1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:05,599 Speaker 1: What's going on. 2 00:00:05,759 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. It 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,080 is heard live every day from noon to three on 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,839 WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you want exclusive content 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,160 like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, I daily 6 00:00:17,199 --> 00:00:19,239 show prep with all of the links, become a patron, 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,640 go to thepeakclendarshow dot com. Make sure you hit the 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,679 smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:28,320 your support. 11 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: I know Texas is dominated the headlines doom, devastation, death, 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,079 stuff like that always does. And you know this horrific 13 00:00:36,119 --> 00:00:39,640 situation with Camp Mystic twenty seven kids dead is still missing, 14 00:00:39,679 --> 00:00:41,159 the death toll at eighty nine and it's going to 15 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,240 go significantly higher than that. But we can't also escape 16 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,200 what happened to North cal So just east of here. 17 00:00:48,719 --> 00:00:51,600 And you don't you know, Charlotte didn't get pounded with 18 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,960 any of this, but this this trot, the remnants of 19 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,960 this dropic storm dumped epic amounts of rain, especially if 20 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,600 you get over toward More County, the Pie and her 21 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,119 southern area up into Chatham County and then Durham. These 22 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,400 rainfall totals in less than twenty four hours were huge. 23 00:01:07,439 --> 00:01:10,719 Now that ends up in the river streams, tributaries, all 24 00:01:10,719 --> 00:01:12,079 that stuff, and then it ends up in the rivers, 25 00:01:12,079 --> 00:01:14,120 and it'll end up in the Cape Fear River basin 26 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,040 and probably other than others as well. But seven almost 27 00:01:18,159 --> 00:01:20,560 seven and a half inches in More County, the ten 28 00:01:20,599 --> 00:01:24,200 and a half inches up in Durham area of northern 29 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,439 Chatham County, and the eleven eleven point two inches, these 30 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,719 these huge and pockets were over ten inches where there 31 00:01:30,799 --> 00:01:33,799 were there worf was one woman died in Chatham County, 32 00:01:33,799 --> 00:01:36,599 and we were very lucky, in other words, we were 33 00:01:36,719 --> 00:01:40,879 very fortunate that it wasn't worse the and what's what's 34 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,719 also interesting is how high this water has gotten with 35 00:01:44,799 --> 00:01:46,599 respect to what's happened in the past. Now I want 36 00:01:46,599 --> 00:01:48,319 to I'm gonna have a shout out. We're shout outs 37 00:01:48,319 --> 00:01:52,560 to I'm someone who has consistently been a critic of media, 38 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,840 especially in North Carolina Charlotte Observer, News Observer, same company 39 00:01:56,159 --> 00:01:59,519 that doesn't like to ask Democrats very tough questions. It'll 40 00:01:59,599 --> 00:02:02,480 rush to ask Republican stuff questions. It's done that for 41 00:02:02,599 --> 00:02:06,400 decades and it even at wrl Over in the Raleigh market. 42 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,960 That station is is notorious for having a left word tilt. 43 00:02:11,439 --> 00:02:14,080 Pro You know, if it can be portrayed as a 44 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,800 climate change story, they'll do it. If it can be 45 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,000 portrayed in a way that conservatives look bad, they can 46 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,479 do it. All Their editorial cartoons are always left leaning. 47 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,599 It's just the nature of the game, nature of the ballgame. 48 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,159 And well, by the way, if you want to get 49 00:02:25,159 --> 00:02:27,680 into the conversation, it's seven oh four five seven eleven ten, 50 00:02:27,719 --> 00:02:31,879 seven four eleven ten. Now, having said that, when you 51 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:36,240 start seeing an attempt to restore credulity, when you when 52 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,599 you see an attempt to try to restore some kind 53 00:02:39,599 --> 00:02:42,120 of trust in media, especially in North Carolina, I'm going 54 00:02:42,159 --> 00:02:44,680 to give a shout out for that. And WRL did 55 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,879 that because they had a golden opportunity with this five hundred. 56 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,879 In fact, here's the headline, seantaral brings five hundred year, 57 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,479 thousand year floods to parts of more Chadam, Orange and 58 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,199 Durham Counties. Five hundred two thousand year flood meet. And 59 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,280 so you could have thought that was a great opportunity 60 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,240 for them to go with propaganda that it's climate change 61 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,240 man made blah, blah blah blah blah. But it was 62 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,240 a storm, and you know the storm that. By the way, 63 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,560 the hurricanes are not more intense, they're not more frequent. 64 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,400 We have a lot more people living at the coast, 65 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,400 We have a lot more development at the coast, and 66 00:03:17,439 --> 00:03:19,960 in North Carolina we have millions of more people, we 67 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,120 have millions of more rain gages, we have you know, 68 00:03:22,199 --> 00:03:25,240 millions of more sensor devices and ways of looking at 69 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,680 things and satellites, and there's a thousand different things that 70 00:03:28,599 --> 00:03:33,800 we can measure things at the smallest of levels. But 71 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,159 I'll give them credit. So here's where credits do the 72 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,000 relentless run. I'm reading their story and I'll add commentary 73 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,360 to it. The relentless rain from Chanteal brought on historic 74 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,520 flooding on the Eno River, multiple water rescues, road closures, 75 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:49,039 down trees, tornadoes and power outages. Widespread rain totals of 76 00:03:49,039 --> 00:03:51,159 four to eight inches we're seen in parts of More Chatham, 77 00:03:51,199 --> 00:03:53,479 Orange Counties, while they were pockets of five to ten 78 00:03:53,879 --> 00:03:56,319 or even more. Most of this fell within a six 79 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:01,199 to twelve hour timeframe, making it very very when plugging 80 