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Speaker 1: my friend, and welcome home. I am Dean Sharp the
Speaker 1: House Whisper. I design custom homes. I build some custom
Speaker 1: homes and for the weekends, I am your guide to
Speaker 1: better understanding that place where you live today on the show.
Speaker 1: Very exciting. We do this every year. This week in
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, Nevada, it was the International Builders Show, sponsored
Speaker 1: by the National Association of home Builders. It is the
Speaker 1: largest industry show for the construction and design industry on
Speaker 1: the planet. Happens every year, and we're talking a huge,
Speaker 1: huge show. This show has grown in proportions every single year.
Speaker 1: This is particularly, I believe, the largest show, at least
Speaker 1: in the last fifteen years. It is the world's premiere
Speaker 1: building industry showcase. It fills the entire Las Vegas Convention Center,
Speaker 1: the whole thing, including all the new expansion wings. I
Speaker 1: mean literally wall to wall in the convention center, over
Speaker 1: a one million square feet of exhibit space, nearly two
Speaker 1: thousand exhibitors and well well over one hundred thousand people
Speaker 1: in attendance, most industry professionals, some homeowners of most industry professionals.
Speaker 1: There's a lot to take in. And every year after
Speaker 1: the show wraps up, I bring you the Best of
Speaker 1: the International Builders Show all of the things that I
Speaker 1: think will be of interest to you, at least to
Speaker 1: the top things. And it's fun. It's fun to talk
Speaker 1: about what's changing on the horizon in the building industry,
Speaker 1: what new products or innovations are out there, give you
Speaker 1: a sense of where things are going. And so that's
Speaker 1: what we're doing. It's gonna take today and tomorrow's show,
Speaker 1: both shows to get it all done. So today part
Speaker 1: one of the Best of the International Builders Show for
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. And yes, I will not be using
Speaker 1: the abbreviation for the show which they use, which is IBS,
Speaker 1: which also stands for Irritable Bowel Syndrome. I don't know
Speaker 1: why they've labeled it that way. You could have come
Speaker 1: up with a different one, but we're just gonna call
Speaker 1: it the International Builder Show, Oh Builders. And of course
Speaker 1: we'll be taking your calls today. The phone lines are
Speaker 1: open right now. Producer Richie is standing by the number
Speaker 1: to reach me eight three three two. Ask Dean eight
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Speaker 1: when it comes to your calls, anything you want to
Speaker 1: talk about regarding your home, anything at all. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about the International Builders Show. You can call me about
Speaker 1: anything that's got you scratching your head about your home,
Speaker 1: and that's design, construction, architecture, DIY, whatever the case may be, inside, outside, landscape,
Speaker 1: decre anything. Give me a call. We'll put our heads together,
Speaker 1: we'll figure it out. I help you. Let me introduce
Speaker 1: our awesome team. Sam is on the board wrangling our
Speaker 1: not so live studio audience. Good morning Sam, Good morning Dean.
Speaker 1: How you doing today. I'm good, Bud, I'm good. You
Speaker 1: just found him very chipper. I got good energy going today.
Speaker 1: I love doing this show man. Seriously, I don't know
Speaker 1: if people understand being here is my sanity? All right?
Speaker 1: Well there it is. There it is. We're keeping Sam sane.
Speaker 1: So thank you. Producer Richie, our awesome producer, not near
Speaker 1: Mike because he's busy working the phones. He is here.
Speaker 1: You will get to talk to Richie if you give
Speaker 1: us a call. He'll tell everything you need to know
Speaker 1: and pop you into the queue. Awesome as always. Eileen
Speaker 1: Gonzalez at the news desk. Good morning, Eileen, Good morning, Dean.
Speaker 1: How's it going good. We missed you last weekend? Oh
Speaker 1: I missed you guys too, well did you? I didn't
Speaker 1: miss week the weekend off well, I actually worked. I
Speaker 1: switched shifts, I worked later. I was still here. Just
Speaker 1: slept in a little which is nice. Well, that's nice.
Speaker 1: That's always nice, all right, And sitting across the table
Speaker 1: from me, somebody. I also missed a little bit last
Speaker 1: weekend because we had a special guest in and I
Speaker 1: don't know where you were, just wandering around my better half,
Speaker 1: my design partner, and her beagle, my best friend in
Speaker 1: all the world. Tina is here. Welcome home. How you doing.
Speaker 1: I feel good? Good? Well, good, yeah, I feel all rested.
