Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Game Mess Mornings with Me Jeff Grubb,
Speaker 1: your host from giant bomb dot com. Thank you for
Speaker 1: tuning in. In this episode, we're going to be talking
Speaker 1: about the biggest game game yet that is getting delayed
Speaker 1: to Dodge Grand Theft out of six, and what to
Speaker 1: expect from Summer Game Fest, which is going to put
Speaker 1: us out a commission on the show for the rest
Speaker 1: of the week after today's show, everybody, so let's make
Speaker 1: it a good one, which it will be because we
Speaker 1: have lex Luddy on the show.
Speaker 2: Lexie, how are you doing. I'm not doing too bad.
Speaker 3: I'm celebrating two family birthdays at the moment. My brother
Speaker 3: was yesterday, my mom's today, So shout outs to them.
Speaker 2: It's been nice.
Speaker 3: To hang out with those folks and they're pretty great.
Speaker 3: So happy birthday to them.
Speaker 1: All right, excellent? Yeah, happy birthday the extended Luddy family. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fantastic. When you said you had two family birthdays, like,
Speaker 1: talk about your two families, your family and your secret family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my family.
Speaker 3: I'm a secret Fanily my secret family is Giant Bomb.
Speaker 3: I was talking about turbohmp oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, happy birthday again to Turbot Shan's his birthday every week.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Can I tell you that I really upset Turbo
Speaker 3: Shan this weekend?
Speaker 2: No, what I mean, it's not hard to do, But
Speaker 2: what do you do?
Speaker 3: I recommend I noticed his first time out at SGEF,
Speaker 3: and he'll be experiencing the wonders of the Kiwi food
Speaker 3: that they provide. They provide you the tickets, and you know,
Speaker 3: you go up and you're like, I want a burrito
Speaker 3: and they give you a burrito a lot. I want
Speaker 3: a sonic milk thing and they give you a sonic
Speaker 3: milk thing or whatever.
Speaker 1: The rfk's inverted pyramid. Yeah, that's what you're describing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I told him to order the Lexi Special,
Speaker 3: which is what I got one of the days that
Speaker 3: I was at SGF, where I think they misunderstood either
Speaker 3: my accent or what I said, or they just looked
Speaker 3: at how white I will and were like, this is
Speaker 3: what you actually want? And they gave me a Bali
Speaker 3: show with nothing but rice and salt setish.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah that we we coined boys salad with nachos. That's
Speaker 1: a whole other kind of of just alternative food there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Look they are doing their best.
Speaker 3: I was like, I wasn't gonna complain and I ate
Speaker 3: the whole thing because I was fucking hungry. And Sean
Speaker 3: was like this, this goes against my culture. And I
Speaker 3: had to break it to him, like, but the other
Speaker 3: half your culture, it's deeply in tune.
Speaker 2: With Yeah, okay, and that's what upset and yeah, that'll
Speaker 2: do it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, he's a he's proud that he can handle
Speaker 1: that Mexican food for sure, handle it, of course he can.
Speaker 1: But you really, uh, you've kind of just knocked me
Speaker 1: off my my moors over here because I can't stop
Speaker 1: thinking about Sonic being milked now and that's what they're
Speaker 1: serving at SGF. Keiley insist on it. That's a disgusting image.
Speaker 1: They just won't go away, and I'm ruined.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Actually, SGF is coming up. I know, I know you're
Speaker 1: not coming this year. Good don't come to the United States.
Speaker 1: Don't do it this year. But we got plans to
Speaker 1: like just kick back at home, watch everything comment online.
Speaker 2: What are your plans?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Honestly, the main problem with not going is that
Speaker 3: everything's on at like two am.
Speaker 2: I'm a Giant Bomb.
Speaker 3: Live show starts at like four am for me, so
Speaker 3: I will try to be around and awake for at
Speaker 3: least some of those things. I will try to be
Speaker 3: in chat when GB at Night is on for at
Speaker 3: least some of it. But I will also be trying
Speaker 3: to get a little bit asleep because I've been a
Speaker 3: little bit sick the last few weekends.
Speaker 2: So I recover on West.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm actually going up to Dublin Wednesday to
Speaker 3: meet up with some game developers, so that'll be nice.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's weird not going. But also, yeah,
Speaker 3: you couldn't make me go to the US right now
Speaker 3: if you tried.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, smart. We'll try to get things figured out.
Speaker 1: Oh if here so everyone can return one day, we'll see.
Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: All right, we have a lot to get into, so
Speaker 1: let's start the morning mess with that news that broke
Speaker 1: late last week. Fable delayed to February twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Xbox has confirmed this is from Adam Hale's at Windows Central.
Speaker 1: Despite numerous affirmations that Fable was indeed coming this year,
Speaker 1: Matt Boody has unfortunately confirmed in a new Xbox podcast
Speaker 1: that the game has been delayed. In the podcast, Booty States,
Speaker 1: we talked about Forts Horizon six and how the team
Speaker 1: at Playground is doing well, also doing really well on Fable.
Speaker 1: The game is in great shape. Team feels really good.
Speaker 1: We're excited about.
Speaker 2: Where the game is.
Speaker 1: We want to make sure that the game has a
Speaker 1: window all its own, so we are going to move
Speaker 1: it from this fall to February, and again, we really
Speaker 1: just want to want it to have its own moment
Speaker 1: to shine. And related to Fable, we will be seeing
Speaker 1: more of it in the showcase, so we're going to
Speaker 1: have plenty of people to see people to see it
Speaker 1: or whatever. Blah blah blah. Okay, yeah, I mean this
Speaker 1: one just felt like, I'll tell you what, when this
Speaker 1: got announced, more people than ever. I think we're saying Hey, cool, good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not just like, oh, this game needs more time.
Speaker 2: It's beyond that. Now.
Speaker 1: I think everyone's like they're not even saying they need
Speaker 1: more time. They're just saying they want to give it
Speaker 1: a chance to succeed away from Grand Theft Auto six.
Speaker 1: And then I think a lot of people who were saying, oh, good, yeah,
Speaker 1: put it to next year are saying, yeah, even if
Speaker 1: I don't care about Grand Theft Auto six, I have
Speaker 1: five to six other games that I'm going to be
Speaker 1: playing in that timeframe anyhow, I don't another one or
Speaker 1: coming along late in the year to add to that pile.
Speaker 1: You know that pile's not going to go anyway, go
Speaker 1: away magically on December thirty first. But still, this does
Speaker 1: feel like it's a good move for a game that
Speaker 1: seemed like it was destined to come out after Grand
Speaker 1: Theft Auto in that inn those few weeks between that
Speaker 1: and Christmas, and it probably just wasn't going to be
Speaker 1: very good for Fable, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Xbox, despite being a company which exclusively seems to operate
Speaker 3: on not learning lessons, surely must have learned some lessons
Speaker 3: from the back to back soft sales of Avowed and
Speaker 3: Outer Worlds because both of those games.
Speaker 2: That's December or whatever it was. Yeah, all of.
Speaker 3: Those games did not sell as well as they like
Speaker 3: probably should have when you look at them. Out of
Speaker 3: Worlds in particular, they had the whole fucking stuff with
Speaker 3: trying to raise that thing's plice to eighty dollars, which
Speaker 3: was just fucking nuts that they tried to make that
Speaker 3: the game that they did that with.
Speaker 2: First.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, did you watch any of this podcast?
Speaker 2: No, it's weird.
Speaker 3: It's like a twelve minute podcast, which I get there.
Speaker 3: Of course they're gonna highly edit hush, but like there's
Speaker 3: about a minute of the podcast dedicated to like, hey,
Speaker 3: mat So, how you doing.
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't care. I really don't. I really
Speaker 2: don't about the booty.
Speaker 3: You're right, they should rename the podcast. They should only
Speaker 3: talk about how Mad is doing and rename the podcast
Speaker 3: Booty Call. Yeah, that would when I would actually listen
Speaker 3: to it.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: But this scene, like they have a busy enough schedule
Speaker 3: for the end of this year, and like you look
Speaker 3: at it, it's not even just Xbox games, it's third
Speaker 3: party games where that they're competing against. It will be
Speaker 3: one thing if it was Xbox games, and they could
Speaker 3: shuffle those around, you know, a bit more as they want.
