WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:11.960 Okay, okay, if I am six forty live everywhere in 2 00:00:12.000 --> 00:00:15.080 the iHeartRadio app is tech Thursday. You know that means 3 00:00:15.160 --> 00:00:18.079 Marshall Caller joins me in studio. Marsh is great to 4 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:19.800 have you here each and every week. How are you 5 00:00:19.839 --> 00:00:20.320 this evening. 6 00:00:20.559 --> 00:00:23.399 It's so great to actually see you because when we 7 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:25.000 have a camera, I can't see you. 8 00:00:25.239 --> 00:00:27.600 I know they can't see the layout. The cameras will 9 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:30.199 be back tomorrow, so I'm told. But you know, when 10 00:00:30.280 --> 00:00:33.159 we have the setup, we don't have direct line of sight. 11 00:00:33.159 --> 00:00:35.039 Using right and I like to look at Mo because 12 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:38.000 I like to see his reactions and believe me, he reacts, 13 00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:40.359 Oh I do. If there's something that he doesn't like, 14 00:00:40.479 --> 00:00:41.679 there's a reaction. 15 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:48.240 I you know, I know that Google recently, well I 16 00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:50.560 don't know if they announced tell me this. I know 17 00:00:50.600 --> 00:00:54.159 that they're supposed supposed to have their annual event in 18 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:55.640 August of this year. 19 00:00:55.960 --> 00:00:58.359 Okay, they have a couple of events. 20 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:01.759 Okay, which they release their next exel watch and phone 21 00:01:01.880 --> 00:01:02.799 and fold and. 22 00:01:02.840 --> 00:01:03.759 All that kind of stuff. 23 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:05.040 Right, that'll be in August. 24 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:09.239 But I'm not feeling any heat or momentum. We're already 25 00:01:09.280 --> 00:01:12.040 in June and people are not talking about it like 26 00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:13.319 they usually do. 27 00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:15.840 Are you feeling the same way about that? 28 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:19.640 Yeah? For example, I saw the layout of the number 29 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:24.000 of phones that Samsung has right now. It's ridiculous. It 30 00:01:24.079 --> 00:01:28.439 looks like about ten phones. Ten phones? What? 31 00:01:28.760 --> 00:01:29.400 Literally? Yeah? 32 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:32.400 You know, I come eBay for dummies with my first book. 33 00:01:32.480 --> 00:01:36.640 I know about retail. That's too many skews for a 34 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:41.280 phone company. SKU means stock keeping units, and that's the name. 35 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:42.640 We're really dating ourselves. 36 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:46.079 But go ahead, No they still use okay, well do 37 00:01:46.120 --> 00:01:47.519 they still call it the skews? 38 00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:49.959 Okay, skews? 39 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:53.000 But yeah, so that's just too many to concentrate on. 40 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:56.599 I say, okay, do three four phones? 41 00:01:56.640 --> 00:01:56.920 Do it? 42 00:01:57.000 --> 00:01:57.200 Right? 43 00:01:57.400 --> 00:01:59.439 Yeah? Googled has four phones. 44 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:02.239 Technically, if you called the pixel, which will be the 45 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:05.840 ten You know, they have the pixel and the pixel XL. 46 00:02:06.280 --> 00:02:07.599 I count that as two phones. 47 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:10.280 Then they have the pixel fold and I think there's 48 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:11.280 one other that they have. 49 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:14.960 Well, and when you look at Apple, they have that 50 00:02:15.039 --> 00:02:19.439 new skinny phone. You know, I didn't hear any hue 51 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:22.520 and cry, hey, we want a skinny phone, We want 52 00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:25.639 a skinny phone. No, because I can see that just 53 00:02:25.719 --> 00:02:28.400 sliding out through your hands. One cool thing I did 54 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:33.199 see is the company that makes the keyboard that snaps 55 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:34.719 onto an Apple I phone. 56 00:02:34.759 --> 00:02:36.000 I see that. That's very cool. 57 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:39.280 Has now made that for the pixel Do you have 58 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:40.159 a Pixel nine? 59 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:41.360 I have a Pixel nine A. 60 00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:42.719 It would take it. 61 00:02:43.759 --> 00:02:46.879 And if you don't know, everyone has a virtual keyboard 62 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:49.520 right now, and there are companies more than one, which 63 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:53.719 are making actual tactile physical keyboards to attach to your phone. 