Speaker 1: Had good dreams last night, I did? You woke up
Speaker 1: to tell me all about her dreams. I did have
Speaker 1: very vivid dreams or vivid just living color dreams. All right,
Speaker 1: we need to dive into this. I want to get
Speaker 1: started right away. I'm going to remind you again the
Speaker 1: phone lines are open, and you know Saturday mornings are
Speaker 1: always a great time to call out here because on
Speaker 1: the West Coast things are very sleepy still. But I
Speaker 1: know you're up, and I'm glad that you're with me
Speaker 1: because we're going to dive into the best of the
Speaker 1: International Builder Show. The number to reach me for anything
Speaker 1: else eight three three two, Ask Dean eight three three
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Speaker 1: outs with for whether home is a condo or a
Speaker 1: cottage or a castle, doesn't matter. I'm here to help
Speaker 1: you take it to the next level. We're going to
Speaker 1: be going to the phones in just a bit. The
Speaker 1: number to reach me eight three three two Ask Dean
Speaker 1: eight three three the numeral two ask Dean. Producer Richie
Speaker 1: is standing by. He'll tell you every thing you need
Speaker 1: to know. Popping into the queue, and then you and
Speaker 1: I we can figure out what's going on with your place.
Speaker 1: All right, it is time to dive into the best
Speaker 1: of the International Builder's Show, which just wrapped up this
Speaker 1: last week here in Las Vegas, Nevada. Very first thing,
Speaker 1: in fact, I think, if I'm not mistaken, this actually
Speaker 1: won Best in Show for the entire show is a
Speaker 1: garage door and so this is of interest to some
Speaker 1: of you. No doubt you may or may not know
Speaker 1: this brand, Clo pey Clo pay Clope. Clope is a
Speaker 1: major manufacturer of garage doors. They have been an industry
Speaker 1: leader for a long long time. They introduced at the
Speaker 1: Builder Show this year the what they call the Vertu
Speaker 1: Stack v er Ti Verti Stack garage door. And my
Speaker 1: only explanation for it is, look, ma, no rails. Yes,
Speaker 1: imagine this. That's a sectional garage door. I believe right
Speaker 1: now it's it's the model they were displaying is a
Speaker 1: contemporary door. But I don't know why this wouldn't apply
Speaker 1: to any sectional garage door. We'll have to check with
Speaker 1: Club Pay on that. But we're looking at a contemporary
Speaker 1: aluminum and glass door, very very cool looking garage door.
Speaker 1: Imagine the sections of your garage door and how your
Speaker 1: garage door works. When it's time to open your garage door,
Speaker 1: the opener starts pulling the entire door up and over
Speaker 1: that curved railing system and then sets it along the
Speaker 1: ceiling of your garage. And other words, there are rails
Speaker 1: that run up and over your ceiling. And because the
Speaker 1: garage door has to slide up onto the ceiling. Then
Speaker 1: there are limited applytions for what you can do to
Speaker 1: the ceiling. In other words, when the door is open,
Speaker 1: it blocks lights that might be in the ceiling from
Speaker 1: shining down on the floor. It also eliminates the ability
Speaker 1: to have storage or anything else up there. Racking system.
Speaker 1: You have to work all of that around the rails
Speaker 1: well the verti stack door instead of remaining all intact
Speaker 1: one big sliding door system. As the door is retracted,
Speaker 1: every rail panel I mean every sectional panel I should say,
Speaker 1: disengages and floats next to the next panel. What this
Speaker 1: essentially means is that all of the sections of this
Speaker 1: garage door collect in For lack of a better term,
Speaker 1: this is my term, not there's a balance over the
Speaker 1: garage door on the inside of the garage. Okay, if
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Imagine like pulling up a blind in
Speaker 1: your house, right, pulling up adjustable blinds and they all
Speaker 1: pull up inside the balance. Well, that is essentially what
Speaker 1: the verdistat garage door does. No rails, no door traveling
Speaker 1: across the ceiling of the garage. It all ends up
Speaker 1: in this cartridge valance above the garage door header mounted
Speaker 1: to the front door wall of the garage, no rails,
Speaker 1: no rails, that's from Clope. That is a major major
Speaker 1: technology change. And yes, it won't be long before you
Speaker 1: see all sorts of garage door company garage door manufacturers
Speaker 1: producing their own version of this. I don't know this
Speaker 1: particular one, the patent how long it'll last. But Clope
Speaker 1: has got it, and they've got it now, and they've
Speaker 1: figured it out. Very very reliable, very very secure, well tested,
Speaker 1: well received in the industry. One best in Show at
Speaker 1: the Internet National Builder Show for new product, the Clope
Speaker 1: Vertie stack garage door. So just imagine that. Imagine if
Speaker 1: you could open your sectional garage door and have no
Speaker 1: garage door on the ceiling above you, giving the freedom
Speaker 1: to do anything you want or need to do with
Speaker 1: the ceiling of your garage, including tons of storage up there,
Speaker 1: racking down below, covering the entire surface of the garage.
