Speaker 1: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
Speaker 1: ignition with the aw fat hub podcast team. This is
Speaker 1: Kelson and well, you know what. Before we start, I
Speaker 1: wanted to give a shout out to one of our
Speaker 1: aw fat hub pot subreddit members. Clement Fandango said that
Speaker 1: he's been listening to our podcast and express how much
Speaker 1: he enjoyed it, and he also encouraged me to continue
Speaker 1: keeping What did he call you, guys, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: remember what he called you are here. It is keep
Speaker 1: those hooligans in line. So nat, MK, you heard it
Speaker 1: from the Boss, Clement Fandango. I've got to keep you
Speaker 1: in line tonight. So don't mess up. Don't make me
Speaker 1: take out my uh my black baseball bat. I guess
Speaker 1: that's a wrestling thing. I guess the black baseball bat.
Speaker 1: But anyway, let's get started. And MK brought up a
Speaker 1: pretty cool topic and I thought it would be fun
Speaker 1: to discuss because and I'd like to hear what you
Speaker 1: guys think about it. Stings son Steven after Revolution and
Speaker 1: his father's retirement match, which he participated in as wasn't
Speaker 1: he the Wolfpack Sting version?
Speaker 2: I can't remember.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think he was. Anyway, he expressed
Speaker 1: interest in pursuing professional wrestling, and I believe MK said
Speaker 1: who was training him?
Speaker 2: I believe it's Ed was there Derby and FTR.
Speaker 1: And by Ed you mean Adam Copland of course, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: you hooligan. I had to go there. I just gonna
Speaker 1: call you guys hooligans every for no reason. You could
Speaker 1: just say, you know, Tellson is the greatest guy ever,
Speaker 1: and I'll be like you ooligan anyway. So it's Adam Copeland,
Speaker 1: Brian Danielson, you said, and.
Speaker 2: FTR, No, it's uh, it's Adam Copeland, FTR and Darby
Speaker 2: Allen Darby Allen.
Speaker 1: Yes. So first question I have about this is when
Speaker 1: he does and if he does actually start wrestling. To me,
Speaker 1: it seems like it would be well, let me start
Speaker 1: when he gets to a W. When he starts wrestling
Speaker 1: in a W it seems to me like it would
Speaker 1: be logical to put him with Darby Allen. Would you
Speaker 1: guys agree? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think it'd be good just to I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, it depends how good he is if he
Speaker 2: can hang with Darby Allen. Uh, everybody needs a mentor
Speaker 2: but we'll see. I don't know, ye, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Everybody aw is getting in the habit
Speaker 3: of pairing everyone up. I would like people just to
Speaker 3: be all by themselves for a while. So maybe he
Speaker 3: can come in and stand on his own and you know,
Speaker 3: just see what he's got going by himself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but by that token though, by you know, when
Speaker 1: you look at it, he's he's not gonna have any
Speaker 1: matches to speak of under his belt. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: coming in blind, you know what I mean. So you
Speaker 1: want to put him probably with somebody that he can
Speaker 1: feed off of, you know, learn the ropes under tutelage,
Speaker 1: a mentor. I mean, you saw great that work from
Speaker 1: Maria May with Tony Storm. She's the world champion.
Speaker 3: Now that's true, and it works for I can't think
Speaker 3: of her name. It's it's Blanking who hangs out with
Speaker 3: the Mercedes.
Speaker 1: Harley no dog.
Speaker 4: Camille, Camille, thank you, that's not That's not the same thing,
Speaker 4: though kill was. Camille was the end of NWA Women's
Speaker 4: champion for well over a year. She held the title
Speaker 4: for like four hundred and forty five days or something
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 1: So we're talking.
Speaker 3: About now, she's just kind of hanging out.
Speaker 1: She's biting her time. Look, we know that, we know
Speaker 1: that Tony Khan is the is the king of the
Speaker 1: slow burn. We knew that Baraay was going to turn
Speaker 1: on Tony Storm. We knew that, but it took forever.
Speaker 1: That's been going on since November of last year, and
Speaker 1: it just happened in August.
Speaker 3: True, like I can't take it anymore with Christian Cage
Speaker 3: and Luchisaurus, I absolutely cannot.
Speaker 1: So, right, So my point is, my point is is
Speaker 1: that Tony Kahan with stinks son Steven would probably just
Speaker 1: have him muddle around doing nothing for a long time.
Speaker 1: So I think the best thing to do is to
Speaker 1: bring him in doing something and learning on the fly
Speaker 1: as he goes. We've had several wrestlers at aw do
Speaker 1: that Anna Jay comes to mind, Julia Hart comes to mind,
Speaker 1: and they did progress. And of course it's going to
Speaker 1: be a little bit more difficult for the women to
Speaker 1: progress because women just don't get as much time as
Speaker 1: the men do. At least they didn't. They are starting
Speaker 1: to get quite a bit of time now. But anyway,
Speaker 1: another question I had for you is, well, here's my
Speaker 1: thought process maybe you do put him on the Indies,
Speaker 1: but you don't have him go unmasked at the Indies
Speaker 1: because people will look at him and say because they
Speaker 1: he looks just like his father. People will look at
Speaker 1: him and say, that's Sting's son, that's baby Sting. But
Speaker 1: you also don't go put him on in the Indies
Speaker 1: with Maybe you don't put him in a Sting gear
Speaker 1: and face paint. Maybe you make him a masked wrestler,
Speaker 1: you know, a brawling masked wrestler. That way, people don't
Speaker 1: know who he is per se, at least the casuals won't,
Speaker 1: and he can get his feet wet with a few
Speaker 1: matches in the Indies or even on dark before Collision
Speaker 1: and before Dynamite they have dark matches. They can put
Speaker 1: him on that and then introduce him. But here's the question, Yeah,
Speaker 1: will he be, for lack of better terms, baby Sting
Speaker 1: when he comes out? I mean, would you be up
Speaker 1: for that, like not a not a replacement Sting or
Speaker 1: not even a news Sting, but a because he is
Speaker 1: Sting's son, come right out and say I am Sting son,
Speaker 1: and my father wants me to come out and have
Speaker 1: Darby's back because he's not wrestling anymore and he wants
Speaker 1: me to do this, So I'm gonna try. You know,
Speaker 1: would you guys be for that or is there something
Speaker 1: else that you could see Baby Sting doing.