Speaker 3: But some of these games they just can't move. You
Speaker 3: have they mentioned Control Residence, I was gonnac To Race
Speaker 3: alongside Plant Theft Auto six. I don't really think those
Speaker 3: are like necessarily the biggest hitters in the world, but
Speaker 3: there's still stuff that they have to move around that
Speaker 3: they can't move themselves. And if there was one of
Speaker 3: these games which I bet could do with as much
Speaker 3: time as possible, it is that Fable game. And also,
Speaker 3: like I think an early twenty twenty seven like that
Speaker 3: kind of Capcom Zone suits Fabled pretty well. When it's
Speaker 3: quiet and people have come off of Game of the
Speaker 3: Year and people are excited about like playing games again,
Speaker 3: and the ki Le's have just happened, and Christmas has
Speaker 3: just happened, and people are excited about like what games
Speaker 3: can be and all of this. Like there's some amount
Speaker 3: of positive feeling towards the game's industry in January and
Speaker 3: February nowadays every year. So I think that kind of
Speaker 3: window makes sense for them for if they want to
Speaker 3: put out a big game that people it's in a
Speaker 3: franchise that hasn't been around for a while, so anyone
Speaker 3: buying it will feel like they are taking a risk
Speaker 3: by buying it. They feel like, you know, I don't
Speaker 3: know what this is going to be, if it's going
Speaker 3: to be good or ash, and so it makes sense,
Speaker 3: but like I don't know, Well, all of.
Speaker 2: The seems.
Speaker 3: Very predictable, and like, yeah, of course, yeah, it's not surprising.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, a few weeks back, I
Speaker 1: was here in all the games being delayed till later
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six, and I just I couldn't help you,
Speaker 1: Like'm probably gonna get delayed to twenty twenty seven, right,
Speaker 1: because it's just like, as soon as you hear that,
Speaker 1: I think everyone had the same thoughts. So it wasn't
Speaker 1: some spectacular prediction. It was just like, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: later in the year. It's already saying autumn. Later would
Speaker 1: mean November or December. Well we all know, no know
Speaker 1: when God's Green Earth? Was this thing going to come
Speaker 1: out around Grand Theft Auto six, So it just meant December.
Speaker 1: And once you're in December, what's the difference between December
Speaker 1: and January February. There's one difference. It's like you can
Speaker 1: be before Christmas. But we just we see that that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean a lot always for December releases. Sometimes it does,
Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't.
Speaker 3: If you're not not help Indiana Jones, you know, it.
Speaker 2: Didn't, Yeah, not really.
Speaker 1: And it's like if you aren't before Black Friday, like
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you kind of you already missed one
Speaker 1: of the bigger boats. So yeah, pretty easy to kind
Speaker 1: of put two and two together there and now here
Speaker 1: we are. You know, people are like maybe a little
Speaker 1: annoyed because right after I was saying that, the studio
Speaker 1: was saying, hey, you're gonna no, you're gonna get to
Speaker 1: play this game in autumn. It's like, yeah, I bet
Speaker 1: that still was the plan up until very recently. And
Speaker 1: now they get to move and get its own window
Speaker 1: and the game gets a little bit more time in
Speaker 1: the oven, which which just can't hurt these days. Every
Speaker 1: game that seems to like really seem to help out Bond, Right,
Speaker 1: Double seven got an extra six six ish months in
Speaker 1: the Oven, and that game came out much more refined
Speaker 1: than I was expecting.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and considering how hot that game came in also, yes, right,
Speaker 3: it seems like they were actively using that time, and
Speaker 3: like unless you're playing on if you're not playing on PC,
Speaker 3: you might not know this. There's like PC graphic settings,
Speaker 3: including path tracing that they're like, yeah, we're gonna add
Speaker 3: that in a month's time. So that's how short Runway
Speaker 3: was was they literally ran out a runway for certain
Speaker 3: features which they've been using in the marketing, you know,
Speaker 3: like path tracing was a big in Vidia co marketing
Speaker 3: point that they were talking about with this game. So like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that and again, that game gave off the vibe of
Speaker 3: if we delay out of the date that we have
Speaker 3: right now, we may as well delay it to twenty
Speaker 3: twenty seven. And in Io's case, I don't think they
Speaker 3: could have done that because they're an independent studio.
Speaker 2: And already space.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, we just heard from a reporter,
Speaker 1: like I think a news report from the country of
Speaker 1: origin which I can't remember.
Speaker 2: Is it that? Are they in Denmark? I can't remember.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: They were saying that game seven years, two hundred million
Speaker 1: dollars and so yeah, okay, well I'm glad it's doing
Speaker 1: very well. But man, that's just what games are these days,
Speaker 1: and you know, Microsoft can afford it and it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, you do the math and it's like.
Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, yeah, we'll delay it. Every day.
Speaker 1: Delay it is a delay that costs us is a
Speaker 1: day that costs more money. You know, we got to
Speaker 1: pay the studio. We're not making any money on it,
Speaker 1: but not being next to Grand Theft Auto six sort
Speaker 1: of pays for itself in some ways. All right, let's
Speaker 1: shift gears over here to US legislation. In California, a
Speaker 1: US bill that would keep games playable after being shut
Speaker 1: down passes its first vote. This is from Elijah Gonzalez
Speaker 1: at Polygon. The Stop Killing gamesment movement is finally starting
Speaker 1: to gain traction in the United States. The California Assembly
Speaker 1: recently passed the Protect Our Games Act by a bipartisan
Speaker 1: vote of forty three to sixteen. With the bill having
Speaker 1: passed the California's legislative branch, which is the state equivalent
Speaker 1: of Congress, it will move to the state Senate for
Speaker 1: a committee debate in June. The Stop Killing Games movements
Speaker 1: YouTube page offered the following description of what the legislation
Speaker 1: would mean. The bill would require video game companies to
Speaker 1: give players advanced notice before shutting down server dependent games
Speaker 1: and provide a way to keep purchase games playable afterward,
Speaker 1: such as offline access, community servers, or another workable option.
Speaker 1: It should be noted that this would only apply to
Speaker 1: purchase games, meaning free to play titles seemingly wouldn't fall
Speaker 1: under the legislation. If it were to pass, it would
Speaker 1: appear it would only apply to games released after January
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven. Simply Member Chris Ward from San Diego
Speaker 1: announced the news, explaining that the bill is fighting for
Speaker 1: your consumer protection and full right and enjoyment of these games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this continues to me to be like when I hear
Speaker 1: the industry go, oh, this is untenable, it's unworkable, and
Speaker 1: saying nothing about it sounds that way to me. I'm
Speaker 1: sure it sounds like it might cost you a little
Speaker 1: bit extra, but honestly, what it sounds like it will
Speaker 1: it will cost you is just a little bit of forethought,
Speaker 1: just a little bit of thinking about the game that
Speaker 1: you're putting out there and what its long term viability
Speaker 1: will be, and maybe just make it a couple of
Speaker 1: different choices to ensure that something in the game is
Speaker 1: still going to work so people who spent money on
Speaker 1: it can have some sort of enjoyment from it, and
Speaker 1: if it's if the laws made be a little bit
Speaker 1: more drastic than that and forces these companies to do
Speaker 1: even more so be it like figure it out. I
Speaker 1: just don't think that so in pain for something and
Speaker 1: then that then continuing to work is something that should
Speaker 1: be like, oh, well, we just can't do that. Nah,
Speaker 1: I think we probably should LEXI what do you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the one bit of this I'm curious about, and
Speaker 3: I'd be interesting to read over the actual legislation to
Speaker 3: see if there's provisions in for it is games that
Speaker 3: make the movement from paid to free to play, like
Speaker 3: that's not an uncommon thing. Destiny is probably the highest
Speaker 3: profile example where that game was a sixty dollars game
Speaker 3: at launch and then after several years it moved into
Speaker 3: the free to play well and it went to expansions
Speaker 3: and things like that. So yeah, like I'm curious this
Speaker 3: stuff is. Also it's complicated because like I'm not sure
Speaker 3: if you saw the stop killing game stuff coming out
Speaker 3: of the EU, but there were folks talking to the
Speaker 3: EU about this, and like turns out guy who got
Speaker 3: up there super like anti woke, Like it's also woke
Speaker 3: that is destroying video games.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, yeah, like.
Speaker 3: They I am all in favor of stop killing games.
Speaker 3: The problem is, as a decentralized movement, they extremely do
Speaker 3: seem to have a problem with actually having consistency in
Speaker 3: who is out there speaking about it, because like not
Speaker 3: even just from like hey, I think this guy is
Speaker 3: a dirt bag for trying to throw progressors under the
Speaker 3: bus as like these are the people actually ruining games.
Speaker 3: But because like that's not how you build a stable
Speaker 3: political movement. If you have people who are very clearly
Speaker 3: from the opposite end of the spectrum trying to poison
Speaker 3: pill their agenda into your legislation that you're trying to
Speaker 3: push forward globally and all these different legions, it's not
Speaker 3: gonna end well, it's not gonna cohesive movement. And you've
Speaker 3: seen that over the years with like all of these
Speaker 3: different wide scale social movements, is that as soon as
Speaker 3: they get co opted by someone with an interest that
Speaker 3: overrides the original interest, then it just becomes a poison
Speaker 3: pill issue. It becomes like, well, this is a populous movement,
Speaker 3: and we can push our agenda more if we latch
Speaker 3: onto this populist movement, and we start like also tacking
Speaker 3: on a bunch of life.
