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Speaker 1: Special Operations, Covert Ops, Espionage, The Team House with your
Speaker 1: host Jack Murphy and David Park. Hey, folks, this is
Speaker 1: going to be our year in review pre recorded episode,
Speaker 1: so you guys are seeing this a few weeks after
Speaker 1: we recorded it, and we just use it. We do
Speaker 1: one of these year in reviews every year, and basically
Speaker 1: just to highlight all the different guests we had over
Speaker 1: the year and maybe bring some attention to some episodes
Speaker 1: you may have missed or folks who are just sort
Speaker 1: of finding the podcast this year and twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: can watch this and maybe get a little idea of
Speaker 1: what they might be interested in. But overall, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you guys thought, but I was
Speaker 1: not to pat ourselves on the back, But like I thought,
Speaker 1: I was very happy with all the guests we had
Speaker 1: on this year. I thought, like, it's a really I mean,
Speaker 1: how many episodes was it? Like? Sixty eight sixty six
Speaker 1: and a good sixty seven and a good mix of
Speaker 1: foreign Special ops guys, CIA, Special Forces Rangers, MARSK Delta,
Speaker 1: some other spooky characters you know, New Zealand sas in,
Speaker 1: some federal law enforcement DA, FBI, ATF all in there
Speaker 1: this year. So it was a pretty good variety, I thought, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. And that's you know, one of the things
Speaker 1: that we really enjoy doing is is highlighting all the
Speaker 1: different people throughout the community and some journalists one or
Speaker 1: two and historian. Yeah. So yeah, a lot of different
Speaker 1: types of folks in there and all kinds of different
Speaker 1: life experiences. So we'll jump into it going episode by episode.
Speaker 1: Episode two fifty two was our first one for twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four. Mike Halterman, who served in marsk That was
Speaker 1: a great interview. He's with the Honor Foundation, which they
Speaker 1: run a transition program and the last I knew it
Speaker 1: was for special Ops veterans, but they're trying to start
Speaker 1: to get had it going for conventional forces as well,
Speaker 1: and it sounds like they have a really good program,
Speaker 1: Like I wish it was around when I got out
Speaker 1: of the military, and so it sounds like they're doing
Speaker 1: really good things there. Uh. Two fifty three Travis Sandford.
Speaker 1: After after months, if not years of joking about it,
Speaker 1: we got a special Ops weather guy on the show
Speaker 1: and he was really cool. Extream come true. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Jaxx dream realized it's kind of the unicorn that we
Speaker 1: had to find. But he was really cool. I mean,
Speaker 1: the dude has a bronze star for valor in Afghanistan.
Speaker 1: I mean he was in the thick of it with
Speaker 1: the Marsac guys. Like that was a really like interesting, illuminating,
Speaker 1: fascinating Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it really shows you the breadth of the
Speaker 2: types of things that you can get into that people
Speaker 2: don't normally think of, you know, like you know, they're
Speaker 2: all the military jokes about POGs, you know, people other
Speaker 2: than grunts and when.
Speaker 1: But but it.
Speaker 2: Really shows you that there are a myriad of jobs
Speaker 2: for a myriad of interest, and a lot of them
Speaker 2: do very interesting things.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Uh. Two fifty four was Louis Ruda, Uh. CIA
Speaker 1: officer Actually one of my favorite episodes, my favorite, one
Speaker 1: of my favorites of the year. Super smart guy, lots
Speaker 1: of experience, and he's he's an armchair historian also, uh,
Speaker 1: reading about the Roman Empire every day. Yeah, he was great.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's nothing like a salty CIA officer. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he just doesn't give a fuck really anymore. I've had
Speaker 3: like sound bites, yeah, not even a sound bites. The
Speaker 3: quality of the entire interview is great.
Speaker 1: I would love to have him on again actually, because
Speaker 1: he's just such a knowledgeable dude. Two fifty five was Kase.
Speaker 1: He's an ATF undercover dude, Frank. Yeah, and Frank was
Speaker 1: back on that episode two and those were the guys
Speaker 1: that were infiltrating a neo Nazi biker gang. And I
Speaker 1: mean there's a lot of wild stuff in that in
Speaker 1: that episode, but one of them is, you know, the
Speaker 1: motorcycle gang was putting them on polygraphs to try to
Speaker 1: figure out if they were cops or not, so they
Speaker 1: had to like undergo training to fool the box so
Speaker 1: that they could get into this you know, crime gang.
Speaker 1: Go check that episode out two fifty five. That was
Speaker 1: a really cool one. Uh fifty six Lindsey Bruce Sas.
Speaker 1: I he was great. I'm just like struggling because I
Speaker 1: can't believe like a year's gone by since we did
Speaker 1: that episode. But really cool guy. I really put together, dude,
Speaker 1: And you know talking about like the lineage of like
Speaker 1: his father being in the military and then him going
Speaker 1: into the military and his career and his service. I
Speaker 1: hope you guys will go and check that one out.
Speaker 1: We had a number of s s As interviews this year.
Speaker 1: I would say he probably had the best background. Lindsey Well,
Speaker 1: I like the I like Lindsay is the one who
Speaker 1: has a normal sort of like military family background. I
Speaker 1: mean his background during the show. Oh oh's his music?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. I was thinking about like the actual
Speaker 1: background of the guys. Like I noticed with most of
Speaker 1: the SAS guys that SAS n c os like super
Speaker 1: blue collar dudes. Yeah, they all come from like very
Speaker 1: humble beginnings. You know. We talked to the one dude
Speaker 1: who was poaching pheasants. Yeah, to survive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't see there being a ton of NCOs
Speaker 3: in the sas that are like going to like eating
Speaker 3: with like Prince Harry and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the officers, but yeah, not the n c os.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, man, But incredible guys. Two fifty seven.
Speaker 1: Dan Runyon he was the commander on ODA UH five
Speaker 1: five five Triple Nickel going into Afghanistan, one of the
Speaker 1: either the first or the second ODA to go in
Speaker 1: after Anistan, depending on what we're going to argue on
Speaker 1: a given day. But that was a great episode. He
Speaker 1: was also in the Invasion of Iraq and then I
Speaker 1: also this year invited Dan to UH Well I didn't
Speaker 1: invite him, I just facilitated, but the Special Forces Association
Speaker 1: wanted someone to speak at Ground zero at the Horse
Speaker 1: Soldier Memorial for nine to eleven, and Dan very graciously
Speaker 1: volunteered to come in and deliver the speech, which was
Speaker 1: great because he's one of the original guys to go
Speaker 1: in Afghanistan.
Speaker 3: That worked out really well. It's pretty pretty wild. Resume
Speaker 3: one hundred and six sixty.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and now he's like an ultra marathon runner. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: To fifty eight was Bill Flavin, a Special Forces officer.
Speaker 1: He's actually I interviewed him for We Defy about because
Speaker 1: he was part of the green Light Program, among the
Speaker 1: many other things that that guy did during his career.
Speaker 1: That was interesting. And and you know, Bill has a
Speaker 1: mind like a steel trap like I don't. I probably
Speaker 1: asked like one or two questions to that. Whole interview
Speaker 1: is just like Bill going plowing through it. It was awesome.
Speaker 1: It's awesome though, when people are so adamant and excited
Speaker 1: to tell their story. Two fifty nine was Eddie Chavez, Ranger,
Speaker 1: one of the again first or second j Tech and
Speaker 1: Ranger Regiment, depending on how we're going to argue it.
Speaker 1: I don't think Eddie cares what who is who? But
Speaker 1: he was really cool, really good story. And Eddie runs
Speaker 1: a podcast on himself. I'm strugg I can't remember the
Speaker 1: name of it offhand, but Operator Debrief. Yeah, and Eddie,
Speaker 1: I think he focuses mostly on interviewing Ranger Regiment guys,
Speaker 1: So I really recommend going and checking out his channel.
