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<v Speaker 1>You know a world of deceit, Telling the truth is

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<v Speaker 1>a revolutionary act. It's the David Knight Show. As the

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<v Speaker 1>clock strikes thirteen, it's Friday, the twenty seventh of February.

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<v Speaker 1>You're of our Lord, twenty twenty six. Well, today we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a couple of interviews. I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to find really informative. We have one person who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to share his cancer story. He has now fifty

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<v Speaker 1>two years, pass the point they said he'd be dead.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're going to find it very enlightening, very hopeful.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, he's got an acronym for

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<v Speaker 1>what he does, hope helping other people escape escape the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of medieval treatment that we have in the cancer community.

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<v Speaker 1>That's here. But we're also going to be talking about

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<v Speaker 1>another thing that a lot of people will dismiss as medieval.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to finish up what I began yesterday in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of talking about the satanic singularity that we see

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<v Speaker 1>coming towards us. And of course it's all the different

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<v Speaker 1>aspects of the Epstein pedophile satanic ritual child abuse that's there,

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<v Speaker 1>the Pharmacheea of the sorcery, the push towards using these

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<v Speaker 1>hallucinogenic drugs that have always been throughout millennia have been

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<v Speaker 1>used as a way to contact your cult. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course the way the CIA has used this and artichoke

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<v Speaker 1>and mk ultra and many other things. There's all these

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<v Speaker 1>different threads seem to be coming together, and Trump administration

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be ready to do this through so called disclosure. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's begin with that. I was talking about this yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>and I ran out of time, and there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more that I really wanted to say, didn't get a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to cover it. And I had just started talking

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<v Speaker 1>about DMT, which, in case you don't know what that is,

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that has been used for a very long

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<v Speaker 1>time in the Amazon, and they have used it for

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<v Speaker 1>psychedelic rituals part of religions there, and this is something

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<v Speaker 1>that we have seen used for thousands of years. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible refers to that as pharmakia, translated as sorcery.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to refer to that all the time as

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<v Speaker 1>big Pharma Pharmakia because talked about how the biggest men

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<v Speaker 1>on earth and in terms of money and importance and

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<v Speaker 1>things like that, would not repent of their murders and

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<v Speaker 1>other things, and I think it also ties into that.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is quite literally what was being talked about

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<v Speaker 1>in the Bible, and now it is being there's an

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<v Speaker 1>attempt to mainstream it. It's an attempt that is coming

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<v Speaker 1>multiple places from government officials and politicians. It's not just

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<v Speaker 1>a CIA using it for their own occultic program. So

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<v Speaker 1>these are politicians that are using it now, and just

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<v Speaker 1>to give you an idea of DMT, they're now pushing

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<v Speaker 1>it as a promising therapy for depression. And you've got

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<v Speaker 1>some pharmaceutical companies that are getting on board to make

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money out of it. If you look

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<v Speaker 1>it up, you will find a lot of people talking

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<v Speaker 1>about mechanical elves and other beings that they come in

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<v Speaker 1>contact with when they take DMT. And I know someone

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<v Speaker 1>who told me that he took it and he said

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<v Speaker 1>it's the scariest thing he ever had happened to him

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<v Speaker 1>in his life, and he gets really wide eyed when

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<v Speaker 1>he starts to talk about it. There are common descriptions

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<v Speaker 1>of what people come across. Here's an example of this,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a book that's written by somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>actually likes it and is pushing it. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people who are very excited about They even call

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<v Speaker 1>themselves on them psychonots and saying that they want they're

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<v Speaker 1>like astronauts who are traveling but into a different dimension,

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<v Speaker 1>and they want to share their experiences with these beings

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<v Speaker 1>that they come in contact with. And so here's this

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<v Speaker 1>one book, The Illustrated Field Guide to DMT Entities, machine Els, tricksters,

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<v Speaker 1>teachers and other inter dimensional beings. And there's a quote

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<v Speaker 1>from author of another book that's called DMT The Spirit Molecule,

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Straussman, who is the author of that is an MD.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, the psychedelic version of fantastic beasts and where

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<v Speaker 1>to find them. We know where to find them, and

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<v Speaker 1>now we know what to expect. New species will be discovered.

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<v Speaker 1>Others may die out, but this compendium of DMT beings

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<v Speaker 1>provides a most exhaustive snapshot of our days varieties. Another

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<v Speaker 1>review from the author of another book about the same

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<v Speaker 1>type of thing, The Visionary of the Mysterious Origins of

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<v Speaker 1>Human Consciousness. He writes, the DMT experience is fundamentally about

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<v Speaker 1>exploring and traveling to unknown or forgotten realms, realms that

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<v Speaker 1>are unutterably strange and yet strangely familiar. These realms are

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<v Speaker 1>inhabited by intelligent beings with much to teach. Like any

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<v Speaker 1>challenging and perhaps even perilous journey, it's important to prepare

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<v Speaker 1>and to be willing to learn from the experiences and

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<v Speaker 1>the hard won knowledge of others. Another review, DMT is

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating for many reasons, but not the least because it

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<v Speaker 1>seems to provide ready access to hyperdimensional realm populated by

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<v Speaker 1>a vast collection of non human, intelligent, apparently independent entities.

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<v Speaker 1>Often these entities seem to have a message or many

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<v Speaker 1>messages for our specie or an individual psychoonot that are

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<v Speaker 1>weighted with portent. They definitely seem to have a classification

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<v Speaker 1>system and characteristics that are familiar to many psychedelic voyagers.

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<v Speaker 1>And then one more, I'll give you here the Demonic,

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<v Speaker 1>from the demonic to the divine. This is the most beautiful, comprehensive,

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<v Speaker 1>and I dare say, indispensable guide to the resident fauna

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<v Speaker 1>of the DMT realm. You won't want to venture into

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<v Speaker 1>the hy hyperdimensional hinter lens without this field guide in

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<v Speaker 1>your back pocket. I imagine when somebody's on a trip

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<v Speaker 1>of this kind of stuff, you're not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>pulling on a book to read it. This guy is

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<v Speaker 1>the author of Alien information Theory and reality switch Technologies,

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<v Speaker 1>The Best Beastiary or Hyperspace Denizens so far. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a whole culture that has come up around this,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is ancient. It's been happening for thousands of years,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet in our lifetime, since World War Two, we've

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<v Speaker 1>had this fable of UFOs that has taken in place.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the fable folks, and yet they want to

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<v Speaker 1>present that as a scientific reality. That is what is

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<v Speaker 1>before us, and we need to get a handle on

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<v Speaker 1>the reference points. This is one of that. You know, generally,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say I see eye to eye pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>on politics with David Ike, but this is where we

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<v Speaker 1>part weighs because what he does is he looks at

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<v Speaker 1>it in the same way that Arthur C. Clark did

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the film that I talked about yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>Childhood's End, where he posits in his science fiction he

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<v Speaker 1>has a group of aliens actually coming from a planet

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<v Speaker 1>of fire, and they look exactly like all the medieval

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<v Speaker 1>depictions of Satan or demons, complete with the bathomet horns

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<v Speaker 1>and the clothed hoofs and all the rest of the stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and red skin all the rest of that. And so

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<v Speaker 1>what he's doing is he's saying, well, it was space

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<v Speaker 1>aliens all along. You just got it wrong thinking that

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<v Speaker 1>it was demons right. And David Ike says the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing as well. He says, you got all these religions

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<v Speaker 1>and cultures. They talk about gens, they talk about demons

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<v Speaker 1>and all this stuff, but it's really just space aliens.

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<v Speaker 1>I say, they flipped the labels, They've flipped the switch.

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<v Speaker 1>They have done this because they can't posit the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of their being a god. And so this is an

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<v Speaker 1>evolutionary inversion of reality. And that's what we need to

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<v Speaker 1>come to grips with. All these different streams are coming together,

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<v Speaker 1>the ritualized drugs that play tricks with your mind and

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps do take you to another realm. Who knows what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a guy that was working on documentary that

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<v Speaker 1>I met at an event that I was speaking at,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had gone to Burning Man and what they

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<v Speaker 1>said they saw there and were told that they had

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<v Speaker 1>all these executive, all these Silicon Valley big tech executives,

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<v Speaker 1>the multi billionaires, they were all in a tent, a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of them in a tent, and they were doing

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<v Speaker 1>DMT and they were getting technology from these mechanical elves

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<v Speaker 1>that they would then use. Now I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>that was true or not, but he said these people

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was happening. And so when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>this and what is behind it, whether you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the technocracy and their idea of a singularity, which again

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<v Speaker 1>is a counterfeit, repetition of the lives of the Garden

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<v Speaker 1>of Eden, when you look at these different threads, the

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<v Speaker 1>ancient ritualized drugs that would get people in contact with

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<v Speaker 1>these spirits, as well as the ritualized child abuse, all

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<v Speaker 1>of it is connected to these intelligence agencies and Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein and people of that ILK and so all these

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<v Speaker 1>different threads are coming together, and I think when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at how they're going to push this out and

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<v Speaker 1>to what end this is going to be, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're ready to do it because we had, as I

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<v Speaker 1>pointed out yesterday, we had Barack Obama just kind of casually,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, they're real, you know, and let that set

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<v Speaker 1>there for about a day, and then he came back

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<v Speaker 1>from it the next day. Laura Trump but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it was the next day, But soon after that,

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<v Speaker 1>Laura Trump on Fox News was talking about it and

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<v Speaker 1>I reported this and she said, yeah, my father in

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<v Speaker 1>law has got the letter written. It's just a question

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<v Speaker 1>of timing. And so we can look at this from

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<v Speaker 1>a purely political standpoint and say, yeah, he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>have something that's going to distract people, and certainly there

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<v Speaker 1>will be an advantage to him for that, but he

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<v Speaker 1>is also selling this as well. He was then asked

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<v Speaker 1>a question by Peter Doucy of Fox News on Air

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<v Speaker 1>Force One about what Obama had said, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>what Trump said.

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<v Speaker 2>Barack Obama said that aliens are real.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you seen any evidence of non human visitors?

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<v Speaker 2>Works?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he gave class of right information. He's not supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to be doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Aliens are real.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't know if they're real or not. I

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<v Speaker 3>can tell you he gave classified information. He's not supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to be doing well. He made it big for sake.

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<v Speaker 3>He took it out a class of fight information. No, don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have an opinion on it, and I never

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<v Speaker 3>talked about it. A lot of people, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do well.

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<v Speaker 2>If the president can declassify anything that he wants to.

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<v Speaker 3>I may get him out of trouble. But he classified

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<v Speaker 3>we know, illegally.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe he will declassify it. Right, And like Lauria,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump says, all you got the letter written, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of when he wants to drop that. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course then they asked, uh, Pete Hegsath because this

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of under the Department of Defense. And here's

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<v Speaker 1>what Pete Hegsath I had to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Three days ago, President Trump directed you to begin the

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<v Speaker 2>process of identifying.

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<v Speaker 4>What we seeing the UFO and l CUP files. And

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<v Speaker 4>did you ever think that he would be the Secretary

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<v Speaker 4>of War in charge of potentially declassifying extraterrestrial life America.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not have that on my lego card.

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<v Speaker 4>At all, And are not apparent to do that now?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, I mean, we've got our people working on

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to overseell how much time it will take.

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<v Speaker 4>Right we're digging in. We're we're gonna be a full

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<v Speaker 4>compliance with that executive order EA here to provide that

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<v Speaker 4>for the president. So there'll be more coming on that

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<v Speaker 4>fors the process of what we'll do and what sort

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<v Speaker 4>of time frame do you may stands for not long seeking.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there are definitely other beings, and of course every

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<v Speaker 1>the occult. And the American government has been trading in

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<v Speaker 1>the occult and working in the occult for a very

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<v Speaker 1>very long time. Going back to the CIA in the

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<v Speaker 1>mid twentieth century, Project Articode Artichoke is about seventy years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>the CIA discussed hiding mind control drugs and vaccines. This

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<v Speaker 1>from nineteen fifty one to nineteen fifty six, So the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifties Sea brainstormed ways to secretly perform mind control

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<v Speaker 1>on humans, including concealing drugs and vaccines and widely consumed

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<v Speaker 1>human behavior via drugs. The proposals contained in the document

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<v Speaker 1>were part of the CIA's top secret Project Artichoke, which

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<v Speaker 1>ran from fifty one to fifty six. According to The

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<v Speaker 1>Daily Mail, it included administering drugs in secret as part

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<v Speaker 1>of a long range approach to subjects. Again, we know

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<v Speaker 1>they did this with LSD and there was a famous

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<v Speaker 1>had no qualms whatsoever giving things to people surptitiously and

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<v Speaker 1>without informed consent. This study should include.

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<v Speaker 5>The whole practice of putting products in food that's consumed

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<v Speaker 5>that has a psychedelic effect. Isn't that essentially fluoride in

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can put that in that category as well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they definitely wanted to control our minds in order to

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<v Speaker 1>But all of these things are part of it. When

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the CIA, how evil they have been.

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<v Speaker 1>They have not just this didn't start with Jeffrey Epstein.

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<v Speaker 1>sexual stuff and in terms of mind controlled drugs and

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<v Speaker 1>all the rest of this, pedophile rings, all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>and this truly is a convergence of a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>all related to each other when you look at what

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<v Speaker 1>is happening. You know, we've been sold a mythology through

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<v Speaker 1>put it into a scientific roach, scientific and mathematical approach,

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<v Speaker 1>and what it is is a rebranding of an ancient truth,

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<v Speaker 1>because the ancient truth has to be kept from us. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>as I talked about yesterday, those one scientist who is

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<v Speaker 1>He said, well, they're not behaving as if they were aliens.

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<v Speaker 1>religious aspects of it as well. But again going back

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<v Speaker 1>to the CIA, the study should include chemicals, they said,

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<v Speaker 1>or drugs that can effectively be concealed in common items

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<v Speaker 1>such as food, water, coca cola, beer, liquor, cigarettes, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>This type of drug should be capable of use in

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<v Speaker 1>standard medical treatments like vaccinations, shots, et cetera. And so

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<v Speaker 1>they experimented on people as part of Project Arcto Chokea.

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<v Speaker 1>They included also mushrooms in this that produce a certain

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<v Speaker 1>Kesey and his merry band of pranksters, they then said,

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<v Speaker 1>course who is pushing the drugs the most, it's the CIA. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is all a convergence of all these different elements

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<v Speaker 1>coming together. So I think disclosure will be something that

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<v Speaker 1>they can use as a deceptive method to distract people

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<v Speaker 1>from what is really happening, as well as the other

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<v Speaker 1>things that they wish to do. According to Ben Tapper,

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<v Speaker 1>a Nebraska chiropractor who has included and the disinformation doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty one for questioning vaccine safety, he said

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<v Speaker 1>a disturbing reality that government agencies have historically explored ways

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<v Speaker 1>to manipulate human behavior through chemical and biological means, including

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<v Speaker 1>concepts involving food and medical interventions. This is not speculation,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not conspiracy, and it should deeply concern every American

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<v Speaker 1>who values bodily autonomy and informed consent. So again, Project

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<v Speaker 1>Artichoke grew into and became mk Ultra, which has been

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<v Speaker 1>exposed before. But Naomi Wolf, who has written about Pfizer

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<v Speaker 1>and Pfeiser's crimes against humanity, that's the name of her book.

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<v Speaker 1>The documents further confirm a long history of intelligence agencies

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<v Speaker 1>research targeting human thought and behavior. As I've said for

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<v Speaker 1>the longest time, we make a big mistake when we

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand how powerful their technology is and that there

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<v Speaker 1>are no limits on what they are morally capable of either. Certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>when we look at the history of the CIA comes

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<v Speaker 1>up over and over again, she said. Retouchers have long

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<v Speaker 1>suspected the Church Committee's revelation that the CIA's notorious MK

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<v Speaker 1>Ultra mind control experiments, mostly using LSD, had the effect

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<v Speaker 1>of obscuring the agencies much larger Project Artichoke, and so

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<v Speaker 1>this is all when you look at the disclosure talk

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<v Speaker 1>that is coming out there, just understand that you need

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<v Speaker 1>to have some discernment. You need to have a frame

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<v Speaker 1>of reference. Are you going to base this on some

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<v Speaker 1>papers from the Pentagon and from the CIA people who

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<v Speaker 1>work for them. Is that going to be your frame

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<v Speaker 1>of reference for the truth? Or are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>rest it on the scriptures on the Bible. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>key for you to get through this, to understand what

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<v Speaker 1>is true and where you stand on this, because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these things are coming through. Soy point out

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<v Speaker 1>last year a pharmaceutical research and development executive, we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this, and of course Sasha a lot of Pova,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you know of her. And Debbie Lherman released

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<v Speaker 1>the COVID Dossier, presenting evidence that the military industrial coordination

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<v Speaker 1>of the COVID response was not a public health event,

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<v Speaker 1>but a global operation coordinated through public, private intelligence, and

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<v Speaker 1>military alliances involving laws designed for chemical, biological, radiological and

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear weapon attacks. And of course it was also a

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<v Speaker 1>syop and we know that they did. These are the

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<v Speaker 1>germ games of the practice for twenty years, first one

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<v Speaker 1>being Dark Winter, and that was an alliance of these

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<v Speaker 1>public health agencies, the corporations, as well as the intelligence agencies.

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<v Speaker 1>And they practiced and rehearsed this stuff for twenty years

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<v Speaker 1>before they unleashed it on us. The entire thing was

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<v Speaker 1>a syop. And of course Yale the only studies that

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<v Speaker 1>were really done in terms of the COVID stuff. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do any studies to determine the safety or the

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<v Speaker 1>efficacy of any vaccines or any the rest of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>The studies that they did were how they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to manipulate people and trick people into taking these vaccines

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<v Speaker 1>when there wasn't going to be any safety or efficacy

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<v Speaker 1>that was determined with any of this, or skipt all

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<v Speaker 1>the testing except for the psychological operation that was very

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<v Speaker 1>heavily tested. Well, we're going to take a quick break

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<v Speaker 1>here and we're going to come back, and I've got

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<v Speaker 1>the interview with the cancer survivor over half a century,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's doing great. He's probably better help than I am.

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<v Speaker 1>And what he had to say about what worked for

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<v Speaker 1>him and what continued to work for him, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's very important. I just saw an article from

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<v Speaker 1>retired Senator Ben Sass He has terminal cancer. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>tumors all over his body, and he says he's basically,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's nothing else that can be done. He's

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<v Speaker 1>He said, I remember when Tim Keller died. Tim Kellor,

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<v Speaker 1>a Christian pastor and teacher. He said, Tim Kellor when

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<v Speaker 1>he had the same type of cancer that Ben Sass had.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, there's a lot of things that I regret,

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<v Speaker 1>the prayer life that I had before I had cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Ben Sas said, I didn't understand that at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, but I understand it now. Well, that is

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<v Speaker 1>an important thing, but it's also important for us to

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<v Speaker 1>know that there are things out there that, apparently for

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<v Speaker 1>some people, certainly at least for our guest, work far

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<v Speaker 1>better than any of the standard cancer treatments. And then

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<v Speaker 1>after his interview, we're going to have an interview with

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<v Speaker 1>someone who is going to talk about how real estate

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<v Speaker 1>is being changed, the buying and selling real estate, how

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<v Speaker 1>technology is impinging on that. You know, everything is being

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<v Speaker 1>And he has an international brokerage firm, and he's going

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<v Speaker 1>picture looks like internationally. Curiously enough, he's based out of

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<v Speaker 1>Venezuela and he finds these depressed areas, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>somebody might go into Detroit and look for a bargain

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<v Speaker 1>there and hope that it's going to turn around. He

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<v Speaker 1>to turn around. So he thinks it's a big business opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>But he also helps people. A lot of them maybe

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<v Speaker 1>here because they come from another country and they're thinking

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<v Speaker 1>as they retire, they're going to go back to their

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<v Speaker 1>So I think you'll find that interesting as well. We're

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<v Speaker 1>back with the Cancer Survivor. You're listening to the David

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<v Speaker 1>an ambassador for Oasis of Hope Hospital. He's also, most

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<v Speaker 1>importantly a cancer survivor, and he's written about that he

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<v Speaker 1>had cancer fifty two years ago and he found something

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<v Speaker 1>that's very effective. So we want to find out a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about his story because we're seeing an uptick

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<v Speaker 1>in cancer, not only that, but in turbo cancer. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got just this last week or so, we now have

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration pushing for glycysset, compelling its production, and

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<v Speaker 1>offering legal immunity for that. So what can we do

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<v Speaker 1>as individuals to protect ourselves from cancer? So we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to Rick Hill about that. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us, sir.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you're welcome, looking forward to this, and you're quite right,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, most of what has happened in this administration

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<v Speaker 4>has been good. But man, he's got a backtrack on

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<v Speaker 4>this because of we MAGA supporters or me, I should say,

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<v Speaker 4>they gave him a million dollars toward his campaign last year,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that seems to be the magic number. Yeah, million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>They always seem to be able to get at least

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand times they turn on their investment. You just

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<v Speaker 1>get somebody thousands of dollars, you get millions or billions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars. You know, in this particular case, they got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more than millions of dollars. But anyway, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk a little bit about your story and then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about the pushback from the cancer industry as

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<v Speaker 1>to what you're saying. And I think we have seen

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<v Speaker 1>all that this is an opportunity. I think that they

422
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<v Speaker 1>handed us because people have been trying to talk about

423
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<v Speaker 1>alternative medicine and say, why can't we try this or

424
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<v Speaker 1>try that. We saw that all shut down during the pandemic.

425
00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:07.119
<v Speaker 1>They said, well, here's this terrible pandemic. It's the worst

426
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<v Speaker 1>thing we've ever seen in a history. And yet we're

427
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<v Speaker 1>not going to let you try anything. You're going to

428
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<v Speaker 1>set there locked down until we've got our solution is

429
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<v Speaker 1>delivered to you, and then we'll compel you to take that.

430
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<v Speaker 1>And I think that woke a lot of people up.

431
00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:23.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if that doesn't wake you up, what will?

