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<v Speaker 1>At the drone warfare, AI algorithms, the alien deception and

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<v Speaker 1>how this all relates to the coming one world government.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, it is all very very closely related.

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<v Speaker 1>And breaking it down for us today is our guest

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<v Speaker 2>Jay Daya, thank you so much for joining us today.

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<v Speaker 2>We appreciate you being here.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Maria. I'm glad to be back with you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a hot minute since we've done a broadcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've covered so many interesting things like the project

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Beam Delusion. We've spoken about some writings of Father

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<v Speaker 1>Seraphim Rose in the past, and the deception of the

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<v Speaker 1>end times. And now it seems that the UFO alien

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<v Speaker 1>deception is rearing its ugly head like we've never seen before,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, specifically sparked on by these drones. So I

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<v Speaker 1>am very very keen to hear from you about the

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<v Speaker 1>history of this and why they're moving in this direction.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they seem to roll this out every few months

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<v Speaker 3>when it's useful. I'm not sure exactly what the motives

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<v Speaker 3>are behind the present situation, because there could be many

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<v Speaker 3>things going on. They might be setting up a false

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<v Speaker 3>flag situation where the drones are blamed on some other

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<v Speaker 3>country and we're being invaded. I think they tested that

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<v Speaker 3>with Iran at the beginning, or they might flip it

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<v Speaker 3>over into oh, you know, supporters of Trump conservatives are

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<v Speaker 3>going to engage in some kind of false flag event.

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<v Speaker 3>It also could be a situation where they are ultimately

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<v Speaker 3>just trying to reinvigorate the alien deception narrative, And it

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<v Speaker 3>is something that we've talked about a lot, because this

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<v Speaker 3>is a long term narrative and myth that they've been

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<v Speaker 3>pushing and creating by design, according to some of their

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<v Speaker 3>own white papers, like the nineteen sixties nineteen sixty Brooking

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<v Speaker 3>Institute paper, which says that the discovery of alien life

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<v Speaker 3>would upend all of the Western Biblical tradition because it

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<v Speaker 3>would undermine the incarnation, and then they could really steer

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<v Speaker 3>us into a new religion with some kind of so

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<v Speaker 3>called alien life announcement. So all those things are on

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<v Speaker 3>the table, all those things are relevant. Exactly what they're

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<v Speaker 3>up to, I don't know, but everybody always jumps on aliens,

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<v Speaker 3>which I think is just so ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm actually I was very grateful that Alen Musk

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<v Speaker 1>called this out and he posted this meme. Everyone please

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<v Speaker 1>stop creating fake narratives for ball government Iran. The Iranian mothership.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's really interesting people are seeing through all

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<v Speaker 1>of this. But what I am concerned about, Jay, is

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<v Speaker 1>that you know a lot of people in our.

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<v Speaker 2>Audience as well.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll say to me, oh, but you know alien the

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<v Speaker 1>evidence for aliens or whatever the case may be, And

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<v Speaker 1>my biblical worldview is that this is demonic activity. And

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<v Speaker 1>so you mentioned something recently on an Info Wars broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>that I thought was fantastic, which was the Mirage Men,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd love for you to talk people through how

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<v Speaker 1>people were actually sioped into being proponents of the UFO conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 3>Only mothership I care about its p Funk's mothership. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, but I always.

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<v Speaker 3>The most the most famous Funk in the world. Their

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<v Speaker 3>theme is a mothership. Yeah. So I think the history

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<v Speaker 3>of this is really what tells the story. When we

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<v Speaker 3>go back to H. G. Wells, we go back to

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<v Speaker 3>people who were the premier propagandists of their of their time.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a war propaganda a fabian socialist, high level freemason,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's one of the key figures in crafting the

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<v Speaker 3>entire alien narrative. He wrote War the Worlds or the

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<v Speaker 3>Worlds is probably the biggest alien sci fi story of

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<v Speaker 3>all time, been remade many, many times, most recently by Spielberg.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think, you know, this is a long term

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<v Speaker 3>myth that they've had the Western power structure that they've

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<v Speaker 3>been pushing on purpose. You know, when we come up

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<v Speaker 3>to the nineteen four I'll talk about Mirageman in a second,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think you have to lay the groundwork with

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<v Speaker 3>the long history deception in this domain and how flimsy

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<v Speaker 3>all the so called alien proofs are and the claims

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<v Speaker 3>around it. They're just laughable. You know. You have the

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<v Speaker 3>Roswell event with this military guy holding up a piece

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<v Speaker 3>of tinfoil and saying that it was an alien ship

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<v Speaker 3>that crashed.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a pullar.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just like a polar You have the story of

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<v Speaker 3>the first abductees, Georgia Damski history is mimicked from a

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<v Speaker 3>fam a science fiction novel at that time about being

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<v Speaker 3>taken up and seeing large breasted Venusian women on a ship.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all obviously absurd. And the weird part though, is

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<v Speaker 3>that you have people at the CIA actually defending the

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<v Speaker 3>head of the CIA al and dullest defendant and threatened

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<v Speaker 3>to lot to take the court threaten lawsuits against anyone

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<v Speaker 3>who would challenge Georgia Damski. So why would they be

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<v Speaker 3>covering up and pushing something so ridiculous as this. The

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<v Speaker 3>first alien cult people were also early abductees Betty and

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<v Speaker 3>Barney Hill. They're immediately involved in weird occultic alien ritual groups.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just it's just all really bizarre. There's

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<v Speaker 3>no there's only substantial to ever suggest that there's extraterrestrial

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<v Speaker 3>life or extra bio, extra threscial biological life EDES or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with you that, yeah, there's a lot of craft,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of unexplained things that could be chalked

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<v Speaker 3>up to angelic phenomenon, demons, angels, whatever. But when we

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<v Speaker 3>look at this whole genre, if you go back to

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<v Speaker 3>the MJ twelve documents, you have a bunch of people

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<v Speaker 3>that are involved in psychological operations who if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>know those people, don't tell the truth. Psyops is how

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<v Speaker 3>to lie and trick people, and there's always a close

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<v Speaker 3>connection between the alien stuff and psyops. If you look

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<v Speaker 3>at the Aviary, which is a group of a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of military contractors and former intelligence agents, one of whom

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<v Speaker 3>I think is Richard dody They're also involved in black ops.

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<v Speaker 3>They're also involved in pushing the alien narrative. And Doty

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<v Speaker 3>is important because he's a key figure in the documentary

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<v Speaker 3>that you mentioned called Miraje Men. I think everybody should

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<v Speaker 3>watch that documentary because it's an interview with various people

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<v Speaker 3>like Dodie and others who was working in Air Force counterintelligence,

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<v Speaker 3>and his story is about how he would pick very

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<v Speaker 3>people to disseminate disinformation to and he taught document is

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<v Speaker 3>not just about him. It also goes in a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of other people too, But it's the stories of people

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<v Speaker 3>who are chosen to be disseminators of disinformation. Particularly they're

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<v Speaker 3>taken to military bases, they're given all these weird, fake

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<v Speaker 3>stories and they're told, all you're special. We want you

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<v Speaker 3>to go out and tell everybody about the secret deal

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<v Speaker 3>that the government's made with the Pleaateans or whatever, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's all just made up. They even talk about the

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<v Speaker 3>Hollywood people that they bring into film and craft the

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<v Speaker 3>stories and narratives, and I think that's another indicator that

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<v Speaker 3>this is all just wrapped up in deception, and why

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<v Speaker 3>would we believe the government on any of this stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, Like it's the government is

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<v Speaker 3>now pushing the narrative that we reverse engineered crashed craft.

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<v Speaker 3>That's resurrecting the Roswell story. We have advanced technology from

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<v Speaker 3>alien beings. You know, they're pushing this. They had the

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<v Speaker 3>hearings in Congress last year or whatever. It's just really

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<v Speaker 3>absurd if you if you look into it.

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<v Speaker 1>In every character, who was it that came out from

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<v Speaker 1>that jay and they said that they went to some briefing.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember the men's name, but he said Americans

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<v Speaker 1>should be terrified.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a couple of figures that are pushing this. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean there's Auvi Loeb who says that there's motherships off

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<v Speaker 3>the Jewish guy, Auvy Loob, and then there's Louise Loasondo

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<v Speaker 3>is another one of these figures who's been to the

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<v Speaker 3>briefings and he's yeah, so what's funny is that the

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<v Speaker 3>people that you see now, the Tom DeLong from b

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<v Speaker 3>linkeln ighty two is pushing the alien stuff. These people interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>They fit the profile of exactly what Dodie talks about

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<v Speaker 3>in the documentary where he says, we find these narcissistic

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<v Speaker 3>people who think that they're chosen to deliver this message,

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<v Speaker 3>and we use them to spit out whatever nonsense we

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<v Speaker 3>feed them, and they leave it. So I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>when you talk about the Blink one eighty two guy,

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<v Speaker 3>he's a perfect example of that. And he just says, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I talked to the generals and they told me it's real.

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<v Speaker 3>There's real alien. It's like as if a general doesn't lie,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, what are you talking about. Military people are

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<v Speaker 3>trained to lie. CIA is trained to lie. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>they do. So yeah, I mean, I'm sorry, I'm rambling,

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<v Speaker 3>but I just think if you anywhere you really poke

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<v Speaker 3>holes in this whole story, that you just end up

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<v Speaker 3>at CIA Black Ops. And that doesn't exclude, like you

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<v Speaker 3>talked about earlier, private corporations, those are always military dustrial complexes,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a public private joining at the hips, so

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<v Speaker 3>all these things overlap. This is the military dustra complex

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<v Speaker 3>that we were warned about that's ruling us and running

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<v Speaker 3>us into the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, Well, I want to talk about that briefly. So

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<v Speaker 1>this just came out that the government is I said,

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<v Speaker 1>the government is letting Black Rock and Co fly.

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<v Speaker 2>Drones in Brooklyn in the midst.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a drone crisis, although I did correct it and

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<v Speaker 1>say it may not necessarily be in the midst of

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<v Speaker 1>a drone crisis.

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<v Speaker 2>The official story.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the company that's affiliated with Black Rock had

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<v Speaker 1>a party a little while ago and this drone was

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<v Speaker 1>left over, which is super convenient. But nonetheless they're saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing that's coming out of this is that

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<v Speaker 1>we need to outlaw civilian owned drones or put restrictions

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<v Speaker 1>on that. In the meantime, you have Pallanteer at the

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<v Speaker 1>Army versus Navy game, you know, airing there ad about

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<v Speaker 1>the mothership and drones coming out and how we win

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<v Speaker 1>before it's even started, almost rubbing it in the faces

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<v Speaker 1>of Americans for goodness sake. So we're gonna we are

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<v Speaker 1>winning the drone war. We're winning this syop. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>get to own drones to counter the potential ways in

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<v Speaker 1>which this will be later on utilized to used against civilians.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really twisted.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think of a couple of fiction stories recently.

