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Speaker 2: One thing we as Louisville fans can't relate to is
Speaker 2: is getting a big time victory like Kentucky did last night.
Speaker 2: I won't lie and act like Louisville losing the way
Speaker 2: they did and then Kentucky winning the way they did.
Speaker 2: You know it sucked, But I did know going in
Speaker 2: that Kentucky, you know, had a chants to win. And
Speaker 2: I mentioned it many times yesterday that I kind of
Speaker 2: just had a feeling that they would they'd be able
Speaker 2: to win because in these games in the Champions Classic,
Speaker 2: the teams that are more so built on veterans that
Speaker 2: are back that have played a lot of college basketball,
Speaker 2: they oftentimes end up getting the edge over teams that
Speaker 2: are really talented, but it's built with the core being
Speaker 2: young guys, and Duke has a pretty good balance, to
Speaker 2: be honest with you. The guys they went out on
Speaker 2: the portal are role guys. And I thought last night
Speaker 2: Billis made a good point to say that, and I
Speaker 2: guess he brought up a good point that I thought was,
Speaker 2: you know, made a lot of sense. I just hadn't
Speaker 2: really considered it. But John Shire, I guess has maybe
Speaker 2: he told Billis this directly, or it was just something
Speaker 2: he said in a press conference. But when they went
Speaker 2: out and really filled out their roster in the portal,
Speaker 2: it wasn't really based off of talent level production at
Speaker 2: the previous school. It was assessing who can fit a
Speaker 2: specific role that we need, And you know, last night.
Speaker 2: They didn't win, but like you could tell, there's guys
Speaker 2: out there that are probably not probably surprised themselves to
Speaker 2: be at Duke at this point in their career, but
Speaker 2: they're not asked to go out there and you know,
Speaker 2: lead in scoring and take ten shots. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: gonna be the freshman. That's going to be Canipple and
Speaker 2: obviously Cooper Flagg who is sensational and look the best
Speaker 2: three players on the floor last night. And I don't
Speaker 2: even think Kentucky fans would disagree with this. This is
Speaker 2: not taking anything away from their win. This is just
Speaker 2: I think what was pretty evident, and Kentucky fans should
Speaker 2: know this. The most talented guys, guys who have the
Speaker 2: best chance of getting to the NBA and being taken
Speaker 2: really early in the draft. That doesn't always get you victories.
Speaker 2: Who has learned that more than Kentucky fans in recent years? Right,
Speaker 2: So last night role reversal. The three best players in
Speaker 2: my opinion, for you know, for for in last night's
Speaker 2: game was clearly Flag and then Canipple and then malc
Speaker 2: or Malloch. I think it's Maloch. I mean those two guys,
Speaker 2: you could tell are game changers and they're gonna play
Speaker 2: in the NBA, but they couldn't get it done. Now again,
Speaker 2: I know, anything I say, as far as you know,
Speaker 2: questioning how good Duke is or criticizing Duke, I'm sure
Speaker 2: there's some Kentucky fans that little hear it as if
Speaker 2: I'm trying to take away you know, take away their
Speaker 2: their you know, their their win. Like it didn't mean
Speaker 2: what it did. It's just the truth. Though, Like they
Speaker 2: had Moloch who only played twenty three minutes because he
Speaker 2: was cramping up and they kept having to take him
Speaker 2: out of the game. And then I don't remember the
Speaker 2: name of the yeah, the guard. I think it was
Speaker 2: a James who transferred in from from Tulane. The point
Speaker 2: guard who he went out and didn't come back and
Speaker 2: didn't return. So like that he was he's clearly the
Speaker 2: defensive guy for this Duke backcourt. So you know, those
Speaker 2: are things that just happened. It's not you know, it's
Speaker 2: not luck. It's not the Kentucky you know, maybe they
Speaker 2: benefited from it, but those things happen in basketball. So,
Speaker 2: you know, impressive performance from Kentucky and what's got to
Speaker 2: make it even sweeter for Kentucky fans is knowing that
Speaker 2: they didn't even really play that well. I mean, they
Speaker 2: didn't play bad. I'd say, if you're saying did they
Speaker 2: play good or bad, you're clearly going to say they
Speaker 2: played good. But I feel like you're not going to
Speaker 2: have many nights where you get nothing from Jackson Robinson.
Speaker 2: You know, I think they played a B plus game,
Speaker 2: but maybe I'm not giving them enough credit because I'm
Speaker 2: looking at the numbers here and I'm not really sure
Speaker 2: what you know, what they did where I would say that,
Speaker 2: you know, there wasn't any at the only aspect of
Speaker 2: the game that you look at and from a numbers
Speaker 2: standpoint and say, okay, they need to be better. Here
Speaker 2: would be points in the paint. I mean two K
Speaker 2: forty six. Kentucky had twenty six. But I don't think
Speaker 2: Mark Pope is looking at that and thinking that's an
Speaker 2: issue because he wants three pointers, layups or free throws. Now,
Speaker 2: they did have some guys that you know late just
Speaker 2: went and got a bucket, which it's nice to be
Speaker 2: able to do that when when when it's needed. I
Speaker 2: mean Andrew Carr, I mean, he was pretty good last night.
