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<v Speaker 1>Wait Wait, said in.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome Back to Midnight Viewing, where this season we're taking

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<v Speaker 2>a look at George Romero's nineteen eighties television series Tales

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<v Speaker 2>from the Dark Side. Sharing the midnight view with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Are the Culture Cast, Chris Statue Forsooth, I Say You

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<v Speaker 2>Are a Witch? And the Projection Booths Mike White don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a Cutty Black sal Man. Tonight, we're taking a

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<v Speaker 2>look at the next two episodes of season four, the

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<v Speaker 2>final season of Tales from the Dark Side. Those are

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<v Speaker 2>The Apprentice and The Cuddy Black Sow. The Apprentice Season four,

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<v Speaker 2>episode thirteen, originally aired on May the first, nineteen eighty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>Written by Ellen Sandhouse, directed by Eleanor Gabor, starring Haviland Morris,

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<v Speaker 2>Marla Bloodstone from Gremlin's Two, Wayne Tippett, Catherine Newman, and

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<v Speaker 2>Gary Lottie. Who I sat watching this episode staring at

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<v Speaker 2>him the whole time and going, what the fuck do

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<v Speaker 2>I know him? From? Oh, Night Riders? George Romeros from

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<v Speaker 2>Night Riders. This is the story of a young woman

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<v Speaker 2>who takes a job at a colonial reenactment village and

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<v Speaker 2>she really commits to the job. What'd you think of

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<v Speaker 2>this one? Mike Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>I could see everything coming before it happened. As soon

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<v Speaker 3>as she walked in the door, I knew exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>was going to take place. Yeah, this was rough. Have

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<v Speaker 3>we seen this before or is this just that obvious

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<v Speaker 3>that I knew? Oh okay, Yeah, here's this dude gonna

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<v Speaker 3>lurea in a person somehow. She's going to go back

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<v Speaker 3>in time and get stuck in this village. I thought

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<v Speaker 3>maybe they might have one day of normalcy where it's

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<v Speaker 3>tourists coming in and making her feel bad. And you

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<v Speaker 3>know what was that book that oh gosh, Chuck Poulinik

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<v Speaker 3>wrote the.

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<v Speaker 2>Reacting things.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, Okay, this will be cool, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>show me a day of a reenactor and stuff. No, no,

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<v Speaker 3>we have to jump right into the she's back in

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<v Speaker 3>time now. And yeah. All I could do while I

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<v Speaker 3>was watching our main actress was thinking about her having

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<v Speaker 3>her hair caught in a door and having somebody cut

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<v Speaker 3>it off the entire time. And then Wayne Tippett, he

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<v Speaker 3>plays a bastard really well, and so at least he

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<v Speaker 3>brought that energy to this, and I was pretty okay

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<v Speaker 3>with him. But god, I mean medieval stuff, not medieval,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know this like era of American history and

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<v Speaker 3>everything is Oh, and you're a witch. Oh she pricked

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<v Speaker 3>to you and you didn't feel it, and now I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to accuse you of witchcraft and all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, it gets so old so fast. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>In other words, I wasn't a big fan of this episode,

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<v Speaker 3>and spoilers for the next episode not a fan of

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<v Speaker 3>that one either. We got all kinds of witchcraft going

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<v Speaker 3>on in this episode, and none of it is making

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<v Speaker 3>me feel good.

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<v Speaker 2>So Chris, how about yourself?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it is, in fact witchcraft, folks, it's witchcraft. Good lord. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>this is about as obvious another one of these, just

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<v Speaker 4>like we know where you're going from a mile away,

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<v Speaker 4>and hey, let's punish the feminist folks. Nothing says in

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen eighty eight like putting a woman in her place,

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<v Speaker 4>am I right? My god? I love the idea that

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<v Speaker 4>she's just like the strong independent woman who gets burned

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<v Speaker 4>at the stake at the end. Hilarious. I will say,

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<v Speaker 4>I love how mean the episode is. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>anything that happens to Sarah McBride Havelin Morris's character is

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<v Speaker 4>remotely justified. She just she's horny, I guess is kind

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<v Speaker 4>of the way she's written, which is like fine because

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<v Speaker 4>she's like a college student, so okay, she's horny and

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<v Speaker 4>she's looking at guys and finding men attractive, and this

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<v Speaker 4>is just some like bullshit summer job. Okay, why does

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<v Speaker 4>she need to be punished and put to death again? Like,

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<v Speaker 4>holy shit, episode we're just oh as Ron Burgundy said

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<v Speaker 4>that escalating quickly, and it did. It's a fucking blackout sketch. Really, Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>what it would happen if the feminist been back in

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<v Speaker 4>time to Salem witch trial and she was burned at

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<v Speaker 4>the stake? Okay, funny, it would have been funnier if

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<v Speaker 4>she had deserved it. It just kind of feels really mean,

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<v Speaker 4>which is again tails from the dark Side, But this

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<v Speaker 4>show hasn't done that in such a long time that

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<v Speaker 4>it almost feels a little unearned. However, I will say

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<v Speaker 4>to spoil the next episode. The next episode is even

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<v Speaker 4>funnier for cards. I don't know. Maybe it's meanstreak is

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<v Speaker 4>back fallow alone.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you think in a cage for every unclean

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<v Speaker 2>and hateful bird of prey? That's what I think of

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<v Speaker 2>this episode. I don't know that he quoted that for

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<v Speaker 2>no good reason. I do think if this was like

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<v Speaker 2>a first person short story about somebody getting a job

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<v Speaker 2>at a colonial reenacting and then feeling dizzy and waking

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<v Speaker 2>up and not realizing for some time that their job

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<v Speaker 2>is actually now the time and place that they think

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<v Speaker 2>that they're reenacting, that could be interesting. But this feels

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<v Speaker 2>like all the other Tales from the Dark Side episodes

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<v Speaker 2>where they deal with like time travel or a portal

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<v Speaker 2>to another dimension or something. It always feels like there's

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<v Speaker 2>an additional thirty to forty minutes of story that we

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<v Speaker 2>are not privy to, and it's just rushing us through

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<v Speaker 2>plot points to get us to other places. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>all so convoluted, and anytime you start dealing with people

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<v Speaker 2>from our present going to the past, it's look, this

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<v Speaker 2>is like two hundred three hundred years she travels back.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything that came out of her mouth, people would be

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<v Speaker 2>like she's a witch. Just the vocal patterns alone and

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<v Speaker 2>how they're speaking. It's just it's they don't even make

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<v Speaker 2>the wherefore art that was sort of attempt with the

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<v Speaker 2>dialogue here. I do like the idea of witches in

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<v Speaker 2>Salem Village just being prime travelers from the twentieth century.

