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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, So how do they know? How do

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<v Speaker 2>they know? Amy?

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<v Speaker 3>How do they know that they're close to their first flight?

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<v Speaker 2>Mike?

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<v Speaker 4>We actually talked to Sandy Steers at Friends of Big

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<v Speaker 4>Bear Valley.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh good, so anywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>Between ten and fourteen weeks, and Gizmo the littler one

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<v Speaker 4>hits ten weeks tomorrow, Sunny's already ten weeks, so they

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<v Speaker 4>could really take off anytime.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, what are they going to go?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, did they leave and then they come back? Do

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<v Speaker 1>they just come home for Thanksgiving?

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<v Speaker 3>They just fall off the nest and it goes, well, when.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they make babies?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they're just still babies themselves. So here's the thing,

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<v Speaker 4>because I had all these questions too, because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>what happens when they leave?

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<v Speaker 2>And you said, just do or die?

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<v Speaker 4>And she says, well, if they don't have a successful flight,

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<v Speaker 4>they just sort of glide and then they'll work their

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<v Speaker 4>way back up to the nest. But sometimes that takes

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<v Speaker 4>a while.

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<v Speaker 5>I was gonna say, how do there's no elevators? How

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<v Speaker 5>do they get back up there if.

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<v Speaker 4>They had to flap away? You got to figure it

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<v Speaker 4>out real quick. And then like take a tail feather

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<v Speaker 4>after they've left, Silly. After they've left, mom and Dad

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<v Speaker 4>still take them food because they don't know how to

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<v Speaker 4>hunt yet. And then they teach them how to funt

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<v Speaker 4>a hunt. And so Jackie and Shadow will sort of

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<v Speaker 4>follow them around and teach them how to hunt and

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<v Speaker 4>take them food.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, this raw flesh doesn't just appear at home.

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<v Speaker 2>You actually have to go out and work for it, exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>go to.

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<v Speaker 1>The Kroger, come home, fry it up in a pan

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<v Speaker 1>or not in their in their situation. Well everyone, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kids just think that food just appears, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>learn an ugly lesson.

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<v Speaker 2>One day.

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<v Speaker 1>You learn that you've got to go out and kill something,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whether it be proverbally or otherwise.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing for verbal about it, right, there's not in

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<v Speaker 2>this case, is there?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>And have you watched them? Have you seen them flapping around?

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<v Speaker 2>I have not. I just saw a still I think

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<v Speaker 2>on the tea news here.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, so it's really fun that they they're practicing now.

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<v Speaker 4>They haven't jumped off the ledge yet, she said, just

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<v Speaker 4>when they're ready, they'll go. But they'll sit and they'll

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<v Speaker 4>flap and flap, and they run across the nest and

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<v Speaker 4>then stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Short of Oh my god, it's like riding a bike

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<v Speaker 1>or jumping into a pool, big milestone.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 6>Great?

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<v Speaker 3>What are you gonna do when they're out of camera shot?

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<v Speaker 2>Me or Shannon? You better be devas.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to, like, you know, go to Michael's

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<v Speaker 1>or something, Michaels and get.

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<v Speaker 2>A stuffed to eat.

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<v Speaker 1>Get it, no, get like a hobby. That's what I

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<v Speaker 1>do when i'm board. I go to Michael's. I pick

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<v Speaker 1>up some sort of craft project. Oh that's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been watching them for like three months. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want you to feel a hole in your heart.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. If only somebody around here would make a

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<v Speaker 2>freaking baby.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, somebody did.

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<v Speaker 3>What who do we need?

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<v Speaker 2>Carlo's daughter had a baby. Oh yeah, well she should

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<v Speaker 2>bring that baby in here. He should. We need to nurture.

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<v Speaker 2>We do need to nurture something. You and I were

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<v Speaker 2>both the big nurtures.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you guys great aunties.

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<v Speaker 4>We do we as I bet much better than mommy, Amy.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that, Mommy Amy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna hold onto that mommy.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, welcome to Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>So the president went to a mosque on his Middle

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<v Speaker 1>East trip, and everybody is up in arms. Oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>he's talking ont of both sides.

