Speaker 1: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
Speaker 1: Ignition the Dynamite Grand Slam Preview, a prediction show.
Speaker 2: This is Kelson and this is Alex and we are
Speaker 2: going to go through our predictions for Grand Slam and
Speaker 2: see how far we get. But before we get into that,
Speaker 2: I think we wanted to touch on a few other topics.
Speaker 3: The one that.
Speaker 2: Comes to mind for me, there's a little bit of
Speaker 2: note news this week about Kevin Owens from WWE. His
Speaker 2: contract is supposed to be expiring soon, and it's reported
Speaker 2: that there's interest from Tony Kahan in giving spending some
Speaker 2: big money Kevin Owens his way. Potentially, you know, if
Speaker 2: WWE doesn't renew him, or maybe they would have to
Speaker 2: over pay. I don't know, but that is a guy
Speaker 2: that for me would be like my number one wished
Speaker 2: for a guy in in ae W He I've been
Speaker 2: a fan of Kevin Owens, like long before he was
Speaker 2: n XT Kevin Owens. I have some Ring of Honor
Speaker 2: DVDs of Kevin Owens when he was Kevin Steen Kill
Speaker 2: Steen Kill. I love Kevin Stein Now Kevin Owens I
Speaker 2: loved like when he was in Ring of Honor he
Speaker 2: was such a dirt bag piece of shit just he
Speaker 2: would spit and shoots not everywhere on.
Speaker 3: His opponents, and he kind of toned down.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh speaking of dirtbag pieces as shit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did I read somewhere to Kevin Owens's pals with the
Speaker 1: Young Bucks?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was, you know, they they had a little
Speaker 2: uh in p w G. They had their group. It
Speaker 2: was the Rushmore of professional wrestling.
Speaker 3: It was the Young.
Speaker 2: Bucks, Adam Cole and Kevin Steen, you know, and they
Speaker 2: were in Ring of Honor for years. They had many
Speaker 2: a match with El Jenerico and Kevin Stein versus Young
Speaker 2: Bucks ladder wars. Like there's a lot of history with
Speaker 2: a lot of guys in the aw locker room. Kenny
Speaker 2: Omega was part of those Ring of Honor shows, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a lot, a lot of history. And I really
Speaker 2: think Kevin Steen, I don't want to. I think he's
Speaker 2: done a lot in WWE. He's been very successful. He's
Speaker 2: main event in WrestleMania Night Ones a few years in
Speaker 2: a row. But he the Kevin Stein that was in
Speaker 2: Ring of Honor, you know, he can't do it in WWE.
Speaker 2: It's just a little bit more family friendly, and I
Speaker 2: just feel like there's part of him that's probably jealous
Speaker 2: of guys like Christian Cage and m JF and the
Speaker 2: things they get to do and say on a e W.
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh I I really, I have to be honest,
Speaker 4: I don't really know a whole lot about Kevin Ow
Speaker 4: and s Kevin Stein.
Speaker 1: So I'm interested. I mean, I know who he is
Speaker 1: and I've seen highlights, but I've not really invested time
Speaker 1: to actually watch his career. So I'm interested to see
Speaker 1: what happens with that.
Speaker 5: He's got a he's got a history with Jericho too. Yes,
Speaker 5: they were they were they were best friends for a minute,
Speaker 5: then they were against each other. So yeah, I definitely
Speaker 5: think that that would be an awesome addition.
Speaker 6: M H I think is missing a dirt bag heel.
Speaker 6: I know him, you have tried to be that, but
Speaker 6: I think could be the guy to be that.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, go ahead, Yeah, I was just gonna say yeah,
Speaker 2: because NJF. He's he's a well dressed preppy. He's a
Speaker 2: dirt bag, but just not in the same way that
Speaker 2: Kevin Dean is. He's loppy, he's like stains on his shirt,
Speaker 2: he's overweight, he's spitting and not and it's just a
Speaker 2: whole different thing that AW doesn't have another guy that
Speaker 2: can do that there. I just think it could be
Speaker 2: magic if it happened. But I'm sure Wwe is willing
Speaker 2: to pay him a lot of money to stay too.
Speaker 1: So yeah, well that does anybody else else have anything
Speaker 1: they want to bring up before we get into the
Speaker 1: side of my Grand Slam preview prediction?
Speaker 6: I me, yeah, So I want to get pops to
Speaker 6: Dustin Rhodes. I saw after his closive matches there was
Speaker 6: a video of him and him and Sammy the Bar
Speaker 6: talking backstage after they're beat down at the collision. The
Speaker 6: man deserved his flower and I love him for it.
Speaker 6: But in the video he talks about he talks like
Speaker 6: a dad, and he said how proud he is of Sammy,
Speaker 6: and that kind of touched my heart as a dad of.
Speaker 1: Three kids.
Speaker 6: That really touched my heart that he's you know, he's
Speaker 6: willing to work with Sammy, who's had some trouble his past,
Speaker 6: and as we all know from Dustin's past, he's had
Speaker 6: a lot of trouble, so he's came along the way.
Speaker 6: So's anybody who can help Sammy revitalize his his image.
Speaker 6: I think it's uh, Dustin Rose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really interesting that that whole backstage interaction between Dustin
Speaker 1: and Sammy was really well done. And I think think
Speaker 1: it's really neat the way that they are I said neat,
Speaker 1: it's really interesting, the way they are really working meeting
Speaker 1: AAW is really working to make Fammy a baby face,
Speaker 1: and I think it's working. Who else has something they
Speaker 1: want to bring up? Wolf? Didn't you say you had something? No?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll try to keep this, but go ahead.
Speaker 3: Who's talking?
Speaker 8: Who's that talking? Rollin's give me one second. I'm going
Speaker 8: to try to make this short and sweet. I know
Speaker 8: we got a jam pack show. Just kind of following
Speaker 8: up with what Alex was saying. You know, I was
Speaker 8: a fan growing up during the nineties. We had multiple promotions.
Speaker 8: The biggest exciting factor of that was just talent jumping shit.
Speaker 8: So it doesn't matter if you're a WW fan and
Speaker 8: AW fan, folks enjoy this time. This is an exciting time.
Speaker 8: You get to see, you know, possibly Kevin Owens or
Speaker 8: Kevin Stein coming into all of wrestling, and then on
Speaker 8: the flip side of that, possibly Daniel Garcia going to
Speaker 8: the WWE. These are exciting times and it's it's important
Speaker 8: for the for the industry to have this competition so
Speaker 8: that those options are available. Go ahead, Rolins, I didn't
Speaker 8: mean to cut you off, pal.
Speaker 7: No, you're fine.
Speaker 9: No, We'll get more into this in like the actual preview.
Speaker 9: And I understand why Danielson versus Nigel is going to
Speaker 9: be the main event, but if it were up to me,
Speaker 9: I would actually have John Moxley versus Darby Allen with
Speaker 9: the number one contender title on the line, I would
Speaker 9: have that as the main event for Grand Slam tomorrow night.
Speaker 7: That's just my opinion.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring up something and it's gonna be real quick.
Speaker 1: And what I'm interested to seeing is we have the BCC.
Speaker 1: I kind of think that what Wheeler you is doing
Speaker 1: is a swerve. I don't believe that he is actually disappointed.
Speaker 1: I think it's a game. But one of the things
Speaker 1: that I'm really interested to see is who the BCC
Speaker 1: feuds with, actually has a feud with. And the outlier here,
Speaker 1: the wild card here is Marina Shaffir. They need to
Speaker 1: feud with somebody that can bring a woman into their mix.
Speaker 1: I mean, you have top flight with Layla Gray. But
Speaker 1: Leila Gray is actually in New Japan right now. She's training.
Speaker 1: They're investing time in Laylah Gray, which is really good
Speaker 1: to see, and she's gonna come out of that looking
Speaker 1: a lot better. What do you guys think. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking maybe the House of Black Marina Shafir versus
Speaker 1: Julia Hart. The only thing that really doesn't make sense
Speaker 1: there is that BCC looks like they're gonna be a
Speaker 1: heel faction with Marina Shaffir, and the House of Black
Speaker 1: is a tweeter faction, as Sutton usually calls them. Uh
Speaker 1: they're not really heels, they're not really babyfaces. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna be getting women involved in faction warfare.