Speaker 1: That is a game changer, is it not? Yes? It
Speaker 1: is all right, I got more, We'll do it.
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Speaker 1: Dean Sharp the House whisper with you this morning. It's
Speaker 1: going to be a lovely day here in southern California.
Speaker 1: A little cloudy, maybe a little rain. Maybe spring is creeping.
Speaker 1: Some might say it's already here. The birds in my
Speaker 1: yard are already telling me. Hey, buddy, forget the calendar.
Speaker 1: I will tell you when spring is here. It's when
Speaker 1: we just emptied your bird feeder from seed, you know,
Speaker 1: the one we've been ignoring for a few months. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's true, Spring is here. The number to reach me,
Speaker 1: By the way, we're going to be going to the
Speaker 1: phones in just a bit. Eight three three two. Ask
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Speaker 1: about regarding your home. Talk to producer Richie. He'll tell
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Speaker 1: and then you and I we can put our heads
Speaker 1: together and figure it out. Whatever it may be, construction, design, architecture, DIY,
Speaker 1: whatever it is. Just throw it at me. We'll see.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty good at this stuff, to tell you. But
Speaker 1: right now I want to continue with our taking a
Speaker 1: look at today and tomorrow's show, and if you're a
Speaker 1: podcast listener, this episode and the next the Best of
Speaker 1: the International Builders Show twenty twenty five Today Part one,
Speaker 1: the next episode tomorrow's broadcast Part two. Okay, let's talk
Speaker 1: about Let's talk about something that actually has got me
Speaker 1: pretty excited for kitchen design, and that is a major
Speaker 1: appliance changed, Tina, you're gonna want to get in on
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 1: LG Solid Solid appliance manufacturer, one of the finest, I
Speaker 1: would say in recent years, LG at the Builders Show
Speaker 1: introduced their new thin door, thin door, counter depth full
Speaker 1: size refrigerator. Okay, Now, Tina will tell you that one
Speaker 1: of the things that we strive to do when we're
Speaker 1: designing a new kitchen is too of course, we encourage
Speaker 1: clients these days, if you want the best looking kitchen,
Speaker 1: to go for a counter depth fridge so that you
Speaker 1: don't have a full depth fridge sticking out a good
Speaker 1: four to six inches beyond the cabinet space. So counter
Speaker 1: depth fridges are all the rage. They have been for
Speaker 1: a good amount of time, and manufacturers have been getting
Speaker 1: better at increasing the capacity of those fridges because they
Speaker 1: are shallower, so sometimes they make them a little taller,
Speaker 1: sometimes they make them a little wider so you can
Speaker 1: get closer to the same cubic footage. But the key
Speaker 1: is this even a freestanding counter depth refrigerator. If you
Speaker 1: will take a look on the market they have, there
Speaker 1: are certain requirements for the cabinets coming up to them
Speaker 1: because the hinges are standard hinges on these refrigerators, so
Speaker 1: they need a little bit of space clearance around them,
Speaker 1: a little bit of frame clearance around them. And the
Speaker 1: second thing is the doors themselves, even though they unit.
Speaker 1: When we say counterdepth, we mean the refrigerator box right
Speaker 1: up to the gasket that seals the front door. Okay,
Speaker 1: the box goes completely flush, but the door sticks out,
Speaker 1: and most doors are on average about four inches thick. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a nice little intrusion into the kitchen. Still, well,
Speaker 1: guess what LG unveiled at the builders show the LG
Speaker 1: thin door design for counterdepth refrigerators, a forty five percent
Speaker 1: thinner door. The door on this fridge is two point
Speaker 1: two inches thick overall. That is forty five percent thinner.
Speaker 1: I mean two two that's not even two and a
Speaker 1: quarter inches thick. That is the door. So what they've
Speaker 1: done is they've improved massively their insulative quality in a
Speaker 1: much smaller space. So they've made this a fully insulated
Speaker 1: door that's flat, not beveled or rounded, perfectly flat across,
Speaker 1: just a little over two inches thick, and zero clearance hinges,
Speaker 1: so that as the door opens, it also shifts in
Speaker 1: the back of it shifts in, so it does not
Speaker 1: in any way in true you can run cabinetry doors,
Speaker 1: drawers or whatever panels right up next to this refrigerator
Speaker 1: where the refrigerator hole is. That's gonna make a big
Speaker 1: difference in it. I'm thinking, I mean, that's that's great.
