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Speaker 1: Who is Mark Weber. He's a self made business executive
Speaker 1: here to help you find your success from the New
Speaker 1: York City projects to the Avenue Montaigne in Paris. His
Speaker 1: global success story in the luxury world of fashion is inspirational.
Speaker 1: He's gone from clerk to CEO twice. Mark his classic
Speaker 1: proof that the American dream is alive. And well, here's
Speaker 1: your host of Always in Fashion, Mark Weber.
Speaker 2: Mark Weber.
Speaker 3: I often wonder whether I should just be quiet. There's
Speaker 3: no question that in this life. If I just didn't answer,
Speaker 3: just didn't offer, didn't suggest, refrain from options, kept my
Speaker 3: advice to myself, kept my own counsel, I didn't get involved.
Speaker 3: I kept my mouth shut. I just might be happier.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I've been working on my happiness, which is more important
Speaker 3: to me than being heard. And you think, after all
Speaker 3: this time, I've had learned that no response is a response.
Speaker 3: You don't have to say anything if you don't want to.
Speaker 3: Now I have to admit I could be my own
Speaker 3: worst enemy forgetting humans and their nature.
Speaker 2: Humans. Many don't wish you well.
Speaker 3: Particularly if you talk about yourself. My wife always warned me.
Speaker 3: She said, those above you in business mark will love
Speaker 3: you until you catch up to them. And then I
Speaker 3: learned on my own that those below you that work
Speaker 3: for you will love you for the thousand things you
Speaker 3: do for them until you say no once and then
Speaker 3: all bets are off. Yet here I am. I'm happy,
Speaker 3: and when I'm happy, it's makes me funny. And when
Speaker 3: I'm funny, I talk too much and invariably get into trouble.
Speaker 3: But I want to talk. I have a show tonight.
Speaker 3: I have a Radis show talk. So I have things
Speaker 3: I want to do. I have stories I want to tell.
Speaker 3: Now part of what I'm going to do tonight is
Speaker 3: paint the bullseye on my back. I deserve it. I
Speaker 3: have some things I have to share. I want to
Speaker 3: teach some important lessons. But I will tell you from
Speaker 3: now on in this world, if someone asked me a
Speaker 3: question and I don't answer, that means that's my answer.
Speaker 3: And perhaps all of you learned that lesson you too,
Speaker 3: will realize no response is a response. With that as
Speaker 3: a back trip, I want to introduce my co host,
Speaker 3: my lawyer, and my son, Jesse Webber. Jesse, you haven't
Speaker 3: been on the show in a while, and now you're back.
Speaker 4: I know, I know, I know. It's just been incredibly
Speaker 4: busy in the legal world. Have you seen how many
Speaker 4: cases are happening right now, how much Trump legal stuff's
Speaker 4: been going on. I want to be on the show,
Speaker 4: but I'll tell you I listened to the show last week.
Speaker 2: It was great.
Speaker 4: I thought it was a great show. I did have
Speaker 4: one question for you. I did have one question for
Speaker 4: you about the show last week. You gave this great
Speaker 4: story about Macy's West Macy's East, and I'm not going
Speaker 4: to summarize the whole thing, but you basically were reassured
Speaker 4: the guy that ran Macy's East that they were going
Speaker 4: to continue to carry the brand. But there was this whole,
Speaker 4: big concern about Macy's West not no longer carrying it.
Speaker 4: The one thing I never understood was what happened after
Speaker 4: Macy's West said they weren't going to carry You had
Speaker 4: to report that back to the board, right. You tried
Speaker 4: every which way to make sure the brand was held
Speaker 4: by Macy's West. Did the board say, hey, Mark, did
Speaker 4: you try every which way? I mean, were they What
Speaker 4: did they say to you when you came back and said, listen,
Speaker 4: I tried every which way for Macy's West Coast to
Speaker 4: keep our brand and they said no. What was the
Speaker 4: reaction from the company about that? That was the one
Speaker 4: part I was missing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, Macy's East decided to stay loyal to the brand.
Speaker 3: Macy's West ran away. I told the board that this
Speaker 3: is happening. I told the board, it's not going to work,
Speaker 3: the trading off our great brand for some private lebel
Speaker 3: brand and over time it'll come back and let's just
Speaker 3: stay the course. And that, in turn, is what happened.
Speaker 3: So it was really a non entity of the board.
Speaker 3: But thank you for bringing that up. But what I
Speaker 3: want to talk about a little differently tonight is the
Speaker 3: idea of being quiet. You know, when you talk, when
Speaker 3: you don't talk? What is rule number one?
Speaker 2: Keep the mouth closed exactly.
Speaker 3: Now that began with you jumping in the swimming pool
Speaker 3: with you little boy, keep the mouth closed, and then
Speaker 3: in life it's the same thing. Don Corleone said, never
Speaker 3: let anyone outside the family know what you're thinking.
Speaker 2: Same thing.
Speaker 3: You gotta keep the mouth beclouse. I'm always getting in trouble.
Speaker 3: But the other day I had a reoccurring thing. I'm
Speaker 3: going to talk about. Somebody called me eccentric. I'm not eccentric.
Speaker 2: You are.
Speaker 4: But that's not a bad thing. It's not a bad thing.
Speaker 4: You should wear it as a badge of honor. It's
Speaker 4: funny I was talking about somebody.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, I have tape something
Speaker 2: I want to play for you.
Speaker 5: What eccentric is Eccentric as an adjective definition one of
Speaker 5: a person or their behavior unconventional and slightly strange, as
Speaker 5: in my favorite aunt is very eccentric In a technical sense,
Speaker 5: definition two of a thing not play centrally, or not
Speaker 5: having its axis or other part play centrally, as in
Speaker 5: a servo driving in eccentric cam. As a noun, definition
Speaker 5: one a person of unconventional and slightly strange views or behavior,
Speaker 5: as in he enjoys a colorful reputation as an engaging eccentric.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a great thing. Listen to what
Speaker 2: it just said. I'm strange on this.
Speaker 4: That's bad. That's bad. All the great people in this world,
Speaker 4: so entrepreneurs, the best in industries. They're all unique, they're
Speaker 4: all one of a kind. They've all been called different
Speaker 4: or weird or eccentric. That's not a bad thing. I
Speaker 4: spoke to somebody today who I work with, and I
Speaker 4: told him, I said to them, right through his face,
Speaker 4: I was like, I will never meet anyone like you
Speaker 4: ever again in my life. I said. There's some people
Speaker 4: that you meet who are like at of Central Casting.
Speaker 4: You know exactly what they're about. They're very characteristic of everybody.
Speaker 4: It's great to be different. That's how you stand out.
Speaker 4: That's how you stand out. I think you're the same way.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to cover thank you for that. I
Speaker 3: figured you jump on my head for being weird.
Speaker 4: No, I mean you're weird. I mean you're weird and
Speaker 4: good ways and bad ways. There are some things you're
Speaker 4: weird about a little eccentric about that. I'm like, eh,
Speaker 4: I don't know. But other than that, it's great.
Speaker 3: What's the most important case you're covering out? Talking weird?
