Speaker 1: Us when we're younger. We all just the guy plays
Speaker 1: for your team needs to be sweet. You know, we
Speaker 1: had that conversation with Friday awesome day. Dude, I thought
Speaker 1: he was Kevin Durant two point zero.
Speaker 2: Yeah, been there before for the show.
Speaker 1: Sorry, we talking about Gordon Gordon's affinity for Andre Drummond.
Speaker 1: What turns out just likes Harry Shoulders. Yeah, shout out,
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Speaker 2: Nicholas, What are you doing back in the building.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 4: It was a long time away, but honestly, fellas I
Speaker 4: came back, we did it. We got an m v P,
Speaker 4: we got a future, we got a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Ship was uh that's well, yeah, yeah it was it was. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we got Will Ferrell. We'll bring you the interview later. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that guy was awesome and hopefully we can play it
Speaker 4: later if we have some time. Obviously packed show. I'm
Speaker 4: so happy to be back, and I'm happy the baseball
Speaker 4: team that I am fortunate enough to cover isn't completely dead.
Speaker 4: This team was extremely hot six straight nine of ten
Speaker 4: got to talk to a lot of people, Jake Rogers,
Speaker 4: Bryce Harper, Chad Smith, Johnny Caine.
Speaker 3: Uh, it was.
Speaker 4: It was the first round pick of the Detroit Tigers.
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Speaker 2: So it was.
Speaker 4: It was a really productive, good time off. I'm happy
Speaker 4: to be back in the studio with the boys. I
Speaker 4: had a nightmare that I blew up in the press
Speaker 4: box about the team, like going off, like cussing them out,
Speaker 4: like cussing them out.
Speaker 3: About the team.
Speaker 4: That's how you knew I was in a little too
Speaker 4: deep being there like every single day, early every like
Speaker 4: spending too much time there. I literally had a nightmare
Speaker 4: where I blew up, got kicked out of the press box,
Speaker 4: had to wake up and go in the next morning.
Speaker 1: Have you had a cheer moment during the streak streak
Speaker 1: in the press box?
Speaker 3: A couple like little like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pumps, pumps, Okay, a couple of pumps, No, no bumps,
Speaker 1: but a couple of pumps pumping it in the box,
Speaker 1: you know, letting it go.
Speaker 2: You finally escaped Frado and in the good Yeah, that
Speaker 2: was one of the allegations while you're gone, that you
Speaker 2: were kidnapped.
Speaker 3: T ain't got the speed.
Speaker 1: Might might not be able to any piece of news
Speaker 1: that happened in your absence that you wish you were
Speaker 1: here for to voice your opinion.
Speaker 4: Honestly, it's been such a whirlwind trying to honestly do
Speaker 4: the interviews, get them out. I really I've been I've
Speaker 4: been out of touch for the most part. If you
Speaker 4: have a question, I'll give you my response. But right
Speaker 4: now it's been baseball, baseball, baseball, trying to get the
Speaker 4: network and Woodward Baseball, you know, truly to stand out
Speaker 4: compared to every other network and obviously place to go
Speaker 4: for baseball content, and I feel like I'm doing a
Speaker 4: good job of doing that for Woodards.
Speaker 2: What were your thoughts about Paul Millsap coming out as
Speaker 2: openly transsexual.
Speaker 1: There's no way, all right, be a scary one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, I know you guys are crushing it.
Speaker 3: Shout out to the chat. I'm happy to be back.
Speaker 2: Sorry for the straight Paul, he was just the first
Speaker 2: name I thought of. That was a great, very obscure time.
Speaker 1: Paul sweet Yeah, how do you feel about swiping cards
Speaker 1: and stacking chips? Saw you sinking chips? Left me standing
Speaker 1: in the rain? Now I bought a heavy change.
Speaker 3: It's this song shout out easy.
Speaker 2: I never heard that song before. KTOK talks he's not
Speaker 2: half to half yeah it shipping out Yeah, I got.
Speaker 2: I was sitting down the third baseline on Sunday, shout out,
Speaker 2: great beautiful day, awful game for the Tigers, but I
Speaker 2: had fun, got some dipping dots, had a see my
Speaker 2: first ballpark Glizzie of the Year, so that was much needed.
Speaker 3: I'll dress it, uh.
Speaker 2: Just mustard only. I'm a mustard only guy. I'm with
Speaker 2: you on the hot dogs. Maybe some chopped onions. You know.
Speaker 2: I'm not no ketchup. Never when I was twelve. I'll
Speaker 2: throw the fresh mustard go together if there, if there's
Speaker 2: chopped onions, if there's jalapenos, stuff like that, I'll put
Speaker 2: that on there. But no, if it's coming out of bottle,
Speaker 2: mustard only.
Speaker 4: I've been rocking the mustard onion Relish Elite, Holy.
Speaker 2: Trinity, Trinity.
Speaker 3: That's been that's been good.
Speaker 2: I'm not wrong with that at all. I stood in
Speaker 2: line for like ten minutes for the dipping dots, pretty
Speaker 2: long line, and she's she like started yelling that she
Speaker 2: only had certain ones. I was about the fire on her,
Speaker 2: but there was there was chocolate chip cookie headline.
Speaker 1: Woodward Sports hosts tax vendor just but because I was
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Speaker 2: I had a craving for uh cookies and cream Dippin' dots,
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Speaker 1: They have actual ice cream? They gotta have actual ice cream?
Speaker 2: There too, the line for the actual ice cream in
Speaker 2: the little food court area.
Speaker 1: Well then I understand that that's what discouraged the Priority
Speaker 1: Kid's Day too.
Speaker 2: First of all, the little girl who sang the national
Speaker 2: anthem insane, Like I have never heard a more powerful
Speaker 2: voice inside a smaller person in my life. She was
Speaker 2: belting it sounded like a full grown woman. It was crazy.
Speaker 2: That's that's dope. What was her name? Nick? You remember?
Speaker 6: I remember?
Speaker 4: I do not know, but I stand by wat Spencer
Speaker 4: said that actual was incredible and I would sign her
Speaker 4: to a deal today if I was on America's Got to.
Speaker 2: You Want Something funny?
Speaker 1: Uh In COVID, I had opened up an LLC and
Speaker 1: I didn't know like what I was gonna do. I
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna go back to like regular work. I wanted
Speaker 1: to like do something like I enjoyed my original idea.
Speaker 1: I wasn't like because I used to music, so like
Speaker 1: I had my phone number on on Google, you look
Speaker 1: at my business whatever, and people call me and people i'd.
Speaker 2: Make them sing and share the phone. Do you have
Speaker 2: any of them? No? I wish I should. I feel
Speaker 2: like a ho because like there was one. I couldn't
Speaker 2: help but laugh at the end. And yeah, she probably
Speaker 2: cried last. Yeah, they called me. I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: what are you like? What do you know? What? Can
Speaker 2: you sing? A little? Something? You had? The og could
Speaker 2: have been records? I had those. You could have been records.
Speaker 6: True.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's actually an easy variant. He is.
Speaker 1: He is an easy variant. I met him in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: Shout out, shout out, Juski Connor McGregor. Fight happened. Maybe no,
Speaker 1: it didn't happen. I don't know what to what to
Speaker 1: call that. I don't know how to transition to that.
Speaker 1: That was just depressing, to be honest with you.
Speaker 2: It's, first of all, Connor, what are you doing? Your
Speaker 2: dumb old bitch like you're forty years old? Why are
Speaker 2: you trying to do a jumping roundhouse kid, like that's
Speaker 2: gonna land on Max Holloway Like, fuck you man, you
Speaker 2: just wasted so much time, so much money. I don't
Speaker 2: ever go in the octagon again like that. That is
Speaker 2: fucking stupid. Man, he is cooked. Like that is the
Speaker 2: definition of hang that ship up, bunk, like it is
Speaker 2: not your year out, You're gone.
Speaker 7: Do you guys get those I started to get them
Speaker 7: within the last like a month or so. It's like
Speaker 7: when you're thirty and you're trying to do this and
Speaker 7: you think you're twenty and it's like jump off of like.
Speaker 1: A yeah, yeah for sure, Yeah, there's yeh that that's
Speaker 1: exactly what happened. Well, it's so funny because, like Friday,
Speaker 1: I was talking with Riley and I remember I think
Speaker 1: Skywalker too. We're talking about how he used to do
Speaker 1: the karate shit. Yeah, like his last couple of fights,
Speaker 1: he was trying to boxing something. That's why didn't like
Speaker 1: pan out for him.
Speaker 2: He tried doing the karate shit and it just was
Speaker 2: maybe not that karate shit. Yeah, like the like what
Speaker 2: are you trying to land a tornado kick in the
Speaker 2: first twenty seconds? Well it was.
Speaker 1: It was weird because so by I have a theory
Speaker 1: that he was hurt prior to the even like entering
Speaker 1: the fight, And there's a video actually just came out
Speaker 1: in a tweet that came out to the over in
Speaker 1: a minute. But like the other part was when you kick,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to turn your foot to like fucking what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like swing it through?
Speaker 2: He like did that in the air, Like you don't
Speaker 2: trying to do an I think I just I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Kudos the Max not beating the fuck out of him.
Speaker 1: I mean he could have, but Max was like, this
Speaker 1: guy is fucking hurt. Rath like, what do you want
Speaker 1: to do? Embarrassing?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Max, Peris it is embarrassing, like you just got pitied.
Speaker 1: And then Max after the fights like run it back.
Speaker 1: Let's get this money in the crowd for the people
Speaker 1: who paid did not see the fucking fight. I mean,
Speaker 1: that was that was nuts. But I'm gonna send Chris
Speaker 1: a video here and slack.
Speaker 2: Max said he had him weak in the knees.
Speaker 1: Also during the walkout, I caught this. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you guys remember it. At night, I don't know.
Speaker 1: We're not allowed to play because the paramount paid for you.
Speaker 1: But yeah, when he was taking off the shorts, you
Speaker 1: see him like hopping on the right leg. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like he didn't want to be
Speaker 1: on the other one. And then there's this video abouna
Speaker 1: send Chris here of him walking into a pain management clinic.
Speaker 2: You would be the judge if he's limpy or not
Speaker 2: before or like before three days before, three days before
Speaker 2: the fight, three days prior.
Speaker 1: And then this tweet from a guy that I met,
Speaker 1: he used to work for ESBN covered like a lot
Speaker 1: of combat sports. He tweeted, I have to find this too,
Speaker 1: that that was the rumor that Connor was injured going in.
Speaker 1: Dana told him, just you can't fucking do it. It's
Speaker 1: the week of I mean, a lot of guys do
Speaker 1: fight hurt though, and it's not uncommon for what happened.
Speaker 1: It's different than like, I mean, maybe he tore the
Speaker 1: like maybe he was hurt and then he tore the
Speaker 1: a C on.
Speaker 2: The type of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sounder on this, just do no sound to be
Speaker 1: safe because I didn't play with sound, so I don't
Speaker 1: even know if it plays half. It's too crazier in person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so here's kind of walking into some type of pain
Speaker 1: man's clay. They say, is he limping there? You think
Speaker 1: he's walking normal, just a little bit slow.
Speaker 2: No, I think he's back.
Speaker 3: I saw your half facing all day. Let's run it back.
Speaker 3: Get a zoom in there.
Speaker 1: So I think he's walking like, uh, like you just
Speaker 1: worked out type face. You're like had a hard workout.
Speaker 4: You're just walking like seemed like a shorter step with
Speaker 4: that left it did his favorite.
Speaker 2: Oh I see him come out? Oh good, Yeah, him
Speaker 2: come out real quick. Yeah, it looked like he was
Speaker 2: struggling a little bit. Oh, he is walking weird there
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's just it's sad, to be honest,
Speaker 1: it's just fucking sad. We robbed him a good I
Speaker 1: don't like. And I thought Max is gonna win for sure.
Speaker 1: I thought Max would take him deep waters, drown him out.
Speaker 1: We all had the same opinion. But I do feel
Speaker 1: like in the first two rounds there was a chance
Speaker 1: that Connor maybe could have got him, and I think
Speaker 1: we were just robbed of that.
Speaker 2: I was just like, I was excited to see him
Speaker 2: fight again. Yeah, and he's.
Speaker 1: A goat man, he's a goat, like it's just his
Speaker 1: run the ship that he did in the insane insane
Speaker 1: run and then you know.
Speaker 2: To be the entertainer that he is, like yeah, bringing
Speaker 2: all the hoopla to the UFC, and he did it
Speaker 2: again and then he.
Speaker 7: He got people to buy in again. I remember you
Speaker 7: guys were like, hey, he's you know, he's not. He's
Speaker 7: not fucking bitches anymore. Like he's yeah, you sell everybody.
Speaker 1: Was a picture of him in the corner after he's like, man,
Speaker 1: magic quit do him blowing fucking bitches.
Speaker 2: Just to get hurt in three seconds? Honestly, that's brutal.
Speaker 1: I mean made bread though, Yeah, Max made bread too,
Speaker 1: because you will see you get double your your earnings
Speaker 1: when you win the fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Max is fucking he's just paid his life.
Speaker 2: That's running back. Yeah yeah, he said running back. I'm
Speaker 2: sure yeah, ready for a round three.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, just just uh unfortunate. I do
Speaker 1: want to say though, during his run, like we were
Speaker 1: blessed we got them. I feel blessed getting to witness
Speaker 1: him in his prime. That was fucking sick. It was
Speaker 1: like we've seen guys going runs with winning fights and
Speaker 1: like winning titles when he was knocking motherfuckers stage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I even Chad Mindez, I.
Speaker 1: Remember being in that moment, like, oh, his first wrestler,
Speaker 1: Like this is it like Connor, you know all the
Speaker 1: streaks up. Nope, Nope, Connor knocked him out too, and
Speaker 1: he almost he's losing that fight at certain points too.
Speaker 1: I just I feel blessed to have watched the streak,
Speaker 1: watch him become a double champ talk even the moment
Speaker 1: of mic I like, take this moment, apologize to absolutely
Speaker 1: no one, don't ship doesn't funk. You want like he's
Speaker 1: just a legend, man, it's whatever. He's over those he's cooked.
Speaker 1: It's a one to two year recovery. He's already thirty seven.
Speaker 2: Have fun fighting Jake Paul again, Bud, Yeah, I just right, No, No,
Speaker 2: I for the first time, buddy.
Speaker 1: I just I don't want me to do it. I
Speaker 1: don't want to see him go out like that.
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, I mean, he doesn't need
Speaker 3: to is the thing.
Speaker 2: Like for us, you didn't need to use either, But
Speaker 2: that ship's out there.
Speaker 3: I like the Roadhouse.
Speaker 4: This makes me, This makes me not like the Roadhouse
Speaker 4: as much because he completely played everybody in my eyes,
Speaker 4: I walked into a bar to see it because they
Speaker 4: wanted to watch it.
Speaker 6: Ga ba.
Speaker 3: It was a straight car ord.
Speaker 4: Shout up no, and it was over already. I was like,
Speaker 4: what the hell happened? I had to see the had
Speaker 4: to see the highlight. I'm like, what in the hell.
