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<v Speaker 1>This is the point right here that my entire world changed.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you see something you can't figure what

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<v Speaker 1>it is, your mind's trying to rationalize. That's how Anna works.

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<v Speaker 1>We measured the next morning when we went out there

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<v Speaker 1>to recon it was twenty five foot from us. So

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<v Speaker 1>when it stood up, I mean, it was just a

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<v Speaker 1>mountain dover us. It was standing straight up. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>hunched over or anything. And it had a man's profile.

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<v Speaker 1>This thing had broad, massive shoulders, and it was very

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<v Speaker 1>massive creature. But I bet it's probably close to seven

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<v Speaker 1>or eight hundred pounds. Oh, it was this massive. My

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<v Speaker 1>mind's condes figure out where I'm looking at. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to say it bad, but I knew it wasn't a bear.

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<v Speaker 1>It looked like a man covered in long hair.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to welcome Steve the Bigfoot Crossroads. Steve reached

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<v Speaker 2>out to me recently and shared quite an event, my friend,

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<v Speaker 2>Quite an event. What made you decide to come forward

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<v Speaker 2>and tell your story?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's a good question, and I'll tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>you know to kind of shend some right on this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing. And this happened back to ninths and seventy five,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I just told my age erect. I was

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<v Speaker 1>a nineteen year old soldier in nineteen seventy five stationed

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<v Speaker 1>at Fort polkles In and back then I kept to

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<v Speaker 1>Societe you for all the years, just until recently a

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<v Speaker 1>few years ago. What made me come forward with it?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course I didn't come out for years and years

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<v Speaker 1>because of the fact, you know, you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>get last at it calls crazy or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that's not just that. But I just recently

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<v Speaker 1>retired a couple of years ago from a Korea law

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement in law enforcement lostry. You know, you got a

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<v Speaker 1>certain statue and you fear don't want to go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and walk around. You know two signs. I believe in

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot and I believe in UFOs or whatever. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Just it's even though a lot do they keep it

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<v Speaker 1>to themselves. I did. I didn't want to it getting

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<v Speaker 1>out and I live out in the woods, way out

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<v Speaker 1>in the country out here southwest Losing and about four

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<v Speaker 1>miles off the off the highway, and it's only five

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<v Speaker 1>or six houses on this little hill right here, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's about seven miles out my back door to the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>And the swamps the next house. I live way out here. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>I love the woods. One of my hunting partners was

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<v Speaker 1>my wife's uncle, and we heard men be married since

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty four. It came out of the military and

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<v Speaker 1>her up on. We were hunting Parker three hundred all

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<v Speaker 1>sins world shaw me hop hunted, you know, a deer hundred, squirrel,

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<v Speaker 1>hundred hundred everything. Uh one day and I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>this until I thought that day he told me. But

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<v Speaker 1>one day I was thinking about going to a swamp

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<v Speaker 1>called Ante Coca Swamp, which is about ten miles from here.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty rough training, it's pretty rough train. He was about

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<v Speaker 1>seventy three years old time, you know, so here a

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<v Speaker 1>few years ago. So I figured, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know he can make it at night because there was

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<v Speaker 1>his knees and back and everything and age. Of course

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<v Speaker 1>he was on view's views A monscar whould go ahead?

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<v Speaker 1>That was where he wanted to go. But I said, uncle, is,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see if you right, you hunt then nant Coopa

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<v Speaker 1>Swamp And he said, uh no, He shaid, I I'll

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<v Speaker 1>love to go over there at that throw, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>had to rough boys, sir. He said no, he said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>tough rough you know me. He said, I can walk

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<v Speaker 1>through the battlefield backwards. And I said, yea, yeah, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, but h I said, we don't want to know.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not a problem. He said, I am in there

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<v Speaker 1>since securifties and I said it's empties and he said yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, I said, what what happened? You heard or something?

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<v Speaker 1>He said no. He said that's not something I already

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. And he said, no one knows about this,

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<v Speaker 1>not even your wife, which is his niece. And he

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<v Speaker 1>said none of the family knew about this. And I

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<v Speaker 1>said I don't want to talk about it. And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that got my curiosity up right, And I said, uh well,

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<v Speaker 1>uncle Rosas, I said, I ain't trying to pressure y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead and come out with it. But what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>What I know? You you go anywhere? You know, we've

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<v Speaker 1>run it all over the place. I said what. He said, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be the first one and I'll tell this too,

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<v Speaker 1>but I appreciate if you don't mix it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your wife or hearing or any emails. I said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I said I Then he clammed up. He said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. I can't say it, and I can't tell

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<v Speaker 1>you well about that what he got me? And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I had a feeling he's seen something

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<v Speaker 1>to know what it was. But I said, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get him and tell his story, guess what I

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<v Speaker 1>got to do for the first half. Yeah. So I

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<v Speaker 1>went out and came out with mine and at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of my story, after I finished it, hell man

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<v Speaker 1>el Man of the rock, and he gets He was

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<v Speaker 1>almost in tears. He said, I reckon, I are crazy man.

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<v Speaker 1>And he told me his story and that he's seen

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<v Speaker 1>something very similar. It's ten miles down down a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit here at the Unicook Swamp. And that's what started

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<v Speaker 1>me right there coming out. He came out with the

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<v Speaker 1>first time and he told me his story, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>when I started realizing there are people who know, people

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<v Speaker 1>you all know that have seen these creatures have not

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<v Speaker 1>come out with their story because they're fat. There get

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<v Speaker 1>him the you know of the deeper you know, laughing

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<v Speaker 1>at him or wherever, and so uh that or we

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<v Speaker 1>uh sparked my my coming forward. After that, I had

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<v Speaker 1>started coming a couple of the people about about my

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<v Speaker 1>experience and ended up talking to a sewer that knew

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<v Speaker 1>it knew the guy who does did the a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Sasquash Theory on YouTube, and I got with him and

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<v Speaker 1>he asked me to do the show. I went ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and did it, and you know, tell my story on that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>about four months later he got a hold of me

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, hey, he said, you might want to

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<v Speaker 1>check your messages on that podcast. Man, I said, I said, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't you know, I didn't really figure i'd get

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<v Speaker 1>any response from it that much. You know, he sick

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<v Speaker 1>you pitter go. Look. Well I went back and look

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<v Speaker 1>mine In four months it drew two hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>nine thousand views. Wow, And I said, my didness. So

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<v Speaker 1>are the comments. There's people coming out and asking me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he look, your story inspired me to go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and come forward with mine. So that really I say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is something that you know in Avenue

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a blessing in a way. Now I can

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<v Speaker 1>use this holding gun in all these years, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can use this to help other people come out

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<v Speaker 1>with theirs. Yeah, and they don't have to go through

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<v Speaker 1>what I went through, giving quiet to have my whole

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<v Speaker 1>korea in law enforcement. And you know, I've taken you know,

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<v Speaker 1>reports from those some people who've seen these things, and

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<v Speaker 1>I never told them my story, of course, but I

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<v Speaker 1>admit sure they understood that I believe every word they

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<v Speaker 1>were saying without having to telling my story because I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't ready to come out yet.

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<v Speaker 2>The time you took reports personally from bigfoot encounters.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure sure did. Wow, there's been lots of sightings around here.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's when I started to realizing how many, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sightings there were. And after that, of course, what Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>told me his story, There's been several sightings out into Sabine,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not far from here, a few miles away

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<v Speaker 1>Sabine River and all area. There is lots of sidings.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, Live Black and they're out

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<v Speaker 1>here in leisure On, which is about thirty five miles

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<v Speaker 1>from here, and he did a big foot event over there,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had their first big foot event in nag

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<v Speaker 1>Is Losing there, which is about forty five miles. They

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<v Speaker 1>expected a couple hundred people to show up and there

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<v Speaker 1>was over four thousand people went through there where everybody away,

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<v Speaker 1>how many believers were wearing out there was the mayor.

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<v Speaker 1>The mayor of I was the walling that he's near

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<v Speaker 1>down fifty miles north of here. So there were always

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<v Speaker 1>a small town, small country community, and the mayor contacted

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<v Speaker 1>the BFRO and had them come out to an investigation

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<v Speaker 1>because there were so many SITI speak foot out there,

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<v Speaker 1>patriots out there from Albert Farmer. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>sightings out so here at Casatchian National Forest, which is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest Warne state of lose in little

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<v Speaker 1>we six hundred thousand acres and well the military trains

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<v Speaker 1>out there we call peace on Range. When I was

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<v Speaker 1>stationed at Thornt Pope and so yeah, lots of sightings

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<v Speaker 1>out in this area. I think talk to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people since I keyboard of mine amazed just the

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<v Speaker 1>mains on the people that hit that you wouldn't think

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<v Speaker 1>and that never talked to anybody about it. But once

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<v Speaker 1>they hurt my story, they they started coming out. That

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<v Speaker 1>set me on a mission, you know what. They help

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people go which I did in the military.

