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Speaker 2: The event that we saw forth coming six months ago
Speaker 2: with the main event of Bloodline. Bloodline is here. Now
Speaker 2: the question is what are the implications what happens? Seth
Speaker 2: get involved, does the Rock get involved? Do neither get involved?
Speaker 2: I would think that Seth is more likely than the Rock,
Speaker 2: but the Rock is still probable to show up. We'll
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Speaker 2: of the show, and we will start with Freeman. He says,
Speaker 2: So wargames looks to be rather uninteresting, So let's cast
Speaker 2: out a bit further. Who are you expecting to win
Speaker 2: at the Rumble this year? Last time? This time last year,
Speaker 2: it was clear Cody and Bailey were heavy favorites. But
Speaker 2: I'm honestly stumped this year. Well, I mean that's a
Speaker 2: heck of a question. I mean, who do I think
Speaker 2: could actually win? I mean, I think there's a good
Speaker 2: chance John seen It does. He's the current betting favorite.
Speaker 2: He's the current betting favorite. I know you're mentioning here
Speaker 2: that you think Solo or Jacob Fatu will win the Mens,
Speaker 2: but you have no idea on the women. Rhea maybe
Speaker 2: just would feel lame. If Charlotte makes a return, I'd
Speaker 2: give it to her, but I don't expect anybody, so
Speaker 2: maybe Bianca, what are your thoughts? Yes, So again, John
Speaker 2: Cena is a pretty heavy favorite looking at the current
Speaker 2: betting odds, which often do play out. You also have
Speaker 2: the rock CM Punk Roman Reigns and Gunther and Seth Rollins,
Speaker 2: Jay Usso as their top five or six. There's dark
Speaker 2: horses like Damian Priest, like Drew McIntyre, like Kevin Owens,
Speaker 2: like even Stone Cold Steam. Austin is a twenty five
Speaker 2: to one favorite right now, which is just I mean,
Speaker 2: it's just not gonna happen, Stole Cold winning the Rumbles,
Speaker 2: It's not happening. I mean, Austin, I think, will finally
Speaker 2: show up this year and give us what we deserve.
Speaker 2: Which is a stunner to the rock that we missed
Speaker 2: out on last year because of money, and that's really
Speaker 2: the only reason he did not. I know, he gave
Speaker 2: us the reason that it was something with his wife
Speaker 2: and he had prior commitments, which is a bunch of nonsense.
Speaker 2: It's clearly just money and he didn't want to look
Speaker 2: like a jerk, and I understand that. But so as
Speaker 2: far as the women go, I mean, that's a tough one. Bianca.
Speaker 2: I think Is is in the conversation, Charlotte's in the
Speaker 2: conversation Jade. I don't think Is. There's not a chance
Speaker 2: she'll she'll make an impact if she's back from injury.
Speaker 2: But I don't think Jade is a serious contender to win.
Speaker 2: She's nowhere near clearly ready to be in a singles role.
Speaker 2: But the women are tough. The women are tough. Outside
Speaker 2: of maybe an NXT call up, the women are not easy.
Speaker 2: Rhea would be very boring. As good as good as
Speaker 2: she is and as much of a fan favorite she is,
Speaker 2: she's not exciting from a Royal Rumble perspective. You have
Speaker 2: Tiffany Stratton, but she's the money, the bank winner. She
Speaker 2: hasn't cashed in yet, so I don't think there's a
Speaker 2: chance she'll win. So it's a tough one. The women
Speaker 2: are very difficult, and no one really stands out to you.
Speaker 2: Charlotte is in my mind, probably the favorite if she
Speaker 2: ever decides to return. Also, something I've been pondering, how
Speaker 2: are the NXT call ups doing? From the draft this year?
Speaker 2: Tiffany and Brawn seems to be a big success, dragon
Speaker 2: Off was coming along great until his injury, and Dragonly
Speaker 2: seems to be getting steady TV time as Mellow. But
Speaker 2: what happened with Kia James Blair Davenport. You can honestly
Speaker 2: forget they exist, let alone got called up. What was
Speaker 2: the point of calling them up and to do nothing
Speaker 2: with them? What are your thoughts on all the call ups? Well,
Speaker 2: speaking to the ones that you pointed out here specifically, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean tiff and Braun clearly the standouts, you know,
Speaker 2: and there's always going to be standouts. This is not
Speaker 2: really a surprise. This is actually normal because out of
Speaker 2: a class of call ups, you're only going to have
Speaker 2: a select few that are going to be deemed success. Now,
Speaker 2: we can't really write the book off on anybody else yet,
Speaker 2: it's only been a year about not even, so there's
Speaker 2: time to really make a determination on the others. But
Speaker 2: Tiff and Braun, no doubt about it, as of right now,
Speaker 2: are the favorites of you know, who's been the most
Speaker 2: successful with the NXT call ups. Dragonof did make an impact.
Speaker 2: He I had to remember his His promos and pre
Speaker 2: taped interviews are very effective. And Dragon Lee does to
Speaker 2: be seem to be getting TV time, which is a positive.
