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Speaker 2: Here is what a lot of conservatives have been.

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Speaker 1: Thinking for people on the left, our friends on the

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left who may not understand, who may not understand, what

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conservatives are thinking today after the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 2: We are wondering.

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Speaker 1: If the ability to discuss issues and policies with one

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another has been lost, gone forever because we thought most

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conservatives thought I would I feel comfortable saying this, and

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I would like to believe most Americans thought that we

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could respect each other as human beings with different opinions.

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Somewhere along the line, I think this has become an

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antiquated way of thinking. And if you cannot respect each

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other and each other's humanity, then.

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Speaker 2: What is left right?

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Speaker 1: And if you don't respect another person's opinion their ability

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to disagree with you, then are we to believe that

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you hate us for these opinions?

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Speaker 2: Are we to believe that we are.

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Speaker 1: Seen as obstacles for whatever utopian vision you want to enact,

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and therefore you want.

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Speaker 2: Us dead too?

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Speaker 1: Because if you go on to social media and you

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go look not very hard, particularly blue Sky for example,

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Reddit is another one, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, it's all over.

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There is a not small percentage of people that are

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celebrating people in positions institutional, respected positions, teachers, school administrators,

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government employees. Right there are people celebrating the murder of

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a thirty one year old man, father of two, for

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what he says, for what he talks about, for his opinions.

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Charlie Kirk and I've said the same thing for years,

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which is when the talking stops, the violence begins. And

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that's why you engage in political discourse. If you cannot

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engage in political discourse, because that's what politics is. It's

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the debate and discussion about ideas and policies and how

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to govern ourselves, how we function in this man made

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construct of a constitutional republic, how we govern ourselves. If

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we can't debate these things, then the only thing left

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is force.

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Speaker 2: That's it. Now, maybe some people think that they will.

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Speaker 1: Be on the booted side of that force. Nobody ever

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likes to think of themselves as being under the boot

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in that equation. I suspect, but that's what Charlie Kirk believed.

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He would say so frequently, when the talking stops, the

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violence starts, and that's what is to be avoided. We

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need to avoid the violence. And for going on to

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college campuses speaking with college kids challenging their ideas. I've

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said this for twenty years. Unchallenged ideas are easy to

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hold easy. Nobody ever challenges you on him. And so

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when Charlie Kirk would go to campuses and he would

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take questions and answers from college kids. And by the way,

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he would defend the college kids who disagreed with him.

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They would come up to a microphone. He would treat

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them with civility and respect. They would debate a topic,

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they would ask him a question, they would go back

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and forth. And if the crowd around him and like,

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look the people who show up to see a Charlie

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Kirk event at the colleges they were. They were more

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often Charlie Kirk supporters, and somebody would get up at

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the microphone and they would say some stuff and the

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crowd would uh boo boo, you know whatever, and Charlie

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Kirk would always silence them say stop, no, no, no,

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let her speak, let him speak, go ahead, make your

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point whatever, and have the debate and do it in

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a face to face civil manner.

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Speaker 2: And they killed him. Who do you think comes after him?

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Speaker 1: See this is what is troubling me because if this

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is what a civilian faces. Because Charlie Kirk was not

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a politician, he had no power right except his voice. Now,

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he built up talking or sorry, turning point USA. He

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built them up, created this organization, harnessed the power of

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yeah young voters, got them engaged, but also gave them

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purpose and direction, particularly young men who desperately need that

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and were not getting it. And he advised them get involved,

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go to church, get married, have kids, be responsible, all

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of the things that we would expect a male role model,

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no matter the age, to tell young people, particularly young men.

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And so to see the multi generational impact of his murder. Yesterday, boomers,

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gen xers, gen z, everybody in between. There are people.

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Charlie Kirk's been doing this for fifteen years. That's a

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generation of kids through multiple turns of the four year

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college programs that he's been going on to campuses doing

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these videos. People have been watching him from the time

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he was an eighteen year old to now to thirty one,

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and you murdered him because you disagreed with him.

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Speaker 2: That's what this comes down to.

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Speaker 1: He was murdered because people did not want to hear him.

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And this goes back to what Andrew Claven talked about

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back in two thousand.

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Speaker 2: That's what this is.

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Speaker 1: In all the different forms, whether it's online censorship, deplatforming, cancellation,

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whatever it is, murder, it's about shut up. We're not

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going to engage in the debate with you. See, they

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murdered Charlie Kirk because he's effective. He was effective. You

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didn't have to agree with them. I didn't agree with

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him on everything. I mean, I followed him on Twitter

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and I would see some of his interviews.