Speaker 4: Did he I want to talk weird? Diddy? Diddy's trials
Speaker 4: about to start, so.
Speaker 2: It's really I didn't realize.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this past week perspective, jurors were brought into the courtroom,
Speaker 4: not for individual questioning. They filled out questionnaires, forms about
Speaker 4: what's your age, where do you live, have you heard
Speaker 4: anything about the case, And then they're going to be
Speaker 4: whittled down and we're going to have real jury selection
Speaker 4: beginning next week. I think it's gonna be very tough
Speaker 4: to find the jury in this case. But remember, he's
Speaker 4: going to trial federal court facing five sex crimes charges,
Speaker 4: faces potentially the rest of his life in prison. All
Speaker 4: eyes are going to be on this trial. And you
Speaker 4: want to talk weird. He's accused of doing a lot
Speaker 4: of weird things.
Speaker 2: Is he going down?
Speaker 4: Hard to say? I'll say this much. What he's charged
Speaker 4: with are very specific crimes. So if we're talking sex trafficking,
Speaker 4: there are very specific elements that the prosecution has to prove,
Speaker 4: And I gotta say, I'll see what the evidence is,
Speaker 4: but I think the defense can make an argument that
Speaker 4: this is not a classic example of that. That he
Speaker 4: might have had relationships with girlfriends and was flying them
Speaker 4: out and paying them and buying gifts for them. Is
Speaker 4: that really what sex trafficking is? Did he run a
Speaker 4: criminal enterprise? For a racketeering charge. I know why they
Speaker 4: charged them the way they did, but I don't know
Speaker 4: if a jury's going to accept it. This is not
Speaker 4: a case of did Sean Combs abuse anyone or engage
Speaker 4: in sexual assault? That's not what this is. It's very,
Speaker 4: very different. It's beyond that. And I think the prosecution,
Speaker 4: though this is the Southern District of New York federal prosecutors,
Speaker 4: they wouldn't move forward with the case unless they felt
Speaker 4: they had the goods. There's talk about whether or not
Speaker 4: they offered a plea deal and Shawn Combs rejected it.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be very curious to see how everything's argued
Speaker 4: and who ends up testifying. But it's gonna be quite
Speaker 4: the case. And by the way, it's by the way,
Speaker 4: it's very rare for a federal case like this to
Speaker 4: go to trial and very rare for it to go
Speaker 4: to trial within a year of when someone's arrested. But
Speaker 4: Shawn Colmbs wants to go full speed ahead. He wants
Speaker 4: us to go to trial. It seems like he believes
Speaker 4: he can be acquitted in this case. Very interesting.
Speaker 3: When you said the jury, what are the criteria for jury?
Speaker 3: How are they going to find a jury that doesn't
Speaker 3: know anything about this.
Speaker 4: They're not going to try to find a jury that
Speaker 4: doesn't know anything about this. It's going to be, first
Speaker 4: of all, impossible to find a jury that doesn't know
Speaker 4: who Sean Combs is. Okay, that's going to be number one.
Speaker 4: But to find a jury that hasn't heard something about
Speaker 4: the charges or the criminal case, or seen that really
Speaker 4: really bad video of him allegedly beating up an ex girlfriend. No,
Speaker 4: The question is can the jurors who are seated, can
Speaker 4: they put aside whatever they've seen about the case. Can
Speaker 4: they put aside whatever opinions they have and say I
Speaker 4: promise to make a decision purely based on the facts
Speaker 4: and the evidence presented in this courtroom. Easier said than done.
Speaker 4: You have to take their word for it. Sometimes their
Speaker 4: backgrounds are going to be looked into. Did they post
Speaker 4: anything on social media about it in the past year?
Speaker 4: But that's what you're looking for, and you better have alternates.
Speaker 4: You better have a lot of alternates, because during the
Speaker 4: course of what could be an eight week trial, things happened,
Speaker 4: jurors could say things, they might be approached. You want
Speaker 4: to make sure you have enough because if you run
Speaker 4: out of jurors, then you have a mistrial. So you
Speaker 4: want to make sure you have enough jurors and jurors
Speaker 4: who can look at this case impartially.
Speaker 3: Well, here's the deal. I'm glad we have a little
Speaker 3: current events. I'm glad we're going to talk about this.
Speaker 3: That might be very helpful for everybody to watch. But
Speaker 3: here's the case I'm going to build right now, you're ready.
Speaker 3: I've been accused of being eccentric, and point out and
Speaker 3: prove that I'm not with that of mine. I hate
Speaker 3: talking about myself. In all my formal lives. My former reiterations,
Speaker 3: I talked about brands. I talked about the companies I
Speaker 3: work for, the brands I represent. Now the brands that
Speaker 3: I'm representing is always in fashion, and I'm a point
Speaker 3: and I set the stage, and I have to talk
Speaker 3: about me. It isn't easy being me, but I like it.
Speaker 3: I have to admit, I'm always concerned that when I
Speaker 3: talk about my own personal successes, it could be considered
Speaker 3: as bravado or bragging full of myself, and therefore I
Speaker 3: try and offset it with some humility and reality and
Speaker 3: to yours truly, if you ask me. Hey, I think
Speaker 3: I'm a great guy. I'm well thought out. Everything I
Speaker 3: say is with common sense. Everything I say makes sense
Speaker 3: and well. What I also say is I may not
Speaker 3: always be right, but I'm never wrong, which is backed
Speaker 3: up by I don't know if I'm smart. That's for
Speaker 3: others to decide, but I know I'm well trained. But
Speaker 3: this is where I want to go. And I have
Speaker 3: a story I want to tell you that happened a
Speaker 3: while ago, but reoccurred last week. I was cold eccentric.
Speaker 3: I always wore eccentric as a badge of honor. I
Speaker 3: thought it was cool to be eccentric. But let me
Speaker 3: play it for you again. This is what eccentric is.
Speaker 5: Eccentric as an adjective definition one of a person or
Speaker 5: their behavior unconventional and slightly strange, as in my favorite
Speaker 5: aunt is very eccentric. In a technical sense, definition two
Speaker 5: of a thing not play centrally, or not having its
Speaker 5: axis or other part play centrally, as in a servo
Speaker 5: driving an eccentric ham. As a noun definition, one a
Speaker 5: person of unconventional and slightly strange views or behavior, as
Speaker 5: in he enjoys a colorful reputation. As an engaging, eccentric.
Speaker 3: So I'll say I've always been different. Some would say
Speaker 3: I beat to my own drum. Others I'd say I'm up.
Speaker 2: I don't know what do I say?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: You know I'm not full of myself. I'm not apologizing.
Speaker 3: I was with a group of people the other night
Speaker 3: and were shooting the breeze, and I decided to hold court, talking,
Speaker 3: you know, okay about my wardrobe. And one woman said
Speaker 3: to me, you don't mark. Every time I see you,
Speaker 3: you're wearing a navy suit. So I decided to be playful.
Speaker 3: How do I look? She says, you always look great
Speaker 3: to me. Now I'm thinking, is this where I'm going
Speaker 3: to get into trouble?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: I look at her and say, well, how good is good?
Speaker 3: And she says you look great?