Speaker 2: But on the same side of the coin here, he's
Speaker 2: also not getting any MIC time. He's not getting any
Speaker 2: time to develop a character. He's just living in the
Speaker 2: shadow of kind of Ray Mysterio and the LWO. So
Speaker 2: it's not really kind of a a attractive differentiating factor
Speaker 2: for Dragon or for Dragon Lee. He's always again going
Speaker 2: to be Ray Mysterio Light just I think that's unfortunately
Speaker 2: going to be where he lives. He's good in the ring,
Speaker 2: but I don't think anybody has an emotional attachment to
Speaker 2: Dragon Lee. Well you know what you're gonna get with him,
Speaker 2: fun match, exciting match, Luca style match, but there's no
Speaker 2: real connection with his character. He doesn't really have a
Speaker 2: character that's just you know, kind of the the nature
Speaker 2: of his character right now, which is not having one
Speaker 2: other than being a Raymisterio you know Version two point
Speaker 2: zero and Kira James Blair Davenport. Yet you're right, I mean,
Speaker 2: people forgot they even exist. I mean, and also not
Speaker 2: everybody's going to have a plan for them when they
Speaker 2: come up, even for top talent. Sometimes that get called up,
Speaker 2: they say, I don't really know what the plan is,
Speaker 2: We're just doing this. So it's not a shock to
Speaker 2: learn that talent that aren't featured that much don't have
Speaker 2: a plan. WW doesn't have a plan for them. It's
Speaker 2: the way they do business a lot of times, for
Speaker 2: better or worse. So yeah, this is not a shock,
Speaker 2: though I'm not sitting here super disappointed because that's normal.
Speaker 2: This is normal where you have a couple great standouts,
Speaker 2: some in the middle that have TV time but no
Speaker 2: really defining characteristics, and then a few at the bottom
Speaker 2: that you just go, oh, yeah, I forgot they exist.
Speaker 2: So thanks Freeman. All right, let's go to DJ and
Speaker 2: he says what was once three matches has now become
Speaker 2: a five match. Pl I guess the saying is true,
Speaker 2: better late than never. I just don't understand why it
Speaker 2: took so long to book the final two matches. Plus
Speaker 2: I don't ever remember if WWE ever had a three
Speaker 2: match pl under the Triple H regime. I don't think
Speaker 2: he has. I think five is about where he's lived
Speaker 2: before I get to the predictions. Interesting to note that
Speaker 2: there's no Women's Championship match for Raw and SmackDown as
Speaker 2: all the champions, including one half of the women's tag
Speaker 2: team champions, are involved in this very odd booking of
Speaker 2: the women's War Games match. In my opinion, another pl
Speaker 2: that does not have the Wyatt Six being featured. For
Speaker 2: the past few weeks, the White Six and the Final
Speaker 2: Testament have been feuding, and yet it seems like the
Speaker 2: Wide Six have only been exclusive to Raw and never
Speaker 2: show up at a pl That's true. THEE Six, I've
Speaker 2: been a bit concerned about them for several weeks now,
Speaker 2: and even during their debut while it was exciting, and
Speaker 2: they're they're really living off the legacy of Bray Wyatt
Speaker 2: and what he left. That kind of is where you know,
Speaker 2: their strongest point is is they're living off Bray Wyatt
Speaker 2: and they try to give them identities. The VHS tapes
Speaker 2: helped and then they fell off the radar for a while,
Speaker 2: and you know, they're not even included a lot of
Speaker 2: times on the Highlights of Raw if you just watch
Speaker 2: the Highlights of Raw, or if you watch the Hulu
Speaker 2: version whatever, a lot of times they're not there, and
Speaker 2: if you don't see them, they're out of sight, out
Speaker 2: of mind. They're also not really doing a whole lot
Speaker 2: of anything. They're feuding with the Final Testament, which helps
Speaker 2: the Final Testament more than it helps the Wied Six.
Speaker 2: But until the Six work with someone like the Bloodline,
Speaker 2: which could happen and may even get hinted at at
Speaker 2: the Royal Rumble, which is my guess when these you know,
Speaker 2: these individuals mix it up in a kind of co
Speaker 2: branded match, and that's when we may get a tease,
Speaker 2: and it could be that the Wye Six are going
Speaker 2: to take on Solo's bloodline at WrestleMania. If you have
Speaker 2: The Rock taking on Cody or The Rock taking on Roman,
Speaker 2: that's filled up. You don't need to have any version
Speaker 2: of the of Solo's bloodline involved with Roman reigns or
Speaker 2: jay Us, So it's possible. So that's how I imagine this happening.
Speaker 2: Is the wyat six and the Bloodline eventually mix it
Speaker 2: up the New blood Line all right, number three, and
Speaker 2: yet again there are no Tag Team Championship matches on
Speaker 2: a pl e. It seems like WrestleMania is the only
Speaker 2: plee that tag team wrestling for the Championship will make
Speaker 2: an appearance. Well, that's kind of part for the course,
Speaker 2: as w WE continues to treat the Tag Team Championships,
Speaker 2: especially the women, as a oh, yeah, we have that belts, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we have that championship over here. I forgot about that.
Speaker 2: It's kind of the way that they approach the Tag
Speaker 2: Team Championship. So the tag team divisions, I should say,
Speaker 2: really as a whole, no match for tag any match
Speaker 2: that doesn't have to do with the Tag Team Championship
Speaker 2: is very rarely more than ten minutes. And we saw
Speaker 2: this especially play out this past week, where it was
Speaker 2: very much a you know, every tag team match that
Speaker 2: there was was ten minutes or less, not a minute more.
