WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.120 Hey guys, it's Jack. I just wanted to talk to 2 00:00:02.160 --> 00:00:04.679 you today about a way that you can help support 3 00:00:04.719 --> 00:00:08.199 the podcast if you're not already to support the channel 4 00:00:08.480 --> 00:00:11.919 is to become a Patreon member. So we have Patreon 5 00:00:11.960 --> 00:00:14.919 memberships that start at just five dollars a month, and 6 00:00:15.080 --> 00:00:17.600 when you sign up, you get access to all of 7 00:00:17.640 --> 00:00:20.839 our episodes add free. That's the big bonus for that. 8 00:00:21.039 --> 00:00:24.000 I mean, we also do some Patreon bonus episodes for 9 00:00:24.079 --> 00:00:27.920 our subscribers, but this is the biggest and best way 10 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:32.320 that you can support the Teamhouse channel and podcast if 11 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:35.280 you'd like to, and we really appreciate that, So go 12 00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:39.039 and check us out at patreon dot com. Slash the Teamhouse, 13 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:52.840 Special Operations, Covert Ops, Espionage, The Team House with your 14 00:00:52.840 --> 00:01:02.759 host Jack Murphy and David Park. Hey, folks, this is 15 00:01:02.799 --> 00:01:05.599 going to be our year in review pre recorded episode, 16 00:01:05.719 --> 00:01:08.959 so you guys are seeing this a few weeks after 17 00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:11.920 we recorded it, and we just use it. We do 18 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:15.079 one of these year in reviews every year, and basically 19 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:18.239 just to highlight all the different guests we had over 20 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:21.200 the year and maybe bring some attention to some episodes 21 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:23.959 you may have missed or folks who are just sort 22 00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:26.959 of finding the podcast this year and twenty twenty five 23 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:29.920 can watch this and maybe get a little idea of 24 00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:35.040 what they might be interested in. But overall, I mean, 25 00:01:35.079 --> 00:01:37.000 I don't know what you guys thought, but I was 26 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:40.200 not to pat ourselves on the back, But like I thought, 27 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:43.400 I was very happy with all the guests we had 28 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:46.239 on this year. I thought, like, it's a really I mean, 29 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:49.640 how many episodes was it? Like? Sixty eight sixty six 30 00:01:50.439 --> 00:01:55.359 and a good sixty seven and a good mix of 31 00:01:56.599 --> 00:02:02.400 foreign Special ops guys, CIA, Special Forces Rangers, MARSK Delta, 32 00:02:03.239 --> 00:02:09.080 some other spooky characters you know, New Zealand sas in, 33 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:13.800 some federal law enforcement DA, FBI, ATF all in there 34 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:18.080 this year. So it was a pretty good variety, I thought, yeah, 35 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:20.199 for sure. And that's you know, one of the things 36 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:22.599 that we really enjoy doing is is highlighting all the 37 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:26.479 different people throughout the community and some journalists one or 38 00:02:26.520 --> 00:02:31.360 two and historian. Yeah. So yeah, a lot of different 39 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:33.599 types of folks in there and all kinds of different 40 00:02:33.599 --> 00:02:39.080 life experiences. So we'll jump into it going episode by episode. 41 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:42.439 Episode two fifty two was our first one for twenty 42 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:47.599 twenty four. Mike Halterman, who served in marsk That was 43 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:53.000 a great interview. He's with the Honor Foundation, which they 44 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:56.199 run a transition program and the last I knew it 45 00:02:56.280 --> 00:02:59.520 was for special Ops veterans, but they're trying to start 46 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:02.520 to get had it going for conventional forces as well, 47 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:04.719 and it sounds like they have a really good program, 48 00:03:04.759 --> 00:03:06.879 Like I wish it was around when I got out 49 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:09.719 of the military, and so it sounds like they're doing 50 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:15.280 really good things there. Uh. Two fifty three Travis Sandford. 51 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:19.879 After after months, if not years of joking about it, 52 00:03:20.120 --> 00:03:22.479 we got a special Ops weather guy on the show 53 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:25.759 and he was really cool. Extream come true. Yeah, yeah, 54 00:03:26.039 --> 00:03:28.479 Jaxx dream realized it's kind of the unicorn that we 55 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:32.560 had to find. But he was really cool. I mean, 56 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:35.759 the dude has a bronze star for valor in Afghanistan. 