Speaker 1: And again, you know the reason I share these things
Speaker 1: with you, the things I try and pick as we
Speaker 1: take a look at these things. These are industry leaders.
Speaker 1: And the good news is not that, oh, well, great,
Speaker 1: there's one out there that we can choose from. No, no, no.
Speaker 1: The good news is whenever somebody breaks through this barrier
Speaker 1: and does something like this, you can be guaranteed that
Speaker 1: the rest of the industry will follow. Because this this
Speaker 1: is meeting a need that has been on everybody's wish
Speaker 1: list for a long long time. So LG has done it.
Speaker 1: They've broken the sound barrier, as it were, on this issue.
Speaker 1: They are producing a thin, flat refrigerator door for a
Speaker 1: full size refrigerator that is counter depth, zero clearance hinges,
Speaker 1: and as a result, kitchens are going to from here
Speaker 1: on out, you'll see I guarantee you're going to see
Speaker 1: GE come out with it soon. You'll see all the
Speaker 1: major manufacturers following suit with their own version of a
Speaker 1: thinner door. Because it's not like LG is holding on
Speaker 1: to some secret magic. They've just cracked the coat. And
Speaker 1: then everybody's gonna come. Everybody's gonna come because everybody wants
Speaker 1: a free standing refrigerator that slides in and just looks
Speaker 1: built in from the moment that you put it in
Speaker 1: there without paying the you know roughly six to ten
Speaker 1: thousand dollars that it costs to buy an actual bill
Speaker 1: tin refrigerator and all the issues that it has. So
Speaker 1: this is impressive LG thin door, counter depth refrigerator with
Speaker 1: zero clearance hinges. It's going to be a game changer
Speaker 1: for the industry. So if you are thinking again about remodeling,
Speaker 1: you're thinking about new appliances, you got to go over
Speaker 1: and check it out. And am I saying wait until
Speaker 1: everybody else comes out with you? No, the LG. It's
Speaker 1: a beautiful machine. LG is solid, solid, solid solid appliance manufacturer,
Speaker 1: one of the best out there right now. Also, I'm
Speaker 1: going to tack this on because LG again an introduced something.
Speaker 1: Now they've they've been toying with this and doing this
Speaker 1: a lot, but they're they've made this clear and Tina,
Speaker 1: this is relevant to you too. LG has officially now
Speaker 1: introduced its new luxury brand. Okay, so you guys know this.
Speaker 1: Like in the car industry, right, like every car manufacturer
Speaker 1: are a lot of them have their luxury version, Like
Speaker 1: Toyota has Lexus, right, they're made by Toyota Corporation. That
Speaker 1: kind of thing. It's true in the appliance industry as
Speaker 1: well quite often, like GE has Monogram. Monogram is a
Speaker 1: different brand technically produced by General Electric and it's their
Speaker 1: luxury version. Well, LG is now following suit. LG is
Speaker 1: now introducing SKS, which is Signature Kitchen Suite. So you
Speaker 1: see an SKS. It is a luxury appliance brand. It
Speaker 1: is made by LG, but it's made for the luxury market.
Speaker 1: One of the things that they were showing off the
Speaker 1: show was their energy Star Flex induction cooktop. Okay, four inductors. Okay,
Speaker 1: four zones, but the two zones on each side are
Speaker 1: completely flex as in they can be joined together at
Speaker 1: whatever proportion is needed. So literally, if you need fourteen
Speaker 1: inches by nine inches of burner induction hob, you can
Speaker 1: have that, or you can have the whole depth, or
Speaker 1: you can isolate it just down to one. It is flexible.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of the ge monogram where it doesn't
Speaker 1: even have any markings on the surface. Just put a
Speaker 1: pot down and it forms a ring around it and says, okay,
Speaker 1: that's where it is. But this is a very it
Speaker 1: is It's a thirty six inch sks thirty seven hundred
Speaker 1: watts of power per a hub up to and that's
Speaker 1: amazing power. It's got eleven inch dual center element that
Speaker 1: throws out seven thousand watts of power in that center,
Speaker 1: which is more powerful than most induction cooktops that I've seen, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, and most induction cooktops are more powerful
Speaker 1: than your top of the line gas cook top. So
Speaker 1: what am I saying? This is a crazy fast, crazy
Speaker 1: powerful cook top that beats out gas cooktops in performance
Speaker 1: on every level. And it's perfectly flat glass, no knobs,
Speaker 1: all touchscreen on top. Pretty amazing anyway. That is this
Speaker 1: year from LG SKS Luxury Signature Kitchen Suite Luxury brand,
Speaker 1: introducing officially and in the LG line, the zero clearance,
Speaker 1: hinged thin door, counter depth refrigerator. All right, I got more.
