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Speaker 1: Bubo Fay Bobo. How you doing man O good?

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Speaker 3: How's it going Cliff, It's.

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Speaker 1: Going all right, man.

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Speaker 2: We've got a fun guest today. I know that we're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And of course we'll get to that probably

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towards the end because we have a lot of other

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fun stuff to talk about in between, because today's guest

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is the lovely and talented Chad hammil who was the

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supervising field producer for Finding Bigfoot. We've had Chad on

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one other time on the podcast, but I know a

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lot of people enjoy finding Bigfoot alumni on the show

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because they get to see behind the curtain a little

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bit and talk about what went on behind the scenes

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and how certain scenes were set up and all that

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kind of stuff, and Chad was I guess there's two

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ways to look at it. He was either in charge

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of it all or he's the guy solely to blame.

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Either way, Chad, how you doing?

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Speaker 1: Man? Doing good? Thanks? Guys.

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Speaker 3: You'll do anything without a mouthful of food.

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Speaker 4: I didn't have a mouthful of food, but I'll do

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it again.

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Speaker 1: Nothing.

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Speaker 3: Something he has like a big water of tuning the

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baca or food or something.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I always have a big about tuneing tobacco

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in just because I get kidnapped by some big foots,

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I can give him that and make him sick.

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Speaker 2: A deep gut Albert ausmin reference. So Chad, you know,

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I mean not not every TV producer knows anything about

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Albert Ousman. How do you feel about that? Like like

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a What I mean by that is you are now

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blessed dash curse with a tremendous amount of bigfoot knowledge.

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Did you ever think that was gonna happen to you

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in your life?

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Speaker 1: No, that's a simple answer.

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Speaker 2: No. Is it a curse for a blessing?

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Speaker 1: Well, it's starting to become kind of a fun blessing

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because I've been back single again, and so I've been

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like going on in dates and it's a great conversation starter.

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People are like, oh what what how does this?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: They always want to know about Bigfoot, and I'm like,

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how much do you want to know? And how deep

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dives you want to go? Because there's a lot of

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wormholes there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great date fodder though, Oh it.

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Speaker 1: Is because you know when people like also just like

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you'd like to like kind of like leave a big

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statement start kind of in big Uous.

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Speaker 4: It's like I went from looking for Bigfoot for years

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to make a nice.

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Speaker 1: Tea and everyone's like, wait, wait, wait, hold on, what

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you got you explain this to me?

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Speaker 4: So then it's it's a conversation starter for sure.

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Speaker 2: Well he also took a side trip over to Shark

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Week for a while, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, So after working on Bigfoot, I did

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a couple more like sort of in the paranormal world

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of ghost shows and things like that. But ghost people

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are crazy. So then I moved over to like, yeah,

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more nature shows, and I did a lot of shark shows,

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survivals shows, things like that.

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Speaker 4: And then the last big show I did was for Netflix.

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Speaker 1: It was a Shark International shark competition show called All

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the Sharks where we went around the world when these

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four teams, like shark experts would go and try to

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fight and and pick photos of different sharks with different

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boys kind of like Pokemon go uh huh. And that

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a it was more about conservation and like you know,

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like and showing the show in the world that you know,

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there's more than five kinds of sharks. There's more than

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this just you know, the great whites, tigers, bulls, and hammerheads.

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Speaker 2: Well those are just the big glamour sharks, right.

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Speaker 1: Well you know how TV does it, they'd like they

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Speaker 2: That That's something I always found a little frustrating with

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the TV show The Finding Bigfoot. Thing is that we

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are catering to a mass audience in a lot of ways,

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so you couldn't really get deep and nerdy as I

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as my tendencies tend to cool or deep and cool, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I believe that networks under they underestimate their audience. They

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think their ardis is dumb. But then you go to

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like look at like really smart scripted shows. They don't

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understand sim their adis and they have just fine numbers.

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networks just aren't smart. They did they they thought they're

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smarter than their audience.

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Speaker 2: They certainly thought they were smarter than us.

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Speaker 3: We showed them. Yeah jah, did you ever did you

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like especially something like like great waves or tigers or

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bull sharks and the trollers like somewhere like well maybe

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and like a tiger shark or something was there they

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never noticed any common denominators.

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always wanted to like try to like find one specific shark,

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like you know, like hey, go We're gonna go out

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there and find and they would just make up a

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name like go find Queenie and she's the biggest beast

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shark of the lad and so it's it's it's more

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like making branding a monster and even looking for that monster.

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mean sharks. A lot of times with the with the

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sharks stuff I did, we were going to places that

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we knew sharks were at. I mean, obviously sharks aren't.

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want them to. So, but but like you know, like

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you're going to like if you go to like Tiger

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like a chum and that they they don't even need

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chump in the water. They hear it.

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Speaker 4: And then you look back behind the boat there's a

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hundred tiger sharks f on you.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't sound like a great place to swim.

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Speaker 4: No, if someone goes you can jump in Jagon, No,

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there's sharks in there.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever jump in? I did want so. I

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place wherepp but we're on a reef and there's a

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black tips that are you know, they're not that dangers.

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they're big. There's like, I don't know, like six long

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tip sharks down there. So I put on these big

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diving finins masks and I jump in the water. I

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look down and there's like thirty these massive blackfin sharks

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are black tip sharks, that's the shit, but anither way

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below me, and then I see one I kind of

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kind of surfing up looking at me getting closer. I'm like,

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then I look a get it closer. So then I'm

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dive fins. That faster you kick, the slower you go.

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get to the boat and it bumps me and I

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just let on the scream. The boy got ran and

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got me to go. What happened? I got tacked my shark.

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Speaker 4: They also a laughing. They're like, dude, that shark just

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Speaker 3: There's some big bully bumpsh at a bar means he

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wants to fight a lot of times.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I thought I've been in a shark attack.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, So you do any like cage

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's like when we were out in Bigfoot,

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like I don't really have time.

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Speaker 1: I guess you know, when we go big on the

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Nine Investcations, I'd be out there with you.

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Speaker 4: But like on these shows, like you only have so

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Speaker 1: On your dive times and like your windows to get

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the sharks with the weather and everything was so quick

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just like get the get their cast in there, give

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what we did to get you know, then you have

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to go into there and like did the comps never work?

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Speaker 4: You have to go back down and do it again

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Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I never got in there.

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Speaker 3: How much of that footage is it? Like ad R Like,

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how much is that?

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Speaker 1: How much?

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Speaker 3: Like whatever? I listen whenever I watch The Dark Show,

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any show where they're diving like sharks, I imagine all

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the dialogue almost always is done after I would say.

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Speaker 1: About eighty percent of it is. Yeah, because what happens

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masks have have you could talk to each other and it's.

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Speaker 4: Someone on deck, but they never work, ever, ever work.

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Speaker 1: And if they do, it sounds like, you know, you

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talked to someone in the space station, like so then

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we kind of know what they were saying, and it's

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Speaker 4: Again, we're just recreating what was said that wasn't recorded.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's funny. I should send you guys a picture

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when you do record again. When you do the ADR,

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into a bucket of water. So you're sitting in a

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hotel room and you have to read the lines with

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a wearing a scuba mask. I have a picture of

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one of our host's doing it. Yeah, that's great.

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Speaker 2: He has sent it to us, so we'll give it

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to Matt Pruitt, who's not here today. He's off I

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think he's in the woods or something. I don't know

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what he's doing, but he will post sit on our

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members section for the members, so they check that out.

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Speaker 1: Out of the New Zealand. I remember this where the

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New Zealand and I had my friend Tom the Blowfish heard.

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He's this big British dude with a breaded beard. He

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was the host of the last show I did, called

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All the Sharks. But he's just sitting in there doing

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his pickup lines. And I'm pretty sure I took a

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picture because I think a parrot was in the background. Apparently.

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Speaker 2: What are the commonalities I guess between doing a Bigfoot

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show and doing a shark show? And I guess the

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second half is like, what are the differences? That's probably

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more fun.

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Speaker 1: It's not a ton because it's just so, but Bigfoot

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it's just about going to the right areas, you know,

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making sure we have the right witnesses and making sure

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we have the people. With Bigfoot is there's way more

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about making sure we had people to talk to. Its

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stories that fall up one with sharks, it's all about

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you know, being on a boat. Being it's such a

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different world like when you're when you're because it's like

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on weather, you know, then going out to an area,

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then you know, hoping that sharks are in that area.

