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Let's get out to the hotline. Welcome to college football insider.
Jay Crane's on the line from Craninco on the Daily Wire.
What's up, Jake? How thatck are you? Man?
Speaker 1: It's it's an amazing time of year when you look
at the sports calendar. College basketball is heating up. I know,
look BYU. It's funny everybody keeps waiting on the government
to say whether aliens are real, and I'm watching one
play for BYU every single time they take the court.
But now, man, we got the NFL coming down to it.
Just an amazing time of year two to be a
sports fan.
Speaker 2: Hey, what's been keeping you busy this past week? Is
the college football world? What have you guys been delving
into at Craning Coke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean it's typically it's my eleven month
old that keeps me busy, but no, this. You know,
obviously there's a lot that's been going on. When you
look at on the field, who made the twelfth team playoff,
you look at the craziness of the coaching cycle, not
just you know, Sharon Moore losing his mind. But now
it seems like we've added another layer finding out that
DJ Lagway, Dylan Ryola, even Brendan Soresby from Cincinnati, who
I think is probably going to be sneaky in the portal.
It's college football is just an ever changing drama, and
it seems like it's it's to the tenth degree or
in degree or whatever at this point in time. So
there's no shortage of content, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: How would you evaluate the coaching carousel and how everything's
played out over the last month or so.
Speaker 1: Well, Look, I mean, when you have this many big
time jobs that are open within the same cycle, typically
there isn't enough supply for the demand. But I mean,
I look at some of the hires made across the board,
and starting with John Somemroll at Florida. You know, I'm
from Auburn originally, and he was the number one guy
that I wanted to get once they fired Hugh Freeze.
But I thought the Goalish hire, just from an identity
and personality standpoint, was really good. But it's hard to
sit here and not think of the absolute transformer that
got built with Lane Kiffen going to LSU, And if
they get Sam Levitt out of the portal, it's gonna
be nightmare fuel for everybody else when you put those
two guys together. So Lane going to LSU, even though
Lane doesn't have a championship, and I understand that it's
hard not to look at that marriage and at least
feel like that's probably the best marriage Lane kiff has
ever been a part of. And we'll see how long
it lasts outside of that, you know, I think that
Eric Morris hired at Oklahoma State's gonna end up being
a really good when he's a guy that really knows
how to evaluate quarterbacks. But I think there's been some
pretty good high even Penn State who looked like they
were lost in the wilderness, are like, you know, a
kid wandering around walm Are trying to find his parents.
They end up landing on Matt Campbell, who I think
is a little bit overrated, But given the circumstance of
what happened when it happened at Penn State, I think
ending up with Matt Campbell is probably about the best
case scenario. So I think there's been a lot of
really good hires this offseason. Then you've had people that
have decided to stay put. You look at Drinkawa, It's
at Missouri, you look at Kalanie Sataki at Vyu. So
I think it's been a good mix and it's been
a good cycle overall for pretty much everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who do you think has won the coaching carousel
this cycle? Is there anybody that you're like, you know what,
this is going to have the best ROI I think
lo KEI the Matt Campbell hier with the unlimited resources
that Penn State has is going to be a really
good hier. I think he actually fits the brand, and
also the recruiting base and his tentacles where he's recruited,
how he's recruited over the years, the staff that he's
going to bring along with him. I actually think that's
a low key, probably one of the best roys in
college football. Matt Campbell brought Iowa State back up from
the depths. It's not a Curt Signetti story, but it's
pretty good. It's kind of that that lower tiers that
I thought. I thought Kansas State, what they did over
the years with Chris Cleman was kind of similar to
what Matt Campbell had been doing as well. But Matt
Campll's young, vibrant has a lot of pomp and circumstance
around a lot of biggeran vment them.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Yeah, look, I think Matt's going to
do fine at Penn State. The question is is fine
Obviously isn't good enough? Right, He's gonna have to He's
gonna have to win a championship of some type. I
think probably the first three to four years to really
feel good about that ROI but if we're gonna stick
