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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, So how do they know? How do
Speaker 2: they know? Amy?
Speaker 3: How do they know that they're close to their first flight?
Speaker 2: Mike?
Speaker 4: We actually talked to Sandy Steers at Friends of Big
Speaker 4: Bear Valley.
Speaker 2: Oh good, so anywhere.
Speaker 4: Between ten and fourteen weeks, and Gizmo the littler one
Speaker 4: hits ten weeks tomorrow, Sunny's already ten weeks, so they
Speaker 4: could really take off anytime.
Speaker 3: Now, what are they going to go?
Speaker 1: Yeah, did they leave and then they come back? Do
Speaker 1: they just come home for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3: They just fall off the nest and it goes, well, when.
Speaker 2: Do they make babies?
Speaker 4: Well, they're just still babies themselves. So here's the thing,
Speaker 4: because I had all these questions too, because I'm like,
Speaker 4: what happens when they leave?
Speaker 2: And you said, just do or die?
Speaker 4: And she says, well, if they don't have a successful flight,
Speaker 4: they just sort of glide and then they'll work their
Speaker 4: way back up to the nest. But sometimes that takes
Speaker 4: a while.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, how do there's no elevators? How
Speaker 5: do they get back up there if.
Speaker 4: They had to flap away? You got to figure it
Speaker 4: out real quick. And then like take a tail feather
Speaker 4: after they've left, Silly. After they've left, mom and Dad
Speaker 4: still take them food because they don't know how to
Speaker 4: hunt yet. And then they teach them how to funt
Speaker 4: a hunt. And so Jackie and Shadow will sort of
Speaker 4: follow them around and teach them how to hunt and
Speaker 4: take them food.
Speaker 1: They're like, this raw flesh doesn't just appear at home.
Speaker 2: You actually have to go out and work for it, exactly,
Speaker 2: go to.
Speaker 1: The Kroger, come home, fry it up in a pan
Speaker 1: or not in their in their situation. Well everyone, you know,
Speaker 1: kids just think that food just appears, you know, and
Speaker 1: learn an ugly lesson.
Speaker 2: One day.
Speaker 1: You learn that you've got to go out and kill something,
Speaker 1: you know, whether it be proverbally or otherwise.
Speaker 2: There's nothing for verbal about it, right, there's not in
Speaker 2: this case, is there?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: And have you watched them? Have you seen them flapping around?
Speaker 2: I have not. I just saw a still I think
Speaker 2: on the tea news here.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, so it's really fun that they they're practicing now.
Speaker 4: They haven't jumped off the ledge yet, she said, just
Speaker 4: when they're ready, they'll go. But they'll sit and they'll
Speaker 4: flap and flap, and they run across the nest and
Speaker 4: then stop.
Speaker 1: Short of Oh my god, it's like riding a bike
Speaker 1: or jumping into a pool, big milestone.
Speaker 3: What are you doing?
Speaker 6: Great?
Speaker 3: What are you gonna do when they're out of camera shot?
Speaker 2: Me or Shannon? You better be devas.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to, like, you know, go to Michael's
Speaker 1: or something, Michaels and get.
Speaker 2: A stuffed to eat.
Speaker 1: Get it, no, get like a hobby. That's what I
Speaker 1: do when i'm board. I go to Michael's. I pick
Speaker 1: up some sort of craft project. Oh that's a good idea.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: I've been watching them for like three months. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't want you to feel a hole in your heart.
Speaker 2: I know. If only somebody around here would make a
Speaker 2: freaking baby.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, somebody did.
Speaker 3: What who do we need?
Speaker 2: Carlo's daughter had a baby. Oh yeah, well she should
Speaker 2: bring that baby in here. He should. We need to nurture.
Speaker 2: We do need to nurture something. You and I were
Speaker 2: both the big nurtures.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys great aunties.
Speaker 4: We do we as I bet much better than mommy, Amy.
Speaker 2: I like that, Mommy Amy.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna hold onto that mommy.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, welcome to Friday.
Speaker 1: So the president went to a mosque on his Middle
Speaker 1: East trip, and everybody is up in arms. Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: he's talking ont of both sides.
Speaker 3: Of his mouth.