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<v Speaker 1>I did that law esforcement. That was our our mandate

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<v Speaker 1>to help people. Well guess what now I'm able to

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<v Speaker 1>help people come forward with their stories and encourage them

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<v Speaker 1>to do so. My story, you know. The entire happened

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<v Speaker 1>out of the blue. When I was stationed at Fort

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<v Speaker 1>Polk back in nineteen seventy five. I had just come

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<v Speaker 1>down from Fort Benning, Georgia and attached the first Sacy

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<v Speaker 1>first Infancy Battalion over here at for a pope back

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<v Speaker 1>then in seventy five, and I had a girlfriend that

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<v Speaker 1>lived on our family farm, and it was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>between Camden, Arkansas and foul K, Arkansas, kind of in

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<v Speaker 1>between that area there out in the woods, and her family,

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<v Speaker 1>her dad and her mama would go ahead and do

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<v Speaker 1>lot or that. They grew their own vegetables as such,

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<v Speaker 1>and they sold them out there towards Camden. Back then,

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<v Speaker 1>Camden was a small town. I don't know how it

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<v Speaker 1>is now, if that's back nine years ago holding back

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<v Speaker 1>there since, But any case, i'd go up there on

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<v Speaker 1>weekends and weekends we'd be off, you know, and we'd

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and i'd run over there. It's about five

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<v Speaker 1>hour drive four and a half five hour drive up

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<v Speaker 1>to the fall. And I would stay there and got

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<v Speaker 1>to know her family really well, good people. I helped

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<v Speaker 1>her daddy worked the farm in the cattle, the hogs,

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<v Speaker 1>everything they had a two hundred and fifty acre farm

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<v Speaker 1>up there, and a lot of cattle and everything. Helping

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<v Speaker 1>work them and helping build fences as such. I all

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<v Speaker 1>have that cover stuff. So it was great. Her grain

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<v Speaker 1>was back in time around seventy years old. Very strong

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<v Speaker 1>kind of gospel gal. I mean she was. She was

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<v Speaker 1>hair up and a bun, and I'm very religious. And

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<v Speaker 1>she was an incredible cook, And that's one reason I

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<v Speaker 1>went through long drive. She could cook some Friday chicken.

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<v Speaker 1>My goodness, I make your hair jump up, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>out groceries hiring afraid of them. So I uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>do up there, and she cooks something back home Friday

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<v Speaker 1>even phone when I got up there, and this one

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<v Speaker 1>particular Friday night been up there in June. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a very bright night. The moon was so bright, just

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<v Speaker 1>like daytime. You know how that gets. You can see

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<v Speaker 1>across the fields everything, it's just real bright. This little

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<v Speaker 1>almost eight times. And so it was a beautiful, beautiful night.

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<v Speaker 1>We had just been aished upper. We were sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>my girlfriend, uh her mom and daddy and her two brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>and then of course for granny was in the kitchen

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<v Speaker 1>washing dishes, cleaning up. This is an old farmhouse, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>wooden farmhouse, been there probably one hundred years. Uh sore

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<v Speaker 1>was crick when you walk and everything else had it

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<v Speaker 1>when the house diacked up in about nine thirty that

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<v Speaker 1>night and never better effect yesterday. I'm here counting even

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<v Speaker 1>the visible this thing. Yeah, now thirty eight night. Her

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<v Speaker 1>calling about like some gooden knife in her back. We

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<v Speaker 1>I was the first war in the soldier, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>going and everything else, and I was used to run.

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<v Speaker 1>I went that all the hallway, got in that kitchen,

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<v Speaker 1>and when I came to and made that bend in

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<v Speaker 1>and I I dang near could have flipped over her.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was like, oh, but she was sitting

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<v Speaker 1>and she was just yelling, I've seen it again, I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it again. Well, you know, uh, the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind, in my military mind, he saw an intruder,

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<v Speaker 1>someone trying to break in. Scared the fire around every well,

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<v Speaker 1>her girlfriend's daddy, he says, Everyone arm up. So everyone

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<v Speaker 1>went to the pan gun racks on the hall. Will also,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone grabs out, got some lockers, went up the back

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<v Speaker 1>door of the kitchen towards the pasture. We got out

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<v Speaker 1>there and her two butters went to the right, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, daddy went to her to left. We come

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<v Speaker 1>off there and the first thing, you know, I'm coming

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<v Speaker 1>off some steps and I looked for off the pasture.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, that bright moon was just so bright.

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<v Speaker 1>I could see the cattle on the far end and

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<v Speaker 1>they were all hunkered up and they were cutting up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the sign when they do that. Of course, you

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<v Speaker 1>attention was this three root kick counts just hunting dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>Those things would cut up. I mean, they weren't scared nothing, son,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, they were full grown now and they ready

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<v Speaker 1>to run hintry everything. They were under the house and

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<v Speaker 1>they were all hungried down there, whining, scared to death.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what got my attention. That's what got me thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, if we're after an intruder, there's one

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<v Speaker 1>big fella, one big bad fella. And uh so I

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<v Speaker 1>went ahead and I asked her that. I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're put the dogs, he said, don't worry about that,

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<v Speaker 1>to stay close behind me. I'm thinking I thought of

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<v Speaker 1>it antoner. Well, was I in for a shock? I

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<v Speaker 1>faced my life on being level headed and everything. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if I keep seeing, it ain't real. That's what I

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<v Speaker 1>always thought. That changed to tonight. We're usually walking, uh

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<v Speaker 1>towards this corner post. We had just built a fence

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<v Speaker 1>divider for instaid, divided the pastor from a fifty acre swamp.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't want this cattlegoing in that swamp. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty bad side. Oh at Briar's thickets and all

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. So we're coaching. Yet we caught a stunt,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty rough, sound like something dead mixed with Madden piss.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said it spelled pretty rough. And if he

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<v Speaker 1>got close to that, I was thinking to say something

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<v Speaker 1>about that. We jumped out saw and jumped up and

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<v Speaker 1>that thinking. I mean about fifteen ft in front of that,

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<v Speaker 1>in that swamp there's a big old rider of thicket.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was tiring and burning. Uh. Then we couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>see it, couldn't make it out because it was so

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<v Speaker 1>thick and cunder. But it was turning, burning, but I

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<v Speaker 1>mean breaking limbs, just stomping leaves. I mean he was

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<v Speaker 1>just like a two thousand pound of rhino, just turning

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<v Speaker 1>the cycles. And then all of a sudden it jumped

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<v Speaker 1>into the into the past. This is the point right

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<v Speaker 1>here that my entire world changed, And this is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at this thing. You know, when you see something

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<v Speaker 1>you can't figure out what it is, your mind's tried

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<v Speaker 1>to rationalize. That's how the line works. That's about twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five foot from I said, we want to talking about

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred yards away. We measured the next morning when

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<v Speaker 1>we went out there recon it was twenty five foot

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<v Speaker 1>from us. So when it stood up, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>month I mean, it was just a mountain dover us.

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<v Speaker 1>It was philanthomous now. So when it stood up, it

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<v Speaker 1>was facing to our right. So we saw that, we

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<v Speaker 1>saw its right profile, and it stood up. It had

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<v Speaker 1>long arms. And next send. In that bright moon, I

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<v Speaker 1>could see everything ingo hands right, it was hands with

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<v Speaker 1>below its knees. They were standing straight up. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>hunched over or anything. But it had very broad shoulders,

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<v Speaker 1>and it had a man's profile. You're not a bear.

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<v Speaker 1>Bears got a snout. It's very you know, you look

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<v Speaker 1>at us. A bear's protofile, it's got a snout. A

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<v Speaker 1>bear's got slope shoulders. This thing had broad, massive shoulders,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was very massive creature. But I bet it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably close to seven or eight hundred pounds. Wow and lose. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just massive. On my mind's kind of figure

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<v Speaker 1>out where I'm looking at. I'm srying to say bear,

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<v Speaker 1>but I knew it wasn't a bear, not just the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that bears and knockings, and I don't get no

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<v Speaker 1>more no taller than find maybe fine foot standing on

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<v Speaker 1>two feet, but this thing was eight foot maybe seven hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred pounds. It looked like a man covered in

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<v Speaker 1>long hair. And then all of a sudden need this

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<v Speaker 1>bolted gold. He took off of a rocket, ran away

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<v Speaker 1>from didn't try to attack us. He ran like a

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<v Speaker 1>flag star. It didn't never sound all fours. It ran

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<v Speaker 1>like a track star, I mean, arms pumping every on

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<v Speaker 1>two feet. And I definitely it wasn't a bear because

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<v Speaker 1>I see where as lose, I seemed black to all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of bears. And the bears drew walk like a

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<v Speaker 1>man us. But they cannot run like a man. They

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<v Speaker 1>had to follow the all four to run because they're

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<v Speaker 1>hitting the leg structure. Mart all aim to run right

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<v Speaker 1>on two foot. So this thing ran in a pack

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<v Speaker 1>star across the whole past there like you or me

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<v Speaker 1>would run across the pasture. Well, they have tracked the

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<v Speaker 1>calg and went across that candy boy. I'm inside the

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<v Speaker 1>factor going through it, and you know he shattered that

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<v Speaker 1>cattle gate. And at that point that's what we figured

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<v Speaker 1>we were from the pracilion any further. Uh. And I

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<v Speaker 1>had a partner, right, I was telling us till he

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<v Speaker 1>said he said, well I should caligat you know, may,

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<v Speaker 1>would you know Boston wood or something? We do that

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<v Speaker 1>thing I had two by oak. If you never tried

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<v Speaker 1>to go ahead and break it oak two by six,

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<v Speaker 1>number one, they're heaviest. I'll get out number two here.

