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<v Speaker 1>For decades, people have disappeared in the woods without a trace.

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<v Speaker 1>Some blame wild animals, others whisper of creatures the world

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<v Speaker 1>refuses to believe in. But those who have survived they

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<v Speaker 1>know the truth. Welcome to Backwoods Bigfoot Stories, where we

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<v Speaker 1>share real encounters with the things lurking in the darkness bigfoot,

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<v Speaker 1>dog man, UFOs, and creatures that defy explanation. Some make

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<v Speaker 1>it out, others aren't so lucky. Are you ready, because

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<v Speaker 1>once you hear these stories, you'll never walk in the

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<v Speaker 1>woods alone again. So grab your flashlight, stay close, and

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<v Speaker 1>remember some things in the woods don't want to be found.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit that follow or subscribe button, turn on auto downloads,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's head off into the woods if you dare.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to do something a little different today. We've

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<v Speaker 1>spent a lot of time together out there in the

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<v Speaker 1>deep woods, trudging through old growth timber, following game trails

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<v Speaker 1>into places most people would never set foot, chasing down

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<v Speaker 1>encounters with things that shouldn't exist in the shadows between

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<v Speaker 1>the trees. And I love that, you know I do.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my world and it always will be. But tonight

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<v Speaker 1>we're stepping away from the tree line. We're leaving the

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<v Speaker 1>forest behind, at least for now, because I've been sitting

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<v Speaker 1>on a collection of accounts that have genuinely rattled me

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<v Speaker 1>in ways I wasn't expecting. And if you followed this

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<v Speaker 1>show for any length of time, you know it takes

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit to get under my skin. What we're

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<v Speaker 1>diving into tonight deals with something called the hitchhiker effect. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>some of you have probably heard this term thrown around,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe in connection with Skinwalker Ranch or some of the

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<v Speaker 1>research that's come out of the Old NIDS program, the

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<v Speaker 1>National Institute for Discovery Science, Robert Bigelow's outfit that studied

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<v Speaker 1>that property in the Uenta Basin back in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing. Most people don't realize. The hitchhiker

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<v Speaker 1>effect isn't limited to one ranch in northeastern Utah. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not even limited to one type of location. What we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about is a phenomenon where someone visits a place

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<v Speaker 1>of high strangeness, a place where the veil between what

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<v Speaker 1>we understand and what we don't seems dangerously thin, and

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<v Speaker 1>something follows them home. I'm not talking about a feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about the hebegbis or an over active

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<v Speaker 1>imagination fueled by one too many campfire stories. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about tangible, measurable, terrifying manifestations that begin occurring in people's homes,

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<v Speaker 1>in their vehicles, around their families after they visited these locations.

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<v Speaker 1>Shadow figures standing at the foot of the bed, objects

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<v Speaker 1>moving on their own, electronics going haywire in ways that

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<v Speaker 1>defy every rational explanation, Animals behaving as though something invisible

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<v Speaker 1>has entered the room, and in the worst cases, the

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<v Speaker 1>cases that keep me up at night. Whatever follows these

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<v Speaker 1>people home doesn't just make its presence known, it escalates.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Colm Kelleher, who spent years as the lead scientist

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<v Speaker 1>on the Skinwalker Ranch project, coined the term, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>been very clear about what he observed. It wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>the people who worked on the ranch who experienced these things.

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<v Speaker 1>It was their families, their neighbors, people who had no

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<v Speaker 1>idea what their loved one had been investigating, who suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>found themselves living in what can only be described as

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<v Speaker 1>a haunted house, except it hadn't been haunted before. Whatever

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<v Speaker 1>was happening at these sites of high strangeness had the

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<v Speaker 1>ability the intelligence and apparently the desire to attach itself

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<v Speaker 1>to human beings and follow them wherever they went. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I've spent the better part of two years tracking down

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<v Speaker 1>accounts from people all across this country who believe, who

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<v Speaker 1>are absolutely convinced that something latched onto them after visiting

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<v Speaker 1>a location they never should have gone to.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of these folks visited well.

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<v Speaker 1>Known paranormal hotspots. Others stumbled onto places they didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>realize were significant until everything in their lives started coming

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<v Speaker 1>apart at the seams. The stories spanned decades, from the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventies all the wait to just a couple years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>They come from Utah and Oregon and West Virginia and

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<v Speaker 1>Massachusetts and Georgia and Colorado. The witnesses are ranchers and

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<v Speaker 1>investigators and documentary filmmakers and ordinary people who were just

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<v Speaker 1>in the wrong place at the wrong time. What ties

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<v Speaker 1>every single one of these accounts together is a pattern

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<v Speaker 1>so consistent it'll make the hair stand up on the

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<v Speaker 1>back of your neck. They visited a place, they experienced

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<v Speaker 1>something strange while they were there, and then they went

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<v Speaker 1>home thinking it was over. It wasn't over. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just beginning. So settle in. Turn down the lights if

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<v Speaker 1>you're feeling brave, and let's get into it. These are

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<v Speaker 1>six true accounts of the hitchhiker effect, stories of what

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<v Speaker 1>happens when something from the other side decides you're too

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to let go. And I got to be honest

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<v Speaker 1>with you, some of these kept me up at night.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they'll do the same for you. Let's start

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<v Speaker 1>this thing where it arguably all began, or at least

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<v Speaker 1>where we first started paying serious attention. The U went

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<v Speaker 1>to Basin in northeastern Utah. Now long before Robert Bigelow

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<v Speaker 1>purchased what we'd all come to know as Skinwalker Ranch

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety six, That entire basin had a reputation

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<v Speaker 1>among the locals. The Ute people had spoken about it

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<v Speaker 1>for generations. They'd called the area a place where the

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<v Speaker 1>spirits walk, and they didn't go there after dark. Period,

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<v Speaker 1>no debate about it. Their elders had made it very

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<v Speaker 1>clear that land belonged to something else. In the fall

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen seventy eight, a cattle rancher named Dale Meyerhoff

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm using a pseudonym here because his family specifically

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<v Speaker 1>requested it, owned about four hundred acres of grazing land

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<v Speaker 1>roughly fourteen miles southeast of what would later become the

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<v Speaker 1>Skinwalker Ranch property. Dale was a no nonsense kind of guy,

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<v Speaker 1>third generation rancher, the kind of man who got up

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<v Speaker 1>before dawn, worked until his body told him to stop,

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<v Speaker 1>and didn't have much patience for what he called campfire nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>His wife, Carol, was cut from the same cloth, practical, grounded,

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<v Speaker 1>not the type of people who went looking for things

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<v Speaker 1>that go bump in the night. But something had been

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<v Speaker 1>happening to Dale's cattle over the course of about six

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<v Speaker 1>weeks that September. In October, he'd lost forehead under circumstances

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't explain. Two of them he'd found with incisions

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<v Speaker 1>so clean and precise they looked surgical. There was no

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<v Speaker 1>blood at the scene none, And if you know anything

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<v Speaker 1>about cattle ranching, you know that doesn't happen. A predator

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<v Speaker 1>kill is messy, it's violent. What Dale was finding looked

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<v Speaker 1>like something out of a science fiction movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>A neighbor of his, a man named Hank, who ran

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<v Speaker 1>sheep about three miles north, told Dale he'd been seeing

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<v Speaker 1>lights at night, not headlights, not aircraft. Hank described them

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<v Speaker 1>as orange orbs about the size of a basketball, drifting

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<v Speaker 1>He'd watch them on three separate occasions, always between midnight

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<v Speaker 1>and two in the morning, and each time they'd hover

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<v Speaker 1>for a while before shooting straight up and vanishing. Hank

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<v Speaker 1>was spooked, but Dale figured there had to be a

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<v Speaker 1>rational explanation, military testing, ball lightning something, so Dale decided

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<v Speaker 1>he'd go have a look for himself. One night in

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<v Speaker 1>late October, he drove his truck out to the Mesa

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<v Speaker 1>and parked near an old access road that ran along

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<v Speaker 1>the base of a sandstone ridge. He brought a thermos

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<v Speaker 1>of coffee, a rifle, and a spotlight. He was going

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<v Speaker 1>to sit there all night if he had to. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>what Dale told a muphonn investigator in a recorded interview

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty and I tracked down the transcript of

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<v Speaker 1>this through a researcher in Salt Lake City who'd been

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<v Speaker 1>archiving basin cases for decades. According to Dale, he sat

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<v Speaker 1>in that truck for about three hours, seeing nothing but

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<v Speaker 1>stars and darkness. He was starting to feel foolish, and

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<v Speaker 1>then right around one fifteen in the morning, something changed.

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<v Speaker 1>He said the air got heavy. That was the word

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<v Speaker 1>In an instant, his ears popped. The truck's radio, which

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<v Speaker 1>into static and then went dead entirely. Then he saw it.

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<v Speaker 1>A light appeared on the ridge above him, maybe two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yards out. It was orange, just like Hank had described.

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<v Speaker 1>But what Hank hadn't mentioned, or maybe hadn't seen up

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<v Speaker 1>close enough to notice, was that it pulsated. Dale said,

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<v Speaker 1>it looked almost like it was breathing. It hovered there

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<v Speaker 1>for a solid minute, and he sat frozen, the rifle

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<v Speaker 1>across his lap, the spotlight forgotten on the seat beside him,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it moved toward him. Not fast, not aggressive,

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<v Speaker 1>just a slow, deliberate drift down the face of the ridge.

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<v Speaker 1>And as it got closer, Dale said he could see

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<v Speaker 1>that it wasn't just light, there was something inside it.

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<v Speaker 1>He described it as a shape, a dark mass at

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<v Speaker 1>the center of the glow, roughly humanoid, but wrong in

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<v Speaker 2>It was watching him.

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<v Speaker 1>He couldn't explain how he knew that, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>certain of it. Dale started the truck and left. He

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<v Speaker 1>drove home doing seventy on dirt roads and didn't look

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<v Speaker 1>in the rear view mirror once. He told Carol what happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and she told him to stay away from that mesa,

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<v Speaker 1>and he intended to. He fully intended to put the

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<v Speaker 1>whole experience behind him, But three nights later it started.

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<v Speaker 1>Carol woke up at two in the morning to a

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<v Speaker 1>sound she described as something heavy dragging across the roof

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<v Speaker 1>of the house, not footsteps, a dragging, scraping sound, like

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<v Speaker 1>someone pulling a log across the shingles. She woke Dale,

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<v Speaker 1>and by the time he got outside with the rifle,

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<v Speaker 1>the sound had stopped. But their dogs, two blue heelers,

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<v Speaker 1>who were afraid of absolutely nothing, were cowering under the

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<v Speaker 1>porch whimpering. They wouldn't come out. Dale had to physically

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<v Speaker 1>pull them from under there the next morning, and even

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<v Speaker 1>then they wouldn't go near the east side of the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the following weeks, the Meyerhoff household descended into what

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<v Speaker 1>I can only describe as a siege. Objects moved on

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<v Speaker 1>Doors that Dale had locked would be standing wide open

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<v Speaker 2>One night, they.

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<v Speaker 1>Both watched as a kitchen chair slid approximately three feet

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<v Speaker 1>across the linoleum floor with no one near it, just slid,

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<v Speaker 1>smooth and deliberate, as if someone invisible had pulled it

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<v Speaker 1>out from the table. But the shadow was the worst part.

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<v Speaker 1>Well first saw it standing in the hallway outside their

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<v Speaker 1>bedroom about two weeks after his night on the MESA.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd gotten up to use the bathroom and there it was,

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<v Speaker 1>a figure, solid black, standing perfectly still at the end

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<v Speaker 2>It was tall, too tall.

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<v Speaker 1>It nearly touched the ceiling, and their hallway ceiling was

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<v Speaker 1>a good eight feet. Dale said he couldn't see features,

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't see eyes, but he could feel it looking at

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<v Speaker 1>him with something he described as curiosity mixed with malice.

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<v Speaker 1>He stood there, staring at it for probably thirty seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it simply wasn't there anymore. It didn't walk away,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't dissolve. One moment it existed and the next

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't. Carol saw it too, multiple times in the hallway,

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<v Speaker 1>in the kitchen, once standing beside their bed at three

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning, leaning over her She woke up feeling

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<v Speaker 1>what she called a pressure on her chest and opened

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<v Speaker 1>her face. It screamed so loud the neighbors a half

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<v Speaker 1>mile away heard it. Dale contacted a pastor from their church.