432
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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was a frightening time. Yeah, I mean, golly,

434
00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:34.480
<v Speaker 4>I didn't survive the Mayo Clinic and then my flight

435
00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:39.480
<v Speaker 4>to Tijuana to be taken out by a vaccine. Yeah,

436
00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:44.400
<v Speaker 4>I didn't get it. I refused it, and you know,

437
00:26:44.680 --> 00:26:48.039
<v Speaker 4>I just said Thanksgiving. There are things we didn't talk

438
00:26:48.079 --> 00:26:51.279
<v Speaker 4>about with our family, and that was one of them.

439
00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:53.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, a lot of people are taken in by

440
00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:54.920
<v Speaker 1>it and a lot of people, unfortunately, have been taken

441
00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:57.680
<v Speaker 1>out by it. But let's talk about cancer and tell

442
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<v Speaker 1>us your story. You were diagnosed in night teen seventy four.

443
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:01.960
<v Speaker 1>What kind of cancer did you have?

444
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:10.559
<v Speaker 4>The technical term Travis's imbriono cell carcinoma, and that is

445
00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:14.720
<v Speaker 4>a germ cancer, meaning I probably had it from birth.

446
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:19.519
<v Speaker 4>And I was twenty four when I was diagnosed, and

447
00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:23.440
<v Speaker 4>they did eight and a half hours of exploratory surgery.

448
00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:26.240
<v Speaker 4>Remember they didn't have scans way back then.

449
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

450
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:30.119
<v Speaker 4>And so they operated up here in my clavigal and

451
00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:35.359
<v Speaker 4>found in the lymphatic system a cancer. And the lymphatic

452
00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:38.400
<v Speaker 4>system is like a super highway once you get it

453
00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:42.960
<v Speaker 4>in there, man, especially if it's high grade embryono cell

454
00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:49.400
<v Speaker 4>carcinoma that's like stage four, And in the system like that,

455
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:54.519
<v Speaker 4>it runs like a racehorse. And they operated on my feet.

456
00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:58.640
<v Speaker 4>They found it head to toe, stowed me back up

457
00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:03.519
<v Speaker 4>and said, in fighte your family in you are in trouble.

458
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

459
00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:08.240
<v Speaker 4>So my family flew into town and I was scheduled

460
00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:13.759
<v Speaker 4>to have chemo. And here's where the story really gets interesting.

461
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:19.119
<v Speaker 4>Imagine a guy down to one hundred and twenty pounds

462
00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:25.559
<v Speaker 4>on morphine, schedule for chemotherapy on Monday. It's now Friday,

463
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:28.599
<v Speaker 4>and I get a letter in the mail. I open

464
00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:32.319
<v Speaker 4>it says, dear Rick, if you want to live, you're

465
00:28:32.359 --> 00:28:34.880
<v Speaker 4>going to have to leave the mail clinic.

466
00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:35.599
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

467
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<v Speaker 4>So I knew this guy. He's a Baptist pastor, and

468
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:42.559
<v Speaker 4>I called him up and I said, you know, whatever

469
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:49.480
<v Speaker 4>you're smoking, send me some because I'm about a week

470
00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:52.839
<v Speaker 4>away from meeting our creator. And he said, well, I

471
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:55.079
<v Speaker 4>know that, that's why I wrote you. I said, well, John,

472
00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:59.400
<v Speaker 4>what are you not John Richardson? His name is John Ballentine.

473
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:02.279
<v Speaker 4>I said, John, what are you thinking? Why would I

474
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:05.720
<v Speaker 4>leave the Mayo Clinic. It's a citadel of modern medicine.

475
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:09.559
<v Speaker 4>He said, I agree with that, but I don't think

476
00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:12.319
<v Speaker 4>it's medicine you need. And I said, well, what do

477
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:14.599
<v Speaker 4>you think I need? He said, are you sitting down?

478
00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:20.640
<v Speaker 4>The story was so bizarre. He said, you're going to

479
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:24.119
<v Speaker 4>have to leave and go to Tijuana and there they're

480
00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:28.519
<v Speaker 4>going to take a derivative of the apricot fruit and

481
00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:32.799
<v Speaker 4>injected in your veins. I said, that's the story you

482
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:35.240
<v Speaker 4>want me to give my family that have flown in

483
00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:40.079
<v Speaker 4>the saga that I'm leaving the Mao clinic. I've got

484
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:44.599
<v Speaker 4>good insurance and I'm going to go to tj for apricot.

485
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:47.839
<v Speaker 4>And he said, I know it doesn't sound good, does it?

486
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:48.880
<v Speaker 1>He said no?

487
00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:52.519
<v Speaker 4>And I said, look, John, I'm not going to argue

488
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:56.039
<v Speaker 4>with you. I have an appointment with my chemotherapist in

489
00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:59.519
<v Speaker 4>about an hour. I'm going to drive over there and

490
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:01.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to tell him what you told me. I'm

491
00:30:01.960 --> 00:30:05.000
<v Speaker 4>telling at you. And he said, good luck with that, pal.

492
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>So I did.

493
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:08.759
<v Speaker 4>I got my car, I drove over there, sat down,

494
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:13.559
<v Speaker 4>told him the story I just told your viewers. And

495
00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:15.880
<v Speaker 4>I thought I was going to learn new swear words.

496
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:20.440
<v Speaker 4>I thought this chemo therapist was you little pip squeak,

497
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:26.839
<v Speaker 4>you know? And instead he folded his arms, sat back

498
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:30.240
<v Speaker 4>in his chair and he says to me, you know, Rick,

499
00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:38.160
<v Speaker 4>it is warm in Tijuana this time of year. And

500
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:40.759
<v Speaker 4>I thought, did I hear what I just heard? And

501
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:43.599
<v Speaker 4>you know he's not going to jeopardize his three hundred

502
00:30:43.640 --> 00:30:46.880
<v Speaker 4>k job a year. And I stood up and I said,

503
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:53.400
<v Speaker 4>message delivered. I appreciate your honesty. And I walked to

504
00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:56.000
<v Speaker 4>the door, put my hand on the antle, turned and said,

505
00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:00.400
<v Speaker 4>I probably will never see you again. And he's mild

506
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:05.559
<v Speaker 4>and I left. Two days later. I'm in TJ. And

507
00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:08.079
<v Speaker 4>that was like going down the rabbit hole.

508
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:09.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I grew up.

509
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:13.000
<v Speaker 4>I grew up a Detroit greaser. You know what a

510
00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:16.920
<v Speaker 4>greaser is like Phonsie. Oh, yeah, that is what I

511
00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:20.319
<v Speaker 4>look like in nineteen seventy four. I'm a little messed

512
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:23.200
<v Speaker 4>up there, but that's after ten hours of being under

513
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:29.599
<v Speaker 4>you know, surgery. And if there was a health food

514
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:32.799
<v Speaker 4>store in Detroit, I'd never been to it and didn't

515
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:37.440
<v Speaker 4>know where it was, and I wouldn't have. I mean,

516
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:41.319
<v Speaker 4>my mother grew up in Alabama. I grew up on

517
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:47.599
<v Speaker 4>soul food, which is fried pork, country gravy on everything,

518
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, all the sweets you could eat. And we

519
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:54.160
<v Speaker 4>just weren't that family.

520
00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:54.799
<v Speaker 2>We weren't.

521
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:57.519
<v Speaker 4>And here I am in a helt food store now

522
00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:00.839
<v Speaker 4>in San Diego, trying to find something I can eat

523
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:04.720
<v Speaker 4>because they told me no more bad food, no more sugar,

524
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:10.240
<v Speaker 4>and I felt like there's Ravi Shanker music playing in

525
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:13.759
<v Speaker 4>the background. I'm the only one in the store wearing underwear.

526
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:14.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this.

527
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:20.319
<v Speaker 4>Stone ground heaven for these people, and I'm thinking, I

528
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:23.839
<v Speaker 4>don't blend, you know what. I want to make a

529
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:29.240
<v Speaker 4>point here. Your viewers don't have to blend for this

530
00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:33.279
<v Speaker 4>to work. Yeah, they have to be willing to alter

531
00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:37.880
<v Speaker 4>their life, but they don't have to be, you know,

532
00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:41.200
<v Speaker 4>a nineteen seventies what I would. And I'm not trying

533
00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:46.039
<v Speaker 4>to offend anybody hippie to make this work. I'm a grease, sir.

534
00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:53.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm wearing a long leather jacket, you know. And I

535
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:56.720
<v Speaker 4>thought I just don't blend. But when I met doctor

536
00:32:56.799 --> 00:33:01.759
<v Speaker 4>Contreras Senior, he said to me a very important statement.

537
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:07.599
<v Speaker 4>He said, Rick, this is participatory medicine. If you don't

538
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:12.559
<v Speaker 4>help us, we will fail and you will die. You're

539
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:16.680
<v Speaker 4>a sick puppy and I need your help. I said,

540
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:17.400
<v Speaker 4>what do you want me to do?

541
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:17.759
<v Speaker 1>Doc?

542
00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:21.680
<v Speaker 4>He said, everything we ask you to do, I want

543
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:24.519
<v Speaker 4>you to be willing to do it. And I just

544
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:30.240
<v Speaker 4>had no idea what that entailed. First day I'm in there,

545
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:32.720
<v Speaker 4>they come in and they give me the latrill, you know,

546
00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:36.799
<v Speaker 4>shots right here in the arm, and that's at vitamin

547
00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:42.400
<v Speaker 4>B seventeen a magdalen, a derivative of the apricot six grams.

548
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:45.680
<v Speaker 4>You know, that's a big shot. And then they gave

549
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:53.400
<v Speaker 4>me a whole bunch of pancreatic enzymes. Nothing like that

550
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:58.519
<v Speaker 4>had ever been in this body either one. And then

551
00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:01.599
<v Speaker 4>she comes in carrying a bout and the nurse is

552
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:06.799
<v Speaker 4>trying to be cheery, and she says, today we are

553
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:11.960
<v Speaker 4>going to start your detox program. I said, great, what's

554
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:15.599
<v Speaker 4>a detox? And she says, well, have you ever change

555
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:18.079
<v Speaker 4>water in the radiator of your car? I said, of course.

556
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:21.239
<v Speaker 4>She says how'd you do it? I said, well, you know,

557
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:23.840
<v Speaker 4>you undo the deals, you get the garden hose and

558
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:26.679
<v Speaker 4>then when it runs clear, you take the hose out,

559
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:29.159
<v Speaker 4>cap it up, lay rubber out of the parking lot.

560
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:33.920
<v Speaker 4>I had a fifty seven Ford slick tires, hearst floor

561
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:39.679
<v Speaker 4>shift handling life. Okay. I look at her and I

562
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:42.760
<v Speaker 4>say that thing you're carrying, where does that hose go?

563
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:51.159
<v Speaker 4>And she says, well, and I for the for your

564
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:55.719
<v Speaker 4>listeners that don't know what a colonic is, picture yourself

565
00:34:55.840 --> 00:35:02.039
<v Speaker 4>water skiing really fast and then just sit. Okay, I

566
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:06.559
<v Speaker 4>know what a kiloanit is. And I didn't tell any

567
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:09.159
<v Speaker 4>of my friends about this. I didn't even tell my

568
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:09.960
<v Speaker 4>family what.

569
00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:10.599
<v Speaker 2>I was doing.

570
00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:15.880
<v Speaker 4>But here's the thing. I was only there three weeks.

571
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:22.280
<v Speaker 4>And after three weeks, my color came back, my appetite

572
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:27.320
<v Speaker 4>came back. I wasn't cured. I don't think anybody's cured.

573
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:29.960
<v Speaker 4>You can bring that stuff back in a heartbeat. If

574
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:32.400
<v Speaker 4>you go back to doing what you were doing before

575
00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:38.239
<v Speaker 4>you got sick. And three weeks I'm out of there.

576
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:42.679
<v Speaker 4>And a lady that I know on my Facebook site

577
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:47.599
<v Speaker 4>was there when I was there, glioblastoma, brain cancer spread

578
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:53.679
<v Speaker 4>to her spine, couldn't walk. Three weeks later, Travis, both

579
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:57.800
<v Speaker 4>of us walked out of that clinic. Wow, and she contacts.

580
00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:00.639
<v Speaker 4>I saw her two days ago on my face book site.

581
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:06.280
<v Speaker 4>Living in Key West, twenty or thirty grandkids, too much son.

582
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:11.199
<v Speaker 4>I'm not a one off deal, not a one off deal.

583
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:15.320
<v Speaker 4>There are hundreds of thousands of us out there, but

584
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:19.199
<v Speaker 4>I'm one of the few vocal ones. Because our government,

585
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:21.320
<v Speaker 4>and that's kind of what I want to focus on.

586
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:28.519
<v Speaker 4>If you're agreeable, our government drove it underground. In fact,

587
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:32.960
<v Speaker 4>the book that I wrote, Too Young to Die, I

588
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:35.280
<v Speaker 4>mean I had to be careful where I sold that

589
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:40.280
<v Speaker 4>I've got a little thing here that when I would

590
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:43.599
<v Speaker 4>go to a town and speak, that town would put

591
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:46.440
<v Speaker 4>a little thing in the newspaper saying I was coming.

592
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:50.280
<v Speaker 4>And then after I had spoken, they put another article

593
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:54.119
<v Speaker 4>in the paper saying here's what he said. The American

594
00:36:54.400 --> 00:37:02.679
<v Speaker 4>Cancer Society used to put an alternate a position right

595
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:06.800
<v Speaker 4>across from my article that said, as for the testimony offered,

596
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:09.960
<v Speaker 4>it may be that he never had cancer in the

597
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:10.559
<v Speaker 4>first place.

598
00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:12.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I saw that he denied it.

599
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:17.079
<v Speaker 4>So after about the third article, I clipped him, sent

600
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:21.000
<v Speaker 4>him to the Mayo Clinic and said, you have misdiagnosed me.

601
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:25.719
<v Speaker 4>The American Cancer Society says this that I never had

602
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:27.440
<v Speaker 4>it in the first place, So what did you do

603
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:31.400
<v Speaker 4>that surgery for? I'm getting an attorney. I got this

604
00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:36.039
<v Speaker 4>letter back overnight from the Mayo Clinic. In regard to

605
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:39.280
<v Speaker 4>your question that people have asked questioning as to whether

606
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:42.480
<v Speaker 4>or not you actually did have cancer in the first place,

607
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:47.800
<v Speaker 4>You are entirely right that you had stage three high

608
00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:54.880
<v Speaker 4>grade imbriono cel carsonoma and that chemotherapy was mandatory when

609
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:55.840
<v Speaker 4>I up and left.

610
00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

611
00:37:57.360 --> 00:37:59.760
<v Speaker 1>So and the letter that you sent me was from

612
00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:01.880
<v Speaker 1>the doctor that diagnosed it, and he said, I'm glad

613
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:04.639
<v Speaker 1>that you're feeling well, but he goes, you know, we

614
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:06.400
<v Speaker 1>did this, we found the tumor, and he talked about

615
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:08.559
<v Speaker 1>all the different aspects of what were the symptoms that

616
00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:09.639
<v Speaker 1>you had with that cancer.

617
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:11.960
<v Speaker 4>Well, I had a tumor. It was in the groin.

618
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:14.320
<v Speaker 4>So I didn't do a lot of horseback riding back then.

619
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:21.679
<v Speaker 4>And then I started not feeling well, achy, bad mood,

620
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:26.000
<v Speaker 4>you know. And I was a parochial school principal at

621
00:38:26.039 --> 00:38:29.000
<v Speaker 4>the time. I had to go to seminary to do that,

622
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:33.000
<v Speaker 4>and I thought, golly, I work for God. What is

623
00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:36.320
<v Speaker 4>this about. What do you mean terminal? Why would you

624
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:41.199
<v Speaker 4>use that term with me? And it's discouraging. That's what

625
00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:45.119
<v Speaker 4>I want people to know that if they're dealing with

626
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:49.360
<v Speaker 4>this and they're discouraged, I'm on your team, yeah, because

627
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<v Speaker 4>I know what it is to believe that I may

628
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<v Speaker 4>not have any hope left in this life. And I

629
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<v Speaker 4>define hope as that my calling now has helped other

630
00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:09.320
<v Speaker 4>people escape hope, because I think for most people, not everybody,

631
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:13.719
<v Speaker 4>but for most people. If the disease didn't kill him,

632
00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:14.639
<v Speaker 4>the chemo will.

633
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

634
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:19.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the disease didn't kill him, the radiation will. And

635
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:23.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm looking you in the eye, Travis, and I'm saying

636
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:30.199
<v Speaker 4>I took massive amounts of a magdalen and pancreatic enzymes

637
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:34.760
<v Speaker 4>and everything else. I never even I never even got

638
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:38.599
<v Speaker 4>a headache. My hair didn't fall out. Now today it's

639
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:43.400
<v Speaker 4>falling out. But I'm seventy four years old. Okay, let's talk.

640
00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:45.639
<v Speaker 2>But not then.

641
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:48.679
<v Speaker 4>I didn't have a fever, I didn't throw up, I

642
00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:52.039
<v Speaker 4>wasn't running to the bathroom people.

643
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it was I'm sympathetic with that. My father died

644
00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:59.519
<v Speaker 1>from chemotherapy the very first time they gave him the chemotherapy.

645
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:01.280
<v Speaker 1>When it took comment, it never came out of it.

646
00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:06.559
<v Speaker 1>So the stuff that they give people, you know, I

647
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:09.000
<v Speaker 1>was open to this from the very beginning. But like

648
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I said, I think we've got an opening because what

649
00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:14.719
<v Speaker 1>people saw five years ago and the fact that there

650
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:18.559
<v Speaker 1>was obviously a different agenda. One of the articles that

651
00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:22.360
<v Speaker 1>you clipped and sent to me, it was a rebuttal,

652
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:25.119
<v Speaker 1>part of the rebuttal from the American Cancer Society, and

653
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<v Speaker 1>they said, well, We just don't feel that this has

654
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<v Speaker 1>any benefit. WHOA wait a minute, you don't feel that

655
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:34.480
<v Speaker 1>it has there's nothing scientific or medical about this. You

656
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:37.119
<v Speaker 1>just don't feel that it has any benefit, and keep

657
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:39.920
<v Speaker 1>on reading. It says, well, to date, there haven't been

658
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:43.119
<v Speaker 1>any test results to show its effectiveness. It's like, well,

659
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:45.440
<v Speaker 1>then there haven't been any test results to show that

660
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:48.280
<v Speaker 1>it's not effective either, Right, you haven't tested it. You

661
00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:51.960
<v Speaker 1>just this is not about medicine or science. It's about business.

662
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:57.360
<v Speaker 4>I think, deny, deny, denied because Travis nobody kicks a

663
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:02.639
<v Speaker 4>dead dog, and nobody's thrown doctors in jail and terminating

664
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:09.159
<v Speaker 4>their license like they did John Richardson's father. If they're

665
00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:14.800
<v Speaker 4>prescribing ivermectin or finn beIN or mistletoe or these other

666
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:17.920
<v Speaker 4>things that are out there, why because they don't work

667
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:21.920
<v Speaker 4>as well they work, they help, they don't work as

668
00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:26.159
<v Speaker 4>well as this does. This was developed in nineteen o

669
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:32.480
<v Speaker 4>two by a doctor, John Beard. In the book World

670
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:38.760
<v Speaker 4>Without Cancer, Chapter five, This guy had a whole bunch

671
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:44.320
<v Speaker 4>of stage four cancer. People gave him these pancreatic enzymes Kimo,

672
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:48.960
<v Speaker 4>Tripson and Tripson, and they got well. And he published

673
00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:53.960
<v Speaker 4>the results they came after him. So nobody kicks a

674
00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:57.519
<v Speaker 4>dead dog. And even today I went in to a

675
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:01.639
<v Speaker 4>very popular hospital chain just for my annual checkup. I'm

676
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:05.679
<v Speaker 4>not against medicine. I'm not against all doctors and everything, but.

677
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:10.679
<v Speaker 1>Let the buyer beware. That's the whole thing. We should

678
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:13.559
<v Speaker 1>be skeptical about it, just not blindly trust this stuff.

679
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:14.719
<v Speaker 1>And that's what a lot of people do.

680
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and this I had to.

681
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:19.280
<v Speaker 4>Get another doctor because he found out that I went

682
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:20.000
<v Speaker 4>to Tijuana.

683
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Really.

684
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:24.920
<v Speaker 4>He said, yeah, some people think if they eat apricots

685
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:29.000
<v Speaker 4>they're going to get well. And I said, doc, I

686
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:31.920
<v Speaker 4>did that. And he looked at his file and he

687
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:35.880
<v Speaker 4>didn't have anything in there, and he said, we're done here,

688
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:40.239
<v Speaker 4>and he got up, left the office and slammed the door. Wow,

689
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:44.519
<v Speaker 4>fifty one years later, he's slamming the door in my face.

690
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:50.079
<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking, these people hold on to grievances. You think,

691
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:52.760
<v Speaker 4>you go, well, let's let buy gnes being by you

692
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:53.960
<v Speaker 4>look pretty good now.

693
00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:54.639
<v Speaker 2>Nope.

694
00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:59.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're not interested in the actual results there. They

695
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:02.800
<v Speaker 1>just they've got their paradigm and their business that they

696
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:05.159
<v Speaker 1>want to push forward. And that's the key thing. Well,

697
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:07.119
<v Speaker 1>I certainly know what that is like, and of course

698
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:09.400
<v Speaker 1>my audience that knows that as well, have been banned

699
00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:13.639
<v Speaker 1>on PayPal and Venmo and YouTube and Facebook and on

700
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.239
<v Speaker 1>and on and on, because I'm not going to be

701
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:18.840
<v Speaker 1>quiet about it. And I appreciate you persisting in this

702
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:21.360
<v Speaker 1>as well, because it's very important when you get something

703
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:24.440
<v Speaker 1>like this and you have to look at why these

704
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:28.880
<v Speaker 1>people are so hell bent, literally hell bent on trying

705
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:31.920
<v Speaker 1>to suppress this information that could help people and to

706
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:33.960
<v Speaker 1>push something on them that's going to harm them, because

707
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:36.480
<v Speaker 1>they have some benefits somehow out of this. That is

708
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:40.719
<v Speaker 1>the amazing thing, probably like your acronym of hope, helping

709
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:43.840
<v Speaker 1>other people escape, that's really the key thing. I think.

