Speaker 1: Okay, okay, if I am six forty live everywhere in
Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app is tech Thursday. You know that means
Speaker 1: Marshall Caller joins me in studio. Marsh is great to
Speaker 1: have you here each and every week. How are you
Speaker 1: this evening.
Speaker 2: It's so great to actually see you because when we
Speaker 2: have a camera, I can't see you.
Speaker 1: I know they can't see the layout. The cameras will
Speaker 1: be back tomorrow, so I'm told. But you know, when
Speaker 1: we have the setup, we don't have direct line of sight.
Speaker 2: Using right and I like to look at Mo because
Speaker 2: I like to see his reactions and believe me, he reacts,
Speaker 2: Oh I do. If there's something that he doesn't like,
Speaker 2: there's a reaction.
Speaker 1: I you know, I know that Google recently, well I
Speaker 1: don't know if they announced tell me this. I know
Speaker 1: that they're supposed supposed to have their annual event in
Speaker 1: August of this year.
Speaker 2: Okay, they have a couple of events.
Speaker 1: Okay, which they release their next exel watch and phone
Speaker 1: and fold and.
Speaker 3: All that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Right, that'll be in August.
Speaker 1: But I'm not feeling any heat or momentum. We're already
Speaker 1: in June and people are not talking about it like
Speaker 1: they usually do.
Speaker 3: Are you feeling the same way about that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? For example, I saw the layout of the number
Speaker 2: of phones that Samsung has right now. It's ridiculous. It
Speaker 2: looks like about ten phones. Ten phones? What?
Speaker 3: Literally? Yeah?
Speaker 2: You know, I come eBay for dummies with my first book.
Speaker 2: I know about retail. That's too many skews for a
Speaker 2: phone company. SKU means stock keeping units, and that's the name.
Speaker 3: We're really dating ourselves.
Speaker 4: But go ahead, No they still use okay, well do
Speaker 4: they still call it the skews?
Speaker 3: Okay, skews?
Speaker 2: But yeah, so that's just too many to concentrate on.
Speaker 2: I say, okay, do three four phones?
Speaker 3: Do it?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Googled has four phones.
Speaker 1: Technically, if you called the pixel, which will be the
Speaker 1: ten You know, they have the pixel and the pixel XL.
Speaker 3: I count that as two phones.
Speaker 1: Then they have the pixel fold and I think there's
Speaker 1: one other that they have.
Speaker 2: Well, and when you look at Apple, they have that
Speaker 2: new skinny phone. You know, I didn't hear any hue
Speaker 2: and cry, hey, we want a skinny phone, We want
Speaker 2: a skinny phone. No, because I can see that just
Speaker 2: sliding out through your hands. One cool thing I did
Speaker 2: see is the company that makes the keyboard that snaps
Speaker 2: onto an Apple I phone.
Speaker 3: I see that. That's very cool.
Speaker 2: Has now made that for the pixel Do you have
Speaker 2: a Pixel nine?
Speaker 3: I have a Pixel nine A.
Speaker 2: It would take it.
Speaker 1: And if you don't know, everyone has a virtual keyboard
Speaker 1: right now, and there are companies more than one, which
Speaker 1: are making actual tactile physical keyboards to attach to your phone.
Speaker 3: I think it's called clicks clicks, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2: And what it does is it snaps onto your phone
Speaker 2: and you could actually use your thumbs. I can't use
Speaker 2: my thumbs on a screen. They slide on all around.
Speaker 1: I miss and I have more than just a few
Speaker 1: typos because I'm typing on a screen and it's not
Speaker 1: being unable to see it.
Speaker 3: It's just you can't feel where the right the letters are.
Speaker 2: Right back to the days of the old, you know,
Speaker 2: the BlackBerry, BlackBerry, absolutely the sidekick. These were phones that
Speaker 2: you could really feel the keys and it wasn't a
Speaker 2: key feeling. All we can say is it was like
Speaker 2: a bump and if you were in the middle of
Speaker 2: the bump, you knew you were there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't have to look at your hands, and
Speaker 1: you had a real sense of typing accurately.
