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Speaker 3: And what's that everyone, I'm here with the chumpster and
Speaker 3: there he is speaking dog language.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, my dog. Sorry, my dog's going a little crazy.
Speaker 1: It does look quick grow up on the screen, Matt,
Speaker 1: I'm still seeing the copyright disclaimer.
Speaker 3: That's very weird.
Speaker 1: We see us now, Yeah, I can see it now.
Speaker 5: Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: I had to restart Rumble like three or four times
Speaker 3: and get everything and redo it with Finser here sitting
Speaker 3: next to me, to get this thing to work and connect. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like even the banners, I have to redo all that crap,
Speaker 3: and yeah, it is what it is. But but the
Speaker 3: show must go on and to do We're gonna be
Speaker 3: something that I think, like we've we've reinforced several times.
Speaker 3: We've talked about different diseases. Hell, YouTube gave us a
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Speaker 3: it how to look for it testing, and we're going
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Speaker 3: some testing tonight because it's really really important. And with that,
Speaker 3: Chuck Chuck had a big move not too long ago
Speaker 3: and is running into some of the issues. So let's
Speaker 3: let's talk about it from from from A to Z
Speaker 3: kind of what you think it may have happened, could
Speaker 3: have happened, and maybe where we're at in the and
Speaker 3: where you take it from here.
Speaker 1: Do you want me to talk about hypothesis too, or
Speaker 1: just like just from the standpoint of like what I
Speaker 1: got going on, or I mean.
Speaker 3: Talk about all of it, some of the hypothesis bring in.
Speaker 5: I mean, all right, well, let's start again. Let's start
Speaker 5: at the beginning.
Speaker 1: For starters, this is a super hard conversation because not
Speaker 1: only do I feel like I'm letting some fans down,
Speaker 1: but I'm also letting myself down. You know, I've been
Speaker 1: gardening for you know straight, it's going on six years,
Speaker 1: like a year before COVID. Uh you know, I've been
Speaker 1: gardened since every day and uh, as I've told you
Speaker 1: this before, like the only time I've taken off in
Speaker 1: that time is literally been to see my dad a
Speaker 1: couple of times when I thought he's like basically about
Speaker 1: to die, and then uh, then to go see like
Speaker 1: H and l Earn and some of the guys like
Speaker 1: meetups a couple of times. And those are the only
Speaker 1: times I've ever ever taken off from the garden. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So my journey started off, you know, three almost four
Speaker 1: years ago. Uh as far as online, Uh, it's because
Speaker 1: I want to know answers and I wanted to know
Speaker 1: more about genetics.
Speaker 5: I wanted to know more about about breeding.
Speaker 1: I saw CSI on a panel on something and I
Speaker 1: really liked his vibe, you know as the kids say
Speaker 1: these days vibes. And I was like, man, like this
Speaker 1: dude's been farming, his family's been farming for years. He
Speaker 1: seems to know more about these older cuts that I'm
Speaker 1: interested in. My journey started off to find GDP. Matt
Speaker 1: honestly like, yeah, that's kind of where I started. Everybody
Speaker 1: has their plan that they start with ray and mine
Speaker 1: was GDP.
Speaker 5: And I was trying to find the real GDP, you know.
Speaker 1: And I'm just a fun fuck dude from you know,
Speaker 1: the South, you know, and I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: shit about genetics I grew up not knowing shit about
Speaker 1: gene ICs or having connects. Here.
Speaker 5: You just have flippers, dude, people just trying.
Speaker 1: To make a buck. You don't have people growing stuff
Speaker 1: like that all that, you know, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: But anyways, so I'm looking for knowledge. I'm buying seeds
Speaker 1: the best I can. You know, back before COVID, I
Speaker 1: didn't know ship. So I'm buying seeds through marijuana dot
Speaker 1: com or god damn it, you know.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying. We're not allowed to say that.
Speaker 1: Sorry, rumble not not not dot coms, but all right, Uh,
Speaker 1: so I'm buying random seeds.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Of course, back then, I'm a I'm I'm I grew
Speaker 1: up in the nineties. I'm born in eighty nine. So,
Speaker 1: like you know, the first thing I do is google
Speaker 1: you know, good good seeds, good genetics. You know, back
Speaker 1: before I had talked to anybody. I'm so, I was
Speaker 1: so nervous to talk to people, blah blah blah. But anyways,
Speaker 1: I find it leads me down to this rabbit hole.
Speaker 1: I get joining in the discord.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: At this point, I'm I'm growing doing my thing. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm fucking with some autos. I know, guys, shameful. I know,
Speaker 1: I'm you know, auto flowers whatever, fucking with that ship.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And I and I joined the discord and I started learning.
Speaker 1: I joined breeders, syndicate with you guys and start learning
Speaker 1: about ship. Uh.
Speaker 5: And then eventually, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You guys like me, I guess or I sucked enough, dick,
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of guys hooked me up with
Speaker 1: some cuts. Yeah, some pretty big deal cuts, and guys
Speaker 1: to take this with the green of salt. This has
Speaker 1: been proposed before if you go back and look on
Speaker 1: the forums and stuff like that. But I don't know
Speaker 1: how to really start this because so I brought in
Speaker 1: East Coast Our Diesel D shore Line ninety one dog
Speaker 1: D Kim dog D sorry yeah, and a few others.
Speaker 1: At that point, I had brought in two other cuts
Speaker 1: from up there locally in Michigan, literally like two weeks
Speaker 1: before I got the legacy or the older cuts like
Speaker 1: the kim D and the ninety one right up at
Speaker 1: there this point, I had never really seen variegation or
Speaker 1: what we call variegation in that you know, in our
Speaker 1: crew or group whatever. I had never really seen the
Speaker 1: variegated plans before you know. That being said, I'm running
Speaker 1: maybe three four by fours, you know, for maybe two
Speaker 1: to three years leading up to that point. So it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm growing plants, but I'm not growing plants,
Speaker 1: you know, like like I was up North and Michigan.
Speaker 1: But so that being said, I take in those cuts,
Speaker 1: and I just started. I do what everybody does, right,
Speaker 1: I think to myself, you know, do I want to
Speaker 1: take first of all? I thought for a long time,
Speaker 1: do I want to take in cuts? Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, like, dude, kim d this is
Speaker 1: a once in a lifetime opportunity.
Speaker 5: I don't have cuts already.
Speaker 1: So like if something comes out of these cuts and stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, or problems happen, it's whatever. You know, I
Speaker 1: was probably see, I got a bunch of seed. I'm
Speaker 1: a seed guy. I was a sea gup until this point.
Speaker 1: But I wanted to experience those cuts like most of
Speaker 1: us do. Most people join the communities to get those cuts.
Speaker 1: You know, they want to see them. And I don't
Speaker 1: blame them. Everybody yea, and their mom is you know,
Speaker 1: wanting to talk about those cuts, and you know, the
Speaker 1: East Coast of ninety one and the d at least
Speaker 1: the cuts that I have Variegate. You know, Uh my,
Speaker 1: my variegation is very modeled, dude, it's like super modeled.
Speaker 1: People will say, you know, you're low on caw mag,
Speaker 1: you're low on calcium ship like that. I'm fucking giving
Speaker 1: them dry amendments. I'm doing basalt rock gusts. I'm doing
Speaker 1: fucking caw mag. I'm doing fox farm ocean soil. So
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I'm not running under hps. I'm
Speaker 1: doing LEDs. So maybe that's another thing. When I put
Speaker 1: them outside, they do green up. Like I know, we've
Speaker 1: talked about this before, and we've talked you've talked about
Speaker 1: it on the show before that a lot of times
Speaker 1: people do associate that variegation with the Kim d and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, with the scump gun net, And that's
Speaker 1: that's what I was told, right. I'm a nubie.
Speaker 5: I tell people, and I don't hide it. I don't
Speaker 5: think I'm an expert.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I only go off what you know,
Speaker 1: the people I look up to or taught me. You know,
Speaker 1: like I said before, I'm not I didn't come up
Speaker 1: in the weed world, I came up as a basically
Speaker 1: like a pack flipper, if you want to call it,
Speaker 1: a glorified middleman basically, So like, I don't know shit,
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm just you know, if you guys say, yo,
Speaker 1: this planet barrigates, this planet shows this, Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust you guys. You guys have had these cuts.
Speaker 1: Some of y'all have range of twenty some years or so,
Speaker 1: you know, and there's proof lead and no way back
Speaker 1: to two thousand and seven, two thousand and nine on
Speaker 1: the forums. You know, you can go back and look
Speaker 1: with some of these guys. So, like, there's no reason
Speaker 1: for me not to trust some of them. And it's
Speaker 1: not that I don't trust, but I try to trust
Speaker 1: your opinions, you know. Yeah, So as I'm taking in cuts,
Speaker 1: I'm growing those cuts out, get go through a harvest.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm noticing.
Speaker 1: And like obviously it's no secret the D the East
Speaker 1: Coast and these other cuts are harder to run, harder
Speaker 1: to root. U when you're whether they're it's the kim
Speaker 1: D and it wants to throw you know, fucking throw
Speaker 1: uh snanners at the end, or if it's the kim
Speaker 1: D and you try to reverse it and it doesn't reverse.
Speaker 1: There's a there's all these fucking things wrong with these plants,
Speaker 1: or at least they're so older. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: these cuts are old as shit, so they've been through
Speaker 1: a lot, they've been pa around a lot, so it's
Speaker 1: not like so crazy that they perform the way that
Speaker 1: they do or and some people have problems rooting them
Speaker 1: or whatever. You know. Yeah, that being said, I didn't
Speaker 1: notice that with the Shoreline, the Bubba or a few
Speaker 1: other ones. But I did notice that with the D.
Speaker 1: I noticed that with the East Coast. I noticed it
Speaker 1: with the ninety one in particular, when we're talking about
Speaker 1: like the variegation and stuff, right, yeah, or they're just
Speaker 1: the weird growth or the weird stuff. So I'm growing
Speaker 1: these stuff in mind you, I'm taking into other cuts too.
Speaker 1: So this is the big thing I've been going back
Speaker 1: and forth on for It's really been eating me up alive,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, And I've shared this with you,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure this with Screwston. But I didn't really
Speaker 1: notice any of these things or connect any of this
Speaker 1: stuff I'm about to talk about until literally the last
Speaker 1: month or two.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm growing out. Let's just say a lot
Speaker 5: of plants.
Speaker 1: I'm running, you know, I don't want to talk about
Speaker 1: it in that much detail, but enough that.
Speaker 5: Let's just say a bunch of newbies combined.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like just a lot enough, dude, You're right,
Speaker 1: So I'm going I'm growing out a lot of plants
Speaker 1: and flowering. I'm doing my thing. And I didn't put
Speaker 1: two and two together, but I did notice variegation on
Speaker 1: other cuts, but it wasn't that big of a deal.
Speaker 1: It'd be a leaf here at least there, right, and
Speaker 1: maybe on one or two plants.
Speaker 5: Everything's rocking out.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: The only things that are really giving me some problems.
Speaker 1: Are East Coast a little bit and the D particularly,
Speaker 1: you know, because they are difficult.
Speaker 5: It's just not just me.
Speaker 1: There's other people that got the cuts around the same
Speaker 1: time that have had problems with them as far as
Speaker 1: like trying to get the best out of them. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that being said, some of those folks have stepped up
Speaker 1: their game, and I personally think I've really leveled their
Speaker 1: game up with the D and stuff and really kind
Speaker 1: of brought them around. So I don't know, I'm not
Speaker 1: like shooting on anybody or not. I'm just kind of
Speaker 1: trying to break this all down to like what i've seen.
Speaker 1: So I'm noticing variegation on plan So I'm noting noticing
Speaker 1: some hooking on some leaves and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And when I say hook, I mean like not up
Speaker 1: and down like I mean like kind of like left
Speaker 1: and right. More deal. You know, I'm noticing this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. But I just, you know, I'm running a
Speaker 1: bunch of cuts. I'm running a lot of stuff that's
Speaker 1: got uh you know, the d in it or you
Speaker 1: know this kind of you know, so it's like not
Speaker 1: too out of the realm of like, oh well, I'll
Speaker 1: see it a little bit here there.
Speaker 5: There's got I see Pete.
Speaker 1: Plenty of people posting the forums, whether it's like appies
Speaker 1: or whatever, whatever genetics they're posting like, oh a little
Speaker 1: variegation or Kim dog d s one some CSI people
Speaker 1: post that you'll see the variegation or what we call
Speaker 1: variegation and that stuff. And that's what I'm saying, the
Speaker 1: same stuff. I'm seeing that similar stuff. I'm thinking to
Speaker 1: myself like, oh, you know, people see that kind of shit,
Speaker 1: it's just maybe a mutation, or maybe it's my feed,
Speaker 1: you know, or maybe I'm not giving enough count meg
Speaker 1: you know magnesium. Right, everybody says this ship so fast
Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm going through. I'm having great harvest.
Speaker 1: I'm on my second and third harvest on some of
Speaker 1: these cuts I brought in, and I'm going on to
Speaker 1: I'm actually in the middle of my East Coast salary.
Speaker 1: As a reversal, I got Paullen flying and I'm noticing
Speaker 1: I noticed a few more plants there that I had
Speaker 1: brought in recently, and as time goes on, I ended
Speaker 1: up having to move right the East coast. I do
Speaker 1: the reversal. Well, let me let me backtrack a little bit.
Speaker 1: I did that reversal. It was semi successful. You know.
Speaker 1: I didn't make a bunch of s ones. I literally
Speaker 1: got like fucking two good, healthy s one seeds out
Speaker 1: of that reversal to itself, and only one of them popped.
Speaker 1: I did run in. It was super similar to the
Speaker 1: cut blah blah blah whatever. That doesn't really matter. But
Speaker 1: in that reversal, I reversed the East coast onto some
Speaker 1: modern cuts and some old cuts that some of the
Speaker 1: old cuts were Bubba Shoreline was I think there was
Speaker 1: just that it for the old cuts and then for
Speaker 1: more than the modern cuts. It was like pure yeays
Speaker 1: might laugh, But I did the pink run. So I
Speaker 1: did a couple other things just to see what East
Speaker 1: Coast would do to some of the modern genetics. And
Speaker 1: I wanted to see, you know, everybody in their moms
Speaker 1: made the East Coast across, so some kind I wanted
Speaker 1: to see what they would do in the old genetics too,
Speaker 1: and just obviously hit it to the D right, like
Speaker 1: why not? Like that would be super cool, So I
Speaker 1: hit it to the D. Those offspring that I ran,
Speaker 1: none of the modern genetic crosses showed any of the variegation,
Speaker 1: but the Bubba the shoreline and really the D to
Speaker 1: the East Coast showed a ton.
Speaker 5: Of that variegation, like all of them basically showed it.
Speaker 1: One was extreme, and I didn't think much of it
Speaker 1: at the time, right because I'm like, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: that's right on track, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: you know, okay, sure, like oh you know the D's
Speaker 1: doing it.
Speaker 5: Of course that's doing it.
Speaker 1: You go back on the forums and you look, you
Speaker 1: can find pictures, like I said two thousand and seven,
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, of people that have the D
Speaker 1: cut looks just like my D cut. They have variegation.