Speaker 2: You know, it's hard because there's a lot of legacy
Speaker 2: wrestlers who have crashed and burned, and some have went
Speaker 2: on to other companies and still crashed and burned, you know,
Speaker 2: So it's hard to get out of shadows. Our Anderson's
Speaker 2: son never made it big. He has big shoes to fill.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I think he will be better
Speaker 2: off working with Creative Pro, which is the same people
Speaker 2: who who who who brought us MJF and stat Lander
Speaker 2: and h Max Cast and stuff, and make him work
Speaker 2: his own character and then come in and then be
Speaker 2: totally different and find himself and then work with whoever
Speaker 2: he wants to. But I just fear for wrestlers who
Speaker 2: are legacy wrestlers at this point because we haven't proven
Speaker 2: that we can make big stars out of them yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when you talk about like well that,
Speaker 1: do you have any opinions on this? Because I do
Speaker 1: want to kind of touch on legacy wrestlers because that's
Speaker 1: a really good point.
Speaker 3: I would like to see him do his own thing
Speaker 3: and and be on his own. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 3: great that he's Sting's kid and all, but at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, he's his own person. He's got
Speaker 3: his own stuff going on, and I just like to
Speaker 3: see him come into his own And I have something
Speaker 3: else I want to talk about, so remind me to
Speaker 3: circle back to it. While we're talking about this. It
Speaker 3: kind of relates to this, So remind me to come
Speaker 3: back to my other point.
Speaker 1: But we just got to bring it up now.
Speaker 3: Oh you want to bring it up now? Okay, Okay,
Speaker 3: long long ago, when Shawn Michaels wrestled, he was young
Speaker 3: and he was good looking. And there are two wrestlers nowadays,
Speaker 3: in particular, every time I see them, I think that
Speaker 3: they are Seawan Michael's kids, and I wonder if anyone
Speaker 3: else sees it or thinks so it's.
Speaker 1: Just me, what are Who are the wrestlers?
Speaker 3: One is Alex Reynolds, okay, and the other one is
Speaker 3: I can't think of his name, but he's in grizzled,
Speaker 3: young young vet. He's that one.
Speaker 1: Guy, okay, one honest with you.
Speaker 2: And somebody else I can't remember the other person's name.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think those two they look so much like
Speaker 3: Shawn Michaels. I've thought that about Alex Reynolds for a
Speaker 3: long time, and since we've we've gotten the other guy
Speaker 3: on there, it's really come to the forefront of my mind, Like,
Speaker 3: I wonder if those are Shawn Michael's sons and they
Speaker 3: just don't say anything.
Speaker 1: They want to be known.
Speaker 3: As their own person away from him, you know, and
Speaker 3: do their own thing. And if those are his kids,
Speaker 3: look at them really close, and then looking at Michaels.
Speaker 2: They look like each other. I'll say that there's a
Speaker 2: joke going around that Grizzle Young Vets or the upgraded
Speaker 2: version of the Dark Orders Silver and Reynolds.
Speaker 3: Oh well, see, no they do. They look like each other,
Speaker 3: but they also look like Sean Michaels to me. And
Speaker 3: I don't know. I've thought that for a while about Reynolds,
Speaker 3: but now I'm thinking it about the other one too,
Speaker 3: and I don't know. So that leads to the thing
Speaker 3: about maybe being your own person. Nobody knows you know
Speaker 3: whose kid you are, and you're just in there having
Speaker 3: your own good time and not known as a legacy wrestler,
Speaker 3: so to speak.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, I mean, that's interesting, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Oh that's all. That was my only thought.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, well, mkay, you brought up legacy wrestlers,
Speaker 1: and there's not so much as do we even have
Speaker 1: legacy wrestlers in a.
Speaker 2: W anymore Pillman. Pilman went to n x T. I
Speaker 2: think arn't sign up was released, right, No, that'sn't I
Speaker 2: can think of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there are you know, some legacy legacy wrestlers
Speaker 1: that are either the sons and daughters of Erics.
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, the Von Erics and and Dustin rose kids.
Speaker 1: Oh that's true, Yeah, Dusty Roses kids. Yeah, at half
Speaker 1: half half brothers h Cody and Dustin. By the way
Speaker 1: I saw it, I was that's that. I happened upon
Speaker 1: a video of Dustin Rhodes as gold Dust on the
Speaker 1: Conan O'Brien show.
Speaker 3: I saw that I was in.
Speaker 1: That was priceless. He was so over the top, unbelievable.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but like in w W, You've got Gosh,
Speaker 1: You've got the rock, he's a legacy wrestler. Charlotte Flair
Speaker 1: bron Strowman I believe is a legacy wrestler.
Speaker 2: As well Ron Baker broad Breaker, Yeah, broad Breaker, I
Speaker 2: don't know, heartbreaker, heartbreak Kid and then.
Speaker 3: His name and then his name the.
