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<v Speaker 1>This night side with Dan Ray on WBZ Causton's video.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, thanks very much, Dan Watkins. As we move

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<v Speaker 2>into the talk portion of our program during the eight

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock hour, it's primarily informational again. Tonight we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>a variety of issues, the upcoming two hundred and fiftieth

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<v Speaker 2>anniversary of everything that led up to the American Revolution

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<v Speaker 2>with Chris van Buskirk of the Boston Herald, talk with

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<v Speaker 2>author John Allen about coping with grief, talk with Amy

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<v Speaker 2>Laramie about the twenty twenty four Big Killington Cup competition

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<v Speaker 2>at the Stiefel Killington Cup. And we also talked about

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<v Speaker 2>with Dana Gerber the Boston Globe about who's leaving Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>There is an outflow of people leaving in particularly young people,

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<v Speaker 2>which we need to be concerned about. But those are

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<v Speaker 2>all informational, meaning you could not participate in the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Now as we move to other topics and other issues,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a chance to join the conversation, whatever your

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<v Speaker 2>point of view. So there was a horrific tragedy last Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked about it Monday night. I think that many

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<v Speaker 2>of you now know about it. A young man who,

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<v Speaker 2>by all accounts an outstanding young man. Enrique Delgado Garcia.

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<v Speaker 2>He was in the training program to become a member

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<v Speaker 2>of the Massachusetts State Police. Now the training program for

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<v Speaker 2>this class, and I think it's the ninetieth class. Every

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<v Speaker 2>class they give a sequential number two. I think my

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<v Speaker 2>brother was in the they call the fighting fifty fourth

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<v Speaker 2>or something, many many years ago. The ninetieth class began

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<v Speaker 2>in April, and as one might expect, they you get

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<v Speaker 2>put through the ringer. Okay, I mean it's I hate

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<v Speaker 2>to put it like that, but you want to become

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<v Speaker 2>a state police officer. They want the best. They want

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<v Speaker 2>people who are disciplined, who can control themselves, who can

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<v Speaker 2>handle any situation they might have to deal with out

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<v Speaker 2>in the roads late at night. So it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>job that the faint of heart are going to apply for.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest with you, let's be honest. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 2>want people, many of whom are they can handle themselves. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they need to be able to handle themselves. If they

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<v Speaker 2>stop someone on the mass Turnpike at two o'clock in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning and the person is not cooperative, that trooper

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<v Speaker 2>is not going to say, okay, you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>show me a license. I'm sorry to have bothered you one.

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<v Speaker 2>As you go on your way, and if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to speed, I'll just kind of look up. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not what state police or any police officer is

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be prepared to do. And of course, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>as I'm sure you would expect, they have to do

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<v Speaker 2>some training. They've got to do some physical training, they

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<v Speaker 2>have to do some mental training, they have to they

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<v Speaker 2>have to be toughened up.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And they have to you know, not just be tough,

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<v Speaker 2>but they also have to be judged. They have to

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<v Speaker 2>have good judgment. They have to know when it is

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<v Speaker 2>time to to impose themselves on someone and say I

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<v Speaker 2>told you to get out of the car, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>time to get out of the car, or I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to call my my colleagues. So essentially, essentially all we're

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<v Speaker 2>what we're talking about here is how someone becomes a

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<v Speaker 2>police officer and for and there's a lot of state

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<v Speaker 2>police who listen to my program. Look, it's it's not

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<v Speaker 2>an easy course. They just like in the military, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>they they want to break you of your individuality. It's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the reasons why when you go in the military,

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<v Speaker 2>the first thing they do is cut your hair, those

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful locks that so and anyone's been in the military

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<v Speaker 2>understands it, okay, And they also they're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>say to you, oh no, you know, you don't really

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<v Speaker 2>need to worry about taking your your weapon apart. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's for other people to worry about. Now, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to do that, and you have to do

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<v Speaker 2>it in a certain period of time, and you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to make your bed and all all

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<v Speaker 2>the things that you folks know about it. Well, the

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<v Speaker 2>State Police is as tough as and probably tougher, because

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<v Speaker 2>they they want the best and not only the toughest,

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<v Speaker 2>but the fairest. Now, they've had their problems, okay in

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<v Speaker 2>recent years, all right, So that's we're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>deny that there's been a number of State Police officers

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<v Speaker 2>who have gotten into all sorts of trouble. However, However,

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<v Speaker 2>this young man, Enrique Delgado Garcia, from everything that I

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<v Speaker 2>have watched, including a District Attorney Joe Early's news conference,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it was on Saturday, after this young man

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<v Speaker 2>had passed, he sounded like the perfect request for the

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<v Speaker 2>State police. He had worked in the District Attorney's office

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<v Speaker 2>in Worcester County under the leadership of Joe Early. He

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<v Speaker 2>had been a victim's advocate, so he understood why police

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<v Speaker 2>work is important for every community in Massachusetts, not only

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<v Speaker 2>the wealthy neighborhoods, but the poorer neighborhoods as well, where

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<v Speaker 2>there's probably more criminality and you know, street crime, if

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<v Speaker 2>you will, than in some of the communities in Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 2>which are are are perhaps you know, blessed a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more blessed economically. Well, something happened, something happened last