Speaker 2: So they do make these, and hopefully the company will
Speaker 2: make it for other phones. I don't think they'll go
Speaker 2: backwards for the older phones, but I think that's a
Speaker 2: good thing because I wonder how much weight it sticks
Speaker 2: to it. Maybe I'll call them up and see if
Speaker 2: we can get one for you, mom.
Speaker 1: I'm willing to try it because I've wanted actual buttons
Speaker 1: for quite some time, but they had fallen out of
Speaker 1: favor with the demise of BlackBerry. And I do a
Speaker 1: lot of texting, so anything which enhances the keyboard experience
Speaker 1: I'm going to try.
Speaker 2: But I do have to tell you that I've started
Speaker 2: trying to dictating.
Speaker 3: My text speech to text. I'll do that as well.
Speaker 2: Yes, it does a pretty good job, and even when
Speaker 2: I look at the screen and I go, mmm, hasn't
Speaker 2: gotten it right, it'll all of a sudden correct itself
Speaker 2: to the right thing as it gets the rest of
Speaker 2: the sentence. But I'm not one of those people who
Speaker 2: like to sit and talk to my phone.
Speaker 1: I no, I don't do it either, with the exception
Speaker 1: of when I'm driving. Android Otto is beautiful and I
Speaker 1: can't recreate how it works.
Speaker 3: But it will ask me.
Speaker 1: I'll receive a text, it'll read it for me if
Speaker 1: I want it, It'll ask me do I want to reply?
Speaker 1: I say yes, and then it says, you know, what
Speaker 1: is it you want to say? And I'll say it,
Speaker 1: and then to say would you like to send? I
Speaker 1: say yes. And I can have text conversations in my
Speaker 1: car when I'm driving and never have to look at
Speaker 1: my phone.
Speaker 2: Well, I get distracted. I just you know, I have
Speaker 2: a thing. I don't do anything on my phone when
Speaker 2: I drive. Period. I don't want It's kind of like
Speaker 2: when I go on a plane and I fly a lot,
Speaker 2: I won't use the Wi Fi. I'm just there, the
Speaker 2: raw dog at it. I'll just put me on a plane,
Speaker 2: give me a meal, and give me a lay flat seat,
Speaker 2: and I'm in business.
Speaker 1: I don't see how you can do that, seriously, because
Speaker 1: you do enough international travel where there are some long
Speaker 1: hauls in between.
Speaker 2: Longest one I did was fourteen hours.
Speaker 1: I need at least four movies Wi Fi, And when
Speaker 1: I flew Korea Airlines to South Korea, there was no
Speaker 1: Wi Fi either coming or going.
Speaker 3: But I had already downloaded about six movies.
Speaker 2: You didn't sleep.
Speaker 1: I did do some sleeping, but also I'm very conscious
Speaker 1: of getting up and walking around so I don't develop
Speaker 1: blood clots and that kind of thing.
Speaker 3: So I'm not trying to sleep the whole time.
Speaker 2: So where I wear compression socks on long flights, have
Speaker 2: always have because I knew somebody that got that, and
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I had my brother in law's father who was a
Speaker 1: jazz musician. Unfortunately died at fifty seven because of an embolism.
Speaker 1: They thought that he got on a long haul.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw somebody collapse walking out of a plane.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Oh my god.
Speaker 3: It's a real thing. It's a very real thing.
Speaker 2: So yeah, if you're not going to if you're going
Speaker 2: to be on a long haul flight, at the very least,
Speaker 2: wear compression socks. Nobody has to know that their compression
Speaker 2: socks except once I wore compression pantyhose though, and then
Speaker 2: that was nothing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that's going to be something I'm
Speaker 4: going to see. Not a good idea consider, but you know,
Speaker 4: not on a long haul flight. But uh, yeah, I
Speaker 4: love sleeping. I love planes ever since I was a
Speaker 4: little girl. My first flight was I was four years old.