64 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:57.680 I think it's called clicks clicks, yes, yeah. 65 00:02:56.719 --> 00:02:58.960 And what it does is it snaps onto your phone 66 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:02.560 and you could actually use your thumbs. I can't use 67 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:05.400 my thumbs on a screen. They slide on all around. 68 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:07.840 I miss and I have more than just a few 69 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:10.599 typos because I'm typing on a screen and it's not 70 00:03:11.199 --> 00:03:12.560 being unable to see it. 71 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:16.800 It's just you can't feel where the right the letters are. 72 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:19.879 Right back to the days of the old, you know, 73 00:03:19.960 --> 00:03:23.599 the BlackBerry, BlackBerry, absolutely the sidekick. These were phones that 74 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:26.439 you could really feel the keys and it wasn't a 75 00:03:26.520 --> 00:03:29.560 key feeling. All we can say is it was like 76 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:31.759 a bump and if you were in the middle of 77 00:03:31.800 --> 00:03:33.039 the bump, you knew you were there. 78 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:35.280 Yeah, you didn't have to look at your hands, and 79 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:38.039 you had a real sense of typing accurately. 80 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:41.800 So they do make these, and hopefully the company will 81 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:44.360 make it for other phones. I don't think they'll go 82 00:03:44.479 --> 00:03:48.080 backwards for the older phones, but I think that's a 83 00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:51.039 good thing because I wonder how much weight it sticks 84 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:53.319 to it. Maybe I'll call them up and see if 85 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:54.560 we can get one for you, mom. 86 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:58.000 I'm willing to try it because I've wanted actual buttons 87 00:03:58.000 --> 00:03:59.639 for quite some time, but they had fallen out of 88 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:03.840 favor with the demise of BlackBerry. And I do a 89 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:07.919 lot of texting, so anything which enhances the keyboard experience 90 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:09.039 I'm going to try. 91 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:11.319 But I do have to tell you that I've started 92 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:14.439 trying to dictating. 93 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:16.439 My text speech to text. I'll do that as well. 94 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:19.000 Yes, it does a pretty good job, and even when 95 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:21.480 I look at the screen and I go, mmm, hasn't 96 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:24.199 gotten it right, it'll all of a sudden correct itself 97 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:26.360 to the right thing as it gets the rest of 98 00:04:26.399 --> 00:04:29.240 the sentence. But I'm not one of those people who 99 00:04:29.279 --> 00:04:31.120 like to sit and talk to my phone. 100 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:35.279 I no, I don't do it either, with the exception 101 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:40.680 of when I'm driving. Android Otto is beautiful and I 102 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:42.240 can't recreate how it works. 103 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:43.560 But it will ask me. 104 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:46.319 I'll receive a text, it'll read it for me if 105 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:48.480 I want it, It'll ask me do I want to reply? 106 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:51.240 I say yes, and then it says, you know, what 107 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:52.920 is it you want to say? And I'll say it, 108 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:55.079 and then to say would you like to send? I 109 00:04:55.120 --> 00:04:58.759 say yes. And I can have text conversations in my 110 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:01.279 car when I'm driving and never have to look at 111 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:01.839 my phone. 112 00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:04.240 Well, I get distracted. I just you know, I have 113 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:06.439 a thing. I don't do anything on my phone when 114 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:08.920 I drive. Period. I don't want It's kind of like 115 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:13.079 when I go on a plane and I fly a lot, 116 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:16.519 I won't use the Wi Fi. I'm just there, the 117 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:20.240 raw dog at it. I'll just put me on a plane, 118 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:23.800 give me a meal, and give me a lay flat seat, 119 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:24.879 and I'm in business. 120 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:27.079 I don't see how you can do that, seriously, because 121 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:30.480 you do enough international travel where there are some long 122 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:31.519 hauls in between. 