Speaker 1: Okay, Wolfe, everybody's drunk mostly will Fee though.
Speaker 2: Her Hotel Motel.
Speaker 3: Carl and San Diego.
Speaker 2: And I don't remember the next line of the song.
So also at work.
Speaker 4: Holiday m Holiday a document as I didn't even know
this was a song.
Speaker 3: Hotel tell tell holiday.
Speaker 1: In same Zach, No, no clue, no clue.
Speaker 4: What is this?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? What is this? Why are you
saying things?
Speaker 3: Welfhy and I just have like a weird mind meld
and it's not.
Speaker 1: A real No, you bonded it. That's great. That's how
fucked up. It's weird. I'm too old.
Speaker 2: Weird thing dot com joined the Facebook group. You can
also join our patreon. We're obviously, as you can tell,
recording these and batches and.
Speaker 3: Ship has gone off the rails.
Speaker 2: This is the fifth episode we've recorded tonight, which is
why we're all losing it.
Speaker 1: Zach is drunk. It's embarrassing.
Speaker 3: Zach. Have you ever been drunk?
Speaker 1: Yes? Oh, tell us?
Speaker 4: I mean all pretty much from like freshman year of
high school, you know, through well through all of high school,
I went to like house parties almost every weekend, and
then up until I joined the church, you know, at
a twenty four has either a house parties or once
I turned twenty one? About the my friend.
Speaker 1: So you're a little younger, Zach. How old were you
in two thousand and one?
Speaker 3: Two thousand and six?
Speaker 1: You're seventeen in two thousand and one?
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, why are you asking about two thousand and one?
Speaker 1: You said that, Zach? You mentioned that, didn you say
two thousand and one? I think you did.
Speaker 4: No, I said, when I turned twenty one, I started
going to the bars with my friends.
Speaker 1: Oh, maybe that's it, Carolyn. I'm drunk, So, Zach, what
the fuck is Carolyn? Carolyn? You heard me? I wasn't
talking to you. I was talking to Caroen.
Speaker 3: Him is drunk?
Speaker 1: Hey, where's Carolyn? No? I want to know, Zach. What
year were you? Twenty one?
Speaker 4: Five?
Speaker 1: All right, good night, we'll be it's.
Speaker 3: Going to the bathroom, not to bed.
Speaker 1: Oh all right? Oh I saw a butt back? Did
you see that? Do you guys see the butt crack?
You guys saw Wolfe's butt crack getting up? That's why,
that's why on my video. Yes, all right, well good
so Zachy, five, you're twenty one. We can't be in
two thousand and five in your mind. Oh well, Carl,
and keep that fresh in your mind, because we're about
to go back to somewhere else. But we're not quite
ready for that yet. We're about to review episode nine.
This is called Slushy Slopes apparently, is that right?
Speaker 3: Sounds right? Slopes?
Speaker 1: So this fucking Chad GPT tells me that's not right.
Though this episode is called Kidney versus Tina. Sorry, GPT,
you're dumb as fuck.
Speaker 3: Uh so as a box of rocks.
Speaker 1: This might be a full hallucination. None of this might
be right. But I'm gonna go over this anyway because
we can't review this episode in twenty twenty five. This
episode happened way earlier, so we have to go back
to this time in our minds to properly review this episode.
This episode came out on July twenty fourth, two thousand
and six. The Top TVs is that at the time,
or CSI Miami. We've been over that. Dancing with the
Stars Yep, same shit, Top movies, same everything except Monster House.
Do we talk about Monster House?
Speaker 3: Oh that's the animated one, right, I think so?
Speaker 1: And also Lady in the Water.
Speaker 3: Horror movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm night Shyamalan that guy sucks. He's bullshit wolf.
He's Wolfe has some things to say about that if
you were around right, And the number one is what.
Speaker 3: His light is green? Right now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Look at that crazy hit song of the time, sexy back,
Oh justin Timberlake, you got it?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: And also without me?
Speaker 3: Who's that fite?
