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Speaker 2: By I am the other hosts, Frog, Fucker Batzer.
Speaker 1: Yes, we are here because this is the finale two
Creature Commandos. It's been a heck of a journey, but
here we are. Episode seven. We're gonna get into our
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let's get into this. So, Kirkland, how did you feel
about this finale of Creature Commandos? Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the finale of Creature Comandos. It's crazy, we're already here.
Speaker 3: This feels it feels like one of the fastest shows
of weekly reviews that we've done. Like well, of course
we've done Binge Models or we released just you know,
a full season review in one single episode, but for
going week to week, this one really.
Speaker 2: Just feels like we just started it.
Speaker 3: And I think that I think that's due to the
fact of how much I've actually enjoyed it. And in
terms of a finale, I don't think this was my
favorite episode of the season, probably not even my second
favorite episode, but I think this was a really really
solid finale for what the show was. I think they yeah,
they like they they ended off our main, our main uh.
I guess quest of the season, but really left things
in a certain direction to just allow us to pick
up really easily in season two and not like, I
don't know, not like a big jaw drop cliffhanger of
a you know, leading into another season, but just enough
of like, Okay, yeah, we're gonna be building upon what
we built, what we started here in season one, and
expect more the same, you know for and like that's
not a negative to just like they're going to keep
it in the same.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't want to say too much without you know,
spoiling anything, but I I'm just gonna say I really
like this season and yeah, no, I think it's a
solid finale. I think the character backstory stuff that we
jumped into in this episode was pretty sad and yeah,
I ended up liking it, but also showed some like
stakes I would say in this episode. Yeah, I really
don't think any character is fully safe in this show anymore,
especially after this finale, so I think I'll just leave
it there.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: Actually, the last thing I'll say is I love the
music choices that they have throughout this whole show, like
the like the songs that they pull like copyrighted music.
I really like the individual song choices of them. Yeah, no,
I think it's I think it's an awesome show. I
recommend it to everyone. It's a really easy watch as well.
Like I think this one was a longer episode compared
to the others, over thirty minutes for sure.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's good stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd recommend this show as well. I mean, if
you're juggling between this and what if, the answer is clear,
you gotta go creat your commandos unless you're you shouldn't
be watching this if your little kid. This is a
very inappropriate show, but stick to it from the front. Yeah,
but I think that this show, it definitely, it hits
pretty pretty hard. I think it's great, and it's tackling
a lot of really sad narratives, especially like you hinted at,
this episode is no exclusion to that note. It was
very very sad. There are some things I'm thinking, like, man,
I just don't want to be seeing this, But it's
an engaging story and it's I don't know if it's
really making me feel more connected to these characters. I'm
sure it does for the majority of the viewers because
they're diving into the backstory of some of these characters,
and it creates that gateway to connect with them. But
for me, it doesn't really necessarily necessarily I just kind
of pity them more so than I am connecting with them.
But it's cool to learn where they come from in
a within a half an hour period. I think it's
pretty good storytelling this episode. I would agree with you.
It's not my number one, not my number two, but
probably i'd say least top five. I'm not sure if
it's number three, but it's in the top five of
these episodes. So yeah, I think that this ends in
a really fun way, but it it has elements of
being rushed that I didn't really kind of enjoy. I
feel like we could have done one more episode about it,
because there's a few things that we didn't really get
to see wrapped up properly in this. It just it
just felt way too way too rush, just way too
like okay, from point A to point B to point C,
never jumping a point F, G, H and then to Z.
Like it it was accelerating too much. But that being said,
it is what it is. Yeah, there's nothing else I
can really highlight without going into spoilers, but yeah, just
you said it, like you can't. You don't really know
who is safe in these shows. If with the exception
of your being shot gun, then you're definitely always I
would say.
Speaker 3: Well, your character might die, but the spirit of Sean
Guhn will forever live on into another character.
Speaker 1: That's right, That's right. So yeah, I think I think
that does it. We can get into some spoilers here
now if you dare to do so, so go if
you haven't seen the episode, go watch them come back,
because we're going to get into it. Three two one.
We're in spoiler territory.
Speaker 2: Now territory, Where do you want?
Speaker 1: Where do you want to start?
Speaker 3: Big spoiler warning you know, double emphasis spoilers, spoiler spoilers.
G I Robot Taylor, he's back. We knew he was
gonna come back. I was so happy when he showed
up all jacked, looking like the Iron Giant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, drinking his motor oil.
Speaker 3: But it's funny because when Nina got fucking shanked in
that river, very brutal death.
Speaker 2: You know we'll get there.
