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<v Speaker 1>Let's continue now, Billy Cunningham, the Great America. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>State Representative Adam Byrd, both getting in and around New Richmond,

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<v Speaker 1>the Home of the Lions, is one of the leaders

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<v Speaker 1>of the House of Representatives. In Columbus. Last week, Governor

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Dwaine gave a State of the Union State of

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<v Speaker 1>the State address, which I understand went on for about

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<v Speaker 1>an hour and a half. Lots in there. This could

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<v Speaker 1>be one of his last ones because he's leaving office

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of next year. But until then, State

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<v Speaker 1>Representative Adam Byrd, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show

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<v Speaker 1>and the State rep.

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<v Speaker 2>Bird.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we talk about the taxes, all the new taxes,

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<v Speaker 1>Governor Dewines said he wants to raise on almost everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk with you briefly about Ohio dog laws,

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<v Speaker 1>which you kind of a lot of us smile when

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<v Speaker 1>I hear that. But in my younger days I did

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of personal injury work of those who are

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<v Speaker 1>not bitten by dogs, I mean chewed on and almost

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<v Speaker 1>murdered killed by dogs, including losing thumbs and fingers and

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<v Speaker 1>at dogs. We've had a rash of these, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>Coleraine Township, which is the opposite side of the world

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<v Speaker 1>from you. But a woman, an older woman, was killed.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a little girl in Roselawn that was eaten

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<v Speaker 1>alive by two dogs. We've had numerous other individuals in

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<v Speaker 1>and around the tri State that have been disfigured by dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>And I read out of a Columbus Dispatch story. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you're aware of that dogs attack about seventeen thousand

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<v Speaker 1>people a year in Ohio. And that's the tip of

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<v Speaker 1>the iceberg. Because many of the dog attacks are not

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<v Speaker 1>even report it. The actual total was double and triple

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<v Speaker 1>that victims experienced disfigurement, death, amputations, psychological trauma, and huge

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<v Speaker 1>medical bills. And dog owners often get a one bite rule,

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<v Speaker 1>which is, well, your pit bull, your German shepherd can

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<v Speaker 1>have one big bite. We'll let that go and pay

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<v Speaker 1>a minimal fine and go out the door. What can

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<v Speaker 1>you do to correct that? If anything, great to be.

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<v Speaker 2>With you today, Bill, And this is a very interesting topic.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do command the Columbus Dispatch for running this

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<v Speaker 2>story because it's not something that I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of us know about. And if you have a dog

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<v Speaker 2>that you're not in control of and it is assaulting

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<v Speaker 2>other people and disfiguring and maiming that that is that

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<v Speaker 2>should be taken care of in law. And if if

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<v Speaker 2>current law is not adequately protecting people from unsupervised dogs,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got to take care of that, and we've got

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<v Speaker 2>to amend a law. And that's why it's called the

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio Revised Code, because we're revising it when we find

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<v Speaker 2>out about issues that are not, you know, taking care

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<v Speaker 2>of I know.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a headquartered there in Claremont County by the Front

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<v Speaker 1>Street grille, but here in Hamilton County, we had a

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<v Speaker 1>dog warden who was called of the scene of this

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<v Speaker 1>vicious assault on a mother of three. Her arms were

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<v Speaker 1>chewed off, she had her legs bitten and it looked

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<v Speaker 1>like she went through a looked like she went through

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<v Speaker 1>accusin art. It looked like her life. Her life is

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<v Speaker 1>over as she knows that she has years of therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>And when called of the scene that dog Warden said,

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<v Speaker 1>hamilty guy. Dog Warden said, well, I can't get the

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<v Speaker 1>dogs because they're too vicious, And the neighbors are saying,

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell are you saying? That's like a cop

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<v Speaker 1>going to a bank robbery saying, well, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to get involved in the bank robbery. Those robbers look

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<v Speaker 1>too mean, so what in the hell, And I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at that, I'm thinking that can't be the case. And secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>we need strict liability on dogs. That is how many

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<v Speaker 1>times when I had Little Schnorff in the Peanut Head

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<v Speaker 1>and magazine, you'd open a door, they'd run out all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, and then you chase them down to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure they didn't get hurt. If I had a

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<v Speaker 1>Pitbull or a Master or a German Shepherd, I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more cautious. We need strict liability. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine Adam Bird if one of the people in Coraine

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<v Speaker 1>Township that tried to help that mother of three save

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<v Speaker 1>her life and now she's maimed for life. If some neighbor,

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<v Speaker 1>if a human being had done to her what those

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<v Speaker 1>two dogs had done, they'd be locked up for years.

