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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks. Here's Kiss,

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your source of information and analysis to help you win

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your fantasy hockey league.

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Speaker 2: Block off hot a step hit on staylock blocks.

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Speaker 1: Here's your hosts, Jesse Sovier and Victor Nuno Fantasy.

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Speaker 3: Hockey Life back again. Jesse sphere with you, ready to

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talk fantasy hockey, the game of Dynasty and Victor Nunio

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and I are the co host. Victor. You will hear

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him plenty on this episode, but not at this particular

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moment because once again we are recording from separate locations.

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But we've got a really cool show today because Victor

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is on location with some great Fantasy Hockey Life lifers.

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A couple things to mention before we get into it.

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him or I will too if you'd like that. Also,

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we've got some exclusive player rankings that we do. We

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perk that comes along with that is something called the

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Tidy the Tiered Dynasty League. And at the end of

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this year of the Tier Dynasty League, we have a

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roundtable today and it's going to be all the fellas

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who are a part of the Commissioner team, and Victor

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will be interviewing them. Their hard work has been amazing

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all year long, and Timson and Ryan are all on

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this episode to do some talking with Victors. So right

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after this we're gonna get into the Tidy descertion.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back, everyone, and I'm really excited to bring you

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this episode. We have a whole team with us today.

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As Jesse mentioned in the intro, we have our Tidy Team,

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our Tidy commission Team, and we're gonna be talking all

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things Tidy this episode. You might think that if you're

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not in the Tidy this wouldn't be interesting for you,

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but I would argue that you might be a mistaken.

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There's a lot of good stuff that we're going to

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talk about and it's a really fun league, and so

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hopefully you'll stick around and listen to it. If you're

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in the tity, you definitely want to listen. We're gonna

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have a lot of great content for you. But before

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I get to a long winded I want to introduce

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everyone that we have with the team, the Tidy team here.

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So we have Tim, Simon and Ryan. How are we doing? Gentlemen? Tim,

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how are you? Let's start with you.

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Speaker 5: I am fantastic tonight, glad to be here talking Tidy

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Speaker 4: Guys. Nice? How are you? Simone?

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Speaker 6: Super duper Victor just him happy to be able to

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make time talk about Tidy.

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Speaker 4: And our Admiral Tidy, Right, teddy, Admiral Ryan, how are

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you doing with my friend?

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Speaker 2: I'm great, Victor, we're here, and Simon said, we're here

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making time, and indeed we are. For those of us

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on the East coast, this is eleven PM. So this

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is the lengths that we go to to get all

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the relevant information at the Tiered Dynasty League out to you,

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the listener, and hopefully a very listenable and tight more

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of a note for me than anyone else's hour or so.

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Thanks for joining us here today.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, thanks everyone, and yes we are. My voice

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might sound a little funny too. I am traveling for

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work in Vancouver, actually, and so it might sound a

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little bit different, but we all do we can to

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make time, and I really appreciate everyone doing that. I

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wanted to start with a little bit of this scene

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for this league because tity is a little bit different.

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It's a tiered dynasty. It has promotion relegation, and I

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remember when we first set this up, a lot of

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people said when you have dispersal teams and you have

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to draft a new team from just the teams that

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got promoted or relegated, that those teams would not be

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able to compete. And I think at this point we

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have pretty good evidence that is not true, that it

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is possible for dispersal teams to do really well, and

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so I think we should talk a little bit more

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about that. What do you have to say about that, Ryan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So before we get too deep into it, I

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feel like I should set up how this works for

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anyone who might be listening for the first time. This

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tiered dynasty league is a league that has several tiers,

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as we hear in the name here, and the way

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it works is you draft your team, great, you have

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your team, and you compete with your team. And there

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are number of people who have been playing for a

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couple of years who have had their same team since

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the beginning of this league. The people who are in

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the original four divisions, which we know as or Yoger, Gretzky,

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and Lemieux, so we name them after those four titans

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of the sport. And then we've expanded from there. We

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have a lower division or tier where we call that

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team tier Lidstrom. That is where kind of new managers

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enter into the league. And then we have the Lord

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Stanley Division which is at the top. That is our

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top division, Tier one, and that's where you're fighting for

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the ultimate tiered dynasty championship. And the way that this

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works is if you win, you move up, if you lose,

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you move down. We have promotion and relegation. So generally,

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and this is very general. If you want to hear more,

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you can go to Fantasy Hockeylife dot com slash tidy

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and you can see the diagram that has been built

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out to show exactly how this all works. But functionally,

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if you win the league, you move up a tier,

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and if you lose, you come in sixteenth place in

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the league, you move down a tier. We also have

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a mechanism called the omni fast track, which basically means

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the highest point for getting team in the entire higher

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tiered dynasty will automatically earn a promotion to Tier one

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from whatever tier that they're in. And so you could

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be entering into Tier three Lidstrom next season, and you

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could be in Tier one, Lord Stanley on the back

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of your incredible point scoring season, and you could end

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up in that top division. So there's a lot of

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ways to get up there. But that is the very

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basic framework of how it works. And so now I'm

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going to toss it over to Tim, who came up

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with a lot of what you're going to hear next

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about how we deal with the tricky and thorny matter

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of Okay, now these teams are vacated, what do we

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do with those players and how do we come up

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with a team for the incoming managers from the lower

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or higher tiers. So Tim, why don't you take it

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away and tell us a little bit about the dispersal

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drafts and how they helped set up these teams for

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success in the tidy.

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Speaker 5: So dispersal drafts. So you will have teams that are

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vacated as a result of promotion and relegation, so those

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players are put into a draft pool that the new

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general managers into the division will select from. So it's

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an interesting dynamic. So what we found this year if

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I just look at simply Tier one and Tier two,

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so that is Lord, Stanley, Gretzky, and Lemieux, what we

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found is fifty percent of the teams, fifty percent of

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the teams are currently now competing in either the championship

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round or the consolation round. So they've found some success,

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which is an interesting dynamic when you think that there

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are half the dispersal teams or half the dispersal teams

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in the dispersal draft where teams that were relegated. It's

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the results this year show us that even though you're

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in a dispersal draft, you can if you draft wisely,

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compete in the upcoming season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Tim, it's important to mention that it's not

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just our promoted and relegated teams that are part of

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this dispersal pool of players. We do have managers that

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for whatever reason decide that they're going to move on.

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and we can't really adjust, we might elevate a manager,

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certainly from Tier two to Tier one or Tier three

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to Tier two based on merit. So if you're a

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team that is performing very well, you'll get that promotion.

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here who have been playing for a long time, we've

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all been part of leagues where people have to step

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back for life reasons. Maybe they're having kids and they

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don't have the time, or maybe they've started a new

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job or something like that. So those teams end up

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vacated as well, and so you end up with a

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pool of players that is very exciting to pick from.

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we'll use this conversation to dovetail a little bit into

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some of these dispersal teams that happened to have some

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success this year. But I was looking at first overall

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picks in these dispersal drafts that included names like Nathan

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McKinnon and Connor McDavid just because the team was relegated

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didn't meet doesn't mean that they didn't have good players

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on them, and so I think it's important to note

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that if you're someone who's coming in and you're like, Okay,

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I'm going to be part of this dispersal draft, you're

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going to have great players to pick from. You're not

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just going to get the dregs. You're going to have

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some actual quality NHL players to build your core and

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then start to make moves from there and start to

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build your team.

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Speaker 4: I believe in Lord Stanley, which is a little bit

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of a different promotion and relegation, because we typically have

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at least three managers that join the dispersal every year,

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whereas in some of the lower divisions it might only

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be to the winner of the division below and the

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loser of the division above. And Lord Stanley, we typically

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had three, and we ended up having four because someone

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had to leave at the end. And unless I'm mistaken

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in reading this wrong, none of the dispersal teams ended

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up back in the relegation playoffs this season, and so

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that is a pretty that is a pretty good feather

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in the cap to be able to we all ended

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up in the middle. I was one of those, but

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at least we didn't end up at the bottom, and

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so that was an interesting note that I saw in

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the top division, which is I think a little bit

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different too, because in those divisions, as we talked about

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previously on the show, Ryan, that there isn't really a

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good as much wiggle room to trade top to bottom

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because you're always worried about relegation or winning. There isn't

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really like a rebuild sort of timeframe. So I thought

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that was interesting that happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Victor, I think we saw like as the season

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went on, and this is the great thing about starting

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this new kind of format, as you're always learning things

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about how this league actually works. I think the first

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year we realized, oh, goalie scoring, that is really a

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valuable to this league. So maybe goalies are very important.

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year was that there's a little bit less trading than

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you would think would happen, especially in Lord Stanley, because

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if you're at the top, you're trying to win, if

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you're at the bottom, you're trying to avoid relegation, and

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so the only real trade partners are in the middle.

