Speaker 1: Welcome to thrilling Threads. I want you to do something
for me. Right at the start here, just ask yourself
a question. Okay, have you ever had one of those nights?
It's you know, two, maybe three in the morning, the
whole house is silent, You're lying in bed just staring
up at the ceiling. Yeah, and you are just wide awake.
Speaker 2: Ugh, yes, all the time. The classic tired but wired feeling.
Speaker 1: Exactly tired but wired. Your body is exhausted, but your
brain just will not shut down. And you do the math. Right.
You look at the clock, you think, okay, I have
to be up at seven, and you calculate just how
a little sleep you're going to get.
Speaker 2: And how miserable the next day is going to be. Yeah.
I think I think everyone knows that feeling.
Speaker 1: We all do, and we blame it on the usual things.
Too much coffee, stress from work, looking at our phones,
too late. But what if it's none of those things?
Speaker 2: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: I mean? What if that feeling of being out of
sink of your body fighting the clock isn't a bug?
What if it's not insomnia? Okay, what if it's a feature.
What if your body is actually tuned to the rhythm
of planet Earth at all.
Speaker 2: Now that that is a fascinating idea because we always
treat that as a kind of, you know, a medical
problem to be solved.
Speaker 1: Right, we see it as a malfunction. But what if
your internal clock is running perfectly, it's just it's set
for a different planet. What if it's set for Mars?
Speaker 2: And that right there is where this whole story begins.
It sounds like the opening to a sci fi movie.
But when you start to look at the research we've
got laid out here today, I mean, it's not just speculation,
not at all.
Speaker 1: There is a smoking gun, as some scientists call it,
buried deep in our own biology, specifically in our circadian rhythms.
We are absolutely going to unpack that later, and I
promise you it will make you question.
Speaker 2: Everything they really do.
Speaker 1: But that's just the start. Today on Thrilling Threads, we
are diving into a collection of sources that suggest NASA,
the agency we all think we know, you know, the rockets,
the astronauts, the smiling faces and mission control, is not
what it seems.
Speaker 2: Not even close. The theory, based on the material we're
looking at, is that NASA is essentially a public relations front,
a cover story, a very elaborate, very expensive cover for
a much deeper, much more secret space program, one that
has deep, deep ties to ancient history, to occult rituals,
and potentially to our own extraterrestrial origins.
Speaker 1: So we're not just talking about rovers and rocks today.
We are exploring a theory that NASA's true core mission
was never really about exploration. It was about retrieval, retrieval
of what exactly evidence artifacts. The goal, according to these sources,
was to get to the Moon and to Mars to
recover proof, proof of a prior advanced civilization, the same
beings the ancient Sumerians and Egyptians called their gods.
Speaker 2: And to prove that we are in fact their descendants exactly.
Speaker 1: It completely reframes the entire space race, doesn't it. We
weren't just racing the Soviets to plant a flag, We
were racing them to get to the ruins of our
ancestors first.
Speaker 2: It covers everything from well varn Her von Braun's secret
research in the fifties into exotic physics, all the way
to interpreting the fallen angels from the Bible.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're going to pull on some threads today
that might just unravel the official history of humanity. Let's
start with what we think we know about Mars, because
there's this huge disconnect between the public story and what
some insiders claim is really happening.
Speaker 2: The tale of two space programs.
Speaker 1: That's the one. Let's talk about the public face first,
the one we all see on the news. I'm talking
about the Mars Science Laboratory, the Curiosity rover.
Speaker 2: Launch back in twenty eleven, November twenty sixth to be exact,
from Cape Canaveral. And look, you can't deny it's an
incredible piece of engineering.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. It's a nuclear powered, car sized mobile lab
that landed on another planet using a frickin' skycrane. The
tech is amazing. But what's the mission.
Speaker 2: The official mission is geology. It's there to analyze soil
and rocks, look for the chemical building blocks of life,
and confirm that Mars was once a.
