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So we're gonna do that first, and then 43 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,680 we'll get into football. We do know that it's getting 44 00:01:57,719 --> 00:01:59,680 to the off season and spring ball is going on, 45 00:01:59,719 --> 00:02:02,280 but it's still a basketball season. Your thoughts and your 46 00:02:02,359 --> 00:02:06,599 overall takeaway from the BYU basketball season, Casey, did BYU 47 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,759 basketball get the return on investment with aj De Bonsa? 48 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,840 There's a lot of stuff right there in the national 49 00:02:11,879 --> 00:02:13,120 media that that doesn't think. 50 00:02:13,159 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 4: So, yeah, I think two things can be true. I 51 00:02:17,039 --> 00:02:21,800 think BYU got there. I think BYU got their ROI 52 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,280 out of a j De Bonsa while also not getting 53 00:02:25,319 --> 00:02:26,680 the ROI on the team. 54 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:27,039 Speaker 2: As a whole. 55 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 4: And that's not necessarily the fault of Kevin Young per 56 00:02:31,039 --> 00:02:34,080 se that I think the injuries were the biggest factor 57 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,240 in that. Like if you go back to that game 58 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,520 against Wisconsin when BYU was fully healthy and they beat 59 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,080 a good Wisconsin team by you know, nearly forty points, 60 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,599 that team either that game had you know, a dynamic 61 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:53,039 performance from Dawson Baker, Richie Saunders was also shooting it well, 62 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,599 like that's what BYU was supposed to look like. And 63 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,479 so no, I don't think b YU got the ROI 64 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,520 on this team, and that's because of injuries. And that's 65 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,199 also kind of the risk that you run the nil era. 66 00:03:06,599 --> 00:03:09,560 I think it's going to be really interesting to see 67 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,680 how the donors feel about the basketball roster next year, 68 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,719 knowing that, you know, maybe the outcome wasn't what they 69 00:03:16,719 --> 00:03:19,039 hoped it would be. But that's also kind of the 70 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,360 game you have to play. There are teams like take 71 00:03:22,039 --> 00:03:25,280 LSU last year. LSU had one of the most expensive 72 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,439 football rosters in college football, and they were, you know, 73 00:03:28,479 --> 00:03:31,919 a really bad football program. So if you're going to 74 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,199 win in the nil era, you have to invest at 75 00:03:35,199 --> 00:03:38,719 a level high enough to compete. Even after those years 76 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,759 where the outcome wasn't what you hoped. 77 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: Bring up a good point with LSU football and even 78 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,039 think of that, Yeah, you got to invest the right way. 79 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,919 But just because of a down year of things don't 80 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,199 go the way doesn't mean things change. You do have 81 00:03:50,199 --> 00:03:52,080 to make an adjustment, but what does that adjustment look like. 82 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,919 The victory you're talking about is the one of the 83 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,120 Bad Boy Mower series in Salt Lake where BYU number 84 00:03:58,199 --> 00:04:00,639 nine behave you at the time. It's crazy that was 85 00:04:00,719 --> 00:04:02,400 number nine and then they finished not even in the 86 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:03,439 ap top twenty five. 87 00:04:03,759 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: They blew him out in ninety eight to seventy. 88 00:04:05,479 --> 00:04:08,199 Speaker 3: You heard to Richie was twenty six points that game, 89 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,599 ten of sixteen from the field, five of nine from three. 90 00:04:10,759 --> 00:04:12,840 AJ had eighteen points. He went eleven to twelve from 91 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,040 the charity stripe. Rob Wright had ten points, eleven assists. 92 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:18,279 Dawson Baker was four or six from the field. He 93 00:04:18,399 --> 00:04:20,959 chipped in eleven points and added three rebounds as well 94 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,560 two offensive rebounds. Man Dawson getting on the boards there. 95 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,800 And then you add you look at the bench production. 96 00:04:26,399 --> 00:04:29,680 You know, Dominique had six, hadem Malihilow had three, Tyler 97 00:04:29,759 --> 00:04:33,120 Maruss had six, Xavion had two, Alexi Kosch had three. 98 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,680 That you're right, that is what you expect the BYU 99 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,439 to be when they're fully healthy, and is just unfortunate. 100 00:04:38,519 --> 00:04:40,560 So where do you go from here? 101 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 2: Then? Because I asked this question yesterday to Jay Drew 102 00:04:44,759 --> 00:04:46,959 and I'll ask it to you. If Rob Wright. 