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Victor you being one of those teams. You were fairly

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active this year. I was a middle team coming into

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the year, and I was fairly active this year before

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we'll get to it, but we finished pretty highly. I

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think the BFFs in the in the tidy hierarchy, and

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we'll get to that soon. Tim, I think you had

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a little bit more to share about the dispersal if

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I was going to follow up when we

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were talking about managers that have moved on from the

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turnover that we have in the off season. So it's

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interesting in tier three, right, So Tier three is your

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Jagger and your OR divisions, and they did have more

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than half of the teams that were entered into this dispersal.

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just gives more opportunity for new for new managers to

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Speaker 2: And Tim, it's it's almost like you're a professional at

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this podcasting thing, Tim, because you've given me the perfect

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segue here to move to our next topic by mentioning

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Tidy Yoger and OR Divisions. We're going to talk about

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two managers who have been with us pretty much the

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entire way here in the Tiered Dynasty, right from the beginning,

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or right from the first year at the very least,

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And the first one we're going to mention is someone

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who is definitely joining Lord Stanley Division next year is

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probably going to kick all of our butts who are

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up there. So Simon and Victor and I are shaking

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in our boots here because Miss Styx is finally making

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their move up to Lord Stanley. Last season, Miss Sticks

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won the Yoga Division undisputedly, just like a dominant performance

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in last year's Tidy twenty twenty three to twenty twenty

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four season, and she's well on her way this year

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to winning this year in Gretzky. And it doesn't actually

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matter if she wins in Gretzky or not, because she

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is the winner of our Omini fast Track for the

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best points four points scoring team in the entirety of

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the Tiered Dynasty, so she is guaranteed her spot in

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the Tiered Dynasty. But I do need to just shout

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out a thirteen to two record six thousand, seven hundred

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and two points, which I think is slightly higher than

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one of our highest point scoring team in the Lord

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Stanley Division. So certainly Mystics is going to be a

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very deserving entrant into the Lord Stanley Division next year,

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and I just wanted to outline a little bit of

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what brought Mystics there this year, because they were a

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dispersal team entering the league from Yager as the winner

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last season, and she ended up with the first overall pick,

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which she used on Nathan McKennon, which is a pretty

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great way to start building a team. If I go

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down through the next few picks, she picked Victor Headman,

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Connor Hellibuck, Adrian Kempe, Charlie McAvoy, Matt Barzel, Eric Carlson,

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Ryan Nugent, Hopkins, Mattias Ekholm, so working her way down

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through some very solid pro picks before picking Walstead and

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Stankhoven as the first two kind of young ish players

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US young star prospect types. So what she did was

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she established a solid core of veterans from these dissolved

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teams and then guys, I did had a little bit

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of a deep dive here into her team and some

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of the moves that she made over the course of

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the season, and just like anyone later in the draft,

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you're picking up some of these depth pieces, and you're

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hoping maybe some of them might work out for you,

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and some of them just won't probably, And so she

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had acquired Jonas Brodein, for instance, as part of her

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as part of her dispersal draft. So she sent Brodine

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away with Ryan Strom and brought back in Andrew man Japani,

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who is having a bit of a hot streak right now,

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probably helping her win her matchup right now, Anthony Manfa,

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who you know hasn't done much since his injury, Josh Manson,

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who is a bit injured right now. But it's those

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kind of moves that kind of build. You start to

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build the team based on what has provided to you,

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based like in this dispersal draft. And she made a

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ton of moves. I'm just gonna whip through them. Some

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of them here. She did an absolute robbery here of

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trading trading Ricard Raquel and Henry Thrun for Sidney Crosby,

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reuniting him with Ovechkin on her team. She used the

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aforementioned Justper Walstead and Denti Mattachuck to acquire Jake Gentzel.

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There are a lot of moves here where you could see, oh,

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she picked this player in the dispersal draft and then

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she used him to upgrade to players that can help

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her win now, and win now is what she's doing.

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And so this is one of the strategies that you

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can use if you're someone coming into the tiered dynasty

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next season. This could be you too, with just a

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little bit of elbow grease, a little bit of getting

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to know some of the people in the league and

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how they like to trade. And I think we'll probably

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be seeing a lot of Mystics on next season's tidy

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Takes as well.

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Speaker 4: I would imagine so, and I think we should probably

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hear from Simon and Hey, because we haven't yet. But

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also I believe you were up against that free train

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that was miss sticks for a bit in Gretzki.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's thank you, Victor for the segue, And that's

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exactly what I was going to say. Yeah, No, what

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I noticed from Mystics is that super aggressive on the

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trade market. It's always good to reward or be rewarded

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when you're to be aggressive on the trade block, knocking

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on doors, make those moves and proofs in the pudding.

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She was aggressive as soon as she got to Gretzki.

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We went back and forth on a couple of trades.

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I think our first attempt was at trying to pull

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my stud Cam Fowler off my roster, which never ended

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up coming to fruition.

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Speaker 7: But she made a lot of moves right.

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Speaker 6: Off the hop and ended up, like you said, with

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a thirteen and two team tied with my old team

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that was now finished off at thirteen and two, won

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the Gretzki Division. It's a tough division. She was super

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aggressive and it paid off. So that's a good reminder

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to every GM that's in any fantasy league that if

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you're aggressive and you make the moves, more likely than not,

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you're gonna have a little bit more success.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, that's a great point. And yes, I

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definitely like what you said too, Ryan about the use

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assets to do other things with them. You don't necessarily

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need to have prospects have certain players that are going

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to give you fantasy points on your team, but you

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can use them as leverage. You can use them to

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acquire some players to help you. So there's lots of

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different ways that you can use it, and not just

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to not just pick players that you like, or you

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have to think about your time frame. And I think

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she was very strategic with picking players that people might

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be interested in or might be ready sooner than later

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that she could trade and leverage. So definitely a good

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point there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think if you look at some of

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the teams that had less success than they were hoping for,

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especially in the Lord Stanley Division, you'll find a lot

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of inactive teams that were stuck in this value proposition

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of do I trade away my best star to get

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the star prospect or vice versa. Am I handicapping myself

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going forward here and by making some of these moves.

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And it's not your typical dynasty league, Victor, as you've

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said countless times, because of this promotion and relegation format,

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you can't have as much patience as you might have

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if you're in say a thirty two team league and

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you're twenty eighth and you're rebuilding. It doesn't work quite

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that way here in the TIDY, I wanted to highlight

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another team here, Victor. We had we have Sasha Leguard,

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who's someone who won last season in Tidy to move

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up to this third division and currently facing off against

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friend of the show Blame, who is also the commission

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of the thirty two team skole league, the victor and

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I have just joined, and I'm sorry to say blame,

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but Sasha is going to win up. I think last

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I checked, one hundred and fifty points going into the

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weekend here. Not bad, hey, blame making it to the

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finals here for the first year in tidy, but Sasha

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is just an unstoppable force in the exact same way

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that Mystics is and just to go really quickly through

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some of the decisions that they made here. Sasha also

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went first overall in the dispersal, picking McDavid, Yosi, Hyman, Crosby, Wiger, Tuck, Woll, Marciasso, Carlson, Latang.

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You're going down. These are all really solid NHL contributors

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and built a solid core of these veterans. Fewer trades

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here from Sasha, but one that stands out to me

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is acquiring Alex Ovechkin for Berkeley Catton. Very simple trade

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there that brought Ovi and Crosby in very productive veteran

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seasons for them to his team giving up Catton, as

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I said, and even this week with McDavid out and

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with Crosby not competing for a playoff spot, still crushing

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in their matchup against blame this week. The last thing

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I want to mention with Sasha's team is tons of

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goalies with this team has Charlie Lindgren, Cam Talbot, Alex Giorgiyev,

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James Rymer, Joseph wool Scott Wedgwood. So getting a lot

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of points from those goalie starts, which I don't think

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we've mentioned this, but we do have minimum games played.

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Are maximum games played of seventy five per week? Those

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goalie starts do not count though, So here's a valid

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strategy as well. So what do you guys think of

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how Sasha has again taken over one of these dispersal

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rosters via the draft and then made it their own

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such that they're going to move up to the next year.

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Speaker 4: Demm, you have some thoughts.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Sasha's team is interesting. Through the year, as I

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tracked the weekly standings and the weekly results, Sasha's team

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started off in the middle of the pack, and slowly

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throughout the year began to rise. And what's the old story.

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You want to peak at the right time, and Sasha's

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team definitely is peaking at the right time.

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Speaker 4: I will say about the goalie strategy, it's one that

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I love as well. I think that when the league

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was set up, one of the things we made a

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conscious decision to make sure goalies were valued that way,

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and because they're not included in the limit, is a

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huge strategy to have goalies, and in particular paying attention

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to goalies who might play on a lot of off nights,

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which Washington tends to do. So you mentioned lin Gren.

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When there's some other goalies that you might target, especially

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ones that are in a tandem, it might be I'm

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not a huge fan of tandem owning tandems in a

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lot of situations, but in the tidy where you have

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a games played limit for your skaters, and it really

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isn't about necessarily maximizing your games played for your skaters,

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it's a good way to just get extra points and

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extra starts from your goalies who do not have a limit.

