Speaker 1: You see something's going to happen.
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: How do you? Folks?
Speaker 4: Your host double j back here, host of Operation g
Speaker 4: c D and Not the Vice President, Welcome back for
Speaker 4: another Fridays along with my co host Nick, host of
Speaker 4: The Occult Rejects.
Speaker 2: Nick. How you doing, sir?
Speaker 1: It's going on.
Speaker 2: I'm doing quite well. Actually appreciate it. How you doing?
Speaker 1: That's your bed? That's bad?
Speaker 4: It's Friday, it's the Fridays and we got guest b. T. Wallace,
Speaker 4: host of Truth and Shadow podcast. Ready, sir, how.
Speaker 5: You doing doing well?
Speaker 4: Fine scotsman wearing a fine hat? How are you doing
Speaker 4: this evening? Besides doing well? What's going on in organ Land?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 6: Over here?
Speaker 5: In orgon Land? There's probably a whole lot of weird,
Speaker 5: crazy conspiracy things going on. I mean, it's Democrat land.
Speaker 5: Everything's blue, but you know some of us are still
Speaker 5: holding on.
Speaker 2: You ain't kidding.
Speaker 4: I got lost in a in an organ related rabbit
Speaker 4: hole earlier this week.
Speaker 5: Sweet, tell me about that?
Speaker 2: What? Well? Well? I will absolutely what? What? What? What's
Speaker 2: besides that? Stuttery here? What's the new with the Truth
Speaker 2: of the Shadow podcast?
Speaker 5: Man Rude Shadow you know, we've been doing deep dives
Speaker 5: from you know, conspiracy to psychological things all the way
Speaker 5: into theology. So we're doing some pretty deep things going
Speaker 5: in and looking at different meanings and stuff. I got
Speaker 5: some great shows coming up in the pipeline, stuff from
Speaker 5: JFK to talking about depth psychology and Union shadow work.
Speaker 4: Nice, what specifically JFK really that were talking about. You
Speaker 4: were briefly mentioning this here before the show, But yeah.
Speaker 5: I interviewed a couple of guys, interviewed a couple of
Speaker 5: guys who wrote an article about a Van Alenen Linen
Speaker 5: cleaning van that was parked on the corner of Elmon Houston,
Speaker 5: and I had some interesting ties between the owner of
Speaker 5: said company and Oswald.
Speaker 2: Nice. And that's coming out soon.
Speaker 5: It'll be about a month. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Nice. When you mentioned van, I was like, I know
Speaker 2: some Vance.
Speaker 5: I know a Vance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I know some I know some Vance as well.
Speaker 4: I know this van right here, which I was describing
Speaker 4: to you relative to a guy who's been driving around
Speaker 4: America for forty years, declaring probably forty plus now declaring
Speaker 4: that Stephen King is the actual assassin of John Lennon,
Speaker 4: not not Mark David Chapman Man.
Speaker 2: Ye's what's that nick?
Speaker 1: They figured out?
Speaker 2: He said, he solved it.
Speaker 4: As you can see his name, Stephen Lightfoot. He'll give
Speaker 4: you a pamplet if you meet him. I believe he's
Speaker 4: still alive. He's got a website, he's got some books
Speaker 4: on the topic. He's been driving this. He litters his
Speaker 4: van with this messages. You know, he's got newer models.
Speaker 4: This is obviously the OG, but he really wants to
Speaker 4: let you know that it was definitely Stephen King. What
Speaker 4: Stephen King says about this? I don't know that he's
Speaker 4: ever made a comment, But when you mentioned Lenin Van,
Speaker 4: I was like, I know a Lenin Van, John Lennon Van.
Speaker 5: Right, so this guy basically I'm sorry, I was just question.
Speaker 4: What's your what's your all thoughts on the Lenin assassination?
Speaker 4: I mean, it does seem like it could. And you know,
Speaker 4: when you have the JFK situation, you have multiple Oswald's, right,
Speaker 4: you have the double Oswald's.
Speaker 2: It's a operation, right right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: See I'm wondering is basically are they saying that, oh
Speaker 5: what was his name? Mark Chapman was basically a patsy
Speaker 5: for for King?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think that's I mean, to be honest
Speaker 4: with you, I've tried to read the guy's pamphlet and website,
Speaker 4: and he's not exactly doesn't provide a coach in argument necessarily,
Speaker 4: but I believe what he's getting.
Speaker 2: At is, yes, what you just described. Okay, the we
Speaker 2: can look at it.
Speaker 4: I mean, we can answer that question right now and
Speaker 4: see what Stephen Lightfoot's conclusion. And we got new developments
Speaker 4: here in section eight. Oh, Stephen King's letters to me. Okay,
Speaker 4: apparently I'm not up to speed. Stephen King is well
Speaker 4: aware of these and has been for some time. That
Speaker 4: one's dated ninety seven. Well, I imagine he's not happy
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: In late July of nineteen eighty four, I received this
Speaker 4: letter signed Dennis CEA.
Speaker 2: Lee.
Speaker 4: Amazingly, it seems to be the same handwriting as Stephen
Speaker 4: King's letter to me in September of ninety two.
Speaker 2: The first letter is it's red letter and an admission
Speaker 2: of his guilt.
Speaker 4: I for some reason, I suspect that's not accurate, right,
Speaker 4: the killer's face and true identity.
Speaker 2: Let's see what this one says. Here we go.
Speaker 4: We got some pictures here, I mean that's you bear
Speaker 4: a resemblance to one another at the time. Right, you
Speaker 4: got Mark David Chapman here, you got Stephen King here. Now,
Speaker 4: I believe Chapman has some scientology connections just prior to
Speaker 4: the the you know, the incident.
Speaker 2: If you will.
Speaker 5: Oh, there you go.
Speaker 4: So I've always found that odd and apparently he's got
Speaker 4: I don't you know. To be quite honest with you,
Speaker 4: I probably need to learn more about the details behind
Speaker 4: Mark David Chapman, because now that I'm reading this stuff here,
Speaker 4: it's there's some LSD test references here in this article
Speaker 4: from ut They talking about Stephen King Charlie's napalm. What
Speaker 4: are your thoughts Nick.
Speaker 1: That Stephen King did it?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that.
Speaker 6: I do find that whole thing was weird because the
Speaker 6: whole uh catcher the right is associated with that assassination.
Speaker 4: Again, Yeah, didn't you just do a show about that
Speaker 4: with the old William Ramsey.
Speaker 2: Didn't you all discuss.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, he was gonna come on.
Speaker 6: Uh, I forgot to give Yeah, we talked about it,
Speaker 6: but I've never had him on.
Speaker 2: Gotcha. Uh.
Speaker 4: They're talking about Stephen King writing books about hypnosis, you know,
Speaker 4: Telecinic powers and LSD stuff. Okay, I got it. Oh
Speaker 4: a fire starter. I never seen that one. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean I think there's a lot of weird stuff
Speaker 4: around the uh, the whole situation here. Uh, this is
Speaker 4: John Lennon here in this picture, and apparently this is
Speaker 4: the autograph he's giving to Mark David Chapman hours prior
Speaker 4: to the murder. There in front of the Dakota Building,
Speaker 4: right the Dakota Building their next to Central Park there, Manhattan.
Speaker 2: Park side, if you will.
Speaker 4: The uh interesting part about that is that's where old
Speaker 4: Bob Cocaine, Evans Rowan Plansky, their old process fellas did.
Speaker 4: The Rosemary's Baby film was filmed there and Bob was
Speaker 4: on set.
Speaker 2: Every day allegedly for that or at least.
Speaker 4: Frequently along with Charles Bluehorn, very Nazi like fellow that
Speaker 4: the employed Bob as the head of Paramount Paramount Pictures.
Speaker 4: Much of the storyline of Michael Corleone Godfather three is
Speaker 4: actually the real life details of Charles Bluehorn relative to
Speaker 4: Vatican banking scandals, real estate deals with the Vatican, et cetera,
Speaker 4: as depicted in that film.
Speaker 2: So that's always that's always been out to me.
Speaker 4: But yeah, Dakota Building, right, So that's where Lennon gets
Speaker 4: killed is in front of the Dakota Building. And again
Speaker 4: that's where I've always thought that's strange. That's just you know,
Speaker 4: I don't know speaking to these places that have certain
Speaker 4: energies or whatnot. Like what I infer that goes on
Speaker 4: in around mound sites.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I've never really done the research that could very well
Speaker 4: be a mound site. There was a lot of mound
Speaker 4: sites in that area for sure, mainly the shell mound sites.
Speaker 4: Do you all have any of those out in Oregon?
Speaker 4: Have you ever seen them out there?
Speaker 5: No? No, we don't have it. No, the indigenous have
Speaker 5: been destroyed. Yeah, well, the indigenous out here were nomadic.
Speaker 5: They didn't have any place where they set down anchors
Speaker 5: and were somewhere married stuff.
Speaker 4: It were different maybe the recent indigenous. But these are
Speaker 4: shell midden mounds were thousands of years old, just like
Speaker 4: the Adiena mounds of the east. We don't really know
Speaker 4: who built them, right, but yeah, the mouth of the
Speaker 4: Columbia was littered with them there on the north north
Speaker 4: side of Oregon.
Speaker 5: That I would assume they've been dug up in.
Speaker 4: Destroy Yeah, I mean I tracked a lot of the records.
Speaker 2: Most of them are destroyed.
Speaker 4: They're nearly late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds during the
Speaker 4: various gold rushes of the Northwest, especially around the Seattle region.
Speaker 4: Pike's Place Market that's built on that's built on a
Speaker 4: shell midden mound site. Okay, Third Seattle Wow where the
Speaker 4: coffee folks started their coffee company with the the logo
Speaker 4: of the Babylonian fish goddess, right right, Nick?
Speaker 2: Is that what that is?
Speaker 1: Say it again?
Speaker 2: Which one Starbucks?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 6: I honestly think that could be a playoff of a
Speaker 6: few of them. Like I I even had Nicks on
Speaker 6: my show at one point, even cover Uh. I think
Speaker 6: it was Mussolin And like my opinion she gave, she
Speaker 6: gave a good case that it could be even that goddess,
Speaker 6: and like I'd never heard of that one until until
Speaker 6: she brought it to my attention. So I don't know,
Speaker 6: I don't know who, but it's definitely I think some
Speaker 6: sort of you know, goddess from from the back of
Speaker 6: the day. I don't think it was something new. It's
Speaker 6: a playoff of something.
Speaker 4: What was the one you just named besides the Babylonian
Speaker 4: fish goddess.
Speaker 6: I think it was Mussoline emmy su.
Speaker 2: Can you spell that again?
Speaker 1: M u s m E s U l I n
Speaker 1: E I think em e l u s I.
Speaker 2: Ny okay, I got it.
Speaker 1: I'll be looking at it.
Speaker 5: It's got a tight end with alchemy, I guess. And
Speaker 5: that's it right there.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, European stuff, huh. Not Babylonian stuff. Eh oh,
Speaker 4: this is a much later deity, huh. The Limburg Luxembourg dynasty,
Speaker 4: the House of Andrew and their descendants, the House of
Speaker 4: planted Plantagenet, which is, you know, every US president basically
Speaker 4: in the French House of lusign I don't know how
Speaker 4: to pronounce that. And for shorter periods of time, Yadi
Speaker 4: Jerusalem folks, there are are set in folk tales and
Speaker 4: medieval literature to be descended from Methuselah.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 4: What do we calling this thing? Melu sign maluse sign
Speaker 4: melle's in according to the the phonetic pronunciation.
Speaker 1: Here I forgot how she say it.
Speaker 4: The story combined several major legendary themes. Are you go,
Speaker 4: nick such as something with an N, something with an
Speaker 4: n water non for mermaid. There we go with fish goddess,
Speaker 4: I guess the Earth being the genus or guardian spirit
Speaker 4: of a location, the suckubiss who comes from the diabolical
Speaker 4: world to unite carnally with a man or the Banshee's
Speaker 4: or harbinger of death. Well, she's got a lot of
Speaker 4: skill sets. She's very prolific skill sets.
Speaker 1: She's got it. She's got a decent reserme right, she's.
Speaker 5: Out there doing things.
Speaker 2: No, but we were saying, is they mashed together different ones?
Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 4: I could see the Starbucks people doing that too, right, right,
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's abidden mound site. So that that mound
Speaker 4: site or that location for whatever reason, I'm not I
Speaker 4: don't know why. But are you you all familiar with
Speaker 4: the Heaven's Gate cult?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Right, they put they put on the.
Speaker 4: Purple robes, the black nikes, and they all got one
Speaker 4: hopped a right ontoy's bout comment? So they actually the
Speaker 4: first thing Marshall apple White, the leader did and his
Speaker 4: his nurse from the mental institution he left in Texas.
Speaker 4: That that's who started that cult was Homeboy and his
Speaker 4: mental institution nurse. They went up there. I think we
Speaker 4: talked about this last time we were on here. Bt
Speaker 4: about you know, five six weeks ago here and when
Speaker 4: you join us for a previous fridays. They recruited out
Speaker 4: of that small Oregon town, right, they went up to
Speaker 4: they left Texas, went to the small Oregon town to
Speaker 4: recruit from this.
Speaker 2: Other cult, the Holy Rollers of.
Speaker 4: Edmin Credfield, right and Cradfield got murdered up in Pike's
Speaker 4: Place and the and later when they renovated the place
Speaker 4: back in the eighties, the Heaven's Gate Cult bought the
Speaker 4: brick you could purchase the brick to sponsor the renovations
Speaker 4: of Pike's Place market and they bought the brick on
Speaker 4: the site where Edmond.
Speaker 2: Crawfield was murdered, the guy who started the cult.
Speaker 4: That they that they comprised their cult with the core
Speaker 4: original members of the Heaven's Gate Cult besides apple White
Speaker 4: and his nurse were the descendants of this.
Speaker 2: Cult, the Holy Rollers of Edmond Craffield. They were a.
Speaker 4: Sex ritual sex you know, Holy roller, I guess is
Speaker 4: the terminology describing. And they were just kind of roll
Speaker 4: around on the ground, I guess during the religious ceremonies
Speaker 4: and my understanding. So a lot of sex involved, Like
Speaker 4: dude was banging everybody. I don't know what else, what
Speaker 4: other kind of sex, but the leader was definitely I mean,
Speaker 4: that's why I got murdered. He ran away with one
Speaker 4: of the dude's daughters in the cult banging. Dude's wife
Speaker 4: ran away with his daughter, and I was like, I've
Speaker 4: had enough.
Speaker 1: I feel like if you start a cult, you're supposed
Speaker 1: to be doing some shit like that though, right.
Speaker 6: Like that's part of like part of like the reason
Speaker 6: why you thought it Otherwise, Yeah, it's not like a real.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just a religion.
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be traumatizing, not helping, right.
Speaker 4: I just think I think places like that like Pike's Place,
Speaker 4: is somehow a very esoteric understanding from a number of groups, right,
Speaker 4: not the least of which was the Starbucks folks, or
Speaker 4: the or the Holy or the Heapits Gate folks. So
Speaker 4: what other weird stuff is going on in Oregon these
Speaker 4: days or in your regions they're in your research and activities,
Speaker 4: there bt.