just to ro O. I. I don't know how you
don't look at Virginia Tech, Virginia Tech getting James Franklin
and saying, maybe James Franklin's not the best coach that
was in this cycle, but I feel like he's the
best person that Virginia Tech could have possibly gotten. And
only this crazy circumstance could have led to James Franklin
going to Virginia Tech. Because I'm gonna be honest with you,
But when Mike Norvell looked like he was going to
get it looked like James Franklin was holding out for
FIDA state. That doesn't happen, and then all of a sudden,
James Franklin ends up going to Virginia Tech. And you
look at the money that is already pouring in this
Virginia Tech program right now, they are all in. So
I think Virginia Tech, if we're gonna look at who
punched above their weight or you know, who brought home
the nine when they're at when they're a six, it
feels like Virginia Tech.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's a great analysis. We've got Jay Crane,
Crane and co Daily Wire here on esp and the
Fan discussing the college football coaching carousel and more. B
YU was left out. Look, if you or you look
over the last two seasons going to eleven and two,
eleven and two, they had a better resume, I think
than Miami had a better resume than Notre Dame had
a better resume, maybe even then Alabama or Oklahoma. They
were ultimately left out because they just got beat up
too badly versus the number four team in the country.
And I think what they do is they evaluate that
they're like, well, they're not gonna win the college football playoffs,
just gonna leave them out, right, Give me your analysis
on the BYU Cougar football team over the last two
years and why they've been on the outside looking into
the playoffs even though they're in a resume look pretty
good they have. They have some good cachet built up
over the last fifty years of winning at a high
level as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, if you're sitting here saying, well, if by
you can't win the national championship, why put him in?
And then you put in James Madison in tu Lane,
then I could I got some beachfront property in Kansas,
I could sell you for a price that will blow
your mind. Look, BYU fans have a right to be upset.
They have more of a right to be upset this
year than last year. But you know that's obvious. Any
BYU fan listening to this is going to think that
that they got, you know, the short end of the stick.
Speaker 2: And they did.
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of BYU fans are getting
mad at the wrong people. That the people that you
should be mad at is the way that we set
up this system that gives away automatic bids. It's you
can't have meritocracy and automatic bids at the same time.
It just doesn't work like that. And the fact that
we have two group of five teams in a twelve
team playoff when an eleven and one BYU, a ten
and two Notre Dame, a ten and two Vandy got
left out is an absolute joke and it makes it unseerious.
What we should do is it should be a fourteen
team should make the postseason the top ten and I've
got a formula for how to pick them, and it
involves a much better committee than we have right now.
The top ten are already in the tournament. We need
a play in game between the eleven and fourteen seed
and the twelve and the thirteen. Imagine being able to
have a game where BYU is playing Notre Dame, or
BYU is playing Vandy, and then Texas is playing Miami,
or are just any mix of that, and you do
it the week after the conference championship games are played,
because some teams may have to play both the way
it works out, and BYU would have been an example
of that, having to play the conference championship and then
a playing game the next weekend, which I'm sure they
would not have been upset about. And the two teams
that when that become the eleven and twelve seed and
we run our tournament out the way that we run
it with the twelve. But we don't do that because
we're stupid, and the greatest sport that God has ever
given us, and the greatest way to play that sport,
which is college, the way we pick the teams to
make the most important area of said sport is an
absolute joke and it's a disaster. And until we fix that,
all the other stuff to me is meaningless.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So then on those playing games, So we take
the Allible Bowl, the Poptarch Bowl, the Citrus Bowl, I
don't know, the Sun Bowl, and those become the playing games,
is what you're saying to get for this, it'd.
Speaker 1: Be two games. It would be two games, so you
could call them whatever. Well, you can call them a
blind hippopotamus. I don't care.
Speaker 2: Can we just get the best I'm saying you want
a corporate American invold or to be able to get there?
Do as well? Right, you've gotta have some Bowl games? Right?