Speaker 3: But when she died, the first thing I saw I
thought of, like even even before, like, oh that sucks
that we lost that character. First thing I thought of him, like, man,
we're not getting Gi Robot, like they're actually just killing
these these characters off. So because I thought that, then,
of course a few minutes later we get to see
him sipping his motor oil.
Speaker 2: I was so pumped. I'm like, oh, yeah, let's go
for season two. I'm so hyped.
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, I know I jumped to the end there,
but I was just I was just so excited to
see Gi Robot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was very very happy he's back, and that
gave me hope that maybe we'd see Nina as well.
But no, Nina is definitely she.
Speaker 2: Is sushi by the time the next season comes out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, She's She's sushi for sure, which which sucks. I
feel like, Okay, James Gunn likes to just introduce these
characters and then kills them off like he did with
the Suicide Squad, and again here he's killing these characters off,
but then he brings back like Frankenstein, which I don't like.
I really was thinking, Okay, we're gonna be getting a
little bit more of a setup here because Franken Sin's
finally got to the finale, He's gonna see the bride
and we're gonna see something, but he just pope set
open through the window. He's like my bride, and then
she just shoots him and then he's like rick flag
and she just like executes him. You didn't like that, No,
I was thinking, like I didn't find it funny. I
just like it would have been nice to get some context.
But yeah, she's just like you, stalking like dead bastard
and shoots him in the head. See.
Speaker 3: I think that's why I loved it so much, was
like there's such a build up of it. He's so like, yeah,
he's such like he's just building up the moment and
romanticizing what this is eventually going to be like, because
he's just saying how in love with him she is
to get to the point where like he finally locks
eyes with her and then just shoots him dead like
right then and there, as if he's just like a
fly because he's been doing this for centuries now, right, so,
and he's.
Speaker 2: Never gonna stop.
Speaker 3: And I'm totally down for next season just something similar,
maybe a little bit different, but uh yeah, I was
down for how it ended.
Speaker 2: At least I was chuckling, And I.
Speaker 3: Feel like that character I never think is gonna die
just because of what he is, Like he seems like
a pretty immortal being like Frank and Bride I imagine,
or I guess she's not called that.
Speaker 2: The Bride Frank.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I didn't really think that he was gonna
be dead like after the season after she shot him there,
but uh, and then with Gi Robot, like, of course
we assumed he was gonna be back because he's a
robot that can remake him. But for someone like Nina,
there's just nothing really like shown in her skill, you know,
power set that she can regenerate that easily. Maybe I'll
be surprised, but for how it ended with the just
showing off the new crew, I really think that she's gone,
and I'm okay with that. I feel like out of everyone,
she was definitely the one that stood out the most
for being maybe like the most innocent character out of
all of them, and she just stood there like the
battles would happen and she just stood there nothing, Yeah,
will come out of it, Yeah exactly. I don't need
that again for season two. I'm totally down for I
don't know, seeing this like gargoyle looking lady with the
wings or who else did we get?
Speaker 2: We got Shark.
Speaker 1: In there about the room you're talking about the room, Yeah,
King Sharks, King.
Speaker 3: Shark, Yes, we had we had King Shark obviously, doctor Fosphorus,
the Yeah, the Winged Lady whatever whatever her name is,
g I Robot Weasel, of course, and there was there
was one other one I thought, unless I'm missing two
other ones, I can't remember. But anyways, I'm I'm down
for just the include, especially someone like King Shark. I
feel like with the the wild crew that we have here,
I'm totally down to see that character pop off.
Speaker 1: That's how you know Nina is definitely not coming back.
There's only room for one feature.
Speaker 2: Exactly, team for underwater assassinations. They have King Shark. Who Yeah, up,
it would be a lot more effective. Anyways, h.
Speaker 1: How did you feel about the whole unraveling that Bride
did where she figured out that oh my goodness, oh
at the very end, Pokalistan, Yeah, was basically trying to
start a World War three. It was weird how it
counteracted because like Sirce, they had circ kind of set
up to kill her. It was all staged.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wasn't really a big fan of it. But
I feel like throughout the whole adventure of the season,
that was never like the thing that was gripping me
into the show the most. Like I was really in
it for the characters and the comedy I think around
it as well as the action and violence more so
than like what's gonna happen with this country and are.
Speaker 2: They actually gonna go to World War three?
Speaker 3: Like I feel like that was definitely not like I
wasn't interested in it, but yeah, it just wasn't at
the front of my priority list when it comes to
how I'm great in the show. And because of how
she just like goes in there and like lays out
all these things like yeah, you were working with this person.
I saw the tapes. I was just like, yeah, okay,
and then she shoots her. I was like, yeah, okay.