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So getting a whole bunch of goalies is something that

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I like to try to do too. And I remember

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in the Dispersal draft a lot of times I was

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stuck between a couple players, and my strategy whenever that

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happens is just to take a goalie, because if these

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two skaters seem relatively even, just take the goalie and

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you get a free hopefully some free points there and

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it doesn't count towards your limit. Were you a high

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goalie man there, Simon.

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Speaker 7: I don't.

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Speaker 6: When Tidy first opened up, I faded goalies hard and

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I'm finished middle of the pack in grat Ski in

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the first season. And then in the offseason, we were

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having these Tidy meetings to see how the league was doing,

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check the health, if there's any adjustments we had to make.

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And I was one of the guys that was like

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complain about these goalie points.

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Speaker 7: Because it was not my strategy.

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Speaker 6: I sucked, but I came to the conclusion that not

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every single league is going to be the same. I

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think that's also part of playing fantasy sports, that it's

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nice to be able to have a little bit of

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a selection and how leagues are played. This one here

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is a little bit different than some of my other leagues,

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and I just made the adjustments. Following year, I picked

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up every scrap goalie on the waiver wire i could.

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I was pretty aggressive on the trade block and I improved.

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Speaker 7: I think I was.

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Speaker 6: I ended up getting finishing second last, and I drafted

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Fan Tilly and the following year I ended up just

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one spot shy of the championship playoffs, so huge rocket

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up the standings and then proofs in the pudding. As

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soon as I saw, like how awesome I had increased

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my fan point production that year that that was pretty

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much a viable strategy for the Tidy. So even when

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I moved up to Stanley, that was something I noticed

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that was a hole in my roster right off the hop.

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Speaker 7: Goalies need more goals, simone.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more about having to adjust

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your strategy to play in a league like this, and

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ultimately I do think it makes you a better fantasy player.

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It makes you just consider different options to score points.

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I think we talk most of the time about okay,

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you got it, Like for those of us in redraft leagues,

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I think we're really talking a lot about scheduled maximization,

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which players are playing four games this week, get rid

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of the players who are playing two games, and that

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is a great way to play. Having something like the

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Tidy where you have to consider we also have points

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for Fenwick, give away takeaway percentage, we have other things

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that make some of these defensive defensemen more valuable. So

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it just makes you think about players and their output

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in a different way, and I think it just does

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as they say, the rising tide lifts all boats. It

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just makes you a better fantasy player because you're considering

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all sorts of different ways to play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, and I just want to say a

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little bit more about that. There are some people who

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maybe play in one or two leagues, and I get

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and I'm definitely on the high end of that, and

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I probably need to cut down a number of leagus

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because I'm all over twenty. But I do think that

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there's a sweet spot where in a lot of situations,

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if you play in one fantasy hockey league, you probably

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only have context for that one league because every league

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00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,400
is so different. It's not like some of the other

478
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,519
sports that are similar minderstanding from football and some of

479
00:24:25,599 --> 00:24:28,759
the other ones, that there's some standardization. This is definitely

480
00:24:28,839 --> 00:24:31,920
not the case, and so when you see these different

481
00:24:32,039 --> 00:24:36,559
valuations and there's a learning curve. But also, as Ryan said,

482
00:24:36,599 --> 00:24:38,279
it makes you a better player because it makes you

483
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,920
just pay attention to the settings and the rules, and

484
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,279
as Simon said, you have to make adjustments and really

485
00:24:44,319 --> 00:24:47,480
the best strategies are just to cover up the players'

486
00:24:47,559 --> 00:24:51,279
names because we all have biases, and just look at

487
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,519
what are they doing in this league? What is the production?

488
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,200
What was it last year? What is their points per game?

489
00:24:56,279 --> 00:24:58,880
Are they consistent? Are they not injured? Like, just look

490
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,839
at the facts of what they're producing and not be

491
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,039
thinking about he plays for my favorite team or he

492
00:25:04,039 --> 00:25:06,759
plays for my rival team or any of those things,

493
00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:10,880
and just really learn the rules and what and who's

494
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,279
doing what based on the settings for that league. I

495
00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:15,599
think that's a really important lesson. And you only learn

496
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,119
that if you play in different leagues, and if you

497
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,640
only play in your one home league or something like that,

498
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,400
it doesn't really help you that much. So that's another

499
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,240
reason too, diversify your leagues. I think Simon had his

500
00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:26,000
hand up there.

501
00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, unless he's a Toronto maple leaf, and obviously you

502
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,079
pick him up immediately.

503
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, Yeah, I knew I was going to

504
00:25:33,039 --> 00:25:35,640
get some heat here for that. Thanks for that, Simon

505
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,640
knew I had a feeling something like that was going

506
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,319
to come up during this podcast record. Just talking Victor

507
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,599
about the different ways to play in the different ways

508
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,839
to evaluate players. It also forces you to think about

509
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,240
different ways to get an edge, right in this league,

510
00:25:49,279 --> 00:25:51,599
we do have five ads or drops we can use

511
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,200
every week, but the waiver wire is not exactly the

512
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,200
most ripe place to pick off good talent. And so

513
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,319
one way that I think a lot of our managers

514
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,279
get around that is they stream from their miners pool,

515
00:26:02,319 --> 00:26:05,359
and so they'll have players who are under one hundred

516
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,400
games played in the NHL and they are eligible to

517
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,240
be put into your miners and you can bring them

518
00:26:10,279 --> 00:26:12,400
up like you're streaming them in from the waiver wire,

519
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,240
but you get to just own them forever. And I

520
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,160
think if you look at any of the high end

521
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,640
teams in the Tidy this year, or any of the

522
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,759
teams that are high in the Omni Track, which we're

523
00:26:21,759 --> 00:26:24,279
going to segue into talking about here in just a second,

524
00:26:24,599 --> 00:26:28,359
you'll notice a lot of miners eligible players who are

525
00:26:28,519 --> 00:26:30,200
able to make their way up and down from the

526
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,440
lineup and give you those extra points in a week

527
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,039
where maybe maybe you've used all your ads or maybe

528
00:26:35,079 --> 00:26:37,759
there's just not much left on the waiver wire. For

529
00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:40,519
me this year, that player was Marco Casper, who is

530
00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:42,559
giving Simon a bit of a fit today as we

531
00:26:42,599 --> 00:26:46,319
are facing him in the Tidy third place game, and

532
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,839
so a player like that, who maybe I wouldn't use

533
00:26:49,839 --> 00:26:52,000
a move on him in a redraft all the time,

534
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,440
but I just have him for free on my team

535
00:26:54,519 --> 00:26:55,839
right now, and I can just bring him up as

536
00:26:55,839 --> 00:26:58,400
part of the roster anytime I want to. Did you

537
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,799
guys find a lot of success this year with kind

538
00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:01,920
of streaming from the firm?

539
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,799
Speaker 5: Yeah? I kept, oh boy, anywhere between three to five

540
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:10,240
players who were miners eligible but playing in the NHL.

541
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,960
Going back to that whole goalie thing. The reserve spots

542
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,400
in the toddy and we have twelve reserve spots, so

543
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,960
the reserve is actually quite deep, which is also helpful.

544
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,720
So you can stream players in and you can maybe

545
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,880
carry a couple extra spot that you would break out

546
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,559
typically allocate to different positions to help bump up your

547
00:27:31,599 --> 00:27:32,680
fantasy points.

548
00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:36,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I'm going to comment on my old roster,

549
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,200
my Teddy Gretzky roster, because I built that team from

550
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,240
the ground up, and one I handed it off to

551
00:27:43,839 --> 00:27:48,799
the next manager. I had a full plethora roster miners

552
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,960
that were playing and supplementing my team, the guys that

553
00:27:52,039 --> 00:27:53,880
had hold on for a while or that I had

554
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,079
just picked up in the miners. The year before when

555
00:27:56,079 --> 00:27:58,039
I was selling off guys like Mitch gov that I

556
00:27:58,079 --> 00:28:01,880
picked off Victor at the trade deadline the year before Zellweger,

557
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:07,759
Drew Ellison, A Svetchkov, yet Lecramachi and then Goldie Hoarding

558
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,279
I was I had asked Rob Levi primo all in

559
00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:13,039
the minors, right, So these guys are just not even

560
00:28:13,079 --> 00:28:15,440
taking up any sort of roster spots. They're just sitting

561
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,960
there and I could flex them up and down. Just

562
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,559
what ends up happening is you end up in a

563
00:28:20,599 --> 00:28:22,960
sweet spot where maybe you had too many guys that

564
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,759
are graduating, and then that bottom kind of starts. You

565
00:28:25,799 --> 00:28:27,480
have to pick and choose on who you want to

566
00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:30,160
cut off and cut bait. Right, let's ended up what

567
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,759
was happening on that roster. It was peaking at a

568
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,640
very good point. Like Tim said, you try and planet

569
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,400
so everybody's peaking at the right time and then you

570
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,720
and then hopefully that leads you to a championship run.