Speaker 2: Seventeen points, there was another guy I can't think of
Speaker 2: who else got a late bucket that just kind of
Speaker 2: seemed like, you know, all right, it's close game. These
Speaker 2: last few possessions are going to be really valuable. Can
Speaker 2: you go get a bucket? And I know car did,
Speaker 2: but yeah, Kentucky, they're probably feeling better than they have
Speaker 2: felt in a long time when it comes to their
Speaker 2: basketball program because they're winning the breakup and it's not
Speaker 2: close at this point.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: On the Louisville side, when it comes to what happened
Speaker 2: against Tennessee, I think there's a lot of layers to
Speaker 2: how it went the way it did, and it's concerning
Speaker 2: no doubt, it was a reality check. I think a
Speaker 2: wake up call for everybody that, you know, despite the excitement,
Speaker 2: despite really liking the pieces for this team, maybe their
Speaker 2: ceiling is not that high, and you know there's going
Speaker 2: to be times and in fact, there's gonna be a
Speaker 2: lot of times they play teams that are just better
Speaker 2: than them. In fact, they play a lot of these
Speaker 2: teams in the next few weeks, which unfortunately kind of
Speaker 2: scares me a little bit. I'm hopeful that they can
Speaker 2: win a couple of them, maybe win you know, some
Speaker 2: games that really improve their resume, but also so maybe
Speaker 2: they you know, if they don't win, that they compete
Speaker 2: and it's close, because that could lead to you having
Speaker 2: a record that is, you know, not good for the
Speaker 2: Louisville standard when you get to early January. But if
Speaker 2: you've been competitive in those games against really good teams
Speaker 2: that are ranked really really high, that could make it
Speaker 2: to where maybe you end up being that team when
Speaker 2: you get the first look at the net rankings that
Speaker 2: come out what in early January whenever that is like,
Speaker 2: maybe you'll be the team that everybody points to and says, geez,
Speaker 2: how the hell can Louisville be you know, three games
Speaker 2: above five hundred and have a top twenty ranking. And
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that they will be, but that's how
Speaker 2: these formulas have proven to play out. Now, do I
Speaker 2: think it's the right way to do it? Probably not,
Speaker 2: but hey, it doesn't matter. That's the way it is.
Speaker 2: And if it favors Louisville because they've played really good
Speaker 2: teams close but they end up losing and yet they're
Speaker 2: still ranked pretty high, I'll take it. I'll take it.
Speaker 2: But what stood out to me last night when watching
Speaker 2: Kentucky is that they play. They want to play a
Speaker 2: very sill like. This is pretty noticeable as soon as
Speaker 2: you realized who was going to be coaching both of
Speaker 2: these programs. Pat Kelsey and Mark Pope are alike in
Speaker 2: how they want to play. It's not the exact same way,
Speaker 2: but they both sort of are very much relying on
Speaker 2: the new analytical world, right, a lot of possessions, a
Speaker 2: lot of threes that are open. Take some risks defensively
Speaker 2: because it can potentially lead to you getting some high
Speaker 2: percentage looks on offense rather that be transition buckets. Maybe
Speaker 2: that's just a three in transition. You know, that's the
Speaker 2: way these guys want to play. And last night, I
Speaker 2: feel like the game was pretty free flowing. I mean,
Speaker 2: there was a stretch where it felt like neither team
Speaker 2: could really buy a bucket. But you know, late they
Speaker 2: were able to rely on Andrew Carr's ability to go
Speaker 2: to work in the post. He's a really skilled big
Speaker 2: and Jackson Robinson. He didn't have to do anything last
Speaker 2: night for them to win. But I would imagine that
Speaker 2: in others, you know, when Kentucky starts playing other really
Speaker 2: good teams on their schedule this year. Maybe it's not
Speaker 2: Andrew Carr, but maybe Jackson Robinson is the guy that
Speaker 2: they kind of run some things through and it's not like, hey,
Speaker 2: everybody get out of the way, let this guy just
Speaker 2: go one on one. But utilizing the tools that the
Speaker 2: players you have can I mean, let me rephrase that,
Speaker 2: taking some individual strengths that a lot of your guys
Speaker 2: have and figuring out a way to make the most
Speaker 2: out of that. Right, maximize what you can get out
Speaker 2: of that. Because with Pat Kelcey at Winthrop and at Charleston,
Speaker 2: he's been more of a system guy and he's been
Speaker 2: super successful. I'm not I mean, look, that's why he's
Speaker 2: at Louisville because what he was doing there was working here.
Speaker 2: And I think the majority of you know, the teams
Speaker 2: that Louisville's going to play, they can get into what
Speaker 2: they want to do, and they can dictate pace a
Speaker 2: little bit, and they can get into what they want
Speaker 2: to be and there's a good chance that it works
Speaker 2: out more often than not. But there's also going to
Speaker 2: be times when you played Tennessee or maybe teams that
Speaker 2: aren't as good at Tennessee, but teams that have the
Speaker 2: ability to take you away from what you want to do.