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<v Speaker 3>Of his mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to a mosque after all the things he

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<v Speaker 1>said about Muslims. He said that Barack Obama was a Muslim,

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<v Speaker 1>he said that there should be camps that Islam hates us.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just case in point that the president doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>care about religion. I'm sorry to say it. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>way it is. It doesn't mean anything to him to

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<v Speaker 1>go to this mam. He doesn't understand the gravity.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>If he doesn't understand it, he doesn't care to understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>There are people that go through their lives.

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<v Speaker 1>With no religion and they do just fine. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those people.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, you want to believe he's into religion.

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<v Speaker 3>Fine, but he put out a Bible. Fat did he

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<v Speaker 3>put out a.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy to sell it?

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<v Speaker 1>He cares about the almighty dollar. That's what this president

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<v Speaker 1>cares about and that's fine, but let's stop putting him

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<v Speaker 1>into the religious shoe because the foot doesn't fit. If

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<v Speaker 1>he was that much into religion, he would not have

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<v Speaker 1>There's a reason he's the first president not to go

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<v Speaker 1>or to go to a mosque.

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<v Speaker 3>He did say he had a pretty good trip.

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<v Speaker 7>In an amazing four day period. I think like none other,

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<v Speaker 7>there has never been anything like it. Is a great

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<v Speaker 7>relationship with Saudi Arabia, Qatar and UAE has great friendships.

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<v Speaker 7>I can tell you that at the top level, the

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<v Speaker 7>relationship and friendship is really unified at least.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, now, we have to remember back when Barack Obama

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<v Speaker 5>talked about reopening relations with Iran.

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<v Speaker 3>This is should be taken in that same vein.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of people criticized Obama at the time because

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<v Speaker 5>they said that Iran was a terrorist state. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 5>different about that comment from Barack Obama. Although the deal

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<v Speaker 5>that came out of it was ridiculous, there's nothing different

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<v Speaker 5>between that comment from Barack Obama and this trip from

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<v Speaker 5>President Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. Could you imagine if Barack Obama, to your point,

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<v Speaker 1>went to a mosque and said these words, isn't this beautiful?

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<v Speaker 1>It's so beautiful, very proud of my friends. This is

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible culture. We would have been up in arms

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<v Speaker 1>if Barack Obama said that, like, oh, this is proof

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<v Speaker 1>he's a terrorist.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you, let's just take like you said, take this

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<v Speaker 1>all with a grain of salt. But don't but don't

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<v Speaker 1>be hypocritical in thinking that, like look at how look

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<v Speaker 1>at Trump, look at how sure he is embracing another culture.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have lost your damn minds if Barack Obama

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<v Speaker 1>did that, or Biden or any other Democrat. He went

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<v Speaker 1>on to say, this is the first time they've closed

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<v Speaker 1>the mosque for the day.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 2>First time they closed it?

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<v Speaker 3>It's in a hundred of the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, what, oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, if coming from anybody else, you'd be like, what

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<v Speaker 1>team are you on? Bro?

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<v Speaker 4>Bro.

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<v Speaker 3>He went on to say, let's see here.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So he's wearing only socks since shoes are not

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<v Speaker 1>allowed in the mosque. He's given a tour, he's given

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<v Speaker 1>explanations of various features in the building, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then he asks reporters.

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<v Speaker 1>He turns to the reporters and the photographers and he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>is everybody having a good time.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not even a mosque for playing the room.

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<v Speaker 6>Easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he's not playing that room, unfortunately, he's playing our rooms.

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<v Speaker 3>He's playing a room. That's a good points playing a room,

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<v Speaker 3>bro That's what.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what I mean, Like if that came

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<v Speaker 1>from a Barack Obama, we would be like, what's guys,

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<v Speaker 1>We got to dig into this and we go. We

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<v Speaker 1>go through his past, We go through things that he

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<v Speaker 1>had said in the past.

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<v Speaker 3>We go through everything, his relationship with his fot.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>Up next, there was a pretty damning story Wall Street Journal.

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<v Speaker 5>Jonathan Stewart is an air traffic controller and he says

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<v Speaker 5>he averted a mid air collision.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just another pilon of how scared. This scares

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<v Speaker 1>me as somebody who's gonna get on a plane in

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days, but even a person who just

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<v Speaker 1>lives on the ground where the planes fly overhead. The

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<v Speaker 1>state of this system is terrifying. The fact that three

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<v Speaker 1>quarters of the air traffic controller system is obsolete should

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<v Speaker 1>be something we acted on, not yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>But in the late eighties.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, when that stuff started aging, Yeah, is when we

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<v Speaker 5>should have done it. All right, we'll talk about this

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<v Speaker 5>what this Johnathan Stewart has to say about his life

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<v Speaker 5>there as an air.