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday afternoon. What we we haven't been told anything officially.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been told that there was some sort of program,

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<v Speaker 2>an exercise program, in which this twenty five year old

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<v Speaker 2>young man from Worcester died because he suffered critical injuries

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<v Speaker 2>in a boxing exercise and he was rushed to the

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<v Speaker 2>hospital at UMass Memorial Memorial Medical Center in Worcester, and

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<v Speaker 2>he survived, and they actually had a ceremony Friday night

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<v Speaker 2>while he was surrounded by his family and some of

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<v Speaker 2>his friends and some of his classmates, and the oath

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<v Speaker 2>of office was administered to him. He was given a

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<v Speaker 2>trooper badge, and then he passed and he was body

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<v Speaker 2>was taken to the Medical Examiner's office out in Westfield

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<v Speaker 2>with a State Police escort. Now, the only statement that

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<v Speaker 2>I have seen is that it said he died Friday

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<v Speaker 2>after he became unresponsive. He became unresponsive during a defensive

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<v Speaker 2>tactics training exercise at the Massachusetts State Police Academy in

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<v Speaker 2>New Braintree on Thursday afternoon. That's what State Police said.

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<v Speaker 2>So at this time last week, this young man was

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<v Speaker 2>in probably peak physical condition after having undergone whatever number

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks. They've been there since April. So April, some

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<v Speaker 2>part of April, I don't know how long, but May, June, July, August.

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<v Speaker 2>That's sixteen weeks right there, and at least one week

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks into September. The class was going to graduate

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<v Speaker 2>on October ninth at the DCU Center. These young men

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<v Speaker 2>and women are just finishing up their training. Well, something

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<v Speaker 2>horrible happened, and so far we've received little specificity. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the Boston Globe and an article that to me is

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<v Speaker 2>the best article that's been written so far by a

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<v Speaker 2>fellow named Nick Stoiko of the Globe staff wrote that

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<v Speaker 2>several news outlets have reported that Delgatto Garcia was covered

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<v Speaker 2>in bruises and missing tea after the boxing exercise. He

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<v Speaker 2>suffered a broken neck and a brain injury, and was

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<v Speaker 2>placed on life support at the hospital. According to NBC

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<v Speaker 2>ten Boston and CBS Boston, you do not suffer those

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<v Speaker 2>injuries in a normal boxing competition, okay. The state police

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<v Speaker 2>spokesperson said he could not confirm the details about Delgado

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<v Speaker 2>Garcia's injuries. I wonder why well the medical care he received,

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<v Speaker 2>citing privacy laws. Recruits wear boxing gloves, oversized boxing gloves,

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<v Speaker 2>which are because they're oversized, they do not hit with

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<v Speaker 2>the impact that a regular boxing glove would hit with headgear,

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<v Speaker 2>which of course is protective and protective athletic cup during

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<v Speaker 2>the so called exercise. So the bottom line is the

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<v Speaker 2>governor has said she's committed, that she mourns his laws,

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<v Speaker 2>saying that he had committed himself to a career of

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<v Speaker 2>protecting the people of Massachusetts. The governor said she was

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<v Speaker 2>heartbroken by his death. So who was there to protect

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<v Speaker 2>en Rique? And how could have he suffered injuries of

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<v Speaker 2>that consequence? Those are the questions I want answered. I

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of friends on the State Police have

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<v Speaker 2>had relatives of the State Police. It's a great institution.

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<v Speaker 2>It protects all of us here in Massachusetts. But who

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<v Speaker 2>was there to protect Enrique is my question. On Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, And by the way, the District Attorney, Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Early out in Worcester, said that, in his opinion, his

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<v Speaker 2>office was conflicted because this young man worked in his

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<v Speaker 2>office as a victim's advocate. And Early went on to say, normally,

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<v Speaker 2>in a situation like this, it's passed on to another

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<v Speaker 2>DA's office. He doesn't think that it should be us

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<v Speaker 2>onto a DA's office. I proposed Ed Davis. I actually

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<v Speaker 2>spoke with Ed Davis today and Ed Davis would be

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<v Speaker 2>a perfect person to investigate this. I'll tell you who

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<v Speaker 2>else I would suggest could be someone who would investigate this.

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned Willie Gross, the former police commissioner in Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned Dan Lynsky, who was a superintendent, Billy Evans

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<v Speaker 2>former commissioner, his brother Paul Evans, former police commissioner in Boston. Certainly,

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<v Speaker 2>Kathy O'Toole, who was a police superintendent here in the

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<v Speaker 2>Boston area. She also was the she was in charge

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<v Speaker 2>of the NBTA Police. If I'm recalling correctly. She was

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<v Speaker 2>in charge of the police force, which is at national

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<v Speaker 2>police force in Ireland called the GARDA. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>add one more name, and my name is John. The

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<v Speaker 2>name that I would like to add is John Blodgett.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a former district attorney out of Essex County. Of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years, you've been the national president of the District

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<v Speaker 2>Attorney's Association. No one has ever questioned his integrity. So

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<v Speaker 2>there are people who can look into this, and I