Speaker 2: Why? Ass?
Speaker 3: She said? Seriously? Yeah, you said I look good. I'm curious.
Speaker 3: Are you fishing for compliments?
Speaker 2: Mark?
Speaker 3: No, I'm interested in what you have to say. Now
Speaker 3: I'm being charming, or at least I think I am.
Speaker 3: I I'm watching what's going on the table and I'm
Speaker 3: liking this. And she says, okay, I'll answer you. First
Speaker 3: of all, you're handsome.
Speaker 2: I start to walk thank you.
Speaker 3: You have great hair and your shirt serves you well.
Speaker 3: Now I'm feeling like Brad Pitten. I go to the
Speaker 3: Larry David mode with that. You like the navy, I
Speaker 3: love it, And here we go. I have a story
Speaker 3: to tell, and I start to tell the story, and
Speaker 3: the story goes. I'm thinking, how I tell you. I
Speaker 3: had been in the industry for a while, and I
Speaker 3: tried very different things. I was a fashionable kind of
Speaker 3: guy and I was following fashion, or should I say
Speaker 3: I was chasing it, and I literally was chasing it
Speaker 3: down the wrong street. I got myself into fashion faux pars,
Speaker 3: and I wore banded collars with a suit, you know
Speaker 3: those dress shirts without a collar buttons, and then I
Speaker 3: can look out fool. I went to a charity event
Speaker 3: and I wore an orange shirt. At the time, my
Speaker 3: company was making shirts out of nylon dress shirts. They
Speaker 3: were cold Kiana, they came in different colors. They are
Speaker 3: very silky looking. But I bought an orange one with
Speaker 3: an orange white and navy print tie with a navy suit.
Speaker 3: And that night I took a picture with the then
Speaker 3: Governor of New York and I brought it home and
Speaker 3: I opened up. I looked at the picture, says, what
Speaker 3: an idiot? I look like an idiot. I can't believe
Speaker 3: I did this. I was so upset with myself, and
Speaker 3: I realized right then and there, I had to change
Speaker 3: my look. And I started struggling. And it went on
Speaker 3: for about a week. I would never wear a colored
Speaker 3: shirt again. One day I put on a navy suit,
Speaker 3: white shirt, navy blue tie, black tesseled loaf for Sterling
Speaker 3: silver cuff links, and a Sterling silver Rolex watch. And
Speaker 3: I look in the mirror and I think, for me,
Speaker 3: I look amazing. I call over my wife and I said,
Speaker 3: look in the mirror, Sue, what do you see? She
Speaker 3: looks at me, says you. I said, no, no, what
Speaker 3: do you see? She says, help me here? I said,
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what you see. You see me looking
Speaker 3: the best I possibly could look. I am never going
Speaker 3: to wear anything but a navy blue suit. And for
Speaker 3: twenty years I had all my suits made to order.
Speaker 3: They were all navy blue. They were different ways somewhere
Speaker 3: to winter, they were single breasted and double breasted. Every
Speaker 3: single day for twenty years, I wore navy blue suit,
Speaker 3: white shirts, Sterling silver cofflings, navy tie, black tauseil loafers,
Speaker 3: and stain the steel rollers watch. And I explained that
Speaker 3: when I met people who didn't know me, or we
Speaker 3: hired new people to work, I'd have to take them
Speaker 3: aside and say to them, listen, you're gonna see me
Speaker 3: what you think is the same thing every day. And
Speaker 3: I do wear a uniform. This is it that you're
Speaker 3: looking at it. But I want you to know all
Speaker 3: the suits are numbered, all the shoes and number, the
Speaker 3: shirts and number. They're all different. But I believe I
Speaker 3: look best this way, and that's what you're going to
Speaker 3: see every day. But I didn't want you to think
Speaker 3: I'm slovenly and I you know, and I told this story,
Speaker 3: which I think is funny. After all, we all struggle
Speaker 3: to look our best. We all want to look our best.
Speaker 3: The show package yourself as important as the products.
Speaker 2: Your package. I'm a product. I want to look the
Speaker 2: best I can.
Speaker 3: I found out what I look best in and I
Speaker 3: wanted to wear it every day. And the woman at
Speaker 3: the table who before was telling me how good I look.
Speaker 3: I'm feeling really proud, and she says to me, I
Speaker 3: didn't know you were in eccentric, I said, thank you.
Speaker 3: Is that good? Well, it means you're different, different in
Speaker 3: a good way. And she pauses and says, you want
Speaker 3: me to be honest? I said what I always would.
Speaker 3: I said, no, I want you to lie to me.
Speaker 3: She said, eccentric means you're strange. Now how did I
Speaker 3: go from being really good looking with great hair and
Speaker 3: interesting to strange in the next minute? How because I
Speaker 3: opened my big mouth? Like I said earlier, talking gets
Speaker 3: me in trouble. Now, I don't think I'm eccentric. In fact,
Speaker 3: you know, I struggled with it for many years, thinking
Speaker 3: about me in the same suit every day, until one
Speaker 3: day I read an article about Alblet Einstein, who wore
Speaker 3: the same suit every day. I don't know if he
Speaker 3: had more than one, but when asked about he said, look,
Speaker 3: I don't want to think about clothes. I want to
Speaker 3: think about relativity. And kind of made me feel good.
Speaker 3: But I'll double back down on this.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: I have a bunch of cars. I have two sports
Speaker 3: cars and a bunch of SUVs, and they're all black.
Speaker 3: And you would ask, why would you buy all the
Speaker 3: same cars that are black? The two sports cars look
Speaker 3: alike the two SUVs will look alike. Why all black,
Speaker 3: I said, because it came to me one day after
Speaker 3: I tried gray, I've tried white that I like black
Speaker 3: best of all. Black is my favorite color in the car,
Speaker 3: no matter which car I'm driving, I wanted to look
Speaker 3: my favorite, which is black. You're eccentric again, I'm eccentric,
Speaker 3: which got me to the other thing. I don't know
Speaker 3: about the rest of you. Those of you married your
Speaker 3: significant other sessue what you want for dinner that night?
Speaker 3: My wife at six in the morning, I'm getting dressed,
Speaker 3: What do you want for dinner?
Speaker 2: At night?
Speaker 3: I don't know what I want for dinner. I haven't
Speaker 3: even brushed my teeth yet. She is, what I have
Speaker 3: to prepare? What do you want? I said, I don't know.
Speaker 3: So every night I would have something different. And one
Speaker 3: night in particular, my wife made roasted chicken. The minute
Speaker 3: I walked in the house. It smelled unbelievable. I ate
Speaker 3: it the way she prepared it was so delicious. The
Speaker 3: chicken was falling off the bones. And at dinner, I
Speaker 3: said to her, Sue, no matter what happens, don't ask
Speaker 3: me what I want for dinner anymore. This is what
Speaker 3: I want for dinner every night. She said, what do
Speaker 3: you mean every night? I want this for dinner every
Speaker 3: single night. You ever see the army and they show
Speaker 3: you how a guy could take his rifle apart and
Speaker 3: put it back together his eyes closed. My wife got
Speaker 3: to the point where she can clean the chicken without looking.