Speaker 1: There's ranges of it. People have it worse, some people don't.
Speaker 1: And you know, we've talked about this before, Matt, like
Speaker 1: some guys on there swear up and down it didn't
Speaker 1: have it in the back in the day. Some people
Speaker 1: always had it. Uh, you know, I'm not here to
Speaker 1: argue whether it did. This is this.
Speaker 3: If it don't variegate, it ain't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And I'm not here to argue if it
Speaker 1: does or doesn't. I know my own garden. I'm not
Speaker 1: here to make any wide claims. I'm just literally saying
Speaker 1: something's going on here. Uh, And I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about it. And like I said before, this is pretty
Speaker 1: much a rap for me as far as like making
Speaker 1: seeds if I'm right on all this stuff. So this
Speaker 1: isn't like something that I'm making a joke about. Hence,
Speaker 1: while we're breaking a little bit of the fourth wall tonight, guys,
Speaker 1: you know, you're like more fun, but this is a
Speaker 1: pretty serious topic because it's, like like I said, this
Speaker 1: is uh, you know, We've talked about this before too, Matt.
Speaker 1: I don't make money from seeds. I've never made some
Speaker 1: money for seeds. So Sharon Genetics has always been away
Speaker 1: just to say thanks for watching, thanks for checking out
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. So like for me, it's like
Speaker 1: it's just put puts it in into all that if anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm jumping around to different stuff.
Speaker 5: But that being said, I'm not making this. This is
Speaker 5: a joke. I'm not making light of any of this stuff.
Speaker 1: So, uh, some after I do after I finished, literally
Speaker 1: after I finished that run three weeks, I have to move.
Speaker 5: So I dry, Uh I dry.
Speaker 1: I even did a I even had hit those plants
Speaker 1: with Paul as well. So like I had to wait
Speaker 1: for the siege to draw. Long story short, uh you know,
Speaker 1: and get I had to get get get going and
Speaker 1: get on the road. So I'm in a hurry. I'm
Speaker 1: in a hurried pack. I gotta get it. Was it what?
Speaker 5: Sorry, there's a long move shoot, Yeah, dude.
Speaker 1: Long ass fucking move ship to make Gabby look like
Speaker 1: a yeah, the Burger king Cup Adventures make it look
Speaker 1: like a joke. Guys. Yeah, Uh so I have to move, dude,
Speaker 1: and I don't really feel comfortable sharing.
Speaker 5: But I was just say, I have a lot of cuts,
Speaker 5: all right, yeah, uh so.
Speaker 1: I'm in a hurry, dude.
Speaker 3: At the time, you had a lot of cuts at
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at the time. Now yeah, yeah, now you know
Speaker 1: obviously now I'm burning everything now I'm just kidding.
Speaker 5: But but okay, let's be serious. But so I have
Speaker 5: to get these cuts home.
Speaker 1: So I don't know about you guys, but if you
Speaker 1: have to do a lot of cuts, say you had
Speaker 1: to do two days worth of cutting, all right, it's
Speaker 1: by yourself. You know, you're trying to be as as
Speaker 1: clean as possible because that's you know, that's all you got.
Speaker 1: I don't have six pairs of scissors like these big
Speaker 1: facilities and all this shit. I can't sit around waiting, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, dipping every fucking I mean, obviously I dip
Speaker 1: my scissors or my razor blades, and a lot of
Speaker 1: times I like to just use razor blades. I have
Speaker 1: a pack of these. I forget what brand they are,
Speaker 1: but then you just put out here there are right here.
Speaker 1: Actually they're the work Pro whatever hundred piece you push
Speaker 1: down and it pops a new one out. That's what
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm using those, and I'm wrapping all my snips.
Speaker 1: I'm doing snips obviously because when you have a large
Speaker 1: amount and I'm trying to get you know, so I
Speaker 1: own stuff anywhere. It's a fucking it's a joke. You're
Speaker 1: not that's not gonna unless you're liking Cali and you
Speaker 1: just don't give a fuck, and you can run a
Speaker 1: box truck and you gotta go down the street and
Speaker 1: you know you got homeboy next door that's willing to
Speaker 1: help you out, you know, because he's got his shit
Speaker 1: going on or whatever.
Speaker 5: But I don't have the luxury of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: It's just me basically my wife that helps me.
Speaker 1: Right, So I'm I'm taking snips, and normally when I
Speaker 1: do snips and cuttings, I do badges of ten twenty.
Speaker 1: That way, Cultivar is that way. I'm not obviously I'm
Speaker 1: taking multiple cuttings and snippings of each one. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that way, I'm not overloading myself. You know, it's a lot, dude,
Speaker 1: you're sitting there, which you're you know, it wears you
Speaker 1: out after a while, especial if you don't do it
Speaker 1: every fucking day all day long, and you're doing every
Speaker 1: couple of weeks and you got everything else going on.
Speaker 1: So take the snips, get them home, all right, start running,
Speaker 1: vegging stuff out, getting ready to flower again. Take a
Speaker 1: trip to Virginia, get kim ninety one, Shoreline fifty six,
Speaker 1: double dog Shit, and a few other cuts, all older cuts,
Speaker 1: all legacy cuts.
Speaker 5: And I was in a pickle except for double dog Shit.
Speaker 5: Well yeah, yeah, sorry, except for double dog Shit. I
Speaker 5: was in a pickle.
Speaker 1: And you know how it is, and you party all
Speaker 1: weekend and do shit, and six o'clock rolls around that
Speaker 1: Monday morning, you gotta leave, and everybody's in, you know,
Speaker 1: either hungover, don't want to do nothing. So I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I'll gaby it, bro, I'll put these, I'll
Speaker 1: take snips off these. I literally had a fucking water bottle, bro,
Speaker 1: This is how dire it is. I didn't have shit
Speaker 1: six o'clock in the morning. I had a water bottle,
Speaker 1: a regulars water bottle, fill up a solo cup. I
Speaker 1: put all those cuts in there, right. This is actually
Speaker 1: what prompted me to even kind of think about all
Speaker 1: this shit and kind of start looking at this.
Speaker 5: Bring those cuts home. It's been thirty.
Speaker 1: Days, like seven eight nine days, maybe two weeks after
Speaker 1: I brought those home, they were isolated. I noticed out
Speaker 1: of all those, I should only have ninety one showing
Speaker 1: some varrogation out of all those cuts. Yeah, obviously if they can,
Speaker 1: they can be sick, they're going through stress. I'm bringing
Speaker 1: them home. Obviously, maybe there's something else going on there,
Speaker 1: but I'm not one hundred percent sure, but I'm like
Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine percent sure. I'm seeing varrogation on
Speaker 1: three or two other cuts as well. Now from that match,
Speaker 1: which when I seen that, I was like, what the fuck,
Speaker 1: only one of these out of all these should be
Speaker 1: showing any kind of arrogation, right, yeah, so it would
Speaker 1: be ninety one ninety one, right, so I'm like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck? So in my mind, I'm looking at this
Speaker 1: like I'm thinking back, like I've seen this varrogation before
Speaker 1: obviously on the d I've seen it on the East
Speaker 1: coast ninety one in a little bit, and then I'm
Speaker 1: you know, on a few other things, and and and
Speaker 1: it's kind of going back to back, you know, around
Speaker 1: Christmas when I was seeing some of these other things
Speaker 1: and on other plants. Uh at this point, nothing was
Speaker 1: really affected, you know, yield wise or nothing that I
Speaker 1: could tell. Everything seemed fun and obviously the d runs
Speaker 1: with variegation like people have running people still do it.
Speaker 1: I have a theory on while something that's working out
Speaker 1: for people in Cocoa. I'm probably it probably doesn't mean
Speaker 1: ship and not just bro science. But anyways, we'll get
Speaker 1: in that later. But so I'm looking at those cuts,
Speaker 1: like I said, and I'm like, what the fuck man
Speaker 1: and my d I had two d's, I have two
Speaker 1: d's pause, i have two Kim Dog Kim Dog d's running.
Speaker 5: And I'm on top of their potting. Like I said,
Speaker 5: I'm also doing.
Speaker 3: Dries or just two different cuts.
Speaker 1: The same cuts, same cuts, but two different plants, right,
Speaker 1: and the variegation is vastly different on them. It's wild
Speaker 1: like one is dark green with modeling and then one
Speaker 1: is like literally like almost like a pale paler green
Speaker 1: with modeling. And but they're healthiest can be like I mean,
Speaker 1: I could show I've showed pictures to you and they
Speaker 1: look fine, they're growing. You know, There's so many things
Speaker 1: I could jump into on this conversation.
Speaker 5: So I'm looking at that. I'm like why is the
Speaker 5: variegation so intense?
Speaker 1: I literally, under the same light, the same nutrients, the
Speaker 1: same soil, everything's different. The only thing different it's a
Speaker 1: different location. Obviously that can be a factor too, right,
Speaker 1: But as I'm going over this last month, I'm seeing
Speaker 1: the variegation pop up in other genetics and mind you,
Speaker 1: genetics that I pop from seed that happen to do
Speaker 1: with me or those cuts. One of them was some
Speaker 1: of the what it doesn't really matter, long story short,
Speaker 1: I popped a bunch of seeds from other people. I
Speaker 1: have cuts, I do, you know what I mean? So
Speaker 1: I've popped seeds in the last few months that I
Speaker 1: haven't taking cuttings of yet that haven't necessarily been isolated,
Speaker 1: but have not touched the other plants, and when I
Speaker 1: flipped them the flower recently, I'm seeing variegation on them.
Speaker 1: People will say, well, what if they got Kim Dall
Speaker 1: genetics and it's come to genetics and it's like they
Speaker 1: don't like some of these are really modern.
Speaker 3: And like I said, you do have to remember even
Speaker 3: in modern genetics, if it has Ogi Cush genetics in it,
Speaker 3: it's kind that variegation in it. And if it's cost
Speaker 3: as something else then also has even ogi christ genetics
Speaker 3: in it. That means it can double up and show up.
Speaker 3: It can, doesn't mean it always will.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, right, yeah, I think you know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of theories I got. You know, obviously a lot
Speaker 1: of people might be shocked at this and not know this,
Speaker 1: but you know, some of these viruses that are out
Speaker 1: there can be in pollen. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: a coincidence. After I did my East Coast for a reversal,
Speaker 1: you know, I literally have East Coast pollen flying fucking
Speaker 1: everywhere for a month and a half onto everything, just
Speaker 1: because you know, you know it is when you're doing
Speaker 1: a reversal, dude, You're you're I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: about y'all, but like I'm trying to make sure I'm
Speaker 1: getting a good pollination, dude. So it's like I'm letting
Speaker 1: it rip, dude. And a lot of times when I
Speaker 1: do a pollination, it's four months six months in between,
Speaker 1: so I don't have to worry, you know, to do
Speaker 1: the best I can to clean up and give it
Speaker 1: time and then I'll let it rip again. And the
Speaker 1: way I like to do it is I like to
Speaker 1: let it rip on everything, and I was like, why
Speaker 1: not where I'm Another thing is when I moved, like
Speaker 1: I said, a bit of a rushing, uh you know,
Speaker 1: swamping razor blades. But you know, I went from doing
Speaker 1: this amount to a large amount in a day. So like,
Speaker 1: obviously there's a bit of frustration. Laziness, lacks of being,
Speaker 1: lacks of daisical probably as a factor, you know. And
Speaker 1: two and when you're trying for speed, you know, SAPs
Speaker 1: going everywhere. You know, even though you can't see what
Speaker 1: you're eye, but that shit's going everywhere. Brouh And I
Speaker 1: would say that probably my cleanliness would would have dove
Speaker 1: pretty hard during that time, whether it was maybe not
Speaker 1: necessarily on the cuts themselves, but say like I accidentally
Speaker 1: grabbed a tray that I had already used and for
Speaker 1: didn't bleach, you know, cause it's dude, when you're moving
Speaker 1: and you're trying to take cuttings and you got a girlfriend,
Speaker 1: you got all this other stuff going on.
Speaker 5: Look, it's a lot.
Speaker 1: Uh, get back home. I'm seeing variegation on multiple plants,
Speaker 1: modern genetics, wader and cuts, older cuts. I think I'm
Speaker 1: up to like thirteen that I've counted on in the
Speaker 1: last few months. And when I brought that shit home,
Speaker 1: did I brought it all home in the same box,
Speaker 1: you know, Like what can you do? Like you know,
Speaker 1: when you're driving shit home, Like I can't break this
Speaker 1: shit down, and like I don't want to go into
Speaker 1: the details of a lot of this stuff, but yeah,
Speaker 1: like it's just my situation called for that, Like it's
Speaker 1: just my only option. And like when you're doing about
Speaker 1: when you're talking about that, like I'm the type of
Speaker 1: guy I don't give a fuck. I'll throw every goddamn
Speaker 1: cut I have a way and go back to popping seeds,
Speaker 1: like I know I can find I'm literally running auto
Speaker 1: flowers that I you know, people will laugh at it,
Speaker 1: but it's like, you know, I'll just go back to
Speaker 1: popping autos or whatever in the meantime until I get
Speaker 1: my shit clean and do my shit.
Speaker 5: Like it's not a big deal, bro.
Speaker 1: Like so for me, uh, as I'm going through these, man,
Speaker 1: I'm having conversations.
Speaker 5: With you and a couple of guys.
Speaker 1: I'm diving back in the forums, you know, and we've.
Speaker 5: Talked about this too. It's like it feels super weird.
Speaker 1: I go back and I see a post from two
Speaker 1: thousand and nine guys talking about Yo, I've had this
Speaker 1: d cut for you know, three years now, and I
Speaker 1: swear it's getting worse.
Speaker 5: The varrogation is getting worse, like it's read to other.
Speaker 1: Plants like all this crap. And then, of course we've
Speaker 1: talked about this before. When you're looking at some of
Speaker 1: those old posts, like you got to take it with
Speaker 1: a grain of salt, because like there's so much bro sign,
Speaker 1: so much bullshit that nobody all bullshit.
Speaker 3: Well it was all bro science. I shouldn't say it
Speaker 3: was all bullshit, but a lot.
Speaker 1: Of science pro science. And you know, it's just odd
Speaker 1: to me that someone seventeen years ago, you know, or
Speaker 1: whatever it is it's been it has the same exact
Speaker 1: problem noticing the same thing as me. So as I'm
Speaker 1: as I'm going through some of these plants, Yeah, like
Speaker 1: I said, I'm seeing variegation on playing I've ran before
Speaker 1: that didn't show it right, that had good harvests, that
Speaker 1: yielded great, And now like there's plants that I see
Speaker 1: the variegation on that seem to be suffering, you know,
Speaker 1: And when I'm I'm popping seeds I made last year
Speaker 1: or three years ago, two three years ago. I don't
Speaker 1: see the ship on those, and those those are isolated
Speaker 1: by themselves, and I'm not seeing any of these variegations
Speaker 1: or these hooked leafs. You know, something, as I've been researching,
Speaker 1: you know, something that popped my interest as a tomato
Speaker 1: mosaic virus. And I showed you a picture of what
Speaker 1: I saw, and it could just be a stock photo, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it looks similar to the D and the kim
Speaker 1: D in a lot of ways. The actual stock or
Speaker 1: the picture that they have, and that variegation that's on
Speaker 1: there looks exactly like what I got.
