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Speaker 3: How's it going Cliff, It's.
Speaker 1: Going all right, man.
Speaker 2: We've got a fun guest today. I know that we're
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And of course we'll get to that probably
towards the end because we have a lot of other
fun stuff to talk about in between, because today's guest
is the lovely and talented Chad hammil who was the
supervising field producer for Finding Bigfoot. We've had Chad on
one other time on the podcast, but I know a
lot of people enjoy finding Bigfoot alumni on the show
because they get to see behind the curtain a little
bit and talk about what went on behind the scenes
and how certain scenes were set up and all that
kind of stuff, and Chad was I guess there's two
ways to look at it. He was either in charge
of it all or he's the guy solely to blame.
Either way, Chad, how you doing?
Speaker 1: Man? Doing good? Thanks? Guys.
Speaker 3: You'll do anything without a mouthful of food.
Speaker 4: I didn't have a mouthful of food, but I'll do
it again.
Speaker 1: Nothing.
Speaker 3: Something he has like a big water of tuning the
baca or food or something.
Speaker 1: I mean, I always have a big about tuneing tobacco
in just because I get kidnapped by some big foots,
I can give him that and make him sick.
Speaker 2: A deep gut Albert ausmin reference. So Chad, you know,
I mean not not every TV producer knows anything about
Albert Ousman. How do you feel about that? Like like
a What I mean by that is you are now
blessed dash curse with a tremendous amount of bigfoot knowledge.
Did you ever think that was gonna happen to you
in your life?
Speaker 1: No, that's a simple answer.
Speaker 2: No. Is it a curse for a blessing?
Speaker 1: Well, it's starting to become kind of a fun blessing
because I've been back single again, and so I've been
like going on in dates and it's a great conversation starter.
People are like, oh what what how does this?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: They always want to know about Bigfoot, and I'm like,
how much do you want to know? And how deep
dives you want to go? Because there's a lot of
wormholes there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great date fodder though, Oh it.
Speaker 1: Is because you know when people like also just like
you'd like to like kind of like leave a big
statement start kind of in big Uous.
Speaker 4: It's like I went from looking for Bigfoot for years
to make a nice.
Speaker 1: Tea and everyone's like, wait, wait, wait, hold on, what
you got you explain this to me?
Speaker 4: So then it's it's a conversation starter for sure.
Speaker 2: Well he also took a side trip over to Shark
Week for a while, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, So after working on Bigfoot, I did
a couple more like sort of in the paranormal world
of ghost shows and things like that. But ghost people
are crazy. So then I moved over to like, yeah,
more nature shows, and I did a lot of shark shows,
survivals shows, things like that.
Speaker 4: And then the last big show I did was for Netflix.
Speaker 1: It was a Shark International shark competition show called All
the Sharks where we went around the world when these
four teams, like shark experts would go and try to
fight and and pick photos of different sharks with different
boys kind of like Pokemon go uh huh. And that
was really cool though, because it's like it was it's
a it was more about conservation and like you know,
like and showing the show in the world that you know,
there's more than five kinds of sharks. There's more than
this just you know, the great whites, tigers, bulls, and hammerheads.
There's most sharks are under one foot long, and you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: Well those are just the big glamour sharks, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well you know how TV does it, they'd like they
only like to have just the biggest thing that that
simplified down to one note. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: That That's something I always found a little frustrating with
the TV show The Finding Bigfoot. Thing is that we
are catering to a mass audience in a lot of ways,
so you couldn't really get deep and nerdy as I
as my tendencies tend to cool or deep and cool, yeah,
depending on that.
Speaker 1: I believe that networks under they underestimate their audience. They
think their ardis is dumb. But then you go to
like look at like really smart scripted shows. They don't
understand sim their adis and they have just fine numbers.
I think the reason TV's dying right now is because
networks just aren't smart. They did they they thought they're
smarter than their audience.
Speaker 2: They certainly thought they were smarter than us.
Speaker 3: We showed them. Yeah jah, did you ever did you
ever notice a correlation like when you're doing other nature shows,
like especially something like like great waves or tigers or
bull sharks and the trollers like somewhere like well maybe
it's more like not Western, like you know, like they
haven't been exposed to TV for seventy years and this
and that you ever noticed any overlap between like how
they how like they talk about bastically about a bigfoot
and like a tiger shark or something was there they
never noticed any common denominators.
Speaker 1: Well again, this goes back to network stuff that was
always wanted to like try to like find one specific shark,
like you know, like hey, go We're gonna go out
there and find and they would just make up a
name like go find Queenie and she's the biggest beast
shark of the lad and so it's it's it's more
like making branding a monster and even looking for that monster.
But as far as like looking for things those I
mean sharks. A lot of times with the with the
sharks stuff I did, we were going to places that
we knew sharks were at. I mean, obviously sharks aren't.
They don't come to you as as like when you
want them to. So, but but like you know, like
you're going to like if you go to like Tiger
Beach and in Bahamas, you're gonna see a hundred tiger sharks.
Did they hear the boats coming in? And it's just
like a chum and that they they don't even need
chump in the water. They hear it.
Speaker 4: And then you look back behind the boat there's a
hundred tiger sharks f on you.
Speaker 2: Doesn't sound like a great place to swim.
Speaker 4: No, if someone goes you can jump in Jagon, No,
there's sharks in there.
Speaker 1: Did you ever jump in? I did want so. I
was in South Africa and we were I forgot the
place wherepp but we're on a reef and there's a
black tips that are you know, they're not that dangers.
They're not dangerou shrucks from what I've been told, but
they're big. There's like, I don't know, like six long
and we're doing b roll and some of the guys go, hey,
T had to jump in. There's like thirty three black
tip sharks down there. So I put on these big
diving finins masks and I jump in the water. I
look down and there's like thirty these massive blackfin sharks
are black tip sharks, that's the shit, but anither way
below me, and then I see one I kind of
kind of surfing up looking at me getting closer. I'm like,
I'm gonna go kind of back towards the boat, and
then I look a get it closer. So then I'm
like kicking my legs as hard as i can because
I'm scared and these fins. I didn't realize what the
dive fins. That faster you kick, the slower you go.
And I look at the sharks right behind me. I
get to the boat and it bumps me and I
just let on the scream. The boy got ran and
got me to go. What happened? I got tacked my shark.