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm so anxious to see when you
Speaker 2: get to Indiana or get to whoever you play next
Speaker 2: that really is not wanted, that knows, Hey, we're going
Speaker 2: to take Louisville away from what they want to do
Speaker 2: like Tennessee did, and then we should be good because
Speaker 2: when we dare Louisville's guys to just break us down
Speaker 2: and beat us one on one and score on us,
Speaker 2: they aren't very good at that. It's like, I can't
Speaker 2: wait to see when they play those teams whoever that
Speaker 2: ends up being, and I want to see what the
Speaker 2: recipe is because you clearly can't just rely on it
Speaker 2: the way you did against Tennessee and expect it to
Speaker 2: work out. So when you look at the level that
Speaker 2: is Winthrop in Charleston, the vast majority of players at
Speaker 2: the mid major level are relatively similar when it comes
Speaker 2: to talent level. And what I mean by that is
Speaker 2: the majority of the teams in those mid major conferences
Speaker 2: they're working with, you know, a similar ceiling when it
Speaker 2: comes to talent. Majority of players at the mid major
Speaker 2: level that aren't transfers are probably guys that were two
Speaker 2: star or maybe low three star recruits, and there's way
Speaker 2: more of those guys than there are four and five
Speaker 2: star players, and that's why those guys typically go to
Speaker 2: the better schools. So what I'm saying is Pat Kelsey's
Speaker 2: you know, approach And maybe this wasn't like the mindset,
Speaker 2: but here's how it played out. He's at two different stops,
Speaker 2: been successful based off of a system and a style
Speaker 2: more so than individual guys that just simply can do
Speaker 2: things that other guys can't. Now, maybe at the mid
Speaker 2: major level, you'll have some guys that like, hey, they
Speaker 2: got the best guy in the league. There's nobody that
Speaker 2: can stop him in the in the you know, in
Speaker 2: the MAC or in the Sun Belt or something like that.
Speaker 2: But nowadays those guys are probably gonna not stay at
Speaker 2: that level because they can utilize the portal and jump
Speaker 2: up to a higher level. But what I'm saying is
Speaker 2: when it comes down to this jump from that level
Speaker 2: to this level, you're going to have to rely on
Speaker 2: not just a system, but guys utilizing what they have
Speaker 2: in their bag. If you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 2: what their strengths are offensively and how you can put
Speaker 2: something together to where you can consistently get high percentage shots. So,
Speaker 2: like I think Louisville has some guys that may be
Speaker 2: able to take advantage of an opponent, even a good opponent, right,
Speaker 2: Like Karin Johnson's a good scorer, Chucky Hepburn can can
Speaker 2: run the show for you. Case in Pryor, I think
Speaker 2: is a matchup problem for other for the majority of
Speaker 2: guys that are playing his position because of his versatility.
Speaker 2: So you know, get some sets in, run some motion
Speaker 2: that can really put those guys in position to where
Speaker 2: you're scoring. And it's because hey, we've got to match
Speaker 2: up advantage here, right, We've got something here that we
Speaker 2: can really utilize and have success. And I hope I'm
Speaker 2: not nerding out too much on basketball, but what it
Speaker 2: comes down to is Pat kelsey success at deplete that
Speaker 2: the previous two places that he's been at makes sense
Speaker 2: for it to be based off of style, all Right,
Speaker 2: I can plug him play not just anybody off the street,
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of guys that can be the
Speaker 2: three man in this offense in what we want to do.
Speaker 2: They got to play defense and they've you know, so
Speaker 2: now you know, I still think he's going to continue
Speaker 2: to recruit guys that fit what he wants to do.
Speaker 2: But if he's getting Louisville caliber players and not necessarily
Speaker 2: just transfers who came from a mid major level, these
Speaker 2: these are guys that can do more than just fit
Speaker 2: a specific role. They can potentially break guys down off
Speaker 2: the dribble because you know what, they're talented players. And
Speaker 2: I think this team, maybe I'm wrong here. I think
Speaker 2: you have some pieces to where you can't cook something
Speaker 2: up to where you know you're not relying so much
Speaker 2: on your on your overall style and philosophy, you're able
Speaker 2: to get into some action in the half court where
Speaker 2: maybe it's a two men game with Case and Pryor
Speaker 2: and and Korin Johnson, or maybe it's okay, Terrence Edwards,
Speaker 2: let's go look at what he was really able to
Speaker 2: do at James Madison. And I know James Madison's not
Speaker 2: the same level as Louisville, but you know what, at
Speaker 2: James Madison, Terrenceiverts Junior had a what twenty five points
Speaker 2: against Michigan State at their place, And like, you know,
Speaker 2: I think he's talented. And what I saw is guys
Speaker 2: out there when the system wasn't working on Saturday against Tennessee.
Speaker 2: They didn't really know what to revert to, and I
Speaker 2: don't know either, But that's Pat Kelsey's job, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure he's figuring out what he can do offensively to to,
Speaker 2: you know, to not find yourself in a position where
Speaker 2: you only score what fifty five points? So everybody involved,
Speaker 2: top to bottom, this is going to be a learning
Speaker 2: experience in Pat Kelsey. I think he knew deep down
Speaker 2: that there's gonna be teams that are able to take
Speaker 2: away what they want to do. But he hadn't had
Speaker 2: anybody even come close to challenging Louisville until Tennessee came
Speaker 2: to town Saturday, and they didn't just challenge you, they
Speaker 2: they dominated you. So now they get to work they
Speaker 2: have They're gonna have ten days between those games to
Speaker 2: figure it out, and unforse fortunately Bellerman and Winthrop aren't
Speaker 2: going to give you the same look that a Tennessee is.
Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean they're not working on some things
Speaker 2: to have in place when they do find themselves in
Speaker 2: the same situation they were in against really good teams
Speaker 2: like Tennessee. Album making sense because again Pat built this
Speaker 2: team with guys that fit what he wants to do,
Speaker 2: which is understandable, which is what I think most would
Speaker 2: have expected him to do. But these are also guys
Speaker 2: that if they were playing for Pat Kelsey at Charleston
Speaker 2: or Winthrop, they would be really on the high end
Speaker 2: as far as talent. Maybe not all of them, but
Speaker 2: certain guys. So figure out what you can, you know,
Speaker 2: what you can really put together offensively with the talent
Speaker 2: and the skills that you have there, and you know,
Speaker 2: next time you're in that spot, see if it works,
Speaker 2: and we may learn the hard way that man. You know,
Speaker 2: these guys, they were all pretty good players for successful
Speaker 2: mid major type programs, but man, they weren't the best
Speaker 2: players on those min major programs. And maybe that just
Speaker 2: results in Louisville being underwhelming when it comes to talent.
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think it's going to play
Speaker 2: out that way, but we'll certainly find out, because again,
Speaker 2: they're going to be in, hopefully not situations like they
Speaker 2: were in on Saturday, where they're down twenty they lose
Speaker 2: by twenty two points, and at times you feel like
Speaker 2: it's going to be even uglier than that. What I mean, though,
Speaker 2: is they're going to be in situations where they can't
Speaker 2: do what they did against Morehead State, they can't do
Speaker 2: what they did against the exhibition opponents. So from there
Speaker 2: it just comes down to, you know, figuring out what
Speaker 2: you know. I'm not asking or expecting him to reinvent
Speaker 2: who they are and change, you know, their identity. That
Speaker 2: would be foolish, and he's not going to do that.
Speaker 2: But you've got to be able to cook something up
Speaker 2: in the half court when you find yourself in the
Speaker 2: situation you found yourself in Saturday, and he knows that,
Speaker 2: and now he's got to try to fix it. All right,
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Speaker 2: Good to chat with you, against Sarah. How you been good?
Speaker 4: Thanks?
Speaker 2: How are you doing well? I know you guys had
Speaker 2: a big event that we spent a lot of time
Speaker 2: talking about for a couple of months, the pints for
Speaker 2: pets and people, and I just got to know how
Speaker 2: did the event go? I know there was a lot
Speaker 2: of excitement for it, not only for people to learn
Speaker 2: about the whole process and just educate folks on how
Speaker 2: valuable it is to have your pets donate blood. How
Speaker 2: did things go for you guys?
Speaker 16: Yeah, it was really great. We were lucky. We had
Speaker 16: a beautiful day, had a pretty steady stream of people
Speaker 16: coming to visit us. We had a taco chuck and
Speaker 16: a shaved dice chuck, which were a big hit. The
Speaker 16: Red Cross managed to get thirty six donations. That's awesome,
Speaker 16: people side, which was great. That was well above our
Speaker 16: goal for them. I think they needed twenty in order
Speaker 16: to come out to us that day, so they were
Speaker 16: very excited, and our Blood Bank for Pets got quite
Speaker 16: a bit of interest and we were able to get
Speaker 16: some new donors and we're still in talks with some
Speaker 16: that were interested and still trying to get them in
Speaker 16: for their screening process. So all in all, it was
Speaker 16: a great day and we're looking forward to making this
Speaker 16: an annual event.
Speaker 2: I will admit, and I know I said this last
Speaker 2: time we talked, I was not even aware that this
Speaker 2: was a thing, meaning pets can donate blood and the
Speaker 2: impact that it can have to help potentially save lives.
Speaker 2: But how did you guys come come up with this
Speaker 2: whole idea of putting a pet blood bank together at
Speaker 2: your facility? Was it just seeing that maybe there was
Speaker 2: a real knee eat for more awareness of it. It's
Speaker 2: just not something that people are aware of enough. What
Speaker 2: was the inspiration behind this whole thing?
Speaker 16: There's definitely not enough awareness, you know. We started the
Speaker 16: program in twenty fourteen just to make things more accessible
Speaker 16: for us because even as it is today, wait times
Speaker 16: then we're still a problems. There were times we couldn't
Speaker 16: get blood for two weeks or more at a time,
Speaker 16: and when you have a patience that needs it, that
Speaker 16: is detrimental to their care. So we wanted to have
Speaker 16: a little bit of control over the blood that we
Speaker 16: collected here, have a hand in our donors and keeping
Speaker 16: them healthy, knowing where our blood came from, and making
Speaker 16: sure that we're collecting our blood in an ethical and
Speaker 16: safe way. And then as our program grew over the years,
Speaker 16: we were able to extend that service to hospitals not
Speaker 16: only locally but throughout the country.