57 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:37.560 I mean he was in the thick of it with 58 00:03:37.599 --> 00:03:41.360 the Marsac guys. Like that was a really like interesting, illuminating, 59 00:03:41.439 --> 00:03:42.520 fascinating Yeah. 60 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:47.919 Yeah, and it really shows you the breadth of the 61 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:50.360 types of things that you can get into that people 62 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:54.759 don't normally think of, you know, like you know, they're 63 00:03:54.759 --> 00:03:57.479 all the military jokes about POGs, you know, people other 64 00:03:57.520 --> 00:04:00.000 than grunts and when. 65 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:00.840 But but it. 66 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:04.479 Really shows you that there are a myriad of jobs 67 00:04:04.520 --> 00:04:06.280 for a myriad of interest, and a lot of them 68 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:07.719 do very interesting things. 69 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:14.599 Absolutely. Uh. Two fifty four was Louis Ruda, Uh. CIA 70 00:04:14.719 --> 00:04:18.360 officer Actually one of my favorite episodes, my favorite, one 71 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:22.759 of my favorites of the year. Super smart guy, lots 72 00:04:22.759 --> 00:04:27.279 of experience, and he's he's an armchair historian also, uh, 73 00:04:27.839 --> 00:04:31.800 reading about the Roman Empire every day. Yeah, he was great. 74 00:04:31.879 --> 00:04:35.680 I mean, there's nothing like a salty CIA officer. Yeah, 75 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:40.120 he just doesn't give a fuck really anymore. I've had 76 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:42.439 like sound bites, yeah, not even a sound bites. The 77 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:43.839 quality of the entire interview is great. 78 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:46.199 I would love to have him on again actually, because 79 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:52.360 he's just such a knowledgeable dude. Two fifty five was Kase. 80 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:57.000 He's an ATF undercover dude, Frank. Yeah, and Frank was 81 00:04:57.000 --> 00:05:01.199 back on that episode two and those were the guys 82 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:05.759 that were infiltrating a neo Nazi biker gang. And I 83 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:08.079 mean there's a lot of wild stuff in that in 84 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:11.319 that episode, but one of them is, you know, the 85 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:16.199 motorcycle gang was putting them on polygraphs to try to 86 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:18.600 figure out if they were cops or not, so they 87 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:21.920 had to like undergo training to fool the box so 88 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:24.839 that they could get into this you know, crime gang. 89 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:28.639 Go check that episode out two fifty five. That was 90 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:34.920 a really cool one. Uh fifty six Lindsey Bruce Sas. 91 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:40.000 I he was great. I'm just like struggling because I 92 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:42.120 can't believe like a year's gone by since we did 93 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:46.680 that episode. But really cool guy. I really put together, dude, 94 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:50.879 And you know talking about like the lineage of like 95 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:53.319 his father being in the military and then him going 96 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:57.240 into the military and his career and his service. I 97 00:05:57.240 --> 00:05:58.920 hope you guys will go and check that one out. 98 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:01.360 We had a number of s s As interviews this year. 99 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:05.040 I would say he probably had the best background. Lindsey Well, 100 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:07.959 I like the I like Lindsay is the one who 101 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:12.120 has a normal sort of like military family background. I 102 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:15.680 mean his background during the show. Oh oh's his music? 103 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:18.959 Yeah yeah, yeah. I was thinking about like the actual 104 00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:21.079 background of the guys. Like I noticed with most of 105 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:24.279 the SAS guys that SAS n c os like super 106 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:27.439 blue collar dudes. Yeah, they all come from like very 107 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:30.319 humble beginnings. You know. We talked to the one dude 108 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:33.040 who was poaching pheasants. Yeah, to survive. 109 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:35.279 Yeah, I can't see there being a ton of NCOs 110 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:37.920 in the sas that are like going to like eating 111 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:39.920 with like Prince Harry and stuff like that. 112 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:42.800 Yeah, the officers, but yeah, not the n c os. 113 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:49.079 I don't think so, man, But incredible guys. Two fifty seven. 