WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.400 Hey, everybody, welcome to Game Mess Mornings with Me Jeff Grubb, 2 00:00:11.560 --> 00:00:14.000 your host from giant bomb dot com. Thank you for 3 00:00:14.039 --> 00:00:16.239 tuning in. In this episode, we're going to be talking 4 00:00:16.239 --> 00:00:19.359 about the biggest game game yet that is getting delayed 5 00:00:19.359 --> 00:00:21.640 to Dodge Grand Theft out of six, and what to 6 00:00:21.800 --> 00:00:24.079 expect from Summer Game Fest, which is going to put 7 00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:26.160 us out a commission on the show for the rest 8 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:28.519 of the week after today's show, everybody, so let's make 9 00:00:28.519 --> 00:00:31.320 it a good one, which it will be because we 10 00:00:31.399 --> 00:00:32.799 have lex Luddy on the show. 11 00:00:32.880 --> 00:00:35.960 Lexie, how are you doing. I'm not doing too bad. 12 00:00:36.079 --> 00:00:39.960 I'm celebrating two family birthdays at the moment. My brother 13 00:00:40.119 --> 00:00:44.560 was yesterday, my mom's today, So shout outs to them. 14 00:00:44.799 --> 00:00:46.079 It's been nice. 15 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:48.679 To hang out with those folks and they're pretty great. 16 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:50.359 So happy birthday to them. 17 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:56.079 All right, excellent? Yeah, happy birthday the extended Luddy family. Yeah, 18 00:00:56.079 --> 00:00:59.240 that's fantastic. When you said you had two family birthdays, like, 19 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:02.159 talk about your two families, your family and your secret family. 20 00:01:02.320 --> 00:01:02.920 Yeah, my family. 21 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:05.319 I'm a secret Fanily my secret family is Giant Bomb. 22 00:01:05.319 --> 00:01:07.239 I was talking about turbohmp oh. 23 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:10.040 Yeah, happy birthday again to Turbot Shan's his birthday every week. 24 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:13.840 Absolutely, Can I tell you that I really upset Turbo 25 00:01:13.920 --> 00:01:14.719 Shan this weekend? 26 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:20.000 No, what I mean, it's not hard to do, But 27 00:01:20.319 --> 00:01:20.799 what do you do? 28 00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:24.599 I recommend I noticed his first time out at SGEF, 29 00:01:24.799 --> 00:01:29.719 and he'll be experiencing the wonders of the Kiwi food 30 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:32.400 that they provide. They provide you the tickets, and you know, 31 00:01:32.480 --> 00:01:34.480 you go up and you're like, I want a burrito 32 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:36.480 and they give you a burrito a lot. I want 33 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:40.400 a sonic milk thing and they give you a sonic 34 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:41.519 milk thing or whatever. 35 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:44.760 The rfk's inverted pyramid. Yeah, that's what you're describing. 36 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:49.879 Yeah, And so I told him to order the Lexi Special, 37 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:52.079 which is what I got one of the days that 38 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:55.920 I was at SGF, where I think they misunderstood either 39 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:59.040 my accent or what I said, or they just looked 40 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:01.000 at how white I will and were like, this is 41 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:03.519 what you actually want? And they gave me a Bali 42 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:06.480 show with nothing but rice and salt setish. 43 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:09.319 Okay, Yeah, that's uh. 44 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:13.159 Yeah that we we coined boys salad with nachos. That's 45 00:02:13.199 --> 00:02:16.639 a whole other kind of of just alternative food there. 46 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:17.560 Yeah. 47 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:21.479 Look they are doing their best. 48 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:24.680 I was like, I wasn't gonna complain and I ate 49 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:29.280 the whole thing because I was fucking hungry. And Sean 50 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:32.680 was like this, this goes against my culture. And I 51 00:02:32.680 --> 00:02:34.240 had to break it to him, like, but the other 52 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:36.680 half your culture, it's deeply in tune. 53 00:02:36.439 --> 00:02:39.479 With Yeah, okay, and that's what upset and yeah, that'll 54 00:02:39.479 --> 00:02:40.520 do it. Yeah. 55 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:43.319 Uh yeah, he's a he's proud that he can handle 56 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:46.319 that Mexican food for sure, handle it, of course he can. 57 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:49.639 But you really, uh, you've kind of just knocked me 58 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:51.759 off my my moors over here because I can't stop 59 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:54.719 thinking about Sonic being milked now and that's what they're 60 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:59.520 serving at SGF. Keiley insist on it. That's a disgusting image. 61 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:01.360 They just won't go away, and I'm ruined. 62 00:03:02.199 --> 00:03:02.560 All right. 63 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:05.800 Actually, SGF is coming up. I know, I know you're 64 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:09.400 not coming this year. Good don't come to the United States. 65 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:12.879 Don't do it this year. But we got plans to 66 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:17.520 like just kick back at home, watch everything comment online. 67 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:18.719 What are your plans? 