710
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:47.880
<v Speaker 4>Well, and I'd like to give your viewers a free

711
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:52.280
<v Speaker 4>book with no credit card to have nobody calls, but

712
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:56.960
<v Speaker 4>if they will log on to world My World without

713
00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:02.679
<v Speaker 4>Cancer dot com My World without Cancer dot com, I

714
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:05.199
<v Speaker 4>will send them a three hundred page book which has

715
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:11.559
<v Speaker 4>in chapter five this doctor Beard's research, so that they

716
00:44:11.679 --> 00:44:14.400
<v Speaker 4>can go, well, you know, I heard this weird story

717
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:18.960
<v Speaker 4>today on this program, but the guy sent me a

718
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:22.119
<v Speaker 4>free book. I read it and it seems credible to me.

719
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:23.880
<v Speaker 4>And this is from nineteen oh two.

720
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Wow, all these years.

721
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:30.199
<v Speaker 4>They've hidden this. Wow, and I just think that's criminal.

722
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:35.960
<v Speaker 4>Just how come I couldn't use my insurance to get

723
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:39.039
<v Speaker 4>this treatment? Why did I have to leave the country

724
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:39.639
<v Speaker 4>to do it?

725
00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:42.920
<v Speaker 1>That's right? And why is it that doctors can't talk

726
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:46.400
<v Speaker 1>to patients about different alternatives. Why do I have to

727
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:49.840
<v Speaker 1>have politicians that are going to set in judgment of

728
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:53.239
<v Speaker 1>what I'm allowed to use for my own health. That

729
00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:55.679
<v Speaker 1>makes absolutely no sense, but that's where we are in

730
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:56.760
<v Speaker 1>this country, unfortunately.

731
00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:00.239
<v Speaker 4>So they can get that free book, and then if

732
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:03.519
<v Speaker 4>they want my book for free, they can go on

733
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:08.159
<v Speaker 4>to B seventeen works dot com and there's a little

734
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:11.159
<v Speaker 4>questionnaire to fill out and if they want to talk

735
00:45:11.239 --> 00:45:13.559
<v Speaker 4>to me, I'll give them a callback or I'll send

736
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:16.760
<v Speaker 4>them an email. But I'll also send them a PDF

737
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:19.880
<v Speaker 4>copy of my book, Too Young to Die. I'm not

738
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:23.360
<v Speaker 4>a scholar, I'm not a doctor, but it's a story

739
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:26.719
<v Speaker 4>of hope. Well, I talked to details.

740
00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I've talked to John Richards several times and I

741
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:33.199
<v Speaker 1>told him, I said, I don't discount anecdotal stories. I

742
00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:36.519
<v Speaker 1>think they're very important because when you look at these

743
00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:39.320
<v Speaker 1>studies that are orchestrated. I reported on this over and

744
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:42.239
<v Speaker 1>over again. How you got three different pharmaceutical companies. They've

745
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:44.119
<v Speaker 1>all got to draw a drug that they want to

746
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:47.880
<v Speaker 1>use to sell you to treat a particular condition. And

747
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:50.519
<v Speaker 1>they all do their own studies. And guess what, the

748
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:53.760
<v Speaker 1>people that they hire to do the studies, if Brand

749
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:57.119
<v Speaker 1>A hires the person to do the task, guests which

750
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:00.840
<v Speaker 1>brand is the best one? Brand A, And if Brand

751
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:03.360
<v Speaker 1>B hires somebody else, it's going to be Brand Be's

752
00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:05.559
<v Speaker 1>going to be the best one. And so I don't

753
00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:09.239
<v Speaker 1>really have a lot of faith and a lot of

754
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:11.039
<v Speaker 1>these studies because you look at them, a lot of

755
00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:13.760
<v Speaker 1>them have a conflict of interest in terms of who's

756
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:17.199
<v Speaker 1>paying for them. When as you look at somebody's particular

757
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:21.199
<v Speaker 1>anecdotal story like yours, your interest is just in trying

758
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:23.519
<v Speaker 1>to help other people and tell them where you found

759
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:24.079
<v Speaker 1>some help.

760
00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:26.840
<v Speaker 4>And that's the key that sent me a million dollars

761
00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:27.400
<v Speaker 4>last year.

762
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:28.920
<v Speaker 1>That's right, pain, you know.

763
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:35.000
<v Speaker 4>And I just I'm not for sale, and I've done

764
00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:37.719
<v Speaker 4>without some things in order to do this. But I

765
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:42.519
<v Speaker 4>look at it this way. This Baptist pastor right fifty

766
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:47.280
<v Speaker 4>one years ago stuck his nose in my business and

767
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:50.480
<v Speaker 4>said Rick you're going to die if you keep doing

768
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:56.920
<v Speaker 4>what you're doing. And today I'm I'm seventy four, five,

769
00:46:57.320 --> 00:47:03.159
<v Speaker 4>seventy five now, and I I don't have the problems

770
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:08.119
<v Speaker 4>that other people have. I just don't.

771
00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:10.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't. Yeah.

772
00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:13.639
<v Speaker 4>I see people in grocery stores. They're my age, Yeah,

773
00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:16.079
<v Speaker 4>hanging on the handle to get out of the store,

774
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:20.559
<v Speaker 4>nothing but sugar in their cart. Yeah, and they're on

775
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:22.760
<v Speaker 4>eight or nine prescriptions.

776
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:25.320
<v Speaker 1>That's the other thing. Yeah, that's the other thing. They

777
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:28.519
<v Speaker 1>give you a prescription for one thing, and then that

778
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:32.079
<v Speaker 1>may actually exacerbate that condition, but then it creates some

779
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:34.840
<v Speaker 1>other side issues. And so you start taking some drugs

780
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:37.320
<v Speaker 1>for these other side issues. And now what's the interaction

781
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:39.440
<v Speaker 1>with all these drugs. Nobody tests that at all.

782
00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:44.880
<v Speaker 4>Met Foreman is a gateway, And unfortunately, in our society,

783
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:48.360
<v Speaker 4>about two thirds of the people you'll ever walk by

784
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:52.960
<v Speaker 4>are on met Foreman and glip aside and all these

785
00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:57.199
<v Speaker 4>other things because somebody convinced them that sugar is okay

786
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:03.400
<v Speaker 4>in modest amounts. As long as it's in fruit modest amounts,

787
00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:09.639
<v Speaker 4>it is okay. But a Coca Cola, you know, nine

788
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:13.039
<v Speaker 4>tablespoons of sugar in that puppy and then they go

789
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:15.360
<v Speaker 4>into the seven eleven and get a big gulp.

790
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:17.440
<v Speaker 2>One's not enough.

791
00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:24.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I want to die quickly. So we are we're

792
00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:26.559
<v Speaker 4>what a species are.

793
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:29.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It really is amazing too when you go back

794
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:32.679
<v Speaker 1>and look at pictures of just the general population in

795
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:35.400
<v Speaker 1>the fifties, sixties and seventies and so, and how thin

796
00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:39.599
<v Speaker 1>everybody was, and how have you everybody yesterday? It's amazing

797
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:41.280
<v Speaker 1>for me to go back and look. I tried to

798
00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:45.880
<v Speaker 1>go back to the high school I attended and see

799
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:48.480
<v Speaker 1>what was happening to it because there was a controversy

800
00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:51.280
<v Speaker 1>about the mascot there. It was Chiefs and they don't

801
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:53.559
<v Speaker 1>allow that anymore, right, So I go back and look,

802
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:56.320
<v Speaker 1>and and you know, the band that was there and

803
00:48:56.440 --> 00:48:59.360
<v Speaker 1>the majorrettes and cheerleaders and stuff. Was like, how did

804
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:01.559
<v Speaker 1>everybody it's so fat? It's amazing.

805
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:06.360
<v Speaker 4>You look terrific, And yeah, you must have walked around thinking,

806
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:10.280
<v Speaker 4>now I'm the one that's not really fitting in.

807
00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:12.119
<v Speaker 1>It was strange.

808
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:14.079
<v Speaker 4>Yet, yeah, let me let me get rid of that.

809
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:18.480
<v Speaker 4>When I use my computer, it even though I've got

810
00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:24.280
<v Speaker 4>my phone off, my computer will say take the call. Yeah,

811
00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:30.239
<v Speaker 4>you know, I I don't understand why someone wouldn't at

812
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:34.480
<v Speaker 4>least sit down with me like a doctor, like the

813
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:41.360
<v Speaker 4>surgeon that did all of that, and say, hey, I

814
00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:44.960
<v Speaker 4>don't agree with what you did, but i'm at it worked.

815
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:48.400
<v Speaker 4>Tell me what you did. I'll take notes and I

816
00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:53.000
<v Speaker 4>will look at it. They just say, no, I'm not

817
00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:56.559
<v Speaker 4>interested in what you did. I don't understand that.

818
00:49:57.159 --> 00:49:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, I've seen what you're talking about. When it comes

819
00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:03.960
<v Speaker 1>to media tree right, Pediatricians have been put under economic

820
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:06.320
<v Speaker 1>pressure by the insurance companies that if they don't get

821
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:10.920
<v Speaker 1>a certain percentage of their kids vaccinated per the vaccine schedule,

822
00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:14.679
<v Speaker 1>they get their insurance cut so drastically that it puts

823
00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:17.159
<v Speaker 1>them out of business. And so these guys are really

824
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:19.599
<v Speaker 1>aggressive about it. I first saw that when our kids

825
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:23.400
<v Speaker 1>were young, about thirty years ago, aggressively pushing this vaccine

826
00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:26.400
<v Speaker 1>stuff and trying to get us to put them on

827
00:50:26.519 --> 00:50:29.519
<v Speaker 1>fluoride pills because we were on well water. This guy

828
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:32.519
<v Speaker 1>was adamant about all this stuff, and I didn't argue

829
00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:34.480
<v Speaker 1>with him. We just never went back, you know. But

830
00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:37.719
<v Speaker 1>it really is amazing the kind of how they have

831
00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:42.679
<v Speaker 1>embraced this as their identity, as their profession, and they

832
00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:45.440
<v Speaker 1>are as aggressive in terms of pushing this as the

833
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:48.199
<v Speaker 1>people who are directly making the product.

834
00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:52.639
<v Speaker 4>Well, imagine John, I know you've interviewed John Richardson, but

835
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:54.840
<v Speaker 4>imagine what it was like growing up in that house.

836
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<v Speaker 4>Your dad's a doctor, he's running for Congress, He's a

837
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:06.159
<v Speaker 4>very popular person in that community northern California, and all

838
00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:09.639
<v Speaker 4>of a sudden they come into his office with the

839
00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:14.920
<v Speaker 4>guns out, arrest him and his nurse, strow him in jail,

840
00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:21.960
<v Speaker 4>and then terminate his medical license for giving someone Apricot derivatives.

841
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:25.280
<v Speaker 4>What is the matter with these people? You know, I

842
00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:29.880
<v Speaker 4>mean you'd think they go you know, let's ignore them.

843
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:33.760
<v Speaker 4>I mean, if you want to think Apricots cure people, fine,

844
00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:38.679
<v Speaker 4>but no, they went to war. And the reason they

845
00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:42.599
<v Speaker 4>went to war, they also went to war with Rife,

846
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:47.760
<v Speaker 4>Royal Rife, the same thing, the Rife microscope, the way

847
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:52.519
<v Speaker 4>he that San Diego Tribune wrote the article and said,

848
00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:55.960
<v Speaker 4>this guy took eight or nine patients with stage four

849
00:51:56.079 --> 00:51:59.880
<v Speaker 4>cancer and they don't have it anymore. What is doctor

850
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:04.039
<v Speaker 4>Rife doing? They rated his office, took everything he had,

851
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:10.239
<v Speaker 4>terminated his medical license, and unfortunately he died an early death,

852
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:14.159
<v Speaker 4>probably due to alcohol, because they destroyed his life.

853
00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, that is amazing.

854
00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:19.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't get it. I just don't get it. I'm

855
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:23.880
<v Speaker 4>excited about you having this kind of information on your

856
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:29.840
<v Speaker 4>show because you are part of the solution, not the problem.

857
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you, Yeah, we have to. I've just seen

858
00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:34.599
<v Speaker 1>this in so many different ways.

859
00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:34.719
<v Speaker 2>You know.

860
00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:38.199
<v Speaker 1>The first time kind of interesting, you know, Jed Griffin,

861
00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:40.159
<v Speaker 1>you always think about naming of the Federal Reserve. First

862
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:42.519
<v Speaker 1>time I was ever censored was because of a report

863
00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:44.760
<v Speaker 1>that I did on the one hundredth anniversary of the

864
00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Federal Reserve. So they have these systems that are so

865
00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:50.679
<v Speaker 1>vital that they will do anything to anybody who even

866
00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:54.960
<v Speaker 1>criticizes the calls into question what these systems are. And

867
00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:59.000
<v Speaker 1>it truly is amazing how vigorously they protect themselves with

868
00:52:59.079 --> 00:52:59.840
<v Speaker 1>this kind of stuff.

869
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:05.440
<v Speaker 4>Well, I did an interview with doctor Contreras Junior, you know, Francisco.

870
00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:11.239
<v Speaker 4>He's a surgical oncologist, speaks three or four languages fluently.

871
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:15.880
<v Speaker 4>This guy didn't fall off the truck yesterday, and they

872
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:19.360
<v Speaker 4>interviewed me, they interviewed him. We put it on Facebook,

873
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:22.960
<v Speaker 4>we put it on YouTube, and they took it down. Yeah,

874
00:53:23.639 --> 00:53:28.239
<v Speaker 4>this guy said nothing acoustic, didn't make fun of anybody,

875
00:53:29.159 --> 00:53:33.199
<v Speaker 4>nothing like that, and they just took it all down.

876
00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:36.239
<v Speaker 4>This was recently, like a month ago.

877
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

878
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:41.679
<v Speaker 4>And he is a director and founder of the Oasi

879
00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:48.519
<v Speaker 4>Whole Hospital, five story hospital, two operatories, twenty four hour nursing,

880
00:53:48.719 --> 00:53:53.800
<v Speaker 4>private rooms, and they took it down because I was

881
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:54.280
<v Speaker 4>on there.

882
00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:54.679
<v Speaker 2>You know.

883
00:53:58.199 --> 00:54:02.280
<v Speaker 1>It truly is amazing, and they do they do focus

884
00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:05.239
<v Speaker 1>on individuals already, and everybody talks about how they're going

885
00:54:05.320 --> 00:54:09.559
<v Speaker 1>to use a surveillancing control to limit speech and what

886
00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:11.519
<v Speaker 1>people can say and post and all the rest of

887
00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:14.320
<v Speaker 1>this stuff. It's already happening. It's been happening for quite

888
00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:16.639
<v Speaker 1>some time. I mean after they took my stuff down

889
00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:20.119
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube, I put up a Christmas music program of

890
00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:23.239
<v Speaker 1>some Christmas music that I've done on a channel about

891
00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:26.840
<v Speaker 1>a year and a half after that, and they took

892
00:54:26.920 --> 00:54:29.840
<v Speaker 1>that down after six months with no explanation. And so

893
00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:32.800
<v Speaker 1>we put up a few things now on YouTube. I

894
00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:35.239
<v Speaker 1>don't expect that to last very long. We have to

895
00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:38.639
<v Speaker 1>very carefully edit it when we put it up, or

896
00:54:39.079 --> 00:54:41.239
<v Speaker 1>we know they'll all be taken down. But it's just

897
00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:43.639
<v Speaker 1>kind of there as a pointer to the other stuff.

898
00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:43.679
<v Speaker 2>That we do.

899
00:54:43.800 --> 00:54:46.079
<v Speaker 1>But that's where we live now, and it's only going

900
00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:50.079
<v Speaker 1>to get worse because they're focusing so much on how

901
00:54:50.239 --> 00:54:54.440
<v Speaker 1>they can identify people and turn using the internet into

902
00:54:54.880 --> 00:54:57.599
<v Speaker 1>a permission that is granted by them.

903
00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:00.840
<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't know if your viewer know this or not,

904
00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:03.559
<v Speaker 4>but you were kind enough to set up a discount.

905
00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:08.159
<v Speaker 4>May I talk about that briefly. The things that I

906
00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:12.800
<v Speaker 4>took are available, and they are legal as long as

907
00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:16.719
<v Speaker 4>they're purchased as food supplements. That's what we're saying today.

908
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:20.840
<v Speaker 4>And if they log on the r n C store

909
00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:26.360
<v Speaker 4>dot com, r n C like Rick Nancy Charlie store

910
00:55:26.639 --> 00:55:30.679
<v Speaker 4>dot com, they can order anything that they you know,

911
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:36.400
<v Speaker 4>the the enzymes, the B seventeen, the B fifteen, anything

912
00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:41.920
<v Speaker 4>they want. And if they put that I wrote it

913
00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:45.320
<v Speaker 4>down Night k N I G H T, which I yeah,

914
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:48.679
<v Speaker 4>it's your last name. If they put that in at

915
00:55:48.719 --> 00:55:50.360
<v Speaker 4>the end of the order, they'll say do you have

916
00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:53.639
<v Speaker 4>a discount code? I hate those because I never have one.

917
00:55:55.000 --> 00:55:56.760
<v Speaker 1>You got one? Now I have one.

918
00:55:56.840 --> 00:55:59.800
<v Speaker 4>Now if they write Night in there, they'll save ten percent.

919
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:03.840
<v Speaker 4>I don't get it. You don't get that money. That's

920
00:56:03.920 --> 00:56:07.039
<v Speaker 4>for your listeners, that's right, and your viewers. So they

921
00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:10.360
<v Speaker 4>may not know this, but that's a great thing you did.

922
00:56:11.039 --> 00:56:13.199
<v Speaker 4>And you may have to go to rumble with this

923
00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:17.320
<v Speaker 4>because you got Ricky on here today there after me.

924
00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's where we are on rumble Bit, shoot Odyssey.

925
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:23.199
<v Speaker 1>We're on those platforms. Of course, I'm still on Twitter,

926
00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:28.360
<v Speaker 1>but heavily shadow band there and we've verified that. But

927
00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:31.079
<v Speaker 1>that's just the world that we live in. So we

928
00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:32.960
<v Speaker 1>just accept that and we move on and we do

929
00:56:33.039 --> 00:56:35.320
<v Speaker 1>the best that we can. But it truly is an

930
00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:39.440
<v Speaker 1>amazing commentary on our government to the extent that nothing

931
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:42.440
<v Speaker 1>that they do surprises me. If you're gonna let people

932
00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:46.079
<v Speaker 1>get cancer and if you're going to pick their pockets

933
00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:49.320
<v Speaker 1>as they're dying in agony, then I guess you could

934
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:52.320
<v Speaker 1>pretty much do anything right and there's nothing that's taking

935
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:52.880
<v Speaker 1>off the table.

936
00:56:53.559 --> 00:56:59.519
<v Speaker 4>Always just developed an oral be seventeen light bosomal. Oh

937
00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:04.679
<v Speaker 4>and compare this now when I was at the Mayo Clinic.

938
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:07.320
<v Speaker 4>Had I stayed and gotten the chemo and the radiation

939
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:12.519
<v Speaker 4>and what they wanted to do five hundred thousand, six

940
00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:15.559
<v Speaker 4>hundred thousand, you can buy a bottle of this stuff

941
00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:20.360
<v Speaker 4>for three hundred bucks. And that's what's driving them crazy. Yeah,

942
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:27.239
<v Speaker 4>because these integrative alternative guys and women put their life

943
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:29.880
<v Speaker 4>on the line and say, you know, there's other ways

944
00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:35.039
<v Speaker 4>to do this and for a little bit of money,

945
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:39.119
<v Speaker 4>and that's what's cooking the deal, that's what's causing the

946
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:42.639
<v Speaker 4>war out in the streets. But I'm going to fight

947
00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:46.400
<v Speaker 4>that war. I'm going to be vocal like you, and

948
00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:51.559
<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to get shoved around because somebody spoke

949
00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:56.480
<v Speaker 4>up and saved my life fifty one years ago. Yes,

950
00:57:56.840 --> 00:58:00.840
<v Speaker 4>how dare I if somebody's he says, Rick, you had

951
00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:03.440
<v Speaker 4>cancer a long time ago, how'd you get Well, well,

952
00:58:03.719 --> 00:58:05.960
<v Speaker 4>you know, I just took what they asked me to take.

953
00:58:06.079 --> 00:58:10.039
<v Speaker 2>And no, no, no, no, no, no.

954
00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well good for you. Yeah, and we know it's

955
00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:14.599
<v Speaker 1>the money. You're going to know that. It's the love

956
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:17.760
<v Speaker 1>of money. Is Jesus at the root of all evil, right,

957
00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:20.920
<v Speaker 1>And that really is what we see over and over again.

958
00:58:21.639 --> 00:58:24.840
<v Speaker 1>There is so much money involved in that that they

959
00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:27.159
<v Speaker 1>will do very evil things to people. So I appreciate

960
00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:30.400
<v Speaker 1>you putting that out there. People can educate themselves again

961
00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:33.280
<v Speaker 1>if you go to my World Without Cancer dot com.

962
00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:36.760
<v Speaker 1>There's a free book there download and they can find

963
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:39.480
<v Speaker 1>is that where your book there is as well, my.

