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Speaker 2: Jay Daya, thank you so much for joining us today.
We appreciate you being here.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Maria. I'm glad to be back with you.
Speaker 1: It's been a hot minute since we've done a broadcast,
and we've covered so many interesting things like the project
Blue Beam Delusion. We've spoken about some writings of Father
Seraphim Rose in the past, and the deception of the
end times. And now it seems that the UFO alien
deception is rearing its ugly head like we've never seen before,
you know, specifically sparked on by these drones. So I
am very very keen to hear from you about the
history of this and why they're moving in this direction.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they seem to roll this out every few months
when it's useful. I'm not sure exactly what the motives
are behind the present situation, because there could be many
things going on. They might be setting up a false
flag situation where the drones are blamed on some other
country and we're being invaded. I think they tested that
with Iran at the beginning, or they might flip it
over into oh, you know, supporters of Trump conservatives are
going to engage in some kind of false flag event.
It also could be a situation where they are ultimately
just trying to reinvigorate the alien deception narrative, And it
is something that we've talked about a lot, because this
is a long term narrative and myth that they've been
pushing and creating by design, according to some of their
own white papers, like the nineteen sixties nineteen sixty Brooking
Institute paper, which says that the discovery of alien life
would upend all of the Western Biblical tradition because it
would undermine the incarnation, and then they could really steer
us into a new religion with some kind of so
called alien life announcement. So all those things are on
the table, all those things are relevant. Exactly what they're
up to, I don't know, but everybody always jumps on aliens,
which I think is just so ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm actually I was very grateful that Alen Musk
called this out and he posted this meme. Everyone please
stop creating fake narratives for ball government Iran. The Iranian mothership.
I mean, it's really interesting people are seeing through all
of this. But what I am concerned about, Jay, is
that you know a lot of people in our.
Speaker 2: Audience as well.
Speaker 1: They'll say to me, oh, but you know alien the
evidence for aliens or whatever the case may be, And
my biblical worldview is that this is demonic activity. And
so you mentioned something recently on an Info Wars broadcast
that I thought was fantastic, which was the Mirage Men,
And I'd love for you to talk people through how
people were actually sioped into being proponents of the UFO conspiracy.
Speaker 3: Only mothership I care about its p Funk's mothership. Do
you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2: I don't, but I always.
Speaker 3: The most the most famous Funk in the world. Their
theme is a mothership. Yeah. So I think the history
of this is really what tells the story. When we
go back to H. G. Wells, we go back to
people who were the premier propagandists of their of their time.
He was a war propaganda a fabian socialist, high level freemason,
and he's one of the key figures in crafting the
entire alien narrative. He wrote War the Worlds or the
Worlds is probably the biggest alien sci fi story of
all time, been remade many, many times, most recently by Spielberg.
So I think, you know, this is a long term
myth that they've had the Western power structure that they've
been pushing on purpose. You know, when we come up
to the nineteen four I'll talk about Mirageman in a second,
but I think you have to lay the groundwork with
the long history deception in this domain and how flimsy
all the so called alien proofs are and the claims
around it. They're just laughable. You know. You have the
Roswell event with this military guy holding up a piece
of tinfoil and saying that it was an alien ship
that crashed.
Speaker 2: Like a pullar.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like a polar You have the story of
the first abductees, Georgia Damski history is mimicked from a
fam a science fiction novel at that time about being
taken up and seeing large breasted Venusian women on a ship.
It's all obviously absurd. And the weird part though, is
that you have people at the CIA actually defending the
head of the CIA al and dullest defendant and threatened
to lot to take the court threaten lawsuits against anyone
who would challenge Georgia Damski. So why would they be
covering up and pushing something so ridiculous as this. The
first alien cult people were also early abductees Betty and
Barney Hill. They're immediately involved in weird occultic alien ritual groups.
I mean, it's just it's just all really bizarre. There's
no there's only substantial to ever suggest that there's extraterrestrial
life or extra bio, extra threscial biological life EDES or whatever.
I agree with you that, yeah, there's a lot of craft,
there's a lot of unexplained things that could be chalked
up to angelic phenomenon, demons, angels, whatever. But when we
look at this whole genre, if you go back to
the MJ twelve documents, you have a bunch of people
that are involved in psychological operations who if you don't
know those people, don't tell the truth. Psyops is how
to lie and trick people, and there's always a close
connection between the alien stuff and psyops. If you look
at the Aviary, which is a group of a bunch
of military contractors and former intelligence agents, one of whom
I think is Richard dody They're also involved in black ops.
They're also involved in pushing the alien narrative. And Doty
is important because he's a key figure in the documentary
that you mentioned called Miraje Men. I think everybody should
watch that documentary because it's an interview with various people
like Dodie and others who was working in Air Force counterintelligence,
and his story is about how he would pick very
people to disseminate disinformation to and he taught document is
not just about him. It also goes in a bunch
of other people too, But it's the stories of people
who are chosen to be disseminators of disinformation. Particularly they're
taken to military bases, they're given all these weird, fake
stories and they're told, all you're special. We want you
to go out and tell everybody about the secret deal
that the government's made with the Pleaateans or whatever, and
it's all just made up. They even talk about the
Hollywood people that they bring into film and craft the
stories and narratives, and I think that's another indicator that
this is all just wrapped up in deception, and why
would we believe the government on any of this stuff,
you know what I mean, Like it's the government is
now pushing the narrative that we reverse engineered crashed craft.
That's resurrecting the Roswell story. We have advanced technology from
alien beings. You know, they're pushing this. They had the
hearings in Congress last year or whatever. It's just really
absurd if you if you look into it.
Speaker 1: In every character, who was it that came out from
that jay and they said that they went to some briefing.
I can't remember the men's name, but he said Americans
should be terrified.
Speaker 3: There's a couple of figures that are pushing this. I
mean there's Auvi Loeb who says that there's motherships off
the Jewish guy, Auvy Loob, and then there's Louise Loasondo
is another one of these figures who's been to the
briefings and he's yeah, so what's funny is that the
people that you see now, the Tom DeLong from b
linkeln ighty two is pushing the alien stuff. These people interesting.
They fit the profile of exactly what Dodie talks about
in the documentary where he says, we find these narcissistic
people who think that they're chosen to deliver this message,
and we use them to spit out whatever nonsense we
feed them, and they leave it. So I think, you know,
when you talk about the Blink one eighty two guy,
he's a perfect example of that. And he just says, well,
I talked to the generals and they told me it's real.
There's real alien. It's like as if a general doesn't lie,
I mean, what are you talking about. Military people are
trained to lie. CIA is trained to lie. That's what
they do. So yeah, I mean, I'm sorry, I'm rambling,
but I just think if you anywhere you really poke
holes in this whole story, that you just end up
at CIA Black Ops. And that doesn't exclude, like you
talked about earlier, private corporations, those are always military dustrial complexes,
you know, a public private joining at the hips, so
all these things overlap. This is the military dustra complex
that we were warned about that's ruling us and running
us into the ground.