Speaker 1: I think he had.
Speaker 3: Greg Greg Cocaron is one of his first first UH episodes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go check out Eddie Chavez's channel. Interesting guy doing
Speaker 1: doing good stuff, having all these rangers on there. Two
Speaker 1: sixty Jack divine legend. Yeah, CIA legend. We've been around
Speaker 1: the block a few times. Yeah, fascinating. Uh And that
Speaker 1: was just part one, right, I believe No, that was
Speaker 1: part one, Part two way later. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was part one because we couldn't I mean,
Speaker 2: a man with a career like that, like you, you
Speaker 2: can't even really get into the meat of it. And
Speaker 2: you know, for for people like that, what's really fun
Speaker 2: for me is not just their own personal history, but
Speaker 2: their breadth and knowledge and their insight into you know,
Speaker 2: what's right with the CIA?
Speaker 1: What's wrong with you? Say?
Speaker 2: Because Jack was involved in almost every UH countersurgency or
Speaker 2: paramilitary operation UH COVID action, I guess that the see
Speaker 2: how he took.
Speaker 1: Part of Yeah, we talked in that part one. I
Speaker 1: think we talked about Chile, and I think we covered
Speaker 1: Iran contra, and I think we may have gotten in
Speaker 1: Afghanistan that made you can't remember. Yeah, it might might
Speaker 1: have been part two where we got in Afghanistan UH
Speaker 1: to sixty one. Alejandro Villanueva ranger officer also former NFL
Speaker 1: player and now a farmer growing I think exotic fruits
Speaker 1: as I recall. Yeah, super nice guy. Yeah yeah, super humble. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean he was uh West Point, played football on
Speaker 2: West Point.
Speaker 1: And then was a Ranger and then yeah.
Speaker 3: And then had a pretty significant career, had a very
Speaker 3: sergific Yeah, pro bowler.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, got out really good, you know, did the
Speaker 2: combine right, I think?
Speaker 3: And what he did know, he actually didn't I think
Speaker 3: because he got in when he was older.
Speaker 1: He got into the NFL and he was like two
Speaker 1: right right right right away from Spain.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he he didn't play football until like he was
Speaker 3: twenty yeah right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, eighteen, Yeah, because they don't they don't have American
Speaker 1: football in Europe. Yeah they have that that other thing
Speaker 1: yeah yeah whatever football. Yeah, super cool guy. Uh To
Speaker 1: sixty two Jay Dorlius h Third Special Forces Group dude,
Speaker 1: former team sergeant. He's the Green Beret Chronicles, right podcast,
Speaker 1: Green Break. Yeah, go check his channel out. Spicy stuff,
Speaker 1: lots of spicy content on Jay's channel. But he was
Speaker 1: a he was a cool guy. I hope we can
Speaker 1: get him back in the studio again sometimes. Jays Austen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: super cool. Uh To sixty three was on versus the
Speaker 1: team House, so it was me, Dave, Andy Milburn and
Speaker 1: Jason Lyons and so on. For anyone who hasn't been
Speaker 1: paying attention, is the associated podcast with the Teamhouse or
Speaker 1: our friends Andy and Jason cover mostly like more current events,
Speaker 1: geopolitical stuff, things that are going on in the news
Speaker 1: that week. We also have Mick Malroy now, who's like
Speaker 1: a regular guest hitor. Yeah, definitely, uh all marines. I
Speaker 1: didn't do that on purpose, but.
Speaker 2: The best thing is is like we don't even have
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Speaker 1: So two sixty four is this is the interview. I
Speaker 1: think I laughed the most in Phil Campion. That guy
Speaker 1: is a funny dude. Yeah yeah, big Phil, And I
Speaker 1: mean I kind of go a little ways back with Phil.
Speaker 1: We we used to work together and I met him
Speaker 1: in person in or Bill in like twenty fourteen feels like, so,
Speaker 1: what did you do with what'd you do? He was
Speaker 1: doing a documentary for like Channel four or something like that,
Speaker 1: and I was over there reporting. Phil has a podcast too. Yes,
Speaker 1: he does Forces shit. I don't know. I think it's
Speaker 1: called Forces. He interviews a lot of sas guys in
Speaker 1: British Peas and etc. I'm pretty sure it's like Forces
Speaker 1: or Forces Radio. But I'm sure if you guys type
Speaker 1: in Force radio, Force Radio, Force Radio, yeah you find
Speaker 1: Philip on there. I definitely recommend checking him out. Phil
Speaker 1: has an awesome sense of humor, if nothing else. Two
Speaker 1: sixty five Dale Bendler, senior CIA officer, served in El Salvador.
Speaker 1: Was here in New York when nine to eleven happened.
Speaker 1: I'm involved in all kinds of interesting stuff. It was
Speaker 1: definitely one of the more unique interviews. I think. I
Speaker 1: believe he finished his career as chief of station in Paris,
Speaker 1: which is our chief of station for France, which is
Speaker 1: like very rare at that time for a guy to
Speaker 1: go from like uh he went. He was a force
Speaker 1: recon guy, then ground branch, and then traditional intelligence. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so go check that interview out. That's a cool one.
Speaker 1: To sixty six Jim Shorten Nack V Sag. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: one of the smartest guys we've interviewed. I think it's
Speaker 1: I think he might be like a MENSA member or something.
Speaker 1: Just a fascinating guy, fascinating background and interesting service, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Mac V. Sag and also as a PJ. And and
Speaker 1: he was also going back to layoffs looking for m
Speaker 1: I as like maybe ten years ago, not that long ago.
Speaker 1: That was a that was a really fun interview. And
Speaker 1: I think and a doctor radiologist. Yeah, that's right, and
Speaker 1: he goes media righte hunting. I mean, just like he's
Speaker 1: like one of those renaissance men. And I think I
Speaker 1: can't remember if he got recommended to me by John
Speaker 1: Mayer or Bud, but both John Mayer and Bud are
Speaker 1: doing their podcasts too. They're out there. Bud does the
Speaker 1: reconcast with a lot of Vietnam vents. Definitely if you're
Speaker 1: interested in that, definitely worth your time. Okay. To sixty
Speaker 1: seven Herschel Davis. That was a pretty awesome one too.
Speaker 1: Wild Yeah. Herschel is larger than life. So he was
Speaker 1: a Navy Seal Master chief service in Vietnam and then
Speaker 1: I don't think they forced he was they forced him
Speaker 1: to retire in like ninety four ish. You know that
Speaker 1: guy would still be a seal today if they have
Speaker 1: let him. Yeah, that was a really cool, really unique interview.
Speaker 1: So check him out. To sixty eight. This guy was
Speaker 1: great too, Melvin Melvin Down's SAS guy, another like fascinating background.
Speaker 1: I believe his father was from Jamaica, his mother from
Speaker 1: the UK. He goes in to where did he start
Speaker 1: off in the conventional forces for him now? And then
Speaker 1: then he goes to SAS selection and oh I think
Speaker 1: he was infant I think he was infantry because yeah
Speaker 1: I remember, yeah, no neither can I and some funny
Speaker 1: stories about like you know, being a black dude in
Speaker 1: Northern Ireland. Uh and uh yeah. I mean he was
Speaker 1: a super cool guy, super interesting guy, sharing the history
Speaker 1: of his squadron and everything. It was really cool and
Speaker 1: Melvin had he might be on YouTube. I see him
Speaker 1: on Instagram, blaws. Yeah, so you guys should go look
Speaker 1: for him there. Uh. Two sixty nine Jeff Man, Yeah, fantastic,
Speaker 1: kind of outside our normal track.
Speaker 2: I had an opportunity to meet Jeff at I think
Speaker 2: it was Schmookhan one of the one of the cybersecurity.
Speaker 1: Conventions.