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<v Speaker 1>How come dog owners can have dogs that do this

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no penalty at all?

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<v Speaker 2>You got me all pistol you're about, I know, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really feel responsible for that. But anyway, to

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<v Speaker 2>your point, there are multiple issues here. One is the

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<v Speaker 2>dog itself and what are we going to do about that,

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<v Speaker 2>and are we going to continue to give them one

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<v Speaker 2>free bite where we you know, make them bite a

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<v Speaker 2>second time? And then secondly, are we going to do

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<v Speaker 2>something about the owner of the dog who doesn't properly

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<v Speaker 2>control them and doesn't provide safety for their neighbors around

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<v Speaker 2>a dog that you know they're they're they're not keeping

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<v Speaker 2>on a leash, they're not controlling, and so you've got

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<v Speaker 2>two separate issues there.

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<v Speaker 1>I now, secondly, I don't know if you saw this

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<v Speaker 1>out of out of New York City, a massive new

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<v Speaker 1>study shows that the serious mental side effects following gender

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<v Speaker 1>affirming surgery, this story goes honesty. I'll have the report

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<v Speaker 1>here that after studying this issue for more than fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>years that those Americans who feel, especially if they're miners,

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<v Speaker 1>that as a parent you have to allow hormonal treatment

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<v Speaker 1>and then gender affirming surgery, that the mental problems after

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<v Speaker 1>the surgery are worse than before. Suicides after are worse

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<v Speaker 1>than before, alcoholism drug use is worse after than before.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you tell the American people as we sit here

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<v Speaker 1>this a Monday afternoon, what is the status as we

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<v Speaker 1>speak about a fourteen year old boy who believes because

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<v Speaker 1>of the culture et cetera, that he's really a girl.

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<v Speaker 1>And what is the what are the laws in Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>that either stop, prohibit, or encourage parents to take a

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<v Speaker 1>child and go through a sexual mutilation. What is the

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<v Speaker 1>current state of the law?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, Bill, And you know you bring up the word

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<v Speaker 2>gender affirming care that phrase right there, I reject that

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<v Speaker 2>because there's nothing affirming or caring about mutilating the body

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<v Speaker 2>of a young person. And so you've got to really

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<v Speaker 2>question parents who are willing to take their child down

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<v Speaker 2>that path. And when you talk about suicide issues, Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>you know other increased suicide issues reflective of this of it. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's because of what you just said. Because after

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<v Speaker 2>they have gone through the process of chemical castration or

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<v Speaker 2>actual physical removal a part of their body that they

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<v Speaker 2>have deep from regret and remorse, and they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no going back from it at that point, and

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<v Speaker 2>so you ask, what can we do in Ohio. Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>We've already done something. We've had Hostile sixty eight. And

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<v Speaker 2>you may recall that that your friend Governor Juwaian detoed

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<v Speaker 2>that bill and then we had to come back as

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<v Speaker 2>a state legislature and come back and override his vetot

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<v Speaker 2>and establish and restore the safety of our under eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>aged people here in Ohio. Now you can still go

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<v Speaker 2>get you can go get the surgery or get the

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<v Speaker 2>chemical castration at age nineteen or age eighteen, but we

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<v Speaker 2>don't allow that in Ohio anymore if you're underage.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, if you're twenty years old and you've been

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the popular culture and you suddenly want to

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<v Speaker 1>go from Bruce Jenner to Missus Jenner and you're over

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<v Speaker 1>the age of eighteen, you can do it. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, look, if that's what you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do with your own body, no other other bodies involved,

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<v Speaker 1>unlike abortion. If you want to go through gender affirming care,

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<v Speaker 1>get hormonal treatment, et cetera, have at it. It's your body.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, but know that this massive study. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>share with you a couple of findings. One massive study

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<v Speaker 1>of more than one hundred and five thousand who had

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<v Speaker 1>gender affirming surgery found some disturbing trends. Published in the

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<v Speaker 1>Journal of Sexual Medicine of the AMA track to one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and seven thousand patients age eighteen and older with