Speaker 5: Not a whole lot. I was just I was just
Speaker 5: actually just thinking about we were talking about the Evans
Speaker 5: Gate there, and that was at a Waledport Organ in
Speaker 5: the thank you, Yes, And I guess there was some
Speaker 5: pretty crazy occult stuff going on over there. I haven't
Speaker 5: really dived, yeah, but uh, I was just just thinking
Speaker 5: about I mean, besides, well, you know, besides you know,
Speaker 5: Applegate and and stuff. But they think the area was
Speaker 5: on a on a lay line and it may have
Speaker 5: had some kind of esoteric significance. That's why they were there.
Speaker 1: I never looked at that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Walledport Organ, it's on the coast. It's been pretty yeah,
Speaker 5: new agers and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Okay, so it does have it does have that reputation then,
Speaker 4: right is that because of the Holy Rollers?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: Because they were the ones who found in that town
Speaker 2: is miner standing.
Speaker 5: I mean it could be that. It could be you know,
Speaker 5: it could be Applegate. I mean it's people people spawned
Speaker 5: to places just from word of mouth too.
Speaker 4: Sure, well at the time they at the time I
Speaker 4: remember correctly, this is this is nowhere near like Portland is.
Speaker 4: Here is the Corvallis huh and Eugene.
Speaker 5: It's Waalport's on the coast, so south of or north
Speaker 5: of port and south.
Speaker 2: Of yeah right there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the Holy Rollers were operating in Corvallis, right,
Speaker 4: and then they threw them out of town. I think
Speaker 4: that was nineteen thirty two, and I believe we'll just
Speaker 4: look it up, don't. I think they were the ones
Speaker 4: that founded this town. If not, there was like a
Speaker 4: fishing town or something beforehand.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a lot of urching towns up and down,
Speaker 5: especially south of the rivers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, people, you get a lot of that on that
Speaker 4: coast then, huh right, two thousand people today apparently are
Speaker 4: twenty ten.
Speaker 2: Here we go.
Speaker 4: In September seventy five, Marshall apple White and Bonnie Nettles
Speaker 4: gave a lecture in Walport on UFOs, which was attended
Speaker 4: by roughly one hundred and fifty people. In the following days,
Speaker 4: an estimated twenty residents, nearly one out of thirty people
Speaker 4: who lived in the town, abandoned their homes and possessions
Speaker 4: and joined their group.
Speaker 2: Heaven's Gate, and Oregon.
Speaker 4: State Police investigation concluded new laws have been broken. So
Speaker 4: those twenty people were descendants.
Speaker 2: Of the Holy Rollers. Wow, okay, yeah, I'm my understanding.
Speaker 4: Most of the one hundred and fifty folks that were
Speaker 4: in attendance at the the whatever the holiday in conference
Speaker 4: center they rented out. You know what I mean, we're
Speaker 4: part of that. We're descendants from that cult, which again
Speaker 4: is weird. You're going to this obviously off the beaten
Speaker 4: path town, especially in nineteen seventy five, right, I mean
Speaker 4: it's off the beaten path now, right BT Oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you have to be traveling down the interstate
Speaker 5: Interstate one to be to pass back there.
Speaker 4: And the coastline, correct me if I'm wrong. I mean
Speaker 4: that's still largely unpopulated, right, the Oregon coastline.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean if we were to compare it
Speaker 5: to California or anywhere on the East coast.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean Wallport's got tooth people. What's the
Speaker 4: biggest one, cous Bay or Astoria.
Speaker 5: Or Newport?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 2: I heard they're making a new Goonies, these sons of bitches.
Speaker 5: A new Coonies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're making Goonies. Josh Rowlan's probably rolling over in
Speaker 4: his grave. I know he's still alive. But there's Goodies
Speaker 4: is not the same without the original cast, and they're
Speaker 4: all old. He can't put them in there. Now, what
Speaker 4: are they what are they gonna do? The children of
Speaker 4: the goonies. Oh yeah, interesting, Yeah, dude, the story has
Speaker 4: only got ten thousand people.
Speaker 2: Not very big.
Speaker 5: Not really. A lot of our towns in Oregon aren't
Speaker 5: all that big. I mean, he's Portland, Salem, Eugene.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like at the time. It looks like
Speaker 2: at the time.
Speaker 4: In nineteen twenty, before the Holy Rollers moved into town,
Speaker 4: there was one hundred and eighty one folks in Wallport,
Speaker 4: and then the next decade they basically doubled that for them,
Speaker 4: one hundred and two percent increase. By nineteen thirty. That
Speaker 4: was the Holy Rollers that moved into town. So they
Speaker 4: didn't start it, but they largely took over the town.
Speaker 1: Y'all hope this dude's joke.
Speaker 6: And someone said that Corey Felman is recording the soundtrack
Speaker 6: for the new one.
Speaker 4: That's awesome. I hope so due that'd be awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Corey felt. I love it when Corey Felman thinks he's
Speaker 4: a musician. It's one of my favorite things in life.
Speaker 1: It's definitely entertating.
Speaker 2: It's fair, dude, because he's so serious.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, his music video for Ascension Millennium. I'm not
Speaker 4: sure I realized. I know that the title of that
Speaker 4: song way too easily. Because I've watched the music video
Speaker 4: a few thousand times. It's one of the best music
Speaker 4: videos ever, dude, Because again, he's dead serious. He emulates
Speaker 4: Michael Jackson out the entire film or the entire thing.
Speaker 4: Sean aston An appearance as his role in the Goon.
Speaker 4: He's handing home boy a map and inhaler right, and
Speaker 4: then okay, I mean, are you all not familiar with this, uh,
Speaker 4: this Corey Feldman classic. No, well, I've seen some stuff
Speaker 4: with him. Let me let advancing and let let me
Speaker 4: help you out with that.
Speaker 6: You remember how he scammed so many people out of
Speaker 6: like them thinking he was gonna come out and say
Speaker 6: some crazy ship and asking for like donations and all
Speaker 6: that stuff, and he was gonna chry h.
Speaker 2: Wasn't that wild? Dude?
Speaker 4: He raised hundreds of thousands of dollars on more than
Speaker 4: one yo.
Speaker 6: And you know what the funny thing is is part
Speaker 6: of his reasoning for that is to pay for people
Speaker 6: for protection. I'm like, times, you gotta pay people to
Speaker 6: protect you to come out with this stuff, Like, come.
Speaker 2: On, guy, he's always got so many stories, dude. Story.
Speaker 1: When I heard that, I was like, oh, yeapathetic.
Speaker 4: I was just cruising Twitter, you know, back in the
Speaker 4: old Twitter days, around maybe July twenty seventeen, and I
Speaker 4: was like, holy shit, Corey Feldman played it played a
Speaker 4: rock concert at a double A baseball stadium in Pennsylvania
Speaker 4: and there was like five people watching it.
Speaker 2: I was like, what is going on right now? Dude?
Speaker 1: Oh god?
Speaker 4: So that was that was the first time I saw,
Speaker 4: you know, Corey Feldman as a musician, you know, and
Speaker 4: got familiarized with this whole act.
Speaker 2: BT, you're not hipped any of this.
Speaker 5: I have none. No, I've never listened to anything like Corey.
Speaker 4: But you're familiar with the legendary Corey Feldman though, right,
Speaker 4: Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Yo, b had Arian Sajes James As. That's horrible.
Speaker 2: H He's for sure. He's for sure all the way serious.
Speaker 2: He's so serious.
Speaker 1: Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 4: No, he's lost band members over this. Remember he did
Speaker 4: the whole Hugh Hefner thing, right, he had the whole
Speaker 4: Corey's angels.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, dude, he's I be Hugh Heffner.
Speaker 1: Look at it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude.
Speaker 4: Oh, I've been tracking. I've been Corey Feldman my reality TV.
Speaker 4: I just watching when Corey Feldon does in life that
Speaker 4: and John Hankley speaking of the things, John Hankley has
Speaker 4: got himself a Jody Foster uh you know, uh, you
Speaker 4: know stand in. He tweeted, I follow him on twixter
Speaker 4: and I just you know, I like to retweet all.
Speaker 4: I'm one of the few people that retweets his things.
Speaker 2: You know. Not that feel bad for the guy. It's
Speaker 2: more of a bit for me obviously. But he posted
Speaker 2: a photograph yesterday of.
Speaker 4: A young lady that he's seemingly hugging with a seemingly
Speaker 4: calling his you know, his gal, and she looks a
Speaker 4: lot like a young Jody Foster, just saying that's not
Speaker 4: a good sight. It's not a good not a good
Speaker 4: look for you, John, not a good look. You're all
Speaker 4: familiar with the with him stalking Jody Foster, Right, I've
Speaker 4: heard of go ahead, well, he claimed he murdered Reagan
Speaker 4: to impress Joe.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yes, I was gonna say, if that's the
Speaker 6: same person, I have heard of that.
Speaker 4: Dude, Yeah, that's that was Yeah, let me see what
Speaker 4: I got, you know, I'll just me describing it. Doesn't
Speaker 4: really do it justice.
Speaker 1: Do you do it? You're still pulling up, Uh Feldman
Speaker 1: or what?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just took a quick teacher right here because
Speaker 4: we were talking about the other assassination. I was whenever,
Speaker 4: whenever I talk about Mark David Chapman, I get him.
Speaker 4: And John Hankley confused my brain holes so much. And
Speaker 4: I know there are different murderers and know they're different people.
Speaker 4: I've actually encountered John Henckley in public, so I realized
Speaker 4: these things are they're different people. But yeah, he's got
Speaker 4: himself me and and my dear friend. It's like a
Speaker 4: young Jodie Foster if you ask me, not a good look.
Speaker 2: For old John.
Speaker 4: Uh and as you wish they were Nick and Bt.
Speaker 4: I'm glad I can introduce you to this.
Speaker 3: Jit side Christ spiritual gangsters, showdy gay dude.
Speaker 2: Look how much islander he's got here.
Speaker 1: He came out of the shower with Eyeland.
Speaker 2: This is before all the angels quit because.
Speaker 1: I was at thirty three.
Speaker 2: Videos. Fantastic.
Speaker 4: You can hear how serious he is, Like.
Speaker 5: Some dude wandering around the house of the smartphone or coordinate.
Speaker 2: Oh, it only gets worse. This is bad, and it
Speaker 2: only gets worse.
Speaker 6: Did you like go into like some full on like
Speaker 6: the thing down stays.
Speaker 7: All right, got it through them to you, hailer, and
Speaker 7: he went full blowing Michael Jackson immediately out of bed.
Speaker 1: I've seen him trying to dance like him and ship.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 6: Oh wait, just wait, oh maybe this is gonna this
Speaker 6: might be what I'm about.
Speaker 1: Saw what the hand Michael Jackson did so sell with
Speaker 1: the hands?
Speaker 2: That's all you think?
Speaker 4: It is about four five three. It's a low angle,
Speaker 4: that's all I'm saying. That's a low camera angle.
Speaker 1: D Who was the plan of walking around that pool
Speaker 1: like that? Though?
Speaker 2: This is this is great?
Speaker 1: So I can't ye guy's dude shut there.
Speaker 2: Like he is in the is the ceiling?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: Bring a low budget music video? Clearly Corey's house, right?
Speaker 1: Besides Charlie Sheen, I think I had some Michael Jackson
Speaker 1: in them too.
Speaker 4: Who doesn't pick up some fresh eggs made by your
Speaker 4: chef in the middle of music video. They spent all
Speaker 4: their budget on this scene right here? All the band
Speaker 4: don't quit after.
Speaker 2: This music video the shitty green screen. Hm, So what
Speaker 2: are you? What are your thoughts there? Chance? The words
Speaker 2: don't even make sense, you know what I mean? Like?
Speaker 2: What does that even mean? Man?
Speaker 1: I mean it's Corey Felton.
Speaker 5: It's like he had trends of the body.
Speaker 1: It's just saying in the mouth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if he was. I just assume.
Speaker 4: I just assume he's medicated, you know, like Nick said,
Speaker 4: it's it's Corey Feldman.
Speaker 5: Definitely.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I raised up with a few hundred thousand dollars to
Speaker 6: tell you, Chellie, she fucked me.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He does it every couple of years. It becomes scams.
Speaker 5: But next to the.
Speaker 1: Trailer she plays splits the money with him, He's like,
Speaker 1: let's do.
Speaker 2: It again, right, right, I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 1: But he doesn't even do it. They're just like, let's
Speaker 1: keep going with it, you know.
Speaker 4: So if he's if he's in Goodies too, I'm definitely watching.
Speaker 4: Have you doing the soundtrack? I'm all in, Oh, yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's he's fifty three. A lot of all those
Speaker 5: guys are old. Those kids are old.
Speaker 4: No, yeah, dude, Brawlin's got to be pushing sixty.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: He killed it and he killed it again. See he's
Speaker 2: fifty seven.
Speaker 5: I mean, they might as well do something. I mean,
Speaker 5: they're doing another Karate Kid and they're bringing back dude.
Speaker 4: So come on, they're out of ideas. Man, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 5: That's what someone said to me, said that they're just
Speaker 5: re regurgitating old films.
Speaker 4: They've already redone karate Kid and rehashed it with a
Speaker 4: girl karate kid. They put in that queer Smith kid
Speaker 4: in there as a chinaman and Jackie Chan as a gentleman.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they've got Jackie Chan and whatever that guy's name
Speaker 5: they played Daniel in the original Karate Kid. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 5: you got to raise a new karate Kid.
Speaker 2: Daniel Russo.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: What's his real name, Ralph Maccio. Yeah.
Speaker 4: He really didn't have much of a career in Hollywood,
Speaker 4: did he.
Speaker 5: He disappeared. I think it was just a kid actor
Speaker 5: and it was gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he aged weird.
Speaker 1: Who you saying?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, uh, his family own If you.
Speaker 5: Look at his picture, I mean he kind of still looks. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he looks like he's.
Speaker 4: Plastic, That's what I'm saying, dude, I don't think he is.
Speaker 4: He just aged weird, I think right.
Speaker 6: You know him and his family owned a fuck ton
Speaker 6: of launder mats a Long Island.
Speaker 4: Oh, the matchios huh, Yeah, they are they connected.
Speaker 6: It was in Florida. It was one of the two,
Speaker 6: Like I know my my uncle, like no for a fact,
Speaker 6: but I can't remember if for a.
Speaker 1: Fact that that that they that they and I can't
Speaker 1: remember if it was neither in Florida or New York.
Speaker 2: But it was one of the seems like a good
Speaker 2: way to lounder money through launder mats.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Actually, and the reason why is my uncle's sister. My
Speaker 6: uncle's sister went to school with him and was friends
Speaker 6: with him. But I can't remember now. At one point
Speaker 6: they lived in Florida, So I just can't remember which
Speaker 6: city was in New York of Florida.
Speaker 1: That's that's how.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Gary, Yeah, but Gary Coleman had that that little
Speaker 4: in that little person disorder.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he actually had a thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I seen Rob Ralph Mancho. He was in Beer League
Speaker 4: with Already laying hunh. That was a decent movie.
Speaker 2: I suppose decent movie.
Speaker 4: The yeah we well, I got lost in it.