Speaker 4: They also a laughing. They're like, dude, that shark just
bumped you.
Speaker 3: There's some big bully bumpsh at a bar means he
wants to fight a lot of times.
Speaker 1: Wow, I thought I've been in a shark attack.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, So you do any like cage
dive in with the Great Whites or anything.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: I mean it's like when we were out in Bigfoot,
like I don't really have time.
Speaker 1: I guess you know, when we go big on the
Nine Investcations, I'd be out there with you.
Speaker 4: But like on these shows, like you only have so
much auction.
Speaker 1: On your dive times and like your windows to get
the sharks with the weather and everything was so quick
that we didn't have time really to do anything but
just like get the get their cast in there, give
what we did to get you know, then you have
to go into there and like did the comps never work?
Speaker 4: You have to go back down and do it again
with comms.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I never got in there.
Speaker 3: How much of that footage is it? Like ad R Like,
how much is that?
Speaker 1: How much?
Speaker 3: Like whatever? I listen whenever I watch The Dark Show,
any show where they're diving like sharks, I imagine all
the dialogue almost always is done after I would say.
Speaker 1: About eighty percent of it is. Yeah, because what happens
is I forgot what those comps are called, but the
masks have have you could talk to each other and it's.
Speaker 4: Someone on deck, but they never work, ever, ever work.
Speaker 1: And if they do, it sounds like, you know, you
talked to someone in the space station, like so then
we kind of know what they were saying, and it's
not so much made up.
Speaker 4: Again, we're just recreating what was said that wasn't recorded.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's funny. I should send you guys a picture
when you do record again. When you do the ADR,
what you do is you like you have to have
the mask on the person and you drop the transmitter
into a bucket of water. So you're sitting in a
hotel room and you have to read the lines with
a wearing a scuba mask. I have a picture of
one of our host's doing it. Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2: He has sent it to us, so we'll give it
to Matt Pruitt, who's not here today. He's off I
think he's in the woods or something. I don't know
what he's doing, but he will post sit on our
members section for the members, so they check that out.
Speaker 1: Out of the New Zealand. I remember this where the
New Zealand and I had my friend Tom the Blowfish heard.
He's this big British dude with a breaded beard. He
was the host of the last show I did, called
All the Sharks. But he's just sitting in there doing
his pickup lines. And I'm pretty sure I took a
picture because I think a parrot was in the background. Apparently.
Speaker 2: What are the commonalities I guess between doing a Bigfoot
show and doing a shark show? And I guess the
second half is like, what are the differences? That's probably
more fun.
Speaker 1: It's not a ton because it's just so, but Bigfoot
it's just about going to the right areas, you know,
making sure we have the right witnesses and making sure
we have the people. With Bigfoot is there's way more
about making sure we had people to talk to. Its
stories that fall up one with sharks, it's all about
you know, being on a boat. Being it's such a
different world like when you're when you're because it's like
everything's harder on a boat, you know, getting a gear
on weather, you know, then going out to an area,
then you know, hoping that sharks are in that area.
Speaker 4: I mean, because there's a lot of times we would
chum all day and.
Speaker 1: We wouldn't see anything, So I mean it's I mean,
it's like, dude, I guess similar. Its like doing a
night investigation where we got skuked sharks and bigfoots.
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Speaker 3: What I always say, like, I'm not talking about you,
but I always say that people is the thing about
like with Bigfoot, is like with Great Whites and other
tire sharks whatever is that One common common audition of
those two shows would be, you're just spelling this about
a wanton killer, like some randomized killer that just attacks
whatever it sees.
Speaker 1: Like That's so true, Bulbs, because that's a good point
because I also think of them that geo sharks shows,
and they're like the shows are always called say like
like I survived a shark attack or things like that
that they like those delicious titles, and to get actual
shark experts on to talk about it was nearly impossible
because they're like, no, I don't. I don't like what
you guys are doing. I don't. It's sharks are not killers.
Sharks like they don't care about people, like they always say,
if sharks had hands, there'd be no shark attacks because
they use their mouth to feel. They're not out there
to kill you. The times they do bite people, they're
just like, see what it.
Speaker 3: Is, rarely attack people to eat, because there's so.
Speaker 1: Rare that the teche people again like it's they're just feeling you.
But the problem is they have a giant mouthful of
sharp teeth. But yeah, I know, Like so I had
a really hard time getting like expert on it because
they're just like, no, I'm not going to perpetuate a
myth of this, you know, mindleus killer because that's not
what sharks are. And again with bigfoot, I think a
lot of people have definitely like, you know, like misconceptions
about the creature.
Speaker 2: Well, like, what what are your thoughts because you're kind
of a civilian in a way. I mean, you're not
exactly you're not a research or anything like that, but boy,
you've been you know, baptized by fire.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I don't know, I kind of feel
like you know, like, there's so many different averages with
Bigfoot that there's ways that you know, you have people
who think, you know, it's a sort of a spirit animal.
You have people who think they get travel wormholes and
things like that. I mean, I think, you know, it's
more if it's anything, it's it's you know, just some
sort of North American ape.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you think soundsquatches are real before he came on?
Or this is not something you thought about at all?
Speaker 1: No, I did not think they're Well, I grew up
inn Oregon, so it's definitely part of our culture here,
and I had friends whose parents saw bigfoots in high
school and we made fun of them relentlessly.
Speaker 2: Oh, I imagine you could be a real asshole when
you want to be. But at some point or another
that that tune changed. I think when was that Maybe
New York when you and I and Bobo were out
or something we heard that thing, or.
Speaker 1: Probably you know, there might have been one specific time.
But to me that this is always what I tell people.
But to me, what actually made me believe the most
is the witnesses, because again, we heard were instead we saw,
but I never saw anything with my eyes. So but
what I did see and talked to was like, you know,
remember that guy Tim, the sheriff in Kentucky, Like that
guy was he shot true? Like and he's like, I
saw from this far. We talked to a secret service
agent who can't lie, and he saw it from face
to face. We saw it. We talked to a judge
one time, and these are old people who could only
by telling their story did only hurt their careers.
Speaker 4: So they're not gaining anything by it.
Speaker 1: One about those vocals.
Speaker 3: We heard in the first organ expedition.