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,919 in the rain totals for areas like Pinehurst Silar City 81 00:04:03,919 --> 00:04:06,439 in Chapel Hill, the rain we saw consistently fell into 82 00:04:06,439 --> 00:04:08,639 what we'd call five hundred year to one thousand year 83 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,120 flood event. There you go, wow, thousand years. Oh my 84 00:04:12,159 --> 00:04:15,479 god's happening. The world's ending right. No, Then they said, 85 00:04:15,599 --> 00:04:17,439 how can it be a five hundred year thousand year 86 00:04:17,439 --> 00:04:19,319 flood event if we saw something like this in nineteen 87 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:22,800 ninety six, And the person riding the story said, you know, 88 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,759 we see this kind of question whenever this type of 89 00:04:24,759 --> 00:04:29,199 flooding occurs. Admittedly the phrase can be misconstrued. What it 90 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:34,040 means is that statistically speaking, a flood like that has 91 00:04:34,079 --> 00:04:37,040 a zero point two percent too point one percent chance 92 00:04:37,079 --> 00:04:40,720 of happening in any given year. In fact, six inches 93 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,879 or more of rain within twenty four hours is something 94 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,959 that's only happened three times in Orange County. Those three 95 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:51,199 times were during Florence, Fran and Floyd So nineteen ninety 96 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,839 nine with Floyd, nineteen ninety six with Fran, and twenty 97 00:04:53,879 --> 00:04:57,519 eighteen with Florence. The Eno River near Durham rose to 98 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,720 record levels as shown by what they had a picture 99 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,399 there that it also happened. So the picture they have 100 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,000 is where the water got to during fran in nineteen 101 00:05:05,079 --> 00:05:09,120 ninety six, and it got there again. It really just 102 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,560 a way to put perspective on the significance of the 103 00:05:11,639 --> 00:05:14,199 rarity of a weather event Like that doesn't mean it happens, 104 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,040 you know, it's like a roulette WILLI odds of it 105 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,680 hitting one given number on any given time, there are 106 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,360 odds for that. If it hit it three times in 107 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,240 a row, that'd be huge. But with this, now think 108 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,680 about that nineteen ninety six, nineteen ninety nine, twenty eighteen, 109 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,199 So not every year, not even every two years, but 110 00:05:31,399 --> 00:05:33,920 it has happened. Now here's what's interesting about that, if 111 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,040 you want to put it in a huge perspective, The 112 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:40,199 number of sensors has dramatically increased, the rain gages, all 113 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,720 of that. So the further back you go, the less 114 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,480 weather records we have. So we don't know what may 115 00:05:47,519 --> 00:05:50,480 have happened two hundred years ago, three hundred years ago, 116 00:05:50,519 --> 00:05:53,560 four hundred years ago. We can dig through the geologic 117 00:05:53,639 --> 00:05:57,000 stuff and make a good guess, but you can't necessarily 118 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,600 know an individual event like Hazel. What Hazel did at 119 00:05:59,639 --> 00:06:02,439 the coast versus what Hazel did from a rainfall perspective 120 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,600 in North care the rest of inland from North Carolina 121 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,319 is very different. So even if you look at the map, 122 00:06:08,399 --> 00:06:11,480 and I think the map is telling, it didn't. Outside 123 00:06:11,519 --> 00:06:14,639 of that small corridor if you go east or west 124 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,360 of the line I just mentioned, which is more County Durham, 125 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,800 Orange Chatham, that line, if you go east or west 126 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,879 of that to Charlotte or down toward down toward the coast, 127 00:06:23,519 --> 00:06:28,120 hardly anything. It was very localized, very small, very It 128 00:06:28,199 --> 00:06:30,680 was not a widespread, not as widespread as we see 129 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,319 with the typical tropical system. I only say that because 130 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,560 WRL had the opportunity to infuse that story with politics 131 00:06:38,879 --> 00:06:41,680 and it chose not to, So kudos to that. When 132 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,519 you get used to seeing that in the media and 133 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,639 you don't see it also leaps off. So if you're 134 00:06:45,639 --> 00:06:48,040 accustomed to seeing bias and media, it leaps off the 135 00:06:48,079 --> 00:06:51,959 pages immediately when you're reading or seeing it, and I'll 136 00:06:51,959 --> 00:06:53,720 give you an example of that in a moment. But 137 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,319 when you also see that they make an attempt to 138 00:06:56,319 --> 00:06:58,959 be fair minded about it, that also leaps off the pages, 139 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,800 and it's good to see that. I hope this trend 140 00:07:00,879 --> 00:07:06,600 line continues where they're discussing facts now onto something completely 141 00:07:06,639 --> 00:07:09,319 because this is the way my brain works. Not like Elons, right, 142 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,920 not like Elons because well, I'm not a multi billionaire. 143 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,480 But when I see in TV, you see it too. 144 00:07:17,279 --> 00:07:20,160 The greatest Netflix jokes lately is whenever you watch Netflix, 145 00:07:20,199 --> 00:07:22,519 you know that a given show is going to have 146 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,120 a leftward tilt. It's one of the most one of 147 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,759 the most frustrating things I see when I'm trying to 148 00:07:27,759 --> 00:07:30,199 be entertained. A lot of us watch entertainment to not 149 00:07:30,399 --> 00:07:34,079 deal with the reality of what's going on in life. Right, 150 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,680 you just want to detune, decompress, watch something. So I 151 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,519 watched the show and it wasn't Netflix this time. I 152 00:07:38,519 --> 00:07:40,279 don't even remember what it was on. It's called The 153 00:07:40,279 --> 00:07:42,360 Pit great medical show. Get a chance to see it 154 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,720 from a medical standpoint in know a while. Anyway. I 155 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,079 only bring this to your attention because as I'm watching 156 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,920 it is it is like twenty four the show with 157 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:56,680 Keith er Sutherland in an emergency room in Pittsburgh. Medical stuff, fascinating, interesting, 