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Speaker 1: I know Texas is dominated the headlines doom, devastation, death,
stuff like that always does. And you know this horrific
situation with Camp Mystic twenty seven kids dead is still missing,
the death toll at eighty nine and it's going to
go significantly higher than that. But we can't also escape
what happened to North cal So just east of here.
And you don't you know, Charlotte didn't get pounded with
any of this, but this this trot, the remnants of
this dropic storm dumped epic amounts of rain, especially if
you get over toward More County, the Pie and her
southern area up into Chatham County and then Durham. These
rainfall totals in less than twenty four hours were huge.
Now that ends up in the river streams, tributaries, all
that stuff, and then it ends up in the rivers,
and it'll end up in the Cape Fear River basin
and probably other than others as well. But seven almost
seven and a half inches in More County, the ten
and a half inches up in Durham area of northern
Chatham County, and the eleven eleven point two inches, these
these huge and pockets were over ten inches where there
were there worf was one woman died in Chatham County,
and we were very lucky, in other words, we were
very fortunate that it wasn't worse the and what's what's
also interesting is how high this water has gotten with
respect to what's happened in the past. Now I want
to I'm gonna have a shout out. We're shout outs
to I'm someone who has consistently been a critic of media,
especially in North Carolina Charlotte Observer, News Observer, same company
that doesn't like to ask Democrats very tough questions. It'll
rush to ask Republican stuff questions. It's done that for
decades and it even at wrl Over in the Raleigh market.
That station is is notorious for having a left word tilt.
Pro You know, if it can be portrayed as a
climate change story, they'll do it. If it can be
portrayed in a way that conservatives look bad, they can
do it. All Their editorial cartoons are always left leaning.
It's just the nature of the game, nature of the ballgame.
And well, by the way, if you want to get
into the conversation, it's seven oh four five seven eleven ten,
seven four eleven ten. Now, having said that, when you
start seeing an attempt to restore credulity, when you when
you see an attempt to try to restore some kind
of trust in media, especially in North Carolina, I'm going
to give a shout out for that. And WRL did
that because they had a golden opportunity with this five hundred.
In fact, here's the headline, seantaral brings five hundred year,
thousand year floods to parts of more Chadam, Orange and
Durham Counties. Five hundred two thousand year flood meet. And
so you could have thought that was a great opportunity
for them to go with propaganda that it's climate change
man made blah, blah blah blah blah. But it was
a storm, and you know the storm that. By the way,
the hurricanes are not more intense, they're not more frequent.
We have a lot more people living at the coast,
We have a lot more development at the coast, and
in North Carolina we have millions of more people, we
have millions of more rain gages, we have you know,
millions of more sensor devices and ways of looking at
things and satellites, and there's a thousand different things that
we can measure things at the smallest of levels. But
I'll give them credit. So here's where credits do the
relentless run. I'm reading their story and I'll add commentary
to it. The relentless rain from Chanteal brought on historic
flooding on the Eno River, multiple water rescues, road closures,
down trees, tornadoes and power outages. Widespread rain totals of
four to eight inches we're seen in parts of More Chatham,
Orange Counties, while they were pockets of five to ten
or even more. Most of this fell within a six
to twelve hour timeframe, making it very very when plugging
in the rain totals for areas like Pinehurst Silar City
in Chapel Hill, the rain we saw consistently fell into
what we'd call five hundred year to one thousand year
flood event. There you go, wow, thousand years. Oh my
god's happening. The world's ending right. No, Then they said,
how can it be a five hundred year thousand year
flood event if we saw something like this in nineteen
ninety six, And the person riding the story said, you know,
we see this kind of question whenever this type of
flooding occurs. Admittedly the phrase can be misconstrued. What it
means is that statistically speaking, a flood like that has
a zero point two percent too point one percent chance
of happening in any given year. In fact, six inches
or more of rain within twenty four hours is something
that's only happened three times in Orange County. Those three
times were during Florence, Fran and Floyd So nineteen ninety
nine with Floyd, nineteen ninety six with Fran, and twenty
eighteen with Florence. The Eno River near Durham rose to
record levels as shown by what they had a picture
there that it also happened. So the picture they have
is where the water got to during fran in nineteen
ninety six, and it got there again. It really just
a way to put perspective on the significance of the
rarity of a weather event Like that doesn't mean it happens,