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<v Speaker 1>The pastor came out, prayed over the house, blessed every room.

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<v Speaker 1>The activity stopped for exactly forty eight hours, and then

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<v Speaker 1>came back worse. Now there were sounds, not just the

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<v Speaker 1>The veterinarian who examined it could find no cause of death.

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<v Speaker 1>The heart had simply stopped. The Meyerhoff sold that property

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<v Speaker 1>about Dale's story. Here's the detail that really ties it

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<v Speaker 1>to the hitchhiker effect as we'd come to understand it

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<v Speaker 1>decades later. The activity didn't stay confined to Dale. His

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<v Speaker 1>She'd never experienced anything like it before. Whatever had attached

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what makes it so terrifying. Now, let's head

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<v Speaker 1>southeast to a place I know well, being from Georgia myself,

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<v Speaker 1>bloodiest engagement of the entire Civil War, right behind Gettysburg.

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<v Speaker 1>The land there carries a weight. You can feel it

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<v Speaker 1>it can't let go of. Stay tuned for more Backwoods

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot stories. We'll be back after these messages. The park

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<v Speaker 1>rangers and locals have reported strange occurrences there for over

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<v Speaker 1>a century. Apparitions of soldiers, unexplained sounds of gunfire and screaming,

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<v Speaker 1>people don't know is that Chickamauga has its own version

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<v Speaker 1>of the hitchhiker effect, and the case I'm about to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you is one of the most well documented examples

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<v Speaker 1>outside the Uenta Basin. In the spring of nineteen eighty six,

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<v Speaker 1>a paranormal investigator named Gerald Whitfield organized an overnight investigation

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<v Speaker 1>of the battlefield. Gerald was a serious researcher, former high

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<v Speaker 1>school history teacher, amateur historian, and founding member of a

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<v Speaker 1>small paranormal investigation group based out of Chattanooga called the

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee Valley Paranormal Society. He'd been investigating alleged hauntings for

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<v Speaker 1>about twelve years at the point, and he'd never experienced

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<v Speaker 1>anything he couldn't explain away with a rational cause. Gerald was,

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<v Speaker 1>by his own admission, a skeptic who desperately wanted to believe,

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<v Speaker 1>but hadn't found his proof yet. He brought three other

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<v Speaker 1>investigators with him that April night, his wife Donna, a

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<v Speaker 1>man named Ray Castillo, who handled their electronic equipment, and

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<v Speaker 1>a woman named Patricia Bowman, who served as the group's

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<v Speaker 1>historian and researcher. They set up near the Brotherton cabin

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<v Speaker 1>area around nine in the evening, equipped with audio recorders,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of early model video cameras, and electromagnetic field

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<v Speaker 1>detectors that Ray had built himself from a kit he'd

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<v Speaker 1>ordered out of a magazine. For the first few hours,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing happened. They recorded audio and various locations, took baseline

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<v Speaker 1>EMF readings, and walked the fields in the dark with flashlights.

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<v Speaker 1>Gerald was starting to think it'd be another uneventful night.

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<v Speaker 1>Then around midnight, Patricia called the group over to an

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<v Speaker 2>The Brotherton field.

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<v Speaker 1>She said she'd heard something, not gunfire, not screaming, but

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<v Speaker 1>what she described as breathing, heavy, labored breathing, as though

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<v Speaker 1>someone very close to her was struggling to draw air.

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<v Speaker 1>She said it sounded wet, like there was fluid in

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<v Speaker 1>the lungs now. For those of you who know your

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<v Speaker 1>Civil War history, you know that many of the soldiers

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<v Speaker 1>who died at Chickamauga succumbed to chest wounds. The mini

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<v Speaker 1>balls used in that era caused catastrophic internal damage, and

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<v Speaker 1>a man shot through the chest would have spent his

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<v Speaker 1>final minutes doing exactly what Patricia described, struggling to breathe

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<v Speaker 1>through lungs filling with blood. Gerald moved to Patricia's location

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<v Speaker 1>and confirmed he could hear it too. He said it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to be coming from a point in the air,

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<v Speaker 1>about three feet off the ground and maybe six feet

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<v Speaker 1>in front of them. Ray started getting emf readings that were,

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<v Speaker 1>in his words, off the charts. The needle on his

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<v Speaker 1>homemade meter was buried in the red Donna began rolling video,

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<v Speaker 1>though it was too dark to capture much visually, and

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<v Speaker 1>then something happened that changed everything for Gerald Whitfield. He

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<v Speaker 1>turned on his flashlight and swept the beam across the

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<v Speaker 1>tree line, and for just a moment, he estimated less

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<v Speaker 1>than two seconds, the beam illuminated a figure standing among

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<v Speaker 1>the trees. It wasn't a Civil War soldier, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a ghost in period clothing. Gerald described it as a

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<v Speaker 1>mass of darkness in a vaguely human shape, standing motionless,

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<v Speaker 1>approximately twenty feet from where they stood.

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<v Speaker 2>But what disturbed him, what.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd emphasized every time he retold this story for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of his life. Was that the flashlight beam didn't

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<v Speaker 1>illuminate it the way it should have. The light hit

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<v Speaker 1>this thing and seemed to be absorbed. It didn't reflect,

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't cast a shadow behind the figure. The darkness

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<v Speaker 1>that composed this shape was somehow deeper and more absolute

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<v Speaker 1>than the darkness surrounding it. Gerald's flashlight died. Brand new

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<v Speaker 1>batteries installed that evening dead raise EMF meter stopped functioning.

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<v Speaker 1>Donna's video camera powered itself off and wouldn't restart. Every

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<v Speaker 1>piece of electronic equipment they'd brought went dark simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 2>They left.

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<v Speaker 1>Gerald made the call, and they packed up and drove

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<v Speaker 1>back to Chattanooga, arriving at Gerald and Donna's home around

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<v Speaker 1>two thirty in the morning. They debriefed in the living

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<v Speaker 1>room for about an hour and everyone went to bed,

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<v Speaker 1>and for about forty eight hours, everything seemed fine. Then

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<v Speaker 1>Donna noticed the smell. It started in the guest bedroom

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<v Speaker 1>but spread through the house over the course of a day,

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<v Speaker 1>A thick, sweet, rotten smell that Jerald said was unmistakable

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<v Speaker 1>if you'd ever encountered it decomposition. It smelled like something

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<v Speaker 1>had died inside their walls. Jerald tore open drywall in

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<v Speaker 1>two rooms looking for a dead animal. He checked the

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<v Speaker 1>crawl space, the attic, the duct work.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>The smell would intensify at night and seemed to fade

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<v Speaker 1>during the day, but it never fully went away. Then

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<v Speaker 1>came the footsteps, heavy deliberate footsteps, crossing the second floor

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<v Speaker 1>they'd lie in bed listening to something paced back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth above them, the old hardwood floor creaking under what

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<v Speaker 1>sounded like considerable weight. Jerald set up audio recording equipment

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<v Speaker 1>on the second floor. When he played the tapes back,

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<v Speaker 1>the footsteps were clearly audible, But there was something else

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<v Speaker 1>on the recordings too. Underneath the footsteps, barely perceptible, was

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<v Speaker 1>a sound that Gerald described as moaning, low, continuous, agonized moaning,

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<v Speaker 1>like a man in tremendous pain, trying not.

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<v Speaker 2>To cry out.

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<v Speaker 1>Ray Castillo started experiencing things at his own home, lights

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<v Speaker 1>turning on and off, his television changing channels on its own.

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<v Speaker 1>One morning, he walked into his kitchen to find every

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<v Speaker 1>Patricia Bowman reported persistent nightmares, always the same dream, always

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<v Speaker 1>the same scenario. She was lying on the ground, unable

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<v Speaker 1>her and she could feel it pulling something out of

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<v Speaker 1>her chest. She'd wake up gasping, unable to breathe, with

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<v Speaker 1>what felt like bruises on her sternum. She went to

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<v Speaker 1>bore the brunt of it. Over the next three months,

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<v Speaker 1>their home became what Jerald documented in painstaking detail in

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<v Speaker 1>a journal that was later shared with researchers at the

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<v Speaker 1>Rhine Research Center in Durham, North Carolina. The footsteps continued nightly,

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<v Speaker 1>the smell persisted. New phenomena appeared, cold spots that would

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<v Speaker 1>materialize in the middle of rooms, dropping the temperature by

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<v Speaker 1>what Gerald measured as fifteen to twenty degrees in a

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<v Speaker 1>localized area no more than three feet in diameter, scratching

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<v Speaker 1>sounds inside the walls that would follow them from room

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<v Speaker 1>to room, and the shadow feels. Gerald saw it first

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<v Speaker 1>in the hallway, the same configuration Dale Meyerhoff had described

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<v Speaker 1>eight years earlier and one thousand miles away. Though neither

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<v Speaker 1>man would ever know about the other. A tall, dark form, featureless,

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<v Speaker 1>standing motionless, and radiating what Gerald could only describe as attention.

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<v Speaker 1>It appeared three more times in the hallway, once in

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<v Speaker 1>Jerald's resolve, standing over Donna's side of the bed. At

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<v Speaker 1>four in the morning, Donna woke up screaming. She said

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<v Speaker 1>she'd felt a hand on her throat, not squeezing, not choking,

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<v Speaker 1>but resting there, cold, heavy, possessive. When she opened her eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>the figure was leaning over her, and she could feel

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<v Speaker 1>its breath, not warm like a living thing's breath, but cold,

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<v Speaker 1>a stream of frigid air on her face that smelled

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<v Speaker 1>like turned earth and copper. Gerald contacted every resource he

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<v Speaker 1>performed a blessing. He brought in a Catholic deacon who

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<v Speaker 1>conducted what amounted to an informal exorcism. He even consulted

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<v Speaker 1>based on a recommendation from a colleague. Each intervention provided

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<v Speaker 1>temporary relief, a few days, maybe a week, of reduced

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<v Speaker 1>roughly five months after the investigation at Chickamauga. It didn't

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<v Speaker 2>It tapered.

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<v Speaker 1>The footsteps became less frequent, the smell faded, The shadow

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<v Speaker 1>solid each time, more like a stain in the air

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<v Speaker 1>than a presence with form and weight. By October it

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<v Speaker 1>was essentially gone. But Gerald Whitfield was never the same.

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<v Speaker 1>He continued investigating for another decade, but he told colleagues

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<v Speaker 1>and I've spent every year since wishing I hadn't that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right there, folks, is the hitchhiker effect distilled to its essence.

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<v Speaker 1>Be careful what you go looking for, because it might

420
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<v Speaker 1>just come looking for you. Right back, Let's jump ahead

421
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<v Speaker 1>to the mid nineties and head out to the Pacific

422
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<v Speaker 1>Northwest to a case that came to my attention through

423
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<v Speaker 1>a researcher named Dennis Balthaser, who spent decades investigating anomalist

424
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<v Speaker 1>phenomena across the Western United States. In June of nineteen

425
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<v Speaker 1>ninety four, a couple named Scott and Michelle Alderman were

426
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<v Speaker 1>on their honeymoon. They'd gotten married in Portland and decided

427
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<v Speaker 1>to spend a week in central Oregon near Bend, renting

428
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<v Speaker 1>a cabin and doing some hiking and exploring. Both of

429
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<v Speaker 1>them were in their late twenties, both were outdoors enthusiasts,

430
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<v Speaker 1>and neither one of them had the slightest interest in

431
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<v Speaker 1>the paranormal. They didn't watch horror movies, they didn't read

432
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<v Speaker 1>ghost stories. The closest they'd come to anything in our

433
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<v Speaker 1>world was Scott's childhood fascination with Bigfoot, which he'd largely

434
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<v Speaker 1>outgrown by the time he finished college. These were not

435
00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:37.759
<v Speaker 1>people primed for a paranormal experience, and I think that's

436
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<v Speaker 1>what makes their account so compelling. There was no framework

437
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<v Speaker 1>of expectation for what happened to them. About three days

438
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<v Speaker 1>into their trip, they decided to hike a trail system

439
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<v Speaker 1>in the Dashuot's National Forest that led up to a

440
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<v Speaker 1>ridgeline overlooking the Cascades. It was a gorgeous day, clear skies,

441
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<v Speaker 1>temperatures in the low seventies, perfect hiking conditions. He gott

442
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<v Speaker 1>in trail information from the cabin's owner, an older gentleman

443
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<v Speaker 1>named Walt, who'd lived in the area his whole life.

