v Speaker 4>I didn't check the gender, the gender of the chicken.

1001
00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:30.400
<v Speaker 4>It may have been a headless cock.

1002
00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:41.079
<v Speaker 5>We call them circumcised, all right, circumcised that you want

1003
00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:42.920
<v Speaker 5>to look up something interesting, it might be.

1004
00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:44.639
<v Speaker 4>The curse of none at doll. They were they were

1005
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:47.239
<v Speaker 4>talking about the haunted doll. Robert on the cult rejects.

1006
00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:49.039
<v Speaker 4>Last night, I was like, I was in the chat.

1007
00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:50.559
<v Speaker 4>I was like, I'm out. I'm not going to stick

1008
00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:55.719
<v Speaker 4>around for this. Survived that situation once before. I'm not

1009
00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:58.159
<v Speaker 4>here to I'm not here to listen to those stories

1010
00:50:58.159 --> 00:50:58.440
<v Speaker 4>about it.

1011
00:50:58.480 --> 00:50:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I've lived that. I've lived that night.

1012
00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:02.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, whenever I hear.

1013
00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:04.679
<v Speaker 2>We live on. I don't know where this fucking chicken

1014
00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:05.800
<v Speaker 2>game from. I won't tell you that much.

1015
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:11.480
<v Speaker 5>No, you want to look up something interesting. Back in

1016
00:51:11.519 --> 00:51:14.519
<v Speaker 5>eighty nine, there was an there was a political murder. Well,

1017
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:18.280
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna say it was political murder. This guy it

1018
00:51:18.320 --> 00:51:21.960
<v Speaker 5>was the the department head of the organ's Department of Corrections,

1019
00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:27.239
<v Speaker 5>and they think that he was murdered to cover up

1020
00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:28.159
<v Speaker 5>the corruption.

1021
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:32.679
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well that sounds like a good reason to murder somebody.

1022
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:35.400
<v Speaker 5>Michael Michael Frankie or something like that.

1023
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:37.679
<v Speaker 2>Michael Frankie.

1024
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:41.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, f R A n K R n c k E.

1025
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep, yep, got him.

1026
00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:49.519
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this guy that was Yeah, this guy that they caught,

1027
00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:54.840
<v Speaker 5>uh Gable, Frank Frank Gable was the one that they

1028
00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:57.400
<v Speaker 5>said killed him. But he'd actually recently been declared innocent

1029
00:51:57.480 --> 00:52:00.519
<v Speaker 5>back in twenty nineteen. But he spent years in prison

1030
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:01.960
<v Speaker 5>for it. Thirty years.

1031
00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:06.880
<v Speaker 4>Nice, No, I was, I would say nice to the

1032
00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:09.440
<v Speaker 4>commenter from terror to talking about still laughing at the

1033
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:13.000
<v Speaker 4>picture from last night, the uh the Dragnet did an

1034
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:16.159
<v Speaker 4>occult eso terror review of the film Dragnet on Operation

1035
00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:20.000
<v Speaker 4>GCD live here on Wednesday night, So it was good

1036
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:22.440
<v Speaker 4>to I enjoyed it. You know, terror terror obviously is

1037
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:24.119
<v Speaker 4>having a having a good life out of still so

1038
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:26.840
<v Speaker 4>I you know, I highly recommend folks check that one out.

1039
00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:30.360
<v Speaker 4>It's you know, maybe maybe not necessarily immediately thought of

1040
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:32.679
<v Speaker 4>as a you know, in a cult, uh deeply a

1041
00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:35.679
<v Speaker 4>cult or esoterically understood uh movie, But I would I

1042
00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:40.039
<v Speaker 4>would argue, I would dispute otherwise, dispute otherwise. So Michael

1043
00:52:40.039 --> 00:52:44.360
<v Speaker 4>Frankie here, he was murdered under some pretty suspect circumstances.

1044
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:44.880
<v Speaker 2>You're saying.

1045
00:52:46.679 --> 00:52:49.679
<v Speaker 4>He was later appointed by then Oregon Governor Neil Goldschmid.

1046
00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:51.320
<v Speaker 4>So he came from New Mexico. He's a judge in

1047
00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:51.920
<v Speaker 4>New Mexico.

1048
00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Huh.

1049
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:54.920
<v Speaker 4>Right, so that's is I don't know, that seems a

1050
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:57.360
<v Speaker 4>bit unorthodox politically speaking, And to move in a guy

1051
00:52:57.440 --> 00:52:58.639
<v Speaker 4>like that allivted to Oregon.

1052
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:01.239
<v Speaker 5>Right, Well, I mean, and then to be in a

1053
00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:06.480
<v Speaker 5>completely different job rofile too, because yeah, you know, it's

1054
00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:08.920
<v Speaker 5>like you're not gonna be part of the bar anymore.

1055
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:10.239
<v Speaker 5>I mean, what's going on there?

1056
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:11.199
<v Speaker 2>Right?

1057
00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:14.119
<v Speaker 4>And he's probably himself in a whole different mafia situation

1058
00:53:14.239 --> 00:53:17.039
<v Speaker 4>up there, right, he's upset in the local boys, if

1059
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:23.760
<v Speaker 4>you will, right, I could see that being possible, So

1060
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:27.920
<v Speaker 4>it says. On January eighteenth, nineteen eighty nine, his body

1061
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:32.719
<v Speaker 4>was discovered outside the department's office building in Salem in Salem, Oregon,

1062
00:53:33.360 --> 00:53:37.599
<v Speaker 4>shading motherfuckers. An autopsy determined he had been murdered the

1063
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:38.280
<v Speaker 4>night before.

1064
00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:40.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh here we go.

1065
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:43.280
<v Speaker 4>A local criminal was eventually tried and convicted for the

1066
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:47.480
<v Speaker 4>crime and sentence a life in prison without parole. However,

1067
00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:51.440
<v Speaker 4>the convicted killer maintains his innocence, and several conspiracy theories

1068
00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:53.679
<v Speaker 4>have been advocated, claiming the killing was a murder for

1069
00:53:53.800 --> 00:53:59.000
<v Speaker 4>hire conducted by corrupt state prison officials. Threatened by an investigation,

1070
00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:02.000
<v Speaker 4>Frankie was conducted into prison management. Oh well, that's just

1071
00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:05.440
<v Speaker 4>that's just a silly conspiracy theory. Could anyone possibly believe?

1072
00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:07.039
<v Speaker 1>Right?

1073
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:10.519
<v Speaker 5>There aren't no coincidences as far as we're concerned.

1074
00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:13.480
<v Speaker 4>No all right, I'm out. I appreciate you bringing that

1075
00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:16.199
<v Speaker 4>to my attention. I'm not at all familiar with that there, BT,

1076
00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:19.320
<v Speaker 4>but I'm certainly interested in reading more about it, specifically

1077
00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:22.719
<v Speaker 4>because it happened in Salem, Oregon. That shady fucking plays Salem, Oregon.

1078
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:27.000
<v Speaker 5>Right, yeah, I mean the fact the body was you know,

1079
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:28.679
<v Speaker 5>he was killed the night before and then he was

1080
00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:34.639
<v Speaker 5>discovered in the morning. I mean, uh right, huh right, right,

1081
00:54:34.679 --> 00:54:36.920
<v Speaker 5>I'll say the building where people are lots of people

1082
00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:38.519
<v Speaker 5>are coming and going past that building.

1083
00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:41.559
<v Speaker 4>You mean to tell me the prison doesn't have You mean,

1084
00:54:41.599 --> 00:54:43.079
<v Speaker 4>tell me the prison doesn't have cameras BT.

1085
00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:47.280
<v Speaker 5>No, the Department of Corrections building that they're talking abouts

1086
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:49.960
<v Speaker 5>in downtown Salem.

1087
00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:51.639
<v Speaker 2>It's it's not here, not here where it's pictured.

1088
00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:55.039
<v Speaker 5>No, he's standing what looks like next to osp Oregon

1089
00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:59.679
<v Speaker 5>State Penitentiary. Uh yeah, he's the building where near there.

1090
00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:02.599
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, there would have been if it was there,

1091
00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:06.039
<v Speaker 5>there would have been, you know, cameras everywhere, something to

1092
00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:08.920
<v Speaker 5>see that. Yeah, CCTV. Anyways, it's the eighties.

1093
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:14.719
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, they'd have something, right, right, maybe even some

1094
00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:18.679
<v Speaker 4>sort of bird, an alert bird, maybe the crow. Perhaps

1095
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:21.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm obviously being facetious, but I feel like Oregon's behind

1096
00:55:21.840 --> 00:55:23.400
<v Speaker 4>the times in technology.

1097
00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:25.639
<v Speaker 5>That's what it feels like, right.

1098
00:55:26.039 --> 00:55:28.199
<v Speaker 4>Never been there. That's just been my assessment of the situation.

1099
00:55:28.519 --> 00:55:31.440
<v Speaker 4>The universe will not let me visit Oregon bt. I

1100
00:55:31.440 --> 00:55:32.760
<v Speaker 4>think I've shared that with you before.

1101
00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:35.360
<v Speaker 5>You don't want to come out here. So interesting.

1102
00:55:35.679 --> 00:55:38.960
<v Speaker 4>Every time I've tried do something has interceded in my journeys.

1103
00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:40.159
<v Speaker 5>That's interesting.

1104
00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I got done with.

1105
00:55:42.320 --> 00:55:44.400
<v Speaker 4>Work when I was doing some business, some Air Force

1106
00:55:44.440 --> 00:55:47.679
<v Speaker 4>business up in McCord Air Force Base.

1107
00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:52.159
<v Speaker 2>Into Coma, Washington, God done, God Done. Early.

1108
00:55:53.079 --> 00:55:56.239
<v Speaker 4>Intentionally was gonna spend the later afternoon and get some

1109
00:55:56.280 --> 00:55:59.119
<v Speaker 4>dinner down in Home of the Goonies in Astoria.

1110
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:00.519
<v Speaker 2>They're north in Oregon.

1111
00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:03.639
<v Speaker 4>And as I got down to Vancouver, Washington to cross

1112
00:56:03.679 --> 00:56:06.519
<v Speaker 4>the bridge into Oregon, there was like a twelve car

1113
00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:08.679
<v Speaker 4>pile up and the whole bridge was shut down. So

1114
00:56:09.239 --> 00:56:10.840
<v Speaker 4>I gave it an hour and a half and they

1115
00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:12.880
<v Speaker 4>hadn't really made any progress. So I'm like, well, looks

1116
00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:14.519
<v Speaker 4>like I'm not going to Oregon today.

1117
00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:19.480
<v Speaker 5>That's unfortunate, but that's okay, though I wouldn't want to

1118
00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:21.480
<v Speaker 5>deal with that bridge traffic either.

1119
00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:22.559
<v Speaker 2>Well.

1120
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:24.960
<v Speaker 4>The other instance, I was coming from the other direction

1121
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:29.559
<v Speaker 4>in southern Oregon and starting from in and around Chico, California,

1122
00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:32.239
<v Speaker 4>where a couple my dudes reside, my old Air Force

1123
00:56:33.199 --> 00:56:39.000
<v Speaker 4>dudes from for many years, do routine we routinely take

1124
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:41.800
<v Speaker 4>adventures about various parts of primarily California. But at this

1125
00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:43.719
<v Speaker 4>time we were gonna we intended to make it up

1126
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:47.239
<v Speaker 4>to Oregon. However, driving through the coastline up to Eureka,

1127
00:56:47.320 --> 00:56:50.599
<v Speaker 4>I discovered the Lost Coast Brewing Company. And this is

1128
00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:52.559
<v Speaker 4>back this is years ago now, back when I was

1129
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:55.639
<v Speaker 4>still a heavy drinker, and I didn't want to leave

1130
00:56:55.679 --> 00:56:57.119
<v Speaker 4>that town. It was a really cool town. So we

1131
00:56:57.159 --> 00:56:59.960
<v Speaker 4>really didn't make any further north. You know, that's putting

1132
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:02.280
<v Speaker 4>about an hour south of the of the border there

1133
00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:08.400
<v Speaker 4>on the coastline. Are you familiar with that town, Eureka, California.

1134
00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:11.559
<v Speaker 5>I'm not. Is that close to Creston City?

1135
00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:14.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've never heard of Creston City. I think got

1136
00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:16.000
<v Speaker 4>to the city from Star Wars. But did you just

1137
00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:21.960
<v Speaker 4>make that up like that? I never heard of that.

1138
00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Ohs, I apologize. So that is.

1139
00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Came from.

1140
00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Is where the Lords originated from? All right?

1141
00:57:33.840 --> 00:57:37.880
<v Speaker 4>It sounds like you're right, It sounds fictional. Well, let's see,

1142
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:43.719
<v Speaker 4>I don't know where. Oh that's literally right on the border. Okay, okay, no,

1143
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:45.599
<v Speaker 4>not quite, not quite that far.

1144
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:49.159
<v Speaker 5>Okay, not quite. I see where Eureka is, Okay.

1145
00:57:48.960 --> 00:57:54.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Eureka's Eureka's right here. Yeah, and then it is.

1146
00:57:54.679 --> 00:57:56.159
<v Speaker 4>So it's you know, and this is maybe a little

1147
00:57:56.159 --> 00:57:57.639
<v Speaker 4>bit more than an hour maybe, I guess maybe an

1148
00:57:57.639 --> 00:57:59.440
<v Speaker 4>hour and a half. Again, I didn't make any further

1149
00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:02.960
<v Speaker 4>than this, so you know, I discovered Mount Shasta on

1150
00:58:03.000 --> 00:58:06.039
<v Speaker 4>the way from Chico to the Caline, and a bunch

1151
00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:08.960
<v Speaker 4>of gigantic trees I'd never seen before. Then I got

1152
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:11.840
<v Speaker 4>pulled over doing one hundred and ten in a fifty

1153
00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:14.760
<v Speaker 4>five near those gigantic trees. Somehow, the cop and I

1154
00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:16.840
<v Speaker 4>just laughed at each other and I drove off after

1155
00:58:16.920 --> 00:58:20.119
<v Speaker 4>the after the brief discussion to slow down, and then uh,

1156
00:58:20.440 --> 00:58:23.719
<v Speaker 4>and then I discovered, uh, Eureka, California. It was a Eureka.

1157
00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:29.440
<v Speaker 4>This place is awesome exactly. Crescent City is. What's the

1158
00:58:29.480 --> 00:58:31.519
<v Speaker 4>mayor there, beat Lando Calrissian.

1159
00:58:32.280 --> 00:58:35.000
<v Speaker 5>I don't have no, that's awesome.

1160
00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:43.039
<v Speaker 2>The uh. I would like to make it do Organ sometime,

1161
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:44.239
<v Speaker 2>definitely not Salem though.

1162
00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:46.239
<v Speaker 5>Now you may get murdered.

1163
00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Dude, A lot of.

1164
00:58:48.880 --> 00:58:50.840
<v Speaker 4>Weird stuff goes on in Salem'm not gonna lie to you.

1165
00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:53.840
<v Speaker 4>It's up sounds like you you're well aware of though,

1166
00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:57.039
<v Speaker 4>because this Frankie murder already sounds pretty bizarre, right.

1167
00:58:57.679 --> 00:58:59.039
<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean there's a couple of other things. I

1168
00:58:59.079 --> 00:59:02.360
<v Speaker 5>think there was a fire bomb coming back in the nineties. Whoa,

1169
00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:04.559
<v Speaker 5>that was an interesting story I had to do with.

1170
00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:11.000
<v Speaker 2>I think it was lesbians of lesbian fire bombings.

1171
00:59:11.079 --> 00:59:13.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was like I think they were black.

1172
00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:17.880
<v Speaker 4>Or militant lesbian fire bombings. Yeah, something you're talking my

1173
00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:19.039
<v Speaker 4>language where we talked about.