It really just like doubles down on how bad ass
the Bride is. I guess to have her shoot her
in that moment. And I did like how she was
talking about Nina of being like that one innocent person
that like, you know, really maybe maybe the Bride was
so bitter and like hating the world that like Nina
was able to kind of show her a different light
or a different perspective on the world, and I'm hoping
maybe that's something that'll stick with her beyond this season.
Just I don't know, just the memory of Nina, how
innocent she was, had some effect on a character like
the Bride who's only really known just bitterness and anger
towards everyone. So I did like that dynamic, I guess,
and I like the line in that moment. But yeah,
it felt like a like a satisfying end to the
season for maybe just the level of plot.
Speaker 2: Steaks that were at play. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I guess you could argue that it is it is
a big steak because we would have gone to World
War three with all these these robot mechs, But I
don't know, it's somehow still felt much much lower scale.
I guess just because it's a cuture commandos.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I don't feel like the threat was necessarily there,
and that was never It was never the most engaging
thing for me. Like I was there because the characters
and the humor and all that jazz. So when it
come to the military and pocalist SA and just taken over, Yeah,
I didn't didn't really get pulled in. I did get
pulled into the conspiracy. When we found out, Okay, clay
Face is behind this and there's a little bit of
shadiness going on. I thought, Okay, there's something here, and
I'm digging it. I'm liking it, and I like the
team up of Rick Flake Senior with Frankenstein. That was
a lot of fun and I would have definitely taken
a little bit more of that, but just to kind
of get in unraveled where Okay, we were made to
believe that the princess was in trouble and then oh,
she's actually behind it. Oh no she's not, Oh she
actually is. Again. It was just a little bit back
and forth, and I just feel like I was taken
advantage of that. They they created a problem, they solved it,
and then they created the problem again out of the
same problem, just to pull you in. And I just
didn't like that. I thought, yeah, it was a little
bit a little weak sauce, is what I'm gonna I'm
gonna say.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I agree with you. I think.
Speaker 3: When we initially get that Sir c like vision about
the World War three and everyone's just like, Okay, we
have to assassinate the princess, and then Rick Flagg is like,
hold on, like, we can't just do this, can we
like stop and think for a minute. But obviously they
had nothing, you know, they're they're going behind his back
or just over his back, whatever the hell we're doing
to just go assassinate the princess. And on that episode,
I was like, really like, I don't know, this just
seems like extremely rushed and a very hasty decision. So
I think that when we had a hasty to decisions
to just be like, oh we're wrong. Okay, yeah, no,
that's that's not actually the case. And then it like
switched around again. It was just like, I don't know,
I think I had less of a oh wow factor
for me because just the initial one was I don't
want to say like unbelievable, but just less less palatable.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like as easy for me to just swallow
that soft serve ice cream of a plot point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I hear you. I'm gonna send us on
a quick ad break here and we'll be right back.
And we are back. Where do you want to go next?
Speaker 3: I have a particular location which is in Nina's backstory,
you know, this was kind of her episode of having
the flashbacks of her origin point very sad one, and
I will say it's probably like the most well, a
lot of them have been like really sad and innocent,
Like doctor Fossphorus that was just horrific, and obviously his
family was super inno. All those children that Weasel was
with were definitely innocent, So like, I feel like they've
all had innocence around them in their backstories. This one,
like it definitely wasn't the worst by any means, because
definitely children die, it's probably a lot more horrific, and
then the family that was just tortured, uh, you know,
maybe worse so. But I feel like just the dynamic
of Nina and her father in this one. First of all,
this show in Universe has the worst fucking police officers
in the history of police officers. They're just shooting innocent
people left race. They are so ready to just pull
the trigger in any situation. It baffles me. But uh no,
I really felt for her father in this situation where
like he lost you know, his marriage because of the situation,
because he just loved his daughter so much, went through
all this efforts. She ends up just running away by
no fault of his own. Like she even says in
the letter that like he's been.
Speaker 2: Like the perfect father.
Speaker 3: And then at the end, he's like trying to defend
his daughter again and just gets shot in the back
by the cop. Like it just made no fucking sense
on the law enforcement perspective.
Speaker 2: But I guess that happens sometimes.
Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, no, I I was really sad for Nina,
Nina and Nina's father, and yeah, Nina just go to
the worst schools too, like the most aggressive bullies when
they're just like a frog fucker, it's like throw it
to the ground.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, ribbit.
Speaker 1: Say ribbit, bitch.