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<v Speaker 3>Black Mirror had an episode where there were AI Autonomus

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<v Speaker 3>drones that were basically targeting and assassinating various people. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not saying that's necessarily gonna happen, But I mean I

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<v Speaker 3>that might be possible that, you know, you could have

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<v Speaker 3>it with sky Neet, there's a potentiality for the technocratic

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<v Speaker 3>So I think we have to be totally opposed to

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<v Speaker 3>So it's all connected in a massive web of deception.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a public private corporate. I mean, that's really what

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<v Speaker 3>is the actual deep state that runs us and has

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of this you know, advanced technicology that they

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<v Speaker 3>want to roll out as a tech control. That's what's

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<v Speaker 3>probably about. So when you say they want to ban

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<v Speaker 3>it for their average citizen or anybody else, that's exactly right,

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<v Speaker 3>because they want to have total control, as the Pentagon

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<v Speaker 3>of life, which just happens to be exactly what Davos

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<v Speaker 2>Says, yeah, that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's exactly what came out of the joint statement

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<v Speaker 1>from the DHS, FBI, FAA, and DoD which basically said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing to see. First it was no, it's not happening.

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<v Speaker 1>see here. It's a combination of civilian drones and other things.

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<v Speaker 1>But we recognize the concern I'm quoting now among many communities.

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<v Speaker 1>urge Congress to enact counter uas legislation when it reconvenes

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<v Speaker 1>that would extend and expand existing counter drone authorities to

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<v Speaker 1>identify and mitigate any threat that may emerge. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course this includes the limited use of civilian drones. And

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<v Speaker 1>so when you consider the future of drone warfare, and

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<v Speaker 1>as well, where the future battlefield is drones like this is,

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<v Speaker 1>and consider that they know far ahead of what we know.

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<v Speaker 1>We've already seen the deployment of drones targeting civilians in

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<v Speaker 1>the Middle East, for example. This is kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>future that these technocrats would have for us. You say

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<v Speaker 1>it may not get that bad, But what's to say

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<v Speaker 1>it couldn't. What's to say that you wouldn't train an

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<v Speaker 1>AI to say anyone that admits too much CO two

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<v Speaker 1>is a threat to the planet thus needs to be eliminated.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's send the drone after them. I mean that we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a murderous class of people here. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get your take on something, Jay, because you met

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<v Speaker 1>you you recently mentioned that really at the heart of

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<v Speaker 1>so much of this alien deception really is the move

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<v Speaker 1>towards the world order. Like they've always said that this

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of going to be what dismantles Christianity and

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<v Speaker 1>all this sort of stuff. I've brought this up so

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<v Speaker 1>many times, but I'm going to keep doing it because

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<v Speaker 1>this is absolutely shocking. The un seventy five an unexpected

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<v Speaker 1>message from the future. So this is Vinton's surf, who

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<v Speaker 1>they call the Evangelist of the Internet, saying I was

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<v Speaker 1>mucking around with some frequencies and then this being contacted

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<v Speaker 1>me from the year twenty forty five and said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty is the year that we found out that

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<v Speaker 2>Tackle global warming.

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<v Speaker 1>Global warming to make it to the year twenty forty five,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what they say, the past twenty five years

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<v Speaker 2>So first of all, the UN is.

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<v Speaker 1>Communicating with some unknown entity, demon thing that's saying you

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<v Speaker 1>So what a psychopathic organization. But secondly, again this is

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<v Speaker 1>this common pattern of talking to these entities, and we

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<v Speaker 1>see that with so many We see that with Crowley

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to us about that aspect.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean early on, when the UN was me

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<v Speaker 3>in its sort of formative stages, you had the people

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<v Speaker 3>behind it were big supporters of Madame Lebatski, the first

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<v Speaker 3>famous theosophist. So the UN's birth really comes out of

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<v Speaker 3>the ideology of people like Rothschild, Rhodes Milner, and they

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<v Speaker 3>Levatski might be a potential future world religion. They've batted

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<v Speaker 3>Christian Science. None of those actually panned out, but what

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<v Speaker 3>when the UN is eventually created with some kind of

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<v Speaker 3>loose New agey sort of religion. You mentioned Bailey. Her

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<v Speaker 3>works are still promoted and printed by UN affiliate groups.

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<v Speaker 3>So this idea of channeling and talking to ascended masters,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's been there since Bolbaski, Bailey, Anni Vassant,

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<v Speaker 3>United Nations. They've always been claiming to talk to these entities.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether that's true or not. I think in Bolbatski's case,

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<v Speaker 3>she had people from the British government investigate her and

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<v Speaker 3>they thought she was a fraud. So she was writing

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<v Speaker 3>her own letters from the ascended Masters, which just happened

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<v Speaker 3>to back up everything that she taught and what she

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to be the case. So in Bailey's case, she

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<v Speaker 3>wrote a ten point plan to take over the West

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<v Speaker 3>and Detroit Christianity. I did a podcast on that about

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<v Speaker 3>a year ago. So we know what the goal of

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<v Speaker 3>those people is, and it is to create a new

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<v Speaker 3>world religion. And you mentioned this more recent person here

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<v Speaker 3>with channeling. I didn't know about this one, but the

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<v Speaker 3>UN has this long I mean They basically always been

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<v Speaker 3>doing this. If you go back to the nineteen eighties,

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<v Speaker 3>they had a guy David who was their channeler, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was talking about the great world Teacher that was coming.

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<v Speaker 3>I have his book over here. He talks about the

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<v Speaker 3>cosmic Christ, and it's always some channeled, weird, supposed off

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<v Speaker 3>world entity, which like you are, I think hinting at,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of matches up to aliens, right, I mean the psychonauts,

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<v Speaker 3>all those guys too, whether it's Tim of the Tim Leary,

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<v Speaker 3>Terrence McKenna. When they talk about the entities that they encounter,

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<v Speaker 3>John z Lili too, Uh, they say that, you know

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<v Speaker 3>it's they're they're in another dimension and they're giving me

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<v Speaker 3>true they're giving me information and creativity and ideas, And

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<v Speaker 3>that I do think is real because I think I've

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<v Speaker 3>had my own experiences on LSD and I've seen what

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<v Speaker 3>you interact with very close to what people who do

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<v Speaker 3>DMT say when they talk to the clockwork elves and

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<v Speaker 3>the d MT entities say, you know, create a one

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<v Speaker 3>roll government, kill all the people, you know, de arm yourselves,

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll you know, will help you save the world

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<v Speaker 3>because there's a coming crisis. So the purpose of this

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<v Speaker 3>is the same with when Reagan said at the United

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<v Speaker 3>Nations that an off world threat from alien entities could

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<v Speaker 3>unite the world in a world government. And I keep

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<v Speaker 3>going back to science fiction and movies on purpose because

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<v Speaker 3>watched since you were a little kid, one hundred alien

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<v Speaker 3>movies and TV shows, you're already just primed with the

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<v Speaker 3>alien presubpositions and narrative. And so this this narrative has

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<v Speaker 3>been there since et I grew up in the eighties,

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, I'm supposed to love the aliens when

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<v Speaker 3>they come. Again, I don't think there's aliens, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think it is ultimately a demonic deception. Even people from

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<v Speaker 3>the establishment who are not Christians, people like doctor Jacques

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<v Speaker 3>Vallee have written you know, famous books about how he

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<v Speaker 3>even he realized that this is some kind of big deception,

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<v Speaker 3>and he even says it's not off world, it's something

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<v Speaker 3>to do with entities. Here again, the psychonauts, the things

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<v Speaker 3>that they channel and talk to, same thing that people

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<v Speaker 3>that do DMT. It's always the same message of have

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<v Speaker 3>a world government create a new religion, there's a crisis coming,

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<v Speaker 3>the planet has to be depopulated. It's always the same stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and it just happens to be the very message that

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's really fascinating. And I know people that have

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<v Speaker 2>It's always the same.

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<v Speaker 1>You reference the Ronald Reagan quote, perhaps we need some

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<v Speaker 1>outside universal threat to make us recognize.

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<v Speaker 2>This common bond.

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<v Speaker 1>I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever watched the movie Day the Earth Stood Still?

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<v Speaker 3>very good, but the original movie I don't mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think the original one is that good. But that

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<v Speaker 3>was one of the earliest narrative propaganda movies about extraterrestrial

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<v Speaker 3>beings coming here and giving us a message to like

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<v Speaker 3>save the world. And if you watch the movie, the

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<v Speaker 3>that's coming to destroy everybody. I think his name is

420
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<v Speaker 3>Klatu or something, and those beings when they get here,

421
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<v Speaker 3>they say, if you don't disarm yourselves, so gun control,

422
00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:43.839
<v Speaker 3>no nukes, and all this kind of stuff, and if

423
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<v Speaker 3>you don't create a world government run by scientists, then

424
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<v Speaker 3>you will be destroyed. So the idea of one of

425
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<v Speaker 3>the first big alien movies that was creating I think

426
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<v Speaker 3>it was twentieth Century Fox. And by the way, the

427
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<v Speaker 3>guy who was running that production company was involved in

428
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<v Speaker 3>that film, Zanuk. I think he was working with the

429
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<v Speaker 3>OSS and government intelligence. So you've got people from the

430
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<v Speaker 3>OSS CIA working on movies from the very beginning about aliens. C. D. Jackson,

431
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<v Speaker 3>who was involved in the CIA's doctrinal warfare program to

432
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<v Speaker 3>co opt the churches to be used as instruments of

433
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<v Speaker 3>the CIA in the Cold War. He was also working

434
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<v Speaker 3>and helping to craft movies for twenty sidree Fox at

435
00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:31.799
<v Speaker 3>this time relating to aliens. So you've got the guy

436
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<v Speaker 3>who wants to control the narratives that people in the

437
00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:39.839
<v Speaker 3>religious world believe in Hollywood trying to help craft alien

438
00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:42.920
<v Speaker 3>movie narratives which is new religion we're supposed to believe

439
00:25:43.359 --> 00:25:46.279
<v Speaker 3>and just think about panspermia. This is the view that

440
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<v Speaker 3>a lot of actually famous scientists, Newton and others. Watson Creek,

441
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<v Speaker 3>I think one of the two of those, believed in panspermia.

442
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<v Speaker 3>This is the idea that we were seated here by

443
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<v Speaker 3>alien life and we're kind of a genetic experiment by

444
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<v Speaker 3>some awfworld entity. They're coming back to check on us,

445
00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:04.039
<v Speaker 3>and they need to tend us, and they have to

446
00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:06.519
<v Speaker 3>breed us, and they have to depopulate us like we're

447
00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:09.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, deer or something like that. I mean, that

448
00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:12.599
<v Speaker 3>narrative is going to be. It fits into technocracy, it

449
00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:16.920
<v Speaker 3>fits into transhumanism. It's if it's into Darwinism, and that's

450
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<v Speaker 3>what I think will be a big deception in the

451
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<v Speaker 3>coming future.

452
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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you, and I want to ask. So

453
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<v Speaker 1>we've already had some religious leaders, you know, adding to this.

454
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<v Speaker 1>Pope friends is famously talking about the need to potentially

455
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<v Speaker 1>baptize aliens. Just my goodness, I can never get over that.

456
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<v Speaker 1>Just the complete heresy of a statement like that, it's

457
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<v Speaker 1>just crazy. But the contribution of I just did an

458
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<v Speaker 1>interview recently JA where we spoke about. I spoke with

459
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<v Speaker 1>Alex Newman and we spoke about the UN's recent climate

460
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<v Speaker 1>conference in Azerbaijan and a lot of their inter faith

461
00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:03.920
<v Speaker 1>things where they're talking about, you know, even previously the

462
00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:07.039
<v Speaker 1>New Ten Commandments for a Better Earth and all of

463
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:09.359
<v Speaker 1>this sort of stuff where all these religious leaders are

464
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<v Speaker 1>joining in and saying, Yah, let's go hard with a

465
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<v Speaker 1>humanism so that we.