1174
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:21.320
<v Speaker 5>I think it was, let's see.

1175
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:23.559
<v Speaker 1>Talking about all.

1176
00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:26.920
<v Speaker 4>I was, dude, I was actually going to talk about

1177
00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:29.119
<v Speaker 4>I was about to talk about domestic terrorism bombings.

1178
00:59:29.480 --> 00:59:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, relatives of a different group.

1179
00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:35.280
<v Speaker 5>We'ber twenty six, nineteen eighty two had Hee May Cohen's.

1180
00:59:36.440 --> 00:59:37.679
<v Speaker 2>Had He May Cohens.

1181
00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:41.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was her black lesbian and her friend Brian Mock,

1182
00:59:41.079 --> 00:59:45.400
<v Speaker 5>a white gay man with an intellectual disability. We're killed

1183
00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:46.280
<v Speaker 5>in a fire bombing.

1184
00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:58.480
<v Speaker 8>Interesting, some white suprema skinheads, interesting, is there?

1185
00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:00.480
<v Speaker 4>Well that's kind of when a cold end section with

1186
01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:02.760
<v Speaker 4>crime in Oregon. Have you has there been any satanic

1187
01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:05.360
<v Speaker 4>crimes you can think of, not since the seventies and

1188
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:08.519
<v Speaker 4>some serial killer activities, and my familiar with satanic activity

1189
01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:11.320
<v Speaker 4>in Oregon, but perhaps you know more than I do. Again,

1190
01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:14.239
<v Speaker 4>it's a it's a foreign land to me, a place

1191
01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:19.920
<v Speaker 4>I want to exist in thought and theory.

1192
01:00:20.920 --> 01:00:25.400
<v Speaker 5>I can't I mean other than like satanic panic stuff.

1193
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:29.039
<v Speaker 4>No, I don't satanic panic stuff. What are we talking here?

1194
01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:32.199
<v Speaker 5>I mean it was. I mean the satanic panic in

1195
01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:37.840
<v Speaker 5>the eighties nineties was pretty much, you know, nationwide, and

1196
01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:39.519
<v Speaker 5>I think there was SUBSTI was.

1197
01:00:39.519 --> 01:00:41.880
<v Speaker 4>There some specific incidents that popped off there, perhaps in

1198
01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:42.880
<v Speaker 4>around Salem.

1199
01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:45.760
<v Speaker 5>Probably nothing I can remember that would be trying to

1200
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:47.239
<v Speaker 5>think of things. I'd have to look it up.

1201
01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:55.199
<v Speaker 2>Located. What is that? Feral House Publications? Who that you

1202
01:00:55.239 --> 01:00:55.599
<v Speaker 2>know them?

1203
01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:56.280
<v Speaker 5>No?

1204
01:00:57.760 --> 01:01:05.280
<v Speaker 4>No, they're like the official processed church publisher Feral House.

1205
01:01:05.679 --> 01:01:08.400
<v Speaker 4>I believe the owner was a son of a CIA dude,

1206
01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:13.039
<v Speaker 4>maybe Adam Parfrey. Believe me since past he's real good

1207
01:01:13.079 --> 01:01:16.239
<v Speaker 4>friends with boyd Rice and Nicholas Shrek and Gang, you

1208
01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:19.159
<v Speaker 4>know sk this kind of this guy has what I'm

1209
01:01:19.159 --> 01:01:23.199
<v Speaker 4>talking about, right, Nick, Nicholas Shrek?

1210
01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:29.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that was uh O got Taylor Swift's look alike

1211
01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:32.199
<v Speaker 6>mother husband.

1212
01:01:32.599 --> 01:01:36.239
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah about that? That that conspiracy theory. Familiar with

1213
01:01:36.280 --> 01:01:36.719
<v Speaker 4>that one there?

1214
01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:39.840
<v Speaker 6>Bt Yeah, I mean I'm not into is normally stuff

1215
01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:41.920
<v Speaker 6>like that, but I do think they do look alike.

1216
01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:48.159
<v Speaker 2>I guess he. I guess he would be. He could

1217
01:01:48.199 --> 01:01:52.159
<v Speaker 2>he could be the father in that equation. Huh uh.

1218
01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:55.519
<v Speaker 4>The the conspiracy theory that Taylor Swift is the daughter

1219
01:01:55.639 --> 01:01:57.639
<v Speaker 4>of Xena Levey Anton Levy's daughter.

1220
01:01:57.920 --> 01:02:00.119
<v Speaker 5>Oh, I've heard that. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. Ye

1221
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:03.199
<v Speaker 5>be kind of cool, I guess, I mean from one perspective.

1222
01:02:04.679 --> 01:02:07.000
<v Speaker 5>But I thought Faral House Publishing was in Washington.

1223
01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:10.519
<v Speaker 2>Are they Okay? I thought they were in Oregon. My mistake.

1224
01:02:10.559 --> 01:02:13.239
<v Speaker 5>They're good, sir, No, I think they're I don't know where.

1225
01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:16.360
<v Speaker 5>I thought I heard him in Washington somewhere. You have

1226
01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:17.000
<v Speaker 5>to look that up.

1227
01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Well they, I mean, they may have moved. Also. I

1228
01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:22.360
<v Speaker 2>believe far Free from Oregon. There.

1229
01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:24.440
<v Speaker 5>It came from Los Angeles.

1230
01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles, Yeah, the city of Angels.

1231
01:02:28.599 --> 01:02:29.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the Farreal House Publishing.

1232
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:32.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're right. It's definitely in poor towns. And that's

1233
01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:35.119
<v Speaker 2>nowhere near Oregon, is it? Holy smokes? His I off.

1234
01:02:38.039 --> 01:02:41.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the symbolism between these two are the similarities between

1235
01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:45.039
<v Speaker 5>two that at these two is really uncanny. But I mean,

1236
01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:49.400
<v Speaker 5>these days it's it's like everybody's like related fifty second cousins.

1237
01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:52.960
<v Speaker 4>You know, Wait a second, are you telling me we're related?

1238
01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:56.119
<v Speaker 4>We're both scotsmen. Heck, yeah, I don't know. I don't

1239
01:02:56.159 --> 01:02:59.320
<v Speaker 4>think I'm a member of Clan Wallace, though we're all.

1240
01:02:59.119 --> 01:03:01.039
<v Speaker 5>We're all related by the fifty second cousin.

1241
01:03:01.840 --> 01:03:04.280
<v Speaker 2>How to say that you're Alfred?

1242
01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:08.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, they probably intersect for sure, but I don't know.

1243
01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:14.039
<v Speaker 4>That is a pretty uncanny resemblance, right right, But yeah, Parfrey's.

1244
01:03:13.639 --> 01:03:14.679
<v Speaker 2>Indep of that whole crowd.

1245
01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:17.840
<v Speaker 4>He like I said, he was friends with Zela Levy's husband,

1246
01:03:18.239 --> 01:03:22.239
<v Speaker 4>her and her husband there in the first book they

1247
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:25.199
<v Speaker 4>published at Farrell House was The Satanic Witch in nineteen

1248
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:31.880
<v Speaker 4>eighty nine by Anton LeVay. Oh you know, they published

1249
01:03:31.880 --> 01:03:34.960
<v Speaker 4>about seventeen or so, I believe was my title count sixteen.

1250
01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Processed church books.

1251
01:03:36.679 --> 01:03:42.119
<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, like the official publication again Parfrey's past. I

1252
01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:44.320
<v Speaker 4>have no idea who runs this operation now, but I

1253
01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:46.960
<v Speaker 4>believe his father was an OSS guy or a CIA dude.

1254
01:03:48.960 --> 01:03:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Porfrey, y'all y'all familiar with this.

1255
01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:53.800
<v Speaker 5>Guy from fifty seven to Yeah, he'd be Cia.

1256
01:03:55.880 --> 01:04:00.599
<v Speaker 2>No, his his father, His father was a Yeah, I.

1257
01:04:00.519 --> 01:04:02.440
<v Speaker 4>Think that's how this. He used to talk about it.

1258
01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:04.480
<v Speaker 4>From my I think I think I heard an interview

1259
01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:05.480
<v Speaker 4>with him talking about it.

1260
01:04:07.639 --> 01:04:08.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why.

1261
01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:10.119
<v Speaker 4>I thought he lived in Port Towns and I thought

1262
01:04:10.119 --> 01:04:11.880
<v Speaker 4>in my brain hole it was Portland, Oregon.

1263
01:04:11.960 --> 01:04:16.480
<v Speaker 5>But you know whatever, it was, weird stuff happens in Portland.

1264
01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:18.679
<v Speaker 5>It's fine. I'm okay with you saying that too.

1265
01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Now I want to now, I want to know what

1266
01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:23.000
<v Speaker 2>goes down in Port Townsend.

1267
01:04:23.880 --> 01:04:24.360
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

1268
01:04:24.440 --> 01:04:27.239
<v Speaker 4>So uh, Nick, Tracy Twiney would have been involved in

1269
01:04:27.239 --> 01:04:29.440
<v Speaker 4>the same crowd right with Boyd Rice, Adam par Free,

1270
01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:32.559
<v Speaker 4>Nicholas Shrek. This is the same same cruise she would

1271
01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:34.800
<v Speaker 4>have run with there when she was Boyd Rice's underling.

1272
01:04:35.519 --> 01:04:42.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that really is weird, right, that's me to say,

1273
01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:44.320
<v Speaker 1>like I like to hear.

1274
01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:49.840
<v Speaker 6>I knew of her and I even admitted it on

1275
01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:53.159
<v Speaker 6>the Occult Rejects because of her shrine work on the

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<v Speaker 6>Sure Sure and you know again, like I even did

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01:04:57.440 --> 01:04:59.760
<v Speaker 6>h double check a lot of her stuff. So that's

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01:04:59.800 --> 01:05:01.840
<v Speaker 6>that's why I did, Like you know, say, I kind

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01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:05.159
<v Speaker 6>of got some of my information from that, but besides that,

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01:05:05.440 --> 01:05:07.880
<v Speaker 6>besides that, I just don't know anything else about her

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01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:10.440
<v Speaker 6>from like things I've heard recently, and it just seems

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01:05:10.519 --> 01:05:13.719
<v Speaker 6>like the people she was associated with and what she

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01:05:13.800 --> 01:05:17.400
<v Speaker 6>was into, right, it's very fucking weird.

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01:05:17.639 --> 01:05:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Right, she she she, I mean, I.

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01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Don't know anything about her. I know a lot of

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01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:23.159
<v Speaker 1>people love that lady.

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01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:25.920
<v Speaker 6>I could care less what her real deal is doesn't

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01:05:25.920 --> 01:05:29.559
<v Speaker 6>make a difference to me. Right, supposedly she's not here anymore.

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01:05:29.679 --> 01:05:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll observe any sort of opinions in comments other than

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01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:35.360
<v Speaker 4>just discussing my interpretation from my perspective of some of

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01:05:35.400 --> 01:05:38.760
<v Speaker 4>the stuff she and I discussed, right, some of her work, right,

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01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:41.960
<v Speaker 4>we had communications about, you know, cortial communications. I didn't

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01:05:41.960 --> 01:05:44.280
<v Speaker 4>have any problems with the lady. We just we didn't

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01:05:44.280 --> 01:05:46.039
<v Speaker 4>see eye to eye on these subjects. For when were

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01:05:46.039 --> 01:05:47.920
<v Speaker 4>some stuff we saw, you know, I agreement song, But

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01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:49.880
<v Speaker 4>when it came to her work on the night standploor,

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01:05:49.920 --> 01:05:54.519
<v Speaker 4>we have a very hysterically different opinion on things. And again, say,

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01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:57.320
<v Speaker 4>what was your what was your take on her shriner stuff?

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<v Speaker 6>I thought, for the most point it was on point,

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01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:05.199
<v Speaker 6>there was a few cases that I know that she

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01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:07.679
<v Speaker 6>brought up that I could not find that existed, but

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01:06:07.679 --> 01:06:09.440
<v Speaker 6>there was like at least half of them I did

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01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:11.679
<v Speaker 6>find existed when I actually, like I made a pacer

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01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:14.519
<v Speaker 6>account because I wasn't gonna bring it. She actually was showing,

1306
01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:19.039
<v Speaker 6>you know, lawsuits or referring back to them a court right,

1307
01:06:20.039 --> 01:06:22.719
<v Speaker 6>So I wasn't that about to actually reuse that unless

1308
01:06:22.719 --> 01:06:24.559
<v Speaker 6>I knew I could find them myself. And I had

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01:06:24.559 --> 01:06:26.119
<v Speaker 6>to make a pacer account for that shit, and I

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01:06:26.119 --> 01:06:27.039
<v Speaker 6>found like half of it.

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01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Some of them didn't exist.

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01:06:28.719 --> 01:06:31.400
<v Speaker 6>Now I don't know if that's because it's hidden, it's bullshit,

1313
01:06:31.480 --> 01:06:33.559
<v Speaker 6>I don't know what, you know what, But I was

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01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:36.440
<v Speaker 6>able to corroborate at least like half of the half

1315
01:06:36.480 --> 01:06:38.360
<v Speaker 6>of the shit like that. And there was a few

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01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:41.679
<v Speaker 6>other things that she talked about the companies that existed

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01:06:41.679 --> 01:06:44.320
<v Speaker 6>I think in Brazil or wherever it was that I

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01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:47.239
<v Speaker 6>went and did find proof of and even found the

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01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:51.880
<v Speaker 6>did find video news footage of them even covering something

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01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:52.199
<v Speaker 6>that she.

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01:06:52.239 --> 01:06:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Was referring to. So I mean it was well done,

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01:06:55.880 --> 01:06:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I think for the most part.

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<v Speaker 4>No, and she, like I said, I had agreements on

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01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:03.239
<v Speaker 4>some things like we both had a very large interest

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01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:03.760
<v Speaker 4>for BT.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know who Tracy Twyman is.

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01:07:05.880 --> 01:07:07.360
<v Speaker 5>No, the name sounds familiar.

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01:07:08.280 --> 01:07:08.960
<v Speaker 2>She was. She was.

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01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:13.679
<v Speaker 4>She was actually from the Portland area. She was a writer, author, writer.

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01:07:13.800 --> 01:07:15.519
<v Speaker 4>She was a producer of Clyde Lewis the show Are

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01:07:15.559 --> 01:07:19.159
<v Speaker 4>you famember with Clyde Lewis? Yeah, yeah, producer for his show.

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01:07:19.719 --> 01:07:23.880
<v Speaker 4>She she died in her some you know, some dubious circumstances,

1333
01:07:24.079 --> 01:07:31.639
<v Speaker 4>you know, allegedly of suicide and July of twenty nineteen. Anyhow, Yeah,

1334
01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:34.239
<v Speaker 4>she and I would exchange notes, you know, on the

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01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:36.440
<v Speaker 4>subject of John Podesta and the occult. She was she

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01:07:36.480 --> 01:07:39.079
<v Speaker 4>was keenly aware of John Podesta being deeply involved in

1337
01:07:39.079 --> 01:07:43.079
<v Speaker 4>the occult. Okay, she would she would, much like myself,

1338
01:07:43.079 --> 01:07:46.199
<v Speaker 4>would stock John Podesta, you know, you know, through whatever

1339
01:07:46.239 --> 01:07:48.880
<v Speaker 4>public activities he's doing, right, his schedules, if you will,

1340
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:51.199
<v Speaker 4>where he's talking, what he's doing, where he's going. That

1341
01:07:51.239 --> 01:07:54.920
<v Speaker 4>kind of stocking, not like physical stalking, right, I don't

1342
01:07:54.960 --> 01:07:56.000
<v Speaker 4>know anyone.