Speaker 2: I was like, holy fuck, this is like yeah, this
is like I'm in dairy or something. But yeah, I digress.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was. It's a brutal school. I mean most
of the most situations here, like you could nothing happen,
could nothing help this girl assists Nina, like no one's
doing shit all for her. Just the lacrosse is one
thing I get that it's a competitive sport. You're on
the field, you know, blood's running through your veins and
you get kicked down and they're just you know, talking
shit to her. But then when yeah, the two I've.
Speaker 2: Been called frogfucker on the field before, like everybody could.
Speaker 1: Called everyone does. Yeah, when the boys like push her
into the locker and like say rib it, bitch, like ribbit,
it's just so heartbreaking really feel for her. But yeah,
she's uh, she definitely had a very very rough go
at it. I love the relationship between the father and her.
The father just was caring about her and loved her
so much and just was trying to really help her.
Did testing and turned her into a fish, but wanted
to give her that better life and not have to
lug around this thirty pound contraption just because she was
born with her lungs outside her body, which is just crazy.
And then the mom just a piece of shit. Mom,
she's like just getting the fuck out of there. God damn,
I want a real daughter. Yeah whatever, that is exactly.
But I mean, you're spot on about the cop the cops.
I was laughing. I knew it was gonna happen because
the dad showed up like Nina, Nina, I'm thinking, oh God,
here we go. Step back.
Speaker 3: She pulls out the gun like no taser, no, like
full Nelson or anything, just shoot.
Speaker 1: First, he runs up to hug Nina. After he pushes
the cop out of the way, He's hugging Nina. And
this is this is the scene I'm set up. So
behind behind the the dad's hugging Nina. Nina's on the
other side of the dad. Behind Nina is another cop.
Left and right of the dad are more cops and
civilians and cameramen. And this guy just opens fire. One
shot just cleaned the heart, killing the dad. That bully
could have went through and killed Nina. It could have
kept going and hit like a cop, like so many factors,
but this guy didn't give a shit, just like.
Speaker 2: All the cops didn't just light them up from like all.
Speaker 1: Directions, kidding they should have. I mean yeah, just as
we already talked about in the previous episode with Weasel,
just the cop taking shots at Weasel when Weasel was
holding the girl and could have fucking killed her, which
it didn't matter because she died anyways, they chose to
like shoot Weasel and drag him out instead of save
the girl from under the rubble. Is absolutely fucked. These
cops are terrible, absolutely terrible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, there's a standout from that whole sequence. But
I must say, like Nina, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I I guess it's I can sort of understand the
reasoning to just leave home, but like, I feel like
the safest place for her is at her own home.
It's not like she was in like a toxic household
to run away and go in the sewers and just.
Speaker 2: Eat fish like Smiegel or something. But yeah, it was
kind of unfair for her to do that to.
Speaker 3: The father, I think from my perspective, and even though
she is bullied and like seeen as an outcast, at
least you know, you can talk to your family, you can,
you can work it out. He's clearly very loving and
supportive father.
Speaker 1: But I was, I was feeling sad when she left
the note, and the dad's just like runs out into
the ring, yes, sobbing, and she's like, oh, this poor guy,
like he's been in there for you every step the day,
and then you just you ditch him without saying goodbye. God.
Speaker 3: I know, yeah exactly, it's selfish. So and then she
killed her father essentially by that action.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 3: Really the police to blame, you know, the police could
have maybe just handcuffed him, detained him handled the situation deffinitely,
but again, that's not the world we live in.
Speaker 2: This James gun. How James guns. He's the police officers
in his world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all just trigger happy, crazy bastards. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh, other characters that kind of had a part to
play in this, Doctor Phosphorus went through a wall. He's
just such a powerful character, and I feel like, I
I like the usage that they have for him where
it's almost like they use them as a gadget and
a tool to like get through certain situations more so
than just like popping off, going super nova and like
burning everyone. And I just love his his comedy when
when he's when he's bounced around people, Like when when
they're trying to amp Nina up.
Speaker 2: They'd be like, you're the one that has to assassinate
the princess. You're the one that has to do this.
You're the one has to do this. And then he's
like saying this, like you can do this, kid, and
then she like walks off and he's like, did I
sound legit? Like did I sound real? Like he just
told like.
Speaker 3: Like he just has these moments of showing like he's
very sincere, and then he just like has like one
of those skeleton comments because he's just he's just a
fucking flaming skeleton. At the other day with like super Bitter.
I mean, we saw his backstory. He has reasons to be.
But I love the.
Speaker 2: Humor around that particular character.