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<v Speaker 1>We can do it. It can happen, so especially a

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<v Speaker 1>few of them there and I'll be real serming Freeing

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<v Speaker 1>four conjunction over there, we had tie in and it

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<v Speaker 1>shattered them. It's shattered, it's splentered those things. Now we

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<v Speaker 1>needn't pursue it until the next morning and get a

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<v Speaker 1>recon of course, went out there and we checked everything,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, expected earthman, that's when we really saw the

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<v Speaker 1>damage did. But after it ran for that, yeah, Eferic

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<v Speaker 1>shattered that that cattle get a roar. I ain't never

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<v Speaker 1>heard of my life. Now, I've been down hut Wood

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<v Speaker 1>since nineteen eighties, eighty eighty six. We came out here

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<v Speaker 1>and moved out here, and uh, that's a lot of years.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard everything, how I mean, growl and roar everything

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<v Speaker 1>out and I ain't never heard about that. That that

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<v Speaker 1>was most worth like here. He is the worst, more

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<v Speaker 1>loudest for I've ever heard, you know, my life. And

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<v Speaker 1>so once it did that, of course, then their tircomer

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<v Speaker 1>two brothers on the other side of Boston Nation. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you hear that? Did you guys hear that we we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen this thing. Yeah, well heard that he was not

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<v Speaker 1>ready to have hard that he was ready and he

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<v Speaker 1>fell east, sat down and he didn't know his I

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<v Speaker 1>won't do or won't do? He said, this thing is

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<v Speaker 1>coming around every once in a while. He said, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what to do and live, take my family.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, this is coming around every once in

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<v Speaker 1>a while when it means sense? Why green? He said,

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<v Speaker 1>she's she didn't see seeing it again? What want at

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<v Speaker 1>the window? Yeah? I had it up and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't you tell me what we was going after?

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, would you come out to the house

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<v Speaker 1>of my chlch He's got a point there. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>said that the man. So I said, yeah, God, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>what is it? He said, I don't know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea, but he's coming around here ever

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<v Speaker 1>once going on their farms. You know that farmhouse is

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<v Speaker 1>probably about a mile from the nearest house, so they're

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<v Speaker 1>isolated out there. Uh. And the first thing I did,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, buddy, as you can never decided to go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and think about contacting Wilding Fisheries or or Jared

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<v Speaker 1>Partner or something. He said, oh no, uh, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>do that. And I said why not? I said, at

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<v Speaker 1>least they can do any investigation. He said, they laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>Just remember two we can't afford to go and do

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<v Speaker 1>that because we have a We see our products, our

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<v Speaker 1>vegetables and everything over there and outside of Camden. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't run our businesses would laugh at or think

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<v Speaker 1>we're crazy. He said, no, I don't want that done,

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<v Speaker 1>he said. He said, we're gonna keep it to ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, I ask you if you wouldn't do

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<v Speaker 1>the same when you go back to Ford Polk, just

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<v Speaker 1>don't talk about this for that time. What Vings kind

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<v Speaker 1>of calmed down. We got side there and everyone just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hunked it up. I asked her, I, ma'am,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, if you don't mind, and I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>was curious how it's base looked and she said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, look like a huge man's face. But it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't any man in that sense. Heals me Ins.

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<v Speaker 3>Said that, and he said, I think that's because she

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<v Speaker 3>was a Pentecostal and you know they don't understand, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't believe anything other than what we see in

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<v Speaker 3>their eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she said it had red glowing eyes. Anyway, she says,

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<v Speaker 1>come around a few times. It looks in the window. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Never tried to break in the house and the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing that never broke or destroyed was of course that

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<v Speaker 1>cattle game that night. She's but prior to that never

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<v Speaker 1>destroyed anything. They knew her and never tried to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hurt her or anything. And we just you know, surmised

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<v Speaker 1>that her cooking, probably when they hadn't drawed it in

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<v Speaker 1>curiosity or such. Yeah, why it would come around every

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<v Speaker 1>once in a while. Any case, we stayed up on

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<v Speaker 1>that long year, the society drinking coffee all that long.

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<v Speaker 1>No one was to sleep that night. Or if we

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<v Speaker 1>found the foot plants and everything, I mean measae those

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<v Speaker 1>that are around seventeen or half inches in the lanth

413
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<v Speaker 1>or it happens white flag as they were pretty big

414
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<v Speaker 1>feet I mean, and shining you on two by six,

415
00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:09.960
<v Speaker 1>rapped the bob wi and I we found chunks of

416
00:23:10.039 --> 00:23:12.319
<v Speaker 1>air and everything in that bob wire. Now that wasn't

417
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<v Speaker 1>even a thought back there. Of course, didn't have cell phones,

418
00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:17.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't exist back there in our computers, so you know,

419
00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:20.640
<v Speaker 1>we hadn't seen that. I wish, I think I wish

420
00:23:20.720 --> 00:23:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I grabbed the wat that hair, kept it as a keepsake,

421
00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:26.960
<v Speaker 1>but didn't even think about it. Yeah, in that time frame.

422
00:23:27.079 --> 00:23:30.240
<v Speaker 1>And then that's a but anyway, we found that when

423
00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:34.759
<v Speaker 1>they had uh noticed, about twenty foot from to the

424
00:23:34.839 --> 00:23:38.240
<v Speaker 1>right of that caligate was the corner post where of

425
00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:41.799
<v Speaker 1>the pasture and it was being out of a cut

426
00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:45.240
<v Speaker 1>down telephone pole, and it was something about five foot

427
00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:48.599
<v Speaker 1>deep in the ground. And of course it was laid over.

428
00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:52.119
<v Speaker 1>The pressure that was forced that chrish creature going through

429
00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:55.519
<v Speaker 1>that caligate and used going through it like it did

430
00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:58.640
<v Speaker 1>like a the nine dos or just pulled that that

431
00:23:58.720 --> 00:24:01.119
<v Speaker 1>corner post over didn't break. We dug it up. Man,

432
00:24:01.160 --> 00:24:04.279
<v Speaker 1>it was laid over getting ready, laid it over. That's

433
00:24:04.279 --> 00:24:09.839
<v Speaker 1>some force and well that ain't nothing uh career left

434
00:24:09.839 --> 00:24:12.000
<v Speaker 1>of it. About twenty five foot was there was a

435
00:24:12.039 --> 00:24:16.039
<v Speaker 1>squeeze shoot for the cattle and that was all bowed up.

436
00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:20.160
<v Speaker 1>It had bent them bars. I mean, is gaining them

437
00:24:20.160 --> 00:24:23.079
<v Speaker 1>all up from the forest we're going through you won't

438
00:24:23.119 --> 00:24:28.319
<v Speaker 1>get uh. So we need the force of this thing

439
00:24:28.319 --> 00:24:30.519
<v Speaker 1>and the power had of course it went on through

440
00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:34.160
<v Speaker 1>a saw street buyer fitted. We didn't go any further

441
00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:39.799
<v Speaker 1>than that. So after that, uh went about the post.

442
00:24:39.920 --> 00:24:41.799
<v Speaker 1>They asked me to keep my mouth shirt and I did.

443
00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Now I arned it. Never talked about it to anybody

444
00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:48.799
<v Speaker 1>and kill the mouse, shutting this putting the back of

445
00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:51.759
<v Speaker 1>my mind. And of course every the weekend's going back

446
00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:55.440
<v Speaker 1>after that, you never seen it again. Didn't they see

447
00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:57.680
<v Speaker 1>it during the week when I wasn't there, I don't know.

448
00:24:58.079 --> 00:25:01.039
<v Speaker 1>I didn't ask, and they sure didn't tell me. Uh,

449
00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:04.160
<v Speaker 1>that was their business. But I when I weekends out

450
00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:07.799
<v Speaker 1>was there after that, I didn't see it. And we

451
00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:09.720
<v Speaker 1>didn't even talk about it. We didn'tven bring it up.