Speaker 4: You know those are all cool, right but great, But
I didn't We don't be able to see it.
Speaker 1: You'd always have.
Speaker 2: Self doubt, right, the casts had very little self doubt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you think had self doubt? Come on, I say,
but the witnesses who like some of the witnesses I
still to this day, don't believe other ones I think
maybe were crazy. But there's certain sermons that we all know.
They're like this guy like Bob Bob Gimman. You know
you have those kind of witnesses that you're like, I
can't argue with this person. He's here's a tried, true
person who saw what they saw and like if they
saw that, I have to believe it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like it, Yeah exactly, like if these
people didn't see.
Speaker 1: But we heard some really crazy things. I mean the
craziest thing that to me that we ever got encountered
was in Tennessee with two tree pushovers in two different nights.
Speaker 3: One then we went back, we got one, and then
we went back to couple ed so we got another
treet pushover.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's three of the pig callers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, who thought of that idea?
Speaker 1: Both of them thought by me, but some of them
were God money Maker used to hate my ideas. Oh yeah,
but like I love them either, but like that was
the network mandate, like I do have time. They were
just like ridiculous, but who cares. Yeah, we got people.
I know it.
Speaker 2: As a cast member, I got a lot of hate
for some of those ideas, man, Just like I was.
Speaker 1: Still somebody about one of the ideas the other day
as I was hanging out with shot Man two that
was with him last two weeks ago, and we were
talking about like one of the first things we ever
did was the grid search in North Carolina. That was
the first episode we ever shot. I know aired second,
but like that kind of made sense. I know you
guys are a little upset about it at first because
you know you can be trampling on evidence. But then
the best one was I believe I don't want to
like I don't want to name names here, but someone
above me, I want to do a night grid search
with people walking through the woods at night looking for
I'm like, where are we supposed to find at night?
That sounds like a.
Speaker 2: Uh the fifth that could be, could could not be?
Speaker 1: Who knows? He won?
Speaker 3: Remember I really brought that up. When they brought that up,
I was like, we're screwing No, we're not. Like we've
like I've traveled evidence at night, like knowing there's supposed
to be like that one walked around somewhere like I've
gone there to night and looked, and I'm like, would
I do that for the next day? I see my
flip prints, but you know where they could have possibly walked.
Speaker 1: Well, imagine then you have like forty people out there
who don't know what.
Speaker 3: They're doing, or three hundred like Tennessee search.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you weren't on that Tennessee one, but that's the
one that we actually had a Tim Burchett out there
with us on that one.
Speaker 1: I was there, Oh, what are you on that one? Okay,
I didn't think you made that one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's when you guys got the key to the
key to Tennessee or.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got the key to Knoxville and I got that.
We got those We got those business cards from the
county sheriff saying if you get pulled over, like you
guys are cruise around at night, just giving this card
and telling the collars you have any problems. I was like, yes, you.
Speaker 1: Guys. Remember when we were we were leaving, I was
say Connecticut, maybe Kenning, Rhode Island, and we were going
to we were leaving, we were flying. I think we
might even fly home. We've been on the read a
long time. And we were driving back to Boston and
we're going way too fast and we get pulled over
and I don't think the cop realizes like when we're driving,
we're in a caravan, like three to four cars. So
we all pulled over. The cop pulls up and Matt
gets out of the car like, Matt get back at
the car. I'm like, what's money maker going to do
to ruin this? And the guy goes, hey, I know
you because we were going like ninety and sixty five
because we were so late to the airport and actually work.
Matt talked to guys and he goes off, and I
was like, there's no way that ever happens again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he has a tremendous amount of luck in
his back pocket. See, you never know what's going to
happen with him. You know, it could go either way
pretty quick. I think I think you got that one
mixed up, Handell. That was I think the one when
we got pulled over. That when we were like in
three or four cars in a convoy. That's when the
guy walked up and goes, he looks. He goes, you're
the big foot guy.
Speaker 3: And I said, I didn't give Merritt badgers for you know,
policemen pulling over cars at night ers. I called them
boy scouts. He looked like he was nineteen.
Speaker 1: I remember that. I remember this one because we were
Natalie was now that you you Stone was driving the
front and she was going, I mean, we were going
way too fast.
Speaker 3: We got pulled over a couple of times, were going
but you know, I think we got pulled over twice
out of all this speeding. We did late at night
all over the country for years and years. We never
got pulled over almost ever, Like for how much fast
driving we did, it was nuts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, a money maker is a legendary
fast driver. Like he just drives fast, and when he
gets frustrated, he drives a little faster. Some of my
favorite memories were being in a castcar because eventually at
some point we were sequestered to the castcar so we
didn't have to you guys didn't have to interact with
us because we were a pain in the ass. And
so like we're in our own little car and you
have to deal with each other. And then that would
get frustrated about something, and we were driving in a
caravan and he would be like third or some second
third or whatever in the caravan. He'd get frustrated about
the driving and then past the person who's leading the caravan,
only to realize that he doesn't know where we're going.
Speaker 1: Not quite often. So I love that stuff, man, love it.
I was thinking about the other day, and this is
back to bigfoot evidence more of that. We were in
Fresno and we had that big I guess it's almost
like a fire horn or air rates, and I don't
even know if we started recording yet, but I heard it,
but it sounded like fireworks, and I didn't know what
it was. And then like I think we all were
kind of like taking it back. But then I remember
later when I was in Tennessee, it sounded the same.
So I think, you know, we had a tree pushover
right before we even even started shooting. Could be true,
could be true. That brought it up, like he's like,
that's a tree. I go, no, that's that wasn't what
I go. I don't know what that was. But he
was mad that Bobo did the air raids side before
we started, because and Bob were like, no, we got
to get this thing going, got to get the party started.
I was wrong, not even wrong. We actually, you know what,
thinking back about it, we might have been rolling him.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing that sucked the most about Bigfoot.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like you'd be out of the night
investigation doing them like five in the morning, and you know,
like obviously when you watch TV, it looks like five minutes,
but it's just hours and hours, and then never really
our cameras go down and we'd be changing cards or
whatever and that's where you'd hear it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, it's Murphy's law.
Speaker 4: We remember so that last the last episode we did,
the reunion show.
Speaker 3: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: I was with you, Bobo, because if were you there
when when we heard that big grol I don't remember that.