Speaker 1: He's going to a mosque after all the things he
Speaker 1: said about Muslims. He said that Barack Obama was a Muslim,
Speaker 1: he said that there should be camps that Islam hates us.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: This is just case in point that the president doesn't
Speaker 1: care about religion. I'm sorry to say it. It's the
Speaker 1: way it is. It doesn't mean anything to him to
Speaker 1: go to this mam. He doesn't understand the gravity.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: If he doesn't understand it, he doesn't care to understand it.
Speaker 2: And that's fine.
Speaker 3: There are people that go through their lives.
Speaker 1: With no religion and they do just fine. And he's
Speaker 1: one of those people.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like, you want to believe he's into religion.
Speaker 3: Fine, but he put out a Bible. Fat did he
Speaker 3: put out a.
Speaker 2: Boy to sell it?
Speaker 1: He cares about the almighty dollar. That's what this president
Speaker 1: cares about and that's fine, but let's stop putting him
Speaker 1: into the religious shoe because the foot doesn't fit. If
Speaker 1: he was that much into religion, he would not have
Speaker 1: There's a reason he's the first president not to go
Speaker 1: or to go to a mosque.
Speaker 3: He did say he had a pretty good trip.
Speaker 7: In an amazing four day period. I think like none other,
Speaker 7: there has never been anything like it. Is a great
Speaker 7: relationship with Saudi Arabia, Qatar and UAE has great friendships.
Speaker 7: I can tell you that at the top level, the
Speaker 7: relationship and friendship is really unified at least.
Speaker 5: Okay, now, we have to remember back when Barack Obama
Speaker 5: talked about reopening relations with Iran.
Speaker 3: This is should be taken in that same vein.
Speaker 5: A lot of people criticized Obama at the time because
Speaker 5: they said that Iran was a terrorist state. There's nothing
Speaker 5: different about that comment from Barack Obama. Although the deal
Speaker 5: that came out of it was ridiculous, there's nothing different
Speaker 5: between that comment from Barack Obama and this trip from
Speaker 5: President Trump.
Speaker 1: Uh. Could you imagine if Barack Obama, to your point,
Speaker 1: went to a mosque and said these words, isn't this beautiful?
Speaker 1: It's so beautiful, very proud of my friends. This is
Speaker 1: an incredible culture. We would have been up in arms
Speaker 1: if Barack Obama said that, like, oh, this is proof
Speaker 1: he's a terrorist.
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like you, let's just take like you said, take this
Speaker 1: all with a grain of salt. But don't but don't
Speaker 1: be hypocritical in thinking that, like look at how look
Speaker 1: at Trump, look at how sure he is embracing another culture.
Speaker 1: It would have lost your damn minds if Barack Obama
Speaker 1: did that, or Biden or any other Democrat. He went
Speaker 1: on to say, this is the first time they've closed
Speaker 1: the mosque for the day.
Speaker 3: Is that true?
Speaker 2: First time they closed it?
Speaker 3: It's in a hundred of the United States.
Speaker 2: I think, what, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: Again, if coming from anybody else, you'd be like, what
Speaker 1: team are you on? Bro?
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 3: He went on to say, let's see here.
Speaker 1: Okay, So he's wearing only socks since shoes are not
Speaker 1: allowed in the mosque. He's given a tour, he's given
Speaker 1: explanations of various features in the building, and.
Speaker 3: Then he asks reporters.
Speaker 1: He turns to the reporters and the photographers and he goes,
Speaker 1: is everybody having a good time.
Speaker 3: That's not even a mosque for playing the room.
Speaker 6: Easy.
Speaker 1: Well, he's not playing that room, unfortunately, he's playing our rooms.
Speaker 3: He's playing a room. That's a good points playing a room,
Speaker 3: bro That's what.
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, Like if that came
Speaker 1: from a Barack Obama, we would be like, what's guys,
Speaker 1: We got to dig into this and we go. We
Speaker 1: go through his past, We go through things that he
Speaker 1: had said in the past.
Speaker 3: We go through everything, his relationship with his fot.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 5: Up next, there was a pretty damning story Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 5: Jonathan Stewart is an air traffic controller and he says
Speaker 5: he averted a mid air collision.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just another pilon of how scared. This scares
Speaker 1: me as somebody who's gonna get on a plane in
Speaker 1: a couple of days, but even a person who just
Speaker 1: lives on the ground where the planes fly overhead. The
Speaker 1: state of this system is terrifying. The fact that three
Speaker 1: quarters of the air traffic controller system is obsolete should
Speaker 1: be something we acted on, not yesterday.