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Speaker 4: I mean, because there's a lot of times we would

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Speaker 1: We wouldn't see anything, So I mean it's I mean,

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night investigation where we got skuked sharks and bigfoots.

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Speaker 2: Don't know the coal sheet, Stay tuned for more Bigfoot

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and Beyond with Cliff and Bogo will be right back

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Speaker 3: What I always say, like, I'm not talking about you,

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but I always say that people is the thing about

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like with Bigfoot, is like with Great Whites and other

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tire sharks whatever is that One common common audition of

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those two shows would be, you're just spelling this about

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a wanton killer, like some randomized killer that just attacks

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whatever it sees.

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Speaker 1: Like That's so true, Bulbs, because that's a good point

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because I also think of them that geo sharks shows,

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and they're like the shows are always called say like

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like I survived a shark attack or things like that

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that they like those delicious titles, and to get actual

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shark experts on to talk about it was nearly impossible

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because they're like, no, I don't. I don't like what

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you guys are doing. I don't. It's sharks are not killers.

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Sharks like they don't care about people, like they always say,

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if sharks had hands, there'd be no shark attacks because

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they use their mouth to feel. They're not out there

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to kill you. The times they do bite people, they're

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just like, see what it.

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Speaker 3: Is, rarely attack people to eat, because there's so.

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Speaker 1: Rare that the teche people again like it's they're just feeling you.

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But the problem is they have a giant mouthful of

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sharp teeth. But yeah, I know, Like so I had

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a really hard time getting like expert on it because

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they're just like, no, I'm not going to perpetuate a

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myth of this, you know, mindleus killer because that's not

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what sharks are. And again with bigfoot, I think a

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lot of people have definitely like, you know, like misconceptions

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about the creature.

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Speaker 2: Well, like, what what are your thoughts because you're kind

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of a civilian in a way. I mean, you're not

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exactly you're not a research or anything like that, but boy,

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you've been you know, baptized by fire.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I don't know, I kind of feel

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like you know, like, there's so many different averages with

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Bigfoot that there's ways that you know, you have people

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who think, you know, it's a sort of a spirit animal.

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things like that. I mean, I think, you know, it's

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more if it's anything, it's it's you know, just some

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sort of North American ape.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you think soundsquatches are real before he came on?

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Or this is not something you thought about at all?

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Speaker 1: No, I did not think they're Well, I grew up

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inn Oregon, so it's definitely part of our culture here,

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and I had friends whose parents saw bigfoots in high

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school and we made fun of them relentlessly.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I imagine you could be a real asshole when

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you want to be. But at some point or another

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that that tune changed. I think when was that Maybe

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New York when you and I and Bobo were out

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or something we heard that thing, or.

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Speaker 1: Probably you know, there might have been one specific time.

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But to me that this is always what I tell people.

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But to me, what actually made me believe the most

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is the witnesses, because again, we heard were instead we saw,

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but I never saw anything with my eyes. So but

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what I did see and talked to was like, you know,

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remember that guy Tim, the sheriff in Kentucky, Like that

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guy was he shot true? Like and he's like, I

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saw from this far. We talked to a secret service

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agent who can't lie, and he saw it from face

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to face. We saw it. We talked to a judge

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one time, and these are old people who could only

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by telling their story did only hurt their careers.

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Speaker 4: So they're not gaining anything by it.

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Speaker 1: One about those vocals.

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Speaker 3: We heard in the first organ expedition.

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Speaker 4: You know those are all cool, right but great, But

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I didn't We don't be able to see it.

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Speaker 1: You'd always have.

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Speaker 2: Self doubt, right, the casts had very little self doubt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you think had self doubt? Come on, I say,

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but the witnesses who like some of the witnesses I

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still to this day, don't believe other ones I think

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maybe were crazy. But there's certain sermons that we all know.

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They're like this guy like Bob Bob Gimman. You know

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you have those kind of witnesses that you're like, I

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can't argue with this person. He's here's a tried, true

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person who saw what they saw and like if they

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saw that, I have to believe it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like it, Yeah exactly, like if these

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people didn't see.

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Speaker 1: But we heard some really crazy things. I mean the

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craziest thing that to me that we ever got encountered

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was in Tennessee with two tree pushovers in two different nights.

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Speaker 3: One then we went back, we got one, and then

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we went back to couple ed so we got another

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treet pushover.

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Speaker 1: Yep, that's three of the pig callers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, who thought of that idea?

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Speaker 1: Both of them thought by me, but some of them

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were God money Maker used to hate my ideas. Oh yeah,

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but like I love them either, but like that was

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the network mandate, like I do have time. They were

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just like ridiculous, but who cares. Yeah, we got people.

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I know it.

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Speaker 2: As a cast member, I got a lot of hate

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for some of those ideas, man, Just like I was.

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Speaker 1: Still somebody about one of the ideas the other day

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as I was hanging out with shot Man two that

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was with him last two weeks ago, and we were

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talking about like one of the first things we ever

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did was the grid search in North Carolina. That was

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the first episode we ever shot. I know aired second,

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but like that kind of made sense. I know you

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guys are a little upset about it at first because

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you know you can be trampling on evidence. But then

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the best one was I believe I don't want to

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like I don't want to name names here, but someone

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above me, I want to do a night grid search

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with people walking through the woods at night looking for

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I'm like, where are we supposed to find at night?

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That sounds like a.

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Speaker 2: Uh the fifth that could be, could could not be?

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Speaker 1: Who knows? He won?

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Speaker 3: Remember I really brought that up. When they brought that up,

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I was like, we're screwing No, we're not. Like we've

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like I've traveled evidence at night, like knowing there's supposed

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to be like that one walked around somewhere like I've

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gone there to night and looked, and I'm like, would

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I do that for the next day? I see my

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flip prints, but you know where they could have possibly walked.

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Speaker 1: Well, imagine then you have like forty people out there

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who don't know what.

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Speaker 3: They're doing, or three hundred like Tennessee search.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you weren't on that Tennessee one, but that's the

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one that we actually had a Tim Burchett out there

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with us on that one.

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Speaker 1: I was there, Oh, what are you on that one? Okay,

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I didn't think you made that one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's when you guys got the key to the

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key to Tennessee or.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got the key to Knoxville and I got that.

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We got those We got those business cards from the

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county sheriff saying if you get pulled over, like you

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guys are cruise around at night, just giving this card

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and telling the collars you have any problems. I was like, yes, you.

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Speaker 1: Guys. Remember when we were we were leaving, I was

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say Connecticut, maybe Kenning, Rhode Island, and we were going

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to we were leaving, we were flying. I think we

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might even fly home. We've been on the read a

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long time. And we were driving back to Boston and

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we're going way too fast and we get pulled over

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and I don't think the cop realizes like when we're driving,

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we're in a caravan, like three to four cars. So

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we all pulled over. The cop pulls up and Matt

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gets out of the car like, Matt get back at

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the car. I'm like, what's money maker going to do

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to ruin this? And the guy goes, hey, I know

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you because we were going like ninety and sixty five

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because we were so late to the airport and actually work.

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Matt talked to guys and he goes off, and I

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was like, there's no way that ever happens again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well he has a tremendous amount of luck in

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his back pocket. See, you never know what's going to

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happen with him. You know, it could go either way

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pretty quick. I think I think you got that one

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mixed up, Handell. That was I think the one when

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we got pulled over. That when we were like in

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three or four cars in a convoy. That's when the

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guy walked up and goes, he looks. He goes, you're

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the big foot guy.

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Speaker 3: And I said, I didn't give Merritt badgers for you know,

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policemen pulling over cars at night ers. I called them

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boy scouts. He looked like he was nineteen.

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Speaker 1: I remember that. I remember this one because we were

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Natalie was now that you you Stone was driving the

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front and she was going, I mean, we were going

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way too fast.