Speaker 1: Kid Kid, thank you. That's saw Michaels get off, Shawn
Speaker 1: Michael's ass mad?
Speaker 3: Sorry?
Speaker 2: Is that his? Is that Bulldogs or Dynamite Kid's nephew
Speaker 2: was his son?
Speaker 1: Nephew? It's nephew.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So.
Speaker 1: I mean so there are some successful and some unsuccessful.
Speaker 1: I mean I know that I believe Kurt Headich's son
Speaker 1: tried to wrestle for a time and really didn't make it.
Speaker 2: No curse axel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean go ahead that.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but we can't forget Hook.
Speaker 1: You know, he's watching as much as much as we
Speaker 1: want to try, or at least I want to try. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because Hook. I mean I was looking at like some
Speaker 1: I guess historical videos from a w's past, and the
Speaker 1: Hook has he's been with a W for a long time.
Speaker 1: I mean he was with them at Daily's place. I
Speaker 1: mean he's with them. He's been there for four four
Speaker 1: going on five years now, and he hasn't progressed at all,
Speaker 1: not at all. I mean very minuscule jump. I mean
Speaker 1: he's Aw's Jade Cargill.
Speaker 2: H he's being pushed like it too. I don't you know,
Speaker 2: but that's a different.
Speaker 1: I don't know. But it's going to be interesting if
Speaker 1: Steve Bordon, Stephen Borden does come into a w what
Speaker 1: his place is going to be because you know that
Speaker 1: Tony Kahan is going to be loving him from Stephen Borden,
Speaker 1: you know, So it's going to be interesting when he
Speaker 1: gets there because he's gonna get pushed.
Speaker 2: Okay, was Garrett or him who did really good?
Speaker 1: It was Steven. He was the one though he I
Speaker 1: did just look it up. He was the wolf pack
Speaker 1: uh sting.
Speaker 2: He was the one yeah splashes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the one that got that just did the
Speaker 1: figure splash incredible height and did it from like covered
Speaker 1: half the ring or three quarters of the ring in
Speaker 1: the air doing it. And that was I did see
Speaker 1: an interview with him where that was the young Bucks
Speaker 1: that approached him and say just go for it. We
Speaker 1: could take it. Go for it, you know. Say what
Speaker 1: you want about the Young Bucks as their character, you know,
Speaker 1: but they seemed to work really hard, as do a
Speaker 1: lot of the veterans. Like we talked about this last week,
Speaker 1: Chris Jericho worked hard, putting putting kids over See, I'm
Speaker 1: punk did it to what he was here, I will
Speaker 1: admit that you've got Adam Copeland that's been working hard.
Speaker 1: MGF is still is still young, but he's working hard
Speaker 1: to put people over all the time. There are a
Speaker 1: lot of unselfish wrestlers in AW. FDR is another example.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of There are a lot of
Speaker 1: unselfish wrestlers in A and W, and I for one,
Speaker 1: really appreciate that because I'm the reason I started watching
Speaker 1: AW is because I wanted to see the young wrestlers
Speaker 1: grow from babysting to full on sting kind of thing.
Speaker 1: You know, That's what I'm saying. So that meant the
Speaker 1: law for me. So let's move on. There is you know,
Speaker 1: the aa W roster page used to have the list
Speaker 1: of all the champions, and then they had the roster
Speaker 1: for the men's division and the women's division, and underneath
Speaker 1: their profile pictures there were their singles record, their tag
Speaker 1: team record, whatnot, and then their overall record because the
Speaker 1: singles was for twenty twenty four, the current year, but
Speaker 1: then they had the overall record. Well, aw's now removed
Speaker 1: all the wins and lost records from their aw roster page.
Speaker 1: And that significant because I think the last time aw
Speaker 1: even came out with the rankings was in March, I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken, the end of March, maybe a beginning of April.
Speaker 1: So now and MRDJ two O four at the aw
Speaker 1: fhan hub subreddit and he posts them on a lot
Speaker 1: of other subredits as well, but originates from the aw
Speaker 1: phanom subreddit, and he doesn't posts them on our discord
Speaker 1: as well. He's been doing power rankings from his own
Speaker 1: formula mm HM for since aw fatub came into existence,
Speaker 1: probably before that, and that was out these win loss records.
Speaker 1: That's going to make it difficult on him. He's gonna
Speaker 1: probably have to keep keep up with it himself. That's
Speaker 1: gonna be pain in the neck. I hope he can
Speaker 1: do it, ah man. But yeah, yeah, what do you
Speaker 1: see any kind of significance that they took the win
Speaker 1: loss records off of the aw roster page.
Speaker 2: It feels like they are trying to get more sports
Speaker 2: entertainments than a sports oriented which which is what they
Speaker 2: started out with. I thought it made him different. I
Speaker 2: loved it, but for some reason, they keep on switching
Speaker 2: back and forth, and I think either they need to
Speaker 2: do it or not do it. But I prefer them
Speaker 2: to do it because it makes it feel like it matters,
Speaker 2: and not doing it just seems like just regular nothingness.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's fun to watch and see how
Speaker 2: much they've grown, how which they win and leave for
Speaker 2: me anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like the win loss record too. It's nice
Speaker 3: to see. I almost keeping track of everybody's wins and losses.
Speaker 3: So I'm miss I'm gonna miss seeing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm a statistics freak, so I like seeing statistics
Speaker 1: on anything. Yeah. M hm, you know, Uh, speaking of statistics.