Speaker 2: And that's the way that they've treated tag teams generally,
Speaker 2: and sometimes much worse. Tag team divisions and professional wrestling
Speaker 2: in the world of w WE have never been a priority,
Speaker 2: and it's not really a shock that they're not on
Speaker 2: a PL. I mean you'll also see again no women's match,
Speaker 2: no women's championship match either. But that's also a side
Speaker 2: effect of Triple H's structuring of ples, which is fewer matches,
Speaker 2: longer matches. But that's you know again, the benefit of
Speaker 2: that is the stories that are worthy of ples are
Speaker 2: usually better. There's fewer of them, which means, as fans,
Speaker 2: we get to see stories play out in a match
Speaker 2: that you otherwise wouldn't get in a I have to six, seven,
Speaker 2: even ten minute match. A lot of these are fifteen minutes, sixteen,
Speaker 2: sometimes twenty plus minutes, depending on the event. So there's
Speaker 2: really definitely advantages to fewer but longer matches, which has
Speaker 2: been definitely Triple ah's philosophy, and actually I would actually
Speaker 2: prefer it. Okay, your Survivisories predictions, no Cody, but possible
Speaker 2: SETH appearance. So first Gunther and Priest, you're thinking Gunther
Speaker 2: retains Knight and Shinske you're predicting that La Night wins
Speaker 2: due to the match ending in a possible DQ. This
Speaker 2: is their first matchup, and I don't like the idea
Speaker 2: that Shinske could get pinned easily by La Knight. I
Speaker 2: think there's more to this darker version of Shinske that
Speaker 2: kind of resembles a dark persona of the Great Muda.
Speaker 2: I think this feud could go two or three more matches. Okay,
Speaker 2: bron Breaker versus Seamus versus Ludwig Kaiser in another, wait
Speaker 2: for it, folks, good old fashioned triple threat match. I
Speaker 2: predict Breaker wins, and of course guys don't get because
Speaker 2: of triple threat. That means that there's no rules, right,
Speaker 2: you can use weapons. Somebody has yet to explain why
Speaker 2: adding a third person negates the traditional structure of a match.
Speaker 2: You know, like the idea that a third person immediately
Speaker 2: takes away the rules of no weapons, no foreign objects,
Speaker 2: no can If a third person enters the match, low
Speaker 2: blows are legal. How does that work? I know that
Speaker 2: the idea is that you can have How are you
Speaker 2: going to enforce the rules? What happens you can't have
Speaker 2: a DQ in a triple threat? Well, what you do
Speaker 2: is that person gets caught cheating throughout and then it
Speaker 2: becomes a one on one. That's it verily simple. If
Speaker 2: that person decides to use a chair or use a
Speaker 2: for an object or a low blow or whatever, and
Speaker 2: they get caught, they're out of the match. You don't
Speaker 2: end the match. They're the ones that suffer. But I
Speaker 2: don't know why they won't implement that. It's just automatically
Speaker 2: a no DQ match. All right, Women's Wargames Live, Morgan's
Speaker 2: team wins. Men's Wargames. You're predicting the og bloodline team wins,
Speaker 2: and then the final boss makes it appearance and we
Speaker 2: possibly get another cmpunk and seth Rollins confrontation similar to
Speaker 2: last year's wargames. Yes, it's possible. I will say that,
Speaker 2: and I'll leave it that until I get to my predictions,
Speaker 2: which are coming up momentarily. So thank you DJ. Let's
Speaker 2: talk to another I believe it's another patron. I got
Speaker 2: to dig into the community tab here of our patreon side,
Speaker 2: and let's talk to Charlie. He says, what's going on, everyone,
Speaker 2: It's Charlie from Milwaukee.
Speaker 1: Help.
Speaker 2: Everyone had a great Thanksgiving. My dad surprised me with
Speaker 2: tickets to Survivors series. We just landed in Vancouver early
Speaker 2: this morning. I think it's a long time. I think
Speaker 2: it's long, but I'm gonna ask anyway if we're able
Speaker 2: to do a serious review. Yeah. Hey, it's I cannot
Speaker 2: come up with a solid schedule, so it's just something
Speaker 2: that probably won't happen because I don't want to commit
Speaker 2: to a time and then change it four times. So
Speaker 2: first of all, I would absolutely love your feedback. If
Speaker 2: you want to email me through here or on my
Speaker 2: regular email, that's fine. I'd love to hear your in
Speaker 2: person you know, notes that you want to get across
Speaker 2: to us that are listeners. I'd love to hear what
Speaker 2: those are. But I'm jealous. So you're going to Vancouver,
Speaker 2: so you just landed. Damn, Charlie, you can't do this.
Speaker 2: You're making us all, you know, very much jealous. I
Speaker 2: think because somebody's surprising with tickets. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 2: a big deal. You're at a Big four event, my friend.
Speaker 2: Big things happen here, and you're gonna get either a
Speaker 2: seth rollins interference, you're gonna get a rock appearance. I
Speaker 2: think the rock appearance is fifty to fifty and but
Speaker 2: there's a solid chance you could see the rock in person,
Speaker 2: which is really damn cool. And yeah, I'd love to
Speaker 2: hear your in person feedback, even send a voice melon
Speaker 2: all right, Jeff, Jeff T says La Knight wins and
Speaker 2: keeps the title. Bron Breaker wins, Gunther wins, Rhea's team wins,
Speaker 2: and hopefully a Tiffany cash in, and the main event
Speaker 2: the new bloodline I feel is gonna win and then
Speaker 2: see him Punk and Hayman turn Ooh. As much as
Speaker 2: we don't want it to, I do think Hayman is
Speaker 2: up to something, whether it's Punk and him turning, or
Speaker 2: he is turning and joining solo. I don't see the
Speaker 2: Rock coming out because he is running around doing Moana
Speaker 2: two promos and filming the live action film. We'll see.
