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<v Speaker 1>This episode makintain content of a graphic nature, including descriptions

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<v Speaker 1>of physical and sexual violence against adults, children, and animals.

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<v Speaker 1>Listener discretion is advised.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Shannon.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi I'm Tanya, and we are Crimes and Consequences, a

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<v Speaker 2>hardcore true crime podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey Shannon, Hey Tanya.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you.

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<v Speaker 3>Doing pretty good today? How about you?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a Friday. I'm having a good day. What about you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my day's fantastic. You know, live in the dream

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<v Speaker 3>and I could hear it in your voice.

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<v Speaker 2>You I can.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a wonderful day in the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, what I'm gonna do for us is I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to finish up that Andre Romanov, bitch Chica Till Story.

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<v Speaker 3>The Red Ripper, that fucking horrible guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and I left you guys kind of hanging halfway.

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<v Speaker 2>I left you guys with his works up to ninety two,

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<v Speaker 2>so we still have plenty of years to go with

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<v Speaker 2>his work, right, But I'm gonna remind you that of

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<v Speaker 2>his monikers of the Red Ripper, the Butcher of Rosta,

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<v Speaker 2>the Rostov Ripper, the Forest strip Killer, and the Mad Beast,

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<v Speaker 2>he earned every single one of those. I ended by

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<v Speaker 2>letting everybody know. You guys know that in nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 2>two he had took the lives of six more innocent people.

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<v Speaker 2>And the last person I had mentioned was Olga so

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<v Speaker 2>Ma chuen Up and that was on December eleventh. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna start again with Olga's story. Okay, so Olga,

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<v Speaker 2>she had been lured into a cornfield at the edge

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<v Speaker 2>of town where he overtook her. He did what he

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<v Speaker 2>wanted with her while he stabbed her more than fifty

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<v Speaker 2>times all over her body. He gouged her eyes out

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<v Speaker 2>as well, and he didn't stop there. He decided to

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<v Speaker 2>cut open her stomach, where he reached inside and pulled

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<v Speaker 2>out her bowels and uterus. Then he just left her there. Sadly,

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<v Speaker 2>she wouldn't be found for almost two whole months. Now

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<v Speaker 2>police were beginning to notice the culprit they were looking

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<v Speaker 2>for had developed and now followed a kind of pattern.

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<v Speaker 2>So far, they knew all of the victims had been

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<v Speaker 2>stabbed and cut up in very gruesome ways, whether that

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<v Speaker 2>meant having their eyes gouged out of their head, their

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<v Speaker 2>genitals completely removed from their body, or being disemboweled. The

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<v Speaker 2>bodies of victims had been founded. Bodies of their victims

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<v Speaker 2>had been found in isolated yet heavily wooded areas on

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<v Speaker 2>the outskirts of town, which were within walking distance of

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<v Speaker 2>bus and train stations. They also noted that when their

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<v Speaker 2>killer was finished with the bodies, he made a half

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<v Speaker 2>assed attempt at trying to bury or conceal them in

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<v Speaker 2>any way. These were the facts, and so that's what

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<v Speaker 2>investigators started with. They started a police operation called lessel

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<v Speaker 2>Pulosa aka forest Path. After all, this was where Andre

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<v Speaker 2>did his killing. And as for the nature of the killings,

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<v Speaker 2>they got pretty bad. Police believed that the culprit was

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<v Speaker 2>prolonging his killings because he was taking genuine pleasure from

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<v Speaker 2>the act. Not just because of the numerous stab loans,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes upwards of thirty or more, but many of the

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<v Speaker 2>bodies were horribly mutilated. Some stomachs were completely ripped open,

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<v Speaker 2>while some were can you this mess? This diabolical? Some

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<v Speaker 2>were completely ripped open, while some were missing sex organs

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<v Speaker 2>that had been chopped off. Mainly, though, it was the

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<v Speaker 2>eyes that got them. Pretty much everybody that had been

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<v Speaker 2>found had stab wounds around the eyes. They would later

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<v Speaker 2>learn that the reason he removed the eyes was attributed

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<v Speaker 2>to a belief that his victims kept an imprint of

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<v Speaker 2>his face in their eyes even after death. But the

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<v Speaker 2>term serial killer was still something new to the Soviet Union,

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<v Speaker 2>as they believed the term to be a Western thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Needless to say, they weren't too keen on admitting that

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<v Speaker 2>they had a phenomenon such as a serial killer on

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<v Speaker 2>their hands. Instead of alerting the media and the people,

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<v Speaker 2>they decided to keep it quiet. Andrea took a break

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<v Speaker 2>for a bit, but not long. In June of nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty three, Dray killed fifteen year old Laura Sarkizen, whose

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<v Speaker 2>body was never found. The police only learned of this

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<v Speaker 2>murder after Andrea was caught and confessed to it years later.

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<v Speaker 2>In July, Andre killed thirteen year old Ira Doan Doan

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<v Speaker 2>and Colva, and a twenty four and a twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>year old woman named Loda Cotajoba. On August eighth, he

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<v Speaker 2>took the life of seven year old Igor goodov Kop.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometime that same summer, he killed an eighteen year old

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<v Speaker 2>girl who still remains unidentified to this day. In September,

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<v Speaker 2>Andre killed twenty two year old Belayah so Jolina. At

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<v Speaker 2>this point, the police believed the killings to be done

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<v Speaker 2>by that of someone who was mentally handicapped due to

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<v Speaker 2>their ghastly nature, so acting on these assumptions, they brought

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<v Speaker 2>in their first two suspects, two young men named Kallenik

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<v Speaker 2>and Shaburrah, who were residents of a special hostel for

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<v Speaker 2>the handicap. They were initially brought in. They were initially

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<v Speaker 2>brought in when they were arrested for trying to steal

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<v Speaker 2>a car. Now that should have been their only charges,

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<v Speaker 2>but the investigators, going off of their suspicions, somehow managed

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<v Speaker 2>to get two confessions from both men claiming that they

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<v Speaker 2>had raped and killed a number of women and children.