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, n s a red team and very
Speaker 2: very interesting stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was really happy to see like that episode
Speaker 1: got like a lot of views. Yeah, which I mean
Speaker 1: he deserves it, but yeah, one hundred and twenty six.
Speaker 1: Because it's a little bit offbeat for us, you always
Speaker 1: like wonder, like are people going to care they watch this,
Speaker 1: and yeah, a lot of people tuned in and it
Speaker 1: was it was really cool, really interesting. Two seventy John A.
Speaker 1: Mendez who is the chief of the skies at CIA. Yeah.
Speaker 1: John was great, fascinating interview. Yeah, yeah, she's she's super cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very interesting to hear about the process of the
Speaker 2: development of the disguise, you know, capabilities and how you know,
Speaker 2: how they may have worked with Hollywood and how long
Speaker 2: it took them to develop to get it right fully
Speaker 2: articulated faces and things like that.
Speaker 1: I think her book is in True Self that came out,
Speaker 1: so go check her out. Two seventy one. Ben McKelvey.
Speaker 1: He's the journalist that wrote a book about the Australian
Speaker 1: sas And that was an interesting episode and it was
Speaker 1: an interesting book to say the least. And a little
Speaker 1: bit of backstory on that one. Afterwards, I got like
Speaker 1: a ten page manifesto written by some AUSC SAS guy
Speaker 1: Like basically, this guy was like outraged and I read
Speaker 1: through the whole thing, but he didn't address the war
Speaker 1: crimes at all. It was everything else. It was like,
Speaker 1: you know, this guy has poor dental hygiene, he has
Speaker 1: deiodor issues, you know, all this other stuff like you know,
Speaker 1: that's not really uh, that's not really what we were
Speaker 1: talking about there. Uh, but that was, uh, that was interesting.
Speaker 1: I definitely recommend you guys go and read his book.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know those are like obviously from a
Speaker 2: personal standpoint, I have some disagreements with him on some
Speaker 2: of his like ideas, And it's always interesting two you know,
Speaker 2: like what constitutes a war crime and and and and
Speaker 2: also like talking about the challenges of operating in those
Speaker 2: environments and what separate what separates it all, and and
Speaker 2: it's always good. It's like when we had the gentleman
Speaker 2: who you know, was the attorney for at GITMO. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, it's always good to get the other side.
Speaker 1: And and their views on things. Yeah. No, I mean
Speaker 1: for sure, and I mean that that stuff is still
Speaker 1: working its way through the Australian court system. Yeah too
Speaker 1: to say. Seventy two Rick Kaiser, who's a Seal a
Speaker 1: dev group guy, another dude like he would probably be
Speaker 1: a Seal forever if they would have let him. Super
Speaker 1: interesting guy. I think does he have a book out
Speaker 1: on leadership if I recall correctly, Yeah, frog Men Stories
Speaker 1: Leadership Lessons. So go check out that episode with Rick.
Speaker 1: It's very like if you want to hear about like
Speaker 1: the early days of Seal Team six and stuff, and
Speaker 1: in even the latter part, I mean, it's an interesting interview.
Speaker 3: I ought to Rick for that episode because his father
Speaker 3: passed away like literally like hours before I think Bill
Speaker 3: showed up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think his dad was in the hospital. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and his father passed away like that night. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: felt bad about that, but yes, we do appreciate you know,
Speaker 1: Rick going the extra mile there, man, I'm sorry to
Speaker 1: hear about your dad. Two seventy three.
Speaker 2: Another episode that is like Outside Storm but but fantastic.
Speaker 1: Brian Baker, he's a B one B wizzo.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: I think it's a weapon systems officer. So I met
Speaker 1: him at uh where did I meet? We met him?
Speaker 1: Christmas last year. Yeah, he's uh, he's over in the
Speaker 1: he belongs to the same American legion I do, I think,
Speaker 1: And uh, that was an interesting story. He was flying,
Speaker 1: uh bomber missions against ISIS doing bomber runs in Syria
Speaker 1: like that was a Yeah, again, like an interesting perspective
Speaker 1: I never would have heard before. Yeah, they were flying
Speaker 1: at him like the UAE or something. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The one thing that stood out with there was like
Speaker 3: when they thought like a couple of megs or soot
Speaker 3: thirty five's were after that. Yeah, like Russian jets and uh,
Speaker 3: you know sound they're pretty uh pretty crazy, pretty airy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some close calls and they were dropping like
Speaker 1: beyond danger close because it was like the Kurds were
Speaker 1: going to get like over run and like they're gonna
Speaker 1: be dead either way at this point, you know, so
Speaker 1: they were dropping so close. Yeah, for a totally different perspective. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Two seventy three with Brian Baker. Two seventy four was
Speaker 1: Eric valez Uh service in the FBI. He ran I
Speaker 1: believe it was called the Directorate of Intelligence, which like
Speaker 1: coordinates the training and stuff like that for for the FBI,
Speaker 1: But he also was a normal FBI special agent and uh,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I remember one of his stories was
Speaker 1: about a little girl getting kidnapped, which was pretty horrible. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Another uh, but there's some some entertaining stories where after
Speaker 1: the FBI, he became the chief of security for Disney
Speaker 1: and it's that that was a twenty four to seven job. Yeah, literally,
Speaker 1: because there's Disney's in like America, France, and there's one
Speaker 1: in Japan, I think, I think so yeah yeah, so
Speaker 1: just as one's close down, the other one is opening.
Speaker 1: So yeah, go check out that one with Eric Vales.
Speaker 1: He's cool. Two seventy five Dante Paradiso, who I swear
Speaker 1: to god he was giving me a fake now, yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought Dante's Paradise, Right, I'm like, dude, do I
Speaker 1: really have to call you this? Like, what what's I mean?
Speaker 1: It's better than Dante's Inferno, but you know that's but no,
Speaker 1: that's it. Apparently that's his legal name. So Dante was
Speaker 1: a Department of State Foreign Service officer. Really good guy. Uh.
Speaker 4: He wrote the book We Have up Here the Embassy
Speaker 4: and he was present for like some of the bombings
Speaker 4: in Kenya and Tanzania in the late nineteen.
Speaker 1: Nineties, almost got blown up there. I think he might
Speaker 1: have been around for one of the embassy evacuations like Liberia, yes,
Speaker 1: and uh, and then we talked a lot he had
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 2: With the Doha courts, right, And you know, this is
Speaker 2: an episode, honestly that I am surprised does not have
Speaker 2: more views because it is such a fascinating insider's view
Speaker 2: on the Doha Accords.
Speaker 1: And really how.
Speaker 2: You know, it's not It's really not what a lot
Speaker 2: of people think it is. And I really wish more
Speaker 2: people would, would you know, watch that episode and see
Speaker 2: what was actually going on inside those negotiations.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I mean it definitely gives you like a
Speaker 1: perspective that you you know, I think I told him
Speaker 1: at the time, like, you're not going to get it
Speaker 1: from like the soldiers necessarily unless there were like jags
Speaker 1: or something that we're assigned to. That two seventy six
Speaker 1: was our our our self censored video with Adam Gamal
Speaker 1: where he's sitting right here and he has a big
Speaker 1: black box over the top half of his body. That
Speaker 1: was a really cool interview though he was he was great. Yeah, well, uh,
Speaker 1: definitely another colorful character immigrant from Egypt and then served
Speaker 1: in you know, Army Special Operations doing all kinds of
Speaker 1: interesting stuff in the Middle East and in Africa. That
Speaker 1: was that was definitely one of our better episodes I
Speaker 1: think over the last year. He's got a book to
Speaker 1: the Unit. The Unit. Yep, yeah, it's it's good to
Speaker 1: go check it out. To seventy seven was when we
Speaker 1: had Jack Divine back on for the second time. If
Speaker 1: we didn't talk about it in the first interview, we
Speaker 1: for sure in the second one. Talked about the COVID
Speaker 1: action program in Afghanistan and we talked I know, we
Speaker 1: talked about Russia too. Yeah, so here's a little interesting
Speaker 1: uh fubar moment for us. As I was going through
Speaker 1: all of this, I noticed that we have two episodes
Speaker 1: labeled to seventy seven. I'm totally serious, and it's it's
Speaker 1: my fault. The reason why that happened was because we
Speaker 1: had one episode that I did pre recorded and we uploaded,
Speaker 1: and so it's a little bit out of thet of
Speaker 1: the normal sequence of events and that's why it got
Speaker 1: It's Mike Adams. Yeah, so yeah, talk about that for
Speaker 1: a moment. The other episode two seventy seven with Sergeant
Speaker 1: Major Mike Adams please go take a look at that interview.