Speaker 3: But in the late eighties.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when that stuff started aging, Yeah, is when we
Speaker 5: should have done it. All right, we'll talk about this
Speaker 5: what this Johnathan Stewart has to say about his life
Speaker 5: there as an air.
Speaker 2: Trans Did you see his picture as well? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that was troubling too.
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Speaker 5: That's one thing of all the games I've ever been to,
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Speaker 5: Clayton Kershaw penciled in, by the way, to make his
Speaker 5: season debut tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're gonna have to spread out with this
Speaker 1: one because we've talked about the FAA recently We've talked
Speaker 1: about the struggle to fully staff air traffic facilities. We've
Speaker 1: talked about the dilapidated nature of these air traffic facilities
Speaker 1: to keep critical technology running. But so often we're just
Speaker 1: getting the headlines and we're not really hearing about the anecdotes.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't really matter if you fly a lot.
Speaker 1: Even if you don't fly a lot, this impacts you
Speaker 1: because it involves planes crashing to the ground.
Speaker 3: And involves others. Oh, look at there's that bird of.
Speaker 1: Prey that we bring in to scare away the ground mites.
Speaker 2: Do you see him?
Speaker 3: And he's eating something?
Speaker 2: He is eating something? Is it a squirrel? What kind
Speaker 2: of bird is that? Again?
Speaker 3: Is it a hawk? Red? Redtail hawk?
Speaker 2: What is his name? Again?
Speaker 1: Not Nicodemus, that was the adele. But is it the
Speaker 1: same guy that has Nicodemus that also has this bird?
Speaker 1: Was it Fred Rogan we were walking out with and
Speaker 1: he said, what the hell is that? And the guy's
Speaker 1: walking around with this redtailed hawk on his shoulder. What
Speaker 1: the hell's that guy doing as a hawk of some
Speaker 1: kind of okay? And uh and and you said a
Speaker 1: very matter of facty to Fred, Oh, the building hires
Speaker 1: this guy to bring his big ass bird in to
Speaker 1: scare away the other birds and the and the ground mites.
Speaker 1: And Fred goes with, I don't know, I made that
Speaker 1: up because I can't. I can't figure out. I couldn't
Speaker 1: figure out what that word was, so I went with
Speaker 1: ground mites. And Fred's like, what the hell kind of
Speaker 1: place we work at?
Speaker 3: They bring it in?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: Bird?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: It's the Renaissance Fair.
Speaker 3: Suddenly, anyway, he's got something out there.
Speaker 5: He's sitting on a street light that's just about level
Speaker 5: with our window right here.
Speaker 3: Yes, and he's uh lunch all right? Well, uh, just
Speaker 3: as easily.
Speaker 1: As we get distracted, so do overworked air traffic controllers.
Speaker 2: And now we're getting anecdotes of.
Speaker 1: Just how this dilapidated system is playing out for people
Speaker 1: that are directing planes in the sky. We've got an
Speaker 1: anim about a near mid air collision. This air traffic
Speaker 1: controller is singing about it. They're not supposed to, but
Speaker 1: he's giving us the details. We'll talk about it when
Speaker 1: we come back.
Speaker 3: Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 6: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 6: AM six forty.
Speaker 5: A bunch of stories that are going on today, members
Speaker 5: of the Railroad Engineers Union for New Jersey Transit went
Speaker 5: on strike. About three hundred and fifty thousand people a
Speaker 5: day rely on New Jersey transits, so they have been
Speaker 5: shut down. Huge day of severe thunderstorms could be coming today.
Speaker 5: About nine million people from Missouri up through Kentucky under
Speaker 5: a level four of five risk of severe thunderstorms today.
Speaker 5: And did you hear James Comey in this ridiculous post
Speaker 5: that he made about.
Speaker 1: Why is a anyone listening to him or paying attention
Speaker 1: or giving him a microphone?
Speaker 2: And b something scrawled in the sand.
Speaker 5: Is that somehow had the formation of eight six four seven.
Speaker 2: Okay, get rid of the president?
Speaker 3: Now why they're.