Speaker 3: And you know, he took a good bite from Weasel
in this episode. Both parties definitely took some damage. He
like his arm was just missing like a chunk, and
then of course Weasel's burnt mouth.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that kill that he did too, where he
grabbed the security like the guard and put his hand
over his mouth and just pulled back and it just
was like erasing everything, Like god, damn, that's brutal. Oh yeah,
oh yeah, he's definitely cool. And yeah shut out to
Ghostder Ghost Wrider is now in DC before he's in Marvel. Yeah,
that's right.
Speaker 3: And then I guess that was really the only other cars.
Speaker 2: Like the Bride. Of course we already kind of talked
about her.
Speaker 3: Oh actually I did like the moment when they were
leaving the castle and there's that one guy in the
glass and he's like, oh, there's something we have to
like talk about. She just grabs him like by the
throat and just like throws them to the ground like
she's just I don't know. I really like the Bride.
She's hilarious. But yeah, no, I'm like there wasn't much
else from all the other characters in this one. Is
mostly what we had already talked about. But I'm looking
forward to seeing the new cast. And of course we
got Gi Robot back and he's looking even more op
than he already was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes he is. One last note that I liked.
I like that Weasel remembered being played with with the
Princess and was trying to like go out there and
like play with they're interact and they were trying.
Speaker 3: To like no, sit down, stop, They're gonna make a
statue about the Weasel because he's so honorable, say the Princess.
Speaker 2: That was funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have anything else you want to add?
I can't think of anything else.
Speaker 3: Rick Flagg was alive in this episode, but like very
very roughed up. I don't know, maybe I was wanting
more from him in this episode, Like I know he's
on Death Store right now, just got beaten up. But
I feel like the big hold up with that character
is all around, Like this princess stuff, and we just
like figured that out really easily at the end and
like resolve that whole issue, like she's dead now. And
I feel like the whole Rick Flag situation was tied
to that so much so because we resolved it so quickly,
I was surprised that we didn't really get a lot
of clarification on what's happening with Rick Flagg. But like,
at the start of next season, is he still going
to be all roughed up or is he just gonna
be clean and ready to go and just completely forgetting
this whole situation. I'm hoping it's it's not that, but
we'll see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm in agreeance with you. I would
have liked a little bit more. I just feel like
it was snuffed out way too just too quickly. And again,
when he's just muttering one word, he's like Frankenstein rec
Flag and then he says whatever that instructor's name was,
and then Waller goes to check out the house and
seize clay Face's remains, gunk whatever all over the place.
I figure out, Okay, it's all it's all been a setup.
It would have been cool to get a little bit
more instead of him just be on a bed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but no, no, I did it more stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, wow, what would you overall thoughts and give a
juicy rating.
Speaker 2: Overall juicy rating of season one.
Speaker 3: Uh, I think this was really really solid. I think
I'm gonna give it eight point seventy five, not quite
a nine, but like still really high in my mind.
Speaker 2: I like that they they stuck to.
Speaker 3: Like they they didn't try to overdo this first season.
And I just like the overall tone. It was a
nice healthy mixture balance of comedy, action, drama twists.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I liked all of it and really really looking forward
to the next season. And I'm with the characters that
didn't die, Like I am really stoked with kind of
our our solid crew with the Bride, doctor Foss, Firus,
Weasel somehow is like a main member, doesn't talk a lot,
but still like just just everyone around it. And yeah,
I'm excited to see more David Harbor Frankenstein. I do
like that casting choice. So yeah, no, eight point seventy five,
really really really solid. Highly recommend the show. I think
it's a really easy watch.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna give it an eight out of ten.
I think that the show definitely has some highlights, but
there's still some room for improvement here. It's not, by
any means a perfect show, but it is certainly a
good show. And I think if you haven't watched it
and just been tuning into the reviews, hopefully everything we've
said is kind of swayed you and you go in
and give it a give it a whirl. I think
the characters were a lot of fun. I like that
we got these different stories with them. I could have
done with a little bit more connection. Like I said
at the beginning of this episode, it would have been
nice to have a little bit more pull butt. Again,
that could just be user error me as a person
just lacking a means of connecting to them, So take
that with a grain of salt. But ultimately, I'm excited
for the next season. I'm excited to see where this
is going to go, and I think there's a lot
of fun to be had still with these characters and
with these stories. Hopefully they don't kill off too many
of them too fast in the next season. I'd like
to like that to kind of, you know, stretch out
a little bit more because I feel like these characters
have a little bit more life and longevity in them still.
But yeah, that that does it. Kirkland, Okay, you're giggling
and sorry, okay, okay, okay, gotcha. I wasn't sure if
you're playing with your mic settings again, I'm like, what
is he giggling?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Is he voice changing me now or something? Yeah, that's
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