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<v Speaker 2>would certainly put John Blodgett's name into that group as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm asking who would you suggest would conduct this investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>That's number one. Number two, why has the State Police

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<v Speaker 2>not provided us with more information? There are a group

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<v Speaker 2>of people who have to know what happened. They have

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<v Speaker 2>to know what happened. There's no question that there are

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<v Speaker 2>officials within the State Police as well as people who

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<v Speaker 2>probably observed what happened. Now, a lot of those people

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<v Speaker 2>probably have been told do not talk to the media, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's the way it works so often here in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are people out there who know. And the

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<v Speaker 2>longer that the Commonwealth goes without providing information, without providing

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<v Speaker 2>the information, the more theories that will be circulated. This

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<v Speaker 2>is Massachusetts. This is not Mississippi in the nineteen fifties. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is Massachusetts twenty twenty four. We should have already

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<v Speaker 2>a report from the state Police. Doesn't have to be thorough,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have to be complete, and autopsy has at this

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<v Speaker 2>point been performed. They have to know the specific cause

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<v Speaker 2>of death. In my opinion, and I know there was

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<v Speaker 2>one gentleman who questioned me the other night and said

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<v Speaker 2>that I was jumping at conclusions. No, I want answers.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a taxpayer. I pay a lot of taxes to Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 2>as many of you do as well. Many of you

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<v Speaker 2>probably pay more than I do. But we are invested

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<v Speaker 2>in the State Police of Massachusetts. We're invested in their reputation.

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<v Speaker 2>I want leadership, I want transparency, and I want accountability. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>They can give us an update tomorrow if they want.

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<v Speaker 2>My question is why aren't they six one, seven, two, five,

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<v Speaker 2>I will stay on this, okay, because we cannot forget

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<v Speaker 2>the name of Enrique Delgado Garcia. It's as simple as

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<v Speaker 2>that he died under circumstances where he never should have

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<v Speaker 2>lost his life. I mean, if if he tripped and

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<v Speaker 2>fell and hit his head and suffered, you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>serious brain injury, we would know about it at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>They would have told us. I want to know, why

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<v Speaker 2>are they not talking to us? Why are they allowing

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<v Speaker 2>us to be in situation where all sorts of rumors

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<v Speaker 2>might start. Let's let's get the truth out as they

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<v Speaker 2>know it. If they're not sure, that's fine, but they

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<v Speaker 2>long was he in the ring? Was he in with

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<v Speaker 2>someone who was over overpowered him physically? Why was the

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<v Speaker 2>fight not stopped? All of this, all of this has

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<v Speaker 2>answered quickly. So I hope you'll join me as a

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<v Speaker 2>listener to this program and convince the authorities of Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 2>that it is in the interest of everyone in Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 2>but particularly the family of Enrique Delgado Garcia, for us

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<v Speaker 2>to know as much as possible. They don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>get into lurid details. They don't have to get into

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<v Speaker 2>lurid details, but look, we need information. Join the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>My name's Dan Ray.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Nightside Now bent to Dan ray Line from

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<v Speaker 1>the Window World Light Side Studios on WBZ to news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go right to the calls. We want to see

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<v Speaker 2>what people think on this issue. I think we need

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<v Speaker 2>more information than less agree or disagree, and sooner rather

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<v Speaker 2>than later. Tricia in Winthrop, Tricia, welcome, you are next first,

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<v Speaker 2>it's our nightside go on head, Trisha.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, Dan, I totally agree. It almost reminds me of

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<v Speaker 4>the movie A Few Good Men with Jack Nicholson that

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<v Speaker 4>you can't that you can't handle the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I handle the truth.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I truly believe it's definitely a cover up. And

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<v Speaker 4>correct me if I'm wrong. In the news, I thought

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<v Speaker 4>the gentleman that just has been killed reached out.

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<v Speaker 2>To let me just say his name, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's supporting Enrique Delgado Garcia go.

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<v Speaker 4>Ahead, yeah, thank you, called out to his friends. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know about family, but he said it was if

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<v Speaker 4>he could survive, that it's a big hazing situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they're not supposed to that hazing. I can tell

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<v Speaker 2>you this. It's not a garden party. It's not Tea

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<v Speaker 2>and crumforts.

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<v Speaker 4>I know that. I know that, Dan, I totally agree.

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<v Speaker 4>But and that's why I want people. I heard that

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<v Speaker 4>he had called friends and said it was like a

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<v Speaker 4>hazing situation. Now, I could be totally wrong, I could

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<v Speaker 4>be mislet with the news or whatever. But but but

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<v Speaker 4>but but honestly, you don't get a broken neck and

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely absolutely broke a broken neck. And I know that

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<v Speaker 2>there was some suggestion that he might have had a

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<v Speaker 2>skull fracture. I mean, all of this they must know

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<v Speaker 2>by now. The autopsy, I'm sure is completed, and I

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<v Speaker 2>can understand they may want to take a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>days to share it with the family. But but I

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<v Speaker 2>think enough time has passed.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh totally. And you know what, from all reports and everything,

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<v Speaker 4>he was an amazing person, very dedicated to what he did,

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<v Speaker 4>and he was so looking for it and he was

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<v Speaker 4>They gave him the metal in his hospital bed.