Speaker 4: And I just feel like he completely played everybody. This
Speaker 4: was obviously a money grab and it worked once again. Fighting, UFC, boxing,
Speaker 4: whatever it may be, This happens more than any other
Speaker 4: sport in my opinion, and it's a shame to the
Speaker 4: people obviously watching, paying money to see it, betting on it,
Speaker 4: Like that's what that's who it takes away from, and
Speaker 4: that sucks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he's kind of like like I feel like
Speaker 2: this one would have appeased everyone, because like Connor is
Speaker 2: a piece of shit, Like there's no denying that. So
Speaker 2: to see him get his ass beat by Max Holloway,
Speaker 2: which he probably would have, that would have made a
Speaker 2: lot of people happy. And like for actual fight fans,
Speaker 2: to see Connor back in the ring, just you know,
Speaker 2: for the last time, probably would have made people happy.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of anti climactic both ways. It does
Speaker 2: suck that, like the last two memories of him and
Speaker 2: Octagon are being a crippled mess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does suck, but again we got he gave
Speaker 1: us so much, so it's like some give and take
Speaker 1: with it, I guess. But that the one guy you
Speaker 1: want to shout up before we move on from the
Speaker 1: UFC stuff is Patty to Baddie return from his loss
Speaker 1: to Justin Gaetgee and.
Speaker 2: Like, what was that minute? In a minute we three
Speaker 2: tapped out? Yeah, st deny, Yeah, that was breaking.
Speaker 1: He's fucking waking up and Patty's fucking oh yeah, he.
Speaker 2: Was out cold, yeah on the mat. Yeah, that was
Speaker 2: That was a pretty nasty shoke for sure. That was dirty, man.
Speaker 1: And I've seen I've seen those dars. I've seen obviously, dars,
Speaker 1: you've seen a ton of time. I've never seen one
Speaker 1: finish with their legs on the other guy's. She had
Speaker 1: to be the fucking that was tight, you can tell you.
Speaker 1: It looked like he went the tap.
Speaker 2: When he rolled them over, but it was they went
Speaker 2: out too late. Yeah, too little, too late, buddy.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine Bobby Knuckles too Yeah, Bobby Bobby Knuckles.
Speaker 1: He didn't get the w he that was getting kind
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Speaker 2: That's crazy. Really, he's pretty old. He's still good though.
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Speaker 1: As of right now, it's looking like the Lion's rankings
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Speaker 1: it has been some of them coming out piece by piece,
Speaker 1: and over the weekend we got the good stuff. We
Speaker 1: got a lot of great stuff. I kind of start
Speaker 1: with Mike Clay.
Speaker 2: You're gonna lose that arm. I'll fucking take it from
Speaker 2: you myself. Bike do. I have a whole lot empty
Speaker 2: teas on ESPN and I'm done with you. He's son
Speaker 2: of a.
Speaker 1: Bitch, fucking clown show man. Mike Lay's an ESPN analyst,
Speaker 1: NFL analysts. I should say, I think he does more
Speaker 1: fantasy football than actual football. Obviously, he's one of those
Speaker 1: advanced analytic nerds. As you can see, it was kind
Speaker 1: of going and he did his own offensive line rankings
Speaker 1: in the NFL last week where he plays penn a
Speaker 1: suol back to back first team All Pro tackle as
Speaker 1: the tenth best tackle in a National football league and
Speaker 1: the seventeenth best offensive lineman in a National football league.
Speaker 1: And then when he was called out on it questioned
Speaker 1: about it, he was attacking Lions fans, calling him casuals,
Speaker 1: don't watch film fanboys all.
Speaker 2: Like this disrespectful shit.
Speaker 5: But the.
Speaker 2: Okay, I just I just penna fucking souls.
Speaker 1: What we're talking about ridiculous by itself, it's all back
Speaker 1: by Vance analytics. His argument was a past block win rate.
Speaker 1: ESPN's made up stat, by the way, was right thirty
Speaker 1: six For NFL executives, scouts, and coaches to rank Pinna School.
Speaker 2: The number one offensive lineman in the league. I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure those guys know ball.
Speaker 1: NFL coaches, scouts, executives, they watched film.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they watched film.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's their their fucking job, and they
Speaker 1: ranked them the number one guy. Just after this douchebag
Speaker 1: Mike Clay, try to call you Detroit Lions fans or
Speaker 1: anybody that just knows football, try to call him out
Speaker 1: for ranking Pinney School the seventeenth best offensive lineman.
Speaker 2: In the league. Yeah, let alone.
Speaker 1: The tenth best offensive tackling the league. That was just
Speaker 1: that was That's gorgeous that the very next day it happened.
Speaker 2: By the way, too, there is a reason why PFF
Speaker 2: went under. Yeah, there is a reason why PFF had
Speaker 2: to fire all their talented employees and just went it
Speaker 2: into the nonsense because it's for Gezy, it's Forigazi, it's
Speaker 2: Pixie does. It doesn't exist like that shit isn't real.
Speaker 2: Go watch football, Go talk to people who watch football.
Speaker 2: Go talk to people who play football, or coach football
Speaker 2: or scout football, and they will tell you undeniably, Penna
Speaker 2: Sool is at the very least a top three offensive
Speaker 2: lineman in the NFL. So for this fucking slut Mike
Speaker 2: Clay to have him at seventeen, Like, I understand, the
Speaker 2: Lions had a down year last year. So if you
Speaker 2: just go out and say you forgot Penna Sool or
Speaker 2: you didn't watch any Lions football, that's one thing. But
Speaker 2: to double down and attack Lions fans for rightfully so
Speaker 2: propping up probably the best young player in the National
Speaker 2: Football League, this guy is a turd and you should
Speaker 2: be de armed like you lose one for that, buddy.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm taking that arm. You're gonna lose that arm.
Speaker 1: You soun up a bitch fucking crazy.
Speaker 2: I just thought it was, uh, what's the word I'm
Speaker 2: looking for? Poetic?
Speaker 1: No arm to stand on poetic from the say, anybody
Speaker 1: that had Penny School above ten is the best office.
Speaker 1: The tackle National Football League didn't no ball just for
Speaker 1: NFL executives, coaches, and scouts to rank him the number
Speaker 1: one off at tackle. The National footb League would have
Speaker 1: fucking nerd Advanced INLIS has to place baseballs and baseball whatever.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 1: I think some of them are interesting. I think I
Speaker 1: like the ones that provide context. One of my favorite
Speaker 1: ones is like time to pressure. The perfect example is
Speaker 1: who's the dadge we had last year? Alkoudy Mohammad had
Speaker 1: ten sacks last year. It'd be easy to look at
Speaker 1: the ten sacks, but holy shit, this guy's an lead
Speaker 1: edge rusher, and then look at the time of pressure.
Speaker 2: Like, okay, took him a little minute to get there.
Speaker 1: He's a been officiary of you know, some guys getting
Speaker 1: chased into his arms like I get him there. But
Speaker 1: it should never be black and white with advanced in elics,
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to sport like football. There's so
Speaker 1: much shit dependent on what happens.
Speaker 2: It's it's the ultimate team sport.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I hate these nerds that have these
Speaker 1: advanced in atltics, like it has to be this because
Speaker 1: this fucking computer says so the news flashes they're fucking humans.
Speaker 2: These are computers.
Speaker 1: I just I fucking hate it. IY win probabilities, Like like,
Speaker 1: if your system was correct, you win, probably system it
Speaker 1: wouldn't fucking changed. Yeah, it was standing straight jet three
Speaker 1: to who won the fucking game, But it changes because
Speaker 1: it's wrong. I can't stand Advanced League sometimes, I really can't.
Speaker 4: If you were starting a franchise not drafting quarterbacks, Pinay
Speaker 4: Suel is probably going top three, tops, top ten, Yeah,
Speaker 4: like without a question, Like it's either get to the
Speaker 4: quarterback or you know, defend the guys getting to the quarterback.
Speaker 4: Pina school is elite at that first off. Second of all,
Speaker 4: you want to say top twenty, You're not talking top
Speaker 4: twenty tackles. You're talking top twenty players in the NFL minimum.
Speaker 4: Like that is the most insane take. I think he
Speaker 4: knew that this would stir the pot with Lions fans.
Speaker 4: Mike Clay did his job because there is no point
Speaker 4: in watching panae Sewel play throughout his career, even if
Speaker 4: he took a little step back last year because of
Speaker 4: like battling through injuries and whatnot, compared to his unbelievable
Speaker 4: didn't mess up one season prior to that even if
Speaker 4: you want to say that you can't put him, you know,
Speaker 4: even below three in my mind four tackles. So it
Speaker 4: just blows my mind. This is a terrible take from
Speaker 4: Mike Clave throat throat and to.
Speaker 2: Shout out to percules in the by the way he
Speaker 2: says coming from an Ampia team, myself, fuck that guy.
Speaker 2: You should get his arm like you. You should should
Speaker 2: transport from him to you because.
Speaker 1: The imagine we have his arms hanging up on a
Speaker 1: trophy woll yeah, like on our mantle while we're drinking
Speaker 1: out of our back to back first team All Pro
Speaker 1: Penny seol chalices like, fuck you, Mike Clay.
Speaker 2: You shouldn't talk about football like there there are wiggle
Speaker 2: room there. There there is some wiggle room. There is
Speaker 2: some gray area when you talk about the best offensive
Speaker 2: lineman or the best tackle in the league. I could
Speaker 2: understand if you prefer a Tristan Wurfs or if you
Speaker 2: like Jordan Mulatto, or you're talking about one of those guys.
Speaker 2: And Penny Jewels is number two or or even number
Speaker 2: three in some cases, but they have them at sixteen.
Speaker 2: Is the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Seventeen seventeen even worse,
Speaker 2: it's the dumbest shit I ever heard. There is no
Speaker 2: factual answer, There is no rational conversation you can have
Speaker 2: to say, penn Seool is the seventeenth three. You are
Speaker 2: just flat out wrong.
Speaker 1: And I would have some forgiveness if it were like
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five rankings, like based on last seak, because
Speaker 1: like they said, it was a little bit of a
Speaker 1: down year for Penny. This is a twenty twenty six projection, Like,
Speaker 1: what are we doing?
Speaker 2: Man? What the fuck are we doing?
Speaker 1: Penney Sool is one of the only offensive lineman out
Speaker 1: there that's a legit highlight tape.
Speaker 2: We just watch.
Speaker 1: Them mowing down human beings, not just like human beings
Speaker 1: like me spinning anybody in this fucking room. Professional athletes,
Speaker 1: NFL players like the freaks amongst freaks. There's a certain
Speaker 1: play where a Texas player runs out of the way
Speaker 1: and enters his own teammate because he didn't want to
Speaker 1: hit in the path of Penny Sool. It's it's just
Speaker 1: that he's just that type of guy. You're You're ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Michaelay should be banned for talking offensive line, if anything,
Speaker 1: just football in general.
Speaker 2: But shout to side this with super Chatz.
Speaker 1: Mike Clay is an Eagles fan, of course. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: that that that adds up a little bit.
Speaker 2: He says.
Speaker 1: Of course, google claim, google claim. He is not a
Speaker 1: fan of a team, but he grew up in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: In his first two jobs was as an Eagles writer.
Speaker 2: Mm okay, now we get it. You're trash. Now I'm
Speaker 2: just kidding, but I mean no, it makes sense. It
Speaker 2: makes sense. You know, you're holding on to the dying
Speaker 2: Lane Johnson, who's not even a top ten tackle anymore.
Speaker 2: But you know whatever, Percoles says, I'll take his leg.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm missing. Well you can have his arm too,
Speaker 2: Percules two for one special.
Speaker 4: Speaking of that easy, do you have the list by
Speaker 4: chance of tackles, because that'd be interesting see where he
Speaker 4: ranked and he said pane sewel seventeenth, but where he
Speaker 4: puts specifically these Eagles tackles and where they ranked over them.
Speaker 4: So we can get to the bottom of this shout
Speaker 4: out to side list. Do a little uh invested gate
Speaker 4: of work here, because if that is true that both
Speaker 4: of these sackles are ahead of them, that is just
Speaker 4: big model complete zero credibility moving forward. For Mike Clay
Speaker 4: on this model, which I already have zero credibility, I
Speaker 4: have put zero stock in him.
Speaker 2: On this model.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: Today school is ranked below both Jordan Milatta and Lane Johnson. Sorry,
Speaker 1: he has has an overall grade with past block win
Speaker 1: rate some pff ri whatever, It's all a whole fucking
Speaker 1: hodgepodge of bullshit. Today Schools seven point seven is the
Speaker 1: final grade for him. Jordan Malata was seven point nine,
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson eight point one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Clay Aiken Clay face Mike Clay. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: The NFL Scouts, coaches, and GMS ranked him the number
Speaker 2: one offensive lineman in the NFL. So Mike Clay, go
Speaker 2: play with your dolls or something, Buddy, I don't know, Like,
Speaker 2: fuck you. That just pisses me off cause it's like,
Speaker 2: you're supposed to go fuck You're supposed to be a
Speaker 2: football guy, right, That's that's your title, Notymore, that's your name,
Speaker 2: that's it's that's your whole thing. You're not. This proves
Speaker 2: you're not. Like it's just idiotic. Again, there are gray
Speaker 2: areas if you want to have him somewhere in the
Speaker 2: top three Okay, I could stomach it. Seventeen is just wrong.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's where that's where I get upset because I've
Speaker 7: seen I've seen it over the weekend with you know,
Speaker 7: with a parallel going on in like rep and rap
Speaker 7: media of a conversation where sometimes there's a difference between
Speaker 7: like get like just not knowing and speaking bs and
Speaker 7: now shout out to sidelists with his super chat like
Speaker 7: that makes me think, like that's actually that's actually propaganda.
Speaker 7: That's actually that's actually intentional. Because it's one thing if
Speaker 7: you're just speaking on a subject and like you said,
Speaker 7: you just don't know about Penny like for whatever reason,
Speaker 7: you know, and there are people that are just more
Speaker 7: in trench and you're gonna lose that debate to the
Speaker 7: person that's more in trench.
Speaker 2: But to know, to.
Speaker 7: Cover the to cover the egos, to be this league
Speaker 7: for several jobs, now, I I think that that's now
Speaker 7: cross the line into into like like it like propaganda.
Speaker 2: Basically that's ridiculous. It's absolutely intentional, and he should be
Speaker 2: he should be flogged for this. Man beat Morris with
Speaker 2: the super chat. He says, this is why Jock's like
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning tea bag. These fucking nerds. I mean, listen, like,
Speaker 2: nerds have their place in sports. If you like sports
Speaker 2: and you're a nerd, that's I'm a nerd. I like sports,
Speaker 2: But like, don't be a loser. That's what who farted says?
Speaker 2: More like Mike Gay, am I right?
Speaker 6: Nice?