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<v Speaker 2>Trans Did you see his picture as well? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was troubling too.

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<v Speaker 5>That's fun, and he struck out show Hey O Tani Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>He took the ball and threw it to the dugout

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<v Speaker 1>I love that on show Hey a Tony bobble Night. Nonetheless, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the back of catching.

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<v Speaker 3>You already hit two home runs. Oh that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we're gonna have to spread out with this

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<v Speaker 1>to keep critical technology running. But so often we're just

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<v Speaker 1>getting the headlines and we're not really hearing about the anecdotes.

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<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't really matter if you fly a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if you don't fly a lot, this impacts you

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<v Speaker 1>because it involves planes crashing to the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>And involves others. Oh, look at there's that bird of.

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<v Speaker 1>Prey that we bring in to scare away the ground mites.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's eating something?

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<v Speaker 2>He is eating something? Is it a squirrel? What kind

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<v Speaker 2>of bird is that? Again?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it a hawk? Red? Redtail hawk?

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<v Speaker 2>What is his name? Again?

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<v Speaker 1>Not Nicodemus, that was the adele. But is it the

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<v Speaker 1>Was it Fred Rogan we were walking out with and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, what the hell is that? And the guy's

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<v Speaker 1>the hell's that guy doing as a hawk of some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of okay? And uh and and you said a

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<v Speaker 3>They bring it in?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Bird?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>It's the Renaissance Fair.

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<v Speaker 3>Suddenly, anyway, he's got something out there.

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<v Speaker 5>He's sitting on a street light that's just about level

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and he's uh lunch all right? Well, uh, just

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<v Speaker 3>as easily.

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<v Speaker 1>As we get distracted, so do overworked air traffic controllers.

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<v Speaker 2>And now we're getting anecdotes of.

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<v Speaker 1>Just how this dilapidated system is playing out for people

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<v Speaker 1>that are directing planes in the sky. We've got an

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<v Speaker 1>anim about a near mid air collision. This air traffic

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<v Speaker 1>controller is singing about it. They're not supposed to, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's giving us the details. We'll talk about it when

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<v Speaker 1>we come back.

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<v Speaker 3>Gary and Shannon will continue.

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 6>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 5>A bunch of stories that are going on today, members

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<v Speaker 5>of the Railroad Engineers Union for New Jersey Transit went

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<v Speaker 5>on strike. About three hundred and fifty thousand people a

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<v Speaker 5>shut down. Huge day of severe thunderstorms could be coming today.

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<v Speaker 5>About nine million people from Missouri up through Kentucky under

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<v Speaker 5>a level four of five risk of severe thunderstorms today.

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<v Speaker 5>And did you hear James Comey in this ridiculous post

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<v Speaker 5>that he made about.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is a anyone listening to him or paying attention

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<v Speaker 1>or giving him a microphone?

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<v Speaker 2>And b something scrawled in the sand.

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<v Speaker 5>Is that somehow had the formation of eight six four seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, get rid of the president?

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<v Speaker 3>Now why they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Taking it as a death threat? Is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Okay, why why would you post that? If you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to take that seriously, you're the death threat. But

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<v Speaker 1>you then also think Trump is a terrorist for going

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<v Speaker 1>to a mosque, Like if you're going to be that

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's one of.

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<v Speaker 5>Those things that James Comy should know better as a

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<v Speaker 5>former director of the FBI.

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<v Speaker 3>He needs to know better.

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<v Speaker 2>The chronicle, dumb ass.

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's just it's one of those super frustrating, Like what,

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<v Speaker 5>First of all, the Secret Service and the Department of

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<v Speaker 5>Homeland Security don't need to waste their time by investigating that,

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<v Speaker 5>but they need to make a point by saying, don't

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<v Speaker 5>investigating that.

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<v Speaker 3>Investigating that?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So we're talking about this air traffic controller

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<v Speaker 1>mess that is quickly turning into a disaster, and I

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<v Speaker 1>hope that I am wrong and I am overreacting to this.