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<v Speaker 2>They gave his badge, they gave him.

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<v Speaker 4>His badge whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, badge is important. Badge is important because that showed

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<v Speaker 2>that he died as a member of the Massachusetts State Police.

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<v Speaker 2>That may not mean a lot to some people, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it meant a lot to him. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>Go so absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>My mother used to say, you're going to say something

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<v Speaker 4>good or bad, don't But I don't mean to make

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<v Speaker 4>light of it. But I believe it's a definite cover up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the longer more people are going to have that opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that it's in the state and it's

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<v Speaker 2>in the interest of the state police, it's in the

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<v Speaker 2>interest of the family of god Garcia. If there's something

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<v Speaker 2>they're not sure, that's fine, but they should be able

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<v Speaker 2>to give us information on the things of which they

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<v Speaker 2>are sure, simple as that.

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<v Speaker 4>And Dan, I'm gonna hang up to let other people.

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<v Speaker 4>I have no agenda on this. I do not know

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<v Speaker 4>the person, but it just reminds me in a few

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<v Speaker 4>good men. You watch that movie with Jack Nicholas.

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<v Speaker 2>Very familiar with this matter of fact. Ye look, a

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<v Speaker 2>very close friend of mine is a lawyer who was

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<v Speaker 2>in the cases on which that movie was built. And

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<v Speaker 2>friend the attorney reminds me of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Whatever we get a chance to be And you know what, Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 4>just like Jack Nichol, you can't handle the truth. And

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<v Speaker 4>unfortunately in this day and age, yep, people can't handle

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<v Speaker 2>We can handle the truth and they can they work

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<v Speaker 2>for us. You know, we pay the salary, and that

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<v Speaker 2>goes from the governor right on down.

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<v Speaker 6>So let's say, yeah, thank you for taking.

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<v Speaker 2>You bet you, thanks Trish, thank you very much. Going

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<v Speaker 2>to take a very quick good night. Good night, Trish.

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<v Speaker 2>The only line that is opened right now is six one,

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<v Speaker 2>seven thirty. My intention is to change time topics at

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<v Speaker 2>ten o'clock. So if you want to get in, get

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<v Speaker 2>in now. Six one seven nine three one ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>I got Joe, I got Gail, I got Rachel and

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<v Speaker 2>Suzanne there they're up next and you will be behind

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<v Speaker 2>them if you call six one seven nine three one

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. We'll move people as quickly as we can

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<v Speaker 2>so we get to as many people as possible. And

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<v Speaker 2>I want the authorities in Massachusetts to understand that there

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<v Speaker 2>is a desire on the part of a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people to find out as soon as ProAb. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what happens is there'll be a big story tomorrow and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be worrying about another story, and these stories tend

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<v Speaker 2>to be forgotten. I won't let them forget about this story.

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<v Speaker 2>I give you my word on that, and I'm back

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<v Speaker 2>at it tonight after having been on it on Monday night.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back on Nightside right after the news at

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom of the hour.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go next to Joe and Belmont. Joe, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 2>You are on Nightside, Joe.

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<v Speaker 7>Go ahead, Dan, I want to get give you some encouragement.

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<v Speaker 7>Great is your patriotism and positive attitude in Danzi Man.

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<v Speaker 7>If he can't do it, no one can. Dan. I

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<v Speaker 7>agree with you, and I back up your last call

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<v Speaker 7>at Tricia, and I want to ask you, do you

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<v Speaker 7>think there's a cover up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's too early to say there's a cover up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not too early to say that they have given

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<v Speaker 2>us a scant information on a tragedy that looks very

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<v Speaker 2>suspicious from the outside. I mean, this is a twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five year old who had just gone through whatever it was,

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen weeks of training. He probably was in the best

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<v Speaker 2>physical condition of his life, and to have this happen

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<v Speaker 2>to him on a Thursday afternoon under the auspice of

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<v Speaker 2>state police training. I need answers. I want answers. I

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<v Speaker 2>want answers as a citizen, I want answers as a

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<v Speaker 2>human being, and I want answers as a taxpayer. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to know what the hell happened?

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<v Speaker 7>God bless you. Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it, Thanks Joe, I appreciate it. Sweeten to the

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<v Speaker 2>point as always, great call. Thanks Joe, Thank you, Yi soon,

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<v Speaker 2>good night. Let me go next. We move people a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit here. Let me go to Rachel and Quincy. Rachel,

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<v Speaker 2>You're next, Don Nice, I welcome.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey Dan, how are you? And I can't tell you

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<v Speaker 8>how much I agree with you. He went through all

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<v Speaker 8>that training, so why put a young kid whatever? Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>he wants to be a state trooper, maybe he doesn't

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<v Speaker 8>want to be out on the street or whatever. But

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<v Speaker 8>who was watching this match that he got hit that

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<v Speaker 8>many times? It should have been stopped at the first hit.