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Speaker 3: We got pulled over a couple of times, were going

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but you know, I think we got pulled over twice

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out of all this speeding. We did late at night

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all over the country for years and years. We never

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got pulled over almost ever, Like for how much fast

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driving we did, it was nuts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, a money maker is a legendary

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fast driver. Like he just drives fast, and when he

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gets frustrated, he drives a little faster. Some of my

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favorite memories were being in a castcar because eventually at

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some point we were sequestered to the castcar so we

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didn't have to you guys didn't have to interact with

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us because we were a pain in the ass. And

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so like we're in our own little car and you

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have to deal with each other. And then that would

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get frustrated about something, and we were driving in a

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caravan and he would be like third or some second

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third or whatever in the caravan. He'd get frustrated about

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the driving and then past the person who's leading the caravan,

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only to realize that he doesn't know where we're going.

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Speaker 1: Not quite often. So I love that stuff, man, love it.

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I was thinking about the other day, and this is

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back to bigfoot evidence more of that. We were in

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Fresno and we had that big I guess it's almost

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like a fire horn or air rates, and I don't

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even know if we started recording yet, but I heard it,

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but it sounded like fireworks, and I didn't know what

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it was. And then like I think we all were

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kind of like taking it back. But then I remember

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later when I was in Tennessee, it sounded the same.

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So I think, you know, we had a tree pushover

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right before we even even started shooting. Could be true,

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could be true. That brought it up, like he's like,

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that's a tree. I go, no, that's that wasn't what

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I go. I don't know what that was. But he

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was mad that Bobo did the air raids side before

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we started, because and Bob were like, no, we got

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to get this thing going, got to get the party started.

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I was wrong, not even wrong. We actually, you know what,

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thinking back about it, we might have been rolling him.

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Speaker 4: And that's the thing that sucked the most about Bigfoot.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like you'd be out of the night

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investigation doing them like five in the morning, and you know,

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like obviously when you watch TV, it looks like five minutes,

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but it's just hours and hours, and then never really

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our cameras go down and we'd be changing cards or

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whatever and that's where you'd hear it.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, it's Murphy's law.

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Speaker 4: We remember so that last the last episode we did,

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the reunion show.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh.

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Speaker 1: I was with you, Bobo, because if were you there

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when when we heard that big grol I don't remember that.

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I know Bobo's there. Oh no, that one of the

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the the one of the guys, and we were there

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and literally the cameras just went down. The only good

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thing is is Graham's the audio guy, had the audio

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still rolling on his on his on his mixer, but

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all the.

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Speaker 4: Cameras were down at that moment because we were changing

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out and like it was close.

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00:19:43,319 --> 00:19:44,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it was super close.

475
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,279
Speaker 2: That's one of the frustrating things about doing bigfoot stuff

476
00:19:48,319 --> 00:19:50,519
on television is that if it's and I didn't get

477
00:19:50,559 --> 00:19:52,680
it at first, but obviously, like you know, a few

478
00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:55,640
years of TV, it teaches you something. If it didn't

479
00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,519
happen on camera, it didn't happen. And I always found

480
00:19:58,519 --> 00:20:00,759
that to be so frustrating because some much great stuff

481
00:20:00,839 --> 00:20:02,039
did happen off camera.

482
00:20:02,759 --> 00:20:05,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's times when we had to we

483
00:20:05,759 --> 00:20:06,720
had to play it off camera.

484
00:20:06,799 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just you know how it is. It's

485
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,920
like if you try to fake it later, it just

486
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,519
looks bad and it kind of ruins your credibility.

487
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So you've worked on a lot of

488
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,279
different shows, and what was different about our show I

489
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,240
think than say, I don't know, the Sharks show or

490
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,759
a paranormal show or any of these other things that

491
00:20:25,759 --> 00:20:26,279
you're done.

492
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,400
Speaker 1: Like, oh, I mean so the Shark show again, those

493
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,839
are those shark shows I did, the Shark weeks. Those

494
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,000
are kind of a nominate to themselves just because it's

495
00:20:33,039 --> 00:20:35,359
just you're out in the middle of the ocean all

496
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,599
around the world. So that's cool. But I would say

497
00:20:37,599 --> 00:20:40,960
for Finding Bigfoot, in comparison to all of the shows

498
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,160
I'm talking like treasure hunting shows up in those, I've

499
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,920
big ghost shows, I've been alien shows, fighty Bigfoot was

500
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,720
the most real show I've ever done, like, and I'm

501
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,440
talking about even like house reality shows, Like we faked

502
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,119
way more in house reality shows. We really didn't fake anything,

503
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,319
you know, like, yeah, sometimes we had you guys say

504
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,880
things or like again, that's the camera down and we

505
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,200
heard something and it was we maybe had you guys

506
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,559
do a head turn to get a reaction shot. But

507
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,440
on a whole you know, everything we did was extremely real, like,

508
00:21:07,519 --> 00:21:11,640
you know, like we had witnesses pre pre picked just

509
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:12,680
so we knew we had enough.

510
00:21:12,839 --> 00:21:15,039
Speaker 4: But you guys made their own choice after town hall.

511
00:21:15,279 --> 00:21:16,519
Speaker 1: A lot of times we had to tell those people

512
00:21:16,519 --> 00:21:19,200
that we talked beforehand, hey, I'm sorry they decided to

513
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,279
go to somebody else, because we might at town hall,

514
00:21:21,319 --> 00:21:23,400
we might get a news story and it might be frashing,

515
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,319
it might be even it might have other evidence that's

516
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,559
better than the one person that we sort of pre selected,

517
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,599
and so like we always had to be ready to

518
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,440
shift and pivot on a dime. And like, and the

519
00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:36,920
final place that we would go to do a Finnit investigation,

520
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,759
obviously we have to have permits, but we'd permit the

521
00:21:39,799 --> 00:21:41,480
whole area and then you guys would pick that area.

522
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,960
It wasn't like it was like, hey, here's where we're going.

523
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,559
A lot of times, you know, like the cast doesn't

524
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,039
drive the engine. But on this show, like i mean, obviously,

525
00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:51,160
because we all trust each other, there's a lot of

526
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,920
work together. But it was there wasn't any sort of

527
00:21:55,319 --> 00:21:57,359
trickery and hoaxing and the you know, and then like

528
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,480
the people we talked to were real, and like the

529
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,920
decisions that you guys made to go areas were real.

530
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 2: Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bogo.

531
00:22:08,599 --> 00:22:17,640
Will be right back after these messages, it seems like

532
00:22:17,759 --> 00:22:19,640
I've done a little TV afterwards, and not nearly as

533
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,279
much as of course you have. You know, this is

534
00:22:21,319 --> 00:22:23,200
your was your life for a long time. Yeah, but

535
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,559
it seems to me that finding Bigfoot was the One

536
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,559
thing that stands out is that the cast did have

537
00:22:30,839 --> 00:22:33,720
so much control over And I think it's mostly because

538
00:22:33,759 --> 00:22:37,160
we were stubborn assholes, Like but I can't imagine most

539
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,559
other TV shows letting the cast derail everything mid episode

540
00:22:41,599 --> 00:22:44,079
and change and go to a different location or change

541
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,319
different witnesses, And it's like, I think that's relatively unheard of.

542
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: But I think that's also why the show worked and

543
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,799
last as long as it did, because people, well, you know,

544
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,359
like I think I told you it's pretty early on

545
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,680
that you guys, or the reason that people come back,

546
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,960
you know, like it, like, well, bigfoots the through line

547
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,880
people like following you guys, but it's your guys' authentic

548
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,880
belief and you guys like doing like really wanted to

549
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,079
go to you know, like areas that you agreed with

550
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,240
and then you know, like disagree with each other and

551
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,240
you know, like arguing your points and you know it's

552
00:23:14,319 --> 00:23:16,960
not like I'm I can't really talk about other big potows.

553
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,440
I haven't watched each other, but I mean the little

554
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,920
clips I've seen every all the like discussions seemed very

555
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,960
manufactured to me, like very like produced.

556
00:23:26,319 --> 00:23:29,559
Speaker 2: Right Whereas that you got four people on finding Bigfoot.

557
00:23:30,039 --> 00:23:31,400
Even if you did tell us what to do, we

558
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:32,119
probably wouldn't.

559
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 1: All other dudes is want to give you some tent poles.

560
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,119
I'm like, Eric, could you say this, this and this

561
00:23:36,279 --> 00:23:38,720
and let you guys say and then sometimes you would

562
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,240
just say no, and then I'm like okay again, like

563
00:23:41,279 --> 00:23:43,359
we got I mean, season one, I think we all

564
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,440
agree was very hard. You guys didn't know me, I

565
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,400
didn't know you, and I didn't know anything about bigfoots.