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<v Speaker 2>Has been a controversy since many accused the police of

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote infringement of legality. While the two men were

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<v Speaker 2>being interrogated, two more bodies popped up.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's kind of course he never yeah, no, he's

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<v Speaker 3>never stopping. No.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the infringement of legality, is that just a fancy

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<v Speaker 2>word for saying you bully the confessions.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I guess so that could probably be it like

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<v Speaker 4>a wrongful confession.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>On October twenty seventh, Andre killed nineteen year old via

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<v Speaker 2>Sev Cohen, and on December twenty seventh, he killed a

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen year old boy named Sergei Markov. He stabbed him

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<v Speaker 2>more than seventy times and sawed off his genitals with

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<v Speaker 2>a knife. God damn so horrible. So so then police

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<v Speaker 2>brought in two more guys from the same mentally handicaped

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<v Speaker 2>hostile name tap and Hana Maarov. Again, both men confess quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, there were doubts once again about how police

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<v Speaker 2>extracted the confessions. Wrapping up in the end of nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty three, Andre had taken the lives of seventeen people. However,

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<v Speaker 2>only six bodies had been recovered. This was a huge

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<v Speaker 2>concern for the Central Moscow militia as they were alarmed

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<v Speaker 2>by the number of dead children that had surfaced. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>do you think, right, yeah, all these this is terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>If I lived in this community, I'd be like, what

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<v Speaker 4>the hell is the police doing? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Beating people into confessing bullshit? Yeah, trying to sweep everything

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<v Speaker 2>under the rug and make it easy for them, do

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<v Speaker 2>some fucking footwork.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly Like you get these confessions, these wrongful confessions

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<v Speaker 4>out of people, and the killings don't stop. Because you've

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<v Speaker 4>got the wrong fucking person. Yeah, you're trying to make

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<v Speaker 4>it so easy for you, right, that's all you're doing.

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<v Speaker 4>A new team was sent to Rostov to take over

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<v Speaker 4>the investigation, which was headed by Major Armikil Vetisov and

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<v Speaker 4>his team, and after reviewing all of the findings so far,

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<v Speaker 4>they confirmed that all six murders were the work of

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<v Speaker 4>the same sex crazed killer. While Moscow headquarters reluctantly accepted

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<v Speaker 4>these findings, they weren't about to begin calling the suspect

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<v Speaker 4>a serial killer just yet. After all, this type of

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<v Speaker 4>behavior was simply not possible in Russian culture, or so

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<v Speaker 4>they thought. Police took the samples of seamen which had

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<v Speaker 4>been taken from the victims, and it showed that the

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<v Speaker 4>killer had Type A by blood. During the police investigation,

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<v Speaker 4>hundreds of suspects were brought in for questioning. If any

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<v Speaker 4>of the suspects matched, they were detained for further questioning

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<v Speaker 4>and those that didn't were released. In nineteen eighty four,

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<v Speaker 4>Andre was on a rampage. From January to September alone,

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen new murders had been committed. On January nineteen eighty four,

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<v Speaker 4>Andre killed seventeen year old Italia Jealoupe. Her body was

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<v Speaker 4>found the next day by workers in Aviator's Park. Her

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<v Speaker 4>body was covered in stab loans and her nose and

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<v Speaker 4>upper lip had been cut off, as well as one

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<v Speaker 4>of the fingers on her left hand. On February first,

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<v Speaker 4>Andre killed a forty four year old woman named Marta Rebdjenko.

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<v Speaker 4>Five days later, police arrested a name a man named Beskorski,

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<v Speaker 4>who was not far from the scene of the crime.

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<v Speaker 4>He too was slightly mentally handicapped and had been taken

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<v Speaker 4>in after allegedly raping a tramp in the woods nearby,

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<v Speaker 4>and even though there wasn't any solid evidence against him,

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<v Speaker 4>the coincidence was too great for the police. As a result,

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<v Speaker 4>Beskorski was arrested with two murders, which he had confessed to,

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<v Speaker 4>just like the four other people before.

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<v Speaker 3>Him that were all innocent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, then, just the same as the others before him.

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<v Speaker 2>He later withdrew his confession, claiming it was obtained while

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<v Speaker 2>under duress. However, by that time he was already in

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<v Speaker 2>jail and it was too late. But then a month

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<v Speaker 2>later another killing took place. Andre killed a ten year

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<v Speaker 2>old boy named Dima pashnikov on March twenty fourth, and

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<v Speaker 2>his body had a crazy number of stab wounds fifty

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<v Speaker 2>four altogether on a ten.

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<v Speaker 3>Year old boy.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, and this made the police realize the killer was

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<v Speaker 2>still on the loose. No shit, Sherlock, you know you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get the right confession. However, this time they found

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<v Speaker 2>a piece of evidence not far from the body, a

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<v Speaker 2>footprint found in the muddy ground. It wasn't much as

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<v Speaker 2>it was an incomplete print, but they could tell it

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<v Speaker 2>belonged to someone who wore a large size shoe. His

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<v Speaker 2>next murder was an interesting one. Andre usually only dealt

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<v Speaker 2>with children and women who were prostitutes, drugs or druggies.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only that, but they were always spontaneous kills. But

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<v Speaker 2>at this time though, this time he made plans to

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<v Speaker 2>meet with his former mistress, thirty two year old Tanya

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<v Speaker 2>Petrocian and her eleven year old daughter Feta Petrocian, and

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<v Speaker 2>this was on May twenty fifth. After getting off the

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<v Speaker 2>train together, the three walked for about ten minutes closer

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<v Speaker 2>to the woods. Andre coaxed Tanya to lay down with him,

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<v Speaker 2>and Sveeda got the hints she began making her way

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<v Speaker 2>further into the woods. To leave them alone and to play,

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<v Speaker 2>and then, when alone, the two began getting intimate. However,

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<v Speaker 2>when they tried to have intercourse, Andre couldn't perform, just

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<v Speaker 2>like he hadn't been able to all those years before,

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<v Speaker 2>except this time, Tanya made a fateful, fateful mistake by

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<v Speaker 2>beginning to mock his impotence.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh dear, yeah right.