Speaker 3: She knew how to do it because every night, and
Speaker 3: for five years running, I had the same thing every night,
Speaker 3: roasted chicken. Now I tell this story and people think
Speaker 3: I'm crazy. They'll tell me I'm eccentric. I don't know
Speaker 3: why I loved it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: It got to a point at one time that I
Speaker 3: wanted to lose weight. I said, you know, I want
Speaker 3: to try fish. My wife made salmon three years in
Speaker 3: a row, every night salmon until one day the fish
Speaker 3: market where she bought the salmon didn't have salmon, so
Speaker 3: she bought halibu. Two years of halibu. That's been my thing. Now,
Speaker 3: if that's eccentric, I could live with it. If you're
Speaker 3: using it when you tell me that I am eccentric
Speaker 3: as a weapon against me, you're putting a bull's eye
Speaker 3: on my back and you're telling me, here's what I
Speaker 3: want to tell you, every one of us needs to
Speaker 3: know what we like best. Every one of us needs
Speaker 3: to know how we look best. Every one of us
Speaker 3: needs to know what makes us happy. So, Jesse, you
Speaker 3: could be the judge and jury. I'm gonna end this
Speaker 3: segment with you. Am I or Am I not eccentric?
Speaker 4: I think you are. I think you're an interesting guy.
Speaker 4: I think I've never I will never meet anybody in
Speaker 4: my life quite like you. You are a little weird. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you are a little weird. Good ways, bad ways. I
Speaker 4: would love for somebody to call in or somebody write
Speaker 4: in and say, Jesse, you're totally off. Your dad's just
Speaker 4: like everybody else. Really, I don't think, but I think
Speaker 4: it's a great thing, and I think you should wear
Speaker 4: it as a badge of honor. And I'm proud that
Speaker 4: you're eccentric.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you for that. All right, that's where we are, guys.
Speaker 3: Remember silence is golden, and maybe no response is a
Speaker 3: response Back in a minute.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to it Always in fashion. Here's your host,
Speaker 1: Mark Webber.
Speaker 3: We had a beautiful day this week. I said it
Speaker 3: that way, a beautiful day. We've been struggling with the
Speaker 3: weather for a long time now. We had a relatively
Speaker 3: easy winter, but man, oh man, spring has been so disappointment.
Speaker 3: And the other day it was beautiful and I ended
Speaker 3: up sitting at a restaurant for breakfast outdoors, holding court,
Speaker 3: looking around and being happy about the weather changing. Maybe
Speaker 3: started thinking about summer things, certain things that try me crazy.
Speaker 3: I've often said to you that I don't mind spending money,
Speaker 3: but I hate wasting it. I had a period where
Speaker 3: McDonald's diet cokes or a dollar nine, no matter what
Speaker 3: size you brought, and I'd give the person at the
Speaker 3: window the drive and a dollar ten and she wouldn't
Speaker 3: give me my penny back. I'd look on her, say
Speaker 3: you owe me a penny, and she'd say, do you
Speaker 3: want it? I said, why wouldn't I want it? Why
Speaker 3: would I give it to you? She has to call
Speaker 3: over a manager for approval to open the register, and
Speaker 3: she's pissed at me. But what do I care. It's
Speaker 3: my dollar, my penny. The same woman I come the
Speaker 3: next day. He goes, oh, it's you again. I said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: it is. I have a question for you. If I
Speaker 3: would give you a dollar eight, would you take it?
Speaker 3: She said maybe, I said, because it's me, She said maybe.
Speaker 3: I'm laughing at my said no, really, would you take
Speaker 3: a dollar eight? She says, I might, but it's a
Speaker 3: dollar nine, so why should I give you my penny?
Speaker 3: What got me thinking about this? I'm sitting out at
Speaker 3: an outdoor cafe having breakfast. I ordered a bagel, dry bagel,
Speaker 3: and I ordered a diet coke. I'm trying them every
Speaker 3: once in a while again, and I said a lot
Speaker 3: of ice and what have you? And she served me
Speaker 3: die coke the ice litle bottle and poured it in
Speaker 3: went away, and I was scooping out my bagel and
Speaker 3: drinking my diet coke. I hadn't had one in a
Speaker 3: real long time, ever since I found out they can
Speaker 3: kill you. So anyway, while I'm eating and looking around,
Speaker 3: the waiter comes by and tops off my glass. Now,
Speaker 3: let me tell you something. If there's one thing in
Speaker 3: this life I hate more than anything as a waiter
Speaker 3: or waitress topping off my glass. You see, there is
Speaker 3: a sacred relationship between ice and liquid. Now you think
Speaker 3: about it. When you get ice in a drink, is
Speaker 3: it to make it lukewarm or is it to make
Speaker 3: it cold? And in my view, the more ice or
Speaker 3: the ice must be always above the liquid. To have
Speaker 3: something that's really cold, you never order I'd like a
Speaker 3: lukewarm diet coke, or lukewarm iced tea, or lukewarm soda
Speaker 3: club soda. No, she topped it off, and it started
Speaker 3: me thinking about summer thing. I will tell you the
Speaker 3: best diet cokes in the world are at McDonald's, only
Speaker 3: followed closely by the cheesecake factory. So those of you,
Speaker 3: when you listen to me and think I'm a snob,
Speaker 3: i am not. I'm a man of the people. But
Speaker 3: here I am having breakfast, sitting out at the cafe
Speaker 3: looking at people going by. Now you might wonder where
Speaker 3: am I going with this? Well, you'll see in a minute,
Speaker 3: because I've always said packaging yourself is important as the
Speaker 3: products you package. And I'm watching now before I go there,
Speaker 3: before I'm at this breakfast. The other night, I'm in
Speaker 3: my favorite restaurant having dinner. The weather was beautiful that day.
Speaker 3: I noticed in a booth next to where I'm sitting,
Speaker 3: there's a young guy, good look guy and his parents
Speaker 3: and they're talking and I'm just looking and I look
Speaker 3: down and I see he's wearing shorts. I'll come back
Speaker 3: to that. And he's wearing flip flops. And I said
Speaker 3: to myself, I want to throw up. If there's one
Speaker 3: thing in this world I don't want to see. I
Speaker 3: told you what I don't want waiters to what I
Speaker 3: don't want to see in the summer. I don't want
Speaker 3: to see your feet. I'm not interested in you in
Speaker 3: flip flops. I'm looking at this guy and say, what
Speaker 3: a schmuck. Why do you think you're saying? What's this
Speaker 3: statement you're making now? All of you who wear shorts
Speaker 3: and all of you wear flip flops, all of you
Speaker 3: who are saying I don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: All you're saying I'm an idiot.
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 3: It is not your best look. Your feet aren't nice.
Speaker 3: I don't want to see your legs. Nobody cares about it.
Speaker 3: Half of you aren't tan. Even if you are, you
Speaker 3: have ankle spots. I don't want to see it. It
Speaker 3: drives me crazy. So here I am now sitting at
Speaker 3: this cafe and the guy walks by, and he's wearing
Speaker 3: shorts and flip flops. In the back of his feet
Speaker 3: are cut like women who wear these tight shoes. I
Speaker 3: have to have bandages. And again I want to throw up.