Speaker 1: Habitable planet, which we now know it was. They've confirmed
it had a thick atmosphere, lakes, maybe even oceans. It
was a kinder, gentler world. As one of those scientists.
Speaker 2: Put it, it was essentially another Earth.
Speaker 1: Right. But here's where the public narrative starts to feel
a bit off. Let's talk about the speed of this
amazing rover.
Speaker 2: It's not fast.
Speaker 1: Not fast as an understatement, the source material points out
it can cover about the length of a football field
in one hour, which.
Speaker 2: To be fair, is much faster than the older rovers
like Sojourner or Spirit.
Speaker 1: Sure it's an improvement, yeah, but think about the scale here.
We're talking about exploring an entire planet, a whole world,
and our plan is to do it with a remote
controlled car moving ato point zero nine miles per hour.
Speaker 2: It does seem incredibly inefficient when you put it like that.
Speaker 1: It's like being asked to find a single specific grain
of sand on a beach the sides of Africa, but
you're only allowed to look at it through a drinking straw.
Speaker 2: The pace is glacial, and that's exactly where this two
Space programs theory really takes root, because while we the
public are watching this slow motion crawl and US TV
and cheering for every inch at.
Speaker 1: Moves, the sources suggest there's something else going on, something
happening in the shadows that makes curiosity look like a
child's toy.
Speaker 2: And this brings us to Werner von Braun, the.
Speaker 1: Father of the Saturn V rocket, the Nazi scientist who
became the face of the American space program.
Speaker 2: The very same Now everyone knows them for the huge,
powerful chemical rockets that got us to the Moon. That's
his public legacy. But what's often left out of the
history books is the kind of physics he was exploring
before Apollo, back in the nineteen fifties.
Speaker 1: This is the field dynamic stuff, right.
Speaker 2: Exactly, field propulsion dynamics or electrogravitics. Before NASA went all
in on the brute force method of chemical rockets, there
was serious research into manipulating gravity itself.
Speaker 1: Okay, break that down for me. What's the difference. A
chemical rocket is basically a controlled explosion.
Speaker 2: That's a perfect way to put it. It's Newton's third law. Ah,
for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. You
throw a massive amount of hot gas out of the
back at incredible speed, and that pushes the rocket it forward.
It's loud, it's violent, it's inefficient.
Speaker 1: You're basically riding a bomb.
Speaker 2: You are. But field dynamics is completely different. Imagine, instead
of pushing against the air or space, you could manipulate
the fabric of space time itself, create a sort of
gravity wave in front of your ship that you continuously
fall into.
Speaker 1: So you're not fighting gravity, you're using it. You're surfing
on it.
Speaker 2: You're surfing. That's it. No violent explosions, no g forces,
just a silent, rapid acceleration. The research in the fifties
suggested this was possible. They believe we were on the
verge of creating craft, what we would call flying saucers,
that could get to the Moon in hours, not days,
mars and weeks not months.
Speaker 1: So what happened? Why do we abandon that for you know,
giant metal tubes full of explosive liquid. It doesn't make
any sense. If the military has a better, faster, stealthier
way to travel, they don't just forget about it.
Speaker 2: And that's the core of the theory. We didn't abandon it.
Speaker 1: The program went black, It went completely secret.
Speaker 2: It was taken away from the public eye and developed
in secret by military contractors and intelligence agencies. This became
the secret Space Program. So while public NASA continued with
the slow, dangerous but very visible spectacle of rockets.
Speaker 1: The real program was developing a fleet of anti gravity ships.
Speaker 2: A breakaway civilization, as some have called it, a segment
of humanity that has technology far beyond what the rest
of us can even imagine.
Speaker 1: Wow, And the implication there is staggering. If that's true,
it means we might already have bases on the Moon,
we might have had people on Mars for decades.