Speaker 2: Nay, yeah, Mike Clay, it's an it's an obvious like
Speaker 2: it's him trying to do something like you're trying to
Speaker 2: be that guy, but you're not. You just deserve to
Speaker 2: have an arm taken away.
Speaker 1: It's vance analytics like it's just again they have they
Speaker 1: have a place, but it's gotta like you can't make
Speaker 1: it black and white. You can't say like this is
Speaker 1: this because of these numbers. Told me you gotta let
Speaker 1: your eyes into talking. Sometimes you have some fucking common
Speaker 1: sense sometimes, yeah, talk with your ears.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Again, if you want to say twenty twenty five, I
Speaker 1: will say Penny took a step back to twent twenty five,
Speaker 1: and it's due to injury. He missed like the ending
Speaker 1: of the season, got surgery. Nowice move the left tackle.
Speaker 1: You're projecting him to be the seventeenth best. It's just
Speaker 1: fucking like dude, I don't know we're done with it.
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Speaker 1: We're continuing down the rankings. The list killers are back, baby.
Speaker 1: This time Full Asleep includes our guy, your guy, Jared Goff.
Speaker 2: It's my quarterback.
Speaker 1: According to NFL execs, coaches, and scouts, Jared Goff ranks
Speaker 1: as the ninth best quarterback International Football League. My question,
Speaker 1: are they haters fair and foul? They had him behind
Speaker 1: Drake May who was just a Super Bowl justin Herbert.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's contentious. Some Lions fans be upset
Speaker 1: about that one. Dak Prescott, I might be personally upset
Speaker 1: with that one.
Speaker 2: I'm team on that.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Matthew Stafford, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams is one spot alone.
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty fair. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was totally he his top three. I was told
Speaker 1: he was top three, consensus, top three by one.
Speaker 2: I look at yeah, consensus, top three. He did say that.
Speaker 2: He did. He said, it's indisputable.
Speaker 1: You cann't argue it. Well, he's led the league after
Speaker 1: three seasons. Is it disrespect?
Speaker 2: It's not disrespect, it's fair. Like we've talked about Jared Goff,
Speaker 2: We've talked about him in that nine to thirteen range
Speaker 2: of where he should, you know, be put in the
Speaker 2: quarterback ranking. And if you have him over Herbert, if
Speaker 2: you have him over over Dak Prescott, like, sure, I'd
Speaker 2: give you those if you want either of them. If
Speaker 2: you're really gonna fight me on it, yeah whatever. I
Speaker 2: think both of those guys are more talented when you
Speaker 2: talk about just pure football talent, arm strength, escapability, improvisation,
Speaker 2: different things. But if you want Jared Goff because of
Speaker 2: the consistency and what he's done since he's taken over
Speaker 2: for the Lions offense, I'm not gonna. I wouldn't fight
Speaker 2: you tooth and nail on any of those. But this
Speaker 2: is a very fair ranking top ten. Sure, yeah it works.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is this is where, this is
Speaker 1: where you should have, like, if you're gonna have him
Speaker 1: top ten, this is right where comes up for me.
Speaker 1: You would think, after you know, three seasons leading the league,
Speaker 1: touchdown Jars all the good stuff, like, he would be
Speaker 1: in the top five. But there's context to these scenarios,
Speaker 1: right the way JG gets it done, which he does
Speaker 1: get it done systematically, surrounded by talent. It's hard to
Speaker 1: take that bit of context and put him in the
Speaker 1: top five conversation, the top three conversation. Then everybody wants
Speaker 1: to have him in. Is he top ten?
Speaker 2: Is good? Could get the job done? Yes?
Speaker 1: And he has the only guy I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: a big DAK guy. I think he did well last year.
Speaker 1: He did have George Pickens. And once again, this is
Speaker 1: the talent round. You just gonna bosh you up a
Speaker 1: little bit, right George Pickens. Ceedee lamb. Now you're talking
Speaker 1: about Dak being top ten after I think last year he.
Speaker 2: Was out of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is where right around where I would
Speaker 1: have JG. Just where between that the nine, maybe even
Speaker 1: seven to twelve area.
Speaker 2: That goes year on year off literally his whole career.
Speaker 2: It's like, if you look at his career the past
Speaker 2: like six years, it's been like forty nine hundred yards,
Speaker 2: thirty touchdowns, ten interceptions, and then the next year it's
Speaker 2: like two thousand yards ten touchdowns too. That's how I
Speaker 2: feel about the top ten in general. If you get
Speaker 2: past like top five or top.
Speaker 1: Six, it's like it's kind of interchangeable, depends on what
Speaker 1: kind of year the guy had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I.
Speaker 1: Think this is this is fair, but d way it's
Speaker 1: projected to me and I call the hater, like, you
Speaker 1: guys got to be top three, top five.
Speaker 2: I thought there'd be a lot more hoot and holler
Speaker 2: over dark Cash says I'd take golf over Stafford, Lamar,
Speaker 2: Dak and Drake. And why is Williams on this list?
Speaker 2: I mean two loaded questions there, brother, But you know
Speaker 2: that's your that's your thought process. Obviously, none of the
Speaker 2: gms or coaches or executives believe what you're saying, but listen,
Speaker 2: that's your guy. I can't be mad at you for it. Nick.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm not gonna say he should be
Speaker 4: higher on this list above the two guys that I
Speaker 4: typically would in Justin Herbert and Dak Prescott when you
Speaker 4: a don't make the playoffs, when you be, you know,
Speaker 4: when your team needs you the most and you're not
Speaker 4: able to expand your game like those others can with
Speaker 4: their legs in Dak and Justin Herbert to pick up
Speaker 4: a big first down and you know, kind of escape
Speaker 4: the pressure that was forced upon him. In his first
Speaker 4: season without Frank Ragnow, his QBR dropped eight points, and
Speaker 4: I think the big thing in that is there was
Speaker 4: more sacked, there was more pressure, and you had to
Speaker 4: see a little bit more of the flaws of Jared
Speaker 4: Goff when he gets rushed or else if he does
Speaker 4: have that elite center and he is able to step
Speaker 4: up and make some of those throws that would have
Speaker 4: propelled you into the playoffs. At times I would have
Speaker 4: him over Justin Herbert and Dak Prescott probably, But since
Speaker 4: the first year without Ragnow, he didn't really look good.
Speaker 4: So I am keeping him under those guys right now,
Speaker 4: just based on principle of not really getting it done
Speaker 4: last year. In the first year without Frank wrag Now,
Speaker 4: I think some of his you know, his wounds really showed.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the the blur reads Golf's last two years stack
Speaker 1: up well against just about any other quarterback over that time.
Speaker 1: He threw forty three yards and seventy one touchdowns, and
Speaker 1: only four quarterbacks have more four thousand, five hundred passing
Speaker 1: yard seasons than Golf five Breeze, Brady, Matt Ryan, and
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. That's quite the class for golf who consists
Speaker 1: of proa bowl performances that overshadowed him in the rams.
Speaker 1: Really weird the guy wins, an NFL coordinator, said he's
Speaker 1: going to find a completion if not under pressure. Mature
Speaker 1: pocket passer with a plus arm who could layer the
Speaker 1: ball at all three levels. Pocket pressure did play golf
Speaker 1: a bit in the twenty twenty five when he took
Speaker 1: the career high of thirty eight sacks. One knock on him.
Speaker 1: The pass has been his playmate when the pocket collapses.
Speaker 1: He's known in the league circles for good footwork, and
Speaker 1: he hasn't proved his toughness.
Speaker 2: In Detroit.
Speaker 1: Over the past five years, Goff appeared on nearly sixty
Speaker 1: percent of ballots to earn a spot in the top ten.
Speaker 1: His highest ranking was five. His lowest ranking was unranked.
Speaker 2: So no coach, executive or GM that was interviewed had
Speaker 2: him top three. No, damn Neil tough one, buddy, Listen, like,
Speaker 2: I get it. You know, I don't know if if
Speaker 2: Neil actually believes it or not. I'm starting to think
Speaker 2: Stick convinced himself of it and now it's just alive
Speaker 2: that he actually believes. But it's it's okay that he's
Speaker 2: not the number one quarterback in the NFL. Do you
Speaker 2: guys know why? The biggest reason why it would be true?
Speaker 2: If he was, we would be the best team in
Speaker 2: the league every year. If Jared Goff was truly a
Speaker 2: top three quarterback like everybody that we see in the
Speaker 2: chat says he is, you would have by far the
Speaker 2: best offense in the NFL every single year. And it
Speaker 2: wouldn't be close because all of those other guys you got.
Speaker 2: I'm in ros Saint Brown undeniably top five, Jamison Williams
Speaker 2: arguably the best wide receiver two in the NFL, Jamior
Speaker 2: Gibbs just rated the number one running back in madd
Speaker 2: and like Sam Laporta, went healthy a top five tight
Speaker 2: end in the NFL. So it's okay, And we love
Speaker 2: Jared Goff for what he does and to run this
Speaker 2: Lions offense, he is better suited than a lot of guys.
Speaker 2: But when you talk about just pure football players or
Speaker 2: pure quarterback players in a vacuum, you got it, you
Speaker 2: gotta have a little context behind it. I would agree
Speaker 2: with that entirely.
Speaker 7: Where he's at on this list, I won't make an
Speaker 7: argument for anybody, for anybody over him. I will say, though,
Speaker 7: this is Justin Herbert's last year on this list. If like,
Speaker 7: if he doesn't, if he doesn't do something this year
Speaker 7: with with the coaching staff, with the roster, with the
Speaker 7: weapons he had, like to me, I think, Justin Herbert,
Speaker 7: you know, I get it. I see the flashes too,
Speaker 7: But this is his this is his last year in
Speaker 7: my opinion, Like, this is last year. Just project this
Speaker 7: talent and you know and say that, all right, at
Speaker 7: some point you got to do something with it. You
Speaker 7: got to bring something to the table. And so I
Speaker 7: think that, yeah, they made the playoffs last year, and
Speaker 7: so to have golf nine or ten or even right
Speaker 7: right outside the top ten after a missing playoff season,
Speaker 7: a season where you don't have the best center in
Speaker 7: the NFL anymore, as Nick point out, which was a
Speaker 7: great point, like, it's totally fair his.
Speaker 2: Ranking LeBaron or Lebron. Oh three shot out Lebron with
Speaker 2: the super chat, he says, I think it's a fair take.
Speaker 2: I'd make the argument that he's over Dak and Herbert.
Speaker 2: But I disagree with Nick about the QBR thing. Yes,
Speaker 2: losing Rag now hurt, but dropped past his hurts QBR
Speaker 2: as well. You with the list back up there, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I got you. That's why.
Speaker 3: Where are you easy? With the Dak thing?
Speaker 7: I think Dak feels high six.
Speaker 2: Envy Pete runner up. What two years ago?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, two years ago.
Speaker 4: I think I was thinking last year was his yeah,
Speaker 4: crazy year, but it wasn't.
Speaker 3: After I just took a peek.
Speaker 4: He had thirty touchdowns, ten picks last year and the
Speaker 4: team missed the playoffs, So my apologies for that. I
Speaker 4: was thinking of the MVP type Dak. Yeah, no, him
Speaker 4: in front of them. I think I don't know if
Speaker 4: I would put Dak in front of them right as
Speaker 4: of this moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, two years ago, he had forty five hundred yards,
Speaker 2: thirty six touchdowns, nine interceptions, and a one oh five
Speaker 2: quarterback rating.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I guess it makes sense when you
Speaker 7: like six. Just that number feels too high for me.
Speaker 7: But you guys are right, like he's in that tier
Speaker 7: and if you want to put him off of last
Speaker 7: year the top of that tier, I guess I really can't.
Speaker 2: I guess I really can't argue burn with the super chat.
Speaker 2: He says, how would the eight guys ahead of Golf
Speaker 2: perform on the Lions with Penny Gibbs, Rod Jmo, Tesla
Speaker 2: and Lapordo?
Speaker 1: And I think that's a great super chata, Like when
Speaker 1: I look at the names, that's why I asked us
Speaker 1: you the list again, and I look at the names
Speaker 1: on there, maybe other than Dak, I feel like that
Speaker 1: equations just super pull for the Lions. And I am
Speaker 1: I wrong there any of those guys you you replaced
Speaker 1: Golf with, I figure going to the fucking super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I think the only one working with as much talent
Speaker 1: is maybe Stafford and Burrow.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean Herbert, his only wide receiver was
Speaker 1: fucking Lad McConkie. Yeah, I hope Quentin Johnson pull up.
Speaker 1: You know, he showed up every once and then, But
Speaker 1: just he.
Speaker 2: Has that nice tight end. Though, what's his name?
Speaker 1: The rookie I don't not pronounce that we're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of That's where I'm at with it. When
Speaker 1: I do like the assessment, Yeah, it's fair.
Speaker 4: I feel like six through ten is like pretty interchangeable there,
Speaker 4: I think, to be honest, what do you guys think
Speaker 4: about that? I'm just may even maybe a little higher.
Speaker 1: And this come might lean to like another topic we
Speaker 1: got coming up. I actually we'll probably get to that
Speaker 1: here soon. But like justin Herbert, the perfect zamp for
Speaker 1: me is like he just he played with nothing close
Speaker 1: to nothing last year. He was losing running back every
Speaker 1: single week. Lat McConkie is the only like imagine he
Speaker 1: had well golf. He had no offensive line.
Speaker 3: Last year, seven miss or left tackles injured.
Speaker 2: Like he just he was. He was.
Speaker 1: He's a great quarterback and put him in Goff's position.
Speaker 1: I think you're talking Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Jeremy Fowler broke down his like tears and uh so
Speaker 2: he did the top ten quarterbacks and everything like that,
Speaker 2: and he broke it down into tears and he is
Speaker 2: Tier one of Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes. Tier two
Speaker 2: is Matt Stafford, Tier three is Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 2: Tier four is Dak Herbert may and Golf, and then
Speaker 2: Tier five is Williams, Darnold, Daniels, Love Perty and Mayfield.
Speaker 1: I feel like and I saw some of the comments
Speaker 1: in Wolversports chattoo like some of the arguments like Love
Speaker 1: because I've been gassing up Love.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I do think if Jordan Love had what Jeered Goff
Speaker 1: was working with, you'd have just as much success, maybe
Speaker 1: if not more. And I get it people don't like that.
Speaker 1: Take I go look at what he's been with and
Speaker 1: in Wisconsin, in Green Bay. It ain't shipped to me
Speaker 1: that versus what we've had this is it ain't the
Speaker 1: same at all. And he's still making the playoffs. There's
Speaker 1: no excuses for him.
Speaker 4: How many quarterbacks would fail in this system?
Speaker 1: None, I mean, I'm I I mean, yeah, it's pretty fucking.
Speaker 2: Remember you know, you guys know I love Jared Goff
Speaker 2: from and I love I love Joe Goff as well.