158 00:07:57,439 --> 00:07:59,959 how they treat victims. But as you go through it, 159 00:08:00,319 --> 00:08:02,600 each episode takes place over the course of one hour, 160 00:08:02,879 --> 00:08:05,079 so that the second episode is the next hour, the 161 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,480 third episode is the next hour in that emergency room, 162 00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:09,839 and they I'm not gonna give I'm not gonna try 163 00:08:09,839 --> 00:08:12,079 to give any of the show away. It's well done. 164 00:08:12,439 --> 00:08:15,839 But what is distracting is when they try to infuse 165 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:21,680 almost every episode with a leftist argument or a leftist 166 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:27,079 perspective that makes any conservative try to look stupid, like, 167 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,279 I can't believe we're still having this discussion about whatever 168 00:08:30,279 --> 00:08:37,240 it is sex gender. They just infuse multiple things guns 169 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,120 it would pick the issue, and they infuse every given 170 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,399 show with a left You know, the white guy is 171 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:44,919 always going to be the bad guy, right, that kind 172 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,919 of stuff, and it just at a certain point it's distracting. 173 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,919 Speaker 2: Here's a great idea. 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But 202 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,519 you know, prior to the bill being passed, there was 203 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,039 a lot of discussion about federal spending and you know, 204 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,159 cutting the deficit and cutting federal spending. But you know, 205 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,879 I was thinking the other day and I did some 206 00:10:29,919 --> 00:10:32,159 research on this just you know, as far as the 207 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,440 individual states are concerned. But but if we were to 208 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,480 cut federal spending, and of course, you know, cut the deficit, 209 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,639 which that would help cut the deficit, what happens to 210 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:47,440 all these states who are so dependent on federal spending 211 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:53,279 in their particular states. Wouldn't this harm their economy? Like, 212 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,879 for instance, I looked up last week. I wanted to 213 00:10:55,919 --> 00:10:59,440 find out what states are most dependent on federal money 214 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,039 coming into their states, and number one was Alaska if 215 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:08,240 I remember correctly. Number two is Kentucky, number three is 216 00:11:08,279 --> 00:11:13,240 West Virginia, and number five, I was surprised, is South Carolina. 217 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,360 North Carolina ranks about thirty five thirty six, I believe. 218 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,639 But these states are so dependent on federal money being 219 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,399 spent in their states and money coming from the government. 220 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,879 If we were to cut the death sit by decreasing 221 00:11:27,919 --> 00:11:31,600 federal spending, wouldn't this erectly harm their economies. 222 00:11:32,879 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: Now, let me, first for our audience, state that everything 223 00:11:36,519 --> 00:11:40,639 Jack just said, except for the summation, is correct. Everything 224 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,039 he said about those states that he named off Alaska, 225 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,600 South Carolina, West Virginia are all true. It's called the 226 00:11:47,639 --> 00:11:50,799 disparity between those who are donor states and those who 227 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,759 are recipient states. North Carolina, South Carolina is in that 228 00:11:53,879 --> 00:11:56,840 recipient's No. No, I'm saying, I'm telling the audience in 229 00:11:56,879 --> 00:11:58,720 case they thought you were some kind of you know, 230 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,559 I think you lean left, but I think those facts 231 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,919 that you stated are absolutely correct. Now where it gets 232 00:12:04,919 --> 00:12:06,639 interesting that you did make a statement in there that 233 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,399 I would take issue with, which is that the lack 234 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,960 of government redistribution of money, which is what I would 235 00:12:13,159 --> 00:12:15,679 call what you're talking about, is going to destroy the 236 00:12:15,919 --> 00:12:18,200 or hurt. You didn't destroy. You were kind of kind 237 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,679 about that, but it is going to wreck the economy 238 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,759 because you're saying that basically government spending is keeping those 239 00:12:23,799 --> 00:12:24,720 economies afloat. 240 00:12:24,799 --> 00:12:27,799 Speaker 3: Let me let me know if i'm I'll say I 241 00:12:27,799 --> 00:12:29,720 have a dramatic impact is a better word. 242 00:12:29,759 --> 00:12:32,759 Speaker 1: Okay, But this is where you know that people and 243 00:12:33,039 --> 00:12:35,799 a lot of people believe this that government spending sustains 244 00:12:35,799 --> 00:12:38,759 an economy or does that to it? 245 00:12:38,799 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 2: Now? 246 00:12:39,039 --> 00:12:40,799 Speaker 1: One of the problems we've got in this country. And 247 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,799 I think hopefully you kind of agree with this, because 248 00:12:42,799 --> 00:12:45,039 I don't think you like debt and deficits much even 249 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,919 if you made lean left, is that that is not 250 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,879 good for our economy to continue spending without an ability 251 00:12:51,919 --> 00:12:53,879 to pay for it. I mean, and while you know, 252 00:12:53,919 --> 00:12:56,879 while I was prepping for your call, we're at thirty 253 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,320 seven trillion in debt. That debt clock is the slightest 254 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,679 I've seen it moving foot now, still moving forward, but 255 00:13:02,759 --> 00:13:05,080 it's the slowest i've seen it moving forward in years. 