Speaker 3: And I'm watching, and I'm watching all these people walk by. Guys,
Speaker 3: unless you're Brad Pitt, don't wear shorts. You don't look
Speaker 3: good in them. It ain't your best look. But they
Speaker 3: don't keep you cool. Shorts do not keep you cool.
Speaker 3: You want to go and understand where we are. Let's
Speaker 3: look at our friends in the Arabia. They wear those gowns,
Speaker 3: they wear those things. They cover their head, they cover
Speaker 3: the whole body because it keeps them cool. They're in
Speaker 3: the middle of the desert. They must know something we don't.
Speaker 3: I go out on the golf course, I see these guys.
Speaker 3: They're wearing the shorts with the lotion on their legs.
Speaker 3: The hottest can be. I'm wearing long pants and I'm
Speaker 3: not hot, so it doesn't make you cool, and it
Speaker 3: certainly doesn't make you look good. So I don't know
Speaker 3: what you're thinking about. In fact, when I watch these
Speaker 3: people walking pie, I'm sitting there and saying, you know what,
Speaker 3: I should have made up T shirts for all these
Speaker 3: people walking by and selling them, and on the T
Speaker 3: shirts print I own this T shirt. I'm a schmuck.
Speaker 3: I'm wearing shorts of flip flops. I can make a
Speaker 3: fortune because you all look like schmucks. My favorite story
Speaker 3: of all, favorite story of all is I'm in Spain.
Speaker 3: Not only am in Spain, It's Sunday. I have the
Speaker 3: day off. I'm gonna be by myself and I'm going
Speaker 3: to see chiz sechs is in like the riviera of Spain,
Speaker 3: and I figure I'm gonna go to sea chairs and
Speaker 3: hang out on the beach, spend the day looking at
Speaker 3: everybody going by, hang out, get a tan, go in
Speaker 3: the water.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 3: I get a call the night before Saturday night. Hey
Speaker 3: market's John. Who's John, my big boss?
Speaker 2: Hey John? What's up? He says?
Speaker 3: I got a surprise for you, said, Okay, what's up?
Speaker 3: He says, I'm going to meet you tomorrow on Sea Chaz.
Speaker 3: So my heart drops out here. I am he's meeting me?
Speaker 3: I was, yeah, and I have three other people with me.
Speaker 3: So great, Hey, John, Gret, what are we doing. Well,
Speaker 3: I'll take the train with you and we'll go to
Speaker 3: Sea Chairs. We'll have some lunch. We'll go to the beach. Now,
Speaker 3: I am not a breakfast to lunch guy. When a
Speaker 3: beach is staring in front of me, I want to
Speaker 3: get out there. If anything, I'll have a drink. I'll
Speaker 3: bring it to the beach on life. So you get
Speaker 3: to Sea Chairs, me and four other people and John
Speaker 3: the boss, and John says to me, all right, let's
Speaker 3: all have lunch.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Why does he want to have lunch? Because he's an
Speaker 3: experienced guy. He wants the experience of sitting on the
Speaker 3: Spanish Riviera, eating outdoors, looking out at the sand, looking
Speaker 3: out at the ocean, drinking abouttle wine, getting s faced
Speaker 3: a little drunk. He's always drinking. He had a bad
Speaker 3: drinking problem. He wants to be drunk looking out at
Speaker 3: the beach. And I say, we get there, right, We
Speaker 3: all go towards the rest and I say, listen, guys,
Speaker 3: I'm going to go to the beach. I'll see you
Speaker 3: when you're done. And he looks at me. He says,
Speaker 3: you're not going to the beach. I said, I beg
Speaker 3: your pardon. He said, we're all having lunch. I said,
Speaker 3: but I don't want to have a lunch. He said, Mark,
Speaker 3: you're having lunch. I said, I'm not having lunch. And
Speaker 3: he looks at me and he says, if you don't
Speaker 3: have lunch with us, you don't work for the company anymore.
Speaker 3: You believe this. And I'm saying to myself, f me, Now,
Speaker 3: why am I telling you the story in the middle
Speaker 3: of all this. Why because John is wearing shorts and
Speaker 3: a Hawaiian shirt and sandals with black socks. You want
Speaker 3: to talk about a schmuck or a nerd, that's what
Speaker 3: he looks like. And he forced me and everybody else
Speaker 3: to sit there and have lunch for two hours while
Speaker 3: he got drunk on wine. I sipped a little. I
Speaker 3: must admit it was good Spanish wine, very good. But
Speaker 3: here's the way the story gets interesting, and it's about
Speaker 3: human nature. After two hours of this, we watched him
Speaker 3: stumble across the beach. He puts two towels down on
Speaker 3: the floor, lies down face first, passes out in the sun.
Speaker 2: I let him bake. I let him bake.
Speaker 3: So he had that tan on his legs from the
Speaker 3: top of his black socks to the shorts and he
Speaker 3: was in pain. The point is, you want to be
Speaker 3: a schmuck, do it by yourself. Don't make me part
Speaker 3: into it. And John, if you would have made no
Speaker 3: response rather than a response, this would have been fine.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you have to let people do what they want
Speaker 3: to do. Have another story to tell you. It has
Speaker 3: to do with business and shoes. Actually, back in the day,
Speaker 3: I was senior vice president of sportswear for van Usen
Speaker 3: and I had a great life at that time because
Speaker 3: the corporate vision was still in the twelve ninety sixth Avenue,
Speaker 3: the corporate headquarters, and we had just bought the Izard Company,
Speaker 3: and my job was to run Izard and the rest
Speaker 3: of the sports were companies and were a separate off
Speaker 3: site building. It was the coolest place in the world.
Speaker 3: It was like animal house. I was the senior most executive.
Speaker 3: We all pumped, We're all excited. We loved the brand.
Speaker 3: We loved the turnaround that needed to take place. We
Speaker 3: loved the responsibility, and nobody was there to tell us
Speaker 3: what to do. We had a great time. It was nuts.
Speaker 3: I was more like one of those crazy guys in
Speaker 3: Animal House than a corporate executive.
Speaker 2: At the time.
Speaker 3: This was our building. We were winning, we were rocking,
Speaker 3: we were making money. We're doing everything corporation, having a
Speaker 3: great time. I get a call one day by my
Speaker 3: boss at the time. He says, Mark, his assistant. Her
Speaker 3: name was Lucien Watt. Why do I remember everyone's name?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Lucien gets on the phone, Mark, you have to come
Speaker 3: up to the building at ten o'clock. We're having a meeting.
Speaker 3: I said, but I'm down here. Says we need you
Speaker 3: up here.
Speaker 2: So I go there.
Speaker 3: I get there at ten o'clock that day and I
Speaker 3: walk into the boardroom and everybody in the boardroom is depressed.
Speaker 3: And I walk and I look at them all and said,
Speaker 3: you know, i'd tell you you'll look depressed, but I'll
Speaker 3: tell you what, every time I'm here, you.
Speaker 2: All look like this. Get a life.