Speaker 2: Earlier this week.
Speaker 4: In a rabbit Oregon related rabbit hole because I was
Speaker 4: some I had a Google alert set up, an old
Speaker 4: Google alert, and for a homicide out of Salem, Oregon. Okay,
Speaker 4: or are you familiar with the city of Salem.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never been there. I've never seen what what's
Speaker 4: it like?
Speaker 2: What are we talking? I know it's near Portland? Is
Speaker 2: it Portland? Like?
Speaker 5: No, it's down near not near Portland. Actually, what's really
Speaker 5: odd is uh.
Speaker 2: What's it near?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 5: It's city, right, it is the city. It's forty two
Speaker 5: minutes away from Portland. Yeah, well that's double that. That's
Speaker 5: what I call it near Portland. But I see what
Speaker 5: you're saying. So it's all it's a whole different environment. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and it's uh the skyscrapers, which nothing's taller than the
Speaker 5: capital building. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So it's so what's the uh you have you visited there?
Speaker 3: Was?
Speaker 4: What's the what's their economic situation? Is it a rundown
Speaker 4: place or what are we talking here?
Speaker 5: No, Salem's not Rundown. It's it's the it's the center
Speaker 5: of politic in Oregon.
Speaker 2: It's the capital.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the capital of the state.
Speaker 2: They do capital stuff there right in Monroe County.
Speaker 5: Uh, Marion, Marion County.
Speaker 2: There we go. I knew it was close to it.
Speaker 5: Very close. It's hard to see the words on the screen.
Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying. So outside of the Capitol.
Speaker 4: The industry. There is no industry there, it seems from
Speaker 4: my from what I looked at.
Speaker 1: Not really.
Speaker 5: No, yeah, every everybody.
Speaker 2: Government, but governments, the industry, right right?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're living there and working in Portland or something.
Speaker 2: That's all I was gonna ask, is it Is it
Speaker 2: a commuter town for Portland? Yeah? Because it's not that big, right,
Speaker 2: thirty thousand people? Maybe? Right? You got an enchanted forrest?
Speaker 2: What's that about? It's a theme park?
Speaker 5: Chanted Forest is the theme park's been there forever?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been there.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's pretty, it's entertaining. I mean, it's pretty
Speaker 5: much just as fairy Tale Land.
Speaker 2: I've never heard of the series Grim.
Speaker 5: Yep, Graham is a great show. It was filmed in Portland, Orgon.
Speaker 2: Okay, how about Portland? Ya? Was that filmed in Portland? Organ?
Speaker 4: I do believe so, wouldn't it be weird? They filmed
Speaker 4: in like Vancouver, Canada or something? And well they filmed
Speaker 4: the Hatfield of McCoy's T n T mini series with
Speaker 4: Kevin Coster and Gang. They filmed that in Romania. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I was watching him like that ain't West Virginia?
Speaker 2: You know that?
Speaker 4: Ain't that ain't Logan County, West Virginia, you know, and uh,
Speaker 4: that's my that's some of Mike ken Folk and that story.
Speaker 4: For example, you'll see Big Badge in vance, he quote
Speaker 4: unquote enforcer of the Hatfield clan. That would be a
Speaker 4: Devil's Anne's uncle, Devil's Ann's Hatfield, the leader of the
Speaker 4: Hatfield clan.
Speaker 2: His uncle.
Speaker 4: He's allegedly the man who started the feud by killing
Speaker 4: one of the McCoy's. He was a he was a
Speaker 4: Confederate troop to McCoy was a Union troop, and uh,
Speaker 4: they had a dispute in the immediate aftermath of the
Speaker 4: Civil War there and he shot home Boy apparently.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: But anyhow, I was watching that, you know, I was
Speaker 2: watching the watching that.
Speaker 4: I don't watch a lot of TV, but I was,
Speaker 4: you know, I was kind of excited to watch that,
Speaker 4: you know, kind of a you know, story of mckenfolk
Speaker 4: there and uh, in my home, my home there in
Speaker 4: Logan County, that's where my people hail from there, And
Speaker 4: so I'm watching, I'm like, well, this isn't this isn't
Speaker 4: West Virginia.
Speaker 2: I'll look come to filming location. It was Romania.
Speaker 4: I'm like why would you go to Romania to film
Speaker 4: a story about West Virginia. I mean, you want to
Speaker 4: talk about a cheaper place to film. I can't imagine
Speaker 4: Romania is cheaper than West Virginia. Yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: talking about downtrodden economies, you know. Yeah, Bill Paxton or
Speaker 4: Bill Pullman, which one? I don't know.
Speaker 2: They're the same, They're the same guy if you ask me. No. So,
Speaker 2: I was looking at Salem. So isn't it odd that
Speaker 2: it is?
Speaker 4: You know, it's the political capital and center of Oregon.
Speaker 4: At a lot of crime in that town, man, it's
Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of weird murders in that town.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Yeah. There was one where basically father killed
Speaker 5: his wife and then his like three kids. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: then they basically tore the building down in the land.
Speaker 5: Somebody bought it and refuses to build on it.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know if I saw that one had.
Speaker 5: That was years upon years ago, probably ten or fifteen
Speaker 5: years ago by now.
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't get that far back. I went like
Speaker 2: five years back.
Speaker 5: Really interesting story.
Speaker 4: In the last five years, there's been a lot of
Speaker 4: weird murdering Salem, and the authorities act very strange about
Speaker 4: all of it. So, and the reason, this is how
Speaker 4: I got stuck in this rabbit hole. So, and this
Speaker 4: is why I had a Google alert for any of
Speaker 4: this nonsense. And early on, you familiar with the Idaho
Speaker 4: four case. I'm Nick's shaking his head like I was
Speaker 4: asking him. We've done about fourteen or fifteen hours on
Speaker 4: the subject on the occult rejects. I know, I know
Speaker 4: you're familiar with it. Nick, We've done even more on
Speaker 4: my show. We've probably done it collectively, at least me
Speaker 4: and Nick together at least twenty hours.
Speaker 2: I'd say, oh, yeah, that is probably true. A lot
Speaker 2: we've had.
Speaker 4: We've had Ron on a Fridays. You and I talked
Speaker 4: about an operation GCD. We've done seven shows with Ron
Speaker 4: right collectively there on.
Speaker 2: All three of our shows.
Speaker 4: So but yeah, So early on in the Idaho four case,
Speaker 4: long enforcement authorities in Idaho, this is this case they're
Speaker 4: trying to put on Brian Coberger up there with four
Speaker 4: homicides of college students in the middle of the night
Speaker 4: back in November twelfth, thirteenth, twenty twenty two. Right, so
Speaker 4: law enforcement authorities sums up their asses immediately, even though
Speaker 4: they declared itn't isolated targeted attack.
Speaker 2: Then they're like, yeah, we don't have a clue though,
Speaker 2: and then.
Speaker 4: Days later they're like, you know what, let's insert some
Speaker 4: conspiracy theories from the podium, and then we'll later yell
Speaker 4: at folks for talking about conspiracy theories relative to this
Speaker 4: case while they are declaring they have no suspects and
Speaker 4: need help from the public to i to even identify
Speaker 4: folks later slightly longer portion of the tail. But before
Speaker 4: all that, you know, within two weeks of the murder,
Speaker 4: they're they're literally on the podium, the law enforcement authorities
Speaker 4: of Idaho saying, we're going to compare this, this murder,
Speaker 4: this home invasion stabbings, you know, alleged stabbings, because we
Speaker 4: don't that's what they're claiming in Idaho to a home
Speaker 4: invasion in Salem, Oregan a of a couple that did
Speaker 4: not even fit the mode of operations of this crime whatsoever.
Speaker 2: But law enforcement authorities in.
Speaker 4: Idaho were like, you know what, we're gonna go ahead
Speaker 4: and compare these and make sure they're not connected. That happened,
Speaker 4: I believe in August of twenty twenty one, right, and again,
Speaker 4: Idaho authorities invoked this into their whole situation, and they
Speaker 4: even later days after that would say held another press
Speaker 4: conference and say, you know what, we looked into it, folks.
Speaker 2: It's clear. It's clear.
Speaker 4: The people of Salem, Oregon, the authorities out there were like,
Speaker 4: what the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: Right, so, you know, I flagged the case just to
Speaker 4: follow it, and there was finally an update in it. Right,
Speaker 4: the family is suing the family the victims, you know,
Speaker 4: so August twenty twenty one, someone invades this home, you know,
Speaker 4: mid twenties, married couple of early thirties were the victims.
Speaker 4: Different mo very clearly a different mo when when the
Speaker 4: attacker comes in the middle of the night with a
Speaker 4: knife but wakes the couple up and fight ensues with
Speaker 4: the man right he you know, he stabs the wife,
Speaker 4: murders her, but is murdering the whole But I mean
Speaker 4: it was there was a large fight that ensued, right,
Speaker 4: And they were very clear about this from moment one.
Speaker 4: The authorities were right. So not the same situation in Idaho.
Speaker 4: There was allegedly no fight that ensued. I don't believe
Speaker 4: that story, but that is the narrative in which they're
Speaker 4: spinning and you know, a silent, silent crime of quadruple homicide.
Speaker 4: But why they invoked this in the first place and
Speaker 4: beyond me. But that's what caused me to focus on
Speaker 4: this case. So the family of these victims from the
Speaker 4: August twenty twenty one incident in Salem, which has nothing.
Speaker 2: To do with Idaho, and again, why Idaho.
Speaker 4: Authorities decided to play that game is a different story altogether.
Speaker 4: But it's a real shit show there, bt you. You
Speaker 4: don't need to you don't need you know. The long
Speaker 4: and the short of it is, there's some gross violations
Speaker 4: of someone's rights. There's a lack of justice in the situation,
Speaker 4: and it's gonna be a landmark case in the courts.
Speaker 5: Is this the one where they're trying to say that
Speaker 5: it was autism?
Speaker 4: Well, the media is fun. There's such a propaganda machine
Speaker 4: behind this what the whole stitch situation?
Speaker 2: It seems to be an offshoot.
Speaker 4: Of an Iran contra type environment popping off up there
Speaker 4: in rural Washington, Idaho, and this Brian Coberger is the
Speaker 4: fall guy of the environment. When I say I ran
Speaker 4: contrace situation. There's literally individuals that were involved in Iran
Speaker 4: Contra and the money laundering that are involved in this
Speaker 4: situation directly associated with the university president and directly associated
Speaker 4: an owner of a co owner of a bank that
Speaker 4: was used for money lundering just one of the both campuses,
Speaker 4: which I which I alleged was the triggering event for
Speaker 4: the for the homicides in the first place. So there's
Speaker 4: literally people from Iran Contra associated with this stuff, a
Speaker 4: lot of drug trafficking, it seems a lot of money
Speaker 4: laundering rate, a lot of government intrusion. Right when I
Speaker 4: say I ran Contra when the dominoes fell and I
Speaker 4: ran Contra, one of the people owning one of the
Speaker 4: money laundering banks with the director of which in Miami, Florida,
Speaker 4: was the US Attorney for the Southern District of Florida.
Speaker 4: So the guy's supposed to be enforcing crimes is literally
Speaker 4: the director of the CIA money laundering bank that's connected
Speaker 4: his is co director, and that was f Lee Bailey,
Speaker 4: you know, the infamous OJA attorney amongst you know, Patty Hurst,
Speaker 4: amongst other cases.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's.
Speaker 4: Literally one of these kind of situations that seems to
Speaker 4: be going on up there in the Pacific, not far
Speaker 4: from you there in the Pacific Northwest, so, you know,
Speaker 4: distracting folks with other murders, that could be part of that,
Speaker 4: you know that, you know, don't look over here at all,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Moscow, Idaho is quite a ways away from Salem, Morgan.
Speaker 4: Right, right, So why would you even connect the two, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's like five hundred miles, right, six hundred miles.
Speaker 5: It's an all day drive. It's an eight hour, eight
Speaker 5: hour drive. I mean, you're not even yeah, so, yeah,
Speaker 5: it didn't make any sense.
Speaker 4: So the family these victims in Salem, the google or
Speaker 4: I got was the family of these victims in Salem
Speaker 4: are suing the local government authorities because it has now
Speaker 4: been they didn't name the suspect which involved in the
Speaker 4: actual murder out there, but long enforce. So when Idaho
Speaker 4: invokes this ship with Salem, I don't think Salem had
Speaker 4: anything deal with what was going on because it sounds
Speaker 4: like they had their suspect the entire time, right, but
Speaker 4: they're sitting on they were sitting on that information for
Speaker 4: a different reason. So their suspect committed suicide. The person
Speaker 4: who apparently committed those crimes through through again the bloody
Speaker 4: scene that existed at the home at the murders, and
Speaker 4: that's in that situation.
Speaker 2: In August of twenty twenty one, he.
Speaker 4: Apparently the assailant apparently bled out a lot there two
Speaker 4: again as a bloody scene. According to law enforcement, they
Speaker 4: identified him with DNA to be this other fellow, this
Speaker 4: fellow that was uh you know, was under the guise
Speaker 4: of the state at the time, so to speak.
Speaker 2: He was on probation.
Speaker 4: He literally that same month, he just got put on
Speaker 4: probation for some felonies from earlier that year. And when
Speaker 4: later he get picked up for violating that probation months
Speaker 4: later and commit suicide instead of going to going back
Speaker 4: to court for that probation violation. So they knew who
Speaker 4: when the dude was in the fall of twenty twenty one,
Speaker 4: when he committed suicide, he just got a question of
Speaker 4: the crime and committed suicide right right, and the state's
Speaker 4: culpable because they were reliable for his activities and monitoring
Speaker 4: his activities because during that time when he was on probation,
Speaker 4: in the thirty days from when he got you know,
Speaker 4: from the the agreement, the play agreement to the sensing
Speaker 4: of it, he got pulled over like twice and popped
Speaker 4: for marijuana with this probation officer. So they were ignored.
Speaker 4: Like what, I don't know what else is going on
Speaker 4: with why they're hiding this? But those are on its surface?
Speaker 4: Why right, but the families, I find an interest in
Speaker 4: the family suing them. I just whatever went on with
Speaker 4: comparing that crime to again that the distant crime to
Speaker 4: Moscow is beyond me, but it was. I thought it
Speaker 4: was very interesting. But so but the activities of the
Speaker 4: Salem authorities caused me to look a little bit deeper
Speaker 4: in what's you know, just the I just ran a
Speaker 4: search on the murders in the town, right in the
Speaker 4: last five years, a lot of strange murders, a lot
Speaker 4: of strange political activity surrounding these murders. I was, what
Speaker 4: goes on in Salem, Oregon?
Speaker 1: Offles on that act? What's that people don't know how
Speaker 1: to act?
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I don't know, dude.
Speaker 4: Just you know, when you have a town that's the
Speaker 4: only industry's government and and you know, to me, you
Speaker 4: don't expect to see all these kind of activities, right,
Speaker 4: Like it's very odd.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's the problem.
Speaker 4: That's what I was thinking, right, that's why. But it's
Speaker 4: a conservative town compared to Portland, right, BT, yeah, big town,
Speaker 4: because Oregon is largely well, I mean not, I wouldn't
Speaker 4: say largely read. But there's still a lot of red
Speaker 4: voters in Oregon.