Speaker 2: Hope you and everyone had a great Thanksgiving and it's
Speaker 2: time to be a wrestling fancy everybody in the discord chat.
Speaker 2: Yeah that thank you for reminding me hope everyone had
Speaker 2: a good Thanksgiving. I should have led that at the
Speaker 2: beginning of the show, but I forgot him. I'm just
Speaker 2: kind of Thanksgiving doubt. I'm ready ready to move on,
Speaker 2: but that is you know, that's something here, Jeff, that
Speaker 2: you bring up that I I have have. I have
Speaker 2: my issues with believing. I'm struggling with the possibility that
Speaker 2: it could happen that Cmpunk and Hayman turn first of all,
Speaker 2: and it needs to be continued to be said, is
Speaker 2: Cmpunk is not a raw is on raw, He's not
Speaker 2: a SmackDown star, Yet no one cares because the story
Speaker 2: warrants that Sampunk comes in, and yet no one is
Speaker 2: saying anything. That GM is not saying anything. He should
Speaker 2: be the first one to say something. The GM is
Speaker 2: the one in charge of that brand. So if you
Speaker 2: have stars on your brand that should not be there,
Speaker 2: that should I mean, that's like a you know, that'd
Speaker 2: be like the first task at hand here is make
Speaker 2: sure people that aren't there, that are there that shouldn't
Speaker 2: be get booted or at least explain why they are there.
Speaker 2: But they don't do it because they don't care, and
Speaker 2: they that think the fans don't care. I'm on the fringe,
Speaker 2: but I'll continue to say it because it continues to
Speaker 2: be warranted to be said. That said, the idea that
Speaker 2: Punk and Hayman turn and the shirt that Hayman was
Speaker 2: wearing with the red shirt War that he wore as
Speaker 2: upon his return reflected the shirt that Solo war. Is
Speaker 2: there a bit of coherence? There is there a connection, yes,
Speaker 2: but does it mean anything? I hope not. I don't
Speaker 2: want it? And then what's gonna happen? Brocola's I mean, like,
Speaker 2: what what happens here? What's the what's the end game? Like?
Speaker 2: Say you're right, Jeff right, Say say Punk and Hayman turn, Okay, surprise,
Speaker 2: you know he turns. Then what is the biggest question?
Speaker 2: What do you do from there? He turning? Just to turn?
Speaker 2: And then what you know, what is the end game?
Speaker 2: Is Punk going to remain on SmackDown? What about seth Rollins?
Speaker 2: Does he suddenly defect the smack Down? Because Seeampunk turned,
Speaker 2: Because if he doesn't, how you're gonna get to seth
Speaker 2: Rollins in Punk? I guess he could come back to
Speaker 2: Raw because again, no brand rules when they don't want them.
Speaker 2: It's just I don't see the benefit in it. The
Speaker 2: Rock makes much more sense to appear because he's actually
Speaker 2: involved in the story. He even made an appearance at
Speaker 2: Bad Blood Stood there didn't do much. Set a bunch
Speaker 2: of stuff backstage that was in a you know, a
Speaker 2: post later on W's YouTube channel, and there was a
Speaker 2: lot you can dissect in that kind of rant that
Speaker 2: he went on backstage. But outside of that, there's you know,
Speaker 2: it doesn't make much sense for Punk to turn. He's
Speaker 2: clearly and should be clearly focused on seth rollins. I
Speaker 2: don't need Punk turning and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: Punk and Roman are going at it. But that's that's
Speaker 2: not the story right now now. Punk will, I think,
Speaker 2: eventually turn, and I think Punk and Roman will eventually
Speaker 2: have a program in twenty twenty five, but I don't
Speaker 2: think right now, there's no there's no room for it,
Speaker 2: there's no Roman told. This story with the Rock is complete,
Speaker 2: and Solo and Roman ares are, you know, have settled
Speaker 2: their differences and clearly the programs have been played out
Speaker 2: and we're ready to move on. We're not there yet,
Speaker 2: so Punk would be a total like redirection of the story.
Speaker 2: It's not again, your idea is not bad, Jeff, it
Speaker 2: just doesn't make sense right now. It makes sense, makes big,
Speaker 2: a lot of sense. But in twenty twenty five it
Speaker 2: would really just I think, be a big mistake to
Speaker 2: do that right now, because that's not the story that's
Speaker 2: being told. It would muddy the waters unnecessarily. It would
Speaker 2: be exciting, Yes, it would get clicks, Yes it would
Speaker 2: get attention and a million views, and yeah it would,
Speaker 2: but then fans are gonna sit back and go cool.
Speaker 2: So like, now, what what are we doing here? That's
Speaker 2: my concern. So but thank you, Jeff. I do appreciate
Speaker 2: your your feedback. End. You're not wrong. I just think
Speaker 2: it's not yet, is how I would phrase it. All right,
Speaker 2: let's get to I believe one and then we'll get
Speaker 2: to my predictions.
Speaker 3: This is DJ coolesmel Back added again on your mailback
Speaker 3: show records. You live on the Wednesday board, and you
Speaker 3: know what time it is. It's time to.