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Speaker 2: I watched one.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, yesterday morning he was on

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with Mark Halperin talking about the Charlotte light rail stabbing.

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He's a commentator, he was a radio host. And here's

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the thing. He was murdered because he was famous and

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for what he was saying. And it has a lot

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of people on the right now concerned that the only

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difference between a left wing nut job murdering Charlie Kirk

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and I have full confidence in saying that at this

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point that that's where this is going. The evidence, it's

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all falling out in the exact pattern I expected it

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to as soon as I heard of the shooting. I

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did not say this on the air, but I made

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a prediction to producer Nick and producer Bernie. I said,

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this is what I think is going to be about,

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and it is now falling into place. And conservatives are

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wondering if they did this to him, and I agree

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with Charlie, does that mean they would do that to me?

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times like these, It stays like these where I feel

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like an impostor because I'm trying to find sort of

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the right thing to say in a time of mourning

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and a time of grief and anger. And you know,

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I always struggle to find the words, and I find

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other people to be far more eloquent with their thoughts

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and their words, And so I compile lots of different

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things that I come across that capture what people are.

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Speaker 2: Thinking and what I'm thinking and how I'm feeling.

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Speaker 1: And one of them is Romans twelve twenty one Do

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not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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And Andrew Walker, he's an ethics and public theology professor

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at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, and he said, remember that

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political violence is the refuge of a losing political movement

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that cannot make good arguments or persuade naturally, so they

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resort to raw power to quote win. But their manner

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of victory is actually an admission of defeat that the

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ideas themselves can't win. Charlie Kirk was the antithesis of

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this loser mentality, a happy warrior, persuasive, daring, and fearless.

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And I see one of our trolls on the text line, Yes,

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I have identified you that you don't know who is they.

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The suspect is still at large. You're making a lot

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of assumptions about the shooter's motive. The Butler shooter was

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deranged and had no political motivation, Joe, do you know that?

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Because the like, we don't really know a whole lot

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about that Butler shooter.

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Speaker 2: Do we now?

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Speaker 1: The other guy Ryan Ruth or Ruth, the other attempted

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assassin of Donald Trump. He's representing himself and look, he's

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definitely crazy, but he is animated by leftist arguments. You guys, like,

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I'm done playing this game now, see yesterday. Change has

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changed all of this For me. I'm done playing this

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game where you pretend that your words don't inspire any

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kind of political violence against people on the right, and

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then you seize or pounce on any kind of violence

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that even tangentially may be related to the quote right,

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I'm seeing one seeing people that are referencing the murder

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of the Minnesota Speaker of the House a couple of

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months ago, and how though that was a Republican appointee.

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That was a Republican Yeah, who was who claimed to

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have done it.

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Speaker 2: In order to help Tim Walls.

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Speaker 1: So I understand that things don't always fall naturally into

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like a political camp. However, the news that has come

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out today is that they have recovered the weapon. They've

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recovered AMMO, and on the AMMO are carvings, there's there's

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language on the carvings and you'll never guess what the

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language on the on the the unspent AMMO is. Yeah,

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you probably will transgender stuff and quote anti fascism stuff,

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but I'm sure it has.

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Speaker 2: Nothing to do with politics.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, there are plenty of other reasons why

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a deranged person would target Charlie Kirk from a high

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perch sniper position at a college campus, firing a single

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shot to kill him. See that when you when you

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see the way it happened, and you know the details,

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and you've been doing this as long as I've been

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doing it. There are certain things that become immediately apparent,

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even if I don't say them on the air, because

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I do wait for more information to come out, as

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I advised everybody to do yesterday. But now we have

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more information, and the information tracks with exactly what I

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initially thought. Most types of these shootings, right, they are

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obviously deranged individuals. I would not be surprised if this

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turns out to be another one of those individuals motivated

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by a belief that they are in the wrong body

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and that they are literally being erased, that they are

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that people like Charlie Kirk are an existential threat to them,

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that this is a war against trands.

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Speaker 2: That's where this is leading. That's what this looks like.

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It may not be.

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Speaker 1: Maybe find a manifesto and it turns out that it's

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a right winger that is mad that Charlie didn't go

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far enough, because yeah, that makes sense, or as another

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popular conspiracy among the Wolk white is now and the

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anti Semites is that the Mossade took him out, that

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the Israelis killed him for some reason or another. Like, No,

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sometimes the most obvious explanation is the real explanation. It's

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called Ockham's razor, and it is actually often the case.