Speaker 2: For those who who are still learning just what you
Speaker 2: know the whole process here, as far as you know
Speaker 2: wondering is their pet eligible? What really goes into that?
Speaker 1: What types of.
Speaker 2: Pets out there are eligible? And within those you know,
Speaker 2: dogs and cats, what are the specifics that you guys
Speaker 2: need to need to know ahead of time to be
Speaker 2: able to tell these pet owners if their pets are
Speaker 2: or if they qualify to don donate blood.
Speaker 6: Or not well.
Speaker 16: The minimum age is usually about a year, and aside
Speaker 16: from that, it's really just looking for pets that have
Speaker 16: good disposition, they're current on their vaccinations and monthly preventatives,
Speaker 16: and then good overall health is kind of where we start,
Speaker 16: Dogs need to be at least forty pounds and cats
Speaker 16: need to be at least ten pounds and strictly indoors
Speaker 16: for cats, and then we provide the screening process free
Speaker 16: of charge, which includes their preliminary blood typing to determine
Speaker 16: their eligibility and then full blood typing, an infectious disease panel,
Speaker 16: and a general health profile for those that qualify. And
Speaker 16: then once they're in the program, we continue to give
Speaker 16: them benefits still in the interest of keeping them healthy.
Speaker 16: So we offer their annual wellness exam, their rabis, the
Speaker 16: temper vaccines, feqal exam, and all of that lab work
Speaker 16: that we did in the beginning. We continue to do
Speaker 16: that annually. So that's all things that we do to
Speaker 16: help the pets stay healthy, and it kind of gives
Speaker 16: back to them because wellness care can be pricey and
Speaker 16: so we cover all those costs.
Speaker 2: Sarah can Heead of Jefferson Animal Hospitals our guest joining
Speaker 2: us here on Sports Talk seven ninety. When it comes
Speaker 2: to the actual process of drawing blood, how many pet
Speaker 2: owners out there really want to see the demonstration that
Speaker 2: you guys provide, because you know pets, pets are family
Speaker 2: they if they don't know exactly what goes into it,
Speaker 2: they've never seen it, I'm sure they're curious. They want
Speaker 2: to make sure whoever they're handing their pet over to is,
Speaker 2: you know, is going to be able to do exactly
Speaker 2: what needs to be done. I would imagine that's a
Speaker 2: really beneficial process for you guys when you do have
Speaker 2: events like you had recently here where you can demonstrate
Speaker 2: the exact process to put to put pet owners at ease.
Speaker 16: It is, and we're always happy for owners to be
Speaker 16: present with their animals when they donate. And if anyone
Speaker 16: isn't sure about the process and they call us, I'm
Speaker 16: more than happy to kind of coordinate a time so
Speaker 16: that they can come in and potentially watch one being
Speaker 16: done so that they're more comfortable with the process. But
Speaker 16: we always allow owners to be present if they want to,
Speaker 16: so that way their pet is more comfortable with them there,
Speaker 16: and then they kind of also get to see how
Speaker 16: things are done, but where it's kind of an open book.
Speaker 16: So yeah, and they want to be present, I'm happy
Speaker 16: to make that happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm assuming you guys are well aware that
Speaker 2: that would be something people would want to maybe the
Speaker 2: next time around, if they donate blood down the line,
Speaker 2: maybe they wouldn't feel the need to be there just
Speaker 2: to be you know, kind of babysit the whole process
Speaker 2: or whatnot. But yes, people are very, very very protective
Speaker 2: of their pets. Again, they're like they're like family members.
Speaker 2: So sure it makes it makes total sense. Now when
Speaker 2: it comes to the overall benefit here, obviously it can
Speaker 2: it can help save lives, but what are some other
Speaker 2: benefits here that would really hopefully incentivize people to say, Okay,
Speaker 2: I want to give Jeffersonail Hospital a call and see
Speaker 2: if maybe my pet can qualify because of this and that, Again,
Speaker 2: just being able to help save pets lives, that should
Speaker 2: be enough for people. But I know there's other benefits
Speaker 2: as well that comes with the overall process here.
Speaker 16: You know, just like you said, it is about saving pets.
Speaker 16: A lot of owners that don't know that animal blood
Speaker 16: banking is a thing. Some of ours have come from
Speaker 16: families who have had a pet that needs blood and
Speaker 16: then wanted to give back, so as they get other pets,
Speaker 16: they enrolled them in the program just in an effort
Speaker 16: to give back. Aside from the wellness benefits, we do
Speaker 16: offer free blood products equal to the mount donated, so
Speaker 16: if the donor is ever in need or they have
Speaker 16: a housemate in need, then they are welcome to utilize
Speaker 16: that pool of product if they ever need it. In
Speaker 16: past ten years, knock on wood, I've only ever had
Speaker 16: to use that once, but it would there for that
Speaker 16: family when they needed it the most, and we were
Speaker 16: happy to provide that. So that's always a nice thing
Speaker 16: that they have something to fall back on. And we
Speaker 16: do offer discounted exam fees for the donor if they're
Speaker 16: ever in need of like a sick visit or anything
Speaker 16: like that.