Speaker 1: I hate bringing this up again, but I'm going to
Speaker 1: because I made a post at the aw phan Hub
Speaker 1: subret and I know that net is in my corner
Speaker 1: on this, at least with one person. Uh. The post
Speaker 1: that I made at the aw fanhob reddit was titled
Speaker 1: too much of a Good Thing with good in parentheses
Speaker 1: and basically what it said, Ah, I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: beating a dead horse sometimes. But here's a statistic. I
Speaker 1: just said. I like statistics. In the last ten hours
Speaker 1: of aw television matches with Roderick Strong, Orange Cassidy, and
Speaker 1: Kyle O'Reilly have accounted for one hour and forty minutes
Speaker 1: of that TV time. Now that's actual, that's the matches.
Speaker 1: That does not include their entrances, that does not include
Speaker 1: their promos, it doesn't include their match at all in
Speaker 1: or anything like that. It's just Dynamite and collision. They
Speaker 1: did not actually rate wrestle in that last ten hours
Speaker 1: on Rampage. And of course tomorrow night we are getting
Speaker 1: more often, we're getting will Osprey, Ile O'Reilly and Orange
Speaker 1: Cassidy against the AW Tag Team, Rios Champions Pack Audio
Speaker 1: Coast and whe were you to And I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: honest with you, I just said that statistic I gave
Speaker 1: you was from the last ten hours of aw television. Okay,
Speaker 1: this has been going on since May. Look it up.
Speaker 1: This has been going on since May where Roderick Strong,
Speaker 1: Orange Cassidy, Kyle O'Reilly, you can't go more to one
Speaker 1: show without them being without them wrestling. And I just
Speaker 1: like more and more people are saying that they just
Speaker 1: turn off the TV trade change the channel when when
Speaker 1: they come on, because they're not only are they wrestling
Speaker 1: way way too much, they're way overexposed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: Also the matches have been basically against the same people
Speaker 1: every time, you know, it's maybe some random people thrown in.
Speaker 1: This is the first match, honest to god, this is
Speaker 1: the first match that I can remember because they're going
Speaker 1: for the Trio's Championship with will Ospray. This is the
Speaker 1: first match I can remember that there's a meeting behind it.
Speaker 2: Why why why those two together? Can you fill me
Speaker 2: on why why they attack him with Osprey?
Speaker 1: Well, yes I can. Osprey is fighting Pack it all
Speaker 1: out mm hmm. Okay, and now the next we're gonna
Speaker 1: get to this, but we're gonna fill out our all
Speaker 1: out match card. Okay, but you also now you have
Speaker 1: Claudio Casigioli and Wheeler DA that are teaming with Pack.
Speaker 1: There's not gonna be a Trios Fun title match at
Speaker 1: all out because they're doing it tomorrow night. That doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense with non jobbers. So who are we know
Speaker 1: that Pack is? There's we know that there's not gonna
Speaker 1: be a Trails Championship match it all out because Pack
Speaker 1: already is part of a Trio's Champion but he's wrestling
Speaker 1: Osprey at all out. So Claudio cass and Wheeler DA,
Speaker 1: who are they wrestling it all out nobody yet, I
Speaker 1: guarantee you that after this match tomorrow night, something's gonna happen,
Speaker 1: and it's going to be announced. Wheeler you to Claudio
Speaker 1: cas against Orange Cassidy and Kyle o'reighty, Kyle O'Reilly all out,
Speaker 1: because God forbid that we'd have a freaking anything without
Speaker 1: Orange casting Kyle O'Reilly on it.
Speaker 2: I kind of want to see that match because I
Speaker 2: love I like and Orange cast together. I don't. I'm
Speaker 2: starting to not like the Clong conglomeration, but Kyle O'Reilly
Speaker 2: is a good striker and OC's not a striker, but
Speaker 2: he's a good mix. But the two together, so that
Speaker 2: interests me. I don't, like I said before, the conglomeration,
Speaker 2: I don't. I'm guessing Roderck Strong is going to be
Speaker 2: going against Hook, which is another match I don't care about.
Speaker 2: But that match does interest me because it's the good
Speaker 2: wrestlers and it just needs to happen. I mean, it
Speaker 2: just feels a good spot for me.
Speaker 1: Do you have any thoughts?
Speaker 3: I had an idea about seeing at least seeing FTR
Speaker 3: so much.
Speaker 1: A while back.
Speaker 3: We saw a lot of the young Bucks or the EVPs,
Speaker 3: and a lot of people complained that there was overexposure
Speaker 3: of them, and for a lot of different reasons, a
Speaker 3: lot of people dislike them. And I was wondering if
Speaker 3: the EVPs are actually trolling everyone and purposely having FTR
Speaker 3: on every week as kind of a hey, you know,
Speaker 3: you thought you didn't like seeing us, will take a
Speaker 3: look at this kind of a thing. And that's almost
Speaker 3: what it seems like they're doing.
Speaker 2: I can see that, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: You know, because they're constantly in some kind of feud
Speaker 3: with FTR, and it's just seems like they're getting back
Speaker 3: at the fans and they're getting back at FTR all
Speaker 3: in one, and other people just happen to be caught
Speaker 3: up in it. But I kind of think that's that
Speaker 3: maybe what they're doing.
Speaker 1: That is the queen of the conspiracy theory. Yes, my
Speaker 1: thing so.
Speaker 3: Too bad. I'm not doing too bad with them either.
Speaker 2: So I was painting, but.
Speaker 1: Hey, thought about that.
Speaker 3: How was painting? Yet we're gonna We're still.
Speaker 1: Still we're still building it. There's still room on there's
Speaker 1: still room at the table.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, evolving changing table.
Speaker 1: Of course, they have to hire a really expert artists
Speaker 1: to get the Osprey off the painting, but I haven't
Speaker 1: seen the painting in a while.