444
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<v Speaker 1>And here's a detail that becomes important later. When Scott

445
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<v Speaker 1>mentioned which ridge line they were planning to hike, Walt paused.

446
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<v Speaker 1>Scott said it was a noticeable pause, long enough to

447
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<v Speaker 1>be strange, and Walt's expression shifted. He told them the

448
00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:24.400
<v Speaker 1>trail was fine, but suggested they not linger on the

449
00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:28.519
<v Speaker 1>ridge line pass sundown. When Scott asked why, Walt just

450
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<v Speaker 1>said the ridge could be disorienting after dark and lift

451
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<v Speaker 1>it at that. They started the hike around ten in

452
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<v Speaker 1>the morning and reached the ridge line by early afternoon.

453
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<v Speaker 1>The views were spectacular, and they spent a couple of

454
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<v Speaker 1>hours exploring, taking photos, eating lunch on a rocky outcropping

455
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<v Speaker 1>with a panoramic view of the mountains. Everything was perfect,

456
00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:53.039
<v Speaker 1>everything was normal. Around four in the afternoon, they started

457
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<v Speaker 1>noticing something odd. The forest, which had been full of

458
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<v Speaker 1>bird calls and insects sounds all day, went quiet, completely,

459
00:27:01.599 --> 00:27:06.119
<v Speaker 1>utterly silent. Michelle commented on it first, and once Scott

460
00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:09.559
<v Speaker 1>noticed it, he couldn't unnotice it. They were standing on

461
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<v Speaker 1>a ridge line surrounded by hundreds of thousands of acres

462
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<v Speaker 1>of dense forest, and there was not a single sound,

463
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<v Speaker 1>no wind in the trees, no birds, nothing. Then Michelle

464
00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:23.519
<v Speaker 1>grabbed Scott's arm and pointed down the slope to their left,

465
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<v Speaker 1>about one hundred yards below them, just inside the tree line,

466
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<v Speaker 1>something was moving. Scott described it as a shimmer, not

467
00:27:31.960 --> 00:27:35.480
<v Speaker 1>a figure, not an animal, but a distortion in the air,

468
00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:38.720
<v Speaker 1>like heat rising off pavement, except it was a cool

469
00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:42.400
<v Speaker 1>day and it was happening in a specific, localized area

470
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<v Speaker 1>that appeared to be moving horizontally.

471
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<v Speaker 2>Through the trees.

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<v Speaker 1>He said it was roughly the size and shape of

473
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<v Speaker 1>a person, but there was nothing solid about it, just

474
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:54.400
<v Speaker 1>a ripple in the air, like looking through warped glass.

475
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<v Speaker 1>They watched it for maybe thirty seconds before it stopped

476
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<v Speaker 1>moving and seemed to face them again. There was nothing

477
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<v Speaker 1>to see, no face, no eyes, but both Scott and

478
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<v Speaker 1>Michelle reported the same sensation that whatever this distortion was,

479
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:12.880
<v Speaker 1>it was now aware of them, and it was observing

480
00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:16.640
<v Speaker 1>them with intent. Michelle said she wanted to leave immediately.

481
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<v Speaker 1>She described a feeling of dread that she said was

482
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<v Speaker 1>unlike anything she'd experienced before or since. Not the kind

483
00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:26.119
<v Speaker 1>of fear you'd feel from a bear sighting or a

484
00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:30.039
<v Speaker 1>near miss in traffic, but something primal, something that seemed

485
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:33.160
<v Speaker 1>to originate not from her mind, but from somewhere deeper,

486
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:36.319
<v Speaker 1>as if her body itself was screaming at her to run.

487
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>Scott felt it too. They grabbed their packs and hiked

488
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>down the trail faster than was probably safe, practically jogging

489
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<v Speaker 1>over loose rock and exposed roots. They made it back

490
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:51.440
<v Speaker 1>to the cabin before dark, and that first night nothing happened.

491
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<v Speaker 1>They chalked the experience up to some kind of optical illusion,

492
00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:59.519
<v Speaker 1>maybe a temperature inversion creating a mirage effect, maybe just

493
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>trail for fatigue playing tricks on their eyes. They laughed

494
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>about it over dinner. They went to bed, feeling silly

495
00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:09.240
<v Speaker 1>for getting so spooked. The second night is when it started.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott woke up at two forty seven in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>He remembered the exact time because he looked at the

498
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:20.359
<v Speaker 1>clock to a sound outside the cabin, tapping rhythmic, deliberate

499
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>tapping on the exterior wall, right behind the headboard of

500
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>their bed, tap, tap, tap, like someone standing outside in

501
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the dark, pressing a finger against the siding at measured intervals.

502
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:36.559
<v Speaker 1>He got up, looked out the window and saw nothing.

503
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:39.839
<v Speaker 1>He went to the front door, turned on the porch light,

504
00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>and stepped outside. The tapping stop the instant the light

505
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:47.119
<v Speaker 1>came on. The night was still and clear, and there

506
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:50.799
<v Speaker 1>was absolutely nothing near the wall. No animal tracks in

507
00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:54.559
<v Speaker 1>the soft dirt around the cabin's foundation, no branches close

508
00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:57.519
<v Speaker 1>enough to brush the siding. He went back to bed.

509
00:29:58.359 --> 00:30:03.359
<v Speaker 1>Twenty minutes later, the tap resumed, same pattern, same wall.

510
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:06.880
<v Speaker 1>He didn't get up again. He lay there listening to

511
00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:09.240
<v Speaker 1>it until it stopped on its own around four in

512
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<v Speaker 1>the morning. Stay tuned for more Backwoods Bigfoot stories. We'll

513
00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:18.000
<v Speaker 1>be back after these messages. The next day, they cut

514
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<v Speaker 1>the trip short something about that cabin, that ridgeline, that

515
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:25.559
<v Speaker 1>whole area had gotten under their skin in a way

516
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:29.119
<v Speaker 1>neither of them could articulate. They drove back to Portland

517
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>four days early. And here's where I need you to

518
00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:34.519
<v Speaker 1>really buckle in, because what happened over the next several

519
00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>months to Scott and Michelle Alderman is one of the

520
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:41.200
<v Speaker 1>most detailed and consistently documented hitchhiker cases I've come across.

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00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:44.319
<v Speaker 1>Within a week of returning to their apartment in Portland,

522
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:48.519
<v Speaker 1>Michelle began seeing something in her peripheral vision. She described

523
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:51.799
<v Speaker 1>it as a dark shape roughly five feet tall, that

524
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:53.799
<v Speaker 1>would appear at the edge of her field of vision

525
00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:56.759
<v Speaker 1>and vanish the instant she turned to look at it directly.

526
00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:01.000
<v Speaker 1>It happened at home, It happened at work, It happened

527
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:04.799
<v Speaker 1>in the grocery store, at the gym, in parking lots,

528
00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:08.480
<v Speaker 1>always just at the edge of sight, always gone before

529
00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:12.599
<v Speaker 1>she could get a clear look. Scott started experiencing something different.

530
00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:17.559
<v Speaker 1>Electronics around him began malfunctioning in bizarre ways. His computer

531
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:20.839
<v Speaker 1>at work would crash repeatedly, always at the same time,

532
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:24.759
<v Speaker 1>two forty seven in the afternoon, the same time he'd

533
00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:28.559
<v Speaker 1>woken up to the tapping. His watch stopped. He replaced

534
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>the battery, it stopped again. He bought a new watch,

535
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:36.119
<v Speaker 1>that one stopped too. The television in their apartment would

536
00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:39.960
<v Speaker 1>turn itself on at night, always to static, always at

537
00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:43.480
<v Speaker 1>a volume that was just barely audible, a low hiss

538
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:46.480
<v Speaker 1>that you'd almost mistake for white noise if you didn't

539
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:50.279
<v Speaker 1>notice the faint blue glow of the screen illuminating the room.

540
00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:54.559
<v Speaker 1>Michelle's peripheral sightings escalated. She started seeing the shape in

541
00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:57.440
<v Speaker 1>the apartment, and it wasn't just at the edges anymore.

542
00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:01.359
<v Speaker 1>She'd catch it standing in doorways, in the hallway, in

543
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:04.920
<v Speaker 1>the corner of the bedroom, still never when she looked directly,

544
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:09.200
<v Speaker 1>but lasting longer, lingering, as if testing how close it

545
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:12.559
<v Speaker 1>could get before she turned. Then came the night she

546
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:15.119
<v Speaker 1>saw it straight on. She'd gotten up to get a

547
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:17.680
<v Speaker 1>glass of water and walked into the kitchen without turning

548
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:21.039
<v Speaker 1>on the light. Street light coming through the window provided

549
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:24.519
<v Speaker 1>enough illumination to navigate, and as she reached for a glass,

550
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:28.079
<v Speaker 1>she glanced toward the living room. Something was standing in

551
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the room, not at the edge of

552
00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:33.839
<v Speaker 1>her vision, not in a doorway, dead center of the

553
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:36.680
<v Speaker 1>living room, motionless facing her.

554
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Michelle froze.

555
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:41.240
<v Speaker 1>She said it was the same height she'd been estimating,

556
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:45.079
<v Speaker 1>about five feet, but it wasn't human shaped. It was

557
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:48.519
<v Speaker 1>too thin, the limbs too elongated, and it appeared to

558
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:51.720
<v Speaker 1>have no defined edges. It was as if someone had

559
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>taken a three dimensional shadow and stood it upright, and

560
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:58.759
<v Speaker 1>the borders of its form wavered slightly, like smoke. Trying

561
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:02.519
<v Speaker 1>to hold a shape. She dropped the glass. It shattered

562
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:05.039
<v Speaker 1>on the kitchen floor, and the sound seemed to break

563
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:08.599
<v Speaker 1>whatever held the moment in place. The figure didn't vanish

564
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:14.039
<v Speaker 1>like it had before. It moved quickly, fluidly, without any sound,

565
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:16.519
<v Speaker 1>toward the corner of the room and into the wall,

566
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:20.960
<v Speaker 1>not through the wall, into it, as if the wall

567
00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>had absorbed it. Michelle screamed, Scott came running. They turned

568
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:27.799
<v Speaker 1>on every light in the apartment and sat in the

569
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:31.039
<v Speaker 1>living room until dawn. They moved out of that apartment

570
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:34.720
<v Speaker 1>within the month. The activity continued in the new place,

571
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:40.000
<v Speaker 1>but at a reduced intensity, fewer sightings, less frequent electronic disturbances.

572
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:43.599
<v Speaker 1>Michelle started seeing a therapist, and when she described what

573
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:47.279
<v Speaker 1>was happening, the therapist referred her to a parapsychologist at

574
00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:51.799
<v Speaker 1>Portland State University who was collecting accounts of anomalous experiences.

575
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:55.319
<v Speaker 1>That researcher is the one who connected their case to

576
00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:59.759
<v Speaker 1>the broader pattern of hitchhiker effect phenomena. The activity finally

577
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:03.359
<v Speaker 1>seen east in early nineteen ninety five, roughly eight months

578
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>after the Ridgeline experience, but it.

579
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Left its mark.