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<v Speaker 2>There there's another good idea, but they're not interested in that.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just I don't know what they're interested in. Like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, Chris, is it just the punishing feminists? Like

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<v Speaker 2>this is how you would fare back then? Because that's

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<v Speaker 2>the problem is that she starts mouthing off. You listen

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<v Speaker 2>to this guy, fuck him. Fuck here. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as she has one consation with that girl,

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<v Speaker 2>she would have known where she was. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>girl's there isn't even an attempt to have Okay, quit

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<v Speaker 2>fucking the method acting and fucking speak to me, like

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<v Speaker 2>where are you from, what town are you from? What

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<v Speaker 2>kind of car do you drive? There's no conversation at

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<v Speaker 2>all like that. It's just it's I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>very poor, very poor.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought for sure we were going to get some

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<v Speaker 3>sort of because he makes very clear get rid of

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<v Speaker 3>everything modern. She keeps a cigarette lighter that plays badly

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<v Speaker 3>for her. I thought we were going to get some

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<v Speaker 3>sort of somewhere in time scenario where she would have

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<v Speaker 3>a penny with the current year on it and then boom,

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<v Speaker 3>she wakes up in the current year something. But instead

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<v Speaker 3>we do get that moment I was talking about as

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<v Speaker 3>far as let's see how shitty it is to work

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<v Speaker 3>in one of these reenactment places, but it just doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>pay off. I mean, it's the girl from the past

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<v Speaker 3>coming in and having these morons coming in and taking

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<v Speaker 3>pictures of her and stuff. Again, it should played out

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<v Speaker 3>for a longer time. It feels like this episode was

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<v Speaker 3>so weird when it comes to how long they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to spend on each thing. And I really thought that

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<v Speaker 3>was the moment where it was like, Okay, this is great.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see her now because the other girl's dead or

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<v Speaker 3>going to be burned at the stake. Now, let's see

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<v Speaker 3>the horrible fate of this other girl. We're gonna go

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<v Speaker 3>bad and fuck you to all of our protagonists here.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go ahead, let's do it. Let's make her life

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<v Speaker 3>a living hell in the twentieth century exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And they want both of their characters to be in hell.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the idea is that a modern woman in

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<v Speaker 2>ancient times would be considered a witch and end up trapped,

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<v Speaker 2>and a time traveling elder woman would also be equally trapped,

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<v Speaker 2>but in a different way. Because they don't even consider

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<v Speaker 2>how fucked this woman's life is now this woman from

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen ninety two who doesn't speak in our language, she

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have a driver's license, scurity guard like she's working

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<v Speaker 2>at this job, who knows, like what is even happening?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's hiring her? Her dad is stuck in the past

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<v Speaker 2>because he destroyed the amazing time machine of the wagon

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<v Speaker 2>wheel affixed to a wall. Apparently that's how easy it

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<v Speaker 2>is to create. Doc Brown had it all wrong. Man

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<v Speaker 2>using fucking plutonium.

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<v Speaker 4>So I have a question, is that guy from the past.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good question, That is a good question back

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<v Speaker 3>and forth.

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<v Speaker 4>Or is he from the future. And he's like, here's

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<v Speaker 4>the way I would write this. You have a guy

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<v Speaker 4>in the current day who finds a way to go

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<v Speaker 4>to the past, and his whole thing is he's a

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<v Speaker 4>foolproof way to kill women that he doesn't like, in

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<v Speaker 4>this case feminists, by just sending them back in time

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<v Speaker 4>to get them killed because they think that they're witches,

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<v Speaker 4>because like you said, Father Milone, they're melding off. And

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<v Speaker 4>so you have this out and again like these you

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<v Speaker 4>know you put it so apptly, Father Malone have said

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<v Speaker 4>this so many times. If there was someone from one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred years ago. That's one hundred years ago dropped into

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<v Speaker 4>modern day times square today, they would die. Their brain

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<v Speaker 4>would fucking explode because there'd be so there would be

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<v Speaker 4>so many things you'd have to explain to them that

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<v Speaker 4>we take for granted, Like what we're doing right now

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<v Speaker 4>is a fucking To try and explain this to someone

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<v Speaker 4>who has no ability to even understand what a computer

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<v Speaker 4>is would be like, oh, you're taking No, you're not

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<v Speaker 4>in the same room as someone like it's it's really

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<v Speaker 4>fucked because the thing that this episode doesn't do is

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't contextualize why he's doing what he's doing. And

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<v Speaker 4>that would have been the most interesting thing of this

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<v Speaker 4>entire episode. Is this guy from the past or the

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<v Speaker 4>future or the current of the past has figured out

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<v Speaker 4>a way to go back in time or go to

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<v Speaker 4>the future, and this is what he's choosing to do

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<v Speaker 4>with it. Why that question is never answered, And that's

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<v Speaker 4>the most interesting question that is never answered, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>the thing that drives this entire goddamn episode.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying. Like the other episodes that came

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<v Speaker 2>before this, it feels like there's more plot going on

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<v Speaker 2>either before or after the episode begins or ends, and

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<v Speaker 2>all of that is more tantalizing than the story we got.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well that exactly it is. What we get on

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<v Speaker 4>screen is just kind of nothing. Really. Ultimately, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>feel like much of anything. It just feels every one

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<v Speaker 4>of these things we've seen before where someone gets trapped

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<v Speaker 4>in the past, from the future or the present day.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess that's every single one of these has been

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<v Speaker 4>the same goddamn thing every time. Every time there's and

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<v Speaker 4>where are the Stake's there?