123 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:34.439 Longest one I did was fourteen hours. 124 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:39.800 I need at least four movies Wi Fi, And when 125 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:44.199 I flew Korea Airlines to South Korea, there was no 126 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:46.279 Wi Fi either coming or going. 127 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:48.800 But I had already downloaded about six movies. 128 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:49.759 You didn't sleep. 129 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:52.600 I did do some sleeping, but also I'm very conscious 130 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:55.279 of getting up and walking around so I don't develop 131 00:05:55.279 --> 00:05:56.439 blood clots and that kind of thing. 132 00:05:56.439 --> 00:05:57.639 So I'm not trying to sleep the whole time. 133 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:00.879 So where I wear compression socks on long flights, have 134 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:04.360 always have because I knew somebody that got that, and 135 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:05.439 I know. 136 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:08.439 I had my brother in law's father who was a 137 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:13.480 jazz musician. Unfortunately died at fifty seven because of an embolism. 138 00:06:13.480 --> 00:06:15.240 They thought that he got on a long haul. 139 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:18.600 Yeah, I saw somebody collapse walking out of a plane. 140 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:19.800 I don't know. Oh my god. 141 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:21.680 It's a real thing. It's a very real thing. 142 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:23.959 So yeah, if you're not going to if you're going 143 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:26.319 to be on a long haul flight, at the very least, 144 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:29.639 wear compression socks. Nobody has to know that their compression 145 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:33.680 socks except once I wore compression pantyhose though, and then 146 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:34.360 that was nothing. 147 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:36.319 Yeah, I don't think that's going to be something I'm 148 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:39.720 going to see. Not a good idea consider, but you know, 149 00:06:40.360 --> 00:06:45.199 not on a long haul flight. But uh, yeah, I 150 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:47.759 love sleeping. I love planes ever since I was a 151 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:50.240 little girl. My first flight was I was four years old. 152 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:54.560 I see I'm not all that comfortable sleeping on planes 153 00:06:54.600 --> 00:06:56.600 all the time because I'm not a nervous flyer. But 154 00:06:56.639 --> 00:07:00.519 I'm not a at ease flyer, so that's funny. 155 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:02.120 And yet when I go on a plane, I think 156 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:05.920 to myself, if I'm going to die now I'm doing 157 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:06.639 something I love. 158 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:08.480 Oh no, I get it. And that's part of the 159 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:10.360 reason why I do fly. In other words, I'm going 160 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:13.040 to be flying out to Rome as part of this 161 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:15.439 cruise we were talking about last segment, So Joe, But 162 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:18.279 what I'm saying, I don't like to fly, but it's 163 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:22.680 got Do I want to go to Rome or not? Yeah? 164 00:07:22.759 --> 00:07:24.079 You kind of have to have a plane. 165 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:28.680 No, No, I just have to have a jack neat 166 00:07:28.720 --> 00:07:30.199 and you know, do the best I can with. 167 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:33.199 The movies I got, Yeah, and just be comfortable and 168 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:38.560 enjoy it for what it is, because just flying it's 169 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:39.839 a freaking miracle. 170 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:43.560 That's why I'm probably so uncomfortable with it, because it's like, 171 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:45.319 this is not supposed to stay in the air. 172 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:47.879 Did you read the book by the captain that explained 173 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:50.480 all of this. I read it once on a plane 174 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:52.120 and it changed my whole outlook. 175 00:07:52.199 --> 00:07:54.360 I don't read about planes when I'm on the plane 176 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:57.800 because I'm going to see something or read something which 177 00:07:57.879 --> 00:07:59.920 is going to make my mind more uncomfortable. 