Speaker 1: Basically, Well, I want to talk about that briefly. So
this just came out that the government is I said,
the government is letting Black Rock and Co fly.
Speaker 2: Drones in Brooklyn in the midst.
Speaker 1: Of a drone crisis, although I did correct it and
say it may not necessarily be in the midst of
a drone crisis.
Speaker 2: The official story.
Speaker 1: Is that the company that's affiliated with Black Rock had
a party a little while ago and this drone was
left over, which is super convenient. But nonetheless they're saying, well,
the biggest thing that's coming out of this is that
we need to outlaw civilian owned drones or put restrictions
on that. In the meantime, you have Pallanteer at the
Army versus Navy game, you know, airing there ad about
the mothership and drones coming out and how we win
before it's even started, almost rubbing it in the faces
of Americans for goodness sake. So we're gonna we are
winning the drone war. We're winning this syop. You don't
get to own drones to counter the potential ways in
which this will be later on utilized to used against civilians.
Speaker 2: It's really twisted.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think of a couple of fiction stories recently.
Black Mirror had an episode where there were AI Autonomus
drones that were basically targeting and assassinating various people. I'm
not saying that's necessarily gonna happen, But I mean I
think that eventually, you know, if you've watched a lot
of the sci fi stuff, if you read my books,
I talked about how a lot of film, a lot
of television, a lot of novels are predicted programming, so
they're kind of preparing us for what they plan to do.
I don't think it's obviously as a sensational as what
you see in the movies, but a lot of times
the films do contain the propaganda that they want people
to accept, and so you know, you have these very
prominent examples like Black Mirror's episode where really the drones
are they've eventually become autonomous to the extent that they
run their own operations. I'm not saying that that necessarily
will happened, but I mean if AI does advance to
a degree beyond what we presently know or think, then
that might be possible that, you know, you could have
these targeted assassinations. You could have patriots, you could have conservatives,
Christians being targeted.
Speaker 1: By a true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's another I remember one of the more
recent X Files episodes, they had the idea of AI
autonomous drones targeting people as well. That was also I
think the plot of one of the Avengers movies. I'm
not a huge fan of Marvel, but yeah, I mean,
I think that they've been preparing us for the sort
of sky net world and it's not really necessarily the government.
I mean, the government plays a key role in it,
but like you're mentioning with black Rock or these other
mega corporations or shareholding entities, they're the ones that really
run things, and they, I would say, will have a
huge say so in the acceptance of AI and a
lot of corporations, and I think that, I mean, it's
just I'm not terribly afraid of AI, but I think
that when you combine it with drones, when you combine
it with sky Neet, there's a potentiality for the technocratic
control grid being rolled out that they want to create.
So I think we have to be totally opposed to
that obviously, But I mean there's a connection to between
AI and aliens. I mean, a lot of alien stories
are joined at the hip with AI. The idea that
maybe the aliens are advanced, you know, artificial intelligence from
another planet, or they're here to give us the AI
or and that that actually makes sense because I think
they want us to think that we if we submit
to the technocratic system, that we will participate in this
great evolutionary leave will become you know, transhuman deities or whatever.
So it's all connected in a massive web of deception.
But I think you're right to point to whenever it's
you know, intities like black Rock or DARP or whatever,
they're all really just joined at the hip. They work together.
It's a public private corporate. I mean, that's really what
fascism is. I mean a lot of people on Twitter
talk about fascism, but it's not really the thing that
they're calling out Antifa. That's not real fascism. What's fascism
is the actual deep state that runs us and has
a lot of this you know, advanced technicology that they
want to roll out as a tech control. That's what's
probably about. So when you say they want to ban
it for their average citizen or anybody else, that's exactly right,
because they want to have total control, as the Pentagon
said some years back, full spectrum dominance over every area
of life, which just happens to be exactly what Davos
and the World Economic Forum.
Speaker 2: Says, yeah, that's exactly right.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what came out of the joint statement
from the DHS, FBI, FAA, and DoD which basically said, oh,
there's nothing to see. First it was no, it's not happening.
Then well, yeah, it is happening. Then there's nothing to
see here. It's a combination of civilian drones and other things.
But we recognize the concern I'm quoting now among many communities.
We continue to support the state and local authorities. We
urge Congress to enact counter uas legislation when it reconvenes
that would extend and expand existing counter drone authorities to
identify and mitigate any threat that may emerge. And of
course this includes the limited use of civilian drones. And
so when you consider the future of drone warfare, and
I think this was mentioned on a Tucker Carson interview
as well, where the future battlefield is drones like this is,
and consider that they know far ahead of what we know.
We've already seen the deployment of drones targeting civilians in
the Middle East, for example. This is kind of the
future that these technocrats would have for us. You say
it may not get that bad, But what's to say
it couldn't. What's to say that you wouldn't train an
AI to say anyone that admits too much CO two
is a threat to the planet thus needs to be eliminated.
Let's send the drone after them. I mean that we're
talking about a murderous class of people here. I wanted
to get your take on something, Jay, because you met
you you recently mentioned that really at the heart of
so much of this alien deception really is the move
towards the world order. Like they've always said that this
is kind of going to be what dismantles Christianity and
all this sort of stuff. I've brought this up so
many times, but I'm going to keep doing it because
this is absolutely shocking. The un seventy five an unexpected
message from the future. So this is Vinton's surf, who
they call the Evangelist of the Internet, saying I was
mucking around with some frequencies and then this being contacted
me from the year twenty forty five and said, look,
twenty twenty is the year that we found out that
we needed to go really, really hard with climate change and.
Speaker 2: Tackle global warming.
Speaker 1: Global warming to make it to the year twenty forty five,
and that's what they say, the past twenty five years
have been critical to our survival as a society and
a species.
Speaker 2: So first of all, the UN is.
Speaker 1: Communicating with some unknown entity, demon thing that's saying you
need to enslave the planet to get us to the
year twenty forty five, and that's published on their website.
So what a psychopathic organization. But secondly, again this is
this common pattern of talking to these entities, and we
see that with so many We see that with Crowley
Bailey always communicating with some entities.
Speaker 2: Talk to us about that aspect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean early on, when the UN was me
in its sort of formative stages, you had the people
behind it were big supporters of Madame Lebatski, the first
famous theosophist. So the UN's birth really comes out of
the ideology of people like Rothschild, Rhodes Milner, and they
did promote and think that the theosophical religion of Madame
Levatski might be a potential future world religion. They've batted
around some other possibilities too, like the cult named the
Christian Science. None of those actually panned out, but what
they got was a kind of joining at the hit
when the UN is eventually created with some kind of
loose New agey sort of religion. You mentioned Bailey. Her
works are still promoted and printed by UN affiliate groups.