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<v Speaker 1>gender dysphoria, researchers assessed their mental health two years after

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<v Speaker 1>the surgery and found the transgender person suffer from quote

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<v Speaker 1>heightened psychological distress, including depression, anxiety, suicidal ideation, partially due

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<v Speaker 1>to stigma and the lack of gender affirmation. Twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>percent face more depression. There was eleven point five percent

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<v Speaker 1>more suicides, which is said, and similar trends were examined

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<v Speaker 1>for males and females. Alcoholism rates want up, drug use

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<v Speaker 1>one up. In other words, going through the process is

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<v Speaker 1>worse than not going through it. So maybe there's something

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<v Speaker 1>at stake here other than one's genitalia. It could be

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<v Speaker 1>a mental disorder.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think, Well, you know, you bring up

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<v Speaker 2>gender dysphoria, and I believe the studies show that if

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<v Speaker 2>you were experiencing gender dysphoria, that the natural cure for

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<v Speaker 2>that is to go through adolescents, to allow your body

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<v Speaker 2>and your hormones to go through life naturally normally. And

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<v Speaker 2>as you age and as you change through those formative

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<v Speaker 2>adolescent years and the hormones start flowing, that your gender

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<v Speaker 2>dysphoria issues that you previously experienced are naturally going to

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<v Speaker 2>go away. But to your point, if you're twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>and you still want to do this. I'm sorry if

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<v Speaker 2>you're eighteen and you still want to mutilate parts of

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<v Speaker 2>your body. I believe we should allow adults to make

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<v Speaker 2>those kinds of decisions for themselves. I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 2>the right one to make, but the law in Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>allows an eighteen year old to make that. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Sweden a liberal haven. Sweden National Board of Health and

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<v Speaker 1>Welfare sets guidelines for care determined earlier this year that

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<v Speaker 1>the risks of puberty blockers and treatments with hormones quote

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<v Speaker 1>currently outweigh the possible benefits for miners. Therefore it will

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<v Speaker 1>be ceased, and the NHS in England, which is in

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<v Speaker 1>the midst of an independent review of gender identity services,

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<v Speaker 1>recently said there is scares and inconclusive evidence for support

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<v Speaker 1>of clinical decision making for miners with gender dysphor you.

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<v Speaker 1>They stopped it two and so we're about ten years

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<v Speaker 1>behind these so called advanced countries in Sweden, England that

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<v Speaker 1>I've tried this beginning about twenty five years ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're telling us it's not working.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're in California, a representative Adam Bird, or you're

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago, Illinois, or Boston Massachusetts. Guess what, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>free fire zone. In fact, parents have told me Adam

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<v Speaker 1>Bird that if my sixteen year old wants to become

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<v Speaker 1>a different gender, I'd rather have a living son than

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<v Speaker 1>a dead daughter, which is a nice phrase untethered to reality. However,

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<v Speaker 1>the doctor might say has got to be done, the

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<v Speaker 1>children's hospital might say it should be done. The government

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<v Speaker 1>will pay for it. And so if you're in one

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<v Speaker 1>of these blue areas, you're in a difficult situation. Correct

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<v Speaker 1>as a child. And in California, if the child goes

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<v Speaker 1>to school and starts identifying by a different gender and

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<v Speaker 1>wear's different clothing at school, the school can't tell the

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<v Speaker 1>parent what's happening at school. So if you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>blue area, what the hell do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>So you go You got to get out, Billy, You

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<v Speaker 2>got to get to a red state because they are

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<v Speaker 2>not going to protect children the way the state Wihio

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<v Speaker 2>protects them. And recall also bill that in Ohio you

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<v Speaker 2>as a if you're a teacher, you cannot hide the

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<v Speaker 2>gender transporia conversation that you might be having with a

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<v Speaker 2>student from the parent. If you have it one time,

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<v Speaker 2>you know you can have a one time. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you talk more than once about it too, in any

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<v Speaker 2>kind of counseling session, you have to tell the parents.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have a lot of protections here. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the family, and we're not going to allow those kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of things to happen. We have a restroom bill in

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<v Speaker 2>And so we're going to protect the family, protect kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and these blue states aren't doing it right now, Billy,

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<v Speaker 2>And if I was recommending to a parent, get out

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<v Speaker 1>Lastly, on tax increases, the governor proposed lots of new