452
00:25:10.799 --> 00:25:15.160
<v Speaker 1>In seventy six, I got orders dcs to overseas in Europe,

453
00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:19.279
<v Speaker 1>and so I went overseas and that was the last

454
00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:22.160
<v Speaker 1>of it. We broke up her and then, you know,

455
00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:25.079
<v Speaker 1>not just not getting mad at each other. I told her,

456
00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:27.400
<v Speaker 1>I said, well, I'll be darn for a few years

457
00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:30.599
<v Speaker 1>over seas. So I said, go ahead and we get

458
00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:33.319
<v Speaker 1>as we say, friends and that was it. While we

459
00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:36.880
<v Speaker 1>came back both seas one one, I went ahead and uh,

460
00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:41.240
<v Speaker 1>I ats out in the military and got married befoward

461
00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:45.680
<v Speaker 1>my wife here married to now and uh, you know,

462
00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:48.440
<v Speaker 1>like I said, everything kept us out of all the years,

463
00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:51.759
<v Speaker 1>my whole career, and then well I never told the kids,

464
00:25:51.839 --> 00:25:55.839
<v Speaker 1>never told my wife or anything. Yeah. Uh, and you know,

465
00:25:56.160 --> 00:26:00.240
<v Speaker 1>but finally I told them you know about it. You know,

466
00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:03.880
<v Speaker 1>they were they were pretty interest because those they're minded,

467
00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:08.000
<v Speaker 1>well my boys was open minded. One plays in the

468
00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:11.599
<v Speaker 1>band he was out in in Nashville, and the other

469
00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:16.279
<v Speaker 1>one he's a uh he's rewarding over a prison out here, Lizianna.

470
00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:20.160
<v Speaker 1>So you know, they're both professionals, but they have minds

471
00:26:20.160 --> 00:26:22.519
<v Speaker 1>and they both believe, you know, there's a lot of

472
00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:24.519
<v Speaker 1>things going on in this world that you know, we

473
00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:28.759
<v Speaker 1>don't know. And uh, my wife she halfway believes it,

474
00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:31.119
<v Speaker 1>you know. She she says, he has a hard time

475
00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:33.480
<v Speaker 1>understanding this thing, but she heard it from my uncle too,

476
00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:36.880
<v Speaker 1>his story, and she well, there's always something not here.

477
00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:39.079
<v Speaker 1>But soon they were soonere before she's one kind of

478
00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:42.720
<v Speaker 1>seeing is believing. Well that's how I was, and trus

479
00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Sing was believed. I've not seen one since now. People

480
00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:50.559
<v Speaker 1>ask me all the time. A matter of fact, Uh,

481
00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:53.680
<v Speaker 1>I did. Had done one podcast for some fellows and

482
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:55.960
<v Speaker 1>one of the guys had asked me there was two

483
00:26:55.960 --> 00:27:00.319
<v Speaker 1>fellaws on that one, uh, commentators, and that had asked me, well,

484
00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:03.599
<v Speaker 1>it's seven miles at the back doors of the woods. Well,

485
00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can go out there if you weren't to.

486
00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:08.160
<v Speaker 1>You can sit there and say you some big foot

487
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:09.920
<v Speaker 1>you all the time, and people would believe it because

488
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:11.440
<v Speaker 1>the fact no matter that is with all way out

489
00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:13.480
<v Speaker 1>in the woods, I said, yeah, I could do that,

490
00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:16.480
<v Speaker 1>but that would have my credibility and building everything. I'm

491
00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:19.319
<v Speaker 1>not trying to do that. I'd never seen right out

492
00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:21.960
<v Speaker 1>here in this woods. I've hung all these woods. I've

493
00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:25.240
<v Speaker 1>never seen one. So I'm not gonna tell you I

494
00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:28.279
<v Speaker 1>saw something I didn't. Yeah, well, I seen what I seen,

495
00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and I know what I sung every time I would

496
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:37.039
<v Speaker 1>eat in my house go in the woods, I said, front,

497
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:41.400
<v Speaker 1>it's not my mind. I didn't have any experience. Uh.

498
00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:44.160
<v Speaker 1>While I was in the military, didn't see it. We

499
00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:47.559
<v Speaker 1>heard it. This one to me hurt and right before

500
00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:51.359
<v Speaker 1>I went to Europe and U t shased over there.

501
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:56.400
<v Speaker 1>But Uh, I was telling you, UH lutrain building was

502
00:27:56.440 --> 00:28:01.440
<v Speaker 1>called cousar and griddage out. That's the national folk. So

503
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:05.079
<v Speaker 1>UH who lay out in the woods. I was a

504
00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:08.359
<v Speaker 1>strict further its issue first inficsy Rettalian rope. Uh first,

505
00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:12.960
<v Speaker 1>and portantly the UH had seen something any gay time,

506
00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:17.200
<v Speaker 1>something huge cross frost in Alfornia in front of all

507
00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:20.519
<v Speaker 1>those tanks and a PCs uh, and all all of

508
00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:23.880
<v Speaker 1>the soldiers saw it, including the b C. Kang commander. Well,

509
00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:26.920
<v Speaker 1>he weing here we saw it, you know. Uh. It

510
00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:29.319
<v Speaker 1>was like I said close sen for dog, but they

511
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:34.000
<v Speaker 1>said governed hare uh. And it ran a command across

512
00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:36.480
<v Speaker 1>the road and it was running at a high rate

513
00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:39.519
<v Speaker 1>of speed that no man can run. So the b

514
00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:43.519
<v Speaker 1>sne called he called the karu here is a headquarters

515
00:28:43.519 --> 00:28:46.319
<v Speaker 1>which are general how d times post commander or pope

516
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>and uh you reporter, Yeah, of course that point. Uh

517
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:54.519
<v Speaker 1>sat down for pope and not shut it down as

518
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:56.039
<v Speaker 1>far as working, but you want to hit and shut

519
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:58.839
<v Speaker 1>it down to the public. Back in those days, back

520
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:02.759
<v Speaker 1>back in at the Vietnam was over and everything and

521
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:06.759
<v Speaker 1>it was peacetime. What happened was the military basis would

522
00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:09.160
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and open up to the public that go

523
00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:11.519
<v Speaker 1>on there. A lot of the people would go across

524
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.359
<v Speaker 1>for a pocus advantage because they were Italian. The shortcut

525
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:18.559
<v Speaker 1>like a like a bypass road going through Fort Polks

526
00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:21.160
<v Speaker 1>from South Fork North Fork coming out Highway twenty eight

527
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>was a bypass kind of going to Alexandria. So it

528
00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:28.039
<v Speaker 1>saved a lot of miles going through Lesville. So they

529
00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:32.200
<v Speaker 1>used that. Uh, he didn't set it down for that week.

530
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:36.359
<v Speaker 1>It was only a military person there and authorized personnel

531
00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:39.359
<v Speaker 1>that were allowed on post. That week, all the times

532
00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:40.960
<v Speaker 1>were put on alert. We were all sent out there

533
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:44.680
<v Speaker 1>to go ahead and look for this creas the secret

534
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:48.960
<v Speaker 1>top thing you full keep hush hush, And we all

535
00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>went out there. Uh we we didn't see anything. We

536
00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:56.000
<v Speaker 1>broke up in teams, you know, for five man teams.

537
00:29:56.200 --> 00:29:58.599
<v Speaker 1>It's bring down also the woods and it's all big,

538
00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:02.480
<v Speaker 1>big back area already goes here. He was sinking there.

539
00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:06.759
<v Speaker 1>We heard something crashed through the woods. Yes on a

540
00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:09.559
<v Speaker 1>truck hitting a tree. So we went through the woods

541
00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:11.599
<v Speaker 1>going looked and we found a deuce in half which

542
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:15.799
<v Speaker 1>was the military transport. You close up the side smashed.

543
00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:18.079
<v Speaker 1>We ain't see what get it. We just heard it

544
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>when it happened. So we went through there. Of course

545
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:23.839
<v Speaker 1>we hadn't take pictures and everything else of that, and

546
00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:26.200
<v Speaker 1>then we said report back, carding everything. We went it

547
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:29.640
<v Speaker 1>hid and seek and so when it hit, we go back.

548
00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:32.440
<v Speaker 1>They went and hit and said okay, we carried on.

549
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:36.079
<v Speaker 1>Didn't see anything else. Uh, we come back. Of course,

550
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>everyone pulled together across highways here for for polcus our

551
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>honorary Srio go over there. We went over there and

552
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>of course they're how they had a beat and told everybody.

553
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>He said, okay, look this is you know, that's our

554
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:53.079
<v Speaker 1>type of thing. No one talks about this. All the

555
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:55.039
<v Speaker 1>places blowed to goat Hill with Dolly goad Hills. We

556
00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:59.400
<v Speaker 1>were carded that I was going towards Leesville. All the

557
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:02.079
<v Speaker 1>bars were there were off limits. We couldn't go these.

558
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:03.799
<v Speaker 1>They didn't want to talk about it going there for

559
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:04.200
<v Speaker 1>a while.

560
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:08.759
<v Speaker 2>Did you have any like uh orders or instructions in

561
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:09.960
<v Speaker 2>case you did see it.

562
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:14.559
<v Speaker 1>We were told to go hit in this radio back

563
00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:16.799
<v Speaker 1>if we did anything at all, DoD to regress it,

564
00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:19.359
<v Speaker 1>not to go ahead and try to stop it or anything.