580
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Scott told the researcher something that echoes what so many

581
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:13.639
<v Speaker 1>of these witnesses say. I don't know what we saw

582
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:15.960
<v Speaker 1>up there, and I don't know what followed us home,

583
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:20.440
<v Speaker 1>but I know this, we were noticed. Whatever it was,

584
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:24.119
<v Speaker 1>it noticed us, and for a while it didn't want

585
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:28.159
<v Speaker 1>to let go. Years later, Scott tracked down Walt, the

586
00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:30.840
<v Speaker 1>cabin owner, and asked him directly what he knew about

587
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:34.199
<v Speaker 1>that ridge line. Walt was quiet for a long time,

588
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:37.480
<v Speaker 1>then said the local Native American community had considered that

589
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:41.079
<v Speaker 1>ridge line a spirit road, a path used by entities

590
00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:44.559
<v Speaker 1>moving between worlds. He said he'd had other guests come

591
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:47.440
<v Speaker 1>back from hikes up there looking shaken, though most of

592
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:50.400
<v Speaker 1>them never said why, and he said that his own

593
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:52.719
<v Speaker 1>wife had refused to go near that ridge for the

594
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:56.159
<v Speaker 1>last fifteen years of her life. After an experience, she

595
00:34:56.159 --> 00:35:02.079
<v Speaker 1>would never discuss a spirit road between worlds, and Scott

596
00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:03.960
<v Speaker 1>and Michelle had stood right in the middle of it,

597
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:08.400
<v Speaker 1>taking photos and eating sandwiches, completely unaware that they just

598
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:11.400
<v Speaker 1>made themselves visible to something that could reach across any

599
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:14.440
<v Speaker 1>distance to find them again. I want to pause here

600
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:16.960
<v Speaker 1>for a second because I think Scott and Michelle's case

601
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:21.079
<v Speaker 1>illustrates something crucial about the hitchhiker effect that separates it

602
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:25.519
<v Speaker 1>from traditional hauntings or Poultrygeist activity. With a haunting, the

603
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:29.079
<v Speaker 1>phenomena is tied to a location. The house is haunted,

604
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:32.800
<v Speaker 1>the building is haunted, the land is haunted. You leave

605
00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:37.960
<v Speaker 1>and it stays. With Poultergeist activity, the phenomena is typically

606
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:42.320
<v Speaker 1>tied to a person, usually an adolescent, going through emotional turbulence,

607
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:47.000
<v Speaker 1>and it manifests wherever that person goes. The hitchhiker effect

608
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:50.400
<v Speaker 1>is something else entirely. It's not tied to a location

609
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:54.079
<v Speaker 1>because it follows you home. But it's also not quite

610
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:57.639
<v Speaker 1>the same as a poultergeist because the person isn't generating it.

611
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:02.239
<v Speaker 1>Something external, something with its own intelligence and its own agenda,

612
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:06.280
<v Speaker 1>makes a conscious decision to attach itself to a specific individual.

613
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:11.320
<v Speaker 1>It's predatory in a way that traditional paranormal classification systems

614
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:15.400
<v Speaker 1>don't account for. And the fact that two completely ordinary

615
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:19.639
<v Speaker 1>people newlyweds on their honeymoon could stumble into this simply

616
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:22.400
<v Speaker 1>by walking a trail at the wrong time tells you

617
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:25.800
<v Speaker 1>everything you need to know about how indiscriminate this phenomenon

618
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:28.159
<v Speaker 1>can be. You don't have to go looking for it,

619
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:30.480
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to provoke it. You just have to

620
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:33.639
<v Speaker 1>be visible. You just have to be there. Let me

621
00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:36.079
<v Speaker 1>take you to West Virginia now, to a place that's

622
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:40.559
<v Speaker 1>become synonymous with high strangeness, Point Pleasant, home of the

623
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:43.679
<v Speaker 1>Mothman legend and one of the most concentrated hot spots

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<v Speaker 1>of unexplained phenomena in North American history. And I'm going

625
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<v Speaker 1>to tell you about a case that never made it

626
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:52.159
<v Speaker 1>into any of the Mothman books, that was dug out

627
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:56.039
<v Speaker 1>of a county Sheriff's department's unofficial files. In the fall

628
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<v Speaker 1>of two thousand and three, a Mason County Sheriff's deputy

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<v Speaker 1>named Kyle Harmon was assigned to investigate a series of

630
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:07.000
<v Speaker 1>trespassing complaints near the Old TNT area, the decommissioned World

631
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<v Speaker 1>War II munition storage facility north of town where the

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00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:14.800
<v Speaker 1>original Mothman sightings occurred in nineteen sixty six and sixty seven.

633
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<v Speaker 1>The TNT area had been drawing curiosity seekers and paranormal

634
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:22.920
<v Speaker 1>tourists for decades, and the local property owners were sick

635
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:27.360
<v Speaker 1>of it, people trampling their land, leaving trash, shining lights

636
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:31.400
<v Speaker 1>around at all hours. Kyle's job was to increase patrols

637
00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:35.199
<v Speaker 1>and hopefully discourage the foot traffic. Kyle was thirty one

638
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:40.159
<v Speaker 1>years old, eight years on the force, decorated respected. He'd

639
00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:42.320
<v Speaker 1>grown up in Mason County and was well aware of

640
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:45.199
<v Speaker 1>the Mothman lore, but he didn't put much stock in it.

641
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:48.719
<v Speaker 1>To him, the Mothman was a local legend that brought

642
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:51.360
<v Speaker 1>tourist dollars into a town that could use them, and

643
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:54.320
<v Speaker 1>the TNT area was just a bunch of old concrete

644
00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:58.599
<v Speaker 1>bunkers slowly being reclaimed by the forest. Nothing spooky about it,

645
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:02.599
<v Speaker 1>just history and code zu. For the first couple of weeks,

646
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>his patrols were uneventful. He drived the perimeter roads, occasionally

647
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:10.440
<v Speaker 1>roused a car load of teenagers or a paranormal investigation

648
00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:13.559
<v Speaker 1>group from out of state, write a few warnings and

649
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>move on.

650
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:16.039
<v Speaker 2>Routine work.

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<v Speaker 1>On the night of October seventeenth, two thousand and three,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle was making a late patrol around eleven pm when

653
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:25.360
<v Speaker 1>he noticed a light coming from inside one of the

654
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:29.280
<v Speaker 1>old bunkers, Igloo number seven, which was supposed to be sealed.

655
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<v Speaker 1>He figured it was trespassers and pulled his cruiser over

656
00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:36.159
<v Speaker 1>to investigate on foot. As he approached the bunker, his

657
00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:41.559
<v Speaker 1>radio went dead, not static dead. The display went dark,

658
00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:46.280
<v Speaker 1>no power. His flashlight flickered twice and then stabilized, but

659
00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:49.760
<v Speaker 1>at a noticeably dimmer output, as if something was draining

660
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:55.400
<v Speaker 1>the battery. Kyle was annoyed, but not alarmed equipment malfunctions happened.

661
00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:58.679
<v Speaker 1>He reached the bunker entrance and found the old door ajar,

662
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:01.519
<v Speaker 1>which shouldn't have been possible because it had been welded

663
00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:05.159
<v Speaker 1>shut by the county years earlier. The welds were intact,

664
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<v Speaker 1>but the metal of the door itself had warped, creating

665
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:11.639
<v Speaker 1>a gap about eighteen inches wide. The light he'd seen

666
00:39:11.639 --> 00:39:15.039
<v Speaker 1>from the road was coming from inside, a pale, bluish

667
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:19.159
<v Speaker 1>white luminance with no apparent source. Kyle squeezed through the

668
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:22.199
<v Speaker 1>gap and into the bunker. It was a concrete dome

669
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:25.760
<v Speaker 1>about thirty feet in diameter, empty except for debris and

670
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:29.920
<v Speaker 1>decades of accumulated dirt. But the light was there, hovering

671
00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:32.440
<v Speaker 1>approximately four feet off the ground in the center of

672
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:35.639
<v Speaker 1>the space. It was roughly the size of a softball,

673
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:40.000
<v Speaker 1>and it was moving slowly, rotating in place, pulsing gently,

674
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:43.880
<v Speaker 1>casting that cold blue light on the curved concrete walls.

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00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Kyle stood there watching it for what he estimated was

676
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:51.519
<v Speaker 1>about two minutes. He said later that he felt completely calm,

677
00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:54.840
<v Speaker 1>which in retrospect struck him as weird. He should have

678
00:39:54.840 --> 00:40:00.159
<v Speaker 1>been afraid or at least confused. Instead, he felt a strange, surendery,

679
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:04.159
<v Speaker 1>almost as if something was deliberately suppressing his alarm response.

680
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:08.400
<v Speaker 1>And then the orb began to expand. It grew from

681
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:11.360
<v Speaker 1>softball size to roughly the diameter of a beach ball

682
00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:14.760
<v Speaker 1>over the course of about ten seconds, and as it expanded,

683
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Kyle began to see something inside it.

684
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Not clearly.

685
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>It was like looking through frosted glass, but there were

686
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:26.760
<v Speaker 1>shapes moving within the light, dark shapes humanoid but not human.

687
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:29.639
<v Speaker 1>He counted three of them, and they appeared to be

688
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:33.800
<v Speaker 1>looking outward, looking at him, pressing against the interior surface

689
00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:34.559
<v Speaker 1>of the light.

690
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:35.719
<v Speaker 2>As if trying to push through.

691
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:38.840
<v Speaker 1>That's when the calm shattered and the fear hit him

692
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:42.960
<v Speaker 1>like a freight train. He turned and ran. He squeezed

693
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.559
<v Speaker 1>back through the gap in the door, sprinted to his cruiser,

694
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:48.880
<v Speaker 1>and drove straight back to the station. His radio came

695
00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:51.440
<v Speaker 1>back to life the moment he started the engine, as

696
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:54.719
<v Speaker 1>if it had never been off. Kyle filed a report

697
00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:57.599
<v Speaker 1>about the trespassing complaint, but did not include what he'd

698
00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:00.960
<v Speaker 1>seen inside the bunker. He was a law in enforcement officer,

699
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:04.360
<v Speaker 1>he knew how that would read. He told his wife

700
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Sarah that night, and she could see he was shaken.

701
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:11.039
<v Speaker 1>Kyle Harmon was not a man who shook easily. Four

702
00:41:11.079 --> 00:41:13.400
<v Speaker 1>days later, Sarah called Kyle at work in the middle

703
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:17.199
<v Speaker 1>of the afternoon, audibly distressed. She said she'd been in

704
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:19.440
<v Speaker 1>the kitchen making lunch when she heard the front door

705
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:23.079
<v Speaker 1>open and close. She assumed it was Kyle coming home early,

706
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:26.800
<v Speaker 1>but when she called out, no one answered. She walked

707
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:29.440
<v Speaker 1>into the living room and found it empty. The front

708
00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:32.639
<v Speaker 1>door was locked. It was a dead bolt, you couldn't

709
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:35.000
<v Speaker 1>lock it from the outside without a key, and it

710
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:37.840
<v Speaker 1>had been locked from the inside. No one had come

711
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:41.639
<v Speaker 1>in but Sarah said the room felt occupied. She could

712
00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:44.079
<v Speaker 1>sense a presence the way you can sense someone standing

713
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:46.960
<v Speaker 1>behind you in a dark room, even when you can't

714
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:51.559
<v Speaker 1>see or hear them. That night, their six year old daughter, Emma,

715
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:55.280
<v Speaker 1>woke up screaming. When Kyle and Sarah rushed to her room,

716
00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:59.079
<v Speaker 1>Emma was sitting up in bed, pointing at the closet, sobbing.

717
00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:03.400
<v Speaker 1>She said the blue man was in her closet. Kyle

718
00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:06.920
<v Speaker 1>opened the door. It was empty, but the interior of

719
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the closet and this detail has never left me, was

720
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:14.320
<v Speaker 1>noticeably colder than the rest of the room. Not slightly cooler,

721
00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:19.039
<v Speaker 1>significantly colder. Kyle said it felt like opening a refrigerator.

722
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:22.960
<v Speaker 1>The activity accelerated over the following weeks, with a consistency

723
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:25.320
<v Speaker 1>that made Kyle feel like he was losing his mind.

724
00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Every night, at approximately eleven pm, the same time he

725
00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:32.599
<v Speaker 1>discovered the light in the bunker, the television in the

726
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:36.039
<v Speaker 1>living room would turn on, always to a dead channel,

727
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:40.559
<v Speaker 1>always displaying static. If Kyle turned it off, it would

728
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:44.000
<v Speaker 1>turn back on within minutes. He unplugged it one night

729
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:47.280
<v Speaker 1>it turned on anyway. He stood there staring at a

730
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:50.719
<v Speaker 1>television that was displaying static, with no power source, and

731
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:54.960
<v Speaker 1>something inside his understanding of how the world worked quietly broke.

732
00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Emma continued seeing the blue man. She described it in

733
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:02.599
<v Speaker 1>the way only a six year old can, matter of factly,

734
00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:06.360
<v Speaker 1>without embellishment, as if she was describing something as real

735
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:10.280
<v Speaker 1>and mundane as the family dog. She said, it was tall,

736
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:13.280
<v Speaker 1>it was blue like the sky, but darker, and it

737
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:17.599
<v Speaker 1>watched her. It didn't talk, it didn't move. It just

738
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:22.920
<v Speaker 1>stood in places, her room, the hallway, the backyard and watched.