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<v Speaker 2>The guy is from the past because he describes the

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<v Speaker 2>situation that they were sort of desperate and then their

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<v Speaker 2>situation improved once he started feeding them witches scape. So

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<v Speaker 2>that means this man from sixteen ninety two has a

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<v Speaker 2>machine that allows him to travel to the twentieth century,

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<v Speaker 2>the late twentieth century, and what he chooses to do

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<v Speaker 2>is continue to go back. Why what the fuck are

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<v Speaker 2>compared to what we have now, and then come back

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<v Speaker 2>you doing? What's anyone? The problem with most time traveling

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<v Speaker 2>things is that it is so limited in its thought

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<v Speaker 2>criminal with a time machine. You know, if you wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do good things, you could really do good things.

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<v Speaker 2>So but nobody ever thinks beyond I don't know whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>The little point they're trying to make the idea of

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<v Speaker 2>a serial killer using a time machine is fucking also awesome, Chris, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>there are so many potential like good things here and

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<v Speaker 2>all of it is squandered, including all of these people.

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<v Speaker 4>The body disappears permanently and nobody ever has to worry

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I guess that's a looper, right, that's the same

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<v Speaker 2>that's pot of looper. Looper is time Yeah, well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's it's more time after, but nobody's done it since,

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<v Speaker 4>you go, Like it doesn't even matter. But the idea that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say he's this guy from the past and he

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<v Speaker 2>theligers going to go? We've noticed that all of the

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<v Speaker 2>witches are coming out of your house. I think maybe

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<v Speaker 2>we ought to try you, sir, because you know, men

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<v Speaker 2>were not above witchcraft accusations and trials. There were plenty

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<v Speaker 3>To one of them is see if he weighs as

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<v Speaker 3>much as a duck, and if he does, he's a witch.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what they would actually do in Salem, They

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<v Speaker 2>would press him quote unquote where they yet they stack

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<v Speaker 2>there's a famous man witch.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the most famous was his last words were more weight.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just like, fuck, you add more weight before

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<v Speaker 2>I confess to being a minion of Satan.

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<v Speaker 4>That story already, that you just told in the most

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<v Speaker 4>basic three fucking words, three sentences, was better than this

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<v Speaker 4>entire episode. Cause you beat me and yeah, no, you

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<v Speaker 4>beat me to it. That's when I thought the episode

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<v Speaker 4>was going where it was going towards the end, I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, Oh, was Sarah McBride a real person at Salem?

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what they were doing? Oh? That would have

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<v Speaker 4>been kind of clever. Nope, that wasn't even it like that,

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<v Speaker 4>And I would have given the episode a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>of credit if they had done that, to just tie

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<v Speaker 4>it in, to be like, oh, one of the real

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<v Speaker 4>people at Salem. Actually that was okay, that's kind of fun. Nope,

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<v Speaker 4>they did. They did. They couldn't even be bothered to

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, remember when they did this on Twilight soon

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<v Speaker 2>eighty five with James Cromwell. They did a time travel

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<v Speaker 2>episode or a sort of rain transference through time episode,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was pretty good. They actually went out on

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<v Speaker 2>location and gave us some pilgrim. I mean, it was California,

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<v Speaker 2>but at least they gave us some geography. Here we're

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<v Speaker 2>trapped in this really poor set. Clearly doesn't seem to

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<v Speaker 2>age at all. I mean, dirtying up one painting does

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<v Speaker 2>not equal three hundred years of progress.

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<v Speaker 3>Why is the paint too clean?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, yeah, that's what she knowed. Yeah yeah, not

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<v Speaker 2>I say not the bugs crawling everywhere, not the fucking

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<v Speaker 4>Not the lack of noise.

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<v Speaker 2>The lack of noise. How about the amount of oxygen

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<v Speaker 2>in the air like her lungs suddenly fucking screaming because

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<v Speaker 2>it's gotten more than it has ever received in its

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<v Speaker 4>Time travel, for me, is always so lazy because the

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<v Speaker 4>things that are ignored are the things that could be interesting,

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<v Speaker 4>and just nobody cares because it's Oh, you know, if

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<v Speaker 4>you add somebody from the bass Rabble to the future,

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<v Speaker 4>of course they would understand immediately, like no, they would not.

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<v Speaker 4>Their brain would explode inside of their head, their eyes

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<v Speaker 4>would roll into the back of their head, and they'd

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<v Speaker 4>be dead because they wouldn't even understand a cell phone

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<v Speaker 4>you fire from your hand, magic fire, that's a lighter.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you imagine trying to explain simple circuits to these

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<v Speaker 4>fucking morons, let alone like how a fucking lighter works?

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so lazy. I hate this kind of shit, especially

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<v Speaker 4>when it's in short form narratives. Even this is where

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<v Speaker 4>the Dodges and cheets really happen.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta get a ron silver and go back in

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<v Speaker 3>time and like trade stocks and do all that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of stuff. As long as Jean Claude van Dam doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>get wind of it, you are on easy street. My friend,

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<v Speaker 3>Jean Vandam will always get wind of it. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 3>he is a time cop after all.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. It's time.

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<v Speaker 4>If I had a time machine, I would be such

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<v Speaker 4>a fucking so banal. I would just go make money,

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<v Speaker 4>Just make money, Like why would I go give a

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<v Speaker 4>shit about anything else? Like, not anything that any one

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<v Speaker 4>of us could do with a time machine to stop

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<v Speaker 4>anything that's happened. But to this point, I feel like, so,

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<v Speaker 4>no matter how many good decisions I could go and make,

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<v Speaker 4>just make some money and try to insulate myself from

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<v Speaker 4>all the bad things that are happening. But or, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>just get women to die and Salem at the cross

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<v Speaker 4>because they're witches. That's funnier, right.