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<v Speaker 2>He reached into his bag, produced a large knife, and

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<v Speaker 2>he plunged it right into the side of her head.

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<v Speaker 2>She began screaming, but he didn't stop. He then started

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<v Speaker 2>beating her to death with the hammer. Obviously, her daughter

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<v Speaker 2>came running, but Andre had been waiting for her. As

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<v Speaker 2>soon as she approached the scene of the crime, Andrea

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<v Speaker 2>attacked her in the same manner he did it her mother,

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<v Speaker 2>first by stabbing and then by bludgeoning with the hammer.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't until July fifth that the police would find

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<v Speaker 2>Sveda's decomposed body, at least most of it. Her head

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<v Speaker 2>had been completely severed off, and it lay in the

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<v Speaker 2>undergrowth about five yards away. Three weeks later, Tanya's body

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<v Speaker 2>would be found in the dense undergrowth, but only because

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<v Speaker 2>people picnicking in the area complained of an awful smell.

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<v Speaker 2>In June, Andre killed twenty two year old Julena Begalina.

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<v Speaker 2>In July, he killed thirteen year old boy named Dima

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<v Speaker 2>el Arjanov on the tenth, and he killed a nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>year old girl named Anna lemis Jeva on the nineteenth

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<v Speaker 2>and a twenty year old girl named Sveta Sana sometime

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<v Speaker 2>in July. At some point during the summer months, he

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<v Speaker 2>was a good change for him, seeing as the bustling

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<v Speaker 2>city life helped him to blend into the crowd. Plus

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<v Speaker 2>the two hour train ride it took from his home

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<v Speaker 2>and Shakti to his new job in Rostoff gave him

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<v Speaker 2>a good excuse to come home late. Sometimes he wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>come home at all, claiming he had missed the last train.

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<v Speaker 2>He ended up spending some of the nights in the

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<v Speaker 2>of his time. Andre killed a sixteen Andre killed a

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen year old girl named Natasha Golasowa on August second,

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<v Speaker 2>while on a business trip to Uzbekistan. A seventeen year

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<v Speaker 2>old girl named Loda Alexeva on August synth. She suffered

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<v Speaker 2>thirty nine slash wounds before he mutilated and disembowled her.

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<v Speaker 2>Her body was found the next day with her upper

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<v Speaker 2>lip inside of her mouth, an unknown woman between the

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<v Speaker 2>eighth and thelanth, a twelve year old girl named Akmarel

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<v Speaker 2>Shadelseva on August thirteenth, and then the boy named Sasha

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<v Speaker 2>Chappelle on August twenty eighth, and a twenty four year

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<v Speaker 2>old girl named Irena Loshinka on September. That is so busy,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't even believe. And how he would just mutilate

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<v Speaker 3>And how is he not getting caught?

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<v Speaker 2>This is the probably denial, you know, Oh we don't

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, grow up, Yeah, yeah, that's part of it, right, Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>Like some of this stuff, I'm thinking it's in public, It's.

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<v Speaker 2>In public people would have There has to be witnesses,

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<v Speaker 2>there has to be so well. On September thirteenth, two

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<v Speaker 2>undercover detectives roamed around the bus station and dressed as

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<v Speaker 2>normal everyday people and watched everyone talking to everyone. It

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<v Speaker 2>didn't take long for them to notice Andre, who they

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<v Speaker 2>noticed would start combos with random women. They also noted

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<v Speaker 2>that he had some gray hair, which matched that found

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<v Speaker 2>at the crime scene. They began following him into town

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<v Speaker 2>and saw how he approached all types of different women.

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<v Speaker 2>Most importantly, they saw him play with himself in random

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<v Speaker 3>We got our boy, We got our guy right here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah amen.

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<v Speaker 2>They eventually approached him, and they arrested him on September fourteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>During his search, the police found a knife with an

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<v Speaker 2>eight inch blade, bundles of rope, and a jar of vasoline.

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<v Speaker 3>We got our guy, yeah right.

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<v Speaker 2>Once at the police station, Andre's history painted an unfortunate

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<v Speaker 2>picture for him. They learned all they needed to know

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<v Speaker 2>to be suspicious, not to mention, he was also suspected

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<v Speaker 2>of robbing one of his previous employers, which allowed them

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<v Speaker 2>to keep his detained longer. They decided to draw his

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<v Speaker 2>blood in order to try and match it to the

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<v Speaker 2>six seamen samples that they had collected. Unfortunately, Andrea's blood

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<v Speaker 2>type came back as Type A, while the seamen samples

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<v Speaker 2>were Type AB. What the investigators didn't know at the

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<v Speaker 2>time was that Andrea had an extremely rare condition, a

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<v Speaker 2>rare genetic condition. He was a non secretor, which meant

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<v Speaker 2>that while his blood and saliva samples were Type A,

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<v Speaker 2>his semen was type AB. Since they didn't have the

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<v Speaker 2>modern day DNA testing they do today, they could never

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<v Speaker 2>make the connection, and so that made Andre no longer

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<v Speaker 2>a main priority, and the only real evidence that they

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<v Speaker 2>had left were the contents of his briefcase and the

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<v Speaker 2>police report of his activities at the train station. Incredibly,

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<v Speaker 2>the knife and other items were lost when a local

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<v Speaker 2>police lieutenant mishandled them by mistake. Having insufficient evidence to

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<v Speaker 2>charge him for the murders, he was later charged with

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<v Speaker 2>the stealing offenses and sentenced to one year in prison

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<v Speaker 2>and kicked out of the Communist Party after only serving

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<v Speaker 2>three months of his original sentence. Drey was released on

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<v Speaker 2>December twelfth, nineteen eighty four, and he started a new

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<v Speaker 2>job in a locomotive factory in nearby Novachureseik, just as

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<v Speaker 2>he has, just as he was used to. This position

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<v Speaker 2>also required him to travel. Issa Kostoyev, director of Moscow's

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<v Speaker 2>Department for Violent Crime aka the Killer Department. He took

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<v Speaker 2>over the case which was reorganized into three separate teams

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<v Speaker 2>of investigators, one focused on Shakti, the second on Rostoff,

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<v Speaker 2>and the third Novo Shackton. Their plan was to investigate

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<v Speaker 2>each murder while focusing on the surrounding areas of each one.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Andre laid low for a little while before he

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<v Speaker 2>struck again summer of nineteen eighty five. On August first,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty five, Andre killed an eighteen year old girl

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<v Speaker 2>named Natasha push Lestova during a business trip to Moscow.