Speaker 1: Who's that? Bye? How dare you carling? Zachi? Do you know?
Without me? Eminem amnem Carlin? How's that feel? You're just embarrassed? Embarrassed? Yeah,
Marshall mathers Uh. Top songs Lips of an Angel? Remember
that piece of shit fucking song, Lips of an Angel?
That song sucks, I do remember.
Speaker 4: That's still on my playlist today?
Speaker 1: Are youse aious? Oh? Sorry? I insulted your shitty song exact?
That song sucks.
Speaker 4: It's someone else that does. Like an acoustic version.
Speaker 1: Of it, okay. Also too little, too late by somebody
named Jojo who I used to bang a lady named Jojo.
That was fun.
Speaker 4: It's probably a different because that's I have a huge
crush on that Jojo.
Speaker 3: Back in two thousand and six ju concert here in
mine Afrist like six months ago, and I had friends
who went to go see her.
Speaker 1: Is it possible that I was banging that Jojo the
whole time and I never knew it.
Speaker 3: I mean it's possible, not very probable, but it's possible.
Speaker 1: All Right. I'm gonna hang on to that fantasy for now.
You guys can think about knowing the lady I banged
where it's really only only Wolfy saw her from my
car one time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have no idea. We really have gone off
rails tonight.
Speaker 1: Good William Hung reverences, Zach. I'm sure everybody's gonna get that.
This is called this is episode nine. This is called
Kenny versus Tina. It starts off with a pool volleyball
I don't know, and Kenny and Tina talking about avoiding exile,
which of course, you know that's what I wanted to do.
And Coral and Evan talk about strategy. And I love
Coral's strategy because it's just like it's the obvious ship.
It's the ship that I would say if I was
playing this game, which is basically like, hey, just try
to win, just like do the best you can and
like fucking win the ship.
Speaker 3: And Nelson.
Speaker 1: She really is just what says the obvious things, but
she's smarter about it and funnier than than Nelson.
Speaker 3: You can actually do well in challenges.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and got both her legs and shit, So she's cool.
Evan talks about his hernia and pulls down his pants
and like shows the bulge by his dick. I don't know.
This is weird, right, this is weird. Why would they
show that? Why would he do this? And why would
they show this on television?
Speaker 3: Sur he showed it. I'm not surprised that they that
they showed it. I am surprised that they are still
letting him compete, Like this is like the second or
third episode where he's talking about this thing and it
is noticeable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and Carlin, so here's the thing. And Zach,
you gotta back me up on this one. If you
were to show like a woman talking about her hernia
and she pulls her pants down and pulls down her
underwear and shows a little something, but it's right by
her crotch, it's hot. That's fucking hot. I like, that's
so hot? Is that the same when Evan does it?
Carlin doesn't get no nothing, nothing happens when he's pulling
down his pants and showing like you can see some
pubic air and shit, and it's still just sort of
like I don't give a shit about that. No nothing, Zach.
Do you get if you if you see a woman's pubiccair,
you're in, right, You're you're in.
Speaker 4: Generally I prefer not to have a hernia right next.
Speaker 1: To Yeah, all right, well of those differences between men
and women. If I see a pubic care like, I'm
fucking I got a boner. That's it Evans. Evan's showing
his Evan's showing his ship all over the place. Women
don't give a ship for Evan. It sucks, sucks for Evan.
All right, Glad around that, Glad we agree. They get
a clue. Uh, Casey reads it from the cell phone.
The quote seems to be meet me. They think that
there's something happening with meat in this challenge.
Speaker 3: Lapping each other with stakes.
Speaker 1: Wolfee, you get hot woman right, like like a Tanya.
Let's say there's Tanya on this show and Tanya says, hey,
I got a hernia, let me show you, and she
pulls down her underwear so that you can see her hernia,
but you can see a little pubic hair. Yeah, you
turned on? Or are you not? You don't care.
Speaker 2: Something weird bulging out of her crotch.