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite recent time travel thing, and by recent, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean a decade ago Leam Lynch, the comedian, the director

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<v Speaker 2>of Tenacious D's Pick of Destiny. He has his own

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<v Speaker 2>web series and he has a segment called Time Taggers,

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<v Speaker 2>which is just this idiot tagger who goes back in

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<v Speaker 2>time and tags things like so he goes back out

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<v Speaker 2>to fucking tag that ship. He does, and then he

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<v Speaker 2>gets back into the time machine.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what would happen if an idiot had a time machine?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't really care about What would happen if a

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<v Speaker 4>smart person at a time machine? What happened if a moron?

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<v Speaker 2>It a total dunce.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's like that character from the Good Place.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine him with a time machine. He would just be shawing.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, can you imagine Jason with the time machine?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I want to see that series. Actually, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that would be a good spin off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I just give me Dexter with the time machine and

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<v Speaker 4>we're good going back in. You know, that show's jumped

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<v Speaker 4>the shark at this point. Who fucking cares.

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<v Speaker 2>I liked this latest season.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying it was sad, but you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we've gone around the bend to this point

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<v Speaker 4>where it's like Simpson's postmodern, where we're just like, we

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<v Speaker 4>don't even care about reality anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, the show should have not cared about

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<v Speaker 2>reality after season two with that fucking serial killer conceit.

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<v Speaker 2>They should have been having a blast a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you know what, like a time killing serial killer.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that is a thing that we have yet

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<v Speaker 4>to really see. And this has that idea, it's that

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<v Speaker 4>nugget in it, and it's that's for me. It should

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<v Speaker 4>have been more interesting than it is. But a wagon

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<v Speaker 4>wheel on a wall is not. That's not doing it

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<v Speaker 4>for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>The Cutty Black Sow Season four, episode fourteen. This aired

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<v Speaker 2>originally on May the eighth, nineteen eighty eight. Written by

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<v Speaker 2>Michael McDowell from a story by Thomas Montalioni and directed

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<v Speaker 2>by Richard Glass, this one stars Huckleberry Fox not Kidding,

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<v Speaker 2>Paula Truman, Timothy Landfield, and Mary Griffin as a Gloria

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<v Speaker 2>That's the little Sister. When a young boy's great grandmother

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<v Speaker 2>dies on Halloween, he's tasked with saving the souls of

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<v Speaker 2>his family before an ancient legend can snatch him away.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take the lead on this one because it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like you two are ready to beat up on it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I fucking love this. Or Okay, this is as

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<v Speaker 2>old a ghost story as I've ever heard, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>heard variations of this growing up, so this is not

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<v Speaker 2>un known to me, this story of the Cutty Black Sow.

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<v Speaker 2>The story that we're given here is this great grandmother

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<v Speaker 2>is on her deathbed. By the way, don't bring your

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<v Speaker 2>children to great grandma's deathbed, because if the child is

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<v Speaker 2>just going to say, is she really gonna die over

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<v Speaker 2>and over again. That's probably not good for her mental

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<v Speaker 2>health as she's slowly passing away anyway. So the setup

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<v Speaker 2>is that great Grandma is dying and is going to

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<v Speaker 2>die on Halloween, and it is revealed that from her

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<v Speaker 2>Scottish heritage that if that were to occur, that everyone

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<v Speaker 2>in the family's soul is at risk because the cutty

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<v Speaker 2>black Sow will be on the way to grab some

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<v Speaker 2>souls and the only way to prevent that is to

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<v Speaker 2>have a rock that represents each of your family members souls.

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<v Speaker 2>You keep that in a fire. As long as they

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<v Speaker 2>stay in that fire, they'll be Okay, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>real myth from the UK. Okay, Michael McDowell, who is

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<v Speaker 2>obviously of Scottish descent, has said it as a Scottish myth.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why, because this whole thing is Welsh

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<v Speaker 2>as Welsh as Welsh can be. This is actually knows

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<v Speaker 2>Kalan Gott, which is the Welsh equivalent of Halloween, takes

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<v Speaker 2>place on November the first, which is the first day

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<v Speaker 2>of winter, and the cuddy Black Sow is leave it

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<v Speaker 2>to the Welsh to actually personify those demonic forces because

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<v Speaker 2>in Ireland, where all Hallows Eve actually originates from It's

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<v Speaker 2>fucking It's just spirits might get you here. It's one

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<v Speaker 2>spirit's coming for you. So they created the original Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Myers in Wales with this character. I liked how simple

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<v Speaker 2>this story was. I liked how well written each of

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<v Speaker 2>the characters, where this is Michael McDowell obviously working here.

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<v Speaker 2>I liked that the fact that the kids when dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with one another, felt like children. Obviously Huckleberry Fox, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why we didn't see more and more and

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<v Speaker 2>more of him. The kid is preternatural. We're so used

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<v Speaker 2>to precocious thanks to fucking so many years of night

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<v Speaker 2>Gallery that anytime I see a child performer who doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>suck completely and actually seems not precocious but with it

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<v Speaker 2>like this kid did, oh my god, he's fucking again.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why he didn't do more and more stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And I including Mary Griffin as his little sister because

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<v Speaker 2>she's just as good as him.

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<v Speaker 4>I liked there a diplomat to the United States Department

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<v Speaker 4>of Agriculture, that's why Fox. Yeah, he became like a

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<v Speaker 4>like a government dude, like he had a master's in

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<v Speaker 4>animal science and shit and a PhD In plant medicine.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a smart guy, so he was probably good

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<v Speaker 4>at acting, but probably good at a lot of other things.

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<v Speaker 4>And by the way, passed away last year at the

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<v Speaker 4>age of fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, that's smart, dude. That's why. So to answer your

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<v Speaker 4>to give you an answer immediately, there's why.

421
00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:39.799
<v Speaker 2>I like the simplicity of this story. And this might

422
00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:45.519
<v Speaker 2>be just me relating more than y'all, but there's something

423
00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:48.559
<v Speaker 2>about the connection as like a grandchild or a great

424
00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:53.440
<v Speaker 2>grandchild in some cases, and that relative that doesn't sort

425
00:21:53.440 --> 00:21:56.119
<v Speaker 2>of exist between the parents and them. I don't know.