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01:07:56.760 --> 01:07:59.159
<v Speaker 5>Like what we do with the research and conspiracy.

1344
01:07:59.239 --> 01:08:02.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, if he's going, like for example, he was

1345
01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:05.679
<v Speaker 4>strangely talking down in New Zealand and at the same

1346
01:08:05.679 --> 01:08:07.719
<v Speaker 4>time as that New New Zealand shooting in March of

1347
01:08:07.719 --> 01:08:08.400
<v Speaker 4>twenty nineteen.

1348
01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Why was he there? Right?

1349
01:08:10.719 --> 01:08:14.039
<v Speaker 4>And she and Tracy Twyman attract a connection of something

1350
01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:15.960
<v Speaker 4>scribbled on the right, and that gives was one of

1351
01:08:15.960 --> 01:08:18.520
<v Speaker 4>those you know, first person shooter kind of perspectives with

1352
01:08:18.600 --> 01:08:21.520
<v Speaker 4>the shooter wore a camera or whatever, and you could

1353
01:08:21.520 --> 01:08:23.840
<v Speaker 4>see his rifle and he had a symbol on there

1354
01:08:24.319 --> 01:08:26.399
<v Speaker 4>that she connected to John Podesta.

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01:08:28.359 --> 01:08:31.199
<v Speaker 5>Wasn't she really big into like alpha met stuff? Is

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01:08:31.199 --> 01:08:31.960
<v Speaker 5>that who this is?

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01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:34.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So she bought, she bought

1358
01:08:34.680 --> 01:08:40.079
<v Speaker 4>in full scale on the Leo Leo some of the

1359
01:08:40.119 --> 01:08:45.399
<v Speaker 4>Tea Tangil tansel Leo Taxl, the Leo Taxl hoax of

1360
01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:48.119
<v Speaker 4>the Great Leo Taxle hoax of the late nineteenth century.

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01:08:48.119 --> 01:08:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Regarding this.

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01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:54.359
<v Speaker 4>Taxl, just was reciting stuff the Vatican published about the

1363
01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:57.680
<v Speaker 4>Templar back when they banished the Samplar. You know, again,

1364
01:08:57.840 --> 01:08:59.520
<v Speaker 4>when you're going to banish your enemy and steal all

1365
01:08:59.520 --> 01:09:01.600
<v Speaker 4>their money and wealth, you're not going to say nice

1366
01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:03.479
<v Speaker 4>things about them. We're like, yeah, these guys are queers

1367
01:09:03.479 --> 01:09:05.479
<v Speaker 4>and they banged each other because that's essentially what they say.

1368
01:09:05.479 --> 01:09:08.800
<v Speaker 4>And then on top of that, worship this bapha Met statue.

1369
01:09:08.439 --> 01:09:12.439
<v Speaker 5>Right, Yeah, yeah, I did a deep dive. Doctor Heather

1370
01:09:12.520 --> 01:09:16.199
<v Speaker 5>Lynn wrote a book recently about bapha Met and we

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01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:19.479
<v Speaker 5>talked about We talked about that on our show.

1372
01:09:20.079 --> 01:09:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean I was supposed to.

1373
01:09:25.640 --> 01:09:27.600
<v Speaker 5>Which which episode is that.

1374
01:09:29.359 --> 01:09:31.479
<v Speaker 6>Head, Let's ask me to get her probably like no

1375
01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:33.760
<v Speaker 6>lies six months ago. It was like right around the

1376
01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:35.319
<v Speaker 6>time I think the book came out, which could be

1377
01:09:36.640 --> 01:09:39.399
<v Speaker 6>And she was like yeah, yes, She's like yeah, hippy, yes,

1378
01:09:39.479 --> 01:09:42.079
<v Speaker 6>she's like email me, She's like instead of dming me here,

1379
01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:44.199
<v Speaker 6>and I think I totally forgot.

1380
01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh shit, okay, it happens. Yeah, that's very interesting.

1381
01:09:52.920 --> 01:09:56.159
<v Speaker 5>She was talking about the beginnings and the creation of

1382
01:09:56.199 --> 01:09:59.359
<v Speaker 5>the Baphomet as a as an icon and a symbol,

1383
01:09:59.439 --> 01:10:04.239
<v Speaker 5>and the origins of what's his name, Alphonse Lewis Constant,

1384
01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:09.720
<v Speaker 5>what's his pen name, Leo Taxil No, Alfonse Lewis Constant,

1385
01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:16.760
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, olips Levi that's it.

1386
01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yep, I got you.

1387
01:10:19.359 --> 01:10:23.279
<v Speaker 5>And so basically the creation of the image of what

1388
01:10:23.359 --> 01:10:27.399
<v Speaker 5>we look at Bapphamet today was his brainchild. Basically the

1389
01:10:27.439 --> 01:10:30.000
<v Speaker 5>image was nothing like that was like a goat of

1390
01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:32.199
<v Speaker 5>Mendy's or something like that. Beforehand.

1391
01:10:33.279 --> 01:10:35.520
<v Speaker 6>I have a friend who might come on to do

1392
01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:38.159
<v Speaker 6>kind of like a history or like a theory of

1393
01:10:38.199 --> 01:10:41.840
<v Speaker 6>his idea of like maybe where the pentagram ritual came from.

1394
01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:47.199
<v Speaker 6>And I think he does attribute him to possibly being

1395
01:10:47.239 --> 01:10:48.520
<v Speaker 6>a big part of it.

1396
01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:50.079
<v Speaker 1>Let us leave us.

1397
01:10:51.239 --> 01:10:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was.

1398
01:10:51.800 --> 01:10:54.079
<v Speaker 4>That's my understanding is he's the creator of the Bathroo

1399
01:10:54.079 --> 01:10:56.720
<v Speaker 4>met situation and a lot of the lot of stuff

1400
01:10:56.760 --> 01:10:58.119
<v Speaker 4>Growley borrowed from him.

1401
01:10:57.960 --> 01:11:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Right, well, the Bathot thing.

1402
01:11:02.920 --> 01:11:04.960
<v Speaker 5>Curly thought he was a reincarnation of.

1403
01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I guess that image. I would maybe that did, but uh,

1404
01:11:11.239 --> 01:11:12.479
<v Speaker 1>the idea.

1405
01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:14.079
<v Speaker 2>Of reincarnation right of him? Right?

1406
01:11:14.159 --> 01:11:14.399
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

1407
01:11:14.479 --> 01:11:18.159
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so would that make would that makes Timothy Leary

1408
01:11:18.439 --> 01:11:20.039
<v Speaker 4>a reincarnation.

1409
01:11:19.560 --> 01:11:24.159
<v Speaker 2>Of of by proxy? Because he claimed to be the

1410
01:11:24.199 --> 01:11:25.359
<v Speaker 2>reincarnation of Crowley?

1411
01:11:25.439 --> 01:11:31.880
<v Speaker 4>So it was an episode the timeline works out.

1412
01:11:31.880 --> 01:11:35.600
<v Speaker 6>There is David Wilcox fit in this somewhere saying he's

1413
01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:38.000
<v Speaker 6>a reincarnation. David Wilcox fitting this one way.

1414
01:11:37.880 --> 01:11:42.279
<v Speaker 4>Too, He's a he's a reincarnation of Yeah, the Sleeping

1415
01:11:42.319 --> 01:11:43.199
<v Speaker 4>Prophet guy.

1416
01:11:43.399 --> 01:11:44.439
<v Speaker 1>That was his Dave.

1417
01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:48.640
<v Speaker 2>I know, that's why I brought that up, The Sleeping

1418
01:11:48.640 --> 01:11:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Prophet guy.

1419
01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:53.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, why can't I remember the name.

1420
01:11:54.800 --> 01:11:58.600
<v Speaker 4>David Wilcox is a fucking He's Aloney Tune. He's Aloney Tune.

1421
01:11:59.279 --> 01:12:00.439
<v Speaker 6>The one thing I do want to say about the

1422
01:12:00.439 --> 01:12:04.000
<v Speaker 6>Baffa met thing though, that's that image pretty much. It

1423
01:12:04.199 --> 01:12:05.640
<v Speaker 6>was like the first one like that. But you know,

1424
01:12:05.680 --> 01:12:09.800
<v Speaker 6>the idea of Bohamett came before Elephant, way before even

1425
01:12:09.800 --> 01:12:14.159
<v Speaker 6>the whole Solveet Coagula thing. Heimrak Koumrath had that on

1426
01:12:14.199 --> 01:12:18.159
<v Speaker 6>his version of Wait way before, way before.

1427
01:12:18.119 --> 01:12:18.680
<v Speaker 1>This guy did.

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01:12:19.760 --> 01:12:25.319
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Edward case Edgar Casey. Yes, I've covered that fucking

1429
01:12:25.319 --> 01:12:26.039
<v Speaker 6>guy on the show.

1430
01:12:26.399 --> 01:12:27.920
<v Speaker 1>That's right, dude.

1431
01:12:27.960 --> 01:12:30.359
<v Speaker 4>There's a whole there's a whole like website or YouTube

1432
01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:33.199
<v Speaker 4>channel dedicated to all this stuff that like tracking David

1433
01:12:33.199 --> 01:12:36.520
<v Speaker 4>Wilcox's life, all these lies he's been got into depositions,

1434
01:12:36.960 --> 01:12:39.279
<v Speaker 4>these police body camera footages that come to his house

1435
01:12:39.319 --> 01:12:40.960
<v Speaker 4>for these obscure complaints.

1436
01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:43.239
<v Speaker 2>Dude, dude, I'm telling you, the dude is out there.

1437
01:12:43.319 --> 01:12:46.359
<v Speaker 5>Dude, Morgan, you know they might.

1438
01:12:46.279 --> 01:12:48.159
<v Speaker 2>Be from Oregon. Ship. I don't know.

1439
01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:52.000
<v Speaker 6>Uh, there was a there was like some site I

1440
01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:53.640
<v Speaker 6>can't remember it was back in the day. It was

1441
01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:56.159
<v Speaker 6>like some well known It was probably a bullshit site.

1442
01:12:56.199 --> 01:12:59.439
<v Speaker 1>See ie site who else, but back in the day,

1443
01:12:59.720 --> 01:13:01.039
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember the name of it.

1444
01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:02.600
<v Speaker 6>It was like some site that had like all this

1445
01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:06.960
<v Speaker 6>tons of like conspiracy shit, and uh, David Wilcox ended

1446
01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:09.560
<v Speaker 6>up like he admitted that it was him, but at

1447
01:13:09.560 --> 01:13:11.319
<v Speaker 6>first he wasn't acting like it was him. Like he

1448
01:13:11.399 --> 01:13:14.399
<v Speaker 6>put out something like I think called like the Helping

1449
01:13:14.439 --> 01:13:16.640
<v Speaker 6>Hand or something like or the Hidden Hand, something like

1450
01:13:16.680 --> 01:13:19.159
<v Speaker 6>weird like that, but it was about like this this

1451
01:13:19.479 --> 01:13:22.119
<v Speaker 6>entity that somebody was supposedly I think talking to that

1452
01:13:22.239 --> 01:13:22.960
<v Speaker 6>was bringing up the.

1453
01:13:22.960 --> 01:13:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Law of one.

1454
01:13:25.119 --> 01:13:28.159
<v Speaker 6>Way. It was a way for him to promote the

1455
01:13:28.239 --> 01:13:31.079
<v Speaker 6>law of one but not actually be David Wilcox. And

1456
01:13:31.119 --> 01:13:33.239
<v Speaker 6>then like eventually he comes out and admits that that

1457
01:13:33.319 --> 01:13:35.720
<v Speaker 6>he did that, and it's like, Yo, that guy right

1458
01:13:35.800 --> 01:13:36.319
<v Speaker 6>there just.

1459
01:13:36.279 --> 01:13:41.319
<v Speaker 1>Told you he's bullshited fucking people and you still drift. Yeah,

1460
01:13:41.359 --> 01:13:43.439
<v Speaker 1>Like he even like came out and admit that shit.

1461
01:13:44.239 --> 01:13:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's someone who was channeling raw.

1462
01:13:46.439 --> 01:13:48.399
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, because he was friends with those people that did

1463
01:13:48.439 --> 01:13:52.359
<v Speaker 6>that raw shit supposedly, like he like basically like he.

1464
01:13:52.439 --> 01:13:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Like lived there and earned his keep doing shit just

1465
01:13:54.920 --> 01:13:57.159
<v Speaker 1>so he could like hang out with them and watch

1466
01:13:57.159 --> 01:13:57.640
<v Speaker 1>what they did.

1467
01:13:58.600 --> 01:14:00.439
<v Speaker 2>Dude, he had a he did a music album.

1468
01:14:00.520 --> 01:14:02.960
<v Speaker 4>Come on, it's kind of if he's If he's worse

1469
01:14:02.960 --> 01:14:05.039
<v Speaker 4>than Feldman, will Cox should just end it all.

1470
01:14:05.199 --> 01:14:08.479
<v Speaker 2>I mean, no disrespect. Well, I guess some disrespect.

1471
01:14:09.279 --> 01:14:12.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's damn yeah with that guy.

1472
01:14:13.279 --> 01:14:16.560
<v Speaker 2>BT are familiar with the antics of one David Willcox, not.

1473
01:14:16.920 --> 01:14:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's great, yo, BT. You and your

1474
01:14:20.920 --> 01:14:22.640
<v Speaker 1>own little bubbles conspiracy, Well.

1475
01:14:22.600 --> 01:14:25.039
<v Speaker 5>I am completely in my own little place man.

1476
01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:28.640
<v Speaker 6>This guy actually he didn't realize conspiracies exist.

1477
01:14:28.720 --> 01:14:29.840
<v Speaker 1>He just thought of his own ship.

1478
01:14:30.920 --> 01:14:36.319
<v Speaker 4>Ye Oh, he's been doing all these grafts, dude for years.

1479
01:14:36.359 --> 01:14:39.000
<v Speaker 4>He's like bigging. He's the guy that's been doing the

1480
01:14:39.039 --> 01:14:43.960
<v Speaker 4>secret space program for years. The uh, the secret space

1481
01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:46.520
<v Speaker 4>program with the whole twenty and back to Mars. Oh there,

1482
01:14:46.600 --> 01:14:50.479
<v Speaker 4>thank you, Tara, the uh Are you familiar with that?

1483
01:14:50.479 --> 01:14:53.119
<v Speaker 4>That one, the twenty and back.

1484
01:14:54.359 --> 01:14:57.960
<v Speaker 5>No, you guys are giving me homework, is what you're doing, dude.

1485
01:14:58.000 --> 01:14:59.640
<v Speaker 4>How about the Blue Avians he invented. I think he

1486
01:14:59.680 --> 01:15:03.039
<v Speaker 4>invented the Blue Avian Aliens too, dude. He's been inventing

1487
01:15:03.079 --> 01:15:06.039
<v Speaker 4>all this ship for years with Fantastic he was on

1488
01:15:06.119 --> 01:15:07.840
<v Speaker 4>ancient Aliens now I think yeah, he was on ancient

1489
01:15:07.880 --> 01:15:09.079
<v Speaker 4>Aliens the TV show.

1490
01:15:08.840 --> 01:15:13.840
<v Speaker 6>Too, Yo, Ben had Harry just mentioned fucking Project Camelot.

1491
01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:16.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you remember that show.

1492
01:15:15.920 --> 01:15:18.439
<v Speaker 2>That where he came from No Project.

1493
01:15:18.039 --> 01:15:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Camelot handed as some of the shittiest fucking people.

1494
01:15:20.640 --> 01:15:23.880
<v Speaker 6>That like ended up like spinning spinning, like you know,

1495
01:15:23.960 --> 01:15:27.199
<v Speaker 6>like almost like the holy Grail of ideas and like

1496
01:15:27.319 --> 01:15:28.640
<v Speaker 6>dead ends answers.