68 00:03:18.960 --> 00:03:21.879 Yeah, Honestly, the main problem with not going is that 69 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:23.560 everything's on at like two am. 70 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:25.039 I'm a Giant Bomb. 71 00:03:24.919 --> 00:03:28.240 Live show starts at like four am for me, so 72 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:30.520 I will try to be around and awake for at 73 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:34.280 least some of those things. I will try to be 74 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:36.599 in chat when GB at Night is on for at 75 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:39.879 least some of it. But I will also be trying 76 00:03:39.879 --> 00:03:41.680 to get a little bit asleep because I've been a 77 00:03:41.719 --> 00:03:44.439 little bit sick the last few weekends. 78 00:03:44.479 --> 00:03:46.759 So I recover on West. 79 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:51.039 But yeah, I'm actually going up to Dublin Wednesday to 80 00:03:51.039 --> 00:03:53.560 meet up with some game developers, so that'll be nice. 81 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:57.840 But yeah, it's it's weird not going. But also, yeah, 82 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:00.639 you couldn't make me go to the US right now 83 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:01.439 if you tried. 84 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:05.199 Yep, yep, smart. We'll try to get things figured out. 85 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:09.080 Oh if here so everyone can return one day, we'll see. 86 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:09.719 You know. 87 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:13.479 We're also doing our best, which isn't very good. All right, 88 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:16.319 let's explain ourselves. 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That 107 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:08.439 includes breaking news and maybe even some of our own 108 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:11.399 original reporting for all these topics, I'll get the input 109 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:14.120 of a bona fide expert who will make me look smart. 110 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:17.600 If you are watching live on Twitch welcome, You could 111 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:19.959 always listen to the show later on podcast feeds by 112 00:05:19.959 --> 00:05:23.240 searching for game Mes Mornings, or find the RSS feed 113 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:26.040 on giant bomb dot com. You can also catch the 114 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:30.879 show later with chapters and timestamps on YouTube Hello YouTube 115 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:32.399 All right, we have a lot to get into, so 116 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:35.079 let's start the morning mess with that news that broke 117 00:05:35.160 --> 00:05:38.720 late last week. Fable delayed to February twenty twenty seven. 118 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:43.399 Xbox has confirmed this is from Adam Hale's at Windows Central. 119 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:48.160 Despite numerous affirmations that Fable was indeed coming this year, 120 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:52.399 Matt Boody has unfortunately confirmed in a new Xbox podcast 121 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:56.240 that the game has been delayed. In the podcast, Booty States, 122 00:05:56.680 --> 00:05:58.839 we talked about Forts Horizon six and how the team 123 00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:02.879 at Playground is doing well, also doing really well on Fable. 124 00:06:02.959 --> 00:06:05.399 The game is in great shape. Team feels really good. 125 00:06:05.439 --> 00:06:06.480 We're excited about. 126 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:07.079 Where the game is. 127 00:06:07.600 --> 00:06:09.040 We want to make sure that the game has a 128 00:06:09.079 --> 00:06:11.519 window all its own, so we are going to move 129 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:15.199 it from this fall to February, and again, we really 130 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:17.040 just want to want it to have its own moment 131 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:19.720 to shine. And related to Fable, we will be seeing 132 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:21.399 more of it in the showcase, so we're going to 133 00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:23.240 have plenty of people to see people to see it 134 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:26.240 or whatever. Blah blah blah. Okay, yeah, I mean this 135 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:29.839 one just felt like, I'll tell you what, when this 136 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:35.879 got announced, more people than ever. I think we're saying Hey, cool, good. Yeah, 137 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:37.920 not just like, oh, this game needs more time. 138 00:06:37.959 --> 00:06:38.879 It's beyond that. Now. 139 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:41.240 I think everyone's like they're not even saying they need 140 00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:43.600 more time. They're just saying they want to give it 141 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:46.560 a chance to succeed away from Grand Theft Auto six. 142 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:49.439 And then I think a lot of people who were saying, oh, good, yeah, 143 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:51.879 put it to next year are saying, yeah, even if 144 00:06:51.879 --> 00:06:54.160 I don't care about Grand Theft Auto six, I have 145 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:58.040 five to six other games that I'm going to be 146 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:01.040 playing in that timeframe anyhow, I don't another one or 147 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:04.079 coming along late in the year to add to that pile. 148 00:07:05.040 --> 00:07:07.720 You know that pile's not going to go anyway, go 149 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:10.639 away magically on December thirty first. But still, this does 150 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:13.439 feel like it's a good move for a game that 151 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:16.920 seemed like it was destined to come out after Grand 152 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:19.720 Theft Auto in that inn those few weeks between that 153 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:22.560 and Christmas, and it probably just wasn't going to be 154 00:07:22.600 --> 00:07:23.560 very good for Fable, right. 