426
00:21:56.119 --> 00:21:58.000
<v Speaker 2>There's something special about her and the fact that it

427
00:21:58.039 --> 00:22:00.240
<v Speaker 2>turns into this quest for this kid and he takes

428
00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:04.359
<v Speaker 2>so seriously and spoilers. This is as tails from the

429
00:22:04.440 --> 00:22:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Dark Side as you can get as far as an

430
00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:09.519
<v Speaker 2>ending goes. He does everything right and for his troubles

431
00:22:09.759 --> 00:22:12.799
<v Speaker 2>when it's revealed that he's the soul that fell out

432
00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:14.960
<v Speaker 2>of the fire and there's a bang on the window.

433
00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Actually jumped. I've seen this episode a dozen times. Actually jump.

434
00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:21.640
<v Speaker 2>The creature at the end is wonderful. It is they

435
00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:25.680
<v Speaker 2>unlike most Dark Side where they're just relying on the

436
00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:29.119
<v Speaker 2>effect because the effect is great. They shoot this really

437
00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:31.960
<v Speaker 2>sort of murkily, and it comes off as very scary

438
00:22:32.039 --> 00:22:34.640
<v Speaker 2>when it stands up and opens its mouth, fucking freak

439
00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:37.119
<v Speaker 2>me out. Anyway, that was my take on it. How

440
00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:37.839
<v Speaker 2>about you, Chris.

441
00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:42.039
<v Speaker 4>I am so glad that somebody repurposed the monster from

442
00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:46.160
<v Speaker 4>Ernest Scared Stupid into something else, because that is what

443
00:22:46.279 --> 00:22:48.279
<v Speaker 4>the creature at the end of this episode looks like.

444
00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:52.119
<v Speaker 4>Is the troll from Trantor. It has that same like

445
00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:54.720
<v Speaker 4>weird pig nos thing, So I don't think it was

446
00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:56.799
<v Speaker 4>inspired by this at all, but it's that same weird

447
00:22:56.839 --> 00:23:01.079
<v Speaker 4>like pig poor sign face and that character design in

448
00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:03.119
<v Speaker 4>that movie, So it would like really reminded me of that.

449
00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:05.400
<v Speaker 4>It is scary, I will give you that. Like I

450
00:23:05.400 --> 00:23:08.920
<v Speaker 4>think it's a very atmospheric episode. I can't help but

451
00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:12.119
<v Speaker 4>wonder if I would have enjoyed it more if this

452
00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:14.039
<v Speaker 4>had been the first time I'd seen something like this.

453
00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:18.400
<v Speaker 4>But because I've seen so many of these now, it

454
00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:21.400
<v Speaker 4>does feel a little old hat, but it does feel

455
00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:26.599
<v Speaker 4>more well. It feels better executed than the other ones

456
00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:28.640
<v Speaker 4>have been. It reminds me of some of the other

457
00:23:28.720 --> 00:23:31.000
<v Speaker 4>episodes like this that we've seen where it's two kids

458
00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:33.640
<v Speaker 4>at home or a kid at home by himself being

459
00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:36.559
<v Speaker 4>tormented and plagued by something. And I mean again, you're

460
00:23:36.559 --> 00:23:40.119
<v Speaker 4>trafficking and a kid at home by himself or themselves,

461
00:23:40.559 --> 00:23:42.920
<v Speaker 4>and that's scary enough as it is, and then you

462
00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:47.319
<v Speaker 4>have the possibility of there being this demonic pig woman

463
00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:52.319
<v Speaker 4>that walks on her fucking rear legs, which is scary,

464
00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:56.119
<v Speaker 4>like beyond scary. Really, Like, you don't have to sell

465
00:23:56.160 --> 00:23:58.920
<v Speaker 4>me on that being scary episode, Like I get it.

466
00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:01.319
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I guess I'm just a little worn

467
00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:03.720
<v Speaker 4>down by these kinds of episodes and pairing it up

468
00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:07.839
<v Speaker 4>with something like The Apprentice, which feels very thematically similar,

469
00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:10.599
<v Speaker 4>and I wasn't jiving with that episode. It probably didn't

470
00:24:10.599 --> 00:24:13.319
<v Speaker 4>help it. But I didn't actually disliked this episode. I

471
00:24:13.400 --> 00:24:18.000
<v Speaker 4>just kind of it was fine. It was fine. It

472
00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:19.880
<v Speaker 4>just maybe took a little long to get where it

473
00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:21.279
<v Speaker 4>was going. Mike, what did you think?

474
00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Not a fan?

475
00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:26.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad that you explained the mythos of this, because

476
00:24:27.079 --> 00:24:29.240
<v Speaker 3>I just kept go what is he doing with these

477
00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:33.000
<v Speaker 3>stonees and the fire? And he just kept saying the

478
00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:34.759
<v Speaker 3>same stuff over and over again. I was just like,

479
00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:37.880
<v Speaker 3>I just I'm not connecting with what he's supposed to

480
00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:41.759
<v Speaker 3>be doing. And I don't get this myth. I've never

481
00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:44.839
<v Speaker 3>heard of this myth before. So I'm just like something

482
00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:48.839
<v Speaker 3>something stones. Okay, he's got a little sister, is she

483
00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:52.799
<v Speaker 3>going to get eaten? Our parents not going to believe him? No,

484
00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:55.359
<v Speaker 3>they're not going to believe him. And I don't know.

485
00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:58.319
<v Speaker 3>I just kept thinking back to the gosh, was that

486
00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:01.920
<v Speaker 3>the first season of this show? Or was it even Yeah,

487
00:25:01.960 --> 00:25:03.480
<v Speaker 3>I think it was the first season of this or

488
00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:07.000
<v Speaker 3>maybe it was Twilight's own eighty five with the Grandma's

489
00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:11.200
<v Speaker 3>story from Stephen King that I felt was a lot

490
00:25:11.319 --> 00:25:15.480
<v Speaker 3>scarier because the Grandma and that was scary rather than dead.

491
00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:17.759
<v Speaker 4>That is what this reminded me of. It did have

492
00:25:17.839 --> 00:25:21.440
<v Speaker 4>Grandma in its DNA for sure.