Speaker 1: Looks like with Marina Shaffir Julia Hart, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: some other people, other women that can get involved here.
Speaker 1: Look at Willow Knightingale with the Conglomeration. I do not
Speaker 1: want to see the BCC going against the conglomeration. By
Speaker 1: the way, I think the conglomeration needs a little bit
Speaker 1: of a break and a breather.
Speaker 5: So I think personally, personally, I think they're gonna go
Speaker 5: against everybody. I don't think it's gonna be one particular
Speaker 5: group that they're gonna go against. I think they're they're
Speaker 5: they're setting their sights on cleaning up ae w.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about major feuds here. I'm talking to I
Speaker 1: agree with what you're saying, But Marina Shaffir, if they
Speaker 1: go against everybody, Marina Shaffir is going to be on
Speaker 1: an island. You can't expect her to realistically beat up
Speaker 1: every man on because that's just gonna be stupid. That
Speaker 1: would be just week after week Marina Shaffir beating up
Speaker 1: you know, a faction full of bends. So they are
Speaker 1: going to have to put women with some factions.
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm not saying that, but I'm just saying, you know,
Speaker 5: it's gonna be more of a it's I don't think
Speaker 5: they're gonna have a particular group they want to focus on.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be I don't think it's gonna be like
Speaker 5: a long drawn out feud with somebody. Eventually. I'm kind
Speaker 5: of thinking that the the elite adding monet might be
Speaker 5: their target.
Speaker 1: M that that could be. That could be very interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like yeah, I want to chime in. I really
Speaker 2: like Colson's idea of House of blackfeuding with them because
Speaker 2: as a die hard House of Black fan, House, Yeah,
Speaker 2: House of Black fan, I really feel like, you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of times, it feels like they could have
Speaker 2: done so much more at so many times in AW
Speaker 2: and the BCC seemed to be all about people underachieving
Speaker 2: and trying to push them to greater heights. So I
Speaker 2: do like that match up a lot. If they're you know,
Speaker 2: going to them and saying, hey, you guys have so
Speaker 2: much more to offer, and you guys have been maybe
Speaker 2: phoning it in type of thing and challenging them to
Speaker 2: to step it up, I do like that.
Speaker 10: I want to weigh in on this one a little bit.
Speaker 10: I I like the idea, don't get me wrong, of
Speaker 10: Marina Shaffir running around with mocks and the potential of
Speaker 10: feuding with another group that has a woman. But to me,
Speaker 10: AW is doing everything but making women's tag team belts
Speaker 10: and giving us more women's matches, So I think the
Speaker 10: concentration should be more so on that than pairing up
Speaker 10: women with more men to wrestle. I would like to
Speaker 10: see more women's matches and women's tag team champs. So
Speaker 10: that's just my take on the whole thing anybody else.
Speaker 1: That I've been a proponent for women's tag belts for
Speaker 1: months and months and months now, and I hate to
Speaker 1: say it, but I'm kind of giving up on it
Speaker 1: because I'm sorry, but FTW over the women's tag belts
Speaker 1: that that makes little to zero sense to me.
Speaker 10: Maybe will beat up on Hook.
Speaker 1: One can always hope.
Speaker 10: We can hope.
Speaker 2: So it's funny because like all the potential women's tag
Speaker 2: teams just they break up, like Willow and stat Maria
Speaker 2: May and Tony. They don't last long together in the
Speaker 2: world of Awe.
Speaker 1: In the aw Galaxy. So now let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: move on to the Dynamite Grand Slam preview of predictions.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do the Dynamite Card first. If we have time,
Speaker 1: we'll delve into the Collision Card. Let's hear every buddy's
Speaker 1: thoughts about the matches and predictions. Alex, I'm gonna leave
Speaker 1: it to you to pick which match you want to
Speaker 1: talk about first.
Speaker 2: Sure, I'm gonna pick the the World Tag Team Championship
Speaker 2: match between will oas Play and Carl Fletcher versus the
Speaker 2: Young Bucks. You know I'm gonna say I predict the
Speaker 2: Young Bucks win here. I don't think this is going
Speaker 2: to be the end of the line for their tag
Speaker 2: team title run.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't see them putting another belt on will Ospray
Speaker 2: right away, But I am excited for this match just
Speaker 2: because I don't. I can't remember in recent memories a
Speaker 2: Young Bucks match where they were really against another equally talented,
Speaker 2: high flying, kind of capable guy like will Ospray. They've
Speaker 2: had matches against like the Acclaimed recently FDR, but I'm
Speaker 2: looking forward to kind of a more traditional Young Bucks match.
Speaker 2: I think it'll be a great match. It could be
Speaker 2: the match of the night just wrestling wise. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: as well, I'm excited for this one.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I think we got Wolf first up.
Speaker 1: Wolf had to step away for a second, So go
Speaker 1: to the Ducks.
Speaker 3: Person, Okay, Net it is your turn.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 10: I think the Young Bucks are gonna win this one.
Speaker 10: I agree that it's not time for the end of
Speaker 10: their title reign, yet I think it's gonna be very good.
Speaker 10: I think that Fletcher and Osbury bring enough to challenge
Speaker 10: the Young Bucks. Sometimes when I watch the Young Bucks,
Speaker 10: I feel like they're not taking their matches very seriously,
Speaker 10: and it seems like they're not getting a real challenge
Speaker 10: out of things. That could be just them hamming it
Speaker 10: up and acting like everyone is kind of beneath them.
Speaker 10: But I would really like to see them have to
Speaker 10: fight for things. So I'm looking forward to this one.
Speaker 10: But I do think that the Young Bucks are ultimately
Speaker 10: going to come out on top. So that's my prediction.
Speaker 1: Who is right?
Speaker 10: Yeah, don't you there.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry I got on a wrong section there.
Speaker 1: I couldn't get it back.
Speaker 5: I think the problem with the Bucks lately is I
Speaker 5: don't remember them having a great match since they went
Speaker 5: up against the Luci Bros. A few years ago. They've
Speaker 5: been in that scene, like fpr acclaimed, you know, they
Speaker 5: been with those guys for almost a year. They've been
Speaker 5: wrestling those guys, so it's kind of like they've gotten
Speaker 5: to a point where it's old. I unfortunately think they
Speaker 5: will win. I'd rather see it go to somebody else
Speaker 5: because I'm a little tired of their run. But you
Speaker 5: know it, it's probably going to be a little bit
Speaker 5: longer before they lose. But yeah, I think it'll be
Speaker 5: a great match. You might be right, Alex, it might
Speaker 5: be the match of the night, all right.
Speaker 1: Well, Rawlics. What do you think on this?
Speaker 9: I don't love First of all, I love that will
Speaker 9: Osprey has won basically all of the Gaunt because all
Speaker 9: of these Casino Gauntlet matches so far except for obviously
Speaker 9: the one that all in. But so I would like
Speaker 9: to see a little bit of change in that, not
Speaker 9: just have Ospray win every single time, whether it's tag
Speaker 9: team or singles. But in terms of this match, I
Speaker 9: totally understand what you're saying that in terms of like
Speaker 9: the Young Bucks maybe feeling like they're above the rest
Speaker 9: of the tag team division. Personally, I liked the Triple
Speaker 9: Threat match at all in with them FTR and the Acclaimed,
Speaker 9: But I'm glad we're getting we're basically drawing a line
Speaker 9: under Young Bucks FTR because I'm tired of that.
Speaker 7: But in terms of.
Speaker 9: This, it should be a fantastic match. But Matthew and
Speaker 9: Nicholas Jackson, I don't see them losing their tag titles
Speaker 9: until at least either Full Gear or most likely Worldsend
Speaker 9: when the Elite World maybe comes to an end something
Speaker 9: like that.
Speaker 1: All right, well, let's go to MK.