739
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:26.360
<v Speaker 1>When Kyle asked if it scared her, she thought about

740
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:30.719
<v Speaker 1>it and said, it's not mean, it's just hungry. That

741
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:33.000
<v Speaker 1>answer is the one that still gives me chills when

742
00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:35.519
<v Speaker 1>I think about it, coming from a six year old.

743
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:40.559
<v Speaker 1>It's just hungry. Kyle, to his credit, started documenting everything.

744
00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:45.679
<v Speaker 1>He kept a detailed log, timestamped noting every incident. He

745
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:50.199
<v Speaker 1>photographed the television turning on while unplugged. He recorded audio

746
00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:53.039
<v Speaker 1>of the footsteps that had started occurring on the second floor,

747
00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:57.360
<v Speaker 1>heavy measured, always pacing the same path from the spare

748
00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:00.440
<v Speaker 1>bedroom to the top of the stairs and back. He

749
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:04.159
<v Speaker 1>also started talking to people in point pleasant quietly, carefully

750
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:08.039
<v Speaker 1>feeling out who might have had similar experiences, and he

751
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:11.719
<v Speaker 1>found them. A lot of them locals who'd spent time

752
00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:14.440
<v Speaker 1>in the TNT area and come home to disturbances they

753
00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:19.599
<v Speaker 1>couldn't explain. People who'd reported shadow figures orbsidings in their homes,

754
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:25.480
<v Speaker 1>electronic malfunctions, animals behaving strangely. The phenomenon was far more

755
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:30.719
<v Speaker 1>widespread than anyone publicly acknowledged. People just didn't talk about it, because, well,

756
00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:35.320
<v Speaker 1>who'd believe them. Kyle eventually connected with a researcher named

757
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:39.679
<v Speaker 1>Frank Ficino, who'd been investigating mothman and related phenomena in.

758
00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:40.719
<v Speaker 2>The area for years.

759
00:44:41.519 --> 00:44:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Facino told Kyle that what he was experiencing was consistent

760
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:47.760
<v Speaker 1>with what other witnesses had reported, and that the TNT

761
00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:51.360
<v Speaker 1>area seemed to function as a gateway, a location where

762
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:55.320
<v Speaker 1>something was capable of latching onto individuals and following them.

763
00:44:55.679 --> 00:44:59.320
<v Speaker 1>The activity in the Harmon household persisted for approximately seven

764
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:04.039
<v Speaker 1>months before gradually diminishing. Stay tuned for more Backwoods Bigfoot stories.

765
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:09.199
<v Speaker 1>We'll be back after these messages. It never fully stopped.

766
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:13.400
<v Speaker 1>While they lived in Mason County. Small things continued. The

767
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:18.039
<v Speaker 1>occasional electronic glitch, the rare cold spot, the feeling of

768
00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:21.639
<v Speaker 1>being watched in certain rooms at certain hours. In two

769
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:24.800
<v Speaker 1>thousand and six, Kyle transferred to a department in Charleston,

770
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:29.960
<v Speaker 1>West Virginia, and after the move, the phenomena ceased entirely. Emma,

771
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:32.480
<v Speaker 1>by then nine years old, stopped seeing the blue man.

772
00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:36.719
<v Speaker 1>She told her mother one day, casually that he stayed behind.

773
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:41.199
<v Speaker 1>Kyle Harmon retired from law enforcement in twenty eighteen, and

774
00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:43.679
<v Speaker 1>in his retirement he's become one of the more candid

775
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:48.400
<v Speaker 1>former officers I've spoken with about anomaloust experiences. He doesn't

776
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:52.119
<v Speaker 1>try to explain what happened. He doesn't theorize about interdimensional

777
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:55.760
<v Speaker 1>portals or government experiments or anything else. He just says

778
00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:59.280
<v Speaker 1>what he saw, what his family experienced, and leaves it

779
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:02.000
<v Speaker 1>at that. But he did say one thing that I

780
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:04.800
<v Speaker 1>think sums up the hitchhiker effect better than anything I've

781
00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:08.000
<v Speaker 1>ever read in a research paper. I walked into that

782
00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:11.639
<v Speaker 1>bunker as one person and walked out as another. Not

783
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:15.360
<v Speaker 1>because I changed, because something came out with me. And

784
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:17.360
<v Speaker 1>for a while it lived in my house and ate

785
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:21.280
<v Speaker 1>whatever it eats, fear maybe, or attention or something we

786
00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:23.880
<v Speaker 1>don't even have a word for yet. And when it

787
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:27.480
<v Speaker 1>was done, it left like we were a rest stop.

788
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:31.880
<v Speaker 1>A rest stop. Think about that. We'd like to believe

789
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:34.280
<v Speaker 1>we're at the top of the food chain, wouldn't we.

790
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:36.639
<v Speaker 1>We'd like to believe we're the most significant thing in

791
00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:39.519
<v Speaker 1>any room we walk into. But what if we're not?

792
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:43.280
<v Speaker 1>What if to whatever these things are, we're just a

793
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:46.280
<v Speaker 1>place to stop for a while. That thought keeps me

794
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:49.599
<v Speaker 1>up at night. All right, let's move to New England

795
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:51.960
<v Speaker 1>in a case that's practically tailor made for what we've

796
00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:56.199
<v Speaker 1>been discussing tonight. If you're a student of American paranormal history,

797
00:46:56.679 --> 00:47:00.000
<v Speaker 1>you've heard of the Bridgewater Triangle, a roughly two hundred

798
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:03.800
<v Speaker 1>square mile area in southeastern Massachusetts that's been a hot

799
00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:07.079
<v Speaker 1>bed of unexplained activity for as long as anyone can remember.

800
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:13.119
<v Speaker 1>We're talking UFO sightings, bigfoot encounters, ghost lights, phantom animals,

801
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:17.039
<v Speaker 1>reports of cult activity, and a general atmosphere of wrongness

802
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:20.360
<v Speaker 1>that locals have been noting since the colonial era. The

803
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Hackomock Swamp, which sits at the heart of the triangle,

804
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:27.559
<v Speaker 1>was named by the Wampanoague people. The word roughly translates

805
00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:32.159
<v Speaker 1>to place where spirits dwell. In the summer of twenty sixteen,

806
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:35.039
<v Speaker 1>a small documentary crew from Boston set out to film

807
00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:39.039
<v Speaker 1>a low budget feature about the Bridgewater Triangle. The director

808
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:42.280
<v Speaker 1>was a woman named Carla Simmons, a thirty six year

809
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:45.360
<v Speaker 1>old independent filmmaker who'd made a couple of well received

810
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:48.719
<v Speaker 1>short documentaries about local history and was looking for a

811
00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:52.840
<v Speaker 1>project with broader appeal. She brought along a cameraman named

812
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:57.239
<v Speaker 1>James Navarro, a sound engineer named Pria Desai, and a

813
00:47:57.280 --> 00:48:00.119
<v Speaker 1>production assistant named Tyler Beck, who was fresh out a

814
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:03.599
<v Speaker 1>film school and hungry for experience. None of them had

815
00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:07.880
<v Speaker 1>any background in paranormal research. They were filmmakers first, and

816
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:11.199
<v Speaker 1>their approach to the subject was more cultural than investigative.

817
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Carla wanted to explore why these legends persisted, what they

818
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:18.280
<v Speaker 1>meant to the communities that lived within the triangle, and

819
00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:22.440
<v Speaker 1>how folklore shapes a region's identity. She wasn't setting out

820
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:25.880
<v Speaker 1>to prove anything supernatural. She was making a film about

821
00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:29.519
<v Speaker 1>people and stories. They spent three weeks filming throughout the

822
00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:35.079
<v Speaker 1>triangle in July and August. They interviewed locals, historians, paranormal researchers,

823
00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:40.559
<v Speaker 1>and skeptics. They shot atmospheric footage at Hacamock Swamp. Profile Rock,

824
00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:44.039
<v Speaker 1>the Freetown Fall River State Forest, and a handful of

825
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:47.679
<v Speaker 1>other locations with reported activity, and for most of those

826
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:51.840
<v Speaker 1>three weeks it was exactly the straightforward documentary shoot Carla

827
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:55.320
<v Speaker 1>had planned. The problem started during their last night of

828
00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:59.119
<v Speaker 1>filming at Hackamock Swamp. They'd gotten special permission from the

829
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:02.320
<v Speaker 1>local conservation Commission to be in the swamp after dark,

830
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:05.000
<v Speaker 1>and they'd set up at a boardwalk area near the

831
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:08.599
<v Speaker 1>southern edge around nine in the evening. The plan was

832
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:13.000
<v Speaker 1>to get nighttime footage the swamp by moonlight, ambient sounds,

833
00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:16.679
<v Speaker 1>maybe some atmospheric shots with fog if they got lucky.

834
00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:22.199
<v Speaker 1>Simple stuff. The first thing they noticed was the silence. Priya,

835
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:25.639
<v Speaker 1>who was monitoring audio through her headphones, pulled them off

836
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:28.400
<v Speaker 1>and looked at James with an expression he later described

837
00:49:28.440 --> 00:49:32.320
<v Speaker 1>as bewildered. The swamp, which should have been a symphony

838
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:36.800
<v Speaker 1>of frogs, crickets and night birds, was completely silent. She

839
00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:39.719
<v Speaker 1>held up her audio levels for Carla to see. The

840
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:43.480
<v Speaker 1>meters showed absolutely nothing. They were standing in one of

841
00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:46.519
<v Speaker 1>the most biodiverse wetlands in New England and there was

842
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:50.880
<v Speaker 1>not a single sound. Then the lights appeared. James saw

843
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:55.320
<v Speaker 1>them first through his viewfinder. Three pale orange orbs rising

844
00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:58.760
<v Speaker 1>out of the swamp approximately three hundred yards to the northeast.

845
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:03.440
<v Speaker 1>They moved in a triangular formation, drifting slowly from left

846
00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:07.199
<v Speaker 1>to right, Hovering about ten feet above the water. They

847
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:10.559
<v Speaker 1>pulsated in a rhythm that Priya would later describe when

848
00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:14.960
<v Speaker 1>she found her words again as synchronized, all three brightening

849
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:18.719
<v Speaker 1>and dimming in perfect unison, like they were connected, like

850
00:50:18.760 --> 00:50:22.719
<v Speaker 1>they were one organism with three visible points. James filmed

851
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:25.719
<v Speaker 1>them for approximately ninety seconds before his camera died.

852
00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:29.159
<v Speaker 2>Battery showed full charge one moment zero.

853
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:34.920
<v Speaker 1>The next Pria's recording equipment shut down. Simultaneously, Tyler's phone,

854
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:37.679
<v Speaker 1>which he'd pulled out to snap photos, froze on a

855
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:40.079
<v Speaker 1>black screen and wouldn't respond to any input.

856
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:41.639
<v Speaker 2>The only light.

857
00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Source they had left was Carla's flashlight, and it was flickering.

858
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:48.920
<v Speaker 1>The orbs drifted closer. Carla made the call to leave.

859
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:52.159
<v Speaker 1>They gathered their dead equipment and moved quickly back along

860
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:56.199
<v Speaker 1>the boardwalk toward the parking area. As they walked, Tyler,

861
00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:58.760
<v Speaker 1>who was bringing up the rear, said he felt something

862
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:01.920
<v Speaker 1>touch the back of his neck, not a branch, not

863
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:07.199
<v Speaker 1>a bug, a hand five distinct points of pressure, cold

864
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:10.880
<v Speaker 1>gripping just firmly enough to make him stumble forward. He

865
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:15.199
<v Speaker 1>spun around nothing there. The boardwalk behind him was empty.

866
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:17.840
<v Speaker 1>They drove back to Boston that night, and by the

867
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:20.960
<v Speaker 1>time they reached Carla's apartment where they'd been editing, the

868
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:23.119
<v Speaker 1>mood in the car had shifted from fear to a

869
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:27.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of nervous excitement. They were filmmakers. They just experienced

870
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:32.039
<v Speaker 1>something genuinely strange. This was going to make their documentary incredible.

871
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:36.239
<v Speaker 1>They didn't realize yet that the documentary was over. Everything

872
00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:39.880
<v Speaker 1>that mattered was about to happen off camera. Priya was

873
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:43.679
<v Speaker 1>the first to notice changes. Within three days of the swampshoot,

874
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:47.960
<v Speaker 1>she began hearing sounds in her apartment that she couldn't source. Knocking,

875
00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:50.840
<v Speaker 1>not from the door, or the walls or the pipes,

876
00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:54.599
<v Speaker 1>but from inside her closet, Always from the closet in

877
00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:58.079
<v Speaker 1>her bedroom, always in the middle of the night, always

878
00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:01.960
<v Speaker 1>exactly three knocks. She'd open the closet and find nothing.