565
00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:22.839
<v Speaker 1>We didn't have any weapons, no weapons at all. Well

566
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:25.079
<v Speaker 1>we've had sixtys. But they had blank adapters on her.

567
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:27.160
<v Speaker 1>If you don't know what a blank adapt is, a

568
00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:29.519
<v Speaker 1>blank adapter is what we use and train and what

569
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:31.119
<v Speaker 1>it is. It goes on the end of your barrel

570
00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:35.759
<v Speaker 1>on your flash oppressor. But you you have blanks. Blanks

571
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:38.319
<v Speaker 1>aren't good. I guess a person a little lot of

572
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:41.720
<v Speaker 1>deep Yeah, yeah, that's all you have. You had that

573
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:43.359
<v Speaker 1>you had your radio and that was it. And in

574
00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:46.480
<v Speaker 1>course the military cameras they gave you and h then

575
00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:47.880
<v Speaker 1>you had to go and tend that. And we turned

576
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:50.880
<v Speaker 1>all that in wed here to the grape vine. Don't

577
00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:53.920
<v Speaker 1>know how truly is heard us from the military very fine.

578
00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:57.839
<v Speaker 1>So soldier sold soldier the soldier. It wasn't from lank

579
00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:00.440
<v Speaker 1>it was it was from you know, soldier to soldier

580
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:04.720
<v Speaker 1>that it was captured. You don't. I can't. I had

581
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:06.480
<v Speaker 1>no dentification of that, So I'm not going to say

582
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:09.720
<v Speaker 1>it was or wasn't, uh because the military grapevine was

583
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:11.559
<v Speaker 1>kind of like, you know, hey, whatever, you can leave

584
00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:16.000
<v Speaker 1>rich sometimes the team, so that I don't know. Uh,

585
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:19.640
<v Speaker 1>evidently there were some hunters that's seen it and uh

586
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:23.480
<v Speaker 1>also but uh but the thing amount of years is

587
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:27.720
<v Speaker 1>once that uh turned the page up a little bit

588
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:34.440
<v Speaker 1>once lyle had that uh bigfoot uh thing that we

589
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.240
<v Speaker 1>hear at the conference over here in lesiel Here a

590
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:42.000
<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago. So folks from the Kasatsi National

591
00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Forest live out the area had come out, was there

592
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:47.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, talking about uh, yeah, there's lots of sightings

593
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:50.799
<v Speaker 1>out in the Kasati area. And found that out too.

594
00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:53.759
<v Speaker 1>I found out there was several several sightings out there

595
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:59.519
<v Speaker 1>Kasasi And so it's not that's a big area right here,

596
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:03.440
<v Speaker 1>just woods, I mean, anything else live out there. You

597
00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:08.599
<v Speaker 1>want to see hot Bee National Forest is going going ahead.

598
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Start in Louisville and highway torn and hit Private twenty

599
00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:15.319
<v Speaker 1>eight and you drive and you drive all the way

600
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:21.240
<v Speaker 1>northeast and see did Alexandria all the woods out there

601
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:24.680
<v Speaker 1>who can go through are gonna be after that boar

602
00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:30.839
<v Speaker 1>every dip A's Linley almost fifty miles from Loves Hills

603
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:34.279
<v Speaker 1>to Alexandriez. That's a lot of that's a lot of

604
00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:37.960
<v Speaker 1>swamping areas out there. And it says so yeah, I

605
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:40.720
<v Speaker 1>mean it's you know, lots of sidings out in that

606
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:42.960
<v Speaker 1>area there. There's lots of sidings out in the shab Bean.

607
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:47.319
<v Speaker 1>Uh and the course like I say, uh Ana Cooca.

608
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:50.920
<v Speaker 1>So Losing is full man met down South Louisiana. And

609
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:54.119
<v Speaker 1>of course there's you know the big stories are over

610
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:57.160
<v Speaker 1>there Nie Allen Swamp and all that area is there.

611
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Uh they see these creatures all the time. So named

612
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Chaffelaya and literally I've been chaffel at Boosing out there.

613
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:06.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, we call it the eighteen mile bridge and

614
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:11.440
<v Speaker 1>even off of going to the bat rooms, and uh,

615
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I ten, well, the eighteen mile bridge that is goes

616
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:18.639
<v Speaker 1>across a chapel lot, I mean a chaffel at base

617
00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:20.920
<v Speaker 1>and he goes along some miles and miles miles mile

618
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.639
<v Speaker 1>and yah, folks living out there I'm talking about and

619
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:28.599
<v Speaker 1>it like they was back in eighteen hundreds. I mean,

620
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:35.159
<v Speaker 1>you know you even so it's no I mean, there's

621
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:37.920
<v Speaker 1>no telling what's out in that area. You know. One

622
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:41.400
<v Speaker 1>night I was actually well, it was not right. It

623
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>was right at dusk and I was out hunting. I

624
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:46.599
<v Speaker 1>hunt behind the house a lot of times back there.

625
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:50.360
<v Speaker 1>It's up Orange yards. It elsa did under stand, and

626
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:56.159
<v Speaker 1>I heard something out in the dishes like that. I

627
00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:58.519
<v Speaker 1>didn't know what it was. I've never heard that before.

628
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:02.800
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't the hudoo. It was just I blew it off,

629
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:04.639
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I'm just seeing the thing. It start. Well,

630
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.039
<v Speaker 1>it's almost time to go go anyway, so I want

631
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:08.360
<v Speaker 1>to head and come up and stand come back to

632
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:11.400
<v Speaker 1>the house. And my wife said when he hid, and

633
00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:14.559
<v Speaker 1>she told me she was I heard something behind the

634
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:17.800
<v Speaker 1>house out in the woods, and she says it was

635
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:21.400
<v Speaker 1>whipping like I never heard that before, and I said,

636
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 1>you heard that team, I said, I heard an understand

637
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:26.239
<v Speaker 1>and she said, yeah, I heard it, so but she

638
00:35:26.239 --> 00:35:28.159
<v Speaker 1>didn't know what. I said, Well, you know, of course

639
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:32.039
<v Speaker 1>didn't see anything. What was it? Don't know. I'm not

640
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:33.719
<v Speaker 1>going to say it was a big foot. I don't

641
00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:36.800
<v Speaker 1>know what it was, but you know it you never know.

642
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it's just one of those things like

643
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:45.760
<v Speaker 2>you're saying, once you know that they're out there, I mean,

644
00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:48.239
<v Speaker 2>it stays in your mind forever.

645
00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what he does. I was, It's been thirty years

646
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:53.320
<v Speaker 1>for me, you know, since I said I won in

647
00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:56.519
<v Speaker 1>Arkansas and here I know I was nineteen year old soldier.

648
00:35:56.519 --> 00:35:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm going around sixty eight, and I ain't forget that.

649
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:01.719
<v Speaker 1>That stayed in my mind, like like you know, well,

650
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:04.800
<v Speaker 1>the traumatic experiences do that you remember details. I know,

651
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:08.679
<v Speaker 1>when I'm working law enforcement, no talk to people who rape, vickens, whatever,

652
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:11.519
<v Speaker 1>and you know, you ask them questions, they can tell

653
00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:14.119
<v Speaker 1>you detail. I mean, boom boom boom, boom boom. Because

654
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:16.639
<v Speaker 1>it's a traumatic experience, it's embedded in your brain, burnt

655
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:20.760
<v Speaker 1>in your brain, so your number the details and and

656
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I remember that so well. And it's like you know, wow, what, Yeah,

657
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:30.920
<v Speaker 1>these things are real. I mean, I mean, what else

658
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>can you call him but a big foot of a

659
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Shasker's I don't know, I don't know. I mean, you know,

660
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:38.639
<v Speaker 1>you can call the planal hair whatever. But they're out there.

661
00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:44.079
<v Speaker 1>I believe they're very, very intelligent, and you believe that. Uh.

662
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:48.239
<v Speaker 1>I think they have a sense of human intel. They

663
00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:50.800
<v Speaker 1>know how to avoid trail camps. I believe that a

664
00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:56.400
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent they can reckon earn a trail camp immantly.

665
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:01.440
<v Speaker 1>The red eyes saying this is my set. Don't mess Okay,

666
00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:03.880
<v Speaker 1>I can you wrong. I'm just giving you my concept,

667
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:06.159
<v Speaker 1>darn it because of what I'm researched this and that.