571
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,400
Otherwise you end up having to cut bait potentially with

572
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,480
some prospects that maybe they're good, but they haven't hit

573
00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:48,279
their peak yet.

574
00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that the minor streaming in this league

575
00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:55,200
is good for a couple of reasons. One, as you said, Ryan,

576
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,880
there isn't really a whole lot on the wire, and

577
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,400
because you're limited by games played, and some of the

578
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,000
guys on the wire could end up giving you negative

579
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,319
points or very few points, and if you're getting one

580
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,000
or two fantasy points and a game's played wasted, it's

581
00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:12,759
almost like why did I even bother? So that isn't

582
00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:15,759
always that helpful. On the other hand, sometimes it's a

583
00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:17,960
bit different than some of the other leagues that don't

584
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,480
have a limit, because you just want as many games

585
00:29:20,519 --> 00:29:23,160
as possible. So sometimes the mayor guys that you have

586
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,319
might actually not be worth it in certain games or

587
00:29:28,319 --> 00:29:30,519
certain situations to put them in. But it's really good

588
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:34,599
to have that option because oftentimes, as young players will do,

589
00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:37,000
they go through cycles and they might get hot for

590
00:29:37,119 --> 00:29:39,279
a few games or a week and they might they

591
00:29:39,359 --> 00:29:41,400
might want to put them in, or if there's specific

592
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,839
off days that are helpful for you to get them in.

593
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,519
But a lot of times, certainly on the busy days,

594
00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:48,559
you aren't putting those guys in anyways, so you're not

595
00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:50,519
really worried about that. But it is nice to have

596
00:29:50,559 --> 00:29:52,680
the option, and you don't have to go searching the

597
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,440
wire and you can just put them in on those

598
00:29:54,519 --> 00:29:55,079
light days.

599
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: And I'm going to use this conversation to segue a

600
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,559
little bit into the omni track discussion by just pointing

601
00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:05,440
out that the second place team on our Omni Track

602
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,720
fast Track ranking here was Scott Deter. Scott Deter, who

603
00:30:09,759 --> 00:30:12,359
is our friend from Tidy Lidstrom, and he came in

604
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,640
second with six six hundred and eighty four point seventy

605
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,519
two points and part of some of the players that contributed.

606
00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:22,079
I'm looking right now this week at his finals matchup

607
00:30:22,079 --> 00:30:24,440
where it's looking like he's he's got it in the

608
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,279
bag to be moving up from Lidstrom to a higher division.

609
00:30:28,599 --> 00:30:30,960
And if I just look at his roster for today,

610
00:30:31,079 --> 00:30:34,480
there are guys like Leon Bicks, Stixel, Mark del Gaizo,

611
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:39,279
Wyatt Kaiser, Caden korjak Sam Belinski who are all minors

612
00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:43,519
eligible and all contributing in a really tangible way. Scott

613
00:30:43,559 --> 00:30:46,079
is up right now one hundred and five points or so,

614
00:30:46,519 --> 00:30:49,279
and forty five of those points are coming from these

615
00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:52,720
minors eligible guys who maybe they're not going to feature

616
00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:55,880
on your redraft team, like I think if Wyatt Kaiser

617
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,519
is your fourth defenseman on a redraft team, you're probably

618
00:30:58,519 --> 00:31:01,079
doing something wrong. But if you can just get those

619
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,759
free five points from the four shots one to hit

620
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,000
three blocks that he had today and thirty two minutes

621
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,000
on time on IOW Chicago, they're in trouble. But if

622
00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:13,000
you can get a player like that just and get

623
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,920
those free points, that is something that can that you

624
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,799
can Really it's a strategy that is viable when it

625
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:21,720
comes to teams that are moving up, and Scott used

626
00:31:21,759 --> 00:31:24,480
this to great effect this year in the Omni Track race.

627
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,680
He didn't close it out. He was short on Mystics

628
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,119
by about eighteen points, which is just how tight the

629
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,599
margins are here in the tidy. He was ahead of

630
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,119
Sea Bass from Tidy Lemieux by about eight points, who

631
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,039
was in turn ahead of Pishes Puddles from Lidstrom by

632
00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:42,200
about seven points. And so these four teams were very

633
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,519
tightly knotted in the battle here at the top of

634
00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:47,960
the Omni Track. And so, Victor, what do you make

635
00:31:48,079 --> 00:31:51,960
of yet another strategy, viable strategy to move up in

636
00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:54,200
a way that people can focus their energies here.

637
00:31:55,319 --> 00:31:57,279
Speaker 4: I wanted to give an extra shout out for Scott

638
00:31:57,279 --> 00:32:01,400
A tour as he is on the scored. I'm actually

639
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,079
up here in Vancouver, as I mentioned, and he lives

640
00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:05,799
not far and I mentioned I was coming up and

641
00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:08,480
we actually threw some discs today, played some disc golf.

642
00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:10,559
He ended up he's pretty good. He's going to be

643
00:32:10,599 --> 00:32:12,680
a player, so that was fun and actually blame me

644
00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:15,640
was there too, who We won't comment on his disc

645
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:20,319
golf skill level, but yeah, Scott is. And I will

646
00:32:20,319 --> 00:32:24,000
say one another thing about Scott. I think he probably

647
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,559
uses his access to me as a patron more than

648
00:32:26,599 --> 00:32:30,480
anyone else. And whether or not that's the reason he's

649
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,160
so successful or not, I'm not going to claim credit

650
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,200
for that, but he get He runs a lot of

651
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,839
things by me, which I think is helpful, like why

652
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,319
not why not use it if you have access to

653
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,960
get a second opinion. And I will say also that

654
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,000
he was super aggressive and pushing all your chips in,

655
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,559
and I think when you're pushing your chips in like that,

656
00:32:49,599 --> 00:32:52,839
you better better win, and he did. He didn't win

657
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,359
the Omni Track, but I think he would tell you

658
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,240
that he wanted to earn it the hard way, and

659
00:32:57,279 --> 00:32:59,599
so that's what he's doing. He's going up tier by tier,

660
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:02,440
well at least this year anyways, and then we'll see

661
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,319
what happens after that. But no, I think that that

662
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,680
aggressive style and pushing all your chips in has been

663
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,400
really fun to watch. And I kept telling them with

664
00:33:11,799 --> 00:33:14,759
every suggestion he put in front of me, I said,

665
00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:16,559
you better win. That's all I have to say is

666
00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:18,720
you better win because this team is going to be

667
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,599
terrible if you don't. It's old and you're going to

668
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,079
have a hard time if it doesn't work out this year.

669
00:33:26,759 --> 00:33:29,359
Speaker 2: Maybe we won't get into every move that Scott made,

670
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,279
but I do want to shout out how this kind

671
00:33:31,319 --> 00:33:34,720
of minor streaming strategy works for some of these teams.

672
00:33:34,759 --> 00:33:37,079
And what I've done is I actually went and I

673
00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:40,240
looked at our service time on fan tracks. They have

674
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:43,079
this great feature where you can look and see which

675
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,519
games you actually had players in your roster for and

676
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:49,440
how many active slots you had at any given time

677
00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:51,519
in the season. And so I just want to go

678
00:33:51,559 --> 00:33:54,920
through these teams here. Mystics at the top had used

679
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:59,880
a one hundred and eighteen unique players in the Tidy League.

680
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:02,720
This year, we only have space on our rosters I

681
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,000
think for forty nine, right, Victor it's around that numbers,

682
00:34:06,039 --> 00:34:08,840
not much more than that, and so to have mystics

683
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,360
our omni track winner with one hundred and eighteen roster

684
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,559
players should tell you what the viable strategy is there.

685
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,159
Just going down through the list here, Scott used one

686
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,559
hundred and thirteen roster players, SeaBASS used ninety, which is

687
00:34:22,599 --> 00:34:26,440
the I would say the median with players coming in

688
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,320
from the waivers. I'd say ninety is pretty close to

689
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,400
the average. And I want to shout out Pish here.

690
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,840
Pish is one of our most entertaining discord members. A

691
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,559
lot of great conversations start with Pish and finish with Pish,

692
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,079
but I want to shout out the Pish used. Get

693
00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:47,480
ready for this one hundred and forty six separate roster

694
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:51,039
players and finishing fourth in Lidstrom and so you can

695
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:53,519
really volume your way to it. I did actually pull

696
00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:56,480
all of our roster players as well, and I'm just

697
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,760
going to shout it out here before talking about our

698
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,960
tidy champion mat as well. Simon you used eighty four

699
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,719
roster players, the BFFs, myself and Edward used eighty nine

700
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:12,199
roster players. Tim used ninety roster players, and Victor comes

701
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,880
in at the top of our four our quartet of

702
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,320
hosts here with one hundred and eighteen roster players. And

703
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,360
so this is certainly the strategy that these teams were

704
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,000
trying to employ to move up the standings. And it's

705
00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:25,719
a way that you can play as well if you

706
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,119
joined us at the tier Dynasty.

707
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 7: And let's not forget that Scottisher.