Speaker 5: Going on on my D, on my depots. You know,
Speaker 5: when you look.
Speaker 1: Back on the forums testing wise, no one talks about
Speaker 1: like TMV much. They do a little bit, but they
Speaker 1: don't talk about like how there's twenty different variations of it,
Speaker 1: whether it's a mosaic, yeah, a mosaic, whether it's tobacco,
Speaker 1: whether it's everyone.
Speaker 3: Was linking it to tobacco mosaic. I don't remember anyone
Speaker 3: mentioning ever tomato mosaic or any other kind of mosaics
Speaker 3: constantly linking it to TMV at the time. During all
Speaker 3: this was going on I was on the forums and
Speaker 3: having these arguments with people and going through the papers
Speaker 3: and going through the papers. At the time, the only
Speaker 3: time it had ever been seen was in hemp once
Speaker 3: or I'm sorry, hops once, and that was what people
Speaker 3: were using to conclude that, Ah, this variegation in keim
Speaker 3: dog is definitely hemv That's where that's where that came from,
Speaker 3: was because of a HOPS test a long time ago.
Speaker 3: Whether it shows up in cannabis, it may actually show
Speaker 3: up in cannabis for sure, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 3: variegation is hard because it's in every kind of plant. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it'll show. It's not necessarily a disease. It's a mutation,
Speaker 3: a genetic mutation. But unfortunately tobacco mosaic virus, that's part
Speaker 3: of what it looks like. And in tomato mosaic I'm
Speaker 3: looking at a picture right now, and I would identify
Speaker 3: that a variegation obviously before tomato mosaic, But once you
Speaker 3: see the fruits, that's when you really get to see it.
Speaker 3: In the leaves, how the leaves curl and the curling
Speaker 3: on the edges. For like tomato mosaic virus, that's very evident.
Speaker 3: But in tomatoes, but I'm not sure about in cannabis
Speaker 3: or him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a theory, Like you know, these viruses,
Speaker 1: they they often like say, for example, the those most eggs.
Speaker 1: A lot of times they are not affecting a whole
Speaker 1: lot maybe until later on. Or what they are affecting
Speaker 1: is like your yield. You're you're like your actual tricome fordug. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know the way it grows a lot of the times.
Speaker 1: You know, I've talked about this too with screws, Like
Speaker 1: most of your average grower bro out there might pop
Speaker 1: a seed, but I can't tell you how many times
Speaker 1: I see him like, man, I wish I kept a
Speaker 1: cut of that, and they keep it moving right when
Speaker 1: you're talking about like Kim Dogg or East Coast, you know.
Speaker 1: And here's something I was thinking about last night. If
Speaker 1: I would have got a cut of the cut of
Speaker 1: the cut.
Speaker 5: Do you see what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: The person I got the cut from would have got
Speaker 1: the cut from the ridge from the cut, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. So like I don't know
Speaker 1: a lot about this shit. I'm just learning now.
Speaker 5: So like viral loldwise depending and we've talked about this
Speaker 5: on the phone and stuff. The viral virus can be
Speaker 5: in different areas of the plant and not show up
Speaker 5: in certain areas others. So if for I was thinking
Speaker 5: maybe on why my variegation does look so different, it
Speaker 5: could be LEDs could be what I'm veting them, but
Speaker 5: it could be too.
Speaker 1: If you look into some of tissue culturing with their
Speaker 1: variegation or mutations, a lot of times it comes into
Speaker 1: play if they don't take the marestem uh and they
Speaker 1: take side shoots in TC. Yeah, no prop they call
Speaker 1: it if you if you take the if you're taking
Speaker 1: shoots from the like the lateral in side shoots from that.
Speaker 1: Almost there's a plant and I forget which one it
Speaker 1: is in particular, but there's like over sixty different mutations
Speaker 1: in color. It's one of those all bino like anu
Speaker 1: bus nanas or something like that, or one of those
Speaker 1: types of plants plant.
Speaker 5: And every single variegation that it has comes from that
Speaker 5: original variegation and it's happened from TC.
Speaker 1: This is what they're saying. So something I thought about
Speaker 1: was if I got a cut of a cut of
Speaker 1: a cut, you know what I mean, Like it's kind
Speaker 1: of like there's something maybe something to that. You know,
Speaker 1: this is all theory and I'm just kind of just
Speaker 1: guessing and trying to probably probably put pulling strings together
Speaker 1: where they shouldn't be. But something I was gonna get
Speaker 1: that with that was, you know a lot of these
Speaker 1: guys that run the kim d or the s ones
Speaker 1: and stuff, a lot of people come back like, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of let down from some of these genetics. You know,
Speaker 1: uh some and and and these viruses they affect them
Speaker 1: in that way. If you look at the kim dog
Speaker 1: in the way she grows, and if you look at
Speaker 1: some of these positive identifications on some of these viruses,
Speaker 1: she looks just like the way they grow on the
Speaker 1: ones they inoculated versus the ones they did. And now
Speaker 1: that being said, like you know, we need to get
Speaker 1: some kind of positive I did. I did. Let me
Speaker 1: let me make say this I did. I do. Have
Speaker 1: tests on the way from multiple different places. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: run definitely farm free. I got farmer Freeman. Make sure
Speaker 1: you use the code. Uh, I'm gonna got them. I
Speaker 1: got a test going to him and a couple other people.
Speaker 1: And then I'm running Tomato, then the tobacco HLV are
Speaker 1: you gonna do cryptic cryptic.
Speaker 5: It's all it's in all that.
Speaker 3: Knowing that that's circulating and it really is only popped
Speaker 3: up twice now in the community, but that if it's
Speaker 3: popped up twice, that's it quickly goes from two to
Speaker 3: fucking one hundred, especially if it's a cut that's passed
Speaker 3: and spread.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So like I could be just like on some
Speaker 1: weird shit, dude, and like you know, put into maybe
Speaker 1: I just like had a bad run and you know whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, because we all have those. But like as
Speaker 1: I'm going, I'm just seeing like stuff I don't like.
Speaker 1: And like you said, variegation can pass up or past
Speaker 1: or come out in plants, you know, but.
Speaker 3: Not just variegation, but like specifically on cuts like triangle,
Speaker 3: you'll notice that every once in a while you'll get
Speaker 3: a leaf, a fan leaf that has four blades and
Speaker 3: the last blade is a thumb and it's hooked. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that's a trait that passes through triangle through O
Speaker 3: G and different OG hybrids that the variegation can also
Speaker 3: pop up in triangle. It looks a little bit different
Speaker 3: than you would expect in like the keems looks more
Speaker 3: like watercolor when it shows up on the leaves as
Speaker 3: opposed to hard variegation. But as far as I know,
Speaker 3: it's not a disease. That's all genetics based. However, you know,
Speaker 3: talking with other breeders over time trying to figure this
Speaker 3: shit out over the ears, it does seem that the
Speaker 3: more variegation you're seeing usually it relates to the health
Speaker 3: of the plant. But not always, but usually the more
Speaker 3: variegation you're seeing in the d there's something that it's
Speaker 3: not liking whatever, whatever it could be. It could be
Speaker 3: fucking temperature, could be too much humidity, it could be
Speaker 3: any number of things. Doesn't necessarily mean, you know, you
Speaker 3: need more nitrogen.
Speaker 1: Or coalmag what have you.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's hard not to make these certain connections
Speaker 3: when you see all this going on and you see
Speaker 3: it right in front of you. Yeah, and there's certain
Speaker 3: connections that I've made that people disagree with. And then
Speaker 3: there's certain people you know, like that are responsible for
Speaker 3: certain clones making claims that like, Okay, we weren't there
Speaker 3: for it. He was the only dude there for it,
Speaker 3: And a really nice answer would be cool shout out
Speaker 3: to Cody. We're gonna finish off the giveaways hopefully this weekend.
Speaker 3: Buddy's Code a dollar shout out.
Speaker 1: He said, Hi, Chucky, Yeah, so where were we at here? Matt,
Speaker 1: uh Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: It's it's one of those things where it's like it's
Speaker 3: hard to start when you have a room already full
Speaker 3: of a bunch of different clones and working your way back.
Speaker 3: That's where it's it's real hard. And that's where it's
Speaker 3: going to lie on different friends, different people you got
Speaker 3: them from, if they still have them, if they can
Speaker 3: test them as well, you know, test the root testing.
Speaker 1: It blows my mind that these cuts have been around
Speaker 1: for so long, dude, and I literally couldn't find a
Speaker 1: single person out inside the one dude. You said that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like yeah, I sent it off for testing, like you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: like or like any of those cuts. So it's just
Speaker 1: like I'm just gonna do it in to see because
Speaker 1: like obviously, like you know, I could be jumping to
Speaker 1: conclusions and I'm fine with that. I'm not. I don't
Speaker 1: give a fuck if I'm wrong, Matt. You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's it.
Speaker 3: That's the beauty of being able to be wrong.
Speaker 5: It's part of it.
Speaker 1: It's like I don't but it's like I just don't
Speaker 1: understand why other people haven't thought to at least try
Speaker 1: to send it off for testing. I know it's ships
Speaker 1: can be it could it can be expensive, but it's like, dude,
Speaker 1: like it's just worth this trying, and like I know,
Speaker 1: I want to be transparent. Like I've seen a few
Speaker 1: things on them literally today that makes me believe more
Speaker 1: on the side. And this is just my opinion. And
Speaker 1: today I've seen some things that you know, whether it's
Speaker 1: from the d whether it's something I brought in, Yeah,
Speaker 1: through the variegation. I've seen some variegation on some plants
Speaker 1: today that I don't like. And I actually pulled everything
Speaker 1: from my website and uh, guys, like I'm sorry, but
Speaker 1: like I don't ask me for seeds anymore or anything
Speaker 1: for a long time because like I just can't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't care enough about this shit to like be
Speaker 1: that guy to just not say nothing and to not
Speaker 1: uh do what's right. So for me, like in what
Speaker 1: my journey as far as like weed and cannabis isn't
Speaker 1: necessarily over, but as far as like what I'm doing
Speaker 1: and what I've been doing in the past few years,
Speaker 1: it's pretty much over. It's like really been sad, dude,
Speaker 1: and really depressing because it's like I put so much
Speaker 1: work into stuff, and uh yeah, it's it's a big,
Speaker 1: wide open it it's I'm glad it's happened now because
Speaker 1: uh uh you know, and this is could I could
Speaker 1: be just jumping to the gun, dude, and but like
Speaker 1: I personally have seen enough for me to to have
Speaker 1: my mind made up enough that I can't confidently say
Speaker 1: that it's not a virus.
Speaker 5: And I don't.
Speaker 1: Want you know, I don't want to and then that
Speaker 1: if anyone's gotten seeds through the Patreon in the last
Speaker 1: like three months or something, I wouldn't pop those seeds.
Speaker 5: I think anything before that's fine.
Speaker 1: I've been running shit I made last year and I'm
Speaker 1: not seeing that ship. It's literally all the stuff that
Speaker 1: I basically uh got home as snips that i'm seeing
Speaker 1: it on. Uh So, you know, if there's a couple
Speaker 1: of people I think that put in a few orders
Speaker 1: recently and we'll make we'll do something there.
Speaker 5: I don't know uh what we'll do on that this ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll figure something out for him.
Speaker 1: I got I think what I'm gonna I think what
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to do is try to marist
Speaker 1: them them and try to just get them clean, you know,
Speaker 1: and go from there. And then at that point, you know,
Speaker 1: if there's a couple of people that feel like they
Speaker 1: were old something, I'll make it right.
Speaker 3: Then.
Speaker 1: At this point, I don't really want to send anybody anything, because, dude,
Speaker 1: I've been doing some reading, man, Matt. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you guys out there have done some reading on
Speaker 1: some viruses, but you need to go fucking do it, dude,
Speaker 1: because it will scare the shit out of you. Dude,
Speaker 1: like you're talking about cucumbers, you're talking about tomatoes, you're
Speaker 1: talking about lettuce, you're talking about blunt raps, you're talking
Speaker 1: about cigarettes. You're talking about anyone that smokes cigarettes around you.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: If there, if these studies are right, dude, you're talking
Speaker 1: about like.
Speaker 3: Bud from the collective breaking it up fucking ten feet
Speaker 3: thirty feet from your fucking plant.
Speaker 1: Staff and sharing clone trays just like we all do
Speaker 1: because we're lazy and we don't have individual saucers, sharing
Speaker 1: condoms like some condoms.
Speaker 5: Sharing women like dude. So I'm just seeing the Variegarsen right.
Speaker 5: Mostly this is what I think I'm seeing.
Speaker 1: You know. The few other little things I think I
Speaker 1: saw could be other things. But like I just like, dude,
Speaker 1: i've been I'm new to this shit, so like no
Speaker 1: one I would I don't think anybody needs to take
Speaker 1: me that serious, but I I do.
Speaker 5: Some of these things are kind of weird, dude.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. And I would just like
Speaker 1: to like to do some testing and go from there
Speaker 1: because I just can't confidently move forward on anything knowing No,
Speaker 1: I just don't know. So it's like I can't really, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't move forward on some of this stuff. You know.
Speaker 1: I've been having so much fun, but yeah, So where
Speaker 1: we're at now, gonna be sending off some testing. Gonna
Speaker 1: be sending off the d the East coast for right now,
Speaker 1: and then some of the other tests I have the
Speaker 1: option to send in I think up to ten samples
Speaker 1: or ten different cultivars. So I'm gonna do some modern
Speaker 1: stuff and some of the older stuff just to see.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not expecting much from these, dude. I
Speaker 1: actually kind of am more curious about the tomato mosaic
Speaker 1: virus than any of them. I don't know, everyone I've
Speaker 1: talked to about this shit. When I show them that,
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, dude, that looks pretty familiar. It looks
Speaker 1: I would say, that's variegation of what I you know,
Speaker 1: what they when I when I see cannabis and say, well,
Speaker 1: I call variegation, that's what they'll say, Well, it looks
Speaker 1: like looks like the d you know, like you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it has been kind of crazy, man. Like it sucks
Speaker 1: because it's like, you know, like I said, I'm pretty
Speaker 1: much shutting shit down and I'm going to take everything
Speaker 1: down to basically just the legacy cuts. And then I
Speaker 1: thought about just ending it at all, dude, And but
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, like, why not try to t see
Speaker 1: this shit because it's like they're talking about some of
Speaker 1: the shit could stay in plant material like leaves on
Speaker 1: your floor for four weeks yeah, and then and some
Speaker 1: of these viruses can stay They're talking like up to
Speaker 1: two years. Some of them can survive thirty minutes of
Speaker 1: like one hundred and seventy degrees or more.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, like, dude, it's fucking nutty.
Speaker 1: Some of the studies show that I was reading, they
Speaker 1: didn't show they took as leaf sample that they thought
Speaker 1: was infected didn't show positive.
Speaker 5: But when they looked under the electronic was it like.
Speaker 1: A scanning microscope, Yeah, scanning microscope, they could see the
Speaker 1: actual virus in in the mosaic. Yeah, so it's like, dude. Also,
Speaker 1: something I didn't know is, guys, alcohol is probably not
Speaker 1: the answer for you, you really, dude, Like, no, you
Speaker 1: need to be using bleach.