493
00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:24.400
<v Speaker 2>This actually reminded me more of Trick or Treat the

494
00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:27.160
<v Speaker 2>very first episode of the season. Here. This felt to

495
00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:30.960
<v Speaker 2>me like what they were trying to shoot for for

496
00:25:31.000 --> 00:25:34.480
<v Speaker 2>the entire series, because the look of this one is great.

497
00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:36.279
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't feel like a set at all. That I've

498
00:25:36.279 --> 00:25:38.759
<v Speaker 2>always said Tamson dark Side feels the best when it

499
00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:41.000
<v Speaker 2>feels like a short film. This felt like a short film.

500
00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Didn't feel like they were on some sound stage somewhere

501
00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:46.400
<v Speaker 2>just banging this out. It seemed like that there was

502
00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:49.680
<v Speaker 2>care taken with the shots and the setups and everything.

503
00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:52.680
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of mythology just sort of cram in here.

504
00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:55.720
<v Speaker 2>And again, this is just a fucking quibble. But why,

505
00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Michael McDonnell is, did you suddenly decide it was Scotland.

506
00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:01.079
<v Speaker 2>I talked to my friend way Else today and she

507
00:26:01.240 --> 00:26:04.039
<v Speaker 2>was like, well, it doesn't really matter. It's just Gaelic nonsense.

508
00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:06.839
<v Speaker 2>No matter where you go, there's always some variation on it,

509
00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:09.039
<v Speaker 2>so don't sweat it too much. But at the same time,

510
00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:10.839
<v Speaker 2>like they have fucking they got the they got a

511
00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:13.960
<v Speaker 2>bagpipe lament going on here. At one point in Victoria

512
00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:16.799
<v Speaker 2>was like, why why are you so focused on that? Anyway?

513
00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Why am I so focused on it?

514
00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:21.079
<v Speaker 4>Well, no, let's let's let's break it down for a second.

515
00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:23.920
<v Speaker 4>To be fair, the cutting black saw is not something

516
00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:25.759
<v Speaker 4>that if you even go and google it, you're gonna

517
00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:28.559
<v Speaker 4>get a whole lot of information about. And so if

518
00:26:28.599 --> 00:26:30.400
<v Speaker 4>you're gonna go out of your way, and this is

519
00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:32.799
<v Speaker 4>something I realized in doing scary stories. We tell if

520
00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:34.240
<v Speaker 4>you're gonna go out of your way, to pick something

521
00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:38.680
<v Speaker 4>specific like this, Why why not do it the justice

522
00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:41.079
<v Speaker 4>that it deserves, because there were very few things about

523
00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:44.160
<v Speaker 4>the cutty black sow out there, which is a Gaelic

524
00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:48.759
<v Speaker 4>thing that is not being correctly interpreted in this episode,

525
00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:50.839
<v Speaker 4>but they went out of their way to mention it.

526
00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:53.559
<v Speaker 4>They could have said anything else they said.

527
00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:56.680
<v Speaker 2>They could have said nothing, but oh and the only

528
00:26:56.720 --> 00:26:58.480
<v Speaker 2>reason we know it, other than the fact that fucking

529
00:26:58.480 --> 00:27:02.119
<v Speaker 2>bagpipes are playing every ten second, is that the grandmother

530
00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:05.480
<v Speaker 2>keeps referring to Halloween as all hallows and which is

531
00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:07.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, the original By the way, remember when that

532
00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:10.519
<v Speaker 2>was unknown to people, like in the eighties if you

533
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:12.480
<v Speaker 2>said all hallows and they'd be like, oh, really, that's

534
00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:15.519
<v Speaker 2>the actual work comes on from interesting anyway, we take you.

535
00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:18.400
<v Speaker 4>Granted the ability to google shit now, like I know,

536
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:20.000
<v Speaker 4>really do you know?

537
00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:22.880
<v Speaker 2>So she says all hallows even and they're like what

538
00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:25.000
<v Speaker 2>and the husband's like, oh, that's what they how they

539
00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:27.160
<v Speaker 2>used to say it in Scotland, Like oh, okay, so now

540
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:29.160
<v Speaker 2>we're dealing with a Scottish myth. Gotcha.

541
00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:32.200
<v Speaker 4>Why do you think when we have an episode like this,

542
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:35.319
<v Speaker 4>why do you think the kid had to die at

543
00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:38.519
<v Speaker 4>the end? Is my question. I'm so curious, like I,

544
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:40.680
<v Speaker 4>is it just Tails from the Dark Side being Tales

545
00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:44.359
<v Speaker 4>from the Dark Side? Okay, cool, because I appreciate this

546
00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:47.920
<v Speaker 4>show so much for that because Tales from the Crypt

547
00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:50.720
<v Speaker 4>didn't even do that. Yeah, and that was a show

548
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:54.680
<v Speaker 4>that was on fucking HBO. Yeah, I appreciate the means.

549
00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:57.000
<v Speaker 4>Like I know that the last episode was also rather

550
00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:00.960
<v Speaker 4>mean spirited, but this one really owes for it and

551
00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:04.480
<v Speaker 4>I appreciate that about it because this is supposed to be,

552
00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:07.839
<v Speaker 4>you know, a fairy tale or cautionary tale for children.

553
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:10.039
<v Speaker 4>I mean it. You know, they're telling the story. There's

554
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:12.319
<v Speaker 4>some metaaness to this story, right because they're telling the

555
00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:16.680
<v Speaker 4>story about the cutty black Sow. But the story that

556
00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:19.680
<v Speaker 4>we are seeing could be told to a child about

557
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:22.960
<v Speaker 4>the cutty black sow, about this kid and his interaction

558
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:24.759
<v Speaker 4>with it, and the way that it ends is that

559
00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:28.279
<v Speaker 4>cautionary tale of you know, be careful and meddling in

560
00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:31.160
<v Speaker 4>things you don't understand. But he's learning about it within

561
00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:33.559
<v Speaker 4>this story. So there's some metainess to what we're seeing.