Speaker 2: When when Teddy Bridgewater came in when he was injured,
Speaker 2: all he did was take the snap, hand the ball
Speaker 2: to JMO and Jamo ran for a touchdown. Like, it's
Speaker 2: kind of hard to be bad in the system the
Speaker 2: Lions have when you have probably the two most singular,
Speaker 2: two most explosive weapons in the NFL, arguably the best
Speaker 2: slot receiver in the NFL, and a tight end like
Speaker 2: Sam Laporta. I mean, fucking Johnny Morton was making that
Speaker 2: ship work, you know. I I you would have a
Speaker 2: hard time finding a quarterback that wouldn't look good in
Speaker 2: this system. Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at with it.
Speaker 2: And JJ's a good quarterback in the day. And corying Illness,
Speaker 2: Corey Gillness, I don't know. He says you got or
Speaker 2: y'all are fucking tripping Cory Gillens, Corey Gillen, Corn Gillans,
Speaker 2: Corn Gillens, I don't know what we're tripping on. Caleb
Speaker 2: Williams is bad in the system.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't speak up. I feel different about Kay
Speaker 1: Williams a lot of people. I think it's tremendously talented.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's pieced everything together yet to have
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't have my top ten personally.
Speaker 2: I just I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I had an argument with my boy Rodney yesterday he said,
Speaker 1: in a keepers league, you should keep ya Williams gonna
Speaker 1: be the top ten this year.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't feel that way. He has tremendous highlight plays.
Speaker 1: He's never in the top ten statistically for Fantasy wise,
Speaker 1: and I just is it possibility to get piece it
Speaker 1: together and become that guy? Yes, I just haven't seen
Speaker 1: enough yet to like have full confidence in it. I
Speaker 1: would not have him ten. We've did our NFC rankings.
Speaker 1: I had love over Caleb Williams. Yeah, but with what
Speaker 1: Jared gov has done statistically, it's hard to have anybody
Speaker 1: else over him.
Speaker 2: He's he's been performing.
Speaker 1: But again it's like we've been talking about for the
Speaker 1: last five minutes, putting of the guys in this offense
Speaker 1: with these weapons.
Speaker 2: Jordan included, it's hard Jordan love for sure. Like it's
Speaker 2: hard to look at what the Lions have and be like,
Speaker 2: I don't think it offense or I don't think a
Speaker 2: quarterback would be able to work in that offense.
Speaker 1: Would have to be a bad quarterback, you know, you'd
Speaker 1: have to be a just bad quarterbacks, and there are
Speaker 1: some of those.
Speaker 2: So we are blessed to have our guy. JG. Shout
Speaker 2: out Lebron with the super chat again, he says, I'd
Speaker 2: put Stafford in Tier one. He's been bawling. I agree, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I would too. I agree that's kind of the legacy
Speaker 2: thing because like Mahomes hasn't been that good the past
Speaker 2: two years. Correct, I don't know, he has been one
Speaker 2: of the worst deep ball quarterbacks in the NFL. I
Speaker 2: think he only has one touchdown of over fifty yards
Speaker 2: past two years.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking like Josh Allen on that Rams team though,
Speaker 4: and let's like like he does have Hella around him
Speaker 4: with obviously Hedavante and that rotten game is insane, but.
Speaker 2: He also makes some disgusting Yeah, like only like four
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the NFL can make and Stafford can make.
Speaker 1: All he might like yeah pound best arm probably him
Speaker 1: or Josh Mahomes.
Speaker 2: Still, I mean, yeah, we just have He was going on, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Mahomes are two. Yeah, Yeah, there's the top three. I think. Yeah,
Speaker 2: when you look at like, you know, they always like
Speaker 2: guys that can make any throw, like guys that you
Speaker 2: can make any throw in the book. And it's like Mahomes,
Speaker 2: Allen Burrough, Stafford, Loki put Killer Williams in there. Too,
Speaker 2: but obviously he's not at that level of quarterbacking yet,
Speaker 2: but his arm talents.
Speaker 1: Crazy h T says, So your argument is Lions need
Speaker 1: as system quarterback. I don't know if you're talking to
Speaker 1: someone in the chatter us. I think it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: who you have a quarterback from Lions right now?
Speaker 2: That work out pretty well, yeah, for sure, But ar
Speaker 2: Goff does a fantastic job of dishing the rock of
Speaker 2: running the offense. But when it comes down to situations
Speaker 2: where it's like he's got to make a play. If
Speaker 2: you are fourth and three Fate of the Universe on
Speaker 2: the line game winning drive in the NFC Championship game,
Speaker 2: who would you rather be standing in shotgun? Jared Goff
Speaker 2: or Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson or Joe Burrow or
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes Like, I think the question is a big
Speaker 2: factor when you could take off and get three yards
Speaker 2: at any time.
Speaker 4: True, I do think obviously short yard is that he's
Speaker 4: good with like the comebackers and stuff with obviously saying
Speaker 4: and laport up.
Speaker 3: But god, I was about to ask you guys, some
Speaker 3: fucking lost it.
Speaker 1: Who's failing on the team QB system?
Speaker 2: I don't that don't even make sense. It's not even
Speaker 2: the right question. Yeah, Ed says Staffers. Tier two golf.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Staffords, tier one golf is tier two when
Speaker 1: there's one, two, three, four, five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: I love I love JG. Cool guy, chill guy has
Speaker 1: brought us like playoffs. Not there, man, I'm just not
Speaker 1: there with him. That's just just me.
Speaker 4: I truly believe, though, you can win a super Bowl
Speaker 4: with the top ten quarterback and that's what Jared Goff is,
Speaker 4: and you need the goods around him, which we've seen.
Speaker 4: But if he does get this offensive line in order
Speaker 4: once again like it was prior to Frank Wragnow retiring,
Speaker 4: you're gonna see the best of Jared Goff that put
Speaker 4: you in position to win that NFC Championship game. Anything
Speaker 4: could happen in the Super Bowl if you don't turn
Speaker 4: the ball over. Jared Goff can win a Super Bowl. Here,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna fly out say that. This offensive line, though,
Speaker 4: needs to get back to where it was before Frank
Speaker 4: Gragnow retired for him to look like a guy that
Speaker 4: can win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: And will.
Speaker 1: We just watched him Donald with a Super Bowl, so
Speaker 1: it's like you got the right pieces. But that's that's
Speaker 1: that was always my beef is like JG. We see
Speaker 1: him go to a super Bowl. You can't say that
Speaker 1: you can't go to a super Bowl. Yeah, you can't
Speaker 1: say you can't win a playoff game with them. I
Speaker 1: never said those things as you can't win a super
Speaker 1: Bowl with them when you're paying them the amount of
Speaker 1: money that we are unfortunately paying him. He needs everything
Speaker 1: around him to go. Sam Darnold had a lot of
Speaker 1: pieces around hi last year because had a cheap ass contract.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: It's just like it's a team game and then the
Speaker 1: day and if you don't have a Superman type quarterback,
Speaker 1: I can't pay you Superman type money. I'm just never
Speaker 1: gonna be comfortable with that me personally.
Speaker 2: Bro needs to be wemby Bro. He needs to lock
Speaker 2: in take that.
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, in my opinion, he can get it done,
Speaker 1: but like take a little less. We could get you
Speaker 1: that offensive line, right, Like I agree wholeheartedly.
Speaker 7: I think that would be I like, going forward, if
Speaker 7: Jared Goff is signing another contract in Detroit, that is
Speaker 7: the only contract that I would want him on. Anything
Speaker 7: beyond that, Anything beyond that, if it's even if it's
Speaker 7: market value of what Jared Goff's talent and numbers suggest.
Speaker 7: I am out on that because I think that golf
Speaker 7: has proven at this point, like if he does the
Speaker 7: Tom Brady route where he takes the pay cut and
Speaker 7: you get the extra weapons and this and that, then yes, cool,
Speaker 7: you can you can absolutely win a super Bowl with
Speaker 7: him if everything is right. But I mean, I think
Speaker 7: that's a that's a big thing to ask, and you know,
Speaker 7: we have no evidence to say that.
Speaker 2: That will happen. And a lot of people in the
Speaker 2: chat are talking about Sam Donald, Steve Leam and Sam
Speaker 2: Donald won a Super Bowl with the top defense, Like, okay,
Speaker 2: is that the air you're talking about Jared goffin because
Speaker 2: we're you know, you're arguing he's a top three quarterback
Speaker 2: and then using Sam Donald as a base of reference.
Speaker 2: That doesn't fit. You can't say he's a top three
Speaker 2: quarterback and then be like, well, if you can win
Speaker 2: with Sam Donald, you can win with Jared Goff. Like yeah,
Speaker 2: that's true. But there is a difference between winning with
Speaker 2: someone and winning because of someone. And I mean, can
Speaker 2: Jared Goff get hot in the Super Bowl and throw
Speaker 2: for three hundred yards and score a bunch of touchdowns, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we've seen him do it before in games where he's
Speaker 2: hot and he's on one, he's a lot easier to
Speaker 2: take out of a game. We saw it happen in the.
Speaker 1: Super Bowl he was in so and kJ Obay brings
Speaker 1: up a great point. I hate to read it out loud,
Speaker 1: but we also think the worst no call in the
Speaker 1: NFL history to get him there to begin with.
Speaker 2: That's true in the Saints burn with the Super chat.
Speaker 2: He's just what's crazy is Caleb Williams has passed for
Speaker 2: more yards than Jordan Love the last two seasons. Love
Speaker 2: hasn't passed for over thirty four hundred yards since twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three. That is true.
Speaker 1: But there's the one christis of Love right now too,
Speaker 1: is he can't say healthy. He's missed two games each
Speaker 1: the past two seasons. Like, that's probably why that's the case.
Speaker 2: And Steve Lieman says, you're trying to say all you
Speaker 2: need to win at Super Bowl is the top QB.
Speaker 2: That's false. Nobody said that. I'm not saying that. Nobody
Speaker 2: said that at all. Definitely fucking helps. I just said it.
Speaker 2: That's just had a team sport yeah, I mean overall team.
Speaker 2: See that's when when you have lists of NFL's coaches,
Speaker 2: executives and scouts, Hey they got they gotta just go.
Speaker 1: For something else and just start making stuff up. Edward
Speaker 1: O'Neill says, easy isn't hurts being paid a lot. They won,
Speaker 1: just a thought. Yeah, go look at his contract. Go
Speaker 1: look at how it's backloaded. They got to use those
Speaker 1: void years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at his caphit when they won, and you.
Speaker 1: Know we can't do that. We're not a cash rich team.
Speaker 2: Uh lebront. It feels disrespectful. I'm low key good with
Speaker 2: jg at eight to ten. I just hate when people
Speaker 2: say dumbshiz and put him sixteen to twenty. That shit's crazy.
Speaker 2: Me great, one hundred percent. Jared Goff should be no
Speaker 2: lower than thirteen. And we talked about the seven to
Speaker 2: thirteen range of quarterbacks in the NFL. I'm gonna I
Speaker 2: want to pull up that Jeremy Fowler tweet again because
Speaker 2: the seven to fourteen range of quarterbacks in the NFL
Speaker 2: is extremely fluctuating. When you look at these guys, it's
Speaker 2: dependent on years.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie in a vacuum. I can see
Speaker 1: him getting a sixteen, like just taking everything away from it.
Speaker 1: If I don't, if you don't have Jamir Gibbs, i'mona Jamo,
Speaker 1: Sam Laporte. I could see him getting a sixteen when
Speaker 1: you look.
Speaker 2: At one, two, three, four or five six. So Herbert
Speaker 2: may Goff, Williams, Darnold Daniels love then you got then
Speaker 2: after that, perty Mayfield, Lawrence, all of those guys you
Speaker 2: could throw around, like Trevor Lawrence pretty good last year
Speaker 2: when he finally had a competent offensive coordinator or offensive
Speaker 2: play caller. I think it's very fluctuating. There is that
Speaker 2: seven to thirteen range. So uh, shout out to Burn
Speaker 2: for being a member of the Wolverd Sports crew for
Speaker 2: twenty one months. Shout out. He says, I'm a pro
Speaker 2: Green Bay quarterback hater. Full disclosure. That's fair, So sure
Speaker 2: I am. I am as well? So am I I
Speaker 2: liked Aaron Rodgers after he left, I started to really
Speaker 2: appreciate him for what he was. Brett Favre piece of
Speaker 2: shit facts. Yeah, Steel's.
Speaker 1: Dick picks contexts to it. We really just have what
Speaker 1: you have to work with him.
Speaker 2: Be honest with you.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to read the like conditions surrounding the polls,
Speaker 1: but they really just gave him. Hey, he give us
Speaker 1: your top ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like again, vacum.
Speaker 1: I can see him get a sixteen angle lie, but
Speaker 1: like performance based on what he's working with he's got.
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Speaker 1: and be a friend to a friend and share the
Speaker 1: stream his next topic. He's kind of the topic for like,
Speaker 1: kind of discussed this already to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: and we don't got into it.
Speaker 2: We don't want to.
Speaker 1: I think we kind of got our answer in short.
Speaker 1: But we have a group chat with one Lucas Klotts.
Speaker 1: We threw up a graphic in there that was Dan
Speaker 1: Campbell and Justin Herbert. He said, could you imagine? And
Speaker 1: I got to imagining and I did see at the party. Now, now, obviously,
Speaker 1: if it had gone down in the sense of they
Speaker 1: drafted Herbert instead of Jeff Okuda, Jesus Man, what a
Speaker 1: fucking ball drop there, it would change some things. Though
Speaker 1: you can't promise that we would have Jamison Williams. You
Speaker 1: can't promise that we would have any these pieces. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Masstafige still becomes a trade piece, but it's the rams is.
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell even hired Matt just keep his job, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't you know this and that there? But if
Speaker 1: I'm just strap up swapping the two players, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you're winning the fucking Super Bowl. Justin Herbert of
Speaker 1: jer Goff on this team.
Speaker 2: The defense, I don't know. I don't know if Justin
Speaker 2: Herbert being here is to overcome the defense, Like, I
Speaker 2: don't know if it gives you that much more of
Speaker 2: a boost because right now, for me, Jared Goff isn't
Speaker 2: the reason you're not winning a Super Bowl. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, I look at the Washington game. You can
Speaker 2: say a different thing, but I think the defense is
Speaker 2: much much more of an issue for for why you
Speaker 2: wouldn't win a super Bowl. Justine Herbert overcome that. Justin Herbert, though,
Speaker 2: is a that that's a that's a big point of
Speaker 2: contention because he does feel like a Lion Stafford type
Speaker 2: of situation. And I know he hasn't had even the
Speaker 2: stats that that Stafford had in Detroit. But Stafford also had,
Speaker 2: you know, Golden Pate and Calvin Johnson and bevy of
Speaker 2: very good pass catchers. When Justin Herbert really hasn he he's
Speaker 2: a special quarterback and you see him when he's healthy.
Speaker 2: When he's on, he is up there with the best
Speaker 2: of the best. He can make all the throws. He's
Speaker 2: a big guy, he's pretty mobile. He does not get
Speaker 2: enough credit for how good of an athlete he is.
Speaker 2: Would that single move of Justin Herbert to Jared Goff
Speaker 2: mean the Lions win a Super Bowl? No, I don't
Speaker 2: think it would. Would he give him a better chance,
Speaker 2: that's debatable. Probably it would.