Speaker 3: Like, uh bynoxide is a very very good one, uh like,
Speaker 3: and like when people use I always forget what the
Speaker 3: fucking name is, like the super version of it, but
Speaker 3: it's it's it's really expensive to clean your rooms with.
Speaker 3: I fucking forget. I've spilled it on my leg and
Speaker 3: it burned a hole in my leg once. But I
Speaker 3: learned that you can make it at your house using
Speaker 3: a simple ratio of vinegar to hydrogen peroxide, and it
Speaker 3: makes one of the best cleaners on earth.
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, it's not talked.
Speaker 3: About much though. It's weird.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, the the fucking the.
Speaker 1: Should I lost my train of thought there, Oh we
Speaker 1: were talking about Oh yeah, well some of these some
Speaker 1: of these fucking studies were talking about how the RNA
Speaker 1: would survive even through fucking bleach, and if people don't
Speaker 1: know what that is. I'm kind of new with some
Speaker 1: of this more heady science stuff, you know, but it's
Speaker 1: a code. Yeah, it's basically the DNA. It's a vital
Speaker 1: nucleic acid found in all every sales. It acts as
Speaker 1: a messenger carrying instructions from DNA to control the synthesis
Speaker 1: of proteins. While while DNA serves as the master blueprint,
Speaker 1: RNA X as the worker translating that blueprint into actual
Speaker 1: cellular functions. So what that means when the studies were
Speaker 1: talking about was alcohols ineffective and they were talking about
Speaker 1: how yeah you want that better shit. I forgot the
Speaker 1: name of it, but even bleach on some of these
Speaker 1: mosaics was ineffective. So it's like or shown that it
Speaker 1: could still transmit not all the time. They said that
Speaker 1: it's still important to use bleach obviously because it does
Speaker 1: limit it. And even but some of these study like
Speaker 1: when they're sharing, they were talking about you're sharing a
Speaker 1: plant or clones, ruded clones, soldo cups, whatever you want
Speaker 1: to call them, in trade, like a twenty percent trance
Speaker 1: to twenty percent roughly chance to transmit HLV, you know,
Speaker 1: So there was one.
Speaker 3: Factor, little factor factoid I was given within the past year.
Speaker 3: And you know, there I know some people that run
Speaker 3: some pretty big nurseries that with all they do is
Speaker 3: move clones legally obviously because they're bad. And you know,
Speaker 3: we're talking at least twenty thousand a week. And they
Speaker 3: were the ones that I knew pretty well documented doing
Speaker 3: the most testing for the most diseases on all their moms.
Speaker 3: And they were doing them once a month, repeatedly at
Speaker 3: different sites, so like they were trying to be as
Speaker 3: competitive as possible to keep this at a rate. And
Speaker 3: the best rate they found for outglowing outgoing clones with
Speaker 3: six percent, So the best nursery doing it in when
Speaker 3: I say nursery, I mean selling you know, one hundred
Speaker 3: varieties of clones. They're happy with six percent of them
Speaker 3: going out with HLV.
Speaker 1: That's that sounds about right, because the tissue culture labs
Speaker 1: that are houseplant related, they're looking for about three percent.
Speaker 1: Anything over that, dealing with a thousand cultivars becomes is
Speaker 1: a lot of plants and numbers that I know, three
Speaker 1: percent doesn't sound a lot, but when you're talking about
Speaker 1: you know that many plants, you know, outbreak of you know,
Speaker 1: power and mildew or something like that can fuck their ship.
Speaker 1: So they're looking for like three percent anything over that.
Speaker 1: It's when their shaite starts to get fucked. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds yeah, I dude. It made me realize that, like,
Speaker 1: if you're in at home Grower, bro, you're lucky. You
Speaker 1: need to take your shit down to maybe ten twenty
Speaker 1: at the max. Yeah, and that's all you could probably
Speaker 1: really forward driverage dude can really afford to test, dude.
Speaker 1: So like I don't know, like obviously, like I'm airing
Speaker 1: on the side of caution, dude, because I'm not making
Speaker 1: a buck off of like ninety nine percent of the shit
Speaker 1: I've done on the internet pertaining the cannabis. I didn't
Speaker 1: make no money off of it and I never probably will.
Speaker 1: So it's like I don't For me, it doesn't mean shit.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the support people rocked out with me and
Speaker 1: all that. I'm still gonna be making AI music, doing
Speaker 1: some videos and shit. But like as far as.
Speaker 3: Like Triangle King, Buddy, Triangle King on, I can't believe
Speaker 3: he has I actually watched that He's watched it more
Speaker 3: than a few times.
Speaker 1: Dude's blowing up on YouTube, it's got like six hundred
Speaker 1: views for a I bet it has.
Speaker 3: It's probably all him. He loves that shit.
Speaker 1: Eighteen plus all my all that shit's eighteen plus though
Speaker 1: they don't get views, you know, but for five I.
Speaker 3: Got a question, Yeah, is that your chick with you
Speaker 3: in the videos?
Speaker 1: Like she looks a lot like she's got That's.
Speaker 3: What I figured it would be, like an a version.
Speaker 1: Ever, she doesn't have purple hair anymore. But yeah, like
Speaker 1: when we first met, she had purple hair, and you know,
Speaker 1: I was making uh, you know, big bootied African women
Speaker 1: and stuff because that's what I was doing that for
Speaker 1: a while. And then I was like, why don't just
Speaker 1: put her in as an AI character too, because I
Speaker 1: kind of make myself a character, right to. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I just uh, you know, do my ship and
Speaker 1: a lot of times anyways, enough about that that ship anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm trying to think of him thinking I can
Speaker 1: remember anything about the Variegation ship, but I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't think so, dude. I did find uh, I.
Speaker 1: Did find all of that interesting, dude, and it made
Speaker 1: me uncomfortable enough that, yeah, like I don't really want
Speaker 1: to make anything else uh, and release it for a while,
Speaker 1: and so I figure out what that actually is and
Speaker 1: kind of have an answer. I don't know, I thought
Speaker 1: I told her. I was like, if anybody was to
Speaker 1: do it's me, Dude, I made this Kim Dog meme
Speaker 1: shit so much. Then it's like, it's like, dude, save me.
Speaker 1: I feel like, I swear it's speaking to me in
Speaker 1: my dreams, Matt. It's saying, Chuck, I'm sick, dog.
Speaker 3: I'm sick.
Speaker 1: Ever since they put a W on me, I've been
Speaker 1: sick dog. You know that was a problem.
Speaker 3: You know, that's where the variegation started with the W.
Speaker 1: The W. Well, here's the thing, too, is the coincidence
Speaker 1: that those cuts were obviously kept together. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you were anybody back in the day, you got the
Speaker 1: East Coast ninety one, you're keeping them together, right, You're
Speaker 1: hoaring them out, you're trapping.
Speaker 5: You know, you're making a dollar. You thought you want
Speaker 5: to be the next gump Va fam Do.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they all they also were carrying around stuff
Speaker 3: like this, the snow super snow Dog. What are some
Speaker 3: of the other stuff going around? Obviously diesel, there are
Speaker 3: some weird ones in there though, Dude, some weird weirdos
Speaker 3: in there didn't quite fit. Yeah, it slipped my mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, must ten percent, bleach fam. You can do twenty,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna burn your ass out of their brother.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, yeah, that's yeah. But yeah, if you're you're
Speaker 1: always shoot for the tempercent guys. But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I have much else to talk
Speaker 1: about it other than like like the cocoa theory and
Speaker 1: then like kind of like we're talking about with some
Speaker 1: of these viruses, they're gonna affect your yields and stuff,
Speaker 1: and like, you know, obviously like it's been thirty forty
Speaker 1: years some of these guys talking about oh back the
Speaker 1: other day mile weed.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the thing with some of those cuts, dude,
Speaker 1: if they are a virused out, bro, like you know,
Speaker 1: like that would make some sense a little bit on
Speaker 1: some of that shit.
Speaker 3: I feel like, to me, I feel like it doesn't
Speaker 3: even have to be taken that far. Ye, I feel
Speaker 3: like this is not this is not a cut, like
Speaker 3: cannabis isn't a is it annual or printing like it
Speaker 3: always gets too fit? Fucking Yeah, it's meant to live
Speaker 3: one life cycle. Yeah, that's how it's supposed to work,
Speaker 3: and drop seeds where it's at. We are keeping these
Speaker 3: things along thirty plus years. We should be happy to
Speaker 3: give them an end that they deserve, I think, and
Speaker 3: you know, I've been down on clones for quite a
Speaker 3: while for a lot of reasons. A lot of it
Speaker 3: was knowing behind the scenes what was going on with
Speaker 3: the nursery scene, knowing on knowing what was going on
Speaker 3: in a lot of greed friends rooms that people trusted
Speaker 3: and that you know, like that I'm close friends with,
Speaker 3: and actually knowing what was going on behind the scenes
Speaker 3: and what the mothers look like, how well taken care
Speaker 3: of they were. There was a lot weighing on me.
Speaker 3: And then when I I took my three year hiatus
Speaker 3: during the move and or two moves actually, and during
Speaker 3: that time, you know, like people were offering me back
Speaker 3: my cuts and this is at the height of like,
Speaker 3: you know, they're not people take in other cuts from
Speaker 3: other people too. So at that point I got to think, well,
Speaker 3: did this get crossed with this in the same trade
Speaker 3: and this, you know, so I've decided to you know,
Speaker 3: kind of kick back and work on my own stuff
Speaker 3: that I knew free a lot of these diseases being introduced,
Speaker 3: which luckily I was around before most of them were
Speaker 3: introduced and spread in mass. But saying that is is
Speaker 3: a hard thing because you never know when they truly
Speaker 3: popped up. You know, we may have been aware of
Speaker 3: them at some point and it made enough noise on
Speaker 3: the forums, but that shit might have been flight at
Speaker 3: floating around ten years before that, just in rumbles mumbles
Speaker 3: and you know, people talking to each other at the
Speaker 3: pro shop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, I think people need to realize
Speaker 1: how easy this shit can. You can get some of
Speaker 1: these viruses. Dude, you're gardening, bro, if you're going out
Speaker 1: and touching tomatoes, if you're going out and touching if
Speaker 1: you live next to this shit, bro, Like you need
Speaker 1: to be like the like reading this stuff.
Speaker 5: Like obviously we all know these things, right.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows to be sterile, everybody knows are as best
Speaker 1: you can be clean, as cleaning as you can. Uh.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like if you read into some of the shit,
Speaker 1: we will give you fucking nightmare, bro, cause you're talking
Speaker 1: about like just with mosaics alone, there's like twenty different
Speaker 1: ones Alfalfa cucumber, lettuce, uh, potato, tomato, tobacco. There's like, dude,
Speaker 1: it's endless. And when you think about that is it
Speaker 1: can live in material forever. Bro. And you go out,
Speaker 1: you got a homie working at your garden. It goes
Speaker 1: down a sandwich dog, there's got some lettuce. Oh you
Speaker 1: know he's fucking straight from the farmer's market.
Speaker 5: Fam Yeah, lettus.
Speaker 1: You know those who wash the hands. You go back in, Dude,
Speaker 1: Like he smokes a cigarette, you're smoking blunts in your rooms?
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, lots of people smoke cigarettes in their room,
Speaker 3: and they'll smoke joints in their room. Yeah, but I
Speaker 3: can countless. Like for me when from day one, I
Speaker 3: never smoked in my room because I had watched the thing,
Speaker 3: an old show where a person proved that you could
Speaker 3: take a plant of the same kind, burn it in
Speaker 3: front of another plant not attached to that same plant,
Speaker 3: and that plant will react negatively. So knowing that I
Speaker 3: never wanted just to smoke weed in a room with weed,
Speaker 3: it didn't make sense to me. If they're if that
Speaker 3: is a proven reaction, and it is, but then now
Speaker 3: to find out like just all this other shit, like
Speaker 3: that's just one thing that I saved myself, but I
Speaker 3: did use to smoke cigarettes.
Speaker 1: It'll be hanging aroun.
Speaker 3: I'm fucking that's taking cuts.
Speaker 5: Hey, there's another thing too.
Speaker 1: These studies are talking about all red They go these
Speaker 1: areas like in Michigan, fifteen different rex wis right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: sixty percent of all the stuff they sample to have HLV.
Speaker 1: You're out of bud. You got it. You're a small
Speaker 1: time girler. You got two tenents, you're out of bud.
Speaker 1: Say fucking I'm gonna go up to the rec shop,
Speaker 1: you brut like a one out of one and two,
Speaker 1: or like fifty percent chance you're gonna bring home some
Speaker 1: bud that has exactly there. If it lives through fucking
Speaker 1: being cooked at like one hundred and seventy degrees for
Speaker 1: thirty minutes, you think it's gonna die getting it back
Speaker 1: to your crib. And you're rolling up in the same trade.
Speaker 1: And then you go and you know you're on the
Speaker 1: you're on your on Live with your boy or whatever,
Speaker 1: talking to them or talking to them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you're in your grow room smoking, and you know.
Speaker 1: Like dude, like it's that easy, it's so crazy that
Speaker 1: it's just that easy. Like I didn't realize with some
Speaker 1: of these and how many there are because when you're
Speaker 1: like look into it, like we all know about tobacco,
Speaker 1: we all know about you know, cryptic, or we all
Speaker 1: know about HLV or you know, these basic things that
Speaker 1: everybody hears about. But there's there's way more than we're
Speaker 1: not talking There's way more out there that we're not
Speaker 1: talking about than the ship that there is that we
Speaker 1: are talking about, you know what I mean. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: some of the ship has been around the eighteen hundreds, bro.
Speaker 1: So to think that, like you know, we are all
Speaker 1: of our gardens are just magically immune to this. And
Speaker 1: when we talked about this before the podcast, like this
Speaker 1: is ships if that's if it's really like that, dude,
Speaker 1: it's inevitable. And the only thing I saw from the studies,
Speaker 1: if you do practice elimination over time, within a year
Speaker 1: two years, they do see it go down.
Speaker 5: You see the trades, you knock it out immediately. You
Speaker 5: isolate shit.
Speaker 1: If you're doing proper practices, there.
Speaker 5: Is so it's not like gloom and gloom. You just
Speaker 5: eliminate them, like.
Speaker 3: And it is very tedious, it's very expensive, very time consuming.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and mind you, this is stuff I'm reading
Speaker 1: out of papers and studies. I don't know shit, So like,
Speaker 1: what do I know?
Speaker 5: Really, this is what I'm reading from them.
Speaker 1: They they are saying they do through testing riguz testing
Speaker 1: that they did, they can tell basically damn near eliminated
Speaker 1: within like a year or two from their ship. Well
Speaker 1: or at least at least uh maybe still there but
Speaker 1: not showing, I guess. And obviously there's gonna be plants
Speaker 1: out there that are stronger and I do have immunity
Speaker 1: or maybe do have some kind of tolerance to it
Speaker 1: or resistance to it, I guess, or whatever you want
Speaker 1: to call it. Yeah, but you know, and some of
Speaker 1: those studies we're talking about, you know, uh, certain varieties
Speaker 1: are I don't know, we're getting into the weeds, I guess.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's kind of what I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about today, Matt. I don't though. There's a bunch of
Speaker 1: theories and hypothesis. I guess. You know, it's.