562
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:37.160
<v Speaker 4>But I love that this show just is refuses to

563
00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:40.519
<v Speaker 4>pull punches when it comes to kids. In this show,

564
00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:43.160
<v Speaker 4>and like preteens and young adults, and like the main

565
00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:47.279
<v Speaker 4>characters who do everything they can, do everything they can

566
00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:49.680
<v Speaker 4>to the best of their abilities, still failing. I appreciate

567
00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:52.480
<v Speaker 4>that this show goes there because a lot of these

568
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:55.519
<v Speaker 4>anthology shows don't go the full distance, and I don't

569
00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:57.519
<v Speaker 4>know why, Like there's no reason not to.

570
00:28:58.200 --> 00:29:00.400
<v Speaker 2>You could say that on Nike coll they weren't going

571
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:03.279
<v Speaker 2>to kill a kid. I think Rod probably would put

572
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:06.000
<v Speaker 2>an end to that sort of nonsense. And Tails from

573
00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:09.960
<v Speaker 2>the Crypt really very rarely had children at the center.

574
00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Like I can think of three basically off the top

575
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:13.759
<v Speaker 2>of my head, and those might be the only three

576
00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:16.960
<v Speaker 2>that exists on Telsmith. But here on tarc side Man,

577
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:19.559
<v Speaker 2>the kids are literally on the menu.

578
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:22.920
<v Speaker 1>All the time.

579
00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:27.720
<v Speaker 4>That fucking teddy bear that kills the kid, the giant

580
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:31.039
<v Speaker 4>goddamn teddy bear that busts through the door that kills

581
00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:34.880
<v Speaker 4>the mom and kid. There's another episode that ends similarly

582
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:37.119
<v Speaker 4>to this one, isn't there where it's just like the

583
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:40.400
<v Speaker 4>shot of essentially the monster just like looming over the

584
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:43.119
<v Speaker 4>kid in first person, Like there's another episode of the show.

585
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:45.839
<v Speaker 2>Well, there would be seasons of belief with the Grither,

586
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:48.559
<v Speaker 2>which ends up fucking killing the parents and then just leaving,

587
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:51.240
<v Speaker 2>leaving the kids sitting there with their dead parents at

588
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Christmas time. All right, Michael McDowell, all.

589
00:29:55.400 --> 00:30:00.240
<v Speaker 4>Right, breaking the parents necks giant, horrifying.

590
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Hand AND's as big as basketball.

591
00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:06.200
<v Speaker 4>Still a strange size comparative, but all right, what what

592
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:07.720
<v Speaker 4>a great name is Huckleberry Fox?

593
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:12.000
<v Speaker 2>By the way, my parents dropped the ball.

594
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:15.839
<v Speaker 3>So when he introduces himself to people, does he go,

595
00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:17.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm a Huckleberry?

596
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:18.240
<v Speaker 2>I bet he has?

597
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:23.640
<v Speaker 4>I bet George Miller Fox was his was his birth name?

598
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh so Huckleberry is just a stage name, nickname, maybe

599
00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Boo take away.

600
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:34.400
<v Speaker 4>Out of Alone.

601
00:30:35.839 --> 00:30:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Come on, now, it's all show biz. That's right, because

602
00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:41.559
<v Speaker 2>but you know what, Look, my name is never going

603
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:44.200
<v Speaker 2>to be Father as my first name. His name potentially

604
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:46.279
<v Speaker 2>could have been Huckleberry, which would have been cool.

605
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:48.480
<v Speaker 4>Well that's what he was built in this episode.

606
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:50.960
<v Speaker 2>As I do want to see you're thinking as Huckleberry.

607
00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:52.759
<v Speaker 4>I do want to ask you, guys, because you mentioned

608
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:54.759
<v Speaker 4>it in an opening of this Father Malone, and it

609
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:58.359
<v Speaker 4>got me thinking, what in God's name were these parents

610
00:30:58.359 --> 00:31:02.319
<v Speaker 4>thinking bringing their kids to the bedside of her grandmother?

611
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:04.599
<v Speaker 4>That is the most you know, the Cuddy blacksoul is

612
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:08.279
<v Speaker 4>disturbing obviously, Like the practical effect is very like it's

613
00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:10.200
<v Speaker 4>weird and it's gross and it's creepy, and the way

614
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:10.920
<v Speaker 4>that they shoot it.

615
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:12.519
<v Speaker 2>With the eyes it's great.

616
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:15.519
<v Speaker 4>But the real horrifying part of this episode are these

617
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:17.759
<v Speaker 4>kids next to the bed of the dying grandmother and

618
00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:21.240
<v Speaker 4>she's just like, I'm dying. I'm dying. Oh, I'm dying.

619
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:22.759
<v Speaker 4>What the fuck were you thinking?

620
00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, look were you thinking? First of all, they do

621
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:29.200
<v Speaker 2>send the kids away before she dies, and wow, and

622
00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:32.599
<v Speaker 2>they'd gather her. They gather them there to say goodbye

623
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:35.480
<v Speaker 2>to her, and is what the idea was. But they

624
00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:37.960
<v Speaker 2>get so caught up an exposition at that moment that

625
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:40.400
<v Speaker 2>you don't really get that sort of tender moment. It's

626
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:43.519
<v Speaker 2>good and really really the whole scene is just about

627
00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:46.359
<v Speaker 2>the grandson and the great or the great grandson and

628
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:49.680
<v Speaker 2>great grandmother. In fact, I'm not sure why they even

629
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<v Speaker 2>had the rest of the family there. He should have

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<v Speaker 2>snuck into her room or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't Yeah, I don't understand either.

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<v Speaker 2>Other than to father to give exposition, which is what

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<v Speaker 2>we got.

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<v Speaker 4>Right. Well, there's only twenty three minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll say this and one of the reasons that

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<v Speaker 2>I do like this one in particular, and why the

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<v Speaker 2>ending resonates it, and maybe it's not just a dark

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<v Speaker 2>side thing here, because with most sort of Celtic myths,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as or not myths but fables, there is

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<v Speaker 2>a level of inevitability to them that once the sort

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<v Speaker 2>of die has been cast, there is no redemption from it.