Speaker 2: And also they won't.
Speaker 3: Hire too many gay people when they make the video games.
Speaker 3: But you know, it's it's just a it's that is
Speaker 3: a problem for Stop Killing Games as a movement to
Speaker 3: figure out. I'm not sure if the appetite is actually
Speaker 3: there for them to figure it out, because from everything
Speaker 3: I've seen, they are a very lass a faire is
Speaker 3: the wrong word, because they've been very active in it,
Speaker 3: but they have been very central, Like yes, they've been
Speaker 3: very steamlike in their kind of like that moderation isn't
Speaker 3: a job, you know, And so I just wonder if
Speaker 3: that hunger is there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's like I do think it's
Speaker 1: like that's why I when I see what's happening in
Speaker 1: California is like a pretty good sign because it's already
Speaker 1: pushed past what would matter from from that, uh, like
Speaker 1: the opportunity for someone to like latch onto that end
Speaker 1: to cause that sort of problem has already passed in
Speaker 1: California at least, And if this law passes in California.
Speaker 2: It effectively passes worldwide. It's very similar to the EU.
Speaker 1: The California is you know, one of the top ten
Speaker 1: economies on its own in the world. Companies are not
Speaker 1: going to have different versions for California versus the rest
Speaker 1: of the world, so they will just have to abide
Speaker 1: by this. So it's like, okay, yeah, they've already pushed
Speaker 1: past this problem. And the ownership that anyone from Stop
Speaker 1: Killing Games might have over this is also sort of
Speaker 1: that Patonce being passed, it's now, you know, to the
Speaker 1: legislator and if they is, all they really got to
Speaker 1: do is like kind of keep the pressure on to
Speaker 1: make sure it can actually pass the Senate and uh.
Speaker 1: And then the people actually speaking for it will be
Speaker 1: the people actually who have been elected in California. And
Speaker 1: that's that's mostly a good thing here point, because yeah,
Speaker 1: these movements are such a problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead please, Starling interrupted you huge breaking news here,
Speaker 3: And so Magic the Gathering Wizards of the Coasts have
Speaker 3: announced that Felix the Cash is coming to the game.
Speaker 2: Finally. Oh man, the kids are.
Speaker 3: Talking about Felix the Cat. That's saying, the one ip
Speaker 3: that could topple the final Fantasy Collab was Felix the Cat.
Speaker 2: It's it's upon us, everybody.
Speaker 1: You've been asking about it NonStop and I've been trying
Speaker 1: to get answers for you. Well, here it is finally confirmed.
Speaker 1: Felix the Cat. There was a Felix the Cat game
Speaker 1: for this game, and yes, yeah, and even then it was.
Speaker 2: Like who so I guess. I mean, I knew Felix
Speaker 2: the Cat.
Speaker 1: Like existed, but it was like already it felt so
Speaker 1: old at that point. Felix the Cat is one of
Speaker 1: those that I was like, oh, that will never come back.
Speaker 2: And now here we.
Speaker 3: Are someone Mike Manati just shot out up out of
Speaker 3: bed awake.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming he's still in bed. Yeah, a Felix the
Speaker 2: Cat fan, we know that.
Speaker 1: All right, let's see here, let's hit this next story.
Speaker 1: Summer Game Fest Week begins. It's here everybody. The PlayStation
Speaker 1: state of Play is tomorrow SGF the like you know,
Speaker 1: the presentation is on Friday, The Xbox event is on Sunday,
Speaker 1: and then rumors are Nintendo Direct the week after that,
Speaker 1: very soon after that. So yeah, the Sony State of Play,
Speaker 1: that's Tuesday, June second, sixty minutes of updates, new games.
Speaker 1: It's going to open with Marvel's Wolverine begins at five
Speaker 1: pm Eastern, two pm Pacific time. SGF is at five
Speaker 1: pm Eastern. That would be two pm Pacific time as well.
Speaker 1: That's on Friday, and then the Xbox Showcase is Sunday,
Speaker 1: June seventh, I believe ten am Pacific time, one pm Eastern.
Speaker 1: We'll be talking over all of those everybody while we're
Speaker 1: out there in LA while we'll be home for the
Speaker 1: State of Play thing tomorrow. But there's also been a
Speaker 1: lot of kind of leaks or early confirmations, a bunch
Speaker 1: of stuff, so let's kind of go over those and
Speaker 1: then we'll talk about what people should expect from Summer
Speaker 1: Game Fest. LEXI Kronos Lazarus ig in appeared to have
Speaker 1: accidentally listed Kronos Lazarus as part of ig and Live,
Speaker 1: which runs June sixth through June seventh. My Nintendo News
Speaker 1: frames it as an unannounced game that IGN revealed too early,
Speaker 1: possibly related to Bluebird Team's Chronos Survival Horror. Ip I
Speaker 1: would assume that is exactly what it is, although it
Speaker 1: feels like a little bit early.
Speaker 2: What do you think that actually is?
Speaker 3: It could be like a stand loan DLC or an
Speaker 3: expansion for Kronos the I like that game. I liked
Speaker 3: Chronos more than most people. I think me and Jeff
Speaker 3: Bacola were like the two people that finished it, but
Speaker 3: I enjoyed Chronos people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what that's what they refer to you as. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then there's all these Raymann leaks, which seems all
Speaker 1: but confirmed at this point. Rayman Origins Enhanced Edition Warrior
Speaker 1: sixty four spotted Rayman Origins Enhanced Edition on the Xbox
Speaker 1: Store for Xbox.
Speaker 2: Series x n S.
Speaker 1: It's got a two thousand dollars placeholder price, which is fun.
Speaker 2: And then it's.
Speaker 3: Gonna got the note that people are raising prices and
Speaker 3: in a very ubi soft Likens move just took it
Speaker 3: way too fucking farm.
Speaker 1: They're beating the rest of the market to the next price. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's got four k sixty frames per second, four player
Speaker 1: co op, and quality of life improvements. And then there's
Speaker 1: ray Man Legends Retold, which is you know, the subtitle
Speaker 1: is not Enhanced Edition.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: It seems like they're doing two different things with these things,
Speaker 1: but who knows. That is coming October first, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: The price is forty dollars.
Speaker 2: There will be physical editions, reportedly limited to.
Speaker 1: PS five and switched to Call of Duty Black Ops
Speaker 1: and Black Ops two remastered. MP First reports that the
Speaker 1: original Call of Duty Black Ops and Black Ops two
Speaker 1: were rated in South Korea. This usually points to some
Speaker 1: kind of re release or remaster. This has happened before.
Speaker 1: They did this with Modern Warfare, and then when they
Speaker 1: did that, Modern Warfare remaster came out not long after.
Speaker 2: PERSONA four Christopher Maloney, Yeah, but we need three give
Speaker 2: them even bigger cake this time, just to show up.
Speaker 3: You got to say, this smacks a desperation to try
Speaker 3: to clean up the Black Ops brand after just how
Speaker 3: fucking dire seven was and how it was received. This
Speaker 3: is like, this gives off the vibe. But like, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: you you like the numbers, right, you like, but we're
Speaker 3: bringing back the numbers.
Speaker 2: The numbers, Mason, the numbers Mason.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I think you're probably right, and that this
Speaker 1: is probably part of a long term project or middle
Speaker 1: term project to like, yeah, you're right, clean up that
Speaker 1: name and get people ready for black Ops again, because
Speaker 1: Black Ops.
Speaker 2: Is very, very important to them.
Speaker 1: I mean, they keep going back to Modern Warfare, they
Speaker 1: keep going back to Black Ops.
Speaker 2: They're not done. I know they said they're going to
Speaker 2: try to do other stuff.
Speaker 3: They could always change tact and move over to Ghosts too,
Speaker 3: that game too.
Speaker 1: Finally, let's I would play ghost I want to see
Speaker 1: what they would do with that dumb shit even more racist.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, well they'll they can always find a way. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about Call of Duty stuff here in a second,
Speaker 1: because there. I just don't get the fandom for those
Speaker 1: games anymore. Persona for Revival that was also rated in
Speaker 1: South Korea that the you know Games Radar pointed out
Speaker 1: that like a hopeful thing here, pointing out previous games
Speaker 1: that have been mentioned by them, Gears of War, E Day,
Speaker 1: Castlevania's Belmont, Belmont's Curse, Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy for
Speaker 1: switch to Lego Skylines. All of those seem seemingly are
Speaker 1: going going to be announced one way or another at
Speaker 1: at Summer Game Fest or maybe that Nintendo Direct. I'm
Speaker 1: excited about most of those Guardians of the Galaxy getting
Speaker 1: a native version for switch to it probably just pops
Speaker 1: up at at Nintendo, the Nintendo Direct and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Game It's it's really good.