466
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<v Speaker 2>Can create world peace.

467
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's crazy, but all of this is actually

468
00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:19.039
<v Speaker 1>related to all of that. So I want to ask

469
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<v Speaker 1>you what is the problem with the human condition where

470
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<v Speaker 1>they look to some sort of external savior but they

471
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<v Speaker 1>won't look to the actual savior, Jesus Christ.

472
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<v Speaker 2>What is it that draws them?

473
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<v Speaker 1>Because it really does say something about the human condition

474
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<v Speaker 1>that those who believe that aliens are coming to save

475
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:41.279
<v Speaker 1>us are actually still looking for a savior, right, Yeah, that's.

476
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<v Speaker 3>An interesting point. Yeah. It seems like there's a natural,

477
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:50.279
<v Speaker 3>innate desire that humans have for God. Obviously we're made

478
00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:53.599
<v Speaker 3>for God, so we're going to have that inclination. But

479
00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:57.839
<v Speaker 3>because we're falling, we seek to fill that with all

480
00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:01.319
<v Speaker 3>these other things. The reason that we look to other

481
00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:04.599
<v Speaker 3>things is that we want to continue the way we are.

482
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<v Speaker 3>We don't want to have to change anything. We don't

483
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:08.000
<v Speaker 3>want to have to say, oh, I was wrong, I

484
00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:11.920
<v Speaker 3>made a mistake. This this has got to change, you know.

485
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<v Speaker 3>In the New Testament it talks about Paul says to

486
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<v Speaker 3>Timothy that in the future people will listen to false

487
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:22.720
<v Speaker 3>teachers who will tell them what their itching ears want

488
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:25.920
<v Speaker 3>to hear. So the message in the narrative of the

489
00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:30.279
<v Speaker 3>u n and the coming fake world religion and all

490
00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:32.559
<v Speaker 3>this kind of stuff, it's in the New Age itself.

491
00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:35.759
<v Speaker 3>It's always like you are God, you're your own ruler,

492
00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:38.920
<v Speaker 3>you're your own creator. You give everything meaning, which is

493
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<v Speaker 3>the very thing that Satan tempted Adam and Eve with.

494
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<v Speaker 3>You know, did God really say that you will be

495
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<v Speaker 3>like God? And that's why he doesn't want you to,

496
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:50.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, have fun or whatever. It's the same message

497
00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:52.400
<v Speaker 3>as Satan in the Garden. Ironically, you would think that

498
00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:54.440
<v Speaker 3>we would be able to figure it out, but I

499
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:57.759
<v Speaker 3>think humans humans want to you know, that they're always

500
00:28:57.759 --> 00:29:01.200
<v Speaker 3>going to choose the power where they think that they're

501
00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:06.799
<v Speaker 3>getting a shortcut, they think they're getting they're basically humans

502
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:11.440
<v Speaker 3>are basically self worshippers. They worship themselves and you have

503
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:14.799
<v Speaker 3>to be broken from that, you know, usually through some

504
00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:17.279
<v Speaker 3>kind of event or something where God humbles you and

505
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:20.000
<v Speaker 3>then you repent and you realize, oh, I'm not actually God,

506
00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:21.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm not the son of the universe, I'm not my

507
00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:25.640
<v Speaker 3>own meaning maker. Meaning has to be found outside of myself.

508
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:27.599
<v Speaker 3>And so that's that's where we have to come to,

509
00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:31.960
<v Speaker 3>I think, before we start to believe. But people like

510
00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:34.759
<v Speaker 3>at the un or Davos and Clouds and these people

511
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:38.720
<v Speaker 3>like they are unknowingly probably maybe some of them knowingly

512
00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:42.960
<v Speaker 3>subservient to fallen spiritual powers, so they actually work for

513
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:47.759
<v Speaker 3>the entity who is the real alien entity that fell

514
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:49.759
<v Speaker 3>from heaven a long time ago. I mean, the closest

515
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:52.640
<v Speaker 3>thing I think to like the alien stories, Actually, Lucifer

516
00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:55.240
<v Speaker 3>fell from heaven like lightning, right, that's kind of an

517
00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:58.759
<v Speaker 3>alien story. You could say, yeah.

518
00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm so fast this ja because you're saying and you're right,

519
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:04.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, we've got to reach this point of humility

520
00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:06.519
<v Speaker 1>and we don't want to change, and all of that

521
00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:07.319
<v Speaker 1>is true.

522
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:08.440
<v Speaker 2>That's the human condition.

523
00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>It certainly was mine at one point where I just

524
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:12.480
<v Speaker 1>knew I needed to repent and didn't want to.

525
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:18.279
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's happened to all of us. But imagine being.

526
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>A person, and this is because so many people are

527
00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:23.000
<v Speaker 1>captivated by the UFO stuff, right, Imagine being a person

528
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:28.319
<v Speaker 1>that rejects the biblical worldview because they don't want to change,

529
00:30:28.359 --> 00:30:30.680
<v Speaker 1>but they're willing to accept someone telling them, yeah, we've

530
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:33.400
<v Speaker 1>got to depopulate, We've got to cut off our energy

531
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:38.279
<v Speaker 1>used to save the trees. That I can't I can't

532
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>really understand how you can be in such a deep

533
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.799
<v Speaker 1>deception like that. I mean, how do people get to

534
00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:48.839
<v Speaker 1>that point? Is just purely propaganda. Plus the sinful condition

535
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:50.319
<v Speaker 1>is that all it takes.

536
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:56.039
<v Speaker 3>Well also our own choices. I mean, humans are accountable.

537
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<v Speaker 3>So you know, if you've been raised from infancy and

538
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:05.880
<v Speaker 3>childhood with aliens and alien movies and all the propaganda

539
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:10.559
<v Speaker 3>and all the Darwinism taught in the education system, and

540
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:13.279
<v Speaker 3>you know, you're just a monkey and all this, I mean, yeah,

541
00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:16.079
<v Speaker 3>I think we're all and humans are also kind of

542
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:19.400
<v Speaker 3>pack herd creatures, and so that, you know, they want

543
00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:22.960
<v Speaker 3>to go along with what they think everyone else believes

544
00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:24.839
<v Speaker 3>because they don't want to be seen as outsiders. They

545
00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:27.519
<v Speaker 3>want to feel like they're part of the group. That's

546
00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:29.960
<v Speaker 3>a natural sort of survival instinct that I think we have,

547
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:33.079
<v Speaker 3>which can be a good thing, but it can also

548
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:36.240
<v Speaker 3>be a bad thing because if if everyone is in

549
00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:39.319
<v Speaker 3>the majority wrong, then wanting to be in with the

550
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:42.079
<v Speaker 3>group or believe what everyone else believes, or you just

551
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:44.160
<v Speaker 3>go along to get along is not a good thing.

552
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:46.960
<v Speaker 3>It's a bad thing. So all those things are part

553
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:50.599
<v Speaker 3>of it too. And I think people tend to defer.

554
00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:53.079
<v Speaker 3>Most people defer to authorities, and so when they see

555
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:56.599
<v Speaker 3>the authority structure, whether it's the UN or the government

556
00:31:56.640 --> 00:31:59.839
<v Speaker 3>or whatever, when they see them touting and pushing thing,

557
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:02.519
<v Speaker 3>so they don't want to go against it. They don't

558
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:04.400
<v Speaker 3>want to go against the grain. It's just an easy again,

559
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:07.000
<v Speaker 3>it's a lot of its easier path that the humans choose.

560
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:09.680
<v Speaker 3>They think that they're going to get a shortcut. Humans

561
00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:12.920
<v Speaker 3>love shortcuts. I mean, I've noticed so many people now,

562
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:17.400
<v Speaker 3>for example, everyone asks chat GPT this or that, or

563
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:20.359
<v Speaker 3>GROCK this and that, and they don't read books anymore.

564
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:22.599
<v Speaker 3>They don't they think that they're getting and I mean

565
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:24.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying that they can't be helpful, which I

566
00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:27.000
<v Speaker 3>use it every now and then, but you can't replace

567
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:34.079
<v Speaker 3>reading these books with chat GPT summarizing something. It's in

568
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:37.160
<v Speaker 3>other words, it's a lot of laziness going on. So

569
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:40.240
<v Speaker 3>it's all those things. I guess all the vices contribute

570
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:42.640
<v Speaker 3>to why that's such a good point.

571
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<v Speaker 1>And I noticed in recent times when you Google something

572
00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>you get an AI summary, and so it's it's all

573
00:32:48.920 --> 00:32:54.519
<v Speaker 1>moving in that direction. We have an Internet, a mixed

574
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>reality experience already where life is being run by algorithms,

575
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:02.119
<v Speaker 1>our perceptions being run by algorithms. And this is exactly,

576
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:04.559
<v Speaker 1>by the way, what the World Economic Forum recently published

577
00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:06.359
<v Speaker 1>in a white paper where they said, oh, we need

578
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:08.359
<v Speaker 1>to create a one world government and make sure everyone's

579
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:10.759
<v Speaker 1>got their digital idea and biometrics and everything linked up

580
00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:14.519
<v Speaker 1>for the coming world order. Okay, that's only what we've

581
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:19.480
<v Speaker 1>been warning about for several years. But I think a

582
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:22.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of people see through that. And then when you know,

583
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:24.839
<v Speaker 1>they may be secular people that see through that stuff,

584
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>but they don't really understand the role of the interfaith movement.

585
00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:32.359
<v Speaker 1>So here's Pope Francis per the Atlantic and you can

586
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:35.480
<v Speaker 1>find this everywhere says he would definitely baptize aliens if

587
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:37.960
<v Speaker 1>they asked him to. And then I really want to

588
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:41.519
<v Speaker 1>show people the ten point plan of Alice Bailey, which

589
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:45.160
<v Speaker 1>you brought up. So take God and prayer out of

590
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the education system, reduce parental authority over the children, destroy

591
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:53.519
<v Speaker 1>the Judeo Christian family structure, the traditional Christian family structure.

592
00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:54.799
<v Speaker 2>If sex is.

593
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:57.599
<v Speaker 1>Free, then make abortion legal, make it easy, make divorce

594
00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>easy and legal. Free people from the concept of marriage

595
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:05.720
<v Speaker 1>for life. Make homosexuality and alternative lifestyle debase art, make

596
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:09.000
<v Speaker 1>it run mad. Use media to promote and change mindsets.

597
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Create an interfaith movement. We're already seeing that now. It's

598
00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:15.519
<v Speaker 1>such a big part of this. And get governments to

599
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:18.199
<v Speaker 1>make all these law and get the church to endorse

600
00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:18.880
<v Speaker 1>these changes.

601
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:20.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean we're pretty much at point ten.

602
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the interfaith movement has always been since the late

603
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:33.280
<v Speaker 3>eighteen nineties an establishment, elite, oligarchical promoted thing to control religion. So,

604
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:36.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, the state, going all the way back to

605
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:40.639
<v Speaker 3>the ancient world, wanted to control the church. You had

606
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:44.840
<v Speaker 3>different emperors who wanted to promote heresies like arianism and iconoclasm.