Speaker 3: But you see pubic hair also not enomorph down there.
Speaker 1: Still not turned on. Xenomorpho is perfectly hairless, Carl, And
you would know that if you saw alien there's a
bang it back, Yeah, bang it away, Zach. That's the
right that's the right answer. Zach's just talking banging, that's all.
And I agree with you, Zach, got a bang. We
see Shane uh talking about Kenny's meat. That was weird,
do you guys not? You know you guys, No, no, weird.
It's kind of weird.
Speaker 2: S gets more homophobic the drunker.
Speaker 3: I guess, man, if if that had been Tina talking
about Kenny's meat, would it have been weird?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I talked about that earlier, right, Yeah, that's
all so weird. Uh, there's wrestling, guys, there's always weird
wrestling in these seasons, these early seasons like this, we
see this a lot.
Speaker 3: Kenny also hot people who were horny as fuck and
stuck in a house for weeks together.
Speaker 1: And just sort of machies. Most ship too, it's it's
sort of this ship. But we saw wrestling otherwise, like
the uh, what was that season that CT almost got
out by fucking choking the ship out of Kenny and
then he ended up punching Davis. What was that season
Gauntlet something?
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't remember what season it was, but yeah.
Speaker 1: Zach hit me up with that one. They're wrestling. It's weird.
Speaker 2: It's a podcast guy once who's like, when I see
big dudes that just want to wrestle them.
Speaker 1: I do think there's there's part of this man, like
these these people get these hormones in their brain that
they get start drinking and ship and then they just wrestle.
It's fucking weird.
Speaker 2: And I was like why He's like, no, No, just
want to wrestle them.
Speaker 1: Weird.
Speaker 2: That's it used to he lived in Utah, so he
used to give him shit all the time about being Mormon.
Why don't you go rustle one of your five wives?
Speaker 3: Man? Really, I just think that he needs to meet
some very nice men and maybe come out of the
closet a little bit.
Speaker 1: But wait, who's he? Who's he? Kenny?
Speaker 3: No? The podcast hosted that wolf he was talking about, Yes, Wolfy.
Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of fucked up because we've talked about
Kenny or Evan has this hernia. He's like really struggling,
he's talking about how painful it is, and then we
just see him in West just like fucking beating the
ship out of each other.
Speaker 3: The number of really really yeah, the number of very
physical things that Evan does in the few episodes that
we know he has this hernia, and this hernia is
apparently super painful, Like he fucking hung from a rope
with a hernia and like carried himself across this thing.
He pulls a led later on, he does all of
these different things with a hernia, Like of course that
shit's gonna hurt, but yeah, he can't show pain.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: Uh, Look, obviously Evan's a terrible person, as we've all acknowledged.
You gotta you gotta give him respect for how much
shit he's done with the hernia, just because he doesn't
want to disappoint Quarrel.
Speaker 1: See, I like this Wolfere, I like this conversation you
and I feel that way. I feel that way too,
But I wonder if that's because I was I like,
live this life of toxic masculinity where I'm like, I
feel like I have to do that shit. Carlin, do
you give a fucking shit. Do you feel like Evan
would be weak if he were like, hey, uh, Coral,
I have a fucking thing I gotta go home to see. Sorry,
you gotta go home too? Or does Evan like owe
this to this strange woman who he's never met ever
in his own entire life.
Speaker 3: I I think it definitely depends on the injury. But
he's got a fucking hernia like that's I mean, I
don't know. If he feels like he can do it,
then fucking let him.
Speaker 1: But I don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he owes it to Coral.
Speaker 1: But to keep going, you mean, or to tell her.
Speaker 3: I think he owes it to tell her. I think
she should absolutely know that her partner is severely injured.
But sorry, is that go ahead?
Speaker 4: I think he owes it to himself to keep going,
just because this is his first season, and if he
goes home too early, he very easily could never be
seen from again. So I think he's thinking long term, Like,
you know, he probably knows it by this point, he
can't stay till the end and win. It's like I
need to make enough of an impression that I get
called back.