Speaker 1: And do you remember what do we have a release
Speaker 1: date for Caslvania Belmont's Curse or is that.
Speaker 3: I don't think think so, but I would be very
Speaker 3: curious to get one.
Speaker 2: Yes that.
Speaker 1: And also I would be curious to get one for
Speaker 1: Ace Combat eight Wings of Thieve, which is one of
Speaker 1: my most anticipated games. So hopefully we'll get some more
Speaker 1: information about that. But Okay, that's the stuff that's like
Speaker 1: swirling out there. What are your expectations for SGF kind
Speaker 1: of just from a hey, what would be fun if
Speaker 1: that gun announced? Or what these companies are trying to
Speaker 1: accomplish with these events it.
Speaker 3: I think it's going to feel like a very busy show,
Speaker 3: purely because so many companies have dates that they need
Speaker 3: to get off their books. Because everyone was waiting for
Speaker 3: confirmation that Grand Theft aut Or wasn't going to move again,
Speaker 3: and now that it's kind of been confirmed and locked
Speaker 3: in and they've said to their investors like, no, we're
Speaker 3: not moving again, I think everyone's going to be like, Okay,
Speaker 3: after the races, we can now set our actual dates
Speaker 3: and start planning things. So I do think we're going
Speaker 3: to see a lot of release dates at this show.
Speaker 3: I'd love like one or two genuine surprises. I don't
Speaker 3: know how likely that is, and you know, maybe there'll
Speaker 3: be something genuinely surprising at that stay to play, maybe
Speaker 3: some actual surprises that at the direct if that happens.
Speaker 3: But I don't know what to expect when it comes
Speaker 3: to like new things at the moment. When I look
Speaker 3: at a lot of companies, like the first party companies,
Speaker 3: and I look at the studios that they have on
Speaker 3: their books, a lot of them are kind of accounted
Speaker 3: for in a lot of ways, and I'm like, hmm,
Speaker 3: what else could these companies be working on, Yeah, other
Speaker 3: than like outsourced projects like Oblivion Remass or something. So
Speaker 3: you know, maybe maybe another one of those high profile
Speaker 3: remasses from one of those first party companies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like, you know now that we kind
Speaker 1: of have a pretty good sense the Acarata Time remix
Speaker 1: can happen. Nintenda probably has one other holiday game that
Speaker 1: they could surprise us with. Who knows what that would be,
Speaker 1: but or if it even is a thing, maybe it's not.
Speaker 1: But you're right when it comes to Xbox and PlayStation,
Speaker 1: I guess maybe it's similar thing where it's like maybe
Speaker 1: one surprise, but it just doesn't feel like there's a
Speaker 1: lot of capacity for a lot more than that. But
Speaker 1: again we could be surprised. Okay, then from the other
Speaker 1: perspective here of all, right, well we'll get excited about games.
Speaker 1: But these companies are going to this after a bunch
Speaker 1: of price increases, with Grand theft Auto six on the horizon.
Speaker 1: What do you think, like Microsoft and Sony need to
Speaker 1: get out a summer game fest or is this just
Speaker 1: you know, kind of business as usual.
Speaker 3: I think they need to find a way to convince
Speaker 3: anybody to keep buying this stuff at its new prices,
Speaker 3: which I wouldn't. I wouldn't buy any of these products
Speaker 3: at that increase prices because they're not worth that amount
Speaker 3: of money, like the they're not the old tech and
Speaker 3: charging more for it, Like there's in there is almost
Speaker 3: zero use cases where I would recommend somebody go out
Speaker 3: and buy a PS five, a PS five pro, any
Speaker 3: of the xboxes and like even a switch to at
Speaker 3: this point, and I'm like, it's a hard fucking recommend
Speaker 3: even though that contract, Yeah, even though it's pretty new,
Speaker 3: it's a hard recommend. And so like Xbox and PlayStation
Speaker 3: especially have a real mountain of a task to get
Speaker 3: people excited for the software, if not the hardware, because
Speaker 3: the hardware is going to slow down no matter what,
Speaker 3: and the software they can at least kind of work with,
Speaker 3: they can try to really reinvigorate people of like no, no,
Speaker 3: like you have these consoles already, what if you bought
Speaker 3: more games on them? And that when people have less money,
Speaker 3: that's also a big ask. So I genuinely I don't
Speaker 3: know how these companies go about getting people excited enough
Speaker 3: to spend money right now, because right now, nobody's excited
Speaker 3: to spend any money. Nobody wants to spend a single
Speaker 3: dollar on anything because they know that they're going to
Speaker 3: need that dollar for something down the road.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Someone point out The Verge had a story this morning
Speaker 1: about like, yeah, that's the kind of same with you
Speaker 1: were saying that they need.
Speaker 2: To prove themselves.
Speaker 1: Does that do you think that puts them in a
Speaker 1: position maybe where the Sony's and the Microsoft's, even Nintendo
Speaker 1: are going.
Speaker 2: To maybe over extend, over promise.
Speaker 1: Maybe like lift the lid of like have they they
Speaker 1: have a bucket full of games that are coming out
Speaker 1: two plus years from now, and they like pull a
Speaker 1: couple extra things out of that bucket to be like,
Speaker 1: look at how many exciting things are coming to this platform?
Speaker 2: Is there a chance for that?
Speaker 3: Both of these companies just burnt their hand by doing
Speaker 3: that recently, you know, so he announced all these live
Speaker 3: service games and then that backfired and Xbox had all
Speaker 3: their high profile cancellations of like Perfect Dark was probably
Speaker 3: meant to come out this year next year at some point,
Speaker 3: and fucking that's not happening. And that was announced way
Speaker 3: earlier because they were trying to reinvigorate and get people
Speaker 3: excited about.
Speaker 2: The brand again.
Speaker 3: So like, how many times do you make that same
Speaker 3: mistake of announcing something early and then having to counsel
Speaker 3: it and ruining any goodwill that you built up, Like
Speaker 3: I don't know, Like, yeah, I ultimately I wouldn't want
Speaker 3: to be the person who has to solve these problems.
Speaker 3: But also it's not my job to solve these problems.
Speaker 3: It's my job to like consume these products and you know,
Speaker 3: engage with them as a art form and things like that,
Speaker 3: and right now, the vibes ain't great for doing that.
Speaker 1: There was a rumor, I think over the weekend that
Speaker 1: Star Wars Eclipse is like pretty far along and could
Speaker 1: happen soon. Do you buy that. No, I mean either,
Speaker 1: why don't you buy it?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 1: Pass I saw that, I was like, I think, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I might be doing the show with Lexi Layer.
Speaker 1: I want to just kind of get her vibes on that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very similar.
Speaker 3: I was just like, Okay, I will say, like, that
Speaker 3: team doesn't seem like they scaled up properly to be
Speaker 3: a two studio team, and they just worked on a
Speaker 3: multiplayer game shutting Down.
Speaker 2: Which is now shutting Down exactly, and so that.
Speaker 3: Seemed like it was a real boondoggle for them. And
Speaker 3: so even if they were pretty close to the end
Speaker 3: of development, I'm guessing they're having to shift a lot
Speaker 3: of people and change workflows. Like I don't buy that
Speaker 3: game being super close.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, then let me get your your similar
Speaker 1: sort of reaction to just a couple of others state
Speaker 1: of the K three.
Speaker 2: Does that show up here in your opinion?
Speaker 3: I would love it too, if only because I was
Speaker 3: talking to Brad Shoemaker the other night, and literally any
Speaker 3: time I engaged with that man, I wind up going
Speaker 3: I would have stayed the the K three is coming
Speaker 3: out soon. Every time, every single time I see I
Speaker 3: listened to any of the next n of podcasts and
Speaker 3: bad talks about anything. I'm like, hu, I wonder how
Speaker 3: he'll feel about guy. Yeah. Yeah, it's his Bubbzy, which
Speaker 3: honestly way better branding than Bubbzy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a he figured it out. I fucked up
Speaker 1: somewhere along the way. Uh.
Speaker 2: I think it's time for State of the K three.
Speaker 1: Okay, Hideo Kojima's ODU.
Speaker 2: That's an interesting one.
Speaker 3: I bet Kojima would love to garner back a bit
Speaker 3: of good will after the last few weeks. So maybe
Speaker 3: he'll have something. And he makes a point of having
Speaker 3: a trailer at nearly every show at this fucking point,
Speaker 3: so or at least having something, having a having something.