566
00:23:48,599 --> 00:23:50,799
You guys didn't know anything about TV, and it took,

567
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,240
you know a while to earn that trust. And then

568
00:23:53,519 --> 00:23:56,200
and you get to an area where we were able

569
00:23:56,279 --> 00:23:58,720
to go like, you know, I'm not gonna screw you over,

570
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,640
and then you know I need your help. And also

571
00:24:01,839 --> 00:24:04,960
we all became good friends, so it became much easier

572
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,440
to sort of do It's still never easy, but much

573
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,720
easier to sort of understand where you guys are coming from,

574
00:24:10,759 --> 00:24:13,519
and you guys understand what I needed one hundred percent.

575
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,839
Speaker 2: So what about these ghost shows that you did? I

576
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,440
don't want to of course, I don't want any names

577
00:24:17,519 --> 00:24:19,200
or anything like that or these shows that you might

578
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,759
have done, But it makes sense that you would do

579
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,279
a bigfoot show than like other producers that say, oh, well,

580
00:24:24,319 --> 00:24:27,400
we've got this other paranormal show, not realizing that sasquatches

581
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,599
are paranormal, and I'm like, of course you did that,

582
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,920
therefore you should do this. What are the big differences there? Like,

583
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,640
I mean, was it I don't even know what shows

584
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,359
they were, Like, was it a ghost show where you're

585
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,240
in one house all night long? Or no?

586
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: I did I did a couple of ghost shows. I

587
00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:43,000
don't want to name it because I'm going to trash

588
00:24:43,039 --> 00:24:45,880
it right now. No, of course, but like it was

589
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,799
one that each episode we went to a different town

590
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,920
and sort of followed a story about you know why

591
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,960
these Like it wasn't just a house, it was like

592
00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:58,519
why this area sort of was haunted? And I just

593
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,279
found I had a hard time. A lot of with

594
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,200
the ghost people. I found a lot of them were

595
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,519
we're con artists and you know, we're very especially the

596
00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:10,920
people who were like were were psychics and mediums. I'm

597
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,960
not saying that those don't exist. I'm saying the people

598
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,519
I worked with because like you know that they they

599
00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:19,319
were just praying on people's like emotions and they're like, oh,

600
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,960
this is what they're saying, and this is what they're

601
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,880
and I just I just found it the hardest wallow.

602
00:25:24,519 --> 00:25:26,759
And also, you know, like a bigfoot. You know, you're out,

603
00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:28,880
you can see animals, you can see a big foot.

604
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,599
Like when you're in a ghost place, you're just like

605
00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:33,920
you're running around a barn. You know, you're like cool

606
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,720
at a barn. It's three in the morning in Michigan. Yeah,

607
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,759
Although there was one thing that happened those super weird

608
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,319
we were into the sea and there's the thing called

609
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,079
spirit box. It's basically a radio that goes through all

610
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,039
the diffrenuencies constantly and like you'll hear like words pop

611
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,599
up when it hits some sort of radio tone I guess,

612
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,680
or a radio wave. And the thought is that ghosts

613
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,599
can speak through it and we're down stairs at this

614
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,160
place and the host takes some ticket cards, pulls one out,

615
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,440
puts something ground and he goes, tell me what card

616
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,680
did I just put on the ground, And all of

617
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,599
a sudden and like a minute, my body goes eight.

618
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,720
And I said, did I say eight? And the guy

619
00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:16,160
pulls up the card. It was eight, they said, Chad.

620
00:26:16,799 --> 00:26:20,599
And our friend Andy Bartlett goes, I'm out of here.

621
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,920
And he's got up and left the house and do

622
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,599
the rest from that because he has a wireless so

623
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:30,079
he did from outside the house. That's great, that's weird.

624
00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:32,319
Speaker 2: Bobo and I went on a ghost tour on the

625
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,480
Queen Mary or something and somebody had a spirit box

626
00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:36,839
and that's when I first learned I don't believe in

627
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,720
those at all, because we're in the Queen Mary and this,

628
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,839
you know, supposedly from the late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds,

629
00:26:43,839 --> 00:26:45,440
and and one of the one of the words that

630
00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:48,359
came up on the ghost box whatever it was, SoundCloud.

631
00:26:48,599 --> 00:26:52,759
Speaker 1: I said, wait a minute, wait a minute. And one

632
00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:55,200
thing they have on here, you remember the old Nintendo wheeze.

633
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,960
Oh yeah, yeah, So there was a thing on there

634
00:26:58,039 --> 00:26:59,920
is going to connect to something and that watches you

635
00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:03,480
you and like it can mimic like your avatar on screen.

636
00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:05,920
So they take those out and I guess you know,

637
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,759
it makes a little stick figure on your different joints.

638
00:27:10,079 --> 00:27:12,079
But so like ghost hunters will take it out and

639
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,359
this aiming at things, and all of a sudden, a

640
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,640
stick figure will appear somewhere and that's a ghost and

641
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,400
they would jump around there everywhere, and it was so like,

642
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,920
you know, like it's just picking up on a point,

643
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,480
like what what's the what's the rationale that it could

644
00:27:25,559 --> 00:27:28,319
it could all of a sudden, a thing that Nintendo

645
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,240
bought is just seeing a ghosts with its and it

646
00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:32,759
can actually pinpoint its joints.

647
00:27:33,559 --> 00:27:36,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, there's a lot of silly things out there,

648
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,200
things that at least seem silly on the surface. I'm

649
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,440
sure ghost nerds love it, you know, when they're totally

650
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,880
into it and probably believe it and all that kind

651
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,720
of stuff. And and I don't know anything. I'm just

652
00:27:43,759 --> 00:27:45,640
a big foot guy. So no hate mail to me.

653
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,880
Send it all to Matt Prue, a big foot beyond podcasts.

654
00:27:50,759 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 3: His fault.

655
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,839
Speaker 1: Have you guys got any like I ask you some questions? Yeah?

656
00:27:55,559 --> 00:27:58,359
Is there been any good, cool bigfoot stories Like so,

657
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,480
I'm kind of out of the loop these days. There

658
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,279
wasn't there a big one recently that like a whole

659
00:28:03,319 --> 00:28:04,599
family of people were seeing something.

660
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,839
Speaker 2: There's lots of signings stuff going on, and the one

661
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:08,440
in Ohio, Bob.

662
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,559
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm not sure everyone's convinced I was all

663
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,319
was cracked up? Do you I think Cliff looked at

664
00:28:13,319 --> 00:28:14,279
it a little more than I did.

665
00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well, that Ohio flap, you know, apparently when

666
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,079
it came down to a lot of the witnesses were

667
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,599
never vetted. They just said they saw something and it

668
00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:25,160
was no follow up and the initial I got it

669
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,519
from a bfr O source that the initial witness was

670
00:28:27,559 --> 00:28:29,759
a fifteen year old whose story might have changed a bit.

671
00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:32,880
I mean, but they're fifteen, you know, so that's that's allowed.

672
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,880
I guess, you know, you can't scream liar in point

673
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,119
or whatever. So that was a little ambiguous. And some

674
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,079
other stuff has happened since then in that general area.

675
00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:43,799
When I say general area, I mean like eastern Ohio.

676
00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:46,359
I mean that's a huge area. It doesn't know it

677
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,000
was connected to it, called police.

678
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,599
Speaker 4: I don't know, so they say, I would I thought

679
00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:52,359
I read on the news.

680
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know.

681
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, that's just it. It did get on

682
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,960
the news, but just because it's on the media doesn't

683
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:58,640
make it true either.

684
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, but there was a siding over there.

685
00:29:01,759 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: I followed up on a siding just a couple of

686
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,480
weeks ago over there by just just north of Carson, Washington,

687
00:29:07,519 --> 00:29:10,400
over there in Comedia County. Somebody saw one on the

688
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,839
side of the road over there, and I went and

689
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,680
I went there, like I couldn't get there for like

690
00:29:13,759 --> 00:29:16,200
a week. But that's okay because the exact location wasn't

691
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,160
even available for a week. I went over there and

692
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,400
checked that out. There's been a couple of things coming

693
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,440
into the NABC, but we've talked about some of that

694
00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:24,000
stuff on the podcast.

695
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: What was your favorite international place? Eh?