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<v Speaker 2>He had lured her off the train with the promise

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<v Speaker 2>of something to smoke, which she had approached him for,

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<v Speaker 2>and tried to have sex. When he couldn't perform, he

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<v Speaker 2>stabbed her thirty eight times before finally strangling her. When

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<v Speaker 2>he was done, he covered her with the green raincoat

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<v Speaker 2>she had been wearing and left her in the woods,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was found the next day by a man

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<v Speaker 2>picking mushrooms. On October twenty seventh, Andre killed an eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>year old named Irena gol Yayeva. She was a vagrant

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<v Speaker 2>with no place to go. They had met at the

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<v Speaker 2>bus station and he offered her to stay at his cottage.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, that cottage didn't exist, and she became his

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<v Speaker 2>next victim, he left her naked body about five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>yards from the bus stop. Now, come December, the police

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<v Speaker 2>organized for all of the trains in the three districts

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<v Speaker 2>to be patrolled by officers and playing clothes. They had

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<v Speaker 2>instructions to stop and check the documents of anyone who

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<v Speaker 2>looked suspicious to them. Little did they know that Andre

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<v Speaker 2>used his credentials as a freelance employer of the Department

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<v Speaker 2>of Internal Affairs and had been helping the militia as

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<v Speaker 2>they patrolled the trains. He now knew to kill in

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<v Speaker 2>different areas, but also to take a little break, which

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<v Speaker 2>he did and he didn't kill for all of nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty six.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that must have been really hard for him.

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<v Speaker 2>I would think so that struggle, because if you're like

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<v Speaker 2>mass killing that you are blood loss.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't get enough. I'm sure. Yeah, I'm sure it's adrenaline.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like probably an adrenaline junkie, you know, he's probably

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<v Speaker 4>the rush of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm sure it was really hard.

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<v Speaker 4>It's probably similar to like being addicted to drugs for him.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I didn't think. That's what I compare it

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<v Speaker 2>to too. Just from this search alone, the police turned

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<v Speaker 2>out five and forty five men with previous confistions, ten

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<v Speaker 2>thousand potentially dangerous mentally ill people, one hundred and nineteen homosexuals,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and sixty three drivers. They managed to solve

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<v Speaker 2>one thousand and sixty two crimes, including ninety five murders

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<v Speaker 2>and forty five rates one hundred and forty cases of

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<v Speaker 2>serious bodily harm. So, back in this time, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know really if it's true today, but back

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<v Speaker 2>in the Ace, men would be punished for homosexual acts.

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<v Speaker 2>So three more murders were recorded in nineteen eighty seven

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<v Speaker 2>and May sixteenth. During a trip to the town of

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<v Speaker 2>Revda in the euro Mountains, he killed a thirteen year

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<v Speaker 2>old boy named Olag Macarinkoff. During another trip to Saprousi

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<v Speaker 2>in the Ukraine, Andre killed a twelve year old boy

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<v Speaker 2>named Ivan Bolitsky on July twenty ninth. The attack was

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<v Speaker 2>so brutal that a part of his knife blade broke

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<v Speaker 2>off and was later found at the scene by police.

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<v Speaker 2>Later in court, the mother would say the following the

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<v Speaker 2>day I buried my son, I gave him my word

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<v Speaker 2>that I would try to live long enough to see

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<v Speaker 2>his killer with my own eyes. I wanted to see

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<v Speaker 2>the man who could rip open my son's stomach and

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<v Speaker 2>then stuff mud in his mouth so that he would

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<v Speaker 2>not cry out. I want to know what he looked like,

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<v Speaker 2>to know which mother could bear such an animal. And

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<v Speaker 2>now I see him. Wow, that's pretty powerful.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Then during a trip to Leningrad on September fifteenth, Andre

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<v Speaker 2>The investigators were stumped. They could see why prostitutes and

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<v Speaker 2>the like would go off with the killer, but they

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't understand the young children. Why did they follow him

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<v Speaker 2>and what did he say? Then again, he presented himself

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<v Speaker 2>as an educated all dress man who would sympathize with

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<v Speaker 2>their situation, whatever it may be. On April sixth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty eight, the police found the body of an unidentified

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<v Speaker 2>twelve year old girl who had been killed two to

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<v Speaker 2>five days earlier. Then, on May fourteenth, Andre killed a

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<v Speaker 2>nine year old boy named Loja Veronko. Then exactly two

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<v Speaker 2>months later, he killed a fifteen year old boy named

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<v Speaker 2>Zanja Moratov. This case was a puzzle to police. They

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't understand why this boy would go off with the

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<v Speaker 2>Later on, after the case was over, a Rostov psychiatrist

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<v Speaker 2>cruised the streets as a middle aged, solidly built man

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<v Speaker 2>promise of food or drink. He was shocked and horrified

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<v Speaker 2>at the number of children that accepted his offer and

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<v Speaker 2>willingly climbed into the passenger seat to head to an

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<v Speaker 2>More than seven months later, Andre would kill again. He

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<v Speaker 2>old Tatiana Rasova with her dirty clothes, her unkempt hair,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course, the smell of alcohol ho her. He

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<v Speaker 2>he had his daughter's keys to her empty apartment. She

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<v Speaker 2>had recently gotten a divorce, and Andrea was in charge

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<v Speaker 2>of trying to swap the apartment with two smaller ones

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<v Speaker 2>so his daughter and son in law could live separate lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Once at the apartment, Andrea offered her some badka before

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<v Speaker 2>seducing her. He couldn't perform once again, which made the

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<v Speaker 2>stabbed her in the mouth. He then violated her body.