Speaker 2: And the rovers, like curiosity, they're a distraction. They're a
carefully managed drip feet of information to keep the public interested,
to maintain the budget, but to never ever reveeal the
true extent of our presence out there.
Speaker 1: It even changes the whole conversation about terraforming Mars, doesn't it.
Scientists talk about it like it's a dream for hundreds
of years from now.
Speaker 2: But if you have access to this kind of energy
and propulsion, maybe it's not a dream. Maybe it's a
project that's already underway.
Speaker 1: Okay, But this brings up the big question, why why
all the secrecy? The national security argument only goes so far.
Why not share this incredible technology?
Speaker 2: And to answer that you have to go back to
the very beginning of NASA. There's this huge public misconception
that it's a civilian science agency, you know, just a
bunch of Peaceful.
Speaker 1: Explorers Starfleet image.
Speaker 2: Right, but it's not true. NASA was created in nineteen
fifty eight by the National Aeronautics and Space Act, signed
by President Eisenhower, and it was a direct response to Sputnik.
It was a Cold War.
Speaker 1: Creation, and it was part of the defense structure, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: Deeply If you read the Act itself, there's a secrecy
clause section two oh five. It explicitly gives the administrator
of a NASA the power to classify any information or
discovery that could be a matter of national security.
Speaker 1: So if curiosity turns a corner tomorrow and finds I
don't know a pyramid m, they are legally required.
Speaker 2: Not to tell us if they decide it's too sensitive. Yes,
and that leads us directly to the Brookings Report.
Speaker 1: I've heard this mention in conspiracy circles for years, but
it's a real document.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's absolutely real. In nineteen sixty, NASA commission the
Brookings Institution, a major think tank, to study the implications
of peaceful space activities for human affairs.
Speaker 1: Sounds innocent enough.
Speaker 2: It does, but very deep inside that report was a
section that addressed a very specific scenario what happens if
we find proof of extraterrestrial life?
Speaker 1: What was the recommendation, throw a big welcome party.
Speaker 2: The exact opposite. The conclusion was blunt. It said, if
you find artifacts on the moon, on Mars, or if
you make contact with the superior alien intelligence, do not tell.
Speaker 1: The public to hide it.
Speaker 2: Why the predicted outcome was the complete and utter collapse
of society.
Speaker 1: Collapse that seems a bit dramatic.
Speaker 2: Think about it from their perspective in nineteen sixty What
happens to every major religion on Earth if we discover
we weren't created by a divine being, but maybe by
ancient scientists from a world What happens to our political structures,
our sense of self?
Speaker 1: The whole framework of human civilization would crumble.
Speaker 2: They believed it would. They argued that humanity just couldn't
handle the truth. So the official policy from day one
was one of denial and secrecy.
Speaker 1: But there's another layer to the secrecy, isn't there? The
sources were looking at suggest it wasn't just about bureaucratic caution.
It was about something else, something more esoteric.
Speaker 2: This is where we get into the secret societies, specifically freemasonry.
Speaker 1: And we're not talking about the guys who run the
local fish rye.
Speaker 2: No, we are talking about the highest levels. The sources
point to key figures in early NASA James Webb, the
administrator during the Apollo era, Kenneth Kleintneck, who is the
head of the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs.
Speaker 1: These were the top guys.
Speaker 2: They were the top guys, and they were both thirty
third degree Scottish Rite freemasons.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that number thirty third degree, I've heard it
thrown around. What does it actually mean. Is it just
like a seniority thing.
Speaker 2: It is the highest honorary degree you can achieve in
the Scottish Rite. It's the inner circle and at that level.
The source material argues the beliefs are deeply connected to
the ancient mystery schools of Egypt.
Speaker 1: And what are those beliefs.
Speaker 2: The core esoteric belief is that they are the inheritors
of ancient knowledge passed down from the Egyptian gods Isis, Osiris, Horus.
Speaker 1: But if we're following the ancient astronaut theory, those weren't.