Speaker 5: Right, it's mostly red. It's it's just blue in the
Speaker 5: big big the main hub CITI is Portland, Eugene, Corvallis, Bend,
Speaker 5: basically wherever we've got a massive amount of population, that's usually.
Speaker 5: But if you look out in the country and you
Speaker 5: know out here the sticks where we live, and everybody
Speaker 5: votes read.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone's always worried about protecting the integrities of investigations,
Speaker 4: especially that Idaho case, which is just a.
Speaker 2: Common like political term just.
Speaker 4: To say, oh no, we were worried about the integrity
Speaker 4: of this investigation. Now we're going to release the JFK
Speaker 4: documents tomorrow, and we're gonna release the Epstein document too.
Speaker 4: I mean, like you can trust us. It's the same
Speaker 4: line of nonsense, right, But I just have you seen
Speaker 4: have you seen any kind of besides the one strange
Speaker 4: murder there in Salem from Marion County, have you seen
Speaker 4: any strange political intersection with murders in the in that area.
Speaker 5: No, I mean, I mean we had like a case,
Speaker 5: oh I think it was her name's like Amy Robertson
Speaker 5: or something like that. She killed her son, Amy roberts Yeah,
Speaker 5: she killed her son. And that was. That was way
Speaker 5: back in like twenty seventeen. And I guess they've revisited
Speaker 5: last year, and so they're going to basically keep her
Speaker 5: in the Salem mental hospital because she's insane or something.
Speaker 5: Well a quote unquote, and.
Speaker 2: We want to double check on that.
Speaker 4: Allegedly, the guy in our introduction The Night Flow, Jared Visa,
Speaker 4: allegedly he's in a mental hospital in Connecticut.
Speaker 2: However I can't confirm that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean even today there was like a you.
Speaker 1: Can still be out looking for you, dude.
Speaker 4: Dude, Well how about this when I sent you that
Speaker 4: photo of the dead chicken, the headless chicken in my
Speaker 4: in my driveway there night?
Speaker 2: How about this?
Speaker 4: It wasn't even my immediate thought that that was Buffalo
Speaker 4: Jared until somebody had brought up to me later and
Speaker 4: I was like, holy shit, why did I not think
Speaker 4: of that?
Speaker 2: You never know, dude, I don't know. I can't roll
Speaker 2: it out.
Speaker 6: I suppose you just see him one night, like like
Speaker 6: peeking into the window.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had.
Speaker 4: I walked out of my my was walking my dog
Speaker 4: there and I BT and I just got home a
Speaker 4: couple hours prior, and I was, you know, sitting my
Speaker 4: RV do you know, shaming away at the computer. I
Speaker 4: got out to take my dog for walking around the farm.
Speaker 4: And I don't live anywhere near anybody, dude, Like my
Speaker 4: nearest neighbor is a good quarterbile.
Speaker 1: I mean, Nixon, I can tell you for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2: I'm not on the wait anything. You're not like just
Speaker 2: stopping by here.
Speaker 6: No, No, that is one thing. Yeah, to get to you.
Speaker 6: It's like you specifically are.
Speaker 1: Going that way. Yeah, dude, get you got.
Speaker 6: I even thought that too, because it was something else
Speaker 6: you would tell me about. I think, like somebody like whatever,
Speaker 6: another story with your property or something. And I was like, yo,
Speaker 6: in order to come over here, you have to like
Speaker 6: be coming like you're coming here in this direction.
Speaker 1: For a reason.
Speaker 4: It was that cat, Remember that cat. I finally got
Speaker 4: it up. We've finally got it at home here just
Speaker 4: just the other day. But something someone dropped off a
Speaker 4: cat here like three months ago, like a three month
Speaker 4: old cat about three I would.
Speaker 2: Mean I'm guessing the age of the cat. It was
Speaker 2: a tiny cat.
Speaker 4: But I've been you know, I've been feeding it and
Speaker 4: giving a shelter for you know, for the last three
Speaker 4: months to get it home because I ain't living here,
Speaker 4: not that beast, not my trailer, not here, not now,
Speaker 4: not today. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 4: gotta have a letter box in here. Dude, I'm not
Speaker 4: We're not doing that. We're not doing that. Yeah, Abnerraboy
Speaker 4: my dog here, he shuts outside. You know, he knows
Speaker 4: what's going on. He's not trying to shit in cyber
Speaker 4: We're good on that conversation. So I'm not trying to
Speaker 4: have a cat around here, even though they got along fine.
Speaker 4: But I don't know how the cat got here. Someone
Speaker 4: literally would have had to intentionally bring that cat here,
Speaker 4: like that cat ain't traveling this.
Speaker 2: Far, especially at that age. Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: I came home and damn, like where the you know,
Speaker 4: the cat comes running out of the barn, you know,
Speaker 4: next to my trailer. I'm like, why is there a cat?
Speaker 4: Where did this cat come from? How did this cat
Speaker 4: get here? And asking the.
Speaker 2: Cat like how did you get here? Cat?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: You number one suspects the cat.
Speaker 6: Oh, like Jay, I mean, just for an old cat
Speaker 6: just across the property to get to your place from
Speaker 6: the next one would be like a fucking mission.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, it would be like one of them like
Speaker 4: old mid nineties early nineties at Disney movies where they
Speaker 4: you know, they voiced the animals on Long Journey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like this old cat.
Speaker 2: Right dude.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying is when I walked out of
Speaker 4: there to night, I was like, fucking headless chicken next
Speaker 4: to my car?
Speaker 2: What's this about?
Speaker 1: Can you send me this Nick?
Speaker 5: What the fucking Nick's buying the chicken?
Speaker 4: I was like, like, I mean, and I'm very very
Speaker 4: cognizant of the fact that an animal man brought it by.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't my dog. He was inside the trailer
Speaker 2: with me, right. You know. I did a I did
Speaker 2: a you know, a.
Speaker 4: Bootleg forensic study of the the quote unquote crime scene here.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 4: It was a clean cut. It was a clean cut
Speaker 4: of the head of this raccoon. Then no, it wouldn't
Speaker 4: been off or nothing. It was a clean cut. It
Speaker 4: was a clean cut.
Speaker 2: There you go, there, you go, there.
Speaker 5: You are you shutting did you shut the chickens head
Speaker 5: on your door? When you dude?
Speaker 2: Haitian voodoo? That's what I's afraid of.
Speaker 4: The hate I do live out just outside of Little
Speaker 4: Porter Prince, Ohio. I was like, did the Haitians get here?
Speaker 4: It's probably they're not like the They're not like the Sudanese.
Speaker 4: They're not good in the marathons, I don't think. But
Speaker 4: maybe they made it out this far. The weasels man,
Speaker 4: the weasels.
Speaker 2: The I mean, again, it could have been it could
Speaker 2: have been an animal.
Speaker 4: I mean, I certainly left it out there for an
Speaker 4: animal to get and it was gone a few hours later.
Speaker 4: So but again there was no apparent animal attacks to it.
Speaker 4: The head appeared to be cleanly cut off, you know,
Speaker 4: again unclear, inconclusive, inconclusive.
Speaker 1: No, I don't even I was reading that.
Speaker 6: I was like, I don't even know what that.
Speaker 4: I didn't check the gender, the gender of the chicken.
Speaker 4: It may have been a headless cock.
Speaker 5: We call them circumcised, all right, circumcised that you want
Speaker 5: to look up something interesting, it might be.
Speaker 4: The curse of none at doll. They were they were
Speaker 4: talking about the haunted doll. Robert on the cult rejects.
Speaker 4: Last night, I was like, I was in the chat.
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm out. I'm not going to stick
Speaker 4: around for this. Survived that situation once before. I'm not
Speaker 4: here to I'm not here to listen to those stories
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 2: I've lived that. I've lived that night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whenever I hear.
Speaker 2: We live on. I don't know where this fucking chicken
Speaker 2: game from. I won't tell you that much.
Speaker 5: No, you want to look up something interesting. Back in
Speaker 5: eighty nine, there was an there was a political murder. Well,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say it was political murder. This guy it
Speaker 5: was the the department head of the organ's Department of Corrections,
Speaker 5: and they think that he was murdered to cover up
Speaker 5: the corruption.
Speaker 2: Okay, well that sounds like a good reason to murder somebody.
Speaker 5: Michael Michael Frankie or something like that.
Speaker 2: Michael Frankie.
Speaker 5: Yeah, f R A n K R n c k E.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep, got him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this guy that was Yeah, this guy that they caught,
Speaker 5: uh Gable, Frank Frank Gable was the one that they
Speaker 5: said killed him. But he'd actually recently been declared innocent
Speaker 5: back in twenty nineteen. But he spent years in prison
Speaker 5: for it. Thirty years.
Speaker 4: Nice, No, I was, I would say nice to the
Speaker 4: commenter from terror to talking about still laughing at the
Speaker 4: picture from last night, the uh the Dragnet did an
Speaker 4: occult eso terror review of the film Dragnet on Operation
Speaker 4: GCD live here on Wednesday night, So it was good
Speaker 4: to I enjoyed it. You know, terror terror obviously is
Speaker 4: having a having a good life out of still so
Speaker 4: I you know, I highly recommend folks check that one out.
Speaker 4: It's you know, maybe maybe not necessarily immediately thought of
Speaker 4: as a you know, in a cult, uh deeply a
Speaker 4: cult or esoterically understood uh movie, But I would I
Speaker 4: would argue, I would dispute otherwise, dispute otherwise. So Michael
Speaker 4: Frankie here, he was murdered under some pretty suspect circumstances.
Speaker 2: You're saying.
Speaker 4: He was later appointed by then Oregon Governor Neil Goldschmid.
Speaker 4: So he came from New Mexico. He's a judge in
Speaker 4: New Mexico.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 4: Right, so that's is I don't know, that seems a
Speaker 4: bit unorthodox politically speaking, And to move in a guy
Speaker 4: like that allivted to Oregon.
Speaker 5: Right, Well, I mean, and then to be in a
Speaker 5: completely different job rofile too, because yeah, you know, it's
Speaker 5: like you're not gonna be part of the bar anymore.
Speaker 5: I mean, what's going on there?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: And he's probably himself in a whole different mafia situation
Speaker 4: up there, right, he's upset in the local boys, if
Speaker 4: you will, right, I could see that being possible, So
Speaker 4: it says. On January eighteenth, nineteen eighty nine, his body
Speaker 4: was discovered outside the department's office building in Salem in Salem, Oregon,
Speaker 4: shading motherfuckers. An autopsy determined he had been murdered the
Speaker 4: night before.
Speaker 2: Oh here we go.
Speaker 4: A local criminal was eventually tried and convicted for the
Speaker 4: crime and sentence a life in prison without parole. However,
Speaker 4: the convicted killer maintains his innocence, and several conspiracy theories
Speaker 4: have been advocated, claiming the killing was a murder for
Speaker 4: hire conducted by corrupt state prison officials. Threatened by an investigation,
Speaker 4: Frankie was conducted into prison management. Oh well, that's just
Speaker 4: that's just a silly conspiracy theory. Could anyone possibly believe?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 5: There aren't no coincidences as far as we're concerned.
Speaker 4: No all right, I'm out. I appreciate you bringing that
Speaker 4: to my attention. I'm not at all familiar with that there, BT,
Speaker 4: but I'm certainly interested in reading more about it, specifically
Speaker 4: because it happened in Salem, Oregon. That shady fucking plays Salem, Oregon.
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, I mean the fact the body was you know,
Speaker 5: he was killed the night before and then he was
Speaker 5: discovered in the morning. I mean, uh right, huh right, right,
Speaker 5: I'll say the building where people are lots of people
Speaker 5: are coming and going past that building.
Speaker 4: You mean to tell me the prison doesn't have You mean,
Speaker 4: tell me the prison doesn't have cameras BT.
Speaker 5: No, the Department of Corrections building that they're talking abouts
Speaker 5: in downtown Salem.
Speaker 2: It's it's not here, not here where it's pictured.
Speaker 5: No, he's standing what looks like next to osp Oregon
Speaker 5: State Penitentiary. Uh yeah, he's the building where near there.
Speaker 5: So yeah, there would have been if it was there,
Speaker 5: there would have been, you know, cameras everywhere, something to
Speaker 5: see that. Yeah, CCTV. Anyways, it's the eighties.
Speaker 4: So yeah, they'd have something, right, right, maybe even some
Speaker 4: sort of bird, an alert bird, maybe the crow. Perhaps
Speaker 4: I'm obviously being facetious, but I feel like Oregon's behind
Speaker 4: the times in technology.
Speaker 5: That's what it feels like, right.
Speaker 4: Never been there. That's just been my assessment of the situation.
Speaker 4: The universe will not let me visit Oregon bt. I
Speaker 4: think I've shared that with you before.
Speaker 5: You don't want to come out here. So interesting.
Speaker 4: Every time I've tried do something has interceded in my journeys.
Speaker 5: That's interesting.
Speaker 2: I got done with.
Speaker 4: Work when I was doing some business, some Air Force
Speaker 4: business up in McCord Air Force Base.
Speaker 2: Into Coma, Washington, God done, God Done. Early.
Speaker 4: Intentionally was gonna spend the later afternoon and get some
Speaker 4: dinner down in Home of the Goonies in Astoria.
Speaker 2: They're north in Oregon.
Speaker 4: And as I got down to Vancouver, Washington to cross
Speaker 4: the bridge into Oregon, there was like a twelve car
Speaker 4: pile up and the whole bridge was shut down. So
Speaker 4: I gave it an hour and a half and they
Speaker 4: hadn't really made any progress. So I'm like, well, looks
Speaker 4: like I'm not going to Oregon today.
Speaker 5: That's unfortunate, but that's okay, though I wouldn't want to
Speaker 5: deal with that bridge traffic either.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 4: The other instance, I was coming from the other direction
Speaker 4: in southern Oregon and starting from in and around Chico, California,
Speaker 4: where a couple my dudes reside, my old Air Force
Speaker 4: dudes from for many years, do routine we routinely take
Speaker 4: adventures about various parts of primarily California. But at this
Speaker 4: time we were gonna we intended to make it up
Speaker 4: to Oregon. However, driving through the coastline up to Eureka,
Speaker 4: I discovered the Lost Coast Brewing Company. And this is
Speaker 4: back this is years ago now, back when I was
Speaker 4: still a heavy drinker, and I didn't want to leave
Speaker 4: that town. It was a really cool town. So we
Speaker 4: really didn't make any further north. You know, that's putting
Speaker 4: about an hour south of the of the border there
Speaker 4: on the coastline. Are you familiar with that town, Eureka, California.
Speaker 5: I'm not. Is that close to Creston City?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never heard of Creston City. I think got
Speaker 4: to the city from Star Wars. But did you just
Speaker 4: make that up like that? I never heard of that.
Speaker 2: Ohs, I apologize. So that is.
Speaker 1: Came from.
Speaker 2: Is where the Lords originated from? All right?
Speaker 4: It sounds like you're right, It sounds fictional. Well, let's see,
Speaker 4: I don't know where. Oh that's literally right on the border. Okay, okay, no,
Speaker 4: not quite, not quite that far.