Speaker 2: See his name man, he peers. I believe in Joe Hendry.
Speaker 2: I believe in Joe Hendry.
Speaker 3: Desroit, folks, Joe Hendry is his name. As I take
Speaker 3: it to my toy ded episode of the Joe Hendre
Speaker 3: Report coming to life once again from a no disclosed location.
Speaker 3: I must mention before we start the show, Happy Thanksgiving
Speaker 3: to all of the w podcast listeners up here in
Speaker 3: the United States. It's all about the family, the food,
Speaker 3: and the football. This Thursday, as we get to I
Speaker 3: guess reflect, give thanks, and celebrate another year, whether good
Speaker 3: or bad. This is a good time to reflect before
Speaker 3: we get into twenty twenty five. So I hope you
Speaker 3: enjoy your Thanksgiving, eat as much turkey, watch a lot
Speaker 3: of football, and of course this coming Saturday is Survivors
Speaker 3: Series War Games. Now let's get to the toy DD
Speaker 3: episode of the Joe Hendre Report. As I did mention,
Speaker 3: it is all Rosalie to win the Salem, North Carolina
Speaker 3: for tena's next pay per view event called teena turning
Speaker 3: point as Joe Hendry will be included in a sixth
Speaker 3: way Thanksgiving Turkey Bowl match. Like I did mention last week,
Speaker 3: the loser, the person that gets pinned ar summitted, must
Speaker 3: be forced to wear a Turkey suit. Hopefully Joe Hendry
Speaker 3: is not that guy to wear a Turkey suit, and
Speaker 3: hopefully he wins the match. But anyway, last week, on
Speaker 3: the TV taping of tn par Wrestling, none other than
Speaker 3: Joe Hendry mentions to the crowd that his focus is
Speaker 3: still the TNA World Heavyweight Championship, even though he's involved
Speaker 3: in this Turkey Bowl match. His focus is still to
Speaker 3: get back into the main event to compete against none
Speaker 3: of the nicknameon for the TENA World Heavyweight Championship. He
Speaker 3: thanks the fans for a tremendous year, a breakout year,
Speaker 3: a year of success that he was featured on WWE
Speaker 3: and NXT, and of course he was in the main
Speaker 3: event at TEENA Slummiversary for the TENA World Heavyweight Championship.
Speaker 3: At all of the trialsations. He's a social media sensation
Speaker 3: and everything that people have been saying about how they
Speaker 3: believe in Joe Hendry, all the wrestlers that believed in
Speaker 3: Joe Hendry. But like I did mention before, he did
Speaker 3: say as always that his focus right now is the
Speaker 3: TNA World Heavyweight champions Let's get to what happened outside
Speaker 3: of TNA. As Joe Hendry was in New Jersey, stock Home,
Speaker 3: New Jersey. As of course, you know Joe Hendre likes
Speaker 3: to promote the brand as he goes to different places.
Speaker 3: So this past Sunday, November twenty four, at stock Home,
Speaker 3: New Jersey, Joe Hendry did a meet and greet at
Speaker 3: the Wrestling Collector. Now would that being said as I
Speaker 3: close off this, Joe hendriport Happy Thanksgiving, Remember to believe,
Speaker 3: remember to say his name, always, remember the words that
Speaker 3: Joe Hendry says any time, any place, at any show,
Speaker 3: and most of poorly, most and poorly do this.
Speaker 4: Stock will have the bab Zoo.
Speaker 3: Once again, this is your guy, DJ Coolsbo have my
Speaker 3: blessed week, big guy to one of those stays in
Speaker 3: my friends believe ed piece.
Speaker 2: All right, DJ, thank thank you so much and happy
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving you as well. Hope you're doing well and hope
Speaker 2: it was it was good for you, And thank you
Speaker 2: for the Joe Hendrew report, as we can follow what
Speaker 2: the hell he's doing over there in TNA, and his focus,
Speaker 2: as you said, is the TNA World Heavyweight Championship fighting Nicknammeth.
Speaker 2: And that's fine. And uh, you know a lot of
Speaker 2: fans WW fans I know don't follow TNA, don't understand
Speaker 2: what the hell's going on there, or maybe they just
Speaker 2: don't care. It's you know, you're a w W fan
Speaker 2: a lot of times you're just loyal to WWE. But uh,
Speaker 2: as I say every week, very appreciative that you're able
Speaker 2: to give us an insight into TNA and maybe it'll
Speaker 2: bring some people over to see what the hell's going
Speaker 2: on over in TNA. Also, I hope it doesn't have
Speaker 2: to wear the chicken suit like I just I hope
Speaker 2: that's uh, I hope that's not what happens to uh
Speaker 2: to uh Joe Henry. We'll see, but I appreciated GJ
Speaker 2: and I hope all is well over there and you're
Speaker 2: safe over there in your undisclosed location. All right, let's
Speaker 2: get to my official preview and predictions for the event
Speaker 2: here the pl and let's see where I want to start.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna start here with the Wargames match. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna start with the women's Wargames match because I don't
Speaker 2: think it's gotten a ton of attention. This is likely
Speaker 2: the match that's going to open the show. I think
Speaker 2: it will open the show. It should open the show
Speaker 2: with the Wargames match. Here with the women, Ria Ripley,
Speaker 2: Bianca Bailey, Naomi and Eosky versus liv Morgan, Ni Jacks,
Speaker 2: Raquel Rodriguez, Tippany Stratton and Candaelearet. This match should be
Speaker 2: a lot of fun. I think it's a lot of
Speaker 2: fans are overlooking it, and it's because the story is
Speaker 2: kind of a I don't want to say boring, but
Speaker 2: it's not that it's boiling boiling point. The folk is
Speaker 2: clearly Riha getting her hands on live and it has
Speaker 2: been for months now. Ria Ripley was back faster from
Speaker 2: her injury than anybody thought was possible, and she'll have
Speaker 2: her face mask on as she should. I mean, you
Speaker 2: break your orbital bone, you gotta keep that damn thing safe.