Speaker 6: So I'm in agreeance with everybody else. I think Young
Speaker 6: Bucks are going to win. I think it's gonna be
Speaker 6: by Shenanigans because you can't have Will Osprey lose flat out.
Speaker 6: Something's gonna happen, O'cata Perry. I don't know. Somebody will
Speaker 6: get involved eating Brandon Cutler for all I care, But
Speaker 6: I don't think Osprey leaves his clean.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm gonna have to agree with you there, mkay.
Speaker 1: I just don't see this as being in a clean match.
Speaker 1: I for some reason, I have it in my mind
Speaker 1: that this is gonna be somewhat of an extension. I've
Speaker 1: got to also agree with Rawlins in that you know,
Speaker 1: Osprey is winning a lot of these special matches to
Speaker 1: get into these title shots. Let's hope that we don't
Speaker 1: have a women in Scotland and Wilhelmina Ospar wins that.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I mean, we've got to turn
Speaker 1: something around. So I pick my pick is neither of
Speaker 1: them win. I think that this is going to be
Speaker 1: a clean anyway. I think this is going to be
Speaker 1: a disqualification on one one side or the other. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that the Bucks are going to get disqualified.
Speaker 1: Maybe the don Kallis family steps in. Maybe Powerhouse Hobs
Speaker 1: comes back and makes a uh, makes a mistake I
Speaker 1: don't know, and causes a disqualification. So let's move on
Speaker 1: to another match. I this is one that I kind
Speaker 1: of find somewhat interesting and somewhat annoying, and that's the
Speaker 1: Hangman Adam Page against Jeff Jarrett match. We talked about
Speaker 1: this last week where I even said Jeff Jarrett against
Speaker 1: Hangman Adam Page, Nah, that's not gonna happen. That's not
Speaker 1: gonna happen to Grand Slam. I was wrong. It definitely
Speaker 1: is happening. This is the uh the Lumberjacks strap match.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be interesting if Prince Nana or even swer
Speaker 1: Strickland was one of the Lumberjacks that would distract the
Speaker 1: hell out of hag Man Adam Page. I haven't feel
Speaker 1: like Handman added Page is going to come out of
Speaker 1: this one with the bruise back, but he's also gonna
Speaker 1: come out of this one with a win. So let's
Speaker 1: go over to We go to not because I'm all
Speaker 1: confused because that went first this last time because unfortunately
Speaker 1: Wolf had to leave, So we'll go right to Sutton.
Speaker 5: So it's gonna be a good match. I mean, jif
Speaker 5: Garrett puts on matches still that are decent, the Lumberjacks
Speaker 5: are going to be interesting. You know, you're gonna have
Speaker 5: Jared's Lil Klan out there and they're gonna they're gonna
Speaker 5: help beat on Page. I don't know, it's it's just
Speaker 5: gonna be one of those matches that it'll be good.
Speaker 5: I don't think it'll be great, but it'll be decent.
Speaker 1: It'll be entertaining, yeah, for sure, but it's not gonna
Speaker 1: be like the Match of the Night contender.
Speaker 5: I know I would actually put this match first and
Speaker 5: get it over with.
Speaker 1: Okay, you never know, Rollins, what do you think.
Speaker 9: I thought we were gonna get this singles match at all?
Speaker 7: In so that surprised me.
Speaker 9: But Sutton, as much as I've hated on Jeff Jerry
Speaker 9: in the past, Kelson, you know I'm talking about. I
Speaker 9: think this match is gonna be way better than you're
Speaker 9: giving it credit for. Like since Hangman has come back,
Speaker 9: first of all, this care he has right now is
Speaker 9: absolutely fantastic, where he's just a total you that tick
Speaker 9: that goes Insanye any chance he gets all because of
Speaker 9: Swerve Strickland, and I like the work Jeff Jarrett is
Speaker 9: doing now, So I think this match is gonna be
Speaker 9: a lot better than your giving it credit for Siddon.
Speaker 5: I just I just don't think it's gonna be that
Speaker 5: that big a match. I mean, it'll be fun to
Speaker 5: us because you're gonna have one guy get thrown out
Speaker 5: one side, one guy get thrown out the other side.
Speaker 5: They're gonna have the strap one. It's just gonna be
Speaker 5: one of those matches that it's gonna be good. I
Speaker 5: just don't think it's gonna be great.
Speaker 9: Let me ask you a question, though, does aid when
Speaker 9: AW does a strap match, do they miss them think
Speaker 9: about it?
Speaker 5: Well, they don't do traditional strap matches because the traditional
Speaker 5: strap matches you have to take the person to each
Speaker 5: corner and hit four consecutive corners. They don't do that.
Speaker 5: That's a traditional strap match, and they just strap them.
Speaker 1: Together and let them go. Am I wrong here?
Speaker 7: Something?
Speaker 1: Am I wrong here? And saying that this is definitely
Speaker 1: not a from what I'm understanding is they are not
Speaker 1: going to be strapped together in the ring. It's the
Speaker 1: lumberjacks that are going to have the straps.
Speaker 5: Wait, wait a minute, what then?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 5: I had not heard that and that makes absolutely no sense.
Speaker 1: That's just why why would you do that based on
Speaker 1: the promo, That's what it sounded like to me.
Speaker 5: Well, my son just told me after I went on
Speaker 5: thing that they're saying that something in the advertising about
Speaker 5: what's this match before you see it on Saturday. I don't,
Speaker 5: I don't know, he said. He told me it was
Speaker 5: said it's good for collision. But I'm like, it's not
Speaker 5: saying that on anything I've seen. So it's just that
Speaker 5: is weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we'll see what happens. Oh hell, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: let's go to you and hear what your thoughts are.
Speaker 6: So I think, honestly, Jeff Jarr is gonna go to
Speaker 6: the woodshed, as j R. Would say, and get the
Speaker 6: crap be out of him. He's gonna, I don't. I
Speaker 6: imagine they're gonna be strapped together, but I don't see it.
Speaker 6: I see there's the four corners match. They can both
Speaker 6: have that that strap. They're gonna beat the crap edge
Speaker 6: of the box with it, and uh, Jeff Chair's gonna
Speaker 6: end up the leasing and probably take take some time off.
Speaker 1: Okay, well that what are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 10: Okay?
Speaker 7: Sorry?
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 10: I don't know. I don't know what's going on with
Speaker 10: this match, so.
Speaker 7: I yeah, obviously.
Speaker 10: I think it's I think Hangman will win, but I
Speaker 10: think that they're giving us this match is more of
Speaker 10: a story building match than they then, I don't know,
Speaker 10: a real entertainment value match. Maybe some kind of long
Speaker 10: term story with Jeff Jarrett fighting his own demons somewhere
Speaker 10: down the road. I don't know, but I think Hangman
Speaker 10: will ultimately win, and yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna
Speaker 10: be interesting. I wonder who the Lumberjacks are and what
Speaker 10: is going on, so we'll see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't really explain this match very well, I
Speaker 1: guess because I've confused. But then again I confuse what
Speaker 1: I tie my shoe in the morning. I understand that
Speaker 1: I just said shoe news. No, I don't type both
Speaker 1: of them too normal anyway, Alex, what are your thoughts
Speaker 1: on this match and bring us into the next one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Jeff Jared to me, he's not really a
Speaker 2: threat to hang in Adam Page. So I'm picking Hangman
Speaker 2: to win, and I think it'd be a shame if
Speaker 2: anything else happened. I do like the Lumberjack part of
Speaker 2: it because presumably Hangman has made enemies with everybody else
Speaker 2: in AW, so it's gonna be just Hangman surrounded by
Speaker 2: people that don't like him. So that part I'm into.
Speaker 2: But it is a weird match. I don't know what
Speaker 2: else to say. And moving into the next match we're
Speaker 2: going to talk about, I'm gonna choose definitely Kelson's favorite
Speaker 2: match on the card, the ft Championship match. We have
Speaker 2: Roderick's strong, challenging Hook for the FTW title. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: hoping this few doesn't keep going after this match, and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pick Hook to retain. It seems like he
Speaker 2: is just if he's not the FTW champion, then he
Speaker 2: will be fighting to get the FTW Championship back and
Speaker 2: that's just going to be the rest of Hook's life,
Speaker 2: it seems. Yeah, oh yeah, I'm picking Hook to retain.