696
00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 3: People always ask me that one, and I gotta say

697
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,759
they were all awesome. I think my least favorite was

698
00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:37,039
probably Brazil. You know, it was cool, but it wasn't

699
00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:39,559
as cool as the other places. And hearing that year

700
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,160
there we heard that YETI and Nepal that was insane.

701
00:29:42,279 --> 00:29:44,359
That was awesome, And Australia was insane. I got they

702
00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:47,160
had multiple I mean for sure, Australia is the most

703
00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:50,759
action I got out there. But Vietnam was so rad,

704
00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:53,119
so cool. China was once we get out of the

705
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,920
city's Chinese country, I was absolutely beautiful. In Australia was

706
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,039
just Australia. I mean, I'll show it's so like home,

707
00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:00,400
you know in a lot of ways. It was still

708
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,440
a lot different, but it was when you got down,

709
00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:04,039
did you run? Did you remind people that you knew

710
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:06,519
the cool and got a chicken fight champion in twenty twelve.

711
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,839
Speaker 1: I told one person they didn't remember you.

712
00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 3: That was awesome.

713
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: It was fun just to be there, but sucked for

714
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,480
big Foot. He was England.

715
00:30:16,119 --> 00:30:18,119
Speaker 3: Oh I forgot about that. Yeah, that was that was

716
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,640
kind of well. I Meanaii, England and Hawaii were kind

717
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:21,799
of the same for me, Like I knew we were

718
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,400
going to find anything in England. I had a little

719
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:27,000
glimmer of hope, you know, just because I heard some

720
00:30:27,119 --> 00:30:28,799
things before you going over there, But I forget that.

721
00:30:28,839 --> 00:30:32,200
I'm like, there's no way. But I mean Hawaii that was.

722
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,599
That was awesome. But there was that was a total

723
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,119
like jump in the Shark episode.

724
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,039
Speaker 1: That was like the Brady Bunch going to Hawaii.

725
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, if you ever watched always say

726
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,480
that you ever watched that Pretty Bunch Goes with Hawaii

727
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,680
again watching Greg Brady, who doing Greg Brady eats it.

728
00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:50,359
He's going backside over like dry reef and he falls

729
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,079
face first off the reef. It's like such a gnarly

730
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:53,680
white out.

731
00:30:54,599 --> 00:30:57,519
Speaker 1: So if I was asking Bobo favorite internationals place to be,

732
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,079
went and shot it Australia.

733
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, honestly Australia because it was easy as

734
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,240
opposed to Samatra or somewhere like that. Yeah, yeah, I could.

735
00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:11,200
And you know, and you've been to Australia since since

736
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,240
I've been there, of course. But when we were in

737
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,759
those that that zone there, it was like San Diego

738
00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:18,000
if San Diego had one third the number of people.

739
00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:20,799
And it was gorgeous. The beaches were awesome, the weather

740
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,519
was awesome. And half hour drive inland and you're in

741
00:31:23,559 --> 00:31:24,400
Bigfoot Territory.

742
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:25,079
Speaker 3: Yeah.

743
00:31:25,119 --> 00:31:27,519
Speaker 1: Well that's where I lived, Cliff, when I went back. Yeah,

744
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,000
I did move back States after. You know, I lived

745
00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:32,160
a rift for the last year and I lived right

746
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,279
where we where we were at in Burley Head, Yeah, Burleyhead.

747
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, remember when we put the tracker on the Kangaroo.

748
00:31:39,559 --> 00:31:42,759
Speaker 1: Yes, I lived next door to that. Oh wow, that

749
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:43,559
was a cool place.

750
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:44,599
Speaker 3: That was bitch.

751
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean it's it's it's it's still a

752
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,680
lot like it's still a cool beach community, and but

753
00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:52,400
it has definitely exploded.

754
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: Well, you have a different take on a lot of

755
00:31:55,519 --> 00:31:57,640
different a lot of the episodes because you were the

756
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,759
hardest working guy in the show.

757
00:31:58,759 --> 00:31:59,839
Speaker 1: I mean, we we showed up.

758
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,359
Speaker 2: You're like, you're literally in charge of the show and

759
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,519
you're walking around picking up trash and trash bags and

760
00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:08,440
putting out crafty and getting cards and running back to

761
00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:10,079
the car for batteries and stuffing.

762
00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:12,559
Speaker 1: I mean, let's just say, like maybe our crew wasn't

763
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:17,720
the best shape crew, so someone had me run and like,

764
00:32:17,839 --> 00:32:21,160
I'm in decent shape, so I would have to be

765
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,880
running between the two crews.

766
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: Hey, man, Like you can't say they're not in good shape.

767
00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:26,400
Rounds a good shape.

768
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: It is a shape, you know. I always assumed I

769
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:35,680
was gonna die on finding Bigfoot because like, let's say

770
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,599
we're up in the Redwoods or something, and I'd be

771
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,279
with one team and that team to be like, hey,

772
00:32:40,319 --> 00:32:42,519
we're out of batteries or out of cars and I'd

773
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:44,039
have to like run between the two of us, and

774
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:47,240
we might be a mile apart. And you know, I'm

775
00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:50,039
in winter gear and or the backpack on running, and

776
00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:52,559
even though I'm in decent shape, I'm still a dozen

777
00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:54,880
times that's in my late thirties, I get winded and

778
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,680
I started looking like I started looking like a prey animal.

779
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,559
Speaker 4: I'm like, I know, if Cougar's gonna come here attack me,

780
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:01,759
this is how I die.

781
00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:04,599
Speaker 2: You know, the entire time I was on finding Bigfoot

782
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,480
with you, with all those years and seeing all the

783
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,319
things that you did in the antics and the and

784
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,640
the situations, I was confident you were going to die

785
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,960
on finding Bigfoot as well, no doubt in my mind,

786
00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:17,920
from the very first time I saw you and Bobo's

787
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,519
square off on that on that dock in Alaska where

788
00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:22,519
he almost punched you, and three in the water too,

789
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:25,000
when you went to the hospital for at least one time,

790
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:26,400
maybe twice for poison oak.

791
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: I went two times for poison oak.

792
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you. Anybody would have bet

793
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:37,920
that fighting Bigfoot would have been your demise period.

794
00:33:38,119 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: I would love, like Bobo probably can throw a great punch,

795
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,079
but no one can take a punch to the face

796
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,400
like I can. I'm the best.

797
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 2: Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo.

798
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,240
Will be right back after these messages.

799
00:34:02,279 --> 00:34:04,559
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, uh. I also kind of broke my leg

800
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,400
on finding big Foot. I cracked my shin and there's

801
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,639
a there's a fracture in it, and I didn't really

802
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:11,079
tell me people about it. When we were doing the

803
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,039
it was Bob Gimlin. What's that place called bluff? Yeah,

804
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:17,000
the bluff keep Creek up. So I was we were

805
00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:18,960
hiking down there, you know, because we ticked the horses,

806
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,800
and then we had a hike into there and I

807
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,719
was standing on a on a log looking to see

808
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,239
where all the crew is at and the log broke

809
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,800
and my legs swung around and kicked a tree and

810
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,440
I immediately knew I've cracked it.

811
00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 4: And then you know, it was it was like a

812
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,880
hairline fracture. I couldn't bitch about it, so, you know,

813
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:34,880
I just had a limp out of it.

814
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: There was a three hour hike out of there.

815
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a long run in there. Yeah, and

816
00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:39,800
that was at the beginning.

817
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: Has that has that healed? Ah?

818
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, but there's still like you can see the line

819
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,360
on my leg is still still lying there.

820
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 2: Okay, so you have physical and emotional scars from finding big.

821
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,199
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, I mean I think everyone

822
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,960
got like remember when Adam Fostero with our camera guys,

823
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,880
as you guys know, using the fleers. You're looking at

824
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,360
that at night and then you look up and all

825
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,039
you blindness, you can't see anything. And Adam was, you know,

826
00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:05,679
he's a shooter and he's looking down and he walked

827
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,280
at a tree branch goes into his eye and misses

828
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,679
his eyeball, but it actually inserts itself in all the

829
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,880
way into the eyeball, like he goes inside the socket.

830
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,519
Speaker 2: Yes, probably far one of the most dangerous things about

831
00:35:17,519 --> 00:35:19,360
walking around in the woods at night. It's poking your

832
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:19,719
eye out.