Speaker 3: Yees see, there's something to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, we're gonna do our We're gonna do our
Speaker 1: all out predictions show tomorrow night, which I hope to
Speaker 1: God that they add more matches to the card because
Speaker 1: we've only got six right now. But before we get
Speaker 1: into that, indulge me a minute, because I want to
Speaker 1: speak on something that is very important to me.
Speaker 2: It's about Eddie Kington in it.
Speaker 1: Oh of course, Now I'm being serious here. This is
Speaker 1: very important to me, and so just indulge me in
Speaker 1: for just a second. It's not really a discussion topic.
Speaker 1: It's just something that I wanted to say, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to be honest with you. I'm going to struggle
Speaker 1: to say it because it is that important to me.
Speaker 1: I May twenty third of twenty twenty, the wrestling world
Speaker 1: lost Kana Camera. She took her own life after being
Speaker 1: unfortunately cyber bullied from events that took place on the
Speaker 1: reality show scripted reality show Paris House and Now. Of course,
Speaker 1: Hanna was part Japanese a part Indonesia, so she was
Speaker 1: also bullied when he was younger as well. But it
Speaker 1: all came to head on May twenty, twenty twenty, when
Speaker 1: she did sadly and devastatingly, she took her own life
Speaker 1: due to cyber bullying. It was, I believe the night
Speaker 1: before one of the one of AAW's pay per views.
Speaker 1: I want to say it was Revolution in twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. And Excalibur actually they put up her.
Speaker 1: They put up her, you know, in memoriam on the
Speaker 1: big screen at the the at the pay per view,
Speaker 1: and ex Caliber, you know, called what happened, you know,
Speaker 1: senseless and stupid. Believe that was what his exact words were.
Speaker 1: And then he said something that he said something about
Speaker 1: social media and that it's not all basically not all
Speaker 1: what it's cracked up to be. And yeah, it's fun
Speaker 1: patrol on for some people on Reddit and Facebook and
Speaker 1: Twitter or ex whatever you want to call it. But
Speaker 1: what ex Caliber concluded what he said, he said, please
Speaker 1: let's be nicer to one another, and that you just
Speaker 1: can't put it any better than that. Remember that when
Speaker 1: you're saying something to somebody, you might think it's harmless,
Speaker 1: you might think that it's funny or cute or clever,
Speaker 1: but it could be devastating to the person that you're
Speaker 1: talking to, So don't go there. In memory of Hanna Kamia,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say that. All right, So let's
Speaker 1: move on. As I said earlier, we have six matches
Speaker 1: for all out, and of course we're I would I
Speaker 1: would think, what do you guys say? Four more pay
Speaker 1: per view matches and at least two on zero hour, right,
Speaker 1: m So we got to come up with six matches.
Speaker 1: Now we've already I think one of you already made
Speaker 1: a suggestion. I think it was MK made a suggestion. Well, let's, uh,
Speaker 1: let's fuk this out. Let's come up with two zero
Speaker 1: hour matches, and let's come up with four main show matches.
Speaker 1: What do you guys think, Let's come up with one each.
Speaker 1: I will go ahead and say mine again. I really
Speaker 1: do believe that we're gonna get Oorge Cassidy and Kyle
Speaker 1: O'Reilly against Claudio Cassignoli and Willy Rita. I don't know why,
Speaker 1: but I just think it's gonna happen, and I hope
Speaker 1: to God if that happens, it's a zero hour match.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Like I said before, I think it's gonna
Speaker 2: be hooked versus Roderick Strong in a throwing people match.
Speaker 1: Now, would you think that that's a main card match?
Speaker 1: And do you think that's a Zero hour match? Think?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't see any any He does fine
Speaker 2: on zero I don't need to see that on the
Speaker 2: main shows. He's done good.
Speaker 1: He has.
Speaker 2: Hook has done some good matches with Jack Perry on
Speaker 2: Zero Hour, so I think in work. But I just
Speaker 2: I just don't need to see him fill my screen
Speaker 2: on a pay per view anymore. He's not worth my time.
Speaker 2: That's for one that needs to have it. Okata needs
Speaker 2: to be on the pay per view in a singles match.
Speaker 2: I know tomorrow or not he's facing the Fletcher, Kyle Fletcher,
Speaker 2: but he needs If you're going to pay this man
Speaker 2: big bucks, in my opinion, he has to be He
Speaker 2: cannot miss two paper views in a row. Well yeah, okay, singles.
Speaker 2: Sorry he was on the Gauntlet match, but he needs
Speaker 2: to be in a singles match.
Speaker 1: But he didn't really have any build up to that
Speaker 1: gotlet match. And when you're paying somebody to big Bucks
Speaker 1: and he's supposed to be a superstar, you can't just
Speaker 1: throw him in a match the week of or four
Speaker 1: days before the pay per view either.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, I don't know who who it
Speaker 2: would be again, and I would love for it to
Speaker 2: be Moxley, but I don't know if Moxley and Darby
Speaker 2: Allen is going to be a thing or whatever he's
Speaker 2: trying to do because he needs a talk to Derby Allen.
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens, right, Net, Do you have
Speaker 1: any matches in mind?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not. I'll throw another one out there. Maybe
Speaker 1: when you hear our suggestions, maybe you'll come up with one, going,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that reminds me. How about Jimmie Hater against
Speaker 1: Sreya And I think that that could be a because
Speaker 1: it's a grudge match because Jimmy Hayter is just coming
Speaker 1: back and she was on zero Hour and all in
Speaker 1: which kind of confused a lot of people, including me
Speaker 1: to a but I got it, but I didn't get it.