Speaker 1: He was a tenth group guy. I think he was
Speaker 1: also first group. He was on the green light teams.
Speaker 1: He was doing all kinds of spooky stuff over the summer.
Speaker 1: Mike passed away, you know, and that that interview. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's important to his family. Mike's also and we defy.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm gonna miss the guy. I mean, he
Speaker 1: was a grumpy Sergeant Major but had a big heart.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry that we don't get to talk anymore.
Speaker 1: I'll miss him. He fought cancer for a long time.
Speaker 1: Uh seventy eight was Matt Stevens.
Speaker 3: Hold on, so you're telling me that the episode three
Speaker 3: hundred wasn't actually episode three hundred or it was because uh,
Speaker 3: Sergeant Major Adams was after the three hundred.
Speaker 1: I believe it doesn't matter. It's just just leave it
Speaker 1: alone alone, Dmitri, Just leave it alone. I will go
Speaker 1: in there and I'll relabel it like episode to seventy
Speaker 1: seven A and B. You known, Yeah, yeah, exactly. Uh
Speaker 1: so tow seventy eight was Matt Stevens. He was uh
Speaker 1: he commanded Red Squadron and then was it the Special
Speaker 1: Boat Team is Gray Squadron. I yeah, yeah, so he
Speaker 1: he led both of those elements. Super cool guy, great
Speaker 1: stories and he uh is also with the Honor Foundation. Uh.
Speaker 1: Mike Alterman introduced us to Matt Stevens and that's how
Speaker 1: that came about. He was cool. Uh oh, this was
Speaker 1: this guy was interesting too. Dan McClinton episode two seventy
Speaker 1: nine was Apache pilot. You found that dude, Dave, And
Speaker 1: I mean he had cool stories from all sorts of
Speaker 1: different time frames.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, he you know, I think, yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean hearing about like the Apache pilots and again that's
Speaker 2: you know, getting guys on here like that and Greg
Speaker 2: and other people who are sort of doing these kind
Speaker 2: of cool jobs that you really don't hear about that often.
Speaker 1: And man, they laid some scunion. You know.
Speaker 2: They definitely the you know, the all all the Assault
Speaker 2: helicopter guys, and you know a lot of the the pilots. Uh.
Speaker 1: Two eighty Robert Young Pelton journalist.
Speaker 2: A guy that was influential in both both Jack's and
Speaker 2: mine kind of coming up. Yeah, you know, the World's
Speaker 2: Most Dangerous Places and yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And Pelton is working also on his own like documentary podcasts.
Speaker 1: But which I believe still has not seen the light
Speaker 1: of day. But keep your eyes peeled for that. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he has interesting people coming. Uh to eighty one
Speaker 1: are spiciest, Yeah, yes, definitely the spiciest, most controversial episode
Speaker 1: of the year.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Eric Deeming former Team six guy, just use
Speaker 2: a convention. Convention Yeah, sorry about that, yeah, former conventional
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and had you know a few things to
Speaker 2: say about a few things.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I knew it was going to be spicy.
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was going to be that spicy.
Speaker 3: Uh. He dropped like a fucking nuclear bob that he
Speaker 3: hadn't told anybody else in the other podcast about it's like,
Speaker 3: oh my, Jocko's smoking a source once he got off
Speaker 3: a helicopter.
Speaker 1: So that was uh, yes, that was pretty shocking, most
Speaker 1: shocking moment in team history. That was good.
Speaker 3: I remember, remember you got your face Jack because we
Speaker 3: were on this side, yeah, on the side of the aquarium,
Speaker 3: so you were like, wait, so you're saying you've got
Speaker 3: a hold of helicopter and smoked his source. He smoked
Speaker 3: the first brown guy he saw him and it was
Speaker 3: a source. Still no still no uh, defamation law suit
Speaker 3: or anything not that not.
Speaker 1: That I've heard of. Two eighty two was pad O'Donnell,
Speaker 1: who wrote the book about uh, basically special operations during
Speaker 1: the Civil War. Yeah.
Speaker 2: What was the book called, uh, The Unvanquished. Yeah, and uh,
Speaker 2: I mean the book if you I am not a
Speaker 2: huge history book reader outside of the show, but the
Speaker 2: book reads like a novel. You know, it's a lot
Speaker 2: of first time accounts of you know, a lot of
Speaker 2: the Rangers and Raiders and you know, you know these
Speaker 2: kind of like small elite units and it was just fantastic.
Speaker 1: Lincoln assassination and the link poor.
Speaker 2: Boy, Yeah, I mean, there there's some wild stuff in there.
Speaker 2: You know that the Lincoln assassination was actually a plot.
Speaker 1: That was attempting to decapitate.
Speaker 2: The Union by taking out Lincoln, like three the three
Speaker 2: heads of the Union at the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, yeah, fantastic.
Speaker 2: You know, Lincoln was killed another I can't remember who
Speaker 2: the other one was, but like the assailant got into
Speaker 2: the house and stabbed.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I think it was the secretary Seward, yeah, Seward, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then the third guy I think chickened out or something.
Speaker 2: But but the the Secret Service was able to like
Speaker 2: track their track down their safe house and yeah it
Speaker 2: was wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah it didn't work, Confederate. Sorry, I met We're still
Speaker 1: I met Pat at the OSS Society dinner this year,
Speaker 1: and uh he is working hard at work on various projects.
Speaker 1: So we'll see Pat on the show. Oh yeah, he's
Speaker 1: one of our favorite historians for sure. To eighty three,
Speaker 1: I really liked this episode with Bill Haynes, special Forces
Speaker 1: sergeant major some cool stories about being like a siff
Speaker 1: guy in the Balkans going after war criminals back in
Speaker 1: the day. But I mean, I think the big takeaway
Speaker 1: from that interview was actually like some leadership lessons about coaching, teaching,
Speaker 1: mentoring soldiers what lines you should not cross. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, I mean that that was a really
Speaker 1: good episode. Enjoyed that conversation. To eighty four was another
Speaker 1: fairly off the wall episode with Dan Corbett, Navy seal
Speaker 1: turned mercenary, doing murk jobs over in the Middle East
Speaker 1: in Yemen, and then he went to Serbia and he
Speaker 1: got balled up there and was in Serbian prison and
Speaker 1: they were charging him with plotting to assassinate the being president.
Speaker 2: Which actually gave him massive street cred in prison where
Speaker 2: everybody was given him the fist bump, you know, like, Hey,
Speaker 2: that his You should read.
Speaker 1: His book if you haven't, Like it's pretty wild stuff,
Speaker 1: pretty heaty stuff, guys. Yeah. Two eighty five. This is
Speaker 1: a more subdued episode Sydney Molder and William Negley. Sydney
Speaker 1: is the widow of Bill Moulder, who is a Sealed
Speaker 1: Team six operator, and William is her half brother. And
Speaker 1: William now runs and works with Sydney to.
Speaker 2: Sound Yeah, sound Off as as an app. That so
Speaker 2: one of the major considerations that people have is losing
Speaker 2: their clearance or take you know, when it comes to
Speaker 2: seeking counseling or you know, reaching out for help, is
Speaker 2: losing their clearance and losing the ability to do their job.