Speaker 2: Taking it as a death threat? Is that right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, why why would you post that? If you're
Speaker 1: going to take that seriously, you're the death threat. But
Speaker 1: you then also think Trump is a terrorist for going
Speaker 1: to a mosque, Like if you're going to be that
Speaker 1: overreactive with your thinking.
Speaker 3: It's it's one of.
Speaker 5: Those things that James Comy should know better as a
Speaker 5: former director of the FBI.
Speaker 3: He needs to know better.
Speaker 2: The chronicle, dumb ass.
Speaker 5: It's it's just it's one of those super frustrating, Like what,
Speaker 5: First of all, the Secret Service and the Department of
Speaker 5: Homeland Security don't need to waste their time by investigating that,
Speaker 5: but they need to make a point by saying, don't
Speaker 5: investigating that.
Speaker 3: Investigating that?
Speaker 1: All right, So we're talking about this air traffic controller
Speaker 1: mess that is quickly turning into a disaster, and I
Speaker 1: hope that I am wrong and I am overreacting to this.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Stewart says he was in his fourth hour of
Speaker 1: overseeing the planes flying near Newark. We've talked about how
Speaker 1: Newark is kind of the hub for this air traffic
Speaker 1: controller mess when it comes to staffing shortages, and I
Speaker 1: believe the planes are monitored out of like Philadelphia or something.
Speaker 1: It's just it's a they're having to cut down on
Speaker 1: flights because there's just not enough people to monitor them.
Speaker 1: It's just indicative of a greater problem there at Newark anyway.
Speaker 1: So Jonathan Stewart is tasked with overseeing planes there. He's
Speaker 1: in his fourth hour and he notices two planes speeding
Speaker 1: nose to nose on his radar. It was a business
Speaker 1: jet that had departed Morristown Airport and was heading toward
Speaker 1: another small plane that had taken off from Teterborough, they say.
Speaker 1: He says a mid air collision was potentially seconds away
Speaker 1: because the planes were flying at the same altitude. Now,
Speaker 1: he had been scribbling call signs for the planes and
Speaker 1: flight information in a note bok and a nope book.
Speaker 1: He's a veteran, by the way, He's had years of
Speaker 1: doing this, and he was doing this scribbling the call
Speaker 1: signs for the planes and flight information handwritten, putting them
Speaker 1: handwritten into a notebook because he was prescient. He felt
Speaker 1: like radar and radio communication was just close to failing
Speaker 1: at any time.
Speaker 5: Because it had failed before it had he was able
Speaker 5: to get them, like you said, to change course. No collision.
Speaker 5: But he fires off an email to the FAA, to
Speaker 5: his bosses and just basically says, the work situation is ridiculous.
Speaker 3: I take my job very seriously as I.
Speaker 5: Do the safety of the flying public, and I take
Speaker 5: pride in my performance. And he said, I do not
Speaker 5: want to be responsible for killing four hundred people.
Speaker 2: Right, there's complaining about your job.
Speaker 1: Right, there's should I really complain about this or should
Speaker 1: I just let it go kind of mentality. But when
Speaker 1: you are responsible for the lives of at least four
Speaker 1: hundred people in the sky alone. It becomes less of
Speaker 1: I just complaining about my job. It's life or death
Speaker 1: for many, many people. And the ripples outwardly of that
Speaker 1: are Could you imagine the stress of that, going to
Speaker 1: work as an air traffic controller system, knowing your equipment
Speaker 1: is antiquated, knowing that there's a potential that you could
Speaker 1: fail at your job because of it and kill all
Speaker 1: those people. I mean, of course they're overstressed. Of course
Speaker 1: it's a job nobody wants. You would be able to
Speaker 1: sleep at night.
Speaker 5: Well, on his case, he's had bouts of these close
Speaker 5: calls that he says are cumulative. You know that the
Speaker 5: PTSD from this is a real side effect of his job.
Speaker 5: Now he's not technically working in an airport tower. He
Speaker 5: actually works as a supervisor at a facility known as
Speaker 5: a traycon terminal radar approach control and in addition to
Speaker 5: handling some of the smaller regional airports in the area,
Speaker 5: like you mentioned the Morristown in Teeterborough, he and Trey
Speaker 5: con oversees planes approaching Newark and he gots to toggle
Speaker 5: between kind of supervising other controllers and then himself taking
Speaker 5: a seat and obsessively tracking all of these. His description
Speaker 5: of it is, it's like a video game, but it's
Speaker 5: like playing three D chess at two hundred and fifty
Speaker 5: miles an hour. We are the guys guiding your pilot's home.