178 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:05.160 Okay. I went to Buenos Ayres on business and I 179 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:10.160 had to land in Santiago, and from Santiago to Buenos Aires, 180 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:13.800 and I went up the Andes Mountains and I saw. 181 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:15.800 Oh god, the movie the movie. 182 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:19.319 Yes, it was right there. I mean we were climbing 183 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:21.319 in the plane and I'm looking out the window and 184 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:23.639 oh my god, that was the most horrifying thing I 185 00:08:23.639 --> 00:08:26.879 ever saw. But you know, it is what it is. 186 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:29.360 Man. Yeah, there's certain places in the world I probably 187 00:08:29.439 --> 00:08:33.879 will never visit, if only because I've read enough about 188 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:34.720 the approaches. 189 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:38.279 Yeah, short runways, Yeah yeah. 190 00:08:38.120 --> 00:08:41.720 But I have a thing against volcanoes. Volcanoes are just 191 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:45.559 you put a volcano somewhere. I'm not going You're not 192 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:48.840 flying over the volcano. Now it's Later with mo Kelly. 193 00:08:49.159 --> 00:08:49.919 We're just riffing. 194 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:52.240 It is Marshall Collier who joins us in studio on 195 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:54.480 this Tech Thursday KFI AM six forty live everywhere in 196 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:55.600 the iHeartRadio app. 197 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:59.679 You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from 198 00:08:59.799 --> 00:09:03.120 K six forty KFI. 199 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:04.000 Is Later with mo Kelly. 200 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:06.320 We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app and on this 201 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:09.000 Tech Thursday. You know that means that Marcia Calier joins 202 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:13.360 me in studio. Marsha, you and I we were talking 203 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:16.159 during the break with there's some similarities in how we 204 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:20.200 approach this online marketplace, how we spend money. 205 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:23.320 Well, you and I have so many similarities. You're born December. 206 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:24.559 Right, November late, November late. 207 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:25.960 I'm December fourth. 208 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:28.320 Within a week of each other, remember twenty six. 209 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:31.120 Yeah, so we are the same in so many different ways. 210 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:33.440 But we actually look like brother and sister. We do 211 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:36.440 some of you who've never noticed, Yeah, but yeah, we 212 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:40.200 do things financially very similarly online. 213 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:43.919 How should well, I should say, what is your recommendation 214 00:09:44.120 --> 00:09:47.440 for approaching paying for items online? 215 00:09:47.480 --> 00:09:49.759 There are a number of options. Let's say you go 216 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:50.879 to Amazon. 217 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:53.559 You can put in your credit card, or you know, 218 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:56.200 you can put in your gift card, or you can 219 00:09:56.759 --> 00:09:57.840 I think you can attach you to. 220 00:09:57.799 --> 00:09:58.840 A PayPal account. 221 00:09:58.919 --> 00:10:02.000 I mean, what is your recommend Well, I love PayPal. 222 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:05.799 If PayPal is an option, I pay by PayPal. They've 223 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:10.039 been in business. I was at their launch. I have 224 00:10:10.200 --> 00:10:13.399 the first T shirt from PayPal. I have the first 225 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:17.879 cap still in the plastic. I've trusted them. I know 226 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:20.799 how they run their business. I was in on it 227 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:23.759 in the beginning. I knew how they planned on making 228 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:25.840 money and how it was going to work, and it 229 00:10:25.879 --> 00:10:28.840 all made sense to me. And they had to be 230 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:30.480 very careful because they were the first. 231 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:33.559 They were the first, but they've also reaped the benefits 232 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:37.399 where they have I think the most relationships with online 233 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:39.639 retailers in places where people spend money. 