Speaker 2: So pet owners are listening as we chat right now.
Speaker 2: What's what's the best process for them to get in
Speaker 2: touch with you guys and really get this whole thing started.
Speaker 16: The easiest way to email us at blood Bank at
Speaker 16: Jefferson Vets dot com. It's likely the easiest way to
Speaker 16: get in touch with me. Or they can call our
Speaker 16: office at five oh two nine hundred pets and then
Speaker 16: they can always instruct them to make an appointment or
Speaker 16: leave a message and someone from the blood Bank team
Speaker 16: would get back to them.
Speaker 2: Now, I know you guys have been in business at
Speaker 2: Jeffsonail Hospital for a long time, since nineteen eighty, and
Speaker 2: you're always there for folks who need to get their
Speaker 2: pets checked out. Maybe they've got some type of an
Speaker 2: issue that you know, they want to get looked at,
Speaker 2: or or maybe you know it's an emergency, and those
Speaker 2: things aren't planned and they're scary, but you know, they
Speaker 2: do happen. So I know you guys are there for
Speaker 2: folks that have pets, But how often do you guys
Speaker 2: end up having pet owners come in with their dog,
Speaker 2: their cat, or whatever animal it may be, and they
Speaker 2: just haven't thought of getting them looked at or checked
Speaker 2: out in a long time, and maybe there's something that
Speaker 2: is pretty serious that they never knew that that's got
Speaker 2: to be addressed. I just, you know, pets can't communicate
Speaker 2: with us the same. I guess they communicate differently obviously
Speaker 2: than humans. They can communicate with us, but it's just different.
Speaker 2: I just I would imagine there's a lot of people who,
Speaker 2: you know, they just just just assume that everything's a
Speaker 2: okay with their dog or their cat or whatever pet
Speaker 2: it may be. And you know, it's probably something that
Speaker 2: they realize too late that they should get those checkups.
Speaker 2: They should come and see you guys, just to make
Speaker 2: sure everything's okay.
Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, wellness exams are probably the most important
Speaker 16: because even though things look okay, there are always some
Speaker 16: things under the surface that you never know could be
Speaker 16: brewing or that can be caught early. So the easiest
Speaker 16: thing to take care of your pet is to have
Speaker 16: those wellness exams and have some of that preliminary blood
Speaker 16: work done. That way you can catch things before they
Speaker 16: get super scary. And we're a full service that so
Speaker 16: we do wellness and emergency as well, so you know
Speaker 16: we're here for whatever anybody needs.
Speaker 2: All right, do you guys have any any upcoming events,
Speaker 2: any any blood drob events coming up here in the
Speaker 2: next couple of months that people should be aware of.
Speaker 16: Not in the next couple of months, we're kind of
Speaker 16: recuperating from the last one, makes sense, But we'll be
Speaker 16: planning things in the future, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Well awesome, Sarah, Really appreciate all the great work that
Speaker 2: you guys do, you and your team, and certainly appreciate
Speaker 2: you partnering with us. Keep up the great work and
Speaker 2: we will talk soon. Perfect, Thanks so much, Take care again.
Speaker 2: That is Sarah Cadet from the Jefferson Animal Hospital. Always
Speaker 2: appreciate her making some time for us. Again, when you
Speaker 2: when you consider the the you know your pet and
Speaker 2: what you know what your dog, cat, whatever, Maybe it's
Speaker 2: a snake, maybe it's I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying they're family. And as I've said many
Speaker 2: times when discussed the value that Jefferson Animal Hospital gives
Speaker 2: to the community here, I don't want to act like
Speaker 2: your pet can't communicate with you, because they do. It's
Speaker 2: just they don't do it the way you know humans do.
Speaker 2: But you should always get them checked out. And I
Speaker 2: know there are people listening right now that are thinking, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe maybe they've lost a pet due to
Speaker 2: some type of health issue that could have been prevented
Speaker 2: had they had a wellness check as as she mentioned there,
Speaker 2: So don't put it off, don't procrastinate. You know you can.
Speaker 2: You can reach out to them. Bibo two nine hundred
Speaker 2: Pets is the phone number. Jefferson Vets dot com is
Speaker 2: the website to get more information making appointment, stop in
Speaker 2: and see them. And you know, if you haven't had
Speaker 2: a check up in a long time for your pet,
Speaker 2: then you know you need to. It's time you're due
Speaker 2: for a check up, and you can get more information
Speaker 2: about all of the the pet blood donation stuff that
Speaker 2: they've got going on. Pet bloodbank dot Com is the
Speaker 2: website and I'm looking at it right now. They've got
Speaker 2: a lot of great information. They certainly make it very
Speaker 2: convenient for those that, you know, if you're somebody that's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't really understand how that works. I don't know
Speaker 2: a whole lot about it, and like, well, if you
Speaker 2: go to pet bloodbank dot com, you're gonna get all
Speaker 2: the information you need. And as you heard her mention there,
Speaker 2: they'll they understand that you're gonna probably have some questions
Speaker 2: about the process. You're going to want to probably be
Speaker 2: around your pet whenever they first have there there when
Speaker 2: they when they give blood for the first time. So again,
Speaker 2: pet bloodbank dot Com, Jefferson Betts dot Com both websites.