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Stewart says he was in his fourth hour of

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<v Speaker 1>overseeing the planes flying near Newark. We've talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>Newark is kind of the hub for this air traffic

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<v Speaker 1>controller mess when it comes to staffing shortages, and I

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<v Speaker 1>believe the planes are monitored out of like Philadelphia or something.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's a they're having to cut down on

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<v Speaker 1>flights because there's just not enough people to monitor them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just indicative of a greater problem there at Newark anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jonathan Stewart is tasked with overseeing planes there. He's

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<v Speaker 1>in his fourth hour and he notices two planes speeding

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<v Speaker 1>nose to nose on his radar. It was a business

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<v Speaker 1>jet that had departed Morristown Airport and was heading toward

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<v Speaker 1>another small plane that had taken off from Teterborough, they say.

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<v Speaker 1>He says a mid air collision was potentially seconds away

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<v Speaker 1>because the planes were flying at the same altitude. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>he had been scribbling call signs for the planes and

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<v Speaker 1>flight information in a note bok and a nope book.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a veteran, by the way, He's had years of

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<v Speaker 1>doing this, and he was doing this scribbling the call

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<v Speaker 1>signs for the planes and flight information handwritten, putting them

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<v Speaker 1>handwritten into a notebook because he was prescient. He felt

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<v Speaker 1>like radar and radio communication was just close to failing

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<v Speaker 5>Because it had failed before it had he was able

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<v Speaker 5>to get them, like you said, to change course. No collision.

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<v Speaker 5>But he fires off an email to the FAA, to

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<v Speaker 5>his bosses and just basically says, the work situation is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>I take my job very seriously as I.

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<v Speaker 5>Do the safety of the flying public, and I take

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<v Speaker 5>pride in my performance. And he said, I do not

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<v Speaker 5>want to be responsible for killing four hundred people.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, there's complaining about your job.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, there's should I really complain about this or should

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<v Speaker 1>I just let it go kind of mentality. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you are responsible for the lives of at least four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred people in the sky alone. It becomes less of

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<v Speaker 1>I just complaining about my job. It's life or death

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<v Speaker 1>for many, many people. And the ripples outwardly of that

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<v Speaker 1>are Could you imagine the stress of that, going to

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<v Speaker 1>work as an air traffic controller system, knowing your equipment

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<v Speaker 1>is antiquated, knowing that there's a potential that you could

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<v Speaker 1>fail at your job because of it and kill all

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<v Speaker 1>those people. I mean, of course they're overstressed. Of course

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<v Speaker 1>it's a job nobody wants. You would be able to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep at night.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, on his case, he's had bouts of these close

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<v Speaker 5>calls that he says are cumulative. You know that the

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<v Speaker 5>PTSD from this is a real side effect of his job.

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<v Speaker 5>Now he's not technically working in an airport tower. He

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<v Speaker 5>actually works as a supervisor at a facility known as

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<v Speaker 5>a traycon terminal radar approach control and in addition to

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<v Speaker 5>handling some of the smaller regional airports in the area,

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<v Speaker 5>like you mentioned the Morristown in Teeterborough, he and Trey

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<v Speaker 5>con oversees planes approaching Newark and he gots to toggle

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<v Speaker 5>between kind of supervising other controllers and then himself taking

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<v Speaker 5>a seat and obsessively tracking all of these. His description

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<v Speaker 5>of it is, it's like a video game, but it's

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<v Speaker 5>like playing three D chess at two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 5>miles an hour. We are the guys guiding your pilot's home.

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<v Speaker 5>He says controllers are not to blame for all of

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<v Speaker 5>the recent delays and disruptions in and out of Newark,

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<v Speaker 5>for example, And he says controllers did not walk off

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<v Speaker 5>the job, as the United Airlines the chief did say

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<v Speaker 5>in a recent letter to customers, now United specifically has

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's set all that aside.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't mean to judge Jonathan Stewart, and I'm not,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's just talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of guy he is.

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<v Speaker 1>He likes to shoot guns at an indoor range where

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<v Speaker 1>he lives just outside of Philly. He enjoys cigars Johnny

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<v Speaker 1>Walker blue, who wouldn't He likes, He is hard charging,

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<v Speaker 1>he's confident, he's brash. He likes to spend time at

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<v Speaker 1>the gym. He likes to ride his motorcycle. And he

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<v Speaker 1>says that the reason he's in air traffic control is

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<v Speaker 1>because the adrenaline rush hooked him.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the job's high stakes. It's effing fun.