607
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:48.360
<v Speaker 3>And although the emperors didn't succeed at times, they did

608
00:34:48.360 --> 00:34:50.400
<v Speaker 3>get quite a few people on their side. They did

609
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:53.360
<v Speaker 3>get the upper hand. But eventually, you know, the church

610
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:56.239
<v Speaker 3>continues on the emperors die, the empires go away, and

611
00:34:56.280 --> 00:34:59.800
<v Speaker 3>the church continues. But that doesn't change. We're going to

612
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:02.119
<v Speaker 3>a world. It's not like, oh, that's something back then.

613
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:05.199
<v Speaker 3>The state has always tried to control the church in

614
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:07.400
<v Speaker 3>various ways. And I don't just mean the state. I

615
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:10.679
<v Speaker 3>also mean the elite families that run the state, that

616
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:13.079
<v Speaker 3>own it and own the Federal Reserve, and own all

617
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:15.719
<v Speaker 3>the corporations and so forth, and so yeah. I mean

618
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:21.599
<v Speaker 3>religion is a very powerful, potent thing in people's lives.

619
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:25.280
<v Speaker 3>It's how they gather their meaning. It influences their actions.

620
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:29.920
<v Speaker 3>It's a huge force for social action. And if you're

621
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<v Speaker 3>the state, or if you're the corporate state, if you're

622
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:34.800
<v Speaker 3>the deep state, whatever, like, obviously you want to steer

623
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:38.880
<v Speaker 3>that because that allows you to influence and nudge and

624
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:42.920
<v Speaker 3>socially engineering massive groups of people. I mentioned earlier CD Jackson,

625
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:45.320
<v Speaker 3>who was involved in the production of certain alien movies.

626
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:48.559
<v Speaker 3>He was the CIA's point man for what's called the

627
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<v Speaker 3>doctrinal Warfare program. That wasn't I mean it related to acumenism.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't directly about acumenism. That was just the CIA saying,

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<v Speaker 3>how can we marshal all of these churches in the

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<v Speaker 3>Cold War to promote out Americanism overseas and in the world.

631
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<v Speaker 3>And you might think, well, but we had to defeat

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<v Speaker 3>the Soviets, and well that's true. Like you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>you believe in the dialectors of the Cold War, you're

634
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<v Speaker 3>now basically signing the church over to Oh, I'm just

635
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<v Speaker 3>going to listen to what the CIA tells me to do. Right,

636
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<v Speaker 3>So when the CIA says now it's time for your

637
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<v Speaker 3>churches to start flying, you know, skittles, flags and doing

638
00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:27.079
<v Speaker 3>all the other stuff we say, you see the point, right,

639
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<v Speaker 3>you're already submitted to deep state controllers in the church

640
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:36.280
<v Speaker 3>and they were very effective at that. And it's the

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<v Speaker 3>same with the interfaith movement, because the interfaith movement has

642
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<v Speaker 3>always been promoted by the CIA. It's the same elite families,

643
00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:45.800
<v Speaker 3>the rock Fellers and others who really put the seed

644
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<v Speaker 3>money into the interfaith movement, the entire humanist movement by

645
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<v Speaker 3>the time of the World Council Churches, National Council Churches.

646
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<v Speaker 3>That's all fun for the Rockfellers directly. It's in their

647
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<v Speaker 3>biography right there. It's admitted bart of the Rockefeller's whole

648
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:02.920
<v Speaker 3>chapter on them creating and funding the ecumenist movement. So

649
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:06.000
<v Speaker 3>why why would they do that again? Because churches are

650
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:08.519
<v Speaker 3>what they call soft power. Soft power is a way

651
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<v Speaker 3>to express non kinetic warfare power in other countries and

652
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:16.000
<v Speaker 3>other regions across the world. Hollywood is a form of

653
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:20.880
<v Speaker 3>soft power to push American values and Hollywood values to

654
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<v Speaker 3>the rest of the world as part of social engineering.

655
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<v Speaker 3>So the point is that humanism interfaith always been wrapped

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<v Speaker 3>up in the oss and ca And if you read

657
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<v Speaker 3>the David Wimhop book, it's about a six seven hundred

658
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:34.960
<v Speaker 3>page book on that very topic where it's all admitted.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Ask you how likely you think it is that, because okay,

661
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<v Speaker 1>so I look at this as a Christian and I go,

662
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<v Speaker 1>there's no way I would fall for this stuff, because

663
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I've been warned in advance. Although maybe I'm thinking too

664
00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:53.039
<v Speaker 1>highly of myself here that I can't be fooled as well.

665
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<v Speaker 2>And hopefully you know that's.

666
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<v Speaker 1>Not the case, and we should all pray that we're

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<v Speaker 1>not deceived.

668
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<v Speaker 3>But just listen to what I say. Won't before.

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<v Speaker 2>But I look at that and I go, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>way that people will buy this.

671
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:10.719
<v Speaker 1>But they will, and many will and so I want

672
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<v Speaker 1>to ask you how likely you think it is that

673
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<v Speaker 1>they would go in the path of an alien deception,

674
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<v Speaker 1>maybe pre or even post war.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that they study and see where public opinion

676
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<v Speaker 3>is on these things. You know, the people who formulated

677
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<v Speaker 3>public opinion, people like Walter Lippmann and all the people

678
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<v Speaker 3>from Tavsak Institute. They were studying public opinion and polling

679
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:40.760
<v Speaker 3>as a way to socially engineer and steer the masses

680
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:44.760
<v Speaker 3>back in the nineteen twenties because they realized that, well,

681
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<v Speaker 3>I just we just put out fake polls. Because people

682
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:49.320
<v Speaker 3>want to be part of the group, they'll go along

683
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:51.519
<v Speaker 3>with whatever the majority says in the poll. That's how

684
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:53.639
<v Speaker 3>kind of naive people were back at that time, in

685
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:56.800
<v Speaker 3>the thirties, forties, fifties, and so they were putting out polls,

686
00:38:56.800 --> 00:38:59.920
<v Speaker 3>for example, saying that majority of Americans support the war,

687
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:04.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, and then people wouldn't question the war because

688
00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:06.280
<v Speaker 3>they didn't want to be outsiders. They want to be

689
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:08.199
<v Speaker 3>part of the group. So they realized very quickly that

690
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<v Speaker 3>just make up a fake poll that says the majority

691
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:13.280
<v Speaker 3>believe this, and it works. That doesn't work as much anymore.

692
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:15.559
<v Speaker 3>People don't really care about poles. You know, we've seen

693
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:19.519
<v Speaker 3>Trump era poles didn't even matter. They were all fake,

694
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:24.519
<v Speaker 3>selective and who they survey. So the reason I bring

695
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<v Speaker 3>up polling though, is because it's the same type of

696
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:31.480
<v Speaker 3>deception that we're talking about here, where where people will

697
00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:34.920
<v Speaker 3>want to be a part of the group that want

698
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:38.320
<v Speaker 3>to feel like they're not an outsider. And it's the

699
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:41.800
<v Speaker 3>same with the alien threat, because they're only going to

700
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<v Speaker 3>roll that out if they feel like enough people will

701
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:48.800
<v Speaker 3>fall for it or believe it. So I would imagine

702
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:50.840
<v Speaker 3>probably part of the r and D, the research and

703
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:55.280
<v Speaker 3>development that goes on when the drone sigh out, whatever's

704
00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:58.159
<v Speaker 3>going on with this, it's probably also being studied to

705
00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:02.119
<v Speaker 3>see how many people talk about and think that it's aliens, right,

706
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:07.199
<v Speaker 3>And I would guess this is just my opinion and

707
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:11.079
<v Speaker 3>my guessing here that if the percentage of people that

708
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<v Speaker 3>talk about believing aliens that they can graph from the Internet,

709
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:17.000
<v Speaker 3>from AI or whatever, if that reaches a certain point,

710
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:19.599
<v Speaker 3>then maybe then they would roll it out. I think

711
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:21.519
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of people that are still skeptical. You know,

712
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:23.360
<v Speaker 3>it's last year when they were doing all these UFO

713
00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:26.079
<v Speaker 3>hearings and stuff, like people didn't even care. It's kind

714
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<v Speaker 3>of like blip on the radar.

715
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:30.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's different when you start to see weird

716
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:32.119
<v Speaker 1>stuff in the sky, right yeah.

717
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:34.320
<v Speaker 3>Maybe yeah, yeah, like maybe they roll out weirder and

718
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:38.639
<v Speaker 3>weirder blue beam type stuff, people will be more susceptible

719
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<v Speaker 3>to believing it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you you mentioned something really crucial there, which is

721
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<v Speaker 1>and this is where my concern comes in with AI

722
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:49.559
<v Speaker 1>and algorithms and things, because okay, polling doesn't work anymore,

723
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:52.760
<v Speaker 1>fake narratives through the fake media don't work anymore. But

724
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:56.679
<v Speaker 1>what does work is algorithms. And when you have, for example,

725
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<v Speaker 1>what your screen is giving me the thumbs down?

726
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:03.280
<v Speaker 2>Did you see that bubble pop up? You didn't see it? Yeah,

727
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:10.119
<v Speaker 2>we're not, We're not. It's quite all right, So.

728
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<v Speaker 3>I didn't do that. Who's who's thumbing me down? I

729
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:15.400
<v Speaker 3>don't know down.

730
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<v Speaker 1>Yes, But anyway, so what they have now in their

731
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<v Speaker 1>tool chest is AI. And you mentioned, you know, sort

732
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<v Speaker 1>of scraping of the internet, AI dissecting through the public

733
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<v Speaker 1>response at faster speeds than a pole ever could, and

734
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:34.000
<v Speaker 1>algorithms to boost certain things that they want in the

735
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<v Speaker 1>public domain. You know, you'll see a particular story and

736
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<v Speaker 1>it's not it doesn't seem to be of that much importance,

737
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<v Speaker 1>but that's all you see, Why do the algorithms but

738
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<v Speaker 1>boost that specific thing. It's like the propaganda machine of

739
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:49.320
<v Speaker 1>the mainstream media doesn't work anymore, but it doesn't matter

740
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<v Speaker 1>because now they have algorithms.

741
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think Jack Dorsey, who I'm sure people are

742
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:57.960
<v Speaker 3>critical of, had a whole talk recently where you talked

743
00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:00.960
<v Speaker 3>about we're all ruled by our rhythms now, and so

744
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:04.719
<v Speaker 3>it's a question of what types of algorithms are being

745
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:07.599
<v Speaker 3>put out is it Are they ones that respect and

746
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:11.960
<v Speaker 3>believe in liberty and the ability to assess the information

747
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:13.960
<v Speaker 3>on your own, or are they just feeding us the

748
00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:16.079
<v Speaker 3>slop and the propaganda. Well, I'm sure it's going to

749
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:19.840
<v Speaker 3>be the slop and the propaganda. So we're probably already

750
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:24.400
<v Speaker 3>under some degree of AI control that we don't know about.

