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Speaker 1: M I Wall Street line, shackle change, Oh weesome, girdy,

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it's calling my name. There is no mercy and it's

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been a century. Juice as the huge stream game Rango three,

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I'm here by.

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Speaker 2: Me to die.

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Speaker 3: Inside these walls.

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Speaker 4: Inside the wild.

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Speaker 3: And went no girl as I.

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Speaker 5: Hey everyone, and welcome back to Bloody Angola, a podcast

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one hundred and forty two years in the making, the

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complete story of America's bloodiest prison. I'm Jim Chapman, and

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today I have a current news story for you that

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is everywhere in the state of Louisiana and has been

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picked up nationally a lot of your major news networks

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talking about this. It perfectly fits a podcast based around

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and that is the largest prison escape on record in

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Louisiana history going on right now, and we're going to

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talk about it today. What happened? Who is still on

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the loose? What did they do? I've got all the deats,

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So I'm going to take you back to the morning

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of Friday, May sixteenth, at eight thirty am, and during

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a head count at the Orleans Parish Prison, correctional officers

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noticed that a mind blowing, mind blowing ten prisoners were

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missing from a head count, which I can only imagine

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the what the fuck thoughts were going through these officials

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heads at this point. Now, at nine o'clock am, the

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Sheriff of Orleans Parish, Susan Hudson, she is notified. And

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I can only imagine being the guy who had to

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make that call. Could you imagine having to call the

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Sheriff of Orleans Parish and say, I don't know how

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to tell you this, but we're missing ten prisoners. And y'all,

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these were not people that were arrested for jaywalking. Most

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of these guys were in the New Orleans Parish prison

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awaiting trial for murder. So I'm gonna go over with

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you who escaped and what they were in prison for

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right now. Derek Groves was convicted of a double murder

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convicted in a twenty eighteen Marti Gras mass shooting. Corey

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Boyd is accused of second degree murder in a twenty

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twenty three shooting of a guy by the name of

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Brandon Fees during a car burglary. Jermaine Donald, who is

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facing second degree murder charges in aggravated battery charges, Gary Price,

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who was being held for attempted first degree murder Kendall Miles,

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and this guy has a long history of escape. He

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was accused of shooting a man in Uptown, New Orleans.

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Antwine Massey who also has a history of escape, his

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dating back to two thousand and seven. He's been escaping prisons.

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He was being held for domestic violence, theft, kidnapping, and

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rape as well as a parole violation. Lenton van Buren

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he was being held for firearm possession and parole violations,

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and he's accused of a twenty twenty one murder. Leo

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Tate he was booked for burglary and weapons possession. Robert

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Moody he was facing charges for obstruction of justice, drug trafficking,

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and battery. And to Keenan Dennis who was being held

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for arm robbery and weapons chargers. So these guys are

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not people you want on the street obviously. And as

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I said, they discovered these guys were missing in what's

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the first thing they do, Well, they go look at

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the surveillance cameras throughout Orleans Parish prison. And I'm sure

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most of you listening to this have seen throughout social

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media and if you haven't, go google it. But you've

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seen this escape video from OPB. These guys yanked open

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a door cell, they removed a toilet, and then they

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navigate through a maintenance area. From there, they enter a hallway,

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exit a supply door, scale a wall, and you can

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see them literally breaking out of prison and it's like

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nothing you've ever seen in your life. It looks like

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a movie. Just a ton of them just keep coming

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and going through this door. Ten of these guys. Now,

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they didn't just escape. They wanted to do a little

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comic relief, kind of a rub in the face of

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these officials. So during their escape, they decide they're gonna

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graffiti the wall around the toilet that they pulled out

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and went through the hole behind it. And so they

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write the words quote too easy, lol. They also write

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quote catch us when you can, and they also write

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quote most hated nine. And they had a bunch of

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profanity mixed in there as well, talk about adding insult

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to injury to the Orleans Bears prison officials. Now, of course,

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news gets out quick, and Fox eight in New Orleans

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actually receives a tip and they put it out there.

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At ten point fifteen am, there was this big escape

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at Orleans Parish Prison. And this is before the public

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was even made aware of it by officials. Three minutes later,

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at ten eighteen, the Orleans Parish Sheriff's Office realizes this

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has gotten out and somebody had scooped that story, and

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they confirm it. And of course, not only is this

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a public emergency at this point, but it's also a

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political emergency. At this point, the Orleans Parish Sheriff's Office,

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they hold their first news conference. Here's what that sounded up.

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Speaker 6: I want to speak directly to the people of New

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Orleans about a very serious and unacceptable situation. Earlier today,

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the Orleans Parish Sheriff's Office discovered that multiple incarcerated individuals escape.

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People of New Orleans both for being here. I want

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to speak directly to the people of New Orleans about

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a very serious and unacceptable situation. Earlier today, the Orleans

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Paris Sheriff's Office discovered that multiple incarcerated individuals escaped from custody.

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What we know right now is that during a retine

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headcount at eight thirty this morning, it was determined that

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several detainees were unaccounted for. Immediately upon discovery, OPSO activated

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emergency protocols and launched a coordinated response to locate and

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return these individuals to custody.

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Speaker 4: We are actively working.

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Speaker 6: With local, state, and federal law enforcement agencies in a

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full scale search operation.

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Speaker 4: While we are in.

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Speaker 6: The process of confirming specific details and identities, we are

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urging the public to remain alert. If you see anything

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suspicious or have any information that may assist in locating

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these escapees, please contact law enforcement immediately and we're going

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to give you some contact information. Do not engage or

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approach these subjects. To be accountable and transparent, we are

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launching a full investigation to determine how this escape occurred,

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including reviewing facility protocols, staff performance, and physical security measures.

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Any lapses or failures that contributed to this incident will

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be addressed swiftly and with full accountability.

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Speaker 4: The next steps are.

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Speaker 6: That OPSO will continue to provide updates to the media

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and public as the investigation progresses and more facts become available.

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We are committed to transparency throughout this process and will

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not rest until all of these individuals are back in

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our custody. I'm going to turn this over now to

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Chief Christopher Goodley, who is over our Field Operations Bureau,

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to talk about how the hunt for these folks is

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going on.

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Speaker 7: Good morning, on and thank you so earlier this morning

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we weren't other five of approximately eleven individuals that had

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breached our escape our custody. Those individuals right now will

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name so one thre eleven and Twine Massey.

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Speaker 5: All of these are adult males, if you.

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Speaker 8: Will, Lynton Van Buren, Jermaine Donald, Leo Tate, Kendall Miles,

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Derek Grooves, Cory Boyd, Gary Price, Robert Moody, the Cannon,

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Dennis and Keith Lewis. All of those suspects are considered

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to be armed and dangerous. So anybody with information will

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encouraged to see something, say something and let us know

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called crime Stoppers or nine one one immediately if you

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see any of these individuals, we want them to return

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them back to justice immediately.