155 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:24.800 Yeah. 156 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:29.600 Xbox, despite being a company which exclusively seems to operate 157 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:33.160 on not learning lessons, surely must have learned some lessons 158 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:37.120 from the back to back soft sales of Avowed and 159 00:07:37.319 --> 00:07:39.720 Outer Worlds because both of those games. 160 00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:43.240 That's December or whatever it was. Yeah, all of. 161 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:45.040 Those games did not sell as well as they like 162 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:46.920 probably should have when you look at them. Out of 163 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:49.639 Worlds in particular, they had the whole fucking stuff with 164 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:52.639 trying to raise that thing's plice to eighty dollars, which 165 00:07:52.720 --> 00:07:55.399 was just fucking nuts that they tried to make that 166 00:07:55.560 --> 00:07:56.759 the game that they did that with. 167 00:07:56.839 --> 00:07:57.680 First. 168 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:02.839 Yeah, I mean, did you watch any of this podcast? 169 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:05.000 No, it's weird. 170 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:07.120 It's like a twelve minute podcast, which I get there. 171 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:10.079 Of course they're gonna highly edit hush, but like there's 172 00:08:10.120 --> 00:08:12.879 about a minute of the podcast dedicated to like, hey, 173 00:08:12.920 --> 00:08:13.879 mat So, how you doing. 174 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:18.519 I don't, I don't care. I really don't. I really 175 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:21.319 don't about the booty. 176 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:25.160 You're right, they should rename the podcast. They should only 177 00:08:25.199 --> 00:08:27.399 talk about how Mad is doing and rename the podcast 178 00:08:27.399 --> 00:08:30.879 Booty Call. Yeah, that would when I would actually listen 179 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:31.160 to it. 180 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:31.920 Uh huh. 181 00:08:31.959 --> 00:08:35.519 But this scene, like they have a busy enough schedule 182 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:37.879 for the end of this year, and like you look 183 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:40.679 at it, it's not even just Xbox games, it's third 184 00:08:40.679 --> 00:08:43.519 party games where that they're competing against. It will be 185 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:45.240 one thing if it was Xbox games, and they could 186 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:48.720 shuffle those around, you know, a bit more as they want. 187 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:51.120 But some of these games they just can't move. You 188 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:54.320 have they mentioned Control Residence, I was gonnac To Race 189 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:57.240 alongside Plant Theft Auto six. I don't really think those 190 00:08:57.279 --> 00:09:00.440 are like necessarily the biggest hitters in the world, but 191 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:02.960 there's still stuff that they have to move around that 192 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:06.440 they can't move themselves. And if there was one of 193 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:08.879 these games which I bet could do with as much 194 00:09:08.919 --> 00:09:12.440 time as possible, it is that Fable game. And also, 195 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:17.240 like I think an early twenty twenty seven like that 196 00:09:17.360 --> 00:09:20.960 kind of Capcom Zone suits Fabled pretty well. When it's 197 00:09:21.039 --> 00:09:23.679 quiet and people have come off of Game of the 198 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:27.279 Year and people are excited about like playing games again, 199 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:29.960 and the ki Le's have just happened, and Christmas has 200 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:32.759 just happened, and people are excited about like what games 201 00:09:32.759 --> 00:09:34.960 can be and all of this. Like there's some amount 202 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:37.799 of positive feeling towards the game's industry in January and 203 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:41.480 February nowadays every year. So I think that kind of 204 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:44.279 window makes sense for them for if they want to 205 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:48.000 put out a big game that people it's in a 206 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:50.120 franchise that hasn't been around for a while, so anyone 207 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:52.200 buying it will feel like they are taking a risk 208 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:54.320 by buying it. They feel like, you know, I don't 209 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:55.720 know what this is going to be, if it's going 210 00:09:55.759 --> 00:09:58.360 to be good or ash, and so it makes sense, 211 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:01.879 but like I don't know, Well, all of. 212 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:02.879 The seems. 213 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:09.360 Very predictable, and like, yeah, of course, yeah, it's not surprising. 