Speaker 1: What do you think whatever gets us whatever? You can
put whatever name on you want, who wants to pay
the most money this that or the other. But what
we also need to do because the balls systems cooked.
Let's be honest, it's been cooked ever since we started
having these opt outs. What we need to do is
have another twelve team tournament that is set up almost
like an NIT for the teams that don't make it.
You can keep all.
Speaker 2: Those yeah, but what's the goal pragmatically, do you think
that's going to happen? What's the easiest thing that makes
every like most people happy, because they're still going to
be angry people with the big brands, the presure, big hitters, like,
what's the easiest thing to do do you think.
Speaker 1: Well, you attach nil money to it, the NIT part
of it, and that incentivizes not only the schools but
the players. We just saw that in college basketball with
the players. There are our New Era tournament whatever out
in Vegas where you can win INIL money. There's got
to be some incentive nowadays, and you'll still have guys
that opt out that are going to be first round
picks and stuff like that. And to me, I understand
that if you're not playing in the main one, but
we have way too many bowls right now. We need
to have another twelve team tournament that is a kind
of a consolation tournament with nil incentive and more people.
Can you imagine how much more money you could make
if you did it that way, because that look, it's
a business. Just like college. You think they want to
teach you, No, they want you to give them money
and then they'll teach you. You can pick a stupid degree
and they don't care. It's a business. That's what this
is at the end of the day. But I think
we can have a marriage between common sense meritocracy, the
bowl system and a smart business sense, and we just
don't do it. And it's easy to tell why when
you see who you know, we have this leadership void
at the top of the sport, and then we have
a committee full of people that are literally tied into
institutions currently that are paying them. We saw an NCAA
basketball tournament. If Bubba Cunningham, what in the head of
the selection committee in College of Basketball North Carolina ain't
getting in, I can promise you that. So it's just
like everything that's a business, there's some corruption in it.
But I do feel like we could have a solid
marriage if they'll just listen to people that love the
sport and know what they're talking about and are getting
paid by a certain institution.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Notaday probably plays in Let's say it is the
Pop Tarts Bowl this week. If it's a playing game right.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent with out of Marcus Freeman, then would
crawl up there backwards to play in that game. And
then you get a chance to go approve everybody wrong.
And I think Colonie Sataki would would do the same thing. Hey,
crk Lee from Vanderbilt was trying to schedule a thirteen
game to be able to play, So without a doubt,
those teams would play and it would get really great viewership.
It would make a lot of money, and I just
don't understand why we don't do it.
Speaker 2: How would you I've been kind of I was going through,
like how I would compartmentalize college football this season? Your
elite teams, your great teams, your very good teams, your
good teams, you're above average teams, and then average teams. Right,
I think the top definitely, the top four teams are elite. Right,
your one seeds and the jury still out on whether
or not Oregan's an elite team. I give them the
elite stash, So like one through five to me is elite.
Six through like about sixteen, I think they're all pretty compared.
Those are very good to Those are great teams, right,
I think they're great football teams. You're gonna see a
lot of like parody between those teams. You see a
lot of two loss maybe three loss teams there that
can compete there, but they're probably they're more often not
they're going to lose to the elite teams, right, depending
on neutral home away situations. And then I think you
get into like seventeen through maybe thirty that you can
say those are your good teams, very good teams. Right,
and then you get into above average and into average,
which are your Bowl eligible teams at like six and six,
five and seven. How would you compartmentalize it and would
you agree with that maybe that breakdown that I just gave.
Speaker 1: You, Yeah, I think again it's it's the prison which
through you've you know, you view it through. Do I
think there is an elite team just overall that this
team when you look at all three phases is elite
like we used to see the Bama teams and some
of the Georgia teams and some others in the past.
Ohio State, I don't know if we have an elite
full team and all three phases. I think we have
teams that have elite sides of the ball, like Ohio
State's defense is an elite side of the ball and
they're really good on offense. But I don't know if
we have an absolute elite team the way we've had
in the past. Now, when you look at the scope
of who we have this year, yes, you feel like
Ohio State's roster is as good as anybody's up there.