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Charlie Kirk was obviously targeted for his politics. I'm not

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going to pretend that this is like a both sides

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ism kind of a thing. I've said it for now

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several years that the left has a violence fetish and

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you guys have proven yourself completely incapable of raining it

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in on the left. So no, like, you're not going

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to gaslight me and you're getting no benefit of the

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doubt anymore, not for me, at least maybe from others,

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but not for me. So when I was a kid,

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my grandpa died with Alzheimer's, and before he died, my

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mom and my dad took care of him as he

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got worse. Forty years ago, there were no treatments and

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not much support for caregivers and family. But things are

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different today because of the work of so many people,

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including the Alzheimer's Association of Western Carolina. It's a great

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organization with awesome people with huge hearts. I've been a

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supporter for twenty five years. This cause means a lot

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to me. I participate in the annual Walk to end

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Alzheimer's and I'm leading a Charlotte team again this year,

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and it's called once again Pete's Pack. You can sign

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up and you can join the team and walk with us.

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It's on October eighteenth, that truest field. Sign up at

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alz dot org slash Walk and then you can search

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for my team name Pete's Pack. There's also a link

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at thepetepod dot com. There's also a link in the

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description of this podcast. Also, I'll be am seeing the

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Gastonia Walk on October eleventh, and so you can make

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a team and join that one too, or make a

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donation and help me hit my goal of five thousand dollars.

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If you do, I really appreciate it. There are a

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bunch of other walks all over the Carolinas. You can

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go to alz dot org slash walk for all the

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dates and locations. We're closer than ever to stopping Alzheimer's.

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Can you help us get there? Will you walk with me?

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For a different future for families? For more time for treatments.

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This is why we walk. Here's a pete tweet from Eric,

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who says the people who have spent the last decade

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shrieking that anyone even tangentially to the right is an

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evil Nazi who must be stopped by any means necessary,

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suddenly want to pretend that their words were meaningless when

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some deranged lunatic heeds the call. Yeah, And this is

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why I'm That's why I'm done listening to their words

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at this point. I'm watching their actions because your words

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mean nothing. They don't mean anything to me anymore. Let

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me go over to the phones, and all right, let's

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start with Chris.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Hello, Chris, Hey, how you doing?

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Speaker 3: First of all, eight years in the United States Marine

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Corps therm this country armor, honorably.

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Speaker 2: Welcome on them.

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Speaker 3: I grew up in the South in the sixties, and

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I am a minority. And the thing about all the few,

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about all the folk called hate and discord and marginalizing

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people all started when making America great again.

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Speaker 2: They didn't all start there.

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Speaker 3: That's where it basically when it all started.

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Speaker 1: It didn't know it's been It's been a part of

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the human condition since the humans began.

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Speaker 3: Speaking, America ever been great again for minorities?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, Chris.

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Speaker 1: The the use of language, this all right, Chris. The

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use of language, uh, to demonize and to degrade has

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been around since language was developed.

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Speaker 2: Did not begin with Mega, Okay, it did not.

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Speaker 1: I will bring you back on, but I'm on location here,

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I am on a remote location, so there's a bit

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of a leg So I'm trying to give you time

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to make your points. But that is not correct. The

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rhetoric did not get bad with Donald Trump. There was

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bad rhetoric before.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in the sixties and all these other people. Yeah

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did back back in the sixties and sixties and all that.

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Speaker 2: That's before then too.

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Speaker 3: When has this country ever been with great for modulized minorities?

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When can become me? When that's what we again.

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Speaker 2: So you're so, I want to be clear, Chris.

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Speaker 1: You're using the assassination of a conservative radio host to

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talk about the plight of minorities in America.

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Speaker 3: That's just part of it.

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Speaker 4: The thing about it.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that, Chris, Chris, do you think let's

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think about hang on, Chris, Chris, Let's think about Chris, Chris,

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Chris Okay, then you're done, Chris. Let's think about you're

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back on hold. This is how I'm gonna have to

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do it with you, I guess. Let's think about the

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moment we are in. Let's think about how angry half

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of the country is. And I'm talking really really angry,

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and you served so you know these people I'm talking about,

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right they are trained, they have weaponry, they are angry.

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You've just seen the murder of somebody that your kids

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look up to, your kids respect, that you feel like

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is your friend. Charlie Kirk reached millions and millions of

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people that they feel like they know him, and he

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just got assassinated. And you want to blame conservatives for it.

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Think about the moment you're in for a minute and

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think about are you actually winning anybody over right now

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with this line of uh, with this line of argument.