Speaker 3: Weird like shows like these, and granted we're on a
Speaker 3: Saturday night, it's an off night. But I've noticed every
Speaker 3: time when I've done interviews with people on HLV, like
Speaker 3: real scientists testing anything like that. Any shows we've done,
Speaker 3: we're bringing up papers. They are the least watch shows.
Speaker 1: Nobody can and it breaks my heart. Man, It's like
Speaker 1: me too.
Speaker 5: I literally told to do total to do about this,
Speaker 5: and I was like, he was like.
Speaker 1: Yo, you know, man, like when you share some buds
Speaker 1: and stuff sometimes and I'm like, dude, you don't understand. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not sending you a fucking bud. I'm not seeing
Speaker 1: you or meeting up with you or whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: doing a meeting. Yeah. Uh, you know what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say, I'm not doing anything.
Speaker 5: I followed the long guy, you know.
Speaker 1: And on top of that, I'm not trying to uh
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not trying to share this ship. If
Speaker 1: there is something going on, dude, I just want to
Speaker 1: know some stuff before I get back into that, if
Speaker 1: I ever even fucking do.
Speaker 5: At this point we've talked about this.
Speaker 1: This is so like for me, it sucks so bad
Speaker 1: that it's like on a level of I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I might supposed to.
Speaker 5: Move on and do something else with my wife.
Speaker 1: Dude, to be honest with you, yeah, uh you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna work on TC, you know, TC, and I'm
Speaker 1: and trying to fix the D and trying to fix
Speaker 1: I'm like, obviously I've talked to some of the other guys.
Speaker 1: If if it is the case that that is, and
Speaker 1: maybe they don't come back positive on these tests or
Speaker 1: it does. Whatever happens, obviously people are able to finish
Speaker 1: the D still with the variation, so it's not all
Speaker 1: a loss. It just means that at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, I can talk to an X, I can,
Speaker 1: you know, do all this stuff.
Speaker 5: But I can't do no meetups, Matt. I can't exactly
Speaker 5: someone else's mother room.
Speaker 1: I can't be in there whacking off with their clone jail.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I just can't visit. I can't do any of the ship.
Speaker 1: So I'm very isolated once again. Like and we're back
Speaker 1: to square one, you know, like we started off our
Speaker 1: journey Matt isolated doing uh some weird tests, doing some
Speaker 1: weird shit, I guess, and yeah, moving forward, just gonna
Speaker 1: try to t see some of these old things, do
Speaker 1: some Maristim research, and uh, everyone's like every want to
Speaker 1: talk to you, like it's gonna be hard, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it is gonna be fucking hard, but I'm still gonna
Speaker 1: try it, dude, What else can I do.
Speaker 5: At this point?
Speaker 3: Like do it all for the fucking d.
Speaker 1: I'm doing it for cam dog guys. I hold it
Speaker 1: all on the line. I don't give a shit, you know, fall.
Speaker 3: For the cam and it's all You're always gonna have
Speaker 3: uh variegation running in and out, so it's always gonna
Speaker 3: drive you nuts.
Speaker 5: Yeah, wouldn't it been some wild as ship though?
Speaker 1: If if I know it is supposedly P but I
Speaker 1: know we talked about this off and yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: supposedly there's people out there that have gotten a T
Speaker 1: seed and it's still held the variegation.
Speaker 3: But I forgot that. Then there was the actual name
Speaker 3: of the place. It was out of Colorado, began with
Speaker 3: the P. It wasn't Filos, it was sun God. But
Speaker 3: they they did supposedly correctly. May I stem the ninety one?
Speaker 3: That was a claim. A lot of people thought that
Speaker 3: it grew very differently, was very different from how it was,
Speaker 3: which can happen. I mean, you're you're you're not gonna
Speaker 3: get the exact same plant you had initially. It's gone
Speaker 3: through changes and it now has you know, been treated
Speaker 3: with many different hormones to get it to root, shoot,
Speaker 3: reactivate all this stuff. So a lot of people found that,
Speaker 3: like they're the chem ninety one that was mary stemmed
Speaker 3: if it was, you know, properly, and I'm not saying
Speaker 3: it wasn't, I just wasn't there, So I'm not making
Speaker 3: claims for anyone, but it was causing you know, like
Speaker 3: people just grabbed it, trays of it, that few thousands
Speaker 3: of it. It was all just hermine. It was all
Speaker 3: just herming because of the chemicals, the hormones in it.
Speaker 3: So there's a lot to do. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: aftercare when it comes to snips and mary stem or
Speaker 3: nodal prop as far as hormones, getting them back into rotation.
Speaker 3: All that stuff goes kind of sucks if no one
Speaker 3: really teaches anyone that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a kind of there's a couple of people
Speaker 1: that do some stuff that's unrelated to cannabis. I think
Speaker 1: I can I can learn a little bit from I
Speaker 1: learned a lot from some of these other nurses. But
Speaker 1: obviously it's it's different. It's cannabis is different. The protocols
Speaker 1: are different. There's no one protocol for cannabis. Something I
Speaker 1: did see that that was a little bit had me
Speaker 1: a little excited. Matt is some of the people that
Speaker 1: I've been successful with some of the TAC stuff, they're
Speaker 1: saying some of the ogs are some of the better
Speaker 1: ones to do it with.
Speaker 5: I don't know if there's any truth to that.
Speaker 1: Interesting what which that's exciting because I'm like, god, dude,
Speaker 1: the fucking I always thoughts those are gonna be the
Speaker 1: ones giving some problems. Yeah, but uh so, Yeah, just
Speaker 1: like going through some of these papers and what other
Speaker 1: people have done and learning some of the protocols, and
Speaker 1: just like kinda I gotta get some equipment too, and
Speaker 1: other things, and none of that shit's cheap. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna build out a nice little lab in I
Speaker 1: grow in a tent, I think, dude, and just go
Speaker 1: from there and and try to try my best at
Speaker 1: I need to learn TC for propagation anyways. So yeah,
Speaker 1: like a complete loss. Uh but and obviously when you're
Speaker 1: talking about holding the moms dude and cuts and ship,
Speaker 1: if if I could get half the garden in uh TC,
Speaker 1: dude and pull it off, obviously there's pitfalls of that
Speaker 1: mutations all the ship. So I was like, I got
Speaker 1: to have backup plans and not just like think everything's
Speaker 1: gonna work and go for it, but definitely gonna do
Speaker 1: some experiment. And I think it's kind of where I'm
Speaker 1: entering into. Man, looks you got a cute.
Speaker 3: Ass kidding, Yeah, this is our little orange man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, nice little, nice little kiddy cat.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think I was aweart. I think I'm
Speaker 1: entering in a new phase where it's more just like
Speaker 1: doing like my own what I would call guest research,
Speaker 1: I don't know, and just doing some tests and yeah,
Speaker 1: just seeing what's up with that kind of stuff. I'll
Speaker 1: be honest, like the motions of growing sometimes get a
Speaker 1: little boring anymore anyway, So like having this thing going,
Speaker 1: you know, this whole thing happened, and then kind of
Speaker 1: think about it, like from a different perspective, it'd be
Speaker 1: a fun adventure and a fun thing. And worst case is,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just growing out some bunch of d
Speaker 1: that has variegated, or you know, worst case, I guess,
Speaker 1: you know, we find some kind of positive identification on
Speaker 1: one of these pathogens or viruses or something, dude, Because
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just think it's interesting as a nerd,
Speaker 1: like a weed nerd, and you know.
Speaker 3: It is, and it's it's contributing to the community, to
Speaker 3: be honest, to like even run those kind of tests people.
Speaker 3: I mean, running tests is expensive as fuck, it is,
Speaker 3: and it can be prohibitive to a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would, like you know, and obviously this
Speaker 1: is a big ass, but guys, if you guys got
Speaker 1: those cuts out there and you're seeing some of the
Speaker 1: variegation and stuff, run some experiments, try some stuff.
Speaker 5: Out, if you have a place opportunity.
Speaker 1: To do it, or if you've seen any of the
Speaker 1: shit I'm talking about, if you've seen it transfer to
Speaker 1: other stuff, if you've see anything that looks like mosaic. Like, guys,
Speaker 1: I think it is gonna take everybody like working together
Speaker 1: and really trying to figure the shit out, because like
Speaker 1: like I said, I hope, God I'm fucking wrong, dude,
Speaker 1: I hope that all this is just it is all
Speaker 1: just some some something in the jeans du it or
Speaker 1: something that skunk passes on or whatever, you know, Like
Speaker 1: I said, like I hope that'd be great, But like
Speaker 1: I also too, like it's just all there's a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of weird shit going on, you know,
Speaker 1: like and when you look back on the forums, some
Speaker 1: of these guys have had the same thing or the
Speaker 1: same ideas or whatever twenty years ago that I'm going
Speaker 1: through right now with the same cuts. It's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, dude, this is a little weird and I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's just a lot of shit, man. You know,
Speaker 1: we talk about this off uh stream and stuff a lot,
Speaker 1: at least I do. I've been talking to Screws about
Speaker 1: this every day for a minute. Yeah, dude, this is
Speaker 1: just crazy. But anyways, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's gonna be a long drawn out process,
Speaker 3: but it's important. It's important. There's been a lot of
Speaker 3: there's been so much bros, Kims and then, and we've
Speaker 3: talked about this. There is one person that I really love, Greg,
Speaker 3: I do Kim dowg.
Speaker 1: Greg.
Speaker 3: There's so little negative I can say bad about him,
Speaker 3: Like as a human, he's always been a sweetheart. I
Speaker 3: do wish I felt like I could comfortably ask him
Speaker 3: questions that would result in answers that answer why these
Speaker 3: plants are breeding like they are. When you do enough
Speaker 3: breeding and enough crosses and eno f s ones and outcrosses,
Speaker 3: and you start to see how traits move you realize
Speaker 3: what is and what isn't a sister very easily, and
Speaker 3: not even to say, hey, dude, I'm calling you out
Speaker 3: because you're wrong. It's like, dude, what else could it
Speaker 3: possibly be? You know what I mean? Like, where else
Speaker 3: could we go from here? What? What else were you
Speaker 3: growing around that time? You know? But it's the story's
Speaker 3: never changed. I mean as far as far genuine generally speaking.
Speaker 3: There was a mail at one point that disappeared, but
Speaker 3: I I hope, uh yeah.
Speaker 5: If we ever get a chance to talk to him
Speaker 5: or whatever. I know it's like a big thing, but.
Speaker 1: I would love to ask him if they were variegated
Speaker 1: when he first started with him, dude, Like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, I want to know, like I know,
Speaker 1: and this is kind of like I was talking to
Speaker 1: Scristen about, like if Kim is your whole thing, right,
Speaker 1: this is your way to make money all the shit,
Speaker 1: even if you knew you did. If it was variegated
Speaker 1: from the beginning, would you say, would you admit it
Speaker 1: or would you even say it? Because the implications of
Speaker 1: some of the stuff, if it isn't just some kind
Speaker 1: of if it is a virus, right, like, yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of people that have done
Speaker 1: a lot of work with these cuts over the years,
Speaker 1: and you know that's something we like to talk about
Speaker 1: in prod ourself on it, trying to keep it real
Speaker 1: as possible and like try to do the best that
Speaker 1: we can. And you know, and uh, it makes like
Speaker 1: I said that Jeff told us you off off air
Speaker 1: and I don't mind scheering this kind of thing, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it makes you feel still critical because you're like, yo,
Speaker 1: you're trying to help people out and do the best
Speaker 1: you can. But like if you're sitting around looking and
Speaker 1: you're seeing that maybe you're part of the problem too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then maybe it's time to walk away, you know.
Speaker 1: Like that's kind of obviously been thinking about us and
Speaker 1: that's uh, well basically today really just because I'm like
Speaker 1: I've seen some things, like I said this morning, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, like any little.
Speaker 5: Bit of question I had today basically went out the window.
Speaker 1: And I'm just because I've been talking to Screws and
Speaker 1: he's like, dude, just chill, you know, like it's variegation,
Speaker 1: wait for the test, and I'm just like, I don't know, gee,
Speaker 1: like I I just can't. I don't don't. We're just
Speaker 1: at that point. I don't know if anybody could change
Speaker 1: my mind at this point, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's one of those things where is it causing it
Speaker 3: to show the variegation more often, but it's a smaller
Speaker 3: virus that can be dealt with easier. There's all kinds
Speaker 3: of different answers in there, in the different levels that
Speaker 3: it can be, and it's like, which one is it?
Speaker 1: You don't have to stack Matt, Yeah, it's you're guessing.
Speaker 1: That's kind of like, oh, I was talking to Screw
Speaker 1: like at this point, like whether the tests come back
Speaker 1: positive or negative, like at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: like I'm still gonna try to t see it because
Speaker 1: like you know, obviously, if we can t see it
Speaker 1: and bring it back and it doesn't have irrigation anymore,
Speaker 1: like that's a little weird.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that would be super weird.
Speaker 1: Big time. So uh yeah, like why not try it?
Speaker 1: Like we we are such nerds, Like I can't believe.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I'm kind.
Speaker 5: Of disappointed in Campam.
Speaker 1: Why haven't you done this ship. I'm just some fucking
Speaker 1: idiot paulin Chucker, like, why is it and if they have,
Speaker 1: if somebody has, like why aren't they sharing this ship? Dude,
Speaker 1: Like as well, ain't nobody they have? Nobody just except
Speaker 1: for a few people we talked about air at It's expensive, Matt.
Speaker 3: It is very expensive to do. And when you're you're
Speaker 3: talking doing Mary Stem, I've met very few people who
Speaker 3: can prove that they've married Stem to Clone. And I
Speaker 3: talked to the best of them and hand it off
Speaker 3: stuff to them to be tested, and it's all been
Speaker 3: a massive failure. And that's at a price point. Last
Speaker 3: time it's over five thousand dollars to six thousand.
Speaker 1: Yep, Clone, that's beautiful, That's what Really, it's so much
Speaker 1: bullshit and bro signs out there that like it's one
Speaker 1: of those deals that it's kind of like looking into
Speaker 1: the varrogation with the Kim Dog Dude, the Kim Dog
Speaker 1: d and stuff. You just got to do yourself because
Speaker 1: it's like I could sit here and like, you know,
Speaker 1: listen to everybody and everything and different things, but until
Speaker 1: I go through it and try it myself, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a big waste of time, effort, money, resources, but
Speaker 1: also so is growing sick virus plans, like exactly so
Speaker 1: many fucking grows, Like if I want to know for
Speaker 1: my because like not even just for making seeds or whatever,
Speaker 1: I don't you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, if I'm growing a bunch of plants
Speaker 1: that are sick and I'm getting less yields or potential, uh,
Speaker 1: my harvest is affected. Like your people say, well, I
Speaker 1: don't grow for yields and stuff, Well, like no shit.