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<v Speaker 8>He's not a boxer. You don't have to be a

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<v Speaker 8>gorilla to be a state trooper. Because what he did

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<v Speaker 8>in his resume, maybe he wanted to continue that. And

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<v Speaker 8>shame on anybody that allowed this young man to get

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<v Speaker 8>hurt the way he was. And yes, and I agree

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<v Speaker 3>Where the answers, Yeah, I mean, look, it's different from

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<v Speaker 2>It's a different proposition than being a state police trooper

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<v Speaker 2>out on the road at two o'clock in the morning

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<v Speaker 2>when you pull some person over who is difficult to

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<v Speaker 2>so cruel. Clearly, these folks need to be taught a

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<v Speaker 2>we don't expect them all to be Mike Tyson either,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the point.

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<v Speaker 8>And I agree with I agree with you. But isn't

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<v Speaker 8>that when they call in backup?

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, sometimes though state police, when they're out on

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<v Speaker 2>some of the major roads ninety five four ninety five,

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<v Speaker 2>the mass turnpike, backup might be ten minutes or longer away.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they they're out there, it's they're in what

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<v Speaker 2>called one man or one person patrol cars. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>as if they're they've got two troopers, which of course

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<v Speaker 2>would be the ideal circumstances. But this guy to have

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<v Speaker 2>suffered this extent of injuries, something was definitely wrong. Either

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<v Speaker 2>they put him in the ring with you know, someone

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<v Speaker 2>who who decided they were going to impress their their

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<v Speaker 2>a boxer. I don't know. Something went terribly wrong here.

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<v Speaker 8>And okay, Dan, and that is the person that so

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<v Speaker 8>that's the person that doesn't belong in the training class.

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<v Speaker 8>That's the person that they should have already seen signs

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<v Speaker 8>he should not have been what he's doing. And I

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<v Speaker 8>get trying to protect yourself, right, Okay, teach them karate,

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<v Speaker 8>teach him this and okay, okay, boxing doesn't matter. This

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<v Speaker 8>is where you have, you know what, the tases whatever.

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<v Speaker 8>This gentleman never ever should have been put through what

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<v Speaker 8>he went through. And now maybe it's a can of

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<v Speaker 8>worms that are opening up, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, but I also blame the supervision. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>when you have when you're putting people in a situation

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<v Speaker 2>where they're gonna fight one another, there has to be

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<v Speaker 2>someone there in a supervisory capacity. So if all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden someone gets hit and and you know, basically

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<v Speaker 2>is defenseless, which can happen, you got to stop it

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<v Speaker 2>right there. It's as simple as that, Rachel, I got

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, thank you much, all right again, Gus Black.

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<v Speaker 2>I made your points. You made him, Well, right back

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<v Speaker 2>at you. Let me go too, Suzanne in New Hampshire. Susanne,

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<v Speaker 2>you were next one night, stick go right.

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<v Speaker 6>Ahead, Hey, Dan Harriet, thanks for taking my call.

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<v Speaker 2>You're very welcome. What's your thought on this?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>This is completely completely disgusting and reprehensible. They were two

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<v Speaker 6>weeks the way from graduating, right. They don't do this

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<v Speaker 6>stuff at the end. They don't want them up on

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<v Speaker 6>stage with bruce faces and lips and all that. And

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<v Speaker 6>I don't understand, like you just said. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>not gonna say it to cover up. It's too soon.

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<v Speaker 6>But first of all, this poor family has been treated poorly.

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<v Speaker 6>They were brought out on stage. They didn't know they

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<v Speaker 6>were floided. They don't speak the language. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 6>they were two weeks away. Who was there? You know what?

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<v Speaker 6>There were retired state troopers there. This was like a

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<v Speaker 6>thing happening. How not one person stopped it? How do

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<v Speaker 6>you suffer those injuries?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Yeah, let me just say this was

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<v Speaker 2>in I don't know that they were retired state troopers.

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<v Speaker 2>There were instructors who would be you know, experienced.

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<v Speaker 6>States I'll forget that part I write. But he was

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<v Speaker 6>on life support as soon as he got to the hospital.

427
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<v Speaker 6>And this has been stated by the family. I know

428
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<v Speaker 6>for a fact he was on life port as soon

429
00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:45.759
<v Speaker 6>as he got to the hospital. How does that happen? Like,

430
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<v Speaker 6>I don't care if the cover apart. We need justice

431
00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:53.079
<v Speaker 6>for this man and for his family. It's so sickening

432
00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:54.480
<v Speaker 6>that poor mother.

433
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<v Speaker 2>And in order to get justice. In order to get justice,

434
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<v Speaker 2>we got to get information. And I don't want exactly,

435
00:27:01.599 --> 00:27:06.960
<v Speaker 2>I want people not to forget Enrique Delgado Garcia. Okay,

436
00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:11.799
<v Speaker 2>he suffered a loss of his life while in training

437
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:14.759
<v Speaker 2>to become a state police officer. This is not a

438
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<v Speaker 2>situation where let's say, I don't know, you you read

439
00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:23.759
<v Speaker 2>stories about how that at a at a military base, Uh,

440
00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:26.440
<v Speaker 2>there was a an accident and someone fell off a

441
00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:31.200
<v Speaker 2>truck or whatever. Okay, this this was a controlled setting.

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00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:35.440
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, this was at the hands of the old people

443
00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:38.960
<v Speaker 6>that are supposed to be out and then gonna protect

444
00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:42.759
<v Speaker 6>citizens and they're supposed to be camaraderie and protecting each other.