114 00:06:49.240 --> 00:06:52.560 Dan Runyon he was the commander on ODA UH five 115 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:57.360 five five Triple Nickel going into Afghanistan, one of the 116 00:06:57.600 --> 00:06:59.680 either the first or the second ODA to go in 117 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:02.800 after Anistan, depending on what we're going to argue on 118 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:06.319 a given day. But that was a great episode. He 119 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:09.920 was also in the Invasion of Iraq and then I 120 00:07:09.959 --> 00:07:12.879 also this year invited Dan to UH Well I didn't 121 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:16.360 invite him, I just facilitated, but the Special Forces Association 122 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:19.560 wanted someone to speak at Ground zero at the Horse 123 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:24.040 Soldier Memorial for nine to eleven, and Dan very graciously 124 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:29.279 volunteered to come in and deliver the speech, which was 125 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:31.240 great because he's one of the original guys to go 126 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:32.240 in Afghanistan. 127 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:38.800 That worked out really well. It's pretty pretty wild. Resume 128 00:07:39.560 --> 00:07:41.360 one hundred and six sixty. 129 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:49.519 Yeah. Yeah, and now he's like an ultra marathon runner. Yeah. Yeah. 130 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:53.279 To fifty eight was Bill Flavin, a Special Forces officer. 131 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:57.600 He's actually I interviewed him for We Defy about because 132 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:00.199 he was part of the green Light Program, among the 133 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:02.480 many other things that that guy did during his career. 134 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:06.199 That was interesting. And and you know, Bill has a 135 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:09.199 mind like a steel trap like I don't. I probably 136 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:11.199 asked like one or two questions to that. Whole interview 137 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:14.600 is just like Bill going plowing through it. It was awesome. 138 00:08:14.680 --> 00:08:18.800 It's awesome though, when people are so adamant and excited 139 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:23.079 to tell their story. Two fifty nine was Eddie Chavez, Ranger, 140 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:26.240 one of the again first or second j Tech and 141 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:28.680 Ranger Regiment, depending on how we're going to argue it. 142 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:32.600 I don't think Eddie cares what who is who? But 143 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:37.559 he was really cool, really good story. And Eddie runs 144 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:42.799 a podcast on himself. I'm strugg I can't remember the 145 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:49.480 name of it offhand, but Operator Debrief. Yeah, and Eddie, 146 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:54.360 I think he focuses mostly on interviewing Ranger Regiment guys, 147 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:57.799 So I really recommend going and checking out his channel. 148 00:08:58.080 --> 00:08:58.960 I think he had. 149 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:04.200 Greg Greg Cocaron is one of his first first UH episodes. 150 00:09:04.399 --> 00:09:08.159 Yeah, go check out Eddie Chavez's channel. Interesting guy doing 151 00:09:08.279 --> 00:09:11.639 doing good stuff, having all these rangers on there. Two 152 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:17.480 sixty Jack divine legend. Yeah, CIA legend. We've been around 153 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:21.240 the block a few times. Yeah, fascinating. Uh And that 154 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:25.759 was just part one, right, I believe No, that was 155 00:09:25.799 --> 00:09:28.519 part one, Part two way later. Yeah. 156 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:31.559 Yeah, so that was part one because we couldn't I mean, 157 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:33.159 a man with a career like that, like you, you 158 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:36.360 can't even really get into the meat of it. And 159 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:40.000 you know, for for people like that, what's really fun 160 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:43.759 for me is not just their own personal history, but 161 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:47.440 their breadth and knowledge and their insight into you know, 162 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:49.519 what's right with the CIA? 163 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:50.399 What's wrong with you? Say? 164 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:54.919 Because Jack was involved in almost every UH countersurgency or 165 00:09:54.919 --> 00:10:00.559 paramilitary operation UH COVID action, I guess that the see 166 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:01.120 how he took. 167 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:03.440 Part of Yeah, we talked in that part one. I 168 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:08.360 think we talked about Chile, and I think we covered 169 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:11.759 Iran contra, and I think we may have gotten in 170 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:14.559 Afghanistan that made you can't remember. Yeah, it might might 171 00:10:14.559 --> 00:10:17.960 have been part two where we got in Afghanistan UH 172 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:24.039 to sixty one. Alejandro Villanueva ranger officer also former NFL 173 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:29.279 player and now a farmer growing I think exotic fruits 174 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:35.440 as I recall. Yeah, super nice guy. Yeah yeah, super humble. Yeah. 175 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:39.799 I mean he was uh West Point, played football on 176 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:40.639 West Point. 