Speaker 2: Gods, they were extraterrestrials. So now put it all together.
You are a thirty third degree Mason. You believe your
sacred ancestors were beings from the stars, and you are
now in charge of a program that can literally take
you to the stars.
Speaker 1: Your motivation isn't just science or politics.
Speaker 2: It's a spiritual quest, a pilgrimage. You are trying to
go home to reconnect with your gods.
Speaker 1: Suddenly all the weird symbolism starts to make a bit
more sense. The number thirty three keeps popping up in
NASA's history, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: It's everywhere once you start looking for it. The very
first landing strip at Cape Kannap Runway three to three,
the main and only launchpad at the White Sands Missile
Range where they tested so much at this tech launch
pat thirty three.
Speaker 1: That feels intentional. I mean, one could be a coincidence,
but two, that starts to look like a signature.
Speaker 2: It looks like a ritualistic marker, a way of stamping
their work with a sacred number.
Speaker 1: And you can't talk about the occult origins of the
space program without talking about Jack Parsons.
Speaker 2: Jack Parsons is one of the most brilliant and bizarre
figures of the twentieth century. He was one of the
key founders of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory or JPL.
Speaker 1: JPL the people who build and run the Mars rovers today,
the super serious scientists.
Speaker 2: The most serious. Parsons was a genius rocket chemist. He
basically invented the solid rocket fuel that made the whole
enterprise possible. We literally wouldn't have gotten off the ground
without his work.
Speaker 1: But his day job was only half the story.
Speaker 2: Not even in his private life. He was a devout
follower of the occultist Aleister Crowley.
Speaker 1: The Great b six sixty six, the very same.
Speaker 2: And Parsons wasn't just reading Carly's books. He was a
practicing magician. He and l Ron Hubbard, the founder scientology,
were conducting these intense magical rituals in the Mohave Desert
Sex Magic, wasn't it, Yes, they called it the Babylon Working.
They were trying to, in their words, manifest a goddess
on Earth, to open a portal to another dimension.
Speaker 1: So the man whose science was designed to physically break
through the heavens was also using magic to try and
tear a hole in reality.
Speaker 2: For him, they were the same thing. Science and magic
were just two different tools for achieving the same goal,
storming the gates of Heaven. It shows the mindset of
the people at the very foundation of this program, which
brings us to the Moon.
Speaker 1: Apollo eleven, the pinnacle of the public space program.
Speaker 2: July twentieth, nineteen sixty nine. A billion people watched it live.
It was a unifying moment for the entire planet.
Speaker 1: But think about the place they landed. The Moon is
not a welcoming place.
Speaker 2: It is the most hostile environment imaginable. The temperature swings
are insane, from over two hundred and fifty degrees fahrenheit
in the sun to minus two hundred and forty in
the shade. There's no air, deadly radiation, and the gravity
is only one sixth of Earth's.
Speaker 1: The astronauts called it magnificent desolation, a mythological landscape. But
there's a theory that the Moon isn't just some random
dead rock, that it's two perfect perfect tax Well, for starters,
there's the eclipse. The Moon is exactly the right size
and at exactly the right distance from Earth to perfectly
block out the Sun. The statistical odds of that happening
by chance are astronomical.
Speaker 2: A massive coincidence, a massive one.
Speaker 1: But there's more. The Moon acts as a stabilizer for Earth.
Our planet has a natural wabble on its axis, and
without the Moon's gravity to keep it steady, that wabble
would be extreme.
Speaker 2: The source calls it a drunken sailor exactly.
Speaker 1: We wouldn't have stable seasons, the climate would be wildly chaotic.
It's very unlikely that complex life, let alone intelligent life,
could have evolved here without the Moon holding us steady.
Speaker 2: So either we won the cosmic lottery, an unbelievable stroke
of luck.