668
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Some years ago, I was watching the Discovery and they

669
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:15.400
<v Speaker 1>that they keep some exploritation and all that kind of thing,

670
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:20.400
<v Speaker 1>and my wife mere watching it, uh, and they had

671
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:22.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're going down there's little mini subs about

672
00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:26.400
<v Speaker 1>ten thousand feet deep in the ocean listening for these

673
00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:28.960
<v Speaker 1>different you know this and this and that. With the

674
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:32.000
<v Speaker 1>sub going that, of course, the water is it's black

675
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:35.719
<v Speaker 1>dot down there, and uh, slubs looking and they see

676
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:39.159
<v Speaker 1>these red these red beams comes up on the closure

677
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:42.599
<v Speaker 1>end and it's lights of the subs shoulder fish and

678
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:47.480
<v Speaker 1>they use fish and they're down there. I guess they

679
00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:52.239
<v Speaker 1>developed a sense of ir infra red where they can

680
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:56.840
<v Speaker 1>see in the darkness, sense food, shelter, what have you. Uh.

681
00:37:56.920 --> 00:37:59.840
<v Speaker 1>And that the red beans their eyes were glowing red

682
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:04.800
<v Speaker 1>and that beings going out from darkness. So the commentator says,

683
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:07.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, these creatures throughout this over the years. Uh

684
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:12.519
<v Speaker 1>And he said, who's to say that if sea based

685
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:16.519
<v Speaker 1>creatures that can develop this you know technology or for

686
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:20.000
<v Speaker 1>adapt you know, adptation to sing in darkness with these

687
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:26.119
<v Speaker 1>red eyes that and based creatures couldn't. So that got

688
00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:30.079
<v Speaker 1>back to claims said about you know, red high is

689
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:33.400
<v Speaker 1>like baking tail lights. You know that could be these

690
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:37.920
<v Speaker 1>creatures ill natural ir being able to see in the darkness.

691
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:42.719
<v Speaker 1>And uh so I imagine you know they have a senseimental,

692
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:45.480
<v Speaker 1>they know how to they know what they know. Animals

693
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:48.800
<v Speaker 1>have the sense they know. You dear hunted, all deerhun

694
00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:49.440
<v Speaker 1>score horn.

695
00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:52.440
<v Speaker 2>I grew up without doors.

696
00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:55.960
<v Speaker 1>That's the homeless. So yeah, yeahfinitely, so you know what

697
00:38:55.960 --> 00:39:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about. You know, a deer there this instant

698
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:03.880
<v Speaker 1>mechanisms is to go ahead, the freeze ring, stand still,

699
00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:07.519
<v Speaker 1>just cringe and you're extending the word line. You would

700
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:11.639
<v Speaker 1>and see them, you know, because they melt in to

701
00:39:11.639 --> 00:39:14.159
<v Speaker 1>to the woods and to their surroundings. That's in the

702
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:17.760
<v Speaker 1>military that that's what we're taught is actual camouflage able

703
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:20.440
<v Speaker 1>to you know, just go ahead and poach your form,

704
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:23.559
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and melt into the surroundings and everything. And

705
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:26.400
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what animals did, you know, squirrels, same way

706
00:39:26.599 --> 00:39:28.920
<v Speaker 1>squirrel hunting. Look up there in the tree, you know.

707
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:31.360
<v Speaker 1>You see the bump on the lamb that can be

708
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:32.960
<v Speaker 1>a pine knot. You don't know what it is, just

709
00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:35.480
<v Speaker 1>sitting there, not moving at all. Watch it for a while.

710
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Also that that tail wag, you know it's a squirrel.

711
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:41.079
<v Speaker 1>Animals can free frame. This one of their defense features

712
00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:43.599
<v Speaker 1>they have, and it's standing still. You won't miss them.

713
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Humans lead detect that's how we see, and we don't

714
00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:52.440
<v Speaker 1>see movement. We can't tell it's there. And so my

715
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:56.400
<v Speaker 1>personal belief in these creatures see us before we see there,

716
00:39:57.400 --> 00:39:59.719
<v Speaker 1>They see us. Lots of people who don't believe these

717
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:04.639
<v Speaker 1>things exist, having been seen by bagshot, I said, I believe,

718
00:40:05.039 --> 00:40:08.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, so, uh, they these things are out there

719
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:10.079
<v Speaker 1>in the woods and they they know when to come out.

720
00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:14.400
<v Speaker 1>They know not when to come out. I imagine, Uh,

721
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:18.199
<v Speaker 1>they have that sixth sense the animals have to detect

722
00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:24.280
<v Speaker 1>danger whatever. Uh and uh you couple that that sixth sense,

723
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:27.599
<v Speaker 1>that speeding majority of a of a bob can or

724
00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:30.519
<v Speaker 1>a deer with a sense of human intel, and you

725
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:33.639
<v Speaker 1>have the perfect creature. That's why he avoids. That's why

726
00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:35.679
<v Speaker 1>he avoids people. So he easily in the hard so

727
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:39.280
<v Speaker 1>hard to find, you know, because you know, it's not

728
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:43.400
<v Speaker 1>just a dumb animal. It's just something that really I'm

729
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:45.559
<v Speaker 1>not gonna say as smart as we are, well, I'm

730
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:49.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna say, uh has a sense of intel to pretty

731
00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:51.119
<v Speaker 1>much put it on a level playing field. You know,

732
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:54.159
<v Speaker 1>that's my first l aspect. Like I said, I could

733
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:58.000
<v Speaker 1>be hones wrong. I'm just changing I believe. But uh,

734
00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:01.679
<v Speaker 1>my whole life's been acted by this over the last

735
00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:04.280
<v Speaker 1>fifty years, and you know, I always think about it.

736
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I always know. Hey, you know, what we were taught

737
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:12.199
<v Speaker 1>to believe isn't always true, and there's things out here

738
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:15.280
<v Speaker 1>that we don't understand. Hey, wow, I'm going to shut

739
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:17.320
<v Speaker 1>up that you asked questions.

740
00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:21.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm just sitting here and enjoying the story. Man, Uh,

741
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:24.559
<v Speaker 2>that's quite an experience.

742
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, it's something that I was I can't

743
00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:31.960
<v Speaker 1>code to how many times effort that happened. And I

744
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:35.760
<v Speaker 1>went back to post and everything and all that that

745
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:39.039
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to tell somebody. But these things are out there.

746
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:41.440
<v Speaker 1>The Germans believe in that kind of thing. When I

747
00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:43.760
<v Speaker 1>was over in Germany stationed over there, they told us

748
00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:46.320
<v Speaker 1>about these creatures that they've seen up there, you know,

749
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:50.519
<v Speaker 1>the mountains and everything, and all the guys I was within,

750
00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:53.159
<v Speaker 1>so I was with you know, they laugh, Oh yeah, yeah,

751
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:54.960
<v Speaker 1>and I laugh a long with them. I even want

752
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:57.360
<v Speaker 1>to think, you know, tell my story back then. I was,

753
00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:00.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, throw a program. But David, they've been seen

754
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:03.639
<v Speaker 1>around in a lot of military posts. I have friends

755
00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:06.840
<v Speaker 1>of mine where station for Dealer that has seen them

756
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:13.360
<v Speaker 1>up there, Bruce Washington, I mean, or Tarzan Polorado. Oh,

757
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>and there's a lots of I didn't see know onto

758
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:17.239
<v Speaker 1>the ear the saying spread.

759
00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:21.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of curious about your opinion on this. You know,

760
00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:24.159
<v Speaker 2>you had that experience in the military and everything, and

761
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:27.559
<v Speaker 2>like you just said, you know other military servicemen that

762
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:30.039
<v Speaker 2>have seen them. Why do they want to keep them

763
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:31.440
<v Speaker 2>a secret.

764
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:35.599
<v Speaker 1>When it comes to the government. Uh, it's hard. There's

765
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:40.480
<v Speaker 1>hard to figure out why. I mean, uh, there's so

766
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:44.800
<v Speaker 1>much level of frequency in the government. I mean it

767
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:48.639
<v Speaker 1>staggers the mind to understand how how much secrecy. When

768
00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:51.079
<v Speaker 1>I was in the military, I mean mine, goodness, you

769
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:54.159
<v Speaker 1>had you know, we had the top secret clearances in

770
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:57.320
<v Speaker 1>my mos when I was in the military, and uh,

771
00:42:57.800 --> 00:42:59.639
<v Speaker 1>we get to with me over a lot of crypto

772
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:02.599
<v Speaker 1>and and uh uh you know, special ops and that

773
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:07.519
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff and every it's it's strange how it works.

774
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:14.840
<v Speaker 1>But every level of clearance. You're level six and you

775
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:17.320
<v Speaker 1>know more than the guy who had a level five,

776
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:21.360
<v Speaker 1>but you can't tell him what you know. The guy

777
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:23.800
<v Speaker 1>in level seven knows more than what you know, he

778
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:26.519
<v Speaker 1>can't tell you what he knows. So it's just that

779
00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:29.519
<v Speaker 1>one extra level. It's amazing what what's what you learn?