256 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,440 So we see it. It's got a they've added a 257 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,200 doge clock, which is a savings per taxpayer of about 258 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,960 forty eight hundred dollars. But still the debt percisen is 259 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,080 at one hundred and eight thousand. The debt per taxpayer 260 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,679 is at three hundred and twenty three thousand. Uh So, 261 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,279 these debts and deficits are are astounding, and we have 262 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,240 to do something about now. To your point, which I 263 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:29,320 think is ahead question, but we've always had a definity 264 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,519 and when was the last time that we did not 265 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:36,000 have a deficit, Andrew Jackson, and then I think again 266 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,159 sometime in the early nineteen Hudreds. I don't rember the 267 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:42,399 exact date, but nonetheless, at a certain point you are 268 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,279 borrowing money. But it's the acceleration of it. I mean, 269 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,240 we were at what four trillion just about twenty years ago, 270 00:13:48,279 --> 00:13:50,960 and now we're at thirty seven. So the acceleration of that. Remember, 271 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,720 that's a number that we're obligated to. That you, I, 272 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,919 all the American good faith were obligated to. And to 273 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,320 pretend here's the problem I have, and you tell me 274 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:00,919 where I'm wrong, don't I want to answer a question 275 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,080 by asking one, Okay, because I think your point. 276 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 3: I'm not an expert on this subject. I'm not. 277 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, But I think no. I think 278 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,720 your questions are fair. But I do think one is 279 00:14:08,799 --> 00:14:12,360 the scoring by the Congressional Budget Office is I believe, 280 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:17,240 historically now completely inaccurate. Because the Congressional Budget Office, which 281 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,240 doesn't share how they score a given bill's impact anywhere 282 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,080 you know, it says that it's going to increase the 283 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,440 deficit by more than two trillion. That's why Ran Paul 284 00:14:25,519 --> 00:14:28,399 voted against it. It's why Tillis, you know, kind of 285 00:14:28,559 --> 00:14:32,120 went the way he went. But the Congressional Budget Office 286 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,840 scores thing from what people can tell in a static way. 287 00:14:36,039 --> 00:14:38,600 In other words, it doesn't do it dynamically. In other words, 288 00:14:38,639 --> 00:14:40,039 if I said I was going to run taxes up 289 00:14:40,039 --> 00:14:42,080 to one hundred percent of your income, then it would 290 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,960 collect all that money. But the truth of the matter 291 00:14:44,039 --> 00:14:45,799 is if I raised your taxes tow one hundred percent, 292 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,240 you would find a different way to make money, or 293 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,440 go to cash or something like that. I wouldn't get 294 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,639 all the money from you from a government standpoint. So 295 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,200 that's the difference in the static and dynamic. Whenever you 296 00:14:55,399 --> 00:14:59,120 change the rules, you have a dynamic effect on an economy. 297 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,360 I don't think these these states are going to get wrecked. 298 00:15:01,399 --> 00:15:03,639 I think people saying they're going to get wrecked states 299 00:15:03,679 --> 00:15:08,000 will alter change course. They will fundamentally do things differently. 300 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,240 On the Medicaid they shouldn't have been balancing their budgets 301 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,440 on Medicaid money anyway. That's one of the shifty things 302 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,039 that some of these states have done, where they say 303 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:16,960 I'm going to get reimbursed for Medicaid and then I'll 304 00:15:17,039 --> 00:15:19,200 use that money somewhere else. That they shouldn't be doing 305 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,440 it go straight to Medicaid reimbursement. So I'm not pretending 306 00:15:22,559 --> 00:15:24,000 I'm going to give you all those answers. I do 307 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:29,240 believe that government is broken with respect to borrowing, borrowing, borrowing, 308 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,159 and there is a price to be paid for that 309 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,440 we can't continue to coast. Is this bill going to 310 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,480 be comfortable for everybody? I do not believe it will be. 311 00:15:36,879 --> 00:15:37,480 That's why I think. 312 00:15:38,679 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 3: But don't you think if we ever got to reach 313 00:15:40,759 --> 00:15:43,919 the point, Chad, if we ever reached the point where 314 00:15:43,919 --> 00:15:46,039 it got to the point where we just simply couldn't 315 00:15:46,039 --> 00:15:48,519 pay the debts, that we can't get it down, that 316 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:51,559 debt would just swiftly be forgiven in some form of 317 00:15:51,639 --> 00:15:57,720 fashion to maintain the economy and financial integrity to the country. 318 00:15:58,039 --> 00:16:00,480 That debt could just be I just don't think that 319 00:16:00,559 --> 00:16:02,759 we're ever going to reach a point. I'm seventy one 320 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,679 years old now. I don't think we're in my lifetime. 321 00:16:05,799 --> 00:16:07,440 I don't think we're ever going to reach a point 322 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,440 where we're going to eliminate the federal deficit. I really don't. 323 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: I don't think you'll ever eliminate it. I think that 324 00:16:14,799 --> 00:16:16,879 we need to get it more under control. And I 325 00:16:16,919 --> 00:16:19,320 do think that it is a problem if, for instance, 326 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,440 the people who we owe the debt two start losing 327 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,879 that faith in I mean, if you have, and I 328 00:16:24,879 --> 00:16:27,159 would make it. Gosh, you've got such a great series 329 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:28,519 of questions I want to get to because I think 330 00:16:28,519 --> 00:16:31,200 they're really critical. Jack, if you could stay through this break, 331 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,279 because I think your call is important and I don't 332 00:16:33,279 --> 00:16:35,000 want to gloss over it, So if you could stay 333 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,840 on the phone through the break, I'd appreciate it, because 334 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:38,720 there's more to discuss on this. 335 00:16:38,799 --> 00:16:40,399 Speaker 3: Okay, thanks man, Thanks all right. 336 00:16:40,399 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: If you're listening to this show, you know I try 337 00:16:42,279 --> 00:16:44,039 to keep up with all sorts of current events, and 338 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,159 I know you do too, And you've probably heard me 339 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,399 say get your news from multiple sources. Why Well, because 340 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,120 it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've 341 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,440 been so impressed with ground News. 