Speaker 3: So if it's not od it is I bet we
Speaker 3: get confirmation of death stranding to coming to something. I
Speaker 3: know it already came to PC and they're not going
Speaker 3: to bring it to Xbox now because it's now Sony published,
Speaker 3: So I don't know. Yeah, I'm curious, but I'm sure
Speaker 3: he will find a reason to have a presence there.
Speaker 1: Judas from Kim Levin, Nope, let's see here. Do I
Speaker 1: have a couple of others? Man, there's some that like
Speaker 1: a head on the list here that like, no I know.
Speaker 3: Which Judas won't be at the show. Probably bigger than
Speaker 3: any of the other games.
Speaker 1: The most game's never been at a show ever. It's
Speaker 1: what people are saying.
Speaker 2: Everyone.
Speaker 1: All right, well, we'll have another chance to talk about
Speaker 1: this Austin guys on BombCast tomorrow what they think about
Speaker 1: some of these and maybe more. But now let's take
Speaker 1: a quick break. We have other headlines to get to,
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Speaker 1: That's Lexi Luddy. I'm Jeffrey Grubb. LEXI. I did see
Speaker 1: someone say a splinter cell. You think splinter cell shows up?
Speaker 3: I maybe you'd be soft becoming such a impossible thing
Speaker 3: to predict.
Speaker 2: Because agreed, It's like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: They have all these things in production, and any of
Speaker 3: them could be consoled no matter how far along in production,
Speaker 3: or they could just announce like we're making another Division
Speaker 3: mobile game that will never launch. Assassin's Creed Jade still
Speaker 3: hasn't come out somehow, all these different things like, I
Speaker 3: have no idea how to pin anything down with that
Speaker 3: company anymore.
Speaker 1: YEP, I feel the exact same way. All right, let's
Speaker 1: do this next one. Xbox will show PS five logos
Speaker 1: at showcase, but may just moving forward as execs publicly
Speaker 1: contradict each other. Ah, this is from Sammy Barker at
Speaker 1: Push Square, who kind of like goes over that.
Speaker 2: I think this did this come from that podcast as well?
Speaker 1: Came from Chief Content Officer Matt Boody, who said about
Speaker 1: having PlayStation and Nintendo logos in the can.
Speaker 3: I just say, but Booty having the same title as
Speaker 3: Dan very funny to me.
Speaker 2: It makes perfect sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were talking about any PlayStation logos in Xbox showcases.
Speaker 2: That's weird.
Speaker 1: And he says, well, we'll be very clear about what
Speaker 1: platforms a game is coming to and want to continue
Speaker 1: that precedent. I think we've got a good system going
Speaker 1: where we make it clear in the showcase then later
Speaker 1: separately and as.
Speaker 2: They write over here at push Square.
Speaker 1: In a genuinely bizarre twist, new Xbox CEO Asha Sharma
Speaker 1: has completely contradicted colleague Matt Booty's comments earlier in the day, describing.
Speaker 2: Them as a miss.
Speaker 1: Booty had said during an Xbox podcast that Microsoft would
Speaker 1: be very clear about which platforms games are coming to,
Speaker 1: and that it wants to continue the precedent it's set previously.
Speaker 1: This means if a game is coming to the PS five,
Speaker 1: Microsoft won't obfuscate that information.
Speaker 2: Sony.
Speaker 1: Nintendo only ever talk about their own platform during live streams,
Speaker 1: but they generally haven't flirted with multi format publishing to
Speaker 1: the extent Microsoft has. Responding to the aggrieved of fans
Speaker 1: on Twitter, which is just a good thing to do
Speaker 1: with your job. That's a good time way to spend
Speaker 1: your time. Sharma described that as a miss, saying seeing
Speaker 1: the feedback on logos, it was a miss, and I
Speaker 1: own it. We are talking about how we adjust for
Speaker 1: future Xbox shows. I'm not entirely convince Sharma should be
Speaker 1: following the feedback of a few fans on social media
Speaker 1: to quite this extent, but here we are. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's kind of what we're all thinking a little bit.
Speaker 1: Look to me, this is a very stupid thing because
Speaker 1: this is just not anything that matters and it's it's
Speaker 1: kind of aside to the conversation like are these games
Speaker 1: coming to PlayStation or not? And if they are, what
Speaker 1: the fuck does it matter If the logos in there
Speaker 1: in the Xbox showcase, that's a series of commercials, not
Speaker 1: the content itself.
Speaker 2: So people don't.
Speaker 3: Put in the press release anyway, You're.
Speaker 1: Gonna have to put it on the press It's gonna
Speaker 1: be on the Wikipedia page.
Speaker 2: It's going to be a fact that just exists.
Speaker 1: Like this is just like so far downstream from the
Speaker 1: thing that actually matters, and it's it just does not
Speaker 1: seem like they've clicked over to be like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: and now these games aren't coming to PlayStation. It is
Speaker 1: more like no Halo campaign evolves coming to PlayStation.
Speaker 2: Five, but we might not just tell you about it?
Speaker 2: What talking about? How do you read this?
Speaker 3: I know this new Xbox administration seems so desperate for
Speaker 3: goodwill in a way that I can't help but just
Speaker 3: be like, have some fucking self respect.
Speaker 2: Come on.
Speaker 3: Even if I have my problems with the Xbox brand
Speaker 3: and Microsoft as an ecosystem, and I've made those pretty
Speaker 3: clear over the years, I at least don't want you
Speaker 3: embarrassing yourself like this on a personal level, Like you
Speaker 3: don't need to be replying to Xbox poon Gamer twenty
Speaker 3: four every time he puts out Yeah, every time he
Speaker 3: puts out a post on Twitter being like I'm mad
Speaker 3: that they're not bringing back Fusion Frenzy, and they're like,
Speaker 3: we hear you, and you understand them. We're bringing back
Speaker 3: Fusion Frenzy, and you know it just it's it is.
Speaker 3: It gives off such a desperate vibe compared to weird
Speaker 3: how they should be acting right now, and also like,
Speaker 3: what are the few things that people actually want from
Speaker 3: a new Xbox administration change? And it seems like every
Speaker 3: single administration of Xbox has struggled with this is clarishy
Speaker 3: and message like, it's straight up it's going back to
Speaker 3: the days of executives giving different answers at the Xbox
Speaker 3: One revel of like what do you mean these two
Speaker 3: totally opposite things are apparently true? What the fuck you
Speaker 3: talking about? It just seems so disconnected and it doesn't
Speaker 3: bode well for them, and it doesn't look good for
Speaker 3: them on any level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And to me, it gives the sense that they
Speaker 1: are saying these things while internally figuring out answers to
Speaker 1: a lot of their questions that will be very different
Speaker 1: and that this stuff just doesn't actually matter to the
Speaker 1: reality of the decision making process that is actually going
Speaker 1: to happen once things settle down and they get you know,
Speaker 1: data to make decisions based off of and money to
Speaker 1: make decisions off of, Like, hey, we'll make more money
Speaker 1: if we do it this way, Well, then fuck Xbox.
Speaker 2: Poom Game or sixty nine or whatever their name was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just like feels like a way to kind
Speaker 1: of keep the vibes good while they.
Speaker 2: Come up with the real solutions, which will have nothing
Speaker 2: to do with any of this.
Speaker 3: Some of the knee jerkiness seems so strange to me
Speaker 3: because they're going to have to change it again for
Speaker 3: the new Xbox if it is truly an open Windows machine,
Speaker 3: Like you think about the game pass tiers that they've added,
Speaker 3: how will how will that make Like they still have
Speaker 3: Xbox Gold in some way, they still you still have
Speaker 3: to pay to play online on Xbox. And if this
Speaker 3: thing is this new thing is just a PC that
Speaker 3: you can boost into Windows, will you be finding a
Speaker 3: way to charge me to play online with my Windows computer?
Speaker 3: Because that would be fucking nuts. So yeah, like there's
Speaker 3: actual legitimate questions that need answering, and turns out these
Speaker 3: aren't one of them.
Speaker 1: Yep, it's uh and yeah, and we don't really know
Speaker 1: to what extent it's going to be open or not.
Speaker 1: But if Steam and Epic Game Store are on there,
Speaker 1: that's open enough. I guess maybe it could just be
Speaker 1: a then lexi where it's like, oh, activate your Steam
Speaker 1: account on here, and then if you own the games
Speaker 1: on Steam, you can play them on here. There's some
Speaker 1: sort of like expanded play anywhere, and that's what it
Speaker 1: looks like.
Speaker 2: But if I don't know, that's not I don't know,
Speaker 2: that's not excite.
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's just weird. Yeah, but that's not
Speaker 1: really what they were kind of promising early on.