Speaker 3: It would it definitely would give him a better chance.
Speaker 3: But I do think back to what.
Speaker 4: Was it a thirty pointly twenty eight point three Lawrence.
Speaker 2: Through what five interceptions in the first half or something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 7: So I was looking up that lot right now, throw
Speaker 7: four interceptions.
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence threw four interceptions the first half and they
Speaker 2: still won the game because Justin Herbert.
Speaker 3: Threw four picks yep in that game game.
Speaker 4: And I know he doesn't have the help like he
Speaker 4: would have around in the d or with the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 3: But man, like, it's hard to oh for three.
Speaker 4: Isn't that the same exact Detroit Lions Matthew Stafford playoff record?
Speaker 3: It is oh and three?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Have they won that division? The Chargers? I don't think
Speaker 3: is that three wild card losses? That is all that is?
Speaker 2: That is very ear.
Speaker 4: Think about all the you know, Chicago old a p
Speaker 4: but uh yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: It's a gamble.
Speaker 4: It is really similar to the Matthew Stafford thing. But
Speaker 4: if you are talking realistic yet, the Detroit Lions can't
Speaker 4: do this because they were given Jared goff of no
Speaker 4: trade clause when you absolutely didn't need to. If we're
Speaker 4: gonna actually come down to what we are saying about it.
Speaker 4: You can't do this because you fucked up and gave
Speaker 4: Jared goff of no trade clause.
Speaker 2: What's the worst no trade clause in the city?
Speaker 3: Serious? Why did you give either of these guys no
Speaker 3: trade clauses?
Speaker 2: Because that's all we had, the only guy we had
Speaker 2: at the point. Yeah, like again, one for one, does
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert make the Detroit Lions a Super Bowl winner? No,
Speaker 2: I would not say so. Yes, I would say so.
Speaker 1: I even look back at the lead game, by the way,
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, all the turnovers lost that game. I remember
Speaker 1: a game like that as number one seed gets Washington
Speaker 1: Commanders happen here too, we saw faith in Jared Golf
Speaker 1: and Justin Herbert working with a lot less over there.
Speaker 1: I look back even to the forty nine ers game.
Speaker 1: Rock Perty scrambled his way all over us and he
Speaker 1: got that victory.
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert can do that.
Speaker 1: It's like, and I wouldn't maybe have to come down
Speaker 1: to a drop by Josh Reynolds. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I just I do think I don't know about
Speaker 1: winning a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Sure you could say maybe.
Speaker 1: But I just think it's a I think it's a
Speaker 1: big upgrade.
Speaker 2: I really do.
Speaker 1: I think you sure would be in the super Bowl
Speaker 1: at the very least.
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 7: Like his playoff resume is pretty it's pretty sketchy.
Speaker 2: The super team he's winning the damn. I think he
Speaker 2: leans a lot more Stafford than he does actually like
Speaker 2: a bad quarterback or a not like because you gotta
Speaker 2: think what the first two losses he or the first
Speaker 2: two losses of his playoff even all three of them
Speaker 2: were with Brandon fucking Staley as his head coach, Like,
Speaker 2: I mean, the offense would be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be nasty.
Speaker 4: I don't know if his person that well, I guess,
Speaker 4: But unfortunately, you.
Speaker 2: Can't play cornerback or safety. And that's the biggest Like,
Speaker 2: if the Lions had Kirby Joseph and Brian Branch healthy
Speaker 2: as can be coming into this season, I would say
Speaker 2: they're winning the super Bowl. But you know, you don't.
Speaker 2: Your secondary is loaded with question marks. Your defense as
Speaker 2: a whole is you don't even know what scheme you're running.
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert can't help that. I think he'll overcome it.
Speaker 3: We got Calvin Sheppard to figure it out.
Speaker 1: He's lost a fucking peace and tearing on as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you guys playing the nickel for the past
Speaker 1: two years?
Speaker 2: I finally get it. This guy goes to jail.
Speaker 3: With the what do you guys about?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: That's crazy, the insane stuff, insane fucking stuff.
Speaker 2: Man, try to keep easy takes down. Fucking he he's
Speaker 2: doing it.
Speaker 4: To spite you. What team do you guys can go
Speaker 4: play for? And didn't he work out for a few.
Speaker 1: Jets Texans and then he'll go play nickel there and
Speaker 1: he'll do amazing thing.
Speaker 3: He can do whatever he wants.
Speaker 2: That's a stacked fucking defense. Uh.
Speaker 1: Twenty eighteen, Jed Superol run through one touchdown by the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah well yeah, that's that is true. He only threw
Speaker 2: one touchdown on his run to the Super Bowl. It's
Speaker 2: like it was carried now.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I love Jered Goff, I really do. I
Speaker 1: just I like picking on the people were like, fucking
Speaker 1: let's go I just it's fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you were hanging around this weekend, you were like,
Speaker 4: you know what, Monday, let's find every.
Speaker 2: Chery no popping in.
Speaker 1: We didn't really get great news coming into the Weekend
Speaker 1: today stuff.
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. I'm with you. I agree. I do
Speaker 3: think this team.
Speaker 1: I'm always gonna call like how I see it? Man,
Speaker 1: I could be a fan of a guy at a
Speaker 1: cake Conny. You know I love Kate Kenyon. I'm a
Speaker 1: fucking Kate Kenny in the stand. Who's better him or Wimby?
Speaker 1: I've told you Wimby a million times. Yes, Wimby's all
Speaker 1: the best player in the fucking league. I'm not I
Speaker 1: can't lie to you, guys. I love Jared Goff. I'm
Speaker 1: a fan of Jared Goff. Do I think he's a
Speaker 1: top five No.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: If you guy asked me if I got a place
Speaker 1: with Justin Herbert, yeah I would do that. I think
Speaker 1: that's an upgrade.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: I think the real question is is how many first
Speaker 4: round picks would you package?
Speaker 3: If it was.
Speaker 2: I would do the same deal Stafford, Yeah, yeah, to
Speaker 2: first two, first and quarterback yeah, or for for for
Speaker 2: any of those guys. For Joe Burrow, Ohio sucks, buddy,
Speaker 2: Why don't you move up north a little bit? You
Speaker 2: guys think Jared Goff would actually exercise his no trade.
Speaker 4: Cause no, no, unless Dan him and Dan went no
Speaker 4: because like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, yeah, because he's already if it was all
Speaker 1: guaranteed money. Yeah, maybe because he goes somewhere where it
Speaker 1: looks like twenty twenty two d short Lions or's first
Speaker 1: year here, and then they're like, yeah, we're not paying
Speaker 1: you seventy Get the funk off my team.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like he I would to
Speaker 2: do what ours him? Would you leave here Bone Nicks
Speaker 2: or da Press? Absolutely not?
Speaker 7: Fun fact though, if Darren signs the qualifying offer, he
Speaker 7: gets a no trade cause as well, he just gets it. Yeah,
Speaker 7: every every restricted free agent that signs the qualifying offer
Speaker 7: gets a no trade for the for the year, so
Speaker 7: he can wave it if he wants. Yeah, he can
Speaker 7: wave it. But he also does get a no trade
Speaker 7: cause if he if he signs.
Speaker 2: This new CBA fucking sucks.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think though that's been in place for the
Speaker 7: last couple of cbas, maybe it hasn't always been the case.
Speaker 2: I'll have to look at what something that would be.
Speaker 1: But fucking a dude, But yeah, they're changing this just ahead.
Speaker 1: Players Union is changing this year after this going on.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they said they see the great the best player
Speaker 7: in the league take a pay cut, and they're like,
Speaker 7: all right, dude, this system is broken.
Speaker 2: Ray Gatardo's says Ray Gatardo's Bone Nicks or Dak Prescott. Uh,
Speaker 2: if you're choosing betwe Dak Prescott. All I'm not a guy.
Speaker 3: This show hates bow Knicks. I like the bow Knicks. Saga.
Speaker 4: No, I think they win the Super Bowl at bo
Speaker 4: Knicks doesn't get injured. I think they win that game.
Speaker 2: And I do know they win the Super Bowl. I
Speaker 2: can see him going to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: They certainly put up a better fight than whatever the
Speaker 4: fuck the Patriots did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they probably wouldn't beat the Seahawks because the were
Speaker 2: literally just like the Broncos.
Speaker 3: But better to lose that game the Patriots.
Speaker 1: You have an inexperienced quarterback. You're missing some piece on
Speaker 1: the offensive line, experience offensive line guys Will Campbell got
Speaker 1: slaughtered in that game. Like they never had a chance.
Speaker 1: Denver would have had a chance because equal defense going
Speaker 1: to that one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I thought Denver had the best defense and
Speaker 4: yeah in the league.
Speaker 1: Got defense versus Sam Donald the other you know.
Speaker 3: That could have you know, made him look a little bit.
Speaker 1: And that a great if I'm not mistaken if aybody
Speaker 1: wants to get up chat or whoever. The Denver had
Speaker 1: a great running defense too. I don't know if K
Speaker 1: nine is having the type of game he had to
Speaker 1: Denver into that conversation.
Speaker 2: Would be a bad game, for sure.
Speaker 3: I'm not a Botnecks guy.
Speaker 2: Better Drake may Or Kill Williams talent wise like talent
Speaker 2: wise Caleb. Talent wise is Caleb for sure, But his
Speaker 2: quarterback I think strapping. I think Drake.
Speaker 1: May sison in the competition.
Speaker 2: I think Drake may Is he's a better quarterback right now,
Speaker 2: But I think Caleb is going to be better. God,
Speaker 2: damn it, what's up? Why is it? What's up the Caleb?
Speaker 2: I'm not there, man, it's the talent, yes, everything else.
Speaker 2: You know, throw that. I feel like it should have
Speaker 2: to come down to you doing that.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's not on him. Yeah, it is for Ship to
Speaker 2: get open and then he hangs onto it too long.
Speaker 2: He does some dumb ship. I mean, to make a
Speaker 2: throw like that in the corner of the end zone,
Speaker 2: you gotta hang on to it pretty long, you do,
Speaker 2: you do? He shouldn't be doing that all game? No, But
Speaker 2: I think as he matures in Ben Johnson's offense. He's
Speaker 2: going to turn into a monster.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see Drake May this year he gets
Speaker 1: a j Brown and then actually like a fucking respectable.
Speaker 2: Schedule as well. Yeah, this would be a good telling you,
Speaker 2: but I think he's the real deal. Shout out I too.
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Speaker 2: You know it happened.
Speaker 1: They turned off the sound at the FIFA sound on
Speaker 1: over the UFC sound and Boooner was throwing a fucking fit.
Speaker 2: Man, He's I don't know them. I don't even know
Speaker 2: about next time, where else you gonna go. It's the
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Speaker 2: He tried getting in. They didn't let him. Make. No
Speaker 2: other dogs in there other than me.
Speaker 4: My question to you about that Art in Jake's scenario,
Speaker 4: there were there more FIFA fans probably than UFC fans.
Speaker 3: I feel like that to read the room kind of.
Speaker 2: Vibe, I would have called Brendan.
Speaker 1: I don't know why there, it's probably there's probably more
Speaker 1: FIFA fans there. Yeah, yeah, I would have called Brendan.
Speaker 2: Made that's kind of fucked up. I don't think it's
Speaker 2: fucked up. I think if you had the poll, it's
Speaker 2: like you get if it's seventy thirty fans the USC fans,
Speaker 2: you're still this is America. God damn it, you'll see's
Speaker 2: not dead. It was.
Speaker 3: Was it packed with FIFA fans?
Speaker 1: Probably a good split split. I'd say there's more UFC
Speaker 1: people there though. That's our stopping ground, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And if the fans came to blows, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know, Europeans are kind of crazy. We came to blows.
Speaker 2: I'm taking the UFC crowd still. It was it was Norway,
Speaker 2: wasn't it.
Speaker 1: Uh No, Norway lost earlier than day. It was Switzerland
Speaker 1: and Argentina. Oh for sure, UFCAS winning.
Speaker 2: Then I was gonna say, I don't know if I'm
Speaker 2: taking the UFC crowd over which.
Speaker 1: Now that I'm like watching soccer, Argentina's got some funck
Speaker 1: shit going on in their favorite and I just found
Speaker 1: out their fans are fucking super racist.
Speaker 2: And I remember too, had the Nazi crowd went to
Speaker 2: Argentina most of Europe pretty after World War Two? You
Speaker 2: remember hear about that ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was an entire German streaking community in Argentina.
Speaker 2: Fucking wild.
Speaker 12: Most of Europe is like pretty racist, like they don't
Speaker 12: like Argentina, super racist. The Nazis were sucking up sheltered there.
Speaker 12: She's seen the ship there calling speed and the musclim
Speaker 12: e Gypties. I was like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 2: Sure, that's what people's taking off goals for Egypt and ship.
Speaker 2: It's wild.
Speaker 7: That's why you're seeing all the all the like actual
Speaker 7: good pr coming out of the United of the United States,
Speaker 7: Like from all these countries is they're just like holy ship.
Speaker 2: Like, you guys aren't pieces of ship.
Speaker 7: You guys aren't like each other, Like yeah, it's like
Speaker 7: it's like everybody's been overwhelmingly positive tourist wise their experience
Speaker 7: in the US for the World Cup.
Speaker 1: Which was definitely surprised because that one's like ship talking
Speaker 1: as usually.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's actually.
Speaker 2: Great, Like we're fat pieces of garb.
Speaker 1: Man, we are fat pieces of garbage, or at least we're.
Speaker 2: The best gunp for yourself.
Speaker 6: At least.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing some twenty twenty two heavyweight clips. You joined
Speaker 1: the heavyweights?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man, you're gonna pass me up. Pretty happy,
Speaker 2: happy life.
Speaker 3: I'm not like ten pounds after that.
Speaker 2: Shut up.
Speaker 3: I was battling something last week.
Speaker 2: Oh you had it, but covid, I'm going to get
Speaker 2: it on purpose.
Speaker 3: Do you think you had it? No, guy might have
Speaker 3: had it, you know if you had it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's no.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: It was like that time, like my boy, my boy
Speaker 2: Seaball got put down for twelve days straight. Oh I
Speaker 2: didn't have twelve day Yeah. He's every hour on the
Speaker 2: hour faucet for his boyfriend. His wife kidding around only
Speaker 2: right now? Hear that? Uh bird super Argentina and Brazil
Speaker 2: is actually a race war race war you co nipple
Speaker 2: best that she was awesome? Oh it's your first race
Speaker 2: war more? All right?
Speaker 1: What's would the pole get us? Poll Aiden Hudgson fifty
Speaker 1: nine percent this summer league? All right, so it's going around.
Speaker 1: It's like the seventh year of ESPN doing it. We
Speaker 1: just run it off with the quarterbacks. Jared goffing it
Speaker 1: up nine despite Neilton's top three.
Speaker 2: Chris is a pretty big guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris six seven, no sixty six sixty.