Speaker 1: I see I'm not all that comfortable sleeping on planes
Speaker 1: all the time because I'm not a nervous flyer. But
Speaker 1: I'm not a at ease flyer, so that's funny.
Speaker 2: And yet when I go on a plane, I think
Speaker 2: to myself, if I'm going to die now I'm doing
Speaker 2: something I love.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I get it. And that's part of the
Speaker 1: reason why I do fly. In other words, I'm going
Speaker 1: to be flying out to Rome as part of this
Speaker 1: cruise we were talking about last segment, So Joe, But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I don't like to fly, but it's
Speaker 1: got Do I want to go to Rome or not? Yeah?
Speaker 2: You kind of have to have a plane.
Speaker 1: No, No, I just have to have a jack neat
Speaker 1: and you know, do the best I can with.
Speaker 2: The movies I got, Yeah, and just be comfortable and
Speaker 2: enjoy it for what it is, because just flying it's
Speaker 2: a freaking miracle.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm probably so uncomfortable with it, because it's like,
Speaker 1: this is not supposed to stay in the air.
Speaker 2: Did you read the book by the captain that explained
Speaker 2: all of this. I read it once on a plane
Speaker 2: and it changed my whole outlook.
Speaker 1: I don't read about planes when I'm on the plane
Speaker 1: because I'm going to see something or read something which
Speaker 1: is going to make my mind more uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: Okay. I went to Buenos Ayres on business and I
Speaker 2: had to land in Santiago, and from Santiago to Buenos Aires,
Speaker 2: and I went up the Andes Mountains and I saw.
Speaker 3: Oh god, the movie the movie.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was right there. I mean we were climbing
Speaker 2: in the plane and I'm looking out the window and
Speaker 2: oh my god, that was the most horrifying thing I
Speaker 2: ever saw. But you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, there's certain places in the world I probably
Speaker 1: will never visit, if only because I've read enough about
Speaker 1: the approaches.
Speaker 3: Yeah, short runways, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: But I have a thing against volcanoes. Volcanoes are just
Speaker 2: you put a volcano somewhere. I'm not going You're not
Speaker 2: flying over the volcano. Now it's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 2: We're just riffing.
Speaker 1: It is Marshall Collier who joins us in studio on
Speaker 1: this Tech Thursday KFI AM six forty live everywhere in
Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
Speaker 5: K six forty KFI.
Speaker 3: Is Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 1: We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app and on this
Speaker 1: Tech Thursday. You know that means that Marcia Calier joins
Speaker 1: me in studio. Marsha, you and I we were talking
Speaker 1: during the break with there's some similarities in how we
Speaker 1: approach this online marketplace, how we spend money.
Speaker 2: Well, you and I have so many similarities. You're born December.
Speaker 3: Right, November late, November late.
Speaker 2: I'm December fourth.
Speaker 3: Within a week of each other, remember twenty six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we are the same in so many different ways.
Speaker 2: But we actually look like brother and sister. We do
Speaker 2: some of you who've never noticed, Yeah, but yeah, we
Speaker 2: do things financially very similarly online.
Speaker 1: How should well, I should say, what is your recommendation
Speaker 1: for approaching paying for items online?
Speaker 3: There are a number of options. Let's say you go
Speaker 3: to Amazon.
Speaker 1: You can put in your credit card, or you know,
Speaker 1: you can put in your gift card, or you can
Speaker 1: I think you can attach you to.
Speaker 3: A PayPal account.
Speaker 2: I mean, what is your recommend Well, I love PayPal.
Speaker 2: If PayPal is an option, I pay by PayPal. They've
Speaker 2: been in business. I was at their launch. I have
Speaker 2: the first T shirt from PayPal. I have the first
Speaker 2: cap still in the plastic. I've trusted them. I know
Speaker 2: how they run their business. I was in on it
Speaker 2: in the beginning. I knew how they planned on making
Speaker 2: money and how it was going to work, and it
Speaker 2: all made sense to me. And they had to be
Speaker 2: very careful because they were the first.