So this idea of channeling and talking to ascended masters,
I mean, it's been there since Bolbaski, Bailey, Anni Vassant,
all the three Witches of the early phases of the
United Nations. They've always been claiming to talk to these entities.
Whether that's true or not. I think in Bolbatski's case,
she had people from the British government investigate her and
they thought she was a fraud. So she was writing
her own letters from the ascended Masters, which just happened
to back up everything that she taught and what she
wanted to be the case. So in Bailey's case, she
wrote a ten point plan to take over the West
and Detroit Christianity. I did a podcast on that about
a year ago. So we know what the goal of
those people is, and it is to create a new
world religion. And you mentioned this more recent person here
with channeling. I didn't know about this one, but the
UN has this long I mean They basically always been
doing this. If you go back to the nineteen eighties,
they had a guy David who was their channeler, and
he was talking about the great world Teacher that was coming.
I have his book over here. He talks about the
cosmic Christ, and it's always some channeled, weird, supposed off
world entity, which like you are, I think hinting at,
kind of matches up to aliens, right, I mean the psychonauts,
all those guys too, whether it's Tim of the Tim Leary,
Terrence McKenna. When they talk about the entities that they encounter,
John z Lili too, Uh, they say that, you know
it's they're they're in another dimension and they're giving me
true they're giving me information and creativity and ideas, And
that I do think is real because I think I've
had my own experiences on LSD and I've seen what
you interact with very close to what people who do
DMT say when they talk to the clockwork elves and
the d MT entities say, you know, create a one
roll government, kill all the people, you know, de arm yourselves,
and we'll you know, will help you save the world
because there's a coming crisis. So the purpose of this
is the same with when Reagan said at the United
Nations that an off world threat from alien entities could
unite the world in a world government. And I keep
going back to science fiction and movies on purpose because
most people are getting their narrati their worldview from movies
and TV and music and so forth. So when you've
watched since you were a little kid, one hundred alien
movies and TV shows, you're already just primed with the
alien presubpositions and narrative. And so this this narrative has
been there since et I grew up in the eighties,
So you know, I'm supposed to love the aliens when
they come. Again, I don't think there's aliens, but I
think it is ultimately a demonic deception. Even people from
the establishment who are not Christians, people like doctor Jacques
Vallee have written you know, famous books about how he
even he realized that this is some kind of big deception,
and he even says it's not off world, it's something
to do with entities. Here again, the psychonauts, the things
that they channel and talk to, same thing that people
that do DMT. It's always the same message of have
a world government create a new religion, there's a crisis coming,
the planet has to be depopulated. It's always the same stuff,
and it just happens to be the very message that
the United Nations has founded on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really fascinating. And I know people that have
had these experiences with certain drugs like DMT who say
that they say that they met some goddess like figure
who gave them that type of message.
Speaker 2: It's always the same.
Speaker 1: You reference the Ronald Reagan quote, perhaps we need some
outside universal threat to make us recognize.
Speaker 2: This common bond.
Speaker 1: I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish
if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world.
Speaker 3: Have you ever watched the movie Day the Earth Stood Still?
I think so there's a remake with Keano. It's not
very good, but the original movie I don't mean, I
don't think the original one is that good. But that
was one of the earliest narrative propaganda movies about extraterrestrial
beings coming here and giving us a message to like
save the world. And if you watch the movie, the
entity that comes down from space who's the good guy
is a carpenter. So he's a kind of a christ figure,
and he warns the world about this other alien race
that's coming to destroy everybody. I think his name is
Klatu or something, and those beings when they get here,
they say, if you don't disarm yourselves, so gun control,
no nukes, and all this kind of stuff, and if
you don't create a world government run by scientists, then
you will be destroyed. So the idea of one of
the first big alien movies that was creating I think
it was twentieth Century Fox. And by the way, the
guy who was running that production company was involved in
that film, Zanuk. I think he was working with the
OSS and government intelligence. So you've got people from the
OSS CIA working on movies from the very beginning about aliens. C. D. Jackson,
who was involved in the CIA's doctrinal warfare program to
co opt the churches to be used as instruments of
the CIA in the Cold War. He was also working
and helping to craft movies for twenty sidree Fox at
this time relating to aliens. So you've got the guy
who wants to control the narratives that people in the
religious world believe in Hollywood trying to help craft alien
movie narratives which is new religion we're supposed to believe
and just think about panspermia. This is the view that
a lot of actually famous scientists, Newton and others. Watson Creek,
I think one of the two of those, believed in panspermia.
This is the idea that we were seated here by
alien life and we're kind of a genetic experiment by
some awfworld entity. They're coming back to check on us,
and they need to tend us, and they have to
breed us, and they have to depopulate us like we're
you know, deer or something like that. I mean, that
narrative is going to be. It fits into technocracy, it
fits into transhumanism. It's if it's into Darwinism, and that's
what I think will be a big deception in the
coming future.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I want to ask. So
we've already had some religious leaders, you know, adding to this.
Pope friends is famously talking about the need to potentially
baptize aliens. Just my goodness, I can never get over that.
Just the complete heresy of a statement like that, it's
just crazy. But the contribution of I just did an
interview recently JA where we spoke about. I spoke with
Alex Newman and we spoke about the UN's recent climate
conference in Azerbaijan and a lot of their inter faith
things where they're talking about, you know, even previously the
New Ten Commandments for a Better Earth and all of
this sort of stuff where all these religious leaders are
joining in and saying, Yah, let's go hard with a
humanism so that we.
Speaker 2: Can create world peace.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy, but all of this is actually
related to all of that. So I want to ask
you what is the problem with the human condition where
they look to some sort of external savior but they
won't look to the actual savior, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: What is it that draws them?
Speaker 1: Because it really does say something about the human condition
that those who believe that aliens are coming to save
us are actually still looking for a savior, right, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 3: An interesting point. Yeah. It seems like there's a natural,
innate desire that humans have for God. Obviously we're made
for God, so we're going to have that inclination. But
because we're falling, we seek to fill that with all
these other things. The reason that we look to other
things is that we want to continue the way we are.
We don't want to have to change anything. We don't
want to have to say, oh, I was wrong, I
made a mistake. This this has got to change, you know.
In the New Testament it talks about Paul says to
Timothy that in the future people will listen to false
teachers who will tell them what their itching ears want
to hear. So the message in the narrative of the
u n and the coming fake world religion and all
this kind of stuff, it's in the New Age itself.
It's always like you are God, you're your own ruler,
you're your own creator. You give everything meaning, which is
the very thing that Satan tempted Adam and Eve with.