Speaker 2: So Rea Ripley getting her hands on Live should be fun.
Speaker 2: Ria Ripley going against Nia Jacks, that should be a
Speaker 2: kind of a fun confrontation. Bianca bell Air finally getting
Speaker 2: her damn you know, singles roll back at least maybe
Speaker 2: until Jade comes back, which reporting is conflicting on that
Speaker 2: some of her a month, two months, three months or longer.
Speaker 2: I would say probably in time for WrestleMania. Seems to
Speaker 2: be a safe bet. And if she's back before then wonderful.
Speaker 2: But right now, Bianca is I mean, just by the
Speaker 2: grace of God with a freak injury to Jade, a
Speaker 2: single star, so that's good. And right now, Tiffty Stratton
Speaker 2: and you know, Candice Larray are kind of the back
Speaker 2: end of the the team here that round off to
Speaker 2: Live Morgan's side. How do I think this is gonna end?
Speaker 2: Probably with probably with a Rea Ripley team. Victory doesn't
Speaker 2: hurt Live, there's no titles on the line. Bianca Belle
Speaker 2: Air back into kind of a singles role, revived, a
Speaker 2: bit Bailey the final member here joining. I think those
Speaker 2: three powerhouse women are ready to get a victory. In
Speaker 2: need of victory, Rhea again coming back from injury. It's
Speaker 2: not gonna hurt anybody on Live Morgan's team. It's not
Speaker 2: gonna do anything. Is it possible Charlotte returns, Yes, yes
Speaker 2: it is, although I'm not gonna call for it. And
Speaker 2: the reason I'm not gonna call for Charlotte returning is
Speaker 2: because I think if I don't call for it, it'll
Speaker 2: finally happen. So I don't think it'll happen, and I
Speaker 2: think Rea Ripley's team gets the victory. All right, Let's
Speaker 2: go to the Intercontinental Championship. Braun Breaker versus Seamus versus
Speaker 2: Ludwig Kaiser. This one is shaping up to be physical
Speaker 2: as hell. I'm really excited for really Kaiser here as
Speaker 2: a potential breakout performance. I think this is Kaiser, and
Speaker 2: I may be wrong. This may be Kaiser's biggest match
Speaker 2: of his career on a big four pl e in
Speaker 2: a championship match, a very prestigious championship in the IC title.
Speaker 2: Absolutely a big match for Kaiser, and it's possible that
Speaker 2: Kaiser even comes out of this as the Intercontinental Champion.
Speaker 2: In fact, I'm part of me wants to pick Kaiser here.
Speaker 2: Are they ready to pull the trigger with Kaiser? Do
Speaker 2: they feel he's ready? They've been setting him up for
Speaker 2: several weeks. Now you have Gunther essentially saying, fly, little bird, fly,
Speaker 2: you'll leave the nest, make your own way. And Seamus,
Speaker 2: we know what he is, legacy star, Hall of Famer,
Speaker 2: not exactly exactly, a guy that's on fire right now
Speaker 2: that fans are dying this year, is a champion again.
Speaker 2: But bron Breaker kind of just want it back. However,
Speaker 2: I don't know how much more they're going to get
Speaker 2: out of his ic run. It seems like perhaps they're
Speaker 2: gonna change here to Kaiser and see what he's got
Speaker 2: now that they're giving up on Breaker. And I wouldn't
Speaker 2: by any means, but I think I'm gonna go with Kaiser.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Kaiser. I know it's not the
Speaker 2: favorite here. I think bron Breaker is the favorite. If
Speaker 2: you look at the betting odds, I expect a hell
Speaker 2: of a physical match. Here's how I think it's gonna end,
Speaker 2: though bron Breaker ends up dominating for a while he'll
Speaker 2: probably get the spear on Seamus and Kaiser goes in
Speaker 2: for the victory. I think Kaiser is going to pin
Speaker 2: Seamus for the Intercontinental Championship. Thus bron Breaker can claim
Speaker 2: he wasn't Pinder submitted as the old you know, the
Speaker 2: old logic goes. The way to protect the champion if
Speaker 2: you don't want him to get hurt by a loss,
Speaker 2: is to have him not involved in the decision. That's
Speaker 2: how you're gonna protect Breaker here. I would not be
Speaker 2: surprised if Breaker wins, and he is the favorite with
Speaker 2: good reason. But Kaiser has been on a roll and
Speaker 2: making an impact and Gun through even giving him his
Speaker 2: you know, his his pledge to go off and do
Speaker 2: your own thing. And I think Kaiser could win, and
Speaker 2: I think he might win here, and I think I'm
Speaker 2: gonna take Kaiser all right. On the counterpart to smack
Speaker 2: down with La Knight and Shinsky Nakamura for the United
Speaker 2: the United States Championship. Night and Shinsky, boy, this is
Speaker 2: not easy, and I know Knight hasn't had a long
Speaker 2: run yet and Triple H has been a fan of
Speaker 2: long runs with champions. My instinct is to pick Knight,
Speaker 2: and I think that's still most likely probable, So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go with La Knight here. However, a word of
Speaker 2: caution is Logan Paul. Now, Logan Paul has been out
Speaker 2: of WW for months now, and Shinskin Ekamura is a
Speaker 2: returning star that has turned a little darker, and there