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So I will ask that to you. Do you think

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that you are winning over any hearts or minds, persuading

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anybody right now with this line of argument?

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Speaker 3: Do you expect you return when you still hate and

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give out? What do you expect in return?

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Speaker 2: I expect to be I expect to not be murdered.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you're having a political If you're having a

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political debate about an issue, I expect you don't kill me.

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Speaker 2: Is that too much to ask?

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Speaker 1: Bro?

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Speaker 3: It's karma.

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Speaker 2: So he deserved it.

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Speaker 3: This country has a problem with guns.

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Speaker 1: Too, No, Chris, Chris, let's stay on the Let's stay

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on the point that you're making, which is he deserved

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it because he was saying things that you don't like.

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Speaker 3: Well, he'll hate me.

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Speaker 4: You think it's hate, and so it takes me away.

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Speaker 3: These two was rights goes to the rights. They're going

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to push back.

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Speaker 2: He didn't take. He wasn't arguing about taking people's rights.

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Speaker 3: It's karma.

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Speaker 2: See again, Chris, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I want to, Chris, I really do, sincerely thank you

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for highlighting the exact mentality that conservatives believe half of

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the country feels towards them. And what you're telling me

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is that if I disagree with you on a policy,

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then you.

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Speaker 2: Can kill me. Way, he didn't take anything away from anybody.

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He was a civilian, Chris. He didn't take a single thing.

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Speaker 3: He did not take in the schoolroom.

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Speaker 4: When you do it, Chris, Chris, he didn't, Chris.

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Speaker 1: All right, you're back on hold, Chris. He did not

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take a single thing from a single person. He didn't

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take anything. He had no power to take anything from anybody.

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He got engaged in political discourse, and he said, we

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have to keep talking, we have to keep debating. He

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would go on campuses specifically to do so, because when

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you stop talking, then violence breaks out. And the fear

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now and the anger that a lot of people on

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the right have is exactly what you just articulated. This

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is what they think, most leftists and most Democrats think.

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And Chris, you've just articulated that everything. So how am

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I supposed to Chris? How am I supposed to now

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deal with you when we're if I encounter you and

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you disagree with me, and I now know that you

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think I should die? What do you think I'm going

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to approach you doing?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I don't think you should die?

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Speaker 2: Yes, you do. You just said that. You just said

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it was karma.

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Speaker 4: Husband hag got bashed in in half the country laughed

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and bush it was her? What about that?

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Speaker 2: What about what I missed the first part of what

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you said? What about what.

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Speaker 4: About when husband's head got bashed in and the president

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himself laughed and made a joke of it, and he wushed,

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that was her what about that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So I I objected to that.

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Speaker 1: There were a lot of people on the right that

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were angry at the way Trump handled that.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Once the hate speech stopped from the top, it was

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stopped in the bottom, it sold down just like a weever.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So all right, so okay, let's all right, So

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let's let's follow that thread. Where does the hate speech

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on the left start? There's your problem, Chris, there's your

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there's your blind spot, there's your problem.

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Speaker 3: I would you don't know?

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Speaker 2: You don't because no, you don't. Chris.

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Speaker 1: You can say that, but I don't believe it, because

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you just said that murdering a guy for his political

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beliefs was karma. So I don't believe you when you

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now say, oh, I love you, you're a brother.

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Speaker 2: No, no, you don't. You don't love me. I disagree

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with you.

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Speaker 1: You you obviously have this hatred in your heart for

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people who disagree with you and wish to engage in

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a debate.

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Speaker 3: I don't have any.

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Speaker 2: Sure you do.

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Speaker 1: Are you happy that Charlie Kirk is dead?

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Speaker 3: It's so state you can cut it with a blood, right, But.

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Speaker 1: But in your view, Chris, think about think about how blinded,

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Think about how blinded you are here is that you

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can't see or hear any hate coming from the left

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despite the attempted assassination attempts on Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: Right the way, are we trying to kick everybody out

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of the country?

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Speaker 2: That that's not what you said.

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Speaker 1: No, none of all of those are policy. These are

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all policy debates. These are policy debates, and people disagree

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with you and your preferred course of action. And you

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don't think that anything your side says is hate.

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Speaker 3: We're being marginalized, We're being pushed.

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Speaker 2: Back, You're being marginalized. How so how give me one,

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Give me one, give me away your.

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Speaker 1: Marginalized, Chris, Chris, give me a way that you have

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been marginalized.

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Speaker 3: Who are right of being taken away?

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Speaker 1: That's not an answer, and you don't have one, And

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I think that pretty well proves you're full of crap.