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Speaker 6: I'm now going to turn it over to Major Silace

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Slips Junior, who was the leader of the Investigative Services Bureau,

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to talk a little bit about the ongoing investigation.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, CHERYV. Good morning.

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Speaker 9: I'm going to be very brief, so we do have

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information on when the subjects left our custody.

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Speaker 5: We are working every angle.

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Speaker 9: At this point as the sheriff said, with all of

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our local, state, and federal partners to get them back

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into custody. I just want to remind the public and

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anyone that may be assisting them that if we identify

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you and can prove that you are assisting them, we

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will prosecute you along with them to the fullest extent

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of the law. We will provide additional information from the

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investigatory side as it becomes available, which will include a timeline.

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I know Chief Goodly already mentioned the names. We will

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also be providing you those photographs, and we ask that

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you keep those plastered out throughout all of the new

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stations that are here.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Major.

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Speaker 6: We will be disseminating the photos of these individuals as well.

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priority right now is the safety of the public and

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returning these individuals to our custody without delay.

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Speaker 4: I want to thank our.

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Speaker 6: Deputies and our law enforcement partners who were working around

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the clock to resolve this matter. We asked for the

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community's vigilance and cooperation during this process, and I want

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to just emphasize something else. Major said, anyone who helped

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or contributed to this escape will be held countable to

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the fullest extent of the law.

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Speaker 5: In a couple of things about what you just heard then,

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I'm sure you noticed they mentioned eleven escapees. Well, they

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found out shortly later that one of those men, a

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guy by the name of Keith Lewis that they mentioned,

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he was misidentified as an escapee. He had actually been

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moved to another unit within the jail, and they didn't

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realize that and thought he was part of the escape.

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And look, that's a problem in and of itself. Essentially

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until this news conference, they didn't even realize that one

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guy was still present in the prison. I mean, they

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don't even know who they have in there, much less

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who's escaped, right, It's ridiculous. And some quick things to note.

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The escape itself occurred at twelve twenty am, but it

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wasn't discovered until a head count at eight point thirty am,

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which is absolutely crazy. Eight plus hour head start that

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these guys had. That is a long time to get

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out of dodge. Also important is that these inmates, two

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of them in particular, they had a major history of escape,

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and in addition to that, just about every one of

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them were being held in a minimum security wing. Of

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that prison, and there were murderers. All of them were murderers.

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Pretty much, there's no excuse for that. Now. Of course,

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the employees that were working during this time, not only

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are they going to go under investigation immediately, but also

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three of those went on suspension immediately. And that's the

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very least that's going to happen to him. The very

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least is they're going to get fired. The very worst

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is they're going to end up in prison because they're

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going to start investigating this, and it already was looking

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like an inside job. Now, it didn't take them long

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to catch their first escape ee. As a matter of fact,

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by eleven o'clock, the first innate, Kendall Miles, was captured

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in the French Quarter, of all places, where there's all

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kinds of tourists and the last thing you want is

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an escapee on the loose in the French Quarter. The

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way he was caught was he went to the French Quarter,

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as I said, and if you escape from prison in

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New Orleans, don't go to the French Quarter, because they

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have what's known as facial recognition cameras. Essentially, police take

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a photo of that escapee, they uploaded and there's technology

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that kind of places that into the memory of these

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security cameras, and the second the security camera picks up

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on a face that looks like that picture, it alerts police.

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And that's exactly how this individual was caught. Now, not

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long after he was caught, as a matter of fact,

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the same day, a second escapee was tracked down after

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someone called a tip line and basically righted him out.

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And not long after that, a third escapee was caught

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on the east side of New Orleans, opposite of the

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French Quarter. And at this point, it's looking like they're

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going to catch everybody really quickly. Right, they had already

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caught three out of the ten escapees and it's the

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first day. Unfortunately, it will get very slow after that. Now,

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the governor came out not only in local media with

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a press conference, but also the national media. And I'm

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going to play you that first presser from Louisiana Governor

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Jeff Landry regarding the escape And you've heard me talk

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about Jeff Landry in the past, a very tough on

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crime governor, and he was pissed, to say the least.

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Listen to this brings us.

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Speaker 10: To why we are here today. Which is a failure

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in the jail system. This massive jail break, which my

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statistics tell me could be the largest jail break in

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the history of the state, should never have happened, and

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the public deserves to know who.

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Speaker 4: What, and how this happened.

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Speaker 10: The responsibility for answering those questions will fall to the

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Attorney General.

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Speaker 4: Her office will lead.

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Speaker 10: The investigation into this jail break. I've also ordered the

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for compliance with basic jail guidelines and to remove all

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doc inmates that were currently in the Orleans Parish Correctional Facility.

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I will be issuing an executive order that instructs the

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State Inspector General to get an inventory from the Sheriff

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of all pre trial detainees in those awaiting sentences, like

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Derek Groves, the escapee who pled guilty to manslaughter in

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October of last.

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Speaker 4: Year and was awaiting sentencing.

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Speaker 10: If he would have been sentenced by our court system,

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he most likely would not have had an opportunity to escape.

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Speaker 4: That's extremely important now.

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Speaker 10: Once a person is booked, is arrested, is arrested in

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booked case, then goes to the district Attorney or the

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Attorney General.

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Speaker 4: That is the second leg of our three legged stool.

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Speaker 10: Prosecutors who dismiss cases and release violent criminals must be addressed.

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Speaker 4: Five of these escapees.

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Speaker 10: Had been charged while in jail. Kendall, Miles, Letton van

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Berg were charged with battery on correctional offices. Those charges

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were refused by the district attorney. Robert Moody, Jeremaine, Jermaine Donald,

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and Letting van Berg were all charged with contraband in jail.

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Their charges were refused by the district attorney. Prosecutors who

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are unprepared and delayed cases for years must be addressed

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in his court system. Nine of the ten escapees have

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been in the pre trial stages in OPCC for years now.

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Resolving these cases requires cooperation between the district Attorney and judges,

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as only the judge has the ability to continue these cases.

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I'm asking the DA to explain to us and to

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the public why these cases are not progressing.

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Speaker 4: The third leg of our stool is our courts.

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Speaker 10: Last year, I requested the Louisiana Supreme Court to do

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an in depth review of the.

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Speaker 4: Orleans criminal court system.

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Speaker 10: They issued a finding and I've been working with inside

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the criminal court system to reprimand and to remove judges

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who are not properly administering their cases. We also established

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a more robust judicial Commission.

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Speaker 4: By constitutional amendment.