103 00:04:46,759 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: Does come back and you have kJ, Perry Bruce Branch 104 00:04:49,759 --> 00:04:51,279 is also coming and I assume he's gonna do a 105 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,759 little point four, not like AJ, but he can handle 106 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,000 a little bit. You got Dawson, you got Night. That's 107 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,680 a lot of guards or a lot of guys to 108 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,759 have the ball in their hand. Can all of those 109 00:04:59,759 --> 00:05:01,720 guys coexist on his team together. 110 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 4: I think probably not. I think you'll you'll probably see 111 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,120 at least a few of them enter the transfer portal, 112 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,319 or you know, in the case of Dawson Baker, like 113 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,360 who knows where his eligibility stands, where his health will 114 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,959 will be by the time the you know, the basketball 115 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,040 season comes around. It's easy to forget that Dawson Baker. Yes, 116 00:05:24,079 --> 00:05:26,959 he was dealing with an acl that to the end 117 00:05:26,959 --> 00:05:29,839 of his season, but throughout his BYU career he's had 118 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,680 a foot problem that has kept him out for extended 119 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,319 periods of time. So his situation is complex, and I 120 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:42,319 think there's a there's probably not enough you know, just 121 00:05:42,959 --> 00:05:46,040 dribbling to go around for all those all those ball handlers. 122 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,800 And I would say, I think based on how this 123 00:05:49,879 --> 00:05:52,199 last season went, I don't know that you need to 124 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,199 play kind of the game that BYU football played after 125 00:05:56,199 --> 00:05:59,279 a rough twenty twenty three season, which was, hey, stick 126 00:05:59,319 --> 00:06:03,199 to the plan, maintain the roster, because roster continuity will 127 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,120 be the strength in basketball. There's just more turnover. And 128 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,240 Kevin Young, you know, he knows how to get a 129 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:14,000 lot of pieces playing together well and so I would say, 130 00:06:14,759 --> 00:06:16,720 it's hard to know what you could go out and 131 00:06:16,759 --> 00:06:19,360 get not knowing who's going to be in the portal. 132 00:06:19,759 --> 00:06:22,959 And that's the challenge with nil. Unlike you know, NBA 133 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,519 free agency, you know what the market's going to look like, 134 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,319 you know how many you know, players at each each 135 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,040 position are going to be out there, and so you 136 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,839 can kind of make a plan accordingly. But this is 137 00:06:33,959 --> 00:06:36,519 very different. And so I would say if I were 138 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,399 in charge, and it's a good thing I'm not, But 139 00:06:38,399 --> 00:06:40,800 if I were in charge, I don't know that I would, 140 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,519 you know, feel a lot of heartburn if there was 141 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,639 some roster turnover in the next few weeks, that could 142 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,600 open up some some spots for potentially replacements that might 143 00:06:51,639 --> 00:06:55,720 be you know, better suited for for a BA basketball 144 00:06:55,759 --> 00:06:57,759 program that's hoping to make another run in the tournament 145 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:58,160 next year. 146 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, how does his roster maintain? 147 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 3: And then what I'm leading at is you pen to 148 00:07:01,759 --> 00:07:04,199 peace on s I B y U SI dot com. 149 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,600 You can check all of Casey Lunquist's work out there. 150 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,480 Dallen Hall at Virginia Cannon catching as we know that 151 00:07:09,519 --> 00:07:12,639 one didn't work out, He's at Georgia Elijah Crawford's at U, 152 00:07:12,639 --> 00:07:15,360 I see close by my home, Ali Khalifa. When Kevin 153 00:07:15,399 --> 00:07:18,519 Young came and decided to go to Louisville, Tanner Toolson's 154 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,800 at TC, You obviously Jake guaileina Utah went to Clemson. 155 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,319 Carter uh what is it? A Welling also went and 156 00:07:26,399 --> 00:07:29,360 joined him at Clemson. How does BYU maybe keep these 157 00:07:29,399 --> 00:07:32,120 local guys? They got Dean Ruger, they got will open shop. 158 00:07:32,199 --> 00:07:34,800 But a lot of a lot of fans, you know, 159 00:07:34,839 --> 00:07:36,720 would have liked to see Dollan Hall on this roster. 