you know, it's like a roulette WILLI odds of it
hitting one given number on any given time, there are
odds for that. If it hit it three times in
a row, that'd be huge. But with this, now think
about that nineteen ninety six, nineteen ninety nine, twenty eighteen,
So not every year, not even every two years, but
it has happened. Now here's what's interesting about that, if
you want to put it in a huge perspective, The
number of sensors has dramatically increased, the rain gages, all
of that. So the further back you go, the less
weather records we have. So we don't know what may
have happened two hundred years ago, three hundred years ago,
four hundred years ago. We can dig through the geologic
stuff and make a good guess, but you can't necessarily
know an individual event like Hazel. What Hazel did at
the coast versus what Hazel did from a rainfall perspective
in North care the rest of inland from North Carolina
is very different. So even if you look at the map,
and I think the map is telling, it didn't. Outside
of that small corridor if you go east or west
of the line I just mentioned, which is more County Durham,
Orange Chatham, that line, if you go east or west
of that to Charlotte or down toward down toward the coast,
hardly anything. It was very localized, very small, very It
was not a widespread, not as widespread as we see
with the typical tropical system. I only say that because
WRL had the opportunity to infuse that story with politics
and it chose not to, So kudos to that. When
you get used to seeing that in the media and
you don't see it also leaps off. So if you're
accustomed to seeing bias and media, it leaps off the
pages immediately when you're reading or seeing it, and I'll
give you an example of that in a moment. But
when you also see that they make an attempt to
be fair minded about it, that also leaps off the pages,
and it's good to see that. I hope this trend
line continues where they're discussing facts now onto something completely
because this is the way my brain works. Not like Elons, right,
not like Elons because well, I'm not a multi billionaire.
But when I see in TV, you see it too.
The greatest Netflix jokes lately is whenever you watch Netflix,
you know that a given show is going to have
a leftward tilt. It's one of the most one of
the most frustrating things I see when I'm trying to
be entertained. A lot of us watch entertainment to not
deal with the reality of what's going on in life. Right,
you just want to detune, decompress, watch something. So I
watched the show and it wasn't Netflix this time. I
don't even remember what it was on. It's called The
Pit great medical show. Get a chance to see it
from a medical standpoint in know a while. Anyway. I
only bring this to your attention because as I'm watching
it is it is like twenty four the show with
Keith er Sutherland in an emergency room in Pittsburgh. Medical stuff, fascinating, interesting,
how they treat victims. But as you go through it,
each episode takes place over the course of one hour,
so that the second episode is the next hour, the
third episode is the next hour in that emergency room,
and they I'm not gonna give I'm not gonna try
to give any of the show away. It's well done.
But what is distracting is when they try to infuse
almost every episode with a leftist argument or a leftist
perspective that makes any conservative try to look stupid, like,
I can't believe we're still having this discussion about whatever
it is sex gender. They just infuse multiple things guns
it would pick the issue, and they infuse every given
show with a left You know, the white guy is
always going to be the bad guy, right, that kind
of stuff, and it just at a certain point it's distracting.
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Speaker 1: Jack, you've been in hold and I appreciate that, and
apologies for the delay there, Jack, Welcome to the show.
How the heck are you today?
Speaker 3: Okay, Hey Chad, how are you doing? Buddy?
Speaker 1: I'm fantastic, hey, question man.
Speaker 3: And maybe I make a comment and maybe ask you
a question, maybe you can help me out here. But
you know, prior to the bill being passed, there was
a lot of discussion about federal spending and you know,
cutting the deficit and cutting federal spending. But you know,
I was thinking the other day and I did some
research on this just you know, as far as the
individual states are concerned. But but if we were to
cut federal spending, and of course, you know, cut the deficit,
which that would help cut the deficit, what happens to
all these states who are so dependent on federal spending
in their particular states. Wouldn't this harm their economy? Like,
for instance, I looked up last week. I wanted to
find out what states are most dependent on federal money
coming into their states, and number one was Alaska if
I remember correctly. Number two is Kentucky, number three is
West Virginia, and number five, I was surprised, is South Carolina.
North Carolina ranks about thirty five thirty six, I believe.
But these states are so dependent on federal money being
spent in their states and money coming from the government.
If we were to cut the death sit by decreasing
federal spending, wouldn't this erectly harm their economies.