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<v Speaker 2>He knew he had to dispose of the body, but

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<v Speaker 2>it would be tricky trying to get her out of

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<v Speaker 2>the flat, so he decided to take a knife from

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<v Speaker 2>the kitchen and start sawing off her head and limbs.

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<v Speaker 2>He then wrapped her in rags and pieces of clothing

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<v Speaker 2>and put her in the cellar while he finished cleaning

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<v Speaker 2>up the blood. Then he went and found a sled outside,

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<v Speaker 2>which he tied the girl's remains to. He began and

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<v Speaker 2>moving her away from the house, but once he neared

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<v Speaker 2>the railway crossing, he got the sled stuck. A passerby

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<v Speaker 2>started coming towards him, which made him panic. However, the

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<v Speaker 2>sled over the track. Once the man disappeared from out

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<v Speaker 2>of sight, Andre began to stuff the body parts into

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<v Speaker 2>some large pipes that ran near the railway, and her

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<v Speaker 2>body was found nine days later. By this time everything

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<v Speaker 2>pointed to the railway, whether it was that victims were

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<v Speaker 2>found close or that they were last seen alive at

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<v Speaker 2>the railway. They began manning the railways with plane clothes

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<v Speaker 2>investigators times and upwards of five to six hundred officers patrolling.

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<v Speaker 2>Some were acting like passengers, while others were in the

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<v Speaker 2>surrounding woods pretending to pick mushrooms, which was a favorite

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<v Speaker 2>Russian pastime. Some of the women were posing a prostitutes,

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<v Speaker 2>but he never took the bait. When he was interviewed

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<v Speaker 2>after his capture, Dre may clear that he never set

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<v Speaker 2>out in search of typically a man or a woman.

421
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<v Speaker 2>If the victim turned out to be an adult woman,

422
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<v Speaker 2>all was well, but it was just as good if

423
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<v Speaker 2>it was a prepubescent girl or a fourteen year old boy.

424
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<v Speaker 2>He was the ultimate opportunist. The main thing for him

425
00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:18.599
<v Speaker 2>was to kill. On May eleventh, nineteen eighty nine, Andre

426
00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:21.240
<v Speaker 2>was shopping on the edge of town when he first

427
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<v Speaker 2>saw an eight year old boy named Sasha jackanof He

428
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<v Speaker 2>was in his school uniform and he was walking alongside

429
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<v Speaker 2>the main road. Normally, he would lure the boy somewhere,

430
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:35.480
<v Speaker 2>but his desire was so strong that he merely waited

431
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<v Speaker 2>for the boy to be covered by a row of bushes,

432
00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:41.640
<v Speaker 2>and once he was, Andre jumped up from behind him

433
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<v Speaker 2>and began stabbing him. The bustle of the city covered

434
00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:48.319
<v Speaker 2>the boy's screams. He left the boy just twenty yards

435
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<v Speaker 2>from the road, but even then he wasn't found till

436
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<v Speaker 2>fifty five.

437
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<v Speaker 4>Wow, did you say his name was Sasha jackanof mm hmm, that's.

438
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<v Speaker 2>A lot of I think they're yakinov. I think the

439
00:25:59.000 --> 00:26:01.920
<v Speaker 2>jay the DJ might be a yah. I'm not sure

440
00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:02.519
<v Speaker 2>or jah.

441
00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:07.079
<v Speaker 3>I know, I'm like, what what did I just hear? Yeah?

442
00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:10.720
<v Speaker 2>So then he killed a ten year old boy named

443
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<v Speaker 2>Losia Mojess on June twentietheen eighty nine. And I'm gonna

444
00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:18.839
<v Speaker 2>tell you right now, these Russian and Ukrainian names are

445
00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:23.160
<v Speaker 2>very hard to sound out right, but like a little

446
00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:26.119
<v Speaker 2>compassion of my pronunciation.

447
00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:29.720
<v Speaker 3>I know. I'm like, ooh, some of these are just oh,

448
00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:32.519
<v Speaker 3>I gotta edit that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>On August nineteenth, nineteen eighty nine, Andrea was waiting at

450
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<v Speaker 2>a bus stop on his way to celebrate his father's

451
00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:44.440
<v Speaker 2>birthday party when he saw nineteen year old Yelena Barga.

452
00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:47.200
<v Speaker 2>He offered to walk her home, and on the way

453
00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:50.160
<v Speaker 2>he lured her into the woods, where he began stabbing her.

454
00:26:50.759 --> 00:26:54.119
<v Speaker 2>After cutting out her uterus and slicing up part of

455
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<v Speaker 2>her face. He wrapped what was left of her in

456
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<v Speaker 2>clothing and left for the party. On August twenty eighth,

457
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:02.640
<v Speaker 2>teen eighty nine, Andre met a ten year old boy

458
00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:08.599
<v Speaker 2>named Aliosa Chibata who was fascinated by horror films. Of course,

459
00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:11.799
<v Speaker 2>Andrea used that knowledge to his advantage. Andre told the

460
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:14.880
<v Speaker 2>boy he could show him some great horror films and

461
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:18.119
<v Speaker 2>asked him to come with him to see what's crazy

462
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:21.880
<v Speaker 2>about this murder is Andrea was originally planning to commit

463
00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:25.319
<v Speaker 2>suicide due to his bouts of depression, so he had

464
00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:29.839
<v Speaker 2>actually dug a grave for himself in Rostoff Cemetery earlier

465
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:32.759
<v Speaker 2>that week, and instead he ended up leading this boy

466
00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:35.160
<v Speaker 2>to it, and after hitting the boy in the head,

467
00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:38.160
<v Speaker 2>he jumped on the boy and began attacking him. He

468
00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:41.240
<v Speaker 2>bit off his tongue and caught off his sexual organs,

469
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:43.359
<v Speaker 2>and then he threw the boy in the pit and

470
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:46.440
<v Speaker 2>covered it with dirt. The body wasn't found until well

471
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:48.799
<v Speaker 2>after Andrea was eventually arrested.