1497
01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:30.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that seemed to be that seemed to be the

1498
01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:31.600
<v Speaker 2>purpose of that project.

1499
01:15:31.199 --> 01:15:33.119
<v Speaker 6>Right, Oh, oh my god, this stuff that they some

1500
01:15:33.159 --> 01:15:35.279
<v Speaker 6>of the people that they brought forth that handed you

1501
01:15:35.479 --> 01:15:39.359
<v Speaker 6>like the most ridiculous, like you're living in like a

1502
01:15:39.399 --> 01:15:40.680
<v Speaker 6>complete comic book.

1503
01:15:40.479 --> 01:15:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Matrix world believing some of those people. It is unreal.

1504
01:15:44.680 --> 01:15:45.279
<v Speaker 1>Some of the people that.

1505
01:15:46.239 --> 01:15:49.319
<v Speaker 4>I'll give you Blue Aliens as an example, right, Blue

1506
01:15:49.399 --> 01:15:51.000
<v Speaker 4>Avian Aliens, Blue Giant Birds.

1507
01:15:51.039 --> 01:15:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Dude.

1508
01:15:51.279 --> 01:15:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Max Spierz is another one.

1509
01:15:53.840 --> 01:15:55.520
<v Speaker 6>That guy is I don't know, like hasn't that guy

1510
01:15:55.560 --> 01:15:57.399
<v Speaker 6>actually gotten busted line.

1511
01:15:58.479 --> 01:16:00.520
<v Speaker 4>Max Spears, the other guy that defect his death. There

1512
01:16:00.560 --> 01:16:03.800
<v Speaker 4>were some black go stuff when that when that Max Spears.

1513
01:16:03.520 --> 01:16:06.039
<v Speaker 6>I know, there's like people that was associated with them

1514
01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:08.279
<v Speaker 6>that Will Cox ought of running with that. Eventually, I

1515
01:16:08.319 --> 01:16:10.800
<v Speaker 6>think I busted Like actually a liner came out and

1516
01:16:10.800 --> 01:16:11.800
<v Speaker 6>admitted that he was.

1517
01:16:14.319 --> 01:16:15.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Max Spears.

1518
01:16:15.119 --> 01:16:19.760
<v Speaker 4>The death of UFO investigator Max Spears caused controversy and

1519
01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:24.640
<v Speaker 4>amongst conspiracists, which led to reports from the BBC News

1520
01:16:24.640 --> 01:16:25.600
<v Speaker 4>and other news outlets.

1521
01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah he was.

1522
01:16:26.680 --> 01:16:29.119
<v Speaker 4>I remember this, dude, I remember this this happening because

1523
01:16:29.239 --> 01:16:32.479
<v Speaker 4>first of all, it's my birthday and uh, second of all,

1524
01:16:32.600 --> 01:16:34.479
<v Speaker 4>I was you know, remember reading this whole thing was

1525
01:16:34.600 --> 01:16:36.319
<v Speaker 4>like what black go UFOs did.

1526
01:16:36.399 --> 01:16:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Get the fuck out of here, dude, you know what

1527
01:16:37.920 --> 01:16:39.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean? Like that was my reaction, was he was?

1528
01:16:39.960 --> 01:16:41.800
<v Speaker 1>He the one that was also like somehow pointing to

1529
01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:43.319
<v Speaker 1>like the O t O about shit too.

1530
01:16:44.600 --> 01:16:46.600
<v Speaker 4>He's playing to be a super soldier, right, he was

1531
01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:48.960
<v Speaker 4>part of that whole Project Camelot movement. He's planning to

1532
01:16:49.000 --> 01:16:51.239
<v Speaker 4>be a super soldier, like Harriet was saying, just there.

1533
01:16:53.119 --> 01:16:55.520
<v Speaker 6>There was some guy Dan something that was on uh

1534
01:16:56.119 --> 01:16:59.159
<v Speaker 6>that was on Project Camelot that like like some wow,

1535
01:16:59.640 --> 01:17:01.039
<v Speaker 6>some of the people that went on there with some

1536
01:17:01.039 --> 01:17:01.840
<v Speaker 6>of the stories.

1537
01:17:01.880 --> 01:17:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Really what.

1538
01:17:05.960 --> 01:17:08.239
<v Speaker 2>BT are you familiar with the Project Camelot.

1539
01:17:10.479 --> 01:17:11.680
<v Speaker 1>I wish it was a way to actual because I

1540
01:17:11.680 --> 01:17:12.439
<v Speaker 1>don't think they're on YouTube.

1541
01:17:12.439 --> 01:17:13.720
<v Speaker 6>I wish it was a way to look up other

1542
01:17:13.800 --> 01:17:16.600
<v Speaker 6>episodes and if you went through all their fucking people,

1543
01:17:17.600 --> 01:17:19.880
<v Speaker 6>you'd be like, yo, everybody'd be like yo, you have

1544
01:17:19.960 --> 01:17:21.960
<v Speaker 6>those motherfuckers. I's not three quarters of them are all

1545
01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:22.960
<v Speaker 6>considered shady though.

1546
01:17:23.760 --> 01:17:25.039
<v Speaker 5>Is that the one that was supposed to be a

1547
01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:27.439
<v Speaker 5>counter and urgency.

1548
01:17:28.680 --> 01:17:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Funny gorilla style interviews?

1549
01:17:31.439 --> 01:17:33.640
<v Speaker 4>That's funny you say that because apparently the name Project

1550
01:17:33.640 --> 01:17:36.840
<v Speaker 4>Camelot it was the name of an Army program, Methods

1551
01:17:36.840 --> 01:17:41.239
<v Speaker 4>for Predicting and Influencing Social change and Internal War Potential. Yeah,

1552
01:17:41.880 --> 01:17:44.920
<v Speaker 4>from a counter insurgency study from nineteen sixty four. Well,

1553
01:17:44.920 --> 01:17:48.279
<v Speaker 4>it sounds like this telling this podcasting network maybe maybe

1554
01:17:48.319 --> 01:17:49.680
<v Speaker 4>an example of that project.

1555
01:17:53.039 --> 01:17:54.760
<v Speaker 2>I've never heard of that project before. Do you eat?

1556
01:17:54.760 --> 01:17:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Do you know about this? Oh?

1557
01:17:56.039 --> 01:17:59.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's another thing too. I never I never understood.

1558
01:17:59.920 --> 01:18:01.880
<v Speaker 6>A was like, Yo, why are you picking that name?

1559
01:18:02.000 --> 01:18:05.680
<v Speaker 6>And like align with one eye? Like come on really

1560
01:18:05.880 --> 01:18:08.720
<v Speaker 6>as a logo? I mean, I mean, I honestly think

1561
01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:10.680
<v Speaker 6>my opinion, I think her face got sucked up because

1562
01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:11.560
<v Speaker 6>she fucks with magic.

1563
01:18:12.479 --> 01:18:14.720
<v Speaker 2>She just probably should carry cassidy.

1564
01:18:15.439 --> 01:18:17.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and she was like, oh, you know what, I'll

1565
01:18:17.640 --> 01:18:19.600
<v Speaker 6>just turn this into gang stalking for a reason. A

1566
01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:22.479
<v Speaker 6>probably you know, suck money out of people's pockets because

1567
01:18:22.479 --> 01:18:23.039
<v Speaker 6>they feel bad.

1568
01:18:24.560 --> 01:18:26.960
<v Speaker 4>That's a good grift, right, Scarce, it's the It's the

1569
01:18:27.000 --> 01:18:29.680
<v Speaker 4>Alex Charon's grift, right, just scare people to buy your vitamins.

1570
01:18:31.199 --> 01:18:31.600
<v Speaker 5>Genius.

1571
01:18:31.680 --> 01:18:33.439
<v Speaker 1>You know what's a crazy thing now that's happening.

1572
01:18:33.880 --> 01:18:35.039
<v Speaker 2>They're getting the truth out here.

1573
01:18:35.079 --> 01:18:36.399
<v Speaker 4>But I think you got I think you were taking

1574
01:18:36.439 --> 01:18:38.960
<v Speaker 4>about Project Camel and Carry Carry Cassidy. It says right

1575
01:18:39.000 --> 01:18:46.960
<v Speaker 4>here on the website getting the truth out.

1576
01:18:45.079 --> 01:18:53.319
<v Speaker 5>Uh, you an apology, dude.

1577
01:18:53.319 --> 01:18:55.239
<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize she was still doing this. Look, she's

1578
01:18:55.279 --> 01:18:55.840
<v Speaker 2>everywhere too.

1579
01:18:56.119 --> 01:18:58.319
<v Speaker 1>You know what happened to when her and Bill broke up?

1580
01:18:58.399 --> 01:19:01.039
<v Speaker 6>Yo, That dude ended up going to somewhere like down

1581
01:19:01.119 --> 01:19:03.720
<v Speaker 6>in South America, and people followed him thinking that when

1582
01:19:03.760 --> 01:19:06.800
<v Speaker 6>there's twenty and twelve, shit was gonna happen, that the

1583
01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:08.720
<v Speaker 6>world was gonna end, but the area that they were

1584
01:19:08.720 --> 01:19:09.760
<v Speaker 6>in was gonna be safe.

1585
01:19:10.239 --> 01:19:14.960
<v Speaker 1>That was a cult. This show sprung up a cult

1586
01:19:15.199 --> 01:19:18.920
<v Speaker 1>where people literally moved down to South America because they

1587
01:19:18.960 --> 01:19:22.720
<v Speaker 1>believed from them the world was gonna fucking be in catastrophe.

1588
01:19:23.680 --> 01:19:25.560
<v Speaker 1>There's something wrong with that show.

1589
01:19:27.600 --> 01:19:29.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Well, I mean, like you're saying, it's pushing a

1590
01:19:29.560 --> 01:19:32.920
<v Speaker 4>lot of these ideas that seemed to coincide strangely with

1591
01:19:33.520 --> 01:19:34.439
<v Speaker 4>this thing you guys.

1592
01:19:34.199 --> 01:19:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Were aware of.

1593
01:19:34.680 --> 01:19:38.239
<v Speaker 4>But I just now learned Project Camelot. Right.

1594
01:19:38.319 --> 01:19:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're like, oh, why'd you split up? Why'd you

1595
01:19:39.920 --> 01:19:40.319
<v Speaker 1>split up?

1596
01:19:40.319 --> 01:19:42.840
<v Speaker 6>Because that guy just took the hardcore cult members and

1597
01:19:42.880 --> 01:19:44.960
<v Speaker 6>took them down south to see what the fuck's up.

1598
01:19:47.560 --> 01:19:50.439
<v Speaker 4>It says the project was executed by the Special Operations

1599
01:19:50.479 --> 01:19:52.319
<v Speaker 4>Research Office at American University.

1600
01:19:52.359 --> 01:19:54.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, I didn't what the fuck do they do? That's

1601
01:19:54.199 --> 01:19:54.680
<v Speaker 2>there in DC?

1602
01:19:54.880 --> 01:19:57.399
<v Speaker 4>That's an interesting not have to read about that place

1603
01:19:57.880 --> 01:20:01.000
<v Speaker 4>that's right by Common Pizza. You know, we're linebacker Buddy

1604
01:20:01.079 --> 01:20:02.279
<v Speaker 4>was hanging out.

1605
01:20:03.439 --> 01:20:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Linebacker Buddy. Oh fuck yeah, take a number from one

1606
01:20:07.760 --> 01:20:08.279
<v Speaker 1>to three.

1607
01:20:08.920 --> 01:20:12.000
<v Speaker 2>I was like, two, hey, you stopped and talked to him.

1608
01:20:12.319 --> 01:20:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, I gave one answer. I gave one answer. I

1609
01:20:14.680 --> 01:20:15.279
<v Speaker 1>gave one answer.

1610
01:20:15.319 --> 01:20:16.920
<v Speaker 6>Then when he started to pull it out the calendar

1611
01:20:16.960 --> 01:20:21.279
<v Speaker 6>and you're like, oh, we got no time, yeah too,

1612
01:20:21.319 --> 01:20:23.319
<v Speaker 6>I was like, oh no, he's gonna ask another question.

1613
01:20:23.920 --> 01:20:26.279
<v Speaker 1>And he said something like we don't got time for

1614
01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:27.119
<v Speaker 1>this anyway.

1615
01:20:30.520 --> 01:20:32.800
<v Speaker 2>They're hitting. Yeah, that's how that's how they get you.

1616
01:20:32.880 --> 01:20:33.960
<v Speaker 2>That's that's the hook.

1617
01:20:34.039 --> 01:20:35.760
<v Speaker 6>I was like, I really thought this was just gonna

1618
01:20:35.760 --> 01:20:38.039
<v Speaker 6>be like I thought I was gonna get like the

1619
01:20:38.079 --> 01:20:39.319
<v Speaker 6>punch line after that.

1620
01:20:41.760 --> 01:20:44.319
<v Speaker 4>Oh dude, I mean, you know he'd be quite honest

1621
01:20:44.319 --> 01:20:46.399
<v Speaker 4>with you that that individual is a good six foot

1622
01:20:46.399 --> 01:20:48.760
<v Speaker 4>four to two hundred and sixty pounds. It's not a

1623
01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:53.479
<v Speaker 4>small person, you know what I mean, he might if

1624
01:20:53.479 --> 01:20:55.279
<v Speaker 4>it chose to get violent. I mean, there was gonna

1625
01:20:55.319 --> 01:20:57.600
<v Speaker 4>be some violence. I mean, I'm not gonna say was

1626
01:20:57.640 --> 01:20:58.479
<v Speaker 4>harri than me too.

1627
01:20:58.720 --> 01:20:59.199
<v Speaker 2>They would have.

1628
01:20:59.119 --> 01:21:02.039
<v Speaker 4>Won, but you know, we would have been a fight

1629
01:21:02.319 --> 01:21:04.359
<v Speaker 4>we had had that had that because it was salty.

1630
01:21:04.399 --> 01:21:06.359
<v Speaker 4>Immediately for whatever reason I saw it coming, I was like,

1631
01:21:06.359 --> 01:21:07.760
<v Speaker 4>I don't want anything to do with this situation.

1632
01:21:07.880 --> 01:21:11.399
<v Speaker 1>You probably have to that little was that put that

1633
01:21:11.399 --> 01:21:13.800
<v Speaker 1>that that thing he was on. I have to beat

1634
01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:14.479
<v Speaker 1>him with the scooter.

1635
01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:16.439
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I have to beat him with That's what I'm saying, dude.

1636
01:21:17.119 --> 01:21:19.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying it could have gotten weird because it got

1637
01:21:19.800 --> 01:21:22.119
<v Speaker 4>salty real quick. Dude, Like bt, this may be a

1638
01:21:22.119 --> 01:21:24.039
<v Speaker 4>common occurrence in organ I don't know if you're in

1639
01:21:24.039 --> 01:21:28.520
<v Speaker 4>a deeply weird organ part, but you may encounter violent

1640
01:21:28.760 --> 01:21:32.720
<v Speaker 4>uh linebacker sized transgendered men, uh, you know, men dressed

1641
01:21:32.720 --> 01:21:35.279
<v Speaker 4>as women. When I say man, dressed literally just this

1642
01:21:35.399 --> 01:21:38.359
<v Speaker 4>huge dude with a dress on and a scooter like it.

1643
01:21:38.199 --> 01:21:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Was that he was a guy at all.

1644
01:21:40.399 --> 01:21:41.119
<v Speaker 1>He was not.

1645
01:21:42.880 --> 01:21:43.560
<v Speaker 2>It's ma'am.