751
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:27.280
<v Speaker 3>In other words, probably what they're rolling out in the

752
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.639
<v Speaker 3>public versions of the latest chat GPT these are probably

753
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:34.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, older things. I remember a news story from

754
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:39.320
<v Speaker 3>about twenty fourteen where they were saying back then that

755
00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:43.760
<v Speaker 3>AI was capable of doing basically what chad gip does,

756
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:47.840
<v Speaker 3>what chat GPT does now. So if you know that

757
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:51.079
<v Speaker 3>was ten years ago. It's probably a lot more advanced

758
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:55.920
<v Speaker 3>in terms of the secret corporate versions of it, whatever

759
00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:58.800
<v Speaker 3>those are, so we might actually already be under some

760
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:04.480
<v Speaker 3>kind of large scale AI Internet control. I watched the

761
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:07.320
<v Speaker 3>video the other night about I don't believe that dead

762
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.079
<v Speaker 3>Internet theory is totally true. It's a little over the top,

763
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:13.679
<v Speaker 3>but that's a theory that the Internet theory. This is

764
00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:15.880
<v Speaker 3>the idea that the Internet as we used to know

765
00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:20.159
<v Speaker 3>of it, like from you know, beginning until around twenty fourteen,

766
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:23.880
<v Speaker 3>fifteen sixteen, that that internet's pretty much gone, and that

767
00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:28.000
<v Speaker 3>perhaps they were they are intentionally destroying the existing Internet.

768
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:29.360
<v Speaker 3>It's a theory. I don't know if it's true, but

769
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<v Speaker 3>the idea is that they're flooding it with AI and bots,

770
00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:35.039
<v Speaker 3>and the reason for that is that the more they

771
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:39.400
<v Speaker 3>do that, the less useful, the less relevant it becomes,

772
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:43.119
<v Speaker 3>and then they can roll out the new Internet, right

773
00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:46.119
<v Speaker 3>which fixes all these problems where you don't have to

774
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:49.800
<v Speaker 3>have bots everywhere, but you've got to sign on with

775
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:52.199
<v Speaker 3>an Internet ID and you have to be tracked and traced.

776
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:55.880
<v Speaker 3>So that's an interesting theory that they might be trying

777
00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:58.639
<v Speaker 3>to kind of do away with or blow up the

778
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:00.960
<v Speaker 3>existing Internet to bring the new one, which is all

779
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:05.800
<v Speaker 3>a centralized tract and controlled and will will require an ID.

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<v Speaker 3>That's very plausible. I don't know if that's the case,

781
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:11.400
<v Speaker 3>but I did see a video where someone was going

782
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<v Speaker 3>through the capabilities of bots now too, basically not just

783
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<v Speaker 3>flood you know everybody's comments with bots and you know

784
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:23.920
<v Speaker 3>Twitter with bots, but actually that the same bots that

785
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:27.639
<v Speaker 3>are flooding that are fake bots flooding comments. They're all

786
00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:31.800
<v Speaker 3>they actually make like entire websites like like right away

787
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:34.280
<v Speaker 3>to give the appearance that it's a real, you know,

788
00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:36.559
<v Speaker 3>person and they really want to run a website. It's

789
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:39.599
<v Speaker 3>all just a I bots. So it's getting really sophisticated.

790
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<v Speaker 3>But it's like, I don't know what purpose it would

791
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<v Speaker 3>served other than to just kind of destroy the Internet.

792
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:52.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, and probably to to advance the narrative of we

793
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<v Speaker 1>need to combat miss in disinformation. You know, AIL all

794
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<v Speaker 1>unreliable unless.

795
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<v Speaker 2>We yeah, well, I mean the E he's a perfect

796
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:01.760
<v Speaker 2>example of this. We've got to.

797
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:04.679
<v Speaker 1>Regulate AI because of deep fakes, because of this, that

798
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:06.239
<v Speaker 1>the other, but we.

799
00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Still retain control of the AI.

800
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<v Speaker 1>And that's very much what they published in their book

801
00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:13.519
<v Speaker 1>remaking the world towards an age of global enlightenment. The

802
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:17.440
<v Speaker 1>UN's AI World Society that describes this mixed reality.

803
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<v Speaker 2>Which the WF is saying, yeah, we've got to do

804
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:19.400
<v Speaker 2>this now.

805
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<v Speaker 1>I think that there's already a version of this now, Jay,

806
00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:27.719
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people are living online. They're already

807
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<v Speaker 1>living in the metaverse, which is actually the AI World Society,

808
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:35.639
<v Speaker 1>but you know they're calling it the metaverse. There's already

809
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:38.079
<v Speaker 1>a version of this now, and so I think you're

810
00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:41.199
<v Speaker 1>right in that there may already be a huge element

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<v Speaker 1>of algorithmic control in people's lives, in people's minds, in

812
00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:47.840
<v Speaker 1>their belief systems. And that's really my concern for whatever

813
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<v Speaker 1>comes next. It doesn't matter what comes next, how much

814
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:54.239
<v Speaker 1>of how much are people actually going to be able

815
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<v Speaker 1>to discern.

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00:45:56.840 --> 00:45:59.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm not too black, cold or negative. I think there's

817
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:01.840
<v Speaker 3>a lot of paus it is on the scene. A

818
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:05.400
<v Speaker 3>lot of good things are happening, you know that. I

819
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:09.239
<v Speaker 3>think they tried rolling out hotels and different characters and

820
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:11.400
<v Speaker 3>they kind of hint they hinted at like a new

821
00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:14.559
<v Speaker 3>scam deemic, and that it just didn't People don't seem

822
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:18.119
<v Speaker 3>to be interested in going down that Road like nobody.

823
00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:23.199
<v Speaker 3>Everybody just ignored it. Nobody cares about another so called scandemic,

824
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<v Speaker 3>So I don't I don't know. We were talking about

825
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:27.559
<v Speaker 3>this the other day, my wife and I. I don't

826
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<v Speaker 3>know what thing they're going to pull that will work.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean maybe if they, you know, pull some giant

828
00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:36.079
<v Speaker 3>false flag that would work. But I mean people are

829
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:39.079
<v Speaker 3>kind of just not believing anything. Nobody cared about all

830
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:40.920
<v Speaker 3>the alien stuff last year that they were, and they

831
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:45.719
<v Speaker 3>were pushing that hard with hearings and Congress and reverse

832
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<v Speaker 3>engineer technology. I'm just just I've never seen anything that

833
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:55.920
<v Speaker 3>heavily pushed that really didn't excite anyone. Yeah, now everybody's

834
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<v Speaker 3>interested in the drones, but it seems like the dominant

835
00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:00.920
<v Speaker 3>narrative is still that it's drone, so it's not really

836
00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:04.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I see people talking about aliens. I just

837
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:06.960
<v Speaker 3>don't know what they're going to be able to pull

838
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:09.760
<v Speaker 3>that would actually work where people aren't going to just

839
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:11.199
<v Speaker 3>immediately see through it.

840
00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's such a good point.

841
00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:16.239
<v Speaker 1>And the interest in the drones is more about who's

842
00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:19.280
<v Speaker 1>doing it and why not always being invaded. So it's

843
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:22.360
<v Speaker 1>people are at this level where they're just distrusting every

844
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:24.800
<v Speaker 1>official narrative that comes out, which is which is a

845
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:25.880
<v Speaker 1>very very good sign.

846
00:47:26.679 --> 00:47:27.960
<v Speaker 2>I there was a.

847
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Very important thing that I wanted to read to everyone,

848
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:35.920
<v Speaker 1>which was a warning from Saint Gabriel that said, during

849
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:39.719
<v Speaker 1>the times of Antichrist, the strongest temptation will be anticipation

850
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:44.559
<v Speaker 1>of salvation from the cosmos from humanoids extraterrestrials that.

851
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:46.119
<v Speaker 2>Are actually the demons.

852
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:49.159
<v Speaker 1>One should rarely look up at the sky, as the

853
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:53.400
<v Speaker 1>signs might be deceptive, and thus one may be ruined.

854
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:56.559
<v Speaker 1>The very very strong words there, one may be ruined

855
00:47:57.000 --> 00:47:59.800
<v Speaker 1>by these deceptive signs. And so I think that what

856
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:01.880
<v Speaker 1>people are going to buy it or not Jay, they

857
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:06.000
<v Speaker 1>will run with things like this, you know, in cycles

858
00:48:06.199 --> 00:48:08.199
<v Speaker 1>or in a big event, whatever the case may be,

859
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:12.800
<v Speaker 1>they'll still try it because as they try these minisiops,

860
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:15.480
<v Speaker 1>then they get more and more sophisticated to figure out

861
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:17.480
<v Speaker 1>what level do we need to go to for people

862
00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:21.880
<v Speaker 1>to believe us. And I have a few people I've

863
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:24.239
<v Speaker 1>seen comments in some of my comments that are like,

864
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:27.280
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, but there are ancient civilizations and what about

865
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:30.079
<v Speaker 1>some people talk about, you know, what about mentions of

866
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:32.760
<v Speaker 1>things that are like UFOs in the Bible. How do

867
00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:35.280
<v Speaker 1>we reconcile that with the belief that this is all

868
00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:36.360
<v Speaker 1>just amnic activity.

869
00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:37.599
<v Speaker 2>Can you spend a bit of time on that.

870
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think in the Bible the references like in

871
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:48.599
<v Speaker 3>Ezekiel are not two aliens. They're specifically a rank of

872
00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:52.800
<v Speaker 3>the angelic hierarchy known as cherubs. So Ezekiel is seeing

873
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:58.239
<v Speaker 3>a series of visions of angelic beings and he sees

874
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:01.480
<v Speaker 3>one like the Son of Man that chariot. So that's

875
00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:08.000
<v Speaker 3>that's Jesus, as identified in Revelations one and two, commenting

876
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:11.519
<v Speaker 3>on Ezekiel one through ten. So there's nothing in Ezekiel

877
00:49:11.519 --> 00:49:14.039
<v Speaker 3>one through ten or Revelation one that in any way

878
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:19.159
<v Speaker 3>suggests extra biological entities, crafts, whatever. And a big part

879
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:22.599
<v Speaker 3>of the whole alien mythos is the idea that, oh, well,

880
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:25.679
<v Speaker 3>because the universe you see is four point five billion

881
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:30.159
<v Speaker 3>years old, there has to have been all the opportunity

882
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:32.559
<v Speaker 3>for life to have evolved on all the other infinite

883
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:35.920
<v Speaker 3>worlds out there. Well, that just assumes, you know, Big

884
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:38.559
<v Speaker 3>Bang narrative and all that, which I don't believe makes

885
00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:42.679
<v Speaker 3>any sense philosophically. So it's all based on these assumptions

886
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:46.480
<v Speaker 3>that are unproven in terms of the age of the

887
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:50.719
<v Speaker 3>universe to where people get to the possibility of there

888
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:54.000
<v Speaker 3>being alien life on other planets. It's also I think

889
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:57.360
<v Speaker 3>in the talmud by the way that there's one hundred

890
00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:00.280
<v Speaker 3>or eighteen thousand worlds out there or something like that. So,

891
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:03.039
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we just don't even know that that's the case.

892
00:50:03.079 --> 00:50:05.880
<v Speaker 3>It's all kind of based on ancient even ancient Hindu

893
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:09.519
<v Speaker 3>theology posits the infinite worlds of the gods and all

894
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:11.760
<v Speaker 3>this kind of stuff. So it's all really bound up

895
00:50:11.800 --> 00:50:13.639
<v Speaker 3>with the We get.

896
00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:16.320
<v Speaker 1>That in Marvel too, right, Marvel Is it Marvel that

897
00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking of with the multi universe and things like that.

898
00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:23.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, multiverse plays into this because Marvel pushes that, I think,

899
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:28.159
<v Speaker 3>to give to people who don't believe in religion or God.