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<v Speaker 1>The governor wants to double that tax. Is that going

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see it, Billy. I don't know. If you

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<v Speaker 2>watched the governor state of the State of draft yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>Basically he spent about one hundred minutes outlining his priorities

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<v Speaker 2>where he got very tepid applause. And that would include

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<v Speaker 2>additional taxes on cigarettes, additional taxes on marijuana and online gaming,

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<v Speaker 2>and so doubling many of those taxes. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>most Republicans, most conservative leaning people, aren't big on the

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<v Speaker 2>but still I'm not going to support it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he's talking about a one percent tax increase in marijuana,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't drink, I don't use cigarettes, never had

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<v Speaker 1>those up. This is so called the sins In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to punish you for sinful behavior. Does Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>have a revenue problem? What does Ohio have a spending

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<v Speaker 1>problem to increase all these taxes? Which is it do

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<v Speaker 1>we have Do we spend too much or collect too

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I think that we always are concerned about efficiency,

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<v Speaker 2>so the issue of taxing, we we we have reduced

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<v Speaker 2>taxes over the last two general assemblies built. We've reduced

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<v Speaker 2>income taxes for the state of Ohio. And right now,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe our priorities are property taxes, and our property

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<v Speaker 2>taxes are going our skyrocketing because property valuations are skyrocketing,

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<v Speaker 2>best of our ability. I do think that skyrocketing property

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<v Speaker 2>valuations are going to go down because as we experience

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<v Speaker 2>the trump UH years, the trump UH the budget, I

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<v Speaker 2>inflation pressures, and when that drops, I think property valuations

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<v Speaker 2>the short term, we that's got to be our new

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<v Speaker 2>renewed focus in in Columbus. We've taken care of some

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<v Speaker 2>income taxes by dropping them. It's time to bring some

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's probably a lot of Claremont County residents

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<v Speaker 1>And I heard one of your colleagues said there should

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a situation where we have skyrocketing property expenses.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that happening in Claremont County.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Oh my goodness, Bill, yes it is.

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<v Speaker 2>We had one of the highest increases in property valuations

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<v Speaker 2>in the state of Ohio. It was like forty three

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<v Speaker 2>to grandma and grandpa. You know, you've brought up people

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<v Speaker 2>property taxes through opall of their own And you may

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<v Speaker 2>recall back in the presidential election that Kamala Harris talked

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<v Speaker 2>about unrealized capital gains tax. That's essentially what we do

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<v Speaker 2>in Ohio with our property taxes. Bill, if your house,

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<v Speaker 2>and now it's value at two hundred thousand dollars, we're

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<v Speaker 2>even though you've not technically realized any kind of game there.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's something that's got to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hopefully, if the governor doesn't maintains this and wants

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<v Speaker 1>you and the legislature can overrule him, like you did

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<v Speaker 1>on the transgender care. I think Children's Hospital in Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, is complying with state law, which is

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<v Speaker 2>It is, And I believe you're right. I believe that

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio are doing that. Could they be referring to people

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<v Speaker 2>and I suspect there might be some referrals to their

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<v Speaker 2>it's happening here. And and so you know, you got

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you should mention to him about your opposition to

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<v Speaker 1>I will do that next week for the week there after,

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready for Reds baseball coming up a week from Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>But Adam Bird, you're the best out there. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to buy you a hotty Toddy maybe some chicken wings

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you know, I think Governor Dwaine's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in town for Reds opening Day. Maybe you can interviewing

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<v Speaker 2>live or that's something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>He loves to come to Red's opening day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm gonna pin him to the wall on this one. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have a revenue problem. We have collect enough money.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a spending problem in Ohio. That's why. But

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<v Speaker 1>Vake Ramaswami's gonna bring dose to Ohio. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seconds remaining. Do you like the Vike Ramaswami or

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<v Speaker 1>David Joes for governor?

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<v Speaker 2>Like them both? Bill, I don't like tough primaries. These

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<v Speaker 2>are both good conservative men that have that have been

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<v Speaker 2>One's been elected four times statewide and has has defending

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a tough primary for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And Adam Bird, God bless you and God bless America.

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Byrd, thank you very much for coming on the

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Stake Rep.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Great to be with you, sir, love being

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<v Speaker 2>with the great American.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless America. Thank you. Let's continue with more news

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