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Speaker 10: Last year that was passed by the voters. Commission has

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recently been seated. I will be issuing an executive order

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asking the new Judiciary Commission to establish triggers for investigations

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by them, particularly in judicial districts with high crime rates,

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such as Arlen's East, Baton, Rouge, Rapids, Caddo. This executive

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order will mandate the Commission to specify specific review triggers,

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including reviewing the number of judge trials and acquittal rates

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in criminal courts.

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Speaker 4: There should be an automatic review.

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Speaker 10: Of any judge that has a disproportionate number of acquittals,

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as we have seen here.

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Speaker 4: In Orleans Parish.

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Speaker 10: Judges with cases of clear evidence of guilt but resulting

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in acquittals should be scrutinized investigating cases that take.

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Speaker 4: Too long to go to trial.

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Speaker 10: As I mentioned, nine of these ten escapees were sitting

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in jail waiting to go to trial. Had they gone

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to trial, had they been convicted, had they been sentenced,

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they will most likely not be in Orleans Parish jail,

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but in.

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Speaker 4: Our custody in one of the state penitentiaries.

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Speaker 10: Addressing judges' failures to revoke probation for violations. Last year,

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our Secretary of Corrections highlighted the lenient enforcement of probation

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terms for violent offenders and the need for appropriate sentences.

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I passed that letter out to the press it was

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in December of last year, to both the District Attorney

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and to the judges.

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Speaker 4: I urged both the Arleys Parish District.

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Speaker 10: Attorney and the Criminal District Court to reevaluate the sentencing

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and take probation violations seriously. Probation should not be used

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to keep violent criminals from going to jail. I repeat

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probation is not for violent criminals. The docket is also

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a key. My understanding is that the Orleans Parish Jail

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is beyond capacity because again the cases are not moving,

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such as nine of the ten escapees.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 10: There is no excuse for the escape of these violent offenders.

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There is also no excuse for the way these cases

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are currently being mismanaged in our criminal justice system, whether

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it's an escapeee or a release. We deserve the public

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deserves to know why, and not just in Orleans Parish,

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but around the rest of the state as well. That

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brings us to a data issue. I'm also requesting that

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the Metropolitan Crime Commission work in the most violent crime

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cities in the state to establish a data modeling system

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similar to what they're doing here in our Leans. This

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will include regular reporting of crime data from the point

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of arrests to the point of conviction.

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Speaker 4: I'm hoping.

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Speaker 10: That not only summer, but some sunlight has arrived in Louisiana.

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In closing, I continue to believe that our citizens want

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law and order, They want security in their neighborhoods, and

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they want safe streets for their children. The frustration grows

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with a broken criminal justice system, our taxpayers and our

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citizens to serve transparency and accountability. The issues that I

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have laid out and the executive orders that we will

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follow will demand that this city has misled, has been

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misled by those who pour out of state money funding

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the promise of justice reform, electing officials with no frontline experience,

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and those who panned their voters lead to lack of

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safety and order, which is why we are standing here today,

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which is why so many of our law enforcement agencies

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have to comb this city, in this street.

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Speaker 4: Hunting down some of the most dangerous criminals. The rony.

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Speaker 10: Of the progressive promises that have been made to this

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city is clear.

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Speaker 4: New Orleans handed the jail.

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Speaker 10: Keys to those who vowed to keep criminals out of jail,

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and sadly.

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Speaker 4: Today we show that it worked.

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Speaker 10: I hope that everyone understands that the video of those

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prisoners escapee epitomizes a progressive criminal justice system. I again

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would ask the public for their prayers and thoughts of

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all of those law enforcement agents who are working diligently

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to hunt down these fugitives. We will find them and

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we will bring them back to justice. And to repeat

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what the colonel said, if anybody harbors them, if anybody

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aiges them and we find out, we will arrest you

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and we will bring you to justice as well.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so in that he did mention a lot

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of things that would be great ideas, no doubt about it.

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Definitely there are problems with individuals taking too long to

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get through the justice system, but I feel like they

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still aren't getting to the heart of the problem, if

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you will, which is everything from lacks of days. Staff

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at that prison is shit just falling apart in there.

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I mean, there's no reason this should have happened. They

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shouldn't have been able to pull on a door to

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the point that they busted the lock. I mean, these

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are prison locks, they're not bike locks. And as I said,

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Governor Jeff Landry also went on the national media. He

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did a short interview with Fox News and here's what

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that sounded like.

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Speaker 3: Governor, welcome to you.

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Speaker 2: I know we're welcoming you from the White House as

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you are joining the President for some events there today.

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First up, are you going to find all these guys?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we are going to find them at first So

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I want to thank the FBI, the US Marshalls atf

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the Louisiana State Police Troop Nola NPD. We have got

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hundreds of law enforcement agents that are working twenty four

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and seven around o'clock hunting these folks down. We were

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able to grab three of them right close within the

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first twenty five four hours after the jail break. Of course,

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you gotta remember, Sandra, we didn't know that they had

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left the jail, that they had walked out of the

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front door for about ten hours. We didn't get that

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report from the sheriff, and so those inmates had.

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Speaker 4: About a ten hour lead on law enforcement.

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Speaker 10: But they're doing our folks are doing a great job,

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and we're gonna hunt them down.

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Speaker 2: I mean, of course you got it, Jack, go ahead, Yeah,

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I mean, Governor, from the looks of it, you can

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tell us it doesn't look like this was a sophisticated,

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you know, jail break. I mean they're even bragging about

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how easy it was to get out of there.

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Speaker 4: How did this happen?

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Speaker 10: Well, look, I think if you look at the criminal

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justice system as a whole in New Orleans, you will

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see the problem. Several years ago, George Soros came over

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to New Orleans like Santa Claus that unpacked the district attorney,

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six judges, and a sheriff. And this is what criminal

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This is what progressive criminal, a progressive criminal justice system

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looks like, Sandra, this is what happens when those people

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promise that to keep criminals out of jail. Sadly, you

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get keen of the most dangerous inmates that are in

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jail in Louisiana, they get to escape, all right.

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Speaker 2: So this is a former FBI agent Bobby chacone on.

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He's suggesting on what the inmates may have had and

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what sort of help they may have had. Godn I

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listen here.

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Speaker 4: They probably had help on the inside and the outside.

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Speaker 12: So you know now that they had help on the

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inside getting out, and now they held at the jail

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both by the specific individuals and the system as a whole.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So if it turns out that this was sort

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of some inside job, how will those who help them

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escape be held accountable?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 5: They will.

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Speaker 4: They're going to go to jail as well.

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Speaker 10: Look, we have put a twenty thousand dollars bounty on

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each one of the seven that are steel at large.