Speaker 1: They were the first, but they've also reaped the benefits
Speaker 1: where they have I think the most relationships with online
Speaker 1: retailers in places where people spend money.
Speaker 3: I use PayPal as well.
Speaker 1: I'm very comfortable using it, and whenever there was an issue,
Speaker 1: they immediately addressed.
Speaker 2: It right and Square for example, Yes, I have a
Speaker 2: Square account as way, right now, I try all these
Speaker 2: different things for my accounts and you know my podcast.
Speaker 2: And it turned out when I first started Square, I said, folks,
Speaker 2: what about the sales tax? We have to be able
Speaker 2: to add sales tax to this. Then we don't do that. See,
Speaker 2: and that's a business that's not thought through. So when
Speaker 2: you're dealing with a financial business, you want a business
Speaker 2: that's thought through. Zell on the other hand, Mmmm, the app,
Speaker 2: I don't see that as so thought through real well,
Speaker 2: because of the security risks.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a generational difference. But when I talk to
Speaker 1: people who are younger than me, I often hear zell.
Speaker 1: I more often hear venmo and cash app. Cash app
Speaker 1: seems like a bank robbery waiting to happen. More reputable
Speaker 1: businesses will use person to person for Venmo. Right, where
Speaker 1: do you come out on these cash exchange apps or
Speaker 1: what happens?
Speaker 2: Okay, here's the deal. If you're paying for a product
Speaker 2: or a service that you may need to write off
Speaker 2: your small business or you may, you better not be
Speaker 2: using it through any of these cash apps because you're
Speaker 2: not getting a receipt that says what it's for that
Speaker 2: you can use for your business. When I do business
Speaker 2: with someone person to person and they're selling me something,
Speaker 2: I asked them to send me a PayPal invoice, a
Speaker 2: legit invoice, and I pay it.
Speaker 1: You make a great point, because when I do my
Speaker 1: corporate taxes on personal taxes, the PayPal is because it's
Speaker 1: just itemized and I just go back there.
Speaker 2: It is right, right, And that's the difference. One is professional. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: technology is making people dumber. I'm sorry, I'll be sorry.
Speaker 2: Sure you take a look at the apps. Even quick books,
Speaker 2: which used to be a robust, fabulous bookkeeping app is
Speaker 2: now this simple little dorky thing online and a corporation
Speaker 2: can't use it. They have to use something else altogether,
Speaker 2: because an accountant in the US government needs more information
Speaker 2: than that app is gonna and they want us to
Speaker 2: use less and less and have less control and throw
Speaker 2: the control and it's all right, everything's fine, it's safe
Speaker 2: and every yeah, until you get audited. When you get
Speaker 2: audited again.
Speaker 1: And I've been audited, so I know what that's like.
Speaker 1: You bet very invasive, right, how did you feel? It
Speaker 1: was less about what I felt. It was the inability
Speaker 1: to actually talk to someone and being required to facts
Speaker 1: all this information that they were asking for because the
Speaker 1: irs will not work by emails, like I can email
Speaker 1: you a PDF. No, you have to fax it to us.
Speaker 1: It's like you gotta be kiddy. So it made it
Speaker 1: very difficult to want fine fact services. I signed up
Speaker 1: for a fact service to literally facts over this stuff.
Speaker 1: But it was, oh it was not only was it invasive,
Speaker 1: it was a pain in the behind. And I don't
Speaker 1: think people understand how many hoops you have.
Speaker 3: To jump through.
Speaker 2: Well, and one of the main things one of my
Speaker 2: best selling books was starting an eBay business and not
Speaker 2: taught people how to run a small business online in depth.