900
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:30.960
<v Speaker 3>It's like a new kind of magic metaphysics to where

901
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:34.920
<v Speaker 3>anything can happen because we live in a multiverse and

902
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:39.320
<v Speaker 3>you can pull, you know, powers from other dimensions. I mean,

903
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:44.920
<v Speaker 3>the literal Marvel nonsense that you see was being sighted

904
00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:46.880
<v Speaker 3>the other day when they were talking about the chip

905
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:50.280
<v Speaker 3>that Google's supposedly developed Willow, they were saying that they

906
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:53.639
<v Speaker 3>were saying that it proves the multiverse because this chip

907
00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:56.760
<v Speaker 3>can pull from other dimensions. I mean, it's it's just

908
00:50:56.880 --> 00:51:00.119
<v Speaker 3>that's just sci fi. Like people will literally believe I

909
00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:04.639
<v Speaker 3>Fi stuff if it's a science entity that claims that

910
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:07.280
<v Speaker 3>that's what was going on. I don't believe any of that.

911
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:09.639
<v Speaker 3>I just think that that and there's a long history

912
00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:13.239
<v Speaker 3>of science being involved in fraud and making up stuff too. Anyway,

913
00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:17.199
<v Speaker 3>I forgot where we were going with this, but or

914
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:18.719
<v Speaker 3>what your question was. I'm in rambling.

915
00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:24.000
<v Speaker 2>It's quite all right, my I think I was talking.

916
00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:28.239
<v Speaker 1>About I quoted that one should rarely look up at

917
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:30.519
<v Speaker 1>the skies. The signs might be deceptive, and thus one

918
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:34.280
<v Speaker 1>may be ruined. And how some people still think that

919
00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:38.079
<v Speaker 1>this is you know, there is more like they quote

920
00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Bible references and they quote ancient civilizations and I don't

921
00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:49.679
<v Speaker 1>know Tataria, and you know, they blump it all up

922
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:52.800
<v Speaker 1>into one basket and there, like, yeah, there's there's something

923
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:56.360
<v Speaker 1>they're not telling us. Although you know, there we do

924
00:51:56.480 --> 00:52:00.199
<v Speaker 1>have the Nephelim referenced in the Bible, but that's it's

925
00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:01.320
<v Speaker 1>not what this is.

926
00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:01.960
<v Speaker 2>This is different.

927
00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:03.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I mean I don't see how Nephelin have

928
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:08.280
<v Speaker 3>anything to do with aliens. I mean there's actually an

929
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:11.119
<v Speaker 3>evangelical guy that wrote a good book many many years ago.

930
00:52:11.119 --> 00:52:12.559
<v Speaker 3>I think I still have it up there on my shelf.

931
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:16.800
<v Speaker 3>It's called Alien Deception, and he kind of went into

932
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:20.119
<v Speaker 3>the whole history of you know, the alien stuff, and

933
00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:22.119
<v Speaker 3>I think some of his lectures are on YouTube. Those

934
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:23.920
<v Speaker 3>are pretty good if people are looking for like a

935
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:28.199
<v Speaker 3>biblical breakdown. Obviously, father so from Rose's book, you know,

936
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:31.559
<v Speaker 3>orthodotically Religion in the Future as a classic, and trying

937
00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:34.880
<v Speaker 3>to think of the different critiques of this idea from

938
00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:37.920
<v Speaker 3>a biblical perspective that I've looked at over the years,

939
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:39.559
<v Speaker 3>I just think it doesn't make any and there's not

940
00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:42.559
<v Speaker 3>really anything in divine revelation at all. It talks about

941
00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:47.880
<v Speaker 3>extra biological entities. It's bound up with the evolutionary mythos

942
00:52:47.960 --> 00:52:50.360
<v Speaker 3>and four point five billion years to give the other

943
00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:55.159
<v Speaker 3>planets enough time to produce life magically or accidentally. It's

944
00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:58.719
<v Speaker 3>just kind of absurd. And when you look at this

945
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:00.880
<v Speaker 3>is I always tell people I can't find anybody, by

946
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:02.480
<v Speaker 3>the way, whoever debate me on this. I do a

947
00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:04.719
<v Speaker 3>lot of debates, as you know. One of the big

948
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:06.920
<v Speaker 3>alien proponents the other day was calling me out after

949
00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:10.760
<v Speaker 3>my Alex Jones show, and I said, hey, let's do

950
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:13.719
<v Speaker 3>a debate, because I've never heard anybody who believes in

951
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:16.440
<v Speaker 3>aliens actually give me a good argument or proof or

952
00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:20.760
<v Speaker 3>evidence of an alien. There's a blurry video. Okay, well,

953
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:22.400
<v Speaker 3>how does this blurry video tell me that it's an

954
00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:26.559
<v Speaker 3>extra biological entity? Maybe it's maybe it's an interdimensional spiritual

955
00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:29.800
<v Speaker 3>being from Earth, you know what I mean. And there's

956
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:33.760
<v Speaker 3>never any alien bodies. It's like, this is X files

957
00:53:33.840 --> 00:53:36.800
<v Speaker 3>level stuff they were showing on X files in the nineties,

958
00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:39.960
<v Speaker 3>like the Alien autopsy. Fox played the alien autopsy in

959
00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:42.920
<v Speaker 3>the nineteen nineties and it was obviously a joke. They

960
00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:45.280
<v Speaker 3>even said it was a joke. So it's like, where's

961
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:50.079
<v Speaker 3>the bodies, where's anything that proves extra biological entities? And

962
00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:52.280
<v Speaker 3>if it's not an ebe, then there's no basis to

963
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:56.159
<v Speaker 3>believe that we're being visited by other planets unless you

964
00:53:56.239 --> 00:54:00.320
<v Speaker 3>believe that demons are you know, fallen spiritual entity. Well,

965
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:02.559
<v Speaker 3>that's a demon, that's not an alien.

966
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Right, Father Seraphim Rose in that book that the orthodoxy

967
00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:08.280
<v Speaker 1>in the religion of the Future. And if anyone hasn't

968
00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:10.000
<v Speaker 1>seen my interview with Jay on this we did a

969
00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:13.400
<v Speaker 1>book review of that text. It's fantastic book, and I think,

970
00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:15.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a timeless, timeless book.

971
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:18.320
<v Speaker 2>I encourage everyone to buy it. It's not that expensive

972
00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:18.679
<v Speaker 2>at all.

973
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I think you can pick it up for twenty bucks

974
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:23.440
<v Speaker 1>on Amazon, or if you visit some of the Orthodox

975
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:25.920
<v Speaker 1>bookshops they have at for the same price. I'd rather

976
00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:29.840
<v Speaker 1>people support them than Amazon. But nonetheless, it's a fantastic book.

977
00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:32.480
<v Speaker 1>And Father Seraphim raises a very good point, which is

978
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:34.920
<v Speaker 1>that we can't completely discount all these people that are

979
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:38.000
<v Speaker 1>claiming they're having these alien encounters, especially sort of in

980
00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:40.960
<v Speaker 1>the eighties, like what we have to actually look at

981
00:54:41.039 --> 00:54:43.960
<v Speaker 1>what's happening with these people. Of course, the Christian view

982
00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:47.559
<v Speaker 1>is this is attributed to demonic visitations. Some of it

983
00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:49.920
<v Speaker 1>is on drugs, some of it isn't Jay and so

984
00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:53.519
<v Speaker 1>it could very well be the powers that be working

985
00:54:53.599 --> 00:54:56.599
<v Speaker 1>with demonic entities, which is the view of anyone who

986
00:54:56.679 --> 00:54:58.039
<v Speaker 1>really studies the New Old Order.

987
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:00.159
<v Speaker 2>They're working with demonic entity.

988
00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:02.800
<v Speaker 1>To receive their plan for how they're going to subjugate

989
00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:05.119
<v Speaker 1>the earth in preparation for Antichrist. That's really what this

990
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:07.639
<v Speaker 1>whole thing is. And so if you're interacting with these beings,

991
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:08.800
<v Speaker 1>that's who they are.

992
00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:16.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there was a there was a situation I remember

993
00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:19.639
<v Speaker 3>a few years back where I interviewed, Actually, you should

994
00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:22.239
<v Speaker 3>interview these guys. Do you know the Collins brothers. Are

995
00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:23.079
<v Speaker 3>you familiar with them?

996
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:23.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

997
00:55:24.679 --> 00:55:27.280
<v Speaker 3>Paul and Philip Collins wrote a really big book. It's

998
00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:29.960
<v Speaker 3>called Invoking the Beyond. I'll send you a couple of

999
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:32.559
<v Speaker 3>their interviews that I've had them on many times. I've

1000
00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:35.079
<v Speaker 3>known them for many years. They wrote a really good,

1001
00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:38.000
<v Speaker 3>really big thick book that if you're looking just for

1002
00:55:38.039 --> 00:55:40.639
<v Speaker 3>the alien section, it's about the middle three hundred pages

1003
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:43.880
<v Speaker 3>of their big thick book where they do the best

1004
00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:46.639
<v Speaker 3>coverage of the alien stuff that I've ever seen from

1005
00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:50.000
<v Speaker 3>a like a journalistic perspective. And they go into a

1006
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:52.079
<v Speaker 3>lot of the geopolitics too, and I think they would

1007
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:54.559
<v Speaker 3>admit that there's a demonic element too. They don't focus

1008
00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:57.400
<v Speaker 3>on the demonic element, but they do focus on the

1009
00:55:57.440 --> 00:56:02.000
<v Speaker 3>propaganda control system element of the whole alien mythos. And

1010
00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:04.440
<v Speaker 3>we had a really good interview on this topic, and

1011
00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:08.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, they were talking about how it's almost always

1012
00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:14.599
<v Speaker 3>been connected to associated with people who were themselves deviants, again,

1013
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:20.119
<v Speaker 3>a lot of the abductees were describing scenarios that involve

1014
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:23.800
<v Speaker 3>very bizarre sexual things, a lot of butt probing and

1015
00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:26.320
<v Speaker 3>this kind of stuff. Why has that always been at

1016
00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:29.400
<v Speaker 3>the root of the alien phenomenon. Well, this is my

1017
00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:33.679
<v Speaker 3>own speculation. I've always thought there's an interesting connection between

1018
00:56:33.920 --> 00:56:36.440
<v Speaker 3>what you read about in cases of satanic ritual abuse

1019
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:41.440
<v Speaker 3>SRA and the experiences and claims of people in the

1020
00:56:41.480 --> 00:56:46.920
<v Speaker 3>alien abduction phenomenon. They're very close to sexual abuse SRA.

1021
00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:50.119
<v Speaker 3>The Collins Brothers cover that pretty extensively in their book.