Speaker 2: We'll see. Well, we're not going to see it at
Speaker 2: Summer Game Fest.
Speaker 1: They said they will not be talking about Project Helix
Speaker 1: at this event, and yeah, that makes sense, all right.
Speaker 1: Call of Duty Modern Warfare four promises no more clowney skins.
Speaker 1: This is from Kenneth Shepherd at Kotaku bea uh huh.
Speaker 1: Modern Warfare for is coming out later this year, and
Speaker 1: despite the series ostensibly being a very serious military shooter.
Speaker 1: It's multiplayer modes, like those of many other shooters in
Speaker 1: the modern age, have become a dumping ground for crossover
Speaker 1: skins and other goofy nonsense over the years. However, Activision
Speaker 1: and Infinity Ward are saying up front that they won't
Speaker 1: be including any clowny skins in the upcoming game, and
Speaker 1: that we can keep the receipts in case they changed
Speaker 1: their tune a few months after launch. Modern Warfare four
Speaker 1: was officially unveiled last week, and the messaging has been
Speaker 1: that Infinity word once this year's Call of Duty to
Speaker 1: be more grounded. Boots on the Ground is back everybody
Speaker 1: and anchored in the game's narrative. Despite this, fans and
Speaker 1: detractors are skeptical given that Call of Duty has become
Speaker 1: another victim of the fortnitification of shooters full of out
Speaker 1: of place crossover skins like animated characters Beavis and butt Heead.
Speaker 1: The team has responded to these concerns on Twitter, swearing
Speaker 1: up and down that Modern Warfare four won't include any
Speaker 1: of that noise at launch or in seasons beyond, as
Speaker 1: well as specifying there will be no skins for Lady Gaga,
Speaker 1: Omni Man, Teletubbies, or SpongeBob.
Speaker 2: Down the line. It's worth noting that Call.
Speaker 1: Of Duty has previously tried to exercise some of these
Speaker 1: crossover skins from future entries by not letting skins carry
Speaker 1: over from Black Ops six to last year's What Black
Speaker 1: Ops seven, citing negative player feedback as a key factor. Also,
Speaker 1: it would encourage people to buy new skins, like that's
Speaker 1: maybe the real reason. Okay, man, I saw a post
Speaker 1: of this on maybe like was a r slash gaming
Speaker 1: or something like that.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was the Call of Duty subreddit, I don't know, and.
Speaker 1: It was like a realistic cat, like anthropomorphic cat, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, that looks pretty dope. The comments are just
Speaker 1: like never in my Call of Duty gets so serious
Speaker 1: and I just look, I get that some people want
Speaker 1: to be immersed, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't get immersed because I'm just different.
Speaker 1: I think it's fun that SpongeBob is in these games,
Speaker 1: and it does not detract me if I see as
Speaker 1: someone else in a skinned, or does not detract from
Speaker 1: my fun. If I see someone else in a skin
Speaker 1: that I don't personally enjoy, and I just just feels
Speaker 1: like this fan, and I'm going like, we gotta shrink
Speaker 1: it down and keep all that stuff out because that's
Speaker 1: fun and we don't allow that here. I know it's more,
Speaker 1: there's more to it than that, but I just kind
Speaker 1: of got I get a bad vibes from this whole thing, Lexie,
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 3: So something that always comes up with this is like, oh,
Speaker 3: why don't these people just go play armor or go
Speaker 3: play an actual taxing of some kind. And I would
Speaker 3: love to see like the scientific study or the paper
Speaker 3: rission about the people who call for realism in their
Speaker 3: arcade shooters and the psychology behind that, because listen, not
Speaker 3: to get on a high horse or anything. There's like
Speaker 3: a whole like politics element to this that I think
Speaker 3: is very fascinating to me if it's start analyzing it
Speaker 3: too much. But from a more lighthearted point of view,
Speaker 3: I'll just say I came up with the drinking game
Speaker 3: to kill myself during SGF, and I posted on Blue
Speaker 3: Sky it's take a shot time someone at Microsoft Activision
Speaker 3: in orn finishing ward says the word grishy or grounded,
Speaker 3: ground and take and takes two shots. If they say viscible, yep.
Speaker 2: You're gonna die.
Speaker 1: You're gonna die, because that's all they're gonna be saying
Speaker 1: about this game.
Speaker 2: It is like they.
Speaker 3: Won't say boots on the ground because we made fun
Speaker 3: of that too much.
Speaker 1: Exactly now that these are all but these are all
Speaker 1: code words for that same exact feeling. And you know
Speaker 1: that that's called duty has been around long enough that
Speaker 1: we can spot these patterns. There was backlash to the
Speaker 1: last call of Duty. They're the fandom now has their
Speaker 1: opinion on anything that is not just very strictly called
Speaker 1: duty modern warfare from two thousand and seven, and they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: anything that sort of returns it back to that default
Speaker 1: state is a return to the safe thing here, and
Speaker 1: that will keep this fandom at least from tearing us apart.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'll make my pitch here while I'm on the show.
Speaker 3: If you'll have used that, I sh let me review
Speaker 3: this game. I would be the last one, yep.
Speaker 1: I well, yeah, I just think that they will probably
Speaker 1: turn change their mind on this, if not with this game,
Speaker 1: with the next one. So and I don't know, if
Speaker 1: you're a fan of these games, just get over it.
Speaker 1: That's all I can really say. Again, I know I'm
Speaker 1: not being very considerate there, but I think you're right.
Speaker 1: I think my sort of backlash is I could see
Speaker 1: through it with a lot of them where it's like,
Speaker 1: I think what you really mean is it also wouldn't
Speaker 1: accept women in this game and anyone that kind of
Speaker 1: looks different than your idea of a very masculine, macho,
Speaker 1: big guy, tough guy.
Speaker 2: It's I do miss me with that shit.
Speaker 3: Setting your watch to k pop popping off five years ago,
Speaker 3: and now this college game being all about Kuya is like, oh, guys,
Speaker 3: like we know that you just do whatever's pop, but like,
Speaker 3: come on, I'm also listen that for the stylization of
Speaker 3: the slightly Asian looking for is one of the funniest
Speaker 3: fucking things of like how do we make it look Molasian?
Speaker 1: And right, the meetings that must have gone into that, Like, oo,
Speaker 1: I'm glad I wasn't in the room for those.
Speaker 2: I probably would have my head would have exploded. All right,
Speaker 2: Let's keep going here.
Speaker 1: Hollow Night's Silksong physical edition announced for PS five, Xbox
Speaker 1: Series X and S and Switch to This is from
Speaker 1: sal Ramano at Kamatsu. Fangamer has announced a physical edition
Speaker 1: of Hollow Night Silk Song for PS five, Xbox, and Switch.
Speaker 1: It will launch on October sixteenth for thirty nine dollars
Speaker 1: on PlayStation five and Xbox Series and forty five dollars
Speaker 1: on switch To. Pre Orders are available now. The package
Speaker 1: includes a copy of the game, a reversible cover sheet,
Speaker 1: a thirty two page game manual, and many folded poster.
Speaker 1: The upcoming expansion See of Sorrow is not included on
Speaker 1: the disc slash cart, but will be available as a
Speaker 1: free download when it launches. Additionally, fangamer has open pre
Speaker 1: orders for physical editions of the original Hollownight on PlayStation
Speaker 1: five and switch To for thirty five dollars and thirty
Speaker 1: nine dollars respectively. These also include reversible cover sheet, twenty
Speaker 1: eight page game manual, and a poster. I think the
Speaker 1: Switch version I want to say that physical editions were
Speaker 1: previously released on PlayStation four and Switch. I think got
Speaker 1: Switch version is going to be the original game again,
Speaker 1: but with an option to upgrade it to the switch
Speaker 1: To if you choose to do so, so you could
Speaker 1: get this and have both versions. And if you want
Speaker 1: to have a switch To version, you only have SWITCHT
Speaker 1: one right now, you could just get this and you'll
Speaker 1: be good. But I'm not seeing that in this story,
Speaker 1: so maybe that's not exactly how it's going to work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is how these things go these days, Alexi. Where
Speaker 1: And I think this is kind of a blueprint for
Speaker 1: what we're going to see a lot with the next generation.
Speaker 1: Where that, I think it's a strong chance that disk
Speaker 1: drives will be optional. Games will come out they will
Speaker 1: be digital first, and then the successful ones will get
Speaker 1: physical versions later. This is something we've seen a bunch
Speaker 1: of times now. Hollow Night's Silksong is one of those.
Speaker 1: It's like they easily could have just had a physical
Speaker 1: version at launch.
Speaker 2: It is that big.
Speaker 1: But at a certain point you go, why, you could
Speaker 1: just do it this way and it will work just
Speaker 1: as well and serve the markets probably just as effectively
Speaker 1: as if they went through the headaches of getting a
Speaker 1: physical version ready to go for.