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Check Dot Ground, dot News slash Pete. 352 00:17:30,039 --> 00:17:32,720 Subscribe through that link and you'll get fifteen percent off 353 00:17:32,759 --> 00:17:36,039 any subscription. I use the Vantage plan to get unlimited 354 00:17:36,039 --> 00:17:39,359 access to every feature. Your subscription then not only helps 355 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,160 my podcast, but it also supports Ground News as they 356 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,440 make the media landscape more transparent. 357 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: So Jack, when we went to the break, we were 358 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,279 talking about, you know, debts and how you felt the 359 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,640 national debt and correct me if I'm wrong. How the 360 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,799 national debt you didn't think was necessarily a bad thing? 361 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,920 That because we've lived with debts so long that why 362 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,519 is that a bad thing? Did I get that wrong 363 00:17:58,640 --> 00:17:59,759 or right? Did I say that? Correct? 364 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,519 Speaker 3: I don't necessarily think it's not a bad thing, but 365 00:18:02,599 --> 00:18:06,480 I just don't think they's a resolved by our leaders 366 00:18:06,559 --> 00:18:10,799 and by the people in charge to ever fix it. 367 00:18:10,839 --> 00:18:12,920 I think it's a great talking point for a lot 368 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,960 of our politicians, but I don't think that they want 369 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,839 to get in the weeds and actually solve the problem. 370 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,279 And then when I did my research last week, I 371 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,200 just wanted to find out, you know, how do we 372 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,359 spend our federal money and where our federal dollars are going. 373 00:18:27,799 --> 00:18:30,240 And then when I saw the states, you know who 374 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,079 are so dependent on federal dollars, and some of those 375 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,559 leaders from those states are always the ones who are 376 00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:40,400 talking about the deficit, but yet they're consuming more federal 377 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,440 dollars than many of the other states. So I just 378 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,839 don't think there's a resolve. I think it's a great 379 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,079 talking point, and I don't think there's any intention of 380 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,440 ever resolving our federal debt and cutting federal spending to 381 00:18:53,519 --> 00:18:55,680 a level that's acceptable to everyone. 382 00:18:56,519 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: So jack the interest on that debt that you think 383 00:18:59,519 --> 00:19:01,519 they're not cerious about solving, and I think there's a 384 00:19:01,559 --> 00:19:03,440 lot of truth to that on both parties that aren't. 385 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,519 The interest on that debt is a trillion dollars a year. 386 00:19:06,759 --> 00:19:10,519 That means we as Americans, we're diligent, which is unbelievable, 387 00:19:10,519 --> 00:19:14,119 but that's a trillion. It's just over a trillion dollars 388 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,839 a year, and that has to be paid before any 389 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,160 dollar gets spent to help one US citizen a trillion 390 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,000 a year gone just on interest. Now, if we're not 391 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,079 if we're not concerned about it, we need to be 392 00:19:26,079 --> 00:19:28,200 worried because you know, if you have a high enough debt, 393 00:19:28,319 --> 00:19:31,720 debt debt levels affect consumer confidence, so you'll end it 394 00:19:31,759 --> 00:19:34,720 with higher interest rates, you'll end it with slower economic growth. 395 00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:37,000 All these things do hinder their times. It does. What 396 00:19:37,079 --> 00:19:39,960 about you know, if an investor confidence goes away on 397 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,960 the US dollar and the dollar, someone says, you know what, 398 00:19:43,039 --> 00:19:45,119 maybe we need to stabilize on a different currency, not 399 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:46,960 the US dollar because it's kind of worthless with all 400 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,119 this debt. And also what the government can and can do. 401 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,640 The more of that one trillion that we're paying just 402 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,240 an interest, it also hinders the government's ability to do 403 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,440 these programs at a certain level. So it does matter 404 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,599 and p perspective, you know, when you look at the 405 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:06,240 debt as a percentage of gross domestic product, I mean 406 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,880 most I don't know how old you are, but from 407 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,960 the time I was pretty much born, it was around 408 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:10,720 forty percent. 409 00:20:11,519 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 3: I'm seventy, I'm seventy years old. 410 00:20:13,599 --> 00:20:15,759 Speaker 1: Okay, well you sound young. You sound young relative that. 411 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,160 So from the time you were born on, it was 412 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,960 about forty percent. In the nineties, it got up to 413 00:20:21,039 --> 00:20:26,119 about sixty plus sixty five percent as a percentage of 414 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,519 gross domestic product. And then suddenly, and we find ourselves 415 00:20:29,519 --> 00:20:33,319 in about twenty fourteen, it goes over one hundred percent. 416 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,440 It zoomed up in twenty twenty under Biden, it went 417 00:20:38,519 --> 00:20:42,160 up to about one hundred and thirty percent of the 418 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,880 gross domestic product, and now it's back down. If I 419 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,799 could even say that's down to about one hundred and 420 00:20:46,839 --> 00:20:50,839 twenty plus percent, that means we're spending more than our 421 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,240 gross domestic product just on the debt. Just the debt 422 00:20:54,319 --> 00:20:57,559 is more than our whole domestic product. To me, that's problematic. 