214 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:11.759 Yeah, I mean, you know, a few weeks back, I 215 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:13.440 was here in all the games being delayed till later 216 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:15.879 in twenty twenty six, and I just I couldn't help you, 217 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:18.840 Like'm probably gonna get delayed to twenty twenty seven, right, 218 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:20.320 because it's just like, as soon as you hear that, 219 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:22.679 I think everyone had the same thoughts. So it wasn't 220 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:26.039 some spectacular prediction. It was just like, yeah, I mean 221 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:29.480 later in the year. It's already saying autumn. Later would 222 00:10:29.519 --> 00:10:33.559 mean November or December. Well we all know, no know 223 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:35.639 when God's Green Earth? Was this thing going to come 224 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:38.200 out around Grand Theft Auto six, So it just meant December. 225 00:10:38.440 --> 00:10:41.559 And once you're in December, what's the difference between December 226 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:45.399 and January February. There's one difference. It's like you can 227 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:47.399 be before Christmas. But we just we see that that 228 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:51.039 doesn't mean a lot always for December releases. Sometimes it does, 229 00:10:51.080 --> 00:10:51.960 sometimes it doesn't. 230 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:54.879 If you're not not help Indiana Jones, you know, it. 231 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:55.960 Didn't, Yeah, not really. 232 00:10:55.960 --> 00:10:58.440 And it's like if you aren't before Black Friday, like 233 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:01.000 it's like, yeah, you kind of you already missed one 234 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:04.480 of the bigger boats. So yeah, pretty easy to kind 235 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:06.440 of put two and two together there and now here 236 00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:08.799 we are. You know, people are like maybe a little 237 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:12.720 annoyed because right after I was saying that, the studio 238 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:14.200 was saying, hey, you're gonna no, you're gonna get to 239 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:16.279 play this game in autumn. It's like, yeah, I bet 240 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:19.559 that still was the plan up until very recently. And 241 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:22.000 now they get to move and get its own window 242 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:23.919 and the game gets a little bit more time in 243 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:26.360 the oven, which which just can't hurt these days. Every 244 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:29.000 game that seems to like really seem to help out Bond, Right, 245 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:33.559 Double seven got an extra six six ish months in 246 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:36.000 the Oven, and that game came out much more refined 247 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:37.080 than I was expecting. 248 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:42.559 So yeah, and considering how hot that game came in also, yes, right, 249 00:11:42.600 --> 00:11:45.759 it seems like they were actively using that time, and 250 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:49.919 like unless you're playing on if you're not playing on PC, 251 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:53.600 you might not know this. There's like PC graphic settings, 252 00:11:53.639 --> 00:11:56.320 including path tracing that they're like, yeah, we're gonna add 253 00:11:56.320 --> 00:12:00.559 that in a month's time. So that's how short Runway 254 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:02.960 was was they literally ran out a runway for certain 255 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:05.799 features which they've been using in the marketing, you know, 256 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:09.600 like path tracing was a big in Vidia co marketing 257 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:13.080 point that they were talking about with this game. So like, yeah, 258 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:17.360 that and again, that game gave off the vibe of 259 00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:20.080 if we delay out of the date that we have 260 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:22.919 right now, we may as well delay it to twenty 261 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:25.159 twenty seven. And in Io's case, I don't think they 262 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:27.639 could have done that because they're an independent studio. 263 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:29.039 And already space. 264 00:12:29.440 --> 00:12:33.080 So yeah, I mean, we just heard from a reporter, 265 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:35.399 like I think a news report from the country of 266 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:36.399 origin which I can't remember. 267 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:38.360 Is it that? Are they in Denmark? I can't remember. 268 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:38.879 I'm sorry. 