Speaker 2: The actual launch. Anything anything more to read into.
Speaker 3: This, Uh, not too much. I think like you kind
Speaker 3: of summed up a lot of it. I think we're
Speaker 3: going to see a lot of this going forward. And
Speaker 3: I think that like ultimately, Silk Song and Hollow Night,
Speaker 3: for as much as they aren't necessarily for me. I'm
Speaker 3: glad that they are able to get their flowers like this,
Speaker 3: and they're able to have these nice additions, and they're
Speaker 3: able to put a bit of work into stuff like
Speaker 3: the manual, and you know the little flowishes that come
Speaker 3: with doing these these full launch or these later launches.
Speaker 3: Is it's nice. The one of these that I got
Speaker 3: that I really liked was the Tunic one. Oh was
Speaker 3: that was that was real good, and that also came
Speaker 3: with a little manual thing.
Speaker 1: Atari has acquired Cross the Road developer Hipster Whale, which
Speaker 1: is the name I've not heard in a while. This
Speaker 1: is from Sophie McAvoy at games industry dot biz. Atari
Speaker 1: has acquired Cross the Road developer Hipster Whale for over
Speaker 1: twenty nine million dollars, with a total potential cost of
Speaker 1: nearly forty million dollars. The deal includes an initial payment
Speaker 1: of that twenty nine point three million, comprising twenty six
Speaker 1: million in cash and three point three million in newly
Speaker 1: issued Atari ordinary shares. An additional earnout of up to
Speaker 1: ten million will be payable in cash over the next
Speaker 1: three years, depending on Hipster Whale's future performance. Atari stated
Speaker 1: it will use Australian based developer, to expand its mobile
Speaker 1: development and publishing capabilities. Hipster Whale co founder Matt Hall
Speaker 1: is expected to lead the expansion of Atari's mobile development.
Speaker 1: This is one of those stories, LEXI, where's immediately like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, this is another one where I see the vision.
Speaker 2: I just see it. It all makes sense.
Speaker 1: Atari very much steeping themselves in retro revivals, retroports.
Speaker 2: And crossing roads.
Speaker 1: As Vetro is saying, well, they did pac Man two
Speaker 1: fifty six, which is what I'm saying, which is like
Speaker 1: you could take it, Oh you know, I'm really cross
Speaker 1: the roads. This is retro in like the you know,
Speaker 1: the original definition of the word, which is take this
Speaker 1: thing and throw it back to to a previous time.
Speaker 1: And that was a modern take on Frogger and have
Speaker 1: you know, we'll kind of do like what would what
Speaker 1: would modern three D pixel graphics look like with the
Speaker 1: with the vauxels and whatnot. So yeah, I expect them
Speaker 1: to take those concepts and apply it to the entire
Speaker 1: swath of a potential properties that Atari owns and and
Speaker 1: make various mobile versions on those or mashups stuff like
Speaker 1: pac Man two fifty six, which is that idea of oh,
Speaker 1: you get to the kill screen of pac Man and
Speaker 1: now all the dirty, messed up code is chasing pac Man.
Speaker 1: You got to outrun it and say, oh, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a cool idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pongy load pongy load pong how do you make
Speaker 3: a pong across.
Speaker 1: The load pongy road would be just I wanted to,
Speaker 1: like in leave like an inchworm, the little pong paddle.
Speaker 2: I wanted to like, yeah, trying to get to a
Speaker 2: Talli hotel at the end. That's beautiful, That's that's the dream.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like Mannatari kind of continues to figure this stuff
Speaker 1: out and do interesting things, and they have done this
Speaker 1: already with PC and console stuff repeatedly and they kind
Speaker 1: of have that market on lock now, so expanding to
Speaker 1: mobile and doing something similar for a similar audience, but
Speaker 1: in that space, it's like, yeah, this is one of
Speaker 1: these teams that I think could probably do something that I.
Speaker 2: Would even be interested in.
Speaker 1: And I do think, you know, to be selfish, they
Speaker 1: should be trying to appeal to me because I'm the
Speaker 1: kind of asshole that would spend money on stuff that's
Speaker 1: like new but old, and they've kind of got me
Speaker 1: in their crosshairs here with stuff like this a SEUs
Speaker 1: announces a new rog Xbox Ally, the X twenty, with
Speaker 1: a larger o LED screen and improved controls. This is
Speaker 1: from Chris Scullion at VGC. The Xbox Ally was originally
Speaker 1: released in October twenty twenty five. It had two versions,
Speaker 1: the standard for six hundred and the X variant for
Speaker 1: one thousand. The newly released third model, or announced, i
Speaker 1: should say, the Xbox Ally X twenty is designed to
Speaker 1: celebrate twenty years of Asus's Republic of Gamers brand, and
Speaker 1: it's based on the Alix but with some tweaks. It
Speaker 1: has the same internal specs, but it now has a
Speaker 1: larger seven point four inch screen the original seven inch screen,
Speaker 1: and an O LEAD display instead of the IPS screen
Speaker 1: on the original. It also might come with let's see, yeah,
Speaker 1: the x Real R one Edition twenty gaming ar glasses,
Speaker 1: which are just like those glasses that you could put
Speaker 1: on and they have give you a display in front
Speaker 1: of you and you could just plug that into the
Speaker 1: HDMI port of the Roger Xbox Ally and play stuff
Speaker 1: like on a plane without having to look down at
Speaker 1: the screen. Okay, but man, what is this thing going
Speaker 1: to costs they have not said, Lexi, it's I mean
Speaker 1: probably talking two thousand dollars for this.
Speaker 3: Thing, right, I'm curious that they've been put in a
Speaker 3: real tough sart because also computer texts aren't at the moment.
Speaker 3: So there's a bunch of hardware getting announced and MSI
Speaker 3: just announced the claw h e x AI plus, which
Speaker 3: is a very long name for a Intel Yeah, it
Speaker 3: has the new Intel Arc integrated graphics on it and
Speaker 3: that thing. The like numbers that they're putting out are
Speaker 3: pretty impressive. Obviously those are internal benchmarks, so there's only
Speaker 3: so much you can trust them. But they said already
Speaker 3: that the price is going to be one five hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: So this thing, looking at the specs as it stands,
Speaker 3: will be significantly more expensive than a Xbox rog ally X.
Speaker 3: It will be more expensive than an Xbox ally X.
Speaker 3: But how much more expensive could this X twenty B
Speaker 3: before being more expensive then something that is more performance Fanish,
Speaker 3: I'm curious about dash, but yeah, like I don't know.
Speaker 3: The handheld gaming space is very cool to me from
Speaker 3: a tech point of view. It's very frustrating to me
Speaker 3: from the point of view of can't afford any of
Speaker 3: this shit anymore. Just this weekend I replaced the sixty
Speaker 3: four gigabytes internal SSD on my Steam deck with something
Speaker 3: that was bigger than sixty four gigabytes, and boy, that
Speaker 3: was life changing.
Speaker 2: That was real nice.
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, yeah, that you mentioned copy text the
Speaker 1: RTX Sparks super.
Speaker 2: Chip got announced.
Speaker 1: I'd never like a chance to like really go over this,
Speaker 1: but this is basically in video going, and now we
Speaker 1: make CPUs in addition to GPUs. It's like a convenient
Speaker 1: time to do that when more and more questions arising
Speaker 1: about who they're selling these GPUs to and whether people
Speaker 1: are actually going to keep buying them at these prices,
Speaker 1: and are they really watch.
Speaker 2: Any of the thing.
Speaker 3: I say it up until four am and watched the
Speaker 3: first half of it and then fell asleep with it
Speaker 3: turned on because Jensen's voice just has that soothing.
Speaker 2: Effect and it's just so so soothing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But basically the whole message of the first half
Speaker 3: of his keynote was literally like, we are not selling
Speaker 3: to consumers anymore because there's a fixed number of consumers.
Speaker 3: We're selling to agentic We're like finding we're selling to
Speaker 3: agents because there's technically an infinite number of AI agents.
Speaker 2: It's so fucking stupid. Yeah, oh my god, what are
Speaker 2: you talking about?
Speaker 3: Like listening to him talk, it was the disco sou
Speaker 3: in finish propish on disco thing of like disco sales
Speaker 3: are projected to go up forever, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: you fucking dumb ass motherfucker. Anyway, like man Jensen seems
Speaker 3: like a guy. Also one of their slides and I
Speaker 3: should you not, this is true. One of their slides
Speaker 3: when he clicked it over had to kuching sound effect.
Speaker 1: I mean, god, here's the thing is, I would love
Speaker 1: for this whole arm based in video SCPU business to
Speaker 1: work because it would put the pressure back on AMD
Speaker 1: to keep getting better.