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And you're probably pretty happy that Charlie Kirk got murdered.

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Oh no, no, you're all about love. We have no

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hate on on our side. It's just for some reason,

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a conversation with Chris, and this is what Charlie Kirk

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tried to do as well.

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Speaker 2: I've been trying to do it as well.

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Speaker 1: I always enjoy talking to people that are on the

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other side of the political issue, right if they are

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operating in good faith, because I believe, and I've said

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this before, I said it today, unchallenged ideas are easy

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to hold. You don't know your own argument, if you

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don't know your opponent's argument. I don't look to say

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Donald Trump to tell me what to think about particular issues.

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Anything he has a view on an issue, oh fantastic,

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I have the same view. I have a different view

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whatever it is. When you make an assertion, you make

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a claim, I'm going to ask you for evidence of

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that claim, as Chris attempted when he said he's being marginalized.

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And I know it's usually not a good thing in

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radio to have a bunch of dead air, but the

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dead air with Chris was important. He literally had no

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evidence to support his claim, and he does not believe

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that there is any kind of top down rhetoric on

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the left that would inspire the kind of violence that

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we are seeing by the left. It wasn't a right

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winger that attempted to assassinate Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't a right winger.

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Speaker 1: The attempted assassinations of Donald Trump not right wingers.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Gabby Gifford's assassin attempted assassination, not.

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Speaker 2: A right winger.

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Speaker 1: Dude thought that grammar was like somehow infiltrating the world

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and taking it over, something like the guy was deranged.

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That's not to say that there isn't right wing violence.

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Of course there is, and it's condemned. It should be condemned. However,

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if you can only spot it on one side, you're

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part of the problem.

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Speaker 2: Let me go over to Travis. Hello, Travis, welcome to

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the program.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for making itself available. Sure, yesterday I just I

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felt emotionally weighed down, and as I was trying to

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assess what it feels like a build up, We've had

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two people now die on camera. We got we watched

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them die, the one on the bus and then this,

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you know, Charlie Kirk. And I'm not the kind of

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person who seeks those out. So for me, it's just

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I think it's emotionally draining for me. Yeah, there's an

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emotional connection, but if I if I try to dig

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under that, it's not just connected emotionally, it's we can't

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agree on how to address crime, and we demon that

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mean well when I say, we ain't even a left

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demonizers those who want to address crime, and then we

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have someone like Joey because it's shocked, right, So it's

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so black and white. We can't transcend this wall dividing

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us on something as simple as crime on the way

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to work, and then we give violent results. And I

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know as O bioliologists come out of hiding and she

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makes them comments. You know what, Fine, if you are

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to speak d find a way to transcend the partisan divide.

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If you want to focus on mental health, fine, do both, right,

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But we gotta get to a point where it's not

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black and white, and by that I mean start contrast.

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We've got to get to where we can work together

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on the face and stop building up hat that stills

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over and what we saw. Anyway, Thanks you.

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Speaker 2: All right, Travis. I appreciate the call, Sarah. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Mark Antonio right, he's a writer at a National Review,

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and he says we cannot become numb to this. It

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doesn't matter what Charlie Kirk's politics are, what political causes

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he has supported, or which politicians he's associated with, defending, excusing,

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or justifying the attempt to murder a fellow citizen as

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some online freaks and cable news gruls have done.

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Speaker 2: What he says for what.

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Speaker 1: Murdering him for what he says or for what he

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believes is the sign of a black heart and a

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disordered mind. We are staring into the abyss. The moment

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when Americans of goodwill abstained from entering the public arena

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as politicians, as activists, as citizens will be the moment

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that we review our god given right to govern ourselves.

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If we are cowed by violence and the threat of

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violence into staying silent and devoiding political discourse, we are

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no longer free. James Woods, the actor who knew Charlie Kirk,

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he said, I enjoyed dinners with Charlie, but I worried

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for his safety. The left says they want national conversations, Well,

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Charlie Kirk actually did that in the lions Den, no less,

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at left leaning venues, hoping that facts and common sense

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would prevail, and they murdered him for it. This is

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folks on the left. You do not have to listen

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to me. You do not have to believe me. You

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can dismiss everything that I am telling you and you

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can just brush it aside and think, what would Chris

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ay Karma a right? And none of this is happening

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on their side, right. You don't have to believe me,

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but I will tell you there is a great anger today.

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There is a massive amount of grief and you're not

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going to like the next guy that comes along, who's

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not going to be as nice as Charlie Kirk. All right,

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that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much

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