Speaker 5: Okay, not quite. I see where Eureka is, Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Eureka's Eureka's right here. Yeah, and then it is.
Speaker 4: So it's you know, and this is maybe a little
Speaker 4: bit more than an hour maybe, I guess maybe an
Speaker 4: hour and a half. Again, I didn't make any further
Speaker 4: than this, so you know, I discovered Mount Shasta on
Speaker 4: the way from Chico to the Caline, and a bunch
Speaker 4: of gigantic trees I'd never seen before. Then I got
Speaker 4: pulled over doing one hundred and ten in a fifty
Speaker 4: five near those gigantic trees. Somehow, the cop and I
Speaker 4: just laughed at each other and I drove off after
Speaker 4: the after the brief discussion to slow down, and then uh,
Speaker 4: and then I discovered, uh, Eureka, California. It was a Eureka.
Speaker 4: This place is awesome exactly. Crescent City is. What's the
Speaker 4: mayor there, beat Lando Calrissian.
Speaker 5: I don't have no, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: The uh. I would like to make it do Organ sometime,
Speaker 2: definitely not Salem though.
Speaker 5: Now you may get murdered.
Speaker 2: Dude, A lot of.
Speaker 4: Weird stuff goes on in Salem'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 4: It's up sounds like you you're well aware of though,
Speaker 4: because this Frankie murder already sounds pretty bizarre, right.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean there's a couple of other things. I
Speaker 5: think there was a fire bomb coming back in the nineties. Whoa,
Speaker 5: that was an interesting story I had to do with.
Speaker 2: I think it was lesbians of lesbian fire bombings.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like I think they were black.
Speaker 4: Or militant lesbian fire bombings. Yeah, something you're talking my
Speaker 4: language where we talked about.
Speaker 5: I think it was, let's see.
Speaker 1: Talking about all.
Speaker 4: I was, dude, I was actually going to talk about
Speaker 4: I was about to talk about domestic terrorism bombings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, relatives of a different group.
Speaker 5: We'ber twenty six, nineteen eighty two had Hee May Cohen's.
Speaker 2: Had He May Cohens.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was her black lesbian and her friend Brian Mock,
Speaker 5: a white gay man with an intellectual disability. We're killed
Speaker 5: in a fire bombing.
Speaker 8: Interesting, some white suprema skinheads, interesting, is there?
Speaker 4: Well that's kind of when a cold end section with
Speaker 4: crime in Oregon. Have you has there been any satanic
Speaker 4: crimes you can think of, not since the seventies and
Speaker 4: some serial killer activities, and my familiar with satanic activity
Speaker 4: in Oregon, but perhaps you know more than I do. Again,
Speaker 4: it's a it's a foreign land to me, a place
Speaker 4: I want to exist in thought and theory.
Speaker 5: I can't I mean other than like satanic panic stuff.
Speaker 4: No, I don't satanic panic stuff. What are we talking here?
Speaker 5: I mean it was. I mean the satanic panic in
Speaker 5: the eighties nineties was pretty much, you know, nationwide, and
Speaker 5: I think there was SUBSTI was.
Speaker 4: There some specific incidents that popped off there, perhaps in
Speaker 4: around Salem.
Speaker 5: Probably nothing I can remember that would be trying to
Speaker 5: think of things. I'd have to look it up.
Speaker 2: Located. What is that? Feral House Publications? Who that you
Speaker 2: know them?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: No, they're like the official processed church publisher Feral House.
Speaker 4: I believe the owner was a son of a CIA dude,
Speaker 4: maybe Adam Parfrey. Believe me since past he's real good
Speaker 4: friends with boyd Rice and Nicholas Shrek and Gang, you
Speaker 4: know sk this kind of this guy has what I'm
Speaker 4: talking about, right, Nick, Nicholas Shrek?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was uh O got Taylor Swift's look alike
Speaker 6: mother husband.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah about that? That that conspiracy theory. Familiar with
Speaker 4: that one there?
Speaker 6: Bt Yeah, I mean I'm not into is normally stuff
Speaker 6: like that, but I do think they do look alike.
Speaker 2: I guess he. I guess he would be. He could
Speaker 2: he could be the father in that equation. Huh uh.
Speaker 4: The the conspiracy theory that Taylor Swift is the daughter
Speaker 4: of Xena Levey Anton Levy's daughter.
Speaker 5: Oh, I've heard that. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. Ye
Speaker 5: be kind of cool, I guess, I mean from one perspective.
Speaker 5: But I thought Faral House Publishing was in Washington.
Speaker 2: Are they Okay? I thought they were in Oregon. My mistake.
Speaker 5: They're good, sir, No, I think they're I don't know where.
Speaker 5: I thought I heard him in Washington somewhere. You have
Speaker 5: to look that up.
Speaker 2: Well they, I mean, they may have moved. Also. I
Speaker 2: believe far Free from Oregon. There.
Speaker 5: It came from Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, Yeah, the city of Angels.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Farreal House Publishing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. It's definitely in poor towns. And that's
Speaker 2: nowhere near Oregon, is it? Holy smokes? His I off.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the symbolism between these two are the similarities between
Speaker 5: two that at these two is really uncanny. But I mean,
Speaker 5: these days it's it's like everybody's like related fifty second cousins.
Speaker 4: You know, Wait a second, are you telling me we're related?
Speaker 4: We're both scotsmen. Heck, yeah, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 4: think I'm a member of Clan Wallace, though we're all.
Speaker 5: We're all related by the fifty second cousin.
Speaker 2: How to say that you're Alfred?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they probably intersect for sure, but I don't know.
Speaker 4: That is a pretty uncanny resemblance, right right, But yeah, Parfrey's.
Speaker 2: Indep of that whole crowd.
Speaker 4: He like I said, he was friends with Zela Levy's husband,
Speaker 4: her and her husband there in the first book they
Speaker 4: published at Farrell House was The Satanic Witch in nineteen
Speaker 4: eighty nine by Anton LeVay. Oh you know, they published
Speaker 4: about seventeen or so, I believe was my title count sixteen.
Speaker 2: Processed church books.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, like the official publication again Parfrey's past. I
Speaker 4: have no idea who runs this operation now, but I
Speaker 4: believe his father was an OSS guy or a CIA dude.
Speaker 2: Porfrey, y'all y'all familiar with this.
Speaker 5: Guy from fifty seven to Yeah, he'd be Cia.
Speaker 2: No, his his father, His father was a Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Think that's how this. He used to talk about it.
Speaker 4: From my I think I think I heard an interview
Speaker 4: with him talking about it.
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 4: I thought he lived in Port Towns and I thought
Speaker 4: in my brain hole it was Portland, Oregon.
Speaker 5: But you know whatever, it was, weird stuff happens in Portland.
Speaker 5: It's fine. I'm okay with you saying that too.
Speaker 2: Now I want to now, I want to know what
Speaker 2: goes down in Port Townsend.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 4: So uh, Nick, Tracy Twiney would have been involved in
Speaker 4: the same crowd right with Boyd Rice, Adam par Free,
Speaker 4: Nicholas Shrek. This is the same same cruise she would
Speaker 4: have run with there when she was Boyd Rice's underling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that really is weird, right, that's me to say,
Speaker 1: like I like to hear.
Speaker 6: I knew of her and I even admitted it on
Speaker 6: the Occult Rejects because of her shrine work on the
Speaker 6: Sure Sure and you know again, like I even did
Speaker 6: h double check a lot of her stuff. So that's
Speaker 6: that's why I did, Like you know, say, I kind
Speaker 6: of got some of my information from that, but besides that,
Speaker 6: besides that, I just don't know anything else about her
Speaker 6: from like things I've heard recently, and it just seems
Speaker 6: like the people she was associated with and what she
Speaker 6: was into, right, it's very fucking weird.
Speaker 2: Right, she she she, I mean, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know anything about her. I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people love that lady.
Speaker 6: I could care less what her real deal is doesn't
Speaker 6: make a difference to me. Right, supposedly she's not here anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 4: I'll observe any sort of opinions in comments other than
Speaker 4: just discussing my interpretation from my perspective of some of
Speaker 4: the stuff she and I discussed, right, some of her work, right,
Speaker 4: we had communications about, you know, cortial communications. I didn't
Speaker 4: have any problems with the lady. We just we didn't
Speaker 4: see eye to eye on these subjects. For when were
Speaker 4: some stuff we saw, you know, I agreement song, But
Speaker 4: when it came to her work on the night standploor,
Speaker 4: we have a very hysterically different opinion on things. And again, say,
Speaker 4: what was your what was your take on her shriner stuff?
Speaker 6: I thought, for the most point it was on point,
Speaker 6: there was a few cases that I know that she
Speaker 6: brought up that I could not find that existed, but
Speaker 6: there was like at least half of them I did
Speaker 6: find existed when I actually, like I made a pacer
Speaker 6: account because I wasn't gonna bring it. She actually was showing,
Speaker 6: you know, lawsuits or referring back to them a court right,
Speaker 6: So I wasn't that about to actually reuse that unless
Speaker 6: I knew I could find them myself. And I had
Speaker 6: to make a pacer account for that shit, and I
Speaker 6: found like half of it.
Speaker 1: Some of them didn't exist.
Speaker 6: Now I don't know if that's because it's hidden, it's bullshit,
Speaker 6: I don't know what, you know what, But I was
Speaker 6: able to corroborate at least like half of the half
Speaker 6: of the shit like that. And there was a few
Speaker 6: other things that she talked about the companies that existed
Speaker 6: I think in Brazil or wherever it was that I
Speaker 6: went and did find proof of and even found the
Speaker 6: did find video news footage of them even covering something
Speaker 6: that she.
Speaker 1: Was referring to. So I mean it was well done,
Speaker 1: I think for the most part.
Speaker 4: No, and she, like I said, I had agreements on
Speaker 4: some things like we both had a very large interest
Speaker 4: for BT.
Speaker 2: Do you know who Tracy Twyman is.
Speaker 5: No, the name sounds familiar.
Speaker 2: She was. She was.
Speaker 4: She was actually from the Portland area. She was a writer, author, writer.
Speaker 4: She was a producer of Clyde Lewis the show Are
Speaker 4: you famember with Clyde Lewis? Yeah, yeah, producer for his show.
Speaker 4: She she died in her some you know, some dubious circumstances,
Speaker 4: you know, allegedly of suicide and July of twenty nineteen. Anyhow, Yeah,
Speaker 4: she and I would exchange notes, you know, on the
Speaker 4: subject of John Podesta and the occult. She was she
Speaker 4: was keenly aware of John Podesta being deeply involved in
Speaker 4: the occult. Okay, she would she would, much like myself,
Speaker 4: would stock John Podesta, you know, you know, through whatever
Speaker 4: public activities he's doing, right, his schedules, if you will,
Speaker 4: where he's talking, what he's doing, where he's going. That
Speaker 4: kind of stocking, not like physical stalking, right, I don't
Speaker 4: know anyone.
Speaker 5: Like what we do with the research and conspiracy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, if he's going, like for example, he was
Speaker 4: strangely talking down in New Zealand and at the same
Speaker 4: time as that New New Zealand shooting in March of
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: Why was he there? Right?
Speaker 4: And she and Tracy Twyman attract a connection of something
Speaker 4: scribbled on the right, and that gives was one of
Speaker 4: those you know, first person shooter kind of perspectives with
Speaker 4: the shooter wore a camera or whatever, and you could
Speaker 4: see his rifle and he had a symbol on there
Speaker 4: that she connected to John Podesta.
Speaker 5: Wasn't she really big into like alpha met stuff? Is
Speaker 5: that who this is?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So she bought, she bought
Speaker 4: in full scale on the Leo Leo some of the
Speaker 4: Tea Tangil tansel Leo Taxl, the Leo Taxl hoax of
Speaker 4: the Great Leo Taxle hoax of the late nineteenth century.
Speaker 2: Regarding this.
Speaker 4: Taxl, just was reciting stuff the Vatican published about the
Speaker 4: Templar back when they banished the Samplar. You know, again,
Speaker 4: when you're going to banish your enemy and steal all
Speaker 4: their money and wealth, you're not going to say nice
Speaker 4: things about them. We're like, yeah, these guys are queers
Speaker 4: and they banged each other because that's essentially what they say.
Speaker 4: And then on top of that, worship this bapha Met statue.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, yeah, I did a deep dive. Doctor Heather
Speaker 5: Lynn wrote a book recently about bapha Met and we
Speaker 5: talked about We talked about that on our show.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I was supposed to.
Speaker 5: Which which episode is that.
Speaker 6: Head, Let's ask me to get her probably like no
Speaker 6: lies six months ago. It was like right around the
Speaker 6: time I think the book came out, which could be
Speaker 6: And she was like yeah, yes, She's like yeah, hippy, yes,
Speaker 6: she's like email me, She's like instead of dming me here,
Speaker 6: and I think I totally forgot.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, okay, it happens. Yeah, that's very interesting.
Speaker 5: She was talking about the beginnings and the creation of
Speaker 5: the Baphomet as a as an icon and a symbol,
Speaker 5: and the origins of what's his name, Alphonse Lewis Constant,
Speaker 5: what's his pen name, Leo Taxil No, Alfonse Lewis Constant,
Speaker 5: I don't know, olips Levi that's it.
Speaker 2: Okay, yep, I got you.
Speaker 5: And so basically the creation of the image of what
Speaker 5: we look at Bapphamet today was his brainchild. Basically the
Speaker 5: image was nothing like that was like a goat of
Speaker 5: Mendy's or something like that. Beforehand.
Speaker 6: I have a friend who might come on to do
Speaker 6: kind of like a history or like a theory of
Speaker 6: his idea of like maybe where the pentagram ritual came from.
Speaker 6: And I think he does attribute him to possibly being
Speaker 6: a big part of it.
Speaker 1: Let us leave us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 4: That's my understanding is he's the creator of the Bathroo
Speaker 4: met situation and a lot of the lot of stuff
Speaker 4: Growley borrowed from him.
Speaker 1: Right, well, the Bathot thing.
Speaker 5: Curly thought he was a reincarnation of.
Speaker 1: I guess that image. I would maybe that did, but uh,
Speaker 1: the idea.
Speaker 2: Of reincarnation right of him? Right?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so would that make would that makes Timothy Leary
Speaker 4: a reincarnation.
Speaker 2: Of of by proxy? Because he claimed to be the
Speaker 2: reincarnation of Crowley?
Speaker 4: So it was an episode the timeline works out.
Speaker 6: There is David Wilcox fit in this somewhere saying he's
Speaker 6: a reincarnation. David Wilcox fitting this one way.
Speaker 4: Too, He's a he's a reincarnation of Yeah, the Sleeping
Speaker 4: Prophet guy.
Speaker 1: That was his Dave.
Speaker 2: I know, that's why I brought that up, The Sleeping
Speaker 2: Prophet guy.
Speaker 1: Oh man, why can't I remember the name.
Speaker 4: David Wilcox is a fucking He's Aloney Tune. He's Aloney Tune.