Speaker 2: And I guess next up to talk about it is.
Speaker 7: Yes, Helson.
Speaker 9: If we talk about the FTW Championship and Hook up,
Speaker 9: our old friend might come back, but.
Speaker 1: Only the Matchson.
Speaker 9: That's true because you our friends Sleazy was obsessed with
Speaker 9: the FTW tile. But in terms of this match, it's
Speaker 9: just kind of there I don't really care either way.
Speaker 9: I never understood the point of Hook feuding with Chris
Speaker 9: Jericho over the FTW Championship in the first place.
Speaker 7: So yeah, that's it. I don't have anything else.
Speaker 1: I gos anyway, Let's go to eb K.
Speaker 6: So I had the feeling this is gonna be a
Speaker 6: match of throwing people around, gonna be Superplux versus Backbreaker.
Speaker 6: I don't I've said him many times before. I don't
Speaker 6: care about Hook. I would be fine if he honestly
Speaker 6: went somewhere, went to ring him honor, went somewhere else.
Speaker 6: I just don't get the love affair that Tony has
Speaker 6: with Hook.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, Matt, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 10: No matter who wins this match, I feel like me,
Speaker 10: as a fan loses, so I said, So I agree,
Speaker 10: though I don't know what the obsession is with Hook.
Speaker 10: There there's more that could be done with both him
Speaker 10: and Roderick Strong. And I'm saying that as someone who
Speaker 10: does not like Roderick Strong. But I don't know why
Speaker 10: this is going on. I wish they'd retire that belt
Speaker 10: and find something more useful to do with each of
Speaker 10: those wrestlers. What I don't know, but but not this match. No.
Speaker 10: So I see Hook winning because he's he's either winning
Speaker 10: that belt or he's trying to win that belt. That
Speaker 10: seems to be his whole character, so I think he's
Speaker 10: going to keep it. Mm hmm, that's it.
Speaker 1: Okay, suck did us with your best shot?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I can't stand roder Strong. This match is going
Speaker 5: to be a waste because of him more than any anything.
Speaker 5: I get why they do with I mean, they're gonna
Speaker 5: keep the FTW title around and Hook's going to be
Speaker 5: a big deal as long as his dad is still there.
Speaker 5: And that's what it comes down to. I mean, I
Speaker 5: think it could be great if he was giving or
Speaker 5: given a different direction, but it is what it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could sum it up the way I feel
Speaker 1: in about three sentences. I don't and have never given
Speaker 1: a shit about the FTW title. Right now, I don't
Speaker 1: give a shit about Hook, and right now I don't
Speaker 1: give a shit about Roderick Strong. I don't give a
Speaker 1: shit about this match. So let's move on. Was that?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: Was that? Uh? I hate being negative, but this match
Speaker 1: is shit. It is. I'm sorry, but it is. God. Well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the women's match. Mariah May against Yukaza Kazaki. Look,
Speaker 1: I don't think the yu Kazakazaki gets the credit that
Speaker 1: she deserves, and I think that Mariah May is not
Speaker 1: getting the credit that she deserves either. I mean, the
Speaker 1: crowd in Wilkespeare where I was, gave Mariah May literally
Speaker 1: no reaction whatsoever. They gave y Kazakazaki a lot of reaction.
Speaker 1: Uh Yuka is a tough cookie. That's her character. She's
Speaker 1: a brawler. She's cute and bubbly and nice, and she's
Speaker 1: like dad housing without makeup. She's very nice, very evil.
Speaker 1: She'll rip your head off and whatever do stuff down
Speaker 1: your throat that you don't yeh shit down your throat.
Speaker 1: I'm using that word a lot tonight. So anyway, there
Speaker 1: is no chance in hell that Yakazakazaki wins this match. However,
Speaker 1: she may not lose it. Mariah May has already been
Speaker 1: disqualified once. I wouldn't mind to see Mariah May get
Speaker 1: disqualified again.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: I think this this particular feud is a good one.
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see whether Mariah uh Mina Shirakawa comes back.
Speaker 1: Mita Shikawa did make a statement, you know, on a
Speaker 1: video that she is coming back. Will it be a
Speaker 1: Grand Slam, it's a big stage. Might as well bring
Speaker 1: her back. As far as the winner goes, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be Mariah May Unless there's a disqualification. There's no chance
Speaker 1: whatsoever y Kasakazaki wins is this match. I hate to
Speaker 1: break it to Yuka fans, but it's it's the truth. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go to you.
Speaker 6: You know I tend to agree with you. Well, who
Speaker 6: all know that she's not gonna win. But I think
Speaker 6: it's gonna be a good, very good match. I think
Speaker 6: it'll be an underrated match at that point. But I
Speaker 6: don't even know who this girl is. I haven't really
Speaker 6: been paying attention to Dynamite in those matches yet, but
Speaker 6: has been a kind of underwhelming. But I don't know
Speaker 6: if that's looking's faul. I don't think it's Maria's fault
Speaker 6: at all. But they need to figure out something to
Speaker 6: get the steam back. Maybe maybe Tony coming back or men.
Speaker 6: I don't know that something has to happen.
Speaker 1: All right, that what are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 10: Sorry? I think that Mariah will win, of course. I
Speaker 10: think it's gonna be good though. I think we'll see
Speaker 10: them fighting again somewhere down the line, but Mariah. I
Speaker 10: also think that Mariah needs something. She's cooled off quite
Speaker 10: a bit and we need to bring some fire back
Speaker 10: to her. I don't know how, but she's missing something
Speaker 10: and I would like to see her developed a little
Speaker 10: bit more, do a little bit more, and I think
Speaker 10: overall it will be a good match. I found it
Speaker 10: pretty funny when Mariah was calling Yuka ten years old
Speaker 10: and referring to her as a child. So maybe there'll
Speaker 10: be some good insults there. Nothing else.
Speaker 1: We'll see, we will see something. What do you have
Speaker 1: to say about this?
Speaker 5: Mariah's gonna win, but it's gonna be a dequ I
Speaker 5: think that the thing she's missing is Tony Stormy. I
Speaker 5: think they had a great storyline, but I think it
Speaker 5: might have went They might have done it too long
Speaker 5: to make it so that now people are like, well,
Speaker 5: but she's not as good because Tony's not here, and
Speaker 5: I think that's what's missing. I think this qualification is
Speaker 5: going to become because tonight tomorrow night, because I think
Speaker 5: Mina's gonna come out and she's going to do one
Speaker 5: of two things. She's either gonna come in the ring
Speaker 5: and then take out Yuka or she's going to come
Speaker 5: in the ring and side with her side against May
Speaker 5: and set up a match for them down the road.
Speaker 5: That's just I just think that's what's gonna happen tomorrow.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Rawlin's let's hear your.
Speaker 7: Thoughts after she won the title.
Speaker 9: I thought you gonna get like a big time feud,
Speaker 9: you know, like like, for example, a Willow Nightingale or
Speaker 9: somebody of that caliber. And it just feels like Yukasakazaki
Speaker 9: was not the right first opponent, if you will, for
Speaker 9: Mariah And it could be like what a few other
Speaker 9: people have said on here that Tony Storm's not around.
Speaker 9: But it's just like, I feel like you need like
Speaker 9: a thunder Rosa or a will of Nightingale, somebody like
Speaker 9: that to really get me interested in a Mariah May storyline.
Speaker 9: I guess coming off of everything with Tony Storm.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Well, Alex, what are your thoughts here? Got on?
Speaker 1: Mute Alex?
Speaker 3: Okay, let's try again.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I do think Mariah May will win this. I
Speaker 2: think there's no chance Yuka wins, but it's nice to
Speaker 2: see Yukasakazaki actually competing on Dynamite. I I think it's
Speaker 2: been years with their injury and then losing time, so
Speaker 2: you know, I could see them prolonging this feud a
Speaker 2: little bit. Maybe Mina shir Kawa comes back, and then
Speaker 2: that sets up up a tag match at the next
Speaker 2: pay per view between like Yuka and Riho, who we
Speaker 2: haven't seen for a little while, but it's kind of
Speaker 2: linked with Yuka.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I've got I've got.