Speaker 5: He says controllers are not to blame for all of
Speaker 5: the recent delays and disruptions in and out of Newark,
Speaker 5: for example, And he says controllers did not walk off
Speaker 5: the job, as the United Airlines the chief did say
Speaker 5: in a recent letter to customers, now United specifically has
Speaker 5: buy in because they use Newark as one of their
Speaker 5: hubs for the East Coast.
Speaker 3: Well, let's set all that aside.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean to judge Jonathan Stewart, and I'm not,
Speaker 1: but let's just talk about.
Speaker 2: What kind of guy he is.
Speaker 1: He likes to shoot guns at an indoor range where
Speaker 1: he lives just outside of Philly. He enjoys cigars Johnny
Speaker 1: Walker blue, who wouldn't He likes, He is hard charging,
Speaker 1: he's confident, he's brash. He likes to spend time at
Speaker 1: the gym. He likes to ride his motorcycle. And he
Speaker 1: says that the reason he's in air traffic control is
Speaker 1: because the adrenaline rush hooked him.
Speaker 2: It's the job's high stakes. It's effing fun.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 1: You play god because you cannot fail. That's one way
Speaker 1: to look at it.
Speaker 5: One way to look at He's got about a decade
Speaker 5: in the US Air Force, which is where he started
Speaker 5: in air traffic control stuff, and based on his time
Speaker 5: of service and the overtime, he brings in about four
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 1: He says that the stat issue is among the biggest
Speaker 1: problem because on that day in particular, he had already
Speaker 1: been working three hours without a break. If you can
Speaker 1: imagine just three hours of constantly looking at a screen,
Speaker 1: monitoring radar.
Speaker 2: Where is going where?
Speaker 3: Where?
Speaker 1: You know, all of the things that you can imagine
Speaker 1: with coordinating flight paths and things like that, that would drive.
Speaker 2: You kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: If you just had three hours, no break of just
Speaker 1: staring at the screen doing that, I would imagine for
Speaker 1: most people, especially if it was years of doing that,
Speaker 1: maybe one afternoon sounds kind of exciting, like a video game.
Speaker 1: But you keep doing that over and over, you get complacent,
Speaker 1: I would imagine. He says, it's easy to lose focus
Speaker 1: and get tired, and he says that controllers should spend
Speaker 1: no more than two hours actively working the traffic. He says,
Speaker 1: like anything else, you're going to have a breaking point.
Speaker 1: And he was working that day for more than three
Speaker 1: hours without a break. So he says the situation is
Speaker 1: has been and continues to be unsafe. The amount of
Speaker 1: stress were under his insurmountable.
Speaker 5: And this program, this problem at Newark isn't going away today.
Speaker 5: For example, they've already had forty five flights canceled and
Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty or so delayed, so it's still
Speaker 5: a problem there in Newark.
Speaker 1: Who wants a fun Friday story, Amy, you might like
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 6: I Do, I Do?
Speaker 1: This is a man who sailed from Oregon to Hawaii,
Speaker 1: actually said, f this job. I'm out of here, got
Speaker 1: in his boat going to Hawaii from Oregon. And who
Speaker 1: did he bring with him? Phoenix? Who is Phoenix? Phoenix
Speaker 1: is his cat?
Speaker 4: That's not very nice for the cat.
Speaker 3: He can't get away.
Speaker 2: We'll tell you the story when we come back.
Speaker 6: You're listening to Gary and Shannon Demand from KFI AM
Speaker 6: six forty.
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Speaker 1: I was talking to a friend and he said, have
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Speaker 1: But we are the first time we had a piece
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Speaker 2: It is all we.
Speaker 3: Need is They dragged us out of there that day.
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Speaker 2: the restraining Arner.
Speaker 5: There is a guy named Oliver Widger, and he actually
Speaker 5: was diagnosed with a syndrome in his back that carries
Speaker 5: the risk of paralysis that he described it as having
Speaker 5: the cervical spine of one hundred and fifteen year old person.
Speaker 5: No disks. They've begun fusing the gather. He's in constant pain.