Speaker 6: The one thing I do want to say about the
Speaker 6: Baffa met thing though, that's that image pretty much. It
Speaker 6: was like the first one like that. But you know,
Speaker 6: the idea of Bohamett came before Elephant, way before even
Speaker 6: the whole Solveet Coagula thing. Heimrak Koumrath had that on
Speaker 6: his version of Wait way before, way before.
Speaker 1: This guy did.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Edward case Edgar Casey. Yes, I've covered that fucking
Speaker 6: guy on the show.
Speaker 1: That's right, dude.
Speaker 4: There's a whole there's a whole like website or YouTube
Speaker 4: channel dedicated to all this stuff that like tracking David
Speaker 4: Wilcox's life, all these lies he's been got into depositions,
Speaker 4: these police body camera footages that come to his house
Speaker 4: for these obscure complaints.
Speaker 2: Dude, dude, I'm telling you, the dude is out there.
Speaker 5: Dude, Morgan, you know they might.
Speaker 2: Be from Oregon. Ship. I don't know.
Speaker 6: Uh, there was a there was like some site I
Speaker 6: can't remember it was back in the day. It was
Speaker 6: like some well known It was probably a bullshit site.
Speaker 1: See ie site who else, but back in the day,
Speaker 1: I can't remember the name of it.
Speaker 6: It was like some site that had like all this
Speaker 6: tons of like conspiracy shit, and uh, David Wilcox ended
Speaker 6: up like he admitted that it was him, but at
Speaker 6: first he wasn't acting like it was him. Like he
Speaker 6: put out something like I think called like the Helping
Speaker 6: Hand or something like or the Hidden Hand, something like
Speaker 6: weird like that, but it was about like this this
Speaker 6: entity that somebody was supposedly I think talking to that
Speaker 6: was bringing up the.
Speaker 1: Law of one.
Speaker 6: Way. It was a way for him to promote the
Speaker 6: law of one but not actually be David Wilcox. And
Speaker 6: then like eventually he comes out and admits that that
Speaker 6: he did that, and it's like, Yo, that guy right
Speaker 6: there just.
Speaker 1: Told you he's bullshited fucking people and you still drift. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like he even like came out and admit that shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's someone who was channeling raw.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because he was friends with those people that did
Speaker 6: that raw shit supposedly, like he like basically like he.
Speaker 1: Like lived there and earned his keep doing shit just
Speaker 1: so he could like hang out with them and watch
Speaker 1: what they did.
Speaker 2: Dude, he had a he did a music album.
Speaker 4: Come on, it's kind of if he's If he's worse
Speaker 4: than Feldman, will Cox should just end it all.
Speaker 2: I mean, no disrespect. Well, I guess some disrespect.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's damn yeah with that guy.
Speaker 2: BT are familiar with the antics of one David Willcox, not.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's great, yo, BT. You and your
Speaker 1: own little bubbles conspiracy, Well.
Speaker 5: I am completely in my own little place man.
Speaker 6: This guy actually he didn't realize conspiracies exist.
Speaker 1: He just thought of his own ship.
Speaker 4: Ye Oh, he's been doing all these grafts, dude for years.
Speaker 4: He's like bigging. He's the guy that's been doing the
Speaker 4: secret space program for years. The uh, the secret space
Speaker 4: program with the whole twenty and back to Mars. Oh there,
Speaker 4: thank you, Tara, the uh Are you familiar with that?
Speaker 4: That one, the twenty and back.
Speaker 5: No, you guys are giving me homework, is what you're doing, dude.
Speaker 4: How about the Blue Avians he invented. I think he
Speaker 4: invented the Blue Avian Aliens too, dude. He's been inventing
Speaker 4: all this ship for years with Fantastic he was on
Speaker 4: ancient Aliens now I think yeah, he was on ancient
Speaker 4: Aliens the TV show.
Speaker 6: Too, Yo, Ben had Harry just mentioned fucking Project Camelot.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you remember that show.
Speaker 2: That where he came from No Project.
Speaker 1: Camelot handed as some of the shittiest fucking people.
Speaker 6: That like ended up like spinning spinning, like you know,
Speaker 6: like almost like the holy Grail of ideas and like
Speaker 6: dead ends answers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that seemed to be that seemed to be the
Speaker 2: purpose of that project.
Speaker 6: Right, Oh, oh my god, this stuff that they some
Speaker 6: of the people that they brought forth that handed you
Speaker 6: like the most ridiculous, like you're living in like a
Speaker 6: complete comic book.
Speaker 1: Matrix world believing some of those people. It is unreal.
Speaker 1: Some of the people that.
Speaker 4: I'll give you Blue Aliens as an example, right, Blue
Speaker 4: Avian Aliens, Blue Giant Birds.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Max Spierz is another one.
Speaker 6: That guy is I don't know, like hasn't that guy
Speaker 6: actually gotten busted line.
Speaker 4: Max Spears, the other guy that defect his death. There
Speaker 4: were some black go stuff when that when that Max Spears.
Speaker 6: I know, there's like people that was associated with them
Speaker 6: that Will Cox ought of running with that. Eventually, I
Speaker 6: think I busted Like actually a liner came out and
Speaker 6: admitted that he was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Max Spears.
Speaker 4: The death of UFO investigator Max Spears caused controversy and
Speaker 4: amongst conspiracists, which led to reports from the BBC News
Speaker 4: and other news outlets.
Speaker 2: Yeah he was.
Speaker 4: I remember this, dude, I remember this this happening because
Speaker 4: first of all, it's my birthday and uh, second of all,
Speaker 4: I was you know, remember reading this whole thing was
Speaker 4: like what black go UFOs did.
Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of here, dude, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Like that was my reaction, was he was?
Speaker 1: He the one that was also like somehow pointing to
Speaker 1: like the O t O about shit too.
Speaker 4: He's playing to be a super soldier, right, he was
Speaker 4: part of that whole Project Camelot movement. He's planning to
Speaker 4: be a super soldier, like Harriet was saying, just there.
Speaker 6: There was some guy Dan something that was on uh
Speaker 6: that was on Project Camelot that like like some wow,
Speaker 6: some of the people that went on there with some
Speaker 6: of the stories.
Speaker 1: Really what.
Speaker 2: BT are you familiar with the Project Camelot.
Speaker 1: I wish it was a way to actual because I
Speaker 1: don't think they're on YouTube.
Speaker 6: I wish it was a way to look up other
Speaker 6: episodes and if you went through all their fucking people,
Speaker 6: you'd be like, yo, everybody'd be like yo, you have
Speaker 6: those motherfuckers. I's not three quarters of them are all
Speaker 6: considered shady though.
Speaker 5: Is that the one that was supposed to be a
Speaker 5: counter and urgency.
Speaker 1: Funny gorilla style interviews?
Speaker 4: That's funny you say that because apparently the name Project
Speaker 4: Camelot it was the name of an Army program, Methods
Speaker 4: for Predicting and Influencing Social change and Internal War Potential. Yeah,
Speaker 4: from a counter insurgency study from nineteen sixty four. Well,
Speaker 4: it sounds like this telling this podcasting network maybe maybe
Speaker 4: an example of that project.
Speaker 2: I've never heard of that project before. Do you eat?
Speaker 2: Do you know about this? Oh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's another thing too. I never I never understood.
Speaker 6: A was like, Yo, why are you picking that name?
Speaker 6: And like align with one eye? Like come on really
Speaker 6: as a logo? I mean, I mean, I honestly think
Speaker 6: my opinion, I think her face got sucked up because
Speaker 6: she fucks with magic.
Speaker 2: She just probably should carry cassidy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and she was like, oh, you know what, I'll
Speaker 6: just turn this into gang stalking for a reason. A
Speaker 6: probably you know, suck money out of people's pockets because
Speaker 6: they feel bad.
Speaker 4: That's a good grift, right, Scarce, it's the It's the
Speaker 4: Alex Charon's grift, right, just scare people to buy your vitamins.
Speaker 5: Genius.
Speaker 1: You know what's a crazy thing now that's happening.
Speaker 2: They're getting the truth out here.
Speaker 4: But I think you got I think you were taking
Speaker 4: about Project Camel and Carry Carry Cassidy. It says right
Speaker 4: here on the website getting the truth out.
Speaker 5: Uh, you an apology, dude.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize she was still doing this. Look, she's
Speaker 2: everywhere too.
Speaker 1: You know what happened to when her and Bill broke up?
Speaker 6: Yo, That dude ended up going to somewhere like down
Speaker 6: in South America, and people followed him thinking that when
Speaker 6: there's twenty and twelve, shit was gonna happen, that the
Speaker 6: world was gonna end, but the area that they were
Speaker 6: in was gonna be safe.
Speaker 1: That was a cult. This show sprung up a cult
Speaker 1: where people literally moved down to South America because they
Speaker 1: believed from them the world was gonna fucking be in catastrophe.
Speaker 1: There's something wrong with that show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I mean, like you're saying, it's pushing a
Speaker 4: lot of these ideas that seemed to coincide strangely with
Speaker 4: this thing you guys.
Speaker 2: Were aware of.
Speaker 4: But I just now learned Project Camelot. Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, oh, why'd you split up? Why'd you
Speaker 1: split up?
Speaker 6: Because that guy just took the hardcore cult members and
Speaker 6: took them down south to see what the fuck's up.
Speaker 4: It says the project was executed by the Special Operations
Speaker 4: Research Office at American University.
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't what the fuck do they do? That's
Speaker 2: there in DC?
Speaker 4: That's an interesting not have to read about that place
Speaker 4: that's right by Common Pizza. You know, we're linebacker Buddy
Speaker 4: was hanging out.
Speaker 1: Linebacker Buddy. Oh fuck yeah, take a number from one
Speaker 1: to three.
Speaker 2: I was like, two, hey, you stopped and talked to him.
Speaker 1: Well, I gave one answer. I gave one answer. I
Speaker 1: gave one answer.
Speaker 6: Then when he started to pull it out the calendar
Speaker 6: and you're like, oh, we got no time, yeah too,
Speaker 6: I was like, oh no, he's gonna ask another question.
Speaker 1: And he said something like we don't got time for
Speaker 1: this anyway.
Speaker 2: They're hitting. Yeah, that's how that's how they get you.
Speaker 2: That's that's the hook.
Speaker 6: I was like, I really thought this was just gonna
Speaker 6: be like I thought I was gonna get like the
Speaker 6: punch line after that.
Speaker 4: Oh dude, I mean, you know he'd be quite honest
Speaker 4: with you that that individual is a good six foot
Speaker 4: four to two hundred and sixty pounds. It's not a
Speaker 4: small person, you know what I mean, he might if
Speaker 4: it chose to get violent. I mean, there was gonna
Speaker 4: be some violence. I mean, I'm not gonna say was
Speaker 4: harri than me too.
Speaker 2: They would have.
Speaker 4: Won, but you know, we would have been a fight
Speaker 4: we had had that had that because it was salty.
Speaker 4: Immediately for whatever reason I saw it coming, I was like,
Speaker 4: I don't want anything to do with this situation.
Speaker 1: You probably have to that little was that put that
Speaker 1: that that thing he was on. I have to beat
Speaker 1: him with the scooter.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to beat him with That's what I'm saying, dude.
Speaker 4: I'm saying it could have gotten weird because it got
Speaker 4: salty real quick. Dude, Like bt, this may be a
Speaker 4: common occurrence in organ I don't know if you're in
Speaker 4: a deeply weird organ part, but you may encounter violent
Speaker 4: uh linebacker sized transgendered men, uh, you know, men dressed
Speaker 4: as women. When I say man, dressed literally just this
Speaker 4: huge dude with a dress on and a scooter like it.
Speaker 2: Was that he was a guy at all.
Speaker 1: He was not.
Speaker 2: It's ma'am.
Speaker 4: You know one of these characters, Harry Legs.
Speaker 1: He fucking practically appeared like me. It was fucking up.
Speaker 4: The uh the uh got p Thomas joined us here,
Speaker 4: looks like made it here?
Speaker 2: Nice ee there, P Thomas.
Speaker 1: It was it was.
Speaker 5: Here in the country.
Speaker 2: Encountered that origin well, Nick and I encountered in front
Speaker 2: of Common Pizza one day.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the whole thing too, have like of all places,
Speaker 6: of all places, because he's like yo, because he told me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, you gotta take me over there,
Speaker 1: I gotta see this place. And we go over there.
Speaker 1: We parked like on the side street.
Speaker 6: As soon as we come around, that's like what the
Speaker 6: store right before it, I'm like, I'm like, of course,
Speaker 6: this is the first thing I see as soon as
Speaker 6: I turned the corner to head to this place is
Speaker 6: some like six foot Harry tranny with a scooter asking
Speaker 6: me pick a number from one to three.
Speaker 5: Yeah, pick a number, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Was like, true, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: He goes and then it looks like he's pulling out
Speaker 6: a calendar or some ship and then JJ is like
Speaker 6: literally he's like, I don't got time for this, so
Speaker 6: something to that effect.
Speaker 4: I know better, I've learned my lessons years ago. With
Speaker 4: these environments encounters.
Speaker 1: It has like a like a like gets on his scooter,
Speaker 1: like you know, there's like a.
Speaker 4: I was a bit of a count boy moving to
Speaker 4: DC years ago when I first got station there, and
Speaker 4: so when I you know, like there'd be a bunt, Like,
Speaker 4: for example, there was a bum that was just behind
Speaker 4: my apartment every night and the alleyway just fucking screaming
Speaker 4: every night, like two in the morning.
Speaker 2: I'm like, this motherfucker does this again the night, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So, you know, I'd finally get out of bed and
Speaker 4: my back door was like my bedroom was right there
Speaker 4: on like my back patio on.
Speaker 2: My parking spot.
Speaker 4: So I'd get out there and I'm like, yo, dude,
Speaker 4: quiet it down, which obviously I didn't quite realize that
Speaker 4: just makes him get more bummy about life. Go get
Speaker 4: some more bum friends. They'll all come out at your
Speaker 4: outside of the door two in the morning. That's that's
Speaker 4: what happened. So I literally had to chase these guys
Speaker 4: out with a gun, and that's what it boiled down to.
Speaker 4: You know, I just took my pistol out there one night.
Speaker 4: Never saw them again. But you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: I realized pretty quickly, like you can't. You can't just
Speaker 4: ask these bums or tell them to get the fuck
Speaker 4: out of here, you know what I mean, that's just
Speaker 4: gonna incite more bummery.
Speaker 2: You know, so I you know, I, you.
Speaker 4: Know, I quickly that was my form of my early
Speaker 4: introductions of the quote unquote city of life there in DC.
Speaker 4: But I used to frequent New York City a lot,
Speaker 4: and I quickly found out you don't if someone comes
Speaker 4: up to you on the street up there trying to
Speaker 4: pedal their wares.
Speaker 2: You just don't even give them the time of day.