833
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: And then also in Vietnam, was doing something, stepped and

834
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:25,679
fell into a.

835
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,559
Speaker 3: He just disappeared, took one step and he was gone.

836
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cliff, when we went up in the Paul Bubbo,

837
00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:35,800
your leg was hurt. So you stayed down that day.

838
00:35:36,119 --> 00:35:37,639
But we all went up down the hill and it

839
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:40,440
started raining. Oh yeah, and we got stuck up there

840
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,760
and I remember we were doing something and we were

841
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,199
doing a scene work, and all of a sudden, I

842
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,760
was sitting on some ground and the ground just just

843
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,800
gave way and I just went And then I was like, well,

844
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:53,920
here's how I go fly down. I mean I didn't

845
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,639
go very far, but like twenty feet.

846
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 2: You know, Fosky falling into that rice paddy. You know,

847
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,239
that reminds me of I was camping in the Vietnam

848
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,599
episode the Lisa and I went camping together and we

849
00:36:04,679 --> 00:36:06,639
had like, you know, porters, and you know, we had

850
00:36:06,679 --> 00:36:08,639
a team of like four or five people making sure

851
00:36:08,639 --> 00:36:11,079
that we're not going to die out there basically. And

852
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,039
one of them in our translator. I can't remember her name,

853
00:36:14,119 --> 00:36:16,400
but she was a younger woman in probably late twenties,

854
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,360
early thirties or something.

855
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: She was great.

856
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 2: She was great, and she we absolutely needed her because

857
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,079
the other guys didn't really speak English so much. That

858
00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:25,800
was a great time. But she told me that there's

859
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,840
a difference between forest leeches and rice patty leeches, because

860
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,639
there's leeches everywhere. I had no idea how prevalent, how

861
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,519
ubiquitous leeches were pretty much everywhere else in the world.

862
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,440
But and she goes, well, and I was complaining about

863
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,079
leeches and how I don't like them and all that

864
00:36:41,159 --> 00:36:43,639
kind of stuff. She goes, oh, forest leeches aren't bad,

865
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,559
and I go, well, I don't like them. I said,

866
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:48,360
you know what's bad. She goes, Rice patty leeches. I said, well,

867
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,280
what's the difference, And she didn't. She had broken English.

868
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,960
Like as I'm saying what she said. She wasn't that

869
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,239
that clean and smooth with her English, you know, because

870
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,519
she's bilingual and that's totally respectable and stuff. And then

871
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:01,719
she goes, well, forest leeches and this is how she

872
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,599
said it. Okay, I'm not making fun of her at all. Shees,

873
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,800
forrest leeches get on you and bite Rice Patty. Leeches

874
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:17,559
crawl up leg and how you say, go in asshole. Yeah,

875
00:37:17,639 --> 00:37:20,480
that's exactly how you say that. And apparently they live

876
00:37:20,519 --> 00:37:22,559
in your intestines and it's just something that you got

877
00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:24,159
to get used to at some point.

878
00:37:25,079 --> 00:37:26,639
Speaker 3: And actually I.

879
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,039
Speaker 1: Had a leech. I remember we got home. I got

880
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:32,039
you must have been like six in the morning. We

881
00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:34,440
got home, and I didn't because in the stations we

882
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,960
always do ticks checks. When we were done with the

883
00:37:36,039 --> 00:37:38,000
nine investigation, I didn'tven think about it. I get into

884
00:37:38,039 --> 00:37:39,920
bed and like some of it on my leg and

885
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,840
I feel it and it's a leech and I pull off.

886
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,400
And then my girlfriend at the time had flown out

887
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,800
there to uh just to have her Australian vacation while

888
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,119
we worked. And the next one she woke up and

889
00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:52,960
there's blood all over the beds. Because I mean, I

890
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,960
tried be as quite as possible, but like I forgot,

891
00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:56,960
Like we take them off, you just keep bleeding.

892
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had that anti coagulant in their spit, I guess,

893
00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:00,960
And so you.

894
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:02,519
Speaker 1: We had the leaches.

895
00:38:02,559 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 4: Obviously to Paul when we all, Bobo especially had to

896
00:38:05,039 --> 00:38:05,480
deal with them.

897
00:38:06,039 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 3: Out of eleven leeches on my head when I woke up, this.

898
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:11,079
Speaker 1: Leech on your head, I've ever seen that thing.

899
00:38:11,199 --> 00:38:14,599
Speaker 3: It was as big as my thumb. Yeah, it looked

900
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:16,639
like when I when I popped, it looked like like

901
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,280
I popped a ketchup packet. Like it was just blood

902
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,159
ever sported everywhere. It was so massive. You heard that

903
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,000
yety in the calling of when the when the Shippers

904
00:38:26,039 --> 00:38:27,360
ran off. That was pretty awesome.

905
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,679
Speaker 1: You gotta yeah, so Bobo and Paul, I was just

906
00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:32,199
because I kind of that point was sort of transitioning

907
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,360
into be more of just back just prepping episodes and

908
00:38:35,679 --> 00:38:38,599
and editing episodes after China, which we had a little

909
00:38:38,599 --> 00:38:40,719
bit of an incident. From that point on, for all

910
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,519
international episodes I came out with, I mean I came

911
00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:44,440
out with the majority of episodes we did anyways, but

912
00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:46,599
not all of them. But so then I came back

913
00:38:46,639 --> 00:38:49,519
out for Nepaul, but I had you know, Steve Carroll

914
00:38:49,559 --> 00:38:51,199
was in there and he was doing more than directing.

915
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,960
So during that time I took Bobo Bobo and I

916
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,280
went out and did this little camping with our Shirpa

917
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,480
Lukla and yeah, I mean we saw we also found

918
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,400
a bear print, which is pretty cool. Yeah, and I

919
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,960
mean it was definitely a bare print. And then yeah,

920
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,840
we were Bobo and luke Lai are singing and dancing

921
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,880
and we hear a yunie call in the background.

922
00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:13,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, because those other shirpers were coming with our supplies

923
00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:14,400
and they heard it. When they heard it they were

924
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,760
coming into camp, they took off and ran hither way.

925
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, it was.

926
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,639
Speaker 3: It was exactly what the monks described with other older

927
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,400
villagers have heard them, like they all did that same

928
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,960
call and we heard that thinks about that canaon there's

929
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,639
absolutely no human beings down there like Himalayas. I mean,

930
00:39:29,679 --> 00:39:32,960
it's way down this crazy canyonate. We listened to vocalize

931
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,679
three times come up the hill. Then the all time

932
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,159
heaviest down like cloud burst, like downpour any of us

933
00:39:40,199 --> 00:39:42,239
ever experienced opened up. As soon as it got right

934
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,599
up to us. It was one hundred yards vocalized and

935
00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:47,679
all a sudden, the skies literally opened. They ran fifteen

936
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,000
inches and five hours.

937
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I had a cup for something outside

938
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,800
the sad about tent and I caught up. It was full.

939
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,679
It was completely full, like getting like a six inch cup.

940
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,400
I mean it was when you guys also remember the

941
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,719
the monk, and we had the We had the monks

942
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,440
with us for the final night investigating. They're gonna do

943
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,679
it some chance, you know. But then those other guys

944
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,639
from the village came up and they wanted to kill

945
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,880
us because they believed that we bought brought like bad spirits,

946
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,639
and we were the ones who brought the storm that

947
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,599
washed the road out. Is that storm was crazy.

948
00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 3: Wasn't a d it was a footpath.

949
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,159
Speaker 1: And then the booze monks were trying to fight, and

950
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,239
I was like, what and I was just trying to

951
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,039
get us the crew and out of the way. I'm like,

952
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,199
does this move away?

953
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 3: Like that?

954
00:40:24,559 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 1: Does people deal with and money Maker wanted to be

955
00:40:26,559 --> 00:40:28,920
like somehow be involved in them, Like, but Matt, you

956
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:29,800
don't know what they're saying.

957
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: You had his treking poles. I took one of those

958
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,280
polls from him, so I got a weapon.

959
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, found we found out later when the guys had

960
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,559
a handmade gun on him.

961
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:43,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, that could have gone real sideways because it wasn't

962
00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:45,119
the first time a gun's been pulled on us on

963
00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:45,559
that show.

964
00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: No, no, no, there's been shooters nearby. I mean I

965
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,880
think it was in Kentucky or one of those states.