Speaker 1: So they started this app that partners.
Speaker 2: All these charitable foundations from a number of different organizations
Speaker 2: with sound Off, and sound off finds these therapists in
Speaker 2: different states, and so people are able to anonymously join
Speaker 2: sound Off just you know, go to and use whatever
Speaker 2: organization whatever, you know, charitable organization foundation to fund you know,
Speaker 2: anonymous therapy essentially.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So go check out sound off or recommend it
Speaker 1: to people. Keep it in mind. Two eighty six Andy Milburn.
Speaker 1: I don't think I was here for that one. You
Speaker 1: guys were discussing Libya. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Andy's got a vignette in his book when the tempest
Speaker 3: gathers about him.
Speaker 1: Being an absolute maniac and go in too.
Speaker 3: I remember had like a evacuated American family, Yeah, and
Speaker 3: posing as a British guy when he.
Speaker 2: Was when he was when basically there, they told them
Speaker 2: no Americans can go and can go in, and so
Speaker 2: Andy kind of sue as spontes and jumps on a
Speaker 2: bird to go get them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there was like a big standoff kind of
Speaker 3: on thet stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it was Italians that gut him out. Yeah yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: finally they'd done something right. Uh. To eighty seven David Fielding, Uh,
Speaker 1: Spooky inscom guy. Uh Special Forces before that our most
Speaker 1: viewed episode this year. And it's a hell of a
Speaker 1: good story, no doubt about that. So probably all of
Speaker 1: you guys have watched that one.
Speaker 3: A hell of a good title too. I could finally
Speaker 3: use the fucking words.
Speaker 1: Good uh yeah, good.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean once you put Task Force Orange into
Speaker 3: a fucking title, no matter what it is, it's like,
Speaker 3: all right, this is catting it.
Speaker 1: We'll just start putting them in. Yeah. Uh. To eighty
Speaker 1: eight Dave Nielsen, Delta Force operator and dog handler again,
Speaker 1: another guy who had a wild, wild story he was.
Speaker 1: He was part of that generation of guys like they
Speaker 1: really got put through it.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, constant ops, yeah, NonStop.
Speaker 1: And losing his dog. Yeah that was that was terrible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it is a great interview and I hope you
Speaker 1: guys will go and check it out. It's it's meaningful.
Speaker 1: Two eighty nine was an old teammate, old guy I
Speaker 1: went through the Q course with back in the day,
Speaker 1: Alan schamorro Uh. He was on the Sith in third
Speaker 1: group and is a huge jiu jitsu guy, martial artist,
Speaker 1: super interesting background. Actually, I learned a lot in that interview.
Speaker 1: He had a like way more army experience that I
Speaker 1: knew at the time when we were serving together. He
Speaker 1: did a lot. I so probably like half of the
Speaker 1: episode though, we're talking about his trip to Palestine, which
Speaker 1: got the hackles up on some people. Yeah. I had
Speaker 1: one person right in and say that the interview made
Speaker 1: him feel unsafe. Okay, man, you know we we we
Speaker 1: pissed people off with that one. And then there's another
Speaker 1: one where we had a pro Israel woman on eyes
Speaker 1: on and I got a nasty graham about her too.
Speaker 1: So patreon dot com slash the teamhouse.
Speaker 3: But somebody's like when people leave our Patreon, they give
Speaker 3: exit interviews.
Speaker 1: Like why they left.
Speaker 3: For the most part, it's everybody's saying like, you know,
Speaker 3: can't afford it anymore or whatever's like an option for that,
Speaker 3: And then one person's like about that eyes on one.
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm not paying for some Zionist to
Speaker 3: tell me what, Like I'm my alright, man Relacks like.
Speaker 1: We hear everybody save them all Hasselhoff. Yeah, we hear everybody's,
Speaker 1: you know side, like Chuck Simpson SF and CIA contractor
Speaker 1: his seventh Special Forces Group. Dude, awesome career. He was
Speaker 1: all over the place tours in Afghanistan. So go check
Speaker 1: it out if you haven't already. Two ninety one, it
Speaker 1: was another former teammate of mine. He was I think
Speaker 1: we went through RIP together and he was definitely in
Speaker 1: my company in Ranger Battalion, Mike Schavry. Mike went on
Speaker 1: to do awesome things after he left our company, became
Speaker 1: a sergeant major, went and worked at the Jasak joint
Speaker 1: medical augmentation in it. I believe it's called he was
Speaker 1: on and again stuff I didn't know about him. He
Speaker 1: got shot on a deployment in Afghanistan. I mean he
Speaker 1: had a very interesting career. Yeah, and uh yeah, coming
Speaker 1: up in twenty twenty five, another medic that I served
Speaker 1: with in Ranger Battalion we're going to have on the show.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to catch up with him. Two Ed Bogan
Speaker 1: uh Senior Cia. A lot of work in Ukraine, a
Speaker 1: lot of work countering Russia. That was another one of
Speaker 1: the more informative, I guess educational interviews that we did
Speaker 1: throughout the year. Yeah, it was really good. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Mark Po Moraopolis for hooking that up. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ran into Ed at the OSS dinner also, and
Speaker 1: I was making fun of Mark Power Morappols. Yeah. Perfect.
Speaker 3: Whenever you're in whenever in down you need an ice breaker,
Speaker 3: just make fun of Mark Pu moreoppolos its Greeks in general.
Speaker 1: Uh. Two ninety three Simon leak sas interviewing him from
Speaker 1: the tracking is it the their jungle warfare school, They're
Speaker 1: specifically their tracking school in Brunei. He was in there
Speaker 1: with all the Rebelia in the background. That was super cool.
Speaker 1: He has a great background. He was you know, the
Speaker 1: dude that was hunting pheasants. He was a he was
Speaker 1: a poacher, I believe in his youth, but just just
Speaker 1: to eat and then an awesome career in the SAS
Speaker 1: and he continues to work with them. So go check
Speaker 1: out two ninety three. Okay, maybe maybe this one takes
Speaker 1: the cake for the most off the wall episode of
Speaker 1: Mike West stripped in the Rhodesian White Infantry, the Rhodesian
Speaker 1: SAS and then the South African rerekis and uh man,
Speaker 1: there's a guy who likes to fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's all about it. I mean he's
Speaker 2: one of those like warriors that just doesn't.
Speaker 1: His book is right there, Mike West, Special Forces super Soldier.
Speaker 1: That's not that's not hyperbole. Go check go check out
Speaker 1: that episode. You see what we're talking about. H ninety five.
Speaker 1: Another real, real awesome guy. John Daly was Marsak and
Speaker 1: c not related to Dan Daly. Has we QUI fight? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was really cool. He has a book out that
Speaker 1: I read for the episode. It was do we have
Speaker 1: the title on there? Okay, but you guys can go
Speaker 1: and find it on Amazon. Is No, Oh Tough, Rugged
Speaker 1: Bastards is the book, And he did he served in Iraq.
Speaker 1: He was in some pretty dicey places in Iraq, and
Speaker 1: I hope you go check that interview out to ninety
Speaker 1: six was Joe Mucia, who himself is a former marine.
Speaker 1: But the conversation in that episode is about the invasion
Speaker 1: of Grenada in nineteen eighty three from a ranger's perspective
Speaker 1: or the ranger perspective. He wrote a book called cry
Speaker 1: Havoc where he interviewed all of these rangers and put
Speaker 1: it all together and told the like a pretty complete
Speaker 1: story from the call, you know that when they get
Speaker 1: alerted to the planning process which was sounds fairly abbreviated,
Speaker 1: and then jumping Suddenly they're jumping into Grenada and there's
Speaker 1: some wild combat, Like there's like a an armor engagement
Speaker 1: where like they engaged armor with recoiler's rifles. Yeah, crazy
Speaker 1: stuff I didn't even know of. Yeah, So I highly
Speaker 1: recommend that book if you haven't picked it up yet,
Speaker 1: And if you want to go watch the interview, it's
Speaker 1: a pretty good preview. I mean we talked about a
Speaker 1: lot in an hour and a half. Sorry, guys, my
Speaker 1: voice is starting to crack a little bit. Two ninety
Speaker 1: seven was Eric O'Neill. He was with the FBI, FBI agent,
Speaker 1: he was one of I think they he used the
Speaker 1: term ghosts. They're sort of like their version of they
Speaker 1: don't wear you know, they don't go to like the academy.