423 00:20:57,599 --> 00:21:00,200 And I know this is boring, it's unsexy, but you 424 00:21:00,279 --> 00:21:00,559 get it. 425 00:21:00,599 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 3: No, this is so do you think and I need 426 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,519 to go back and listen to what Alon Musk said, 427 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,119 but do you think he's right when he said this 428 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,640 last bill is not it's going to increase the deficit? 429 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:15,599 Do you think he's right? 430 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: I think that he's wrong, And I'll tell you why, 431 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,440 because if you're using the Congressional Budget Office scoring, they 432 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,440 have historically been wrong for Democrats and Republicans for Democrats, 433 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,920 you know that are eternally optimistic that their spending is 434 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,480 not going to get him in trouble. It tends to 435 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,279 be worse. For Republicans who want to downplay, Oh, it's 436 00:21:34,319 --> 00:21:35,960 not going to be as bad as Democrats say that, 437 00:21:36,039 --> 00:21:38,960 they use the same group. I don't know why they haven't, 438 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,480 but they don't go with outside of the Congressional Budget Office. 439 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,359 But the CBO scores at a two trillion adding. I 440 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,119 don't think it'll add that much because if we get 441 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,920 the kind of productivity I believe will happen, that number 442 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,440 will come down. I do think red states are going 443 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,039 to have to figure out how to deal with and 444 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,319 they really need to get into work, getting people to 445 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,720 work that are on that can work. If you can work, 446 00:22:00,759 --> 00:22:02,480 you need to be working. I think that's the most 447 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,440 serious problem facing our country is here. 448 00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:10,559 Speaker 3: So why do you think that the so called red 449 00:22:10,599 --> 00:22:15,039 states are conservative states who vote tend to vote conservative 450 00:22:15,039 --> 00:22:18,720 and vote Republican, who tend to be more dependent on 451 00:22:18,839 --> 00:22:23,359 federal dollars. Why do you think they vote that way? 452 00:22:24,599 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: I think the same reason North Carolina did. I think 453 00:22:26,519 --> 00:22:30,160 public pressure builds medicaid expansion with something Republicans did in 454 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,720 this state. I think they saw the lure of easy 455 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,720 money from the federal government. All we're going to get reimbursed, 456 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,160 were getting ninety percent of it, so we're going to 457 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,799 a lot of it paid for a very little burden 458 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,640 on us. And they get into that trap, and then 459 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,359 the trap gets sprung. The reimbursements still come in the 460 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,799 way they want. There's waste, fraud, abuse, and it gets worse. 461 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,559 I don't know why Republicans. I never dreamed that Republicans 462 00:22:48,599 --> 00:22:50,799 would be the one to expand medicaid to North Carolina, 463 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,559 as they did in South Carolina, as they did in Alaska, 464 00:22:53,559 --> 00:22:55,759 as they did in West Virginia, Mississippi, and all these 465 00:22:55,799 --> 00:22:59,160 other states. It is a problem for them moving forward though, 466 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,319 not going to go away. And you can't continue to 467 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,559 chase this because the point at which the public believes 468 00:23:05,559 --> 00:23:08,920 the government can fund everything is we become less and 469 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,920 less productive, and that, to to me, that's the downfall. 470 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,519 I mean, I think certainly there are military threats in 471 00:23:15,559 --> 00:23:19,200 other countries' dreams of being empires, but I think from 472 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,799 within is how we undo ourselves, and a lack of 473 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,680 financial go ahead. 474 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,759 Speaker 3: Hey, Chad, last question here, So what would your advice 475 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:31,680 be to a state like West Virginia, like Kentucky, like Arkansas, 476 00:23:32,559 --> 00:23:35,640 like South Carolina. These are among and for lack of 477 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,759 a better term, this, these are what we do. These 478 00:23:37,759 --> 00:23:41,720 are what we call the poor states, you know, low end. 479 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,599 Speaker 1: That's a relative term. But yeah, I think that they 480 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:50,599 need to have they need to have work requirements in Alabama. 481 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 3: How do they work their way through this? How do 482 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,880 they how do they become more self sufficient? 483 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,319 Speaker 1: You've got to You've got It's kind of like anything else. 484 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,680 It's not going to be easy. There's going to be 485 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,880 some painful lessons learned. But I do believe this, and 486 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,839 I strongly. I like federalism. I like kicking more power 487 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,319 back to the states. I like getting away from federal 488 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,319 dependency for all states. And I do think those states 489 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,319 need to learn how to live, thrive and survive on 490 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,039 their own more. And I do think that getting more 491 00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:25,400 able bodied Americans back into the workforce. I think the 492 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,279 community college shift that North Carolina has done and others 493 00:24:28,319 --> 00:24:30,440 have done, getting into the trades. I think there's a 494 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,920 lot of ideas that I'm not even aware of yet 495 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,839 because I haven't looked at those other states in detail. 496 00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:37,480 But I am more optimistic than not. But I do 497 00:24:37,519 --> 00:24:40,400 think federal dependency is bad. I'll have to end there, Jack, Okay, 498 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,119 but I appreciate the You. 499 00:24:43,079 --> 00:24:45,759 Speaker 2: Know, stories are powerful. 