Speaker 3: And my boss says to me, he says, Mark, shut
Speaker 3: the f up and sit down. I look at him
Speaker 3: and said, why, what's going on?
Speaker 2: He said, sit down?
Speaker 3: So I sit down and he looks around the room
Speaker 3: and he says, look, Mark, we have a problem with
Speaker 3: our shoe company. At the time, we own Ghpas shoes.
Speaker 3: Great Shoes are still a great company. My title sponsored
Speaker 3: G three owned Spare shoes. They're doing great. But at
Speaker 3: this point in time, he starts to say, we had
Speaker 3: a plan to make fifteen million dollars this year in
Speaker 3: gh Bath and it looks like we may lose ten.
Speaker 3: So what says there's a lot of problems and messed up.
Speaker 3: We're in trouble. So I'm looking around the groom. I said, okay,
Speaker 3: now I'm glad I'm here. You want my opinion, He said,
Speaker 3: that's why we brought you here. This is here's what
Speaker 3: we should do. We should all be on a plane
Speaker 3: Monday morning, go to Portland, Maine, check into the Marriotta
Speaker 3: Hotel next to the Bass office in Portland, Maine, and
Speaker 3: not leave until we fix what's wrong. He said, that's
Speaker 3: exactly what you're gonna do.
Speaker 2: Mark.
Speaker 3: He starts to look at me and laugh. I said,
Speaker 3: what he says, that's what you're gonna do. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go to Maine by myself. No, You're going to go
Speaker 3: to Maine to help Michael. Michael is another guy in
Speaker 3: the company that we're gonna name him temporary CEO of
Speaker 3: the company, and I was going to go to help him.
Speaker 3: I said, what does he need be for? We need
Speaker 3: your mark. We want you to look at the product.
Speaker 3: We want you to look at them the marketing. We
Speaker 3: want you to help Michael get this place on track
Speaker 3: again to building. Michael's a great financial eye, a good
Speaker 3: operations guy. We know what you could do. We need
Speaker 3: you to help him. So I'm going to report to him.
Speaker 3: So I everybody, I'll be back in a minute. Takes
Speaker 3: me into his office. He points his figure into his
Speaker 3: face and he said, I told you you're going to
Speaker 3: be the president of this corporation in a couple of months,
Speaker 3: and I told you to behave, So just behave. Do
Speaker 3: what I need the board needs us do it. I said, okay,
Speaker 3: So I end up going to Maine. Get on the
Speaker 3: plane Monday morning, I meet Michael and Maine he's in
Speaker 3: the office.
Speaker 2: I have a cubby hole. Anyway, I'm there to help him, and.
Speaker 3: We start out and he said, look, why don't you
Speaker 3: take a look at what they're doing. If you ask
Speaker 3: me what's selling, I can tell you pretty much. Nothing selling.
Speaker 3: We have a problem. We need to go in and
Speaker 3: look at it. So I go in and I meet
Speaker 3: with the management team and shoes first, that's where the
Speaker 3: big opportunity always has, best shoes, best footwear. I meet
Speaker 3: with the women's group and I look at all the
Speaker 3: shoes there, and nothing's exciting me. You know, women's shoes.
Speaker 3: I've never worn them, of course, but I could appreciate them.
Speaker 2: You know. I found out when I.
Speaker 3: Was in the Goodman's business at decan Y that you're
Speaker 3: allowed to use the word sexy, you're allowed to use
Speaker 3: the word hot. They all do it. That's what they're
Speaker 3: trying to create. So I didn't know that. Then in
Speaker 3: Bass I was Camfitable and I said, and I looked
Speaker 3: at them, and I said, these are not what's really
Speaker 3: happening in women's shoes. How do you know, Mark, I said,
Speaker 3: I look at women, don't you Everybody looks at everybody.
Speaker 3: I look at the man, I look at women. This
Speaker 3: is not happening these shoes. There's too many penny loaf
Speaker 3: as women are wearing Penny Loaves. They're wearing those pumps
Speaker 3: that make clock every time you wear They were cold Well,
Speaker 3: I don't want to say what they were called, but
Speaker 3: they were all wearing these pumps and I said, you
Speaker 3: have none of them. They say to me, that's not Bath.
Speaker 3: I said to them, how could this possibly be? Every
Speaker 3: woman in the world is wearing this trend and you're
Speaker 3: telling me not Bath. Can't there be a version of
Speaker 3: it that's not Bath? So I left the women's team
Speaker 3: to themselves and I said, woodheads. And but before I left,
Speaker 3: and I said, you know, if I put a slogan
Speaker 3: on the Bath, this women's footwear line, you know what
Speaker 3: I give it bass shoes for women who don't shave
Speaker 3: their legs.
Speaker 2: I walked out.
Speaker 3: I don't know how many people were pissed at Babe.
Speaker 3: I walked out. I walked into the men's group. Same thing.
Speaker 3: All Penny Loaf was all tired, and at the time,
Speaker 3: Kenneth Coal was hot as a pistol. I don't know
Speaker 3: where Kenneth Cole is right now, but when Kenneth Cold
Speaker 3: was Kenneth Coal, his shoes were on fire. What they
Speaker 3: did is they took modern black shoes and made them
Speaker 3: wearable for at night with your sports. You go on
Speaker 3: a night black pants, black shoes. They were great shoes.
Speaker 3: They were dress shoes, but they had more style than
Speaker 3: anyone else's. And if you wore them in the day
Speaker 3: with a black out for the jeans, they looked great.
Speaker 3: Kenneth Cole owned the look. The only other person of
Speaker 3: any consequence was I forgot. They were called don't hold
Speaker 3: me to it. But there was no industrial looking boots,
Speaker 3: and everyone was wearing them, and I looked, wear are
Speaker 3: your boots that's not for us? Wear your black shoes
Speaker 3: not for us? Were bess And I looked at them
Speaker 3: and I said, listen, I'm watching it listening. Do you
Speaker 3: do you want to be the last company making buggy
Speaker 3: whips for horse and chariots.
Speaker 2: You can't just stick.
Speaker 3: You gotta find a way to do this on your own.
Speaker 3: But I failed miserably. But before I left, I said,
Speaker 3: we're gonna have another meeting later. I went back to
Speaker 3: them later and said, here's what we're gonna do. You're
Speaker 3: gonna do what you wanna do, and I'm gonna do
Speaker 3: what I want to do, and we're gonna put it together.
Speaker 3: There's a scene In the movie Days of Thunder, Robert
Speaker 3: Duval is the engineer. He builds the race cars. Tom
Speaker 3: Cruise drives him. He just becomes a race car driver
Speaker 3: and they can't win. And every time they race, they
Speaker 3: can't or practice, they can't get to finish the race
Speaker 3: because they wear out the tires. Robert Duval says to
Speaker 3: him at one point, he's advised, you gotta talk to
Speaker 3: him like an equal, don't talk down to him. He says,
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I'd like to do. Why don't
Speaker 3: we do this first, We'll run the race. You race
Speaker 3: any way you want. We're gonna have the same tires
Speaker 3: you race. Tom Cruise comes back to tires oral run,
Speaker 3: he can't race his speed. Robert Davals says, now, now
Speaker 3: I'm going to work with you while you're racing. Tell
Speaker 3: you when to make the turns, how to do there.