780
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:33.239
<v Speaker 1>And so uh, it was it was an incident that

781
00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:36.000
<v Speaker 1>happened to me when I was when I was chafing

782
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:39.119
<v Speaker 1>here at pork at Fort Pote that you know, I

783
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:44.639
<v Speaker 1>don't really talk about this much, but it's it's nothing

784
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:49.559
<v Speaker 1>you a big choy, but it was something that we

785
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:51.960
<v Speaker 1>were sent. There was five that was sent from different

786
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:56.519
<v Speaker 1>dit posts up to Fort West Texas in Fort West

787
00:43:56.559 --> 00:43:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Texas is over there in the west end of Texas

788
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:01.480
<v Speaker 1>and it Tyes and to force from New Mexico and

789
00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:06.239
<v Speaker 1>all that. We were sent there and we were given

790
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:10.280
<v Speaker 1>a coordinates. We had five five times three roads and

791
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:14.480
<v Speaker 1>we had to follow the shasepeak Chispagel was two Huban

792
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.719
<v Speaker 1>they were instant being closed. Uh. We don't adult there

793
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:20.480
<v Speaker 1>were c i ds where we don't have no idea,

794
00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:23.480
<v Speaker 1>you know. We had to follow that. That was that

795
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:27.119
<v Speaker 1>was you order. We went as the clothed fly about

796
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:31.800
<v Speaker 1>six and a half hours north to that Mechigan Mountains. Uh.

797
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:36.480
<v Speaker 1>We were at buy our estimations somewhere out in the

798
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:39.119
<v Speaker 1>middle of nowhere, but it was not too far from

799
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:42.599
<v Speaker 1>uh you know, uh Santa Fe to Mexico that area

800
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:46.079
<v Speaker 1>where we had gotten there. It was a white stop

801
00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:51.880
<v Speaker 1>and a little little uh guard hut right there and

802
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:56.199
<v Speaker 1>we were blood come out and it was a second lieutenant.

803
00:44:56.320 --> 00:45:00.920
<v Speaker 1>That was very unusual. You never saw brass working as

804
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:04.679
<v Speaker 1>as guard ever. You you always had you know, ems

805
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:08.480
<v Speaker 1>or you know, something like that. You never had a

806
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:13.119
<v Speaker 1>lieutenant or captain or something like that. Seconde lieutenant comes

807
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:16.039
<v Speaker 1>out there guide us over. First vehicle to the polite

808
00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:19.840
<v Speaker 1>post by stop almost up against it. Next one bumper

809
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:22.800
<v Speaker 1>to bumper, bumper to bumper. We were worded out of

810
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:25.519
<v Speaker 1>vehicles and we had to go with it other sort

811
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:29.039
<v Speaker 1>of the guard check based opposite direction and standup, parade,

812
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:32.400
<v Speaker 1>rest and through. We were ordered around about based background.

813
00:45:33.840 --> 00:45:37.960
<v Speaker 1>So we're standing there sweating, and you know, just unapproachables,

814
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:39.559
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I just happened to go ahead and

815
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:43.159
<v Speaker 1>glance back and real quick and then glanced back and

816
00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:45.800
<v Speaker 1>the vehicles A look down in a hole I saw.

817
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:50.119
<v Speaker 1>I seen was as if as this call. It was

818
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:52.719
<v Speaker 1>the elevator of the life that lowered the vehicles down

819
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:55.079
<v Speaker 1>to some kind of a maintenance facility or something. I

820
00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:58.679
<v Speaker 1>do know what it was, but I of course we'll

821
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:01.039
<v Speaker 1>turn back around. It's a glance some come back around again,

822
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:05.039
<v Speaker 1>back to the orders, tension and doubt. Face that vehicle,

823
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:07.679
<v Speaker 1>that vehicle. They were all top side again. They were

824
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:13.079
<v Speaker 1>about their opposite duration, unloaded, empty, ordered back in the

825
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:15.920
<v Speaker 1>vehicles again, fall the chase. People go back to Fort Bliss.

826
00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Got back to Fort Bliss. We'll get the vehicles into

827
00:46:18.199 --> 00:46:22.199
<v Speaker 1>a building where we were deep graves uh at Fort Bird.

828
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:24.079
<v Speaker 1>Colonel inside there, and we had to sign all kind

829
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:26.000
<v Speaker 1>of documents thing that you know, we would never talk

830
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:29.400
<v Speaker 1>about this. It's not gonna you know. And uh so

831
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:32.679
<v Speaker 1>if we had to do all that, uh, I mean

832
00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:37.880
<v Speaker 1>the frequency, what was it? You know, there's these things

833
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:41.400
<v Speaker 1>all over the country. There are so many different ports

834
00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:46.320
<v Speaker 1>and everything else under under the ground. It's unbelievable anyway,

835
00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:51.480
<v Speaker 1>my product mean, secrecy is so so why wouldn't they

836
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:53.079
<v Speaker 1>want to hide it? Why do they want to talk

837
00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:56.559
<v Speaker 1>about each creature is probably the same lanes and then

838
00:46:56.639 --> 00:47:00.079
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about aliens no or or UFOs, this and

839
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:03.920
<v Speaker 1>that and everything else. To me, maybe because of the

840
00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:09.599
<v Speaker 1>species or is as an intelligence, they don't think that

841
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:12.119
<v Speaker 1>we need to know about it. Maybe they want to,

842
00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:16.239
<v Speaker 1>they want to capitalize on themselves. I don't know, but

843
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:22.000
<v Speaker 1>secrets human is it is all talk about. Uh. I

844
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:24.960
<v Speaker 1>wish I had answered. I wish I could say, well

845
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:26.559
<v Speaker 1>and one the other. All I can do is speculating,

846
00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:29.119
<v Speaker 1>and that's all I can do. They just don't want

847
00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:31.239
<v Speaker 1>people to know about these creatures because, uh, you know,

848
00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:35.639
<v Speaker 1>they don't want people to ask questions, you know, they

849
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:38.239
<v Speaker 1>want to you know, go ahead and make people think, oh,

850
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:41.280
<v Speaker 1>these things don't exist. This is you know, it's like

851
00:47:41.639 --> 00:47:46.400
<v Speaker 1>the UFO thing. You know, back in the nineties, eighties, seventies,

852
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:48.840
<v Speaker 1>sixties or fifties, and they're are and back you know,

853
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:51.800
<v Speaker 1>talked about UFOs. They thought you were crazy. But in

854
00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:54.280
<v Speaker 1>two thousand, what two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight,

855
00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:57.400
<v Speaker 1>when the UH video shows and all of a sudden

856
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:01.719
<v Speaker 1>they popped out with this and uh, people start and say, hey,

857
00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:06.360
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, you know, maybe these things aren't real. Uh.

858
00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:08.599
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a point in time coming, maybe in

859
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:11.400
<v Speaker 1>the future where they government. I said, okay, look, maybe

860
00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:13.119
<v Speaker 1>it's time to go ahead and must a cap off

861
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:16.119
<v Speaker 1>on this one too, and tell people won't care these

862
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:20.639
<v Speaker 1>things are real? Whose things exist? But one fella asked

863
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:23.880
<v Speaker 1>me one time, he said, he said, uh, why why

864
00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:26.639
<v Speaker 1>why can't tell us about aaryan species out there? They

865
00:48:26.679 --> 00:48:28.440
<v Speaker 1>make a stick? We're all alone and everything and all

866
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:29.840
<v Speaker 1>this show. Now they're starting to come out with it.

867
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:35.079
<v Speaker 1>I said, well, I mean, who knows, but my estimation

868
00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:39.519
<v Speaker 1>would be maybe if there's a violent species or maybe

869
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:44.519
<v Speaker 1>a aggressive species out there alien uh that wants to

870
00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:47.760
<v Speaker 1>destroy this cint of this world, they have it there.

871
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:49.800
<v Speaker 1>There are millions of years advance for most of they

872
00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:53.320
<v Speaker 1>have technology and weapons that our greatest scientists wanting in

873
00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Jubo for the next ten thousand years. And you know,

874
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:01.199
<v Speaker 1>they can wipe us out and in this squirrel's heartbeat,

875
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:06.119
<v Speaker 1>so maybe they don't want to do that because they

876
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:11.440
<v Speaker 1>cause all of a sudden the mean panic. And my

877
00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:19.360
<v Speaker 1>estimation on that is that the world was based on religion.

878
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:24.199
<v Speaker 1>Religion is to glue the whole humanity together. You know,

879
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:26.920
<v Speaker 1>it is our belief in God. I belief couse, I

880
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:30.239
<v Speaker 1>believe in God. I believe. What I'm saying is that

881
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:33.559
<v Speaker 1>that is what glue that holds the full world together

882
00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:38.039
<v Speaker 1>and keeps this world from giving you other chaos because

883
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:41.239
<v Speaker 1>you take away belief in God, you take away to religion,

884
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:44.599
<v Speaker 1>and you have other chaos. All of a sudden, now

885
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:48.440
<v Speaker 1>we're all by ourselves and we feel you know, how

886
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:51.920
<v Speaker 1>alone the rurally truly are and how defensial we are,

887
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:57.599
<v Speaker 1>and so it would be it would be complete chaos

888
00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:01.599
<v Speaker 1>if if people you know thought, because most of your

889
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:05.639
<v Speaker 1>basic Christian does not believe in alien life forms, they

890
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:10.880
<v Speaker 1>believe that you know, what we're sending is demons like Dan.