I know Bobo's there. Oh no, that one of the
the the one of the guys, and we were there
and literally the cameras just went down. The only good
thing is is Graham's the audio guy, had the audio
still rolling on his on his on his mixer, but
all the.
Speaker 4: Cameras were down at that moment because we were changing
out and like it was close.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was super close.
Speaker 2: That's one of the frustrating things about doing bigfoot stuff
on television is that if it's and I didn't get
it at first, but obviously, like you know, a few
years of TV, it teaches you something. If it didn't
happen on camera, it didn't happen. And I always found
that to be so frustrating because some much great stuff
did happen off camera.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's times when we had to we
had to play it off camera.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just you know how it is. It's
like if you try to fake it later, it just
looks bad and it kind of ruins your credibility.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So you've worked on a lot of
different shows, and what was different about our show I
think than say, I don't know, the Sharks show or
a paranormal show or any of these other things that
you're done.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, I mean so the Shark show again, those
are those shark shows I did, the Shark weeks. Those
are kind of a nominate to themselves just because it's
just you're out in the middle of the ocean all
around the world. So that's cool. But I would say
for Finding Bigfoot, in comparison to all of the shows
I'm talking like treasure hunting shows up in those, I've
big ghost shows, I've been alien shows, fighty Bigfoot was
the most real show I've ever done, like, and I'm
talking about even like house reality shows, Like we faked
way more in house reality shows. We really didn't fake anything,
you know, like, yeah, sometimes we had you guys say
things or like again, that's the camera down and we
heard something and it was we maybe had you guys
do a head turn to get a reaction shot. But
on a whole you know, everything we did was extremely real, like,
you know, like we had witnesses pre pre picked just
so we knew we had enough.
Speaker 4: But you guys made their own choice after town hall.
Speaker 1: A lot of times we had to tell those people
that we talked beforehand, hey, I'm sorry they decided to
go to somebody else, because we might at town hall,
we might get a news story and it might be frashing,
it might be even it might have other evidence that's
better than the one person that we sort of pre selected,
and so like we always had to be ready to
shift and pivot on a dime. And like, and the
final place that we would go to do a Finnit investigation,
obviously we have to have permits, but we'd permit the
whole area and then you guys would pick that area.
It wasn't like it was like, hey, here's where we're going.
A lot of times, you know, like the cast doesn't
drive the engine. But on this show, like i mean, obviously,
because we all trust each other, there's a lot of
work together. But it was there wasn't any sort of
trickery and hoaxing and the you know, and then like
the people we talked to were real, and like the
decisions that you guys made to go areas were real.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bogo.
Will be right back after these messages, it seems like
I've done a little TV afterwards, and not nearly as
much as of course you have. You know, this is
your was your life for a long time. Yeah, but
it seems to me that finding Bigfoot was the One
thing that stands out is that the cast did have
so much control over And I think it's mostly because
we were stubborn assholes, Like but I can't imagine most
other TV shows letting the cast derail everything mid episode
and change and go to a different location or change
different witnesses, And it's like, I think that's relatively unheard of.
Speaker 1: But I think that's also why the show worked and
last as long as it did, because people, well, you know,
like I think I told you it's pretty early on
that you guys, or the reason that people come back,
you know, like it, like, well, bigfoots the through line
people like following you guys, but it's your guys' authentic
belief and you guys like doing like really wanted to
go to you know, like areas that you agreed with
and then you know, like disagree with each other and
you know, like arguing your points and you know it's
not like I'm I can't really talk about other big potows.
I haven't watched each other, but I mean the little
clips I've seen every all the like discussions seemed very
manufactured to me, like very like produced.
Speaker 2: Right Whereas that you got four people on finding Bigfoot.
Even if you did tell us what to do, we
probably wouldn't.
Speaker 1: All other dudes is want to give you some tent poles.
I'm like, Eric, could you say this, this and this
and let you guys say and then sometimes you would
just say no, and then I'm like okay again, like
we got I mean, season one, I think we all
agree was very hard. You guys didn't know me, I
didn't know you, and I didn't know anything about bigfoots.
You guys didn't know anything about TV, and it took,
you know a while to earn that trust. And then
and you get to an area where we were able
to go like, you know, I'm not gonna screw you over,
and then you know I need your help. And also
we all became good friends, so it became much easier
to sort of do It's still never easy, but much
easier to sort of understand where you guys are coming from,
and you guys understand what I needed one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: So what about these ghost shows that you did? I
don't want to of course, I don't want any names
or anything like that or these shows that you might
have done, But it makes sense that you would do
a bigfoot show than like other producers that say, oh, well,
we've got this other paranormal show, not realizing that sasquatches
are paranormal, and I'm like, of course you did that,
therefore you should do this. What are the big differences there? Like,
I mean, was it I don't even know what shows
they were, Like, was it a ghost show where you're
in one house all night long? Or no?
Speaker 1: I did I did a couple of ghost shows. I
don't want to name it because I'm going to trash
it right now. No, of course, but like it was
one that each episode we went to a different town
and sort of followed a story about you know why
these Like it wasn't just a house, it was like
why this area sort of was haunted? And I just
found I had a hard time. A lot of with
the ghost people. I found a lot of them were
we're con artists and you know, we're very especially the
people who were like were were psychics and mediums. I'm
not saying that those don't exist. I'm saying the people
I worked with because like you know that they they
were just praying on people's like emotions and they're like, oh,
this is what they're saying, and this is what they're
and I just I just found it the hardest wallow.
And also, you know, like a bigfoot. You know, you're out,
you can see animals, you can see a big foot.
Like when you're in a ghost place, you're just like
you're running around a barn. You know, you're like cool
at a barn. It's three in the morning in Michigan. Yeah,
Although there was one thing that happened those super weird
we were into the sea and there's the thing called
spirit box. It's basically a radio that goes through all
the diffrenuencies constantly and like you'll hear like words pop
up when it hits some sort of radio tone I guess,
or a radio wave. And the thought is that ghosts
can speak through it and we're down stairs at this
place and the host takes some ticket cards, pulls one out,
puts something ground and he goes, tell me what card
did I just put on the ground, And all of
a sudden and like a minute, my body goes eight.
And I said, did I say eight? And the guy
pulls up the card. It was eight, they said, Chad.