Speaker 1: Jamie Hayter versus the Raya on the main card would
Speaker 1: be my pick.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I think FDR versus Grizzel young veterans will
Speaker 2: be they've been feuding and then the match. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: put that on instead of uh O'Reilly and and uh,
Speaker 2: Cassidy on there because those that'll be a whirlwind matches.
Speaker 2: They're as good as I've heard they are. I think
Speaker 2: that'll be a spectaclar match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never really seen them wrestle because I think
Speaker 1: one of the only time that they were on a
Speaker 1: w recently didn't have a match against the Outrunners.
Speaker 2: Yes, somebody like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I think it was the Outrunners, And
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but you know, if you want to see
Speaker 1: how somebody wrestles, you don't put them against the Outrunners, who,
Speaker 1: honestly odd I watched him wrestle once I found them.
Speaker 1: It's really dumb and not in a good way, and
Speaker 1: my TV gets the channel gets changed anytime Dot Runners
Speaker 1: is on.
Speaker 2: Dumb as you don't get their gimmick or dumb as what.
Speaker 1: Dumb is that they're They are not they are filler
Speaker 1: and they're not good filler. They're just stupid. I know
Speaker 1: NET loves Dan Housen, but what does Dan Housen do
Speaker 1: for you? You know what I mean? It's like he
Speaker 1: comes out, he does the same thing week after week
Speaker 1: after week after week, and whether he can wrestle is
Speaker 1: not wrestle or not as moot because he's never wrestled,
Speaker 1: and the last time that he wrestled, he had the
Speaker 1: one of the dumbest botches on on a w TV
Speaker 1: and one of the dumbest botches ever. So I'm sure
Speaker 1: that's what could have been hody CON's doghouse.
Speaker 3: I realize that my love for Dan Housen has less
Speaker 3: to do with Dan Hawise and the wrestler, because I've
Speaker 3: been watching him in the Independence and he's gotten so
Speaker 3: silly that I think I like his comedy stick more
Speaker 3: than his wrestling.
Speaker 2: So I think he'd be a great host or something
Speaker 2: for a w Do a show with him, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, could you imagine him in r J City,
Speaker 1: you know, doing me because they've had like a feud
Speaker 1: of words in the past. Can you bagine them like
Speaker 1: hosting Zero Hour together with with poor Rede pact he Probably.
Speaker 2: It would be like keenan Anda and Gorilla mon Soon together,
Speaker 2: just thicker and at each other.
Speaker 1: Yea, So go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3: The something needs to happen with Nick Wayne. We need
Speaker 3: to do something with him. He hasn't been featured in
Speaker 3: a while, and I'm I'm tired of seeing him running
Speaker 3: around with Christian Cage, So I'd like to see him
Speaker 3: pushed a little bit more. I don't know who he
Speaker 3: could feud with. Nobody comes to mind, but we need
Speaker 3: somebody for Nick Cage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but who? I mean? I can't think of anybody
Speaker 1: because they haven't put him in a in a position
Speaker 1: to have a feud with anybody. And frankly, it's you're
Speaker 1: the pay per views on Saturday. Yeah, less than four
Speaker 1: days away now, and there's just not enough time to
Speaker 1: build a feud.
Speaker 3: He could run and just start some nonsense. But with
Speaker 3: I mean, with who though?
Speaker 2: You know, just just take it up where I've got.
Speaker 1: I've got a match that I have in my mind,
Speaker 1: and it's a match that I've seen a lot of
Speaker 1: people wanting for a really long time, and I'm hoping
Speaker 1: that something happens tomorrow night. And where it can happen
Speaker 1: tomorrow night is during the trios match between Pack and
Speaker 1: Claudio and Judah against my guys and will Ostbury, and
Speaker 1: that is the patriarchy come out and interfere with the match. Remember,
Speaker 1: Christian Cage wants that title, he wants all the titles,
Speaker 1: and well here's the thing. If that happens, is there
Speaker 1: finally going to be a match where where the big
Speaker 1: guy and I am talking about Lucasaurus finally comes to
Speaker 1: his senses and snaps out of it and attacks Christian
Speaker 1: and Christian then says, I'm gonna I'm gonna put you
Speaker 1: back in line, and it's gonna be Christian against Lucasaurus
Speaker 1: out all out. That's a match that I want to see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that burn is is. Yeah, that reminds me of
Speaker 2: the whole Jamie Hayter when she's gonna turn on Britt Baker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, low burn. Or when is Chris stat Leather coming
Speaker 1: back so we can get rid of Jade Cargill.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. You know that's a match that uh
Speaker 2: stat Lander is evolved in again with with Willow. That's
Speaker 2: another match I don't want to see. But but there
Speaker 2: needs to be some more women's matches. Uh, does Mariah
Speaker 2: May not have a anybody go against you or she's
Speaker 2: taken off?