879
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:07.719
<v Speaker 1>The knocking would resume minutes later. James started experiencing visual disturbances,

880
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:12.239
<v Speaker 1>shadows that moved independently of any light source, sliding across

881
00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:15.920
<v Speaker 1>walls and ceilings. In his peripheral vision. He'd be editing

882
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:19.039
<v Speaker 1>footage and see something dark pass behind him reflected in

883
00:52:19.079 --> 00:52:22.039
<v Speaker 1>his monitor. He set up a GoPro in his apartment

884
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:24.840
<v Speaker 1>to try to catch it. When he reviewed the footage,

885
00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:28.159
<v Speaker 1>there was nothing visible, but the audio picked up something

886
00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:32.079
<v Speaker 1>a low frequency hum, well below what the human ear

887
00:52:32.119 --> 00:52:35.800
<v Speaker 1>typically registers, that would spike in intensity at the exact

888
00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:40.320
<v Speaker 1>moments James had reported seeing the shadows. Tyler, the youngest

889
00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:44.039
<v Speaker 1>of the group, had the most dramatic experience. He woke

890
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:46.280
<v Speaker 1>up one morning to find every piece of furniture in

891
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:50.679
<v Speaker 1>his studio apartment had been rearranged, not subtly. His bed

892
00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:53.599
<v Speaker 1>was in the kitchen, his desk was in the bathroom doorway.

893
00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:57.280
<v Speaker 1>His couch was flipped upside down. He lived on the

894
00:52:57.280 --> 00:52:59.880
<v Speaker 1>third floor of a walk up with no elevator. Of

895
00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:04.079
<v Speaker 1>his neighbors reported hearing anything during the night. Tyler called

896
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:08.519
<v Speaker 1>Carla at seven in the morning, hyperventilating. Carla's own experience

897
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:12.000
<v Speaker 1>was more subtle, but in some ways more disturbing. She

898
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:15.880
<v Speaker 1>began having intrusive thoughts, not her own thoughts, she insisted,

899
00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:20.440
<v Speaker 1>but thoughts that felt implanted, foreign, like someone else's voice

900
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:24.159
<v Speaker 1>speaking inside her head. They were always the same message,

901
00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:26.719
<v Speaker 1>repeated at random intervals throughout the day.

902
00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Come back.

903
00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:31.280
<v Speaker 1>That's it, two words, come back.

904
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:32.599
<v Speaker 2>She said.

905
00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:35.199
<v Speaker 1>It didn't feel like a command. It felt like an

906
00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:38.679
<v Speaker 1>invitation from something that missed her, something that wanted her

907
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:41.199
<v Speaker 1>to return to the swamp so it could be closer

908
00:53:41.239 --> 00:53:45.360
<v Speaker 1>to her. The crew stopped production on the documentary. The

909
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:49.039
<v Speaker 1>footage they'd captured, including what should have been ninety seconds of.

910
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:50.760
<v Speaker 2>The ORBS, was corrupted.

911
00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Every file from that final night was unreadable. Their IT

912
00:53:55.559 --> 00:53:58.880
<v Speaker 1>consultant couldn't recover any of it. Three weeks of filming

913
00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:02.840
<v Speaker 1>on other nights was fine. Only the swamp footage was destroyed.

914
00:54:03.639 --> 00:54:07.519
<v Speaker 1>Carla reached out to a paranormal research organization in Massachusetts,

915
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:11.719
<v Speaker 1>one connected with the long history of Bridgewater Triangle investigation,

916
00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:15.760
<v Speaker 1>and was told in no uncertain terms that what they

917
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:20.119
<v Speaker 1>were experiencing was a known phenomenon. The researcher she spoke

918
00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:23.679
<v Speaker 1>with used a term she'd never heard, the hitchhiker effect.

919
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:26.639
<v Speaker 1>He told her that the Hackamock Swamp was one of

920
00:54:26.719 --> 00:54:29.400
<v Speaker 1>the most active locations in the Triangle for this type

921
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:33.320
<v Speaker 1>of attachment, and that multiple people had reported similar experiences

922
00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:37.519
<v Speaker 1>after spending time there after dark. The researcher recommended a

923
00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:42.599
<v Speaker 1>specific protocol. Individually and collectively, the crew needed to firmly

924
00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:45.519
<v Speaker 1>and verbally state that they did not give permission for

925
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:48.920
<v Speaker 1>anything to follow them, to be in their homes, or

926
00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:51.960
<v Speaker 1>to interact with them in any way. He said this

927
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:54.840
<v Speaker 1>worked for some people and not others, and he couldn't

928
00:54:54.840 --> 00:54:58.599
<v Speaker 1>explain why, but he said the phenomenon typically ran its

929
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:03.239
<v Speaker 1>course in three to six month, regardless of intervention. Carla

930
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:05.599
<v Speaker 1>gathered her crew and they went through the protocol together.

931
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:09.719
<v Speaker 1>They each stated out loud that they revoked any permission

932
00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:13.159
<v Speaker 1>they might have inadvertently granted, and demanded that whatever was

933
00:55:13.159 --> 00:55:17.719
<v Speaker 1>affecting them leave. The results were mixed. For Priya and James,

934
00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:21.039
<v Speaker 1>the activity decreased noticeably within a week and was gone

935
00:55:21.119 --> 00:55:25.800
<v Speaker 1>within a month. For Tyler, it took longer, nearly four months,

936
00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:30.440
<v Speaker 1>but eventually the disturbances ceased. For Carla, the intrusive thoughts

937
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:35.440
<v Speaker 1>persisted for almost exactly six months, growing gradually quieter like

938
00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:39.480
<v Speaker 1>a radio signal, losing strength, until one morning she realized

939
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:43.400
<v Speaker 1>she hadn't heard come back in days. She never returned

940
00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:47.119
<v Speaker 1>to the swamp. She never finished the documentary. She switched

941
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:50.239
<v Speaker 1>to filming food content for a streaming platform and hasn't

942
00:55:50.239 --> 00:55:54.280
<v Speaker 1>worked on anything paranormal related since, but she still dreams

943
00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:58.639
<v Speaker 1>about the swamp. Every few months, she has the same dream.

944
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:01.199
<v Speaker 1>She's standing on the board walk in the dark, and

945
00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:04.159
<v Speaker 1>the three orange lights are hovering in the distance, and

946
00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:06.719
<v Speaker 1>she can feel them calling to her, and in the

947
00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:09.719
<v Speaker 1>dream she takes a step forward. She always takes a

948
00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:13.159
<v Speaker 1>step forward. She wakes up before she reaches them, but

949
00:56:13.239 --> 00:56:16.000
<v Speaker 1>each time she has the dream, she's a little bit closer.

950
00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I think whatever we stumbled into that night is patient,

951
00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:22.119
<v Speaker 1>she said. I think it's just waiting for me to

952
00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:25.159
<v Speaker 1>come back. And I'm afraid that eventually, in one of

953
00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:28.320
<v Speaker 1>those dreams, I'm going to reach those lights and I

954
00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:29.239
<v Speaker 1>don't know what happens.

955
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Then.

956
00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:32.599
<v Speaker 1>For our final account, tonight, we're going to bring this

957
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:35.039
<v Speaker 1>thing right up to the present day. And I got

958
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:38.039
<v Speaker 1>to tell you this one shook me partly because of

959
00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the intensity of what was reported, partly because of how

960
00:56:41.039 --> 00:56:43.960
<v Speaker 1>recently it happened, but mostly because the person at the

961
00:56:43.960 --> 00:56:48.039
<v Speaker 1>center of it is a podcaster like me, someone who

962
00:56:48.079 --> 00:56:51.480
<v Speaker 1>makes their living exploring these kinds of topics, who figured

963
00:56:51.480 --> 00:56:55.599
<v Speaker 1>that understanding these phenomena from an intellectual distance somehow made

964
00:56:55.639 --> 00:57:00.519
<v Speaker 1>them safe. It doesn't make you safe. Nothing makes you safe.

965
00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:03.119
<v Speaker 1>If there's one lesson these six stories have taught us,

966
00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:07.280
<v Speaker 1>it's that In the late summer of twenty twenty three,

967
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:11.480
<v Speaker 1>a podcaster and paranormal researcher who I'll call Marcus. He

968
00:57:11.599 --> 00:57:14.280
<v Speaker 1>asked me not to use his real name, which I'm respecting,

969
00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:18.079
<v Speaker 1>traveled to the San Luis Valley in southern Colorado to

970
00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:21.960
<v Speaker 1>research a series of episodes about cattle mutilations and UFO

971
00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:25.199
<v Speaker 1>activity in the region. If you're not familiar with the

972
00:57:25.239 --> 00:57:27.960
<v Speaker 1>San Luis Valley, let me give you the quick version.

973
00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:32.320
<v Speaker 1>It's a high altitude basin roughly the size of Connecticut,

974
00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:36.719
<v Speaker 1>surrounded by mountains, sparsely populated, and it's been the epicenter

975
00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:39.519
<v Speaker 1>of some of the most persistent anomalous activity in the

976
00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:46.480
<v Speaker 1>American West for decades. Cattle mutilations, black helicopter sidings, UFO encounters,

977
00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:50.280
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot reports, you name it, the San Luis Valley has

978
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:54.760
<v Speaker 1>it all. Christopher O'Brien spent years documenting the phenomena there

979
00:57:54.800 --> 00:57:58.480
<v Speaker 1>and wrote multiple books about what he called the Mysterious Valley.

980
00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:03.119
<v Speaker 1>Marcus had been podcasting for about four years primarily covering

981
00:58:03.239 --> 00:58:07.159
<v Speaker 1>UFO topics and government disclosure. He had a decent sized

982
00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:10.920
<v Speaker 1>audience and prided himself on a skeptical but open minded approach.

983
00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:16.480
<v Speaker 1>He'd visited plenty of locations associated with anomalous activity Roswell

984
00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:22.159
<v Speaker 1>Area fifty one perimeter, various alleged UFO crash sites without incident.

985
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:25.159
<v Speaker 1>He figured the San Luis Valley would be the same.

986
00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:29.119
<v Speaker 1>Great material for content, nothing that would follow him home.

987
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:32.599
<v Speaker 1>He set up base in Gunnison, about an hour north

988
00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:35.599
<v Speaker 1>of the valley, and spent eight days driving down each

989
00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:39.920
<v Speaker 1>morning to interview ranchers, visit mutilation sites, and explore the

990
00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:43.800
<v Speaker 1>areas where sightings had been concentrated. On his fifth day,

991
00:58:44.199 --> 00:58:48.360
<v Speaker 1>a rancher named and I'm changing this name too, Tom Gallegos,

992
00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:51.119
<v Speaker 1>took Marcus to a spot on his property where three

993
00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:54.039
<v Speaker 1>cattle had been found mutilated over the past two years.

994
00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:57.440
<v Speaker 1>It was an unremarkable piece of pasture at the base

995
00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:00.440
<v Speaker 1>of a low hill, bordered by scrub, oak and sage.

996
00:59:01.239 --> 00:59:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Nothing about it suggested anything unusual, but Tom was visibly

997
00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:08.599
<v Speaker 1>nervous being there. He told Marcus he avoided this part

998
00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:11.440
<v Speaker 1>of his property whenever possible, and that his cattle had

999
00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:15.480
<v Speaker 1>started refusing to graze there after the last mutilation. The

1000
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:18.480
<v Speaker 1>animals would get close and then veer off, finding their

1001
00:59:18.480 --> 00:59:21.719
<v Speaker 1>way around the area rather than through it. Tom said

1002
00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:24.760
<v Speaker 1>his dogs wouldn't go near it at all. Marcus set

1003
00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:29.679
<v Speaker 1>up recording equipment, microphone camera, a portable EMF detector he'd

1004
00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:34.159
<v Speaker 1>borrowed from a researcher friend. The EMF readings were unremarkable,

1005
00:59:34.440 --> 00:59:37.719
<v Speaker 1>The audio was clean. There was nothing to suggest anything

1006
00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:42.320
<v Speaker 1>anomalous about the location, except for the feeling. Marcus described

1007
00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:46.800
<v Speaker 1>it later as a pressure, not physical, but psychological, a

1008
00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:52.519
<v Speaker 1>feeling of being scrutinized by something he couldn't see, assessed, measured, weighed.