Speaker 1: Let me interjects up to there on, Alex, let me
Speaker 1: ask you this. Let's say that the way Mina Shira
Speaker 1: Kwa shows up is that after the match, Mariah May
Speaker 1: beats down yu Kazakazaki and then Mina Shira Kylea comes
Speaker 1: out and she stands between Mariah May and Yukaza Kazaki.
Speaker 11: I feel like, yeah, I think she stands.
Speaker 1: Between them, But then I think that that Mina turns
Speaker 1: heel and starts beating up Yukaza Kazaki. But I have
Speaker 1: a different idea in that not Mina comes out, but
Speaker 1: Anna Jay comes out because they've been building her up.
Speaker 1: She's already made a statement that she's going after the
Speaker 1: World Championship and the TBS champion, so so she's going
Speaker 1: after Mariah and and Mercedes, and she comes out and
Speaker 1: gets in between them, and then Mina comes out. Then
Speaker 1: you set up something attag match with Maria May and
Speaker 1: Mina Shirakawa against Anti Ja or Yukaza Kazaki. Although if
Speaker 1: they go at angle where Yukaza Kazaki is beat up
Speaker 1: too bad, maybe Mariah May counts calls on one of
Speaker 1: her old friends to come back with her meeting. One
Speaker 1: of two people could be Tamelo again Taylo and Aig
Speaker 1: against Mariah May and Mina Shirakawa, or possibly, if not
Speaker 1: Ta Melo, maybe Azumi so Yeah or or azm so
Speaker 1: By kind of hoping for them to find a way
Speaker 1: to get Tamelo involved in this. Right, Alex, what what?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 1: What do you want to talk about next?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Sure, let's talk about Brian Danielson versus Nigel McGinnis. I'm
Speaker 2: on the fence if this match is actually even going
Speaker 2: to happen, because you know the stipulation if Brian is
Speaker 2: cleared to wrestle. I think we'll know if it's going
Speaker 2: to happen or not based on when it happens. If
Speaker 2: all the other matches have happened, then there's twenty minutes left,
Speaker 2: then it'll probably happen. If it's in the middle of
Speaker 2: the card, then maybe not. Anyways, I really liked Nigel's
Speaker 2: performance on Collision, and I think Kelson you had mentioned
Speaker 2: this before about him doing something weird with his mouth
Speaker 2: the whole time. Yeah, he was still doing that. It's
Speaker 2: making monkey faces.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: In the picture for Grand Slam, he's making the same
Speaker 2: monkey face. So maybe that's like a reference to a
Speaker 2: face he used to make and Ring of Honor.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure.
Speaker 11: It's I don't know.
Speaker 1: He didn't do it as much on the promo he
Speaker 1: did at the end of the Collision as he did
Speaker 1: in the first promo he did, or he actually challenged
Speaker 1: Brian Danielson. But yeah, it makes that It almost seems
Speaker 1: like he has dentures and they're falling out and he's
Speaker 1: making a face to pull it back in.
Speaker 2: I was thinking that because you had mentioned that, so
Speaker 2: I was looking very uh hard at his teeth. It
Speaker 2: looks like he has just normal teeth.
Speaker 11: So I don't know what it is, but he doesn't.
Speaker 1: I was even I was even thinking of it back
Speaker 1: my mind, and I know this is wrong. It's like
Speaker 1: Nigel McGinnis will be perfect for the next Planet of
Speaker 1: the Apes movie. Because he wouldn't need that much. Bakerp
Speaker 1: It's so wrong on so many levels because I like
Speaker 1: the guy, but he makes it he does he's making
Speaker 1: that weird ape face. I don't you know, and it's
Speaker 1: it's there's no other way for me to describe it.
Speaker 10: And I wonder why he's doing that. Maybe it's something
Speaker 10: that only him and Danielson know about.
Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, it's an insight joke.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's just as a real difficult time keeping his
Speaker 1: gum in his mouth. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be like nerves.
Speaker 2: You know, it is his first time doing a wrestling
Speaker 2: promo on live TV and along time even though he's
Speaker 2: you know, talking constantly.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a little weird. I just thought i'd
Speaker 2: call that out. But I did like his promo. I
Speaker 2: like his angle of you know, he could have had
Speaker 2: Danielson's career, but he he didn't for certain reasons. If
Speaker 2: this match does happen, Brian Danielson has to win. I
Speaker 2: think there's no way that he loses.
Speaker 11: But uh, do you think there's.
Speaker 1: Any way this match doesn't happen, Alex, I kind of.
Speaker 2: Do I think there's you know, maybe maybe a ten
Speaker 2: to twenty percent chance it doesn't happen, and it's setting
Speaker 2: up something further down the line. I think this match
Speaker 2: has to happen, but maybe not this day.
Speaker 1: I think the crowd would probably storm the ring and
Speaker 1: beat the hell out of Tony Con if this match.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be bad promoting, I think. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: imagine that don't happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why would you be setting it up for what
Speaker 1: three four weeks now? And well, Brian Danielson is still
Speaker 1: not coming, So thank you, kay, good night everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I think that's up first.
Speaker 10: Yeah, go ahead, Okay, are we still talking about the
Speaker 10: Danielson Nigel match? Yes we are, Okay, Okay, of course.
Speaker 10: I think Danielson will win. I don't I don't know
Speaker 10: that they'll actually wrestle tomorrow. I think maybe Danielson will
Speaker 10: come out to make an announcement that he's not ready
Speaker 10: to wrestle yet, and maybe he'll be ready. He's gonna
Speaker 10: say he'll be ready by I wrestle dream and Nigel
Speaker 10: will attack him. I kind of think that that's what's
Speaker 10: going to happen. So I think they're going to build
Speaker 10: it up to a fever pitch Frenzy a little bit
Speaker 10: more before they actually do wrestle. I'm looking forward to
Speaker 10: it though, so I think it's going to be really,
Speaker 10: really good, and they they pulled one over on me.
Speaker 10: I did not expect Nigel to be wrestling again, so
Speaker 10: I'm really looking forward to it.
Speaker 7: We'll see.
Speaker 10: Who is next.
Speaker 11: That would be me, that would be.
Speaker 7: Me.
Speaker 5: I see it happening, but I don't see it lasting
Speaker 5: very long. Like I said, you know, Nigel's been out
Speaker 5: of the ring for ten over ten years. He's had
Speaker 5: one fifteen minute thory in the in the Gauntlet match,
Speaker 5: and I just don't think that this match makes sense
Speaker 5: now if he's gonna wrestle Danielson, I think he needs
Speaker 5: a few other matches before that, get him some time
Speaker 5: in the ring to get his ring rust out, because
Speaker 5: I just can't see him lasting with Danielson. Danielsen's been
Speaker 5: going every day every week he's wrestling, and I just
Speaker 5: I don't know. I could see Tony putting it off,
Speaker 5: but I don't think for Wrestle Dream, because whoever wins
Speaker 5: the mox Derby match is getting that shot at Wrestle Dream.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, Rollins, what are your thoughts.
Speaker 9: So as I said in my Poe Purri, I don't
Speaker 9: think this match should be the main event. I think
Speaker 9: Moxley versus Darby should be the main event. But we
Speaker 9: can talk about that more when we get to Moxley
Speaker 9: versus Darby. I think the build to this match for
Speaker 9: Danielsen versus Nige has been so weird, partially because of
Speaker 9: everything with Moxley and Darby, with Moxley saying, oh, Danielson's
Speaker 9: not gonna make it to Grand Slam, so Darby you're
Speaker 9: not getting your title shot, but then Nigel comes out
Speaker 9: and says, hey, Danielson, you you should face me a
Speaker 9: Grand Slam. It's been very weird. So I think Danielsen
Speaker 9: wins if the match happens, but the whole thing's just
Speaker 9: kind of been very weird and not very clear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, what do you have to say?