966
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,320
Said they were raccoon hunting nearby when we're out there

967
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,679
doing night investigations, and.

968
00:40:55,039 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, we were in Bobo's area. We were in

969
00:40:58,519 --> 00:40:59,079
the Bluff Creek.

970
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:02,199
Speaker 1: One is that last night when we had the helicopter

971
00:41:03,079 --> 00:41:05,639
and it was me I think it's Bobo and Matt

972
00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:07,760
and I and we were doing the house that someone

973
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,039
came out of the house and I heard the shotgun pumped,

974
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,039
you know, like the action of the shot capt Pumped'm like,

975
00:41:12,519 --> 00:41:13,760
let's get out of here. It's time to go.

976
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, helicopters flying over and you know Humboldt County before

977
00:41:18,039 --> 00:41:21,880
weed was made legal in California is a dangerous, dangerous job.

978
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

979
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,159
Speaker 1: Well, then that point we landed and we were out

980
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,840
doing like you know, calls and stuff, and I think

981
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,119
that also pised some people off.

982
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 3: We got we got shot. I remember that that gunshot.

983
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,599
That dude came out of his house and shot his rifle.

984
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,000
We were hiding on the road, hiding out when cars

985
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:39,199
went by, I remember, and then that guy fired up

986
00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:40,639
and he didn't try to hit us. He just fired

987
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,599
up there there where we were. And then we were

988
00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:45,840
in the helicopter. I remember at one point that you

989
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,519
were turned around filming us or something. Yeah, I was

990
00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:51,920
looking out and he turned out. He went through on

991
00:41:52,199 --> 00:41:55,000
the spotlight to see where he was, and there was

992
00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:56,960
a couple of dudes came out with rifles and one

993
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,719
of the guys was pointing it out the helicopter. He

994
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,639
just like pulled the stick away and like we just

995
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,119
veer it off. And that was pretty nuts.

996
00:42:03,519 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I know we talked to some people the

997
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,599
next day. They're like, oh, yeah, good, there are a

998
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:09,440
lot of people out there. That have rifles trained on

999
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,760
the helicopter because they thought they thought we were you know,

1000
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,199
DA or something. Yeah, we have that whole episode because

1001
00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:17,719
you know, again we have a caravan of cars and

1002
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,360
a black car as a U hole that has all

1003
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,039
of our gear in it. And from what I've learned

1004
00:42:23,079 --> 00:42:25,360
later and Bobby, you guys know that already do is

1005
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,199
that's what when they do drug raids they could they

1006
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,159
show up in black as SUVs and then they have

1007
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,559
a truck to pull all the plants out of there.

1008
00:42:33,039 --> 00:42:34,840
And so we were driving to a spot and I'm

1009
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,199
sure you guys remember this. By car is passing us

1010
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,199
on the right just because they think we're doing And

1011
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,000
then the lady blocked the driveway that she thought we

1012
00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:44,880
were going to like to raise her farm.

1013
00:42:45,679 --> 00:42:49,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there was another time, maybe in Tennessee. I

1014
00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:51,800
can't remember where, maybe Chad, I think you were there.

1015
00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:55,119
The lady came out, well not not the witch.

1016
00:42:57,079 --> 00:42:58,599
Speaker 3: We pulled up on a driveway in the daylight.

1017
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was sort of hag you know like that

1018
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:04,480
she came out of she had I remember this one.

1019
00:43:04,599 --> 00:43:08,159
Speaker 1: And again, like my belief in paranormal was very shaky,

1020
00:43:08,519 --> 00:43:10,599
but this lake came out and she had black eyes.

1021
00:43:10,639 --> 00:43:12,199
Speaker 4: That's all I remember. And I'm like, guys, go go

1022
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:12,880
get out of here.

1023
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 3: That's something I'm talking about about one. I'm talking about

1024
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,280
the one clips about where she had a forty four bag.

1025
00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:17,920
There you go.

1026
00:43:18,119 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, she had sort of on that one. That was

1027
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,599
Eric Weiningery. He told me about it. Yeah, but go ahead,

1028
00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:23,119
it's so sorry.

1029
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:25,519
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we just rolled up in some driveway and

1030
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,920
like the turnaround or something like that, and somebody came

1031
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,880
out with a handgun. It looked like some sort of

1032
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,760
glock or something like that. I don't know what it was,

1033
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,119
but it was a.

1034
00:43:33,159 --> 00:43:35,199
Speaker 3: Forty four bag or a forty one mag It was

1035
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:36,599
a big revolver, Like.

1036
00:43:36,679 --> 00:43:38,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was in the back seat.

1037
00:43:38,119 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 3: Man.

1038
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,039
Speaker 2: All I know is like I just started saying, he's

1039
00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:41,519
got a gun, got a gun. Guns to get out

1040
00:43:41,519 --> 00:43:42,079
of here, Get out.

1041
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,519
Speaker 1: Of here, and like it was a pretty stressful moment.

1042
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:45,920
I guess.

1043
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cliff got really nervous on that one. I'm like,

1044
00:43:48,639 --> 00:43:50,159
she's not gonna shoot us in broad day light, but

1045
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,079
she looked like she might have actually.

1046
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,679
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, And then we had the guys in

1047
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,519
Louisiana and who were hoaxing us like they were obviously

1048
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:01,360
like this. The the younger guys that they knew were

1049
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:02,920
they knew, they found out what area there, and they

1050
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,280
started coming out and hoped and and Matt got but

1051
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,360
then I got really mad. He wasn't go. He wanted

1052
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,760
to go talk to them. I'm like, man, here they

1053
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,039
have baseball bats. We hear the beating trees. Like I

1054
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:16,000
remember was going like that, you're gonna get hurt here that.

1055
00:44:16,519 --> 00:44:19,559
I was like, What's what's my responsibility here? And I'm like,

1056
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:21,320
I guess I gotta get beat up too. So I'm like,

1057
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,239
let's go mad. I'm like, I'm just trying to talk

1058
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,480
about it. But I also know I can't let him

1059
00:44:25,519 --> 00:44:26,119
go by himself.

1060
00:44:26,599 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 3: I was telling he's an idiot, but I was telling him, like, dude,

1061
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:33,480
let him go, Like like, if you go, then I

1062
00:44:33,559 --> 00:44:33,840
have to go.

1063
00:44:34,039 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 2: So like.

1064
00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:39,039
Speaker 3: Twenty guys with baseball bats, drunk hillbillies in the woods?

1065
00:44:40,039 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: How many times do you think that happened that over

1066
00:44:42,119 --> 00:44:46,719
the course of our shows that are our location was infiltrated?

1067
00:44:47,039 --> 00:44:49,039
Speaker 1: See that that was the main one I know of.

1068
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 4: Obviously a lot of people like we kept, you know,

1069
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,719
we kept very under wraps where we were going.

1070
00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: I remember in Minnesota we had to move because somebody

1071
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,599
was out there. I think it was the same night

1072
00:44:58,639 --> 00:45:00,559
that that producer got fired for from a Rock on

1073
00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:00,960
the ground.

1074
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that. Actually, that Minnesota one was kind

1075
00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:07,599
of funny episode too. The very first night we went out,

1076
00:45:08,199 --> 00:45:10,599
that was the first time I've ever heard a wolf. Yeah.

1077
00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1078
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,519
Speaker 4: Well, and then our camera guy we got quit and

1079
00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:15,760
he's like, I'm not going out there.

1080
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, that's like five miles away and it's

1081
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,519
a wolf and there's six of us, Like, when do

1082
00:45:20,519 --> 00:45:22,880
you think's gonna happen? But then try to think any

1083
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,679
other episodes I can think that I know, or I

1084
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,840
mean sometimes I don't think it was on purpose, you know,

1085
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,599
Like I know in Colorado, we were somewhere and we're like,

1086
00:45:31,679 --> 00:45:33,840
we're seeing something, like what is that? And then it

1087
00:45:34,039 --> 00:45:35,800
just happened to be campers. It wasn't like they were

1088
00:45:36,599 --> 00:45:39,320
they came out to do anything, but their lights were on,

1089
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,440
and I think we thought it could be like I

1090
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,320
don't know what we thought, but we just I remember

1091
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,760
that point. I'm like, hey, let's let's you get out

1092
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:49,480
of here. There's obviously people here. Oh, Indiana, Remember we

1093
00:45:49,559 --> 00:45:53,960
set up the dummy camp. Then we did that, but

1094
00:45:54,039 --> 00:45:55,800
then we were like what is that? There's people right there.