And our friend Andy Bartlett goes, I'm out of here.
And he's got up and left the house and do
the rest from that because he has a wireless so
he did from outside the house. That's great, that's weird.
Speaker 2: Bobo and I went on a ghost tour on the
Queen Mary or something and somebody had a spirit box
and that's when I first learned I don't believe in
those at all, because we're in the Queen Mary and this,
you know, supposedly from the late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds,
and and one of the one of the words that
came up on the ghost box whatever it was, SoundCloud.
Speaker 1: I said, wait a minute, wait a minute. And one
thing they have on here, you remember the old Nintendo wheeze.
Oh yeah, yeah, So there was a thing on there
is going to connect to something and that watches you
you and like it can mimic like your avatar on screen.
So they take those out and I guess you know,
it makes a little stick figure on your different joints.
But so like ghost hunters will take it out and
this aiming at things, and all of a sudden, a
stick figure will appear somewhere and that's a ghost and
they would jump around there everywhere, and it was so like,
you know, like it's just picking up on a point,
like what what's the what's the rationale that it could
it could all of a sudden, a thing that Nintendo
bought is just seeing a ghosts with its and it
can actually pinpoint its joints.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, there's a lot of silly things out there,
things that at least seem silly on the surface. I'm
sure ghost nerds love it, you know, when they're totally
into it and probably believe it and all that kind
of stuff. And and I don't know anything. I'm just
a big foot guy. So no hate mail to me.
Send it all to Matt Prue, a big foot beyond podcasts.
Speaker 3: His fault.
Speaker 1: Have you guys got any like I ask you some questions? Yeah?
Is there been any good, cool bigfoot stories Like so,
I'm kind of out of the loop these days. There
wasn't there a big one recently that like a whole
family of people were seeing something.
Speaker 2: There's lots of signings stuff going on, and the one
in Ohio, Bob.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm not sure everyone's convinced I was all
was cracked up? Do you I think Cliff looked at
it a little more than I did.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well, that Ohio flap, you know, apparently when
it came down to a lot of the witnesses were
never vetted. They just said they saw something and it
was no follow up and the initial I got it
from a bfr O source that the initial witness was
a fifteen year old whose story might have changed a bit.
I mean, but they're fifteen, you know, so that's that's allowed.
I guess, you know, you can't scream liar in point
or whatever. So that was a little ambiguous. And some
other stuff has happened since then in that general area.
When I say general area, I mean like eastern Ohio.
I mean that's a huge area. It doesn't know it
was connected to it, called police.
Speaker 4: I don't know, so they say, I would I thought
I read on the news.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, that's just it. It did get on
the news, but just because it's on the media doesn't
make it true either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, but there was a siding over there.
Speaker 2: I followed up on a siding just a couple of
weeks ago over there by just just north of Carson, Washington,
over there in Comedia County. Somebody saw one on the
side of the road over there, and I went and
I went there, like I couldn't get there for like
a week. But that's okay because the exact location wasn't
even available for a week. I went over there and
checked that out. There's been a couple of things coming
into the NABC, but we've talked about some of that
stuff on the podcast.
Speaker 1: What was your favorite international place? Eh?
Speaker 3: People always ask me that one, and I gotta say
they were all awesome. I think my least favorite was
probably Brazil. You know, it was cool, but it wasn't
as cool as the other places. And hearing that year
there we heard that YETI and Nepal that was insane.
That was awesome, And Australia was insane. I got they
had multiple I mean for sure, Australia is the most
action I got out there. But Vietnam was so rad,
so cool. China was once we get out of the
city's Chinese country, I was absolutely beautiful. In Australia was
just Australia. I mean, I'll show it's so like home,
you know in a lot of ways. It was still
a lot different, but it was when you got down,
did you run? Did you remind people that you knew
the cool and got a chicken fight champion in twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: I told one person they didn't remember you.
Speaker 3: That was awesome.
Speaker 1: It was fun just to be there, but sucked for
big Foot. He was England.
Speaker 3: Oh I forgot about that. Yeah, that was that was
kind of well. I Meanaii, England and Hawaii were kind
of the same for me, Like I knew we were
going to find anything in England. I had a little
glimmer of hope, you know, just because I heard some
things before you going over there, But I forget that.
I'm like, there's no way. But I mean Hawaii that was.
That was awesome. But there was that was a total
like jump in the Shark episode.
Speaker 1: That was like the Brady Bunch going to Hawaii.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, if you ever watched always say
that you ever watched that Pretty Bunch Goes with Hawaii
again watching Greg Brady, who doing Greg Brady eats it.
He's going backside over like dry reef and he falls
face first off the reef. It's like such a gnarly
white out.
Speaker 1: So if I was asking Bobo favorite internationals place to be,
went and shot it Australia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, honestly Australia because it was easy as
opposed to Samatra or somewhere like that. Yeah, yeah, I could.
And you know, and you've been to Australia since since
I've been there, of course. But when we were in
those that that zone there, it was like San Diego
if San Diego had one third the number of people.
And it was gorgeous. The beaches were awesome, the weather
was awesome. And half hour drive inland and you're in
Bigfoot Territory.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well that's where I lived, Cliff, when I went back. Yeah,
I did move back States after. You know, I lived
a rift for the last year and I lived right
where we where we were at in Burley Head, Yeah, Burleyhead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, remember when we put the tracker on the Kangaroo.
Speaker 1: Yes, I lived next door to that. Oh wow, that
was a cool place.
Speaker 3: That was bitch.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean it's it's it's it's still a
lot like it's still a cool beach community, and but
it has definitely exploded.
Speaker 2: Well, you have a different take on a lot of
different a lot of the episodes because you were the
hardest working guy in the show.
Speaker 1: I mean, we we showed up.
Speaker 2: You're like, you're literally in charge of the show and
you're walking around picking up trash and trash bags and
putting out crafty and getting cards and running back to
the car for batteries and stuffing.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's just say, like maybe our crew wasn't
the best shape crew, so someone had me run and like,
I'm in decent shape, so I would have to be
running between the two crews.
Speaker 2: Hey, man, Like you can't say they're not in good shape.
Rounds a good shape.