Speaker 1: They're like unknown and they do like surveillance operations around.
Speaker 1: But the bulk of that conversation was discussing the Robert
Speaker 1: Hanson case, and he was the guy, like if you
Speaker 1: saw the movie, he was the younger FBI agent who
Speaker 1: had to like steal the cell phone and have this
Speaker 1: stuff put on it and then bring it back and
Speaker 1: all of that. So that's a super illuminating episode. You
Speaker 1: guys will really get a kick out of that. One
Speaker 1: ninety eight the Moon Brown, author of Black People Can't Swim,
Speaker 1: which is a little tongue in cheek. He's a former
Speaker 1: combat diver in Special Forces. Really good guy, really nice guy.
Speaker 1: Great book too. Yeah, great book.
Speaker 2: I highly recommend his book because the book itself is
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's his story of wanting to become
Speaker 2: a you know, Special Forces and a combat diver. Uh,
Speaker 2: and not only his relationship with water and swimming, but
Speaker 2: a historical view on the black community and their relationship
Speaker 2: with water and swimming, you know, and why you know,
Speaker 2: quote unquote black people can't very very fascinating interview and
Speaker 2: great guy two.
Speaker 1: Ninety nine, This one was you, Dave Uriah pop yep
Speaker 1: uh so Uriah was.
Speaker 2: He was a Medican special missions unit in a special
Speaker 2: missions unit. I mean, he had an incredible career both
Speaker 2: uh special operations wise and conventional and you know now
Speaker 2: is into his own medical technology company and things like that.
Speaker 2: But he's one of those one of those guys that
Speaker 2: again shows you that you can do really really cool stuff,
Speaker 2: really amazing stuff.
Speaker 1: And that was five hours and seventeen minutes.
Speaker 2: So this is what happens when Jack isn't here, d
Speaker 2: sits back there and suffers.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I was it was touching golf for a
Speaker 1: while for me, and.
Speaker 2: I just run off the rails, you know, because like
Speaker 2: the medical field fascinates me.
Speaker 1: But no, I highly recommend your eye as episode to.
Speaker 2: See like different sides of the military and different size
Speaker 2: of special operations.
Speaker 1: And then comes our big episode three hundred, Well it
Speaker 1: was big for us. I don't know if anyone else
Speaker 1: really cared. Episode three hundred. We had a few friends
Speaker 1: over and we played a Dungeons and Dragons game and
Speaker 1: it was a lot of fun and we'll probably win.
Speaker 1: Episode four hundred rolls around, we'll do something else that's
Speaker 1: goofy like that. But I had a good time. And
Speaker 1: it was only four hours or so less than the
Speaker 1: what was the other one?
Speaker 3: Like, oh my god, fifteen hours and I think the
Speaker 3: only twelve hours of it is on YouTube because it
Speaker 3: got off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the restart a stream after twelve hours. But this
Speaker 1: one is a little more manageable. It's it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: three hours and forty nine minutes. Uh. Three oh one.
Speaker 1: Episode three oh one. Jamie Pannell served in the New
Speaker 1: Zealand Special Air Service. He is one of the guys
Speaker 1: in that fairly famous picture of the New Zealand sas
Speaker 1: guys in Afghanistan. Uh. If you should go check out
Speaker 1: that interview because it's a very unique perspective from you know,
Speaker 1: we don't get to hear from too many of these guys,
Speaker 1: so it's really cool to hear about his country's special
Speaker 1: ops service. And he also we talked a lot about
Speaker 1: their timing Kaboul and a pretty significant firefight they got
Speaker 1: in when the when the Taliban was a hotel, Yeah,
Speaker 1: when the Taliban came and took it over or tried to,
Speaker 1: and they got into a really hilacious firefight. Three oh
Speaker 1: two Pat Weneger, Senior CIA Office one of my favorites. Also,
Speaker 1: you know Pat is uh you know I I used
Speaker 1: to talk to his dad on the phone once in
Speaker 1: a while. George Weneger, who I'm sorry we don't have
Speaker 1: a recorded interview on the Teamhouse with George. He was
Speaker 1: a Special Forces legend, lots of time. He served in Vietnam,
Speaker 1: also served all over Latin America, even with with other
Speaker 1: friends of mine. And then his son Pat served in
Speaker 1: the Army and then made the jump over to the
Speaker 1: CIA and did some really important work at the agency,
Speaker 1: some of which we were able to touch upon in
Speaker 1: the interview. And he told a great story about extracting
Speaker 1: his source in Iraq. Yeah, fantastic, fantastic story. Very I
Speaker 1: mean like Hollywood, you know, film type stuff. Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: Episode three oh three was Chris Cappy. Uh. He is
Speaker 1: a former infantryman, had some awesome story and he is
Speaker 1: also the dude that does videos for the Task and
Speaker 1: Purpose YouTube channel. He's a big YouTuber, big star. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a great guy too. Yeah, cool dude. And then
Speaker 1: three or four with was Justin Warrez who was fifth
Speaker 1: Special Forces Group, and again cool story man about like
Speaker 1: there's some leadership lessons in there, there's some good combat stories,
Speaker 1: and then there's just Justin's like completely eccentric hobbies.
Speaker 2: The guy wanted to learn how to build an airplane,
Speaker 2: so he bought a library, a little library full of
Speaker 2: aeronautics and and airframe and construction and everything else and
Speaker 2: learn how to build.
Speaker 1: And it was like, that's no big deal. You can
Speaker 1: teach yourself to do this.
Speaker 3: And they currently building an airplane right now for their
Speaker 3: aviation company. And they have a great company that sponsors
Speaker 3: our podcast KG Connecticus Bingo, Connectic Research Group dot com.
Speaker 1: So they're great dudes. Yeah, go check out the interview
Speaker 1: with Justin. He was a lot of fun. Three h
Speaker 1: five David McCloskey on the show for the second time,
Speaker 1: talking about his new novel, The Seventh Floor. David was
Speaker 1: a CIA analyst and now he writes five thrillers and
Speaker 1: I've read all three of them. I definitely suggest you
Speaker 1: guys go and check them out. I only read Moscow
Speaker 1: X and it's fucking awesome. Yeah, Moscow X probably is
Speaker 1: my favorite. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a new podcast too called The Rest
Speaker 3: is Classified.
Speaker 1: That's like doing really great. It's Colick on the audio.
Speaker 1: Check that out. Cool. I'm okay, last page.
Speaker 3: This show is the show that I think should have
Speaker 3: gotten more views and it didn't, and I'm upset about that,
Speaker 3: So you guys should go check it out.
Speaker 1: I agree. Chris Feistel who was a DEA agent and
Speaker 1: he was involved in breaking up the Colleague cartel down
Speaker 1: in Colombia. That was a really really interesting episode. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know why it really need to get the
Speaker 1: atten not it probably should have, but if you're hearing
Speaker 1: about it for the first time, go and check it out. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And he's he's actually depicted in the Netflix show Narcos
Speaker 3: as one of the agents.
Speaker 1: Three oh seven Jack Barski, who was KGB illegal.
Speaker 2: So to say, a sleeper agents as the popular vernacular
Speaker 2: would say, which was a really fascinating story.
Speaker 1: How he got recruited, yes, and what was in the
Speaker 1: East Germany, East Germany, Yeah, and then came over here
Speaker 1: and was basically a low level intelligence officer for the KGB.