964
00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:43.280
<v Speaker 4>Book isn't there, but my book is either on RNC

965
00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:49.159
<v Speaker 4>store dot com or it's at B seventeen works dot

966
00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:52.599
<v Speaker 4>com if they fill out that little one page questionnaire

967
00:58:53.280 --> 00:58:56.000
<v Speaker 4>and I'm in a certified no one's going to share

968
00:58:56.119 --> 00:59:00.760
<v Speaker 4>anything that's private, but I'll send them a copy of

969
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:03.480
<v Speaker 4>my book. And it's a fun book. I used to

970
00:59:03.559 --> 00:59:07.000
<v Speaker 4>do stand up comedy and I don't know how funny

971
00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:09.559
<v Speaker 4>cancer is, but what they tried to do to me

972
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:13.079
<v Speaker 4>was funny, and I'm not funny, ha ha funny odd.

973
00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:18.000
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, they can get all that. Even Amazon carries

974
00:59:18.079 --> 00:59:21.159
<v Speaker 4>my book, So you know, we've got a few people

975
00:59:21.239 --> 00:59:25.840
<v Speaker 4>that are still willing to be okay. But yeah, I'm

976
00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:30.280
<v Speaker 4>feeling fine. I'm one hundred and fifty pounds, I'm five nine,

977
00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:34.840
<v Speaker 4>I don't take any prescription drugs. I've never had chemo,

978
00:59:35.480 --> 00:59:39.639
<v Speaker 4>never had radiation, and I've never had a relapse in

979
00:59:39.800 --> 00:59:43.039
<v Speaker 4>fifty one years. And I got that Mayo Clinic letter

980
00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:47.199
<v Speaker 4>that you've read, Improved, that's right, that said I'm not

981
00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:52.079
<v Speaker 4>lying about this, and my slides are preserved in paraffin

982
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:54.800
<v Speaker 4>at the Mayo Clinic because when I wrote them and

983
00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:58.079
<v Speaker 4>told them I was going to sue them, they they

984
00:59:58.159 --> 01:00:02.239
<v Speaker 4>got ready, Oh yeah, we're telling the truth.

985
01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:03.800
<v Speaker 1>That's great, and we're not.

986
01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:09.079
<v Speaker 4>But we're not. I'm not prescribing. I'm not telling people, yes,

987
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:12.840
<v Speaker 4>you can get well. What I'm saying is I got well.

988
01:00:13.800 --> 01:00:17.039
<v Speaker 4>And if that sounds like a good idea, I'm willing

989
01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:19.760
<v Speaker 4>to talk to you about it. And and you know,

990
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:21.159
<v Speaker 4>move the ball down the field.

991
01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:24.000
<v Speaker 1>That's great that you're doing that. It's just a sad

992
01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:27.519
<v Speaker 1>commentary on our government that you have to be so

993
01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:31.079
<v Speaker 1>careful about how you present this information or they will

994
01:00:31.159 --> 01:00:33.960
<v Speaker 1>attack you. I mean that that in and of itself

995
01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:37.519
<v Speaker 1>is just offensive when you look at how they police

996
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:41.880
<v Speaker 1>all this information and you know, call it whatever they

997
01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:44.519
<v Speaker 1>want to call it, but I'm used to that. I Mean,

998
01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:47.880
<v Speaker 1>there's so many different topics that they will cancel you for,

999
01:00:48.039 --> 01:00:50.679
<v Speaker 1>but that is one of the key ones that's there again.

1000
01:00:50.880 --> 01:00:55.840
<v Speaker 1>B seventeen works w O r k S dot com

1001
01:00:56.159 --> 01:01:01.159
<v Speaker 1>and Oasis of Hope dot com and so RNC store

1002
01:01:01.199 --> 01:01:02.840
<v Speaker 1>dot com. And that's where you can use the code

1003
01:01:03.039 --> 01:01:06.800
<v Speaker 1>night to get some books as well as supplements that

1004
01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:08.719
<v Speaker 1>they sell there and get a ten percent discount off

1005
01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:12.239
<v Speaker 1>of that. Thank you so much, Night with A that's right,

1006
01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, Rick. I appreciate your story, and

1007
01:01:16.199 --> 01:01:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that it all worked out for you, and

1008
01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:21.800
<v Speaker 1>it's good. We're glad that you're doing fine. I just

1009
01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:24.440
<v Speaker 1>think back of all the friends and family that I've

1010
01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:26.039
<v Speaker 1>lost to cancer, and.

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01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:31.079
<v Speaker 4>Yes, and my father, my sister came out of acoma.

1012
01:01:31.159 --> 01:01:32.079
<v Speaker 4>What is that about.

1013
01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:34.639
<v Speaker 1>My sister died at the age of fifty with cancer

1014
01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:38.519
<v Speaker 1>and she went to the MD Anderson Clinic and they

1015
01:01:38.599 --> 01:01:42.599
<v Speaker 1>messed her up really bad. It was difficult last couple

1016
01:01:42.639 --> 01:01:45.519
<v Speaker 1>of months of her life, really was. So it's something

1017
01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:48.519
<v Speaker 1>that really hits home in my family and I want

1018
01:01:48.519 --> 01:01:50.400
<v Speaker 1>to get this information out. So thank you so much

1019
01:01:50.440 --> 01:01:51.800
<v Speaker 1>for coming on, Rick. I appreciate it.

1020
01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:55.519
<v Speaker 4>I enjoyed being here and every time you call me,

1021
01:01:55.599 --> 01:01:56.400
<v Speaker 4>I'll come run it.

1022
01:01:56.599 --> 01:01:58.679
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you, have a good day. Thank you

1023
01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:02.440
<v Speaker 1>very much again, Rick Hell and my World Without Cancer

1024
01:02:02.519 --> 01:02:06.239
<v Speaker 1>dot com, B seventeen Works dot com, Oasis of Hope

1025
01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:10.280
<v Speaker 1>dot com, and of course RNC store dot com where

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01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:12.400
<v Speaker 1>you can get some of the things that they talk

1027
01:02:12.480 --> 01:03:51.679
<v Speaker 1>about making sense common Again. You're listening to the David

1028
01:03:51.840 --> 01:04:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Night Show. Well, joining us now is Sasha Paparich, and

1029
01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:08.320
<v Speaker 1>he has an international perspective on the real estate market.

1030
01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:11.039
<v Speaker 1>You know, we have a way that we have here

1031
01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:13.920
<v Speaker 1>in America of buying and selling houses, which is different

1032
01:04:14.039 --> 01:04:16.280
<v Speaker 1>than the rest of the world. We've only seen one

1033
01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:19.960
<v Speaker 1>way for several decades. But even that way is undergoing

1034
01:04:20.280 --> 01:04:23.159
<v Speaker 1>a lot of different changes. We've had major lawsuits between

1035
01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:27.800
<v Speaker 1>brokerages and others fighting each other in court in terms

1036
01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:29.400
<v Speaker 1>of how listings are going to be done, how real

1037
01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:32.000
<v Speaker 1>estate is going to be done, commissions, and things like that.

1038
01:04:32.360 --> 01:04:36.199
<v Speaker 1>Two major lawsuits for the National Association Realators one in

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01:04:36.320 --> 01:04:39.199
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three that was one point eight billion dollars

1040
01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:41.880
<v Speaker 1>and then there was another one for four hundred and

1041
01:04:42.039 --> 01:04:45.480
<v Speaker 1>something million dollars that happened in twenty twenty four. Meanwhile,

1042
01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:47.920
<v Speaker 1>there are lawsuits going back and forth becaming big brokerage

1043
01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:52.719
<v Speaker 1>companies like Remax and a service called Compass that is

1044
01:04:53.079 --> 01:04:56.760
<v Speaker 1>doing exclusive interviews interviews, not interviews, but listings for a

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01:04:56.800 --> 01:04:58.960
<v Speaker 1>short period of time before they put him out for

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01:04:59.159 --> 01:05:02.880
<v Speaker 1>multiple listings, and so that's created a competition between Compass

1047
01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:08.280
<v Speaker 1>and Zilo. So Sasha has a company that is the

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01:05:08.440 --> 01:05:11.239
<v Speaker 1>first international real estate platform. So I thought it'd be

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01:05:11.320 --> 01:05:14.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of interesting to get his perspective on how things

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01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:17.480
<v Speaker 1>are rapidly changing here in the United States as well

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01:05:17.679 --> 01:05:20.440
<v Speaker 1>as what is customary internationally. So joining us now is

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01:05:20.519 --> 01:05:24.519
<v Speaker 1>Sasha Popa Rick, the founder of Mobilium. I guess is

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01:05:24.519 --> 01:05:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the way you pronounced it? Is that correct?

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01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:29.199
<v Speaker 2>Or X? And thank you David, thank you for having

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01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:30.840
<v Speaker 2>me on your podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you for coming on. Yeah, it's kind of interesting.

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01:05:33.039 --> 01:05:35.199
<v Speaker 1>A lot of tech changes are really happening. And I

1058
01:05:35.280 --> 01:05:38.800
<v Speaker 1>think even when we look at the ability of artificial

1059
01:05:38.840 --> 01:05:41.480
<v Speaker 1>intelligence to go through and sort through a large amount

1060
01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:45.840
<v Speaker 1>of data and bring that home and make some sense

1061
01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:49.119
<v Speaker 1>of it or not the point yet where the AI

1062
01:05:49.239 --> 01:05:52.599
<v Speaker 1>agents are really working that well. But theoretically you could

1063
01:05:52.639 --> 01:05:55.320
<v Speaker 1>have an AI agent that would go out and look

1064
01:05:55.480 --> 01:05:57.719
<v Speaker 1>at listings and you tell it you want to be

1065
01:05:57.760 --> 01:05:59.559
<v Speaker 1>in this general area, and you give it some other

1066
01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:03.000
<v Speaker 1>parameter maybe about schools or this or that, and have

1067
01:06:03.199 --> 01:06:05.960
<v Speaker 1>it do a sort through of all the data that's

1068
01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:07.960
<v Speaker 1>out there and present candidates to you. Well, what do

1069
01:06:08.039 --> 01:06:09.519
<v Speaker 1>you think is going to be happening in the real

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01:06:09.639 --> 01:06:10.199
<v Speaker 1>state market?

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01:06:12.039 --> 01:06:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Wow? I mean, I I am. We had this like

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01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:18.800
<v Speaker 2>little little chat before we started it, and you know that.

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01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:23.079
<v Speaker 2>I think that a major thing that's going to happen

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01:06:23.519 --> 01:06:28.119
<v Speaker 2>is that unfortunately or fortunately, agents are going to become

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01:06:28.199 --> 01:06:30.079
<v Speaker 2>more and more obsolete.

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01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:33.719
<v Speaker 1>And you know, human agents, human agents, you be real

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01:06:33.800 --> 01:06:34.400
<v Speaker 1>state agents.

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01:06:34.639 --> 01:06:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely the physical appearance of an agent, because the work

1079
01:06:40.159 --> 01:06:43.519
<v Speaker 2>that agents provide today it's not even as closed what

1080
01:06:43.719 --> 01:06:46.000
<v Speaker 2>was happening ten to fifteen. I'm not even talking about

1081
01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:50.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty years ago. I mean you, as a seller, Let's

1082
01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:53.719
<v Speaker 2>say in two thousands, early two thousands, were hiring an

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01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:58.519
<v Speaker 2>agent who like would go like and break his or

1084
01:06:58.559 --> 01:07:01.719
<v Speaker 2>hers lag and show it in the house and take

1085
01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:06.079
<v Speaker 2>up pictures and do all these documentations, applications, anything for you,

1086
01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:10.960
<v Speaker 2>which was rightfully something that would earn the agent five

1087
01:07:11.039 --> 01:07:13.880
<v Speaker 2>percent of the commission of six percent of commission, depends

1088
01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:18.159
<v Speaker 2>on the area, exactly today's age. I mean, I'm not

1089
01:07:18.360 --> 01:07:21.360
<v Speaker 2>sure what agents are actually doing except being like you know,

1090
01:07:22.199 --> 01:07:27.360
<v Speaker 2>Instagram models. I mean, it's you can say, okay, so

1091
01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:29.159
<v Speaker 2>people are going to look at me now because they

1092
01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:31.119
<v Speaker 2>have tons of friends who are agents and tons of

1093
01:07:31.159 --> 01:07:33.639
<v Speaker 2>friends who are brokers, and I think they already know

1094
01:07:33.800 --> 01:07:39.960
<v Speaker 2>this whole thing. This whole COVID period shook that three

1095
01:07:40.840 --> 01:07:45.599
<v Speaker 2>of four hundred thousand agents in California alone, you know,

1096
01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:49.119
<v Speaker 2>coming down to maybe like only thirty percent of them

1097
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:52.760
<v Speaker 2>actually selling something and you know, because every single agent

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01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:56.400
<v Speaker 2>prior the COVID, prior the interst rates coming to just

1099
01:07:56.480 --> 01:07:59.960
<v Speaker 2>a few percent, and was making two hundred thousand dollars

1100
01:08:00.199 --> 01:08:05.239
<v Speaker 2>a year buying the brand new beamers, buying amazing purses.

1101
01:08:05.400 --> 01:08:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Like if it was a female and it was like

1102
01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:12.079
<v Speaker 2>irritating the neighbor next door who was actually doing something else,

1103
01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:15.920
<v Speaker 2>being a hostess, of being like, you know, a receptionist,

1104
01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:18.159
<v Speaker 2>and then she got neighbors like, oh my god, how

1105
01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:21.359
<v Speaker 2>do you make all this money? It was seller's market

1106
01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:24.920
<v Speaker 2>properties being so left and right, and then they go, look,

1107
01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:27.960
<v Speaker 2>you just go do your test three four months, you

1108
01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:31.479
<v Speaker 2>know whatever, You get your license and join my brokerage,

1109
01:08:31.520 --> 01:08:33.800
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to give you so many deals because

1110
01:08:33.880 --> 01:08:37.399
<v Speaker 2>the market is looking force for buyers, you know, to

1111
01:08:37.600 --> 01:08:42.079
<v Speaker 2>to to accumulate, and everyone was making money when COVID hit.

1112
01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:45.760
<v Speaker 2>After the COVID, the economy is start crushing down all

1113
01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:50.439
<v Speaker 2>these things. Most of the agents fell off and they

1114
01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:53.880
<v Speaker 2>go back to their own roots, back to being hairstylists,

1115
01:08:53.920 --> 01:08:58.720
<v Speaker 2>back to be hosteds, back to be receptionist. Because there

1116
01:08:58.840 --> 01:09:01.319
<v Speaker 2>was nothing on the market. There was no sales, but

1117
01:09:01.520 --> 01:09:04.840
<v Speaker 2>not just that, there was nothing that they could contribute

1118
01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:11.680
<v Speaker 2>towards the helping the industry grow. And I think that

1119
01:09:11.840 --> 01:09:16.039
<v Speaker 2>that era has pushed technology to the truth because every

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01:09:16.119 --> 01:09:19.399
<v Speaker 2>single agent who was sticking to this you know what,

1121
01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:22.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to stick to this thing, they were looking

1122
01:09:22.319 --> 01:09:27.600
<v Speaker 2>for ways how to how to utilize on technology itself

1123
01:09:28.199 --> 01:09:31.560
<v Speaker 2>and how to you know, monetize to make it easier

1124
01:09:31.640 --> 01:09:35.920
<v Speaker 2>for them to sell the property. So ology became its

1125
01:09:36.039 --> 01:09:40.439
<v Speaker 2>own beast, its own entity, its own so to say,

1126
01:09:40.680 --> 01:09:44.760
<v Speaker 2>a being parallel towards the real estate industry. And people

1127
01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:51.039
<v Speaker 2>started slowly adapting towards technology on enormous ways. So technology

1128
01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:55.359
<v Speaker 2>grew up next to the whole market. Now you're coming

1129
01:09:55.479 --> 01:10:00.920
<v Speaker 2>with concepts like compass, compass and refkin, which is an amazing,

1130
01:10:01.159 --> 01:10:06.560
<v Speaker 2>amazing brain of a human. Like he saw that. He

1131
01:10:06.680 --> 01:10:12.840
<v Speaker 2>saw that tech is you know, future, and so did others,

1132
01:10:12.920 --> 01:10:16.479
<v Speaker 2>So did Zilo, so did so is Google right now,

1133
01:10:17.720 --> 01:10:21.199
<v Speaker 2>And it's becoming more and more relevant for you to

1134
01:10:21.520 --> 01:10:28.359
<v Speaker 2>use technology as a tool and making it so accessible

1135
01:10:28.479 --> 01:10:31.119
<v Speaker 2>and so easier to even the agents who are not

1136
01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:37.840
<v Speaker 2>tech savvy to actually utilize the sales. I remember when

1137
01:10:37.960 --> 01:10:40.680
<v Speaker 2>we brought when we build our own tech in a

1138
01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:45.600
<v Speaker 2>early twenty twenties, and I was going and it was

1139
01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:50.000
<v Speaker 2>this blockchain thing and people asking what is blockchain? Crypto

1140
01:10:50.439 --> 01:10:55.479
<v Speaker 2>was on top. Everyone was buying bitcoin, everyone's buying dodgecoin,

1141
01:10:55.720 --> 01:10:58.920
<v Speaker 2>everyone was buying all these coins. Everyone was making money.

1142
01:10:59.520 --> 01:11:03.920
<v Speaker 2>So agents themselves who were not so tech savvy, would

1143
01:11:04.119 --> 01:11:09.680
<v Speaker 2>automatically associate blockchain and all this new technology to bitcoin.

1144
01:11:10.239 --> 01:11:13.520
<v Speaker 2>As long as it was working and bitcoin was rising,

1145
01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:16.880
<v Speaker 2>so to say the crypto was rising, they will they

1146
01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:20.520
<v Speaker 2>were the biggest fan of the tech. The crypto started

1147
01:11:20.600 --> 01:11:24.079
<v Speaker 2>crashing down so much scan was happening, they were like

1148
01:11:24.239 --> 01:11:29.039
<v Speaker 2>then literally eliminating everything that they actually got associated with them.

1149
01:11:30.399 --> 01:11:32.199
<v Speaker 2>They didn't want to deal with this thing that even

1150
01:11:32.439 --> 01:11:37.079
<v Speaker 2>us had to bury, this whole amazing concept of transparency,

1151
01:11:37.239 --> 01:11:41.880
<v Speaker 2>security and transaction on global level and put the agents first,

1152
01:11:41.920 --> 01:11:46.520
<v Speaker 2>the human factor first, which for us actually helped us

1153
01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:51.600
<v Speaker 2>build this franchise. It was actually a blessing in disguise,

1154
01:11:52.239 --> 01:11:56.640
<v Speaker 2>adding human factor and adding you know, these whole agents

1155
01:11:57.000 --> 01:12:01.600
<v Speaker 2>on top of it to make us grow. Now Compas

1156
01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:05.760
<v Speaker 2>sees more in a second, we build something significant. We

1157
01:12:05.880 --> 01:12:11.279
<v Speaker 2>are expanding. We've been through throughout and straightforward to this

1158
01:12:11.760 --> 01:12:14.840
<v Speaker 2>whole real estate winter and crypto winter, and there is

1159
01:12:14.920 --> 01:12:17.520
<v Speaker 2>a light in the end. Of the tunnel. Why do

1160
01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:22.399
<v Speaker 2>we have to now really deal whatever the National Association

1161
01:12:22.680 --> 01:12:27.680
<v Speaker 2>of Realtors NAR is dictating, there is no point there,

1162
01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:33.079
<v Speaker 2>the same way people see MLS as the major platform

1163
01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:37.640
<v Speaker 2>dictating their own ways, and COMPUS said, Hey, I'm going

1164
01:12:37.720 --> 01:12:40.319
<v Speaker 2>to go and do it my own way, and this

1165
01:12:41.279 --> 01:12:44.000
<v Speaker 2>well with NAR, and that's why the lawsuits are start.

1166
01:12:44.359 --> 01:12:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it is kind of interesting you're talking about this.

1167
01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:48.920
<v Speaker 1>What value do they add? And I remember when we

1168
01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:51.760
<v Speaker 1>bought a house in the early eighties and we were

1169
01:12:51.920 --> 01:12:54.399
<v Speaker 1>in Texas. We were buying a house in North Carolina,

1170
01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:57.159
<v Speaker 1>and we had an agent who did what you were

1171
01:12:57.199 --> 01:12:59.840
<v Speaker 1>talking about. They would physically go round to the different

1172
01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:02.359
<v Speaker 1>places and take you know, at the time, they had

1173
01:13:02.920 --> 01:13:06.359
<v Speaker 1>a you know, the early eighties, they had like a

1174
01:13:06.479 --> 01:13:10.520
<v Speaker 1>fax machine that would give them a text description only

1175
01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:13.199
<v Speaker 1>of this property and so they could look at it

1176
01:13:13.199 --> 01:13:15.319
<v Speaker 1>and see how many square feet it was and bedrooms

1177
01:13:15.359 --> 01:13:17.159
<v Speaker 1>and things like that, but they didn't have any way

1178
01:13:17.239 --> 01:13:20.279
<v Speaker 1>to actually transmit pictures. So they would go around and

1179
01:13:20.319 --> 01:13:22.520
<v Speaker 1>take pictures of it. That spend a lot of time

1180
01:13:22.720 --> 01:13:25.039
<v Speaker 1>looking at it and that type of thing, but and

1181
01:13:25.439 --> 01:13:28.680
<v Speaker 1>then narrowing it down, talking to us, narrowing it down,

1182
01:13:28.800 --> 01:13:30.359
<v Speaker 1>and then when we came to visit, they had a

1183
01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:32.920
<v Speaker 1>list of places that we could go look at. But

1184
01:13:33.520 --> 01:13:36.720
<v Speaker 1>since then I've been scratching my head and saying, you know,

1185
01:13:36.960 --> 01:13:39.439
<v Speaker 1>what do I really need an agent for? Because if

1186
01:13:39.479 --> 01:13:42.880
<v Speaker 1>we've got the capability to look at these listings online

1187
01:13:43.039 --> 01:13:45.199
<v Speaker 1>with pictures and all the rest of the stuff, I'm

1188
01:13:45.279 --> 01:13:48.079
<v Speaker 1>doing all the leg work actually fingerwork right looking at

1189
01:13:48.079 --> 01:13:51.279
<v Speaker 1>all these different things with the databases there, and what

1190
01:13:51.640 --> 01:13:54.159
<v Speaker 1>value are the agents really adding to any of that?