Speaker 2: I mean, history books maybe would have looked on him
better if he would have Sam.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree with that.
Speaker 2: Maybe without peer pressure, can he won't be such a dick.
Then maybe Tony doesn't get the help she needs, so
I don't Oh yeah, tough one. Yeah, yeah, he's got
he's got weird, weird things sticking out of his project area.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, I I one think that he should have
told Coral. I don't know that she would have been
able to keep it a secret, but I one hundred
percent think that he should have told his partner because
she could have at least, like, you know, tried to
help him in I don't know, something covering it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever, punch.
Speaker 2: It back in.
Speaker 1: Uh. Well, this one, uh is you know, maybe not
going to stress his hernia so much. It's most estimately challenge,
but it is the challenge. Will he play the thing?
Speaker 3: There?
Speaker 1: Here we go and it's called Swimming less Sharks? Uh, Zachy,
how do you do it? What's his game?
Speaker 4: Uh? There is puzzle pieces hidden in a huge shark
tank and they have to take turns swimming down one
by one to retrieve these puzzle pieces and then assemble
them within a floating ring area within all within a
certain time limit. I think it's ten minutes.
Speaker 1: Sounds right.
Speaker 3: Like five minutes.
Speaker 1: Whatever, it doesn't matter. Well, I liked right away that
Wes is talking about being a great swimmer. He's so fast,
he's so good, he's such a good swimmer. We see
this even on modern day challenges. Wes is unbeatable in
the water, but Super fucks up this this round and
can't do it, can't finish the puzzle. What's up, guys?
Is this purely Casey? Is Casey the only reason for this?
Or is there something else happening.
Speaker 2: Here with why West did so badly here?
Speaker 3: I think Casey is a big part of it. But
I think the time limit is what really fucked a
lot of people like they. I think that the time
limit was far shorter than it probably should have been.
Speaker 2: It did seem to go by real quick for a
lot of people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I do think that. I think it was
only five minutes. I don't think it was ten.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, my Devil's advocate position is that almost
everybody finished this. The only people that didn't were him
and Casey and Kenny and teams.
Speaker 3: And there were only three teams that finished.
Speaker 1: I think they only announced three winners but I think
most people finished it. Zach, do you do you have
I have notes? I have notes, Colin, because Wes and
Casey they DQ and Wes is talking hit says, I
don't think anybody's gonna be able to do this. But
right away, right after that, Shandon Lennett they do do it.
They win it. I have that. Kenny doesn't get it done.
Derella and Avieve they do THEO and Shanda they get
it done. Coral does not. And that's it.
Speaker 3: Right now they're they're eight teams five DQ three do
not five DQ. Yeah, because I went so, I like,
I love this challenge. This has always been one of
my favorites, just because, like the people freak out because
they're swimming with sharp like it's not actually that dangerous.
They're fine. But I was deep diving trying to see
if I could find anything about them being in the
shark tank, if you know, if there were any like
weird things that happened while they were there, or like
weird things about the rulings on stuff, or like where
pieces were at or if pieces got moved so it
was easier for later teams or anything like that. I
couldn't find shit, but there were a lot of people
in like the mid two thousands who were talking about like,
oh this was this was insane, like they should have
increased the time limit because no one, like so few
people finished. There were only three teams, so I was
really paying attention.
Speaker 1: So the three teams they get it done are Dorell
and Avive, THEO and Shanda and Shane and Lennette. That's
it really those are the three. Yeah, okay, because like.
Speaker 3: Coral, she talks about being good at, like, you know,
taking swimming. Yeah, breaks out, Casey kind of teaks out
a little bit. Katie freaks out. She doesn't even want
to get in the water.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Katie freaks out. Yeah, she quits Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: Tina talks about fucking Kenny and the Italians can't swim.
M Kenny looks like he's fucking floundering. Mm hmm. Yeah,
I guess that I remember a flipper.