160 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,920 They would have liked the you know, Tanner Toulson to 161 00:07:38,959 --> 00:07:41,079 be on this roster, and and that just doesn't seem 162 00:07:41,079 --> 00:07:43,000 the case. It seemed to be the case these days. 163 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, we felt, you know, the what what the absence 164 00:07:47,519 --> 00:07:50,360 of Dawson Baker was for this team. And I think 165 00:07:50,399 --> 00:07:53,199 you look at someone like Tanner Toolson and well he's 166 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,560 a little bit different. He probably could have provided a 167 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,240 similar impact off the bench. So there's definitely some you know, 168 00:07:59,319 --> 00:08:01,000 what could have been if you look at guys that 169 00:08:01,519 --> 00:08:05,800 could have been in the program. But it's it is 170 00:08:05,879 --> 00:08:07,560 going to be a balancing act, and I think you 171 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:12,120 have to find two or three guys in every recruiting 172 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,079 class that you are willing to wait it out and 173 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,800 stick with their development, like a Dean Ruckert, Maybe like 174 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,079 a Brodie Kazlowski. You know, he's still around the program 175 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,800 and injuries have kind of derailed his career so far. 176 00:08:26,519 --> 00:08:31,839 But I think going forward, the ideal scenario for BYU 177 00:08:32,039 --> 00:08:35,200 is you have someone like a Richie Saunders who's experienced 178 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,240 in the program for four years. You have a core 179 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,240 of three or four of those guys every year that 180 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,240 are veterans and have been around the block of BYU. 181 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,879 And then you add on to that those transfers that 182 00:08:47,919 --> 00:08:49,679 fit the needs that that group has. 183 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 2: It's a great breakdown. 184 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: We got Casey Lanklis at Bousi dot com on the 185 00:08:53,399 --> 00:08:55,919 line with us here in a Cougar Beat segment Wednesday, 186 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,320 March twenty, fifth edition of Cougar Sports on the one 187 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,440 of three nine ninety eight three Now work, You bring 188 00:09:01,519 --> 00:09:03,840 up a good point of having veteran guys, guys around 189 00:09:03,879 --> 00:09:04,200 the program. 190 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: I would love to see Brody come back. I hope 191 00:09:06,039 --> 00:09:06,639 that's the case. 192 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 3: Would love to see Dawson take that last year that 193 00:09:10,039 --> 00:09:12,000 he could have. They said, obviously on the Kevin Young 194 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,200 show earlier this season. If he wants that sixth year 195 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,000 he could take it or fifty year, whichever one it is. 196 00:09:17,039 --> 00:09:19,000 I hope he does because I think those guys like 197 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,519 you mentioned could help with these younger guys like a 198 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,720 Bruce Branch coming in. Even Rob who's been around for 199 00:09:23,759 --> 00:09:25,919 a year and having known can do that and KG, 200 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,919 I think that is going to be able to help 201 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,200 let's transition to football. Though you were down there at practice, 202 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:35,240 what did you observe from the Monday observation session that 203 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,559 they let the media see, Casey? 204 00:09:39,039 --> 00:09:42,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I as you know, we had kind 205 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,320 of a tough angle of a practice we did, but 206 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,799 we were able to because they were kind of going 207 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,240 on drives. We were able to kind of follow the 208 00:09:50,279 --> 00:09:52,720 progress that we're making. And I was taking some notes 209 00:09:52,759 --> 00:09:56,039 and then some of my notes were corroborated by some 210 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,039 of the practice footage that by you shared out. And 211 00:10:00,159 --> 00:10:04,240 you know, for first of all, it is it is 212 00:10:04,279 --> 00:10:07,519 cool to still be able to attend a portion of practice. 213 00:10:07,639 --> 00:10:10,080 I know, you know, some some years we get more 214 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,519 than others, but you know, there are programs that have 215 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,759 completely shut out the media. So I do think it's 216 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,559 cool that the b YU does give us those snippets, 217 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,360 and I thought the one the other day was, you know, 218 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,320 pretty insightful by far. To me, the headline was, man, 219 00:10:25,399 --> 00:10:29,360 bear Bachmeyer is really good and he looks like he's 220 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,679 taken a notch or two just in the last few 221 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,840 months from where he left off at the bowl game, 222 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,480 which where you know, he was the MVP. He was 223 00:10:37,519 --> 00:10:40,519 playing at a really high level, but he was he 224 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,320 was just really efficient. He was really good, and he 225 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,919 led two drives that were quite impressive. One came up short, 226 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,360 you know, a couple of yards and it's hard to 227 00:10:50,399 --> 00:10:53,480 know because they're playing they're playing tag, right, so we 228 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,480 don't see, you know, the defense have to tackle a 229 00:10:56,519 --> 00:10:58,799 bear Bachmeyer and they marked them a yard short. So 230 00:10:58,879 --> 00:11:01,840 I think in real contact football, I think bear Bachmeyer 231 00:11:01,879 --> 00:11:06,240 probably leads to touchdown drives against the first string defense. 