1009
00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:53.920
<v Speaker 2>He said it.

1010
00:59:53.880 --> 00:59:56.079
<v Speaker 1>Felt like standing in a room where you know someone

1011
00:59:56.159 --> 01:00:00.599
<v Speaker 1>is hiding, that prickling awareness of unseen eyes. Except it

1012
01:00:00.679 --> 01:00:03.079
<v Speaker 1>was daylight and they were in an open field with

1013
01:00:03.159 --> 01:00:05.719
<v Speaker 1>a clear line of sight in every direction. Stay tuned

1014
01:00:05.719 --> 01:00:09.719
<v Speaker 1>for more backwoods Bigfoot stories. We'll be back after these messages.

1015
01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:15.400
<v Speaker 1>There was nowhere for anything to hide, but something was there.

1016
01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:19.320
<v Speaker 1>He was certain of it, and more unsettling, he was

1017
01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:22.679
<v Speaker 1>certain it was certain of him. Tom wanted to leave,

1018
01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:26.760
<v Speaker 1>so they did. Marcus felt fine driving back to Gunnison

1019
01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:30.440
<v Speaker 1>that evening, he had dinner, reviewed his recordings, went to

1020
01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:34.519
<v Speaker 1>bed normal night. He woke up at three twelve am

1021
01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:36.800
<v Speaker 1>to the sound of his rental car's horn blaring in

1022
01:00:36.840 --> 01:00:40.719
<v Speaker 1>the parking lot outside his motel room. He stumbled outside

1023
01:00:40.719 --> 01:00:44.960
<v Speaker 1>to find the car silent, no horn, no alarm, nothing,

1024
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:48.960
<v Speaker 1>The car was locked. He checked it, went back inside,

1025
01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:54.920
<v Speaker 1>lay down. The horn went off again. He went outside again, silence.

1026
01:00:55.960 --> 01:00:59.440
<v Speaker 1>This repeated three more times before dawn. Each time he

1027
01:00:59.480 --> 01:01:03.159
<v Speaker 1>went outside, the horn stopped. Each time he lay back down,

1028
01:01:03.519 --> 01:01:06.519
<v Speaker 1>it started again. The front desk clerk told him the

1029
01:01:06.599 --> 01:01:09.000
<v Speaker 1>next morning that no one else had reported hearing a

1030
01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:13.199
<v Speaker 1>car horn. Marcus was in room fourteen. The clerk was

1031
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:16.480
<v Speaker 1>in the office directly adjacent to the parking lot. She'd

1032
01:01:16.519 --> 01:01:20.360
<v Speaker 1>heard nothing. Marcus stayed three more days to finish his research,

1033
01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:24.360
<v Speaker 1>and during those three days small things happened. His phone

1034
01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:27.840
<v Speaker 1>would die at full charge, his recordings would have gaps

1035
01:01:28.440 --> 01:01:30.840
<v Speaker 1>five to ten minute sections of dead silence in the

1036
01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:35.360
<v Speaker 1>middle of otherwise continuous audio. His motel room television turned

1037
01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:39.360
<v Speaker 1>on by itself twice, both times to static, both times

1038
01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:42.239
<v Speaker 1>at three twelve in the morning. Then he drove home

1039
01:01:42.280 --> 01:01:45.960
<v Speaker 1>to Denver and it escalated. The first week back was

1040
01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:51.119
<v Speaker 1>subtle electronics acting up, lights flickering, his computer crashing during

1041
01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:55.920
<v Speaker 1>editing sessions, his smart home devices activating at random. His

1042
01:01:56.000 --> 01:01:59.599
<v Speaker 1>Alexa started responding to questions no one had asked, offering

1043
01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:04.159
<v Speaker 1>answers to queries that were, in Marcus's words, uncomfortably relevant

1044
01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:07.599
<v Speaker 1>to his research. One night, while he was editing audio

1045
01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:13.760
<v Speaker 1>from a Rancher interview in his home office, his Alexa, unprompted, unqueried, said,

1046
01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:19.199
<v Speaker 1>the valley misses you. Marcus disconnected the Alexa. He unplugged

1047
01:02:19.199 --> 01:02:22.400
<v Speaker 1>every smart device in his apartment. The next morning, he

1048
01:02:22.440 --> 01:02:25.400
<v Speaker 1>found his laptop open on the kitchen table, displaying a

1049
01:02:25.400 --> 01:02:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Google Map satellite view of the exact pasture where Tom

1050
01:02:28.440 --> 01:02:31.679
<v Speaker 1>had taken him. He lived alone, no one else had

1051
01:02:31.719 --> 01:02:34.960
<v Speaker 1>access to his apartment. The laptop had been closed and

1052
01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:38.280
<v Speaker 1>in his office bag. The night before week two brought

1053
01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:41.679
<v Speaker 1>the shadow. Marcus saw it first in the bathroom mirror,

1054
01:02:41.920 --> 01:02:45.079
<v Speaker 1>standing behind him while he was brushing his teeth, A

1055
01:02:45.119 --> 01:02:48.320
<v Speaker 1>figure roughly his height, composed of what he described as

1056
01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:52.480
<v Speaker 1>living darkness, not an absence of light, but an active, dense,

1057
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:55.559
<v Speaker 1>three dimensional mass of blackness that seemed to absorb the

1058
01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:59.800
<v Speaker 1>light around it. He spun around nothing there, looked back

1059
01:02:59.840 --> 01:03:04.159
<v Speaker 1>at the mirror, gone. He saw it again two nights later,

1060
01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:07.679
<v Speaker 1>standing in the hallway outside his bedroom. He turned on

1061
01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:10.440
<v Speaker 1>the light and it vanished. He turned the light off,

1062
01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:13.280
<v Speaker 1>and it was there again, exactly where it had been,

1063
01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:16.760
<v Speaker 1>as if the darkness had simply reassembled around a form

1064
01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:19.440
<v Speaker 1>that had been there all along and was merely hidden

1065
01:03:19.480 --> 01:03:23.519
<v Speaker 1>by the light, not dispersed by it. Then came the sounds.

1066
01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Not knocking, not footsteps, voice, a low, guttural murmuring that

1067
01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:32.480
<v Speaker 1>seemed to come from inside the walls of his apartment.

1068
01:03:33.320 --> 01:03:37.559
<v Speaker 1>Not words, at least, not words in any language Marcus recognized,

1069
01:03:38.039 --> 01:03:43.559
<v Speaker 1>but clearly vocalization, clearly intentional, clearly directed at him. It

1070
01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:46.000
<v Speaker 1>happened nightly, between three and four in the morning.

1071
01:03:46.360 --> 01:03:47.119
<v Speaker 2>He recorded it.

1072
01:03:48.039 --> 01:03:50.800
<v Speaker 1>When he played the recordings for a linguist contact, the

1073
01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:55.360
<v Speaker 1>linguist said the phone patterns were structured. There was syntax, repetition,

1074
01:03:55.880 --> 01:03:59.400
<v Speaker 1>what appeared to be grammar. It sounded like language, but

1075
01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:03.920
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't any known language. Marcus reached out to Christopher O'Brien,

1076
01:04:04.239 --> 01:04:08.800
<v Speaker 1>the San Luis Valley researcher. O'Brien wasn't surprised, he told

1077
01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Marcus that what he was experiencing was consistent with reports

1078
01:04:11.960 --> 01:04:15.559
<v Speaker 1>from other researchers and visitors to the valley. He called

1079
01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:19.519
<v Speaker 1>it the hitchhiker effect, and explained that whatever intelligence operated

1080
01:04:19.559 --> 01:04:22.159
<v Speaker 1>in the valley seemed to have the ability to attach

1081
01:04:22.199 --> 01:04:26.239
<v Speaker 1>itself to individuals and follow them to their homes, sometimes

1082
01:04:26.280 --> 01:04:30.599
<v Speaker 1>across hundreds of miles. O'Brien had documented dozens of similar

1083
01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:36.039
<v Speaker 1>cases over the years. The situation deteriorated, Marcus's apartment building

1084
01:04:36.119 --> 01:04:40.239
<v Speaker 1>started experiencing anomalies that affected his neighbors. The couple in

1085
01:04:40.280 --> 01:04:43.360
<v Speaker 1>the unit below him reported hearing heavy footsteps above them

1086
01:04:43.400 --> 01:04:47.760
<v Speaker 1>at all hours, footsteps Marcus insisted he wasn't making because

1087
01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:51.199
<v Speaker 1>he was lying in bed, motionless, listening to the same

1088
01:04:51.239 --> 01:04:54.800
<v Speaker 1>footsteps in his own apartment. The woman across the hall

1089
01:04:54.880 --> 01:04:57.440
<v Speaker 1>told Marcus her cat had started staring at his door

1090
01:04:57.480 --> 01:05:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and hissing, arching its back, refu using to walk past

1091
01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:05.159
<v Speaker 1>his unit in the hallway. Marcus's mental health declined. He

1092
01:05:05.159 --> 01:05:09.800
<v Speaker 1>stopped sleeping well, he lost weight, He became jumpy and irritable.

1093
01:05:10.400 --> 01:05:13.239
<v Speaker 1>He said that he'd always been a rational person, someone

1094
01:05:13.239 --> 01:05:16.280
<v Speaker 1>who investigated these things from a safe distance, and that

1095
01:05:16.400 --> 01:05:20.880
<v Speaker 1>having the distance collapse, having the phenomenon move into his life,

1096
01:05:21.159 --> 01:05:25.360
<v Speaker 1>his home, his body was the most disorienting experience.

1097
01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:26.199
<v Speaker 2>Of his life.

1098
01:05:26.280 --> 01:05:28.679
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't just the fear, it was the loss of

1099
01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:32.840
<v Speaker 1>the boundary between observer and observed. He'd spent years studying

1100
01:05:32.920 --> 01:05:36.239
<v Speaker 1>these phenomena as if they were specimens under glass, and

1101
01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:40.239
<v Speaker 1>now the glass had shattered and the specimen was studying him.

1102
01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:43.239
<v Speaker 1>In November of twenty twenty three, Marcus conducted what he

1103
01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:47.960
<v Speaker 1>called a scorched Earth protocol. He'd talked to researchers, psychics,

1104
01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:53.280
<v Speaker 1>religious figures, and indigenous elders. He compiled every recommended approach

1105
01:05:53.320 --> 01:05:56.199
<v Speaker 1>to ending a hitchhiker attachment and did all of them.

1106
01:05:56.800 --> 01:05:59.880
<v Speaker 1>He had his apartment blessed by a priest. He smudged

1107
01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:03.519
<v Speaker 1>the white sage. He performed a banishing ritual he'd gotten

1108
01:06:03.559 --> 01:06:06.760
<v Speaker 1>from a ceremonial magician in Boulder. He stood in the

1109
01:06:06.800 --> 01:06:10.159
<v Speaker 1>center of his apartment and stated loudly and firmly that

1110
01:06:10.239 --> 01:06:13.159
<v Speaker 1>he revoked any and all permission for any entity to

1111
01:06:13.199 --> 01:06:16.000
<v Speaker 1>be present in his space, that he did not consent

1112
01:06:16.079 --> 01:06:18.800
<v Speaker 1>to contact, and that whatever had followed him from the

1113
01:06:18.840 --> 01:06:22.280
<v Speaker 1>San Luis Valley needed to return to where it came from.

1114
01:06:22.599 --> 01:06:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Whether it was one specific intervention, or the cumulative weight

1115
01:06:26.199 --> 01:06:28.599
<v Speaker 1>of all of them, or simply that the phenomenon had

1116
01:06:28.679 --> 01:06:32.440
<v Speaker 1>run its natural course. The activity began to decrease that

1117
01:06:32.599 --> 01:06:37.280
<v Speaker 1>same week. By December, the shadow was gone, the voices stopped,

1118
01:06:37.679 --> 01:06:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the electronics normalized, His neighbour's cat stopped hissing at his door.