708
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 6: Might be finishing second in the Ami Chak, but he's

709
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,880
arguably winning one of the best divisions Listroam Division came

710
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,159
in and they have three players in the Omni Track

711
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,239
and from what's supposed to be the worst division, they

712
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:52,880
finished second in fan points per division behind Stanley, And

713
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,480
what's supposed to be the bottom sure doesn't look like

714
00:35:55,519 --> 00:35:59,199
it because that division cut it up this year. Top

715
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,800
players super regressive and wildly entertaining in the chat room too.

716
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,079
Speaker 4: If I do say, yeah, for sure, I think we're

717
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:10,079
gonna talk a little bit more about Tidy List from later.

718
00:36:10,159 --> 00:36:12,639
But why don't we take our break right now and

719
00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:14,840
we're gonna come back and talk about a couple of

720
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,880
more really interesting topics about the Tidy and stay with us.

721
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,360
We'll be back and just to sec with the Tidy

722
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:33,519
Commission team welcome back nuveryone. We're talking all things Tidy

723
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:36,920
on this episode with our Tidy Commission team, Ryan Simoon

724
00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:39,360
and Tim and we've covered a lot of good stuff

725
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,360
from the first segment. We've got a couple of other

726
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,679
really interesting things to talk about, including some of the

727
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,039
happenings in our top division, our Lord Stanley Division, and

728
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:52,559
some teams that are really improved and hopefully give you

729
00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:54,400
some more strategies that you can help in your own

730
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,559
league as well. Ryan, did you want to take it away?

731
00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: I'd love to Victor as potentially the top finishing team

732
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,800
out of the four of us here, and I'll let

733
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,760
Simo and chop back at me if he wants to

734
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,199
a little bit there. I do want to just highlight

735
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,800
what's been going on in our Tidy Lord Stanley Division

736
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,639
this year and just give people a little bit of

737
00:37:14,679 --> 00:37:16,639
context as to how we got to this point. And

738
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:18,800
so we started the league back in I think, Victor

739
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,920
correct me if I'm wrong. Twenty twenty two was our

740
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,559
first year of operations as the Tiered Dynasty League here,

741
00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:27,119
and we started with those four divisions I mentioned earlier,

742
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:31,559
Or Yager, Gretzky, and Lemieux and the whole idea being Okay,

743
00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:33,519
we're going to have a top division, we're going to

744
00:37:33,559 --> 00:37:36,519
have a bottom division, and these four divisions, we will

745
00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:39,559
take the top four teams from each of these divisions

746
00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:44,119
and make that as the top Lord Stanley Division. So

747
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,199
to become part of that top division, you just had

748
00:37:46,199 --> 00:37:48,480
to be one of the top four teams. It's the BFFs,

749
00:37:48,519 --> 00:37:52,880
myself and my co manager, Edward Swan, graphic designer extraordinary.

750
00:37:53,039 --> 00:37:54,880
You've probably seen some of his work if you're a

751
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,320
Fantasy Hockey Life Discord member kicking around on that discord

752
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,199
in the form of team avatars and that kind of thing.

753
00:38:01,639 --> 00:38:04,760
We won in the tidy or league in the first

754
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,519
season there to secure our way there, but we've all

755
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:10,000
kind of made it there in our own different ways.

756
00:38:10,199 --> 00:38:13,280
Victor is a competitor in the in the top Division,

757
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,519
as is Simon. Why don't you guys just set up

758
00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:17,800
a little bit how you guys got to this league,

759
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,039
and then we'll talk about how everything's been going so

760
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:20,719
far this year.

761
00:38:21,679 --> 00:38:24,079
Speaker 4: I'll mention mine because I think it's probably the easiest.

762
00:38:24,159 --> 00:38:27,920
I was in Gretzky for the last couple of years,

763
00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:32,519
and with Simon and we I like Simone did not

764
00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:34,920
do the first year, and even though I set up

765
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,559
the league, I still had to figure out how to

766
00:38:36,639 --> 00:38:38,719
compete well in it, and it wasn't clear. I had

767
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,519
to imagine some of my strategy. But then last year

768
00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:44,239
I really did well, put it together and won. In fact,

769
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,639
I think I knocked you out in the semi semo

770
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:51,039
if I remember correctly. He doesn't remember all of a sudden,

771
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,559
but yeah, So I was able to win that division,

772
00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:58,119
and that's what earned my birth in Lord Stanley, Jim,

773
00:38:58,159 --> 00:38:58,800
what about.

774
00:38:58,599 --> 00:39:01,639
Speaker 5: You, Lord Stanley. So it was a short lived time

775
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,519
and when I first looked at the team, I took

776
00:39:04,519 --> 00:39:08,599
over a team January is timeframe. The team was lower

777
00:39:08,639 --> 00:39:11,920
in the standings. I take stock of the take stock

778
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,800
of the roster. And then because of the Lord Stanley

779
00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:19,639
relegation terms, right, you'll have the relegation round robin, three

780
00:39:19,679 --> 00:39:23,639
of those four teams will get relegated. So I had

781
00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:25,960
to be really aggressive on the trade front to try

782
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,159
and upgrade my team and take a shot at finishing

783
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:34,159
first in that round robin. It's an interesting division. It's

784
00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:37,079
a difficult division. There are a lot of shrewd gms

785
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:41,840
in that division. It is the ultimate test, definitely competing

786
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,480
with that group of people. So to get in, to

787
00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:47,519
gain into that division, and to stay in that division

788
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:50,800
and stay relevant and compete, you definitely have to be

789
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,800
a top notch GM.

790
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,599
Speaker 2: And Simone you were one of those top notch gms

791
00:39:55,599 --> 00:39:59,199
that we elevated as well from Tidy Gritzky. At Gretzky,

792
00:39:59,199 --> 00:40:01,239
why don't you tell us a little bit about how

793
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,400
you made your way to Lord Stanley and how you've

794
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,519
been finding it this season.

795
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,039
Speaker 6: Yeah, shout out to Tim. Though you went in there

796
00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:10,639
last year like a wrecking ball.

797
00:40:11,199 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 7: You you made some dog trains man.

798
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 6: There are some predators out there that very opportunistic one

799
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,280
of them and maybe got an ecohesh here in this

800
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,519
from Stanley and your team, right, I didn't go in

801
00:40:23,559 --> 00:40:27,280
there quite the same circumstances. I took over a team

802
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,519
after battling it out for a couple of seasons in

803
00:40:29,559 --> 00:40:31,719
Gretzky and yes, the victor. You did kick me out

804
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,440
of the playoffs in that first year, and then the

805
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,440
second year you we had that big, big break before

806
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,400
you a major run to winning Gretzky. We made that

807
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,239
big trade and you got that was the bomb year

808
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,000
from Boucher right, he was swimming, really broke out. I

809
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,639
think it was somewhere my ten plus fan points that season,

810
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,039
and he was easily one of the top fantasy players

811
00:40:53,039 --> 00:40:55,119
in Gretzky and I had him in my roster and

812
00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:55,760
I picked him.

813
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 7: High in the inaugural draft. But I'll trade.

814
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 6: Anybody on a roster, and I think that's how anybody

815
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,119
has to be if you want to get to a

816
00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:09,039
championship level and sustain it, Like Victor noted before you

817
00:41:09,159 --> 00:41:11,679
try and had that name, even it's a favorite player,

818
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,039
look at what the return is, Look what you're trying

819
00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:17,119
to achieve, and in your game plan. It's not like

820
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:19,559
Bouchard was an old guy. But I'd got a huge package.

821
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:25,079
And then this coming season, those assets that I got

822
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:29,199
from Victor that year before ended up launching me to

823
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,880
I ended up being nine and oh to start the season,

824
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,559
and after one of the Stanley managers was couldn't had

825
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:39,719
to drop out, couldn't couldn't keep a whole of his

826
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,519
roster anymore. I was just ended up being one of

827
00:41:42,559 --> 00:41:44,519
the one of the better the teams in TIDY at

828
00:41:44,599 --> 00:41:47,360
that time, being nine and oh and just taking care

829
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,840
of business and obviously I jumped up in Stanley to

830
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:51,639
take his spot.

831
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, what's up, Bryan.

832
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,119
Speaker 2: It was an obvious choice I think for us to

833
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,360
make to bring you up to Lord Stanley after how

834
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,480
strong you had been. And one of the things we

835
00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:03,440
should mention is that Lord Stanley, we're not just going

836
00:42:03,519 --> 00:42:05,920
to throw anyone in there to take over a team.

837
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,920
We really want to make sure that if we have

838
00:42:08,599 --> 00:42:10,599
the circumstance where someone has to leave in the middle

839
00:42:10,639 --> 00:42:12,679
of the season and give up their team, that we're

840
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,239
going to make sure it's the highest quality managers from

841
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,360
the lower leagues who move up. And Simon, you took

842
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,199
that team all the way to fourth place, probably maybe

843
00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:25,079
third place, depending on how the next two days goes.