Speaker 4: Because dude, I had this guy follow me from Chinatown
Speaker 4: to Nick knows of these reference points at least Chinatown
Speaker 4: to to north of Houston Street or Houston, depending on
Speaker 4: where you're from. And that was a solid eight or
Speaker 4: ten blocks, right, Dude's trying to sell me an xtape
Speaker 4: the entire time, you know what I mean? After around
Speaker 4: block five or six, I thought I was gonna get
Speaker 4: stabbed and eventually around block eight or nine, we look, dude,
Speaker 4: if we're gonna go, let's just do this. I'm not
Speaker 4: You're not stabbing me, buddy, It's not happening, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. I don't want your mixtape. I don't
Speaker 4: want to get stabbed. You go that way, I'll go
Speaker 4: this way, you know what I mean. So when I
Speaker 4: saw that linebacker in front of com of Pizza, I'm like,
Speaker 4: this is not a good Nope, Nope, I'm just gonna
Speaker 4: keep cruising. Linebacker and addressed in front of a dental operation.
Speaker 2: No, thank you. Yo.
Speaker 6: I have a feeling if anything's going on in there,
Speaker 6: I haven't feeling them.
Speaker 1: It's just a theory at the bar has something to
Speaker 1: do with it.
Speaker 4: Well, here's an here's the theory I had, And maybe
Speaker 4: you can tell me if this makes any sense to you.
Speaker 6: Because that was the only area that looks sketchy and
Speaker 6: like even the people behind there actually looked very different
Speaker 6: than everybody else working there, and.
Speaker 1: There was little stickers. There was a sticker. It's just you
Speaker 1: could tell like that.
Speaker 6: I just have a feeling that person kind of likely
Speaker 6: was the eyes and ears of that.
Speaker 1: Whole social the whole section is that area of that
Speaker 1: the lookout. I just think they're they're involved with whatever.
Speaker 1: It's hard to explain.
Speaker 6: I think if people were there and saw what I saw,
Speaker 6: I would say that was the one fishy thing when
Speaker 6: I was like, because that is like right before you
Speaker 6: get to the back, you know, there's there's the eating area,
Speaker 6: then there's the bar, and then you go on the back.
Speaker 6: Because I actually went I went back there, went in
Speaker 6: there and actually threw stickers up of the occult rejects
Speaker 6: in the bathroom. So I saw what it looks like.
Speaker 4: I like your heads at friend, I wasn't even considering
Speaker 4: mobile lookout with a tranny linebacker on a scooter, but
Speaker 4: that's probably.
Speaker 1: Oh, I I don't even know about that. But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying. I'm just say like I I just feel
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 6: I don't know, like they're I don't know, just my opinion,
Speaker 6: because I do. I do think that they're also involved
Speaker 6: with the bands that are coming there and playing there.
Speaker 2: Oh that dude, that whole blocks is sketchy place, dude.
Speaker 4: And when you have a band called sex Stains making
Speaker 4: jokes about pedophilia with a transgendered cross dressing mask wearing
Speaker 4: individual as the lead singer who is in a tenured
Speaker 4: professor of music at George Washington University there in DC.
Speaker 2: Well, I got a lot of questions, Yeah, a lot
Speaker 2: of questions.
Speaker 4: Heavy breathing, there we go. That's another one I believe
Speaker 4: was there. Yeah, that whole block suspect, dude, that whole
Speaker 4: block suspect. And again it's right by that American University
Speaker 4: where that Project Camelot was run out of with their
Speaker 4: special operations office there Why America is the Catholic university
Speaker 4: there right by Comt Pizza literally like right by It's
Speaker 4: like it's a quarter mile away the campus. It's not
Speaker 4: it's not for it all. Wow, very odd environment with
Speaker 4: that whole situation, you know, obviously never really been flushed out.
Speaker 4: But one of the thoughts I had early on was
Speaker 4: there's no OTO places anywhere around DC, right like meeting houses,
Speaker 4: lodge as, et cetera.
Speaker 6: Right, I don't know, because you remember, and I swear
Speaker 6: not making this up. Remember I told you I ran
Speaker 6: into that store District ninety three and I was like, nah,
Speaker 6: I can't be like associated with the OTO.
Speaker 1: And I walked in there.
Speaker 2: You did tell me about this, Please please explain.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I walked in and I'm like, looking at it,
Speaker 6: I'm like nah, and I'm like I'm like, should I
Speaker 6: just go in?
Speaker 1: I'm like fucking what the fuck? Who guess?
Speaker 6: And I'm like looking at it, I can't even really
Speaker 6: tell what the hell it was. I think it was
Speaker 6: a weed vape store, but I didn't even know it was.
Speaker 6: I couldn't tell. And I walked in, but it did
Speaker 6: smell like weed too. So I walked in and it
Speaker 6: was just like one black dude standing behind the counter
Speaker 6: and he's like, oh, what's going on? I was like,
Speaker 6: I was just checking out the store and he's like
Speaker 6: look at me. He's like any you're looking for anything
Speaker 6: in particular? And then like two other dudes come from
Speaker 6: the back and I'm like, yo, you need some help?
Speaker 1: Something to low to that.
Speaker 6: It was something to that, yeah to that, not like that,
Speaker 6: but it was more of like you know, what's going on?
Speaker 1: Guy? And I'm standing there and like I'm like, weird suckers?
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, and like and like you know,
Speaker 6: in a split second, your mind can go through so
Speaker 6: many things, and I'm like standing there thinking, I'm like
Speaker 6: I don't actually have like an actual reason why I'm
Speaker 6: in here unless I come out and kind of say
Speaker 6: the truth, which could be a little fucking weird. But
Speaker 6: I mean they already think I'm probably weird, so what's
Speaker 6: the difference. Now Now they'll just think I'm a crazy
Speaker 6: white boy and they'll probably be like, just let him
Speaker 6: leave him alone.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So I was like, I was like, oh, I saw
Speaker 6: I said, I saw you sign and it says, you know,
Speaker 6: district ninety three. And then I put out my arm
Speaker 6: and showed on my Unicrystal Extagram and I showed him that.
Speaker 2: And they're like, oh ninety three brother, Oh they recognized that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I was like, oh shit, okay. I was like all right,
Speaker 6: I was like ninety three ye yeah yeah, And then
Speaker 6: I was like, uh, I was like yeah, I was
Speaker 6: like just just wondering something.
Speaker 1: I forgot what I said, dude. It was so weird
Speaker 1: that I was like all right, and I turned around
Speaker 1: and walked out.
Speaker 2: And caught you off guard.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know where to go from
Speaker 1: this now. I wasn't thinking this far.
Speaker 4: Is this is this the establishment you're referring to? Yeah, oh,
Speaker 4: it's in the U Street corridor. Okay, I know we're
Speaker 4: sad right by Ben's Chili.
Speaker 1: It was in like a decent area that I thought.
Speaker 4: You know, it's it's gotten a lot better. It's gotten
Speaker 4: a lot better. Back when I lived there, it was okay,
Speaker 4: very stabby. You want to go there after nine o'clock
Speaker 4: at night. I had a couple of weird encounters in
Speaker 4: that region.
Speaker 6: I think I was in that area because I went
Speaker 6: to like a I got like coffee somewhere, I think,
Speaker 6: and I happened to take me over there.
Speaker 4: Chili bowls are pretty from this kind of local establishment,
Speaker 4: you know there it's a you know, if you're in
Speaker 4: the area to go get creeped out of a district
Speaker 4: ninety three, you know, check out some Ben's Chili bowl.
Speaker 2: This is not a paid advertisement. But so what I
Speaker 2: was thinking with this situation.
Speaker 4: Was this is a very occult looking sign, right, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Yeah, a moon on the stars.
Speaker 4: So this was a sign that put up was put
Speaker 4: up by Alaphantis. Right, So I played in a beer
Speaker 4: pong tournament here serraca October of two thousand and six,
Speaker 4: and it was right before he bought the place. Made
Speaker 4: a different sign. So when he did take ownership of
Speaker 4: this place I think was in two thousand and seven March.
Speaker 4: You know, he he did put up the sign, so
Speaker 4: and it does seem to have I don't know. Again,
Speaker 4: I don't know what the meeting of this would be,
Speaker 4: but it like for the way I view it, my
Speaker 4: you know, very rudimentary understanding of the occult is this
Speaker 4: is like a hey, guys, if you want to come
Speaker 4: to Thalma business, maybe you come over here kind of sign, right,
Speaker 4: I don't you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm not saying.
Speaker 4: Talma because of the Podesta brothers that he's own or
Speaker 4: twined with are clearly Telemites, right, Why their own admission
Speaker 4: in writings and statements?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I would I would think they have an
Speaker 6: affinity for Thalma.
Speaker 4: Well, the and the Podesta email releases, they would, Yeah,
Speaker 4: t ALEAMC favor exactly, yes, sir. So you can only
Speaker 4: ask that question if you understand the context of that.
Speaker 4: You know that the LIEMC favor was a meeting with
Speaker 4: Barack Obama one on one because Podesta was the senior
Speaker 4: advisor to Obama, like he was a senior advisor to Clinton.
Speaker 4: You senior advisor to Hillary Clinton, one of the top
Speaker 4: advisors behind the scenes to Biden, you want to talk
Speaker 4: about dark dark zith lords, you're talking John Podesta friend.
Speaker 4: So this was like maybe something I thought, maybe this
Speaker 4: was some sort of like, hey, we'll put up this
Speaker 4: very again. These symbols might mean something within their faction,
Speaker 4: of the whatever cult they're part of. But the Podestas
Speaker 4: did a lot of activities here. Birthday parties, meetings, democratic
Speaker 4: fundraisers all went down inside this pizza shop. Courtesy of
Speaker 4: John and Tony Podesta.
Speaker 6: Oh you always see those pictures at Tucker in there
Speaker 6: with with people.
Speaker 4: Did you ever see Jake Taverer from CNN call this
Speaker 4: his favorite fucking place, his favorite favorite family restaurant.
Speaker 6: I know somebody has said that pizza his favorite date
Speaker 6: night restaurant with his wife when they don't have the kids.
Speaker 4: Bucks Camping and Fishing, you're Hunting and Fishing next door,
Speaker 4: which shares the wall here with Comet and is owned
Speaker 4: by Aliphantis. And when everyone claims that Common Pizza didn't
Speaker 4: have a base basement, well that's cause, uh it does.
Speaker 2: But the access to the basement you have to go
Speaker 2: through the.
Speaker 4: Neighboring restaurant, Bucks camp Hunting and Fish it's owned by
Speaker 4: Elaphantis has access to the basement that goes underneath the
Speaker 4: common pizza side, and that's where you see that that
Speaker 4: one sex Stanes band playing the music down there in
Speaker 4: that one video that has long been you you know
Speaker 4: send you know memory hold right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I should have checked that out one next.
Speaker 2: Door Yeah dude, Yeah, he owns that spot too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, mister one of the top fifty most powerful men
Speaker 4: in DC, according to you know, some dumbass to survey.
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on this being some sort of
Speaker 4: thlemic meeting house?
Speaker 6: Could be a meetinghouse for all sorts of stuff, but yeah,
Speaker 6: it could be that. I do think it's definitely a
Speaker 6: spot where people probably go and talk about things that
Speaker 6: they don't want other people listening about.
Speaker 2: Do you suspect that's what these assembles are on there for.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that actually, Or is.
Speaker 2: It simply because they chose the name Comet?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Uh, if anything, I don't know. I could look
Speaker 1: up see what it matches, if anything, the.
Speaker 6: Star and the cress And unfortunately I would probably think
Speaker 6: more of a shriner as shiner as.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, what do you got there? What are you
Speaker 2: thinking there?
Speaker 6: I don't know, but oh, the one weird thing was
Speaker 6: is that see that? Wow, that's weird that I did
Speaker 6: bring that up. It could mean nothing, but we did
Speaker 6: show on the Occult Rejects once. Oh fuck it might
Speaker 6: it might only be on bit shoot. I don't know
Speaker 6: if we were covering this place or something or quasi
Speaker 6: cootal somehow we uh might have been No, I'm sorry,
Speaker 6: the Shriners. Might have been the Shriners, or it could
Speaker 6: have been. When we were talking about Alphantis, we did
Speaker 6: show like part of like a music video that was
Speaker 6: filmed in there, and there was somebody constantly like with
Speaker 6: the Shiner hat on or was on a table, and
Speaker 6: we were pointing that out that we thought it was
Speaker 6: interesting how Schriner had kept popping up in like a
Speaker 6: music video that was done outside that place. Now, again
Speaker 6: that's another band. Maybe it's not so much associated with that,
Speaker 6: but I just found it weird, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 6: was that a Shriner band that was playing inside that
Speaker 6: place when they filmed the video?
Speaker 2: I mean, that's probably a thing though.
Speaker 6: Right then then what I'm getting at is like, well,
Speaker 6: why is that like is that because you're part of
Speaker 6: the club.
Speaker 5: You know them, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: That's why they're getting hired, right, because they're part of
Speaker 4: the club. Right, That's why Tom DeLong puts the Masonic
Speaker 4: logo on his guitar, right, See, you know the way,
Speaker 4: you know what.
Speaker 1: I would know another way.
Speaker 6: I would even say, I think podesta Is has the
Speaker 6: Lima connections is going through Lavenda Is because Lavenda I
Speaker 6: gotta get this thing. I gotta get it and like
Speaker 6: save this link somewhere so every time I bring it up,
Speaker 6: I can like.
Speaker 1: Drop it in the chat or whatever.
Speaker 6: But there is a video where it was like something
Speaker 6: almost like the History Channel doing some like covering secret societies,
Speaker 6: and they get to like the oto and they had
Speaker 6: James Wasserman was like letting them come in and like
Speaker 6: watching the invocation of Horace or or was Israefel but
Speaker 6: they said it was horse something. They were doing something
Speaker 6: there and they show everybody. I think it might have
Speaker 6: been I can't remember the fuck. I can't remember the
Speaker 6: exact lodge, but it was like specific people from a
Speaker 6: lodge and you could see them walking in because I've
Speaker 6: even seen them on their own lodge YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: Same fucking people.
Speaker 6: Walking in and like within that line of people, fucking
Speaker 6: Peter Leavenda walks right by.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, well, look at that Peter Lavender.
Speaker 6: I'm just fucking out of Noway two second cameo appearance
Speaker 6: in this OTO event, Like, what are you doing there?
Speaker 1: Guy?
Speaker 2: Austin was a major figure in the oto.
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, he started the lodge that I went to.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Podesta and Lavenda go back to the late seventies together.
Speaker 2: He used to He used to used to.
Speaker 6: He used to troll motherfuckers, used to take pictures of
Speaker 6: his handgun on his nightstand and just posted on social media.
Speaker 1: It would trigger. He would trigger the fuck out of thulomites. Interesting, Oh,
Speaker 1: he would, he would. He was near near the end.
Speaker 1: He was trolling motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: He died in November twenty twenty. Did the calf cough
Speaker 2: get Um, I.
Speaker 1: Don't remember, might have been cancered. I can't remember the cough. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think it was that. No, Nope, so uh yeah.
Speaker 4: I think minunderstanding is Lavenda and Podesta both worked at
Speaker 4: the same computer software company. That computer software company that
Speaker 4: Lavenda was working for when he infiltrated that Nazi encampment.
Speaker 4: In Chili, Colonia dignidod right with the name of the place,
Speaker 4: I don't know, Colony of Dignity. He was a Nazi
Speaker 4: operation there where they're running kill squads out of there.