Speaker 1: It is a shape, you know. I always assumed I
was gonna die on finding Bigfoot because like, let's say
we're up in the Redwoods or something, and I'd be
with one team and that team to be like, hey,
we're out of batteries or out of cars and I'd
have to like run between the two of us, and
we might be a mile apart. And you know, I'm
in winter gear and or the backpack on running, and
even though I'm in decent shape, I'm still a dozen
times that's in my late thirties, I get winded and
I started looking like I started looking like a prey animal.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I know, if Cougar's gonna come here attack me,
this is how I die.
Speaker 2: You know, the entire time I was on finding Bigfoot
with you, with all those years and seeing all the
things that you did in the antics and the and
the situations, I was confident you were going to die
on finding Bigfoot as well, no doubt in my mind,
from the very first time I saw you and Bobo's
square off on that on that dock in Alaska where
he almost punched you, and three in the water too,
when you went to the hospital for at least one time,
maybe twice for poison oak.
Speaker 1: I went two times for poison oak.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you. Anybody would have bet
that fighting Bigfoot would have been your demise period.
Speaker 1: I would love, like Bobo probably can throw a great punch,
but no one can take a punch to the face
like I can. I'm the best.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo.
Will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, uh. I also kind of broke my leg
on finding big Foot. I cracked my shin and there's
a there's a fracture in it, and I didn't really
tell me people about it. When we were doing the
it was Bob Gimlin. What's that place called bluff? Yeah,
the bluff keep Creek up. So I was we were
hiking down there, you know, because we ticked the horses,
and then we had a hike into there and I
was standing on a on a log looking to see
where all the crew is at and the log broke
and my legs swung around and kicked a tree and
I immediately knew I've cracked it.
Speaker 4: And then you know, it was it was like a
hairline fracture. I couldn't bitch about it, so, you know,
I just had a limp out of it.
Speaker 1: There was a three hour hike out of there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a long run in there. Yeah, and
that was at the beginning.
Speaker 1: Has that has that healed? Ah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but there's still like you can see the line
on my leg is still still lying there.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you have physical and emotional scars from finding big.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, I mean I think everyone
got like remember when Adam Fostero with our camera guys,
as you guys know, using the fleers. You're looking at
that at night and then you look up and all
you blindness, you can't see anything. And Adam was, you know,
he's a shooter and he's looking down and he walked
at a tree branch goes into his eye and misses
his eyeball, but it actually inserts itself in all the
way into the eyeball, like he goes inside the socket.
Speaker 2: Yes, probably far one of the most dangerous things about
walking around in the woods at night. It's poking your
eye out.
Speaker 1: And then also in Vietnam, was doing something, stepped and
fell into a.
Speaker 3: He just disappeared, took one step and he was gone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cliff, when we went up in the Paul Bubbo,
your leg was hurt. So you stayed down that day.
But we all went up down the hill and it
started raining. Oh yeah, and we got stuck up there
and I remember we were doing something and we were
doing a scene work, and all of a sudden, I
was sitting on some ground and the ground just just
gave way and I just went And then I was like, well,
here's how I go fly down. I mean I didn't
go very far, but like twenty feet.
Speaker 2: You know, Fosky falling into that rice paddy. You know,
that reminds me of I was camping in the Vietnam
episode the Lisa and I went camping together and we
had like, you know, porters, and you know, we had
a team of like four or five people making sure
that we're not going to die out there basically. And
one of them in our translator. I can't remember her name,
but she was a younger woman in probably late twenties,
early thirties or something.
Speaker 1: She was great.
Speaker 2: She was great, and she we absolutely needed her because
the other guys didn't really speak English so much. That
was a great time. But she told me that there's
a difference between forest leeches and rice patty leeches, because
there's leeches everywhere. I had no idea how prevalent, how
ubiquitous leeches were pretty much everywhere else in the world.
But and she goes, well, and I was complaining about
leeches and how I don't like them and all that
kind of stuff. She goes, oh, forest leeches aren't bad,
and I go, well, I don't like them. I said,
you know what's bad. She goes, Rice patty leeches. I said, well,
what's the difference, And she didn't. She had broken English.
Like as I'm saying what she said. She wasn't that
that clean and smooth with her English, you know, because
she's bilingual and that's totally respectable and stuff. And then
she goes, well, forest leeches and this is how she
said it. Okay, I'm not making fun of her at all. Shees,
forrest leeches get on you and bite Rice Patty. Leeches
crawl up leg and how you say, go in asshole. Yeah,
that's exactly how you say that. And apparently they live
in your intestines and it's just something that you got
to get used to at some point.
Speaker 3: And actually I.
Speaker 1: Had a leech. I remember we got home. I got
you must have been like six in the morning. We
got home, and I didn't because in the stations we
always do ticks checks. When we were done with the
nine investigation, I didn'tven think about it. I get into
bed and like some of it on my leg and
I feel it and it's a leech and I pull off.
And then my girlfriend at the time had flown out
there to uh just to have her Australian vacation while
we worked. And the next one she woke up and
there's blood all over the beds. Because I mean, I
tried be as quite as possible, but like I forgot,
Like we take them off, you just keep bleeding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had that anti coagulant in their spit, I guess,
And so you.
Speaker 1: We had the leaches.
Speaker 4: Obviously to Paul when we all, Bobo especially had to
deal with them.
Speaker 3: Out of eleven leeches on my head when I woke up, this.
Speaker 1: Leech on your head, I've ever seen that thing.
Speaker 3: It was as big as my thumb. Yeah, it looked
like when I when I popped, it looked like like
I popped a ketchup packet. Like it was just blood
ever sported everywhere. It was so massive. You heard that
yety in the calling of when the when the Shippers
ran off. That was pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: You gotta yeah, so Bobo and Paul, I was just
because I kind of that point was sort of transitioning
into be more of just back just prepping episodes and
and editing episodes after China, which we had a little
bit of an incident. From that point on, for all
international episodes I came out with, I mean I came
out with the majority of episodes we did anyways, but
not all of them. But so then I came back
out for Nepaul, but I had you know, Steve Carroll
was in there and he was doing more than directing.
So during that time I took Bobo Bobo and I
went out and did this little camping with our Shirpa
Lukla and yeah, I mean we saw we also found
a bear print, which is pretty cool. Yeah, and I
mean it was definitely a bare print. And then yeah,
we were Bobo and luke Lai are singing and dancing
and we hear a yunie call in the background.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because those other shirpers were coming with our supplies
and they heard it. When they heard it they were
coming into camp, they took off and ran hither way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, it was.