Speaker 1: But guess what when we come back, we're gonna take
Speaker 1: a couple of calls. How's that sound?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're home with Dean Sharp the house Whisper. Can't
Speaker 1: by Dean the house Whisper. Welcome home. Thanks for joining
Speaker 1: us on the program today. Hope you are enjoying your
Speaker 1: Saturday morning wherever you are, whether it be West coast
Speaker 1: and it's plenty early coming up on seven o'clock, or
Speaker 1: further back east in our country where you are you've
Speaker 1: already been up for a while and you're not up yet.
Speaker 1: You're not up yet, it's almost nine o'clock. Get up,
Speaker 1: or just stay there and enjoy the show. I don't
Speaker 1: really care, honestly. Let's let's not pretend like I, you know,
Speaker 1: have true outrage. I want you to enjoy your Saturday.
Speaker 1: The number to reach me, by the way, eight three
Speaker 1: three two ask Dean eight three three The numeral to
Speaker 1: ask Dean about anything regarding your home today, and I
Speaker 1: mentioned that because it's time to go to the phones,
Speaker 1: I want to talk to Dave A. Dave, welcome home.
Speaker 4: Wedning, Thanks for taking my car, love you, love your show.
Speaker 4: We've got a fifty year old flat riff one car
Speaker 4: garage with rolled riffing on it and it has a
Speaker 4: lot of suddling in the rain. We have to sweep
Speaker 4: it up.
Speaker 3: What if anything should we do when installing the new
Speaker 3: roofing to eliminate to flatten it out is I've heard
Speaker 3: there's a foam you can put on the plywood that
Speaker 3: will either I think it creates a dome or it
Speaker 3: makes it levels it out so.
Speaker 4: That you don't have the PEDALNK.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are some foam products that will do that
Speaker 1: that will create a slight kind of you know, for
Speaker 1: lack of a better term, on a flat roof, a
Speaker 1: hump which will basically give a little bit of pitch
Speaker 1: to a flat roof scenario. I would, honestly though, unless
Speaker 1: you're looking for extra insulated value or anything like that,
Speaker 1: I think I would. I would. I would defer to
Speaker 1: my roofer and only talk to a roofer who is
Speaker 1: a specialist in flat roofs. In this case, I think
Speaker 1: a layered PVC productor out PVC product. And then the
Speaker 1: thing that that that I like about a pour out
Speaker 1: PVC coating is that it will self level UH. In
Speaker 1: other words, you know wherever the the dips are and
Speaker 1: UH and the you know the that have been causing
Speaker 1: the puddling. The first couple of layers of the PVC
Speaker 1: poor will fill those in and UH and self level
Speaker 1: and then as you apply the the final layers, you're
Speaker 1: really working on an area now where there isn't any puddling.
Speaker 1: And so it's a what you're gonna do is you
Speaker 1: want to talk to your roof for specifically about self
Speaker 1: leveling compounds for that roof before you apply the final coatings.
Speaker 1: And there are so many different ways to do flat roofs.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm not specking one over the other because
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to presume what the best
Speaker 1: roof scenario is for you versus the best self leveling.
Speaker 1: But I would say my first guest stab in the
Speaker 1: dark would be that you use a pour out self
Speaker 1: leveling material that then will bond to the other roofing
Speaker 1: layers as you go as opposed to let's say, just
Speaker 1: rolling out rolls of self ceiling bittermous membrane or self
Speaker 1: ceiling kind of you know, edge stretchable edge material that
Speaker 1: will all self seal and make a beautiful flat roof,
Speaker 1: but it won't necessarily take care of the dips that
Speaker 1: are causing puddling. So a pour out self leveling system, Dave,
Speaker 1: that's the first thing. And you talk to a roofer
Speaker 1: who specialized in flat roofs, and they're going to know
Speaker 1: exactly what to do with it.
Speaker 3: Beautiful.
Speaker 4: Thank you, you're great.