Speaker 2: With with the intent to basically working his way up
Speaker 2: in society right through contacts sort of like you know,
Speaker 2: do you remember like the Schindler's List, Like he starts
Speaker 2: out in the bars and hanging out like the low
Speaker 2: level guys, and then yeah, starts working his way up
Speaker 2: almost almost in that way was sort of his you.
Speaker 1: Know, science It's interesting. I believe there's a there was
Speaker 1: a Czech, a Czech national who has also had that
Speaker 1: kind of job in the United States, and you know,
Speaker 1: a similar story like these guys. The problem with having
Speaker 1: a long term sleeper agent. The guys get married, Yeah,
Speaker 1: their wife is American, their kids are American. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: like they become more American than Russian. You know, that's
Speaker 1: probably why they end up sticking around.
Speaker 2: I think Chinese do it right, like where they attached
Speaker 2: their operatives to political campaigns early on, and you know,
Speaker 2: get that get that funding and things.
Speaker 1: Like oh right, right right, yeah. I mean there's a
Speaker 1: whole interesting thing there. I mean the Chinese are they
Speaker 1: do get ideological recruitments, yeah, exactly. We don't get very
Speaker 1: many of those, yea, And they go heavily after ethnically
Speaker 1: Chinese people and their government has this attitude of like
Speaker 1: anyone who is ethnically Chinese as are people.
Speaker 2: And if you have family back in China, you are
Speaker 2: at the at the mercy of the Chinese government pretty much.
Speaker 1: Uh. Three eight q Kia he was a para in
Speaker 1: the UK military. That was a really fun episode. He
Speaker 1: does a podcast to interviewing UK military veterans. Definitely check
Speaker 1: his interview out. Three oh nine was John Kiriaku. Another
Speaker 1: controversial episode, perhaps for some controversial for some. He was
Speaker 1: I got a lot of shit for that.
Speaker 3: I got a lot of shit when I just asked, Hey,
Speaker 3: what do you think of this person? I got a
Speaker 3: lot of shit, a lot of guilt, guilt the CIA
Speaker 3: people like the guilt you former CIA people.
Speaker 1: You can't shame the shameless, ye they But no, I
Speaker 1: had no problem with his with his episode, and I
Speaker 1: thought it was a good conversation. John was a CIA
Speaker 1: officer who served in in Greece. Some really interesting stories
Speaker 1: about what was it seventeen November and then he as
Speaker 1: he got out of the agency, he became a whistleblower
Speaker 1: of sorts and ended up having to do some prison time.
Speaker 1: So go check out that episode and you can hear
Speaker 1: it straight from John rather than really good counting it.
Speaker 1: It's worth your time.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Three ten gene U for the second time. Yeah, his
Speaker 1: second episode on the Team House, in his episode The
Speaker 1: Second Shot or I'm sorry that his book is called
Speaker 1: The Second Shot. Please go and take a look at that.
Speaker 1: It's about when he was out of Special Forces and
Speaker 1: he was a civilian. He helped repatriate a Taiwanese woman
Speaker 1: who had been kidnapped in the Philippines and have her
Speaker 1: brought home. Fantastic. It's a wild story.
Speaker 2: It's a great story, and gene is just like an
Speaker 2: amazing dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh three eleven, this was you, guys, Jim Cisco.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Jim, you know, very very interesting story with
Speaker 2: him and his expertise in Afghanistan. A lot of the
Speaker 2: obviously he was running there, he's sort of insight into,
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of what was going on.
Speaker 1: What do you think, d.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had a really good perspective because he was
Speaker 3: like attached, so he was a liaison to Carzi.
Speaker 1: Yeah for a while. Yeah, we had a lot of
Speaker 1: that inside baseball. Yeah, it was like he was very
Speaker 1: close to cars. Yeah, yeah, cars. I liked him. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Three twelve Craig Jurgensen, who is a warp in Vietnam. Awesome,
Speaker 1: awesome episode. Awesome guy, great writer. Oh, Dave, actually I
Speaker 1: brought that book in for you. He sent his Civil
Speaker 1: War book. Oh, excellent, fantastic man. And so he he
Speaker 1: also is writing a series. I think it's the first
Speaker 1: one is called Chasing Romeo, and it's a series about
Speaker 1: worps in Vietnam that I'm really enjoying. So go check
Speaker 1: out that interview. You'll love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really good, and he didn't get demonetized
Speaker 3: because all of our other ab episodes for some reason
Speaker 3: got demonetized.
Speaker 1: Because those salty Vietnam veterans have many words. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Three thirteen. This was another episode that I wish got
Speaker 1: more attention. It deserved to get more attention. It doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense to me. Yeah. Kushaw Limbu, he served
Speaker 1: in the gurkhas a very unique, colorful historical unit, the
Speaker 1: Nepalese soldiers that serve for the British government. Please go
Speaker 1: check that episode out. Man and Koushall had an interesting,
Speaker 1: I mean, a wild story. He lost both of his legs,
Speaker 1: in Afghanistan during an IED blast and he got prosthetic
Speaker 1: legs and now he's involved in athletics, he's you know, golf,
Speaker 1: participated in like the Para Olympics, the Invictus Games, and yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's a big golfer now, so please go check
Speaker 1: that episode out three fourteen. All right, I admit I
Speaker 1: am a partial to the Ranger interviews David Waterhouse. Fantastic
Speaker 1: interview that that dude has a pretty wild story.
Speaker 3: Pretty credible too. He served four years, a little bit
Speaker 3: more than four years, had six deployments.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's nuts. Yeah. Again, it's that generation of guys
Speaker 1: that got put through it. And he did a documentary
Speaker 1: too that you guys can go check out with an
Speaker 1: Amazon pract called Ranger. Yeah. Yeah. Through fifteen was the
Speaker 1: We Defy episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we interviewed kind of an unknown author Cap
Speaker 2: he came in to help with that interview, or Chris
Speaker 2: Chris Cappy came into help with that interview. And you know,
Speaker 2: we had none other than Jack Murphy sitting in the
Speaker 2: hot seat to interview that is the renowned author. And
Speaker 2: how did you feel the interview on?
Speaker 1: Oh? Really, well, I thought it was the best one
Speaker 1: I've done for the book so far, so you would
Speaker 1: recommend the team House too. I would recommend the Team
Speaker 1: House interview to the Team House viewers, Yes, I would. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I should say thank you guys, all of you
Speaker 1: who supported the book and went out and got it.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. The book's doing well and it's
Speaker 1: getting out there, and apparently it's generating some really positive
Speaker 1: conversations out there with folks. So I'm really proud to
Speaker 1: be able to, you know, put this out there for
Speaker 1: the guys. Three sixteen was Frank and doctor Reno. They
Speaker 1: are basically I mean, Frank is a is an Air
Speaker 1: Force officer, but they're both academics. Yeah, and they both
Speaker 1: go around the world and they study America's different security
Speaker 1: partnerships that we have around the world, saying which ones
Speaker 1: are going right, which ones are going wrong?
Speaker 2: Right? And yeah, yeah, very very good conversation. It has
Speaker 2: five thousand views, which is just.
Speaker 1: So yeah, if you want like a really deep dive
Speaker 1: unlike America's current security relationship with Ukraine and what's going
Speaker 1: on over there, Doctor Reno literally like got off a
Speaker 1: plane the day prior from Ukraine and then is sitting
Speaker 1: here telling us what he saw. So if you're looking
Speaker 1: for more information about that topic, you should definitely check
Speaker 1: that episode.
Speaker 3: I'm going to change the title to Deadly as TFO mission.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, h or just put not Task Force Orange,
Speaker 2: but it will still come up in or outside of
Speaker 2: Task Force Orange.
Speaker 1: And then our three seventeen Wade Ishi Moto legend, Delta
Speaker 1: Force intelligence officer, one of the original members of Delta Force.