Speaker 3: It was exactly what the monks described with other older
villagers have heard them, like they all did that same
call and we heard that thinks about that canaon there's
absolutely no human beings down there like Himalayas. I mean,
it's way down this crazy canyonate. We listened to vocalize
three times come up the hill. Then the all time
heaviest down like cloud burst, like downpour any of us
ever experienced opened up. As soon as it got right
up to us. It was one hundred yards vocalized and
all a sudden, the skies literally opened. They ran fifteen
inches and five hours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I had a cup for something outside
the sad about tent and I caught up. It was full.
It was completely full, like getting like a six inch cup.
I mean it was when you guys also remember the
the monk, and we had the We had the monks
with us for the final night investigating. They're gonna do
it some chance, you know. But then those other guys
from the village came up and they wanted to kill
us because they believed that we bought brought like bad spirits,
and we were the ones who brought the storm that
washed the road out. Is that storm was crazy.
Speaker 3: Wasn't a d it was a footpath.
Speaker 1: And then the booze monks were trying to fight, and
I was like, what and I was just trying to
get us the crew and out of the way. I'm like,
does this move away?
Speaker 3: Like that?
Speaker 1: Does people deal with and money Maker wanted to be
like somehow be involved in them, Like, but Matt, you
don't know what they're saying.
Speaker 3: You had his treking poles. I took one of those
polls from him, so I got a weapon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, found we found out later when the guys had
a handmade gun on him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that could have gone real sideways because it wasn't
the first time a gun's been pulled on us on
that show.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, there's been shooters nearby. I mean I
think it was in Kentucky or one of those states.
Said they were raccoon hunting nearby when we're out there
doing night investigations, and.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, we were in Bobo's area. We were in
the Bluff Creek.
Speaker 1: One is that last night when we had the helicopter
and it was me I think it's Bobo and Matt
and I and we were doing the house that someone
came out of the house and I heard the shotgun pumped,
you know, like the action of the shot capt Pumped'm like,
let's get out of here. It's time to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, helicopters flying over and you know Humboldt County before
weed was made legal in California is a dangerous, dangerous job.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, then that point we landed and we were out
doing like you know, calls and stuff, and I think
that also pised some people off.
Speaker 3: We got we got shot. I remember that that gunshot.
That dude came out of his house and shot his rifle.
We were hiding on the road, hiding out when cars
went by, I remember, and then that guy fired up
and he didn't try to hit us. He just fired
up there there where we were. And then we were
in the helicopter. I remember at one point that you
were turned around filming us or something. Yeah, I was
looking out and he turned out. He went through on
the spotlight to see where he was, and there was
a couple of dudes came out with rifles and one
of the guys was pointing it out the helicopter. He
just like pulled the stick away and like we just
veer it off. And that was pretty nuts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I know we talked to some people the
next day. They're like, oh, yeah, good, there are a
lot of people out there. That have rifles trained on
the helicopter because they thought they thought we were you know,
DA or something. Yeah, we have that whole episode because
you know, again we have a caravan of cars and
a black car as a U hole that has all
of our gear in it. And from what I've learned
later and Bobby, you guys know that already do is
that's what when they do drug raids they could they
show up in black as SUVs and then they have
a truck to pull all the plants out of there.
And so we were driving to a spot and I'm
sure you guys remember this. By car is passing us
on the right just because they think we're doing And
then the lady blocked the driveway that she thought we
were going to like to raise her farm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there was another time, maybe in Tennessee. I
can't remember where, maybe Chad, I think you were there.
The lady came out, well not not the witch.
Speaker 3: We pulled up on a driveway in the daylight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was sort of hag you know like that
she came out of she had I remember this one.
Speaker 1: And again, like my belief in paranormal was very shaky,
but this lake came out and she had black eyes.
Speaker 4: That's all I remember. And I'm like, guys, go go
get out of here.
Speaker 3: That's something I'm talking about about one. I'm talking about
the one clips about where she had a forty four bag.
There you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she had sort of on that one. That was
Eric Weiningery. He told me about it. Yeah, but go ahead,
it's so sorry.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we just rolled up in some driveway and
like the turnaround or something like that, and somebody came
out with a handgun. It looked like some sort of
glock or something like that. I don't know what it was,
but it was a.
Speaker 3: Forty four bag or a forty one mag It was
a big revolver, Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was in the back seat.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: All I know is like I just started saying, he's
got a gun, got a gun. Guns to get out
of here, Get out.
Speaker 1: Of here, and like it was a pretty stressful moment.
I guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cliff got really nervous on that one. I'm like,
she's not gonna shoot us in broad day light, but
she looked like she might have actually.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, And then we had the guys in
Louisiana and who were hoaxing us like they were obviously
like this. The the younger guys that they knew were
they knew, they found out what area there, and they
started coming out and hoped and and Matt got but
then I got really mad. He wasn't go. He wanted
to go talk to them. I'm like, man, here they
have baseball bats. We hear the beating trees. Like I
remember was going like that, you're gonna get hurt here that.
I was like, What's what's my responsibility here? And I'm like,
I guess I gotta get beat up too. So I'm like,
let's go mad. I'm like, I'm just trying to talk
about it. But I also know I can't let him
go by himself.
Speaker 3: I was telling he's an idiot, but I was telling him, like, dude,
let him go, Like like, if you go, then I
have to go.
Speaker 2: So like.
Speaker 3: Twenty guys with baseball bats, drunk hillbillies in the woods?
Speaker 2: How many times do you think that happened that over
the course of our shows that are our location was infiltrated?
Speaker 1: See that that was the main one I know of.
Speaker 4: Obviously a lot of people like we kept, you know,
we kept very under wraps where we were going.
Speaker 2: I remember in Minnesota we had to move because somebody
was out there. I think it was the same night
that that producer got fired for from a Rock on
the ground.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that. Actually, that Minnesota one was kind
of funny episode too. The very first night we went out,
that was the first time I've ever heard a wolf. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, and then our camera guy we got quit and
he's like, I'm not going out there.