Speaker 1: Now, let me, first for our audience, state that everything
Jack just said, except for the summation, is correct. Everything
he said about those states that he named off Alaska,
South Carolina, West Virginia are all true. It's called the
disparity between those who are donor states and those who
are recipient states. North Carolina, South Carolina is in that
recipient's No. No, I'm saying, I'm telling the audience in
case they thought you were some kind of you know,
I think you lean left, but I think those facts
that you stated are absolutely correct. Now where it gets
interesting that you did make a statement in there that
I would take issue with, which is that the lack
of government redistribution of money, which is what I would
call what you're talking about, is going to destroy the
or hurt. You didn't destroy. You were kind of kind
about that, but it is going to wreck the economy
because you're saying that basically government spending is keeping those
economies afloat.
Speaker 3: Let me let me know if i'm I'll say I
have a dramatic impact is a better word.
Speaker 1: Okay, But this is where you know that people and
a lot of people believe this that government spending sustains
an economy or does that to it?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: One of the problems we've got in this country. And
I think hopefully you kind of agree with this, because
I don't think you like debt and deficits much even
if you made lean left, is that that is not
good for our economy to continue spending without an ability
to pay for it. I mean, and while you know,
while I was prepping for your call, we're at thirty
seven trillion in debt. That debt clock is the slightest
I've seen it moving foot now, still moving forward, but
it's the slowest i've seen it moving forward in years.
So we see it. It's got a they've added a
doge clock, which is a savings per taxpayer of about
forty eight hundred dollars. But still the debt percisen is
at one hundred and eight thousand. The debt per taxpayer
is at three hundred and twenty three thousand. Uh So,
these debts and deficits are are astounding, and we have
to do something about now. To your point, which I
think is ahead question, but we've always had a definity
and when was the last time that we did not
have a deficit, Andrew Jackson, and then I think again
sometime in the early nineteen Hudreds. I don't rember the
exact date, but nonetheless, at a certain point you are
borrowing money. But it's the acceleration of it. I mean,
we were at what four trillion just about twenty years ago,
and now we're at thirty seven. So the acceleration of that. Remember,
that's a number that we're obligated to. That you, I,
all the American good faith were obligated to. And to
pretend here's the problem I have, and you tell me
where I'm wrong, don't I want to answer a question
by asking one, Okay, because I think your point.
Speaker 3: I'm not an expert on this subject. I'm not.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, But I think no. I think
your questions are fair. But I do think one is
the scoring by the Congressional Budget Office is I believe,
historically now completely inaccurate. Because the Congressional Budget Office, which
doesn't share how they score a given bill's impact anywhere
you know, it says that it's going to increase the
deficit by more than two trillion. That's why Ran Paul
voted against it. It's why Tillis, you know, kind of
went the way he went. But the Congressional Budget Office
scores thing from what people can tell in a static way.
In other words, it doesn't do it dynamically. In other words,
if I said I was going to run taxes up
to one hundred percent of your income, then it would
collect all that money. But the truth of the matter
is if I raised your taxes tow one hundred percent,
you would find a different way to make money, or
go to cash or something like that. I wouldn't get
all the money from you from a government standpoint. So
that's the difference in the static and dynamic. Whenever you
change the rules, you have a dynamic effect on an economy.
I don't think these these states are going to get wrecked.
I think people saying they're going to get wrecked states
will alter change course. They will fundamentally do things differently.
On the Medicaid they shouldn't have been balancing their budgets
on Medicaid money anyway. That's one of the shifty things
that some of these states have done, where they say
I'm going to get reimbursed for Medicaid and then I'll
use that money somewhere else. That they shouldn't be doing
it go straight to Medicaid reimbursement. So I'm not pretending
I'm going to give you all those answers. I do
believe that government is broken with respect to borrowing, borrowing, borrowing,
and there is a price to be paid for that
we can't continue to coast. Is this bill going to
be comfortable for everybody? I do not believe it will be.
That's why I think.
Speaker 3: But don't you think if we ever got to reach
the point, Chad, if we ever reached the point where
it got to the point where we just simply couldn't
pay the debts, that we can't get it down, that
debt would just swiftly be forgiven in some form of
fashion to maintain the economy and financial integrity to the country.
That debt could just be I just don't think that
we're ever going to reach a point. I'm seventy one
years old now. I don't think we're in my lifetime.