1191
01:13:54.359 --> 01:13:57.760
<v Speaker 1>And I think furthermore, when we look at it, probably

1192
01:13:57.920 --> 01:13:59.600
<v Speaker 1>the time is coming where you'd be able, not too

1193
01:13:59.680 --> 01:14:01.760
<v Speaker 1>far off off, somebody's going to put something in and

1194
01:14:01.840 --> 01:14:03.760
<v Speaker 1>let you do a virtual house tour that's going to

1195
01:14:03.800 --> 01:14:06.600
<v Speaker 1>be kind of three dimensional, right, and you won't need

1196
01:14:06.640 --> 01:14:08.640
<v Speaker 1>to physically go there. You get a very good idea

1197
01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:10.399
<v Speaker 1>of it. You'll still want to go probably and kick

1198
01:14:10.439 --> 01:14:15.159
<v Speaker 1>the tires, but being able to get a sense of

1199
01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:17.199
<v Speaker 1>the space and be able to move through it and

1200
01:14:17.319 --> 01:14:19.399
<v Speaker 1>that type of thing, I think that's probably the next

1201
01:14:19.439 --> 01:14:21.399
<v Speaker 1>thing that's coming. So the question, then, you know, is

1202
01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:25.359
<v Speaker 1>what function did these agents bring to it? And I

1203
01:14:25.439 --> 01:14:28.119
<v Speaker 1>think that's a key thing that's there. What you have

1204
01:14:28.359 --> 01:14:31.239
<v Speaker 1>now is an institution that was set up for different

1205
01:14:31.319 --> 01:14:34.239
<v Speaker 1>time when people didn't have that kind of information at

1206
01:14:34.279 --> 01:14:37.119
<v Speaker 1>their fingertips, and it's become an anachronism, I think. And

1207
01:14:37.199 --> 01:14:38.479
<v Speaker 1>so there's going to be a lot of changes. So

1208
01:14:38.920 --> 01:14:41.439
<v Speaker 1>when you look at as an international agency, talk to

1209
01:14:41.520 --> 01:14:44.439
<v Speaker 1>us about how it's different in other countries. In terms

1210
01:14:44.479 --> 01:14:46.600
<v Speaker 1>of the house buying experience in America.

1211
01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:51.119
<v Speaker 2>I think that as you just said, and you know,

1212
01:14:52.319 --> 01:14:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I completely agree with you, an agent had to come

1213
01:14:55.720 --> 01:14:58.880
<v Speaker 2>to you, fill up papers, sign here facts, it'll go

1214
01:14:59.159 --> 01:15:02.079
<v Speaker 2>show you drive year round. Oh my god, my first

1215
01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:05.479
<v Speaker 2>properties in the nineties. Actually I got tired. I got

1216
01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:08.319
<v Speaker 2>tired driving around with an agent who set everything up.

1217
01:15:08.399 --> 01:15:11.319
<v Speaker 2>I couldnot even imagine that I had to deal with

1218
01:15:11.439 --> 01:15:13.239
<v Speaker 2>this thing that I had to deal with a you know,

1219
01:15:13.479 --> 01:15:18.520
<v Speaker 2>seller's with sellers agent with escrivit title because the security

1220
01:15:18.640 --> 01:15:23.720
<v Speaker 2>and transparency through technology did not exist. Today, you sign

1221
01:15:23.800 --> 01:15:26.159
<v Speaker 2>everything with DOCU signed. You don't even have to go

1222
01:15:26.319 --> 01:15:29.159
<v Speaker 2>to notary anymore. There is ro o N, a remote

1223
01:15:29.239 --> 01:15:32.399
<v Speaker 2>online authorization that you and I can now really be

1224
01:15:32.640 --> 01:15:35.840
<v Speaker 2>with a third party notary public through a video call

1225
01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:38.800
<v Speaker 2>and authorize everything so I don't have to leave the house.

1226
01:15:39.319 --> 01:15:42.880
<v Speaker 2>The problem that this thing is still not there. It's

1227
01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:47.239
<v Speaker 2>the getting used to a factor. The same way it

1228
01:15:47.359 --> 01:15:52.239
<v Speaker 2>took you a long time to switch from a cab

1229
01:15:52.399 --> 01:15:55.399
<v Speaker 2>from a taxi into an uber, the same way it

1230
01:15:55.479 --> 01:15:58.560
<v Speaker 2>took you long time to switch from a BlackBerry too.

1231
01:15:58.640 --> 01:16:01.680
<v Speaker 2>An iPhone. You cannot even imagine not having like you know,

1232
01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:05.199
<v Speaker 2>likes to say, like a keyboard two type, like what

1233
01:16:05.399 --> 01:16:09.000
<v Speaker 2>is an iPhone? You were fighting it while technology was

1234
01:16:09.079 --> 01:16:14.399
<v Speaker 2>there and growing it more, people getting comfortable comfortable with

1235
01:16:14.680 --> 01:16:17.079
<v Speaker 2>dealing with their own thing. Now you're going to say,

1236
01:16:17.800 --> 01:16:23.199
<v Speaker 2>is five to six percent commission worth it for an

1237
01:16:23.319 --> 01:16:28.760
<v Speaker 2>agent to collect on a property that's been sold to

1238
01:16:28.840 --> 01:16:33.319
<v Speaker 2>an agent in today's today's age, today's society. Absolutely not,

1239
01:16:34.119 --> 01:16:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not, because most of the work it's already been

1240
01:16:37.680 --> 01:16:42.600
<v Speaker 2>prepared by a seller. If the seller is really wants

1241
01:16:42.640 --> 01:16:46.439
<v Speaker 2>to put some effort, they can deal with watch may

1242
01:16:46.520 --> 01:16:51.399
<v Speaker 2>call it with title company, they can deal with with ASCRO,

1243
01:16:51.560 --> 01:16:53.560
<v Speaker 2>they can deal with an inspection. There is still this

1244
01:16:54.359 --> 01:17:00.760
<v Speaker 2>securing concept of a buyer not trusting the seller because

1245
01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:04.720
<v Speaker 2>it's not like you're buying something from your brother next door.

1246
01:17:05.479 --> 01:17:07.880
<v Speaker 2>You're buying through someone that do know. So that's why

1247
01:17:07.920 --> 01:17:12.039
<v Speaker 2>they're using these brokerages. Because brokerage is so to say,

1248
01:17:12.199 --> 01:17:16.279
<v Speaker 2>someone who guarantees that the process, that the legitimacy of

1249
01:17:16.359 --> 01:17:19.199
<v Speaker 2>the process is going to be completed, right, And that's

1250
01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:22.159
<v Speaker 2>when the seller and buyers are needing a third party.

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<v Speaker 2>Generally speaking, if I will meet you now and we

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01:17:25.159 --> 01:17:27.159
<v Speaker 2>put something on a paper and it's like, okay, let's

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01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:29.960
<v Speaker 2>just be honest with each other, let's go through inspection together.

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01:17:30.079 --> 01:17:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Let's go through this together. We both can buy past

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01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:35.880
<v Speaker 2>five six percent commission. The only thing that's needed here

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01:17:36.079 --> 01:17:39.039
<v Speaker 2>is an escro, which is something that like until we

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01:17:39.159 --> 01:17:42.520
<v Speaker 2>submit all the paperwork is the main factor of holding

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01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:47.479
<v Speaker 2>the this transaction and the money agents. What I'm seeing

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01:17:47.560 --> 01:17:51.560
<v Speaker 2>where agents are needed. It's like in an art business.

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01:17:52.399 --> 01:17:56.479
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's easy for you to sell an emerging

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01:17:56.720 --> 01:18:02.039
<v Speaker 2>artists painting who now your show can showcase it. Look

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01:18:02.119 --> 01:18:04.720
<v Speaker 2>what it would I have go to one of these

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01:18:04.800 --> 01:18:08.000
<v Speaker 2>platforms and buy it, and you say, okay, great. When

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01:18:08.079 --> 01:18:10.840
<v Speaker 2>you are coming to a like Picassos, when you are

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01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:15.039
<v Speaker 2>coming to a Frida Carlos or Pollocks or those those

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01:18:15.359 --> 01:18:19.560
<v Speaker 2>really abstract or like very expensive collectors artists there worth

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01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:24.039
<v Speaker 2>millions and millions of dollars. You need millions of dollars

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01:18:24.399 --> 01:18:29.479
<v Speaker 2>equivalent buyers. Those guys they don't sit around, they don't

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01:18:29.479 --> 01:18:33.880
<v Speaker 2>look through zilo. They do not actually just you know,

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01:18:34.399 --> 01:18:39.119
<v Speaker 2>knock on doors. They need specific group of agents who

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01:18:39.199 --> 01:18:44.439
<v Speaker 2>are having buyers catalogs, who are having seller's catalogs, because

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01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:48.760
<v Speaker 2>these people have enough money to actually not deal with agents.

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<v Speaker 2>And when a ten million dollar property with five percent

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01:18:53.199 --> 01:18:59.119
<v Speaker 2>commission costs half a million dollars out of a seller's pocket,

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01:18:59.840 --> 01:19:03.079
<v Speaker 2>it makes sense because the sale of a ten million

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01:19:03.159 --> 01:19:07.760
<v Speaker 2>or twenty million dollar mention was done faster. These individuals

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01:19:07.960 --> 01:19:12.800
<v Speaker 2>may always need some agents. But if I have a

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01:19:12.920 --> 01:19:17.000
<v Speaker 2>four hundred thousand dollars condo in I don't know, call

1279
01:19:17.039 --> 01:19:20.359
<v Speaker 2>it like Phoenix, Arizona. You know, I don't know why

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01:19:20.399 --> 01:19:22.720
<v Speaker 2>I need an agent for what is agent's going to do?

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01:19:22.880 --> 01:19:26.479
<v Speaker 2>The place is on the market. It's nothing as stravagant.

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01:19:26.560 --> 01:19:28.520
<v Speaker 2>As long as you get yourself alone and you can

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01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:31.039
<v Speaker 2>tell me that you're a proof of funds, I'm there

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01:19:31.199 --> 01:19:34.319
<v Speaker 2>to close the deal and to save us twenty grand.

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01:19:34.680 --> 01:19:37.159
<v Speaker 2>Why not? So those are the thing that I'm seeing

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01:19:37.319 --> 01:19:41.479
<v Speaker 2>agents being still part of some society down the road,

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01:19:42.239 --> 01:19:46.079
<v Speaker 2>versus like being associated with every single property on the market.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when you're talking about the high end properties that

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01:19:48.439 --> 01:19:50.560
<v Speaker 1>it reminds me when I've been to Jackson Hall. I

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01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:54.760
<v Speaker 1>see the real estate dealers that are there, places like Sothaby's,

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01:19:54.840 --> 01:19:57.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, because you think of as a fine art

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01:19:57.720 --> 01:20:01.520
<v Speaker 1>auction house and because the property are so expensive, that's

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01:20:01.720 --> 01:20:04.600
<v Speaker 1>that's what they're doing. And actually using the analogy that

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01:20:04.680 --> 01:20:06.720
<v Speaker 1>you did, that you got somebody that is going to

1295
01:20:06.800 --> 01:20:10.319
<v Speaker 1>be connected to the very wealthy people who pay that

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01:20:10.439 --> 01:20:13.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of money for a home there in Jackson Holls.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you with that, but in terms of

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01:20:16.119 --> 01:20:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the bread and butter stuff that is out there, the

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01:20:18.039 --> 01:20:21.600
<v Speaker 1>ordinary size homes, it's it's a huge commission to pay

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01:20:22.039 --> 01:20:24.159
<v Speaker 1>when there's not a lot of services that are being

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01:20:24.199 --> 01:20:30.560
<v Speaker 1>provided there. So tell us a little bit about your

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01:20:31.239 --> 01:20:36.039
<v Speaker 1>international real estate platform and how is that different than

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01:20:36.279 --> 01:20:41.079
<v Speaker 1>what we see that's out there right now? Have we

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01:20:41.199 --> 01:20:48.359
<v Speaker 1>lost him? Yeah? Okay, let's trying to reconnect. I think

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01:20:48.920 --> 01:20:52.039
<v Speaker 1>we've so we did. Yeah, that's right, Okay, we're back. Now.

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01:20:52.479 --> 01:20:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Let's say I said, so, tell us a little bit

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01:20:55.920 --> 01:21:00.640
<v Speaker 1>about your platform, Mobilium and it's the first international real

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01:21:00.760 --> 01:21:03.319
<v Speaker 1>estate platform. How does that operate that's different from what

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01:21:03.800 --> 01:21:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Americans are used to saying through real estate dot Com

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01:21:07.399 --> 01:21:09.399
<v Speaker 1>and Zillow and their local agents.

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01:21:10.760 --> 01:21:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Well as an American real estate industry, you're always kind

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01:21:17.600 --> 01:21:21.439
<v Speaker 2>of associate what's in your backyard, what's close to you.

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01:21:21.960 --> 01:21:24.079
<v Speaker 2>You know, I have friends of mine who I'm trying

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01:21:24.159 --> 01:21:29.159
<v Speaker 2>to sway over to buy amazing properties in like you know, Spain,

1315
01:21:29.399 --> 01:21:34.119
<v Speaker 2>in Greece, even Africa, to buy, you know, South America,

1316
01:21:34.680 --> 01:21:38.960
<v Speaker 2>amazing deals. Now with Maduro Gone in Venezuela, there are

1317
01:21:39.039 --> 01:21:41.319
<v Speaker 2>so many deals over there, and we all know that

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01:21:41.560 --> 01:21:45.760
<v Speaker 2>that Venezuela potentially where we have our operation, it's at

1319
01:21:45.800 --> 01:21:47.720
<v Speaker 2>one point is going to be probably like the most

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01:21:47.800 --> 01:21:51.920
<v Speaker 2>proper as prosperous country in South America. But like now

1321
01:21:52.039 --> 01:21:55.159
<v Speaker 2>convincing you, David to tell you, hey, why don't you

1322
01:21:55.279 --> 01:22:01.319
<v Speaker 2>buy a ten million dollar hotel in Isla Margaia, Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 2>You would tell me in Sasha, this is all great,

1324
01:22:04.680 --> 01:22:08.680
<v Speaker 2>but I do not know anything about that area. And

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01:22:08.800 --> 01:22:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I tell you you, you're gonna make three times the

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01:22:11.039 --> 01:22:15.039
<v Speaker 2>money what you're gonna make in Los Angeles because national

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01:22:15.279 --> 01:22:18.600
<v Speaker 2>like increase in properties in California it's like ten percent

1328
01:22:18.760 --> 01:22:22.319
<v Speaker 2>versus let's say, what's happening overseas. You're gonna tell me, Sasha,

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01:22:22.960 --> 01:22:26.000
<v Speaker 2>I like my ten percent because I don't know the law,

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01:22:26.159 --> 01:22:29.640
<v Speaker 2>the rules are regulations or anything like that, versus something

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01:22:29.720 --> 01:22:33.800
<v Speaker 2>that could be overseas. Now this is coming from someone

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01:22:33.880 --> 01:22:39.800
<v Speaker 2>who is more stationary, located in the areas of your

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01:22:39.960 --> 01:22:46.399
<v Speaker 2>own so to say, a vicinity. But major companies, major investors,

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01:22:46.560 --> 01:22:49.520
<v Speaker 2>they don't buy anything in local they want to it's

1335
01:22:49.560 --> 01:22:53.680
<v Speaker 2>already over exaggerating. They wanted to actually buy something that's

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01:22:54.319 --> 01:22:57.199
<v Speaker 2>thirty cents on a dollar. And those are the guys

1337
01:22:57.319 --> 01:23:02.359
<v Speaker 2>that actually use us, or like any other major international franchise,

1338
01:23:02.520 --> 01:23:06.680
<v Speaker 2>is to purchase properties in you know, Saint Lucia, or

1339
01:23:06.760 --> 01:23:11.720
<v Speaker 2>purchase properties in different other countries with security, a transparency.

1340
01:23:12.359 --> 01:23:17.520
<v Speaker 2>So what we did we actually created technology that allows

1341
01:23:17.920 --> 01:23:22.239
<v Speaker 2>all this transaction to happen, connecting with the banking systems,

1342
01:23:22.760 --> 01:23:26.119
<v Speaker 2>connecting with converting crypto into a fiat. That's a major

1343
01:23:26.199 --> 01:23:31.640
<v Speaker 2>concept that some countries still do not accept you crypto payments,

1344
01:23:31.760 --> 01:23:34.920
<v Speaker 2>So we are converting them and you know, sending fiat

1345
01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:38.399
<v Speaker 2>which means dollars or euros into those countries. And of

1346
01:23:38.560 --> 01:23:44.119
<v Speaker 2>course securities. You know here you have in America almost

1347
01:23:44.159 --> 01:23:48.800
<v Speaker 2>by default inspection titles. We say like escrow in other

1348
01:23:48.920 --> 01:23:52.079
<v Speaker 2>countries you don't. So for you to just go and

1349
01:23:52.199 --> 01:23:56.319
<v Speaker 2>buy something in other countries, it's like a risk that

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01:23:56.520 --> 01:24:00.319
<v Speaker 2>you are taking unless you have somewhere there on around

1351
01:24:00.520 --> 01:24:03.479
<v Speaker 2>doing that leg work for you, doing this security for you.

1352
01:24:04.239 --> 01:24:08.600
<v Speaker 2>And what we actually have done we have so far

1353
01:24:08.640 --> 01:24:12.840
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and two global locations in sixty countries. So

1354
01:24:13.039 --> 01:24:19.840
<v Speaker 2>we syndicated boutique brokerages to be under our umbrella, to

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01:24:19.920 --> 01:24:24.560
<v Speaker 2>be under our franchise. We still gave them and we

1356
01:24:24.640 --> 01:24:28.439
<v Speaker 2>still told them to keep their own identity. That's another

1357
01:24:28.560 --> 01:24:31.079
<v Speaker 2>aspect of international way of thinking, Oh, you're going to

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01:24:31.159 --> 01:24:33.800
<v Speaker 2>come here as a predator, you're going to take my

1359
01:24:33.960 --> 01:24:38.399
<v Speaker 2>name away. It's not Travis Knight war now it's Remax.

1360
01:24:38.479 --> 01:24:40.560
<v Speaker 2>So we said, no, no, no, how about it's still

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01:24:40.640 --> 01:24:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Travis Knight And we just give you the roof over

1362
01:24:42.840 --> 01:24:46.760
<v Speaker 2>your head and technology to make you're more transparent to

1363
01:24:46.880 --> 01:24:50.079
<v Speaker 2>international buyers. And then you say, okay, great, I'm happy

1364
01:24:50.079 --> 01:24:53.199
<v Speaker 2>about that. Like it's it's a sensitive concept. But what

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01:24:53.279 --> 01:24:57.079
<v Speaker 2>we're doing, we are not just catering to an American

1366
01:24:57.520 --> 01:25:01.560
<v Speaker 2>buying something in Malta. What we are doing we are

1367
01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:08.239
<v Speaker 2>focusing or where the diaspora, the immigration is like focusing

1368
01:25:08.319 --> 01:25:13.680
<v Speaker 2>to access those centers. Well, let's say there is half

1369
01:25:13.720 --> 01:25:17.479
<v Speaker 2>a million Greeks living in Chicago, so pretty much they're

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01:25:17.520 --> 01:25:20.439
<v Speaker 2>going to be ninety nine percent buyers of the Greek

1371
01:25:20.520 --> 01:25:23.439
<v Speaker 2>properties in Greek islands or something like that. We're not

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01:25:23.560 --> 01:25:26.520
<v Speaker 2>going to force feed some American telling you buy this

1373
01:25:26.720 --> 01:25:29.319
<v Speaker 2>thing in artists. We're going to go to Greek communities.

1374
01:25:29.800 --> 01:25:32.720
<v Speaker 2>We're going to go to Grec cultural centers and say hey,

1375
01:25:33.199 --> 01:25:36.279
<v Speaker 2>we are here to help you buy something from back home,

1376
01:25:36.640 --> 01:25:41.399
<v Speaker 2>because eventually you may just go back, immigrate, retire, and

1377
01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:45.239
<v Speaker 2>be where you came from. And by starting that, we

1378
01:25:45.439 --> 01:25:49.520
<v Speaker 2>open those those doors, those pipelines where now even an

1379
01:25:49.560 --> 01:25:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Americans who have nothing to do with let's say Greece

1380
01:25:53.319 --> 01:25:57.520
<v Speaker 2>in general as an example, are willing to purchase properties there.

1381
01:25:58.000 --> 01:26:05.479
<v Speaker 2>And why because there's many incentives buying let's say properties

1382
01:26:05.520 --> 01:26:11.640
<v Speaker 2>in Europe. You can actually secure yourself an EU residency

1383
01:26:11.880 --> 01:26:16.000
<v Speaker 2>European residency by buying a two hundred and fifty thousand

1384
01:26:16.079 --> 01:26:21.079
<v Speaker 2>euros property or piece of real estate in Greece, and

1385
01:26:21.479 --> 01:26:25.079
<v Speaker 2>it gives you something which is called Golden visa, which

1386
01:26:25.159 --> 01:26:29.039
<v Speaker 2>is equivalent to like a green car in America, allows

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01:26:29.119 --> 01:26:31.840
<v Speaker 2>you to stay in Greece and it's a first step

1388
01:26:32.039 --> 01:26:35.840
<v Speaker 2>for you to become potentially a passport of European Union

1389
01:26:36.319 --> 01:26:41.319
<v Speaker 2>and immigrate over there. Other countries have similar concepts, similar

1390
01:26:41.520 --> 01:26:46.520
<v Speaker 2>plants like Malta, Portugal, Hungary, and so they're actually doing

1391
01:26:46.600 --> 01:26:49.640
<v Speaker 2>exactly the same that what America is doing and come here,

1392
01:26:49.760 --> 01:26:53.119
<v Speaker 2>invests money, stay here. Now they say, hey, why don't

1393
01:26:53.119 --> 01:26:55.880
<v Speaker 2>you move to Europe. You've been tired of American way

1394
01:26:55.960 --> 01:26:59.239
<v Speaker 2>of life, you know, immigrate over here and you can

1395
01:26:59.319 --> 01:27:02.199
<v Speaker 2>travel to you And so those are the ways that

1396
01:27:02.359 --> 01:27:05.920
<v Speaker 2>we have set up not just through Europe, in America,

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01:27:07.199 --> 01:27:10.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, Africa as well, and a bunch of other areas.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, Yeah, that's that's kind of interesting. You know.