Speaker 6: I don't think there's no way you advertise this as
Speaker 6: much they had and build it up and have have
Speaker 6: Nigel appear out of nowhere basically at all land and
Speaker 6: do his thing just to not have the match. I
Speaker 6: think if anybody can can work a match with someone
Speaker 6: like Nigel and make it look good, it's Brian Danielson
Speaker 6: because he can wrestle up broom and be just fine.
Speaker 6: So uh but I do see by Danilson, when winning
Speaker 6: it's gonna be a show off match. But people love
Speaker 6: nostalgia and this is why this is happening or else
Speaker 6: that wouldn't have happened now because people so many people
Speaker 6: want it that we can't put it off. If they
Speaker 6: put it off, Like you said, Kelson, I think people
Speaker 6: storm the ring because people want to feel bad. And
Speaker 6: the massive pop that Nigel got and he's ready because
Speaker 6: he took some massive bumps. I mean those bumps at all,
Speaker 6: Landa were not messing around. He's ready, Nigel. I don't
Speaker 6: know by Danielson, but yeah, yeah, no, I you.
Speaker 1: Know, I have to agree with pretty much everybody, specifically
Speaker 1: with some of the things that MK said and what
Speaker 1: what Rolin said. Yeah, the lead up to this has
Speaker 1: been weird because and I totally agree with that because look,
Speaker 1: we had AW put a two hour plus video the
Speaker 1: best of Nigel Beginness up this week on their AW
Speaker 1: YouTube channel, the Road to Grand Slam, which is another
Speaker 1: video that they produced. Now that video is only like
Speaker 1: ten or twelve minutes long or something like that, but
Speaker 1: they dedicated a lot of time to Nigel beginnings versus
Speaker 1: Daniel Daniel Garcia Brian Danielson. So it with all that
Speaker 1: promotion and of course Vigel coming out to the ring
Speaker 1: and doing promos a couple of times, and all the
Speaker 1: other vignettes that they've had, it would make zero sense
Speaker 1: for them to pull the rug out from under the
Speaker 1: fans and say, well, Danielson is not ready to go,
Speaker 1: so thank you for coming. Good night everybody. No, that's
Speaker 1: not going to happen. We are going to see something.
Speaker 1: If there's not a match, there's going to be a
Speaker 1: beatdown of some sort involving Brian Danielson. I just know
Speaker 1: where this goes. I really don't. If the match does happen,
Speaker 1: there is no way that Danielson's losing the match. But
Speaker 1: it is what it is. We'll have to see what happens.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Oh and MK had to go pick
Speaker 1: up his daughter from work, so we've lost somebody. Now
Speaker 1: let's talk about the final match that we can talk about,
Speaker 1: and that's John Moxley against Darby Allen. And this makes
Speaker 1: no sense to me whatsoever at all. I don't get it.
Speaker 4: Why just why I why are you having this match
Speaker 4: for Darby Allen earned.
Speaker 1: His world title shot weeks and weeks and weeks ago.
Speaker 1: And I understand Darby Allen's not going to back down
Speaker 1: from anybody. That's his character. Okay, And but again, if
Speaker 1: the Nige Will Beginners match with Brian Danielson happens, it
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. This doesn't make sense. That being said,
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of this match and I don't
Speaker 1: care who is it because it's a stupid match. It
Speaker 1: really is. This is one of those you've heard of
Speaker 1: no brainers. This is a no brainer. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is no brains brainer. I don't get this match. I
Speaker 1: will never get this match. It doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't. I don't. I don't understand this match.
Speaker 1: Have I said that enough? Something save me.
Speaker 5: Here's the thing. I get why they're doing it. They
Speaker 5: want to give They want to put this whole, continuous,
Speaker 5: whole Danielson Mox thing. It makes no sense. They could
Speaker 5: have did this so different. They could have had Mox
Speaker 5: come out during the Darby Danielson match and got him
Speaker 5: involved in it. There Nigel, I don't. I don't see
Speaker 5: Nigel and Danielson as being a pay per view or
Speaker 5: a pay per view style match. I don't think it
Speaker 5: should have been here. I think it should have been
Speaker 5: later after they could have been after he had to
Speaker 5: match with Darby, because you you talk about setting up
Speaker 5: the three two three weeks of set up for Danielson
Speaker 5: and Nigel. Darby's been been holding this thing for a month,
Speaker 5: month and a half, two months, so to change it
Speaker 5: like this and go, well, you know, Max saying he
Speaker 5: can't wrestle, and then it just does You're right, Hell,
Speaker 5: it makes no sense, But I understand that they're going to.
Speaker 5: I don't think this is going to have a conclusion.
Speaker 5: I don't think there's gonna be a winner. I think
Speaker 5: it's gonna set up a match for uh Wrestle Dream
Speaker 5: that might be a three way uh if not, I
Speaker 5: think Darby's gonna win just because I think Darby's gonna
Speaker 5: be the champ at Russell Dream if he wrestles Danielson.
Speaker 5: I just see that happening there since it's its home town.
Speaker 1: Some good points there, Rollins, What do you think, Kelson?
Speaker 9: I'm sorry, but you are talking out of your rass
Speaker 9: with this match. I am sure the build I'll give
Speaker 9: you and I'm Sutton, oh.
Speaker 12: Craig in the regard that, yes, the build has been
Speaker 12: a little bit weird, And again it ties back into
Speaker 12: what I was saying with Nigel and Danielson and all that.
Speaker 7: But I honestly cannot call a winner on this matter.
Speaker 9: T Raight now, I could see I can make an
Speaker 9: argument for uh Darby. I can make an argument for
Speaker 9: Moxley because it just brought Moxley back.
Speaker 7: He established this new version.
Speaker 9: Of the BCC suffocated Daniel saying with a plastic bag.
Speaker 7: But at the same time, Diet.
Speaker 9: I'm sorry Darby earned this title shine Now he's the
Speaker 9: one playing on the line, so it could go either way.
Speaker 7: I can't wait for this match.
Speaker 9: As I've said multiple times, I think this should be
Speaker 9: the main event, not nigh Joe versus Daniel Saying, because
Speaker 9: Moxley versus Darby has a lot more stakes. I think
Speaker 9: it's gonna be a lot more violent, and I can't
Speaker 9: wait for this match.
Speaker 7: It is gonna for me, it's gonna be match of
Speaker 7: the night.
Speaker 1: When you talk about a little bit weird having false teeth,
Speaker 1: but having braces on them is a little bit weird.
Speaker 1: The build up to this match is very weird.
Speaker 9: Okay, sure, but this is John Oxley at Darby Allen.
Speaker 9: These two are absolute maybe acts, and you know they're
Speaker 9: gonna put on an absolute fantastic match because neither of
Speaker 9: these guys know what it means to have a bad match. Well, no,
Speaker 9: I shouldn't say that, because the Coffin match between Darby
Speaker 9: and Jack Perry was just knack.
Speaker 7: Uh. So in general, uh huh.
Speaker 10: The exploding barbed wire match a few years ago.
Speaker 7: That, yeah, that wasn't Oxley's fault.
Speaker 9: But my point is, in general, except for a few times,
Speaker 9: Moxley and Darby don't know how to have a bad match.
Speaker 9: You maybe the bill as it quite made sense, but
Speaker 9: I'm loving it.
Speaker 7: I want to know.
Speaker 9: What's gonna happen, and I'm really looking forward to this match.
Speaker 5: Rolins, I hate to go against you on this, buddy,
Speaker 5: but it has absolutely nothing to do with what kind
Speaker 5: of match they can put on. The build should have
Speaker 5: never happened like this. You don't have somebody that you
Speaker 5: have a match set up for over a month and
Speaker 5: then all of a sudden say, well you know, in
Speaker 5: one second you say this match isn't gonna happen because
Speaker 5: I Marx come out and say this isn't gonna happen
Speaker 5: because he's not gonna make it, and then turn around
Speaker 5: later in the same show and go Nagel come out
Speaker 5: and say I've got a match for you against you
Speaker 5: since you don't have a match now. That makes no sense.