I don't think we're ever going to reach a point
where we're going to eliminate the federal deficit. I really don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think you'll ever eliminate it. I think that
we need to get it more under control. And I
do think that it is a problem if, for instance,
the people who we owe the debt two start losing
that faith in I mean, if you have, and I
would make it. Gosh, you've got such a great series
of questions I want to get to because I think
they're really critical. Jack, if you could stay through this break,
because I think your call is important and I don't
want to gloss over it, So if you could stay
on the phone through the break, I'd appreciate it, because
there's more to discuss on this.
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks man, Thanks all right.
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Speaker 1: So Jack, when we went to the break, we were
talking about, you know, debts and how you felt the
national debt and correct me if I'm wrong. How the
national debt you didn't think was necessarily a bad thing?
That because we've lived with debts so long that why
is that a bad thing? Did I get that wrong
or right? Did I say that? Correct?
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily think it's not a bad thing, but
I just don't think they's a resolved by our leaders
and by the people in charge to ever fix it.
I think it's a great talking point for a lot
of our politicians, but I don't think that they want
to get in the weeds and actually solve the problem.
And then when I did my research last week, I
just wanted to find out, you know, how do we
spend our federal money and where our federal dollars are going.
And then when I saw the states, you know who
are so dependent on federal dollars, and some of those
leaders from those states are always the ones who are
talking about the deficit, but yet they're consuming more federal
dollars than many of the other states. So I just
don't think there's a resolve. I think it's a great
talking point, and I don't think there's any intention of
ever resolving our federal debt and cutting federal spending to
a level that's acceptable to everyone.
Speaker 1: So jack the interest on that debt that you think
they're not cerious about solving, and I think there's a
lot of truth to that on both parties that aren't.
The interest on that debt is a trillion dollars a year.
That means we as Americans, we're diligent, which is unbelievable,
but that's a trillion. It's just over a trillion dollars
a year, and that has to be paid before any
dollar gets spent to help one US citizen a trillion
a year gone just on interest. Now, if we're not
if we're not concerned about it, we need to be
worried because you know, if you have a high enough debt,
debt debt levels affect consumer confidence, so you'll end it
with higher interest rates, you'll end it with slower economic growth.
All these things do hinder their times. It does. What
about you know, if an investor confidence goes away on
the US dollar and the dollar, someone says, you know what,
maybe we need to stabilize on a different currency, not
the US dollar because it's kind of worthless with all
this debt. And also what the government can and can do.
The more of that one trillion that we're paying just
an interest, it also hinders the government's ability to do
these programs at a certain level. So it does matter
and p perspective, you know, when you look at the
debt as a percentage of gross domestic product, I mean
most I don't know how old you are, but from
the time I was pretty much born, it was around
forty percent.
Speaker 3: I'm seventy, I'm seventy years old.
Speaker 1: Okay, well you sound young. You sound young relative that.
So from the time you were born on, it was
about forty percent. In the nineties, it got up to
about sixty plus sixty five percent as a percentage of
gross domestic product. And then suddenly, and we find ourselves
in about twenty fourteen, it goes over one hundred percent.
It zoomed up in twenty twenty under Biden, it went
up to about one hundred and thirty percent of the
gross domestic product, and now it's back down. If I
could even say that's down to about one hundred and
twenty plus percent, that means we're spending more than our
gross domestic product just on the debt. Just the debt
is more than our whole domestic product. To me, that's problematic.
And I know this is boring, it's unsexy, but you
get it.
Speaker 3: No, this is so do you think and I need
to go back and listen to what Alon Musk said,
but do you think he's right when he said this
last bill is not it's going to increase the deficit?
Do you think he's right?
Speaker 1: I think that he's wrong, And I'll tell you why,
because if you're using the Congressional Budget Office scoring, they
have historically been wrong for Democrats and Republicans for Democrats,
you know that are eternally optimistic that their spending is
not going to get him in trouble. It tends to
be worse. For Republicans who want to downplay, Oh, it's
not going to be as bad as Democrats say that,
they use the same group. I don't know why they haven't,
but they don't go with outside of the Congressional Budget Office.
But the CBO scores at a two trillion adding. I
don't think it'll add that much because if we get
the kind of productivity I believe will happen, that number
will come down. I do think red states are going
to have to figure out how to deal with and
they really need to get into work, getting people to
work that are on that can work. If you can work,
you need to be working. I think that's the most
serious problem facing our country is here.