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Speaker 4: That's very important, and that's what's working with.

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Speaker 10: The Attorney General is going to conduct a very very

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thorough investigation of what happened. Sure that once that investigation

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is complete, she will release it.

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Speaker 4: You'll have plenty of things to talk about then.

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Speaker 10: But not only those people who may have aided and

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a betted them to get out, but those who continue

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to aid and abet them if we find them, If

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we find that you have aided and a bed at

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these fugitives, you're going to jail as well.

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Speaker 8: Well.

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Speaker 2: We know that we know the records. We know they're

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bad guys. We've got them up on the screen. We

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know they're probably tired, probably hungry, probably pretty desperate. Right now, Governor,

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you have a tip line up. You're asking for any

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tip lines to come in. We know that they you know,

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one of the first guys caught in the hours we

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learned about this jail break was caught right there in

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a parking garage at a hotel in New Orleans, hiding

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under a car. But a lot of time has passed

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and they could be beyond state lines. Now, do you

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have any more information about where some of these people are.

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Speaker 10: We have been getting a lot of tips, and the

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tips have been coming in all day, all night long,

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and of course every time a tip comes in, our group,

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which is composed of federal, state, and local partners, start

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running those tips down. We have reason to believe that

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most of them are still in the state Louisiana, most

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of them most likely or in the city of New Orleans.

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Speaker 4: We run down tips if we believe they're outside of that.

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Speaker 10: We have notified other jurisdictions outside of Louisiana when those

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tips have come in and we believe that they may

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be say, in another state. But I can tell you, Sandro,

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We've got many women, women working around the clock. We're

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gonna hunt these folks down. We're going to find them

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and we're going to bring them back to a jail

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that they can't break out of.

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Speaker 2: Well, we have full confidence that'll be the case, and

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we know they're on it. We've got a live picture

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up by the way. We're told this is a news

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conference as beginning in your state shortly, Governor, with the

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District Attorney's office there in New Orleans. Hopefully they've got

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some news for us as soon as anything comes from there.

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Speaker 3: We're going to go there live. Governor.

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Speaker 2: Before you go, and I know you've got this event

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with the President there shortly, I want to ask you

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about this executive order that you've issued in your state

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directing state law enforcement agencies now to assist federal immigrants

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operations and enforcement, urging these local police authorities and agencies

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to join the federal effort on immigration. You're calling this

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effort Operation go geau X and describing it as a

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historical partnership with the federal government. What can you tell

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us about this and why is this so important to you?

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Speaker 4: Governor?

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Speaker 10: Look, this has been something that's been in the works

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for quite some time. We want to stay inside by

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side with President Trump in making sure that those that

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have come into the country illegally and then commit acts

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of violence or acts of criminal acts, that we end

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up not only putting them in jail, but ending up

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deporting them as well.

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Speaker 4: We want to do our part.

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Speaker 10: We don't want people in our country that are breaking

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our criminal laws. We've got enough problems with American citizens

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who are breaking our criminal laws, and so we're standing

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side by side with the Trump administration. We have basically

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given our law enforcement agents in the state Louisiana the

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authority to enforce immigration laws.

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Speaker 4: We're going to be working on.

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Speaker 10: Some other issue, some other processes that would allow us

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to deport those that break the law in Louisiana, that

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being state criminal laws, and be able to deport them

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right away.

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Speaker 4: We're working with ICE to do that as.

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Speaker 10: Well, and we'll give you an update on that soon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we know that this is a priority for

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so many Americans, and we saw that in the last

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election and it continues to be one of the biggest

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reasons that those voters are supporting President Trump today. Is

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immigration efforts. Governor, we appreciate your time today and thanks

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for the update from the great state of Louisiana. But

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in Washington, d C. Today at the White House, Governor,

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thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Now, nearly three days have passed before investigators had another

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breakthrough and a fourth man was taken into custody in

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New Orleans. And as I've told you, the first three escapees,

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Kendall Miles, Robert Moody, and the Keyan Dennis, they were

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captured on Friday May sixteenth. This fourth guy, Gary Price,

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he was apprehended on Monday, May nineteenth, and he was

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found hiding under a car in the French Quarter. So

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at this point in time, you've still got six escapees

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at large, and investigators by this time they know it

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was an inside job of some sort. They're gathering some

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evidence and this leads to the following arrest affidavit for

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the arrest of Sterling Williams. And I'm going to cover

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that affidavit. I have it in front of me. It's

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relatively short, and here's how it read. On Friday May sixteenth,

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twenty twenty five, at approximately four o'clock pm, the Louisiana

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Bureau of Investigation special Agent and it redacts the name

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was assigned an investigation involving the escape of ten inmates

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from the Orleans Parish Correctional Center. According to initial information,

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the ten inmates escaped from the correction center at approximately

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one oh one am on five, sixteen twenty five. Initial

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information received from OPSO Sheriff indicated that the inmates escape

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by removing a seat toilet combination unit from a cell,

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then using an unknown apparatus to saw steel bars behind

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the cell room sinc. After bending the bars, the inmates

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escaped to the outdoor unsecured pipewalk area, before eventually scaling

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the jail wall to complete the escape. Agents were assigned

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to review information in an attempt to determine if anyone

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from the staff or outside personnel assisted in the escape.

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During a mirandized interview with Williams, referring to Sterling Williams,

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he explained to agents that he turned off the water

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from outside pipewalk area on the exterior of Cell six

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under direction of a light skinned blackmail with tach who's

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on his face, who he named as Quote Massey formerly

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known as Antwin Massey, who threatened to shank him if

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he did not turn the water off. Massey was one

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of ten inmates who escaped opso. Additionally, Williams was observed

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on video surveillance footage in the one D pod standing

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in the open door talking with Derek Groves and Twine

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Massey and another unidentified inmate. Williams stated at that time

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Groves tried to take his phone from him and attempted

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to get Williams to bring a book with cash app

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information to his cousin in the next pod over. In closing,

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Williams confessed to agents that he did, in fact go

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to the pipe chase via the outside door on the

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rear loading dock and turn off the water by closing

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the valve. By turning off the water to sell six,

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Williams willfully and maliciously assisted with the escape of ten inmates.