472
00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:49.839
<v Speaker 3>As time went.

473
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:53.759
<v Speaker 2>On, police recovered more and more bodies with missing body parts.

474
00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:57.319
<v Speaker 2>Most females were missing their uterus and nipples, while the

475
00:27:57.319 --> 00:28:01.519
<v Speaker 2>males were missing their genitals and sometimes had their tongue

476
00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:04.680
<v Speaker 2>sliced or bitten off completely. Andre and his killings were

477
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:08.599
<v Speaker 2>evolving and truly becoming so much worse with the passing days.

478
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:12.559
<v Speaker 2>Police learned that their killer enjoyed intensifying the suffering of

479
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:16.920
<v Speaker 2>victims by performing little operations on them while they were

480
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:20.880
<v Speaker 2>still alive. Photographs in the files of the investigators showed

481
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:24.440
<v Speaker 2>the state of the corpse after each were found. Even

482
00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:29.359
<v Speaker 2>those that were fresh were virtually unrecognizable as a result

483
00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:33.240
<v Speaker 2>not just of stabbing and slashing, but of deep wounds

484
00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:36.720
<v Speaker 2>in the belly through which he extracted their internal organs.

485
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:40.160
<v Speaker 2>By now, his knowledge of human anatomy was such that

486
00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:44.799
<v Speaker 2>he knew what they were, which he wanted, and exactly

487
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:48.920
<v Speaker 2>where to cut in order to get at them most easily.

488
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:53.119
<v Speaker 2>The agony of his victims must have been incredible. Many

489
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:56.880
<v Speaker 2>must have died literally of shock as the crazed surgeon

490
00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:01.119
<v Speaker 2>made his incisions, said the investigator. Another part of his

491
00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:05.480
<v Speaker 2>routine became him cutting off and chewing on the genitals.

492
00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:09.039
<v Speaker 2>He didn't swallow, but it doesn't matter. At this point.

493
00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:12.480
<v Speaker 2>He was obsessed with uteruses and got really good at

494
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:15.799
<v Speaker 2>cutting them out. Quote. I did not want to bite them,

495
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:19.440
<v Speaker 2>so much as chew them. Andre later said they were

496
00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:23.079
<v Speaker 2>so beautiful and elastic. This is like an an like.

497
00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:26.880
<v Speaker 2>You can't hardly hear the fucking words out of his mouth.

498
00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:28.640
<v Speaker 3>I know, what the hell.

499
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:32.839
<v Speaker 4>I am so disturbed by the story. I'm speechless.

500
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.400
<v Speaker 2>As it was just at the end of the twentieth century,

501
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:40.160
<v Speaker 2>the nineteen hundreds. I mean, this is just right in

502
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:41.200
<v Speaker 2>our backyards.

503
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:42.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly so.

504
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:48.799
<v Speaker 2>In nineteen ninety marked the last year finally of Andrea's freedom,

505
00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:53.160
<v Speaker 2>and he definitely lived it up by killing eight more people.

506
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:56.480
<v Speaker 2>On January fourteenth, he killed eleven year old boy named

507
00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Andre Krypchenko, a ten year old boy name Mizalav mark

508
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:07.839
<v Speaker 2>Mark Karoff, Markaroff on March seventh, a thirty one year

509
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:15.759
<v Speaker 2>old woman name named Lobov Zoyeva in April, a thirteen

510
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:19.960
<v Speaker 2>year old boy named Vita Petrov on July twenty eighth,

511
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:25.440
<v Speaker 2>and eleven year old boy named Ivan Foeman on August fourteenth,

512
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:30.000
<v Speaker 2>a sixteen year old boy named Vedam Gromov on October seventeenth,

513
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:35.039
<v Speaker 2>a sixteen year old boy named Vita Schachenko on October thirtieth.

514
00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Andrea would later describe the murder of Veden Gromov to

515
00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:43.319
<v Speaker 2>be among his most brutal killings. Conradi writes, after they

516
00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:46.720
<v Speaker 2>had gone on for some three hundred yards together, he

517
00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:50.480
<v Speaker 2>suddenly began to shake and to feel sexually aroused. Taking

518
00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:53.440
<v Speaker 2>the boy completely by surprise, he jumped on him from

519
00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:56.920
<v Speaker 2>behind and forced him to the ground, ripping off his trousers.

520
00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:00.400
<v Speaker 2>As his victim lay pinned on his face, Andre off

521
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:03.920
<v Speaker 2>his own trousers and underpants, and he rubbed his penis

522
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:08.359
<v Speaker 2>against Grumov's buttox until he ejaculated. At that moment with

523
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:11.920
<v Speaker 2>the last ounce of his energy, the boy tried to escape,

524
00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:15.519
<v Speaker 2>Andrea was too fast and too strong. Taking a length

525
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:18.480
<v Speaker 2>of rope from his bag, he tied the boy's hands and,

526
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.039
<v Speaker 2>turning him onto his back, began to strip off the

527
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:25.759
<v Speaker 2>rest of his clothes. Then, as the animal in him

528
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:28.519
<v Speaker 2>took over, he bit off the tip of the boy's

529
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:31.839
<v Speaker 2>tongue and began to strike at him wildly in the

530
00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:36.480
<v Speaker 2>head and stomach within his knife. Gromov died within seconds,

531
00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:39.599
<v Speaker 2>and in a gruesome finale, Andrea took the blade and

532
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:43.640
<v Speaker 2>cut off his genitals, tossing them away into the undergrowth.