But I'm gonna tell you the teams that will go
the farthest, and this is always how it is whether
it's football, basketball, or baseball. When you look at a
sudden death style tournament, it is the teams that can
win the most ways and it are it is the
teams that are the closest to balance. That's why to me,
you look at a team like Texas A and M.
Texas A and M can win a game fifty to
forty nine or ten to nine. You look at a
team like Indiana, who may not be elite elite on
either side of the ball, but they're just pretty dagnam
good on each side and they play complimentary football. You
look at a team like Texas Tech, elite on defense,
questionable on offense. I've got a lot of questions about
Morton when it comes down to playing against an elite defense,
like he's going to run into Oregon. I think is
scary because they've basically got a bunch of twelve year
olds that don't realize they're not supposed to be this
good yet, but they're really talented, and Dan Lanning can
motivate better than Napoleon or a bunch of people we've
seen in the past. Oklahoma, again, elite defense right offense
has had a lot of problems, so I don't know
if we have a categorically three phase elite team, which
to me makes it more fun. I don't want to
know the end of the movie right when I go
watch the beginning of it. And I feel like we've
had that in college football a lot in the last
ten to fifteen years. But this season we did our
pick them show today the full college Football Playoff who
we have win it and stuff like that, And I'm
gonna be honest, it was harder this year than it's
been any year in the past.
Speaker 2: Who'd you pick? If you don't or is that a
tease kind of wait and see time?
Speaker 1: Here we go. I won't tell you who I picked.
You can go to Cranting Company. It's out now on YouTube.
But I'll tell you this. I've got a seed above
a seven making the National Championship Game. So I'll leave
you with that.
Speaker 2: I like that, very hot, very fiery. Let me ask
you this, okay, So, like, for how long would you say?
How many years now has the SEC and the Big
Ten dominated college football? Right? They've built up cachet equity, right,
NFL production resources, infrastructure, TV money, all these things, Like
how long have they been the two dominant conferences. Would
you say in college football.
Speaker 1: Well, if you're going to use both of them and
not just use one of them.
Speaker 2: Before, would you would you just say SEC is and
so would you just would you split those up and
say SEC is different than the Big Ten? Are they
on each side?
Speaker 1: You know? I would say, I would say this, I
think the Big Ten at the top has a better
team overall than the SEC, but I think from top
to bottom the SEC is better. But you're right, the
Big ten in the SEC. You know, if you want
to put both of them together compared to the Big
twelve and the ACC, they have been better. And I
know a lot of Big twelve fans will be like, oh, well,
you're just an an elitist noising. I promise you I'm
not saying when it said B why you should have
been in the playoffs. But I'm not going to cover
my eyes and just pretend like everybody's equal because they're not.
I would say, man, I'm gonna be honest with you.
I think for going on almost twenty years, and you
know I'm thirty six years old, so you know, some
people may want to go further than that. But I
would say the better part of two decades.
Speaker 2: Okay, so two decades. Let's say this that's the baseline,
and we lean into these brands and this equity that
has been built over the last two decades and maybe
even more than that twenty five years to what can
we attribute most of that brand equity to? And like
this power structure right when we're talking about strength of record,
strength to schedule, all these things, and the SEC and
Big Ten are like going to like nine conference games, right,
my concern is to what do we give that equity to?
What were these two conferences cheating circumventing the four NC
double A rules, as coach Orgeron mentioned, in order to
build up that equity, and so you're you're giving them
I guess, like, you know, if that is the case,
if it was done through cheating and they're trying to
create this cabal cartel keeping like leverage over the rest
of the world, It's like, wait, no, you cheated your
way into that equity, and now there's parody which you
bring up in your elite to very good, great college
football rankings. Does that make sense? That's my concern right
now in college football.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I kind of got a special attachment
to this because I coached Division one football for almost
a decade and I was at a group of five
for five years, and you know, we paid guys. So
you know, I'm not saying everybody paid, but there is.
Speaker 2: Much of that equity was built through cheating.