1095
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,239
So then we had to go and move and like

1096
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:58,960
we had like that was like we were husting and

1097
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,719
we're moving it right as fast as we can to

1098
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,320
get a to a different canyon because we had the

1099
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,760
mannequins and everything. And so I'm like running and I

1100
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,039
come across the corner and at the midt of a ground,

1101
00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:11,760
I see a guy kneeling, just just sitting by himself,

1102
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,239
kneeling with his head to the to the ground, and

1103
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,559
I'm like, this is a cult thing. I'm dead, Like

1104
00:46:16,639 --> 00:46:18,400
this is something I just ran into some sort of

1105
00:46:18,679 --> 00:46:23,320
weird cult. It was Tyler Bounds as a deer jumped

1106
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,639
out of nowhere and side this like t boat. He

1107
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:27,199
was hurt.

1108
00:46:27,559 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and of course you're carrying a mannequin.

1109
00:46:30,639 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: He probably saw me. He was like, oh, what the heck?

1110
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 2: Well, I love that because we had the camp set up,

1111
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,880
and then hikers walked by. We had an entire camp

1112
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,079
set up with mannequins and like in coolers and a

1113
00:46:42,199 --> 00:46:44,920
tent and a fed of fire going, and and then

1114
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,679
hikers come by and see a fully fledged tent or

1115
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,719
like a whole camp with mannequins.

1116
00:46:52,159 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: We had a freak a bunch of people out with

1117
00:46:53,519 --> 00:46:55,320
the cap we did because I mean, I know we've

1118
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:56,880
already told this story the last time, but like when

1119
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,639
we were in Connecticut and we had all the we

1120
00:46:58,679 --> 00:47:01,360
would do the thing with the with the toes. Oh,

1121
00:47:01,679 --> 00:47:04,400
Rhode Island, wasn't it land? Yeah, we're doing with the

1122
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,480
torches and there's a group of like eighty years who

1123
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,400
were lost and they see us and they see the

1124
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,920
torches and they go, oh no, he just turned around

1125
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,880
and drove off. And then yeah, those guys, I mean,

1126
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,480
how weird it be just walked by a camp full

1127
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:18,599
of a mannequins and everything.

1128
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,079
Speaker 2: Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bogo.

1129
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,079
Will be right back after these messages.

1130
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: Different there's a different show I was talking about, like

1131
00:47:35,039 --> 00:47:36,840
you know, coming across. I used to be a writer

1132
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,400
on the show called Scare Tactics. It was a prank

1133
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,320
show where you know, we put people in like these

1134
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,679
like almost a horror film scared things. But we had

1135
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,000
us up a new policy because a lot of times

1136
00:47:47,079 --> 00:47:49,599
people get so skipped they'd run. So we were doing

1137
00:47:49,639 --> 00:47:51,960
this kind of a cult thing and what we call

1138
00:47:52,039 --> 00:47:53,960
the marks. The person who was on, who was being

1139
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,760
the victim, took off running and then we go we

1140
00:47:58,039 --> 00:47:59,599
tried to running and grabbed up it before they you know,

1141
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,760
go too far, hurt themselves, and so a bunch of us, right,

1142
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,800
And so the person looks back and sees like twelve

1143
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,000
people chasing them. You can see, I'm more scared, runs

1144
00:48:08,039 --> 00:48:11,159
into a walkers, jumps behind the counter and hides through

1145
00:48:11,159 --> 00:48:14,599
at a new policy, if someone runs, only one person chases,

1146
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,679
because I can't if I already think someone's gonna kill me,

1147
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,800
and I look back and they yeah, twelve people chasing

1148
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:21,280
after me.

1149
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 2: It's the So at the end of the day, the

1150
00:48:26,519 --> 00:48:28,400
funny Bigfoot show kind of went off the air because

1151
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,880
the streaming became popular. I think, if I understand things,

1152
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:35,159
of course, you know, like we I think, you know,

1153
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,880
you're tired of it. You got like everyone I think

1154
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,000
he ran, of course, but part of that was also

1155
00:48:41,159 --> 00:48:43,400
just the advent of streaming and whatnot. And at the

1156
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,440
same time, and the show was always leave him wanting more, right,

1157
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:47,719
So I din't think it was a great time to

1158
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,559
go off the air. We had a wonderful run. I

1159
00:48:49,639 --> 00:48:51,480
met a lot of great friends. I met my wife,

1160
00:48:51,639 --> 00:48:54,639
my dog, et cetera. You know, everything's great about Finding Bigfoot,

1161
00:48:54,639 --> 00:48:55,920
and it went off the air at the right time,

1162
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,079
I think. And since that time, television general has been

1163
00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:03,199
a tumultuous area of working. I mean, you know more

1164
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,599
than anybody. But I know people on other TV shows.

1165
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:07,000
I don't know what they're cast members on some of

1166
00:49:07,039 --> 00:49:09,199
these other shows, and they all say, yeah, the money's

1167
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,239
not there. It's still hard work. There's there's there's hardly

1168
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,320
any budget for things and stuff. And so since that time,

1169
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,000
you've gotten out of the television game pretty much. I know,

1170
00:49:18,039 --> 00:49:19,480
you do a little side thing here and there, but

1171
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,360
you're actually starting a new avenue of employment for yourself.

1172
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:24,079
I have.

1173
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, So as you're saying, television to me, I I

1174
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,039
is basically no exist anymore.

1175
00:49:31,039 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 4: And also you know AI is going to be even

1176
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,960
more non existent, so I have.

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Speaker 1: I moved to Australia after I left television. I met

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a girl when I did one of the Shark shows

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and moved there. And when I was there, I I

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love iced tea and I noticed that there's no ic

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TA anywhere, and I can do so my girlfriend's like, well,

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why don't you make your own? And so I'm like,

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good ideas. So then I started taking these blending classes,

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so I learned how to blend te's and then that's

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where I came up with the idea of Strip Tea.

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So it's an iced tea company that's like just all

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natural stuff, only the good stuff, to strip down to

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what really matters. And so yeah, and then unfortunately my

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Beesa read out and heard I didn't. We broke up.

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So I came back to the stage, I moved back

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to Portland I'm from, and I decided to start it here.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so Strip Teas is a new by the way,

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it's a new venture. You're gonna get a handful of

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flavors off the ground here. You're gonna start appearing at

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farmers markets. I guess it's coming Wednesday, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So my first farmer's market is in Camas, Washington,

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this on Wednesday, June tenth, from two from three to seven.

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It's gonna be into little event space called Doestation three

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nine nine next to the Farmer's market. It's besides myself,

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Stripped Teas, I have four flavors. We got berry white,

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which is a strawberry blueberry white tea which is really

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like refreshing. We have Peach Please, which is green tea

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with peach. We got rose Hips Don't Lie, which is

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at biscus rose tea, which is really heart and then

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we have Rip City Roads, which is the black seed

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with some rose flavoring in it. That's sort of a

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nod to Portland. But besides me, there's also like jewelry, cookies, pastries, clothing,

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so there's something for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Well and whatever, whatever it's worth. I'm gonna be there.

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I'm gonna come down and help Chad set up. I'll

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be there for at least a couple hours, I think,

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So if you want to come down and say hi,

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I'd love to see anybody down there and come on

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down and give me a pigeon roll at some point

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fIF to show me remember.

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Speaker 1: Yes. So it's downtown Camus right there on the main

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strip three three nine Cedar Streets. This is my this

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is my first event. This has been a year in

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the making, so I'm getting I'm very excited.

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Speaker 3: I tried that very white. It was awesome. Dude, that's

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a bit. I'm not a big ice tea guy. And

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that was so good. It was my best I ever

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had for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I just said again there's no sugars in there,

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but like it's all fruit, Like the fruit is a sugar,

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I uh you know, just like just like my man

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Verry White. It's smooth and soulful, awesome, fantastic.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, cool Hammel. So that's chat Hammill formally

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a funding Bigfoot Now strip tease, So check that stuff out.

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Go to camus on the June tent check um out

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clip will be there and thanks for listening, joining us,

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and until next week, y'all keep it squatchy.

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