1646
01:21:43.760 --> 01:21:47.239
<v Speaker 4>You know one of these characters, Harry Legs.

1647
01:21:47.359 --> 01:21:50.920
<v Speaker 1>He fucking practically appeared like me. It was fucking up.

1648
01:21:53.319 --> 01:21:56.840
<v Speaker 4>The uh the uh got p Thomas joined us here,

1649
01:21:56.880 --> 01:21:58.279
<v Speaker 4>looks like made it here?

1650
01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:00.119
<v Speaker 2>Nice ee there, P Thomas.

1651
01:22:01.039 --> 01:22:01.560
<v Speaker 1>It was it was.

1652
01:22:04.319 --> 01:22:04.960
<v Speaker 5>Here in the country.

1653
01:22:05.119 --> 01:22:07.359
<v Speaker 2>Encountered that origin well, Nick and I encountered in front

1654
01:22:07.359 --> 01:22:08.359
<v Speaker 2>of Common Pizza one day.

1655
01:22:08.960 --> 01:22:11.520
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's the whole thing too, have like of all places,

1656
01:22:11.560 --> 01:22:13.640
<v Speaker 6>of all places, because he's like yo, because he told me.

1657
01:22:13.680 --> 01:22:15.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was like, you gotta take me over there,

1658
01:22:15.159 --> 01:22:17.439
<v Speaker 1>I gotta see this place. And we go over there.

1659
01:22:17.479 --> 01:22:18.880
<v Speaker 1>We parked like on the side street.

1660
01:22:18.920 --> 01:22:20.800
<v Speaker 6>As soon as we come around, that's like what the

1661
01:22:20.840 --> 01:22:23.920
<v Speaker 6>store right before it, I'm like, I'm like, of course,

1662
01:22:23.960 --> 01:22:25.880
<v Speaker 6>this is the first thing I see as soon as

1663
01:22:25.880 --> 01:22:28.159
<v Speaker 6>I turned the corner to head to this place is

1664
01:22:28.199 --> 01:22:31.720
<v Speaker 6>some like six foot Harry tranny with a scooter asking

1665
01:22:31.760 --> 01:22:33.399
<v Speaker 6>me pick a number from one to three.

1666
01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:36.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, pick a number, yeah, I.

1667
01:22:36.239 --> 01:22:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Was like, true, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1668
01:22:41.079 --> 01:22:42.520
<v Speaker 6>He goes and then it looks like he's pulling out

1669
01:22:42.560 --> 01:22:44.199
<v Speaker 6>a calendar or some ship and then JJ is like

1670
01:22:44.199 --> 01:22:45.520
<v Speaker 6>literally he's like, I don't got time for this, so

1671
01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:48.039
<v Speaker 6>something to that effect.

1672
01:22:47.239 --> 01:22:51.920
<v Speaker 4>I know better, I've learned my lessons years ago. With

1673
01:22:51.960 --> 01:22:53.680
<v Speaker 4>these environments encounters.

1674
01:22:53.560 --> 01:22:56.239
<v Speaker 1>It has like a like a like gets on his scooter,

1675
01:22:56.399 --> 01:22:57.479
<v Speaker 1>like you know, there's like a.

1676
01:22:59.239 --> 01:23:00.640
<v Speaker 4>I was a bit of a count boy moving to

1677
01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:02.560
<v Speaker 4>DC years ago when I first got station there, and

1678
01:23:02.680 --> 01:23:04.920
<v Speaker 4>so when I you know, like there'd be a bunt, Like,

1679
01:23:04.920 --> 01:23:07.079
<v Speaker 4>for example, there was a bum that was just behind

1680
01:23:07.119 --> 01:23:11.199
<v Speaker 4>my apartment every night and the alleyway just fucking screaming

1681
01:23:11.279 --> 01:23:12.399
<v Speaker 4>every night, like two in the morning.

1682
01:23:12.399 --> 01:23:14.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this motherfucker does this again the night, you

1683
01:23:14.399 --> 01:23:14.800
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean.

1684
01:23:15.319 --> 01:23:17.319
<v Speaker 4>So, you know, I'd finally get out of bed and

1685
01:23:17.359 --> 01:23:19.079
<v Speaker 4>my back door was like my bedroom was right there

1686
01:23:19.079 --> 01:23:20.359
<v Speaker 4>on like my back patio on.

1687
01:23:20.279 --> 01:23:21.319
<v Speaker 2>My parking spot.

1688
01:23:21.600 --> 01:23:23.359
<v Speaker 4>So I'd get out there and I'm like, yo, dude,

1689
01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:25.840
<v Speaker 4>quiet it down, which obviously I didn't quite realize that

1690
01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:28.640
<v Speaker 4>just makes him get more bummy about life. Go get

1691
01:23:28.640 --> 01:23:30.560
<v Speaker 4>some more bum friends. They'll all come out at your

1692
01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:32.319
<v Speaker 4>outside of the door two in the morning. That's that's

1693
01:23:32.319 --> 01:23:34.800
<v Speaker 4>what happened. So I literally had to chase these guys

1694
01:23:34.800 --> 01:23:36.319
<v Speaker 4>out with a gun, and that's what it boiled down to.

1695
01:23:36.399 --> 01:23:37.920
<v Speaker 4>You know, I just took my pistol out there one night.

1696
01:23:38.159 --> 01:23:39.920
<v Speaker 4>Never saw them again. But you know what I mean,

1697
01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:42.159
<v Speaker 4>I realized pretty quickly, like you can't. You can't just

1698
01:23:42.199 --> 01:23:43.880
<v Speaker 4>ask these bums or tell them to get the fuck

1699
01:23:43.920 --> 01:23:45.039
<v Speaker 4>out of here, you know what I mean, that's just

1700
01:23:45.079 --> 01:23:46.680
<v Speaker 4>gonna incite more bummery.

1701
01:23:47.079 --> 01:23:51.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, so I you know, I, you.

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01:23:51.079 --> 01:23:53.479
<v Speaker 4>Know, I quickly that was my form of my early

1703
01:23:53.479 --> 01:23:55.960
<v Speaker 4>introductions of the quote unquote city of life there in DC.

1704
01:23:56.159 --> 01:23:58.319
<v Speaker 4>But I used to frequent New York City a lot,

1705
01:23:58.359 --> 01:24:00.680
<v Speaker 4>and I quickly found out you don't if someone comes

1706
01:24:00.720 --> 01:24:02.039
<v Speaker 4>up to you on the street up there trying to

1707
01:24:02.279 --> 01:24:03.520
<v Speaker 4>pedal their wares.

1708
01:24:03.199 --> 01:24:04.520
<v Speaker 2>You just don't even give them the time of day.

1709
01:24:04.560 --> 01:24:07.439
<v Speaker 4>Because dude, I had this guy follow me from Chinatown

1710
01:24:08.039 --> 01:24:10.880
<v Speaker 4>to Nick knows of these reference points at least Chinatown

1711
01:24:11.359 --> 01:24:14.199
<v Speaker 4>to to north of Houston Street or Houston, depending on

1712
01:24:14.239 --> 01:24:17.039
<v Speaker 4>where you're from. And that was a solid eight or

1713
01:24:17.079 --> 01:24:20.720
<v Speaker 4>ten blocks, right, Dude's trying to sell me an xtape

1714
01:24:20.760 --> 01:24:23.680
<v Speaker 4>the entire time, you know what I mean? After around

1715
01:24:23.720 --> 01:24:25.279
<v Speaker 4>block five or six, I thought I was gonna get

1716
01:24:25.319 --> 01:24:27.520
<v Speaker 4>stabbed and eventually around block eight or nine, we look, dude,

1717
01:24:27.520 --> 01:24:28.880
<v Speaker 4>if we're gonna go, let's just do this. I'm not

1718
01:24:28.880 --> 01:24:30.920
<v Speaker 4>You're not stabbing me, buddy, It's not happening, you know

1719
01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:32.720
<v Speaker 4>what I mean. I don't want your mixtape. I don't

1720
01:24:32.760 --> 01:24:34.880
<v Speaker 4>want to get stabbed. You go that way, I'll go

1721
01:24:34.920 --> 01:24:38.840
<v Speaker 4>this way, you know what I mean. So when I

1722
01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:40.960
<v Speaker 4>saw that linebacker in front of com of Pizza, I'm like,

1723
01:24:40.960 --> 01:24:42.800
<v Speaker 4>this is not a good Nope, Nope, I'm just gonna

1724
01:24:42.880 --> 01:24:46.640
<v Speaker 4>keep cruising. Linebacker and addressed in front of a dental operation.

1725
01:24:47.239 --> 01:24:51.119
<v Speaker 2>No, thank you. Yo.

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01:24:51.239 --> 01:24:53.239
<v Speaker 6>I have a feeling if anything's going on in there,

1727
01:24:53.239 --> 01:24:54.079
<v Speaker 6>I haven't feeling them.

1728
01:24:54.600 --> 01:24:59.279
<v Speaker 1>It's just a theory at the bar has something to

1729
01:24:59.279 --> 01:24:59.680
<v Speaker 1>do with it.

1730
01:25:02.640 --> 01:25:04.760
<v Speaker 4>Well, here's an here's the theory I had, And maybe

1731
01:25:04.760 --> 01:25:06.680
<v Speaker 4>you can tell me if this makes any sense to you.

1732
01:25:06.560 --> 01:25:09.399
<v Speaker 6>Because that was the only area that looks sketchy and

1733
01:25:09.479 --> 01:25:11.800
<v Speaker 6>like even the people behind there actually looked very different

1734
01:25:11.800 --> 01:25:14.399
<v Speaker 6>than everybody else working there, and.

1735
01:25:14.359 --> 01:25:17.239
<v Speaker 1>There was little stickers. There was a sticker. It's just you

1736
01:25:17.279 --> 01:25:18.159
<v Speaker 1>could tell like that.

1737
01:25:19.720 --> 01:25:22.079
<v Speaker 6>I just have a feeling that person kind of likely

1738
01:25:22.359 --> 01:25:23.439
<v Speaker 6>was the eyes and ears of that.

1739
01:25:23.439 --> 01:25:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Whole social the whole section is that area of that

1740
01:25:26.479 --> 01:25:30.239
<v Speaker 1>the lookout. I just think they're they're involved with whatever.

1741
01:25:30.239 --> 01:25:32.279
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to explain.

1742
01:25:32.319 --> 01:25:34.079
<v Speaker 6>I think if people were there and saw what I saw,

1743
01:25:34.880 --> 01:25:36.640
<v Speaker 6>I would say that was the one fishy thing when

1744
01:25:36.680 --> 01:25:38.439
<v Speaker 6>I was like, because that is like right before you

1745
01:25:38.560 --> 01:25:41.800
<v Speaker 6>get to the back, you know, there's there's the eating area,

1746
01:25:42.039 --> 01:25:45.000
<v Speaker 6>then there's the bar, and then you go on the back.

1747
01:25:45.439 --> 01:25:47.079
<v Speaker 6>Because I actually went I went back there, went in

1748
01:25:47.119 --> 01:25:49.199
<v Speaker 6>there and actually threw stickers up of the occult rejects

1749
01:25:49.199 --> 01:25:51.079
<v Speaker 6>in the bathroom. So I saw what it looks like.

1750
01:25:54.399 --> 01:25:56.840
<v Speaker 4>I like your heads at friend, I wasn't even considering

1751
01:25:56.840 --> 01:25:59.319
<v Speaker 4>mobile lookout with a tranny linebacker on a scooter, but

1752
01:25:59.359 --> 01:26:00.119
<v Speaker 4>that's probably.

1753
01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:02.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I I don't even know about that. But I'm

1754
01:26:02.119 --> 01:26:04.920
<v Speaker 1>just saying. I'm just say like I I just feel

1755
01:26:04.960 --> 01:26:05.239
<v Speaker 1>like that.

1756
01:26:05.920 --> 01:26:09.720
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, like they're I don't know, just my opinion,

1757
01:26:11.359 --> 01:26:14.079
<v Speaker 6>because I do. I do think that they're also involved

1758
01:26:14.399 --> 01:26:17.880
<v Speaker 6>with the bands that are coming there and playing there.

1759
01:26:18.720 --> 01:26:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh that dude, that whole blocks is sketchy place, dude.

1760
01:26:21.279 --> 01:26:24.159
<v Speaker 4>And when you have a band called sex Stains making

1761
01:26:24.239 --> 01:26:28.520
<v Speaker 4>jokes about pedophilia with a transgendered cross dressing mask wearing

1762
01:26:28.600 --> 01:26:32.039
<v Speaker 4>individual as the lead singer who is in a tenured

1763
01:26:32.039 --> 01:26:35.119
<v Speaker 4>professor of music at George Washington University there in DC.

1764
01:26:35.560 --> 01:26:37.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, I got a lot of questions, Yeah, a lot

1765
01:26:37.439 --> 01:26:38.680
<v Speaker 2>of questions.

1766
01:26:41.039 --> 01:26:43.479
<v Speaker 4>Heavy breathing, there we go. That's another one I believe

1767
01:26:43.600 --> 01:26:46.640
<v Speaker 4>was there. Yeah, that whole block suspect, dude, that whole

1768
01:26:46.680 --> 01:26:49.279
<v Speaker 4>block suspect. And again it's right by that American University

1769
01:26:49.600 --> 01:26:52.239
<v Speaker 4>where that Project Camelot was run out of with their

1770
01:26:52.279 --> 01:26:56.159
<v Speaker 4>special operations office there Why America is the Catholic university

1771
01:26:56.159 --> 01:27:00.239
<v Speaker 4>there right by Comt Pizza literally like right by It's

1772
01:27:00.239 --> 01:27:02.199
<v Speaker 4>like it's a quarter mile away the campus. It's not

1773
01:27:02.319 --> 01:27:13.880
<v Speaker 4>it's not for it all. Wow, very odd environment with

1774
01:27:13.920 --> 01:27:16.880
<v Speaker 4>that whole situation, you know, obviously never really been flushed out.

1775
01:27:16.880 --> 01:27:19.199
<v Speaker 4>But one of the thoughts I had early on was

1776
01:27:20.039 --> 01:27:23.920
<v Speaker 4>there's no OTO places anywhere around DC, right like meeting houses,

1777
01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:24.760
<v Speaker 4>lodge as, et cetera.

1778
01:27:24.880 --> 01:27:29.279
<v Speaker 6>Right, I don't know, because you remember, and I swear

1779
01:27:29.479 --> 01:27:31.880
<v Speaker 6>not making this up. Remember I told you I ran

1780
01:27:31.920 --> 01:27:34.239
<v Speaker 6>into that store District ninety three and I was like, nah,

1781
01:27:34.560 --> 01:27:36.880
<v Speaker 6>I can't be like associated with the OTO.

1782
01:27:37.680 --> 01:27:38.560
<v Speaker 1>And I walked in there.

1783
01:27:39.439 --> 01:27:41.840
<v Speaker 2>You did tell me about this, Please please explain.

1784
01:27:42.279 --> 01:27:43.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I walked in and I'm like, looking at it,

1785
01:27:44.039 --> 01:27:46.359
<v Speaker 6>I'm like nah, and I'm like I'm like, should I

1786
01:27:46.399 --> 01:27:46.720
<v Speaker 6>just go in?

1787
01:27:46.760 --> 01:27:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm like fucking what the fuck? Who guess?

1788
01:27:49.640 --> 01:27:51.279
<v Speaker 6>And I'm like looking at it, I can't even really

1789
01:27:51.279 --> 01:27:53.560
<v Speaker 6>tell what the hell it was. I think it was

1790
01:27:53.560 --> 01:27:55.399
<v Speaker 6>a weed vape store, but I didn't even know it was.