Speaker 2: could be something to that. Knight is has been champion
Speaker 2: for several months now. I don't think his run is done,
Speaker 2: but I am slightly choosing Knight to retain because they
Speaker 2: might want him to lose on a bigger stage, but
Speaker 2: they might want to free him up for a rumble
Speaker 2: run for a you know, maybe a challenge to for
Speaker 2: a higher championship. But right now, Cody Rhads is champion,
Speaker 2: so it's kind of difficult to move up when you
Speaker 2: are clearly not going to be facing Cody Rhodes for
Speaker 2: that belt. Just it's like a square peg in a
Speaker 2: round hole with those two right now. So I would
Speaker 2: be cautious of Logan Paul possibly screwing l A. Knight,
Speaker 2: but I would say, in a very fun match, we're
Speaker 2: going to have La Knight beat shensk but it's not
Speaker 2: going to be the victory he wants. He may get
Speaker 2: the BFT and beat Shenskate clean and celebrate, and as
Speaker 2: he celebrates, Shensky recovers and beats him down brutally. So
Speaker 2: the heat. You know, Shinsky is able to get some
Speaker 2: heat back after losing. And to one of your emails earlier,
Speaker 2: I think that this is a multi month program takes
Speaker 2: us through too, maybe the Royal Rumble and so yeah,
Speaker 2: Shinzkin Nakamura loses, but I think it's in a way
Speaker 2: that either he gets a DQ and he gets frustrated
Speaker 2: with Knight and there's a DQ here, or Night wins,
Speaker 2: but immediately Shinsky gets his heat back. So all right,
Speaker 2: time for the big heavy hitters, the World Heavyweight Championship,
Speaker 2: Gunther versus Damian Priest. Boy. This one, I think is
Speaker 2: also going to be very physical. Do I think maybe
Speaker 2: Finn Balor could rear his head in this, Yes, I do.
Speaker 2: Finn Baler and Damian Priest still haven't really resolved their issues.
Speaker 2: I feel like that was kind of left open a bit,
Speaker 2: and I do think it's possible Finn Balor once again
Speaker 2: screws Damian Priest. Gunther. On the other hand, I don't
Speaker 2: think we'll have any help. I do think that Damian
Speaker 2: Priest loses, and it is likely because of interference. I
Speaker 2: don't know why they would make guntherer guy that needs
Speaker 2: help here. I don't want him to need help. But
Speaker 2: they're also and have clearly been on the path of
Speaker 2: building up Damian Priest as a guy that can intimidate
Speaker 2: even Gunther, which I don't like. As I said on
Speaker 2: my raw review, Gunther's the guy, the one guy that
Speaker 2: actually should not be intimidated. He's the one guy that intimidates.
Speaker 2: He's not the one that is intimidated. I'm not buying
Speaker 2: it here. I'm not buying that suddenly Damian Priest is
Speaker 2: the guy that rattles Gunther. Don't buy it yet, That
Speaker 2: doesn't That doesn't jive with me. So I have not
Speaker 2: been buying into what they're trying to sell me here.
Speaker 2: And I think it's done a little damage to the
Speaker 2: Gunther character of having him be rattled by him. But
Speaker 2: Gunther should retain. This one, to me is a slam dunk.
Speaker 2: I'd give it. When I say slam dunk, not a guarantee,
Speaker 2: but I'd say it's like eighty twenty that Gunther retains.
Speaker 2: We're nowhere near ready for Gunther to lose that. We
Speaker 2: have been fantasizing about a Gunther World Championship run for
Speaker 2: I mean years in some cases, since he came to
Speaker 2: the main roster, and it's finally here, and you're not
Speaker 2: gonna cut it short. There's a lot more you can
Speaker 2: do with Gunther as champion. Healed champions are also more fun.
Speaker 2: Not that Damian Priest had a bad run. He had
Speaker 2: a I think an overachieving run. But right now, Gunther
Speaker 2: is the guy you go with. He's the guy that
Speaker 2: the company can build around a little bit more on
Speaker 2: the raw side of things and have baby faces step up,
Speaker 2: and I think he's champions or at least WrestleMania all right,
Speaker 2: Roman Reigns, sammy'sz Ain, the USOS and yes, c I'm
Speaker 2: Punk with likely Paul Hayman on the outside taking on
Speaker 2: solo Sokoa, Jacob Fatu, Tomatonga Tangaloa and Big. You gotta
Speaker 2: add Big otherwise it's not Bronson, Reid, Big Bronze and Red. Okay,
Speaker 2: this one should be should be a lot of fun,
Speaker 2: no doubt. I don't care who has the advantage. The
Speaker 2: advantage match means jack. As you guys have heard from me,
Speaker 2: In fact, I expect fully a one chance of Jacob
Speaker 2: Fatu winning that advantage match over Jimmy us So to
Speaker 2: get the advantage, and it makes sense you want, I
Speaker 2: think in this case the team, the baby faced team
Speaker 2: to be quote unquote disadvantaged, which again I explained why
Speaker 2: that's not really a thing in this match, but that's
Speaker 2: how you they're going to play it, that's the story
Speaker 2: they're telling. So fine. Now the question is for a
Speaker 2: lot of people is not necessarily who's even going to
Speaker 2: win this The questions have not even been yet, like
Speaker 2: like who's going to be victorious, which is kind of odd.