Speaker 5: There's absolutely no reason to do that when you have
Speaker 5: all this other stuff that you could have done to
Speaker 5: do it, and it's a Dynamite. It's not like it's
Speaker 5: a pay per view. It could have been done on
Speaker 5: any Dynamite and you could have had the match between
Speaker 5: him and Darby. They should have never made it for
Speaker 5: grants Land. They should have made it for Wrestle Dream.
Speaker 5: It would have been a totally different situation then. But
Speaker 5: it just makes no sense.
Speaker 1: Brother.
Speaker 9: See what I think they're gonna do at Wrestle Dream
Speaker 9: is Moxley against Wheel or Yudah for probably Wheel's third
Speaker 9: of the trios titles depending on how that triost doesn't.
Speaker 1: Make any sense based on what's happened in the very
Speaker 1: recent past. It doesn't rollins. I mean, look at what
Speaker 1: happened when Jay White got injured. They took they stripped
Speaker 1: the trios title from him. You're not gonna have a
Speaker 1: match for one third of a trios belt. It's but
Speaker 1: of course Tony Kahn may do that because he just
Speaker 1: does whatever. Matt, I want to ask you a question
Speaker 1: before you speak, and and Alex, I'm interested to hear
Speaker 1: what you have to say on this too. Uh. Simply put,
Speaker 1: when Darby Allen won his shot for a future world
Speaker 1: title shot, it was specified that it would be a
Speaker 1: Grand Slam. Now this isn't happening. Is that wrong? As
Speaker 1: far as people that bought tickets to go see this
Speaker 1: go see this show, wanted to see Darby Allen go
Speaker 1: against whomever Swore Strickland or Brian Danielson because we didn't
Speaker 1: know at the time, or it doesn't matter or not,
Speaker 1: And then what are you what are your thoughts on
Speaker 1: this match?
Speaker 10: Net Well, I think it's wrong for the people that
Speaker 10: bought tickets in anticipation of seeing seeing Darby try to
Speaker 10: get that title. Like before, in the subreddit, I was
Speaker 10: reminded by quite a few people that when you buy
Speaker 10: tickets for the shows, you expect a really good show,
Speaker 10: so you know you it's not it's not fair to
Speaker 10: those fans that bought tickets in anticipation of seeing that
Speaker 10: I don't know why the sudden switch and the the
Speaker 10: replacing or the putting Nigel in there.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 10: But as we've been discussing this it, you know, as
Speaker 10: as you all have come to know me, I'm a
Speaker 10: kind of conspiray, you know, the conspiracy theory person. I
Speaker 10: was thinking that maybe Nigel isn't really out to get Danielson,
Speaker 10: like we're thinking, maybe he's actually there to help him,
Speaker 10: and it's it's more so he it's as Nigel and
Speaker 10: Danielsen and Darby, we're going to pull a fast one
Speaker 10: on Moxley, and I can see that being a possibility.
Speaker 1: So let me give you another some food for thought.
Speaker 1: I believe that Brian Danielson is done at Russell Dream.
Speaker 1: He is losing this battle and Matt for his championship,
Speaker 1: and he's going to go into his semi retirement at
Speaker 1: Russell Dreams to go ahead and get his surgery, but
Speaker 1: they wanted to get this match in with Nigel before
Speaker 1: Russell Dreaming. This is the only way they can do it.
Speaker 1: So whomever he goes on to Wressell Dream to wrestle,
Speaker 1: that person is going to be your new AW World Champion.
Speaker 1: Alex what do you think.
Speaker 2: Pal, Yeah, so you know what you said about you know,
Speaker 2: they've changed it from Derby getting a title shot at
Speaker 2: Grand Slam to now he's in this match with Moxley.
Speaker 2: It's it's kind of questionable the logic of everything. I
Speaker 2: agree with that, but a lot of wrestling logic is questionable.
Speaker 2: If you try to break down too hard, nothing ever
Speaker 2: makes sense. So I can suspend my disbelief there. For me,
Speaker 2: it's kind of interesting as somebody that sees Darby as
Speaker 2: a potential future world champion. If he was just fighting
Speaker 2: Danielsen at Grand Slam, I would have written Darby off
Speaker 2: as just, you know, the challenger of the week and
Speaker 2: not somebody that's going to be in the title picture
Speaker 2: going forward. But this kind of makes it a lot
Speaker 2: more interesting in my opinion. You know that, you know,
Speaker 2: who knows what's gonna happen with Moxley. Darby could win
Speaker 2: this match and could go on to a big main
Speaker 2: event match at the pay per view versus Danielsen, and
Speaker 2: then I could see him potentially winning.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I do really like this match because I don't know
Speaker 2: what's going to happen, and it feels like it's part
Speaker 2: of the beginning of Darby's ascension to a top tier
Speaker 2: world title type of guy. And I think that that's
Speaker 2: really cool. So I'm going to positive on this ascension.
Speaker 1: When you said that, that was exactly the word I
Speaker 1: was going to use. So we're on the same page.
Speaker 3: Here is that?
Speaker 2: Are you saying it's too big of a word or
Speaker 2: you are agreeing?
Speaker 1: No, I'm agreeing. We're on the same page. I absolutely
Speaker 1: agree with you. That's exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It feels like Darby's way bigger of a deal right
Speaker 2: now than he's really ever been before, and he's getting
Speaker 2: treated as a big deal. So yeah, I'm going to
Speaker 2: pick Darby for this one. I'm not really confident either way,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I'll say Derby's gonna win.
Speaker 9: Here, Elison, I want to answer your question that I
Speaker 9: believe you asked Nat about if fans would be disappointed.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say no.
Speaker 13: Because we always know that, like the card is subject
Speaker 13: to change, like it happens with UFC pay per views
Speaker 13: all the.
Speaker 7: Time, or wrestling match.
Speaker 9: Cards for that match, like you think you're getting one match,
Speaker 9: but then somebody gets injured or something like that.
Speaker 7: They have to change the match.
Speaker 9: So in that regard, no, because you're still getting a
Speaker 9: Darby match against Moxley, and I think fans are still
Speaker 9: gonna be fine with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Well, look we're at the hour mark, but
Speaker 1: I want to cover Grand Slam Collision real quick. And
Speaker 1: so what we're gonna do is, I'm gonna ask everybody
Speaker 1: to give their thoughts on one match, and you can
Speaker 1: pick whatever match you want to pick and you can
Speaker 1: give your thoughts on it. We'll start with Alex.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna pick Jack Jack Perry TNT Championship Open Challenge.
Speaker 2: I saw a pick picture of Ricky Starks and people
Speaker 2: were predicting him as potentially being the guy that shows up.
Speaker 2: He's he's extra jacked now. He's been working out because
Speaker 2: he hasn't been having to wrestle because he hasn't been
Speaker 2: part of a w for the last since he lost
Speaker 2: the Tag team belts. So yeah, I'm predicting, you know,
Speaker 2: spicy take, Maybe Ricky Stark shows up here. Maybe a
Speaker 2: wins the title from Jack Perry.
Speaker 5: Hey, I got a question, did we miss the Sarayah match?
Speaker 1: We didn't go? That's on Collision.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, because it didn't shoot marcussion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it isn't marked on collision and some of the
Speaker 1: graphics it's not, but from my understanding, it is on collision.
Speaker 1: So that's why we didn't bring that. Okay, but sudden
Speaker 1: you're up neck? So which one do you want to
Speaker 1: talk about?
Speaker 5: Go with that one? What a crazy as match? That
Speaker 5: is Wolves the Wolves? The list of the rules. I'm
Speaker 5: sitting here going this is probably the most outrageously named
Speaker 5: match I think I've ever seen ever. So Siriah can
Speaker 5: do whatever she wants and Jamie can't do crap. That's
Speaker 5: basically what the rules are. So it's gonna be really interesting.
Speaker 5: I don't think. I don't think Saria wins regardless, but
Speaker 5: it's gonna be an interesting match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be uh. I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a beatdown. I think people kind of agree with that.
Speaker 1: It's just gonna be. It's gonna be a massacre. We
Speaker 1: can hope. Yeah, I mean, what can you do? Rawlins?