232 00:11:06,279 --> 00:11:09,519 So I was really impressed by Bear. That was definitely 233 00:11:09,519 --> 00:11:10,519 my primary takeaway. 234 00:11:11,039 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: Bear has been phenomenal. 235 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,639 Speaker 3: Obviously, I think that's going to be the MVP of 236 00:11:15,159 --> 00:11:17,480 springball from what you reserve, from what you're written about, 237 00:11:17,919 --> 00:11:21,440 who's the newcomer. You know, obviously Bear completed the pass 238 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:22,799 to Reggie Frishneck. 239 00:11:22,879 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: You know in the middle of the field. 240 00:11:24,639 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 3: There's been talking about Kyler Casper, Legend Glasker has turned 241 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,559 some heads. You know, these freshmen are phenomena that are 242 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,080 coming in. Who's I guess I can't really say MVP 243 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,039 because they's going to be bear. I guess you're a newcomer. 244 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,759 Who's the guy that's made the biggest impact you think 245 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:37,879 so far at springball? 246 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll give you two answers. Want to transfer newcomer? 247 00:11:41,799 --> 00:11:44,120 For me, it's just the easy answer is Kadu Luave. 248 00:11:45,039 --> 00:11:48,639 He looks as good as advertised. He's really fast, he's 249 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,679 really solid, and he's going to be an impact player 250 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,399 from the get go. I'm very high on him. And 251 00:11:55,440 --> 00:12:00,240 then as far as the incoming freshman class, I if 252 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,120 you've read my articles, you know that I've been very 253 00:12:02,159 --> 00:12:05,440 high on legend Glasgar. But even I have been surprised 254 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,480 at how quickly he has just stepped up and started 255 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,360 making plays. I don't know that we've had a media 256 00:12:11,399 --> 00:12:14,840 window where he didn't make at least some sort of play, 257 00:12:14,879 --> 00:12:17,279 which is quite hard for a freshman to do. I 258 00:12:17,279 --> 00:12:20,279 would say, in a normal camp setting, if a freshman 259 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:25,440 flashes once or twice, that is noteworthy. Enough that you 260 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,679 know it's worth paying attention to. And he has flashed 261 00:12:28,759 --> 00:12:32,159 pretty much every practice and that's been really impressive to me. 262 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,840 He is, you know, he's pretty thin. He came into 263 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,000 the program, you know, wanting to add some weight. He 264 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,120 told me. You know, I had the chance to chat 265 00:12:41,159 --> 00:12:44,240 with him after practice and get an interview, and he 266 00:12:44,279 --> 00:12:46,360 came into the program hoping to add some weight. And 267 00:12:46,399 --> 00:12:47,799 I think that's going to be a goal of his 268 00:12:47,879 --> 00:12:50,480 in the summer. And if he can, I think he's 269 00:12:50,519 --> 00:12:54,960 a freshman that can contribute right away and as a 270 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,960 guy that might be able to take the top off 271 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,399 a defense. It seems like whenever he's on the field, 272 00:12:59,759 --> 00:13:01,320 he's able to get behind the defense. 273 00:13:01,919 --> 00:13:04,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, Legend is definitely one of those guys. I think 274 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,320 that's gonna see time a rod. You know, you've been 275 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,320 there in the media availabilities he's mentioned. I say, we 276 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,279 got to hear from the horse's mouth. You know, Festi's 277 00:13:12,279 --> 00:13:14,720 a hockey, the wide receivers coach of what he's you know, 278 00:13:14,799 --> 00:13:17,200 seen on tape from Legend being Cruta caught up with him. 279 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,919 I caught up with Trayson yesterday. Were gonna play actually 280 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,159 interview in the next segment and Trayson mentioned on Monday, 281 00:13:23,399 --> 00:13:25,200 you know it's hard for freshmen to come and make plays, 282 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,440 and he mentioned legend Glasker and he's like, I don't 283 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,440 say that, you know, with the slight to anybody else, 284 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,559 but it's really difficult to come in and make an impact. 285 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,960 So it looks like that's a guy that could crack 286 00:13:34,039 --> 00:13:36,679 that ro wide receiver rotation. When you have guys like 287 00:13:36,759 --> 00:13:39,200 Kayla Casper in the room, you got Josiah Phillips, you 288 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,840 have Reggie Fishnek Taya Kouh has been making some plays. 