Speaker 5: He decided at the age of twenty nine he wasn't
Speaker 5: going to take it anymore. He was working as a
Speaker 5: manager at a tire company, required him to be clean shaven,
Speaker 5: to wear pressed shirts all the time. Once he got
Speaker 5: that diagnosis, he said, I got to do something else
Speaker 5: with my life. Liquidates is four to oh one k,
Speaker 5: quits his job, sells everything he has, and buys a sailboat,
Speaker 5: and now Oliver and a rescue cat named Phoenix are
Speaker 5: making their way across the ocean from Oregon where he started.
Speaker 3: To Hawaii.
Speaker 5: Just last night he was on with Anderson Cooper talking
Speaker 5: about life on the Pacific Ocean with his cat Phoenix.
Speaker 3: You've got to rescue cat. How's Phoenix? Then she's doing good.
Speaker 8: It's really it's been really cool to see here because
Speaker 8: I was nervous. She's lived on the boat obviously for
Speaker 8: a year, and boat obviously gone sailing. But I was nervous,
Speaker 8: you know, taking her across an ocean because obviously the
Speaker 8: waves here big boat rocks constantly. But it was after
Speaker 8: two days she went, she became completely like she's threw
Speaker 8: and through a boat cat.
Speaker 5: Now, okay, you gotta love being alone, because that's all
Speaker 5: he is is a I mean argue with bully.
Speaker 3: He's got a cat with him.
Speaker 5: But he's taken to social media and as you can tell,
Speaker 5: he's got a satellite hookup so that he can do
Speaker 5: live interviews with Anderson Cooper. Some of the highlights that
Speaker 5: he talks about, the speed that dolphins swim at, he said,
Speaker 5: amazed him. He found flying fish on the day of
Speaker 5: the boat at one point stretches where there are no
Speaker 5: birds in sight for days. Obviously there's no land And
Speaker 5: it was funny because Anderson Cooper asked him, do you
Speaker 5: have any idea where you are?
Speaker 3: And he looks around and he goes, well, he goes,
Speaker 3: there's no.
Speaker 5: Real landmarks out here in the middle of the Pacific, uh.
Speaker 5: And then he was asked, is there anything that you've learned.
Speaker 5: Is there any you know, grand life lesson that you
Speaker 5: have learned halfway through your journey?
Speaker 3: Specific ocean doesn't care.
Speaker 2: No, it does not care.
Speaker 3: The ocean doesn't say the ocean. Yeah, No, it doesn't care.
Speaker 3: It doesn't care about anything. And uh yeah, is that
Speaker 3: scary or is that liberating?
Speaker 6: This is neither.
Speaker 3: I guess it's pure, you know what I mean? If
Speaker 3: it's really like feels it feels sin.
Speaker 1: I wish I could be like I really wish I
Speaker 1: could be like Oliver, Like I'm just gonna grab my cat,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get in a boat and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: Does Does that sound just so freeing.
Speaker 5: And as free as he is, And clearly is a
Speaker 5: free enough spirit that he can do something like this,
Speaker 5: And he's got enough cash to buy a fifty thousand
Speaker 5: dollars boat and then refit it. And he's creative enough
Speaker 5: because he locked himself in the engine compartment at one
Speaker 5: point and had to pry himself out with it, and
Speaker 5: he's making repairs to the boat on the fly or
Speaker 5: on the sail line.
Speaker 2: You're going to Hawaii this year this summer?
Speaker 3: Should I do it this way? Maybe?
Speaker 1: Maybe run this by the wife say hey, she would say,
Speaker 1: I'll meet you there.
Speaker 3: You don't have to say two of us.
Speaker 2: Well you did you think for one second?
Speaker 1: I thought that your wife would entertain getting in a
Speaker 1: boat with you and a cat.
Speaker 3: And she would never let me take my dog.
Speaker 5: She would never let me take Peter on a boat
Speaker 5: for the three week out, or how Peter.
Speaker 2: Would love it? Are you kidding?
Speaker 1: If there is a dog meant for a boat trip
Speaker 1: from Oregon to a.
Speaker 5: Terrier, the word terrier means Earth, means land. Ah, that's
Speaker 5: not his thing.
Speaker 2: Wah, just give me the wine.
Speaker 5: Hey, guys, video gamers, you can be heroes. We'll tell
Speaker 5: you how when we come back to Gary and Shannon.
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