Speaker 2: And the book still stands, and even though it was
Speaker 2: written a decade ago, it still stands because business practices
Speaker 2: are business practices. And the thing is they're encouraging people
Speaker 2: to do business now without proper backup, without proper documentation,
Speaker 2: like even eBay. Now, when they send the money to
Speaker 2: the seller, they've already deducted their fees the postage. And
Speaker 2: if you want to post everything correctly, which frankly a
Speaker 2: lot of people don't do anymore, you have to go
Speaker 2: two steps back and figure out how much the fees
Speaker 2: were was and then deduct that from the cost of
Speaker 2: goods sold or whatever. We'll keep anything you put it under.
Speaker 2: They make it very hard and yet in the end
Speaker 2: we have to pay the price. It's the same thing
Speaker 2: with cars. You know they say the best car, this
Speaker 2: is it. I mean, you know, we can talk about
Speaker 2: cars all day, but once you've landed with one. I
Speaker 2: heard Mark Thompson talking about is Tesla, you can get stuck.
Speaker 2: You can't just walk in anymore and take somebody's word
Speaker 2: for their software. That's why I do what I do.
Speaker 2: I test things I work on them. I don't take
Speaker 2: freebies from companies because then they want you to review them.
Speaker 1: Well, it almoso like you feel Obligated's like, we gave
Speaker 1: you this product to review.
Speaker 3: You can't just slam them.
Speaker 1: It seems like it's almost inappropriate.
Speaker 2: Well, when I accept something to review, I always if
Speaker 2: I accept it, I say if it sucks, I'm going
Speaker 2: to say it sucks.
Speaker 1: Sweet it should be. So there you go, Marshall Collier.
Speaker 1: It is always great to see you. It's even better
Speaker 1: to learn from you. How can people reach you?
Speaker 2: I'm sadly still on X. I can't help. The algorithm
Speaker 2: is killing me on X, just just killing me, and
Speaker 2: it's so futile. But I check there every day because
Speaker 2: I have some friends that are on there, and I
Speaker 2: look at their stuff every day, and I go through
Speaker 2: when somebody mentions me, so at me marsha at m
Speaker 2: A R S H A C O L L I
Speaker 2: E R or go to Marshall Collier dot com and
Speaker 2: hit contact Marshall.
Speaker 3: We'll see you next week. We'll have the cameras next week,
Speaker 3: I promise.
Speaker 2: Okay, And I wore makeup and everything.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you know, I wore Pattihose, I just like
Speaker 1: there's no reason for it. It's Later with Moe Kelly.
Speaker 1: We'll see you soon. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
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Speaker 5: KFI A M six forty.
Speaker 1: K A six forty is Later with Mo Kelly. We're
Speaker 1: live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And last night we
Speaker 1: had a guest in studio Fon Davis. We're talking about
Speaker 1: the use of robots, the use of AI, and how
Speaker 1: the humanoid robot still has this hold on us. And
Speaker 1: I remember there was a line in the movie Age
Speaker 1: of Ultron where Ultron UH played by James Spader, talks about,
Speaker 1: or it's talked about how he keeps coming back to
Speaker 1: the human form. And it got me thinking, because we
Speaker 1: always look at robotics through that humanoid, anthropomorphic form. And
Speaker 1: then I think I've came up with a reason why
Speaker 1: that is. It's because we live in a world world
Speaker 1: built for humans. In other words, there's steps, they're stairs,
Speaker 1: they're railings. The robots need to be able to maneuver
Speaker 1: our space, and you can't necessarily do it with a
Speaker 1: tank style robot.
Speaker 3: With the rotating tread and everything.
Speaker 1: It doesn't work everything everywhere, So I understand why the
Speaker 1: humanoid robot is still has such appeal. So when I
Speaker 1: read that Amazon is preparing to test humanoid robots for
Speaker 1: delivering packages, it makes sense, and it also further fuels
Speaker 1: the idea where we need humanoid robots to navigate all
Speaker 1: the human esque terrain out there. We don't need a humanoid,
Speaker 1: going back to my conversation last night with Von Davis,
Speaker 1: we don't need a humanoid to drive a car.