177 00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:45.519 And then was a Ranger and then yeah. 178 00:10:44.720 --> 00:10:48.240 And then had a pretty significant career, had a very 179 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:49.759 sergific Yeah, pro bowler. 180 00:10:49.960 --> 00:10:53.320 Yeah yeah, got out really good, you know, did the 181 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:54.480 combine right, I think? 182 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:57.000 And what he did know, he actually didn't I think 183 00:10:57.039 --> 00:10:58.559 because he got in when he was older. 184 00:10:58.559 --> 00:10:59.919 He got into the NFL and he was like two 185 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:02.399 right right right right away from Spain. 186 00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:06.039 Yeah, he he didn't play football until like he was 187 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:07.600 twenty yeah right. 188 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:09.879 Yeah, eighteen, Yeah, because they don't they don't have American 189 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:12.360 football in Europe. Yeah they have that that other thing 190 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:18.480 yeah yeah whatever football. Yeah, super cool guy. Uh To 191 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:22.960 sixty two Jay Dorlius h Third Special Forces Group dude, 192 00:11:23.399 --> 00:11:28.279 former team sergeant. He's the Green Beret Chronicles, right podcast, 193 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:31.559 Green Break. Yeah, go check his channel out. Spicy stuff, 194 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:36.679 lots of spicy content on Jay's channel. But he was 195 00:11:36.679 --> 00:11:38.200 a he was a cool guy. I hope we can 196 00:11:38.200 --> 00:11:41.200 get him back in the studio again sometimes. Jays Austen, Yeah, 197 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:45.960 super cool. Uh To sixty three was on versus the 198 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:50.080 team House, so it was me, Dave, Andy Milburn and 199 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:54.840 Jason Lyons and so on. For anyone who hasn't been 200 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:59.720 paying attention, is the associated podcast with the Teamhouse or 201 00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:04.279 our friends Andy and Jason cover mostly like more current events, 202 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:07.000 geopolitical stuff, things that are going on in the news 203 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:09.799 that week. We also have Mick Malroy now, who's like 204 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:15.279 a regular guest hitor. Yeah, definitely, uh all marines. I 205 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:17.000 didn't do that on purpose, but. 206 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:20.799 The best thing is is like we don't even have 207 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:23.000 to pay him. We just give him crayons. Yeah yeah, 208 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:24.519 and their little maintenance. 209 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:29.559 Yeah. So go subscribe to the eyes On YouTube channel 210 00:12:29.600 --> 00:12:30.919 if you haven't already. 211 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:32.840 And if you are listening the eyes On if you're 212 00:12:32.840 --> 00:12:35.399 an audio listener, the eyes On shows come on the 213 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:38.320 Teamhouse feed still, so you don't have to do anything, 214 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:40.039 just keep your eye out. 215 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:43.679 So two sixty four is this is the interview. I 216 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:47.480 think I laughed the most in Phil Campion. That guy 217 00:12:47.679 --> 00:12:53.159 is a funny dude. Yeah yeah, big Phil, And I 218 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:55.919 mean I kind of go a little ways back with Phil. 219 00:12:56.080 --> 00:13:00.759 We we used to work together and I met him 220 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:09.679 in person in or Bill in like twenty fourteen feels like, so, 221 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:12.240 what did you do with what'd you do? He was 222 00:13:12.279 --> 00:13:15.120 doing a documentary for like Channel four or something like that, 223 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:20.240 and I was over there reporting. Phil has a podcast too. Yes, 224 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:23.559 he does Forces shit. I don't know. I think it's 225 00:13:23.559 --> 00:13:27.679 called Forces. He interviews a lot of sas guys in 226 00:13:27.720 --> 00:13:32.879 British Peas and etc. I'm pretty sure it's like Forces 227 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:37.200 or Forces Radio. But I'm sure if you guys type 228 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:40.600 in Force radio, Force Radio, Force Radio, yeah you find 229 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:43.759 Philip on there. I definitely recommend checking him out. Phil 230 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:48.279 has an awesome sense of humor, if nothing else. Two 231 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:54.919 sixty five Dale Bendler, senior CIA officer, served in El Salvador. 