You know, did God really say that you will be
like God? And that's why he doesn't want you to,
you know, have fun or whatever. It's the same message
as Satan in the Garden. Ironically, you would think that
we would be able to figure it out, but I
think humans humans want to you know, that they're always
going to choose the power where they think that they're
getting a shortcut, they think they're getting they're basically humans
are basically self worshippers. They worship themselves and you have
to be broken from that, you know, usually through some
kind of event or something where God humbles you and
then you repent and you realize, oh, I'm not actually God,
I'm not the son of the universe, I'm not my
own meaning maker. Meaning has to be found outside of myself.
And so that's that's where we have to come to,
I think, before we start to believe. But people like
at the un or Davos and Clouds and these people
like they are unknowingly probably maybe some of them knowingly
subservient to fallen spiritual powers, so they actually work for
the entity who is the real alien entity that fell
from heaven a long time ago. I mean, the closest
thing I think to like the alien stories, Actually, Lucifer
fell from heaven like lightning, right, that's kind of an
alien story. You could say, yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm so fast this ja because you're saying and you're right,
you know, we've got to reach this point of humility
and we don't want to change, and all of that
is true.
Speaker 2: That's the human condition.
Speaker 1: It certainly was mine at one point where I just
knew I needed to repent and didn't want to.
Speaker 2: You know, it's happened to all of us. But imagine being.
Speaker 1: A person, and this is because so many people are
captivated by the UFO stuff, right, Imagine being a person
that rejects the biblical worldview because they don't want to change,
but they're willing to accept someone telling them, yeah, we've
got to depopulate, We've got to cut off our energy
used to save the trees. That I can't I can't
really understand how you can be in such a deep
deception like that. I mean, how do people get to
that point? Is just purely propaganda. Plus the sinful condition
is that all it takes.
Speaker 3: Well also our own choices. I mean, humans are accountable.
So you know, if you've been raised from infancy and
childhood with aliens and alien movies and all the propaganda
and all the Darwinism taught in the education system, and
you know, you're just a monkey and all this, I mean, yeah,
I think we're all and humans are also kind of
pack herd creatures, and so that, you know, they want
to go along with what they think everyone else believes
because they don't want to be seen as outsiders. They
want to feel like they're part of the group. That's
a natural sort of survival instinct that I think we have,
which can be a good thing, but it can also
be a bad thing because if if everyone is in
the majority wrong, then wanting to be in with the
group or believe what everyone else believes, or you just
go along to get along is not a good thing.
It's a bad thing. So all those things are part
of it too. And I think people tend to defer.
Most people defer to authorities, and so when they see
the authority structure, whether it's the UN or the government
or whatever, when they see them touting and pushing thing,
so they don't want to go against it. They don't
want to go against the grain. It's just an easy again,
it's a lot of its easier path that the humans choose.
They think that they're going to get a shortcut. Humans
love shortcuts. I mean, I've noticed so many people now,
for example, everyone asks chat GPT this or that, or
GROCK this and that, and they don't read books anymore.
They don't they think that they're getting and I mean
I'm not saying that they can't be helpful, which I
use it every now and then, but you can't replace
reading these books with chat GPT summarizing something. It's in
other words, it's a lot of laziness going on. So
it's all those things. I guess all the vices contribute
to why that's such a good point.
Speaker 1: And I noticed in recent times when you Google something
you get an AI summary, and so it's it's all
moving in that direction. We have an Internet, a mixed
reality experience already where life is being run by algorithms,
our perceptions being run by algorithms. And this is exactly,
by the way, what the World Economic Forum recently published
in a white paper where they said, oh, we need
to create a one world government and make sure everyone's
got their digital idea and biometrics and everything linked up
for the coming world order. Okay, that's only what we've
been warning about for several years. But I think a
lot of people see through that. And then when you know,
they may be secular people that see through that stuff,
but they don't really understand the role of the interfaith movement.
So here's Pope Francis per the Atlantic and you can
find this everywhere says he would definitely baptize aliens if
they asked him to. And then I really want to
show people the ten point plan of Alice Bailey, which
you brought up. So take God and prayer out of
the education system, reduce parental authority over the children, destroy
the Judeo Christian family structure, the traditional Christian family structure.
Speaker 2: If sex is.
Speaker 1: Free, then make abortion legal, make it easy, make divorce
easy and legal. Free people from the concept of marriage
for life. Make homosexuality and alternative lifestyle debase art, make
it run mad. Use media to promote and change mindsets.
Create an interfaith movement. We're already seeing that now. It's
such a big part of this. And get governments to
make all these law and get the church to endorse
these changes.
Speaker 2: I mean we're pretty much at point ten.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the interfaith movement has always been since the late
eighteen nineties an establishment, elite, oligarchical promoted thing to control religion. So,
you know, the state, going all the way back to
the ancient world, wanted to control the church. You had
different emperors who wanted to promote heresies like arianism and iconoclasm.
And although the emperors didn't succeed at times, they did
get quite a few people on their side. They did
get the upper hand. But eventually, you know, the church
continues on the emperors die, the empires go away, and
the church continues. But that doesn't change. We're going to
a world. It's not like, oh, that's something back then.
The state has always tried to control the church in
various ways. And I don't just mean the state. I
also mean the elite families that run the state, that
own it and own the Federal Reserve, and own all
the corporations and so forth, and so yeah. I mean
religion is a very powerful, potent thing in people's lives.
It's how they gather their meaning. It influences their actions.
It's a huge force for social action. And if you're
the state, or if you're the corporate state, if you're
the deep state, whatever, like, obviously you want to steer
that because that allows you to influence and nudge and
socially engineering massive groups of people. I mentioned earlier CD Jackson,
who was involved in the production of certain alien movies.
He was the CIA's point man for what's called the
doctrinal Warfare program. That wasn't I mean it related to acumenism.
It wasn't directly about acumenism. That was just the CIA saying,
how can we marshal all of these churches in the
Cold War to promote out Americanism overseas and in the world.
And you might think, well, but we had to defeat
the Soviets, and well that's true. Like you know, if
you believe in the dialectors of the Cold War, you're
now basically signing the church over to Oh, I'm just
going to listen to what the CIA tells me to do. Right,
So when the CIA says now it's time for your
churches to start flying, you know, skittles, flags and doing
all the other stuff we say, you see the point, right,
you're already submitted to deep state controllers in the church
and they were very effective at that. And it's the
same with the interfaith movement, because the interfaith movement has
always been promoted by the CIA. It's the same elite families,
the rock Fellers and others who really put the seed
money into the interfaith movement, the entire humanist movement by
the time of the World Council Churches, National Council Churches.
That's all fun for the Rockfellers directly. It's in their
biography right there. It's admitted bart of the Rockefeller's whole
chapter on them creating and funding the ecumenist movement. So
why why would they do that again? Because churches are
what they call soft power. Soft power is a way
to express non kinetic warfare power in other countries and
other regions across the world. Hollywood is a form of
soft power to push American values and Hollywood values to
the rest of the world as part of social engineering.