Speaker 2: And AMD has been pretty good, but.
Speaker 3: That they're extending the lifespan of a M four and
Speaker 3: AM five.
Speaker 1: So right, and so that's that's great for people that
Speaker 1: are on those platforms, but I do want to keep
Speaker 1: them to keep pushing forward because when they do, they
Speaker 1: are usually recently the ones that can be relied upon
Speaker 1: to produce CPUs that are going to be fantastic for
Speaker 1: a very long time. Uh, but they kind of they
Speaker 1: need that competition and it was like, hopefully this is
Speaker 1: it is that, and it just doesn't feel like it
Speaker 1: when they start talking that way. This just seems like
Speaker 1: it is part of the ongoing Ponzi scheme of what
Speaker 1: they're trying to pull off with AI and this is
Speaker 1: just a new frontier and that, and it's like uh.
Speaker 3: Again, keeping up with it. I suggest go subscribing to
Speaker 3: game as Nexus.
Speaker 2: Just do it.
Speaker 3: It's very good content and very good research and some
Speaker 3: of the rare bit of genuine investigative journalism going on
Speaker 3: in that particular space.
Speaker 2: So do follow those folks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it does make me miss Gordon on a ton.
Speaker 1: He passed away recently in like the last year. He
Speaker 1: was PC a long time CPU coverage guy at PC World.
Speaker 2: And it was like the adult in the room and man,
Speaker 2: rest in peace.
Speaker 1: To that guy, Like we we are we're missing a
Speaker 1: lot of insight when we don't have guys like that anymore.
Speaker 1: And it's like games Exist is fantastic kind of carrying
Speaker 1: that torch. But he does come from that that YouTube
Speaker 1: world of like, man, we're gonna turn these big controversies
Speaker 1: into our focus and go and go and go. And
Speaker 1: I always felt like Gordon Ung was such a breath
Speaker 1: of fresh air and be like, let's just step back
Speaker 1: and like, look at this from historical perspective, and again
Speaker 1: we're just.
Speaker 2: We don't have that anymore.
Speaker 1: All right, last quick thing before we get out here
Speaker 1: and start wrapping up the show. The director of tech
Speaker 1: and eight has left Bandy Namco. Yes, the techa kohey
Speaker 1: aikeda Yeah. He left after twenty years at the company.
Speaker 1: This is after Herada left not too long ago, so
Speaker 1: it does feel like the future of tech In is
Speaker 1: a little bit more questionable there, and even was after
Speaker 1: Herada left. I don't think this is like spelling doom
Speaker 1: for that series. In fact, it might be a chance
Speaker 1: for it to kind of get refreshed in a good way.
Speaker 1: But it certainly is notable that, oh man, okay, stuff
Speaker 1: is changing over there when it comes to the future.
Speaker 2: Of tech In.
Speaker 3: All right, that does it for the headline. Lucy James
Speaker 3: just announced that she is leaving Game Spot and a
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Speaker 3: shout out to Lucy. Seems like it's something that she's
Speaker 3: partnering with kee Leon yep and player dot gg, which
Speaker 3: I'm not super familiar with, but yeah, good luck to Lucy.
Speaker 1: I will be talking to her about her future on
Speaker 1: the couch this weekend, everybody, I believe, I'm I believe.
Speaker 1: They're on on Thursday and then that's the Friends per
Speaker 1: Second crew.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, Friday.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jane. I appreciate that. Yeah, so she'll be
Speaker 1: on on Friday and we'll be talking about her future
Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to hearing about all the stuff
Speaker 1: she's got playing for y'all.
Speaker 2: What was the name of it again, Lexi, it was
Speaker 2: looking for dosh game. All right, go check it out.
Speaker 1: Everybody looking for dot game with Lucy dot James. All right,
Speaker 1: let's see here, let's start wrapping up the show. There
Speaker 1: is no poll question because we did the Bomb twelve
Speaker 1: last Friday, but we do have a new poll question.
Speaker 1: We'll get to here in a second. But in the meantime,
Speaker 1: I will be updating the Bomb twelve links so everyone
Speaker 1: can vote. We might do some of it something this week,
Speaker 1: but it'll be very like it's just an image that
Speaker 1: I post online, and if we don't then we'll kind
Speaker 1: of catch everything up the week after that, but we'll
Speaker 1: have a Bomb twelve ever there on giant bomb dot com,
Speaker 1: so you guys can keep telling us what games you're
Speaker 1: playing right now, and I'm looking forward to getting that.
Speaker 2: The new poll question will come right after this. LEXI,
Speaker 2: where can people find you on the Internet?
Speaker 3: Yeah, people can find me on blue Sky at lex
Speaker 3: dot Loody dot xyz. I'm trying to be a bit
Speaker 3: more proactive about doing some original reporting over there, so
Speaker 3: if you want to reach out, I have a signal
Speaker 3: in my profile that you can reach out to confidentially
Speaker 3: and I can talk to you. I'm also continuing to
Speaker 3: unstartman you dot co dot uk, which is a place
Speaker 3: for people trying to break into games media, and we're
Speaker 3: trying to make this space healthy and you know, persistent
Speaker 3: for a long time to come, and we're trying to
Speaker 3: train off the next generation to be smash writers and
Speaker 3: kind of like, you know, empathetically and ethically and all
Speaker 3: those good things. And you can check out some of
Speaker 3: my reviews at Game of Guides. I'm working on a
Speaker 3: Double O seven review right now. We didn't get a
Speaker 3: code until after launch, but hopefully I will have that
Speaker 3: review up sometime this week.
Speaker 1: All right, new poll question, it's already posted. I did
Speaker 1: an image pull, so I just ad made it easy
Speaker 1: for you. Jan What are your hype levels for Summer
Speaker 1: game Fest? Your four options are kind of amused, Mike
Speaker 1: Manatti just a kind of face plane, then a pretty
Speaker 1: happy Janet Choba, then a very happy Jeff grub or
Speaker 1: an ecstatic Dan roh Riiker. I can only have four options,
Speaker 1: so I couldn't fit. I want nothing to do with
Speaker 1: this shit Jeff Baklar in there, but maybe we'll find
Speaker 1: a use for that.
Speaker 2: After this is all said.
Speaker 1: And done, go ahead and vote now, get the results.
Speaker 1: We'll kind of just see it on there. Maybe I'll
Speaker 1: bring it up on the BombCast tomorrow or something because
Speaker 1: we won't have another mornings until we get back from SGF. Everybody,
Speaker 1: I appreciate everyone rolling with the punch. Is when the
Speaker 1: schedule goes like this, you know, I know how important
Speaker 1: is to have a show like this be consistent, and
Speaker 1: we're a small team. Sometimes that's just gonna be hard
Speaker 1: when we have to shift gears and be like we're
Speaker 1: going to SGF to do coverage there and do cool
Speaker 1: stuff there. This is just what that means sometimes. So
Speaker 1: thanks everybody for being so understanding. It kind of makes
Speaker 1: me feel a little bit less stressed out when I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: people are going to be mad that there's not something
Speaker 1: in their feed that never happens.
Speaker 2: You all are very cool about it.
Speaker 3: Also, one very small thing I forgot to say during
Speaker 3: the show, suck Bog and Dix of ALLNet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go to hell man, what a just making everything
Speaker 1: that's worse even worse. That's your one contribution, val on
Speaker 1: that way to go. All right, let's see here we
Speaker 1: have the BombCast tomorrow, we will be talking over the
Speaker 1: Sony PlayStation state of play. After that, then on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: almost the entire crew is traveling, so we're going to
Speaker 1: be heading out to La Thursday, we're gonna be setting
Speaker 1: stuff up. We might have a couple things popping up
Speaker 1: here or there, but it will be infrequent. Until Friday,
Speaker 1: we will be talking over Summer Game Fest, and then
Speaker 1: very quickly after that we're gonna be set up to
Speaker 1: do our thing for GB at night, starting at six
Speaker 1: pm Pacific, that'll be nine pm Eastern. We'll be going
Speaker 1: into the night and then the same schedule will be
Speaker 1: happening on Saturday. Sunday, we'll be talking over the Xbox Show.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a ton of fun. I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to getting out there and doing some work. Everybody, So
Speaker 1: thank you for study, thank you for watching, thank you
Speaker 1: for tuning in for all that when we make it happen.
Speaker 1: And thank you Lexi franging that with me today and
Speaker 1: talking about video games. I really appreciate.
Speaker 3: It anytime, always a pleasure club.
Speaker 1: Thank you all for watching and listening. You're the best
Speaker 1: audience in gaming. Until next time, have a good one,
Speaker 1: take care of yourself and goodbye.