1022
00:56:51.480 --> 00:56:53.760
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know in every case obviously what's going on,

1023
00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:56.960
<v Speaker 3>but there is there are these patterns that suggest probably

1024
00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:04.880
<v Speaker 3>both human and demonic psychological operations, abuse, etc. Also, I

1025
00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:06.840
<v Speaker 3>think if you look at the history of MK ultra,

1026
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:09.960
<v Speaker 3>this is an untapped area you could look at, and

1027
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:11.599
<v Speaker 3>I think the Collins Brothers touch on this some in

1028
00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:14.199
<v Speaker 3>their book, but not many people have made a connection

1029
00:57:14.280 --> 00:57:18.519
<v Speaker 3>between the UFO abduction phenomena and MK ultra. But if

1030
00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:21.760
<v Speaker 3>you look at the possibility of dosing people with LSD,

1031
00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:25.280
<v Speaker 3>the kind of entities that people experience and see on

1032
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:29.960
<v Speaker 3>powerful who's hallucinogens, the kind of you know, bright lights

1033
00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:33.800
<v Speaker 3>out of body experiences that people have on LSD, they

1034
00:57:33.840 --> 00:57:39.079
<v Speaker 3>also match up with what happens in abduction scenarios, supposedly,

1035
00:57:39.639 --> 00:57:44.159
<v Speaker 3>So I could see a scenario where perhaps the military,

1036
00:57:44.320 --> 00:57:49.920
<v Speaker 3>perhaps the deep state, is experimenting on unwitting people. And

1037
00:57:50.159 --> 00:57:54.199
<v Speaker 3>you know, if you're some backwoods farmer and somebody doses

1038
00:57:54.280 --> 00:57:56.880
<v Speaker 3>you with LSD in the nineteen sixties, you've never heard

1039
00:57:56.880 --> 00:58:00.480
<v Speaker 3>of LSD. You don't know what it is. And LSD

1040
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:02.119
<v Speaker 3>I would know, I mean, I know what it's like

1041
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:04.559
<v Speaker 3>like you you would think you were talking to aliens

1042
00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:07.039
<v Speaker 3>and seeing heavenly visions, right, you know what I mean?

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00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:11.519
<v Speaker 3>And so I could easily see a scenario where abductees,

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00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:14.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, were given drugs and they thought that they

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00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:17.559
<v Speaker 3>were seeing entities. In fact, there was a famous case

1046
00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:19.480
<v Speaker 3>that Tristan and I covered on a livestream a few

1047
00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:23.199
<v Speaker 3>years ago. It's in the BBC. There was a professor,

1048
00:58:23.320 --> 00:58:27.719
<v Speaker 3>I think it was a professor who is literally drugging

1049
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:32.840
<v Speaker 3>people and then staging and faking alien scenarios with people,

1050
00:58:33.000 --> 00:58:34.840
<v Speaker 3>and he got caught doing this. He went it's in

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00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:36.519
<v Speaker 3>the BBC. He went to I think he went to

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00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:40.159
<v Speaker 3>prison for this, or he was recruited to the establishment

1053
00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:42.480
<v Speaker 3>to help, right. I mean, I forget exactly what happened

1054
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:44.519
<v Speaker 3>to him, but this is an example of hey, wait

1055
00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:45.920
<v Speaker 3>a minute, this is what we're talking about. This is

1056
00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:49.840
<v Speaker 3>like people are manipulating using these scenarios. They're drugging people.

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00:58:50.519 --> 00:58:52.760
<v Speaker 3>I could see that happening. And one last thing is

1058
00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:55.320
<v Speaker 3>that I don't know a whole lot about this, but

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00:58:55.960 --> 00:59:03.639
<v Speaker 3>the people who describe sleep paralysis also sound very close

1060
00:59:03.679 --> 00:59:09.119
<v Speaker 3>to situations that people describe in terms of abductions. So

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00:59:10.119 --> 00:59:11.960
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of parallels there. I mean, not everybody

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00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:14.760
<v Speaker 3>who has sleep paralysis sees a gray, but many of

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00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:18.119
<v Speaker 3>them do. And not every person who has sleep paralysis

1064
00:59:18.159 --> 00:59:22.079
<v Speaker 3>has you know, their butt probed, but there's commonalities there

1065
00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:24.159
<v Speaker 3>to where I was terrified, I couldn't move, I was

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00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:26.199
<v Speaker 3>out of body experience, and the entities came in the

1067
00:59:26.320 --> 00:59:29.639
<v Speaker 3>room and they they were examining me and you know,

1068
00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:32.159
<v Speaker 3>messing with me, and it's it's very similar. So I

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00:59:32.159 --> 00:59:36.000
<v Speaker 3>think all of these suggest like there's some sort of

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00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:40.320
<v Speaker 3>a spiritual phenomena of demonic oppression that's going on, and

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00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:44.360
<v Speaker 3>probably government operatives and agents and mad scientists who you know,

1072
00:59:44.519 --> 00:59:49.519
<v Speaker 3>get off on dosing people with LSD and studying their

1073
00:59:49.519 --> 00:59:51.880
<v Speaker 3>reactions and by the way to see I actually did

1074
00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:55.199
<v Speaker 3>that in Operation Midnight Climax, where they worked with the

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00:59:55.840 --> 01:00:01.639
<v Speaker 3>organized crime structure to dose unwitting John visiting prostitutes, and

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01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:04.480
<v Speaker 3>they do. In other words, there is precedent for the

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01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:08.119
<v Speaker 3>establishment dosing people they else do without their knowledge.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, even when we consider the sort of

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01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:19.760
<v Speaker 1>the biodigital convergence, the linking all humans.

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<v Speaker 2>To the AI hive mind, I think.

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01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Neuralink is probably a primitive version of what they're actually.

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01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Planning, if I'm honest.

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01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:32.480
<v Speaker 1>But you know, we have to also consider the possibility

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01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:35.239
<v Speaker 1>of technological influence on people. Maybe they don't need to

1086
01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:38.480
<v Speaker 1>dose you with a drug anymore, you know, they can.

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01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:41.360
<v Speaker 1>They have voice to skull, they have all sorts of

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01:00:41.400 --> 01:00:42.079
<v Speaker 1>things now.

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01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:43.920
<v Speaker 2>So even for.

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01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:49.920
<v Speaker 1>The most sort of fortified mind, there are other external

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01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:53.400
<v Speaker 1>things that could influence is in the wrong direction essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>J What do you think is the biggest, the most

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01:00:56.199 --> 01:00:59.280
<v Speaker 1>effective way for people to protect themselves against this deception.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you have to kind of have a biblically

1095
01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:10.920
<v Speaker 3>focused attitude and worldview. You have to be orthodox. I mean,

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01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:13.559
<v Speaker 3>I see a lot of people in the Protestant and

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01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:17.360
<v Speaker 3>Catholic sphere falling for all kinds of delusions. I mean,

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01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:19.679
<v Speaker 3>if you're a Catholic and you follow Francis, you're going

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01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:23.880
<v Speaker 3>to be baptizing aliens. So I wouldn't. I don't think

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01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:27.559
<v Speaker 3>there's any discernment left in those spheres. I think you've

1101
01:01:27.559 --> 01:01:30.360
<v Speaker 3>got to be Orthodox. You got to be involved in

1102
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:32.360
<v Speaker 3>the liturgy, you got to be involved in the church,

1103
01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:39.480
<v Speaker 3>you got to be in the scripture as constantly. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that not spending a lot of time on

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01:01:41.559 --> 01:01:43.920
<v Speaker 3>the internet. As I get older, like more and more,

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01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:46.960
<v Speaker 3>I come to the conclusion that the less time you're

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01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:48.679
<v Speaker 3>spending on the Internet and the more that you're spending

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01:01:48.719 --> 01:01:51.400
<v Speaker 3>the real world is better. And I say that as

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01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:55.519
<v Speaker 3>a person who works on the internet. So you know,

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01:01:55.840 --> 01:01:58.639
<v Speaker 3>you and I, I think you're around the same age

1111
01:01:58.639 --> 01:02:00.199
<v Speaker 3>with me. You're probably a little bit younger. But you

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01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:05.320
<v Speaker 3>remember the world before the internet was everywhere, and although

1113
01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:07.960
<v Speaker 3>we weren't as sophisticated, we didn't know as much of

1114
01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:10.679
<v Speaker 3>what was going on in the world. The world was

1115
01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:13.719
<v Speaker 3>a lot more healthy and normal, and people were having

1116
01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:17.920
<v Speaker 3>normal human experiences. And that's kind of going away a

1117
01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:21.599
<v Speaker 3>lot of the you know, younger gen z like all

1118
01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:24.760
<v Speaker 3>their life is on the Internet, and I think that's

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01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:26.840
<v Speaker 3>really dangerous. I don't think humans were meant to live

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01:02:26.880 --> 01:02:30.519
<v Speaker 3>that way. It's kind of like a god level technology

1121
01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:33.800
<v Speaker 3>that you could use in a wise way, or it

1122
01:02:33.840 --> 01:02:37.760
<v Speaker 3>can destroy you. So I would not spend a lot

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01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:41.840
<v Speaker 3>of time on the internet. I would start eating organic food,

1124
01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:46.440
<v Speaker 3>I would start working out, I would start you know,

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01:02:47.960 --> 01:02:49.639
<v Speaker 3>that's about it. I mean, I'm a big believer in

1126
01:02:49.679 --> 01:02:51.679
<v Speaker 3>bitcoin too. I don't believe bitcoin is the mark of

1127
01:02:51.719 --> 01:02:55.199
<v Speaker 3>the beast. So for economics, it's better than gold, even

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01:02:55.320 --> 01:02:56.960
<v Speaker 3>so you could get your.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh we'll have a fight about that, Jay, Huh, We're gonna.

1130
01:03:01.039 --> 01:03:05.599
<v Speaker 2>Have a fight about this about bitcoin, about bitcoin big

1131
01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:07.960
<v Speaker 2>better than gold. I'm kidding, of course that I'm going

1132
01:03:08.039 --> 01:03:11.679
<v Speaker 2>to fight with you. I see the parers both.

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01:03:11.760 --> 01:03:14.920
<v Speaker 3>And by the way, my joke is that here's my

1134
01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:18.480
<v Speaker 3>life hack for how you get gold. If you want

1135
01:03:18.519 --> 01:03:20.639
<v Speaker 3>all the gold you want, you just stack bitcoin for

1136
01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:22.400
<v Speaker 3>the next ten years, and then ten years you can

1137
01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:23.360
<v Speaker 3>buy all the gold you want.

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01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:24.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely see the benefit of some of the crypto,

1140
01:03:28.199 --> 01:03:30.679
<v Speaker 1>especially right now, people can make quite quite a bit

1141
01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:34.199
<v Speaker 1>of money on things like bank I mean, I.

1142
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<v Speaker 3>Mean, sorry, what was that also being debanked? I mean

1143
01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:40.000
<v Speaker 3>a lot of the people in the Canadian trucker scenario

1144
01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:42.920
<v Speaker 3>when they were debanked, they were able to survive through bitcoin.

1145
01:03:43.039 --> 01:03:47.159
<v Speaker 3>So you know, if the system moves towards d banking,

1146
01:03:48.119 --> 01:03:52.920
<v Speaker 3>you can presently live literally just on bitcoin. Jack Mollers

1147
01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:55.440
<v Speaker 3>has created the stroke app to do that. There's also

1148
01:03:55.519 --> 01:03:58.599
<v Speaker 3>a bit pay where you can basically use crypto to buy,

1149
01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:00.559
<v Speaker 3>like if you want to go to Kroger something like that,

1150
01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:04.800
<v Speaker 3>or the grocery store and you weren't able to, like

1151
01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:06.679
<v Speaker 3>for the in the foreseeable future, let's say that they

1152
01:04:06.719 --> 01:04:08.960
<v Speaker 3>turn off your credit card and you can't get a bank,

1153
01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:12.840
<v Speaker 3>and let's say they don't accept cash anymore, you can,

1154
01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:17.159
<v Speaker 3>through various apps, presently live literally just on crypto. It's

1155
01:04:17.199 --> 01:04:18.599
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a hassle because you have to

1156
01:04:18.639 --> 01:04:23.119
<v Speaker 3>buy through the app the gift cards for the grocery

1157
01:04:23.159 --> 01:04:25.800
<v Speaker 3>store or right or whatever. But you can do it,

1158
01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:28.119
<v Speaker 3>and people have already been been having to do it.