So the point is that humanism interfaith always been wrapped
up in the oss and ca And if you read
the David Wimhop book, it's about a six seven hundred
page book on that very topic where it's all admitted.
Speaker 2: I want to.
Speaker 1: Ask you how likely you think it is that, because okay,
so I look at this as a Christian and I go,
there's no way I would fall for this stuff, because
I've been warned in advance. Although maybe I'm thinking too
highly of myself here that I can't be fooled as well.
Speaker 2: And hopefully you know that's.
Speaker 1: Not the case, and we should all pray that we're
not deceived.
Speaker 3: But just listen to what I say. Won't before.
Speaker 2: But I look at that and I go, there's no
way that people will buy this.
Speaker 1: But they will, and many will and so I want
to ask you how likely you think it is that
they would go in the path of an alien deception,
maybe pre or even post war.
Speaker 3: I think that they study and see where public opinion
is on these things. You know, the people who formulated
public opinion, people like Walter Lippmann and all the people
from Tavsak Institute. They were studying public opinion and polling
as a way to socially engineer and steer the masses
back in the nineteen twenties because they realized that, well,
I just we just put out fake polls. Because people
want to be part of the group, they'll go along
with whatever the majority says in the poll. That's how
kind of naive people were back at that time, in
the thirties, forties, fifties, and so they were putting out polls,
for example, saying that majority of Americans support the war,
you know, and then people wouldn't question the war because
they didn't want to be outsiders. They want to be
part of the group. So they realized very quickly that
just make up a fake poll that says the majority
believe this, and it works. That doesn't work as much anymore.
People don't really care about poles. You know, we've seen
Trump era poles didn't even matter. They were all fake,
selective and who they survey. So the reason I bring
up polling though, is because it's the same type of
deception that we're talking about here, where where people will
want to be a part of the group that want
to feel like they're not an outsider. And it's the
same with the alien threat, because they're only going to
roll that out if they feel like enough people will
fall for it or believe it. So I would imagine
probably part of the r and D, the research and
development that goes on when the drone sigh out, whatever's
going on with this, it's probably also being studied to
see how many people talk about and think that it's aliens, right,
And I would guess this is just my opinion and
my guessing here that if the percentage of people that
talk about believing aliens that they can graph from the Internet,
from AI or whatever, if that reaches a certain point,
then maybe then they would roll it out. I think
there's a lot of people that are still skeptical. You know,
it's last year when they were doing all these UFO
hearings and stuff, like people didn't even care. It's kind
of like blip on the radar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's different when you start to see weird
stuff in the sky, right yeah.
Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, yeah, like maybe they roll out weirder and
weirder blue beam type stuff, people will be more susceptible
to believing it.
Speaker 1: And you you mentioned something really crucial there, which is
and this is where my concern comes in with AI
and algorithms and things, because okay, polling doesn't work anymore,
fake narratives through the fake media don't work anymore. But
what does work is algorithms. And when you have, for example,
what your screen is giving me the thumbs down?
Speaker 2: Did you see that bubble pop up? You didn't see it? Yeah,
we're not, We're not. It's quite all right, So.
Speaker 3: I didn't do that. Who's who's thumbing me down? I
don't know down.
Speaker 1: Yes, But anyway, so what they have now in their
tool chest is AI. And you mentioned, you know, sort
of scraping of the internet, AI dissecting through the public
response at faster speeds than a pole ever could, and
algorithms to boost certain things that they want in the
public domain. You know, you'll see a particular story and
it's not it doesn't seem to be of that much importance,
but that's all you see, Why do the algorithms but
boost that specific thing. It's like the propaganda machine of
the mainstream media doesn't work anymore, but it doesn't matter
because now they have algorithms.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think Jack Dorsey, who I'm sure people are
critical of, had a whole talk recently where you talked
about we're all ruled by our rhythms now, and so
it's a question of what types of algorithms are being
put out is it Are they ones that respect and
believe in liberty and the ability to assess the information
on your own, or are they just feeding us the
slop and the propaganda. Well, I'm sure it's going to
be the slop and the propaganda. So we're probably already
under some degree of AI control that we don't know about.
In other words, probably what they're rolling out in the
public versions of the latest chat GPT these are probably
you know, older things. I remember a news story from
about twenty fourteen where they were saying back then that
AI was capable of doing basically what chad gip does,
what chat GPT does now. So if you know that
was ten years ago. It's probably a lot more advanced
in terms of the secret corporate versions of it, whatever
those are, so we might actually already be under some
kind of large scale AI Internet control. I watched the
video the other night about I don't believe that dead
Internet theory is totally true. It's a little over the top,
but that's a theory that the Internet theory. This is
the idea that the Internet as we used to know
of it, like from you know, beginning until around twenty fourteen,
fifteen sixteen, that that internet's pretty much gone, and that
perhaps they were they are intentionally destroying the existing Internet.
It's a theory. I don't know if it's true, but
the idea is that they're flooding it with AI and bots,
and the reason for that is that the more they
do that, the less useful, the less relevant it becomes,
and then they can roll out the new Internet, right
which fixes all these problems where you don't have to
have bots everywhere, but you've got to sign on with
an Internet ID and you have to be tracked and traced.
So that's an interesting theory that they might be trying
to kind of do away with or blow up the
existing Internet to bring the new one, which is all
a centralized tract and controlled and will will require an ID.
That's very plausible. I don't know if that's the case,
but I did see a video where someone was going
through the capabilities of bots now too, basically not just
flood you know everybody's comments with bots and you know
Twitter with bots, but actually that the same bots that
are flooding that are fake bots flooding comments. They're all
they actually make like entire websites like like right away
to give the appearance that it's a real, you know,
person and they really want to run a website. It's
all just a I bots. So it's getting really sophisticated.
But it's like, I don't know what purpose it would
served other than to just kind of destroy the Internet.
Speaker 1: Well, and probably to to advance the narrative of we
need to combat miss in disinformation. You know, AIL all
unreliable unless.
Speaker 2: We yeah, well, I mean the E he's a perfect
example of this. We've got to.
Speaker 1: Regulate AI because of deep fakes, because of this, that
the other, but we.
Speaker 2: Still retain control of the AI.
Speaker 1: And that's very much what they published in their book
remaking the world towards an age of global enlightenment. The
UN's AI World Society that describes this mixed reality.
Speaker 2: Which the WF is saying, yeah, we've got to do
this now.
Speaker 1: I think that there's already a version of this now, Jay,
that a lot of people are living online. They're already
living in the metaverse, which is actually the AI World Society,
but you know they're calling it the metaverse. There's already
a version of this now, and so I think you're
right in that there may already be a huge element
of algorithmic control in people's lives, in people's minds, in
their belief systems. And that's really my concern for whatever
comes next. It doesn't matter what comes next, how much
of how much are people actually going to be able
to discern.