289 00:13:41,879 --> 00:13:44,159 I saw that you mentioned Tay and in your article 290 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,840 the we know what the name Nikoua can do. 291 00:13:47,519 --> 00:13:48,039 Speaker 2: What do you like? 292 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 3: What have you liked from Tay so far in springball? 293 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:51,960 A Rod I think has mentioned him a few times. 294 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, to me, Tay just looks so much more comfortable 295 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,919 than he has in camp's past. I think the opportunity 296 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,320 that's in front of him has probably motivated him to, uh, 297 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,399 you know, have right in front of him a clear, 298 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:12,440 clear path to playing time. And you know, Bear tends 299 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:17,240 to create, you know, really solid relationships with three or 300 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,320 four guys, and I think last year we saw that 301 00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:24,399 was Jojo Phillips, Chase Roberts, and Parker Kingston. And if 302 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,399 I had to name the three or four that he's 303 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:29,519 connected with so far in spring camp, I think Tainakua 304 00:14:29,679 --> 00:14:31,759 would be one of those three or four. So I 305 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:36,559 expect Tay to play. Typically BYU rotates five or six 306 00:14:36,639 --> 00:14:39,320 and they start three. And I don't know that I 307 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,720 would put him in this starting lineup quite yet, but 308 00:14:41,759 --> 00:14:43,600 I do expect him to be in the rotation. 309 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Tekoa, he can move, he can play, He's a player. 310 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,960 So we'll see what happens. The last thing on spring 311 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,440 ball before asking a couple of recruiting questions, what is. 312 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:56,159 Speaker 2: Who do you think? 313 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,159 Speaker 3: I guess from the offensive line, it's very interesting to 314 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,159 you know, preface his question very carefully. But pockey Fee, 315 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,320 now you know, has been mentioned a handful of times. 316 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,559 But they also got junior, They got, you know, Zach 317 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:13,120 Yamauchi from Stanford. You got trevn Ostler, you have obviously 318 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,240 Kyle safarchunk back. Kilani says they want to have eight 319 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:16,720 to ten. 320 00:15:16,639 --> 00:15:18,919 Speaker 2: Guys and t J. Woolds will get We'll get them ready, 321 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,120 But how do you do that? 322 00:15:20,159 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 3: Even Bob Mulatal because Klanie's mentioned him, but you like 323 00:15:23,679 --> 00:15:25,679 bod and what he can bring. But then you you 324 00:15:25,759 --> 00:15:28,159 hear Pockey's name mentioned, and a guy that has experience 325 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,519 at Washington. Is the offensive line room the toughest that's 326 00:15:31,519 --> 00:15:33,200 going to be to get playing time? Is that going 327 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:34,480 to be the toughest position group. 328 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of bodies there. I think T J. 329 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,720 Woods has done a really good job of just worrying 330 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,320 about bringing in as much talent as it can and 331 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,240 then letting it kind of rise to the surface whoever 332 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,120 is most ready to play. I think what we know 333 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,440 today for sure is that Bruce Mitchell and Andrew Gentry 334 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,320 are going to start. That's we knew that coming into camp. 335 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,639 I would expect Kyle's choke to start at one of 336 00:16:01,639 --> 00:16:05,399 the guard spots, and then I would also, you know, 337 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,320 I would expect Pockey fee now to start at left tackle. 338 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,879 That's my expectation as of today. Those things could change. 339 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,279 We know to who to who, excuse me, We know 340 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,799 who two starters are. We have a pretty good idea 341 00:16:18,919 --> 00:16:21,840 for who the other two might be. That that last 342 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,960 guard spot could go to Treman Ossler, it could go 343 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:30,519 to Zachi Mauchi, it could go to a handful of people. 344 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,080 Joe Brown and I think that's something that will probably 345 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,799 go into fall camp. But as it stands today, I 346 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,360 think by the time we get to week one, BYU 347 00:16:41,399 --> 00:16:44,559 will probably have eight to nine offensive linemen that they 348 00:16:44,559 --> 00:16:45,799 feel really good about playing. 