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With the water being turned off, the inmates were able

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to successfully make good on their escape. Williams admitted to

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agents he committed the acts after he was directed to

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do so by one of the inmates who escaped in

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Twan Massey. Because of Williams's actions, ten inmates from Orleans

557
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Paris Sheriff's Office Correctional Center were able to escape from

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the plumbing area where Williams turned the water off at

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the behest of massy. If the inmates removed the sink

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in the cell and disconnected the rest of the plumbing

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with the water still on, the plan to escape would

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not have been successful and potentially flooded the cell, drawing

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the attention to their actions. For these reasons, agents believe

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Williams to be a principal two ten counts of simple escape. Additionally,

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due to the fact that Williams acted under the order

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of an inmate to turn the water off in Cell six,

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the cell of the inmates used to execute the plan

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is in violation of mouth seasons in the office. Furthermore,

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Weiams did not notify authorities of the plan the inmates

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had to escape. Instead, he committed the acts that ultimately

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assisted the inmates with making good on their escapes. Williams

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did not come forward, and when confronted by agents, Williams

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was initially very evasive and untruthful, but eventually became forthcoming

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and provided evidentiary information period And this guy is now

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in a world of shit. And I'm going to tell

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you how goofy some of the news media can be

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I'm about to play you another clip featuring Attorney General

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Liz Murrell, who you haven't heard from yet. She was

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holding a press conference on this very arrest. And one

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of the questions asked in this press conference by a reporter, well,

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I can only say he alluded to the fact that

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maybe this guy didn't deserve to be arrested because he

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says he was threatened to be shanked. And then this

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Oloran reporter, in my opinion, goes on to say, I mean,

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if it were me, I'd probably turn off the water

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if I was threatened to be shanked. I mean, you

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can't make that shit up. That's a stupid statement by

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that reporter. All that guy had to do was report

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that that he just got threatened to be shanked, and

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the dude that threatened him would have been dealt with. Now, granted,

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this guy wasn't a correctional officer. He was a maintenance

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worker at the facility, employed by the facility, but it's

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still no excuse. So here's that press conference in full,

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and I'm going to play it in full because there's

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a lot of good questions and answers back and forth

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from reporters and Liz murrel that you really need to hear.

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Once again, This is the Attorney General holding a presser

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on the arrest of maintenance worker Sterling Williams.

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Speaker 13: All Right, so my office today announced that we booked

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an individual last night and processed him on ten counts

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of principle to escape from a penal institution, and we've

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also charged him with one count of malfeasance in office.

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That individual was a maintenance worker at the facility and

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we believe him to have been involved in turning the

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water off in connection with this event. This investigation is

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still an ongoing investigation and so there could be.

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Speaker 3: More arrests that will follow.

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Speaker 13: Those charges could also be upgraded or changed or attitude.

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So I'm happy to take any questions that you have.

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Speaker 12: Has this chiny general high the individual who left to

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go getting food that card been suspended.

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Speaker 13: That's the personnel side of things you have to ask

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the sheriff about. So that's an administrative question. I mean,

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we haven't filed charges against anybody else yet.

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Speaker 3: That's on the staff the Sheriff's office had directed at that.

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Speaker 13: Basically, well, if they suspended the person as an administrative

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manner that matter, than the Sheriff's office shell to be

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able to confirm.

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Speaker 4: That fuse good.

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Speaker 12: Question One, is mister william collaborating with the investigation.

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Speaker 5: No, we're talking about it's sort of things that happened.

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Speaker 4: Prior to the escapement.

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Speaker 5: And number two, what do you buy.

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Speaker 12: Of his uh saying that that you had to do

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this because one of the escapees threatned to shanky.

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Look, I think that he made some bad decisions.

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Speaker 13: I mean, I don't think that he had to do

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any of the things that he did.

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Speaker 3: And you know, if he was under threat.

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Speaker 13: Then he certainly should have brought that to someone else's attention.

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Speaker 3: But you know, our.

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Speaker 13: The facts that I'm aware of indicate that there were

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multiple opportunities to do that, to bring it to the

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attention of authorities. If he wants to bring that up

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in his defense, then that's a matter for his defense attorneys.

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I'm not going to speak to the conversations that we've

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had with the individual.

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Speaker 6: Did mister Williams have charge it before any pre dios

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criminal records.

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Speaker 3: Not that I'm aware of.

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Speaker 14: You used the term maliciously assisted in the affid David,

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And I know he described the reason why he did

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this as him being threatened to have been shaked. I

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know that if I was put in a position, I

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would be, you know, really disturbed and not knowing what

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to do. You know, why would you use the word maliciously?

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Speaker 13: Look, it's I think it's legal terms for the report.

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Maliciously assisted in an escape means you intended to assist

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ten individuals to escape from a penal institution like I don't,

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or from a jail or you know, a prison. Since

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we've had these conversations about jail's, prisons and different facilities,

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but you know he intended to assist these individuals to

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leave that facility.

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Speaker 3: That's why we use those terms.

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Speaker 11: Attorney General Milkate with New Nation, just wondering in the

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arrest AFFI David it said that he was untruthful.

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Speaker 3: Did he originally lie to investigators?

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Speaker 13: As I appreciated, he denied his involvement in the outset,

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but he's now you know, we've gotten more information and

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that's the basis for the arrest.

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Speaker 3: Can you starve some those estions of other people.

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Speaker 2: Who are under investigation, so what their dogs might be the.

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Speaker 13: Les I really can't speak to the details of that.

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I can tell you that we have and still are

666
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conducting a very thorough investigation of the staff. My investigation

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won't just stop with the acute event. We will also

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look at broader conditions at the facility, and I'm also

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looking at contributing factors that may not be in the

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control of the sheriff at that facility, like the number

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of people that she has housed there and how long

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they're staying there and what they're there for, and whether

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there's a backlog in the court system that could address

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some of this problems. So at the acute event, what

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the contributing individuals were, what their participation was, everything that

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happened before these ten people climbed over that wall.

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Speaker 3: But that will also back out.

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Speaker 13: Into other things that might be contributing to conditions at

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the prison. I know that the sheriff has indicated that

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she has concerns about locks on doors, and she's been

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asking to replace those. The governor is sending in an

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audit team so that he can look at those facility

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questions and make sure that we can address those problems.

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Our intent is to make sure that this never happens again,

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and so you know, we're going to look at all

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the things that we need to do to change those

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conditions and at the same time hold everyone accountable that

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may have been involved before, during, and after.

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Speaker 11: Can you believe they're still in Moorland at this time?

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Speaker 6: Before the rowboats?

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Speaker 13: The State Police have been leading the command, and the

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US Marshals I think are involved in that. My office

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has been involved with providing some resources in that pursuit.

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Speaker 3: So I really couldn't tell you.

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Speaker 13: I think they've had the capacity to leave the city,

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that just the time involved with them being out gives

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them the capacity to leave. Now, the reality of that

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is they have to get resources to be able to leave.

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Speaker 3: And we have cautioned uh.

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Speaker 13: Everyone I think has been clear that if you are

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assisting these individuals or having assisted these individuals, you should stop.