Speaker 2: BABO two nine hundred pets is the number, and tell
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Speaker 2: I want to save the college football playoff ranking stuff
Speaker 2: for the five o'clock hours, just so we have enough time.
Speaker 2: Because the Big ten is getting the benefit of the
Speaker 2: doubt that the SEC usually gets, and honestly the Big
Speaker 2: ten usually gets it too, just maybe not at the
Speaker 2: level that the SEC does. And I don't think anybody
Speaker 2: would claim that those aren't the two best leagues as
Speaker 2: far as just you know, you take the top. I
Speaker 2: don't know, eight teams seven eight teams from both those
Speaker 2: two leagues, you're gonna likely have a big advantage over
Speaker 2: the other two Power Force and really anybody else. But
Speaker 2: that doesn't just mean that you can lose, and it
Speaker 2: doesn't count like it doesn't. It's not held against you
Speaker 2: at the same way. And I think the SEC, you're
Speaker 2: seeing the Big ten get benefit of the doubt over
Speaker 2: the SEC, and they don't know how to feel about it.
Speaker 2: They don't know how to feel about it now. I
Speaker 2: don't know if I believe that a one loss Penn
Speaker 2: State team is better than a two loss or even
Speaker 2: a three loss SEC team. I mean, i'd probably lean
Speaker 2: towards taking the SEC team with more losses. But does
Speaker 2: that mean that, you know, if you believe that, should
Speaker 2: you rank it that way or should you base it
Speaker 2: off of just results? I mean, I guess you should
Speaker 2: base it off just results, But you know, I I
Speaker 2: think yesterday the update that we got from the college
Speaker 2: football playoff rankings was really a reminder that there's no
Speaker 2: perfect way to do it. No matter what you do,
Speaker 2: there's gonna be gonna be people upset. But I think
Speaker 2: the SEC. I felt like it could be wrong, But
Speaker 2: I feel like the SEC overall as a league from
Speaker 2: top to bottom, and I guess more so just Sanky,
Speaker 2: because there certain teams that are feeling prett good about
Speaker 2: where they are. But I would imagine Sank might be
Speaker 2: more displeased with the committee last night, maybe than he
Speaker 2: ever has been when it comes to the playoff rankings.
Speaker 2: But we'll get into that in the five o'clock or
Speaker 2: let's go to the text on Pabo two six, five,
Speaker 2: three zero seven to ninety is the numbers is Nick?
Speaker 2: When it comes to talent, the youngest guy on this team,
Speaker 2: the only freshman, probably has more talent than anybody, which
Speaker 2: is why he was a top forty player. Overall, there's
Speaker 2: no reason he shouldn't be getting more minutes than what
Speaker 2: he got, or you're talking about Khanni Russ and I
Speaker 2: think it's a really good point that it's a good example.
Speaker 2: And look, he's only played one game and he came
Speaker 2: in and you know he didn't do a whole lot
Speaker 2: because he didn't play a lot of minutes, but he
Speaker 2: had a step back three And even in the exhibition
Speaker 2: games or the morehead game, when you see Kahani in
Speaker 2: limited action, it's probably not as noticeable to a casual observer,
Speaker 2: but if you're paying close enough attention, you've probably seen
Speaker 2: at least something throughout any of the exhibitions, rather it
Speaker 2: be Bahamas or the ones they played a couple the
Speaker 2: last couple of months, whatever, maybe where you can see okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: that guy he's a freshman, but man, you can see
Speaker 2: that he was a top forty talent. You can see
Speaker 2: why he had options to go to a lot of
Speaker 2: big time schools. So he's you know, he's the exact
Speaker 2: opposite of the rest of this roster. But at times,
Speaker 2: you know you need talent. It's not just based off
Speaker 2: of experience, like Ahni Ruths is not going to be
Speaker 2: as consistent as some of these guys, isn't as physically mature,
Speaker 2: isn't clearly as you know, there's gonna be. It's gonna
Speaker 2: be a balancing act for Pat Kelsey because do you
Speaker 2: just throw him out there and let him cut his
Speaker 2: teeth now and give him more minutes than maybe you
Speaker 2: planned on it because you know that you're gonna need
Speaker 2: to rely on his god given ability that a lot
Speaker 2: of these guys don't have. I mean, that's a decision
Speaker 2: he's gonna have to make because Ruths is a guy that,
Speaker 2: again you can just tell that he has some ability
Speaker 2: that the other guys don't have. But then again, there's
Speaker 2: gonna be games where he makes freshman mistakes. He's having
Speaker 2: some growing pains, whereas if maybe those minutes that he
Speaker 2: got were given to somebody like a case in prior
Speaker 2: or a trail ray, that maybe they w and't have
Speaker 2: had those youthful mistakes. Now you only have one young guy,
Speaker 2: so the majority of this team is going to be
Speaker 2: And that's why I actually think Russ getting thrown in
Speaker 2: there is something I'd be cool with because I think
Speaker 2: he's going to be playing around nothing but veterans really
Speaker 2: throughout the I mean that's all you have is veterans
Speaker 2: and then one freshman. So you know, one guy in
Speaker 2: the pack with a bunch of old dudes. I think
Speaker 2: the benefit is worth it to let him make the
Speaker 2: mental mistake or the freshman mistake here and there have
Speaker 2: those growing pains, because he'll only get better from it.