Speaker 1: Or it's not luck, or the Moon was put there
by design a watchtower, a watchtower, or maybe a base,
an observation post. And this ties back into the secret
space program. If you have this advanced anti gravity fleet,
where do you put your main base of operations.
Speaker 2: The Moon is perfect, it's close, and because it's tidally
locked one side, the dark side, is permanently hidden from Earth.
Speaker 1: You could build an entire civilization on the far side
of the Moon and we would never know it. It's
the ultimate hiding spot.
Speaker 2: And then after a few missions, the public program just
stopped going.
Speaker 1: That's the part that always gets me we accomplished the
single greatest feat in human history, and then we just
abandoned it for fifty years. We have more computing power
in our phones than they had in the entire Apollo program,
but we haven't.
Speaker 2: Been back unless, of course, we never left the public
program ended and the secret program moved in permanently.
Speaker 1: A truly chilling thought. But while all this might have
been happening in secret, we've also been publicly trying to
find others out there. We've been listening with.
Speaker 2: SETI, the Search for Extraterrestrial intelligence. But SETI is a
passive search. It's like putting a cup against the wall
of the universe and just listening.
Speaker 1: And the scale of the search is immense. The sources say,
what we've scanned so far is equivalent to taking one
glass of water out of all the Earth's oceans and
checking it for fish.
Speaker 2: We barely even started.
Speaker 1: But they did hear something once, didn't they The famous
Wow signal they did.
Speaker 2: August fifteenth, nineteen seventy seven, an astronomer named doctor Jerry
Eamon was reviewing data from the Big Year Radio telescope
in Ohio. He saw a signal that was so powerful,
so clear, and so obviously artificial that he circled it
on the print out and just wrote wow in the margin.
Speaker 1: And it came from the Sagittarius constellation. Right. Yeah, lasted
for seventy two seconds.
Speaker 2: And it was at a very specific frequency, the hydrogen line,
which is the exact frequency scientists have always predicted an
intelligent species would use to broadcast a signal. It was
a perfect hello, but it never came again, never repeated.
It was a one time cosmic voicemail.
Speaker 1: And even if SETI did find a clear repeating signal today,
what's the protocol?
Speaker 2: The protocol secrecy. It goes right back to Brookings. The
discovery would be confirmed in secret, passed up the chain
of command to the government, and they would decide if
and when the public gets to know.
Speaker 1: So we're not just listening. We've also been shouting into
the jungle ourselves. We sent out messages.
Speaker 2: The Pioneer plaques and the Voyager Golden Records.
Speaker 1: Right. The Pioneer plaques in seventy two had the drawings
of the nude man and woman on them, which was
a bit controversial at the time.
Speaker 2: It was Carl Sagan and Frank Drake designed it. They
wanted to show what we look like where we are.
They included a map using pulsars as landmarks to pinpoint
our solar system.
Speaker 1: Which some people like Stephen Hawking, later said was an
incredibly dangerous idea, basically leaving a map to your front
door for any potential predators a fair point.
Speaker 2: But then came the voyager probes in nineteen seventy seven,
and on them the Golden Record.
Speaker 1: A gold plated copper phonograph record, basically humanity's mixtape for the.
Speaker 2: Cosmos, designed to last for a billion years. It has
sounds of Earth on it, wind, rain, whales, a mother's kiss.
It has music from back to Chuck Berry's Johnny B. Good.
Speaker 1: I love that, the idea of Chuck Berry echoing through
interstellar space.
Speaker 2: But the most important part, according to these sources, was
the greetings. There were spoken greetings in fifty five different languages.
Speaker 1: And this is where we find another one of those
smoking guns, isn't it?
Speaker 2: This is a big one because among the fifty five languages, English, French, Mandarin,
all the ones you'd expect, they included one very specific,
very unusual language, Samaria. Samaran, a language that has been
dead for over four thousand years. No one speaks it.
It exists only on ancient clay tablets.
Speaker 1: So why why would you put a greeting in a
dead language on a message to aliens? It makes no sense.