Speaker 3: You can just have the car be automated.
Speaker 1: But as far as Amazon is concerned, you may need
Speaker 1: a humanoid robot to physically deliver a package. Yes, there's
Speaker 1: drone technology limited, but if you think about all the
Speaker 1: work that human Amazon drivers do, you can't do that
Speaker 1: with a drone. You can't do that with a rollerbot
Speaker 1: like they're used to deliver pizzas. We're eventually gonna have
Speaker 1: actual humanoid robots in our day to day lives. Now
Speaker 1: how soon don't know. It just says that Amazon is
Speaker 1: preparing to test them. So you may see a humanoid
Speaker 1: walking up to your door, and I don't know how
Speaker 1: that's gonna work with porch pirates.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, a couple things.
Speaker 6: One, every single thing that humanity perceives and creates is
Speaker 6: in the humanoid form. Even when we look at alien movies,
Speaker 6: there's a few that are just where the ailers are
Speaker 6: just these crazy looking monsters. But oftentimes the aliens that
Speaker 6: we perceive, even in television film are humanoid. Why because
Speaker 6: human humans accept humans, right, we don't accept We're not
Speaker 6: going to accept talking animals.
Speaker 3: It's not happening.
Speaker 6: You want a robot to look like you because if
Speaker 6: you see a tank looking robot, you instantly think doom,
Speaker 6: you think terror, you think terminators, you think something bad.
Speaker 6: But if it walks up to you looking like the
Speaker 6: robots in I Robot, you know it's a little more fun.
Speaker 6: And I do think I disagree with your conversation last
Speaker 6: night that self driving taxis that is the thing that
Speaker 6: may have most people apprehensive. If you put a robot
Speaker 6: behind the steering wheel, more people will feel like, Okay,
Speaker 6: at least I see something that looks like me driving.
Speaker 1: Or it looks like it is controlling trolling as opposed.
Speaker 3: To some AI that we can't see.
Speaker 1: And if there's an issue, I got to make a
Speaker 1: phone call there's no one there to really help me.
Speaker 3: And it's more psychological than anything exactly.
Speaker 6: Not seeing someone con turning the steering wheel and hitting
Speaker 6: the gas. It unnerves us because it takes away our
Speaker 6: sense of control once this happens. Once this happens, the
Speaker 6: most tragic thing that I think we need to look
Speaker 6: at is this is not just the end of any
Speaker 6: and all delivery services, but this is going to be
Speaker 6: the end of a lot of jobs because robots delivering packages.
Speaker 6: It's just right next to robots checking out groceries. Robots,
Speaker 6: you know, yes, And.
Speaker 1: According to this, they would have a human driver and
Speaker 1: then the humanoid delivering the actual package, so the driver
Speaker 1: doesn't have to get out the car and unload the
Speaker 1: package and take it up to the doorstep. And they're
Speaker 1: conducting these trials in a warehouse. They are practicing with
Speaker 1: the drone excuse me, with the humanoid robots to see
Speaker 1: their limitations. And that goes back to what we've seen
Speaker 1: with Boston Dynamics. You know, they can run a park
Speaker 1: core course. I'm quite sure they can handle some steps
Speaker 1: and liver packages. This is the future now. It may
Speaker 1: not be three years from now, but this is the future.
Speaker 1: And to your point, that means those jobs are gone.
Speaker 1: We know that they can automate driving, but if you
Speaker 1: can automate driving and then also automate the package delivery portion,
Speaker 1: how many thousands of jobs have just disappeared?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, If Amazon can get the robotaxi my term technology
Speaker 1: and use it for the delivery portion of their business,
Speaker 1: how many drivers are out of work? How many fewer
Speaker 1: headaches does Amazon have to have because they don't have
Speaker 1: to deal with employee dissatisfaction, wanting to unionize, begging for
Speaker 1: more money, Complaints about Amazon drivers defecating in someone's yard
Speaker 1: because they don't have time to go to the bathroom normally,
Speaker 1: all those problems disappear.