269 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:41.799 They were saying that game seven years, two hundred million 270 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:44.759 dollars and so yeah, okay, well I'm glad it's doing 271 00:12:44.879 --> 00:12:47.440 very well. But man, that's just what games are these days, 272 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:50.639 and you know, Microsoft can afford it and it's like, 273 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:51.960 you know, you do the math and it's like. 274 00:12:51.919 --> 00:12:53.840 Ah, yeah, yeah, we'll delay it. Every day. 275 00:12:53.960 --> 00:12:55.960 Delay it is a delay that costs us is a 276 00:12:56.039 --> 00:12:57.720 day that costs more money. You know, we got to 277 00:12:57.759 --> 00:12:59.840 pay the studio. We're not making any money on it, 278 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:03.200 but not being next to Grand Theft Auto six sort 279 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:07.240 of pays for itself in some ways. All right, let's 280 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:11.840 shift gears over here to US legislation. In California, a 281 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:14.559 US bill that would keep games playable after being shut 282 00:13:14.600 --> 00:13:18.240 down passes its first vote. This is from Elijah Gonzalez 283 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:22.720 at Polygon. The Stop Killing gamesment movement is finally starting 284 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:25.720 to gain traction in the United States. The California Assembly 285 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:30.320 recently passed the Protect Our Games Act by a bipartisan 286 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:33.000 vote of forty three to sixteen. With the bill having 287 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:37.320 passed the California's legislative branch, which is the state equivalent 288 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:40.840 of Congress, it will move to the state Senate for 289 00:13:40.919 --> 00:13:45.000 a committee debate in June. The Stop Killing Games movements 290 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:47.960 YouTube page offered the following description of what the legislation 291 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:51.120 would mean. The bill would require video game companies to 292 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:55.840 give players advanced notice before shutting down server dependent games 293 00:13:56.159 --> 00:13:59.000 and provide a way to keep purchase games playable afterward, 294 00:13:59.159 --> 00:14:03.720 such as offline access, community servers, or another workable option. 295 00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:06.000 It should be noted that this would only apply to 296 00:14:06.039 --> 00:14:08.919 purchase games, meaning free to play titles seemingly wouldn't fall 297 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:11.320 under the legislation. If it were to pass, it would 298 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:14.279 appear it would only apply to games released after January 299 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:17.679 twenty twenty seven. Simply Member Chris Ward from San Diego 300 00:14:17.720 --> 00:14:20.159 announced the news, explaining that the bill is fighting for 301 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:25.559 your consumer protection and full right and enjoyment of these games. Yeah, 302 00:14:25.759 --> 00:14:28.279 this continues to me to be like when I hear 303 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:31.480 the industry go, oh, this is untenable, it's unworkable, and 304 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:34.919 saying nothing about it sounds that way to me. I'm 305 00:14:34.919 --> 00:14:37.519 sure it sounds like it might cost you a little 306 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:40.080 bit extra, but honestly, what it sounds like it will 307 00:14:40.519 --> 00:14:43.000 it will cost you is just a little bit of forethought, 308 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:44.919 just a little bit of thinking about the game that 309 00:14:44.919 --> 00:14:48.440 you're putting out there and what its long term viability 310 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:50.399 will be, and maybe just make it a couple of 311 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:53.639 different choices to ensure that something in the game is 312 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:55.679 still going to work so people who spent money on 313 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:58.440 it can have some sort of enjoyment from it, and 314 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:00.600 if it's if the laws made be a little bit 315 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:03.399 more drastic than that and forces these companies to do 316 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:07.200 even more so be it like figure it out. I 317 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:09.279 just don't think that so in pain for something and 318 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:12.559 then that then continuing to work is something that should 319 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:15.080 be like, oh, well, we just can't do that. Nah, 320 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:17.200 I think we probably should LEXI what do you think? 321 00:15:17.960 --> 00:15:21.039 Yeah, the one bit of this I'm curious about, and 322 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:25.919 I'd be interesting to read over the actual legislation to 323 00:15:25.919 --> 00:15:28.399 see if there's provisions in for it is games that 324 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:31.159 make the movement from paid to free to play, like 325 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:34.639 that's not an uncommon thing. Destiny is probably the highest 326 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:39.919 profile example where that game was a sixty dollars game 327 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:42.960 at launch and then after several years it moved into 328 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:45.039 the free to play well and it went to expansions 329 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:48.559 and things like that. So yeah, like I'm curious this 330 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:53.600 stuff is. Also it's complicated because like I'm not sure 331 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:55.799 if you saw the stop killing game stuff coming out 332 00:15:55.799 --> 00:16:01.320 of the EU, but there were folks talking to the 333 00:16:01.360 --> 00:16:07.000 EU about this, and like turns out guy who got 334 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:11.879 up there super like anti woke, Like it's also woke 335 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:13.639 that is destroying video games. 336 00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:15.240 I was like, okay, yeah, like. 337 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:19.000 They I am all in favor of stop killing games. 