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It's the 519 00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:51,640 second week of July kind of the height or I 520 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,599 guess we're on the down if you're at the coast, 521 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,079 it's the downwind of the summer. 522 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:55,279 Speaker 3: Right. 523 00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:57,799 Speaker 1: You're heading now toward Labor Day and onto Christmas, And 524 00:25:57,839 --> 00:25:59,759 as you get older, it's it's like a really fast 525 00:25:59,839 --> 00:26:02,279 move conveyor built. The older you get, the faster it 526 00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:06,400 comes around. Now, you know, I was I'm always intrigued 527 00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:10,640 by kind of a static way of looking at things 528 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,319 as a former investment guy and entrepreneur now and love 529 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,680 love investing, buying businesses, turning them around, and things like that. 530 00:26:17,759 --> 00:26:21,880 I'm always amazed at statics, static ways of looking at things. 531 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,480 You know, your kids. It says, if your kids nine 532 00:26:25,559 --> 00:26:27,240 or ten and you think they're going to be nine 533 00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:28,880 or ten for five more years, they're not. You know, 534 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,519 they're growing, changing. And the same thing with the way 535 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,039 people conduct an act that we're in a dynamic situation. 536 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,680 I mean, nobody could have if you were making predictions 537 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,279 about where tech was headed in two thousand and five, six, 538 00:26:43,759 --> 00:26:46,640 even into seven a little bit. You know the impact 539 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:51,319 of the impact of the iPhone dramatically changed the way 540 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:56,039 tech happened and it's influence on society and the way 541 00:26:56,039 --> 00:26:58,200 we look at things. And you know, when you see 542 00:26:58,519 --> 00:27:03,119 cities looking at their etjs, the extra territorial jurisdictions, a 543 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,680 lot of times cities just sink, okay, I want, and 544 00:27:05,799 --> 00:27:08,440 I think, and we think collectively that the south side 545 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,920 of our town's going is where all the economic development's going. 546 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,480 So we're gonna extend our ETJ out there, and then 547 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,279 lo and behold well, because somebody puts a plant or 548 00:27:16,319 --> 00:27:19,440 something in a different direction, all of a sudden, all 549 00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:22,880 of the new development takes place along that corridor and 550 00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:25,839 the south side is irrelevant. Or in the City of 551 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,839 Charlotte's case, they look at things very statically with rail 552 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,480 lines and they say, we're gonna put a rail line 553 00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:33,200 here because it's really hustle bustle time. But ten years 554 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,519 from now that could be a dead area of town, 555 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,799 and the town takes off and gets hot in another area, 556 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,200 and all of a sudden, they have a light rail 557 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,640 that goes to nothing or no one uses, or to 558 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,000 a more dangerous part of town, whereas a bus line 559 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,000 can move. And again it sounds like I'm taking potshots 560 00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:51,519 at Charlotte, don't mean to be just their illustrations of 561 00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:55,359 a static versus that dynamic world. So when you look 562 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,279 at what's going to happen with this big, beautiful bill, 563 00:27:59,319 --> 00:28:01,160 whether you hate it or whether you love it, I 564 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,720 think a lot of good's going to come out, and 565 00:28:02,759 --> 00:28:05,039 I think there is some fiscal responsibility that will happen 566 00:28:05,079 --> 00:28:07,039 out of it. I think states are going to have 567 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,039 to get away from their addictions to these things. And 568 00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:14,240 what always leads to a great deal of chagrin to 569 00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:19,240 me personally is when when you add government spending to 570 00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:22,839 a given equation and then pretend it was all need based, 571 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,920 and then when you say I'm going to take this away, 572 00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:28,039 it's the end of the world. All of these hospitals 573 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,720 came about before this Medicaid. All of these hospitals operated, 574 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,640 you know, before the Medicaid expansion and got themselves controlled. 575 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,680 Remember Affordable Healthcare, the ACA that Democrats screened was going 576 00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:43,079 to make healthcare more affordable did not. It didn't make 577 00:28:43,079 --> 00:28:46,279 health insurance more affordable. It just shifted a lot of 578 00:28:46,319 --> 00:28:49,960 the responsibility over to subsidies. So, look, you could get 579 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,640 a plan, but it was heavily. You can get a 580 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,599 plan and go to the healthcare dot Gov. Look, I 581 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,880 can get insurance for five hundred dollars a month. But 582 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,279 the plan itself, that was after the subsidies. So the 583 00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:03,640 plan went through the roof, doctors started getting picked up 584 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,359 by hospitals, and all of a sudden, we have these 585 00:29:05,359 --> 00:29:09,000 healthcare cartels across North Carolina. And so when I look, 586 00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:12,240 and I'm not pretending it's an easy issue, but when 587 00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:15,200 I look through stories about this, there's several. The Guardian 588 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,680 over at the US has one about North Carolina, and 589 00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:19,920 it talks about the fact that you know, hey, North 590 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,279 Carolina is going to lose thirty two billion dollars in 591 00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:27,359 federal funding over the next decade, according to an analysis 592 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,119 by the by Tillis's office, He's one of just three 593 00:29:31,119 --> 00:29:34,480 Senators who voted against the villain Tuesday. North Carolina's expansion 594 00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:37,240 only went into effect less than two years ago, by 595 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,960 the way, December twenty three, and less than nineteen months 596 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,839 it has enrolled more than six hundred and fifty thousand people. 