844
00:42:25,199 --> 00:42:27,639
If you haven't figured it out by now, dear listener,

845
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,719
Simon is facing the BFFs Ajax Tidy Nights versus the

846
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,360
BFFs in a knockdown, drag them out match here. It

847
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,239
has been fairly close, a bit of a nailbier over

848
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,679
the past couple of weeks, been a separation. I actually, Simon,

849
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,679
maybe you can, maybe we can have a live reveal

850
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,440
here on the podcast, but I actually haven't looked at

851
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,440
anything yet. From tonight. So you could very well be

852
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,079
ahead and I could just be talking out of I

853
00:42:51,159 --> 00:42:51,679
you know what.

854
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,519
Speaker 6: I've taken a look because I was gonna I was

855
00:42:55,559 --> 00:42:59,039
going to organically bring it up obviously that I was ahead,

856
00:42:59,039 --> 00:43:01,280
But no, you still got nice little lead on me.

857
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:04,320
That's going to be a pretty good weekend. But yeah, no,

858
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,360
thanks for saying that. Yeah, it was having a pretty

859
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:06,800
good year.

860
00:43:07,039 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 7: And even when you.

861
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 6: When it was brought up that maybe I should be

862
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:11,920
the one, my first reaction was, oh, maybe not me,

863
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:14,400
just because I am part of a tidy commission team.

864
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,360
But yeah, it was having an awesome year in Gretzki.

865
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,199
Whoever took over the team ended up kept that train

866
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,320
going as well. And it's also hard when you're obviously

867
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,719
things happen. There's managers that drop out, that happened throughout

868
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,480
the season. There's more than one manager that drop out,

869
00:43:29,519 --> 00:43:32,320
and we always try and give the opportunity to somebody

870
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,079
that is having a good season somewhere else in a

871
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:38,079
lower tier to be able to move up. But it's

872
00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:41,599
happened in some of these other dropouts that hey, I

873
00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:43,760
don't want to let go with my team. Some managers say, hey,

874
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,119
I am my roster is looking really good. It's a

875
00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:49,280
championship team. You're running the risk of, hey, I'm going

876
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,239
to pick up this roster maybe in a higher division.

877
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,599
In this roster, Wow, no wonder the manager left this

878
00:43:55,679 --> 00:43:59,280
team sucks, so they might not want to let go

879
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:02,679
of their awesome roster. And it was hard for me

880
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,320
at first, for sure, because that Gretzky roster. It's three

881
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,920
years and now I'm just about to start reaping the

882
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,280
rewards of that investment that I made on this roster,

883
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,559
and then I'll go draft. I was one of those

884
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:21,559
guys that was trading away high prole players for higher

885
00:44:21,679 --> 00:44:24,280
minor picks right the more so I could get more

886
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,679
high end prospects, so that I was going for the

887
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,480
long game right off the hop so finally to get

888
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,920
the rewards and then let go.

889
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 7: Of that roster to get a crack at Stanley.

890
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 6: I did do it, and I am facing the BFS

891
00:44:39,519 --> 00:44:41,840
in third place championship match, which I didn't even think

892
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:42,559
I was gonna make.

893
00:44:42,639 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 7: Sometimes your roster just gets hot.

894
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, And well, I promise we'll stop just

895
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,760
talking about our fantasy matchups soon. But I do think,

896
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,760
like what you said about earlier about trading and trying

897
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,440
to find some value from some of these these maybe

898
00:44:57,559 --> 00:45:00,679
under owned players. Personally believe that the only way to

899
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,440
improve in this tiered Dynasta league is to trade roster

900
00:45:03,519 --> 00:45:06,519
players for other roster players, or to trade really good

901
00:45:06,559 --> 00:45:09,320
prospects for veterans who can help you. Right now, we

902
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,599
do have a little bit of an interesting wrinkle in

903
00:45:11,639 --> 00:45:15,599
that you can trade draft picks, but only prior to

904
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,679
our entry draft for the year. So we do get

905
00:45:18,679 --> 00:45:21,039
our draft picks at the beginning of the off season,

906
00:45:21,079 --> 00:45:23,440
we're allowed to trade them from that point on to

907
00:45:23,559 --> 00:45:25,920
improve our team in whatever way we want to. So

908
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,440
if that's trading for Jasper Bratt, for instance, someone to

909
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,480
be at the top of your roster instead of taking

910
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,000
a swing on someone like a James Hagen's this year,

911
00:45:34,679 --> 00:45:38,199
or maybe a Michael Misa, maybe that's something you do, right.

912
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:39,960
But we do have a number of different avenues to

913
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,960
improve your team, but trading is number one. And I

914
00:45:43,079 --> 00:45:45,519
just want to say with the BFFs this year, not

915
00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:47,360
to just talk about our team the whole time, but

916
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,239
we started this year in twelfth place in the tiered

917
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,320
Dynasty Lord Stanley Division, and we ended probably in third

918
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,159
or fourth. However, this weekend works out, and I think

919
00:45:57,159 --> 00:45:59,639
it's all to do with trades that we made last season,

920
00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:03,559
acquiring Niko Heisher and Mikhail Sergachev, and trades we made

921
00:46:03,559 --> 00:46:07,719
this season, acquiring Bobrovski from Victor, getting Foresling and Raquel

922
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,880
in their primes from another manager. And these were players that,

923
00:46:12,039 --> 00:46:13,920
you know, yeah, we gave up a lot. We gave

924
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:18,199
up just for posterity sake. Dawson, Mercer, Axel Sandi Pelica,

925
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,119
Cole Eiserman and Hampis Lindholm is a throw in. We

926
00:46:21,199 --> 00:46:24,079
gave up some players off our roster, some prospect players,

927
00:46:24,119 --> 00:46:26,840
and we acquired these veterans who are every night players

928
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,800
for us, and that's what catapulted us up to finishing

929
00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:33,800
probably in third or fourth. And probably we're all going

930
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,880
to stay here because these two teams ahead of us, Victor,

931
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,199
why don't you set it up for us a little

932
00:46:38,199 --> 00:46:39,639
bit here? But the two teams ahead of us are

933
00:46:39,639 --> 00:46:40,679
in a league of their own.

934
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. Since the very beginning of this league,

935
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:50,199
I think Jacks n and Mason Black have basically been

936
00:46:50,199 --> 00:46:52,480
in a league of their own. They are in a

937
00:46:52,519 --> 00:46:54,639
league with other managers, but they might as well not

938
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,800
be because their Fantasy points is so much higher than

939
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,000
everybody else's. I'm just looking at the right now, and

940
00:47:01,039 --> 00:47:03,400
you and Simon are in a pretty pretty good matchup,

941
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,559
and you have way more points than just about everybody

942
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:08,800
else at six fifteen and six thirty three. And Jack

943
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,800
Ze is losing right now to Mason at six seventy four,

944
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,679
and Mason has seven hundred and thirty points. It's not

945
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,559
even it's not even close, like he's He's one hundred

946
00:47:17,559 --> 00:47:20,440
points almost up on you, right, It's ridiculous. So, yeah,

947
00:47:20,519 --> 00:47:23,440
these two, it's been fun to watch their battle. And

948
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,440
I think you can learn a lot from looking at

949
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,239
what these really smart people do and the moves that

950
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,119
they make and the players that they go for, And

951
00:47:32,159 --> 00:47:35,360
so I think that's a really good that's a really

952
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,280
good lesson for all of us to learn. And I

953
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,760
think that's true in any league. Look at the top

954
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,880
teams in your league. What are they doing, how are

955
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,840
they successful? And I've tried to look at what Jack

956
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,960
and Mason are doing and learn as much as you

957
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,880
can from them. I think sometimes it isn't always obvious,

958
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,840
but looking at the players and it seems like they

959
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,639
either have a crystal ball or they just they know

960
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,599
that these players who it's always it's all about picking

961
00:47:59,639 --> 00:48:01,679
the player who maybe had a down season and are

962
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,719
prime for a rebound. That's I think a lot of

963
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,719
what I've seen, especially in Jack's drafting and picking, and

964
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,960
so that's a big part of it too. And then

965
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,440
having the right timeframe of your players maturing, and then

966
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,159
I think they're at the stage now where how do

967
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,199
you keep this going? And that's really about making shoot

968
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:22,920
trade trades. Getting some of my conversations, a lot of

969
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,880
the trades didn't happen with Jack, but I think he

970
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,639
was very smart in what he was trying to do,

971
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,239
which is stay at the top, and so he was

972
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,440
willing to trade like a B player for or like

973
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:38,559
a C plus player for maybe two of them for

974
00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:40,639
maybe a player that's a little bit higher. So roster

975
00:48:40,679 --> 00:48:44,119
consolidation essentially is what he was looking at. I ended

976
00:48:44,199 --> 00:48:46,880
up not pulling the trigger on those because of the

977
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,360
players that I was getting, I didn't think had too

978
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,840
much rebound potential in them. But I think that's the

979
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,400
real testament to not only what they built, but they

980
00:48:55,559 --> 00:48:58,639
what they've maintained because that's winning and getting there is

981
00:48:58,679 --> 00:49:01,480
one thing, but then keeping it going for years is

982
00:49:01,519 --> 00:49:02,280
really hard.