232 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:59.840 Was here in New York when nine to eleven happened. 233 00:14:00.840 --> 00:14:04.519 I'm involved in all kinds of interesting stuff. It was 234 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:07.679 definitely one of the more unique interviews. I think. I 235 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:10.559 believe he finished his career as chief of station in Paris, 236 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:14.200 which is our chief of station for France, which is 237 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:15.840 like very rare at that time for a guy to 238 00:14:15.840 --> 00:14:17.919 go from like uh he went. He was a force 239 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:24.279 recon guy, then ground branch, and then traditional intelligence. Yeah, 240 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:26.960 so go check that interview out. That's a cool one. 241 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:33.279 To sixty six Jim Shorten Nack V Sag. Yeah, that's 242 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:36.279 one of the smartest guys we've interviewed. I think it's 243 00:14:36.519 --> 00:14:39.000 I think he might be like a MENSA member or something. 244 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:46.279 Just a fascinating guy, fascinating background and interesting service, you know. Yeah, 245 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:49.320 Mac V. Sag and also as a PJ. And and 246 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:52.360 he was also going back to layoffs looking for m 247 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:56.200 I as like maybe ten years ago, not that long ago. 248 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:00.960 That was a that was a really fun interview. And 249 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:05.200 I think and a doctor radiologist. Yeah, that's right, and 250 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:09.120 he goes media righte hunting. I mean, just like he's 251 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:12.200 like one of those renaissance men. And I think I 252 00:15:12.240 --> 00:15:14.919 can't remember if he got recommended to me by John 253 00:15:14.960 --> 00:15:21.120 Mayer or Bud, but both John Mayer and Bud are 254 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:25.399 doing their podcasts too. They're out there. Bud does the 255 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:30.639 reconcast with a lot of Vietnam vents. Definitely if you're 256 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:37.080 interested in that, definitely worth your time. Okay. To sixty 257 00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:41.840 seven Herschel Davis. That was a pretty awesome one too. 258 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:47.759 Wild Yeah. Herschel is larger than life. So he was 259 00:15:47.799 --> 00:15:52.480 a Navy Seal Master chief service in Vietnam and then 260 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:55.399 I don't think they forced he was they forced him 261 00:15:55.440 --> 00:15:58.320 to retire in like ninety four ish. You know that 262 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:00.320 guy would still be a seal today if they have 263 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:04.480 let him. Yeah, that was a really cool, really unique interview. 264 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:08.840 So check him out. To sixty eight. This guy was 265 00:16:08.840 --> 00:16:14.639 great too, Melvin Melvin Down's SAS guy, another like fascinating background. 266 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:19.559 I believe his father was from Jamaica, his mother from 267 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:24.120 the UK. He goes in to where did he start 268 00:16:24.120 --> 00:16:27.279 off in the conventional forces for him now? And then 269 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:31.279 then he goes to SAS selection and oh I think 270 00:16:31.279 --> 00:16:34.039 he was infant I think he was infantry because yeah 271 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:38.360 I remember, yeah, no neither can I and some funny 272 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:40.480 stories about like you know, being a black dude in 273 00:16:40.519 --> 00:16:45.840 Northern Ireland. Uh and uh yeah. I mean he was 274 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:49.039 a super cool guy, super interesting guy, sharing the history 275 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:52.399 of his squadron and everything. It was really cool and 276 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:56.039 Melvin had he might be on YouTube. I see him 277 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:58.440 on Instagram, blaws. Yeah, so you guys should go look 278 00:16:58.480 --> 00:17:05.440 for him there. Uh. Two sixty nine Jeff Man, Yeah, fantastic, 279 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:07.519 kind of outside our normal track. 280 00:17:09.319 --> 00:17:13.240 I had an opportunity to meet Jeff at I think 281 00:17:13.240 --> 00:17:18.160 it was Schmookhan one of the one of the cybersecurity. 282 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:20.480 Conventions. 283 00:17:20.519 --> 00:17:25.240 But uh yeah, n s a red team and very 284 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:26.440 very interesting stuff. 