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<v Speaker 8>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>You play god because you cannot fail. That's one way

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<v Speaker 1>to look at it.

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<v Speaker 5>One way to look at He's got about a decade

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<v Speaker 5>in the US Air Force, which is where he started

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<v Speaker 5>in air traffic control stuff, and based on his time

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<v Speaker 5>of service and the overtime, he brings in about four

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 1>He says that the stat issue is among the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>problem because on that day in particular, he had already

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<v Speaker 1>been working three hours without a break. If you can

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<v Speaker 1>imagine just three hours of constantly looking at a screen,

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<v Speaker 1>monitoring radar.

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<v Speaker 2>Where is going where?

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<v Speaker 3>Where?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, all of the things that you can imagine

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<v Speaker 1>with coordinating flight paths and things like that, that would drive.

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<v Speaker 2>You kind of crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>If you just had three hours, no break of just

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<v Speaker 1>staring at the screen doing that, I would imagine for

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<v Speaker 1>most people, especially if it was years of doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe one afternoon sounds kind of exciting, like a video game.

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<v Speaker 1>But you keep doing that over and over, you get complacent,

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine. He says, it's easy to lose focus

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<v Speaker 1>and get tired, and he says that controllers should spend

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<v Speaker 1>no more than two hours actively working the traffic. He says,

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<v Speaker 1>like anything else, you're going to have a breaking point.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was working that day for more than three

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<v Speaker 1>hours without a break. So he says the situation is

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<v Speaker 1>has been and continues to be unsafe. The amount of

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<v Speaker 1>stress were under his insurmountable.

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<v Speaker 5>And this program, this problem at Newark isn't going away today.

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<v Speaker 5>For example, they've already had forty five flights canceled and

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred and twenty or so delayed, so it's still

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<v Speaker 5>a problem there in Newark.

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<v Speaker 1>Who wants a fun Friday story, Amy, you might like

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<v Speaker 1>this one.

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<v Speaker 6>I Do, I Do?

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<v Speaker 1>This is a man who sailed from Oregon to Hawaii,

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<v Speaker 1>actually said, f this job. I'm out of here, got

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<v Speaker 1>in his boat going to Hawaii from Oregon. And who

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<v Speaker 1>did he bring with him? Phoenix? Who is Phoenix? Phoenix

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<v Speaker 1>is his cat?

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<v Speaker 4>That's not very nice for the cat.

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<v Speaker 3>He can't get away.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll tell you the story when we come back.

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to Gary and Shannon Demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 6>six forty.

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<v Speaker 5>You're going to be live at Bravery Brewing up in Lancaster.

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<v Speaker 5>Make the trip. It's gonna be worth it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be a.

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<v Speaker 5>Beautiful, beautiful day up there, and we'll kick off Memorial

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<v Speaker 5>Day with the introduction of this year's version of KFIPA

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<v Speaker 5>some fun stuff that we have planned for the show.

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<v Speaker 3>So come on out and say hi.

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<v Speaker 5>The Great Great Pizza, by the way, regularly voted the

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<v Speaker 5>best pizza.

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<v Speaker 3>In the Antelope Valley. It's at Bravery Pizza Kitchen.

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to a friend and he said, have

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<v Speaker 1>you had the pizza at Bravery Brewing? And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you bet your ass I have. And he said, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the best pizza I have ever had. And I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really good pizza. And he goes, no, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>best pizza I ever had. It's really great, And I

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<v Speaker 1>said yeah, I mean the first time I had it there.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's like, you know, you get a little used

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<v Speaker 1>to it, you take it for granted.

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<v Speaker 3>Take it for granted.

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<v Speaker 1>But we are the first time we had a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of that pizza at Bravery Brewing, we looked at each

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<v Speaker 1>other like we're never leaving.

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<v Speaker 2>It is all we.

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<v Speaker 3>Need is They dragged us out of there that day.

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<v Speaker 2>They did and then all over in came the document

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<v Speaker 2>the restraining Arner.

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<v Speaker 5>There is a guy named Oliver Widger, and he actually

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<v Speaker 5>was diagnosed with a syndrome in his back that carries

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<v Speaker 5>the risk of paralysis that he described it as having

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<v Speaker 5>the cervical spine of one hundred and fifteen year old person.

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<v Speaker 5>No disks. They've begun fusing the gather. He's in constant pain.