983
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,679
Speaker 2: And keeping it going for years is something that Jack

984
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,559
has been doing. Because those who maybe have been listening

985
00:49:08,599 --> 00:49:10,320
to us for a little while talking about the tidy

986
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,679
would know that Jack versus Mason is a rematch of

987
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,480
last year's finals, which Jack won by one hundred and

988
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,679
twenty five points last year, so anything can still happen

989
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,440
with two days left to go here, and they both

990
00:49:22,519 --> 00:49:25,920
approached this season differently. I just made a few notes

991
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,280
just looking at their rosters. Jack made a very few

992
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,400
trades this year, nothing really of note, actually, just upgrading

993
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,599
an early in his career Cole Profetti to a solid

994
00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:39,960
boone Jenner. He sold a few veterans for younger pieces

995
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,639
that feature into his minor strategy. But when you're the

996
00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:45,639
first place team, you don't really have a whole lot

997
00:49:45,679 --> 00:49:49,599
you can change. Mason, on the other hand, we've referred

998
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:53,039
to him on previous podcasts as the trade King, and

999
00:49:53,119 --> 00:49:55,800
for good reason, because he reworked his roster this year

1000
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,400
in a way that I haven't seen many managers do,

1001
00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:02,000
especially in a dynasty like this. Just a quick snapshot

1002
00:50:02,039 --> 00:50:05,599
he acquired this year in several different trades, Sam Bennett, Ridley,

1003
00:50:05,639 --> 00:50:09,960
Greg Toamash Hurdle, and Marcus Petterson, J G. Pajo, Ryan

1004
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,519
Hartman some decent depth options. Especially you look at a

1005
00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:16,000
guy like Ryan Hartman for this past matchup, who had

1006
00:50:16,039 --> 00:50:19,079
eight games or something like that over the past two weeks.

1007
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,119
Making these forward thinking moves to get players who are

1008
00:50:22,119 --> 00:50:24,199
going to help you at this time of year. He

1009
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,320
sent out pieces like Alex Colorn, who we picked up

1010
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,719
off of waivers, clearly doesn't have a whole lot of

1011
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,119
value in this league. Jackson Blake is someone he sent out.

1012
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,119
Maybe he's regretting that one, but send out Matty Benier's

1013
00:50:36,119 --> 00:50:40,199
I wouldn't be regretting that one. Samuelson, Jordan Spence, some

1014
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,559
of these guys that have some upside but are not

1015
00:50:42,599 --> 00:50:45,159
going to help him beat Jack right now, which I

1016
00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:48,400
think is goal number one for fir Mason, our trade king.

1017
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,519
So both of these teams approached it in different ways,

1018
00:50:51,559 --> 00:50:53,159
and here they are at the end, and they are

1019
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,199
still both the undisputed top two teams in this league

1020
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,199
without question, although I do think we might have a

1021
00:50:59,199 --> 00:51:01,039
bit of a challenge from Mystics next season.

1022
00:51:02,039 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't wait to see how she and all

1023
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,400
the other promoted teams play into this fold. It's going

1024
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:11,679
to be a really exciting team process and it's really

1025
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:16,000
fun to learn out from the how she's going to

1026
00:51:16,039 --> 00:51:18,000
adapt to. I think what's going to be a very

1027
00:51:18,039 --> 00:51:20,679
unique situation for her because it's all a bit different

1028
00:51:20,679 --> 00:51:22,760
when you get into Lord Stanley. It's not I think

1029
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,559
none of those other leagues are easy. I think it's

1030
00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:28,440
a little bit easier when you have a clear, clearer

1031
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,480
path and some teams that can sell off those assets

1032
00:51:30,519 --> 00:51:31,119
and rebuild.

1033
00:51:32,199 --> 00:51:35,039
Speaker 6: Yeah, and how Toddy works too. With the top six

1034
00:51:35,079 --> 00:51:39,199
teams making the championship playoffs and the two teams getting

1035
00:51:39,199 --> 00:51:42,880
a buy from the first round, those guys were in

1036
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,639
such a lead for such a long time that they

1037
00:51:46,679 --> 00:51:49,639
were able to make trades of the deadline and target

1038
00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:52,239
the two rounds that they were actually going to participate in.

1039
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,599
It's tough when you're going into a playoff matchup and

1040
00:51:55,679 --> 00:51:58,320
you got sick. We do two week playoffs. That's the

1041
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,360
whole six weeks that you have to POTENTI you have

1042
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,719
to try and plan for. You're not going to get

1043
00:52:03,639 --> 00:52:06,760
matchups exactly how you want, and potentially trading for guys

1044
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,000
that are going to play more in those six weeks,

1045
00:52:09,079 --> 00:52:10,880
you're going to maybe target your first couple of rounds

1046
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,280
at least at least I do for them. It's hey,

1047
00:52:13,559 --> 00:52:17,320
I got to concentrate for four weeks of playoff hockey.

1048
00:52:18,199 --> 00:52:21,760
Mason claubed my roster by one hundred and fifty fan

1049
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,400
points and his games played was way higher than mine,

1050
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,679
even when he was on the podcast not too long ago.

1051
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,079
That's the strategy that he employed. And when you're finishing

1052
00:52:32,159 --> 00:52:36,159
top two and you have the ability to consolidate who

1053
00:52:36,199 --> 00:52:39,880
you gotta target for those, you have one less matchup

1054
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,760
that you gotta face, and it makes.

1055
00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 7: It a lot easier.

1056
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,679
Speaker 6: And they were way clear, right, They were like two

1057
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,719
hundred points higher than the next closest person steel Cee

1058
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,000
Stars four hundred and forty points. Then the third place

1059
00:52:52,039 --> 00:52:55,280
finished Tom Tron, who's been a pretty his team's on

1060
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,079
the up and up right, so just dominant, right. These guys,

1061
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,760
they got a pretty awesome rivalry going on. So it's

1062
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,800
nice to watch and they're having a pretty sick matchup

1063
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,559
this year. It's always good to try and poke the

1064
00:53:07,639 --> 00:53:10,280
banter on the discord and see if to see if they're.

1065
00:53:10,119 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 7: Gonna give it back.

1066
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 6: Those those guys are so humble, they don't say too much.

1067
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,559
It's nice to just sit back and enjoy the show.

1068
00:53:17,639 --> 00:53:20,119
Speaker 2: So we hope that this episode has been very helpful

1069
00:53:20,159 --> 00:53:23,800
in kind of unmasking some of the intricacies about this

1070
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,639
type of format. I think I speak for all of

1071
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,000
us here, but it's definitely one of the more fun

1072
00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:32,320
leagues that I participate in on a week to week basis.

1073
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,000
It's the one I think about almost the most, certainly

1074
00:53:35,039 --> 00:53:37,159
out of my dynasty leagues, it's number one, and it's

1075
00:53:37,199 --> 00:53:40,119
just because of how unique this format is. And I

1076
00:53:40,199 --> 00:53:42,119
just had to thank you, Victor for giving us the

1077
00:53:42,159 --> 00:53:45,239
opportunity here to contribute in a meaningful way to what

1078
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,280
is a very exciting Fantasy Hockey League format and one

1079
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,239
that we hope will continue for many years to come.

1080
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,960
And listeners, if this is intriguing to you, you can

1081
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,360
reach out to any of us, Simon, Tim, myself, Victor,

1082
00:53:57,679 --> 00:53:59,679
and we're happy to answer any questions for you about

1083
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,840
the lead. But Victor, thanks for having us. It's just

1084
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,280
so fun to be a part of this team and

1085
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,360
to have a place in this league.

1086
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:11,599
Speaker 4: I just appreciate you guys. It has definitely elevated the

1087
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,400
quality of the league. It has elevated especially Tim, who

1088
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:19,159
tracks a lot of the storylines and the points and

1089
00:54:19,199 --> 00:54:21,480
gives these little recaps, and it's just it's so helpful,

1090
00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:23,840
it's so interesting, and I hope people appreciate it. And

1091
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,559
I think that's where bennisi Hoki is about having fun,

1092
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,440
and that's the whole point is to have fun. And

1093
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,440
I think it's you have a little bit more fun

1094
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,559
when you have these interesting storylines and you can understand

1095
00:54:33,599 --> 00:54:36,360
some of the nuances of what's going on behind the scenes.

1096
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,719
So that's what we're hoping to provide. And you all

1097
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,679
have helped so much with the running of the league

1098
00:54:41,679 --> 00:54:45,880
and the logistics and the dispersal, and Tim, it was

1099
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,000
a huge hope in this last year tracking all the

1100
00:54:48,039 --> 00:54:51,320
teams and just getting it all in one place, figuring

1101
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,440
out where who's left, who's still here, and who needs

1102
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,800
to be put where. It's a giant puzzle and you

1103
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:57,920
did that exceptionally well.