1791
01:27:55.520 --> 01:27:58.760
<v Speaker 6>I couldn't tell. And I walked in, but it did

1792
01:27:58.800 --> 01:28:01.359
<v Speaker 6>smell like weed too. So I walked in and it

1793
01:28:01.439 --> 01:28:04.279
<v Speaker 6>was just like one black dude standing behind the counter

1794
01:28:04.359 --> 01:28:06.039
<v Speaker 6>and he's like, oh, what's going on? I was like,

1795
01:28:06.079 --> 01:28:09.359
<v Speaker 6>I was just checking out the store and he's like

1796
01:28:09.439 --> 01:28:11.239
<v Speaker 6>look at me. He's like any you're looking for anything

1797
01:28:11.279 --> 01:28:14.479
<v Speaker 6>in particular? And then like two other dudes come from

1798
01:28:14.520 --> 01:28:17.119
<v Speaker 6>the back and I'm like, yo, you need some help?

1799
01:28:17.800 --> 01:28:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Something to low to that.

1800
01:28:20.239 --> 01:28:22.800
<v Speaker 6>It was something to that, yeah to that, not like that,

1801
01:28:22.840 --> 01:28:24.319
<v Speaker 6>but it was more of like you know, what's going on?

1802
01:28:24.399 --> 01:28:27.399
<v Speaker 1>Guy? And I'm standing there and like I'm like, weird suckers?

1803
01:28:28.880 --> 01:28:32.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, and like and like you know,

1804
01:28:32.880 --> 01:28:34.520
<v Speaker 6>in a split second, your mind can go through so

1805
01:28:34.520 --> 01:28:36.479
<v Speaker 6>many things, and I'm like standing there thinking, I'm like

1806
01:28:36.520 --> 01:28:38.840
<v Speaker 6>I don't actually have like an actual reason why I'm

1807
01:28:38.840 --> 01:28:40.359
<v Speaker 6>in here unless I come out and kind of say

1808
01:28:40.399 --> 01:28:42.319
<v Speaker 6>the truth, which could be a little fucking weird. But

1809
01:28:42.399 --> 01:28:45.000
<v Speaker 6>I mean they already think I'm probably weird, so what's

1810
01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:46.880
<v Speaker 6>the difference. Now Now they'll just think I'm a crazy

1811
01:28:46.880 --> 01:28:48.920
<v Speaker 6>white boy and they'll probably be like, just let him

1812
01:28:49.119 --> 01:28:49.760
<v Speaker 6>leave him alone.

1813
01:28:50.159 --> 01:28:51.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1814
01:28:51.079 --> 01:28:53.039
<v Speaker 6>So I was like, I was like, oh, I saw

1815
01:28:53.760 --> 01:28:55.760
<v Speaker 6>I said, I saw you sign and it says, you know,

1816
01:28:55.800 --> 01:28:58.079
<v Speaker 6>district ninety three. And then I put out my arm

1817
01:28:58.119 --> 01:29:01.560
<v Speaker 6>and showed on my Unicrystal Extagram and I showed him that.

1818
01:29:01.560 --> 01:29:06.640
<v Speaker 2>And they're like, oh ninety three brother, Oh they recognized that.

1819
01:29:06.800 --> 01:29:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah.

1820
01:29:07.439 --> 01:29:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1821
01:29:07.680 --> 01:29:09.560
<v Speaker 6>I was like, oh shit, okay. I was like all right,

1822
01:29:09.560 --> 01:29:13.239
<v Speaker 6>I was like ninety three ye yeah yeah, And then

1823
01:29:13.279 --> 01:29:16.000
<v Speaker 6>I was like, uh, I was like yeah, I was

1824
01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:18.640
<v Speaker 6>like just just wondering something.

1825
01:29:18.640 --> 01:29:20.359
<v Speaker 1>I forgot what I said, dude. It was so weird

1826
01:29:20.399 --> 01:29:21.680
<v Speaker 1>that I was like all right, and I turned around

1827
01:29:21.680 --> 01:29:22.199
<v Speaker 1>and walked out.

1828
01:29:22.079 --> 01:29:22.880
<v Speaker 2>And caught you off guard.

1829
01:29:23.079 --> 01:29:23.279
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

1830
01:29:23.319 --> 01:29:24.439
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't know where to go from

1831
01:29:24.479 --> 01:29:26.159
<v Speaker 1>this now. I wasn't thinking this far.

1832
01:29:27.239 --> 01:29:33.680
<v Speaker 4>Is this is this the establishment you're referring to? Yeah, oh,

1833
01:29:33.720 --> 01:29:35.560
<v Speaker 4>it's in the U Street corridor. Okay, I know we're

1834
01:29:35.600 --> 01:29:36.760
<v Speaker 4>sad right by Ben's Chili.

1835
01:29:38.279 --> 01:29:40.600
<v Speaker 1>It was in like a decent area that I thought.

1836
01:29:40.920 --> 01:29:42.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's it's gotten a lot better. It's gotten

1837
01:29:42.880 --> 01:29:45.039
<v Speaker 4>a lot better. Back when I lived there, it was okay,

1838
01:29:45.399 --> 01:29:47.720
<v Speaker 4>very stabby. You want to go there after nine o'clock

1839
01:29:47.720 --> 01:29:49.359
<v Speaker 4>at night. I had a couple of weird encounters in

1840
01:29:49.359 --> 01:29:49.760
<v Speaker 4>that region.

1841
01:29:49.800 --> 01:29:51.079
<v Speaker 6>I think I was in that area because I went

1842
01:29:51.119 --> 01:29:55.239
<v Speaker 6>to like a I got like coffee somewhere, I think,

1843
01:29:56.960 --> 01:29:58.239
<v Speaker 6>and I happened to take me over there.

1844
01:29:58.640 --> 01:30:01.600
<v Speaker 4>Chili bowls are pretty from this kind of local establishment,

1845
01:30:01.600 --> 01:30:04.000
<v Speaker 4>you know there it's a you know, if you're in

1846
01:30:04.039 --> 01:30:05.840
<v Speaker 4>the area to go get creeped out of a district

1847
01:30:05.920 --> 01:30:08.319
<v Speaker 4>ninety three, you know, check out some Ben's Chili bowl.

1848
01:30:08.439 --> 01:30:13.159
<v Speaker 2>This is not a paid advertisement. But so what I

1849
01:30:13.239 --> 01:30:15.000
<v Speaker 2>was thinking with this situation.

1850
01:30:16.319 --> 01:30:19.600
<v Speaker 4>Was this is a very occult looking sign, right, you

1851
01:30:19.640 --> 01:30:22.960
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean?

1852
01:30:23.039 --> 01:30:24.439
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, a moon on the stars.

1853
01:30:26.039 --> 01:30:28.760
<v Speaker 4>So this was a sign that put up was put

1854
01:30:28.840 --> 01:30:32.079
<v Speaker 4>up by Alaphantis. Right, So I played in a beer

1855
01:30:32.119 --> 01:30:35.680
<v Speaker 4>pong tournament here serraca October of two thousand and six,

1856
01:30:36.960 --> 01:30:40.359
<v Speaker 4>and it was right before he bought the place. Made

1857
01:30:40.359 --> 01:30:45.319
<v Speaker 4>a different sign. So when he did take ownership of

1858
01:30:45.359 --> 01:30:47.239
<v Speaker 4>this place I think was in two thousand and seven March.

1859
01:30:49.840 --> 01:30:52.119
<v Speaker 4>You know, he he did put up the sign, so

1860
01:30:52.399 --> 01:30:54.359
<v Speaker 4>and it does seem to have I don't know. Again,

1861
01:30:54.399 --> 01:30:55.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what the meeting of this would be,

1862
01:30:55.960 --> 01:30:58.720
<v Speaker 4>but it like for the way I view it, my

1863
01:30:58.960 --> 01:31:02.359
<v Speaker 4>you know, very rudimentary understanding of the occult is this

1864
01:31:02.399 --> 01:31:04.640
<v Speaker 4>is like a hey, guys, if you want to come

1865
01:31:04.680 --> 01:31:07.359
<v Speaker 4>to Thalma business, maybe you come over here kind of sign, right,

1866
01:31:07.399 --> 01:31:08.359
<v Speaker 4>I don't you know, I don't know.

1867
01:31:10.319 --> 01:31:11.199
<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm not saying.

1868
01:31:10.920 --> 01:31:12.880
<v Speaker 4>Talma because of the Podesta brothers that he's own or

1869
01:31:12.880 --> 01:31:16.279
<v Speaker 4>twined with are clearly Telemites, right, Why their own admission

1870
01:31:16.279 --> 01:31:18.079
<v Speaker 4>in writings and statements?

1871
01:31:19.000 --> 01:31:22.800
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, I would I would think they have an

1872
01:31:22.600 --> 01:31:24.119
<v Speaker 6>affinity for Thalma.

1873
01:31:25.279 --> 01:31:30.560
<v Speaker 4>Well, the and the Podesta email releases, they would, Yeah,

1874
01:31:30.680 --> 01:31:33.319
<v Speaker 4>t ALEAMC favor exactly, yes, sir. So you can only

1875
01:31:33.359 --> 01:31:35.560
<v Speaker 4>ask that question if you understand the context of that.

1876
01:31:35.600 --> 01:31:38.439
<v Speaker 4>You know that the LIEMC favor was a meeting with

1877
01:31:38.479 --> 01:31:41.479
<v Speaker 4>Barack Obama one on one because Podesta was the senior

1878
01:31:41.520 --> 01:31:43.960
<v Speaker 4>advisor to Obama, like he was a senior advisor to Clinton.

1879
01:31:44.640 --> 01:31:47.319
<v Speaker 4>You senior advisor to Hillary Clinton, one of the top

1880
01:31:47.399 --> 01:31:50.359
<v Speaker 4>advisors behind the scenes to Biden, you want to talk

1881
01:31:50.399 --> 01:31:53.359
<v Speaker 4>about dark dark zith lords, you're talking John Podesta friend.

1882
01:32:01.640 --> 01:32:03.640
<v Speaker 4>So this was like maybe something I thought, maybe this

1883
01:32:03.760 --> 01:32:05.479
<v Speaker 4>was some sort of like, hey, we'll put up this

1884
01:32:05.760 --> 01:32:08.520
<v Speaker 4>very again. These symbols might mean something within their faction,

1885
01:32:08.600 --> 01:32:11.680
<v Speaker 4>of the whatever cult they're part of. But the Podestas

1886
01:32:11.720 --> 01:32:15.399
<v Speaker 4>did a lot of activities here. Birthday parties, meetings, democratic

1887
01:32:15.439 --> 01:32:19.079
<v Speaker 4>fundraisers all went down inside this pizza shop. Courtesy of

1888
01:32:19.159 --> 01:32:20.239
<v Speaker 4>John and Tony Podesta.

1889
01:32:20.479 --> 01:32:22.479
<v Speaker 6>Oh you always see those pictures at Tucker in there

1890
01:32:22.520 --> 01:32:23.319
<v Speaker 6>with with people.

1891
01:32:25.800 --> 01:32:28.159
<v Speaker 4>Did you ever see Jake Taverer from CNN call this

1892
01:32:28.199 --> 01:32:32.279
<v Speaker 4>his favorite fucking place, his favorite favorite family restaurant.

1893
01:32:32.439 --> 01:32:38.319
<v Speaker 6>I know somebody has said that pizza his favorite date

1894
01:32:38.399 --> 01:32:40.600
<v Speaker 6>night restaurant with his wife when they don't have the kids.

1895
01:32:41.279 --> 01:32:44.239
<v Speaker 4>Bucks Camping and Fishing, you're Hunting and Fishing next door,

1896
01:32:44.359 --> 01:32:47.119
<v Speaker 4>which shares the wall here with Comet and is owned

1897
01:32:47.119 --> 01:32:50.520
<v Speaker 4>by Aliphantis. And when everyone claims that Common Pizza didn't

1898
01:32:50.520 --> 01:32:54.439
<v Speaker 4>have a base basement, well that's cause, uh it does.

1899
01:32:54.560 --> 01:32:56.079
<v Speaker 2>But the access to the basement you have to go

1900
01:32:56.119 --> 01:32:57.000
<v Speaker 2>through the.

1901
01:32:57.000 --> 01:33:00.680
<v Speaker 4>Neighboring restaurant, Bucks camp Hunting and Fish it's owned by

1902
01:33:00.720 --> 01:33:04.560
<v Speaker 4>Elaphantis has access to the basement that goes underneath the

1903
01:33:04.600 --> 01:33:06.960
<v Speaker 4>common pizza side, and that's where you see that that

1904
01:33:07.000 --> 01:33:09.159
<v Speaker 4>one sex Stanes band playing the music down there in

1905
01:33:09.159 --> 01:33:11.920
<v Speaker 4>that one video that has long been you you know

1906
01:33:12.359 --> 01:33:14.079
<v Speaker 4>send you know memory hold right.

1907
01:33:17.840 --> 01:33:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I should have checked that out one next.

1908
01:33:20.359 --> 01:33:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Door Yeah dude, Yeah, he owns that spot too.

1909
01:33:24.840 --> 01:33:27.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, mister one of the top fifty most powerful men

1910
01:33:27.680 --> 01:33:31.880
<v Speaker 4>in DC, according to you know, some dumbass to survey.

1911
01:33:34.000 --> 01:33:35.520
<v Speaker 4>What are your thoughts on this being some sort of

1912
01:33:35.520 --> 01:33:36.439
<v Speaker 4>thlemic meeting house?

1913
01:33:40.279 --> 01:33:42.359
<v Speaker 6>Could be a meetinghouse for all sorts of stuff, but yeah,

1914
01:33:42.399 --> 01:33:45.079
<v Speaker 6>it could be that. I do think it's definitely a

1915
01:33:45.119 --> 01:33:47.439
<v Speaker 6>spot where people probably go and talk about things that

1916
01:33:47.479 --> 01:33:49.079
<v Speaker 6>they don't want other people listening about.

1917
01:33:50.479 --> 01:33:53.159
<v Speaker 2>Do you suspect that's what these assembles are on there for.

1918
01:33:56.520 --> 01:33:58.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that actually, Or is.

1919
01:33:58.760 --> 01:34:00.399
<v Speaker 2>It simply because they chose the name Comet?

1920
01:34:02.399 --> 01:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Uh, if anything, I don't know. I could look

1921
01:34:07.720 --> 01:34:10.800
<v Speaker 1>up see what it matches, if anything, the.

1922
01:34:13.640 --> 01:34:15.960
<v Speaker 6>Star and the cress And unfortunately I would probably think

1923
01:34:16.039 --> 01:34:18.720
<v Speaker 6>more of a shriner as shiner as.

1924
01:34:18.560 --> 01:34:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay, what do you got there? What are you

1925
01:34:20.600 --> 01:34:21.079
<v Speaker 2>thinking there?