Speaker 4: And Lavende is like twenty year old. He's like, oh,
Speaker 4: I just wandered into place. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Yo? Oh you know?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 1: Fuck you? We just went back. Yeah. I was gonna
Speaker 1: ask you to go back. You don't have to. I
Speaker 1: just saw it on the screen real quick.
Speaker 6: Even with Wasserman, he worked for Wiser Books. Who do
Speaker 6: you think was pumping out fucking Lavenza's crap as Simon
Speaker 6: and Acronomicon, Right, it was Wassaman for him.
Speaker 1: It's all a bunch of bullshit. It's all fell muck.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't realize. That's okay, that's who did.
Speaker 2: That's who did the necronomic on huh. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And Wasserman works for the man he had leven Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he put putt pump Lavenda ship out through that
Speaker 6: fucking book company.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: The plot thickensh Man, the Slavenda guy. I tell you
Speaker 2: the plot thickens.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, he has done good work.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Nick I'm sorry what we're saying.
Speaker 6: I said, he has put out I think in the
Speaker 6: in the past some good work. But unfortunately, I'm just
Speaker 6: saying like he's he's connected with these people.
Speaker 2: Oh sure, I like some of his work. Don't get
Speaker 2: me wrong, take Away the Green of Salt. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean?
Speaker 4: When he blames the entire Sinister Forces series on the Republicans,
Speaker 4: you gotta you gotta be like, what the fuck did
Speaker 4: you just do to me, your buddy? You took a
Speaker 4: fucking Shamalan twist the ball Shamel with a twist to
Speaker 4: have you all read that one. Volume one and volume
Speaker 4: two were fantastic, and then you get to volume three
Speaker 4: and suddenly the Republicans.
Speaker 2: Then I'm like, wait a second here, Bud, what did
Speaker 2: you just do? What?
Speaker 4: What kind of mind fuck is this? Don't get me wrong,
Speaker 4: I'm not a Republican or Democrat. In fact, I've never voted. Well,
Speaker 4: I voted one time under under just under duress speaking
Speaker 4: that shouldn't that shouldn't you shoudn't have to do that.
Speaker 4: But when I say under dress, it was I had
Speaker 4: I was used an excuse to go voting to get
Speaker 4: out of uh my entire unit got popped for a
Speaker 4: piss tess when I was an active duty and they
Speaker 4: were making us doing some ass nine ship. They woke
Speaker 4: me up the middle of night, maybe come in sit
Speaker 4: in the conference room with like, you know, t one
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty hundred people, And I'm like, what is
Speaker 4: going on around here?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm not doing this? So and I
Speaker 2: told I told my lieutenant. I'm like, I got to go.
Speaker 2: I gotta get the fuck out of here, buddy.
Speaker 4: He's like, You're not leaving anywhere till everyone pisses in
Speaker 4: this room like I do. I don't know what's going
Speaker 4: on in life, but I'm not living by these rules.
Speaker 4: It's voting day, friend, I got on an American I
Speaker 4: gotta go vote. So I voted in the two thousand
Speaker 4: and four action for George Bush. But that was again
Speaker 4: under dress. Because you voted. He's like, You're gonna be
Speaker 4: in a lot of fucking trouble. I'm like, all right, buddy,
Speaker 4: let's let's take it down some notches underrest. He was serious, dude.
Speaker 4: This dude had so much beef with me. Dude, he
Speaker 4: essentially threw in his career. About six months after this
Speaker 4: incident and a beef with me where he, uh he
Speaker 4: overstepped some boundaries and got real physically violent with me
Speaker 4: on duty one night, so which I I obviously responded
Speaker 4: in kind, and uh somehow he got he got the
Speaker 4: bulk of the he got thrown out the military. I
Speaker 4: mean he was at he was, you know, he was.
Speaker 4: He just made captain. They're like, oh, you're out of here, buddy.
Speaker 4: So but uh so he was real serious, what I'm
Speaker 4: getting I was a real serious man. I took him
Speaker 4: for his word. He was serious when he said that
Speaker 4: I better bring him a fucking receipt him. All right,
Speaker 4: let's take it down some notches. I'll I'll bring you receipt.
Speaker 4: I'm just not sitting in the same room anymore. But
Speaker 4: you know so it's not a political thing for me
Speaker 4: with Lavenda, but he does he hucklebucks? You dude, have
Speaker 4: you read Sinister Forces?
Speaker 2: BT? Did you feel hucklebucked?
Speaker 5: I didn't get to the third one yet, but now
Speaker 5: I have to well, m night, Shyamalan.
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed his Mormon book was good too. I
Speaker 2: really enjoyed his work.
Speaker 4: But come on, man, Republicans, did.
Speaker 1: You know what I even for me.
Speaker 6: I think for me, I am very intrigued as an
Speaker 6: occult this by cults and certain things like that. And
Speaker 6: I think when I do want to cover something and
Speaker 6: get involved in something, I do do a decent job
Speaker 6: nine and a half as job. So again, like him,
Speaker 6: like I hear certain things. I see some people that
Speaker 6: I do a question, they are very much into the
Speaker 6: same stuff that I and other occult this would be
Speaker 6: into researching.
Speaker 5: Right, So right.
Speaker 1: Would be what would be easy stuff to present to
Speaker 1: talk about? You know say that easy?
Speaker 4: But well, well, gentlemen, I I appreciate your time. I
Speaker 4: feel like we should probablyring us to a close. Can
Speaker 4: I turn it over to to bet first year Nick
Speaker 4: for some closing comments, statements or any plugs.
Speaker 2: You got there? Sir? Bt? What what do you would?
Speaker 2: I appreciate you joining us tonight for Fridays.
Speaker 5: Thank you for coming. Let me come back on the
Speaker 5: on the Fridays and at it up.
Speaker 2: With you guys.
Speaker 5: It's a good way to spend it Friday evening.
Speaker 2: I agree, sir, appreciate your time in conversation.
Speaker 1: Thanks you.
Speaker 2: What's what's on the horizon for you? Again?
Speaker 4: Any additional commentary or plugs for you on the Truth
Speaker 4: and Chatout podcast. I got your links and the description
Speaker 4: already for you.
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, I mean I dropped. I dropped episode fifty
Speaker 5: three into the comments here. That's the one where we
Speaker 5: talk about Baphomette with doctor other Lynn Nice. So it
Speaker 5: was a good episode. So people can listen to that
Speaker 5: and listen to what's going on there and stuff coming
Speaker 5: up in the future. Yeah, I'm working on a couple
Speaker 5: of episodes that'll be dropping I do. I am a Catholic,
Speaker 5: so I do drop everyone's while I interview catholic, So
Speaker 5: I do drop stuff that we're talking about over there,
Speaker 5: and occasionally I drop stuff that our conspiracy related. I'm
Speaker 5: kind of all over the board a little bit at
Speaker 5: the moment, So I've got some great stuff coming.
Speaker 2: Do you do cryptids over there? I don't recall. Do
Speaker 2: you doing a lot of cryptos stuff over there?
Speaker 5: I done an episode about Bigfoot with a guy someone, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I haven't talked of many other people about him. I
Speaker 5: am trying to find some there's a there's a local
Speaker 5: author here in Oregon that I do want to talk to.
Speaker 4: Nick and I were gonna have a future Bigfoot conversation.
Speaker 4: If you're a pro big footer. You may want to
Speaker 4: join us in that because I'm an anti big footer myself.
Speaker 4: I think it's all psychological operation by the CIA, and
Speaker 4: I have a strong circumstantial argument to make to make
Speaker 4: behind it.
Speaker 5: What we call it big foot not big feet, you know,
Speaker 5: I mean big feet. Is he just got one big foot?
Speaker 5: Or is he like, are we talking about something else
Speaker 5: that's big? I don't, I don't understand.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I hope he's got more than one eyes a cyclops bigfoot.
Speaker 4: He be in a lot of trouble. One eyed, one
Speaker 4: horned people eater can get him on some disability dude,
Speaker 4: Joe Biden approved disabilities.
Speaker 5: It's been on so security.
Speaker 1: You should have been on the show last night.
Speaker 6: Man, you could have been some opposition for that bigfoot
Speaker 6: to it me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, O, yeah, I'm not a big big footer.
Speaker 1: I'm I do I do find that. I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know. Here in Oregon, it seems bigfoots the
Speaker 5: state cryptid. But but you know, people have.
Speaker 1: You know, moth Man, And I was going to ask
Speaker 1: Grismothman for that. That's like a encryptid for that area.
Speaker 5: Where is that over here now? That's where is that?
Speaker 2: God Virginia friend?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. Where was that?
Speaker 6: I know, that's like a point.
Speaker 5: Pleasant Pleasant, West Virginia.
Speaker 6: There was a whole excuse for that hellier bullshit sigh
Speaker 6: up thing too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good call.
Speaker 6: As you know how you know because the guy from
Speaker 6: the O T O isn't it Alan Greenfield?
Speaker 2: Oh dude, Alan Greensburg and whatever his name is Greenfield?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Then and then after and then after that is when
Speaker 6: all the balloons starts showing up.
Speaker 2: And they's like going on typical, typical.
Speaker 1: And the pan they keep going on about pan at
Speaker 1: the end.
Speaker 6: Crowley was big on pan in his INEXH.
Speaker 4: And they matched together. They Andrew Cole and UFOs too
Speaker 4: write in little green goblins, Little fucking green goblins.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 6: You know, I, like so many people I over the
Speaker 6: OTO watched that ship during COVID.
Speaker 4: Oh dude, that's Cincinnati, dude. Now are your people They
Speaker 4: run some sort of paranormal traveling road show, But I
Speaker 4: believe they they operate all their operations out of Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: Wonder if they bought a place on a mound. That's
Speaker 4: interesting now I think about it. I know they're on
Speaker 4: the west side that is has more mount heavy over there.
Speaker 4: You're Harrison, Ohio, like William Henry Harrison. He's buried on
Speaker 4: a mound there Society in Cincinnati. Guy, Well bt uh.
Speaker 4: Maybe we'll talk some big Foots in the future. I
Speaker 4: appreciate your time, sir and the discussions as always. I
Speaker 4: know I enjoyed my last conversation with you, Untruth and Shadow. Yeah,
Speaker 4: talking about the process.
Speaker 2: Good times.
Speaker 5: Yeah, big episode, lots of downloads.
Speaker 4: Nice big foot episode if you will, big big Feet
Speaker 4: nixt sir. I appreciate your time as always. Here on
Speaker 4: a Friday is always look forward to it, sir.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was a good one.
Speaker 4: What do you got working on every I know we
Speaker 4: got a Tuesday World conversation with Juliat Cosmic Peach coming
Speaker 4: up on Monday, right.
Speaker 6: Oh, that's just Monday awesome. For some reason, I was
Speaker 6: thinking ship Okay, I have a written down so that wasn't.
Speaker 1: A project, but I just kept Actually.
Speaker 2: Technically Juli and I are the ones that booked it,
Speaker 2: were you know.
Speaker 1: They just decided to include me. It was nice what.
Speaker 4: It spawned from a conversation you had us Holiday cult rejects.
Speaker 4: Last week on the Cold Elvis, which I highly recommend
Speaker 4: folks check that out. That was a fucking awesome conversation.
Speaker 1: It's an operation g c D slash. Coult rejects a mashout. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, we got that.
Speaker 6: You know what, you know, we got dropping this weekend
Speaker 6: for the people that are listening now that haven't jumped
Speaker 6: off us on Me and JJ were on Strange saw
Speaker 6: a slash part of my American kind of podcast. We
Speaker 6: got that actually time dropped in that audio on only
Speaker 6: audio though it's not gonna be on video.
Speaker 1: Be the audio for.
Speaker 6: That tomorrow and then we do have you're in there
Speaker 6: for the epic of with Prometheus lens.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, that was biblical Bigfoot. I guess we
Speaker 4: saw him and we saw him justin the chats and
Speaker 4: that earlier.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, so that was what bigfoot there again?
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yeah, I like his. I like his.
Speaker 4: He brings some new big foot stuff to the table,
Speaker 4: at least whether whether or not Bigfoot is real or not.
Speaker 4: He brings up more mythical I'm sorry, more mystical understanding,
Speaker 4: which I'm more inclined to believe.
Speaker 2: That than I am. Flesh and blood bigfoot stuff.
Speaker 6: He definitely was onto something he had made, the ship
Speaker 6: he was talking about and the things he was bringing.
Speaker 2: Up ideas on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, definitely something right.
Speaker 2: It's not mutually exclusive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yes, right yeah.
Speaker 2: But killers in the Philippines.
Speaker 4: And also, oh boy, your boy lands there, Edward Lansdale.
Speaker 2: You did all you did some deep dives into Lansdale.
Speaker 4: So there could be actual vampires murking folks over there,
Speaker 4: and there was also a Lansdale making the villagers think
Speaker 4: it was vampires.
Speaker 2: It could be both.
Speaker 6: Ye, where on the where on the street? Is that
Speaker 6: a vampire? Is what got Lansdale?
Speaker 1: Actually?
Speaker 2: Is that what got them?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: That's where was Wesley Snipes when it happened.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was down at he was down at the
Speaker 6: Elliot Coco col Hang it.
Speaker 4: Out, dude, but they remember they were they were murking
Speaker 4: folks down there on that mound.
Speaker 2: Remember we did a show on that.
Speaker 6: Shot d all right, thank you very much for a
Speaker 6: good show today. Man, guys had a great though.
Speaker 2: Thank I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it, and I appreciate the folks of the
Speaker 4: innerwebs is always uh Operation gc D Live on Wednesdays
Speaker 4: and then back again next Fridays here with Nick. But
Speaker 4: Wednesdays I got Jonathan Mitchell coming back on talking more
Speaker 4: processed church, son of Sam, Westchester County Business, New York City,
Speaker 4: the Colt activity related to the Berkowitz situations, and also
Speaker 4: the following week operation GCD Live.
Speaker 2: Wednesday, we're gonna be talking in a cult and or
Speaker 2: esoteric review of.
Speaker 4: The nineteen eighty six classic The Golden Child starring Eddie
Speaker 4: Murphy and that creepy ginger fella.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that guy's acting anything else since then.
Speaker 4: Now I think about it, I can picture him in one
Speaker 4: other film that is one of the creepiest looking dudes
Speaker 4: they've ever cast, Like super creepy looking dude. And he's ginger,
Speaker 4: so you know he's got no soul.
Speaker 1: I'm happy talking about the big guy, right, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm.
Speaker 4: Talking about this the devil dude, the demon fella.
Speaker 2: You're right, yeah, he got he's creepy dude. He's creepy dude.
Speaker 2: And they got Victor Wong in there, dude, Victor wonging
Speaker 2: it up. Dude, he was he killed it in the
Speaker 2: Golden Child, and he.
Speaker 4: Killed it the same year. Dude, he won that year
Speaker 4: Dude Hollywood for at least for Asian actors over the
Speaker 4: age of sixty. He started also in Big Trouble, Little China,
Speaker 4: which we did in the Cold Esoteric review. With that
Speaker 4: with Jen the Ninja, who will also be joining us
Speaker 4: for the Golden Child reviews, so recommend folks check that
Speaker 4: out for sure, and if if jents don't have any
Speaker 4: other comments, we'll end it there.
Speaker 1: I'm good, Thank you.