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If you if you are assisting them, then we're going

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to a restroom. We're going to prosecute you for assisting

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in the escape.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 13: So you know that's that's not a good thing to

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do for anybody, is to continue to help them.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 13: And and I think the more help they get, the

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more likely it is that they're able to move further away, ma'am.

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Speaker 15: If I remember the governor asking hang on, the governor

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saying just a couple of days ago that this is

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probably the largest prison break in state's history. When was

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the last time that there was a prison break this big?

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And how long did it take the catch everyone?

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Speaker 13: You know, my research indicates that the lark and you

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can check this. I mean, I just kind of ran

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a quick search on it. I can't find a larger

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one in the entire country, not just in the in

720
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the state. But three people is the max that I

721
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was able to confirm of the last one. And I

722
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couldn't tell you which one it was, but the maximum

723
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number was three.

724
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Speaker 3: So you know, I have.

725
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Speaker 13: Emphasized to everybody involved, including the sheriff and and and

726
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everybody else, that.

727
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Speaker 3: This is a big deal.

728
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Speaker 13: It is a big deal, and and I don't think

729
00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:17,360
anybody thinks that it's not. You know, there's still six

730
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,760
people that are out. We need to find them. There

731
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are a lot of people, including the district attorney, who

732
00:45:23,119 --> 00:45:26,320
are rightfully very uncomfortable and worried about his staff and

733
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his own safety and his family. They're witnesses and victims,

734
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and all of those people are very rightfully, very.

735
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Speaker 3: Unnerved by all of this.

736
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Speaker 13: And so time is of the essence, and we are

737
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doing everything within our power, all the boots are on

738
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the ground to try and recover these individuals, and all

739
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the resources that are at our disposable, including working with

740
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the FBI.

741
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Speaker 3: To recover them. Can you let me he he had

742
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:54,440
a question first, Let me sure.

743
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 12: Okay, Wally chefs have centered with not built to be

744
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I'm axim security prison.

745
00:46:02,039 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 5: Fat in mind why we're so big.

746
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Speaker 12: State inmates still palace at the jail post convictions.

747
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Speaker 13: So there weren't a lot of state inmates there to

748
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my as my understanding is the total number of DOC

749
00:46:15,159 --> 00:46:19,920
classified inmates was right around sixty. This is a facility

750
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that is approved to house fourteen hundred people and it

751
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,119
was about at that capacity.

752
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 3: So sixty is not a lot of DOC inmates.

753
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Speaker 13: The reason for them being there, I can't speak to

754
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the Department of Corrections can but it may be that

755
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,119
they were being held there pre trial for other charges,

756
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,079
for all violations, things like that. Those are some of

757
00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:42,199
the reasons why you might have somebody in a local

758
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,960
jail that's at capacity like that, and so you know

759
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they have been removed.

760
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Speaker 3: They were removed over the weekend.

761
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Speaker 13: Sixty people is not going to reduce the number enough.

762
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I would like to see it reduced a significantly higher number,

763
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and I'm looking at some of the potential ways to

764
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do that.

765
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Speaker 4: Please speak to what.

766
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Speaker 11: Kind of ideal process he would say, Please the games Williams.

767
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,559
As far as him having rewarded that could bladedly corrected

768
00:47:09,679 --> 00:47:11,840
in the way by mister fancy, what would you like

769
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to be happening?

770
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Speaker 3: You know, I can't speak to what he could or

771
00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:17,039
would have should have done. I really can't. I mean,

772
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he made decisions.

773
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Speaker 13: You know that's going to play itself out in the

774
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prosecution of his case.

775
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Speaker 3: I'm sure that you know he will. He will engage

776
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in that discussion.

777
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Speaker 13: And I don't really know exactly, you know, when he

778
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thinks he when he says he was threatened, how long

779
00:47:34,119 --> 00:47:37,519
that went on, what choices he might have made every

780
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single day that he didn't make the choice to report it.

781
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I mean, I just don't have answers for those questions. Uh,

782
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that'll play out in his actual defense and his prosecution.

783
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Speaker 11: When the audit supposed to begin.

784
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Speaker 15: To know what it is.

785
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Speaker 13: My understanding is that the governor was sending in an

786
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audit team to audit the facility and staffing issues and

787
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those kinds of questions and also to look at how

788
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that that complies or those things. We're compliant with the

789
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,559
basic jail guidelines US as as soon as this morning,

790
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so they may already be in that facility and having

791
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that conversation. That is certainly going to be relevant to

792
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,559
my and you know investigation as well. But I think

793
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they are the right people to do this. He's bringing

794
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in facility UH, corrections professionals who understand what it takes

795
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to run a jail. You know, staffing issues are an

796
00:48:28,519 --> 00:48:31,920
issue for everybody. The State Department of Correction struggles with that.

797
00:48:32,519 --> 00:48:36,320
Local other sheriffs do struggle with that. But you know,

798
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part of the answer is you've got to bring the

799
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people down to meet your staffing levels and make sure

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that you are able to properly manage that facility. We

801
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need to look at what the level of threat those

802
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,920
people have that are in that facility.

803
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Speaker 3: Uh And and so I'll be looking at all of

804
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those things.

805
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Speaker 15: You know.

806
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Speaker 13: One of the issues that I've already looked at and

807
00:48:55,519 --> 00:48:58,440
that I'm continuing to look at. Conversation that needs to

808
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,800
continue is with the court system. We have one judge

809
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who I know the Crime Commission issue to report on

810
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,920
a couple of weeks ago had a docket that had

811
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over seven hundred cases dating back to twenty sixteen. My understanding,

812
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and I'm still trying to verify this number at the prison,

813
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is that over four hundred individuals on that docket may

814
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be in custody at the prison. That's almost a third

815
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,639
to a fourth of the total census at the prison

816
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in that one judge's docket. So you know, I'm going

817
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to be appealing to the Supreme Court to help manage

818
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,760
this issue as well. I think this requires everybody who

819
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has the ability to contribute to solving this problem to

820
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contribute what they can, and so I certainly will be

821
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looking at what all the contributing factors are. We will

822
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be focusing in my criminal investigation on what criminal involvement

823
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there is. But at the end of the day, what

824
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we really want to do is make sure that this

825
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can't happen again, and that means anybody who can contribute

826
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to solving that problem needs to be part of that.

827
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Speaker 15: And speaking of that, ma'am, right now as we speak,

828
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there's a very dramatic.

829
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Speaker 3: City council meeting that's going on.

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Speaker 15: The city is you know, kind of at odds with

831
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each other over just a really egregious lack of of

832
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what the sheriff says of lack of funding over years

833
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and years and years that has led this brand new,

834
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you know.

835
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Speaker 3: Ten year old jail to be decrepit.

836
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Speaker 15: Do you feel like the state and city partnership here

837
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has on that space at this point with.