1926
01:34:21.520 --> 01:34:24.640
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, but oh, the one weird thing was

1927
01:34:24.720 --> 01:34:26.840
<v Speaker 6>is that see that? Wow, that's weird that I did

1928
01:34:26.840 --> 01:34:29.720
<v Speaker 6>bring that up. It could mean nothing, but we did

1929
01:34:29.840 --> 01:34:34.520
<v Speaker 6>show on the Occult Rejects once. Oh fuck it might

1930
01:34:34.520 --> 01:34:36.760
<v Speaker 6>it might only be on bit shoot. I don't know

1931
01:34:36.800 --> 01:34:42.359
<v Speaker 6>if we were covering this place or something or quasi

1932
01:34:42.439 --> 01:34:46.359
<v Speaker 6>cootal somehow we uh might have been No, I'm sorry,

1933
01:34:46.399 --> 01:34:48.960
<v Speaker 6>the Shriners. Might have been the Shriners, or it could

1934
01:34:48.960 --> 01:34:52.239
<v Speaker 6>have been. When we were talking about Alphantis, we did

1935
01:34:52.279 --> 01:34:54.399
<v Speaker 6>show like part of like a music video that was

1936
01:34:54.479 --> 01:34:58.840
<v Speaker 6>filmed in there, and there was somebody constantly like with

1937
01:34:58.880 --> 01:35:02.640
<v Speaker 6>the Shiner hat on or was on a table, and

1938
01:35:02.680 --> 01:35:04.399
<v Speaker 6>we were pointing that out that we thought it was

1939
01:35:04.439 --> 01:35:07.880
<v Speaker 6>interesting how Schriner had kept popping up in like a

1940
01:35:07.960 --> 01:35:10.640
<v Speaker 6>music video that was done outside that place. Now, again

1941
01:35:10.680 --> 01:35:14.520
<v Speaker 6>that's another band. Maybe it's not so much associated with that,

1942
01:35:14.560 --> 01:35:18.800
<v Speaker 6>but I just found it weird, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1943
01:35:18.960 --> 01:35:21.119
<v Speaker 6>was that a Shriner band that was playing inside that

1944
01:35:21.159 --> 01:35:22.239
<v Speaker 6>place when they filmed the video?

1945
01:35:23.600 --> 01:35:24.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's probably a thing though.

1946
01:35:24.800 --> 01:35:26.880
<v Speaker 6>Right then then what I'm getting at is like, well,

1947
01:35:26.880 --> 01:35:29.960
<v Speaker 6>why is that like is that because you're part of

1948
01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:30.920
<v Speaker 6>the club.

1949
01:35:31.119 --> 01:35:32.199
<v Speaker 5>You know them, That's what I'm saying.

1950
01:35:32.199 --> 01:35:33.760
<v Speaker 4>That's why they're getting hired, right, because they're part of

1951
01:35:33.760 --> 01:35:36.239
<v Speaker 4>the club. Right, That's why Tom DeLong puts the Masonic

1952
01:35:36.279 --> 01:35:40.239
<v Speaker 4>logo on his guitar, right, See, you know the way,

1953
01:35:40.439 --> 01:35:42.119
<v Speaker 4>you know what.

1954
01:35:42.119 --> 01:35:43.279
<v Speaker 1>I would know another way.

1955
01:35:43.359 --> 01:35:45.840
<v Speaker 6>I would even say, I think podesta Is has the

1956
01:35:45.920 --> 01:35:52.640
<v Speaker 6>Lima connections is going through Lavenda Is because Lavenda I

1957
01:35:52.720 --> 01:35:54.840
<v Speaker 6>gotta get this thing. I gotta get it and like

1958
01:35:54.920 --> 01:35:57.039
<v Speaker 6>save this link somewhere so every time I bring it up,

1959
01:35:57.039 --> 01:35:57.520
<v Speaker 6>I can like.

1960
01:35:57.520 --> 01:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Drop it in the chat or whatever.

1961
01:36:00.039 --> 01:36:02.560
<v Speaker 6>But there is a video where it was like something

1962
01:36:02.560 --> 01:36:06.640
<v Speaker 6>almost like the History Channel doing some like covering secret societies,

1963
01:36:07.039 --> 01:36:09.920
<v Speaker 6>and they get to like the oto and they had

1964
01:36:10.960 --> 01:36:13.319
<v Speaker 6>James Wasserman was like letting them come in and like

1965
01:36:13.439 --> 01:36:19.239
<v Speaker 6>watching the invocation of Horace or or was Israefel but

1966
01:36:19.279 --> 01:36:22.800
<v Speaker 6>they said it was horse something. They were doing something

1967
01:36:22.840 --> 01:36:28.279
<v Speaker 6>there and they show everybody. I think it might have

1968
01:36:28.359 --> 01:36:30.920
<v Speaker 6>been I can't remember the fuck. I can't remember the

1969
01:36:30.920 --> 01:36:33.680
<v Speaker 6>exact lodge, but it was like specific people from a

1970
01:36:33.760 --> 01:36:36.800
<v Speaker 6>lodge and you could see them walking in because I've

1971
01:36:36.800 --> 01:36:39.000
<v Speaker 6>even seen them on their own lodge YouTube channel.

1972
01:36:39.039 --> 01:36:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Same fucking people.

1973
01:36:40.640 --> 01:36:43.840
<v Speaker 6>Walking in and like within that line of people, fucking

1974
01:36:43.840 --> 01:36:45.079
<v Speaker 6>Peter Leavenda walks right by.

1975
01:36:47.279 --> 01:36:49.119
<v Speaker 1>They're like, oh, well, look at that Peter Lavender.

1976
01:36:50.159 --> 01:36:53.600
<v Speaker 6>I'm just fucking out of Noway two second cameo appearance

1977
01:36:53.600 --> 01:36:58.399
<v Speaker 6>in this OTO event, Like, what are you doing there?

1978
01:36:58.439 --> 01:36:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Guy?

1979
01:37:00.039 --> 01:37:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Austin was a major figure in the oto.

1980
01:37:01.840 --> 01:37:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Huh yeah, he started the lodge that I went to.

1981
01:37:05.399 --> 01:37:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Interesting.

1982
01:37:06.680 --> 01:37:09.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Podesta and Lavenda go back to the late seventies together.

1983
01:37:14.079 --> 01:37:15.319
<v Speaker 2>He used to He used to used to.

1984
01:37:15.880 --> 01:37:18.159
<v Speaker 6>He used to troll motherfuckers, used to take pictures of

1985
01:37:18.239 --> 01:37:21.359
<v Speaker 6>his handgun on his nightstand and just posted on social media.

1986
01:37:21.359 --> 01:37:26.560
<v Speaker 1>It would trigger. He would trigger the fuck out of thulomites. Interesting, Oh,

1987
01:37:26.600 --> 01:37:28.399
<v Speaker 1>he would, he would. He was near near the end.

1988
01:37:28.479 --> 01:37:29.960
<v Speaker 1>He was trolling motherfuckers.

1989
01:37:32.640 --> 01:37:34.880
<v Speaker 2>He died in November twenty twenty. Did the calf cough

1990
01:37:34.920 --> 01:37:37.319
<v Speaker 2>get Um, I.

1991
01:37:37.239 --> 01:37:41.159
<v Speaker 1>Don't remember, might have been cancered. I can't remember the cough. No,

1992
01:37:41.199 --> 01:37:47.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was that. No, Nope, so uh yeah.

1993
01:37:47.199 --> 01:37:50.479
<v Speaker 4>I think minunderstanding is Lavenda and Podesta both worked at

1994
01:37:50.479 --> 01:37:55.920
<v Speaker 4>the same computer software company. That computer software company that

1995
01:37:56.000 --> 01:37:58.880
<v Speaker 4>Lavenda was working for when he infiltrated that Nazi encampment.

1996
01:37:59.000 --> 01:38:05.680
<v Speaker 4>In Chili, Colonia dignidod right with the name of the place,

1997
01:38:05.960 --> 01:38:09.399
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, Colony of Dignity. He was a Nazi

1998
01:38:09.439 --> 01:38:12.239
<v Speaker 4>operation there where they're running kill squads out of there.

1999
01:38:12.920 --> 01:38:15.199
<v Speaker 4>And Lavende is like twenty year old. He's like, oh,

2000
01:38:15.199 --> 01:38:17.039
<v Speaker 4>I just wandered into place. What are you talking about?

2001
01:38:17.279 --> 01:38:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Yo? Oh you know?

2002
01:38:18.079 --> 01:38:18.239
<v Speaker 6>Oh?

2003
01:38:18.319 --> 01:38:20.079
<v Speaker 1>Fuck you? We just went back. Yeah. I was gonna

2004
01:38:20.079 --> 01:38:21.439
<v Speaker 1>ask you to go back. You don't have to. I

2005
01:38:21.479 --> 01:38:24.359
<v Speaker 1>just saw it on the screen real quick.

2006
01:38:25.239 --> 01:38:29.600
<v Speaker 6>Even with Wasserman, he worked for Wiser Books. Who do

2007
01:38:29.640 --> 01:38:32.760
<v Speaker 6>you think was pumping out fucking Lavenza's crap as Simon

2008
01:38:32.800 --> 01:38:39.880
<v Speaker 6>and Acronomicon, Right, it was Wassaman for him.

2009
01:38:40.079 --> 01:38:42.319
<v Speaker 1>It's all a bunch of bullshit. It's all fell muck.

2010
01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:42.720
<v Speaker 1>You know.

2011
01:38:42.800 --> 01:38:45.520
<v Speaker 2>I didn't. I didn't realize. That's okay, that's who did.

2012
01:38:45.600 --> 01:38:48.760
<v Speaker 2>That's who did the necronomic on huh. Yeah.

2013
01:38:48.800 --> 01:38:51.560
<v Speaker 1>And Wasserman works for the man he had leven Yeah.

2014
01:38:51.600 --> 01:38:53.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he put putt pump Lavenda ship out through that

2015
01:38:53.720 --> 01:38:54.640
<v Speaker 6>fucking book company.

2016
01:38:54.640 --> 01:38:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Man.

2017
01:38:55.800 --> 01:39:02.079
<v Speaker 2>The plot thickensh Man, the Slavenda guy. I tell you

2018
01:39:02.159 --> 01:39:02.960
<v Speaker 2>the plot thickens.

2019
01:39:03.119 --> 01:39:04.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, he has done good work.

2020
01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:10.279
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Nick I'm sorry what we're saying.

2021
01:39:10.319 --> 01:39:11.960
<v Speaker 6>I said, he has put out I think in the

2022
01:39:12.000 --> 01:39:13.840
<v Speaker 6>in the past some good work. But unfortunately, I'm just

2023
01:39:13.880 --> 01:39:15.920
<v Speaker 6>saying like he's he's connected with these people.

2024
01:39:18.079 --> 01:39:20.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh sure, I like some of his work. Don't get

2025
01:39:20.239 --> 01:39:22.560
<v Speaker 2>me wrong, take Away the Green of Salt. You know

2026
01:39:22.600 --> 01:39:22.840
<v Speaker 2>what I mean?

2027
01:39:22.880 --> 01:39:25.680
<v Speaker 4>When he blames the entire Sinister Forces series on the Republicans,

2028
01:39:25.680 --> 01:39:27.640
<v Speaker 4>you gotta you gotta be like, what the fuck did

2029
01:39:27.680 --> 01:39:29.039
<v Speaker 4>you just do to me, your buddy? You took a

2030
01:39:29.079 --> 01:39:36.520
<v Speaker 4>fucking Shamalan twist the ball Shamel with a twist to

2031
01:39:37.439 --> 01:39:39.760
<v Speaker 4>have you all read that one. Volume one and volume

2032
01:39:39.760 --> 01:39:41.800
<v Speaker 4>two were fantastic, and then you get to volume three

2033
01:39:41.840 --> 01:39:42.880
<v Speaker 4>and suddenly the Republicans.

2034
01:39:42.920 --> 01:39:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Then I'm like, wait a second here, Bud, what did

2035
01:39:45.760 --> 01:39:46.319
<v Speaker 2>you just do? What?

2036
01:39:46.319 --> 01:39:51.520
<v Speaker 4>What kind of mind fuck is this? Don't get me wrong,

2037
01:39:51.520 --> 01:39:54.359
<v Speaker 4>I'm not a Republican or Democrat. In fact, I've never voted. Well,

2038
01:39:54.840 --> 01:39:58.760
<v Speaker 4>I voted one time under under just under duress speaking

2039
01:39:58.760 --> 01:40:00.680
<v Speaker 4>that shouldn't that shouldn't you shoudn't have to do that.

2040
01:40:00.800 --> 01:40:03.199
<v Speaker 4>But when I say under dress, it was I had

2041
01:40:03.239 --> 01:40:06.119
<v Speaker 4>I was used an excuse to go voting to get

2042
01:40:06.119 --> 01:40:09.800
<v Speaker 4>out of uh my entire unit got popped for a

2043
01:40:09.800 --> 01:40:12.279
<v Speaker 4>piss tess when I was an active duty and they

2044
01:40:12.279 --> 01:40:14.319
<v Speaker 4>were making us doing some ass nine ship. They woke

2045
01:40:14.359 --> 01:40:15.680
<v Speaker 4>me up the middle of night, maybe come in sit

2046
01:40:15.720 --> 01:40:17.600
<v Speaker 4>in the conference room with like, you know, t one

2047
01:40:17.640 --> 01:40:19.239
<v Speaker 4>hundred and fifty hundred people, And I'm like, what is

2048
01:40:19.319 --> 01:40:20.119
<v Speaker 4>going on around here?

2049
01:40:20.399 --> 01:40:22.199
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, I'm not doing this? So and I

2050
01:40:22.239 --> 01:40:23.800
<v Speaker 2>told I told my lieutenant. I'm like, I got to go.

2051
01:40:23.920 --> 01:40:25.199
<v Speaker 2>I gotta get the fuck out of here, buddy.

2052
01:40:25.199 --> 01:40:27.439
<v Speaker 4>He's like, You're not leaving anywhere till everyone pisses in

2053
01:40:27.439 --> 01:40:28.880
<v Speaker 4>this room like I do. I don't know what's going

2054
01:40:28.920 --> 01:40:31.079
<v Speaker 4>on in life, but I'm not living by these rules.

2055
01:40:31.279 --> 01:40:33.159
<v Speaker 4>It's voting day, friend, I got on an American I

2056
01:40:33.199 --> 01:40:35.399
<v Speaker 4>gotta go vote. So I voted in the two thousand

2057
01:40:35.439 --> 01:40:37.520
<v Speaker 4>and four action for George Bush. But that was again

2058
01:40:37.600 --> 01:40:41.680
<v Speaker 4>under dress. Because you voted. He's like, You're gonna be

2059
01:40:41.720 --> 01:40:43.359
<v Speaker 4>in a lot of fucking trouble. I'm like, all right, buddy,

2060
01:40:43.399 --> 01:40:48.680
<v Speaker 4>let's let's take it down some notches underrest. He was serious, dude.

2061
01:40:48.800 --> 01:40:50.439
<v Speaker 4>This dude had so much beef with me. Dude, he

2062
01:40:50.520 --> 01:40:52.760
<v Speaker 4>essentially threw in his career. About six months after this

2063
01:40:52.840 --> 01:40:56.039
<v Speaker 4>incident and a beef with me where he, uh he

2064
01:40:56.119 --> 01:40:59.319
<v Speaker 4>overstepped some boundaries and got real physically violent with me

2065
01:40:59.359 --> 01:41:04.239
<v Speaker 4>on duty one night, so which I I obviously responded

2066
01:41:04.279 --> 01:41:07.439
<v Speaker 4>in kind, and uh somehow he got he got the

2067
01:41:07.439 --> 01:41:10.319
<v Speaker 4>bulk of the he got thrown out the military. I

2068
01:41:10.359 --> 01:41:12.399
<v Speaker 4>mean he was at he was, you know, he was.

2069
01:41:12.479 --> 01:41:14.560
<v Speaker 4>He just made captain. They're like, oh, you're out of here, buddy.

2070
01:41:14.760 --> 01:41:17.920
<v Speaker 4>So but uh so he was real serious, what I'm

2071
01:41:17.920 --> 01:41:19.359
<v Speaker 4>getting I was a real serious man. I took him

2072
01:41:19.359 --> 01:41:21.199
<v Speaker 4>for his word. He was serious when he said that

2073
01:41:21.279 --> 01:41:23.159
<v Speaker 4>I better bring him a fucking receipt him. All right,

2074
01:41:23.359 --> 01:41:25.520
<v Speaker 4>let's take it down some notches. I'll I'll bring you receipt.