Speaker 2: It makes no sense unless you believe the aliens already.
Speaker 1: Know that language, unless you believe they were here before exactly.
Speaker 2: This connects directly to the work of Zakaria Sitchin, who
translated those Sumerian tablets. He claimed they were a literal
history of contact with beings called the Anunnaki.
Speaker 1: Who came from a planet called Nibiru.
Speaker 2: Correct. According to Sitchin, the Onunaki came to Earth, interacted
with the Sumerians, taught them civilization, and gave them their
languid So by putting a Sumerian greeting on that record.
Speaker 1: NASA wasn't just sending a random message. They were sending
a message back to a specific group. They were saying, hello,
we remember you.
Speaker 2: It implies a level of knowledge within NASA that is
far beyond what they've ever admitted publicly.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about these Onunaki. Sitchin's theory is that
they're from this planet Nibiru, which has a really long elliptical.
Speaker 2: Orbit, a very long orbit, somewhere between thirty four hundred
and thirty six hundred years. It swings way out past
Neptune and then comes back in through the inner Solar System.
Speaker 1: And where does Mars fit into this whole story?
Speaker 2: Mars, arding to Sitchens translations, was their way station, their
forward operating base. Think of it like an airport hub.
If you're traveling a long distance from the outer Solar
System to Earth, Mars is the perfect place to stop.
Lower gravity makes taking off and landing easier, you can refuel, resupply.
Speaker 1: So they would come from Deberu, set up shop on Mars,
and then shuttle down to Earth to conduct their business.
Speaker 2: Which was, according to the tablets, to mine for gold
and eventually to genetically engineer a worker race.
Speaker 1: Now Sitchen made a projection, didn't he based on that
three six hundred year orbit? When are they do back?
Speaker 2: The next passive Neberu through our part of the Solar
system is projected for some time around the year twenty nine.
Speaker 1: Hundred, so we've got a little bit of time to
get our house in order.
Speaker 2: A few centuries. But the question the source material poses
is will they be happy with what we've done with
the place. If they see themselves as our creators, our parents,
how will they judge us?
Speaker 1: You kids have really wrecked the car on.
Speaker 2: A planetary scale. And this is why proponents of theory
expect to find more than just microbes on Mars. If
it was a waste station for the Anonachi, there should
be ruins, there should be pyramids, structures, evidence of their presence.
Speaker 1: And this leads us to what I think is the
most mind blowing part of this entire deep dive, the
idea that well that we are the evidence that we
are the Martians.
Speaker 2: This is where the biology becomes undeniable for the believers.
We talked about at the start, the circadian rhythm.
Speaker 1: Let's really break this down because everyone needs to understand this.
Scientists have done these isolation experiments for decades. They put
people in deep caves or in sealed bunkers with no windows,
no clocks.
Speaker 2: Total isolation from all external timeques, no sunrise, no sunset.
Your body is left completely on its own to keep time.
Speaker 1: And you'd think, since we evolve done this planet, that
our internal clock would be hardwired to exactly twenty four hours.
Speaker 2: It should be, but it's not. Every single time they
do these experiments, the human body's free running clock drifts,
and it always settles on a day that is approximately
twenty four hours and forty minutes long, almost twenty four
point nine hours.
Speaker 1: Twenty four point nine.
Speaker 2: Hours a very specific number.
Speaker 1: So how long is a day on Mars a.
Speaker 2: Martian day, which they call a saul is twenty four
hours and thirty nine minutes.
Speaker 1: It's a perfect match. It is a.
Speaker 2: Perfect match to many. This is the single most compelling
piece of evidence that we did not originate on this planet.
Speaker 1: The theory, then, is that life began on Mars. Mars
was the first Earth. It was blue and green and alive,
and our ancestors evolved there.