Speaker 2: Six, Yeah, big fellow, yeah big come. My mama's paying
Speaker 2: negative to Yeah, no vert he did in the game
Speaker 2: of basketball. If Nick was christas heart he'd be a
Speaker 2: D one athlete. If Nick was christas Hearty, he'd be
Speaker 2: Lad McConkey at least Division two. Uh.
Speaker 1: Far more racist in Europe or America.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Asian oh, Asia, super racist. Yeah you see the
Speaker 2: Japanese Twitter Dude, really you hit translated tweet on that.
Speaker 1: Goddamn I like that feature, by the way, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: pretty cool. Instagram is kind of weird with it because
Speaker 1: they'll do it the videos.
Speaker 2: And it makes me uncomfortable. Instagram comments, good to you.
Speaker 2: You turned Spanish? You know sometimes sometimes it changed the
Speaker 2: language on Instagram? What it filtered? You just in Spanish
Speaker 2: for some reason?
Speaker 3: What the hell?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: For sure, I'm sing.
Speaker 2: It was actually pretty sounded pretty good.
Speaker 3: That's that's actually sick. I gotta get a video, Nick
Speaker 3: Grays Los t Gray.
Speaker 4: Yes, it was something like that, shin I don't even
Speaker 4: know almost.
Speaker 3: No, No, that's.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 1: We had a big debate. Yeah, during the Michael Parsons trade. Ye,
Speaker 1: who would you rather have? Yeah, hunch of Parsons.
Speaker 3: I was on the wrong end of that one. Okay,
Speaker 3: is that the question?
Speaker 2: Wait, who's you rather have? What end do you want.
Speaker 2: He was unhutched.
Speaker 3: I was on hotch coming off of the injury.
Speaker 4: I thought he flashed that he could be the best
Speaker 4: of one of the best players in the league, better
Speaker 4: than Michael Parsons, because he was on track to set
Speaker 4: the sack record prior to getting injured. He didn't come
Speaker 4: back and show that same guy this season, which is
Speaker 4: okay because you can't go out and set the sack
Speaker 4: record every year. But after what I saw Mikah Parsons,
Speaker 4: you know, and what he did to this Detroit Lions
Speaker 4: team in that first game, it was wrong.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm still going with hutch I wrong. I look
Speaker 2: at I need to see Michael Parsons come back from
Speaker 2: his devastating injury that he's coming off of. Aiden Hutchinson,
Speaker 2: coming off of that nasty leg break with a subpar
Speaker 2: defense around him, was top five and Defensive Player of
Speaker 2: the Year voting. He had almost twenty sacks on the season,
Speaker 2: and like we said, full boar, Aiden Hutchinson with a
Speaker 2: healthy Alee McNeil was on track to have like thirty
Speaker 2: sacks in a season. So I do believe Hutchinson is
Speaker 2: right up there in that class of edge rushers. I
Speaker 2: think you had Miles Garrett ahead of everybody else, But
Speaker 2: then after that, when you talk about Michael Parsons, Max Crosby,
Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson, I think they are right there in the
Speaker 2: same breath.
Speaker 1: I think the Michael Parson's finished with more votes of
Speaker 1: Raight Hudson last year for Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even with the injury.
Speaker 4: He was on pace for like twenty two sacks though
Speaker 4: the year that he got injured, like twenty two plus
Speaker 4: set the record and stuff. He had fourteen and a
Speaker 4: half last season, So I'm like, I want him to
Speaker 4: get back up to like that Miles Garrett type number
Speaker 4: or at least impact, and I think he is pretty
Speaker 4: damn close. But it is just a couple steps below
Speaker 4: in my eyes, I think. And there's nothing wrong with
Speaker 4: that at all. Ian not just said, is one of
Speaker 4: the best offenders in the NFL.
Speaker 2: I think when you look at the factors of the
Speaker 2: defensive scheme and coordinator being you know, first year in question,
Speaker 2: some some things to work through there, Ali McNeil being
Speaker 2: out and then a shell of himself when he came
Speaker 2: back as the interior pressure piece. Your only other somewhat
Speaker 2: reasonable edge rusher being al Quadee Mohammad, who was a
Speaker 2: coverage sack artist. I think there are a lot of
Speaker 2: factors to why eight and Hutches had handed down here
Speaker 2: on top of coming off of the injury and his
Speaker 2: down year was still being one of your best players
Speaker 2: in the NFL. He was down here, Hudge, that was
Speaker 2: a I think Adrian Hutchinson will be closer to twenty
Speaker 2: six on more more seasons than not when he's healthy.
Speaker 1: I mean, the numbers with healthy one McNeil on the
Speaker 1: field are to you know, true and be tested throughout
Speaker 1: the tire of the season. You it would probably be that.
Speaker 1: But I think when you watch Aden Hutchson versus you
Speaker 1: watch Miles part or Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2: There's a difference. Brother.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a clear difference in the way Mike's
Speaker 1: beating these guys. First how Hutches And I'm not discrediting
Speaker 1: Hutching anyway. Like I said, I'm love my guys. I'm
Speaker 1: always keep it a buck. Michael Parsons is the better
Speaker 1: as rusher of between the two, where at least it
Speaker 1: comes to get into the quarterback and that's where he
Speaker 1: was ranked as such in this NFL executives, coaches and scouts.
Speaker 2: What do you think Hutch finished? Do you already know?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'll say fifth, it's probably i'd say Miles,
Speaker 2: Micah Max, Oh you saw it. I didn't. But those,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the three best addressers in the league.
Speaker 2: Then Brian Burns maybe over him.
Speaker 1: There are four of them. Brian Burns is not one,
Speaker 1: but we are Will Anderson?
Speaker 2: Is it? I love I love Hutch. When you watch
Speaker 2: the film, these guys Will Anderson and my this ship
Speaker 2: looks different. Pretty It's like dominance. It's like, what the
Speaker 2: fuck is that? I mean, I've seen Hutch dominate plenty
Speaker 2: of people to like, you go watch that Tampa Bay
Speaker 2: game where he had three sacks in and just absolutely
Speaker 2: dominating anybody they put in front of me.
Speaker 1: Sure, do you know you know what stream tackle was
Speaker 1: in in that game? Yeahs be fair?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: Watching Will Anderson in practice last year, watch them no
Speaker 1: fucking joint practices. But I was like, what the fuck's
Speaker 1: different on the same field as Hutch by the way,
Speaker 1: to me, what the fuck is going on over there?
Speaker 2: Uh? Well, Underson was number three, michaeh Parts was number two.
Speaker 1: Obviously, Myles Garret number one, uh, Crosby four, Crowsby five.
Speaker 2: It's racist. I think that's fair. I'm yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna argue it either way. I just I
Speaker 2: fuck with hutch Michael Parsons kind of a turd, and
Speaker 2: that's for me. It's literally, I like hutch better. So
Speaker 2: I'm going with Hutch because I fucking I love Hudch.
Speaker 2: I like touch two. Michael Parson is the better dead rushers. Yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe this is a regular good place. I think Aiden
Speaker 2: Hutchinson is in that same class of regular good player.
Speaker 4: I think if Aiden Hutchinson wants to surpass obviously the Crosby, Parsons,
Speaker 4: Will Anderson, I guess you could kind of put that
Speaker 4: pretty close to each other. He is gonna have to
Speaker 4: hit like that eighteen nineteen sack mark. Yeah, this year
Speaker 4: he's gonna be hanging around number five, which is a
Speaker 4: great defensive end. Or if you're pairing, you know, if
Speaker 4: Brad went out and did make one of those big
Speaker 4: upgrades for another really good defensive end, you know, then
Speaker 4: I think you could see him take even that next level,
Speaker 4: that next step. Yeah, well, they can't put a tight
Speaker 4: end now in that tackle side. Every single time, and
Speaker 4: you know, get the help with the running back that
Speaker 4: way every single time. I don't think he's gonna I
Speaker 4: hope he gets there, but project, you know, seventeen, eighteen,
Speaker 4: nineteen sacks is a lot.
Speaker 3: But I mean Hutchinson, he is a guy.
Speaker 2: I think he's closer to twenty than he is fifteen
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 1: I think I think Labertini, you missed us Nick when
Speaker 1: he was here. To put it up perfectly, is like
Speaker 1: I probably put hutch On on the in Tier two
Speaker 1: for the top of the tier two when it's like
Speaker 1: you watch Miles Garrett beat triple teams, We've watched Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons beat triple teams. Like we can't always have this
Speaker 1: excuse for him. You know what I'm saying, At some point,
Speaker 1: if you want to be mentioned amongst Miles Garrett and
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons or even better than you gotta you gotta
Speaker 1: go out there and beat those triple.
Speaker 2: Teams and go get a sack. You know. That's kind
Speaker 2: of where I'm at with it.
Speaker 1: But again, him top five is not like I'm not
Speaker 1: shitting on him by any means. I just think there's
Speaker 1: there's levels and I'm happy to have any Hutchs on
Speaker 1: this team, He's a fucking dog.
Speaker 4: Do you think he's in there is an avenue for
Speaker 4: Hutchinson to get over these guys or have you seen
Speaker 4: enough throughout his career that he will not get there?
Speaker 1: If he can get back to playing run defense. I
Speaker 1: mean last year Hut kind of fell off in terms
Speaker 1: of like as a run defender, And I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's on purpose. I probably would maybe because he's
Speaker 1: like our own probably the only guy that really could
Speaker 1: trust to get after the quarterback. A little bit that
Speaker 1: could have been a little bit schemed there, but if
Speaker 1: he returned to that. Yeah, and you know what, I
Speaker 1: will say this to Nick Health, the only McNeil when
Speaker 1: hutch set those records for those first what six games
Speaker 1: it was, he was five. And if only that we
Speaker 1: get that vision McNeil, I think, numbers wise, you could
Speaker 1: be in the conversation for sure.
Speaker 2: I think so too.
Speaker 4: Do you think we will get that version of Alee McNeil.
Speaker 2: I hope so, Man, We need them. I do too, Man,
Speaker 2: there's so many questions. We need them me more than
Speaker 2: we fucking know it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, as we get closer, I might start getting more hope.
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, Oh yeah, we will. We all
Speaker 2: will real quick. That's how it happens. Man, before we
Speaker 2: go to talk Pistons. Roger McCreary not a great nickel.
Speaker 2: I'm not not good.
Speaker 1: No, that's why I got signed for dirt cheat this year.
Speaker 1: Don't fall for that hype. I'm telling you, ladies of it.
Speaker 1: Please do now fall for the hype. You know, the
Speaker 1: Rams acquiring all these fucking Infinity Stones to go win
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: He was he was supposed to be that piece last year.
Speaker 2: He was garbage ass. Roger mccreeden's don't don't fall in
Speaker 2: Keith Abney's gonna be starting in that spot by the
Speaker 2: end of the year. Guys, I love you. You're gonna
Speaker 2: write article called Roger mcrey Oh we're good. We're not.
Speaker 2: We're not, We're not. No fire. I don't even remember, uh.
Speaker 2: Before we get off the lists and the rankings, A
Speaker 2: lot of you guys in this chat, and I remember you,
Speaker 2: a lot of you guys talked a lot of shit
Speaker 2: about me when I said the Lions should get Leonard Williams.
Speaker 2: Do you know who was ranked the number one defensive
Speaker 2: tackle in the National Football League by coaching and scouts.
Speaker 2: Leonard Williams, I saw the attack. Yeah, that guy kind
Speaker 2: of blew that blew of mind. I also wanted letter Williams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when that trade went down, I was kind of
Speaker 1: just pointed because it felt like something that was very
Speaker 1: doable for this very doble I've loved les a jet.
Speaker 2: It would have been nice to have if Alea McNeil
Speaker 2: was injured and you couldn't get interior pressure Williams.
Speaker 3: And what did he go for in that trade?
Speaker 2: A third round pick or fourth round pick or something
Speaker 2: like that. It's been trade twice the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: We see maybe he's an asshole for Tesla. I don't
Speaker 2: care if he's asshole.
Speaker 3: We don't trade for assholes.
Speaker 2: We only Drew, We only sign him at cornerback. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: It was a second and fifth, second and fifth, so
Speaker 2: pretty steep, very doable.
Speaker 13: Though, has Brad traded a first or a second? So
Speaker 13: you're saying, and it's rakestraw and who is even the
Speaker 13: fifth round pick? And it's in Vaki for Lena Williams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do that. I do that for sure.
Speaker 4: You gotta take a shot on some of these guys,
Speaker 4: especially in a contract year you know sometimes like if
Speaker 4: they're giving them up, like go out.
Speaker 2: And do it.
Speaker 4: I'm still surprised that they haven't made a move for
Speaker 4: a cornerback, But maybe I'm not surprised because it's Brad.
Speaker 2: They're not gone there. Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not
Speaker 2: surprised because the day happened, I was like, yeah, they're
Speaker 2: not gonna do anything. But it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 7: That man, what if your Brad Holzer, you're just terrified
Speaker 7: to make another cornerback decision for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's gotta be like I said, you can't
Speaker 2: be whispering anymore. Man speak soundly. Find a good cornerback
Speaker 2: like rock Yes, in that's a good cornerback. You did that. Well,
Speaker 2: maybe don't draft anymore and just sign some.
Speaker 4: You traded a third rounder for Carlton Davis looked like
Speaker 4: one of the best cornerbacks in football last year when
Speaker 4: he was healthy for the New England Pats. So it's
Speaker 4: just how about you trade a third rounder, go get
Speaker 4: a solid cornerback.
Speaker 3: Please go get a starter.
Speaker 2: This second and fifth for Winning Williams.
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Speaker 1: He's your wets fimilation Chris Nicholas call off shout to
Speaker 1: the Dundata, a big support of the network, to watch
Speaker 1: the weekend show. He says, Stick said he thinks we'll
Speaker 1: re sign TA if he clears his name. Stick also
Speaker 1: has going undefeated.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They also said in the same show Sticking Broder, no
Speaker 1: surprise that Jared Goff will win mvp' stop it, I've
Speaker 1: clipped it.
Speaker 2: I clipped it for him. It's just that's just what
Speaker 2: it is. I just these are people calling me, smooth brain.
Speaker 2: He will Yeah, he will win MVP. I mean, they
Speaker 2: would have to go sixteen.
Speaker 1: Now, it's just the context of why number nine is
Speaker 1: the reason why he won't win MVP.
Speaker 2: Like, no one's looking.
Speaker 1: At us like JG's He's one fucking making this offense.
Speaker 2: Bary Gibs would win MVP before Jared Goff if the
Speaker 2: Lions were that good, more than likely. And that's what
Speaker 2: they being a quarterback award. Yeah, I don't know. JJ
Speaker 2: might get over you made.
Speaker 1: I don't think JJ want to fucking sniff it.