234 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:41.559 I use PayPal as well. 235 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:45.039 I'm very comfortable using it, and whenever there was an issue, 236 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:46.679 they immediately addressed. 237 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:50.279 It right and Square for example, Yes, I have a 238 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:53.919 Square account as way, right now, I try all these 239 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:56.840 different things for my accounts and you know my podcast. 240 00:10:57.480 --> 00:11:02.039 And it turned out when I first started Square, I said, folks, 241 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:04.480 what about the sales tax? We have to be able 242 00:11:04.519 --> 00:11:09.120 to add sales tax to this. Then we don't do that. See, 243 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:12.080 and that's a business that's not thought through. So when 244 00:11:12.159 --> 00:11:15.399 you're dealing with a financial business, you want a business 245 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:20.919 that's thought through. Zell on the other hand, Mmmm, the app, 246 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:24.080 I don't see that as so thought through real well, 247 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:25.399 because of the security risks. 248 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:29.039 Maybe it's a generational difference. But when I talk to 249 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:33.360 people who are younger than me, I often hear zell. 250 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:38.799 I more often hear venmo and cash app. Cash app 251 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:44.159 seems like a bank robbery waiting to happen. More reputable 252 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:48.720 businesses will use person to person for Venmo. Right, where 253 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:52.799 do you come out on these cash exchange apps or 254 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:53.200 what happens? 255 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:56.559 Okay, here's the deal. If you're paying for a product 256 00:11:56.679 --> 00:12:00.759 or a service that you may need to write off 257 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:05.159 your small business or you may, you better not be 258 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:09.759 using it through any of these cash apps because you're 259 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:14.480 not getting a receipt that says what it's for that 260 00:12:14.519 --> 00:12:17.679 you can use for your business. When I do business 261 00:12:17.679 --> 00:12:21.759 with someone person to person and they're selling me something, 262 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:24.840 I asked them to send me a PayPal invoice, a 263 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:27.000 legit invoice, and I pay it. 264 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:29.159 You make a great point, because when I do my 265 00:12:29.759 --> 00:12:34.519 corporate taxes on personal taxes, the PayPal is because it's 266 00:12:34.559 --> 00:12:37.279 just itemized and I just go back there. 267 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:44.639 It is right, right, And that's the difference. One is professional. Unfortunately, 268 00:12:44.840 --> 00:12:50.639 technology is making people dumber. I'm sorry, I'll be sorry. 269 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:53.519 Sure you take a look at the apps. Even quick books, 270 00:12:53.559 --> 00:12:58.039 which used to be a robust, fabulous bookkeeping app is 271 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:02.480 now this simple little dorky thing online and a corporation 272 00:13:02.559 --> 00:13:05.639 can't use it. They have to use something else altogether, 273 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:09.399 because an accountant in the US government needs more information 274 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:13.039 than that app is gonna and they want us to 275 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:16.679 use less and less and have less control and throw 276 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:20.039 the control and it's all right, everything's fine, it's safe 277 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:24.080 and every yeah, until you get audited. When you get 278 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:24.879 audited again. 279 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:27.159 And I've been audited, so I know what that's like. 280 00:13:27.639 --> 00:13:31.919 You bet very invasive, right, how did you feel? It 281 00:13:32.039 --> 00:13:35.200 was less about what I felt. It was the inability 282 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:39.919 to actually talk to someone and being required to facts 283 00:13:40.519 --> 00:13:43.639 all this information that they were asking for because the 284 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:47.120 irs will not work by emails, like I can email 285 00:13:47.159 --> 00:13:49.240 you a PDF. No, you have to fax it to us. 286 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:51.360 It's like you gotta be kiddy. So it made it 287 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:54.519 very difficult to want fine fact services. I signed up 288 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:57.720 for a fact service to literally facts over this stuff. 