838
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Speaker 3: How this was all managed over.

839
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Speaker 13: The yere You know, look, I wouldn't agree with the

840
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description that this is a decrepit facility. It's not, and

841
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,239
there are some issues with it, and there are some

842
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,119
issues that I think the sheriff has raised. There is

843
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a lot of money that's used to fund this prison.

844
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I would like to take a look at the funding

845
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and compare it to other prisons that were running local

846
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jails that we're running around the state.

847
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Speaker 3: Look at what their population is, how much it costs

848
00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:03,159
to run that jail. You know, you can compare their numbers.

849
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Speaker 13: Now, it's not apples to apples when you've got a

850
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,599
rural facility compared to an urban facility. You've got to

851
00:51:10,679 --> 00:51:13,079
look at who they are, what they're being held for,

852
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,599
what the nature of the crimes are that they've been

853
00:51:16,639 --> 00:51:17,119
accused of.

854
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Speaker 3: To understand their level of.

855
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Speaker 13: Threat This facility was built, as I appreciate it, and

856
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,519
with an understanding that it was going to have some

857
00:51:27,679 --> 00:51:30,360
high threat individuals in it. So I don't think that

858
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,840
it's fair to say that this is simply a minimum

859
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,559
security prison. It's got to have features in it that

860
00:51:35,639 --> 00:51:40,000
will handle people who need higher security measures. How they

861
00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:43,199
were doing that inside the prison, I can't answer that yet.

862
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,039
Speaker 3: I did watch parts of that council hearing.

863
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Speaker 13: I think that, you know, I'm someone who believes that

864
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,679
fiscal transparency is a given. Uh, this is taxpayer money.

865
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It is a lot of money, and I think that,

866
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you know, we ought to be able to see exactly

867
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how that money is being spent. And I promise you

868
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that with all of the attention that is now being

869
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,119
given to this, everyone's going to be looking.

870
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Speaker 3: At that, you know. I mean, it's it's not just

871
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going to be a city.

872
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:15,599
Speaker 13: Council sheriff discussion that happens month to month to month.

873
00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:18,119
I mean, everybody's looking at it, and the Governor's audit

874
00:52:18,159 --> 00:52:20,119
team is going to have I think a significant thing

875
00:52:20,199 --> 00:52:22,760
to say about the running of the facility, the staffing

876
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,679
of the facility, and the funding of the facility.

877
00:52:27,079 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 12: The sheriff is going to come to this esteem given

878
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,400
the fact that we've had two New Orleans area of

879
00:52:32,519 --> 00:52:36,960
allmakers now calling with you or there are futs of resignation.

880
00:52:37,199 --> 00:52:39,760
What are some of your thoughts about whether it's your.

881
00:52:39,679 --> 00:52:43,079
Speaker 13: Pretiay, I'm not gonna, you know, answer questions about that.

882
00:52:43,159 --> 00:52:45,760
I don't think it's appropriate for me to answer that question.

883
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,280
I think that you know, I'm focused on my job

884
00:52:50,199 --> 00:52:53,480
right now, which is conducting an investigation inside the prison.

885
00:52:53,559 --> 00:52:55,679
And I will say that the sheriff has been cooperative

886
00:52:56,039 --> 00:52:59,159
from the beginning. I came in on Friday afternoon.

887
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Speaker 3: With my people.

888
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 13: I I have been very clear that I believe this

889
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:07,199
investigation should be independent of the Sheriff's department. But you know,

890
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there are some people there that are being very very helpful.

891
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Speaker 6: Uh.

892
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Speaker 13: We need to understand what they do, why they do it,

893
00:53:14,559 --> 00:53:19,039
how they operate. I appreciate that cooperation and and so,

894
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,519
you know, I want to continue to facilitate a productive

895
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:27,880
relationship with the sheriff. I know that she is addressing

896
00:53:28,119 --> 00:53:30,920
you know, the issues as best she can right now,

897
00:53:31,519 --> 00:53:34,119
and and and what that means for her in the

898
00:53:34,199 --> 00:53:40,760
future is not is not my concern right now. Look, look,

899
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,679
we're all the captain of our own ships. And I

900
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,800
think she took responsibility at the at the hearing today

901
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:51,599
and said, I take responsibility for what happened. That's appropriate

902
00:53:52,519 --> 00:53:53,239
if it was me.

903
00:53:53,559 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 3: I think you have to do that. You are the

904
00:53:55,519 --> 00:53:59,800
captain of your own ship with the family.

905
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:04,199
Speaker 11: Inmates, the victims that your offens been in contract with, any.

906
00:54:04,079 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 13: Of them, the the inmates who escaped, the victims of

907
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,079
those inmates that are still on the run.

908
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 6: No.

909
00:54:12,039 --> 00:54:15,599
Speaker 13: I know that the Orleans Parish Police Department and the

910
00:54:15,679 --> 00:54:19,480
District Attorney's office has been engaging quite a bit with

911
00:54:19,679 --> 00:54:23,960
victims related to the crimes of which these people are accused.

912
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I do intend to have my office engage on that

913
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,199
as well. I want to make sure that those families

914
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,239
feel like they're being adequately taken care of, that there

915
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,519
are resources that are being provided to them.

916
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 3: I will also have some outreach to some of the

917
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public officials.

918
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,199
Speaker 13: I'm going to meet with District Attorney Jason Williams this

919
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:45,079
afternoon after this and we're going to have a discussion

920
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:47,320
about some things that I think are within his and

921
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,400
my control in terms of case management and things like

922
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,760
that on some of these cases. So you know, I

923
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,320
think everybody needs to make we need to be making

924
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,519
sure that everybody who feels threatened by this directly because

925
00:55:00,519 --> 00:55:03,880
they have some direct involvement with the escapees, is that

926
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their concerns are being addressed.

927
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Speaker 11: I know that, I know that the four immediate sense

928
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,000
that captured are at stated the ability talently. Three of

929
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,079
them are Angual itself. Are you part of that that

930
00:55:16,119 --> 00:55:18,679
there isn't an overall because that's the most secure place

931
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that they view.

932
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Speaker 13: I do think it's the most secure place that they

933
00:55:21,559 --> 00:55:24,719
can be. I think it's the appropriate place for them

934
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to be.

935
00:55:25,639 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 5: Uh.

936
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Speaker 13: I didn't make the decision about where they would be,

937
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but I certainly had an opinion that they shouldn't be

938
00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:34,440
back in Orleans Parish prison, and that given their propensity

939
00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:36,480
to escape, that they should be held in the most

940
00:55:37,039 --> 00:55:39,639
uh secure place possible and that's Angola.

941
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Speaker 16: Katie, Okay, Given you talked about how witnesses are concerned,

942
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,360
families of victims are concerned.