Speaker 1: Yeah Kenny, Yeah Kenny. Yeah, Kenny really fucked this up. Yeah,
too bad for him, because yeah, Tanya, uh who is this?
Tina talks a lot of ship but Tina sucks too.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Shane Lenette responsibility for them losing.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Shanan Lennet when they get to pick who
gets thrown into exile, and we see a very short
cut scene of them, and they seem like they're having
an easy decision of this, but want to act like
it's a harder one, which makes me think that they've
talked about this before. They kind of know what they're
gonna do, and it makes sense they want to throw
an Easy in Katie and they're sort of pussy footing
around like it's a hard choice, but it doesn't seem
that hard for them. I don't know, what do you
guys think?
Speaker 3: No, I think Easy and Katie were definitely like the
next ones on that chopping block.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they say shit about how it's not fair to
keep throwing in Wes and Casey, but like, what do
you guys think that's that's true? Is this? Is this
a fair thing? Or is this an alliance thing? Or
is this a like what is that? Why are they
making this choice?
Speaker 3: It was a little weird because they didn't go for
Wes and Casey, but I think it was just they
they kind of saw the writing on the wall, like
we need to start putting other teams up for potential elimination,
and maybe the rest of the house will throw in
Wes and Casey, so let's, you know, let's preempt that
and get Big Easy and Katie out. I don't know,
it was a little weird that they didn't pick Wes
and Casey though.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Zachie, no thoughts.
Speaker 2: I feel like this some of this is just sort
of saving face. If we tell Wes and Casey like,
it's not fair that you guys keep going in, it
gives them a plus if they try to do it
based off performance or whatever sort of gives gives them
a pass with everybody else over it can Katie and Biggee.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at least that's the thought process, Zachie, no thoughts.
Speaker 4: I think they just yeah, I think they just at
this point we're like, hey, we got a couple of them,
need to go. We can still get to Wes, like,
let's try a bone, give a week off, you know,
get back to them next week or something.
Speaker 1: Fair enough. All right, Well, with that, we're onto nomination.
My notice is here that THEO and Evan have a
very weird exchange about talking to their partners. I don't
remember this or why I take this note.
Speaker 2: Uh, When everybody first gets together, Evan's like, well, does
anybody have any ideas? And THEO is just like I
like to talk about it with my partner first, like yeah.
Speaker 3: But they don't get up and move. They just stay
on the couch with everybody else and then just kind
of like move their heads together. It was strange. It
was very everybody's silent and looking at him like yeah.
Speaker 1: And it was only a few seconds. And I like
these things, like especially with a guy like THEO that
is sort of like inauthentic anyway, it's just sort of
like this is a joke or is this are you
really doing this? Like what's happening? It was weird. But
they go right into the vote and really, uh, it's
Tina and Kenny, Like they're gonna they're gonna go in.
It's everybody's kind of voting for those two. That's what
it is. Uh. By the time that Kenny and Tina
have to vote, though, Kenny is just sort of like, hey,
it's it's eight to one, like we're gonna go in.
I'm just gonna fucking not make any more enemies and
not say a name. I'm just gonna vote for myself.
Tina fucking flips out and she goes insane. What do
you guys think? What is this? What is this? I'm
on I'm on Kenny side. I'm gonna be real honest
with you.
Speaker 4: I'm on.
Speaker 2: Kenny side. Sam needs to calm the fuck down.
Speaker 3: This is Tina show voting to show vote like she
didn't need to freak out like she did. I'm mean,
I get the team that she was voting for was
Wes and Casey, but it was still just like, you
guys have eight votes out of the what like twelve
that are available or sixteen that are available? But anyway,
is there any.
Speaker 1: Is there ever any points of voting against the group
when you're gonna lose? Yeah, yeah, when you when you
know you're gonna lose, when you know you're gonna is
there ever a point to do it?
Speaker 3: Unless you are like, it's such a This person is
my absolute writer or die, and I know that they
will absolutely freak the fuck out and cause issues for
me for the rest of the game if I even
remotely say their name. So I'm just going to burn
vote on somebody else, and I know that it is
an actual burn vote because there are only two other
people who are voting after me. Then maybe in that case.