Speaker 2: And then some great catastrophe happened. A solar flare stripped
its atmosphere, a planetary war, we don't know, but the
planet died and the survivors, our ancestors, fled to the
nearest habitable world Earth.
Speaker 1: We are a colony of refugees.
Speaker 2: We are Martians with amnesia.
Speaker 1: And it suddenly explained so many things. Why does so
many humans have chronic back pain? Maybe because our skeletons
evolved for a world with one third the gravity why
do we get sunburned so easily? You our skin wasn't
designed for a planet this close to the Sun.
Speaker 2: It recontextualizes all of our supposed biological flaws. They aren't flaws,
they're just evidence that we're living in the wrong environment.
Speaker 1: And look what happens when we go back into a
low gravity environment, like the astronauts on the space station.
Speaker 2: Their bodies immediately start to change. Their spines decompress, and
they grow taller, sometimes by two or three inches.
Speaker 1: So let's project that forward. Imagine a generation of humans
born and raised on Mars. What would they look like?
Over time?
Speaker 2: Evolution would take over in a lower gravity You wouldn't
need a heavy, robust skeleton. You'd become taller, more slender.
Speaker 1: Spindley, even tallen thin.
Speaker 2: Okay, Mars is also much dimmer than Earth. It's further
from the Sun, so to absorb more light, your eyes
would likely evolve to become much larger. Hey, guys, and
with less direct UV radiation and a different atmosphere, your
skin would probably be very pale. So what do you have.
Speaker 1: Tall, skinny, pale beings with huge dark eyes. You're describing
the classic gray alien.
Speaker 2: Or you're describing a fallen angel.
Speaker 1: Whoa okay, connect that for me because I'm picturing angels
with white robes and feathery wings.
Speaker 2: That's the modern, sanitized version. But if you go back
to the older texts, like the non canonical Book of Enoch,
it describes the Watchers, the angels who descend it to Earth.
They are described as being incredibly tall giants, striking to
look upon with huge, mesmerizing eyes. There's no mention of wings.
Speaker 1: They sound like space adapted humans.
Speaker 2: The theory is that's exactly what they were. They weren't
supernatural beings from Heaven. They were our ancient ancestors from
Mars returning to Earth.
Speaker 1: And there's even a reference in Dante's Paradiso, isn't there
from centuries ago?
Speaker 2: Yes, Dante describes his journey through the heavens and when
he reaches the fifth heaven, he explicitly identifies it as Mars,
the realm of the warrior angels. The connection between angels
and Mars has been part of our subconscious, our mythology
for a very long time.
Speaker 1: It's all just a misunderstood history of our own origins.
So if we go back to Mars, we're not just exploring.
We're going home, and we might find things they left behind,
like the monolith.
Speaker 2: The Phobos monolith, a very specific and very strange object.
Speaker 1: Vobos is one of Bars's two tiny moons.
Speaker 2: It's more of a captured asteroid, really a lumpy, potato
shaped rock. But in nineteen ninety eight the Mars Global
Surveyor took a high resolution photo of its surface, and
on that surface there is a large rectangular object sticking
straight up, casting a long black shadow.
Speaker 1: It looks completely artificial. It looks like the monolith from
two thousand and one A Space Odyssey.
Speaker 2: It really does, and it's not just a fringe idea.
Buzz Aldrin, the second man to walk on the Moon,
has spoken about it publicly.
Speaker 1: What did he say?
Speaker 2: He said, and I'm paraphrasing, that there is a monolith
on Phobos, and when people find out about it, they're
going to ask who put it there. He treated it
as a known artificial object.
Speaker 1: So what is it a monument?
Speaker 2: The source material suggests it's a piece of technology, and
it connects it directly to the obelisks we find here
on Earth, in Egypt and elsewhere.
Speaker 1: I would just assume those are giants stone decorations.
Speaker 2: That's the textbook answer. But let's look at what they're
made of. They are carved from single massive pieces of granite,
and granite is full of quartz.