445
00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:47.000
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, someone was on a mission. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I hope, I hope that is not the case.

447
00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:53.680
<v Speaker 2>If it is the case that that person, yeah, well

448
00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:55.400
<v Speaker 2>and The only way we're gonna be able to judge

449
00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:58.680
<v Speaker 2>it is if we get information as quickly as possible.

450
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<v Speaker 2>We don't need to wait six to get the final report.

451
00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:06.359
<v Speaker 2>They should give us what they know. They should give

452
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<v Speaker 2>us what they know tomorrow. Susan, I got pack lines.

453
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<v Speaker 2>I gotta keep rolling. Thank you, I love I love

454
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:15.000
<v Speaker 2>your passion for justice. Thank you. Good night. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>go to Gail and situate. Gail, you were next on night,

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<v Speaker 2>Siger ahead, I'm gonna get you in here before the break. Gail.

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<v Speaker 9>Hey, Dan, I got some questions. So now, is it

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<v Speaker 9>possible to file a foyer a Freedom of Information Act

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<v Speaker 9>with a state police to get that documentation on what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>They could that could be filed by you know, normally

461
00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:43.079
<v Speaker 2>that's filed by newspapers or television stations who have lawyers,

462
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<v Speaker 2>you know, they have a legal staff who goes through

463
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<v Speaker 2>the process of filing a foyer. And then of course

464
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<v Speaker 2>they're just because they file a foyer, the state could say, well,

465
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<v Speaker 2>there's sensitive information here, we have an ongoing investigation and

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<v Speaker 2>we do not want to compromise the investigation. And then

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<v Speaker 2>it's the the Massachusetts you know, Freedom of informat Nation Act,

468
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<v Speaker 2>which which they weigh. They weighed the balance and interest.

469
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<v Speaker 2>I just think it's more important I can put more

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<v Speaker 2>pressure on the state police by doing this and having

471
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:18.759
<v Speaker 2>people talk and call and let them understand that there's

472
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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of people out there who you've all heard,

473
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:24.519
<v Speaker 2>you've just heard from, who want to know what happened

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<v Speaker 2>the family.

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<v Speaker 9>But there's documentation made, and of course it's probably going

476
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<v Speaker 9>to be redacted a bit. If you're if you yourself,

477
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<v Speaker 9>I mean you're you're a lawyer and you're also in

478
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<v Speaker 9>the media, you could have you could file a for

479
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:40.440
<v Speaker 9>you and whatever you get would probably be redacted, but

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<v Speaker 9>you might get some answers. But there I'm curius in

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<v Speaker 9>about the timeline. So Enrique is is having a boxing.

482
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<v Speaker 2>Match Thursday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 9>Who's he fighting.

484
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<v Speaker 2>Against another another trainee.

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<v Speaker 9>Another trainee, Okay, and we don't know if that training

486
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<v Speaker 9>had previously experience of boxing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that'll be part of the investigation, okay. And again

488
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<v Speaker 2>even if look, if I jumped into the ring with

489
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<v Speaker 2>Mike Tyson, Okay, which is never gonna happen, by the way,

490
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<v Speaker 2>But but if I did, I would assume that Mike Tyson,

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<v Speaker 2>as a professional would uh he's going to hold back

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<v Speaker 2>on his punches a little bit. Come on. I mean

493
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<v Speaker 2>it's like if I said, well, I want to go

494
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<v Speaker 2>to Fenway Park and for you know, Roger Clemens every

495
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:29.839
<v Speaker 2>year for the Jimmy Fund throws batting practice to people. Uh,

496
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:32.119
<v Speaker 2>and you can say that you're bad against Roger Clemens.

497
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<v Speaker 2>Now if I do that and I make a contribution

498
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<v Speaker 2>to the Jimmy Fund in order to do that or

499
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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is, Children's hospital and and Clemens throws one

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<v Speaker 2>at my head, I mean, come on, that's you know,

501
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:44.680
<v Speaker 2>you have to and that's why they have supervision there.

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<v Speaker 2>And if all of a sudden it was a parent

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<v Speaker 2>that this kid didn't have any You give someone training

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<v Speaker 2>in self defense before you put them in the ring.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, okay, let's look at his injuries. Broken back,

506
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<v Speaker 9>which is serious and he could die from that alone.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh my god. He had head injury.

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<v Speaker 2>He lost teeth, lost teeth, not a tooth, but teeth.

509
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<v Speaker 2>Now you're supposed to have a mouth guard, you should

510
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<v Speaker 2>have a head should have headgear on.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, hight, So he's boxing in the match, all right,

512
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<v Speaker 9>he boxing? So does he go to the hospital right

513
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<v Speaker 9>after that or does home?

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<v Speaker 2>They took him. No, no, no, no no. The story

515
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<v Speaker 2>that we have is he was immediately rushed to the

516
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<v Speaker 2>Worcester UMass Memorial Medical Center. He was put on life support.