533
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:48.000
<v Speaker 2>As the euphoria faded, he untied the hands, removed the

534
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:51.720
<v Speaker 2>few scraps of clothing still left on him, and dragged

535
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:54.799
<v Speaker 2>the naked body off to the bushes, where he covered

536
00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:57.240
<v Speaker 2>it with leaves. He used the clothes to clean the

537
00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:01.359
<v Speaker 2>blood off his hands, then they too were tossed into

538
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:04.599
<v Speaker 2>the bushes. After straightening his own clothes, he left as

539
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:07.559
<v Speaker 2>calmly as he had arrived, going back to the station

540
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:11.559
<v Speaker 2>and taking the train home to Novo. The police took

541
00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:15.200
<v Speaker 2>their policing to the next level and used all of

542
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:18.680
<v Speaker 2>the officers They had to man every bus stop and

543
00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:23.359
<v Speaker 2>train station across all the usual killing areas. I'm gonna say,

544
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:28.039
<v Speaker 2>maybe post some officers in the fucking underbrush. Yeah that

545
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:30.000
<v Speaker 2>he keeps throwing things in.

546
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:32.960
<v Speaker 3>I know, right, Yeah, that might be a good spot,

547
00:32:33.240 --> 00:32:34.400
<v Speaker 3>the undergrowth. Yes.

548
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:37.440
<v Speaker 2>They were forced to suspect anyone and anything and ask

549
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:41.319
<v Speaker 2>for information immediately upon first inner action, So it made

550
00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:45.200
<v Speaker 2>things even worse when Andre managed to kill yet again. Lastly,

551
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:48.480
<v Speaker 2>on November sixth, Andre killed a twenty two year old

552
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:53.359
<v Speaker 2>woman named Svetlana Karstik. She went with him to the

553
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:58.519
<v Speaker 2>woods near less Cause station and was beaten, stabbed, mutilated,

554
00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:01.480
<v Speaker 2>and missing her genitals. Andre removed the tip of her

555
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:04.319
<v Speaker 2>tongue and both nipples and ate them at the scene

556
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:07.559
<v Speaker 2>before he covered her naked body with leaves and branches.

557
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:11.279
<v Speaker 2>And as he returned to the Duless Cause station, an

558
00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:15.160
<v Speaker 2>officer spotted Andre coming out of the woods. He was

559
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:17.920
<v Speaker 2>a middle aged man, probably in his peace, wearing a

560
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:21.400
<v Speaker 2>gray suit, tie, glasses, and carrying a bag with a

561
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:24.440
<v Speaker 2>shoulder strap. At the opposite end of the platform there

562
00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:27.200
<v Speaker 2>was a water hydrant which the man stopped to use

563
00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:30.920
<v Speaker 2>to clean himself up. Now this wasn't all too unusual, because,

564
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:33.680
<v Speaker 2>like I said before, mushroom picking in these parts as

565
00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:36.480
<v Speaker 2>a big you know, doing it, and they would often

566
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:39.200
<v Speaker 2>come out looking dirty and stopping at the hydrant to

567
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:44.200
<v Speaker 2>clean up. However, as the officer Rbakov got closer to

568
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:47.039
<v Speaker 2>the man in question, he noticed a bandage on the

569
00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:50.039
<v Speaker 2>man's fingers along with a red stain on his cheek.

570
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Rybakov approached the man and asked for his papers, and

571
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:56.279
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't you know it, it was Andre. Of course, this

572
00:33:56.400 --> 00:33:59.240
<v Speaker 2>officer didn't know anything about Andre or his past run

573
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:02.079
<v Speaker 2>ins with the law in relation to this case. He

574
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:05.039
<v Speaker 2>took down the name and later, after leaving his post

575
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:08.000
<v Speaker 2>at the station, he wrote a report about this encounter

576
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:11.000
<v Speaker 2>with Andrea. Now, who knows what happened to that report.

577
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:17.679
<v Speaker 2>On November thirteenth, forty police officers and twenty dogs combed

578
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:21.639
<v Speaker 2>the nearby area only to find that Sputa's body was there.

579
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:25.440
<v Speaker 2>Officers were blown away as that meant that Andrea had

580
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:28.360
<v Speaker 2>to have slipped past their men at the station. This

581
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:30.840
<v Speaker 2>made them go back and look at the reports, and

582
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:33.320
<v Speaker 2>that's when they found the write up about the last

583
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Andrea encounter and they began to follow him. So on

584
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:41.079
<v Speaker 2>November twentieth, Andre left work to have his finger checked

585
00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:44.599
<v Speaker 2>out by a doctor, which he had gotten when one

586
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:48.599
<v Speaker 2>of his victim's bit his finger. After receiving treatment at

587
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:51.960
<v Speaker 2>a nearby clinic, he left with a broken finger. Not

588
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:54.719
<v Speaker 2>long after arriving home, he took off again to have

589
00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:57.360
<v Speaker 2>a beer, but on his way he couldn't help but

590
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.159
<v Speaker 2>to talk to a young boy he saw. However, the

591
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:02.519
<v Speaker 2>young boy was scared off when a woman approached the

592
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:05.360
<v Speaker 2>two of them. He continued to walk down the road

593
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:08.920
<v Speaker 2>until he bumped into another young boy, whom he started

594
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:12.639
<v Speaker 2>a conversation with. This young boy was eventually called away

595
00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:16.000
<v Speaker 2>by his mother, and this didn't seem to sway Andre

596
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:19.840
<v Speaker 2>because he just kept on his way scoping out potential victims.

597
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:22.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, because he will kill anybody, so it doesn't matter.