1159
01:04:28.679 --> 01:04:30.719
<v Speaker 1>Yes, there are people that have to do it already.

1160
01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:33.719
<v Speaker 1>And my my only concern is with anything digital that

1161
01:04:34.119 --> 01:04:37.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, we've already seen them trying to control you know,

1162
01:04:37.920 --> 01:04:42.119
<v Speaker 1>digital currencies and put their claws into it, and so

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01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:44.760
<v Speaker 1>I see an element of freedom in it. But I

1164
01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:47.800
<v Speaker 1>also see, oh well, e and p there goes my currency.

1165
01:04:47.880 --> 01:04:51.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, so things I think both is a good outlook.

1166
01:04:51.880 --> 01:04:54.119
<v Speaker 1>You know, use the system that you can while you

1167
01:04:54.159 --> 01:04:58.440
<v Speaker 1>can absolutely and tangible assets are never going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm all.

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01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:01.760
<v Speaker 3>On the MP point. I know you don't want to

1170
01:05:01.800 --> 01:05:03.840
<v Speaker 3>have a debate on this, but just one point on that.

1171
01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:06.159
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's do it. Roll my sleeves up.

1172
01:05:07.519 --> 01:05:11.400
<v Speaker 3>So the Bitcoin ledger is stored everywhere that there's a node,

1173
01:05:11.400 --> 01:05:13.840
<v Speaker 3>and there's ten ten thousand plus we don't even know

1174
01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:16.400
<v Speaker 3>how many there are across the world, so you would

1175
01:05:16.440 --> 01:05:19.800
<v Speaker 3>have to have a global emp to knock out everything.

1176
01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:25.119
<v Speaker 3>There's also satellites that have the Bitcoin ledger, so it's

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01:05:25.159 --> 01:05:27.840
<v Speaker 3>really not it's the most secure network.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting because even if they went down the path

1179
01:05:31.079 --> 01:05:35.760
<v Speaker 1>of cyber COVID, which is knocking down the entire world's internet, electricity, everything,

1180
01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:39.400
<v Speaker 1>the whole grid, satellites are still used by the military.

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01:05:39.800 --> 01:05:41.599
<v Speaker 1>They're not going to let the military not be able

1182
01:05:41.599 --> 01:05:43.960
<v Speaker 1>to communicate. I've always said this, The satellite never would

1183
01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:45.360
<v Speaker 1>be the last thing to be attacked.

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01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Bitcoin's attached to that.

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01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:50.280
<v Speaker 3>Then, Yeah, there are satellites that broadcast a Bitcoin ledger

1186
01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:52.840
<v Speaker 3>and network, which means that even if every node on

1187
01:05:52.920 --> 01:05:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Earth went down, conceivably it would still exist. But also,

1188
01:05:56.039 --> 01:05:58.920
<v Speaker 3>an MP is probably not going to be the entire world.

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01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:02.000
<v Speaker 3>It's going to be a re area. And even if

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01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:05.079
<v Speaker 3>the Internet goes out for some time period, Bitcoin doesn't

1191
01:06:05.119 --> 01:06:07.920
<v Speaker 3>go away. It still exists. You were just waiting for

1192
01:06:07.960 --> 01:06:09.719
<v Speaker 3>the Internet to come back. I also don't think that

1193
01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:13.639
<v Speaker 3>they've built all this infrastructure to take us back to

1194
01:06:13.679 --> 01:06:16.840
<v Speaker 3>the eighteen hundreds. I think that they want a technocratic

1195
01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:20.280
<v Speaker 3>control where they want that, so it only makes a

1196
01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:24.480
<v Speaker 3>sense of my Viewtube have elements within that system that

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01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:27.000
<v Speaker 3>are decentralized and not subject to that.

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01:06:27.719 --> 01:06:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree with you, actually, Jay, It's probably an

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01:06:30.920 --> 01:06:32.920
<v Speaker 1>area I need to learn more about. I've started to

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01:06:33.159 --> 01:06:37.119
<v Speaker 1>in recent times, particularly you know, privacy coins and things

1201
01:06:37.159 --> 01:06:39.719
<v Speaker 1>like that. People are functioning this way, and so I

1202
01:06:39.719 --> 01:06:43.159
<v Speaker 1>think it is important to have an alternative to things

1203
01:06:43.199 --> 01:06:44.480
<v Speaker 1>like cash or the fee out.

1204
01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:45.960
<v Speaker 2>System for sure. For sure.

1205
01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:50.679
<v Speaker 1>So people can learn more about everything.

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01:06:50.239 --> 01:06:51.320
<v Speaker 2>That Jay talks about.

1207
01:06:51.440 --> 01:06:56.480
<v Speaker 1>By visiting Jay'sanalysis dot com. You can see his bookstore

1208
01:06:56.519 --> 01:07:01.679
<v Speaker 1>in there as well. He has a fantastic writings and

1209
01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:06.239
<v Speaker 1>incredible content breaking down syops, whether it be Hollywood, whether

1210
01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:10.239
<v Speaker 1>it be whether it be current events. Probably one of

1211
01:07:10.280 --> 01:07:13.960
<v Speaker 1>the most best read people. I see you like a

1212
01:07:14.360 --> 01:07:18.639
<v Speaker 1>like a like one of the veterans of conspiracy in

1213
01:07:18.800 --> 01:07:19.519
<v Speaker 1>modern times.

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01:07:19.519 --> 01:07:20.920
<v Speaker 2>That's what I see you as, Jay, So.

1215
01:07:21.639 --> 01:07:24.519
<v Speaker 1>Just a wealth of knowledge, and you're also doing debates

1216
01:07:24.599 --> 01:07:27.039
<v Speaker 1>regularly on your YouTube and your ex so just tell

1217
01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:28.880
<v Speaker 1>people about that, because I think your debates are great.

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01:07:29.920 --> 01:07:32.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that just kind of happened accidentally. Back

1219
01:07:32.679 --> 01:07:35.480
<v Speaker 3>in twenty seventeen, somebody invited me to do a debate

1220
01:07:35.519 --> 01:07:40.079
<v Speaker 3>with a couple of atheists and libertarians, and that kind

1221
01:07:40.119 --> 01:07:42.719
<v Speaker 3>of snowballed into just a thing where I kind of

1222
01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:45.199
<v Speaker 3>regularly do debates. They get a lot they get a

1223
01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:48.119
<v Speaker 3>lot lot more traction than when I'm summarizing books. I

1224
01:07:48.119 --> 01:07:51.840
<v Speaker 3>would actually prefer to read and summarize books because I

1225
01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:53.880
<v Speaker 3>kind of get tired of doing I've been doing debates

1226
01:07:53.960 --> 01:07:58.159
<v Speaker 3>since college, so twenty plus years. It's okay, I don't

1227
01:07:58.199 --> 01:08:02.280
<v Speaker 3>mind it, but people really watching the debates, they always

1228
01:08:02.360 --> 01:08:04.440
<v Speaker 3>kind of end up for me being the same debates.

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01:08:05.159 --> 01:08:09.039
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, we do those regularly where we invite Muslims, Atheists,

1230
01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:15.119
<v Speaker 3>Roman Catholics, Protestants, Pagans, Gnostics, Mormons, you name it. It's

1231
01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:18.079
<v Speaker 3>a wild, wide variety in cast of characters. And so

1232
01:08:18.159 --> 01:08:20.840
<v Speaker 3>I do that pretty much every week. But we've also

1233
01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:24.119
<v Speaker 3>done formal debates with pretty, you know, big name atheists,

1234
01:08:24.159 --> 01:08:27.000
<v Speaker 3>and I've debated all the top Muslims except for one

1235
01:08:27.279 --> 01:08:27.800
<v Speaker 3>hit job.

1236
01:08:28.600 --> 01:08:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Because he won't right what he won't do it, he

1237
01:08:32.359 --> 01:08:34.279
<v Speaker 1>keeps he keeps making excuses for me.

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01:08:34.680 --> 01:08:37.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm not popular enough, which was his excuse. So I'm

1239
01:08:37.960 --> 01:08:41.199
<v Speaker 3>popular enough to respond to, but I'm not popular to debate.

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01:08:41.239 --> 01:08:43.119
<v Speaker 3>And by the way, he's debated people with much smaller

1241
01:08:43.159 --> 01:08:46.800
<v Speaker 3>audiences than me. So yeah, so we do that. That's fun.

1242
01:08:47.359 --> 01:08:50.479
<v Speaker 3>In my book wise, though, I just remember, like there's

1243
01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:53.960
<v Speaker 3>like probably sixty seventy pages of this one that deals

1244
01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:57.439
<v Speaker 3>with aliens. So I've been this came out in twenty sixteen.

1245
01:08:57.840 --> 01:08:59.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm writing the third book, by the way, that's circularly

1246
01:08:59.880 --> 01:09:01.640
<v Speaker 3>with three right now. I've got three hundred pages of

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01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:04.199
<v Speaker 3>that one. Done nothing about aliens in that one because

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<v Speaker 3>in esetera, Hollywood one and two both of them actually

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<v Speaker 3>cover aliens pretty extensively. So I'm kind of done writing

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<v Speaker 3>about the alien topic, but you can get the first

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<v Speaker 3>two books that kind of it talks a lot about

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<v Speaker 3>what you and I talked about today. I'd go with

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<v Speaker 3>Deep into HG. Wells The History of Mythos so the

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<v Speaker 3>alien nonsense and cover it through the lens of movies amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>You can also follow Jay at j Underscore d DO

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<v Speaker 1>seven on X and that's where he does I think

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<v Speaker 1>you do, and you invite people from your X space

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<v Speaker 1>onto the YouTube debate. But visual is always better, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can watch that on YouTube. Thank you so much today,

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<v Speaker 1>Really really appreciate your time today. And ultimately, people just

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<v Speaker 1>can protect themselves from deception by being close to God.

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<v Speaker 1>And really, you and I both believe the only way

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<v Speaker 1>to truly do that is to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be within the original and true cho the Orthodox Church.

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<v Speaker 1>So and by the way, I'm just just side notes.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been reading so many prophecies of the saints relating

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<v Speaker 1>to the times, relating to all of this stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>we've spoken about today, and it is the most accurate

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<v Speaker 1>that I've found in the Orthodox Church compared to anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>else that I've seen. It seems to be quite sheltered

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<v Speaker 1>from a lot of this deception. So it's got to

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<v Speaker 1>say something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think Orthodox Saints and Orthodox people who you

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<v Speaker 3>know are faithful, you'll have discernment. You're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>fall for the stuff that's out there. And the other

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<v Speaker 3>groups you know, don't dislike them on a personal level.

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<v Speaker 3>But I really don't think that Calvolcs and Protestants have discernment.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that they've lost that and they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>fall for or you're much more susceptible to falling for,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, whatever deceptions are coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have to agree with you, Jay Daya, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much, and I'm sure we'll speak again soon. Sure,

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