285 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:28.920 Yeah. I was really happy to see like that episode 286 00:17:28.960 --> 00:17:32.079 got like a lot of views. Yeah, which I mean 287 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:34.440 he deserves it, but yeah, one hundred and twenty six. 288 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:37.160 Because it's a little bit offbeat for us, you always 289 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:39.920 like wonder, like are people going to care they watch this, 290 00:17:40.039 --> 00:17:42.279 and yeah, a lot of people tuned in and it 291 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:46.559 was it was really cool, really interesting. Two seventy John A. 292 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:49.960 Mendez who is the chief of the skies at CIA. Yeah. 293 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:54.480 John was great, fascinating interview. Yeah, yeah, she's she's super cool. 294 00:17:54.960 --> 00:18:00.160 Yeah, very interesting to hear about the process of the 295 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:06.240 development of the disguise, you know, capabilities and how you know, 296 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:09.400 how they may have worked with Hollywood and how long 297 00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:12.480 it took them to develop to get it right fully 298 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:14.799 articulated faces and things like that. 299 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:21.720 I think her book is in True Self that came out, 300 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:26.599 so go check her out. Two seventy one. Ben McKelvey. 301 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:29.519 He's the journalist that wrote a book about the Australian 302 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:34.519 sas And that was an interesting episode and it was 303 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:38.359 an interesting book to say the least. And a little 304 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:41.480 bit of backstory on that one. Afterwards, I got like 305 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:46.039 a ten page manifesto written by some AUSC SAS guy 306 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:50.319 Like basically, this guy was like outraged and I read 307 00:18:50.359 --> 00:18:53.400 through the whole thing, but he didn't address the war 308 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:56.559 crimes at all. It was everything else. It was like, 309 00:18:56.640 --> 00:18:59.720 you know, this guy has poor dental hygiene, he has 310 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:02.640 deiodor issues, you know, all this other stuff like you know, 311 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:04.599 that's not really uh, that's not really what we were 312 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:08.759 talking about there. Uh, but that was, uh, that was interesting. 313 00:19:09.519 --> 00:19:12.279 I definitely recommend you guys go and read his book. 314 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:17.039 Yeah, and you know those are like obviously from a 315 00:19:17.039 --> 00:19:20.559 personal standpoint, I have some disagreements with him on some 316 00:19:20.680 --> 00:19:27.240 of his like ideas, And it's always interesting two you know, 317 00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:29.920 like what constitutes a war crime and and and and 318 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:33.200 also like talking about the challenges of operating in those 319 00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:38.200 environments and what separate what separates it all, and and 320 00:19:38.240 --> 00:19:40.880 it's always good. It's like when we had the gentleman 321 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:44.400 who you know, was the attorney for at GITMO. Yeah, 322 00:19:44.440 --> 00:19:48.079 you know, it's always good to get the other side. 323 00:19:47.960 --> 00:19:52.599 And and their views on things. Yeah. No, I mean 324 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:55.000 for sure, and I mean that that stuff is still 325 00:19:55.079 --> 00:19:57.759 working its way through the Australian court system. Yeah too 326 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:03.119 to say. Seventy two Rick Kaiser, who's a Seal a 327 00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:06.599 dev group guy, another dude like he would probably be 328 00:20:06.680 --> 00:20:09.839 a Seal forever if they would have let him. Super 329 00:20:09.880 --> 00:20:14.200 interesting guy. I think does he have a book out 330 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:22.279 on leadership if I recall correctly, Yeah, frog Men Stories 331 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:27.000 Leadership Lessons. So go check out that episode with Rick. 332 00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:29.400 It's very like if you want to hear about like 333 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:31.799 the early days of Seal Team six and stuff, and 334 00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:34.359 in even the latter part, I mean, it's an interesting interview. 335 00:20:35.720 --> 00:20:39.000 I ought to Rick for that episode because his father 336 00:20:39.079 --> 00:20:43.039 passed away like literally like hours before I think Bill 337 00:20:43.079 --> 00:20:43.519 showed up. 338 00:20:43.720 --> 00:20:46.119 Yeah, I think his dad was in the hospital. Yeah, 339 00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:49.200 and his father passed away like that night. Yeah. I 340 00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:52.359 felt bad about that, but yes, we do appreciate you know, 341 00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:56.400 Rick going the extra mile there, man, I'm sorry to 342 00:20:56.400 --> 00:20:59.799 hear about your dad. Two seventy three. 