Speaker 3: I'm not too black, cold or negative. I think there's
a lot of paus it is on the scene. A
lot of good things are happening, you know that. I
think they tried rolling out hotels and different characters and
they kind of hint they hinted at like a new
scam deemic, and that it just didn't People don't seem
to be interested in going down that Road like nobody.
Everybody just ignored it. Nobody cares about another so called scandemic,
So I don't I don't know. We were talking about
this the other day, my wife and I. I don't
know what thing they're going to pull that will work.
I mean maybe if they, you know, pull some giant
false flag that would work. But I mean people are
kind of just not believing anything. Nobody cared about all
the alien stuff last year that they were, and they
were pushing that hard with hearings and Congress and reverse
engineer technology. I'm just just I've never seen anything that
heavily pushed that really didn't excite anyone. Yeah, now everybody's
interested in the drones, but it seems like the dominant
narrative is still that it's drone, so it's not really
I mean, I see people talking about aliens. I just
don't know what they're going to be able to pull
that would actually work where people aren't going to just
immediately see through it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's such a good point.
Speaker 1: And the interest in the drones is more about who's
doing it and why not always being invaded. So it's
people are at this level where they're just distrusting every
official narrative that comes out, which is which is a
very very good sign.
Speaker 2: I there was a.
Speaker 1: Very important thing that I wanted to read to everyone,
which was a warning from Saint Gabriel that said, during
the times of Antichrist, the strongest temptation will be anticipation
of salvation from the cosmos from humanoids extraterrestrials that.
Speaker 2: Are actually the demons.
Speaker 1: One should rarely look up at the sky, as the
signs might be deceptive, and thus one may be ruined.
The very very strong words there, one may be ruined
by these deceptive signs. And so I think that what
people are going to buy it or not Jay, they
will run with things like this, you know, in cycles
or in a big event, whatever the case may be,
they'll still try it because as they try these minisiops,
then they get more and more sophisticated to figure out
what level do we need to go to for people
to believe us. And I have a few people I've
seen comments in some of my comments that are like,
but yeah, but there are ancient civilizations and what about
some people talk about, you know, what about mentions of
things that are like UFOs in the Bible. How do
we reconcile that with the belief that this is all
just amnic activity.
Speaker 2: Can you spend a bit of time on that.
Speaker 3: Well, I think in the Bible the references like in
Ezekiel are not two aliens. They're specifically a rank of
the angelic hierarchy known as cherubs. So Ezekiel is seeing
a series of visions of angelic beings and he sees
one like the Son of Man that chariot. So that's
that's Jesus, as identified in Revelations one and two, commenting
on Ezekiel one through ten. So there's nothing in Ezekiel
one through ten or Revelation one that in any way
suggests extra biological entities, crafts, whatever. And a big part
of the whole alien mythos is the idea that, oh, well,
because the universe you see is four point five billion
years old, there has to have been all the opportunity
for life to have evolved on all the other infinite
worlds out there. Well, that just assumes, you know, Big
Bang narrative and all that, which I don't believe makes
any sense philosophically. So it's all based on these assumptions
that are unproven in terms of the age of the
universe to where people get to the possibility of there
being alien life on other planets. It's also I think
in the talmud by the way that there's one hundred
or eighteen thousand worlds out there or something like that. So,
I mean, we just don't even know that that's the case.
It's all kind of based on ancient even ancient Hindu
theology posits the infinite worlds of the gods and all
this kind of stuff. So it's all really bound up
with the We get.
Speaker 1: That in Marvel too, right, Marvel Is it Marvel that
I'm thinking of with the multi universe and things like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, multiverse plays into this because Marvel pushes that, I think,
to give to people who don't believe in religion or God.
It's like a new kind of magic metaphysics to where
anything can happen because we live in a multiverse and
you can pull, you know, powers from other dimensions. I mean,
the literal Marvel nonsense that you see was being sighted
the other day when they were talking about the chip
that Google's supposedly developed Willow, they were saying that they
were saying that it proves the multiverse because this chip
can pull from other dimensions. I mean, it's it's just
that's just sci fi. Like people will literally believe I
Fi stuff if it's a science entity that claims that
that's what was going on. I don't believe any of that.
I just think that that and there's a long history
of science being involved in fraud and making up stuff too. Anyway,
I forgot where we were going with this, but or
what your question was. I'm in rambling.
Speaker 2: It's quite all right, my I think I was talking.
Speaker 1: About I quoted that one should rarely look up at
the skies. The signs might be deceptive, and thus one
may be ruined. And how some people still think that
this is you know, there is more like they quote
Bible references and they quote ancient civilizations and I don't
know Tataria, and you know, they blump it all up
into one basket and there, like, yeah, there's there's something
they're not telling us. Although you know, there we do
have the Nephelim referenced in the Bible, but that's it's
not what this is.
Speaker 2: This is different.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean I don't see how Nephelin have
anything to do with aliens. I mean there's actually an
evangelical guy that wrote a good book many many years ago.
I think I still have it up there on my shelf.
It's called Alien Deception, and he kind of went into
the whole history of you know, the alien stuff, and
I think some of his lectures are on YouTube. Those
are pretty good if people are looking for like a
biblical breakdown. Obviously, father so from Rose's book, you know,
orthodotically Religion in the Future as a classic, and trying
to think of the different critiques of this idea from
a biblical perspective that I've looked at over the years,
I just think it doesn't make any and there's not
really anything in divine revelation at all. It talks about
extra biological entities. It's bound up with the evolutionary mythos
and four point five billion years to give the other
planets enough time to produce life magically or accidentally. It's
just kind of absurd. And when you look at this
is I always tell people I can't find anybody, by
the way, whoever debate me on this. I do a
lot of debates, as you know. One of the big
alien proponents the other day was calling me out after
my Alex Jones show, and I said, hey, let's do
a debate, because I've never heard anybody who believes in
aliens actually give me a good argument or proof or
evidence of an alien. There's a blurry video. Okay, well,
how does this blurry video tell me that it's an
extra biological entity? Maybe it's maybe it's an interdimensional spiritual
being from Earth, you know what I mean. And there's
never any alien bodies. It's like, this is X files
level stuff they were showing on X files in the nineties,
like the Alien autopsy. Fox played the alien autopsy in
the nineteen nineties and it was obviously a joke. They
even said it was a joke. So it's like, where's
the bodies, where's anything that proves extra biological entities? And
if it's not an ebe, then there's no basis to
believe that we're being visited by other planets unless you
believe that demons are you know, fallen spiritual entity. Well,
that's a demon, that's not an alien.
Speaker 1: Right, Father Seraphim Rose in that book that the orthodoxy
in the religion of the Future. And if anyone hasn't
seen my interview with Jay on this we did a
book review of that text. It's fantastic book, and I think,
you know, it's a timeless, timeless book.