2075
01:41:25.520 --> 01:41:27.159
<v Speaker 4>I'm just not sitting in the same room anymore. But

2076
01:41:27.960 --> 01:41:29.399
<v Speaker 4>you know so it's not a political thing for me

2077
01:41:29.439 --> 01:41:32.800
<v Speaker 4>with Lavenda, but he does he hucklebucks? You dude, have

2078
01:41:32.920 --> 01:41:34.199
<v Speaker 4>you read Sinister Forces?

2079
01:41:34.560 --> 01:41:37.960
<v Speaker 2>BT? Did you feel hucklebucked?

2080
01:41:39.239 --> 01:41:40.880
<v Speaker 5>I didn't get to the third one yet, but now

2081
01:41:40.960 --> 01:41:49.760
<v Speaker 5>I have to well, m night, Shyamalan.

2082
01:41:51.279 --> 01:41:53.239
<v Speaker 2>I really enjoyed his Mormon book was good too. I

2083
01:41:53.479 --> 01:41:54.359
<v Speaker 2>really enjoyed his work.

2084
01:41:54.439 --> 01:42:01.600
<v Speaker 4>But come on, man, Republicans, did.

2085
01:41:59.520 --> 01:42:01.119
<v Speaker 1>You know what I even for me.

2086
01:42:02.159 --> 01:42:04.479
<v Speaker 6>I think for me, I am very intrigued as an

2087
01:42:04.479 --> 01:42:08.479
<v Speaker 6>occult this by cults and certain things like that. And

2088
01:42:08.520 --> 01:42:10.399
<v Speaker 6>I think when I do want to cover something and

2089
01:42:10.399 --> 01:42:12.640
<v Speaker 6>get involved in something, I do do a decent job

2090
01:42:12.720 --> 01:42:14.840
<v Speaker 6>nine and a half as job. So again, like him,

2091
01:42:14.920 --> 01:42:17.479
<v Speaker 6>like I hear certain things. I see some people that

2092
01:42:17.600 --> 01:42:21.159
<v Speaker 6>I do a question, they are very much into the

2093
01:42:21.199 --> 01:42:24.279
<v Speaker 6>same stuff that I and other occult this would be

2094
01:42:24.319 --> 01:42:25.760
<v Speaker 6>into researching.

2095
01:42:26.039 --> 01:42:28.600
<v Speaker 5>Right, So right.

2096
01:42:31.720 --> 01:42:34.439
<v Speaker 1>Would be what would be easy stuff to present to

2097
01:42:34.479 --> 01:42:38.000
<v Speaker 1>talk about? You know say that easy?

2098
01:42:38.039 --> 01:42:42.359
<v Speaker 4>But well, well, gentlemen, I I appreciate your time. I

2099
01:42:42.399 --> 01:42:44.000
<v Speaker 4>feel like we should probablyring us to a close. Can

2100
01:42:44.039 --> 01:42:46.920
<v Speaker 4>I turn it over to to bet first year Nick

2101
01:42:46.960 --> 01:42:50.119
<v Speaker 4>for some closing comments, statements or any plugs.

2102
01:42:49.800 --> 01:42:51.840
<v Speaker 2>You got there? Sir? Bt? What what do you would?

2103
01:42:51.880 --> 01:42:54.119
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you joining us tonight for Fridays.

2104
01:42:56.039 --> 01:42:57.680
<v Speaker 5>Thank you for coming. Let me come back on the

2105
01:42:57.960 --> 01:43:00.560
<v Speaker 5>on the Fridays and at it up.

2106
01:43:00.520 --> 01:43:00.880
<v Speaker 2>With you guys.

2107
01:43:00.920 --> 01:43:02.479
<v Speaker 5>It's a good way to spend it Friday evening.

2108
01:43:03.640 --> 01:43:06.560
<v Speaker 2>I agree, sir, appreciate your time in conversation.

2109
01:43:06.680 --> 01:43:07.079
<v Speaker 1>Thanks you.

2110
01:43:08.600 --> 01:43:10.680
<v Speaker 2>What's what's on the horizon for you? Again?

2111
01:43:10.880 --> 01:43:13.159
<v Speaker 4>Any additional commentary or plugs for you on the Truth

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<v Speaker 4>and Chatout podcast. I got your links and the description

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<v Speaker 4>already for you.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Yeah, I mean I dropped. I dropped episode fifty

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<v Speaker 5>three into the comments here. That's the one where we

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<v Speaker 5>talk about Baphomette with doctor other Lynn Nice. So it

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01:43:25.640 --> 01:43:27.760
<v Speaker 5>was a good episode. So people can listen to that

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<v Speaker 5>and listen to what's going on there and stuff coming

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<v Speaker 5>up in the future. Yeah, I'm working on a couple

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<v Speaker 5>of episodes that'll be dropping I do. I am a Catholic,

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01:43:39.479 --> 01:43:42.600
<v Speaker 5>so I do drop everyone's while I interview catholic, So

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<v Speaker 5>I do drop stuff that we're talking about over there,

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01:43:45.239 --> 01:43:48.279
<v Speaker 5>and occasionally I drop stuff that our conspiracy related. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>kind of all over the board a little bit at

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<v Speaker 5>the moment, So I've got some great stuff coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you do cryptids over there? I don't recall. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you doing a lot of cryptos stuff over there?

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<v Speaker 5>I done an episode about Bigfoot with a guy someone, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't talked of many other people about him. I

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<v Speaker 5>am trying to find some there's a there's a local

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<v Speaker 5>author here in Oregon that I do want to talk to.

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<v Speaker 4>Nick and I were gonna have a future Bigfoot conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're a pro big footer. You may want to

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<v Speaker 4>join us in that because I'm an anti big footer myself.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's all psychological operation by the CIA, and

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<v Speaker 4>I have a strong circumstantial argument to make to make

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<v Speaker 4>behind it.

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<v Speaker 5>What we call it big foot not big feet, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean big feet. Is he just got one big foot?

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<v Speaker 5>Or is he like, are we talking about something else

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<v Speaker 5>that's big? I don't, I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope he's got more than one eyes a cyclops bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 4>He be in a lot of trouble. One eyed, one

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01:44:43.159 --> 01:44:46.119
<v Speaker 4>horned people eater can get him on some disability dude,

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01:44:46.199 --> 01:44:47.640
<v Speaker 4>Joe Biden approved disabilities.

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<v Speaker 5>It's been on so security.

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<v Speaker 1>You should have been on the show last night.

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<v Speaker 6>Man, you could have been some opposition for that bigfoot

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<v Speaker 6>to it me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, O, yeah, I'm not a big big footer.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I do I do find that. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know. Here in Oregon, it seems bigfoots the

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<v Speaker 5>state cryptid. But but you know, people have.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, moth Man, And I was going to ask

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01:45:16.239 --> 01:45:19.479
<v Speaker 1>Grismothman for that. That's like a encryptid for that area.

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<v Speaker 5>Where is that over here now? That's where is that?

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<v Speaker 2>God Virginia friend?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. Where was that?

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<v Speaker 6>I know, that's like a point.

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<v Speaker 5>Pleasant Pleasant, West Virginia.

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<v Speaker 6>There was a whole excuse for that hellier bullshit sigh

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<v Speaker 6>up thing too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good call.

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<v Speaker 6>As you know how you know because the guy from

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<v Speaker 6>the O T O isn't it Alan Greenfield?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh dude, Alan Greensburg and whatever his name is Greenfield?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Then and then after and then after that is when

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<v Speaker 6>all the balloons starts showing up.

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<v Speaker 2>And they's like going on typical, typical.

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01:45:51.199 --> 01:45:53.520
<v Speaker 1>And the pan they keep going on about pan at

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<v Speaker 1>the end.

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<v Speaker 6>Crowley was big on pan in his INEXH.

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<v Speaker 4>And they matched together. They Andrew Cole and UFOs too

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<v Speaker 4>write in little green goblins, Little fucking green goblins.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I, like so many people I over the

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<v Speaker 6>OTO watched that ship during COVID.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh dude, that's Cincinnati, dude. Now are your people They

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01:46:18.520 --> 01:46:20.880
<v Speaker 4>run some sort of paranormal traveling road show, But I

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<v Speaker 4>believe they they operate all their operations out of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 4>Wonder if they bought a place on a mound. That's

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01:46:26.039 --> 01:46:29.399
<v Speaker 4>interesting now I think about it. I know they're on

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<v Speaker 4>the west side that is has more mount heavy over there.

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<v Speaker 4>You're Harrison, Ohio, like William Henry Harrison. He's buried on

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01:46:37.840 --> 01:46:41.960
<v Speaker 4>a mound there Society in Cincinnati. Guy, Well bt uh.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe we'll talk some big Foots in the future. I

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<v Speaker 4>appreciate your time, sir and the discussions as always. I

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<v Speaker 4>know I enjoyed my last conversation with you, Untruth and Shadow. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>talking about the process.

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<v Speaker 2>Good times.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, big episode, lots of downloads.

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<v Speaker 4>Nice big foot episode if you will, big big Feet

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<v Speaker 4>nixt sir. I appreciate your time as always. Here on

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<v Speaker 4>a Friday is always look forward to it, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that was a good one.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you got working on every I know we

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<v Speaker 4>got a Tuesday World conversation with Juliat Cosmic Peach coming

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<v Speaker 4>up on Monday, right.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, that's just Monday awesome. For some reason, I was

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<v Speaker 6>thinking ship Okay, I have a written down so that wasn't.

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01:47:21.279 --> 01:47:23.520
<v Speaker 1>A project, but I just kept Actually.

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01:47:24.119 --> 01:47:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Technically Juli and I are the ones that booked it,

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01:47:25.840 --> 01:47:26.319
<v Speaker 2>were you know.

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<v Speaker 1>They just decided to include me. It was nice what.

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<v Speaker 4>It spawned from a conversation you had us Holiday cult rejects.

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01:47:35.399 --> 01:47:37.399
<v Speaker 4>Last week on the Cold Elvis, which I highly recommend

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<v Speaker 4>folks check that out. That was a fucking awesome conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an operation g c D slash. Coult rejects a mashout. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, we got that.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what, you know, we got dropping this weekend

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01:47:49.119 --> 01:47:50.920
<v Speaker 6>for the people that are listening now that haven't jumped

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01:47:50.960 --> 01:47:54.319
<v Speaker 6>off us on Me and JJ were on Strange saw

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01:47:54.439 --> 01:47:58.319
<v Speaker 6>a slash part of my American kind of podcast. We

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<v Speaker 6>got that actually time dropped in that audio on only

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<v Speaker 6>audio though it's not gonna be on video.

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<v Speaker 1>Be the audio for.

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<v Speaker 6>That tomorrow and then we do have you're in there

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<v Speaker 6>for the epic of with Prometheus lens.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, yeah, that was biblical Bigfoot. I guess we

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01:48:17.039 --> 01:48:18.760
<v Speaker 4>saw him and we saw him justin the chats and

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<v Speaker 4>that earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, yeah, so that was what bigfoot there again?

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, yeah, I like his. I like his.

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<v Speaker 4>He brings some new big foot stuff to the table,

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<v Speaker 4>at least whether whether or not Bigfoot is real or not.

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<v Speaker 4>He brings up more mythical I'm sorry, more mystical understanding,

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01:48:32.760 --> 01:48:35.119
<v Speaker 4>which I'm more inclined to believe.

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<v Speaker 2>That than I am. Flesh and blood bigfoot stuff.

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01:48:37.600 --> 01:48:41.359
<v Speaker 6>He definitely was onto something he had made, the ship

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01:48:41.399 --> 01:48:43.319
<v Speaker 6>he was talking about and the things he was bringing.

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<v Speaker 2>Up ideas on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, definitely something right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not mutually exclusive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, yes, right yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But killers in the Philippines.

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<v Speaker 4>And also, oh boy, your boy lands there, Edward Lansdale.

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<v Speaker 2>You did all you did some deep dives into Lansdale.

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<v Speaker 4>So there could be actual vampires murking folks over there,

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01:49:08.399 --> 01:49:10.840
<v Speaker 4>and there was also a Lansdale making the villagers think

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<v Speaker 4>it was vampires.

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01:49:13.359 --> 01:49:14.039
<v Speaker 2>It could be both.

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<v Speaker 6>Ye, where on the where on the street? Is that

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<v Speaker 6>a vampire? Is what got Lansdale?

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01:49:18.640 --> 01:49:19.039
<v Speaker 1>Actually?

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01:49:20.159 --> 01:49:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Is that what got them?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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01:49:21.640 --> 01:49:23.880
<v Speaker 2>That's where was Wesley Snipes when it happened.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he was down at he was down at the

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<v Speaker 6>Elliot Coco col Hang it.

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<v Speaker 4>Out, dude, but they remember they were they were murking

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01:49:31.920 --> 01:49:33.119
<v Speaker 4>folks down there on that mound.

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01:49:33.239 --> 01:49:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Remember we did a show on that.

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<v Speaker 6>Shot d all right, thank you very much for a

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01:49:41.479 --> 01:49:43.279
<v Speaker 6>good show today. Man, guys had a great though.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate it, and I appreciate the folks of the

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01:49:47.239 --> 01:49:50.880
<v Speaker 4>innerwebs is always uh Operation gc D Live on Wednesdays

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<v Speaker 4>and then back again next Fridays here with Nick. But

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01:49:53.439 --> 01:49:57.000
<v Speaker 4>Wednesdays I got Jonathan Mitchell coming back on talking more

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<v Speaker 4>processed church, son of Sam, Westchester County Business, New York City,

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01:50:00.079 --> 01:50:05.159
<v Speaker 4>the Colt activity related to the Berkowitz situations, and also

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<v Speaker 4>the following week operation GCD Live.

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday, we're gonna be talking in a cult and or

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01:50:12.520 --> 01:50:14.319
<v Speaker 2>esoteric review of.

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<v Speaker 4>The nineteen eighty six classic The Golden Child starring Eddie

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01:50:23.800 --> 01:50:26.359
<v Speaker 4>Murphy and that creepy ginger fella.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if that guy's acting anything else since then.

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01:50:29.279 --> 01:50:30.760
<v Speaker 4>Now I think about it, I can picture him in one

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01:50:30.840 --> 01:50:33.760
<v Speaker 4>other film that is one of the creepiest looking dudes

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01:50:33.800 --> 01:50:37.479
<v Speaker 4>they've ever cast, Like super creepy looking dude. And he's ginger,

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01:50:37.560 --> 01:50:38.680
<v Speaker 4>so you know he's got no soul.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy talking about the big guy, right, Yeah, you

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01:50:47.880 --> 01:50:48.319
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Talking about this the devil dude, the demon fella.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, yeah, he got he's creepy dude. He's creepy dude.

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01:50:58.399 --> 01:51:00.680
<v Speaker 2>And they got Victor Wong in there, dude, Victor wonging

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01:51:00.720 --> 01:51:02.239
<v Speaker 2>it up. Dude, he was he killed it in the

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01:51:02.319 --> 01:51:03.279
<v Speaker 2>Golden Child, and he.

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<v Speaker 4>Killed it the same year. Dude, he won that year

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01:51:05.720 --> 01:51:08.399
<v Speaker 4>Dude Hollywood for at least for Asian actors over the

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01:51:08.439 --> 01:51:12.199
<v Speaker 4>age of sixty. He started also in Big Trouble, Little China,

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<v Speaker 4>which we did in the Cold Esoteric review. With that

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<v Speaker 4>with Jen the Ninja, who will also be joining us

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01:51:17.119 --> 01:51:20.479
<v Speaker 4>for the Golden Child reviews, so recommend folks check that

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01:51:20.560 --> 01:51:25.319
<v Speaker 4>out for sure, and if if jents don't have any

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<v Speaker 4>other comments, we'll end it there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, Thank you.