517
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<v Speaker 2>He lived for about a day. They had a ceremony

518
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<v Speaker 2>the next day at his bedside. He was on life support,

519
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:47.240
<v Speaker 2>and he was basically given his badge, and so his

520
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:49.960
<v Speaker 2>family realized that he died as a member of the

521
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Massachusetts Police, which I'm sure was an honor. But at

522
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<v Speaker 2>the same time, can you imagine the family is just

523
00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:59.640
<v Speaker 2>looking at him. Uh. And then he was taken to

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<v Speaker 2>have an autopsy'd done on Saturday out in Westfield at

525
00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:06.640
<v Speaker 2>the Medical Examiner's Office for Western Massachusetts. And they have

526
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:10.720
<v Speaker 2>yet to appoint an independent investigator. I said the other night,

527
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<v Speaker 2>someone like Ed Davis. I want to add, what about

528
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:17.519
<v Speaker 2>John Bodgett, the district attorney, former District attorney of Essex County,

529
00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:21.519
<v Speaker 2>a man who has great credentials, or or Ed Davis.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a number of people who should be put

531
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<v Speaker 2>in charge of that and that investigation. All records would

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<v Speaker 2>be you know, no, no records are destroyed, it's evidence.

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<v Speaker 9>Davis would be great. But like what I'm trying to understand,

534
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<v Speaker 9>is that he when he went directly from the boxing

535
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<v Speaker 9>ring to the hospital. Yes, and no one's ever taken

536
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<v Speaker 9>him out, and he's been watched constantly twenty four to

537
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<v Speaker 9>seven by nurses and doctors.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 9>Then then that tells me that no one else got

540
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<v Speaker 9>to him. So maybe the injuries from the boxing really

541
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<v Speaker 9>did to him.

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<v Speaker 2>And oh, there's no question about that. Was There's no

543
00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:58.119
<v Speaker 2>question about that now. I mean, I guess if they

544
00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:01.680
<v Speaker 2>found out that he didn't have a broken neck, if

545
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:03.599
<v Speaker 2>the autopsy said, oh, no, he didn't have a broken

546
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:05.319
<v Speaker 2>neck and a matter of fact, all of his teeth

547
00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:08.359
<v Speaker 2>were fine. Uh, and they say he had a massive

548
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:11.759
<v Speaker 2>cardiac arrest. I mean, all of these young men and

549
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:15.960
<v Speaker 2>women go through extensive physicals in order to enter the academy,

550
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:21.119
<v Speaker 2>and you know this, it defies logic that it is

551
00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:25.279
<v Speaker 2>anything other than these serious injuries that took his life. Right.

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00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:28.000
<v Speaker 9>You know, you're not gonna probably have more information until

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<v Speaker 9>you get that autopsy report.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think I think it should the public should

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<v Speaker 2>be told. The public should be told at this point,

556
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:38.359
<v Speaker 2>what were the injuries he suffered, what has what was

557
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:40.799
<v Speaker 2>he what did he die from? Okay? And then the

558
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:43.839
<v Speaker 2>follow up question is how many people were physically there

559
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<v Speaker 2>when this match occurred. Was it a boxing match? Did

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<v Speaker 2>he have all of his protective equipment on? Could it

561
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:54.039
<v Speaker 2>be a situation where somehow he didn't tie a chin

562
00:33:54.119 --> 00:34:00.000
<v Speaker 2>scrap chin strap and a blow knock the protective headgear

563
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:03.240
<v Speaker 2>off and the other fighter continued to hit him. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the facts, but I gotta tell you,

565
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:08.000
<v Speaker 2>it's a week tomorrow that this kid lost his life.

566
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:10.639
<v Speaker 2>We need to get them because the longer we go,

567
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:15.480
<v Speaker 2>that's when funny things happen. To two documents and pieces

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00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:17.360
<v Speaker 2>of information. If you get my drift.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I just want to ascertain whether or not somebody

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<v Speaker 9>got to him before he got to the uh to

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<v Speaker 9>the hospital.

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00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:27.679
<v Speaker 3>But that's not the case, not at all, no question.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, he went, he went directly from the fighting, the

574
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:33.559
<v Speaker 9>fighting ring, the boxing ring to the hospital. Yes, and

575
00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:36.519
<v Speaker 9>it's being launched and yes, so it's it's it's a mystery.

576
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:39.440
<v Speaker 9>It's right up there with John John. What's your saying,

577
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:44.440
<v Speaker 9>Karen Reid's boyfriend. We don't know how he died. Well yeah, yeah, Well,

578
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:46.880
<v Speaker 9>like I said, you're not going to no more. Please

579
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:48.079
<v Speaker 9>see the autopsy report.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Thanks Gail, I appreciate it. Let's if the

581
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<v Speaker 2>autopsy report is finalized, they don't have to give us

582
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:56.920
<v Speaker 2>the entire report, give us the results right now. Thanks Gail,

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00:34:56.960 --> 00:34:59.280
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it. All right. We've got two more coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>I got Dawn and Carlton, got Bill in New York.

585
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I got to them. Maybe room for you. The only

586
00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:06.320
<v Speaker 2>lines is open six one, seven thirty. We are going

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<v Speaker 2>to change topics at ten o'clock, and I want to

588
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<v Speaker 2>talk about the decision of the Teamsters, the International Brotherhood

589
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:19.199
<v Speaker 2>of the Teamsters, to choose not to endorse a presidential candidate.