598
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:25.679
<v Speaker 2>After he's already pulled in for questioning, and that didn't stop,

599
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:28.639
<v Speaker 2>only stopped him for a year. He won't be stopped. Yes,

600
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:32.239
<v Speaker 2>you're right. That's when three mother, that's when three men

601
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:35.639
<v Speaker 2>in leather jackets walked up to him and identified themselves

602
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:39.119
<v Speaker 2>as police. He was then handcuffed and arrested, and during

603
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:42.400
<v Speaker 2>the search of his person, police found that the briefcase

604
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:45.079
<v Speaker 2>Andre had been carrying with him had a knife, a

605
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:48.320
<v Speaker 2>length of rope, and a jar of basolene inside. After

606
00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:52.159
<v Speaker 2>a thorough search of his apartment, police found twenty three knives,

607
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:55.440
<v Speaker 2>a hammer, and a pair of shoes which were later

608
00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:58.960
<v Speaker 2>found to match the footprint next to one found by

609
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:02.840
<v Speaker 2>a previous victim. It took five days of interrogating Andre

610
00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:06.360
<v Speaker 2>before the police got anything from him. He wasn't saying

611
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:13.000
<v Speaker 2>much of anything at all until psychiatrists Alexanderkanowski sat down

612
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:15.480
<v Speaker 2>with him and made Andre think he was trying to

613
00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:19.719
<v Speaker 2>understand the mind of serial killer. After all, this psychiatrist

614
00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:23.960
<v Speaker 2>had worked tirelessly with police and created an entire profile

615
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:27.559
<v Speaker 2>on the kind of killer Andre was. Of course, Andre

616
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:31.519
<v Speaker 2>was intrigued by this attention, but once the man began reading,

617
00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Andre had never felt so seen or heard in his life.

618
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:39.039
<v Speaker 2>This man he had just met began reading what Andre

619
00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:42.840
<v Speaker 2>couldn't believe described him to the tee. Andre ended up

620
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:46.679
<v Speaker 2>breaking down and telling the psychiatrist everything he was guilty

621
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:51.559
<v Speaker 2>of the police had only originally suspected him of thirty

622
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:54.639
<v Speaker 2>six murders, so they were quite surprised to learn that

623
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:59.559
<v Speaker 2>he was actually responsible for fifty six murders. Afterwards, the

624
00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:03.639
<v Speaker 2>psychio i has trisdeemed Andre to fit to stand trial.

625
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:07.599
<v Speaker 2>April fourteenth, nineteen ninety two, marked the very first day

626
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:11.079
<v Speaker 2>of Andre's trial. He was held in an iron cage

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<v Speaker 2>so as to keep him away from the jury. While

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<v Speaker 2>in there, he would randomly burst into song, ramblot and gibberish,

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<v Speaker 2>and even pull down his pants to expose himself. I

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<v Speaker 2>can only imagine this show.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you imagine?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, we were watching Court TV and it's some you know,

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<v Speaker 4>craziest trial and they bring this guy in in a

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<v Speaker 4>fucking cage and then he just starts singing and he

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<v Speaker 4>pulls his pants down and come on, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, can you imagine if you and I

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<v Speaker 2>were sitting in jury's I would look at you like,

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<v Speaker 2>live this motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, are you seeing this?

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<v Speaker 2>Quite a show?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? What the fuck?

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<v Speaker 2>But through all that, he seemed to show no remorse

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<v Speaker 2>for his actions whatsoever, and if anything, he seemed to

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<v Speaker 2>be proud of what he had done while on the saint.

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<v Speaker 2>While on the stand, Drey himself said the following, I

646
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<v Speaker 2>was like a craze wolf. I just turned into a beast,

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<v Speaker 2>into a wild animal, unquote. On October fifteenth, nineteen ninety two,

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<v Speaker 2>Andrea was found guilty of fifty two counts of murder,

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<v Speaker 2>one charge having been dropped due to insufficient evidence. The

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<v Speaker 2>fifty three deaths ended up being eighteen women, fourteen girls,

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty one boys. On February fourteenth, nineteen ninety four,

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<v Speaker 2>Drey Romanovitch Chikatilo was executed by a single shot to

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<v Speaker 2>the back of the head. The only sentence that he deserves,

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<v Speaker 2>the judge stated, and that is the story of Andre Chikatilo.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn girl, this one was mad.

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<v Speaker 4>I think this is one of the most horrible yes

657
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<v Speaker 4>stories I've ever heard.

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00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Operating while victims are still alive. The mutal of the

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<v Speaker 2>body come on, Yeah, like what the fuck you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>And then just like the whole chewing on body parts, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Like what the fuck is that? Yeah, whitey like tips

662
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<v Speaker 3>of your tongue and nipples and like.

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<v Speaker 2>What I don't get?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I am, I mean we've talked about this million times,

665
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:22.800
<v Speaker 4>like just being fascinated with like how does how does

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<v Speaker 4>somebody become that person?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And I think they were trying to say something about

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<v Speaker 2>the water on the brain, that hydro syphilis condition. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, But.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I'm not,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, obviously a doctor. I'm not a trained professional.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but no, I'm a I'm an excellent judger though

674
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<v Speaker 2>I like to judge.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I like speculate quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Set, Yeah, I just the hell And you don't even

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<v Speaker 4>know where to begin with this awfulness. And then like

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<v Speaker 4>the police are just like fucking it up over and

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<v Speaker 4>over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>They're looking for the easy way out. Let's go to

681
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<v Speaker 2>the mentally handicapped home, yeah, and make every cause then

682
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<v Speaker 2>they don't got to look.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And then yeah, let's brow beat some poor handicaped person

685
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<v Speaker 4>and force them into some confession because they're terrified, and

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<v Speaker 4>then yes, and then all surprise, the killings continue.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I just I don't know. This was messed up.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't think I've ever heard this story.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think. I don't remember this awfulness.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I don't remember this. You think this would

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<v Speaker 3>have made news? Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I was in nineteen eighties. I guess I was just

693
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<v Speaker 4>hit my head in the sand. I was in high

694
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<v Speaker 4>school in Shakau.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going in college. Yeah, I was over in Germany.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea because I'm looking alike. And when

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<v Speaker 2>he was found guilty in nineteen ninety two, I was

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<v Speaker 2>still in the service. So I have no idea what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I'm in college, just living my life. I guess. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>You know it's crazy, though, But thank you very much

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<v Speaker 4>for that story. That horrorific those victims. It's just so sad,

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<v Speaker 4>it is, you know, I just it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Very, very terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>And his pictures of him are unsettling, the ones that

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<v Speaker 2>I have posted. You know this with the story, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>do you see his eyes? Like? Yeah, do you ever

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<v Speaker 2>look at someone and just you're confident you can see

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<v Speaker 2>the crazy and at least one of the eyes. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely he's got that look disturbing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely.

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