Speaker 1: What match do you want to talk about?
Speaker 9: Alice completely stole my thunder there.
Speaker 7: Don't get my hopes up, Alex.
Speaker 9: Don't do that because I will lose my ship if
Speaker 9: I hear that music tomorrow night and he comes out
Speaker 9: and challenges Jack Berry.
Speaker 7: Kelsy can tell you how big of a Ricky Stark
Speaker 7: saying I am, but I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 9: Why are we doing this sixth man tag team badge
Speaker 9: on Collision.
Speaker 7: Learning learning versus conglomeration.
Speaker 1: Because I could tell you why rawlins because we have
Speaker 1: to get Chris Jericho on as well as Orange Cassidy
Speaker 1: and Kyle O'Riley on at length twice a week. So
Speaker 1: you know, so hey, that that is what it is.
Speaker 1: This is your consolation match, you know, as far as
Speaker 1: you know, you stole my thunder rollins because, as I
Speaker 1: said earlier in the show, I will say it again
Speaker 1: about the show, I don't give a shit about this match.
Speaker 1: I hope it's the main event so I can go
Speaker 1: to better early. Let me put it that way.
Speaker 9: So the interesting thing is they're taping Collision tomorrow night, right,
Speaker 9: So I'm not gonna watch Collision on Saturday because that's
Speaker 9: the same time as the Georgia Alabama game, and Georgia
Speaker 9: is ranked number two. Alabama is ranked number four. So sorry,
Speaker 9: aw Collision, but I'm not watching. I'm going to watch
Speaker 9: Georgia Alabama instead. But I'm just like, why are we
Speaker 9: going back to a feud from five years ago that.
Speaker 7: Orange Cassie clearly won?
Speaker 9: And I'm just like, you don't have anything better for
Speaker 9: Orange Cassie. You don't have anything better for Jericho.
Speaker 7: Like, I don't get it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my best Tody kann impersonation for your rawlins.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, we do not have anything
Speaker 1: better for Warts Cassidy.
Speaker 5: I think you're looking at it wrong. I think this
Speaker 5: might be the turn of Bill. I think this might
Speaker 5: be the mash that they used to have Big Bill
Speaker 5: turn on Jericho and the Learning Tree comes to an end.
Speaker 7: So that what the heck was the ploy of the
Speaker 7: Lordy Tree in the first place.
Speaker 1: There was never any point to the tree in the
Speaker 1: first place.
Speaker 5: It's not it's not been that bad. I mean, it
Speaker 5: has its moments, It's had some issues, but all in all,
Speaker 5: first Jericho's did what he wanted to do. I think
Speaker 5: it's time that Jericho's the Learning Trees kind of hooks
Speaker 5: out of the vortex the Orange Cassidy. Things pretty much
Speaker 5: been settled. I think this match is going to go
Speaker 5: for about ten minutes and then something's gonna happen where
Speaker 5: Jericho gets thrown in the corner and hits Bill. Bill's
Speaker 5: gonna attack him and that's gonna end the match. I
Speaker 5: just think it's that time.
Speaker 1: Ah. I got a headache just from talking about this match.
Speaker 1: Nut Save Us.
Speaker 10: Oh goodness, I'm looking forward to the Hater Surrea match.
Speaker 10: I want to see that. So that's my pick. But
Speaker 10: I can't say I'm really excited in general about Collision
Speaker 10: because the Learning Tree and Orange Cassidy, they they've exhausted
Speaker 10: me more so than book running around with that FTW
Speaker 10: try title, So I'm just tired of that, the whole
Speaker 10: thing there. But I am excited to see Jamie Hayter
Speaker 10: back in general, and that's the one saving Grace. Yep,
Speaker 10: that's it.
Speaker 1: Well, Alex bring us home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just gonna quickly mention the three way Lucha
Speaker 2: Libre match. Uh, that's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, see Mortos is going to actually get
Speaker 1: a win this year.
Speaker 2: Well, he got to win against the Commander on Ring
Speaker 2: of Honor their their last pay per view.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but everybody, unfortunately, I mean I would I would
Speaker 1: love Bordos and good Mortos and Commander should be a
Speaker 1: tag team so that they could just get double the
Speaker 1: losses and what bell swoop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I don't think there's any chance he
Speaker 2: wins this because I think Hologram's undefeated, so you can't
Speaker 2: just have him lose on a random collision. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I think unfortunately, mortas, but.
Speaker 1: Aren't they all read them collisions at this point?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well this is this is more of a special collision,
Speaker 2: I guess than anything.
Speaker 1: But this is a special random collision.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, appreciate it. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Well, guys, we'll be back tomorrow night after Dynamite to
Speaker 1: give our thoughts on Grand Slam Dynamite. It's going to
Speaker 1: be an interesting night. I think there could be so surprises. Uh.
Speaker 1: For example, will the FTW title get burned tomorrow night?
Speaker 11: Will any of.
Speaker 1: Us actually watch that match?
Speaker 3: Uh? Oh, I'll watch it.
Speaker 5: Oh geez, I'll least have it on in the background.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: No turn where he burns the title in front of
Speaker 2: his dad, his dad's screens.
Speaker 5: That could be coming too, because they could have that
Speaker 5: whole thing where decides he's done being anybody's man is
Speaker 5: gonna do out on his own, and that could happen.
Speaker 1: I have a feeling a lot of fans are gonna
Speaker 1: be listening to that match from the bathroom. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but that is a dog I square.
Speaker 10: Oh god, Sorry, there's one thing before we go. I
Speaker 10: just want to say I conspiracy, No, not a conspiracy.
Speaker 10: I met a wrestler that wrestled a little bit in
Speaker 10: aw and wrestled in New Japan who was very very
Speaker 10: nice to me, and I told him about our podcast
Speaker 10: and got a picture and he's a really cool guy.
Speaker 10: So it's uh, Heaven Jet to Fly Night.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 10: Yeah, he's very very nice and maybe he will join
Speaker 10: us on the podcast at some point.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 10: Yes, he's very.
Speaker 1: Nice, very nice. I'm always I've always throwing what people
Speaker 1: have stories about how nice are wrestlers Ben to them?
Speaker 10: He wrestled Ben Benjamin what's his name? Is it Livingston?
Speaker 10: Living from God? I can't think of his name. He
Speaker 10: he was in w W E for I can say
Speaker 10: that that that really he's kind of an arrogant, really
Speaker 10: good technical wrestler.
Speaker 1: When you said arrogant, so I thought you were talking
Speaker 1: about something there for a second.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it's Benjamin Livingston. I think it's his name.
Speaker 10: I have to I have to look at my pictures
Speaker 10: and stuff. But he wrestled him, and and Ben the
Speaker 10: Benjamin guy called Jet the next gold standard of wrestling,
Speaker 10: and Shelton Benjamin she Benjamin, Yeah, okay, yeah he was.
Speaker 10: And Jet was trained by Nick Wayne's dad and by Shabata,
Speaker 10: so it was yeah, he's nice and he's been on
Speaker 10: a w before too.
Speaker 1: So before we go, before we go, you brought up
Speaker 1: Sabata and that reminded me of, uh of something. Uh.
Speaker 1: We saw a video posted on integ Instagram of the
Speaker 1: Golden Lovers training in Japan last week, and Petty Omeega
Speaker 1: kind of made a you know, a little job. He said,
Speaker 1: I was not training, I was I was buying some
Speaker 1: I was in Japan buying clothes for work. Well, we
Speaker 1: already know, always already know what Kenny Obiga's work is.
Speaker 1: Might we see the Golden Lovers tomorrow night in that
Speaker 1: World Championship tag match?
Speaker 11: Wow?
Speaker 1: Thank god they think on that Golden Lovers tomorrow night.
Speaker 1: You heard it here on the Dollen w fan Hub
Speaker 1: Ignition podcast. We will see you tomorrow night after Dynamite.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll be talking about the Golden Lovers. Who knows?
Speaker 11: Anyway, This is Kelson Alex good night everybody.
Speaker 1: Hey YO, good night. You know