Speaker 2: I encourage everyone to buy it. It's not that expensive
at all.
Speaker 1: I think you can pick it up for twenty bucks
on Amazon, or if you visit some of the Orthodox
bookshops they have at for the same price. I'd rather
people support them than Amazon. But nonetheless, it's a fantastic book.
And Father Seraphim raises a very good point, which is
that we can't completely discount all these people that are
claiming they're having these alien encounters, especially sort of in
the eighties, like what we have to actually look at
what's happening with these people. Of course, the Christian view
is this is attributed to demonic visitations. Some of it
is on drugs, some of it isn't Jay and so
it could very well be the powers that be working
with demonic entities, which is the view of anyone who
really studies the New Old Order.
Speaker 2: They're working with demonic entity.
Speaker 1: To receive their plan for how they're going to subjugate
the earth in preparation for Antichrist. That's really what this
whole thing is. And so if you're interacting with these beings,
that's who they are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a there was a situation I remember
a few years back where I interviewed, Actually, you should
interview these guys. Do you know the Collins brothers. Are
you familiar with them?
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: Paul and Philip Collins wrote a really big book. It's
called Invoking the Beyond. I'll send you a couple of
their interviews that I've had them on many times. I've
known them for many years. They wrote a really good,
really big thick book that if you're looking just for
the alien section, it's about the middle three hundred pages
of their big thick book where they do the best
coverage of the alien stuff that I've ever seen from
a like a journalistic perspective. And they go into a
lot of the geopolitics too, and I think they would
admit that there's a demonic element too. They don't focus
on the demonic element, but they do focus on the
propaganda control system element of the whole alien mythos. And
we had a really good interview on this topic, and
you know, they were talking about how it's almost always
been connected to associated with people who were themselves deviants, again,
a lot of the abductees were describing scenarios that involve
very bizarre sexual things, a lot of butt probing and
this kind of stuff. Why has that always been at
the root of the alien phenomenon. Well, this is my
own speculation. I've always thought there's an interesting connection between
what you read about in cases of satanic ritual abuse
SRA and the experiences and claims of people in the
alien abduction phenomenon. They're very close to sexual abuse SRA.
The Collins Brothers cover that pretty extensively in their book.
So I don't know in every case obviously what's going on,
but there is there are these patterns that suggest probably
both human and demonic psychological operations, abuse, etc. Also, I
think if you look at the history of MK ultra,
this is an untapped area you could look at, and
I think the Collins Brothers touch on this some in
their book, but not many people have made a connection
between the UFO abduction phenomena and MK ultra. But if
you look at the possibility of dosing people with LSD,
the kind of entities that people experience and see on
powerful who's hallucinogens, the kind of you know, bright lights
out of body experiences that people have on LSD, they
also match up with what happens in abduction scenarios, supposedly,
So I could see a scenario where perhaps the military,
perhaps the deep state, is experimenting on unwitting people. And
you know, if you're some backwoods farmer and somebody doses
you with LSD in the nineteen sixties, you've never heard
of LSD. You don't know what it is. And LSD
I would know, I mean, I know what it's like
like you you would think you were talking to aliens
and seeing heavenly visions, right, you know what I mean?
And so I could easily see a scenario where abductees,
you know, were given drugs and they thought that they
were seeing entities. In fact, there was a famous case
that Tristan and I covered on a livestream a few
years ago. It's in the BBC. There was a professor,
I think it was a professor who is literally drugging
people and then staging and faking alien scenarios with people,
and he got caught doing this. He went it's in
the BBC. He went to I think he went to
prison for this, or he was recruited to the establishment
to help, right. I mean, I forget exactly what happened
to him, but this is an example of hey, wait
a minute, this is what we're talking about. This is
like people are manipulating using these scenarios. They're drugging people.
I could see that happening. And one last thing is
that I don't know a whole lot about this, but
the people who describe sleep paralysis also sound very close
to situations that people describe in terms of abductions. So
there's a lot of parallels there. I mean, not everybody
who has sleep paralysis sees a gray, but many of
them do. And not every person who has sleep paralysis
has you know, their butt probed, but there's commonalities there
to where I was terrified, I couldn't move, I was
out of body experience, and the entities came in the
room and they they were examining me and you know,
messing with me, and it's it's very similar. So I
think all of these suggest like there's some sort of
a spiritual phenomena of demonic oppression that's going on, and
probably government operatives and agents and mad scientists who you know,
get off on dosing people with LSD and studying their
reactions and by the way to see I actually did
that in Operation Midnight Climax, where they worked with the
organized crime structure to dose unwitting John visiting prostitutes, and
they do. In other words, there is precedent for the
establishment dosing people they else do without their knowledge.
Speaker 2: That's fascinating.
Speaker 1: And you know, even when we consider the sort of
the biodigital convergence, the linking all humans.
Speaker 2: To the AI hive mind, I think.
Speaker 1: Neuralink is probably a primitive version of what they're actually.
Speaker 2: Planning, if I'm honest.
Speaker 1: But you know, we have to also consider the possibility
of technological influence on people. Maybe they don't need to
dose you with a drug anymore, you know, they can.
They have voice to skull, they have all sorts of
things now.
Speaker 2: So even for.
Speaker 1: The most sort of fortified mind, there are other external
things that could influence is in the wrong direction essentially,
J What do you think is the biggest, the most
effective way for people to protect themselves against this deception.
Speaker 3: I think you have to kind of have a biblically
focused attitude and worldview. You have to be orthodox. I mean,
I see a lot of people in the Protestant and
Catholic sphere falling for all kinds of delusions. I mean,
if you're a Catholic and you follow Francis, you're going
to be baptizing aliens. So I wouldn't. I don't think
there's any discernment left in those spheres. I think you've
got to be Orthodox. You got to be involved in
the liturgy, you got to be involved in the church,
you got to be in the scripture as constantly. Also,
I think that not spending a lot of time on
the internet. As I get older, like more and more,
I come to the conclusion that the less time you're
spending on the Internet and the more that you're spending
the real world is better. And I say that as
a person who works on the internet. So you know,
you and I, I think you're around the same age
with me. You're probably a little bit younger. But you
remember the world before the internet was everywhere, and although
we weren't as sophisticated, we didn't know as much of
what was going on in the world. The world was
a lot more healthy and normal, and people were having
normal human experiences. And that's kind of going away a
lot of the you know, younger gen z like all
their life is on the Internet, and I think that's
really dangerous. I don't think humans were meant to live
that way. It's kind of like a god level technology
that you could use in a wise way, or it
can destroy you. So I would not spend a lot
of time on the internet. I would start eating organic food,
I would start working out, I would start you know,
that's about it. I mean, I'm a big believer in
bitcoin too. I don't believe bitcoin is the mark of
the beast. So for economics, it's better than gold, even
so you could get your.