Speaker 1: All right, buddy, thanks for your question, but appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Should we join, you know, we'll start, we'll at least
Speaker 1: start Joan, Welcome home, Aladine.
Speaker 5: I have a leak in the mainline of the house,
Speaker 5: somewhere between the meter and the house, and I had
Speaker 5: called DWP out to examine the meter and they noticed
Speaker 5: all them there was a lot of moisture in and
Speaker 5: around the meter itself, and they suspected a pinhole leak
Speaker 5: just based on the fact that all that water was
Speaker 5: around the meter. So I called the plumber out to
Speaker 5: see if they could locate a leak within arm's lengths
Speaker 5: of the meter and they could not easily find anything.
Speaker 5: So my question is, well they, by the way, they
Speaker 5: had suggested as a result that I get sonar, get
Speaker 5: somebody that could do a sonar evaluation to identify where
Speaker 5: the leak is, and that they would follow behind and
Speaker 5: do a repair. But I wanted to get your thoughts
Speaker 5: about the whole situation.
Speaker 1: Okay, so these are tricky things. We were just dealing
Speaker 1: with a last weekend, a good friend of mine had
Speaker 1: a leak in his house and we ended up calling
Speaker 1: out a locating service, a sona or locating service, and
Speaker 1: you know, assess the leak into the proper wall. But
Speaker 1: because of cabinets and other things like that, we didn't
Speaker 1: actually get it really directly pinpointed, and then he and
Speaker 1: I as we were digging through, we ended up finding
Speaker 1: it ourselves. The tricky thing, Joan, about your situation is
Speaker 1: that water that is leaking in a let's say a pinhole,
Speaker 1: leak through a pipe, I mean out of a pipe.
Speaker 1: It has a tendency because the pipe is creating a
Speaker 1: channel in the yard that it runs through. The water
Speaker 1: has a tendency to run along the length of the pipe,
Speaker 1: and so it can move quite a distance. Not fifty
Speaker 1: feet or so, I'm not talking about that, but it
Speaker 1: can move a good distance before it actually shows up
Speaker 1: where it is that we can actually see it. So
Speaker 1: you've got the meter, your water meter, which is down
Speaker 1: at the lowest point right the y.
Speaker 5: It's in the apron of the driveway exactly.
Speaker 1: So it's down there, and so water is naturally kind
Speaker 1: of running downhill toward it. So the pinhole leak, and
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if there is one, But the
Speaker 1: pinhole leak could be you know, it could be twelve
Speaker 1: inches away from the meter, it could be three or
Speaker 1: four feet. I doubt that it's ten feet away from
Speaker 1: the meter, okay, because soil would absorb that water and
Speaker 1: keep it from moving that, you know, if it's a
Speaker 1: small leak, so it is nearby the meter, if you've
Speaker 1: got exceptional moisture there, And here's the cool thing without
Speaker 1: any other encumbrances around. The reason I mentioned, my friend
Speaker 1: is that we had all these cabinets and things in
Speaker 1: the way out in the yard, even where the driveway is,
Speaker 1: that's a pretty clear place to get a good reading
Speaker 1: on it. And so yeah, I think that was solid advice.
Speaker 1: I think what you want to do is do your best.
Speaker 1: It's not a guarantee, not a guarantee, but you call
Speaker 1: a leak detection service and have them come out and
Speaker 1: scan the main line and narrow it into at least
Speaker 1: a foot or two from you know of where this
Speaker 1: leak is, and that's when you'll know essentially what the
Speaker 1: scope of the plumbing repair is going to have to be.
Speaker 5: What is your thought of going that approach? Sonars you
Speaker 5: know well over one thousand dollars, and that's just too
Speaker 5: identify where the leak is. What is your thought about
Speaker 5: going that approach trying to identify a specific leak somewhere
Speaker 5: in the line. By the way, everything is cement. This
Speaker 5: is all cement. So oh yeah, and then versus just
Speaker 5: repiping from the meter to the house. Okay, property is
Speaker 5: about thirty five.
Speaker 1: Years old, gotcha? Okay, all right. So here's the situation, Joan.
Speaker 1: We're up against a break. I want you to hold
Speaker 1: I'm going to answer that question. We'll do it on
Speaker 1: the other side of the break. If you can hold
Speaker 1: with me. Is that okay?
Speaker 5: Yes? Thank you?
Speaker 1: All right, you hang tight, and uh yeah, we're going
Speaker 1: to address that tricky little question. Should Joan go to
Speaker 1: all the trouble of locating or should she just move
Speaker 1: directly to repiping that question when we return. You're listening
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