1104
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 2: Tim, Tim is our Heart Trophy winner. He's our MVP

1105
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,480
of this commissioning team. By far.

1106
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 5: Those are kind of words I can't It's a team, right,

1107
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,679
we do what we have to do. I will tell

1108
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,400
you there are a lot of lessons learned from last

1109
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,360
offseason that we will apply this year. Will be more organized,

1110
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,639
a little bit and a lot stronger because of it.

1111
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,400
I think, like you guys said, it's a great league.

1112
00:55:21,639 --> 00:55:24,760
To Ryan's point, it is actually my number one dynasty

1113
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,239
that I go to to check out when I'm in

1114
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,199
twenty leagues. This year, it's a great league, and we

1115
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,320
just want to do what we got to do to

1116
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,079
keep making it greater and greater.

1117
00:55:35,159 --> 00:55:37,199
Speaker 6: Yeah, Tim, to your point, we are a team, but

1118
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,440
on every team there's all stars and there's fourth liners. Okay,

1119
00:55:41,079 --> 00:55:43,599
you're the all Star. Okay, Yeah, No, it was a

1120
00:55:43,679 --> 00:55:46,280
shout out to everybody who worked really hard to get this, Tim,

1121
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,519
you did a lot of work. You did a lot

1122
00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:50,440
of work as well with the Tidy trades and then

1123
00:55:50,519 --> 00:55:54,440
doing participating in the app. There was everybody pitched in

1124
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,199
here now and then, and thanks to everybody who I

1125
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,920
was super patient throughout the season too. And I think

1126
00:56:00,119 --> 00:56:04,960
my favorite part of Fantasy Tidy is the banter in

1127
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:05,800
the chat rooms.

1128
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 7: So to everybody who has.

1129
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,559
Speaker 3: Hey, all a reminder are show is brought to you

1130
00:56:11,559 --> 00:56:14,559
by Fantracks Dot com place. You can play all your

1131
00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:16,440
fantasy leagues. You can move the leagues over there, you

1132
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,360
can start new leagues, ten different sports to play. I know,

1133
00:56:19,639 --> 00:56:21,800
I am Itchy on the trigger finger, just a couple

1134
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,119
weeks away from being able to roll over those fantasy

1135
00:56:24,119 --> 00:56:26,800
hockey seasons to next year. I believe there will be

1136
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,679
playoff pools on there, there have been in the past,

1137
00:56:30,119 --> 00:56:33,800
and the most options for dynasty scoring, salaries, contracts. You

1138
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,639
can make your rookie eligibility five games. You can make

1139
00:56:36,639 --> 00:56:38,840
it nine games. You could make it five hundred games.

1140
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,679
I don't care. You could set all that up, customize

1141
00:56:41,679 --> 00:56:44,639
to your preference. You really bother you that somebody doesn't

1142
00:56:44,639 --> 00:56:47,000
have a certain position eligibility. You can get in there

1143
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,039
and your commissioner can override that. There's just all kinds

1144
00:56:50,039 --> 00:56:52,639
of things you can do. Fantracks HQ's got a lot

1145
00:56:52,639 --> 00:56:54,840
of fantasy content. You see it right there in the

1146
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,360
website articles on fantasy hockey and the other fantasy sports.

1147
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:02,000
As you heard on this episode, Crafts, Ryan, Simo, and

1148
00:57:02,039 --> 00:57:05,039
Tim are all part of the commission team with the

1149
00:57:05,079 --> 00:57:09,800
growing Tidy leagues. Tony is our lead scout. Brandon is

1150
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,000
a website guru and a scout and helping with the

1151
00:57:12,039 --> 00:57:15,599
prospect for ranks and visualizations and if you've got skills

1152
00:57:15,639 --> 00:57:17,559
you'd like to lend the show. Hit Victor up in

1153
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:22,960
the discord, email or on social media. Dabber Hockey plays

1154
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,960
a big part for us. We give a big thanks

1155
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,679
to them. Victor does some writing and Victor. There's also

1156
00:57:28,679 --> 00:57:32,639
Elead Prospects where Victor's articles have appeared, and I do

1157
00:57:32,679 --> 00:57:34,960
a solo show called Dynasty Sports Life. I talk for

1158
00:57:35,079 --> 00:57:39,880
different dynasty sports. Baseball, football and basketball. Hockey also gets

1159
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,480
in the mix because sometimes I talk about multiple sports together,

1160
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,880
because there's a lot about Dynasty that applies to all

1161
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,760
the sports once you learn it for one of them,

1162
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,320
and we can learn a lot from each other. You

1163
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,400
can follow Victor and myself on social media on Blue Sky,

1164
00:57:54,519 --> 00:57:58,360
Jesse Severe or the One Victor where one is a numerule,

1165
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,679
or follow us on x vic Nuno twelve. I think

1166
00:58:01,679 --> 00:58:05,480
we're with all the numerals that guy or fan Hockey Life.

1167
00:58:05,599 --> 00:58:07,880
All one word is how you can see when new

1168
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:12,719
episodes come out, rate, review, subscribe, Apple Pods, Spotify, wherever

1169
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,400
else you coult your pods. Thanks for listening the season

1170
00:58:16,719 --> 00:58:20,360
is over or almost over for your fantasy hockey teams,

1171
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,519
but we encourage you to keep living that fantasy hockey.

1172
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 6: Life, a little bit of banter in that chat room

1173
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,639
and participates and talks to the end of managers and

1174
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,880
smacks talks just for the fun of it, and honestly,

1175
00:58:35,079 --> 00:58:38,079
just that's the whole. To me, that's the funnest part.

1176
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,960
A guy like Tom shown who has just as much

1177
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:45,280
smack talk for more. If smack talk was fan points,

1178
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,400
he would be right up there, if not higher than Mason.

1179
00:58:48,559 --> 00:58:51,400
If the guys that can contribute in that manner, guys

1180
00:58:51,519 --> 00:58:53,559
like Marcus and guys in the list room. I think

1181
00:58:53,559 --> 00:58:55,000
that's why the listener to me was one of the

1182
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,679
most entertaining. The banter in there was awesome, and it's

1183
00:58:57,719 --> 00:58:59,760
all in good fun, right, So it's everybody having a

1184
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,639
good time, and I can never get enough of that.

1185
00:59:03,719 --> 00:59:05,639
Speaker 4: For sure, everyone did. It's such a great job and

1186
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we really appreciate it. Couldn't do it without you. And

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if you found any of this interesting or compelling or exciting,

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then I definitely would encourage you to reach out. Remember

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you have to be a patron to be in this league.

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It's one of the I think one of the main

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perks being a fantasy hockey life Patren, because it's a

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really fun and interesting, cool league that you can learn

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a lot from and apply to your other leagues and

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just have a lot of fun with. So that's the

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goal with that, and just to tease what's coming up

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in the future, we do hope to have a bunch

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of these people who actually won their divisions and we're

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successful to come on and have a discussion about that,

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so you'll hear from them and how they did it,

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what worked. So that's coming up. But until then we

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will say thanks so much for everyone for joining, and

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we will talk to you again next time.

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Speaker 3: Before we get out of here today, remember our show's

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prought to you by fan Tracks. How could you forget

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We have all the different sports you can play over

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there at fan Tracks, Fantasy Hockey Premiere among them. But hey,

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if you want to start drafting football, go ahead. NFL

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Draft coming up. You can draft your rookie draft on

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there special just the rookies and then worry about the

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pros later. Whatever you want to do, folks. All the

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settings are there to customize. Is it ever really bothered

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you that some player in Fantasy Hockey doesn't have the

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right positional eligibility. You can override that if you want,

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try doing that on some of the other platforms. And

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there is all kinds of fantasy content over there as well.

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We thank Dabber Hockey for promoting this show, for sponsoring.

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Victor does some writing over there. There's some prospect coverage

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going on over there. You definitely want to check that

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out as an accompaniment to the type of stuff we

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do here. And I have a second show, it's called

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Dynasty Sports Life. I talk all kinds of dynasty sports.

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This week, we're going to talk about some college baseball players.

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That's a little bit of a curve, but never too

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early to start thinking about next year's baseball rookie drafts

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as far as I'm concerned. And then in top of

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all those things, we thank our crew here at Fantasy

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Hockey Life. You heard the commission team today talking about

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the tidy. We thank Tony who's organizing scouting reports. It's

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a thankless task and Tony's doing it for us. And

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we thank Brandon who helps with prospect ranks and visualization.

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So much stuff going on back there. If you want

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to help out the show. Victor would love to hear

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from you. We're always looking to do new cool things.

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Hit him up in the discord or an email, and

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in addition to all these things, we just want to

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remind you you can rate, review, subscribe to this show,

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follow us on social media, fan Hockey Life and Victor

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Nuno twelve over on x and on Blue skyde Jesse

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Severel one word, the one Victor, with the one being

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a numeral. Victor is all about the numerals. Thank you

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for listening, everybody. Once again, the regular season is coming

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to a close, but you know it never comes to

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a close. Your fantasy hockey