Speaker 1: I you know, personally, I don't think that Maria May
Speaker 1: is going to be on this pay per view. I
Speaker 1: think it is going to come down to Tony Tony
Speaker 1: Storm and uh and Soraya will be uh the third
Speaker 1: women's match added other than Mariah May. Who would Mariah
Speaker 1: May wrestle with? She has nothing going on right now, No,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean there are women that would be
Speaker 1: great matches, like Jamie Hayter would be a great match
Speaker 1: against Mariah May, but there's been no build to it
Speaker 1: at all, you know. And you can also throw in
Speaker 1: I don't know, somebody likes Serena deeb but again, Serena
Speaker 1: Deep just lost that match that four way for the
Speaker 1: chance at the TBS title. Oh, you lost that match,
Speaker 1: so you're going to go for the title now. It
Speaker 1: just doesn't make sense that Murai May on this pay
Speaker 1: per view at all unless she comes out and uh
Speaker 1: facing money. Sheida is facing money. Now. There has been
Speaker 1: one suggestion for a women's match that could happen. Could
Speaker 1: happen because the next event I believe that we have
Speaker 1: uh for aw is probably what Grand Slam. It's not
Speaker 1: a pay per view, but it's still an event, well
Speaker 1: technically Battle of the Belts, but there have been some
Speaker 1: discussions and I don't know what you guys think about this,
Speaker 1: but have a women's scatlet match and the winner gets
Speaker 1: a shot at Mariah May not at all out but
Speaker 1: at Grand Slam or Battle of the belts because there's
Speaker 1: no build, you know, but it would be a wayed,
Speaker 1: It would be a way to bring uh, somebody like
Speaker 1: Athena in absolutely Billy Arks in Red Velvet would be
Speaker 1: another great person to come in, Queen A Minada, Serena
Speaker 1: d but also bring back Anna j bring back Tate
Speaker 1: Mellow and maybe if she's ready, which I really do
Speaker 1: believe she is, Julia Hart. You know, not saying that
Speaker 1: any of these women are gonna win the match, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you've got some really big talents. I mean,
Speaker 1: don't forget you only need like ten or twelve mm hm.
Speaker 1: And you can even throw it, throw it at a
Speaker 1: surprise like maybe like Beth Phoenix or something like that.
Speaker 1: Somebody with a one off Mina Shrika would be would
Speaker 1: be great for that match as well. Maybe somebody else
Speaker 1: from stardom comes in. Anna Jay did make a few
Speaker 1: friends in stardom. You know, if Tate Mellow she's cleared.
Speaker 1: So I mean we've got you've got all kinds of
Speaker 1: stuff that you can do.
Speaker 2: And also really it reminds people who who don't watch
Speaker 2: as much who is in the women's division, because I
Speaker 2: think that gets lost quite a bit because the roster
Speaker 2: is not put out there as much as the men,
Speaker 2: so it's a nice reminder of who they have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't even mind if you put
Speaker 1: Jamie Hayter and Seraya and that match. You just had
Speaker 1: them have a confrontation there. Mh you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you think that the Gauntlet match is probably a
Speaker 1: better idea than the Siraya and Jamie Hayter idea that
Speaker 1: I had?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's plenty of fuse to build off of with that, so.
Speaker 1: Good ideas. Yeah, because we are getting who are we getting?
Speaker 1: It's all we are get. I think Mariah May Tomorrow Night,
Speaker 1: and I love the way to advertise it because she's
Speaker 1: going against Nyla Rose Tomorrow Night, and they're advertising it
Speaker 1: as Beauty versus the Native Beast. Beauty in the name
Speaker 1: no Beauty and the Native Beast. So I think that's
Speaker 1: pretty cool marketing. And it's kind of a shame that
Speaker 1: they didn't come up with that sooner because that could
Speaker 1: be at all out match. They very well could be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're two world champions. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Nila Rose seems to be the gatekeeper who they always
Speaker 2: throw kind of like Lance archer is always a person
Speaker 2: who they throw at the heavyweight champion to prove they
Speaker 2: can beat so and Nyla's obviously funny and charismatic and
Speaker 2: can carry it. But I've always wanted to see more
Speaker 2: of her and I'm kind of tired of her being
Speaker 2: on the back of Burner all the time. She deserves
Speaker 2: to be at least TBS champion.
Speaker 1: Yeah. One other thing that I could think of, but
Speaker 1: I don't know what they can possibly do with this,
Speaker 1: is remember you have a built in mixed tag as well.
Speaker 1: You've got John Moxley and a Marina Shaffir sitting there. Now,
Speaker 1: whether they do a mixed tag or as I think
Speaker 1: MKA said, John Moxley against Okada, why not have Marina
Speaker 1: Shaffir against somebody. But to make it viable, it's got
Speaker 1: to be somebody good. But it's got to be somebody
Speaker 1: that Marina Shaffir can beat and defeat, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Because it doesn't make sense to have John
Speaker 1: Moxley come to the ring with Tony Shavanni and say
Speaker 1: this is not your company anymore and then have somebody
Speaker 1: that just beat up what three security guards of Marina
Speaker 1: Shafir use to you know somebody, but you don't want
Speaker 1: it to be It has to be somebody. It's got
Speaker 1: to be somebody. And Cameron, i'd I don't think that
Speaker 1: Harley Cameron has earned that. Look, I think Harley Cameron
Speaker 1: is a phenomenal talent. He has got personality. She's got
Speaker 1: the great personality. She's very good in the ring. She
Speaker 1: really is. I mean she's for as little as she's wrestled,
Speaker 1: I think that she is really really good. I would
Speaker 1: kind of like to see Marina Shaffir go against somebody
Speaker 1: with a little bit higher status, maybe someone like Queidaminada.
Speaker 1: Maybe do a why not have uh Marina uh when
Speaker 1: the uh? I don't think starks, I really don't. Something
Speaker 1: tells me that that's not a good one. But why
Speaker 1: not have Marina Shafir really make a name for herself
Speaker 1: and go ahead and put the Ring of Honor Tellivision
Speaker 1: Women's Television Championship up on the line and have Marina
Speaker 1: Shafir in red velvet and have Marina Marina Shafir win
Speaker 1: the Ring of Honor Television Championship. That may work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna hold my wrath on how good and
Speaker 2: wait and see how good?
Speaker 1: She actually is.
Speaker 2: Maybe she's gotten better from last time. But I don't
Speaker 2: want this to be another Hook type situation or or
Speaker 2: J Cargill.