Speaker 3: So why do you think that the so called red
states are conservative states who vote tend to vote conservative
and vote Republican, who tend to be more dependent on
federal dollars. Why do you think they vote that way?
Speaker 1: I think the same reason North Carolina did. I think
public pressure builds medicaid expansion with something Republicans did in
this state. I think they saw the lure of easy
money from the federal government. All we're going to get reimbursed,
were getting ninety percent of it, so we're going to
a lot of it paid for a very little burden
on us. And they get into that trap, and then
the trap gets sprung. The reimbursements still come in the
way they want. There's waste, fraud, abuse, and it gets worse.
I don't know why Republicans. I never dreamed that Republicans
would be the one to expand medicaid to North Carolina,
as they did in South Carolina, as they did in Alaska,
as they did in West Virginia, Mississippi, and all these
other states. It is a problem for them moving forward though,
not going to go away. And you can't continue to
chase this because the point at which the public believes
the government can fund everything is we become less and
less productive, and that, to to me, that's the downfall.
I mean, I think certainly there are military threats in
other countries' dreams of being empires, but I think from
within is how we undo ourselves, and a lack of
financial go ahead.
Speaker 3: Hey, Chad, last question here, So what would your advice
be to a state like West Virginia, like Kentucky, like Arkansas,
like South Carolina. These are among and for lack of
a better term, this, these are what we do. These
are what we call the poor states, you know, low end.
Speaker 1: That's a relative term. But yeah, I think that they
need to have they need to have work requirements in Alabama.
Speaker 3: How do they work their way through this? How do
they how do they become more self sufficient?
Speaker 1: You've got to You've got It's kind of like anything else.
It's not going to be easy. There's going to be
some painful lessons learned. But I do believe this, and
I strongly. I like federalism. I like kicking more power
back to the states. I like getting away from federal
dependency for all states. And I do think those states
need to learn how to live, thrive and survive on
their own more. And I do think that getting more
able bodied Americans back into the workforce. I think the
community college shift that North Carolina has done and others
have done, getting into the trades. I think there's a
lot of ideas that I'm not even aware of yet
because I haven't looked at those other states in detail.
But I am more optimistic than not. But I do
think federal dependency is bad. I'll have to end there, Jack, Okay,
but I appreciate the You.
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Speaker 1: There's so many science y kind of things. It's the
second week of July kind of the height or I
guess we're on the down if you're at the coast,
it's the downwind of the summer.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: You're heading now toward Labor Day and onto Christmas, And
as you get older, it's it's like a really fast
move conveyor built. The older you get, the faster it
comes around. Now, you know, I was I'm always intrigued
by kind of a static way of looking at things
as a former investment guy and entrepreneur now and love
love investing, buying businesses, turning them around, and things like that.
I'm always amazed at statics, static ways of looking at things.
You know, your kids. It says, if your kids nine
or ten and you think they're going to be nine
or ten for five more years, they're not. You know,
they're growing, changing. And the same thing with the way
people conduct an act that we're in a dynamic situation.
I mean, nobody could have if you were making predictions
about where tech was headed in two thousand and five, six,
even into seven a little bit. You know the impact
of the impact of the iPhone dramatically changed the way
tech happened and it's influence on society and the way
we look at things. And you know, when you see
cities looking at their etjs, the extra territorial jurisdictions, a
lot of times cities just sink, okay, I want, and
I think, and we think collectively that the south side
of our town's going is where all the economic development's going.
So we're gonna extend our ETJ out there, and then
lo and behold well, because somebody puts a plant or
something in a different direction, all of a sudden, all
of the new development takes place along that corridor and
the south side is irrelevant. Or in the City of
Charlotte's case, they look at things very statically with rail
lines and they say, we're gonna put a rail line
here because it's really hustle bustle time. But ten years
from now that could be a dead area of town,
and the town takes off and gets hot in another area,
and all of a sudden, they have a light rail
that goes to nothing or no one uses, or to
a more dangerous part of town, whereas a bus line
can move. And again it sounds like I'm taking potshots
at Charlotte, don't mean to be just their illustrations of
a static versus that dynamic world. So when you look
at what's going to happen with this big, beautiful bill,
whether you hate it or whether you love it, I
think a lot of good's going to come out, and
I think there is some fiscal responsibility that will happen
out of it. I think states are going to have
to get away from their addictions to these things. And
what always leads to a great deal of chagrin to
me personally is when when you add government spending to
a given equation and then pretend it was all need based,
and then when you say I'm going to take this away,
it's the end of the world. All of these hospitals
came about before this Medicaid. All of these hospitals operated,
you know, before the Medicaid expansion and got themselves controlled.