Speaker 1: He's an interview that I honestly, he's one of those
Speaker 1: guys I would have told you we'll never get back out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you'll never see him on the show. Yeah, you're welcome.
Speaker 1: Hey through his pummaker right now. Well to me because
Speaker 1: I made an happen. Yeah, yes you did. I just
Speaker 1: send an email. Good work, thank you. Well okay, So
Speaker 1: Wade published a memoir this year. It came out maybe
Speaker 1: like a month ago, called be in Toku Code. I
Speaker 1: read through it for the show. It's definitely like I
Speaker 1: learned things. Actually, a lot of the stuff that is
Speaker 1: in we defy, like green Light, Blue Light, the origins
Speaker 1: of Delta Force. Wade was boots on the ground for
Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff, Like he was the guy
Speaker 1: that was actually there and if I had his book
Speaker 1: when I wrote mine, I would have referenced it in
Speaker 1: certain parts. And if I ever do an update to this,
Speaker 1: I will.
Speaker 3: The craziest thing about Blue Light and Delta was like
Speaker 3: how those guys were, like who had served together at Vietnam.
Speaker 1: Some of them were like, fuck you. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: We're not cool anymore. Yeah, yeah, sad man, It's sad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Wade was amazing. We just kind of scratched the
Speaker 1: surface in that interview. Go pick up his book and
Speaker 1: you'll get the rest of it. Then three eighteen is
Speaker 1: Andrew Bragg eighty second hear Born, So we got a
Speaker 1: level with you guys. Yeah, the way you're seeing these
Speaker 1: episodes is not you know, this is pre recorded. Right
Speaker 1: after we finished recording this episode, we are going to
Speaker 1: do the interview with Andrew Bragg, so we haven't actually
Speaker 1: done done the interview Yetible it's going to be awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be awesome, folks. I'll tell you he has
Speaker 1: a book out about his combat deployments, so we're we're
Speaker 1: excited to do this interview with Andrew. And Then three
Speaker 1: nineteen is another pre recorded episode, but we've already recorded it.
Speaker 1: So we can say we know what's in it. Jason
Speaker 1: Davis was a Ranger officer and then in the Asymmetrical
Speaker 1: Warfare Group.
Speaker 2: Yeah, really really interesting deep dive on AWG that a
Speaker 2: lot of people are have a surface myself included, have
Speaker 2: a surf surface level awareness of but uh don't really
Speaker 2: know like the deep story how it started and you know,
Speaker 2: and you know it's sort of function.
Speaker 1: Do you guys want a little teaser of what's coming
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five? I do, I will. I'll throw
Speaker 1: a few out there. Let me pull it up here
Speaker 1: on our schedule, all right, So we are currently we're
Speaker 1: recording this in December, December twentieth, and we are currently
Speaker 1: scheduled into March of twenty twenty five, so we're pretty
Speaker 1: far ahead of the game here. Okay, So starting in January,
Speaker 1: our first episode in the New Year is going to
Speaker 1: be with a guy who was apparently like a bona
Speaker 1: fide member of al Qaeda and a CIA asset that
Speaker 1: was trying to infiltrate them, and now he like drives
Speaker 1: cabs in Staten Island. There's a documentary about him. I watched.
Speaker 1: It's wild. It's a wild, wild story and we should
Speaker 1: have him in studio. That'll be very cool. Then we
Speaker 1: have a couple of CIA officers. We have a military
Speaker 1: intelligence officer, I'll just say a special operations officer, Tom Gaines,
Speaker 1: the author of Quantum Dagger. I brought that up a
Speaker 1: couple of times on the show. Darryl Ute or ut.
Speaker 1: I apologize if I'm mispronouncing your name. Tenth group guy
Speaker 1: will have him on the show. My medic buddy from
Speaker 1: three seven to five, a CST. Another dude who worked
Speaker 1: for the NSA. Another SF guy, but he wrote a
Speaker 1: book and republished or maybe published for the first time
Speaker 1: a memoir from an OSS guy, So that'll be really
Speaker 1: interesting to talk to him. Then John Letcher, who wrote
Speaker 1: a book about the Wagner Group, We're going to have him.
Speaker 1: And then a sas M I five guy is going
Speaker 1: to be on the show. So that's the gist of
Speaker 1: what we have coming up in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: Guys, let me let me just explain something. There is
Speaker 3: no podcast on earth that gets the guests we get.
Speaker 3: I need you to understand that I get Sean Ryan,
Speaker 3: forget God bless him, Andy Stump and the rest of them.
Speaker 3: We are the only place to go for this type
Speaker 3: of podcast. Nobody and I repeat, nobody gets these guests
Speaker 3: that we get.
Speaker 1: Thank you there there are. There are definitely some very
Speaker 1: unique interviews that I'm really proud that we're able to
Speaker 1: help bring them to the forefront and get them out there.
Speaker 1: What else do do we have an announcements day do
Speaker 1: we want to tell them about?
Speaker 3: So we're gonna be We're gonna come out with a
Speaker 3: small like channel update video, probably in the new year
Speaker 3: at some point, but we'll like, uh, we'll loosen it up,
Speaker 3: we'll lup you up before we're gonna be switching a
Speaker 3: little bit of how we do things. I mean, you're
Speaker 3: still gonna get the best goddamn podcast in the history
Speaker 3: of the world old maybe top five at least. We're
Speaker 3: we do the shows live. We always do the shows
Speaker 3: live for the most part. Besides these Christmas ones we're
Speaker 3: gonna start, We're gonna continue to do the shows live.
Speaker 3: But the only the only difference will be our Patreon
Speaker 3: members will be able to access to live episodes and
Speaker 3: we will be premiering the episodes a couple of days
Speaker 3: later on the YouTube channel free to everybody. So if
Speaker 3: you want to be part of the conversation and watch
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Speaker 3: to the guests. You will have to be a Patreon member,
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Speaker 3: don't only just get the Team House episodes AD free
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Speaker 3: a Patreon member. So there's two podcasts for the price
Speaker 3: of one. I mean, I don't know a deal in
Speaker 3: the world that's like this.
Speaker 1: Thank you to all the Patreon subscribers out there. You
Speaker 1: guys like keep this engine going and we really appreciate it,
Speaker 1: and we we will not screw our Patreon subscribers. We're
Speaker 1: not going to take anything away from you guys, but
Speaker 1: we are going to deprioritize the like YouTube is kind
Speaker 1: of Yeah, YouTube's not helping us at all. Yeah, Frank,
Speaker 1: the podcast edition of the of the show is doing great,
Speaker 1: but yeah, YouTube is not the priority anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, if you want to get in on
Speaker 3: the convo during the live episodes, and if you're a
Speaker 3: Patron and you're watching this show is live, you don't
Speaker 3: have to put up a super chat anymore. Like you
Speaker 3: could just ask a question in the chat and we
Speaker 3: don't ask it as long as it's like, you know, appropriate. Also,
Speaker 3: we are we're setting up a new website for merchant
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Speaker 3: using are horrific excited to get like these next two
Speaker 3: weeks is what That's what I'm really going to be
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Speaker 3: Stickers coming out with our logo. If you see between
Speaker 3: Jack and Dave right now and the cigar humidor Yet,
Speaker 3: there's a sticker and there's a patch. Yeah, So look
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Speaker 3: do become a patret member, you will get sent to
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Speaker 1: So yeah, you're gonna kiss it with the lipstick. You
Speaker 1: gotta believe it. Yeah, put my perfume on it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh so yeah, I mean it's still the same show.
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Speaker 1: We got to go and run and interview Andrew Bragg
Speaker 1: in just a couple of minutes here, so we're gonna
Speaker 1: call it a year in review right there. Thank you
Speaker 1: again everyone who joined us and has been with us
Speaker 1: this year, and we're really looking forward to what comes
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, so we'll see you then.