Speaker 1: God, I mean I would say over half. I would
think now again, yeah, but you know, at the end
of the day, if everybody pretty much everybody's cheating. If
you're that, I'm not.
Speaker 2: Everyone was allowed to cheat, though not everyone was allowed
to cheat. A allowed to You was always allowed to
chieve Texas, Texas and Oklahoma were allowed to cheat. Sometimes
us she was allowed to cheat. But even they got
Reggie Bush got reprimanded, right, Reggie Bush?
Speaker 1: Oh YAA Vama got reprimanded. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well that's what I'm saying. It's like, when were
they actually reprimanding, castigating and holding them accountable, right, And
more often than not, they looked the other way and
no one was being investigated and everyone was they were
they were built. I mean, you what was the last
team to win a national championship on like the West Coast?
I think it was USC, Right, Texas can't even win
one yet, right, It's always been over the last twenty
thirty years, it's been SEC Big ten. And you wonder,
leaning on what coach O said, right n I L
He's like, oh, now they just they go through the
front going round than the back door. Right when you
heard that sound bite, they's cheating, man, it's ludicrous. And
now they're going to nine conference games and they're like, well,
we're the best conference, we produce the NFL, we have
all the resources. Yeah, because you cheated.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I will say I do think that the
recruiting ground is a lot more fertile when you get
to certain areas of the country. But I'm not going
to hear and pretend like people weren't paying people. I know,
again was part of it, but I think it's a
common misconception that it was only a certain amount of
teams and there's other ways to pay people. The amount
of jobs that parents got of players at places is crazy.
So look, at the end of the day, it's like
holding on the offensive line. If you ain't cheating, you
ain't trying. I mean, it's just when everybody else is.
I mean, we can sit here and complain about it,
but I mean again, when you look at viewership, you
look at stadium size. You look at the money that's
pumped into it. A lot of times people wouldn't get
punished because they make a lot of money for the sport.
And you can like that, you cannot like it. That's
why I love that now everybody can get paid right,
And to be honest with you, it actually for the
top tier players they lost money because if you took
five official visits and got one hundred thousand from each
school you went to and you didn't go to their school,
well they couldn't call the NCAA or the cops and
be like, well this guy is one hundred grand. You
just got to pocket it. So look, I agree with you.
The SEC paid ties, the Big ten paid guys, A
lot of people paid guys. It's just the nature of
the beats. But now we got a little bit better system.
It's not great because they let it out win no rules,
but it is better than.
Speaker 2: What we have. Yeah, but they don't want those cross
conference data points anymore. That's the thing. They don't want those.
They don't want those, and they're going to just leverage
that brand ad con you over for the last thirty
years they built through.
Speaker 1: Well, you think a lot of that has to do
with the playoffs, Like I think a lot of that
has to do with the playoff and the expansion of
the playoff.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, you had five teams in the SEC.
Teams in the SEC this year built off their brands.
Speaker 1: But there's two group of fives. Like again, there's two
group of fives. It's hard to argue on one hand
when you let two of the little guys in last
year Boise State was the top four team. You gotta buy.
I watched Cincinnati make a fourteen playoff, like I'm sick
of the oh the little guy never cutches a break's
a big bad SEC. I'm watching James Madison in Twulane
make a twelve team playoff in college football. So I
want christ here as.
Speaker 2: Over that, no doubt, best way to support you, Jake,
What you do, how you do, because I know you
got a hard out. You got to get out of here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, look, YouTube's the best way. We got a
big announcement coming to with a cranting company CRAI and
in company and to the BYU Fansvan'll y'all got the
short end of the stick. But I'm telling you got
a great guy leading the program and I'm excited for
Utah as well. And what a career by coach winning.
Speaker 2: Him, no doubt about it. Hey, appreciate you Jake. Always
a pleasure, always a blessing talking ball with you. Man.
Have a great rest of your day.
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, been anytime, buddy. Thank you guys.
Speaker 2: Great content is always there from j Crane, Crane and co.
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