349 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,919 Speaker 3: It's a lot of good offensive Liney mentioned a lot 350 00:16:47,919 --> 00:16:50,360 of good names. We'll see what Kialani and them able 351 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,960 to come up with. Is in t J Woods down 352 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,840 to stretch, any of those guys could start. I mean 353 00:16:55,159 --> 00:16:57,080 I said they're going to have a whole hockey line change. 354 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,159 They can go out and put a whole five guys 355 00:16:59,159 --> 00:17:01,279 out there and rotating five and honestly, I know that's 356 00:17:01,279 --> 00:17:03,559 what you do on the defensive line, but offensive line, 357 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,440 they could do it to a lot of good bodies. 358 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,279 Speaker 2: And you need depth, You need depth. So we will 359 00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:07,759 we will see. 360 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 3: Let's get into a little bit of a recruiting news. 361 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,759 What's the update on the latest recruiting cycle. It looks 362 00:17:12,839 --> 00:17:16,400 like there's a certain offensive lineman that's rising, you know, 363 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,440 on BYU's radar. 364 00:17:17,519 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 2: He just he discussed a visit with you. 365 00:17:20,519 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, caught up with Henry Fraser, who is an offensive 366 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,599 line product out of Arkansas. He actually preps at the 367 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:31,920 same high school where Braxton Lindsay was a star last year. Braxton, 368 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,319 of course signed with BYU December and has been you know, 369 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,319 speaking of freshman standouts, he's been the guy that's been 370 00:17:38,799 --> 00:17:42,880 mentioned numerous times by the coaching staff, so he has 371 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:47,079 that connection to the program, and his recruitment has taken 372 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:48,960 off in the last three weeks. You know, this time 373 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,559 a month ago, he didn't have any P four offers. 374 00:17:52,039 --> 00:17:55,400 He had I think, you know, Louisiana Lafayette was probably 375 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,440 his his top offer, and now he's got offers from Arkansas, 376 00:17:59,559 --> 00:18:04,119 Kansas State BYU Navies in the mix. So I don't 377 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,480 think his recruiting profile will just stop here. He's probably 378 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,000 going to continue to see his stock rise. But just 379 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,720 a week after getting a BYU offer, he was on 380 00:18:13,799 --> 00:18:16,400 campus per visit, so I had a chance to catch 381 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,400 up with him about that. And whenever you have, you know, 382 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,880 a chance to sit down with Kilani Satake and visit, 383 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,079 which he did. You know, there's a that gives BYU 384 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,880 a chance. So he's definitely a name I'm keeping an 385 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:30,160 eye on. 386 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is good news for BYU getting in the 387 00:18:32,799 --> 00:18:35,160 state of Arkansas. I already got Brax and Lindsay. I 388 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,440 know between you it looked like it was BYU and Arkansas. 389 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,920 You pull a kid from SEC school and you get 390 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,240 him to come to Provo and then in the pipeline 391 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,240 that helps having Braxton here as well. You mentioned if 392 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,279 this guy was what six foot four, two hundred and 393 00:18:47,319 --> 00:18:50,720 ninety pounds is a twenty twenty five All State selection 394 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,200 playing left tackle over there at Rogers High School. 395 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,039 Speaker 2: We'll get you out of here. 396 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,039 Speaker 3: On this last you also caught up with a with 397 00:18:58,079 --> 00:19:00,799 a certain cornerback that just got a new b YU offer. 