289 00:13:57.840 --> 00:14:00.559 But it was, oh it was not only was it invasive, 290 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:03.240 it was a pain in the behind. And I don't 291 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:06.639 think people understand how many hoops you have. 292 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:07.159 To jump through. 293 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:09.679 Well, and one of the main things one of my 294 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:13.240 best selling books was starting an eBay business and not 295 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:18.279 taught people how to run a small business online in depth. 296 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:21.320 And the book still stands, and even though it was 297 00:14:21.360 --> 00:14:25.200 written a decade ago, it still stands because business practices 298 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:29.639 are business practices. And the thing is they're encouraging people 299 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:35.840 to do business now without proper backup, without proper documentation, 300 00:14:36.120 --> 00:14:40.799 like even eBay. Now, when they send the money to 301 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:47.200 the seller, they've already deducted their fees the postage. And 302 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:52.840 if you want to post everything correctly, which frankly a 303 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:55.519 lot of people don't do anymore, you have to go 304 00:14:55.559 --> 00:14:59.279 two steps back and figure out how much the fees 305 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:02.480 were was and then deduct that from the cost of 306 00:15:02.519 --> 00:15:05.480 goods sold or whatever. We'll keep anything you put it under. 307 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:09.440 They make it very hard and yet in the end 308 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:11.759 we have to pay the price. It's the same thing 309 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:15.600 with cars. You know they say the best car, this 310 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:17.919 is it. I mean, you know, we can talk about 311 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:22.000 cars all day, but once you've landed with one. I 312 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:28.120 heard Mark Thompson talking about is Tesla, you can get stuck. 313 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:31.960 You can't just walk in anymore and take somebody's word 314 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:34.759 for their software. That's why I do what I do. 315 00:15:34.840 --> 00:15:37.720 I test things I work on them. I don't take 316 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:42.960 freebies from companies because then they want you to review them. 317 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:45.080 Well, it almoso like you feel Obligated's like, we gave 318 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:46.159 you this product to review. 319 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:48.919 You can't just slam them. 320 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:52.240 It seems like it's almost inappropriate. 321 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:56.279 Well, when I accept something to review, I always if 322 00:15:56.279 --> 00:15:59.799 I accept it, I say if it sucks, I'm going 323 00:15:59.840 --> 00:16:01.039 to say it sucks. 324 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:04.480 Sweet it should be. So there you go, Marshall Collier. 325 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:06.440 It is always great to see you. It's even better 326 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:08.960 to learn from you. How can people reach you? 327 00:16:09.559 --> 00:16:13.879 I'm sadly still on X. I can't help. The algorithm 328 00:16:13.960 --> 00:16:18.039 is killing me on X, just just killing me, and 329 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:21.440 it's so futile. But I check there every day because 330 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:23.279 I have some friends that are on there, and I 331 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:25.919 look at their stuff every day, and I go through 332 00:16:25.960 --> 00:16:29.039 when somebody mentions me, so at me marsha at m 333 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:31.000 A R S H A C O L L I 334 00:16:31.039 --> 00:16:34.559 E R or go to Marshall Collier dot com and 335 00:16:34.840 --> 00:16:36.799 hit contact Marshall. 336 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:38.720 We'll see you next week. We'll have the cameras next week, 337 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:39.200 I promise. 338 00:16:40.600 --> 00:16:42.879 Okay, And I wore makeup and everything. 339 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:45.559 I'm sorry, you know, I wore Pattihose, I just like 340 00:16:45.559 --> 00:16:48.720 there's no reason for it. It's Later with Moe Kelly. 341 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:51.559 We'll see you soon. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 342 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:55.399 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from 343 00:16:55.519 --> 00:17:30.720 KFI A M six forty. 