Speaker 3: It comes back Robert de Vell's tires are perfect condition,
Speaker 3: and he pats the tires and he goes your way,
Speaker 3: my way. I did that with the best people. Listen,
Speaker 3: you have your idea, I have mine. We're going to
Speaker 3: work together. Here's what we're going to do. I want you
Speaker 3: to create five rows of shoes for men. The first
Speaker 3: row is going to be the most avant garde black
Speaker 3: shoes you're gonna I'll do Kenneth Cole in modernization of
Speaker 3: men's shoes. Well, the second row is going to be
Speaker 3: moderated to look like Kenneth Cole, but with your style,
Speaker 3: but they're also black. The third row is going to
Speaker 3: be bass. Let me see what you think if Bess
Speaker 3: was in the dress shoe business, what it would look like.
Speaker 3: And of course the next few rows will be your
Speaker 3: traditional bass shoes, but you'll do them in black Norwegians
Speaker 3: the Penny loves whatever. I left them and went out,
Speaker 3: and I said, I'll be back in a week. I
Speaker 3: want to see this, even if you have to go
Speaker 3: out and buy storebus shoes, go buy shoes from Italy. Go.
Speaker 3: I want to see what those rows will look like,
Speaker 3: and I want the line to be crafted that way.
Speaker 3: So I go back to the head of design in
Speaker 3: womenswear and I said, where are you next week?
Speaker 2: I said Monday. I'm in New York.
Speaker 3: I said, I'm going to be in our offices two
Speaker 3: hundred Madison Avenue on Monday. I need you to come
Speaker 3: see me. This is why I said, I want to
Speaker 3: talk to you about fashion. He says, okay, I'll see
Speaker 3: you Monday morning. What time you want me? I want
Speaker 3: you eleven o'clock. Comes by eleven o'clock. I said, hey, Soal,
Speaker 3: I'm glad you're here. We're going on a road trip.
Speaker 3: Where are we going? I said, First, I want to
Speaker 3: tell you what.
Speaker 2: We're going to do.
Speaker 3: I need you to get a pen and paper. I said, okay,
Speaker 3: what I need for? I said, we're going to make
Speaker 3: some notes. You know how you count one to five
Speaker 3: and then you put a slash through it. You know,
Speaker 3: you know stick lines, You do one, two, three, four
Speaker 3: and put a slash through five. We're going to keep count.
Speaker 3: We're going on a road trip. Crick, where are we going?
Speaker 3: Come with me. I get in the elevator with him again.
Speaker 3: He says, where were going on a road trip? He
Speaker 3: said to the corner, He liokten, what do you mean?
Speaker 3: I said, here's what we're going to do. Get out
Speaker 3: of the building on the corner. I said, you and
Speaker 3: I got to stand there. You have your pen and paper.
Speaker 3: I'm going to ask you to be the scribed. I said,
Speaker 3: we're gonna watch the women walk by now and here's
Speaker 3: what we're gonna do. Every woman who comes by with
Speaker 3: those sexy shoes that are opening the back and are
Speaker 3: flopping every time she walks, we're gonna put a stick mark,
Speaker 3: and we're gonna count how many of them there are.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna keep count of all the women wearing
Speaker 3: penny loafers and the shoes that you don't need to
Speaker 3: shave your legs for. He says, you're kidding me. You
Speaker 3: called me here for that. I said, yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: make a point to you. So we're standing on the
Speaker 3: corner and all the women are clacking, clacking, clacking, clacking.
Speaker 3: Everyone's wearing stylish shoes. Everyone's wearing these sexy shoes, every
Speaker 3: one of the women are wearing, and there's nobody wearing
Speaker 3: penny loavers. The end of I don't know a half hour,
Speaker 3: there's fifty of those checkmoks on his page and two
Speaker 3: on mine. I said, I want to make a point
Speaker 3: to you. It's too easy to say no, the world
Speaker 3: is changing. You've got one of the world's great brands.
Speaker 3: Bess put the shoes on. Admiral Birdwin navigated the North Pole.
Speaker 3: Charles Lindbergh wore best boots when he flew the planes.
Speaker 3: We have his history, and you're telling me you can't
Speaker 3: be bess. We have to take on women's shoes, modernized
Speaker 3: and make them current, make them exciting, but do it
Speaker 3: in the best way. You have a special label, you
Speaker 3: have a special stitching, you have a special technique, you
Speaker 3: have a certain kind of leather. I'm not a post
Speaker 3: any of that, but I want to make shoes for
Speaker 3: women that are current and trendy. Fast forward a week later,
Speaker 3: I came back and saw the men's I was out
Speaker 3: I was outraged. How great it was when you gave
Speaker 3: people directions and told them this is what you do,
Speaker 3: and I had the authority to make them do it.
Speaker 3: There was no question that they were there and I
Speaker 3: was the boss. There's no question. The CEO, Michael gave
Speaker 3: me his authority to do what needed to be done
Speaker 3: to get this and they had him and they over
Speaker 3: delivered on what we saw. A week later, the women's
Speaker 3: team came back with flip flop shoes. Women wear shoes, clocking.
Speaker 3: The women are wearing nich shoes, were shaving their legs.
Speaker 3: These were looking great. This was a great thing, and
Speaker 3: everybody got energized everyone got excited. Everyone got on board
Speaker 3: to revitalize the besque company that wasn't making money into
Speaker 3: a winning company again. And it wasn't all that hard.
Speaker 3: It was the wisdom to do what's right, be current
Speaker 3: for the one thing we know about this industry detail
Speaker 3: luxury fashion. It changes, you have to change. Six months later,
Speaker 3: we call a meeting Saturday night for all the executives
Speaker 3: in BASS and the senior most executives in the company,
Speaker 3: including the board of directors, if they can come with
Speaker 3: their spouses. We had six hundred people in a ballroom
Speaker 3: in Portland, Maine, come to see the presentation of a
Speaker 3: new basque company and it was extraordinary. We had photography
Speaker 3: the show with the advertising we look, We had the shoes,
Speaker 3: We had them on tables, we had pictures of them
Speaker 3: that would blow them up on the screen. Everything was
Speaker 3: laid out. Men at work with the fashion shoes, men
Speaker 3: women at work with the fashion shoes for women. Each
Speaker 3: one the industrial have boots and everyone had a bass flare.
Speaker 3: And it was one of the most exciting nights for
Speaker 3: me in my career. Not because we were successful in
Speaker 3: creating energy, not because I was the host of the
Speaker 3: evening and I did a lot of the talking, but
Speaker 3: during the presentation, the CEO of the company, my friend
Speaker 3: handed me a piece of paper. He always wrote in
Speaker 3: reading and honored written in reading. He wrote, while I'm
Speaker 3: on the stage, this is your finest hour. I've never
Speaker 3: been more proud of you. You gave credit to everyone else,
Speaker 3: and the only person you didn't mention was yourself, and
Speaker 3: because of that the credit goes to you. Thank you, BJK,
Speaker 3: great night, great story. I didn't have anything to say.