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01:27:13.119 --> 01:27:17.079
<v Speaker 1>Years ago, I remember John Davidson, who was with a

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01:27:17.199 --> 01:27:19.359
<v Speaker 1>National taxpayers union. One of the things he was saying was,

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01:27:19.840 --> 01:27:21.600
<v Speaker 1>you want to try to make sure you got what

1402
01:27:21.720 --> 01:27:26.079
<v Speaker 1>he called residential ambiguity. You know, am I really I

1403
01:27:26.199 --> 01:27:29.199
<v Speaker 1>have a footprint in several different countries. And he looked

1404
01:27:29.199 --> 01:27:31.520
<v Speaker 1>at it as a way of kind of keeping your

1405
01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:33.560
<v Speaker 1>foot in the door for freedom. You know, if it

1406
01:27:33.640 --> 01:27:35.319
<v Speaker 1>gets really bad in one area, you can get out.

1407
01:27:35.319 --> 01:27:37.159
<v Speaker 1>Of course, we've had a lot of people who have

1408
01:27:37.399 --> 01:27:40.079
<v Speaker 1>emigrated out of the United States because of things that

1409
01:27:40.159 --> 01:27:44.079
<v Speaker 1>they see happening here. Speaking of international situations, just as

1410
01:27:44.119 --> 01:27:46.439
<v Speaker 1>kind of an aside. I know this wasn't what you

1411
01:27:46.520 --> 01:27:49.279
<v Speaker 1>came on to talk about, but let's talk a little

1412
01:27:49.319 --> 01:27:51.680
<v Speaker 1>bit about Venezuela. Can you kind of give us a

1413
01:27:53.319 --> 01:27:55.800
<v Speaker 1>temperature reading as to what's going on there? How are

1414
01:27:55.840 --> 01:27:59.520
<v Speaker 1>people reacting to the situation that's happened after Maduro has

1415
01:27:59.560 --> 01:28:00.319
<v Speaker 1>been taken out.

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01:28:02.039 --> 01:28:08.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm a dreamer. I'm a visionaire. I'm delusion. That's

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01:28:08.039 --> 01:28:10.560
<v Speaker 2>why I actually build my businesses like I just go

1418
01:28:10.720 --> 01:28:13.520
<v Speaker 2>and say, you know, whatever the hell kind of stays around.

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01:28:13.560 --> 01:28:17.039
<v Speaker 2>I have a good friend of mine. He his name

1420
01:28:17.159 --> 01:28:19.119
<v Speaker 2>is you know, he's one of the lawyer. I'm not

1421
01:28:19.119 --> 01:28:21.560
<v Speaker 2>going to mention it, but top lawyer in La and

1422
01:28:23.239 --> 01:28:26.159
<v Speaker 2>I was visiting in once and he is like in

1423
01:28:26.279 --> 01:28:29.760
<v Speaker 2>downtown and like probably like the whole building of lawyers,

1424
01:28:29.800 --> 01:28:34.119
<v Speaker 2>like sixty seventy lawyers, and they take like every case

1425
01:28:34.319 --> 01:28:38.359
<v Speaker 2>that comes towards them. And I go to him, Mark, Okay,

1426
01:28:38.399 --> 01:28:41.039
<v Speaker 2>well the cat is out of backs, and Mark, why

1427
01:28:41.119 --> 01:28:44.800
<v Speaker 2>all that? He goes Sasha, I throw everything against the wall,

1428
01:28:44.840 --> 01:28:48.399
<v Speaker 2>whatever it sticks, and you know that's actually kind of

1429
01:28:48.439 --> 01:28:51.079
<v Speaker 2>worths building. All my business, is all my life. But

1430
01:28:51.880 --> 01:28:54.920
<v Speaker 2>to jump to Venezuela. We went there when no one

1431
01:28:54.960 --> 01:28:59.920
<v Speaker 2>else did because I realized there's no competition. We went

1432
01:29:00.079 --> 01:29:03.479
<v Speaker 2>into Africa where everyone else is going out, and now

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01:29:03.600 --> 01:29:06.439
<v Speaker 2>I think we are the biggest Africa. Work were in

1434
01:29:06.560 --> 01:29:10.640
<v Speaker 2>sixteen countries, so so are we already positioned in Greenland?

1435
01:29:10.760 --> 01:29:13.439
<v Speaker 2>So we are already in Ukraine. When the war started,

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01:29:13.600 --> 01:29:16.279
<v Speaker 2>we went in Ukraine, we opened for locations. We know

1437
01:29:16.439 --> 01:29:18.239
<v Speaker 2>that that war is going to stop one day and

1438
01:29:18.319 --> 01:29:22.640
<v Speaker 2>we're going to have a position. Whennezuela was always controversial

1439
01:29:22.760 --> 01:29:27.239
<v Speaker 2>for us, and as you know, hopeful I was, I

1440
01:29:27.359 --> 01:29:29.640
<v Speaker 2>knew that I had to be pragmatic. I have to

1441
01:29:29.720 --> 01:29:33.880
<v Speaker 2>be realistic. What's the downsize and what's the downfall of

1442
01:29:34.159 --> 01:29:36.520
<v Speaker 2>things don't work out? And I saw that like we

1443
01:29:36.640 --> 01:29:39.039
<v Speaker 2>didn't do anything legal. We're just a real estate company,

1444
01:29:39.159 --> 01:29:41.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, being positioned there. But we knew that the

1445
01:29:41.760 --> 01:29:46.560
<v Speaker 2>population of Venezuela, that the whole, that the whole that

1446
01:29:46.840 --> 01:29:50.319
<v Speaker 2>area there, they needed an open door, they need to

1447
01:29:50.359 --> 01:29:54.079
<v Speaker 2>open gates needed. And I think that Baduro in general

1448
01:29:54.399 --> 01:29:57.159
<v Speaker 2>was more simpole than anything else. I don't think that

1449
01:29:57.239 --> 01:30:01.239
<v Speaker 2>he was a flexing muscles or or something like that,

1450
01:30:02.119 --> 01:30:05.520
<v Speaker 2>and the moment. You know, even prior to Maduros, we

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01:30:05.560 --> 01:30:08.600
<v Speaker 2>had deals that we were offering to people. They were scared.

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01:30:09.199 --> 01:30:12.239
<v Speaker 2>No one like one of my partners who's actually team

1453
01:30:12.279 --> 01:30:14.199
<v Speaker 2>a US citizen and he's like, Jude, you have to

1454
01:30:14.279 --> 01:30:16.239
<v Speaker 2>go there, and like do somethings. No, No, I'm scared.

1455
01:30:16.359 --> 01:30:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get arrested. It's like nobody's going to

1456
01:30:18.079 --> 01:30:22.079
<v Speaker 2>arrestue man. Nobody cares trust me. But people were scared

1457
01:30:22.439 --> 01:30:26.600
<v Speaker 2>and they didn't want even look at at Venezuela as

1458
01:30:26.720 --> 01:30:31.760
<v Speaker 2>a vision and not even buy something. Now things have changed,

1459
01:30:32.359 --> 01:30:38.039
<v Speaker 2>so we have requests for land purchases. People are asking

1460
01:30:38.199 --> 01:30:42.640
<v Speaker 2>us where exactly the you know, oil revenees are when

1461
01:30:42.680 --> 01:30:46.239
<v Speaker 2>it comes to Venezuela. This area is going, this is

1462
01:30:46.319 --> 01:30:49.920
<v Speaker 2>it's that's it. It's stabilizing. It's going to become probably

1463
01:30:50.000 --> 01:30:53.920
<v Speaker 2>the most prosperous market in South America. It's going to dominate.

1464
01:30:54.760 --> 01:30:56.680
<v Speaker 2>You know. Some people say, you know, I missed my

1465
01:30:56.880 --> 01:31:01.520
<v Speaker 2>chance with Al Salvador and I want to mess with

1466
01:31:01.720 --> 01:31:05.479
<v Speaker 2>Venezuela because it's a prior that everyone was scared of

1467
01:31:05.600 --> 01:31:08.960
<v Speaker 2>those areas. So they say it's a Salvador, Panama. That

1468
01:31:09.720 --> 01:31:11.840
<v Speaker 2>those are the kind of like you know, tunnels they're

1469
01:31:11.880 --> 01:31:13.760
<v Speaker 2>building when it comes to wealth, when it comes to

1470
01:31:14.119 --> 01:31:17.560
<v Speaker 2>money making, and of course in its real estate. So

1471
01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:21.399
<v Speaker 2>most of people are not approaching us even still, they're

1472
01:31:21.439 --> 01:31:25.760
<v Speaker 2>like very candidly looking and cautiously looking at this area.

1473
01:31:26.439 --> 01:31:30.680
<v Speaker 2>But the smart investors are asking us about land purchases,

1474
01:31:31.279 --> 01:31:38.239
<v Speaker 2>commercial real estate purchases, hotels, anything that has a potential

1475
01:31:38.479 --> 01:31:42.960
<v Speaker 2>of accommodating the new way of so to say, migration.

1476
01:31:43.760 --> 01:31:47.800
<v Speaker 2>And who are the first in that line? Are exactly

1477
01:31:47.920 --> 01:31:51.520
<v Speaker 2>the industries that are going to participate the most. That's

1478
01:31:51.560 --> 01:31:55.680
<v Speaker 2>the oil industries, so that's required. It's close to the

1479
01:31:56.199 --> 01:32:03.880
<v Speaker 2>oil raffinerees oil like drilling drilling positions. Then the lands

1480
01:32:04.359 --> 01:32:07.760
<v Speaker 2>that are available to purchasing, you know, to build hotels,

1481
01:32:08.399 --> 01:32:13.640
<v Speaker 2>to build like pretty much like you know, housings for

1482
01:32:14.119 --> 01:32:17.760
<v Speaker 2>the first tier of immigrants who are going to be

1483
01:32:17.840 --> 01:32:23.159
<v Speaker 2>the workers for all these big oil companies next to

1484
01:32:23.279 --> 01:32:26.880
<v Speaker 2>it are now more and more interest not as kak

1485
01:32:26.920 --> 01:32:30.199
<v Speaker 2>as itself. I don't think that that area has any

1486
01:32:30.239 --> 01:32:34.520
<v Speaker 2>appealing concept unless you are bringing some business headquarters. But

1487
01:32:34.680 --> 01:32:37.960
<v Speaker 2>from a residential point of view, people are feeling more

1488
01:32:37.960 --> 01:32:41.640
<v Speaker 2>and more now confident looking into you know, islands there

1489
01:32:41.800 --> 01:32:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Venezuela and like Isla Margharita. It's between Kurasau and I

1490
01:32:47.039 --> 01:32:52.119
<v Speaker 2>see and I think Arubau these areas and because those

1491
01:32:52.199 --> 01:32:55.600
<v Speaker 2>are deals there that could be now turned into airbnbs,

1492
01:32:56.399 --> 01:33:00.439
<v Speaker 2>everything that Whene Souel I was missing for all these years,

1493
01:33:01.039 --> 01:33:03.920
<v Speaker 2>it's shifting down there. From a business.

1494
01:33:03.640 --> 01:33:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Perspective, Yeah, that was the amazing thing about Venezuela, by

1495
01:33:06.399 --> 01:33:09.079
<v Speaker 1>talking about the tremendous natural resources that they had and

1496
01:33:09.119 --> 01:33:11.640
<v Speaker 1>why this should be one of the wealthiest countries on Earth,

1497
01:33:12.000 --> 01:33:14.680
<v Speaker 1>and yet because of politics and other things like that,

1498
01:33:14.880 --> 01:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>it really kept that from happening. So what you're doing

1499
01:33:17.960 --> 01:33:21.560
<v Speaker 1>is you're helping people to identify I guess we could

1500
01:33:21.600 --> 01:33:25.520
<v Speaker 1>say fixer upper economies that are there, not just a

1501
01:33:25.600 --> 01:33:29.520
<v Speaker 1>particular house in a particular neighborhood, but seeing where there's

1502
01:33:29.840 --> 01:33:33.399
<v Speaker 1>a region that is poised to really grow. I guess

1503
01:33:33.880 --> 01:33:37.199
<v Speaker 1>how would you advise people in terms of investing in

1504
01:33:37.319 --> 01:33:39.239
<v Speaker 1>real estate, especially internationally.

1505
01:33:40.520 --> 01:33:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean not that I'm trying to put myself

1506
01:33:43.600 --> 01:33:46.319
<v Speaker 2>first in this game, absolutely not. I see that we

1507
01:33:46.439 --> 01:33:48.439
<v Speaker 2>are in the beginning stage of what we are going

1508
01:33:48.479 --> 01:33:51.439
<v Speaker 2>to be, especially with technology that you mentioned and you

1509
01:33:51.600 --> 01:33:54.960
<v Speaker 2>mentioned how AI now kind of can give you the

1510
01:33:55.079 --> 01:33:59.680
<v Speaker 2>whole scenario. And I was associating with this company that

1511
01:34:00.279 --> 01:34:04.079
<v Speaker 2>are Canadians and they moved to Dominican Republic and they

1512
01:34:04.159 --> 01:34:08.199
<v Speaker 2>built the software even four years ago that I was

1513
01:34:08.359 --> 01:34:12.119
<v Speaker 2>just starting and they were literally there, Rea isn't They

1514
01:34:12.199 --> 01:34:16.680
<v Speaker 2>did it because Dominican Republic has the biggest influx of

1515
01:34:16.800 --> 01:34:20.319
<v Speaker 2>Canadian immigrants. They live in Canada moving to the Medical

1516
01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Republic because it's one of the biggest economies in this

1517
01:34:23.880 --> 01:34:28.359
<v Speaker 2>whole Caribbean belt. And so they didn't know where to move.

1518
01:34:28.880 --> 01:34:31.640
<v Speaker 2>So they created the software in house, those couple of

1519
01:34:31.800 --> 01:34:34.840
<v Speaker 2>couple of programmers and they said, hey, I want to

1520
01:34:34.880 --> 01:34:37.760
<v Speaker 2>move to the Medical Republic, but you know, I have

1521
01:34:37.800 --> 01:34:40.880
<v Speaker 2>a father who is eighty years old and he cannot

1522
01:34:40.960 --> 01:34:43.960
<v Speaker 2>walk far enough, and I want to make sure there

1523
01:34:44.039 --> 01:34:46.680
<v Speaker 2>is a bench, you know, in front of the house,

1524
01:34:47.239 --> 01:34:50.319
<v Speaker 2>and sure that like there is no school close to it,

1525
01:34:50.520 --> 01:34:53.800
<v Speaker 2>because schools allowed. So they building software. What it does,

1526
01:34:53.880 --> 01:34:59.720
<v Speaker 2>it's actually searches seven billion points of like photos through

1527
01:34:59.760 --> 01:35:04.039
<v Speaker 2>good map and analyzes every single area where any house

1528
01:35:04.319 --> 01:35:06.560
<v Speaker 2>is for sale. So now when you have like when

1529
01:35:06.560 --> 01:35:08.760
<v Speaker 2>you go to a listing and you see you know,

1530
01:35:08.800 --> 01:35:11.359
<v Speaker 2>all these filters you see like, oh, I want a

1531
01:35:11.479 --> 01:35:15.199
<v Speaker 2>three bedroom house with like two bathrooms and accept dogs,

1532
01:35:15.279 --> 01:35:18.000
<v Speaker 2>and it's close to here and close to there, and

1533
01:35:18.119 --> 01:35:20.039
<v Speaker 2>you can look it on a map, but you don't

1534
01:35:20.039 --> 01:35:21.960
<v Speaker 2>know if there is like traffic light close to it

1535
01:35:22.199 --> 01:35:25.800
<v Speaker 2>or if it has this you know which schools. So

1536
01:35:26.039 --> 01:35:29.079
<v Speaker 2>pretty much you're going there and you see one segment,

1537
01:35:29.199 --> 01:35:31.600
<v Speaker 2>but not three days later it may bother you that

1538
01:35:31.680 --> 01:35:34.119
<v Speaker 2>there is kids there coming out of school every single

1539
01:35:34.239 --> 01:35:36.520
<v Speaker 2>day and you just put just three million of our house.

1540
01:35:36.920 --> 01:35:40.279
<v Speaker 2>So this software, even back then, can pretty much give

1541
01:35:40.319 --> 01:35:43.680
<v Speaker 2>you the whole scenario. You give the whole scenario where

1542
01:35:43.680 --> 01:35:46.840
<v Speaker 2>you should move, then it eliminates all the other listings

1543
01:35:46.920 --> 01:35:50.800
<v Speaker 2>in that area that would actually be a problematic for

1544
01:35:50.960 --> 01:35:55.399
<v Speaker 2>your way of life. Now imagine how far this thing

1545
01:35:55.560 --> 01:35:59.000
<v Speaker 2>is going to go, you know, coming down down the road,

1546
01:35:59.640 --> 01:36:05.399
<v Speaker 2>and that it's just going to help people move abroad.

1547
01:36:06.359 --> 01:36:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Moving award was a taboo, was something scaring, was something

1548
01:36:11.840 --> 01:36:15.600
<v Speaker 2>like I don't know if I make mistakes, we're gonna

1549
01:36:15.600 --> 01:36:20.239
<v Speaker 2>get scammed, absolutely scammed. That was the whole major aspect

1550
01:36:20.279 --> 01:36:23.439
<v Speaker 2>why we build that, And I remember sitting at our

1551
01:36:23.600 --> 01:36:30.000
<v Speaker 2>early stages in twenty twenties in Golden and one of

1552
01:36:30.079 --> 01:36:32.680
<v Speaker 2>the offices in Beverly Hills. We didn't even have an office.

1553
01:36:32.760 --> 01:36:35.199
<v Speaker 2>It was COVID banker's office in Beverly Hills and one

1554
01:36:35.239 --> 01:36:38.039
<v Speaker 2>of our friends was the GM there and he brought

1555
01:36:38.159 --> 01:36:41.359
<v Speaker 2>us there and we had like this thing called AMA

1556
01:36:41.560 --> 01:36:44.720
<v Speaker 2>like ask Me Anything, where people log in from around

1557
01:36:44.800 --> 01:36:48.239
<v Speaker 2>the world and ask us about our platform and about

1558
01:36:48.399 --> 01:36:53.079
<v Speaker 2>our concept and we try to impress who is who

1559
01:36:53.159 --> 01:36:57.399
<v Speaker 2>from the industry. There was like leaders from like Fidelity,

1560
01:36:57.600 --> 01:37:01.199
<v Speaker 2>leaders from like Sotta, the leader from everyone watching us,

1561
01:37:01.840 --> 01:37:05.800
<v Speaker 2>and more and more people were joining with questions. They

1562
01:37:05.840 --> 01:37:10.000
<v Speaker 2>were from Africa, from Nigeria or something like that. So

1563
01:37:10.319 --> 01:37:12.399
<v Speaker 2>I's got to be a biggot and not to take

1564
01:37:12.479 --> 01:37:15.319
<v Speaker 2>that question. So I took you know, one, two, three

1565
01:37:15.439 --> 01:37:18.439
<v Speaker 2>questions and at one point I was like, Okay, this

1566
01:37:18.640 --> 01:37:20.800
<v Speaker 2>is not looking good for me because I was hoping

1567
01:37:20.920 --> 01:37:23.680
<v Speaker 2>someone from London is going to join in and ask

1568
01:37:23.760 --> 01:37:26.319
<v Speaker 2>me how to buy a property in Beverly Hills or

1569
01:37:26.439 --> 01:37:29.479
<v Speaker 2>some talk you or how to buy property and let's

1570
01:37:29.479 --> 01:37:32.920
<v Speaker 2>say like I don't know, like Dubai. So I said,

1571
01:37:32.960 --> 01:37:35.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, let me double down on that. So I

1572
01:37:35.239 --> 01:37:38.600
<v Speaker 2>opened up a conversation with that individual, and the gentleman

1573
01:37:38.720 --> 01:37:42.239
<v Speaker 2>asked me, like, when are you guys going to open

1574
01:37:42.319 --> 01:37:46.840
<v Speaker 2>your location in Lagos, Nigeria. And I'm like, okay, I

1575
01:37:46.880 --> 01:37:49.640
<v Speaker 2>don't even know where that is, you know, so I'm

1576
01:37:49.720 --> 01:37:52.520
<v Speaker 2>googoring while I'm talking. I was like, okay, I say it.

1577
01:37:53.279 --> 01:37:56.239
<v Speaker 2>And I asked him, I'm not sure, sir, we're going

1578
01:37:56.319 --> 01:37:58.680
<v Speaker 2>to look for it. We're just opening now those big

1579
01:37:59.039 --> 01:38:03.760
<v Speaker 2>metropolitan area as Barcelona, this and that. And I asked him,

1580
01:38:03.760 --> 01:38:06.840
<v Speaker 2>but I don't understand how we would make money, and

1581
01:38:06.920 --> 01:38:11.119
<v Speaker 2>then he goes, we do not trust our own family

1582
01:38:12.359 --> 01:38:16.840
<v Speaker 2>sending money to put as a down payment. Imagine sending

1583
01:38:16.920 --> 01:38:20.720
<v Speaker 2>money to an agent who is somewhere there and with

1584
01:38:21.199 --> 01:38:25.119
<v Speaker 2>the idea that it's going to be safe because they

1585
01:38:25.159 --> 01:38:27.720
<v Speaker 2>don't have escrows ound there. They don't have things like

1586
01:38:27.800 --> 01:38:32.239
<v Speaker 2>we have in America, which is beauty of money security.