Speaker 1: Crystal in quartz. Yeah, that's piece of electric right exactly.
Speaker 2: Piso Electricity means if you apply pressure or vibration to
a quartz crystal, it generates an electric charge, and it
works in reverse. Apply a charge and it vibrates at
a precise frequency. It's a transducer. It turns mechanical energy
into electrical energy, and vice versa.
Speaker 1: So an obelisk is in this statue, it's a giant antenna.
Speaker 2: That's the theory that the obelisks and other megalithic sites
like Stonehenge and Avebury were components in a global wireless
energy grid.
Speaker 1: A planetary power system, and maybe.
Speaker 2: More than just power. The source talks about a geometry
of consciousness, the idea that these sites placed on key
energy lines of the planet could broadcast frequencies that would
elevate human awareness.
Speaker 1: Oh, wireless internet for the soul.
Speaker 2: You could put it that way. And now the final step.
If the phobost monolith is made of the same material
and is part of the same design.
Speaker 1: Then the grid wasn't just global, it was interplanetary.
Speaker 2: A unified energy and consciousness grid connecting Mars and Earth.
And maybe we've been cut off from it for thousands of.
Speaker 1: Years, And our entire space program, whether public or secret,
is an unconscious drive to go back and plug the
thing back in.
Speaker 2: And look who's leading that drive. Now. It's not just
governments anymore, it's private billionaires. Elon Musk is obsessed with
dying on Mars.
Speaker 1: He calls it making humanity a multiplanetary species.
Speaker 2: But maybe he's just an instrument of that ancient Martian
DNA inside him, calling him home without him even realizing why.
Speaker 1: So if this is all true, when we finally get
back there in force, we won't just find red dust.
We'll find the proof, the ruins, the technology.
Speaker 2: But there's what the Source calls the big whoop factor.
If NASA announced tomorrow they've found fossilized bacteria on Mars,
most people would say, huh, that's neat and go back
to their lives.
Speaker 1: Right, it doesn't really change anything for the average person.
Speaker 2: But what if they announced they found a humanoid statue
or ruined building. That changes everything. It validates every myth,
every secret society belief, and it proves we are not alone.
In fact, we've never been alone.
Speaker 1: And that's why they would hide it. That's the Brookies
Report in action, because if we knew our true heritage,
if we knew we were the descendants of these star people.
Speaker 2: We might realize we don't need the current systems of control.
We might realize our own potential. And to the powers
that be, that is the most dangerous idea in the universe.
Speaker 1: It is an absolutely incredible, sprawling narrative. It connects our
biology to our mythology, secret societies, to deep space exploration.
Speaker 2: But the central idea is so powerful that we are
a species with amnesia, stumbling around, looking up at the
stars and feeling a sense of longing we can't quite explain.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not a desire to explore. Maybe it's just
that we're homesick.
Speaker 2: A very profound possibility.
Speaker 1: So I want to end by asking you, the listener,
a direct question, based on everything we've talked about, the secrecy,
the Brookings Report, the potential for a hidden.
Speaker 2: History, ask yourself this, Honestly.
Speaker 1: If the news broke tomorrow morning that a base had
been found on the dark side of the moon, or
that the face on Mars was confirmed to be an
artificial structure. How would you really feel?
Speaker 2: Would you be excited, would you be scared or would
you feel cheated? Would you feel like you've been living
your whole life inside a carefully constructed cage?
Speaker 1: And tonight, if you find yourself awake at three am
staring at the ceiling, don't be frustrated with your body.
Speaker 2: Don't blame the coffee.
Speaker 1: Just consider for a moment that maybe you're not an insomniac.
Maybe you're just running on Mars time. Maybe that's your
Martian DNA calling you home.
Speaker 2: Let us know what you think in the comments. Is
this all just a wild sci fi story or is
there something more to it?
Speaker 1: This has been thrilling Threads. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 2: Until next time,