Speaker 1: But well, well, John Boxley has been working with her.
Speaker 1: I mean that's been well known for probably the last
Speaker 1: eight or nine months. Boxley is a true believer, Marina
Speaker 1: chip Fear. This is not a chance partnership. Boxley thinks
Speaker 1: very highly of Shafir and I'm sure he's been working
Speaker 1: with her. And it kind of showed in that backstage
Speaker 1: segment the other night because Shaffir looked like a female
Speaker 1: Boxley to me, it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Yeah, yeah, she looked menacing and stuff, and
Speaker 2: I'll give it to her.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I think maybe that's what the Blackpool Combat Club needs,
Speaker 2: don't I don't know what they're getting ready to do,
Speaker 2: but putting her against bigger names, you know, maybe maybe
Speaker 2: a Leila hirsh because she did such good, such a
Speaker 2: good job at the last Ring of Barner It maybe
Speaker 2: that's something that she could But because those who have
Speaker 2: a good mixture of the same type of fighting skills,
Speaker 2: maybe that's somebody who could put her ever as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that Layla hirsh Man on that match. Oh, that
Speaker 1: was just a good match. If you if you have
Speaker 1: a chance, if you're listening to this and you haven't
Speaker 1: seen that match from death before Disner, I believe it
Speaker 1: was just Diamante and Layla Hirst put on, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: the women's match of the year. Nothing else has touched
Speaker 1: it that I've seen, So, I mean, that was just
Speaker 1: a great match a W wise and I mean that
Speaker 1: sincerely because I'm sure that wwee and startup but put
Speaker 1: on equally great matches. But as far as like it's
Speaker 1: hurting between a W and R O H, that was
Speaker 1: the best match I've seen this year easily. So all right, well,
Speaker 1: does anybody else have any matches that they can think of?
Speaker 1: For all out? M H.
Speaker 3: Stokely and Eddie Kingston?
Speaker 1: Will you just want to get any killed, don't you?
Speaker 1: He's Eddie's not going to be back until May or
Speaker 1: June of next year, that is. Or do you are
Speaker 1: you or are you just trying to annoy the hell
Speaker 1: out of me? Both? Both? Because Eddie, I know why
Speaker 1: you like Eddie Kingston now because he looks so much
Speaker 1: like John Shawn Michaels, one of those circus mirrors. But uh.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so tomorrow night we're going to be doing
Speaker 1: we'll do it. I'm sure we'll incorporate it like we
Speaker 1: did with our All In Prediction Show. We're going to
Speaker 1: do an all out prediction show and we're going to
Speaker 1: invite members of the a w Fan hubb community to
Speaker 1: join us two make their picks. So, uh, we're going
Speaker 1: to keep a scorecard. Well that you kept the scorecard
Speaker 1: last time. I never got it, so I don't know
Speaker 1: who won. Uh.
Speaker 3: Okay, somebody else is in charge of scorecards.
Speaker 1: I guess so, because that's the that put it put
Speaker 1: the scorecard for All In in a time vault and
Speaker 1: it's currently in the foundation of an elementary school being
Speaker 1: built in Washington.
Speaker 3: A major elementary school, major.
Speaker 1: Major elementary school. That was a great line. But anyway,
Speaker 1: that was a don Kallis line. Don't look it up.
Speaker 1: You can see it on the aw fat hub sub reddit.
Speaker 1: It's a It's brilliant don Kallis talking about Disco Inferno
Speaker 1: and his uh, I guess his legitimate see as far
Speaker 1: as speaking about anything on pro wrestling and business. But anyway,
Speaker 1: so we will be doing the All Out Prediction Show,
Speaker 1: and of course we'll be doing a part of it.
Speaker 1: I'm sure tomorrow night's Dynamite will will bring out at
Speaker 1: least a couple of more matches for All Out, so
Speaker 1: we'll be kind of incorporating the All Out Prediction show
Speaker 1: with the Dynamite from tomorrow night. So if you're listening
Speaker 1: to this and you'd like to come and make your predictions,
Speaker 1: join us on the aw fan hub subreddit. We'll have
Speaker 1: a post up tomorrow morning about that, and then if
Speaker 1: you can't join us tomorrow night on the podcast, which
Speaker 1: we will have open for everybody right here on our
Speaker 1: discord channel and the Discord channels. Invite will be in
Speaker 1: the podcast description as well, so you can join directly
Speaker 1: from there and you can join us to make your predictions.
Speaker 1: But if you can't, go on the aw fanom subreddit
Speaker 1: and make your predictions in that post. And of course,
Speaker 1: unfortunately we only have six matches that out so far,
Speaker 1: so unfortunately you will not be able to make predictions
Speaker 1: on anything after Dynamite if nothing's announced, so hopefully we
Speaker 1: do get some more matches announced for Dynamite. All right,
Speaker 1: So that's the show for tonight. Thanks MK and NET
Speaker 1: for joining us, and the good news is that after
Speaker 1: Framliker crossed the pond and enjoying all in and he
Speaker 1: probably had came back to massive jet lag our, co
Speaker 1: host Alex will be joining us once again tomorrow night.
Speaker 1: Thank goodness, so I don't have to talk as much
Speaker 1: because you know I'm the strong, silent type. Yes, actually
Speaker 1: I was waking. No, you're weak loud mouth. But anyway,
Speaker 1: we will see you tomorrow night. Forty a w fat
Speaker 1: Hub podcast team. This is Kelson, good night, Eddie Kingston
Speaker 1: and Shawn Michaels whoever that has a thing for it
Speaker 1: a thing, good night, good night,