Speaker 2: The question is who returns or who turns? Does again
Speaker 2: i'd say in order of likelihood from least likely to
Speaker 2: most likely, I would say brock Lessner's the least likely.
Speaker 2: I don't know where you even fit him in here.
Speaker 2: He would have been what Seampunk's doing. So I think
Speaker 2: brock Lessner is unlikely, very unlikely, but at least he's
Speaker 2: in the universe of possibility. And then I think you
Speaker 2: have the rock second in line. I think he's a
Speaker 2: fifth fifty shot. And then the most likely to return
Speaker 2: is seth rollins Am I say return, I mean show
Speaker 2: up because he's back. He's not like on injury or something.
Speaker 2: And I think Seth Rollins here has something to say
Speaker 2: about Bronson Reid, and I think he comes in and
Speaker 2: if he doesn't do what I expected him to do
Speaker 2: in my kind of I think I said it in
Speaker 2: the Raw review where he comes in and he does
Speaker 2: what he did last year, and except he does it
Speaker 2: to Punk. Right in this case, he may do it
Speaker 2: to Punk and Punk's victorious and he's standing there and
Speaker 2: Seth Rollins then comes out, and it's just the roles
Speaker 2: are now reversed from last year where Punk came out
Speaker 2: at the end. Now Seth Rollins comes out at the
Speaker 2: end to confront you know, Punk. It's possible there, but
Speaker 2: Seth Rollins could come in in the middle of the
Speaker 2: match here stomp Bronson Reid and maybe even stomp Punk.
Speaker 2: So it's not quite a heel turn because he also
Speaker 2: attacked a heel. It's just both men get stomped. He
Speaker 2: faces off with Roman Reigns, he just stands there, stars
Speaker 2: and then leaves, So I think that's possible, or he
Speaker 2: just attacks Bronson Reid. He's got a program going on
Speaker 2: with it, so it would be almost impossible to believe
Speaker 2: he's not going to have some physical altercation with Bronson
Speaker 2: Reid in this match, whether it's after or during. But
Speaker 2: the Punk situation needs to heat up because Punk needs
Speaker 2: to get the hell away from the Bloodline. As I
Speaker 2: explained earlier, he doesn't need to be there right now.
Speaker 2: Him and Roman can have a program after Mania, and
Speaker 2: I think right now it's not time. So you have
Speaker 2: Seth Rollins come in, stomp at least Bronson Reid, maybe Punk,
Speaker 2: or at least shove him down or punch him and
Speaker 2: leave and he is eliminated because of Punk, or he
Speaker 2: loses because of Punk, or I'm sorry, because of Rollins.
Speaker 2: Rollins costs his team to match. So I think that's
Speaker 2: very possible. But Seth Rollins is going to have a
Speaker 2: hell of an impact in this match or after. And
Speaker 2: I keep saying or because both makes sense. Now the
Speaker 2: question is, but, ok, okay, who wins HM? I think
Speaker 2: the OG bloodline wins. I think they do. Do I
Speaker 2: expect to a Paul Hammond turn God, I hope not.
Speaker 2: I just explained why about ten minutes ago. But I'll
Speaker 2: go with the OG blood line. Honestly, it doesn't really
Speaker 2: matter who wins here because it's not necessarily about who wins,
Speaker 2: because number one, there's nothing on the line other than pride,
Speaker 2: and number two, it's about Seth and a possible returning Rock.
Speaker 2: So we could have a dual return of Rock and Rollins,
Speaker 2: just like we had Orton and Punk last year. So
Speaker 2: the Rock, if he comes back, let's play out the
Speaker 2: Rock scenario. I'm not even gonna deal with the brock
Speaker 2: Lesner because it's very unlikely. But with the Rock, he
Speaker 2: could do what he did last time and stand there
Speaker 2: and stare, and I think that's the most likely scenario.
Speaker 2: I don't think the Rock is a quick substitute. I
Speaker 2: don't think the Rock is physically in the match or
Speaker 2: even comes in during the match. I think if the
Speaker 2: Rock shows up, it's after the match and stands there
Speaker 2: and stares and does what he did last time, and
Speaker 2: maybe we get a little more. Maybe he comes in
Speaker 2: the ring and has a face off against somebody or
Speaker 2: just confronts Roman. You know, there's a lot that the
Speaker 2: Rock could do, But I will say the Rock is
Speaker 2: not going to be in the match. I don't see
Speaker 2: a way. The only way is if you know Punk,
Speaker 2: it's mysteriously injured, He's attacked backstage, and the rock is
Speaker 2: the substitute for a punk I mean very unlikely there.
Speaker 2: So that's how I think this is going to play
Speaker 2: out in a wild, fun, physical Wargames match. So let
Speaker 2: me recap my picks. Og Bloodline wins, Gunther retains, Live
Speaker 2: Morgan's I'm Sorry, Ripley's team wins, La Knight retains, and
Speaker 2: Ludwig Kaiser wins the Intercontinental Championship. That's my pick. Those
Speaker 2: are my picks. So let me know you guys think,
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