597 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,920 So the state aggressively tried to get more people on Medicaid, 598 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,119 and now what it will do the left, Oh you're 599 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,480 gonna cut all of this, because once you confer a 600 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,599 benefit upon someone, it's as if that benefit should go forever. 601 00:29:57,559 --> 00:29:59,960 And that's where the heartless part of being a cont 602 00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:03,799 hervative comes in. That's where because if you're if you're 603 00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:07,440 a true liberal and you truly love people, there is 604 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,720 no accountability. I mean, you would say that, hey, why 605 00:30:10,759 --> 00:30:12,960 don't we teachers always if you said I want to 606 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,720 give teachers a fifteen percent raise, oh, you heartless Republican 607 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,400 teachers deserve far bigger raises. Okay, what's what's the rays 608 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,319 they deserve? What's the limit beyond which you wouldn't go? 609 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,440 They will never kind of give you that. Whatever the 610 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,359 Republicans propose, it'll be more than but it's never enough. 611 00:30:28,519 --> 00:30:31,519 And this is where I sound to you that are 612 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,839 on the left listening to this broadcast that the heartless 613 00:30:35,119 --> 00:30:37,240 because there's no amount of government spending that the left 614 00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:40,519 is ever satisfied with. If we were to enroll four 615 00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:42,319 million people in medicaid, if we were to get every 616 00:30:42,359 --> 00:30:44,400 citizen in the state on medicaid except for those evil 617 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,519 rich people, then that would be considered a success. The governor, 618 00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:49,640 you know, Josh Stein, would say, look, we have five 619 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,720 million more people on Medicaid. This is great. And I 620 00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:56,119 remember through the past year and a half of constantly saying, 621 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,279 this is not a time to celebrate the fact that 622 00:30:58,279 --> 00:31:00,440 you have more people on Medicaid than ever for it's 623 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:05,200 not a celebration. That's just moving to socialized medicine. That's 624 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,960 not a celebrations, that's an abject felt. We have ten 625 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,480 million people in the state. We added six hundred and 626 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,640 fifty thousand in addition to the one point some I 627 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,400 almost you know, in a state of ten million people, 628 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,640 ten million plus, and you're enrolling two million in Medicaid 629 00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:23,599 twenty percent, thirty percent? I mean, what's the magic number? 630 00:31:24,359 --> 00:31:26,480 And you never get that kind of answer. So what 631 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,680 you say is, you know this is I love this. 632 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,039 They quoted Molly Zinckler in this article from The Guardian. 633 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,839 She is the nurse at Mission Hospital in Asheville. Here's 634 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,440 what she had to say. Ultimately, Medicaid being cut is 635 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,519 going to kill people. That's it, no discussion, no policy, 636 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,880 just going to kill people. I deal with people getting 637 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,319 their feet literally amputated because they don't have access to 638 00:31:47,359 --> 00:31:50,640 diabetic care. Do they really not have access or not 639 00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:56,680 have knowledge about where to get help. So she's saying 640 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,160 they're getting their feet cut off now that they've expanded Medicaid, 641 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,839 they're getting their feet cut off. People are dying, and 642 00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:07,319 I don't think that's I know that's not entirely true. 643 00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:12,400 So the goal is to enroll as many people as possible, 644 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,160 and then if you cut, gut or do anything to it, 645 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,240 it's to scream at the top of the trees, how 646 00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:19,519 horrific and how devastating it is. What is horrible and 647 00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:23,000 devastating is a trillion dollars paid on interest that's taken 648 00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:26,319 away from that's coming right out of the economy, A 649 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,000 trillion dollars a year coming out of the economy just 650 00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:32,359 to pay interest on the national debt. We can't continue 651 00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:35,200 rolling these dice. And is the left interested in doing 652 00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:39,960 anything to fix that? Not, not a thing. Is the 653 00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:43,720 right doing it aggressively? No, because it's so painful. Because 654 00:32:43,759 --> 00:32:46,480 if you look at where we have, these entitlement programs 655 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,960 have eaten us alive, and trying to be irresponsible adult 656 00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:52,039 is like telling a kid, know what the at this 657 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,200 grocery store, I want it, mommy, No, you can't have it. 658 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,559 And that's the Left is but everyone buys into it. 659 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,720 Now we have to get upset about it. You're gonna 660 00:33:02,759 --> 00:33:03,839 hurt People's devastating. 661 00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 2: All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you 662 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,960 so much for listening. 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