Speaker 6: Well, we know that Alphabet is doing massive testing in
Speaker 6: Las Vegas, even though they did have to recall vehicles
Speaker 6: because of some accidents that a few of their fleet
Speaker 6: vehicles got into. But they instantly saw that and they said, hey,
Speaker 6: we've got the billions to throw at this, we will
Speaker 6: fix this in short orders. They took several cars off
Speaker 6: the road and they're already back up and running in
Speaker 6: Vegas testing their self driving vehicle technology. Now, one thing
Speaker 6: that they haven't really said is what the self driving
Speaker 6: vehicles are for. They weren't really clear on if they
Speaker 6: were robotaxis or delivery vehicles.
Speaker 3: But they're still.
Speaker 1: Taking somebody's job. And if you don't know, Alphabet is
Speaker 1: the parent company to Google. They're doing some sort of
Speaker 1: delivery function, some sort of service function. They are going
Speaker 1: to remove the human element to whether it's taxis or
Speaker 1: service or delivery. It means that some human is not
Speaker 1: going to be needed anymore when the technology is perfected,
Speaker 1: at least to the point where people feel it safe
Speaker 1: and we're comfortable with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I wasn't.
Speaker 1: A believer that they could use these kind of street
Speaker 1: level drones. And they look like shopping carts, little shopping carts, wheelbarrows.
Speaker 1: And I see them now in downtown LA all the
Speaker 1: time delivering food.
Speaker 6: Oh no, no, no, I know someone who owns a
Speaker 6: firm down there, and that is how they get there.
Speaker 6: Because they're always in meetings and they cannot run out
Speaker 6: and go get something. They have the robots, and the
Speaker 6: robot will come and meet them at the door downstairs
Speaker 6: at the lobby. They will go down late and they
Speaker 6: will just go and get the food. Open the door.
Speaker 6: Robots right there waiting for them. I'm like, how did
Speaker 6: the robot get that? They're like, I guess maybe it's
Speaker 6: using ramps. I don't know how the robot is getting it's.
Speaker 1: Using disabled corners where we'll go up like wheelchair ramps.
Speaker 3: It can.
Speaker 1: How it navigates around the city with street lights and everything,
Speaker 1: it's amazing.
Speaker 3: How does it know? How does it know? Like, Oh,
Speaker 3: I'll bring the food to your door, to your great door.
Speaker 3: That took somebody's job.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's Later with mo Kelly, I am six
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Speaker 1: with that, when we come back, we have a way
Speaker 1: more update. They're getting a little bit more assertive and
Speaker 1: they're driving more like humans. Is that good or is
Speaker 1: that bad? Is it more dangerous or more in alignment
Speaker 1: with what human drivers would expect and better react to.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about that next.
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Speaker 1: It's Moe Kelly Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And
Speaker 1: if you follow the conversation around self driving technology, it
Speaker 1: was always one usually about whether Weimo or other autonomous
Speaker 1: vehicles would follow all the laws of the road.
Speaker 3: That was the expectation.
Speaker 1: It would acknowledge construction site, it would stay at a
Speaker 1: crosswalk for the requisite amount of time that someone were
Speaker 1: car crossing the street. That was the expectation. And there
Speaker 1: was sometimes where these vehicles would get confused my word,
Speaker 1: and not necessarily know how to react. There's either been
Speaker 1: a software upgrade or the software is designed to learn
Speaker 1: on its own. Because people are noticing that Weimo vehicles
Speaker 1: are being a little bit more aggressive and taking more license.
Speaker 1: Like for example, let's say three months ago, if you
Speaker 1: were to encounter a way Moo at a crosswalk, you'd
Speaker 1: have someone in the crosswalk as a pedestrian crossing the street,
Speaker 1: and the Weimo would not move forward until that pedestrian
Speaker 1: had completely crossed the street and also reached the other sidewalk.