1587
01:38:32.960 --> 01:38:36.560
<v Speaker 2>And that was this aham moment when I asked him,

1588
01:38:37.319 --> 01:38:40.920
<v Speaker 2>but who is actually buying most of these prices? He goes,

1589
01:38:41.439 --> 01:38:45.279
<v Speaker 2>our immigrants are they aspora who are all over the world,

1590
01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:48.760
<v Speaker 2>And that was just like, you know, run opening a

1591
01:38:48.880 --> 01:38:52.239
<v Speaker 2>door for us, how to position ourselves and how to

1592
01:38:52.399 --> 01:38:57.760
<v Speaker 2>actually assist the buyers. And from that end, everything went

1593
01:38:57.880 --> 01:39:01.239
<v Speaker 2>on the other direction, which means then wet at allocating

1594
01:39:01.399 --> 01:39:06.840
<v Speaker 2>where an American who would love to retire can move

1595
01:39:07.319 --> 01:39:12.479
<v Speaker 2>without any hesitation or any kind of warriors that his

1596
01:39:12.880 --> 01:39:15.840
<v Speaker 2>or her money is going to be stolen, the transaction

1597
01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:19.239
<v Speaker 2>is going to be done. You know that the property

1598
01:39:19.319 --> 01:39:22.600
<v Speaker 2>is going to be as they said, especially for a

1599
01:39:22.680 --> 01:39:26.680
<v Speaker 2>reason of no ascrow, especially a reason that there is

1600
01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:31.000
<v Speaker 2>properties they are not in register like here. As much

1601
01:39:31.039 --> 01:39:36.199
<v Speaker 2>as we complain about nar nar or composts doing one thing,

1602
01:39:36.359 --> 01:39:41.159
<v Speaker 2>or zeal or whatever, are the most secure real estate

1603
01:39:41.600 --> 01:39:46.359
<v Speaker 2>market in the world because real estate in America it's

1604
01:39:46.479 --> 01:39:51.000
<v Speaker 2>commodity in a world. It's something that people go there,

1605
01:39:51.640 --> 01:39:55.319
<v Speaker 2>they buy and they sell people here. No, they're going

1606
01:39:55.399 --> 01:39:59.039
<v Speaker 2>to stick here for next twenty thirty years. They have

1607
01:40:00.399 --> 01:40:03.840
<v Speaker 2>a value. The prices are going to go even if

1608
01:40:03.960 --> 01:40:08.199
<v Speaker 2>inflation is you know, going to eat some of these appreciations.

1609
01:40:08.279 --> 01:40:11.279
<v Speaker 2>So to say it's still going to be valuable twenty

1610
01:40:11.359 --> 01:40:14.720
<v Speaker 2>years later that like your kids can inherit it versus

1611
01:40:15.479 --> 01:40:18.479
<v Speaker 2>in a world when you have to have tons of components,

1612
01:40:18.640 --> 01:40:22.159
<v Speaker 2>they're going to help you out. So we positioned those components,

1613
01:40:22.239 --> 01:40:25.560
<v Speaker 2>we positioned those tools, and we are pretty much the

1614
01:40:25.640 --> 01:40:31.960
<v Speaker 2>most transparent platform and concept around that for any kind

1615
01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:39.960
<v Speaker 2>of purchases, doesn't matter if it's residential, commercial, hotels, casinos, islands,

1616
01:40:40.359 --> 01:40:42.479
<v Speaker 2>name it. We are there to assist.

1617
01:40:44.760 --> 01:40:48.399
<v Speaker 1>Well imagine most Americans, you know, most of us. So

1618
01:40:48.439 --> 01:40:51.760
<v Speaker 1>it's not in the market for a casino that's Trump family,

1619
01:40:51.800 --> 01:40:54.319
<v Speaker 1>I guess, but the most of us are not the

1620
01:40:54.359 --> 01:40:56.920
<v Speaker 1>market for that. But there might still be reasons for

1621
01:40:57.079 --> 01:41:01.039
<v Speaker 1>us to do investment abroad. Of advice would you offer

1622
01:41:01.159 --> 01:41:03.600
<v Speaker 1>for people who are kind of middle class in America?

1623
01:41:05.079 --> 01:41:09.640
<v Speaker 2>There is there's a lot of incentives. Everyone loves Americans,

1624
01:41:09.720 --> 01:41:12.760
<v Speaker 2>as much as there could be rhetoric about that, everyone

1625
01:41:12.840 --> 01:41:13.760
<v Speaker 2>loves American money.

1626
01:41:14.119 --> 01:41:14.439
<v Speaker 1>M hm.

1627
01:41:16.000 --> 01:41:19.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, so there is there is areas that you

1628
01:41:20.039 --> 01:41:22.079
<v Speaker 2>have to feel comfortable, like, you know, there's people that

1629
01:41:22.640 --> 01:41:25.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, we saw properties in Mauritius. You know that.

1630
01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Actually it's growing exponentially. Used to be just an island

1631
01:41:30.960 --> 01:41:36.159
<v Speaker 2>where the main source of GDP was agriculture, but now

1632
01:41:36.319 --> 01:41:40.319
<v Speaker 2>they change to the industry and they're making it now

1633
01:41:40.439 --> 01:41:44.680
<v Speaker 2>more to change it to like tourism, changing changing towards

1634
01:41:44.800 --> 01:41:47.800
<v Speaker 2>like you know, opening doors to more migrants coming there,

1635
01:41:47.960 --> 01:41:51.560
<v Speaker 2>retiring over there. It's it's it's much more affordable lifestyle.

1636
01:41:52.079 --> 01:41:54.960
<v Speaker 2>So people ask, okay, what are pros and cons to

1637
01:41:55.039 --> 01:41:58.760
<v Speaker 2>go there? And once there is a wave of developments,

1638
01:41:58.960 --> 01:42:01.720
<v Speaker 2>there is many deals, you know, so the point is

1639
01:42:02.359 --> 01:42:05.359
<v Speaker 2>what are you buying this thing for? Are you buying

1640
01:42:05.399 --> 01:42:07.760
<v Speaker 2>these property so you can rent it out and have

1641
01:42:07.960 --> 01:42:11.239
<v Speaker 2>yourself some kind of like passive income, or are you

1642
01:42:11.359 --> 01:42:14.640
<v Speaker 2>buying this thing to move there and live there? And

1643
01:42:15.119 --> 01:42:19.119
<v Speaker 2>that all depends on particular buyer. You know, if people

1644
01:42:19.319 --> 01:42:22.359
<v Speaker 2>want to retire and they want to have like more

1645
01:42:22.399 --> 01:42:25.640
<v Speaker 2>affordable way of life, because you know, if they have

1646
01:42:25.760 --> 01:42:28.000
<v Speaker 2>any four to one K, it doesn't matter. Let's call

1647
01:42:28.039 --> 01:42:30.239
<v Speaker 2>it the four to one K. It's five hundred thousand dollars,

1648
01:42:30.800 --> 01:42:33.479
<v Speaker 2>then a thousand dollars in America, it's not going to

1649
01:42:33.640 --> 01:42:38.560
<v Speaker 2>last much longer if you're trying it too different areas. Now,

1650
01:42:38.640 --> 01:42:41.159
<v Speaker 2>what they had was something close to them. They were

1651
01:42:41.239 --> 01:42:44.560
<v Speaker 2>moved to Mexico. Then we maybe moved to Caribbean Island

1652
01:42:44.720 --> 01:42:48.119
<v Speaker 2>somewhere they were associating. They never talked about moving to

1653
01:42:48.680 --> 01:42:54.800
<v Speaker 2>South America, moving to you know, Indian Ocean area like Mouritus, say, Shells,

1654
01:42:54.840 --> 01:42:59.279
<v Speaker 2>all these areas or Europe. So we the deals there

1655
01:42:59.399 --> 01:43:04.800
<v Speaker 2>are significant and I think that especially with options for

1656
01:43:05.000 --> 01:43:09.279
<v Speaker 2>you as an individual residential buyer, which is not the

1657
01:43:09.399 --> 01:43:13.520
<v Speaker 2>case in America, to purchase a condo, a house and

1658
01:43:13.680 --> 01:43:17.520
<v Speaker 2>secure yourself a residency, which can open the door for

1659
01:43:17.600 --> 01:43:21.399
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the European countries, for example. It's an

1660
01:43:21.439 --> 01:43:26.439
<v Speaker 2>appealing incentive and it's something that drives people to invest more,

1661
01:43:26.640 --> 01:43:27.239
<v Speaker 2>more and more.

1662
01:43:27.720 --> 01:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and of course I hear more and more from

1663
01:43:30.720 --> 01:43:34.600
<v Speaker 1>people who have lived abroad. They just can't believe how

1664
01:43:34.760 --> 01:43:37.239
<v Speaker 1>expensive everything is here in America. So that's one of

1665
01:43:37.239 --> 01:43:40.840
<v Speaker 1>the key things is driving people even for retirement. You

1666
01:43:40.920 --> 01:43:44.880
<v Speaker 1>know that they still have their social Security or whatever,

1667
01:43:44.920 --> 01:43:46.840
<v Speaker 1>but they can actually live off of it if they

1668
01:43:46.920 --> 01:43:49.800
<v Speaker 1>go to another country. I guess you see that a lot.

1669
01:43:50.319 --> 01:43:53.880
<v Speaker 2>No, no, correct, but you know what it is unless

1670
01:43:53.960 --> 01:43:57.039
<v Speaker 2>you're there. You know, most of the people, let's take

1671
01:43:57.319 --> 01:44:02.479
<v Speaker 2>let's generalize the American society and ninety nine percent of

1672
01:44:02.600 --> 01:44:05.000
<v Speaker 2>the people who ever left this country. There's people who

1673
01:44:05.119 --> 01:44:08.760
<v Speaker 2>never did who ever left this country. Most of them

1674
01:44:08.800 --> 01:44:12.680
<v Speaker 2>they went on a vacation trip two three weeks and.

1675
01:44:15.079 --> 01:44:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Very structured everything, the guided tour. Yeah exactly, so.

1676
01:44:18.800 --> 01:44:20.479
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they went first time. They say, you know what,

1677
01:44:20.960 --> 01:44:22.800
<v Speaker 2>let me test Greece. One more time and let me

1678
01:44:22.880 --> 01:44:25.439
<v Speaker 2>test pain. After three or four times, you said, you

1679
01:44:25.479 --> 01:44:29.000
<v Speaker 2>know what, it's actually really beautiful here, so how can

1680
01:44:29.079 --> 01:44:32.079
<v Speaker 2>I live here? However, they never end up staying there

1681
01:44:32.239 --> 01:44:35.439
<v Speaker 2>longer than a couple of months and kind of acclimatizing

1682
01:44:35.479 --> 01:44:38.960
<v Speaker 2>themselves to the society and me being European, I'm actually

1683
01:44:39.039 --> 01:44:41.960
<v Speaker 2>coming from Switzerland. I understand how easy to come to

1684
01:44:42.039 --> 01:44:45.479
<v Speaker 2>America and adjust to the American way of life. It's

1685
01:44:45.560 --> 01:44:47.920
<v Speaker 2>not a tourism. You have to stay here. You have

1686
01:44:48.000 --> 01:44:50.920
<v Speaker 2>to deal with problems, deal with issues, deal with like,

1687
01:44:51.079 --> 01:44:54.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, fixing yourself, like you know, work permits, Like

1688
01:44:54.560 --> 01:44:57.560
<v Speaker 2>it was a concept thirty years ago that I have

1689
01:44:57.680 --> 01:45:00.239
<v Speaker 2>to endure and go there. I didn't just come here's

1690
01:45:00.239 --> 01:45:03.439
<v Speaker 2>a tourist. So the shoe is on another foot for

1691
01:45:03.520 --> 01:45:06.079
<v Speaker 2>an American to say, Okay, I'm not going to go

1692
01:45:06.239 --> 01:45:10.119
<v Speaker 2>there as a tourist anymore. I'm gonna go there and stay.

1693
01:45:10.680 --> 01:45:13.399
<v Speaker 2>So how can I do that? You know, how much

1694
01:45:13.479 --> 01:45:17.199
<v Speaker 2>money do I need? What are my options? And in

1695
01:45:17.920 --> 01:45:21.520
<v Speaker 2>comparing to America, in order for you to live here,

1696
01:45:21.600 --> 01:45:24.119
<v Speaker 2>you have to be an extraordinary person to get like

1697
01:45:24.319 --> 01:45:27.479
<v Speaker 2>all one wiza, or or to bring up business, to

1698
01:45:27.520 --> 01:45:29.920
<v Speaker 2>invest into a business, to get like this EB five

1699
01:45:30.039 --> 01:45:33.520
<v Speaker 2>or E two WIZA or you know, get a green

1700
01:45:33.640 --> 01:45:36.399
<v Speaker 2>card and stuff like that. There is situations. They are

1701
01:45:36.520 --> 01:45:41.439
<v Speaker 2>on a table, but they are much more complex. Europe

1702
01:45:41.600 --> 01:45:45.520
<v Speaker 2>offers incentives that you can buy a condo and secure

1703
01:45:45.520 --> 01:45:49.960
<v Speaker 2>yourself a residency. Now that investment is yours. You're not

1704
01:45:50.079 --> 01:45:52.359
<v Speaker 2>going to lose it. Here in America, if you spend

1705
01:45:52.479 --> 01:45:56.960
<v Speaker 2>let's say two hundred thousand dollars on a business, that's

1706
01:45:57.000 --> 01:45:59.960
<v Speaker 2>going to secure you a residency for a couple of years.

1707
01:46:00.680 --> 01:46:02.920
<v Speaker 2>If your business goes down, you lost money. You know,

1708
01:46:03.000 --> 01:46:05.920
<v Speaker 2>you lost a hundred thousand dollars and you're going with nothing.

1709
01:46:06.760 --> 01:46:10.880
<v Speaker 2>In Europe, you can actually buy a property, get you know,

1710
01:46:11.119 --> 01:46:15.600
<v Speaker 2>a residency, and let you explore if that country is

1711
01:46:15.640 --> 01:46:18.199
<v Speaker 2>really for you, if Europe is really for you. Worst

1712
01:46:18.199 --> 01:46:20.239
<v Speaker 2>case scenario, you're going to say, you know what, I've

1713
01:46:20.239 --> 01:46:22.319
<v Speaker 2>been here two three years. I'm going to go back

1714
01:46:22.359 --> 01:46:25.640
<v Speaker 2>to America. I still have my European residency and guess what,

1715
01:46:26.199 --> 01:46:28.880
<v Speaker 2>I have a property over there that I may rent

1716
01:46:29.199 --> 01:46:31.079
<v Speaker 2>even if I'm not there, or I can sell it

1717
01:46:31.199 --> 01:46:35.640
<v Speaker 2>and get my money back. Those are social differences between

1718
01:46:35.800 --> 01:46:39.560
<v Speaker 2>moving from America to Europe hypothetically and vice versas.

1719
01:46:40.279 --> 01:46:43.079
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. Yeah, So this year, what do you see

1720
01:46:43.159 --> 01:46:47.479
<v Speaker 1>happening in real estate? This year? Kind of the economy

1721
01:46:47.640 --> 01:46:50.359
<v Speaker 1>has been there's a lot of clouds hanging over the economy.

1722
01:46:50.399 --> 01:46:53.359
<v Speaker 1>People concerned about what's going to happen with the AI

1723
01:46:53.960 --> 01:46:56.760
<v Speaker 1>bubble and if that thing is going to bust. What

1724
01:46:57.039 --> 01:46:58.399
<v Speaker 1>do you see happening with real estate?

1725
01:46:58.479 --> 01:47:05.079
<v Speaker 2>Then real estate it's finally coming to its senses. So

1726
01:47:06.199 --> 01:47:11.039
<v Speaker 2>all these people are realizing, especially the sellers one and

1727
01:47:11.600 --> 01:47:15.720
<v Speaker 2>those prices of like, you know, millions of dollars my

1728
01:47:15.880 --> 01:47:19.079
<v Speaker 2>property is jumping left and right and gonna stick with it.

1729
01:47:19.239 --> 01:47:21.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna sell it. It's not going to work.

1730
01:47:22.159 --> 01:47:24.399
<v Speaker 2>You know, you have to come down with your prices.

1731
01:47:24.479 --> 01:47:27.399
<v Speaker 2>The reason is that the interest rates, even though as

1732
01:47:27.479 --> 01:47:31.039
<v Speaker 2>much as they fall down, they're here to stay this

1733
01:47:31.319 --> 01:47:34.159
<v Speaker 2>now six six and a half, that's it. That's the

1734
01:47:34.239 --> 01:47:38.560
<v Speaker 2>bottom six percent. It's the new three percent. You know,

1735
01:47:38.680 --> 01:47:41.520
<v Speaker 2>it's never gonna go down again. I hope it's never,

1736
01:47:41.640 --> 01:47:44.640
<v Speaker 2>because then we in crisis. Each time an interestate's going

1737
01:47:44.680 --> 01:47:49.159
<v Speaker 2>to like literally under anything that government can borrow, you know,

1738
01:47:49.239 --> 01:47:51.760
<v Speaker 2>it means like they need to reset the market. That's

1739
01:47:51.800 --> 01:47:54.359
<v Speaker 2>why they offer those interest rates in twenty twenties to

1740
01:47:54.560 --> 01:47:59.640
<v Speaker 2>keep the you know this whole country alive and purchased

1741
01:47:59.640 --> 01:48:02.560
<v Speaker 2>the pro at three percent in twenty twenty at a

1742
01:48:02.680 --> 01:48:06.439
<v Speaker 2>half of the price value right now, should be crazy

1743
01:48:06.520 --> 01:48:09.680
<v Speaker 2>to sell it. Why would you? Because even if you

1744
01:48:09.880 --> 01:48:14.319
<v Speaker 2>cash out certain you know gains, what are you going

1745
01:48:14.359 --> 01:48:15.960
<v Speaker 2>to do with that money? You're going to go back

1746
01:48:16.000 --> 01:48:19.960
<v Speaker 2>on a market and buy something with more like you

1747
01:48:20.039 --> 01:48:23.720
<v Speaker 2>know APR and with a higher price. You're not going

1748
01:48:23.800 --> 01:48:25.600
<v Speaker 2>to if you're going to stick to what you have.

1749
01:48:26.159 --> 01:48:30.479
<v Speaker 2>That's why there is more properties on a market for

1750
01:48:30.800 --> 01:48:34.600
<v Speaker 2>sale than a buyers But these properties they were pass

1751
01:48:35.159 --> 01:48:38.720
<v Speaker 2>the three or four percent interest rates. Anyone who's selling

1752
01:48:38.760 --> 01:48:42.359
<v Speaker 2>a property now so that you know it's either refinancing

1753
01:48:42.399 --> 01:48:45.239
<v Speaker 2>from a ten percent to six or is getting rid

1754
01:48:45.279 --> 01:48:47.479
<v Speaker 2>of it because it was just a vision for that

1755
01:48:47.680 --> 01:48:51.039
<v Speaker 2>individual to flip it at one point of time. Since

1756
01:48:51.079 --> 01:48:54.520
<v Speaker 2>there is a buyers market and buyers dictating the tempo,

1757
01:48:55.159 --> 01:48:57.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, the properties prices are going to go down

1758
01:48:57.840 --> 01:49:00.399
<v Speaker 2>for sure, twenty to thirty percent from whatever it is

1759
01:49:00.560 --> 01:49:04.479
<v Speaker 2>right now, and the buyers on the other end are

1760
01:49:04.520 --> 01:49:08.880
<v Speaker 2>going to understand that six percent. That said, I can

1761
01:49:09.039 --> 01:49:11.520
<v Speaker 2>never go cheaper than that. I have to figure out

1762
01:49:11.640 --> 01:49:16.199
<v Speaker 2>how to purchase this. The biggest problems they are coming

1763
01:49:17.800 --> 01:49:22.159
<v Speaker 2>along are not even the prices of the properties or

1764
01:49:22.359 --> 01:49:26.079
<v Speaker 2>interest rates, it's insurance. The insurance prices.

1765
01:49:28.239 --> 01:49:30.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, especially in California for example.

1766
01:49:30.279 --> 01:49:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh my god, oh my, anything you touch it

1767
01:49:34.640 --> 01:49:37.279
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter if you want to ensure your own puppy.

1768
01:49:37.800 --> 01:49:41.359
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's like two percent. I'm not even talking

1769
01:49:41.399 --> 01:49:46.600
<v Speaker 2>about house because the major insurance companies, especially with Pacific polictates,

1770
01:49:46.640 --> 01:49:49.680
<v Speaker 2>fires and all the things that happened you know, last year,

1771
01:49:50.039 --> 01:49:54.119
<v Speaker 2>they literally exoduced California. It's becoming a danger zone. It's

1772
01:49:54.159 --> 01:49:57.479
<v Speaker 2>becoming something that they're definitely going to go in bankrupt.

1773
01:49:57.800 --> 01:50:02.840
<v Speaker 2>So whoever stayed raised the premiums through the roof. And

1774
01:50:03.159 --> 01:50:05.479
<v Speaker 2>if you do not pay attention that, even on a

1775
01:50:05.640 --> 01:50:10.560
<v Speaker 2>national you know, nationwide you know base, you may end

1776
01:50:10.680 --> 01:50:14.520
<v Speaker 2>up paying like double interest rates because if the house

1777
01:50:14.640 --> 01:50:18.439
<v Speaker 2>is now you know, paying almost half of your mortgage

1778
01:50:18.560 --> 01:50:22.319
<v Speaker 2>on insurance, you're gonna think twice if you're gonna buy

1779
01:50:22.359 --> 01:50:22.800
<v Speaker 2>this house.

1780
01:50:23.279 --> 01:50:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, how does that compare internationally? I mean

1781
01:50:26.399 --> 01:50:29.479
<v Speaker 1>if if you go to some of these countries are

1782
01:50:29.680 --> 01:50:32.319
<v Speaker 1>not even in a developing area, but even in Europe,

1783
01:50:32.520 --> 01:50:34.600
<v Speaker 1>what is the insurance situation like there.