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, that's like five miles away and it's
a wolf and there's six of us, Like, when do
you think's gonna happen? But then try to think any
other episodes I can think that I know, or I
mean sometimes I don't think it was on purpose, you know,
Like I know in Colorado, we were somewhere and we're like,
we're seeing something, like what is that? And then it
just happened to be campers. It wasn't like they were
they came out to do anything, but their lights were on,
and I think we thought it could be like I
don't know what we thought, but we just I remember
that point. I'm like, hey, let's let's you get out
of here. There's obviously people here. Oh, Indiana, Remember we
set up the dummy camp. Then we did that, but
then we were like what is that? There's people right there.
So then we had to go and move and like
we had like that was like we were husting and
we're moving it right as fast as we can to
get a to a different canyon because we had the
mannequins and everything. And so I'm like running and I
come across the corner and at the midt of a ground,
I see a guy kneeling, just just sitting by himself,
kneeling with his head to the to the ground, and
I'm like, this is a cult thing. I'm dead, Like
this is something I just ran into some sort of
weird cult. It was Tyler Bounds as a deer jumped
out of nowhere and side this like t boat. He
was hurt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and of course you're carrying a mannequin.
Speaker 1: He probably saw me. He was like, oh, what the heck?
Speaker 2: Well, I love that because we had the camp set up,
and then hikers walked by. We had an entire camp
set up with mannequins and like in coolers and a
tent and a fed of fire going, and and then
hikers come by and see a fully fledged tent or
like a whole camp with mannequins.
Speaker 1: We had a freak a bunch of people out with
the cap we did because I mean, I know we've
already told this story the last time, but like when
we were in Connecticut and we had all the we
would do the thing with the with the toes. Oh,
Rhode Island, wasn't it land? Yeah, we're doing with the
torches and there's a group of like eighty years who
were lost and they see us and they see the
torches and they go, oh no, he just turned around
and drove off. And then yeah, those guys, I mean,
how weird it be just walked by a camp full
of a mannequins and everything.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bogo.
Will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 1: Different there's a different show I was talking about, like
you know, coming across. I used to be a writer
on the show called Scare Tactics. It was a prank
show where you know, we put people in like these
like almost a horror film scared things. But we had
us up a new policy because a lot of times
people get so skipped they'd run. So we were doing
this kind of a cult thing and what we call
the marks. The person who was on, who was being
the victim, took off running and then we go we
tried to running and grabbed up it before they you know,
go too far, hurt themselves, and so a bunch of us, right,
And so the person looks back and sees like twelve
people chasing them. You can see, I'm more scared, runs
into a walkers, jumps behind the counter and hides through
at a new policy, if someone runs, only one person chases,
because I can't if I already think someone's gonna kill me,
and I look back and they yeah, twelve people chasing
after me.
Speaker 2: It's the So at the end of the day, the
funny Bigfoot show kind of went off the air because
the streaming became popular. I think, if I understand things,
of course, you know, like we I think, you know,
you're tired of it. You got like everyone I think
he ran, of course, but part of that was also
just the advent of streaming and whatnot. And at the
same time, and the show was always leave him wanting more, right,
So I din't think it was a great time to
go off the air. We had a wonderful run. I
met a lot of great friends. I met my wife,
my dog, et cetera. You know, everything's great about Finding Bigfoot,
and it went off the air at the right time,
I think. And since that time, television general has been
a tumultuous area of working. I mean, you know more
than anybody. But I know people on other TV shows.
I don't know what they're cast members on some of
these other shows, and they all say, yeah, the money's
not there. It's still hard work. There's there's there's hardly
any budget for things and stuff. And so since that time,
you've gotten out of the television game pretty much. I know,
you do a little side thing here and there, but
you're actually starting a new avenue of employment for yourself.
I have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So as you're saying, television to me, I I
is basically no exist anymore.
Speaker 4: And also you know AI is going to be even
more non existent, so I have.
Speaker 1: I moved to Australia after I left television. I met
a girl when I did one of the Shark shows
and moved there. And when I was there, I I
love iced tea and I noticed that there's no ic
TA anywhere, and I can do so my girlfriend's like, well,
why don't you make your own? And so I'm like,
good ideas. So then I started taking these blending classes,
so I learned how to blend te's and then that's
where I came up with the idea of Strip Tea.
So it's an iced tea company that's like just all
natural stuff, only the good stuff, to strip down to
what really matters. And so yeah, and then unfortunately my
Beesa read out and heard I didn't. We broke up.
So I came back to the stage, I moved back
to Portland I'm from, and I decided to start it here.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so Strip Teas is a new by the way,
it's a new venture. You're gonna get a handful of
flavors off the ground here. You're gonna start appearing at
farmers markets. I guess it's coming Wednesday, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So my first farmer's market is in Camas, Washington,
this on Wednesday, June tenth, from two from three to seven.
It's gonna be into little event space called Doestation three
nine nine next to the Farmer's market. It's besides myself,
Stripped Teas, I have four flavors. We got berry white,
which is a strawberry blueberry white tea which is really
like refreshing. We have Peach Please, which is green tea
with peach. We got rose Hips Don't Lie, which is
at biscus rose tea, which is really heart and then
we have Rip City Roads, which is the black seed
with some rose flavoring in it. That's sort of a
nod to Portland. But besides me, there's also like jewelry, cookies, pastries, clothing,
so there's something for everybody.
Speaker 2: Well and whatever, whatever it's worth. I'm gonna be there.
I'm gonna come down and help Chad set up. I'll
be there for at least a couple hours, I think,
So if you want to come down and say hi,
I'd love to see anybody down there and come on
down and give me a pigeon roll at some point
fIF to show me remember.
Speaker 1: Yes. So it's downtown Camus right there on the main
strip three three nine Cedar Streets. This is my this
is my first event. This has been a year in
the making, so I'm getting I'm very excited.
Speaker 3: I tried that very white. It was awesome. Dude, that's
a bit. I'm not a big ice tea guy. And
that was so good. It was my best I ever
had for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just said again there's no sugars in there,
but like it's all fruit, Like the fruit is a sugar,
I uh you know, just like just like my man
Verry White. It's smooth and soulful, awesome, fantastic.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, cool Hammel. So that's chat Hammill formally
a funding Bigfoot Now strip tease, So check that stuff out.
Go to camus on the June tent check um out
clip will be there and thanks for listening, joining us,
and until next week, y'all keep it squatchy.
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