Speaker 1: But like if you're growing a kim dog and it
Speaker 1: takes nine, ten, eleven weeks on some of these older cuts,
Speaker 1: like why wouldn't you want to grow up the best
Speaker 1: you can? Or twelve weeks on some of this older shit, dude,
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I'm not even talking hazes, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about just some of these older cuts. Like it's like, dude,
Speaker 1: I want it to grow the best I can. And
Speaker 1: that's really what it comes down to. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm getting hyped up.
Speaker 5: I had a monster and I'm I'm smoking.
Speaker 1: I'm virus out, man, I got the fucking mosaic up
Speaker 1: in my asshole, probably.
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Speaker 5: Did you mention did you even mention the x Y kids?
Speaker 3: I did the xy sex test?
Speaker 5: Okay, I just didn't hear you.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm an iPads and I it's a little shitty. Yeah. Anyways,
Speaker 1: Yeah that I watched an interview with Farmer or what
Speaker 1: I can't say his name.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the dude you're talking about. I just watched him.
Speaker 5: Checked him out recently because I bought some of those tests. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and I wanted to know more about him, and I
Speaker 5: watched him.
Speaker 1: Great guy, some of the interviews. Dude, and he seems
Speaker 1: pretty smart.
Speaker 3: Dude. I like this smart he knows.
Speaker 1: He doesn't bullshit something I liked about it. He just says,
Speaker 1: I don't know. We are in the business of testing
Speaker 1: and getting through these for people. We're not here to
Speaker 1: tell you what things are exactly you know, like he
Speaker 1: was talking about how people afterwards will be like, how
Speaker 1: do I fix it?
Speaker 5: But what do I do?
Speaker 1: And he's like, you know, we try to help the
Speaker 1: best that we can, but it's mainly about getting the
Speaker 1: tests and stuff done.
Speaker 5: And so he seems legit.
Speaker 1: He doesn't over sell ship, and he seems pretty honest,
Speaker 1: you know, or at least for what I can tell.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I like him a lot. Every single copisation
Speaker 3: we've had, he's been amazing and it and it's something
Speaker 3: that like, I really truly feel like we all need
Speaker 3: to be using, even if you're hobbyist growers, even if
Speaker 3: you're bringing in even if you're buying seeds from people
Speaker 3: that you oh that you know that I heard that
Speaker 3: the Hot time said that these guys has fucking road venom.
Speaker 3: It's got to be legit. I'll just go buy those.
Speaker 3: You don't have to worry about no fucking you know.
Speaker 1: Hey, we just need to add toad venom of the
Speaker 1: title of his video and he'll get twenty views.
Speaker 3: I know, right, yeah, you know, I mean they might
Speaker 3: think that'll be the safe way to do it, but
Speaker 3: you know, these things can be pas seeds.
Speaker 1: So keep that in mind.
Speaker 3: Who is making these seeds, Well, there are people that
Speaker 3: appear to make seeds, and there are people that make
Speaker 3: seeds and I've had to do it for a few
Speaker 3: years and just to have input from Afar, I know
Speaker 3: other people have had to do it, so it happens.
Speaker 3: You wise, ask the people who's making them see if
Speaker 3: they'll be honest. Yeah, about the best you can do.
Speaker 3: But like I love it that. I don't love that
Speaker 3: you're having to live through this, but it makes me
Speaker 3: happy that you're at least experiencing it and people can
Speaker 3: watch like that have been watching the show for the
Speaker 3: last you know, year and a half two years, kind
Speaker 3: of experienced this all with you, and they're seeing how
Speaker 3: it can happen. The excitement, you know, grabbing clones, getting
Speaker 3: the clones finally and then maybe even see the downside
Speaker 3: of it. Oh ye, people hate talking about the downside.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, guys. Like I've said, I've been pretty
Speaker 1: clear about it. Like you know, like on cam Bro
Speaker 1: were doing everything for Kim. But they're not my favorite
Speaker 1: plants in the world. They're not my favorite things to
Speaker 1: grow in the world. Would I say they're even my
Speaker 1: favorite smoke in the world. Probably not some of these
Speaker 1: legacy cuts that are a bitch, they don't They're not
Speaker 1: what I expected. This is kind of why I'm leanding
Speaker 1: into these theories even more because it's like the way
Speaker 1: some of these people talk about some of this shit,
Speaker 1: and and I'm not gonna lie like the D the
Speaker 1: D I've smelled it. You know, I've smoked some pretty
Speaker 1: reputable people stuff. You know it's great. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's great weed. Like I'm not like shitting on it
Speaker 1: by any means, you don't get twisted. It's better than
Speaker 1: most shit out there. But I don't know about you guys.
Speaker 1: I just know if it's smoking enough weed. Did I
Speaker 1: get burnt.
Speaker 5: Out on anything in the day or two days or
Speaker 5: three days?
Speaker 1: I gotta switch up buds, like I don't know, like
Speaker 1: I'm a crackhead about it, like I it don't matter
Speaker 1: what it is. And there hasn't hasn't been a bud
Speaker 1: out there to this day that I've smoked. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh God, this shit be so hard. I gotta put
Speaker 1: it down, you.
Speaker 5: Know, Like, yeah, it's not like that for me. I
Speaker 5: smoke so much.
Speaker 1: It's just my tolerance is insane, like you guys don't
Speaker 1: like I try to explain this ex to people now
Speaker 1: that being said, is the D fire as fuck to
Speaker 1: somebody that doesn't smoke.
Speaker 5: Hardly at all?
Speaker 1: Or like, can you have a run of it that's
Speaker 1: fucking amazing, like the best thing ever? Yes, of course,
Speaker 1: But I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And it wipes you out the first time you smoke it.
Speaker 1: Yes, man, I'm just.
Speaker 5: A home I'm a tent grower.
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm looking for more consistency. So some of
Speaker 1: these older cuts, like you talk to guys like H
Speaker 1: and L and they'll say, yeah, I get a good
Speaker 1: run of D one in three runs, Okay, Like I'm
Speaker 1: just doing ship.
Speaker 5: I'm just the one guy.
Speaker 1: I don't have water boys, I don't have a dab
Speaker 1: hose that I porker on the side that are doing
Speaker 1: my cloning for me or whatever.
Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just doing Uh, I'm just doing this
Speaker 1: ship myself. So like like I you know, when you
Speaker 1: when you weigh the pros and cons in some of
Speaker 1: these cuts, it's like, yeah, I got a.
Speaker 5: Four by four that I run my legacy shit. But
Speaker 5: like at the same time.
Speaker 1: It's like I like to grow other ship too, and
Speaker 1: like to try other things out. And I'm young enough
Speaker 1: and new enough, still into the stuff. I feel like
Speaker 1: that still have a lot to learn. So it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, for me, are there some of these
Speaker 1: legacy cuts like the best in.
Speaker 5: The world or the answers?
Speaker 1: I personally feel like it's more like they're great and
Speaker 1: I always will be thankful for having an opportunity to
Speaker 1: see them, to grow them. I don't I don't ever
Speaker 1: want to get it twisted. I am super thankful and
Speaker 1: I'm living a dream. There's most people will never get
Speaker 1: to see them whatever.
Speaker 5: I get it.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I would I I would
Speaker 1: stand on a root, I would stand on the top
Speaker 1: of a roof and screen.
Speaker 5: Don't get these cuts. You're you're it's it's it's all
Speaker 5: fake in your mind.
Speaker 1: Like what you think they are or what they are
Speaker 1: could could be for you, Like are they gonna solve
Speaker 1: you your problems? Are they gonna give you the best
Speaker 1: weed in the world? Possibly, But they could also bring
Speaker 1: you problems if you're not ready for them.
Speaker 5: They're not easy to grow, they're not easy to root for.
Speaker 1: Some people, you know, they're out of a couple of
Speaker 1: seven eight guys only like myself and one other dude
Speaker 1: was able to root stuff after doing quote unquote meetups
Speaker 1: and getting something. Yeah, so it's not like these are
Speaker 1: not and you know, if you off the street just now, growing,
Speaker 1: I don't I wouldn't advise these people to go out
Speaker 1: for these cuts or pay any money for them if
Speaker 1: you can get them for free, if you don't have
Speaker 1: any cuts already, and you you're you know, you're willing
Speaker 1: to risk it, guys, that's the thing. If I was
Speaker 1: willing to risk it. So I'm not upset like that.
Speaker 1: I'm up more upset, uh that, In a lot of
Speaker 1: ways I'm upset about I wish I wish there was
Speaker 1: more information on these cuts. I wish that more people
Speaker 1: would do testing, like I wish that. You know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's upsetting to me. It's upsetting to me that
Speaker 1: you know, if these cuts are bad or if it's not, well,
Speaker 1: hopefully it's not, but if they are, then there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people out there that have these genetics or
Speaker 1: as ones and things, including myself. Uh eights, but uh
Speaker 1: but yeah, like so I just uh, yeah, to answer
Speaker 1: your question, long story not short. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I would recommend going for these cuts or you know,
Speaker 1: we talked about this all time. Cuts to me are
Speaker 1: like a ball and chain. I just think, for if
Speaker 1: you're gonna make seeds, if you're gonna be in cruise
Speaker 1: and you're gonna talk about these genetics, or you're gonna
Speaker 1: do a podcast, you need to know what the fuck
Speaker 1: you're talking about. And I'm just this was my attempt
Speaker 1: at just trying to do my best the fast track
Speaker 1: to be on the closest level to some of you
Speaker 1: guys that I can to keep up with you guys
Speaker 1: and be able to talk to you guys about these genetics.
Speaker 1: When I get on a podcast with somebody and they're
Speaker 1: talking about East Coast and d what the fuck you somebody?
Speaker 1: If I can't talk about them or know anything about them,
Speaker 1: or I've never grown them, I don't have a skin
Speaker 1: in the game, I don't know anybody, I'm nobody. So
Speaker 1: it's like for me, when somebody offered me opportunity to
Speaker 1: grow those, of course I'm gonna take it. Dude, like
Speaker 1: anybody else that doesn't have you would do it because.
Speaker 5: You want to know, you want to you want the answers.
Speaker 1: That's the that's the ship I started off in the
Speaker 1: very beginning to know, and I honestly it kind of
Speaker 1: took the magic out of a lot of it for me,
Speaker 1: bro cause it's like you go on these questions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you goelling these questions, some of these genetics and the
Speaker 1: hunt of it itself or that knowledge, the hunt of
Speaker 1: the knowledge or the answers like that. That's what I
Speaker 1: found in myself in the last two weeks with all
Speaker 1: this stuff, like just learning about stuff. It's like the
Speaker 1: hunt of it in itself, of whatever it is, whether
Speaker 1: it's a big zooity booty judy, whether it's African queen.
Speaker 5: Uh, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Matt, Matt, it's it's the hunt. It's the thrill of
Speaker 1: learning and the unknown and exploring and pause. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: we do me and you do a lot of exploring
Speaker 1: off off camera, but on camera. You know what I'm saying. Yes,
Speaker 1: no websites though, Matt, no website never. But uh So
Speaker 1: that being said, uh, do you have any stories that
Speaker 1: you would want to share or in your past fucking
Speaker 1: with all this ship or horror stories, whether it's been
Speaker 1: yourself and you don't have to share names obviously, but uh,
Speaker 1: do you have any stories that pertains like viruses or
Speaker 1: or you know, pathogens or any of this kind of
Speaker 1: shit We kind of talked about tonight.
Speaker 3: There was a kid that would go on the forums
Speaker 3: and he always said his name to everyone, so that
Speaker 3: it was named name is Danny Dawe. Everybody knew his
Speaker 3: first and last name. He was a dipshit like, he
Speaker 3: offered that that was his name, used it, and he
Speaker 3: had some rare Filipino plants in his house and he
Speaker 3: had some other cuts of bubba, and he kept bugging
Speaker 3: me to try his bubba. I was like, I got bubby.
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, but mine's different. So I let Danny
Speaker 3: Dawe send me some bubba, and along with it came
Speaker 3: a strain of powdery mildew that no powdery mildew treatment
Speaker 3: could kill. So that took out one set of room
Speaker 3: and the only clone at that time, if I remember
Speaker 3: correctly that it didn't take out all the way was
Speaker 3: clock or Corange and Blue Jery, like it leveled everything
Speaker 3: and just watching it spraying it, you know. Even that
Speaker 3: was the first time I bought a sulfur burner burning
Speaker 3: a sulfur burner and just watching so much fun. That
Speaker 3: was hard. That was hard, and that was only you know,
Speaker 3: a few years in at that time, and it was
Speaker 3: still hard to watch everything I collected and bought go.
Speaker 3: So I recollected some stuff I went and this went
Speaker 3: for a much longer run without any huge mistakes of
Speaker 3: losing a bunch. And then one of the Clone people
Speaker 3: I was referring to earlier offered to choose you clone
Speaker 3: my whole mother library for access to it, and then
Speaker 3: they would give me a certain percentage of clone soul,
Speaker 3: et cetera. It was a legal place, and I agreed
Speaker 3: to let them, you know, take all my moms and
Speaker 3: at the end of them summer, I was going to
Speaker 3: get them all back cleaned up. What ended up happening
Speaker 3: was I had to chase the guy down and he
Speaker 3: handed me back a U haul box that had cuts
Speaker 3: from my moms in them that were pretty much just
Speaker 3: liquid and like you could see some plant matter because
Speaker 3: they sat in a garage for three months. That was
Speaker 3: that was like, that was seriously like one hundred and
Speaker 3: thirty moms that were very special, some of them weren't.
Speaker 3: Some of them are gone for good. A lot of
Speaker 3: were my selections of my stuff. His friend was the
Speaker 3: one who tried to said he could do clockwork orange
Speaker 3: and of course killed it. He said he could do
Speaker 3: orange velvet for Jill charged here five k gave her back,
Speaker 3: not orange velvet, And it was really obvious. It wasn't
Speaker 3: even a rare stemmed clone. It was. It was a
Speaker 3: mini clone, a micro clone, nodal prop type thing. So
Speaker 3: it's just been nothing but bad experiences with that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff. But coming back from each one, the one
Speaker 3: thing I did learn after the because there was a
Speaker 3: depression that sits in for sure, for sure, this is
Speaker 3: my passion. It takes time to get all that stuff.
Speaker 3: Blackie I don't know, but he's ripped off a lot
Speaker 3: of people, so I'd be surprised if he's still breathing
Speaker 3: his name. Mooney Moon Dog. Yeah, that was hard. But
Speaker 3: what I did learn was that's what pushed me to
Speaker 3: pop all my blueberry stuff again. Yeah, start the blueberry hunt,
Speaker 3: because I was like, Okay, I can get all my
Speaker 3: cuts back, not all of them, but some of them
Speaker 3: back over time from people, and I did. And but
Speaker 3: during that time I also said, this is the perfect
Speaker 3: time to pop through all my blueberries and find the
Speaker 3: perfect blueberry that I've been wanting back ever since I
Speaker 3: lost my fucking yeah and yeah, so it worked out
Speaker 3: for the better. Now I'm back in a similar position,
Speaker 3: and it's like, well, there's a lot of deaded shit
Speaker 3: out there. You won't ever see me working with fucking
Speaker 3: no ho venom or whatever it's called. Like, I don't
Speaker 3: give a fuck to work with any of the stuff
Speaker 3: that's popular for people. I'm past that. My I what't
Speaker 3: even call it a career. This isn't even a career.