343 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:05.240 Another episode that is like Outside Storm but but fantastic. 344 00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:09.680 Brian Baker, he's a B one B wizzo. 345 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:10.440 Uh. 346 00:21:10.519 --> 00:21:15.279 I think it's a weapon systems officer. So I met 347 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:17.680 him at uh where did I meet? We met him? 348 00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:22.319 Christmas last year. Yeah, he's uh, he's over in the 349 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:24.880 he belongs to the same American legion I do, I think, 350 00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:28.839 And uh, that was an interesting story. He was flying, 351 00:21:29.119 --> 00:21:34.640 uh bomber missions against ISIS doing bomber runs in Syria 352 00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:37.240 like that was a Yeah, again, like an interesting perspective 353 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:40.279 I never would have heard before. Yeah, they were flying 354 00:21:40.279 --> 00:21:42.119 at him like the UAE or something. Yeah. 355 00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:43.920 The one thing that stood out with there was like 356 00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:45.839 when they thought like a couple of megs or soot 357 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:49.759 thirty five's were after that. Yeah, like Russian jets and uh, 358 00:21:50.039 --> 00:21:53.160 you know sound they're pretty uh pretty crazy, pretty airy. 359 00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:55.519 Yeah, there's some close calls and they were dropping like 360 00:21:55.680 --> 00:21:58.920 beyond danger close because it was like the Kurds were 361 00:21:58.920 --> 00:22:01.119 going to get like over run and like they're gonna 362 00:22:01.119 --> 00:22:02.920 be dead either way at this point, you know, so 363 00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:09.359 they were dropping so close. Yeah, for a totally different perspective. Yeah. 364 00:22:09.359 --> 00:22:13.480 Two seventy three with Brian Baker. Two seventy four was 365 00:22:13.640 --> 00:22:18.519 Eric valez Uh service in the FBI. He ran I 366 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:22.680 believe it was called the Directorate of Intelligence, which like 367 00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:25.960 coordinates the training and stuff like that for for the FBI, 368 00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:33.960 But he also was a normal FBI special agent and uh, 369 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:36.160 I mean yeah, I remember one of his stories was 370 00:22:36.160 --> 00:22:40.599 about a little girl getting kidnapped, which was pretty horrible. Yeah. 371 00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:44.240 Another uh, but there's some some entertaining stories where after 372 00:22:44.279 --> 00:22:47.519 the FBI, he became the chief of security for Disney 373 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:52.559 and it's that that was a twenty four to seven job. Yeah, literally, 374 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:55.960 because there's Disney's in like America, France, and there's one 375 00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:58.759 in Japan, I think, I think so yeah yeah, so 376 00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:01.400 just as one's close down, the other one is opening. 377 00:23:02.599 --> 00:23:04.759 So yeah, go check out that one with Eric Vales. 378 00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:10.920 He's cool. Two seventy five Dante Paradiso, who I swear 379 00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:12.680 to god he was giving me a fake now, yeah, 380 00:23:12.680 --> 00:23:16.240 I thought Dante's Paradise, Right, I'm like, dude, do I 381 00:23:16.279 --> 00:23:18.799 really have to call you this? Like, what what's I mean? 382 00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:21.920 It's better than Dante's Inferno, but you know that's but no, 383 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:25.920 that's it. Apparently that's his legal name. So Dante was 384 00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:31.720 a Department of State Foreign Service officer. Really good guy. Uh. 385 00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:34.680 He wrote the book We Have up Here the Embassy 386 00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:40.519 and he was present for like some of the bombings 387 00:23:40.519 --> 00:23:43.880 in Kenya and Tanzania in the late nineteen. 388 00:23:43.640 --> 00:23:47.640 Nineties, almost got blown up there. I think he might 389 00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:51.039 have been around for one of the embassy evacuations like Liberia, yes, 390 00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:54.039 and uh, and then we talked a lot he had 391 00:23:54.079 --> 00:23:54.440 to do. 392 00:23:54.480 --> 00:23:58.240 With the Doha courts, right, And you know, this is 393 00:23:58.279 --> 00:24:04.079 an episode, honestly that I am surprised does not have 394 00:24:04.119 --> 00:24:09.640 more views because it is such a fascinating insider's view 395 00:24:09.920 --> 00:24:12.039 on the Doha Accords. 396 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:12.839 And really how. 397 00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:17.440 You know, it's not It's really not what a lot 398 00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:20.599 of people think it is. And I really wish more 399 00:24:20.599 --> 00:24:24.680 people would, would you know, watch that episode and see 400 00:24:24.720 --> 00:24:27.640 what was actually going on inside those negotiations. 401 00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:30.640