Remember Affordable Healthcare, the ACA that Democrats screened was going
to make healthcare more affordable did not. It didn't make
health insurance more affordable. It just shifted a lot of
the responsibility over to subsidies. So, look, you could get
a plan, but it was heavily. You can get a
plan and go to the healthcare dot Gov. Look, I
can get insurance for five hundred dollars a month. But
the plan itself, that was after the subsidies. So the
plan went through the roof, doctors started getting picked up
by hospitals, and all of a sudden, we have these
healthcare cartels across North Carolina. And so when I look,
and I'm not pretending it's an easy issue, but when
I look through stories about this, there's several. The Guardian
over at the US has one about North Carolina, and
it talks about the fact that you know, hey, North
Carolina is going to lose thirty two billion dollars in
federal funding over the next decade, according to an analysis
by the by Tillis's office, He's one of just three
Senators who voted against the villain Tuesday. North Carolina's expansion
only went into effect less than two years ago, by
the way, December twenty three, and less than nineteen months
it has enrolled more than six hundred and fifty thousand people.
So the state aggressively tried to get more people on Medicaid,
and now what it will do the left, Oh you're
gonna cut all of this, because once you confer a
benefit upon someone, it's as if that benefit should go forever.
And that's where the heartless part of being a cont
hervative comes in. That's where because if you're if you're
a true liberal and you truly love people, there is
no accountability. I mean, you would say that, hey, why
don't we teachers always if you said I want to
give teachers a fifteen percent raise, oh, you heartless Republican
teachers deserve far bigger raises. Okay, what's what's the rays
they deserve? What's the limit beyond which you wouldn't go?
They will never kind of give you that. Whatever the
Republicans propose, it'll be more than but it's never enough.
And this is where I sound to you that are
on the left listening to this broadcast that the heartless
because there's no amount of government spending that the left
is ever satisfied with. If we were to enroll four
million people in medicaid, if we were to get every
citizen in the state on medicaid except for those evil
rich people, then that would be considered a success. The governor,
you know, Josh Stein, would say, look, we have five
million more people on Medicaid. This is great. And I
remember through the past year and a half of constantly saying,
this is not a time to celebrate the fact that
you have more people on Medicaid than ever for it's
not a celebration. That's just moving to socialized medicine. That's
not a celebrations, that's an abject felt. We have ten
million people in the state. We added six hundred and
fifty thousand in addition to the one point some I
almost you know, in a state of ten million people,
ten million plus, and you're enrolling two million in Medicaid
twenty percent, thirty percent? I mean, what's the magic number?
And you never get that kind of answer. So what
you say is, you know this is I love this.
They quoted Molly Zinckler in this article from The Guardian.
She is the nurse at Mission Hospital in Asheville. Here's
what she had to say. Ultimately, Medicaid being cut is
going to kill people. That's it, no discussion, no policy,
just going to kill people. I deal with people getting
their feet literally amputated because they don't have access to
diabetic care. Do they really not have access or not
have knowledge about where to get help. So she's saying
they're getting their feet cut off now that they've expanded Medicaid,
they're getting their feet cut off. People are dying, and
I don't think that's I know that's not entirely true.
So the goal is to enroll as many people as possible,
and then if you cut, gut or do anything to it,
it's to scream at the top of the trees, how
horrific and how devastating it is. What is horrible and
devastating is a trillion dollars paid on interest that's taken
away from that's coming right out of the economy, A
trillion dollars a year coming out of the economy just
to pay interest on the national debt. We can't continue
rolling these dice. And is the left interested in doing
anything to fix that? Not, not a thing. Is the
right doing it aggressively? No, because it's so painful. Because
if you look at where we have, these entitlement programs
have eaten us alive, and trying to be irresponsible adult
is like telling a kid, know what the at this
grocery store, I want it, mommy, No, you can't have it.
And that's the Left is but everyone buys into it.
Now we have to get upset about it. You're gonna
hurt People's devastating.
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