398 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: Yep, yep. 399 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,039 Speaker 4: So that is a Texas native, John Catlin. He's a 400 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:12,960 dual sport athlete. He stars on the track and field team. 401 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,119 He has a personal best ten point six one hundred meter, 402 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,839 which for a junior is really fast. He's kind of 403 00:19:20,839 --> 00:19:24,839 an undersized cornerback. I wouldn't even say undersized, but I 404 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:30,079 think Gennaro Guildford was someone who liked to recruit someone who's, 405 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,039 you know, six' two or, taller and he's more in 406 00:19:33,079 --> 00:19:37,200 the five ten five eleven, range but really, quick and 407 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,559 he's able to come up and be physical as. WELL 408 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,240 i really liked his. Film he he stars as a 409 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,440 punt returner and kick. Returner something that he does is 410 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,039 a high enough LEVEL i think he could maybe even 411 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,759 do at the next. Level and his instincts really stood 412 00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:54,960 out to, me AND i THINK byu is in a 413 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,079 pretty good position at this. Point he only has one 414 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,759 other people offer In Iowa, state AND i would expect 415 00:20:00,759 --> 00:20:03,720 his offer list to grow as. Well but he's telling 416 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,640 me that he's trying to put, down you, know a 417 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,119 plan for an official, visit SO i THINK byu will 418 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,359 certainly be one of the finalists. 419 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: There definitely good when you offer, early you're one of the. 420 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,680 First got to get it sooner rather than, later AS i, 421 00:20:15,759 --> 00:20:17,960 say in the recruiting, world especially when you got a 422 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,240 sprinter who runs a ten to six one hundred meters 423 00:20:20,319 --> 00:20:22,559 like you, said speedy, flash you can definitely use, that 424 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,079 especially when you See Mary bomber run a four to two. 425 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,079 Speaker 2: Seven you gotta like. 426 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,839 Speaker 3: That if you're a guy coming INTO byu and seeing 427 00:20:28,839 --> 00:20:30,440 that with the DEVELOPMENT. 428 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 2: Casey appreciate your time today BEFORE i let you. 429 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,519 Speaker 3: Go where can people follow all of your work at 430 00:20:34,559 --> 00:20:36,480 and where you posted that on social media as? 431 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,319 Speaker 2: Well sure you. 432 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 4: Can find our stuff AT. Byu want TO Si thanks 433 00:20:40,519 --> 00:20:42,640 to all the readers that have read our stuff so. 434 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,119 Far we not do what we do without your. 435 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,279 Speaker 2: Sport thank, You. Casey appreciate your time. Today we'll catch 436 00:20:48,319 --> 00:20:48,839 up with you in a few. 437 00:20:48,839 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 4: Weeks, hey thanks, guys see. 438 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:51,279 Speaker 2: You we'll see. 439 00:20:51,319 --> 00:20:54,039 Speaker 3: Ye that Was Casey lunkliss THE byusi dot com and 440 00:20:54,279 --> 00:20:55,720 a Little Cougar beat segment that was. 441 00:20:55,759 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 2: Great if you missed any of. 442 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 3: It if you're just tuning into the, show you can 443 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,480 download on the podcast here momentary where we get your podcasts. 444 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,839 Speaker 2: From Appreciate casey joining us. TODAY a lot of good 445 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:04,400 stuff out of. 446 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 3: There Bar, Bachmeyer, Yeah springball DEFINITELY. Mvp they got a 447 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,119 few more, practices but that's gonna be the. Guy the 448 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,799 question is gonna BE i guess transfer a. Newcomer you 449 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,519 gotta have to split those up because there's a lot of, 450 00:21:15,559 --> 00:21:19,519 guys he Said. Cade obviously you know you Got, kyler 451 00:21:19,559 --> 00:21:22,599 you got, LEGEND i Asked jared. Yesterday the wide receivers 452 00:21:22,599 --> 00:21:25,400 have been making. Place Jojo Walker lyons has been. Great 453 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,960 This buoy football offense is gonna be. GREAT i don't 454 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,839 Think Steve klements was Wrong Bear bachmeyer four thousand. YARDS 455 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,599 i definitely think it can be, possible AND i do believe, 456 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,759 that EVEN i believe out of, everybody And i'm, serious. 457 00:21:36,839 --> 00:21:40,039 SERIOUS i Like Kyler, CASPER i Like, JOJO i Like, 458 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,039 TECHNICOUA i Like Legend. Glasker gimme number seven because that's 459 00:21:44,039 --> 00:21:46,079 the number he's wearing from What i've. Seen Gimmey walker 460 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,200 lyons as the best red zone threat on this. TEAM 461 00:21:49,279 --> 00:21:50,759 i think he's gonna be up. There he could be top, 462 00:21:50,799 --> 00:21:52,880 three but we will. See that's why the boys go. 463 00:21:53,279 --> 00:21:55,119 Play but That Cougar beat segment was brought to you 464 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,880 By Advanced Windows Advance windows dot. Com they're offering A 465 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,039 March windows. 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