344 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:17.920 K A six forty is Later with Mo Kelly. We're 345 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:21.279 live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And last night we 346 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:24.400 had a guest in studio Fon Davis. We're talking about 347 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:28.839 the use of robots, the use of AI, and how 348 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:34.319 the humanoid robot still has this hold on us. And 349 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:36.119 I remember there was a line in the movie Age 350 00:17:36.119 --> 00:17:42.839 of Ultron where Ultron UH played by James Spader, talks about, 351 00:17:43.319 --> 00:17:45.279 or it's talked about how he keeps coming back to 352 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:49.400 the human form. And it got me thinking, because we 353 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:55.160 always look at robotics through that humanoid, anthropomorphic form. And 354 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:57.759 then I think I've came up with a reason why 355 00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:00.319 that is. It's because we live in a world world 356 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:05.119 built for humans. In other words, there's steps, they're stairs, 357 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:09.400 they're railings. The robots need to be able to maneuver 358 00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:13.119 our space, and you can't necessarily do it with a 359 00:18:13.160 --> 00:18:14.319 tank style robot. 360 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:17.039 With the rotating tread and everything. 361 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:20.559 It doesn't work everything everywhere, So I understand why the 362 00:18:20.680 --> 00:18:26.119 humanoid robot is still has such appeal. So when I 363 00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:29.680 read that Amazon is preparing to test humanoid robots for 364 00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:35.079 delivering packages, it makes sense, and it also further fuels 365 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:40.799 the idea where we need humanoid robots to navigate all 366 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:46.119 the human esque terrain out there. We don't need a humanoid, 367 00:18:46.160 --> 00:18:49.240 going back to my conversation last night with Von Davis, 368 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:52.279 we don't need a humanoid to drive a car. 369 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:54.720 You can just have the car be automated. 370 00:18:55.240 --> 00:18:58.680 But as far as Amazon is concerned, you may need 371 00:18:58.680 --> 00:19:01.960 a humanoid robot to physically deliver a package. Yes, there's 372 00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:06.039 drone technology limited, but if you think about all the 373 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:11.839 work that human Amazon drivers do, you can't do that 374 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:15.240 with a drone. You can't do that with a rollerbot 375 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:20.160 like they're used to deliver pizzas. We're eventually gonna have 376 00:19:20.359 --> 00:19:24.119 actual humanoid robots in our day to day lives. Now 377 00:19:24.799 --> 00:19:27.799 how soon don't know. It just says that Amazon is 378 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:30.640 preparing to test them. So you may see a humanoid 379 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:32.640 walking up to your door, and I don't know how 380 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:34.559 that's gonna work with porch pirates. 381 00:19:35.079 --> 00:19:37.960 Well, okay, a couple things. 382 00:19:38.400 --> 00:19:44.559 One, every single thing that humanity perceives and creates is 383 00:19:44.599 --> 00:19:48.400 in the humanoid form. Even when we look at alien movies, 384 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:50.319 there's a few that are just where the ailers are 385 00:19:50.359 --> 00:19:54.920 just these crazy looking monsters. But oftentimes the aliens that 386 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:58.799 we perceive, even in television film are humanoid. Why because 387 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:04.799 human humans accept humans, right, we don't accept We're not 388 00:20:04.799 --> 00:20:06.039 going to accept talking animals. 389 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:07.799 It's not happening. 390 00:20:08.039 --> 00:20:10.640 You want a robot to look like you because if 391 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:13.599 you see a tank looking robot, you instantly think doom, 392 00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:16.880 you think terror, you think terminators, you think something bad. 393 00:20:17.000 --> 00:20:18.559 But if it walks up to you looking like the 394 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:22.920 robots in I Robot, you know it's a little more fun. 395 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:26.119 And I do think I disagree with your conversation last 396 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:31.240 night that self driving taxis that is the thing that 397 00:20:31.480 --> 00:20:36.319 may have most people apprehensive. If you put a robot 398 00:20:36.440 --> 00:20:39.680 behind the steering wheel, more people will feel like, Okay, 399 00:20:39.839 --> 00:20:42.559 at least I see something that looks like me driving. 400 00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:46.599 Or it looks like it is controlling trolling as opposed. 401 00:20:46.039 --> 00:20:49.119