Speaker 3: This is just my passion that is ticking me this far.
Speaker 3: And I have no reason to even be fucking with
Speaker 3: any of that ship. I've seen it all, seen the
Speaker 3: directions that cookies breeds, and I know exactly what people
Speaker 3: are gonna get and cross some TANGI whoop do you
Speaker 3: fucking do what that looks like? Dude?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And it was super boo for you know, I.
Speaker 1: Mean kind of to be honest with me, I don't care,
Speaker 1: call me, call me the G word, I don't care.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure what we can stay on this site.
Speaker 3: So, dude, Trump, I had someone bring over some tropical cookies.
Speaker 3: The other day it was it was trap. I can't
Speaker 3: I fucking cookies.
Speaker 1: This aw shit. Ever, I can't ship I grow autos, bro,
Speaker 1: I can't talk shit about nothing.
Speaker 3: Auto growers can talk shit on TANGI growers all day.
Speaker 1: I don't care what.
Speaker 5: I have some mottos right now. I know the same
Speaker 5: old story.
Speaker 1: I got them two two plants per two or two
Speaker 1: plants and two gallons so to share. And I have'm
Speaker 1: running rags, so I got to obviously take out the mails.
Speaker 5: But I got some nice thought I was going.
Speaker 1: I made like, uh, it's been I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: closer to two years actually now because when my first
Speaker 1: move out to Michigan when I made those. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm running some of those some pretty pretty pleasant lady
Speaker 1: surprised what to Maybe do a little meet up with
Speaker 1: them or send you and you can write a little
Speaker 1: paper about them, give us a review on them, and
Speaker 1: I'll tell you their kim dog maybe and you'll say, damn,
Speaker 1: this is some best kid, the best kim.
Speaker 5: Dog I've ever smoked.
Speaker 1: Really interesting terms, Chuck, Yeah, and I'll reveal later on
Speaker 1: it's auto it's.
Speaker 3: Auto flower, Chuck. You know who got me with Auto flower?
Speaker 3: Joke once was each and ol Yeah, yeah, motherfucker. He's like,
Speaker 3: I'm going to send you something. I want you to
Speaker 3: tell me if it's good or not, but I'm not
Speaker 3: going to tell you what it is. I was like,
Speaker 3: all right, I'm down for that. He's like, I want
Speaker 3: to know what you think it is. I love I
Speaker 3: love games, like guessing games of what.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So he said it and I couldn't identify it. I couldn't.
Speaker 3: I was like, but it got me high. It wasn't
Speaker 3: like smash you in the face. I was watching the
Speaker 3: shoreline high. But it was like, yeah, I mean it's smokable, good,
Speaker 3: good enough, whet. It was a fucking like a quadra
Speaker 3: eight polyhybrid, you know, like f twenty yeah times twenty.
Speaker 3: Das Mephisto, No no, no, no thiss Das. Das is
Speaker 3: a good guy. But like it was one of those
Speaker 3: where it was like a lot in it and you
Speaker 3: couldn't like if it had gorilla glue on the name,
Speaker 3: you can in this particular experience, there was no gorilla
Speaker 3: glue to be smoked out of it. It was very
Speaker 3: reminded me very much of like like if you were
Speaker 3: to take compressed or Mexican brick and compress it. That's
Speaker 3: what reminded me of But still Mexican brick got me
Speaker 3: higher than a lot of ship out there nowadays. So
Speaker 3: it's you know, it's not even an insult.
Speaker 5: Even just from being a weed nerd.
Speaker 1: I would love to meet up and to give you
Speaker 1: a couple of samples of these ones. It's the most
Speaker 1: bubble gummy sweet bubble gum I've ever smelled on a plant,
Speaker 1: and I thought, I just think it's super cool and superandow,
Speaker 1: I want to check that out sit on from the
Speaker 1: mom they're obviously they're autos, but yeah, yeah, I'm excited
Speaker 1: because I'm seeing that same uh turp or smell where
Speaker 1: everyone call it and that it's kind of like, yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: so bubblegum be funky bubble gum but super sweet.
Speaker 5: Dude, Like, yeah, that's really intense actually, and you know, the.
Speaker 3: Bubble gum is missing the sweet part in the flavor.
Speaker 3: It's just like smoking dust.
Speaker 1: I smoked that one. I have some packs of the
Speaker 1: I Xes or whatever, but yeah from Caleb or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just haven't I got a bunch of those for freebies,
Speaker 1: and uh, I just haven't ran them out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting because of the cherry mill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be honest, I sold a couple of those
Speaker 1: packs actually because I guess he doesn't have anymore and
Speaker 1: people were buying him for like a hundred bucks. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I was doing some trading and stuff, and you
Speaker 1: know what it is just about just dude, my wife
Speaker 1: been on my ass about, you know, buying seeds and stuff.
Speaker 1: So I've been hustling a little bit there there in here,
Speaker 1: doing a little flipp flippy and just to help. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's to help pay for some stuff. But yeah, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know people like that. People are looking for it.
Speaker 3: Well, I do know that we all have a eighteen
Speaker 3: billion dollar bill that we are all supposed to be
Speaker 3: working on to pay our president back for his assuing
Speaker 3: the government, which is funny that he's seeing the taxpayers
Speaker 3: to pay himself back. Well, so don't don't forget to
Speaker 3: put that aside.
Speaker 1: For the man, I don't have any money, mad, I'm
Speaker 1: a Paula joker. We don't make money. What do you know.
Speaker 3: I know, And he's gonna be mad at you, dude.
Speaker 5: I might have to fucking sell some dick scan or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know, dude.
Speaker 3: I mean they're into that ship, that's what I hear.
Speaker 5: So yeah, they say they had the forescans, Matt, and.
Speaker 3: Then harvest in the foreskins.
Speaker 1: There are two or three thousand dollars apiece for real,
Speaker 1: look it up.
Speaker 3: There's actually I shouldn't even say this because it's gonna
Speaker 3: sound so horrible, but it's true. It's called I don't
Speaker 3: I may pronounce it wrong, Tita pet and it as
Speaker 3: actually Orthodox and I myself am of Jewish heritage, but
Speaker 3: Orthodox Jewish heritage. Where with Amyle who performs the circumcision,
Speaker 3: there is a little bit of liquid that comes out.
Speaker 3: They suck it off with their mouth and spit it out,
Speaker 3: and it's caused, you know, like people that have lip herpes,
Speaker 3: to transsubmit it to the children and stuff over time.
Speaker 3: But it was wild to see, like the other day
Speaker 3: that actually showed up. I thought it was weird that
Speaker 3: I even knew that that shit existed, and it came
Speaker 3: on TV on national news of our American government defending
Speaker 3: their right to do that weird shit.
Speaker 5: So I don't know herpe.
Speaker 1: Hell, I'm learning about cannabis herpees right now, Matt. Yeah, Hey,
Speaker 1: I got a lot more shit than I.
Speaker 5: Don't got, Matt. Fuck it, yeah, fuck it, no man,
Speaker 5: somebody said something interesting in the chat.
Speaker 1: Uh where was it?
Speaker 3: Oh? Uh?
Speaker 1: Jay says, Once upon a time I grew someone's cut
Speaker 1: of warlow that was a bubble gum as anything as
Speaker 1: I ever spelled, mixed with some turpenally. You know what's
Speaker 1: interesting about that, some of the siblings to a couple
Speaker 1: of the ones that smell extremely sweet bubble gum, they're
Speaker 1: terpenolan and eat and wellpenally pine like, very piny, terpenal
Speaker 1: like leaning. But yeah, I noticed that too with these
Speaker 1: the ones that are extremely bubble gum. And then there's
Speaker 1: two or three that don't like that, like the mom,
Speaker 1: But then the siblings they have that to to degree,
Speaker 1: but not really sweet, but it's more you smell more
Speaker 1: terpinling pining with it then you do bubble gum.
Speaker 5: So that's the only ones that that's all I'll.
Speaker 1: Smell in there, is either bubble gum or the ones
Speaker 1: that have kind of like that pine ish a little
Speaker 1: bit of bubble gum, but terpinaling for sure.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, for sure, that's kind of interesting.
Speaker 3: That ninety five cents you started that was actually released
Speaker 3: as Superstar by Delta Night Labs. That one has extreme
Speaker 3: terpenoling and bubble gum and it combines for the flavor
Speaker 3: and the smell, and it's pretty dominant when you find
Speaker 3: there's Actually I ran a shitload of those because I
Speaker 3: was going to do some work with ed reproduce some
Speaker 3: beans way back in the day. This is like two
Speaker 3: thousand and eight, so I was just barely getting into it,
Speaker 3: and he put trust into me because he he thought
Speaker 3: he felt like I had made a lot, a lot
Speaker 3: of learning and understanding pretty fast from working with the
Speaker 3: hogs Breath guys. But yeah, that's where I first found that,
Speaker 3: and inside that line I was either finding ultrapinally one
Speaker 3: was very kerosene type gas. Even the kerosine doesn't have
Speaker 3: a smell, but it's hard of it. It was gassy,
Speaker 3: and then the rest were mostly sweet bubble gum terpinal
Speaker 3: and flavor. And yeah, I thought that shit was fucking awesome.
Speaker 1: Dude. The mom smells like that to the very sweet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just fucking it's very funny. The mom smell more
Speaker 1: funky sweet bubble gum, and the ones that I'm really liking,
Speaker 1: and they have the structure though, like are very sweet
Speaker 1: bubble gum funk, not so much turpinoline.
Speaker 6: Yeah, dude, I just I'm a sucker like for these kinds,
Speaker 6: like these weird smells like that that I haven't got
Speaker 6: to experience in other plants, like the first time you
Speaker 6: smell it, like the first time I smell blue and
Speaker 6: the blueberry stuff, and especially like with the i X,
Speaker 6: like some of those gloomberry candies and jams and stuff
Speaker 6: that are and some of that ship whether you enjoy
Speaker 6: the smoke or whatever.
Speaker 5: I could literally just smell the smell like cracker jar,
Speaker 5: open up it.
Speaker 1: And smell it, dude, be happy, Yeah, just sappy smelling that.
Speaker 5: That's something that just blows my mind.
Speaker 1: When you especially uh on some of the mango stuff
Speaker 1: that H and O brought yuh to meet up. I
Speaker 1: love that still to this day. The most you guys
Speaker 1: are gonna laugh. Very soury mango.
Speaker 5: He smelling like not sat When I say sour, I
Speaker 5: don't mean like souries. I mean very like sour like
Speaker 5: like c not city.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said you sixt you're sad like on the
Speaker 1: tongue kind of. Yeah. The the most mango thing I've
Speaker 1: had today was was actually an auto flower and none
Speaker 1: of the other ones expressed like that. It's this particular one.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And I think I've spoken to you before in the
Speaker 1: past when I first started growing, Uh, I got some
Speaker 1: shitty autumn flower seeds from you know, one of those
Speaker 1: sites that everybody uh anyways, uh, and it came out dude,
Speaker 1: to this day is still one of.
Speaker 5: My favorite uh.
Speaker 1: I mean really plants, I would say, uh, but red
Speaker 1: bubble gum like cinnamon, e very like straight up cinnamony,
Speaker 1: big red bubble gum, dude. Not sweet, but just the
Speaker 1: spiciness from the bubble gum and the cinnamon smell but
Speaker 1: not like any sweet, not a bakery smell, but literally
Speaker 1: just cinnamon or like kind of a big red the
Speaker 1: way it kind of that straight up like that, dude.
Speaker 1: And I have not found that in any other thing ever, Dude,
Speaker 1: anything I've grown, I don't know anybody in the chat
Speaker 1: ever experienced that. Awesome.
Speaker 3: I've experienced cinnamon before on one plant, and I was
Speaker 3: the only one who couldn't smell cinnamon on the plant,
Speaker 3: but everybody else called it cinnamon. And it was just
Speaker 3: a regular Jack Harra expression that I sent over to
Speaker 3: Amsterdam and they ended up there's a company called Female Seeds.
Speaker 3: They made s ones of it and sold it for
Speaker 3: a long time. It was one of their best. But
Speaker 3: I couldn't smell the cinnamon, and people looked at me like,
Speaker 3: this smells like big red gum idiot kit. It's just
Speaker 3: one of those smells I couldn't smell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean my wife, she she dude lightly where
Speaker 1: she's been pregnant, which is interesting. She can smell stuff
Speaker 1: that she could like, I know because I've shown her
Speaker 1: the same cuts or the same plants. So, but she
Speaker 1: can smell stuff now uh and others that smells not
Speaker 1: a cannabis for related.
Speaker 5: But she can smell things now.
Speaker 1: Before as she would smoke cigarettes before she was pregnant,
Speaker 1: she couldn't smell the same shit. Yeah, could smell stuff
Speaker 1: like I did, right, so very different and she would
Speaker 1: just always be like, yeah, somemells like weed or smells
Speaker 1: gassy or smells fruity. But that was that was like
Speaker 1: the extent of stuff. But now yeah, yeah, if she's
Speaker 1: definitely finding more stuff now that she's pregnant, which is interesting.
Speaker 1: Katie says bubb ain't ship but had a nice stick
Speaker 1: dank mego come out of that one. I ran, that's
Speaker 1: fucking sick.
Speaker 5: A nice mango from Abubba that would be kind of wild.
Speaker 3: Actually, someone I know right now is working on pineapple
Speaker 3: bubba using pineapple expression and bubba and it's looking fire,
Speaker 3: and I think that would be such a killer combination.
Speaker 1: I have got some pineapple out of a few things,
Speaker 1: not super intense, but enough that I would call it pineapple, right,
Speaker 1: Like not so sour on the nose or that kind
Speaker 1: of smell, but like definitely like the pineapple smell.
Speaker 5: You know, I guess we kind of pineapple smell, but
Speaker 5: for sure, Yeah, the.
Speaker 3: C ninety nine has a dead on pineapple, like you
Speaker 3: fucking cut open or right pineapple.
Speaker 1: I would love it.
Speaker 3: I gotta blow KT for that banana type cut.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that'd be sweet.
Speaker 3: You know, he doesn't bring in a bunch of dumb
Speaker 3: ass cuts, so it's a safe sound safe, yeah, dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like after reading some of the ship I've read
Speaker 1: over the last two weeks every day, I just like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, like this shit is wild, dude. If
Speaker 1: it's if this is any kind of accuracy to some
Speaker 1: of the ship that they say is out there. It's scary, dude,
Speaker 1: from a perspective. If you're just a guy grow some
Speaker 1: tin ship or growing some popping some seeds like whatever,
Speaker 1: that's probably the best place for you. And a lot
Speaker 1: of us starting off. That's where we all start off,
Speaker 1: most of us, you know, if you're not a Cali
Speaker 1: bro or connected or whatever you want to call.
Speaker 5: It, Like, it's where you start off. And I think too,
Speaker 5: like you know, when you're isolated in some of these
Speaker 5: rural areas.
Speaker 1: Man, and you don't grow up with the dad that
Speaker 1: flip bags or grew in the backyard or whatever. You know,
Speaker 1: I've had grandpas and shit and fucked with it, but
Speaker 1: that they're not out there showing me or talking to
Speaker 1: me about this ship. It's like after they die here
Speaker 1: about it or I get the roach clips or something thead.