1784
01:50:34.920 --> 01:50:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Insurance itself, as I said, in America, who the hell

1785
01:50:37.640 --> 01:50:39.439
<v Speaker 2>knows what's going to happen. And I'm sorry to use

1786
01:50:39.479 --> 01:50:44.000
<v Speaker 2>this world h ell, but I think that once this

1787
01:50:44.159 --> 01:50:46.640
<v Speaker 2>whole economy cannot settle down, everything else is going to

1788
01:50:46.680 --> 01:50:49.119
<v Speaker 2>settle down, and people are taking too much advantages. It's

1789
01:50:49.159 --> 01:50:51.920
<v Speaker 2>just one of those do never let the good crisis

1790
01:50:51.960 --> 01:50:55.199
<v Speaker 2>go to waste situation that the big corporations and big

1791
01:50:55.319 --> 01:50:57.760
<v Speaker 2>companies are. I mean, there is no reason for you

1792
01:50:57.920 --> 01:51:00.800
<v Speaker 2>to pay thousand dollars a month on you car. You know,

1793
01:51:00.880 --> 01:51:04.359
<v Speaker 2>in jurance there's for that, you know, but they don't

1794
01:51:04.399 --> 01:51:06.840
<v Speaker 2>give you an option. So at one point this all

1795
01:51:06.960 --> 01:51:11.319
<v Speaker 2>has to legalize as to come to certain terms that

1796
01:51:11.880 --> 01:51:16.560
<v Speaker 2>otherwise it won't be sustainable. Now, when it comes to

1797
01:51:17.159 --> 01:51:20.479
<v Speaker 2>real estate itself, as I said, it's it's a tree

1798
01:51:20.560 --> 01:51:24.239
<v Speaker 2>that has too many rotten apples, too many rules of regulations.

1799
01:51:25.119 --> 01:51:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Technology is going full speed. I remember even back in

1800
01:51:31.800 --> 01:51:35.680
<v Speaker 2>the days I mentioned in an earlier part of the interview,

1801
01:51:35.840 --> 01:51:40.920
<v Speaker 2>like something like ro o N Remote online authorization was

1802
01:51:41.119 --> 01:51:45.000
<v Speaker 2>taboo in most of the states because not a republic,

1803
01:51:45.199 --> 01:51:46.840
<v Speaker 2>it's an industry on its own.

1804
01:51:47.439 --> 01:51:50.479
<v Speaker 1>So like guilds that they've got like a union or

1805
01:51:50.520 --> 01:51:54.359
<v Speaker 1>a guild or something, and they protect their little territory there, right,

1806
01:51:56.520 --> 01:51:57.439
<v Speaker 1>So that's why.

1807
01:51:57.359 --> 01:52:00.560
<v Speaker 2>They were making tons of money. And let's say, and

1808
01:52:00.760 --> 01:52:02.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm not gonna give you the wrong the

1809
01:52:02.840 --> 01:52:05.960
<v Speaker 2>wrong data, but let's say two years ago, out of

1810
01:52:06.079 --> 01:52:12.039
<v Speaker 2>fifty states, thirty one had remote online authorization options because

1811
01:52:12.039 --> 01:52:16.520
<v Speaker 2>of the COVID shifted this whole technology to be you know, acceptable,

1812
01:52:17.039 --> 01:52:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Let's say states didn't and that's California. So anywhere else

1813
01:52:21.119 --> 01:52:23.520
<v Speaker 2>we could have finished the deal that like I'm in

1814
01:52:23.600 --> 01:52:25.880
<v Speaker 2>California and you're in New York and I can buy

1815
01:52:25.920 --> 01:52:28.880
<v Speaker 2>your property like literally with a camera, like, oh, this

1816
01:52:29.079 --> 01:52:32.560
<v Speaker 2>is it. And in California, no, the present of a

1817
01:52:32.680 --> 01:52:34.840
<v Speaker 2>not republic, which means you have to fly from New

1818
01:52:34.920 --> 01:52:38.880
<v Speaker 2>York to do that. So technology, I think it's taking charge.

1819
01:52:39.760 --> 01:52:44.239
<v Speaker 2>And once certain rules and regulations come into a place,

1820
01:52:44.359 --> 01:52:49.079
<v Speaker 2>and especially with crypto situation, I think it's going to

1821
01:52:49.119 --> 01:52:53.720
<v Speaker 2>be parabolic because all that part of this blockchain, all

1822
01:52:53.760 --> 01:52:57.079
<v Speaker 2>the part that has been built that's not it, it's

1823
01:52:57.119 --> 01:53:01.840
<v Speaker 2>not legit, it's just not acceptable to the society, to

1824
01:53:01.960 --> 01:53:07.880
<v Speaker 2>the regulatory systems. Once it's set in Stone. It's going

1825
01:53:07.960 --> 01:53:10.159
<v Speaker 2>to be an open market for tech to be a

1826
01:53:10.239 --> 01:53:14.600
<v Speaker 2>dominant part, and then brokerages and agents are going to

1827
01:53:14.640 --> 01:53:16.600
<v Speaker 2>come there as a tool. So it's going to flip

1828
01:53:16.680 --> 01:53:20.239
<v Speaker 2>the switch here tech is a tool. A few years

1829
01:53:20.279 --> 01:53:23.000
<v Speaker 2>from now, agents and humans are going to be the

1830
01:53:23.079 --> 01:53:24.359
<v Speaker 2>tool towards technology.

1831
01:53:25.359 --> 01:53:28.399
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. Yeah, we were talking about insurance, and of

1832
01:53:28.439 --> 01:53:32.680
<v Speaker 1>course that comes into the bigger issue of affordability. And

1833
01:53:33.479 --> 01:53:36.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, we have a very expensive prices here in America.

1834
01:53:36.359 --> 01:53:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Our insurance is very high. How does that compare to

1835
01:53:38.720 --> 01:53:42.159
<v Speaker 1>like Europe and some developing markets in terms of insurance.

1836
01:53:43.640 --> 01:53:46.000
<v Speaker 2>I think that the durance in general, and on seeing

1837
01:53:46.079 --> 01:53:49.560
<v Speaker 2>some other countries, you know, it's jumped everywhere because you know,

1838
01:53:52.520 --> 01:53:56.600
<v Speaker 2>be talking about the economies, we're tanking. You know, the

1839
01:53:56.760 --> 01:54:00.199
<v Speaker 2>whole interst rates were jumping, so everything kind of went

1840
01:54:00.319 --> 01:54:08.000
<v Speaker 2>with it. But here in America, it's more about shares

1841
01:54:08.560 --> 01:54:12.079
<v Speaker 2>for the shareholder and price per share earnings, and the

1842
01:54:12.199 --> 01:54:15.479
<v Speaker 2>more they generate, the more the money the stock market

1843
01:54:15.640 --> 01:54:20.239
<v Speaker 2>is going to make. It's close to the level in Europe.

1844
01:54:21.359 --> 01:54:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Why because America has its own one system rules, where

1845
01:54:28.079 --> 01:54:31.000
<v Speaker 2>in Europe, even though you're part of European Union, every

1846
01:54:31.079 --> 01:54:34.760
<v Speaker 2>single country has their own rules and regulations. So the

1847
01:54:34.840 --> 01:54:37.479
<v Speaker 2>endurance they are in Switzerland and the raids are not

1848
01:54:37.640 --> 01:54:41.800
<v Speaker 2>the same that are in Germany or or like let's

1849
01:54:41.840 --> 01:54:46.319
<v Speaker 2>say France or Portugal. They are based on the local economies.

1850
01:54:46.880 --> 01:54:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Here in America, even though we have states and they

1851
01:54:49.840 --> 01:54:51.880
<v Speaker 2>are kind of independent, but at the end of the day,

1852
01:54:52.039 --> 01:54:55.760
<v Speaker 2>certain rates, they're federalized and they're pushing it across the board.

1853
01:54:56.600 --> 01:54:59.319
<v Speaker 2>In Europe, it's like they have to adjust to each other.

1854
01:55:00.199 --> 01:55:03.000
<v Speaker 2>That like, because if one country that's part of pm

1855
01:55:03.159 --> 01:55:07.199
<v Speaker 2>Union cannot keep up with the other country because it's

1856
01:55:07.399 --> 01:55:11.520
<v Speaker 2>less prosperous, so they are they are helping the less

1857
01:55:11.560 --> 01:55:16.119
<v Speaker 2>prosperous country not to pull the whole European Union down.

1858
01:55:16.640 --> 01:55:21.199
<v Speaker 2>And that's why the control it's more towards regional aspect

1859
01:55:21.239 --> 01:55:25.319
<v Speaker 2>towards this global European or international aspects.

1860
01:55:26.039 --> 01:55:28.359
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. Let's talk a little bit about what you

1861
01:55:28.479 --> 01:55:31.319
<v Speaker 1>do with your company, and of course i'll just spell

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<v Speaker 1>this out for people. The name is I M M

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<v Speaker 1>O B I L I U M A Mobilium okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and people dot com and people can find out what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a service do you provide them in terms

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01:55:45.399 --> 01:55:49.079
<v Speaker 1>of taking all your expertise and experience in these different

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<v Speaker 1>markets together. What is it that they find from your corporation.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, First of all, it's spelled it's spelled Immobilium dot

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<v Speaker 2>io I as an ilan o because it's a tech companies.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay dot com yeah, okay.

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01:56:04.680 --> 01:56:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Well we from a tech perspective, we secure fastest way

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<v Speaker 2>of purchasing property where you literally if everything is intact,

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01:56:14.079 --> 01:56:16.119
<v Speaker 2>you can buy it, like as if you were on

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01:56:16.279 --> 01:56:20.079
<v Speaker 2>Amazon buying shoes, so on both events, like with one

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01:56:20.159 --> 01:56:23.560
<v Speaker 2>click purchase. That's our model. Like you know, if we

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01:56:23.680 --> 01:56:26.079
<v Speaker 2>have something now in Spain, let's say in Bits, and

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<v Speaker 2>there is a property there, so what we do. We

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01:56:28.920 --> 01:56:35.920
<v Speaker 2>already pre vet this property. We do inspections, we collect

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01:56:36.000 --> 01:56:39.199
<v Speaker 2>documentations like from a seller's it's already done. It's like

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01:56:39.239 --> 01:56:42.560
<v Speaker 2>a product. We're putting it on a platform. So there

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<v Speaker 2>is no reason for you now to fly to Spain

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01:56:45.960 --> 01:56:48.039
<v Speaker 2>to check this property. There is no reason for you

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01:56:48.239 --> 01:56:52.640
<v Speaker 2>to deal with six weeks ascro do diligence research. We

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01:56:52.760 --> 01:56:56.640
<v Speaker 2>did all that prior putting it on a property. So

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01:56:56.760 --> 01:56:59.279
<v Speaker 2>the buyer comes and see, oh this is ready to go.

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<v Speaker 2>We are not wasting time. So let me conclude this transaction.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's one aspect, you know, assuring that that product,

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01:57:09.239 --> 01:57:11.960
<v Speaker 2>as in real estate, as a product, it's ready to go,

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01:57:12.119 --> 01:57:15.840
<v Speaker 2>because that's the only one asset in the world that

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01:57:16.079 --> 01:57:20.439
<v Speaker 2>actually it's not. There is no option to buy it

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01:57:20.600 --> 01:57:21.680
<v Speaker 2>as you're buying.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, shoes, right, but it's encumbered with a lot

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01:57:26.039 --> 01:57:28.159
<v Speaker 1>of technicalities you know well.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason is why because the real estate it's

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01:57:31.199 --> 01:57:35.800
<v Speaker 2>part of the local economy. It's almost a commodity. It's

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01:57:36.279 --> 01:57:39.600
<v Speaker 2>you're paying taxes, you know, the government owns the land.

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01:57:39.760 --> 01:57:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Like there's so much there that you cannot just buy

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01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:44.960
<v Speaker 2>real estate or we have to do background check. We're

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01:57:45.000 --> 01:57:49.119
<v Speaker 2>doing ama anti money laundry KYC. Knowing your customers. So

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01:57:49.199 --> 01:57:51.920
<v Speaker 2>even our buyers have to be known. So we can

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01:57:52.000 --> 01:57:55.239
<v Speaker 2>make it much much easier for the seller to accept

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01:57:55.640 --> 01:57:59.760
<v Speaker 2>that transactional ap purchase. And so we open these doors

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01:58:00.199 --> 01:58:02.600
<v Speaker 2>that people go all around, they come to us. Okay,

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01:58:02.680 --> 01:58:06.039
<v Speaker 2>let's let us close this transaction to you guys, because

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01:58:06.119 --> 01:58:08.159
<v Speaker 2>you have so to say, troops on the ground in

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01:58:08.279 --> 01:58:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Spain helping us out that we do not have to

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01:58:11.039 --> 01:58:15.720
<v Speaker 2>fly to Spain to actually check the property. Someone over there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to do all this thing for us all

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01:58:17.720 --> 01:58:23.680
<v Speaker 2>the diligence, all the necessity of this transaction, and I'm

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01:58:23.720 --> 01:58:28.760
<v Speaker 2>still here in California. Now we went so far that like,

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01:58:29.119 --> 01:58:31.199
<v Speaker 2>you don't even have to ever fly to Spain to

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01:58:31.319 --> 01:58:34.119
<v Speaker 2>buy these properties. If you want, we can do all

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<v Speaker 2>the documentations online for you. But if you will, that's

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01:58:38.960 --> 01:58:41.279
<v Speaker 2>the icing on a cake. You go there to pick

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01:58:41.359 --> 01:58:43.640
<v Speaker 2>up your keys, so you don't have to fly going

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth and waste time.

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<v Speaker 1>Not just that.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever you go to Europe, whenever you go to any

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<v Speaker 2>other countries, most of the time you go on vacation,

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<v Speaker 2>You're not going to go and spend two three weeks

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<v Speaker 2>looking for our properties. Relax, and when you go back,

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01:58:58.680 --> 01:59:01.359
<v Speaker 2>you never went to any cone as a tourist and say,

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01:59:01.399 --> 01:59:04.680
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, how many days we have for let's

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01:59:04.760 --> 01:59:07.439
<v Speaker 2>just go buy something. These things don't happen and go

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<v Speaker 2>back and you say, I loved Spain. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>go back there. I want us to leave. What's the

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<v Speaker 2>next step? And then the steps is like, well, let

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<v Speaker 2>me call some local agency in Spain most of these

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<v Speaker 2>ages and maybe even speak English, and you just this

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<v Speaker 2>whole dream of moving abroad collapses for you. It's becoming

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01:59:25.880 --> 01:59:29.760
<v Speaker 2>too complicated. But as we do all the diligence prior

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<v Speaker 2>with assisting and helping you as the buyer, have the

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<v Speaker 2>smoothest possible concept available.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very interesting. There's one other thing too, in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of affordability. You know, one of the trends that we

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<v Speaker 1>see happening here in the United States is there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of states and a lot of talk by politicians

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<v Speaker 1>about eliminating property taxes. And what is the property tax

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<v Speaker 1>situation that you typically see, let's say in the EU.

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<v Speaker 1>Are that pretty high? I would imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>Each country has their own rules and regulations, each their

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<v Speaker 2>own taxes, each country has their own availability or allowance

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<v Speaker 2>who can purchase properties, So there is no general rule.

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<v Speaker 2>And to be honest with you, with that said, even

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<v Speaker 2>the way and timelines how long can it take for

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<v Speaker 2>you to to actually purchase property are? You know, are

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<v Speaker 2>not set in stone like And that's the taxes in

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<v Speaker 2>let's say, in Switzerland are much more different than the

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<v Speaker 2>taxes in Germany. Uh, the regulations are different. Like let's say,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to buy properties in Switzerland, and though

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<v Speaker 2>Switzerland is not part of European Union, but let's just

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<v Speaker 2>say it has the same structure you cannot be just

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<v Speaker 2>an individual. You know, they don't want to deflate the market.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want to work with you know, flipping properties

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<v Speaker 2>like you're doing in America and one day will sell

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<v Speaker 2>it tomorrow. You know, they're over protective towards their own

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<v Speaker 2>towards their own society. And you know, like I'm speaking,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say of Israel. Let's say it's becoming so difficult,

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<v Speaker 2>like okay, regardless of the current situation, but even prior

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<v Speaker 2>to that, in order for you to purchase something in Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm you know, I might be wrong exactly the concept.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know everything the top of my head. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to send money to three different parties. You have

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<v Speaker 2>to send you know, partial partial purchase goes to a seller,

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<v Speaker 2>partial purchase goes to someone who is something like escro

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<v Speaker 2>It's between a notary public and a lawyer. And a

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<v Speaker 2>partial purchase goes to the government. And then ask yourself

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<v Speaker 2>why the government Because the government has to collect taxes,

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<v Speaker 2>but they don't have a fixed tax system, so they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to keep that money until they figure out how

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<v Speaker 2>much the seller actually owns them money. So situations like

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<v Speaker 2>this just push the buyer away because it's becoming too complicated.

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<v Speaker 2>The good thing is that many of these countries set

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<v Speaker 2>offer incentives through these taxes, and it's it's helpful because

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<v Speaker 2>it makes you think twice where you should spend your

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<v Speaker 2>money or your retirement money on, you know, before you

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<v Speaker 2>say it's about time for me to stop with work.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, well that is something that is becoming increasingly common,

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<v Speaker 1>I think for Americans to start looking abroad in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of how they can afford to live after they retire.

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<v Speaker 1>But as you point out, it's a very complicated system,

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<v Speaker 1>and that really is interesting that you've stepped into that

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<v Speaker 1>as an information resource and kind of a sherpa. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess if somebody is going to take a long journey,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a very important service.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's if I may just you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>cut you off. We mentioned casinos, we mentioned shopping centers,

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned stuff like that, and it's out there there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's twenty cents, thirty cents on a dollar. They need

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<v Speaker 2>buyers and now talking about something like that, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>limited to just group of people, and they could be

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<v Speaker 2>syndication of us buying something in Europe that can actually

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<v Speaker 2>be our investment, not just our place to go and leave,

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<v Speaker 2>or to potentially putting on Airbnb. But you sit here,

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<v Speaker 2>you limited what you have in front of you, You

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<v Speaker 2>let what you have in your vicinity. You may eventually

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<v Speaker 2>change the state, you know, because you still want to

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<v Speaker 2>go and check it out, back and forth. But buying

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<v Speaker 2>a casino in Cyprus, like you know, which is part

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<v Speaker 2>between Greece and Turkey, and it's an amazing deal even

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<v Speaker 2>if you want it. It was like, you know, THEMN

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<v Speaker 2>how are going to do that? You know they have deals,

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<v Speaker 2>especially after Corona when you know they destroy the whole

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<v Speaker 2>market they were aband and hotels, abandoned shopping centers that

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<v Speaker 2>they were, They would they would love to sell to someone,

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<v Speaker 2>but the capital is limited in Europe. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>where we're opening a door. Even for commercial real estate,

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<v Speaker 2>Hey what do you need? You know we buy it

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<v Speaker 2>for closures, abandoned projects. This is where this major key

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<v Speaker 2>is that like residential buyers and our each jaw can

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<v Speaker 2>potentially buy because it's cheaper. I hate this work, cheaper,

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<v Speaker 2>more affordable in Europe. In Europe you can buy I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not even kidding. In Europe, you can buy a

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<v Speaker 2>hotel in Athens, Grace for four million dollars that already

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<v Speaker 2>is working well and generating you return on investment stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that. It's so appealing. I mean, what's four million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars for, you know, people to take a long couple

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<v Speaker 2>of friends and buy a hotel. I mean it's everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>dream and then even move there or just rent it out.

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<v Speaker 2>But you just how not going to do that? That's

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<v Speaker 2>that's the biggest concept.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's amazing. Well, thank you so much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>It really has been fascinating to kind of get a

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<v Speaker 1>picture of that. And again, the company is I M,

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<v Speaker 1>M O B I L I U M and Mobilium

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<v Speaker 1>and io dot io. Yes, thank you so much, Sasha Papak,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for joining us and giving us

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<v Speaker 1>a view of what's happening in the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>world as we look at real estate and economies that

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<v Speaker 1>are happening there. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>It was nice being invited. I love your studio, you

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<v Speaker 2>know environment, it looks amazing. I'm big listening to you

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<v Speaker 2>and you are much more pleasant, so to say, almost

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<v Speaker 2>like a virtual person than like just listening.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you very much. I appreciate that. Have a

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<v Speaker 1>good day. Thank you well. Certainly technology is changing. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>is changing it at a very quick pace, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get his perspective as somebody who knows the

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<v Speaker 1>America market but also knows other markets and has that perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to see these institutions that have been around

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<v Speaker 1>for a very long time. They've outgrown, well not outgrown,

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<v Speaker 1>but the technology has outgrown the way that we actually

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<v Speaker 1>buy and sell houses. So we're going to see a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of change in that. But the bottom line is

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<v Speaker 1>Class Schwab has got it right. You will own nothing

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<v Speaker 1>as long as we've got property taxes. That's one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that we need to work on here in America to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure we actually can own property or they will

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<v Speaker 1>take it from us with that. So I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>found that interesting. Thank you for joining us. Have a

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<v Speaker 1>good weekend. The common maid they created common Core. They've

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<v Speaker 1>dumbed down our children. They created common Past to track

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<v Speaker 1>and control us. Their Commons project to make sure the

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<v Speaker 1>commoners own nothing, and the common in this future they

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<v Speaker 1>see the common man is simple, unsophisticated, ordinary, but each

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<v Speaker 1>of us has worth and dignity created in the image

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<v Speaker 1>of God. That is what we have in common. That

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<v Speaker 1>is what they want to take away. Their most powerful

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<v Speaker 1>weapons are isolation, deception, intimidation. They desire to know everything

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<v Speaker 1>about us, while they hide everything from us. It's time

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<v Speaker 1>to turn that around and expose what they want to hide.

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