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<v Speaker 5>He decided at the age of twenty nine he wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>going to take it anymore. He was working as a

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<v Speaker 5>manager at a tire company, required him to be clean shaven,

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<v Speaker 5>to wear pressed shirts all the time. Once he got

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<v Speaker 5>that diagnosis, he said, I got to do something else

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<v Speaker 5>with my life. Liquidates is four to oh one k,

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<v Speaker 5>quits his job, sells everything he has, and buys a sailboat,

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<v Speaker 5>and now Oliver and a rescue cat named Phoenix are

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<v Speaker 5>making their way across the ocean from Oregon where he started.

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<v Speaker 3>To Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 5>Just last night he was on with Anderson Cooper talking

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<v Speaker 5>about life on the Pacific Ocean with his cat Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to rescue cat. How's Phoenix? Then she's doing good.

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<v Speaker 8>It's really it's been really cool to see here because

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<v Speaker 8>I was nervous. She's lived on the boat obviously for

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<v Speaker 8>a year, and boat obviously gone sailing. But I was nervous,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, taking her across an ocean because obviously the

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<v Speaker 8>waves here big boat rocks constantly. But it was after

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<v Speaker 8>two days she went, she became completely like she's threw

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<v Speaker 8>and through a boat cat.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, okay, you gotta love being alone, because that's all

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<v Speaker 5>he is is a I mean argue with bully.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got a cat with him.

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<v Speaker 5>But he's taken to social media and as you can tell,

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<v Speaker 5>he's got a satellite hookup so that he can do

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<v Speaker 5>live interviews with Anderson Cooper. Some of the highlights that

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<v Speaker 5>he talks about, the speed that dolphins swim at, he said,

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<v Speaker 5>amazed him. He found flying fish on the day of

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<v Speaker 5>the boat at one point stretches where there are no

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<v Speaker 5>birds in sight for days. Obviously there's no land And

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<v Speaker 5>it was funny because Anderson Cooper asked him, do you

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<v Speaker 5>have any idea where you are?

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<v Speaker 3>And he looks around and he goes, well, he goes,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no.

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<v Speaker 5>Real landmarks out here in the middle of the Pacific, uh.

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<v Speaker 5>And then he was asked, is there anything that you've learned.

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<v Speaker 5>Is there any you know, grand life lesson that you

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<v Speaker 5>have learned halfway through your journey?

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<v Speaker 3>Specific ocean doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it does not care.

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<v Speaker 3>The ocean doesn't say the ocean. Yeah, No, it doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't care about anything. And uh yeah, is that

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<v Speaker 3>scary or is that liberating?

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<v Speaker 6>This is neither.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it's pure, you know what I mean? If

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<v Speaker 3>it's really like feels it feels sin.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could be like I really wish I

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<v Speaker 1>could be like Oliver, Like I'm just gonna grab my cat,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get in a boat and we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Does Does that sound just so freeing.

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<v Speaker 5>And as free as he is, And clearly is a

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<v Speaker 5>free enough spirit that he can do something like this,

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<v Speaker 5>And he's got enough cash to buy a fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 5>dollars boat and then refit it. And he's creative enough

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<v Speaker 5>because he locked himself in the engine compartment at one

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<v Speaker 5>point and had to pry himself out with it, and

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<v Speaker 5>he's making repairs to the boat on the fly or

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<v Speaker 5>on the sail line.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to Hawaii this year this summer?

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<v Speaker 3>Should I do it this way? Maybe?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe run this by the wife say hey, she would say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll meet you there.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to say two of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you did you think for one second?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that your wife would entertain getting in a

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<v Speaker 1>boat with you and a cat.

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<v Speaker 3>And she would never let me take my dog.

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<v Speaker 5>She would never let me take Peter on a boat

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<v Speaker 5>for the three week out, or how Peter.

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<v Speaker 2>Would love it? Are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 1>If there is a dog meant for a boat trip

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<v Speaker 1>from Oregon to a.

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<v Speaker 5>Terrier, the word terrier means Earth, means land. Ah, that's

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<v Speaker 5>not his thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Wah, just give me the wine.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, guys, video gamers, you can be heroes. We'll tell

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<v Speaker 5>you how when we come back to Gary and Shannon.

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<v Speaker 3>You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.

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<v Speaker 5>You can always hear us live on KFI AM six

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<v Speaker 5>forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,

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<v Speaker 5>and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio lap