Speaker 1: But yeah, some many of us, you know, it's lonely, dude,
Speaker 1: and not.
Speaker 5: In uh you know, uh, light some candles and watch
Speaker 5: the Netflix with Matt kind of way.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's only for it being a nerd, you know.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, like that's why I feel like, that's why
Speaker 1: like Hot Times those magazines would do good in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways, because you've got random dudes like obviously
Speaker 1: either they got other things going on, cuts and contests
Speaker 1: or competition all the shit. But it's a way for
Speaker 1: people that are nowhere to be a part of it
Speaker 1: or at least what we are impression or idea or
Speaker 1: maybe you know.
Speaker 5: It was just completely off.
Speaker 1: Point right, it was.
Speaker 3: It was the best way for them to make money
Speaker 3: by making a product, a magazine that was only ads,
Speaker 3: no matter how you looked at it, no matter if
Speaker 3: it was an AD that came with a bunch of
Speaker 3: you know, write ups that made it seem like not
Speaker 3: as much of an ad, more of a personal experience.
Speaker 3: But they mastered ads. And they told me from the beginning,
Speaker 3: if you don't talk positively about us, we will make
Speaker 3: sure you never make it. This Danny Dinko, that's a
Speaker 3: quote from your fucking ass.
Speaker 1: So yeah, just a bunch of bullshit, but like on
Speaker 1: the outside.
Speaker 3: Right, like you just yeah, Danny Dinko, don't even work
Speaker 3: for fucking high times. How'd that go?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, if you're isolated and you're fifteen sixteen, right,
Speaker 1: and yeah, you watch uh you watch uh reefer Madness
Speaker 1: and you get high for the first time, and you
Speaker 1: watch super I mean, you start going on the rabbit
Speaker 1: hole and you know, get on four to twenty chan,
Speaker 1: start getting CFLs and growing PC Yeah, weed.
Speaker 3: In a computer.
Speaker 5: Like dude, you know what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: So it's like you don't know, so you do.
Speaker 5: You aspire to know more, just like you want to
Speaker 5: meet breeders or the people that you look up to.
Speaker 1: And you know, when you are a rural kid, especially
Speaker 1: from the South, you can't talk about that shits nobody.
Speaker 1: So you know, download a Hot Times cup or Cannabis
Speaker 1: Cup or fucking whohes of antest videos from you know,
Speaker 1: Pirate Bay or you torn or you know whatever the fuck.
Speaker 1: It is, like, that's just like what we did to seek. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's to be a part of what you guys got
Speaker 1: to experience. You guys probably took it for granted, you know,
Speaker 1: or maybe you did, like like for the guys that
Speaker 1: and guys out there that, like our parents didn't grow
Speaker 1: pot in it and they were up our ass about it,
Speaker 1: or like my parents were not cool with that shit, bro.
Speaker 3: So it's like my mom was not cool with it,
Speaker 3: my grandma was not cool with it, and my dad
Speaker 3: was cool with everything. So it was a weird I had.
Speaker 3: I had a weird growing up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, my family went they're more from the South,
Speaker 1: you know, ain't Christian Christians or nothing like that, but
Speaker 1: like our grandparents were, and like a lot of that
Speaker 1: stuff still kind of lingered, but not so much anymore
Speaker 1: because a lot of them, the older folks have passed
Speaker 1: away now, like all my great grandparents are are passed
Speaker 1: now and just to my grandparents now, so it's changing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like for sure, like they're not they weren't cool, like, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm growing. Like I remember popping some of my first
Speaker 1: seeds and uh well in PC's. But I went finally
Speaker 1: wised up and bought a uh like a tool cover
Speaker 1: from Lows. I put some fans in and then I
Speaker 1: actually cut a big dresser in the pieces and took
Speaker 1: the front of the drawers off and smart and glued
Speaker 1: them on. So yeah, I was like, man, I can't
Speaker 1: cut through metals. So I was like, I need somebody
Speaker 1: that's wood. So I switched over to big dresser, took
Speaker 1: the drawers out, took the front of the drawers off
Speaker 1: and made like a little growing there. And I have,
Speaker 1: of course shoe box runner hadro or I guess aeroponics
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, but yeah, just a airstone.
Speaker 1: But yeah, dude, good times. I don't know. Bringing me back, Matt,
Speaker 1: I got a little tear, a little fucking diamond shaped
Speaker 1: watery tear forming my thinking.
Speaker 3: See, it should be giving you, giving you hope for
Speaker 3: the future, because, like I said, out of all the
Speaker 3: bad experiences, the best experience I had was losing everything
Speaker 3: and coming back to work Blueberry, and that ended up
Speaker 3: being my passion, like really, and it was my passion
Speaker 3: before that, but I had already done it. I didn't
Speaker 3: feel like I had done it well enough to where
Speaker 3: I could ever put potency into what I had, but
Speaker 3: I had the terps right, But whatever Lone Star did
Speaker 3: was all the difference and taking that work bringing it
Speaker 3: on much further, And none of that would have happened,
Speaker 3: you know, without a fuck up. So sometimes the funk
Speaker 3: up could be a good thing, as bad as it
Speaker 3: feels when it's going on or not knowing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is more.
Speaker 5: And that's the thing too, is that we don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything. They're all just guesses and stuff.
Speaker 1: And like we do you more, do more testing and
Speaker 1: ship and and there is a new pathway for me.
Speaker 1: So I'm not you know, I gotta I gotta take
Speaker 1: some blue shoes, Matt. I gotta come back cock strong.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: Swash them cold water in my fucking face because I'm
Speaker 1: being a bitch right now.
Speaker 3: Matt.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know you got this. I got this, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I started to be me and gloomy
Speaker 1: and break the fourth wall for you guys. I know you.
Speaker 5: Some of you guys hate it. Some of you guys
Speaker 5: like the character and have fun.
Speaker 1: But I just didn't really feel like that that was
Speaker 1: really a good thing to do when we're talking about
Speaker 1: some of these more serious things. Yeah, people don't know
Speaker 1: when I'm joking or being serious. It's obvious now to
Speaker 1: me that a lot of people don't. So I think
Speaker 1: just being a little serious for once, doesn't you know,
Speaker 1: I can't help out. Maybe there's somebody out there with
Speaker 1: these same questions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some people are very simple and don't get a
Speaker 3: joke or a character. Yeah, you know, it's fun, that's
Speaker 3: what makes it funny sometimes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just fun.
Speaker 3: It's hilarious, the trill on everyone else.
Speaker 1: I am a normal guy, you know, I like big kiddies.
Speaker 1: You know I do weird ship.
Speaker 5: I'm a weird guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I can't say I ever played Pokemon go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be fucking.
Speaker 5: Those people are weird, dude, those are weird.
Speaker 1: Weird, those dude weird.
Speaker 3: Don't ever ask me for my pokey.
Speaker 1: Remember, I want to know your pokey dicks. What you
Speaker 1: got in that pokey dicks? We don't even want to
Speaker 1: know read that pokey decks open more.
Speaker 3: So, we're about one hour. Wrap it up, Cody, Thank
Speaker 3: you for all the love. Everybody who pitched in tonight.
Speaker 3: Thank you like it means the world. We've been demonetized
Speaker 3: for so long. It's weird to even see a dollar
Speaker 3: amount next to anything, and it all adds up.
Speaker 1: I hear you, bro.
Speaker 5: By the way, I didn't saw this, KT said, he
Speaker 5: on a stem rub on his banana.
Speaker 3: Ta.
Speaker 1: He had some big red cinnamon thing. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I want to see that bad boy. Yeah that girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, now try you watch the go oh pokemono
Speaker 1: oh man.
Speaker 3: This is him. His eyes are barely opening. Pinser's been
Speaker 3: working hard on her for six days. He shut up
Speaker 3: with all kinds of fleas. He's just a hanging around
Speaker 3: for a little bit Right now, we're just trying to
Speaker 3: foster him through the hard stuff that he's dealing with.
Speaker 3: Then we're gonna get hopefully we'll find him a cool
Speaker 3: house somewhere closer. I can visit him, because we're already
Speaker 3: pretty tight homies, and so has Pincer. She's an awesome
Speaker 3: fucking mom. And I feel I've been down all week
Speaker 3: and that this took a lot, and she she took
Speaker 3: on a lot to do it. So shout out to
Speaker 3: the pins were keeping little little all over a life.
Speaker 1: Hell, yeah, man, I know what you're going through. Man,
Speaker 1: You know, to talk to you about all the fostering
Speaker 1: and of kittens from my old lady. Uh stuff was
Speaker 1: that's her was her job for a long time. And
Speaker 1: I've lost a lot of kittens, man, over the years.
Speaker 1: It's it's not fun, dude's especially if you got any
Speaker 1: kind of time invested in them.
Speaker 5: And yeah, yeah, you lose them and yeah.
Speaker 1: Dude, Uh side story yesterday pouring down rain, ten o'clock
Speaker 1: in the morning. Here, I got a bunch of new chickens, man,
Speaker 1: I got a bunch of Rhode Island reds. Nice this,
Speaker 1: you know. I got a bunch of big black Jersey giants.
Speaker 1: That's not a joke.
Speaker 5: They're literally that's what they're called.
Speaker 1: Uh, and they're giant chickens, right, but they they're making
Speaker 1: some noise outside.
Speaker 5: Matt, I'm in the r V.
Speaker 1: You know, I got an RV that I'm staying in
Speaker 1: a little bit. I gotta you know, I'm doing some
Speaker 1: water white type ship out in the middle of nowhere. Anyways, Uh,
Speaker 1: I hit my chickens squawking, right, I said, I said,
Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 5: And of course I got I'm jacking off.
Speaker 1: So I got a little bit clean up, run up
Speaker 1: that's going on out there. I opened a gate. I'm
Speaker 1: twenty foot away from the coop. As I come around
Speaker 1: the coop, I'm seeing a speculative fir. I'm like, what
Speaker 1: is that. I come around the corner, big ass male
Speaker 1: Kodi there. Brother, You're gonna say, oh shit. Do you
Speaker 1: know it was Mail? Well? When he ran away, he
Speaker 1: took a piss and I saw his dick. But anyway,
Speaker 1: he's sitting there trying to get my chickens, dude, and
Speaker 1: I go, what the fuck you doing? Bitch? Yeah, he
Speaker 1: didn't know what was going on. You know, daytime they
Speaker 1: can't see very well at daytime. Like Hannah Night took
Speaker 1: out running not running. Actually, he kind of just walked
Speaker 1: away about fifteen twenty foot away, turns around in the field,
Speaker 1: looks back at me. I said, what are you doing?
Speaker 5: When you get out of here, You're gonna get shot, dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, not with a weapon, but you know
Speaker 1: with the shot. You know, moon some kind of moon shot,
Speaker 1: you know that kind of stuff. I don't know, come
Speaker 1: shot whatever.
Speaker 5: He's backshot.
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at him and like, you need to
Speaker 1: get out of here, dude, And he's just standing there.
Speaker 5: He just takes a piss.
Speaker 1: He's standing my mother fucking step my or my step
Speaker 1: and my mother in law. She's like, now you got
Speaker 1: to go out there in the middlefield and piss where
Speaker 1: it pissed. Let it show. Yeah, I know, but it's
Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of wide opening a beanfield, right.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to trying to catch a charge here, Matt. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, I've never been to the island and I
Speaker 1: don't want to go.
Speaker 3: So yeah.
Speaker 1: But my point to all this is, uh, I saw kayode.
Speaker 3: Matt, and I was saying, and it almost took your cock.
Speaker 1: It almost took my cock, and I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: this is the third time I've seen a coyote that
Speaker 1: closed up like that. I've seen him take a deer
Speaker 1: down before, roughly in the same spot in the middle
Speaker 1: of the daytime, and then I've seen that, and I said, dude,
Speaker 1: this is war. So that's what I'm dealing with right now, Matt.
Speaker 1: I wish I could go in the detail on this
Speaker 1: platform and tell you what I'm the extent of what
Speaker 1: I'm about to go through to take care guys. Uh,
Speaker 1: it involves some meadal gilt gear solid that one level ship.
Speaker 1: Let's say that.
Speaker 5: But we're gonna make them disappear, Matt. They've gotta go
Speaker 5: Jewish space placers.
Speaker 1: That's what we'll say.
Speaker 3: Let them play with your cock.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyways, Yeah, So sorry for the rant, guys. I
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys tuning in supporting me for these last
Speaker 1: few months. But like I said, I think I just
Speaker 1: put kind of the end of my journey as far
Speaker 1: as what I've been doing.
Speaker 5: That doesn't mean I'm going anywhere.
Speaker 1: But I do think that, uh, all my stuff's pulled
Speaker 1: at this point except for CSI packs that I got.
Speaker 5: I'm just doing trying to get rid of or whatever
Speaker 5: to help pay for some ship.
Speaker 1: But that's kind of it. Guys.
Speaker 5: I do have a little community if you want to
Speaker 5: join it on fluxu.
Speaker 1: It's on my Instagram links h with your Instagram Chuck
Speaker 1: Dizzel three thousand, three thousand, And.
Speaker 3: You should also check out the YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a YouTube channel. I do like the
Speaker 1: AI slot music maybe a lot lot of lately, I've
Speaker 1: been trying to do stuff mainly on cannabis focused stuff
Speaker 1: with that hilarious and good.
Speaker 5: That's just fun.
Speaker 1: It's away to that fun. I don't take it that serious.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of people that write me inside
Speaker 1: they appreciate it. And some people write me say fuck
Speaker 1: you for using AI, and I just say you right back.
Speaker 5: Because you know, I don't care it is fuck you.
Speaker 1: I am a bot now what yep? I say?
Speaker 5: You guys can kiss my ass exactly kindly.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll be having this episode up on audio podcasts
Speaker 3: some point tonight. It takes a little longer to do
Speaker 3: it from Rumble through audio Adobe audition and transitioning and
Speaker 3: getting it up through Spreaker and iTunes and all that,
Speaker 3: and so give it a little bit. It'll be up
Speaker 3: tonight and Chuck, I love you, thank you for showing
Speaker 3: up and means the world to me. Hopefully, hopefully a
Speaker 3: little Oliver will be back next week and even more
Speaker 3: spray for him. But he's a pretty happy dude.
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, thanks for any of them.
Speaker 3: If any of you are in Bakersfield and are good
Speaker 3: with kittens, it has to be some it's special.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I take I take his ass if we're closer, matt.
Speaker 3: Man for me, like with my depression and how often
Speaker 3: that rears its head, it's been like and what would
Speaker 3: I be the best person for him type things? So
Speaker 3: I had another time in my life, it would easily
Speaker 3: be staying. But we'll see how it all goes. We
Speaker 3: see how it all goes.
Speaker 5: It's a universe time to tell you something you just
Speaker 5: don't know what it is yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly all right. As always, since it is rumble,
Speaker 3: I've got to show all right. Lots of love.
Speaker 5: Everyone, Love you, Chuck, Yes, love you too, guy soon soon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and thanks for everybody tuning in and uh supporting, donating,
Speaker 1: supporting all of it, all of you have a good weekend.
Speaker 1: Tears years later,