891
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:14.039
<v Speaker 1>You did you know that big Foot in Arkansas. You know,

892
00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:16.559
<v Speaker 1>they think they're demons, so we don't understand it. You see,

893
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:19.159
<v Speaker 1>that's how we think. If you're not understand it, it's

894
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:23.800
<v Speaker 1>got to be evil. That's not necessarily true, but that's

895
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:27.639
<v Speaker 1>where our mind is set is on. And so if

896
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:30.360
<v Speaker 1>it caused them, they said, okay, look we got aliens

897
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:32.440
<v Speaker 1>out here and come out here and attack this world

898
00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:35.239
<v Speaker 1>to roll up or whatever you know, and usual all

899
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:37.880
<v Speaker 1>for food. Well you know when we're in said okay,

900
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:40.400
<v Speaker 1>well great, well tomorrow morning while they kelp off think

901
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:43.400
<v Speaker 1>about it. No, you're going to go ahead and the trip. Yeah, yeah,

902
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I just know there where they exist on the team,

903
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:50.320
<v Speaker 1>tell you what they are or where they're from. And

904
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:53.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know. Well what do you think?

905
00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:57.079
<v Speaker 1>You think they're extraterrestoral or what's.

906
00:50:56.679 --> 00:50:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Your That's the million dollar question, ain't it. Here's what

907
00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:05.639
<v Speaker 2>I I think now again just my opinion. But like

908
00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:10.360
<v Speaker 2>the one you saw, for instance, obviously it was much

909
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:14.920
<v Speaker 2>larger than we are, you know, unlike anything else you

910
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:18.480
<v Speaker 2>had seen. But like you said, it had a man's profile,

911
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:21.960
<v Speaker 2>It stood on two legs, it had two arms, it

912
00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:25.880
<v Speaker 2>had hands, it had fingers, It was covered in hair,

913
00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:31.000
<v Speaker 2>and that sounds like something that's from this planet. There's

914
00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:33.679
<v Speaker 2>a lot of other things that have those same attributes,

915
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:38.440
<v Speaker 2>and it would really surprise me if something from outer space,

916
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:42.840
<v Speaker 2>some foreign planet somewhere in you know, a different galaxy,

917
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:46.559
<v Speaker 2>or something from a different dimension happened to have the

918
00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:49.679
<v Speaker 2>same physical attributes as things that live on this planet.

919
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:54.000
<v Speaker 1>That's true. That's true, and so I agree with you

920
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:57.280
<v Speaker 1>on that. Yeah, I kind of believe they're from here too.

921
00:51:57.400 --> 00:51:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I think they're just what they are. Maybe it miss

922
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:02.719
<v Speaker 1>link it at least to call years ago between you know,

923
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:06.760
<v Speaker 1>a man and I don't know animal that they I

924
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:09.679
<v Speaker 1>don't know. They've over the years adapted. They hide on

925
00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:11.400
<v Speaker 1>the ground, they do this and that I don't know.

926
00:52:11.679 --> 00:52:14.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, they don't seem to fit in the boxes

927
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:16.280
<v Speaker 2>that we've come up with so far.

928
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:20.719
<v Speaker 1>No, they don't. And well again again go back to

929
00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:23.639
<v Speaker 1>when you go back to the fact of the fact,

930
00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I personally believe in a part human park animal. When

931
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:34.760
<v Speaker 1>you come back understanding you know, part animal, jil aren't

932
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:39.079
<v Speaker 1>human having that human intail, so almost don't have a

933
00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:42.000
<v Speaker 1>reason humans do. So if you have a creature like

934
00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:43.760
<v Speaker 1>that that that has the speed and the jility of

935
00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:46.920
<v Speaker 1>an animal. Yet uh and the and the survival ones

936
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:50.119
<v Speaker 1>tak of an animal and the survival capabilities and camel

937
00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:54.239
<v Speaker 1>abilities of an animal yet has the human incense of

938
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:57.440
<v Speaker 1>human intel. You have the perfect creature, and you have

939
00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:02.079
<v Speaker 1>a creature that literally can how honesty because me they

940
00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:05.000
<v Speaker 1>can you know, train frame or held into the uh

941
00:53:05.559 --> 00:53:07.880
<v Speaker 1>into the woodline where you wouldn't even know they're there,

942
00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:10.840
<v Speaker 1>and walkid by them. Yet you know as big as

943
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:16.159
<v Speaker 1>they are. Yet you know have the intel to understand

944
00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:21.199
<v Speaker 1>how to avoid uh thrail cams as such. Well, how

945
00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:24.119
<v Speaker 1>come we don't see them anywhere? Well, they've probably seen

946
00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:27.159
<v Speaker 1>you more unlikely before you'll see them because they won't

947
00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:30.280
<v Speaker 1>have to hide in the woods, you don't, you know, uh,

948
00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:32.480
<v Speaker 1>and then you'll had a lot they're perfect you know

949
00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:35.960
<v Speaker 1>predator to go ahead and you know watch they were aggressive.

950
00:53:36.760 --> 00:53:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I believe that be a lot of dead human beings.

951
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:42.400
<v Speaker 1>So I don't think they're aggressive. That night we've seen

952
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:45.159
<v Speaker 1>that one there. Now, I had twelve gates and Bobby uh,

953
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:49.440
<v Speaker 1>my girlfriend's daddy had at four ten a good something

954
00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:51.920
<v Speaker 1>like that that big that's a that's pop. Does you

955
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:54.760
<v Speaker 1>know they can do a thing? We never fired a shot.

956
00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:56.639
<v Speaker 1>It ran away from us. Thank god it did now

957
00:53:56.679 --> 00:53:58.280
<v Speaker 1>it so it didn't come and try to attack us.

958
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I do load that twelve calling the shell would have

959
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:04.480
<v Speaker 1>and reloaded again, but uh it didn't. It didn't go

960
00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:06.880
<v Speaker 1>ahead and try to regress. It ran away from us. There,

961
00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:09.760
<v Speaker 1>not aggressive, and that's a that's a good thing. What

962
00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:11.800
<v Speaker 1>we saw was big enough to go ahead and do

963
00:54:11.880 --> 00:54:14.440
<v Speaker 1>some serious damage for wanting to and it ran away

964
00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:19.119
<v Speaker 1>from us. That's a big creature. My I mean, people

965
00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:22.360
<v Speaker 1>can't speak it. I understand what eight foot is. Yeah,

966
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:27.280
<v Speaker 1>it's big. It's big. Eight foot is big. And I'm

967
00:54:27.559 --> 00:54:30.519
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about six seven, eight hundred pounds. That's a

968
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:31.639
<v Speaker 1>bee strike there. Huh.

969
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:33.800
<v Speaker 2>You may not want to see one again, but uh,

970
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:37.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you've decided to come forward and start sharing

971
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:39.719
<v Speaker 2>your story because it's quite a story.

972
00:54:39.800 --> 00:54:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Man. Well here's the thing, and that's why I want

973
00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:44.840
<v Speaker 1>to kind of throw this in the mixed real fastest

974
00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:49.639
<v Speaker 1>or could it's being in prior military law enforcement. I

975
00:54:49.800 --> 00:54:52.760
<v Speaker 1>just want to encourage other people, all your listeners, whatever,

976
00:54:53.199 --> 00:54:56.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, other people that's in the background, military law enforcement.

977
00:54:57.199 --> 00:55:00.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, Hey, you got you got anything care come

978
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:02.519
<v Speaker 1>forward because people need to hear it. And it's going

979
00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:05.599
<v Speaker 1>to help you tremendously. I know, if keeping this thing

980
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:09.880
<v Speaker 1>aside me for almost fifty years, you know, it wasn't healthy,

981
00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:13.079
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't good. Once I let this out, I can't

982
00:55:13.159 --> 00:55:15.960
<v Speaker 1>tell you the therapy it's been for me. And so

983
00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I encourage everybody who has an encounter. I don't care.

984
00:55:19.079 --> 00:55:21.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, if it's about Bigfoot or dog len or

985
00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:25.679
<v Speaker 1>you go UFOs, whatever it may be. And you've been

986
00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:29.039
<v Speaker 1>keeping it up for years inside, let it out. People

987
00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:31.599
<v Speaker 1>need to hear it. People are becoming open, more prominded

988
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:35.480
<v Speaker 1>now and acceptable to these things, and so it's definitely

989
00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:36.440
<v Speaker 1>something that you want to do.

990
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:40.599
<v Speaker 2>Steve, thanks for coming on and talking to me and

991
00:55:40.719 --> 00:55:43.840
<v Speaker 2>sharing your story and some of your insights. I thoroughly

992
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:44.320
<v Speaker 2>enjoyed it.

993
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:47.079
<v Speaker 1>Man, well, I sure I appreciate your time and thank

994
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:48.079
<v Speaker 1>you for having the partner.

995
00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely