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<v Speaker 2>There comes a part in all of their in most

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<v Speaker 2>of these stories where once a character has been cursed,

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<v Speaker 2>that's it and we're just waiting out the clock. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no ultimate last minute win for these things. And knowing

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<v Speaker 2>that this was a Celtic myth to begin with, as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as that stone turned over, I was like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 2>that's perfect. I can't not that I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 2>watch a kid die or something, but you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't wait to see how this plays out. What's great

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<v Speaker 2>is even with the sort of acceptance and the inevitability

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<v Speaker 2>of it, it's still a horrifying end.

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<v Speaker 4>And that he dies, we're not even sure that he dies.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it is therefore it's stolen, but really it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to run away with you.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, again, who knows what the fate of someone

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<v Speaker 4>whose soul is stolen in the universes, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean. That's you know, I don't know what that means,

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<v Speaker 4>but that could be potentially worse, you know, just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>comatized for the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just it's that cautionary tale of the fate. Is

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<v Speaker 4>awful and you don't even want to comprehend what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>So maybe it's better just to die. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 4>better that the thing just fucking kills me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't want to know what a six foot

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<v Speaker 2>black pig walking upright with glowing red eyes wants of me, soul.

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<v Speaker 4>With soul stealing ability.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really serious? Is this sorry curious? That serious? I'm

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<v Speaker 3>very curious. Is this where the one of the antagonists

671
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<v Speaker 3>from that horrific Hellboy remake came from? Because there was

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<v Speaker 3>a Scottish sounding pig man in that movie, and so

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<v Speaker 3>while I was watching the end of this, I was

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<v Speaker 3>just like, Oh, it's that guy from the Hellboy whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>old and crooked man. The no, no, you guys are

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<v Speaker 3>missing the one with David Harbor.

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<v Speaker 4>That one, that one that hell.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd have to rewatch. But I mean, if it's a.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike, you beat me. I don't think you have to, will.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what, though, I take that back. Actually watched

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<v Speaker 4>that movie and it wasn't terrible, But I did watch

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<v Speaker 4>that other one beforehand, the newer one, and that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Is pretty bad. That one Crooked Man Crooked Man was

684
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:34.760
<v Speaker 3>so bad. I mean, that makes the David Harbor one

685
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<v Speaker 3>look like an Oscar contender.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I disagree, really yeah, I like like I like her.

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<v Speaker 2>Really it's so cheap. It did look really cheap, but

688
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:48.039
<v Speaker 2>it felt like I mean, it felt like a television episode,

689
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<v Speaker 2>is what it felt. And but it felt to me

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<v Speaker 2>like just a really good one off of a bpr

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<v Speaker 2>D comic. That's all that's fair.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I could get I can get behind that. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that. I don't know, Mike, you maybe onto something

694
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<v Speaker 4>with that being from that hell Boy movie. I just mean,

695
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<v Speaker 4>you know, cutty black Salad is like when you google

696
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<v Speaker 4>it like it's this, like it's this and one or

697
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<v Speaker 4>two other things and very little else. And so to

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<v Speaker 4>your point point from before father moment, get it right.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're gonna do it at all, don't do Loveland

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<v Speaker 4>Frog and then not mention Loveland. If you're gonna do

701
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<v Speaker 4>the thing. There are some cryptids that you can get

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<v Speaker 4>away with, like Bigfoot, but something.

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<v Speaker 2>Right here in Wisconsin looking for the locknest monster.

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<v Speaker 4>Buck are you talking about again? It's it reminds me

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit of the misinterpretation of the Deal with

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<v Speaker 4>the Devil episode from the last episode, where it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>what why are you gonna go through all this effort?

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<v Speaker 4>Not land the plane? Put the landing gear down, Folks Like,

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<v Speaker 4>we're ninety nine percent of the way there. Don't do this.

710
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<v Speaker 4>You had intent, could have done anything else, and you

711
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:46.760
<v Speaker 4>chose this, so why not commit to it completely?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? On the next episode of mid nine Viewing,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be taking a look at the next two episodes

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<v Speaker 2>of season four. Those are Do Not Open This Box

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<v Speaker 2>and Family Reunion Midnight Viewing. The Horror Anthology podcast is

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<v Speaker 2>a proud member of a weirding Way Media and the

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<v Speaker 2>theme song was composed by HP with an assist by

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Rubinstein. Until next time? What are you working on?

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<v Speaker 2>Where can people find it? Chris stash you.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything that I work on, including this show, can be

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<v Speaker 4>found at weirdingwaymedia dot com, where I put the Weekly

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<v Speaker 4>back in Weekly podcast with the Culture Cast, which is

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<v Speaker 4>a show that I'm finally doing weekly once again after

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<v Speaker 4>being on a hiatus for well a long time, so

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<v Speaker 4>I'm back doing that. But more importantly, head on over

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<v Speaker 4>is doing two episodes a week, which is a lot,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm not doing that. So if you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>support someone financially who's busting their ass right now, specifically

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<v Speaker 4>review anything that you listen to, regardless of who does

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<v Speaker 4>it on iTunes, because that's where you can help any

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<v Speaker 4>one of us out. So I don't know how many

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<v Speaker 4>bases I covered, but I feel like a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 4>So coick it to you, Mike, what about you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, same thing he has for me.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to the show I do. Tune in on

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<v Speaker 2>Mondays to Father Malone's a weekly round up where I

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<v Speaker 2>look at the latest in the streaming and theatrical releases,

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<v Speaker 2>and every Friday year they're gonna hear us talking about

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<v Speaker 2>one of these anthology series. You're gonna hear one of

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<v Speaker 2>our fests. Right now, we're involved in Morana's Fest looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the movies of Rick Moranis and the books of Bloodfest.

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<v Speaker 2>We're looking at all the movies based on the books

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<v Speaker 2>of Blood from Clive Barker. Until next time, everybody, try

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<v Speaker 2>to enjoy the daylight

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<v Speaker 1>The shop to