Speaker 1: Oh we'll have a fight about that, Jay, Huh, We're gonna.
Speaker 2: Have a fight about this about bitcoin, about bitcoin big
better than gold. I'm kidding, of course that I'm going
to fight with you. I see the parers both.
Speaker 3: And by the way, my joke is that here's my
life hack for how you get gold. If you want
all the gold you want, you just stack bitcoin for
the next ten years, and then ten years you can
buy all the gold you want.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I definitely see the benefit of some of the crypto,
especially right now, people can make quite quite a bit
of money on things like bank I mean, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, sorry, what was that also being debanked? I mean
a lot of the people in the Canadian trucker scenario
when they were debanked, they were able to survive through bitcoin.
So you know, if the system moves towards d banking,
you can presently live literally just on bitcoin. Jack Mollers
has created the stroke app to do that. There's also
a bit pay where you can basically use crypto to buy,
like if you want to go to Kroger something like that,
or the grocery store and you weren't able to, like
for the in the foreseeable future, let's say that they
turn off your credit card and you can't get a bank,
and let's say they don't accept cash anymore, you can,
through various apps, presently live literally just on crypto. It's
a little bit of a hassle because you have to
buy through the app the gift cards for the grocery
store or right or whatever. But you can do it,
and people have already been been having to do it.
Speaker 1: Yes, there are people that have to do it already.
And my my only concern is with anything digital that
you know, we've already seen them trying to control you know,
digital currencies and put their claws into it, and so
I see an element of freedom in it. But I
also see, oh well, e and p there goes my currency.
You know, so things I think both is a good outlook.
You know, use the system that you can while you
can absolutely and tangible assets are never going anywhere.
Speaker 2: So I'm all.
Speaker 3: On the MP point. I know you don't want to
have a debate on this, but just one point on that.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do it. Roll my sleeves up.
Speaker 3: So the Bitcoin ledger is stored everywhere that there's a node,
and there's ten ten thousand plus we don't even know
how many there are across the world, so you would
have to have a global emp to knock out everything.
There's also satellites that have the Bitcoin ledger, so it's
really not it's the most secure network.
Speaker 1: That's interesting because even if they went down the path
of cyber COVID, which is knocking down the entire world's internet, electricity, everything,
the whole grid, satellites are still used by the military.
They're not going to let the military not be able
to communicate. I've always said this, The satellite never would
be the last thing to be attacked.
Speaker 2: Bitcoin's attached to that.
Speaker 3: Then, Yeah, there are satellites that broadcast a Bitcoin ledger
and network, which means that even if every node on
Earth went down, conceivably it would still exist. But also,
an MP is probably not going to be the entire world.
It's going to be a re area. And even if
the Internet goes out for some time period, Bitcoin doesn't
go away. It still exists. You were just waiting for
the Internet to come back. I also don't think that
they've built all this infrastructure to take us back to
the eighteen hundreds. I think that they want a technocratic
control where they want that, so it only makes a
sense of my Viewtube have elements within that system that
are decentralized and not subject to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you, actually, Jay, It's probably an
area I need to learn more about. I've started to
in recent times, particularly you know, privacy coins and things
like that. People are functioning this way, and so I
think it is important to have an alternative to things
like cash or the fee out.
Speaker 2: System for sure. For sure.
Speaker 1: So people can learn more about everything.
Speaker 2: That Jay talks about.
Speaker 1: By visiting Jay'sanalysis dot com. You can see his bookstore
in there as well. He has a fantastic writings and
incredible content breaking down syops, whether it be Hollywood, whether
it be whether it be current events. Probably one of
the most best read people. I see you like a
like a like one of the veterans of conspiracy in
modern times.
Speaker 2: That's what I see you as, Jay, So.
Speaker 1: Just a wealth of knowledge, and you're also doing debates
regularly on your YouTube and your ex so just tell
people about that, because I think your debates are great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that just kind of happened accidentally. Back
in twenty seventeen, somebody invited me to do a debate
with a couple of atheists and libertarians, and that kind
of snowballed into just a thing where I kind of
regularly do debates. They get a lot they get a
lot lot more traction than when I'm summarizing books. I
would actually prefer to read and summarize books because I
kind of get tired of doing I've been doing debates
since college, so twenty plus years. It's okay, I don't
mind it, but people really watching the debates, they always
kind of end up for me being the same debates.
But yeah, we do those regularly where we invite Muslims, Atheists,
Roman Catholics, Protestants, Pagans, Gnostics, Mormons, you name it. It's
a wild, wide variety in cast of characters. And so
I do that pretty much every week. But we've also
done formal debates with pretty, you know, big name atheists,
and I've debated all the top Muslims except for one
hit job.
Speaker 1: Because he won't right what he won't do it, he
keeps he keeps making excuses for me.
Speaker 3: I'm not popular enough, which was his excuse. So I'm
popular enough to respond to, but I'm not popular to debate.
And by the way, he's debated people with much smaller
audiences than me. So yeah, so we do that. That's fun.
In my book wise, though, I just remember, like there's
like probably sixty seventy pages of this one that deals
with aliens. So I've been this came out in twenty sixteen.
I'm writing the third book, by the way, that's circularly
with three right now. I've got three hundred pages of
that one. Done nothing about aliens in that one because
in esetera, Hollywood one and two both of them actually
cover aliens pretty extensively. So I'm kind of done writing
about the alien topic, but you can get the first
two books that kind of it talks a lot about
what you and I talked about today. I'd go with
Deep into HG. Wells The History of Mythos so the
alien nonsense and cover it through the lens of movies amazing.
Speaker 1: You can also follow Jay at j Underscore d DO
seven on X and that's where he does I think
you do, and you invite people from your X space
onto the YouTube debate. But visual is always better, so
you can watch that on YouTube. Thank you so much today,
Really really appreciate your time today. And ultimately, people just
can protect themselves from deception by being close to God.
And really, you and I both believe the only way
to truly do that is to.
Speaker 2: Be within the original and true cho the Orthodox Church.
Speaker 1: So and by the way, I'm just just side notes.
I've been reading so many prophecies of the saints relating
to the times, relating to all of this stuff that
we've spoken about today, and it is the most accurate
that I've found in the Orthodox Church compared to anywhere
else that I've seen. It seems to be quite sheltered
from a lot of this deception. So it's got to
say something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Orthodox Saints and Orthodox people who you
know are faithful, you'll have discernment. You're not going to
fall for the stuff that's out there. And the other
groups you know, don't dislike them on a personal level.
But I really don't think that Calvolcs and Protestants have discernment.
I think that they've lost that and they're going to
fall for or you're much more susceptible to falling for,
you know, whatever deceptions are coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to agree with you, Jay Daya, Thank
you so much, and I'm sure we'll speak again soon. Sure,
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