Speaker 2: I maybe you're a top three. If Matt Ryan can
Speaker 2: win the MVP, Jared Goff can win the MVP, I'll stay,
Speaker 2: I'll stay. I'll stay on that. I'm not a Matt
Speaker 2: Ryan guy. I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 2: But that was a down year. The Lions would have
Speaker 2: to go like fifteen and one because Jared Goff. Jared
Speaker 2: Goff would have to yet they'd have to win. They'd
Speaker 2: have to have by far the best record in the NFL,
Speaker 2: and Jared Goff would have to lead the NFL in
Speaker 2: like yards and touchdowns. They'll only have like eight interceptions
Speaker 2: if they wanted to win MVP. He won MVP in
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen and really wasn't that good. Like his stats
Speaker 2: weren't great. It was just the Falcons were the number
Speaker 2: one team in the league. But do you think that
Speaker 2: the media learned their lesson from that one?
Speaker 1: He had thirty eight touchdowns to seven interceptions, But it
Speaker 1: was a down year for a competitive vie to like
Speaker 1: who I think that's Brady was suspended that year? I
Speaker 1: think so too, And then remember he came back. He
Speaker 1: was fucking Brady was on one when he came back
Speaker 1: from that subvention.
Speaker 2: That was fucking nuts. I'm just wondering who was the
Speaker 2: wide receiver? It was Ridley? Then, no, it was well,
Speaker 2: it might have been Ridley, Julio and Ridley twenty sixteen
Speaker 2: Falcons pulling it up right now? Second leader?
Speaker 1: Was it not still right? No? Wait, that was a
Speaker 1: Mohammed Sanu Maybe yep, that's deserving of something like Okay, okay, difference.
Speaker 2: Here, Austin Hooper is the tight end. Tight end was
Speaker 2: Austin Hooper. We all knew that, though. Yeah, we all
Speaker 2: knew that. Davante Levante to Smith and Tevin Coleman as
Speaker 2: the running backs. That's way different. Sweet team, Yeah, good team.
Speaker 2: We're winmer stacked though. Yeah, I think better than Rogers
Speaker 2: for sure. Who was the top of the top for sure.
Speaker 1: I'm saying like, when you have a we got he
Speaker 1: ain't gonna get no m v P.
Speaker 2: Brother. Yeah, that's true. Theyre gonna tell you were carried.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: Unless you're doing like fucking Josh Allen stuff. That guy's
Speaker 1: a fucking freaking by the way, he was number one
Speaker 1: on that list. I saw it summerly though. A Buka
Speaker 1: Corey game too. We guys sweat bolts a little bit
Speaker 1: because we went we went full slappy with it on Friday.
Speaker 2: Why do we talk about Abuka? Okay, you had a
Speaker 2: tough game this game too? Did he get very well?
Speaker 2: I saw a couple a couple uh nice plays that
Speaker 2: I like to see, where he was drawing in the defense,
Speaker 2: making nice dribble moves to getting in the lane and
Speaker 2: kicking it out to wide open shooters. He still has
Speaker 2: some great finishes in the second game too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just the part that was surprising me with the turnovers.
Speaker 1: He has some sloppy turnovers, was like he's fucking like
Speaker 1: throwing a halfway across woll.
Speaker 2: I didn't see that in the Stanford film. Yeah, what
Speaker 2: the fucking happened there? Brother?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that part and steels that part kind so seven steals.
Speaker 7: I watched that specifically because I was actually out with
Speaker 7: my family. Well that game was happening to shout out.
Speaker 7: So I went back and I went back and I
Speaker 7: watched all of his highlights and literally all seven of
Speaker 7: his steals were not NBA steals in my opinion, agree,
Speaker 7: like four of them were Summer League passes, and then
Speaker 7: the three that he poked out that dude, I don't
Speaker 7: know who that dude was.
Speaker 2: But he did not have NBA handle Like. It was
Speaker 2: just it was just Look.
Speaker 7: It's exciting though, because if Abuka can become some type
Speaker 7: of stocks turnover machine that can that can kind of
Speaker 7: help offset the fact that he is going to be
Speaker 7: a defensive target, and that is something that is that
Speaker 7: is the only thing that probably knocked him from being
Speaker 7: a top you know, a for sure lottery pick, if
Speaker 7: not top ten in this draft class. So to me,
Speaker 7: I would say that the steals don't buy them. It
Speaker 7: was a lot of Summer League for gay Zy bullshit,
Speaker 7: you know, dribbling off foot, bad passes, all that stuff.
Speaker 2: That he was the benefactor of the turnovers? How many
Speaker 2: you end up finishing with in game two? Do you remember?
Speaker 2: I know I watched to myself. I believe three in
Speaker 2: this game.
Speaker 7: So he has he had turnovers for this game yes
Speaker 7: last or the game against the Cavs yesterday he had three,
Speaker 7: and I'll check.
Speaker 2: With you today.
Speaker 7: So yeah, so not but not bad though, because each
Speaker 7: time you had more assistant turnovers, so he.
Speaker 2: Still had a positive ratio.
Speaker 7: And I'm gonna chalk that up the same way I'm
Speaker 7: chalking up I'm kind of like discounting the steals. I'm
Speaker 7: also going to i'd have to rewatch them, but I
Speaker 7: also kind of put some discount in turnovers too, because
Speaker 7: you're playing with guys that you don't have a feel for,
Speaker 7: you don't have you haven't practiced with a lot. There
Speaker 7: was one where Lily, yeah, I gotta I do got
Speaker 7: to rewatch to make sure. But I think that part
Speaker 7: of that is the just the mad of summer league.
Speaker 7: It's it's unorganized, it's it's kind of pick up basketball.
Speaker 7: That's why it's so hard to tell who's going to
Speaker 7: translate to the next level.
Speaker 2: I do they agreed one hundred percent, Chris. When you're
Speaker 2: talking about like sets and running offense efficiently and stuff
Speaker 2: like that, that's not what you look at for summer league.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at NBA moves, NBA shot making, NBA decision making.
Speaker 2: And I saw him have a very nice hesitation dribble
Speaker 2: at the top of the three point line, get into
Speaker 2: the lane and kick it out to chansl near for
Speaker 2: a wide open three. It was a great move and
Speaker 2: a great assist. So that stuff that he's gonna have
Speaker 2: to do. And when you know, coming off of the
Speaker 2: bench for the Pistons, which is probably gonna be doing,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have shooters now, so he's gonna have guys
Speaker 2: that can knock down outside shots. And if he can
Speaker 2: get into the lane and draw the defense, uh, he's
Speaker 2: gonna have So he's gonna have some success. So I
Speaker 2: like what I've seen out of him so far. They
Speaker 2: haven't really asked him to try to take over offensively,
Speaker 2: which like you talked about it in times that he did.
Speaker 1: Though, like the finish he was there, and the one
Speaker 1: thing I asked for specifically Friday was like, I'll see
Speaker 1: with the right let's see what the I feel like
Speaker 1: he must have been fucking listening because he had. I
Speaker 1: had a lefty finishes and some man ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna see that stuff.
Speaker 1: And you know the contact contact part too, yes, like
Speaker 1: through the contact getting the call. There was one where
Speaker 1: we didn't get a call. I think he could have
Speaker 1: got one there too, was like, that's why I've expected
Speaker 1: of him. Like the turnovers, obviously, you don't love to
Speaker 1: see that. The two that I saw, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that was That's what you expect to see. Have a
Speaker 1: rookie year guy. I only played one year point guard,
Speaker 1: jumping up a level to the NBA Summer League and
Speaker 1: even though it' still the summer league, expect some of that.
Speaker 1: But the finishing is like where what I what I
Speaker 1: bought you for? You know what we invested in when
Speaker 1: we were traded up to get that pick, and I
Speaker 1: saw that, So that's what I'm looking for it's crazy
Speaker 1: to say it like.
Speaker 7: That, Yeah, because that was like the one thing that
Speaker 7: was like a knock on his tape too, But that
Speaker 7: was also to say it. But I think, yes, I
Speaker 7: think you have to be overall encouraged. I mean, look,
Speaker 7: you have guys like Darius A. Cuff that were at
Speaker 7: the top of the draft that everybody was fawning over
Speaker 7: myself included going nine for twenty nine and games, So
Speaker 7: you can't look at the shooting performances. Yeah, some people
Speaker 7: might put up tour dates in that, but that happens
Speaker 7: a lot. Trey Young did that, you know, a Lonzo
Speaker 7: Ball did that. Like, there's a lot of there's a
Speaker 7: lot of players that went on to have great NBA
Speaker 7: success that have had bad shooting performances in the summer League.
Speaker 2: Chas Lanier one of them. I was gonna say, speaking
Speaker 2: of shooting, Chaslanier has fifteen three pointers in the last
Speaker 2: two games.
Speaker 7: Averaging twenty four and a half points per game. Did
Speaker 7: Cade find his Robin.
Speaker 2: Could be starting starting two hard chas Lanier.
Speaker 7: I want to say this because my whole thing I
Speaker 7: was saying with him was that I just believe that
Speaker 7: that guy is capable of being an NBA role player.
Speaker 7: I understand that in this in this team, with the depth,
Speaker 7: with the with the people that you have over him,
Speaker 7: you're not giving chas Lanier minutes per se.
Speaker 2: But I just think that that's a player that I.
Speaker 7: Could see being a being a you know, marksman off
Speaker 7: the bench for a team. Hell if Gary Trekk could
Speaker 7: get sixty four million dollars, yeah, then then then chas
Speaker 7: Lanier for nine million over four years is an absolute steal.
Speaker 7: Best contract in the league.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Honestly, the Garry Trent just like eight.
Speaker 7: Like they have to invest I saw that the NBA
Speaker 7: can actually investigate that, and I'm like, no, the punishment
Speaker 7: should just be you have to pay that contract.
Speaker 2: You just got Carry Trent for sixty four million dollars.
Speaker 2: That's your punishment.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like what's like what You're just gonna avoid them
Speaker 7: of that contract and bail them out of that.
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. Chat You guys got to relax, man, you
Speaker 2: guys are aggressive. I don't know, I've just been seeing
Speaker 2: in fighting. Bro Listen, we like to keep clean chat room,
Speaker 2: all right, Yeah, no fighting, just just be respected, no fight, no.
Speaker 3: Name calling, no fighting, no fighting.
Speaker 2: Dumb bitches, stupid fucking wars. Where we are? We got
Speaker 2: a break?
Speaker 4: What's been your guys biggest takeaway of the Summer League?
Speaker 4: Is it obviously the back to back kind of game
Speaker 4: struggling or is it chas.
Speaker 1: Luc book and finished book and finishing?
Speaker 2: For me, that's yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't get to watch this game obviously because we've
Speaker 1: been doing the show and prepping for the show.
Speaker 2: Why not.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it started their the day, but
Speaker 1: but the chats like him shooting is like, I think
Speaker 1: it could be a little bit more of a conversation
Speaker 1: than we're leading on is because like it's kind.
Speaker 2: Of Tim Duncan Robinson. Is that almost like Tim Robinson?
Speaker 1: Hey, he could do a little bit more than that
Speaker 1: with the passing and you know whatnot like sure about that,
Speaker 1: but like that's a guy that could fit with Kkun,
Speaker 1: Like you can put him on the floor if you
Speaker 1: can shoot, if you get open shoot, all right, we can.
Speaker 2: Put on the floor with Kate.
Speaker 1: So I think there's a little bit more to that
Speaker 1: and Summer League defense versus NBA defense, But the same
Speaker 1: could be said with the hype I'm given.
Speaker 2: But he's got a pure as shot dude and a
Speaker 2: quick trigger too.
Speaker 7: That's what you like about it too, Like he's one
Speaker 7: of those like he just green light.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's I just never bought in with
Speaker 1: him because of the age.
Speaker 2: That's fair. That's fair. But you could shoot, like brother,
Speaker 2: you gotta you could. But you know, team, I believe that.
Speaker 7: I believe that if you're coming into the NBA, even
Speaker 7: at like twenty two, twenty three years old, you could
Speaker 7: still carve out as a role player. And that's all
Speaker 7: I ever expected them to be, you know, That's all
Speaker 7: I ever expected him to be in this league. But yeah,
Speaker 7: I think the biggest takeaway for me personally pissed the
Speaker 7: summer league is that Abuka just looks like the real deal,
Speaker 7: Like this guy I don't know, Like, I just continue
Speaker 7: to have confidence in him being a potentially twenty point
Speaker 7: per game score on his rookie contract at some point,
Speaker 7: I think he's that good thirteen three, thirteen and three
Speaker 7: look that I thirteen three. I kind of push back
Speaker 7: on that first, I think I think I might be
Speaker 7: wrong on that. I think I might be wrong on that.
Speaker 7: He's shown everything the versatility.
Speaker 1: Uh oh for from three today for Corey, Yeah, but again,
Speaker 1: I didn't watch any of the context he creates by
Speaker 1: himself for the fucking last minute chocolack.
Speaker 2: I don't like that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, so I will watch back tonight in
Speaker 1: the third game three. But I'm still impressed with Buka Corey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there's still people arguing back that uh, jay NY's better.
Speaker 2: I just let you guys know it's in there and
Speaker 2: that he's that he's Marcus Sassar's evil twin or.
Speaker 7: Some shit like here, dude, like crazy the truth, you
Speaker 7: guys are gonna you guys are gonna see.
Speaker 2: I think he's really really good.
Speaker 1: I think it's too easy for people to have opinions
Speaker 1: on basketball like with football.
Speaker 2: This one. No, I'm just serious.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like you watch it, went didn't or
Speaker 1: don't always good or football. There's some complexity a little
Speaker 1: bit behind it. I'm saying, between the play calling and whatnot.
Speaker 1: Like basketball, you can just say whatever, and you can
Speaker 1: have to sit to back it up with whatever.
Speaker 2: Too, because it's like he scored that many points.
Speaker 1: So I'm right, all right, dude, Well, I have to
Speaker 1: go back and look at j Navy Summer League performance
Speaker 1: and get a year one two, though, did.
Speaker 2: He miss a couple of games to begin with? I
Speaker 2: thin you can play the first one that missed a few.
Speaker 2: I don't know. You may be right, I don't know.
Speaker 1: The only Chazz in Detroit sports is Chazz Batch. My
Speaker 1: Batch Jersey goes hard. Twenty years later, Adam from the
Speaker 1: d shout out to Chazz. I think about Charlie Betch.
Speaker 1: Yeah I got him, Chazz.
Speaker 3: Probably.
Speaker 7: I gotta lock in on the tape about the second
Speaker 7: about the second round pick, though I haven't because I
Speaker 7: said I missed last game today. Yeah, I missed most
Speaker 7: of today's game, and then I also missed out some
Speaker 7: word last game.
Speaker 2: Because the family.
Speaker 7: But he looked he looked good stat line wise, and yeah,
Speaker 7: game two yesterday, So I gotta I gotta watch the tape.
Speaker 1: Fun fact, my very first memorable Madden loss. I'm sure
Speaker 1: I had one before, but against my friend's dad, shout Tony.
Speaker 2: We were playing to oz Lions. I was a dog
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I just was really good at Mad.
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Speaker 1: I'm talking tournaments and everything could have been it. I
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Speaker 2: They grown ass man, Oh you fuck now? You know.