Speaker 2: He'll grow to where maybe in February you're saying, this
Speaker 2: guy's not a freshman anymore. So it's all about balancing.
Speaker 2: And I don't mean just Louisville. It's college basketball, right,
Speaker 2: Like clearly Duke is a team that is really reliant
Speaker 2: upon freshmen to produce, and those guys last night again
Speaker 2: the best players on the floor were the three freshmen
Speaker 2: of Duke, and the guys that John shi are put
Speaker 2: in place next to them aren't anywhere close to his
Speaker 2: talented as those three that trio, but you know they
Speaker 2: have value too. You got to balance it, right, there's
Speaker 2: no I mean, you can find some teams that have
Speaker 2: won championships over the years that was, you know, led
Speaker 2: by star freshmen, but nearly all of them had really
Speaker 2: important guys that weren't freshmen. They were veterans. They weren't
Speaker 2: NBA prospects, but they were important and without those guys,
Speaker 2: you probably don't win a title. So you don't really
Speaker 2: have the ability to balance it in a major way
Speaker 2: because again, your roster is built with mostly veterans, and
Speaker 2: that's okay too, like you can win that way as well.
Speaker 2: But Tennessee they had a mixture, right, They don't play
Speaker 2: that many young guys, but you know, they had some veterans,
Speaker 2: some dudes that maybe didn't put up the numbers that
Speaker 2: Terrence Edwards did at James Madison. Maybe they didn't put
Speaker 2: up the numbers the case in Prior put up at
Speaker 2: South Florida or even you know what Trey ore did
Speaker 2: stuff in the statu sheet at Long Beach State. But
Speaker 2: they've been sitting kind of waiting for their opportunity at
Speaker 2: a place like Tennessee. And their stats weren't impressive, their
Speaker 2: role wasn't great, but they're at Tennessee because they were
Speaker 2: likely at minimum of four star recruit and that stuff matters.
Speaker 2: There's no perfect way to do it. It's just how
Speaker 2: you can balance it. And you know, unfortunately, there's not
Speaker 2: a whole lot of balancing that Pat can do because
Speaker 2: you know his roster is mostly veterans, and the ceiling
Speaker 2: for these like put it this way, I think the
Speaker 2: majority of the guys that you're watching this year for Louisville,
Speaker 2: they're probably pretty close to their ceiling, right, Like, they
Speaker 2: can shoot better, they can have, you know, better nights
Speaker 2: than what we saw against Tennessee, but like, how much
Speaker 2: better are they gonna get? And that sounds like an insult,
Speaker 2: and I don't mean it that way. It's just I
Speaker 2: mean that you bought these guys as is right, it's
Speaker 2: kind of it's kind of how it worked out. So
Speaker 2: throwing a freshman out there knowing that he is going
Speaker 2: to get better. Now, again, you can't put yourself in
Speaker 2: a position to where the freshman's making so many young
Speaker 2: mistakes that like you got to take him out of
Speaker 2: the game or he'll blow it for you. But I
Speaker 2: don't really think you have to worry about that because
Speaker 2: even if Bruce was playing twenty five minutes a game,
Speaker 2: he's not running the team. And he's not and again,
Speaker 2: it's more of a system thing for Pat than it is, Hey,
Speaker 2: we're going to play like and that's where you know,
Speaker 2: he's got to figure that out and hopefully he will.
Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is Pat Kelsey's got
Speaker 2: to figure out, Okay, these guys fit what I want
Speaker 2: to do. But whenever that's not working, which pieces can
Speaker 2: I put together? What five man rotation can I put
Speaker 2: out there? Or what kind of what lineup can I
Speaker 2: put out there? They can do some things that isn't
Speaker 2: necessarily based off of a system. Who can who can
Speaker 2: isolate somebody, who can take advantage of potential mismatches? Who
Speaker 2: can we run sets for to get him an open
Speaker 2: look that aren't you know that isn't just an open
Speaker 2: looking transition because we're playing fast and spacing the floor
Speaker 2: and I'm sure they're working on things like that, and
Speaker 2: we'll see when they get to the Bahamas if they've
Speaker 2: made some big improvements in that regard. Now back to
Speaker 2: your original point, Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying Ruth
Speaker 2: should be stars and playing thirty minutes a game, but
Speaker 2: I think the risk is worth the reward if you
Speaker 2: get a guy that by later in the year you're
Speaker 2: not really thinking about him as a freshman and you're
Speaker 2: seeing the real reason why he was a borderline McDonald's
Speaker 2: all American and one of the ten highest rated recruits to
Speaker 2: ever come to Louisville. Like then, that's worth it, all right,
Speaker 2: quick break, We got the five o'clock hour coming up next.
Speaker 2: A lot to get through before we run out of time,
Speaker 2: so stick with us. We'll try to finish strong here.
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