But even then it's still like, if you're towards the
end of the vote and it's one going to be
that team regardless of how everybody else votes, it's a
dumb thing to go against the group.
Speaker 1: Yep, well, v Zach, you're on that same page.
Speaker 4: Only if I could think of is I feel like,
once you've yourself you can have lose the right to
get offended people voting for you. So I think it
makes it easier for other people to like keeping and
being like, oh, like they're such a good team player,
like I can them again and.
Speaker 1: I get that, Oh Kenny doesn't care Kenny vote for himself.
Speaker 3: Fine, I get that on that specific vote. I don't
feel like that carries over for future ones.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just feel like they get in the future
still be like, you know, who are we gonna vote for,
and they're like, well, Kenny Tiko is such a grain
of salt last time, Like, we don't want to make enemies.
Let's just do Kenny like he'll be chill with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I do think that's the best argument I've heard,
Zach as to why you don't do that, because otherwise
you vote with the with the majority. If you know
where it's gonna go by the time you get it
gets to you. You should always vote with the majority.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: I think that's the That's the only case that I've
heard that is like sort of like, oh, that's why
you shouldn't. Yeah, And I.
Speaker 4: Feel like you can probably for West and Casey because
I don't think it's like a thing of oh, now
they're back in the power position, like they're still on
the outside. Everyone else is still gonna be gunning for them.
So you're not making any enemies besides Wes and Casey
who probably are already against you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, honesty, Yeah, it would. I also don't
see it making them as an enemy because they know
that they're not going to be going and they know
that you have voted against them every other time, so
you might as well just throw their names out. And
because he has such a volatile partner, it feels like
he should have just sucked it up and said, you
know what, fuck it, I'm just going to vote Wes
and Casey with my partner to appease her and keep
things cup athetic.
Speaker 1: He probably should have done that. It didn't impact anything, like,
it didn't impact the game at all, and we'll see
by next week. Even Tin doesn't really seem to care
that much. Yeah, but this episode wraps with Wes worrying
about the pardons because you know, the pardons are coming
and if somebody's going to get pardoned, he's gonna get
get thrown in.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: And so he doesn't feel safe still, and Tina is
still kind of pissed about what Kenny did, and that's
how the episode ends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is.
Speaker 3: The first time that he's been in the position where
he could potentially someone could potentially pardon and then make
him go in and then he has absolutely no choice
but to go in.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: At least the other times he had the potential of
winning a pardon.
Speaker 1: Yep. And that's it.
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Speaker 2: You, Zach. What happened on the post credit scene?
Speaker 4: All right, so we're all standing around the living room.
I think pretty much everyone slept in the game is there.
And Evan starts to tell us story about this very
large woman named Violet that he went to go see
because apparently, in his younger days, Evan had an issue
with premature ejaculation.
Speaker 1: So all this very large woman.
Speaker 4: Named Violet who taught him a bunch of penis exercises
of how he can now last longer in bed and
now he can go all night long.
Speaker 3: What in the absolute fuck are these?
Speaker 1: What does he tell us about the penis sex?
Speaker 2: Say this?
Speaker 4: He doesn't, But then you just, uh, you know, well,
I guess we're back in two thousand and six.
Speaker 1: In our minds.
Speaker 4: The language from back then. So we do have the
O that jumps in at the end and it says
you didn't even know how to have a boner, right,
you really are retarded.
Speaker 1: I love, I love retarded. I hope we bring that back.
Retarded is a fine word.
Speaker 3: He's going to get our canceled.
Speaker 1: Carlin agrees no.
Speaker 2: For this episode of Challenge has been Brian.
Speaker 3: Wolfy, Carlin, san Diego, Big Uncle.
Speaker 4: Sweet Tea, Bananas.
Speaker 2: It is Evan probably said my dick don't work no more.
Speaker 1: Eat Murder eight h