Speaker 2: Charlie Badge comes in.
Speaker 1: He fucking worked me and it was giving me the
Speaker 1: history of lesson on Charlie Batche Detroit Liane the entire time.
Speaker 2: I fucking hated it. Shout Tony.
Speaker 4: But yeah, fun fact, all right, break all right, I
Speaker 4: got six by bj ROGI one time completely had money
Speaker 4: on the game.
Speaker 2: I think I've had that happen to be too for
Speaker 2: that was a glitch or something. It must have been.
Speaker 2: It must have been a Madden glitch.
Speaker 4: There was money on the game. And then my other
Speaker 4: friend goes, bj show me what you never forget.
Speaker 2: There was a basketball game back in the day.
Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was, but the creator was
Speaker 1: a Pistons fan and he put NBA jam NBA jam.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: He put code in it that if there was the
Speaker 1: last final minute, Michael Jordan versus pisses he missed every shot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I felt like that was a that's something like that
Speaker 1: with bej rodging that in that Matt because remember him
Speaker 1: whooping some mass on me too with an interception.
Speaker 2: My two uh two craziest walkoffs. I hit a walk
Speaker 2: off like full court hail Mary with Jared Jack. It
Speaker 2: was like got the rebound off of a miss free
Speaker 2: throw cush shout out coach Jared Jack. And a walk
Speaker 2: off mid range jumper with Kendrick Perkins. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: My friend walked home after that. Yeah, I would have
Speaker 2: been on watch. That was a good one. Dial the number.
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Speaker 1: story time you guys? You guys like story time. I
Speaker 1: thought of one today that I know I'll tell. If
Speaker 1: that's what they want, I'll put a pull up. It's
Speaker 1: a fairly recent one. Actually, I'll just tell it.
Speaker 2: Sounds like you just want to tell the story, Yep,
Speaker 2: I do, all right, everybody. You ever have a campfire
Speaker 2: one time? No?
Speaker 1: H I got a friend in Mike harrisbe Maybe some
Speaker 1: of you guys know him. He's a fucking he's a clown.
Speaker 1: You see him on the streets of Mount Clemmons. Hilarious guy.
Speaker 1: And I've always wanted to meet Spinning and come by
Speaker 1: the show because I want him to be our original
Speaker 1: sound guy. But he's just he's making like too much money,
Speaker 1: so whatever, fucking funny guy, he'll say whatever. He's crazy
Speaker 1: as fuck. So I told him like he's coming to
Speaker 1: the opening day party, gave some passes whatever, and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: you meet Spinny. You gotta funk with him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, he went to center line and he
Speaker 1: was a swimmer. So him and Spinning bumped up to
Speaker 1: each other like dur An opening Day this past year,
Speaker 1: and he's like, yo, you went.
Speaker 2: To ciner line, right, And so he's like, yeah, you swim.
Speaker 2: So he's like yeah, He's like, you had that weird
Speaker 2: dick right. He was like wait what Yeah, yeah, you're
Speaker 2: the guy, the weird dick. Right.
Speaker 1: He's trying to lead him on too, in the succession
Speaker 1: of saying yeah, like.
Speaker 2: Wait what regular dick game, regular game, regularly having a
Speaker 2: good dictator today, you know, woke up swanging pretty good.
Speaker 2: Thanks man. Just in case you're wondering, like you said, thanks,
Speaker 2: thanks man. A good hair day. Yeah yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 2: was like, I was hammered, d You're the one with
Speaker 2: a weird day.
Speaker 1: I saw us when he hit the mister crabs me
Speaker 1: even in real life. He was like, that was funny.
Speaker 2: Shot the Mike Harris. I'm have to get him up
Speaker 2: here one time. Shot mayould do.
Speaker 1: A food review with him. He's a big foodie, that
Speaker 1: motherfucking cook. All right, your urn for first story, because
Speaker 1: only any mail bags.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like most of my stories
Speaker 2: just involved Darius and I don't want to do them that.
Speaker 2: You don't you have to give his name out. But
Speaker 2: now you already talks about you remember your first sack
Speaker 2: middle school or high school? My first sack? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was the pastor of my youth ministry. It was
Speaker 2: in middle school at some point. I don't I don't really,
Speaker 2: it doesn't really stand out. Probably just one of those
Speaker 2: like stumbled into it type of things. What was your
Speaker 2: best game ever? Probably New Haven my uh senior year
Speaker 2: at four sacks in the first half. Hell yeah, that's
Speaker 2: pretty sweet. We lost, but I was due. I was
Speaker 2: freaking out. I was screaming at halftime, like what the
Speaker 2: fuck are we doing? Because we were down, like we
Speaker 2: were down like two scores. Like now my three secon
Speaker 2: game you lost year. I have told that story.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They fucking they coached me up real good. They fucking
Speaker 2: got my dumbass chasing go up his gap.
Speaker 1: He's fucking running up field every time. Uh, spinning easy
Speaker 1: and Nick and Chris my brothers from another mother. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on speculation about Connor possibly switching back
Speaker 1: to boxing to fight Floyd once more.
Speaker 2: That sounds like the ultimate money grab by the UFC.
Speaker 2: Floyd needs them. I watch, Yes, Yeah, I wouldn't even watch.
Speaker 3: I would watch.
Speaker 1: I probably would watch, But it's like, we saw what
Speaker 1: happened the first time. Why do we need to see
Speaker 1: it was such a dominant performance. Do we need to
Speaker 1: see a fucking reimagine it? I mean, what the I mean?
Speaker 2: Ray Guitardo's says Spencer is the only lineman I've ever
Speaker 2: heard of swimming. Yeah, I was the only fat guy
Speaker 2: at States.
Speaker 1: I did hear about the offensive line coach and try
Speaker 1: to gets me to go to wrestle shout out Dave
Speaker 1: that he's a fucking demon who reps four fifteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's uh, he's one of the most impressive physical
Speaker 2: specimens I've ever seen him my entire life. Like my
Speaker 2: he was the offensive line coach at our high school.
Speaker 2: He was the wrestling coach. He's like I would say,
Speaker 2: probably six five six six, probably like three hundred fifteen,
Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty pounds, the fastest human being I've
Speaker 2: ever seen in my life, Like he was hawking down
Speaker 2: like our running backs at because we would just we
Speaker 2: would fuck with him, like because he's literally like an
Speaker 2: ogre like, so it'd be like, yeah, like the six
Speaker 2: of us offensive linemen and like the two like running
Speaker 2: backs that were wrestlers that would you know, fuck with
Speaker 2: him too because they knew him like that. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: so we'd like rock up to him. One of us
Speaker 2: would just blindside push him, and then somebody else would
Speaker 2: come in and shoulder him, and then we'd all just scatter.
Speaker 2: He's hawking people down, dude, grabbing you buy your shoulder pads,
Speaker 2: throwing fucking three hundred pounds offensive lineman ten yards.
Speaker 1: I met a guy Friday who said he hit his
Speaker 1: PR four fifteen. Yeah, and he said, Dave came into
Speaker 1: the locker room laughing, sat down, and.
Speaker 2: Yet, dude, he's a freaking He's a freak Dave. That's
Speaker 2: my guy mail bag.
Speaker 1: How fast will be the switch up if the Tigers
Speaker 1: make the playoffs?
Speaker 2: Oh? You know it?
Speaker 1: I'd had to ask what were tigers? Guy, because they
Speaker 1: always talked Tigers. I know it's during that win streak,
Speaker 1: not so much.
Speaker 4: I felt bad for Maz on that first day that
Speaker 4: he was in I was able to tune in for
Speaker 4: about fifteen minutes. Holy hell, they were attacking ass like
Speaker 4: I've never seen. Like he was a wild animal in there,
Speaker 4: just yelling at Mass making him trying to trying to
Speaker 4: fool Mas because he had some hope, he had a
Speaker 4: little positivity, he had a little optimism, and he was
Speaker 4: getting clowned.
Speaker 3: He was getting cooked.
Speaker 4: Well. Mas was right for the start of it when
Speaker 4: they won four straight games to start the home stand. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and win six games in a row in nine of ten.
Speaker 4: I do think this Detroit Tiger team is gonna get
Speaker 4: closer to five hun before the deadline, maybe even hit
Speaker 4: five hundred before the deadline, and then.
Speaker 3: We'll see what they do.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean it sucks they lost to you
Speaker 4: know Cy Young, contending Sanchez and you know Wheeler. But
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, this Detroit Tigers team
Speaker 4: is playing really good baseball. They have a really good
Speaker 4: pitching staff, and they have some guys that are coming
Speaker 4: into their own and Glabor Torres is getting healthy. I'm
Speaker 4: not counting this team out at all. And we know
Speaker 4: this is the worst American League of all time, and
Speaker 4: you want to say, oh, the Yankees are a powerhouse.
Speaker 4: The Yankees also have Max Freed, who notoriously chokes in
Speaker 4: the playoffs. And who is the best player that always
Speaker 4: chokes in the playoffs? Aaron Judge, Who do they play for?
Speaker 4: The New York Yankees? So, like, I don't want to
Speaker 4: hear it. You saw what happened with Schlitler when the
Speaker 4: Tigers played up took him for like six runs in
Speaker 4: the first inning.
Speaker 3: We like Shitler exactly, So I don't want to.
Speaker 4: I just think like people are overly one way or
Speaker 4: another with this Detroit Tiger team, Like let it play out.
Speaker 4: When they play well, talk about how they're playing well,
Speaker 4: how are they doing it? Just like there and if
Speaker 4: they're playing bad, let's talk about how they're losing games.
Speaker 4: But it seems like everybody is so decisive on one
Speaker 4: like one side or the other.
Speaker 1: And literally happened to were screamings like what side. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you guys are arguing, You arguing yourself, like you scream
Speaker 1: all the time, and you argue he was screaming, and
Speaker 1: neither you had. It's like up in the air right now.
Speaker 1: The Tigers KG because I don't even KG because he
Speaker 1: has because he has Nelon Sean who influencial guys, and
Speaker 1: they were losing. He's got that mindset like the tigers
Speaker 1: are cooked, they're done whatever. And then Boomers, you know, positivity.
Speaker 1: He was like, you can't say that, and I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, it's exactly what Nick saying. Just you gotta watch
Speaker 2: it fall out. I love how Boomers says, you can't
Speaker 2: say that to everybody. They all say, they all say it.
Speaker 1: I was dying, like you can't just yew me to
Speaker 1: win an argument. That's I love you, Boon, that's and
Speaker 1: you know that. Yeah, that's what you do. Super chat
Speaker 1: real quick though from showtime tape, got the dogs shout
Speaker 1: out easy, legendary, mighty drop on Lindsay lmao, Yeah, piece
Speaker 1: of guys, piece of shit, Evan Foster's mail bag, Lindsay.
Speaker 2: Graham, Oh yeah, I don't know the mail bag.
Speaker 1: Do you think we made a good decision on Corey
Speaker 1: at pick seventeen, at what was left at that point
Speaker 1: in the draft.
Speaker 2: I think it was a hell of a pick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it took me minute to you know, get over
Speaker 1: us not trading it to go grab kid number two.
Speaker 1: But I think draft wise grabbing that kid at seventeen
Speaker 1: was a steal. I think he's better than Ivy and
Speaker 1: you got Ivy at five and it's a home run. Yeah,
Speaker 1: mill bag.
Speaker 2: Who is the tightest.
Speaker 1: Sneaker game at Woodward at Spencer Morgan, Reaxster, Yeah, far
Speaker 1: by a mile.
Speaker 2: Braylan Braylan too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Fellas, I got a spicy Speaking of whole first
Speaker 4: round pick, yeah, I got his spending in that race.
Speaker 3: I don't see Braylan enough to see his shoes.
Speaker 2: But yeah, got a shoe game for sure.
Speaker 4: Speaking of first round picks, the Tigers took a right
Speaker 4: handed pitcher out of Coastal Carolina. Fluky, lookout for the
Speaker 4: article tomorrow. I got it over to kool aid. Uncle
Speaker 4: Terry was off the phones today. I was trying to
Speaker 4: blow them up a little bit, but article coming out.
Speaker 4: But I had a little bit of a sneak peek
Speaker 4: that what you could see in this article. If we
Speaker 4: could play that from a question real quick, Fellas, Yeah,
Speaker 4: all right, play this is camera Fluki first round pick
Speaker 4: Detroit Tigre. Aspect of your game that you take pride
Speaker 4: in and what is one part of your game you
Speaker 4: want to work on a little bit more as you
Speaker 4: enter the minor leagues with the Detroit Tigers.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think one thing I take pride in is
Speaker 14: my mental game. I'm very focused in my mental game.
Speaker 14: Past two years, I've dug really deep in and especially
Speaker 14: this past year we're had a little bit more off
Speaker 14: time in season because of the injury. Obviously, I dug
Speaker 14: really deep into the mental game, all the routines I
Speaker 14: have on the mound, building my day out, stuff like that.
Speaker 14: And then one thing I'd like to develop is probably
Speaker 14: one weight gain. I think I have twenty more pounds
Speaker 14: to put on and it could help me throw harder,
Speaker 14: kind of have pretty much make everything that I throw better.
Speaker 14: I think that's that's a big thing.
Speaker 3: What's the biggest shout out?
Speaker 2: Shout out? We got a chat in there from uh
Speaker 2: Jesse Woodward. He says, when's the next wilburd Wings stream
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Speaker 1: Xavier D did I'm missing thing. I think the first
Speaker 1: segment now where you open the intro, but like I
Speaker 1: mean the intro is pretty funny. Yeah, Andrel's pretty good.
Speaker 1: But the Mike Clay, there's the ESPN guy that got
Speaker 1: got and he had a coming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you's he wants to dark cash. I want Mayweather
Speaker 2: McGregor fight with MMA rules. No, nobody wants that. Would
Speaker 2: I would take that over the boxing match. It would
Speaker 2: be just as one sided, though, I would give it
Speaker 2: to me. Pause. Hey, but I mean McGregor kind of washed,
Speaker 2: not that washed. He would literally just have to walk
Speaker 2: up to he can't walk. He's hurt him so I
Speaker 2: can't walk, I think, and that was how he would
Speaker 2: be see Floyd Wether get his ass whooped. Even in
Speaker 2: this scenario, I think Connor McGregor would beat Floyd Mayweather
Speaker 2: and an MMA fight if he had his broken leg. Yeah,
Speaker 2: probably like he would just literally if he grabbed him,
Speaker 2: it'd be over.
Speaker 1: I think it'd be funner or I don't know how
Speaker 1: long that would last, could probably fall off.
Speaker 2: But even blindfold Connor, you know that I'm down to see.
Speaker 1: Get his ass kicking in any circumstance. To be honest
Speaker 1: with any man that hits a woman, and Deron to
Speaker 1: Day was included, I think I'd love to see those guys.
Speaker 2: In the min matches, let it happened.
Speaker 1: They won't do it though, so they only fight women
Speaker 1: in M matches, not men.
Speaker 2: Oh well, that'll do it for us today. Appreciate you
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