Speaker 1: Now it is acting more like a human driver, where
Speaker 1: the pedestrian may have crossed let's say to the other
Speaker 1: side and almost is at the sidewalk, But then the
Speaker 1: WEIMO will start itching forward and start rolling through the
Speaker 1: intersection that stops signed and not wait for the pedestrian
Speaker 1: to go to the other side, more like a human driver.
Speaker 1: It's not illegal, but it's not following the rules of
Speaker 1: the road to the letter. It's acting more and more human,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if that's good or bad when
Speaker 1: we talk about whether these vehicles are safe, because one
Speaker 1: of the biggest criticisms about human drivers is the human mentality,
Speaker 1: the aggressive driving mentality, the types of chances that a
Speaker 1: human driver would take, or I would say, just it
Speaker 1: would do things that a machine most likely would not
Speaker 1: or should not, or we would make a dangerous lane pass,
Speaker 1: or we would be more aggressive in our maneuvers that
Speaker 1: a way mo heretofore was not.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's programming or if it's just
Speaker 1: learning on its.
Speaker 3: Own and adapting to the environment. I don't know that,
Speaker 3: but it is aware. I should say.
Speaker 1: People who are testing waymo's are noticing that they're becoming
Speaker 1: more and more assertive like human.
Speaker 6: Drivers, less aggressive, more assertive, and the assertive learning. Let's
Speaker 6: call it of Weaymo is actually a benefit for the
Speaker 6: self driving autonomous vehicles because some of the highest complaints
Speaker 6: against weymo is it's inassertive driving behavior, in that it
Speaker 6: may come up to something like a pothole and won't
Speaker 6: make the decision to immediately go around. We'll sit there
Speaker 6: and think about it, will come to an accident and
Speaker 6: not make a decision quick enough to go around. A
Speaker 6: lot of that those are the complaints that are coming
Speaker 6: in to waymore, and I believe these complaints are allowing
Speaker 6: Waymo Central to factor this into the AI learning to say, hey,
Speaker 6: we appreciate our vehicles stopping and waiting a full to
Speaker 6: the person's all the way on the other side of
Speaker 6: street where you got cars behind it, beat me saying dude,
Speaker 6: the person go go and beat me now the way
Speaker 6: most like, hey, you've crossed my path. You're no longer
Speaker 6: in danger in me hitting you, zoom, let me go through.
Speaker 6: That's a boom for weymo. I hope so.
Speaker 1: And you know, I wanted to be more reactive to
Speaker 1: real live circumstances. I don't want it to be stuck
Speaker 1: in the street because someone put a cone in front
Speaker 1: of it, which was a problem before.
Speaker 3: Hopefully they've they've worked that out.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be able to recognize danger and a
Speaker 1: changing landscape and maybe it'll get there sooner or later
Speaker 1: they've When we last talked about Weymo, we talked about
Speaker 1: how it was Weimo versus Tesla and they had two
Speaker 1: business insider journalists in the back seat and they noticed
Speaker 1: how a Weimo didn't wait for this car who was
Speaker 1: just stuck at the light, maybe not a huge driver,
Speaker 1: not paying attention on their phone, just decided to go
Speaker 1: around the human driver and keep on going because it
Speaker 1: realized it was a green light and there's obviously this
Speaker 1: obstacle in front of me. Let me just go around
Speaker 1: the obstacle. We're here too fore it would not do that.
Speaker 1: So it is learning along with us. It is improving
Speaker 1: over time. I'm not getting in one. I'm not getting
Speaker 1: on a subway Sunday, and I'm not getting into.
Speaker 6: Waymoul tast's ready. You're almost ready for the Weymo. I
Speaker 6: will never encourage a metro ride, but Waymo, I think
Speaker 6: we're almost there yet.
Speaker 1: No one's been shanked as of yet in a Weymo
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