Speaker 3: I was speechless, and probably that was best, because sometimes
Speaker 3: no response is the best response. Take a break back
Speaker 3: in a minute.
Speaker 2: Always in fashion.
Speaker 3: Donna Karen began her career as one of the finest,
Speaker 3: most successful, powerful women in the fashion industry. She developed
Speaker 3: a collection aimed at the luxury market for women on
Speaker 3: the go, women who were powerful in their workplace, women
Speaker 3: who had lives that extended beyond the workplace, and her
Speaker 3: clothes went from day and to night. An extraordinary collection.
Speaker 3: But the interesting thing Donna Karen had a young daughter,
Speaker 3: and she had friends, and they couldn't afford to buy
Speaker 3: the Donna Karen collection, and Donna invented DKNY. Donna Aaron,
Speaker 3: New York. It's an offshoot of the Donna Karen collection.
Speaker 3: The same concept a lifestyle brand. Now we talk about
Speaker 3: lifestyle brands, what does that really mean? Simply what they say,
Speaker 3: there are brands that follow you throughout your lifestyle. You
Speaker 3: get up in the morning, you start to get dressed
Speaker 3: Donna Karen decan why as in mid apparel, as hosiery,
Speaker 3: as all those products. You're getting dressed for work. You
Speaker 3: get accessorized shoes, handbags, and it takes you through the day.
Speaker 3: The remarkable thing about DK and Y clothes for work,
Speaker 3: they work into the evening. The dresses, the suits, the pants,
Speaker 3: the sweaters, the blouses, extraordinary clothes at affordable prices that
Speaker 3: go from day in tonight. Part of your lifestyle is active.
Speaker 3: You have weekends, you have events, you participate in sports.
Speaker 3: Donna Karen's casual clothes did that under the DK and
Speaker 3: Y label. A vast array of casual sportswear that make
Speaker 3: women look great as they navigate their busy lives. Whether
Speaker 3: you're going to soccer games for your children, or whether
Speaker 3: you're going out to the movies, whatever you want to do,
Speaker 3: dkn Y Jeans, dc Y sportswear is there for you.
Speaker 3: That's what a lifestyle brand is. I need to mention
Speaker 3: DKY active Wear, which is extraordinary, the leggings, the sports bras,
Speaker 3: the sweats. You can wear DKY activewear certainly in the gym,
Speaker 3: certainly when you're working out at home, and certainly if
Speaker 3: you want on the street, because it's that well done.
Speaker 3: The quality of DKY is nothing short of exceptional. And
Speaker 3: why shouldn't it be because it was born from the
Speaker 3: idea of luxury made affordable for women of America. DK
Speaker 3: and why a true lifestyle brand that takes you from
Speaker 3: day and tonight, from the week into the weekend DCN.
Speaker 3: Why you can find DCNY and Macy's DKY dot com.
Speaker 3: As one of the world's most celebrated fashion designers, car
Speaker 3: Lagafeld was renowned for his aspirational and cutting edge approach
Speaker 3: to style. His unique vision of Parisian shit comes to
Speaker 3: America through car Lagefeld Paris. He has women's collections, men's collections,
Speaker 3: ready to wear, accessory, shoes and bags. The fashion house
Speaker 3: Carlagafeld also offers a range of watches, eyewear, and premium fragrances.
Speaker 3: You can explore the Carlagofil collection at carlagofelpowers dot com.
Speaker 3: But it's more than that. I for one, love to shop.
Speaker 3: I love going around and seeing what's happening and what
Speaker 3: catches my attention, what would make me feel good to
Speaker 3: wear now. I don't wear the women's wear obviously, but
Speaker 3: I can appreciate it, and they look amazing. If you
Speaker 3: want to look right, you want to have clothes that
Speaker 3: fits you well. You want to look like you're wearing
Speaker 3: something that's very expensive, that's exclusive for you and yours.
Speaker 3: You can find it at very affordable prices at Macy's
Speaker 3: orcarlagofel dot com. Paris, the women's ready to wear fashion
Speaker 3: is extraordinary, as well as the handbigs and the shoes.
Speaker 3: I for one, wear men's clothes unlike my appreciation of
Speaker 3: women's clothes. I'm a modern guy. I want to look current.
Speaker 3: I want to look the way I want to feel.
Speaker 3: I go out at night, I'm in black and carlagofel
Speaker 3: is My buddy calls are great. They fit great, and
Speaker 3: they have little tweaks and touches, whether it's a stripe
Speaker 3: on the sleeve or button that the neck or on
Speaker 3: the shoulder. There's a lot of details that go into
Speaker 3: Carl Lagafel because he's always been He always had been
Speaker 3: one of the world's great designers, and this legacy and
Speaker 3: goes on and on. I can't speak enough about it
Speaker 3: except to say to you, you want to feel good
Speaker 3: about yourself. You want to know that you're dressing properly.
Speaker 3: You want to clothes that fits you well. Carl Lagafeld
Speaker 3: Paris at Macy's Orcarlagafel dot com.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to it Always in Fashion.
Speaker 2: Here's your host, Mark Webber.
Speaker 3: I've been thinking about character. I've been thinking about the
Speaker 3: night's show. Is no response is a response. Someone comes
Speaker 3: to me and answer your question. I don't feel like answering.
Speaker 3: That tells a big signal. Sometimes somebody asks you to
Speaker 3: do something, taking a moment to think about it, or
Speaker 3: pregnant pores is a big deal. Sometimes coming to you
Speaker 3: and saying I need an answer right now, and you
Speaker 3: say to someone the answer is if you need it
Speaker 3: right now. No, I deserve the right to think. I
Speaker 3: deserve the right to make decisions in my own time,
Speaker 3: my own pace. So I've been thinking a lot about
Speaker 3: the response to questions answers, because no response is a response.
Speaker 3: But I've been thinking about character. I was accused of
Speaker 3: being an eccentric, for which I was always proud to
Speaker 3: be different, and every one of us is different. We're
Speaker 3: all allowed to be ourselves. We're allowed to think the
Speaker 3: way we want to think, dressed the way we want
Speaker 3: to think, speak the way they want to think. The
Speaker 3: common bond is you have to know who you are
Speaker 3: and know who you are. You have to be responsible
Speaker 3: to yourself, because the theme of this show has always been,
Speaker 3: and it will always be, packaging yourself is as important
Speaker 3: as the products you package, and therefore, knowing who you
Speaker 3: are and what you're doing and caring about who you are.
Speaker 3: There's ways to say things, there's ways not to say things.
Speaker 3: You're entitled to your own counsel. I've often thought, what
Speaker 3: is character? People challenge the way I behave. I know
Speaker 3: I feel good about myself. I know I do the
Speaker 3: right thing. I know what honesty. It's doing the right
Speaker 3: thing when no one's looking. I know about integrity. I've
Speaker 3: wrote about it in my book Pearls of Wisdom. You
Speaker 3: ever want to know about integrity, read that chapter and
Speaker 3: always in fashion of the book. That is a backdrop
Speaker 3: Tonight's show. No Response is a response, So, if you
Speaker 3: want to ask me what I think about the show,
Speaker 3: good night,