338 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:23.559 The problem is, as a decentralized movement, they extremely do 339 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:29.080 seem to have a problem with actually having consistency in 340 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:31.679 who is out there speaking about it, because like not 341 00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:34.240 even just from like hey, I think this guy is 342 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:37.679 a dirt bag for trying to throw progressors under the 343 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:40.279 bus as like these are the people actually ruining games. 344 00:16:40.600 --> 00:16:43.559 But because like that's not how you build a stable 345 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:47.279 political movement. If you have people who are very clearly 346 00:16:47.360 --> 00:16:51.200 from the opposite end of the spectrum trying to poison 347 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:55.399 pill their agenda into your legislation that you're trying to 348 00:16:55.399 --> 00:16:58.519 push forward globally and all these different legions, it's not 349 00:16:58.559 --> 00:17:02.759 gonna end well, it's not gonna cohesive movement. And you've 350 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:05.200 seen that over the years with like all of these 351 00:17:05.240 --> 00:17:09.599 different wide scale social movements, is that as soon as 352 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:13.279 they get co opted by someone with an interest that 353 00:17:13.400 --> 00:17:17.279 overrides the original interest, then it just becomes a poison 354 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:21.319 pill issue. It becomes like, well, this is a populous movement, 355 00:17:21.640 --> 00:17:24.240 and we can push our agenda more if we latch 356 00:17:24.279 --> 00:17:28.039 onto this populist movement, and we start like also tacking 357 00:17:28.039 --> 00:17:28.759 on a bunch of life. 358 00:17:28.839 --> 00:17:29.799 And also they won't. 359 00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:32.039 Hire too many gay people when they make the video games. 360 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:35.599 But you know, it's it's just a it's that is 361 00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:38.039 a problem for Stop Killing Games as a movement to 362 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:40.880 figure out. I'm not sure if the appetite is actually 363 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:43.599 there for them to figure it out, because from everything 364 00:17:43.640 --> 00:17:46.480 I've seen, they are a very lass a faire is 365 00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:48.440 the wrong word, because they've been very active in it, 366 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:52.480 but they have been very central, Like yes, they've been 367 00:17:52.559 --> 00:17:55.400 very steamlike in their kind of like that moderation isn't 368 00:17:55.519 --> 00:17:58.599 a job, you know, And so I just wonder if 369 00:17:58.599 --> 00:17:59.359 that hunger is there. 370 00:17:59.799 --> 00:18:01.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's like I do think it's 371 00:18:01.960 --> 00:18:04.079 like that's why I when I see what's happening in 372 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:06.559 California is like a pretty good sign because it's already 373 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:09.599 pushed past what would matter from from that, uh, like 374 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:12.720 the opportunity for someone to like latch onto that end 375 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:15.400 to cause that sort of problem has already passed in 376 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:20.960 California at least, And if this law passes in California. 377 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:22.279 It effectively passes worldwide. It's very similar to the EU. 378 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:24.559 The California is you know, one of the top ten 379 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:27.400 economies on its own in the world. Companies are not 380 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:29.920 going to have different versions for California versus the rest 381 00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:33.000 of the world, so they will just have to abide 382 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:35.160 by this. So it's like, okay, yeah, they've already pushed 383 00:18:35.160 --> 00:18:39.440 past this problem. And the ownership that anyone from Stop 384 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:41.680 Killing Games might have over this is also sort of 385 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:44.839 that Patonce being passed, it's now, you know, to the 386 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:47.160 legislator and if they is, all they really got to 387 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:49.559 do is like kind of keep the pressure on to 388 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:51.960 make sure it can actually pass the Senate and uh. 389 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:54.200 And then the people actually speaking for it will be 390 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:57.319 the people actually who have been elected in California. And 391 00:18:57.359 --> 00:19:01.400 that's that's mostly a good thing here point, because yeah, 392 00:19:01.440 --> 00:19:02.759 these movements are such a problem. 393 00:19:02.799 --> 00:19:06.079 Yeah, go ahead please, Starling interrupted you huge breaking news here, 394 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:10.839 And so Magic the Gathering Wizards of the Coasts have 395 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:14.920 announced that Felix the Cash is coming to the game. 396 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:19.480 Finally. Oh man, the kids are. 397 00:19:19.400 --> 00:19:22.880 Talking about Felix the Cat. That's saying, the one ip 398 00:19:23.119 --> 00:19:27.440 that could topple the final Fantasy Collab was Felix the Cat. 399 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:29.480 It's it's upon us, everybody. 400 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:32.000 You've been asking about it NonStop and I've been trying 401 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:34.880