943
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 15: Some families have described themselves as going into hiding. Are

944
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,079
you fearful for your safety as a result of these

945
00:55:59,159 --> 00:55:59,800
people being there?

946
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,599
Speaker 3: I'm not fearful for my safety.

947
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,559
Speaker 13: I am concerned about the safety of all of these

948
00:56:05,599 --> 00:56:09,800
individuals who have a direct relationship with these individuals cases.

949
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Speaker 3: I think that is a.

950
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Speaker 13: Fair concern of theirs. I think all of the you know,

951
00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:17,800
the ada's and the District Attorney's office is also there

952
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,760
are a court there. You know, there might be court

953
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,320
officials and judges who also are on edge.

954
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 3: That is obviously a fair concern for them, and so,

955
00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:28,880
you know, I do want to make sure that all of.

956
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 13: Those people feel like they have the resources that they

957
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,599
need and that they are protected. As long as these

958
00:56:34,639 --> 00:56:38,679
individuals are out, they will be pretty edgy and legitimately,

959
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so so you know, I'm going to do everything that

960
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I can to address those concerns.

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Speaker 3: I know the Governor's committed to that as well.

962
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Speaker 13: I haven't seen anybody quite frankly who isn't, so you know,

963
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but I also am continuing to encourage all the public officials,

964
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the city council, the court system, the federal court system,

965
00:56:58,159 --> 00:57:01,000
the sheriff, the district attorney. You know, we all need

966
00:57:01,079 --> 00:57:03,239
to be able to pull together to figure out what

967
00:57:03,599 --> 00:57:06,760
role we can play to address this problem and have

968
00:57:07,199 --> 00:57:09,840
a short term plan, an intermediate term plan, and a

969
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,079
long term plan to deal with this facility it's not

970
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the first time that we've had issues.

971
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Speaker 3: We all know that there are some known issues.

972
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Speaker 13: With this particular facility, so you know, it's got everybody's attention.

973
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Speaker 3: We need to address the problem. And finally, one thing

974
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I really want to ask them.

975
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Speaker 15: The sheriff said today in the city council meeting that

976
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they're admitting that there were no proper patrols that were

977
00:57:33,159 --> 00:57:35,719
made that night to go and check on folks inside

978
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the prison.

979
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Speaker 3: Given that information other information.

980
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Speaker 15: You've been gathering in your investigation, you talked about there's

981
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the potential for more charges to be forthcoming.

982
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Speaker 3: Can you explain.

983
00:57:45,519 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 15: Can you elaborate what other charges might come, who else

984
00:57:48,519 --> 00:57:49,159
might be charged?

985
00:57:49,519 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 3: I can't speak to that. It's a continuing investigation.

986
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 13: We will pursue every avenue and we will determine whether

987
00:57:58,159 --> 00:58:02,239
the conduct is chargeable as a criminal charge or it's

988
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you know, something that falls below the level of criminal

989
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:11,360
malfeasance or direct involvement with the escape. So that is

990
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part of why I will eventually issue a comprehensive report

991
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and I will bring you know everything basically that I've

992
00:58:18,239 --> 00:58:20,719
been able to collect and can address the problems that

993
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:25,360
I've identified. If we find individuals whose conduct rises to

994
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,559
the level of what I would consider to be chargeable malfeasance,

995
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then we will charge that.

996
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Speaker 5: So of course, with these escapes, everybody blames everybody as

997
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:40,039
far as politicians are concerned, and no exception will be

998
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the council in the Orleans pair sheriff and they're sparring

999
00:58:44,119 --> 00:58:48,639
over the escape and how the budget affects that, and

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I got to agree with that to some extent. You

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can only do what you can do with so much money.

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But that being said, I don't know what their budget is,

1003
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but it's not like they're getting pennies. But even though

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the sheriff said, I take this on me, it was

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on my watch, it's my responsibility. All that's true, and

1006
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credit to her for taking ownership of that. But you know,

1007
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then she follows that up with the reason that it

1008
00:59:17,639 --> 00:59:22,159
happened was funding shortfalls, and that is not the reason

1009
00:59:22,639 --> 00:59:26,280
this happened. The reason this happened is because there was

1010
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help on the inside. You hired someone that you shouldn't

1011
00:59:29,519 --> 00:59:32,039
have hired, and in addition to that, you have a

1012
00:59:32,119 --> 00:59:35,679
lot of lasadaisical people somewhere along the way that weren't

1013
00:59:35,679 --> 00:59:40,119
paying fucking attention let's be honest, now, what's the biggest

1014
00:59:40,239 --> 00:59:43,280
risk here. As you've heard in some of the clips

1015
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that I played you, it's the victims out there. It's

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the witnesses that are out there, especially because some of

1017
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,920
these guys, they're going to go hunting for some of

1018
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,960
those people that maybe they got to worry about testifying

1019
00:59:59,079 --> 01:00:02,079
against them. Not all these guys have convictions, and they're

1020
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going to attempt to eliminate them in all likelihood in

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01:00:06,119 --> 01:00:07,920
the hopes that they're going to get out of trouble.

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As it relates to major murder chargers, it's hard to

1023
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:16,199
be convicted of murder if there's no witnesses. I mean,

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this is really no joke. And as of this recording,

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five of these guys are still on the loose. Now

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01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,440
one has been captured just prior to this recording, So

1027
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:33,960
still on the loose Leo Tate, Jermaine Donald, Derek Grows,

1028
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:39,559
Lenton Van Buren, and Antoine Massey. And it makes you

1029
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:44,719
wonder how they still remain on the run. How are

1030
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,639
they free this long? And obviously they have help, there's

1031
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,280
no doubt about it. At this point these guys likely

1032
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:57,599
are long gone. Maybe not, but if I'm escaping from

1033
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,840
Orleans Parish prison. I want you to take me to Mexico,

1034
01:01:01,039 --> 01:01:02,840
where I want you to definitely want to get out

1035
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:07,039
of state of Louisiana. Hopefully they'll be captured soon, and

1036
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of course I'm going to keep you updated in the

1037
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event that they are. Thank you so much for listening.

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a podcast on forty two years in the making, the

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complete story of America's bloodiest present.

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Speaker 1: Peace a wall, Street line, shackle chain, it's calling my name.

1044
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:10,920
There is no mercy and this being a tentery juice

1045
01:02:11,119 --> 01:02:17,880
as the huge string game Rangle three, I'm.

1046
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 5: Here forf I'm here to die.

1047
01:02:24,159 --> 01:02:29,239
Speaker 1: Inside these walls, inside the wild.

1048
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Speaker 11: And when the war.

1049
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 4: As I know, it's old

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Speaker 1: Body, angle, obody, angle, and do