1119
01:06:42.719 --> 01:06:45.119
<v Speaker 1>But Marcus said, and this is the part of his

1120
01:06:45.159 --> 01:06:48.280
<v Speaker 1>story that keeps circling back in my mind, that something

1121
01:06:48.280 --> 01:06:52.000
<v Speaker 1>fundamental changed in him during those three months. He said,

1122
01:06:52.039 --> 01:06:54.440
<v Speaker 1>it felt like something had been taken from him, some

1123
01:06:54.599 --> 01:06:57.519
<v Speaker 1>essential quality of self that he couldn't name or quantify,

1124
01:06:57.960 --> 01:07:01.360
<v Speaker 1>but could absolutely feel the absence of of like a

1125
01:07:01.400 --> 01:07:03.760
<v Speaker 1>color had been removed from his vision that he didn't

1126
01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:07.239
<v Speaker 1>know existed until it was gone. He said, he felt

1127
01:07:07.320 --> 01:07:09.119
<v Speaker 1>lighter in a way that should have been a relief,

1128
01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:12.639
<v Speaker 1>but instead felt like a loss. I think it fed

1129
01:07:12.679 --> 01:07:16.239
<v Speaker 1>on something, whatever it was. It took something from me

1130
01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:19.360
<v Speaker 1>when it left, some piece of energy or spirit or

1131
01:07:19.559 --> 01:07:21.719
<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to call it, and I don't think

1132
01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get it back. Marcus hasn't traveled to

1133
01:07:24.920 --> 01:07:29.239
<v Speaker 1>investigate a site in person since he conducts interviews remotely. Now,

1134
01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:32.280
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't been back to the San Luis Valley. He

1135
01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:35.719
<v Speaker 1>says he never will, and he stopped podcasting about the

1136
01:07:35.719 --> 01:07:39.480
<v Speaker 1>paranormal three months ago. He didn't make an announcement, he

1137
01:07:39.599 --> 01:07:42.800
<v Speaker 1>just stopped. He said it was because he finally understood

1138
01:07:43.039 --> 01:07:47.679
<v Speaker 1>that these things aren't stories. They're not content, they're not episodes.

1139
01:07:48.159 --> 01:07:51.480
<v Speaker 1>They're alive and they're aware and they know when you're

1140
01:07:51.480 --> 01:07:54.840
<v Speaker 1>talking about them. That last sentence has been living in

1141
01:07:54.880 --> 01:07:57.480
<v Speaker 1>my head rent free since he said it. And you

1142
01:07:57.559 --> 01:08:00.480
<v Speaker 1>know what, I think Marcus is right. I think that's

1143
01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:02.440
<v Speaker 1>the piece of the puzzle we keep missing when we

1144
01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:05.800
<v Speaker 1>try to analyze these things from a distance. We treat

1145
01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:10.199
<v Speaker 1>the hitchhiker effect like a scientific phenomenon to be studied, categorized,

1146
01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:13.719
<v Speaker 1>and filed away. We give it a name, we document

1147
01:08:13.760 --> 01:08:17.399
<v Speaker 1>the patterns, we note the commonalities between cases, and we

1148
01:08:17.439 --> 01:08:21.359
<v Speaker 1>feel like we've accomplished something. But naming a thing isn't

1149
01:08:21.359 --> 01:08:24.239
<v Speaker 1>the same as understanding it, and understanding it isn't the

1150
01:08:24.279 --> 01:08:28.039
<v Speaker 1>same as being safe from it. What Marcus learned, what

1151
01:08:28.199 --> 01:08:31.439
<v Speaker 1>all six of these witnesses learned, is that the boundary

1152
01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:35.840
<v Speaker 1>between researcher and subject doesn't exist in these spaces. You

1153
01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:38.279
<v Speaker 1>can't observe from a safe distance when the thing you're

1154
01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:42.119
<v Speaker 1>observing can close that distance at will. And the worst part,

1155
01:08:42.439 --> 01:08:44.239
<v Speaker 1>the part that should keep every one of us up

1156
01:08:44.279 --> 01:08:46.840
<v Speaker 1>at night, is that we still don't know the rules.

1157
01:08:47.479 --> 01:08:50.520
<v Speaker 1>We don't know what attracts these things. We don't know

1158
01:08:50.600 --> 01:08:53.680
<v Speaker 1>why they choose certain people and not others. We don't

1159
01:08:53.720 --> 01:08:56.199
<v Speaker 1>know if the protocols and the blessings and the banishing

1160
01:08:56.279 --> 01:09:00.000
<v Speaker 1>rituals actually work, or if the phenomenon simply runs its

1161
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:02.840
<v Speaker 1>course on its own timeline regardless of what we do.

1162
01:09:03.640 --> 01:09:06.279
<v Speaker 1>We're operating blind and the thing on the other side

1163
01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:09.479
<v Speaker 1>of the equation is not so. There you have it, folks.

1164
01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Six accounts, six decades, six locations, spread across this country,

1165
01:09:14.920 --> 01:09:19.640
<v Speaker 1>from Utah to Georgia, Oregon to West Virginia, Massachusetts to Colorado.

1166
01:09:20.439 --> 01:09:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Different witnesses, different backgrounds, different belief systems. A rancher, an

1167
01:09:25.560 --> 01:09:31.680
<v Speaker 1>investigator newlyweds, a deputy, filmmakers, and a podcaster, people with

1168
01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:33.880
<v Speaker 1>nothing in common except that they all went to a

1169
01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:36.560
<v Speaker 1>place where something was waiting, and they all brought it

1170
01:09:36.600 --> 01:09:39.359
<v Speaker 1>home with them. And now here's the part where I'm

1171
01:09:39.359 --> 01:09:41.439
<v Speaker 1>supposed to wrap this up with a neat little bow,

1172
01:09:42.119 --> 01:09:45.199
<v Speaker 1>maybe offer some theory about what these things are, where

1173
01:09:45.199 --> 01:09:48.479
<v Speaker 1>they come from, why they attach to certain people and

1174
01:09:48.560 --> 01:09:51.479
<v Speaker 1>not others. But I'm not going to do that because

1175
01:09:51.479 --> 01:09:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't have those answers. Nobody does, not the scientists,

1176
01:09:56.279 --> 01:09:59.760
<v Speaker 1>not the researchers, not the indigenous elders who've known about

1177
01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:04.439
<v Speaker 1>these places for centuries. We've got observations, we've got patterns,

1178
01:10:04.920 --> 01:10:08.000
<v Speaker 1>We've got a name, the hitchhiker effect that gives us

1179
01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:12.119
<v Speaker 1>the illusion of understanding without actually explaining a thing. What

1180
01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you is what the evidence suggests, and

1181
01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:18.239
<v Speaker 1>what it suggests is this, there are places on this

1182
01:10:18.319 --> 01:10:21.439
<v Speaker 1>earth where the rules we think we understand do not apply.

1183
01:10:22.479 --> 01:10:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Places where something exists that is intelligent, aware, and capable

1184
01:10:26.279 --> 01:10:29.319
<v Speaker 1>of interacting with human beings in ways that transcend our

1185
01:10:29.399 --> 01:10:33.960
<v Speaker 1>understanding of physics, consciousness, and the nature of reality itself.

1186
01:10:34.840 --> 01:10:39.239
<v Speaker 1>These things, whatever they are, can sense us, they can

1187
01:10:39.279 --> 01:10:42.239
<v Speaker 1>follow us, and they can enter our lives in ways

1188
01:10:42.279 --> 01:10:46.640
<v Speaker 1>that are tangible, measurable, and profoundly disturbing. If you're the

1189
01:10:46.680 --> 01:10:49.479
<v Speaker 1>type of person who seeks out these places, and I

1190
01:10:49.560 --> 01:10:52.359
<v Speaker 1>know a lot of you listening are because you're curious,

1191
01:10:52.840 --> 01:10:56.439
<v Speaker 1>because you're brave, because you need to know, I'm not

1192
01:10:56.439 --> 01:10:58.640
<v Speaker 1>going to tell you to stop. I'm not going to

1193
01:10:58.680 --> 01:11:01.000
<v Speaker 1>tell you to stay home and lock your doors and

1194
01:11:01.079 --> 01:11:04.720
<v Speaker 1>never explore the unknown. That's not who we are, that's

1195
01:11:04.760 --> 01:11:07.079
<v Speaker 1>not who I am. But I am going to tell

1196
01:11:07.119 --> 01:11:09.760
<v Speaker 1>you to be aware. Be aware that when you stand

1197
01:11:09.800 --> 01:11:12.960
<v Speaker 1>in a place of high strangeness, you're not just observing,

1198
01:11:13.399 --> 01:11:17.159
<v Speaker 1>You're participating. You're announcing your presence to something that may

1199
01:11:17.199 --> 01:11:21.039
<v Speaker 1>decide you're worth following. And if it does, if something

1200
01:11:21.119 --> 01:11:25.520
<v Speaker 1>latches on, know that you're not crazy and you're not alone.

1201
01:11:25.560 --> 01:11:29.159
<v Speaker 1>Thousands of people have experienced this. The phenomenon is real,

1202
01:11:29.640 --> 01:11:32.279
<v Speaker 1>it's documented, and eventually, in most.

1203
01:11:32.079 --> 01:11:33.439
<v Speaker 2>Cases, it lets go.

1204
01:11:34.119 --> 01:11:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll leave you with this thought because it's the one

1205
01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:38.039
<v Speaker 1>I keep coming back to when I lie awake at

1206
01:11:38.159 --> 01:11:41.840
<v Speaker 1>night thinking about these accounts. Every single one of these

1207
01:11:41.920 --> 01:11:44.920
<v Speaker 1>witnesses told us, in one way or another that the

1208
01:11:45.039 --> 01:11:49.159
<v Speaker 1>experience changed the way they understand reality. Not their beliefs

1209
01:11:49.199 --> 01:11:53.479
<v Speaker 1>about ghosts or spirits or the paranormal, their fundamental understanding

1210
01:11:53.560 --> 01:11:57.319
<v Speaker 1>of what reality is. Because once you've watched a television

1211
01:11:57.359 --> 01:12:00.159
<v Speaker 1>turn on with no power source, once you've seen in

1212
01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:03.359
<v Speaker 1>a shadow that thinks and watches and chooses, once you've

1213
01:12:03.399 --> 01:12:05.920
<v Speaker 1>heard a voice speaking a language that doesn't exist from

1214
01:12:05.960 --> 01:12:09.560
<v Speaker 1>inside the walls of your home, the comfortable assumptions that

1215
01:12:09.640 --> 01:12:12.920
<v Speaker 1>hold your world together start to crack, and they don't

1216
01:12:12.920 --> 01:12:17.479
<v Speaker 1>crack quietly, they shatter. These aren't ghost stories. These aren't

1217
01:12:17.479 --> 01:12:20.479
<v Speaker 1>creepy pasta tales written to give you goosebumps before bed.

1218
01:12:21.279 --> 01:12:26.039
<v Speaker 1>These are real people. A rancher, an investigator newlyweds, a

1219
01:12:26.119 --> 01:12:30.800
<v Speaker 1>law enforcement officer, filmmakers, and a podcaster whose lives were

1220
01:12:30.840 --> 01:12:34.119
<v Speaker 1>turned inside out by something that science can't explain and

1221
01:12:34.199 --> 01:12:38.119
<v Speaker 1>most of society refuses to acknowledge. They didn't go looking

1222
01:12:38.159 --> 01:12:41.079
<v Speaker 1>for trouble. They went to a place, and something at

1223
01:12:41.079 --> 01:12:43.920
<v Speaker 1>that place decided they were interesting enough to follow home,

1224
01:12:44.680 --> 01:12:48.800
<v Speaker 1>And for weeks, for months, sometimes longer, they lived with

1225
01:12:48.840 --> 01:12:51.359
<v Speaker 1>something in their homes that had no business being there,

1226
01:12:51.960 --> 01:12:57.760
<v Speaker 1>something intelligent, something hungry, something patient. Stay safe out there, folks,

1227
01:12:58.199 --> 01:13:01.239
<v Speaker 1>and maybe think twice before you follow that trail into

1228
01:13:01.279 --> 01:13:03.960
<v Speaker 1>the dark, because you might not be the only one

1229
01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:07.920
<v Speaker 1>walking that trail, and whatever's walking beside you might decide

1230
01:13:07.920 --> 01:13:10.239
<v Speaker 1>to follow you all the way home. And if you

1231
01:13:10.239 --> 01:14:11.199
<v Speaker 1>hear something knocking in sets of three, don't answer. Di

1232
01:16:20.119 --> 01:16:20.239
<v Speaker 1>La