590
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:22.599
<v Speaker 2>There are some serious implications in there. We will talk

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00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:24.960
<v Speaker 2>about that after the ten o'clock news.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

593
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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, we're running out of time here, and I gonna change.

595
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:36.320
<v Speaker 2>I will change topics at ten. So let me get

596
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<v Speaker 2>Bill in New York in real quickly, and then Dawn

597
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:40.960
<v Speaker 2>and Charlton and maybe Lawrence and west Roxbury. Bill in

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00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:42.559
<v Speaker 2>New York, you'll comment, go run hit sir.

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<v Speaker 10>Hey, Dan, thanks for taking my call.

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<v Speaker 2>You're welcome. What's up?

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<v Speaker 5>So?

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<v Speaker 11>I want to talk about UH Trooper dougatdo Garcia.

603
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:55.599
<v Speaker 3>Yep, you talked.

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<v Speaker 11>About hazing earlier and what he said to his friends

605
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<v Speaker 11>about the hazing whole thing.

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00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:04.119
<v Speaker 2>I never talked about that. That was in the newscast.

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00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:06.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that to be true. If that's true,

608
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:09.079
<v Speaker 2>that has to be part of it as well everything

609
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:11.440
<v Speaker 2>that we've read so far as it deals with the

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00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:16.119
<v Speaker 2>boxing activity or the so called defensive exercise activity.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, No, I agree with one thousand percent. Maybe if

613
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:24.239
<v Speaker 11>there was hazing going on, maybe he shouldn't have been

614
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:27.960
<v Speaker 11>put in that ring. Maybe maybe the hazing was a

615
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:32.039
<v Speaker 11>battle between two guys that were having to be for whatever.

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<v Speaker 11>Being a veteran myself back in the day, I was

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<v Speaker 11>in ninety two to ninety six, and it was a

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00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:43.880
<v Speaker 11>completely different military back then than it is now when

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<v Speaker 11>people go through basic training.

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<v Speaker 2>And no, I went through basic training about twenty years

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<v Speaker 2>before that, so I know what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 10>So you can see over the progression of the years,

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<v Speaker 10>it's gotten a lot looser and people, you know, he

624
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<v Speaker 10>knew what he was signing up for.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I know, but this, but no one should sign

626
00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:07.440
<v Speaker 2>up for this bill. Do me a favorite. I want

627
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:09.480
<v Speaker 2>to get one more local caller in before I but

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<v Speaker 2>I got to let you go, but you made your point.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for your service. Please call again, call earlier

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<v Speaker 2>to give you much more time.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, thank you's there.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. Let me go to Dawn and Charlton, Massachusetts. Dawn,

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<v Speaker 2>you were next on night side. You get the final

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<v Speaker 2>word tonight on this one. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, thanks for taking my call. My heart goes out

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<v Speaker 5>to trooper delgattoism. I can't imagine firsthand what he's going through.

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<v Speaker 5>Like you mentioned earlier in your conversation, I to support

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<v Speaker 5>the troopers and all their hard work that they, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>sacrifice each and every day. I think that's first and

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<v Speaker 5>foremal topic of concerns that we need to appreciate all

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<v Speaker 5>the law enforcement. However, a lot of speculation, I must

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<v Speaker 5>say from a lot of these listeners. No one was there,

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<v Speaker 5>So again, there were a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of There were a lot of people that know, there

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<v Speaker 2>were a lot of people there, don't I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't there, but my Carlins weren't there. There are newspaper.

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<v Speaker 3>Reports which have not been denied.

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<v Speaker 2>By the state police, that he suffered from broken neck

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<v Speaker 2>and had lost teeth in this so called defensive exercise.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct I mean, like you mentioned, it's one of those

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<v Speaker 5>things that none of us are there, none of us

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<v Speaker 5>referring to all the listeners that you know, we can

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<v Speaker 5>all again speculate, but no one is there until as

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure they're wearing protective headgearner I would imagine they

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<v Speaker 5>said that.

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<v Speaker 2>I accept that they said that, so, which makes it

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<v Speaker 2>all more difficult to understand how we could have suffered

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<v Speaker 2>such traumatic injuries. That's and all I'm just saying is

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<v Speaker 2>give us the information you have, don't. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to wait around for some six month report. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to thorough investigation, and that's why I suggested ed Davis

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<v Speaker 2>or John Blatchett. But I also want an interim report,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want like yesterday, simple as that. Don I

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<v Speaker 2>am flat out of time. Have you called before since

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<v Speaker 2>your first call?

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<v Speaker 5>First call?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we'll give you a quick round of applause and

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<v Speaker 2>come on back shirt and I'll give you a much

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<v Speaker 2>more time. Thank you, don I appreciate it. Where's we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do? All right, good night, I'm gonna stick with this.

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<v Speaker 2>I've changed my mind. Lawrence and west Roxby, you stay

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<v Speaker 2>there if you if you want to exercise your point

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<v Speaker 2>of view on this go ahead. We will get to

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<v Speaker 2>the teamster's UH non endorsement a little bit later on,

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<v Speaker 2>but we'll continue with this right after the ten