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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on

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<v Speaker 2>Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Iron the Ball here on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>On Tuesday, got my semi usual guests, Dave Silver, semi

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<v Speaker 2>usual back twice a week, and Kobe survived Cabo. Hello.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe not.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to see you, Kobe.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Dave lostuff going on?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Football? Spring football? Yeah, spring football is underway. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>Ua men's basketball.

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<v Speaker 6>Men's basketball has a big week a little bit. There's

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<v Speaker 6>baseball tonight. Oh, they played Kansas games, one of those

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<v Speaker 6>mid whatever midweek games. Are they playing a seriously, they

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<v Speaker 6>must be No, it's one. It's like a one gamer,

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<v Speaker 6>which I'm real. I'm quite sure how that all worked out.

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<v Speaker 6>Kansas coming all the way just just for a game.

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<v Speaker 6>I gotta look at that schedule. They must have something

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<v Speaker 6>else going. Maybe they're going to play Issue or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, no, cool, a big game on Friday obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>Women Thursday will get to all that and the football

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<v Speaker 2>thing as well. We had a press commerce with the

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<v Speaker 2>with the Brennan yesterday, insightful for what it was worth.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, you know, they have a lot to do,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to work with or a lot to do,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to recover from. I'm gonna ask a levels

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<v Speaker 2>there and ask a lot of questions.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean, what's he thinking with this? I mean

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<v Speaker 6>the roster is pretty much turned over. But yeah, with

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<v Speaker 6>with with Brendan, what is he?

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<v Speaker 7>What does he?

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<v Speaker 2>It was hard, It was hard to gauge. He's an

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<v Speaker 2>engaging guy, but he's not an excitable guy, right, so

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<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna you're gonna get what he gets, which

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<v Speaker 2>which she gives you, Right, I don't know about fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>newcomers gonna be at the roster here at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the semester. A lot of changes and then don't

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<v Speaker 2>forget the the scholarship numbers have to come down and

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot to work with some new coaches.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, did he say kind of how he's going

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<v Speaker 6>to approach this offseason maybe a little bit differently than

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<v Speaker 6>last year where he didn't have a whole lot of time.

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<v Speaker 6>But no, there was some talk. I remember when the

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<v Speaker 6>season began, like, you know, we don't really know this guy,

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<v Speaker 6>and he's not out there in public. You wonder, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe with uh, you know, some of the changes in

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<v Speaker 6>the administration and athletics, if they're going to kind of

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<v Speaker 6>focus on on some of that, Yeah, these next few months.

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<v Speaker 2>That's those are great questions, Dave. Too bad you weren't

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<v Speaker 2>at the front conference. Oh, I don't do that job anymore. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>But but those are questions that I think. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>ask any questions. I was just there to observe and

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<v Speaker 2>see what he said. But my question and I thought

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<v Speaker 2>of it, and I said, I'm want to wait for

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<v Speaker 2>this for the fall because he's gonna give me a

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<v Speaker 2>standard answer. But how much pressure do you think? How

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<v Speaker 2>much pressure does he think he's under? And he's not

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to say, well, you know, I'm not, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I just got to do my job yet it yet,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know I think he is.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean it's a bit you know, it's a

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<v Speaker 6>big conference. Uh, there's a lot of a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>coaches of it. There's probably a handful of coaches that

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<v Speaker 6>are probably feeling that way where you you know, you

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<v Speaker 6>get there with with all these teams and relatively high expectations,

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<v Speaker 6>you don't you know. They I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 6>they laid an egg their first year, but it wasn't

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<v Speaker 6>what people had hoped.

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<v Speaker 2>It was not a five dollars egg, right, it was

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<v Speaker 2>a bigger one than these.

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<v Speaker 5>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was no those price of eggs. Now, well, he

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<v Speaker 2>kind of drove it into the ditch.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean that's that was kind of how he

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<v Speaker 6>saw it play out. And that was disappointing based on

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<v Speaker 6>what we saw the year before and with a different coach.

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<v Speaker 8>So, you know, he has a lot to prove.

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<v Speaker 6>I think, you know, I'm sure he's got some pride

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<v Speaker 6>in him and he's like, you know, wait a second,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not I'm not that guy, and I want to

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<v Speaker 6>I want to make two soon proud.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's the two soon proud and desiree. Well, because

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<v Speaker 2>that's the one you have to impress with the with

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<v Speaker 2>the wins and the and the culture and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>He mentioned that yesterday. So we'll talk to to Michael

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<v Speaker 2>about all that when he comes on in about ten

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, when does basketball take off tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow? So you have a press conmerce on Thursday at

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<v Speaker 2>two Seattle time. So I'm sure they got to get

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<v Speaker 2>out of here tomorrow to night, get ready over there

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<v Speaker 2>on Thursday and then the game of four to thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five right on Friday. Did you have you looked at brackets?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't really looked at mine yet. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>know same thing. You know.

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<v Speaker 6>I've looked. I filled them out you already did, of course.

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<v Speaker 6>How many do you do you do? I do two

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<v Speaker 6>a contest? Two contests? Okay, I need to get in

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<v Speaker 6>those three contents. Huh do you have like, oh I

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<v Speaker 6>got friends?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, like five bucks right, ten bucks whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty yeah, okay, high price friends.

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<v Speaker 6>We do a really good well, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 6>one explain. We do a really cool one with some

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<v Speaker 6>of my buddies too. We use an Excel spreadsheet and

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<v Speaker 6>we have the numbers sixteen to one, and you put

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<v Speaker 6>a team in that in that spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Some part of that one.

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<v Speaker 8>Have you done something like that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we do that with with of course, my partner here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you know that cockroach is going to walk

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<v Speaker 2>up the wall or no, how fast is he going

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<v Speaker 2>to do it? If he does? Yeah? So Jay's Jay

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<v Speaker 2>does one of those.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, Yeah, it's a lot of fun. So you follow

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<v Speaker 8>along that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you really have you found out if there's a

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<v Speaker 2>trick to that. No, there's no trick to that. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a trick to everything, but it's trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>what's the smart move and where to put people's teams strategically.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean there's pretty much an obvious top whatever welve.

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<v Speaker 2>Made, but you don't get much points for those ones exactly.

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<v Speaker 6>So you stuck, you know, stick somebody down with the

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<v Speaker 6>three or two and you keep they keep going, yet

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<v Speaker 6>you don't get You get points, but not many.

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<v Speaker 2>Not many, right, Well, that's why you need the tens

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<v Speaker 2>or the twelves right to win some games. It's fun,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a fun pool.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, it's interesting too because like you go on

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<v Speaker 6>ESPN's whatever it's called Tournament Challenge, you get all the

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<v Speaker 6>other you know, the guys from ESPN have their pools.

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<v Speaker 6>You can actually literally just click and take their pool. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>your own.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny. As you say that, I've said this last

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<v Speaker 2>couple of days, there are no experts in this. They

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<v Speaker 2>have no idea what's happening.

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<v Speaker 9>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's how they play that day, right, But you oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy from ESPN says this. I was at USA

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<v Speaker 2>Today in eighty nine and working there, and one of

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<v Speaker 2>the horse racing guys, the horse racing guy who covered

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<v Speaker 2>horse racing, was giving his tips out and this is

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<v Speaker 2>some guy he was, I guess, doing the thing at

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<v Speaker 2>the counter and says, well, if the USA Today, guy,

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is gonna win it. I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>on it too, right course, didn't have a chance.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know you you're probably there, but I used

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<v Speaker 6>to love the USA Today's Monday after the brackets came out. Yeah, Page,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean we would go to that instant. We're huge

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<v Speaker 6>because it at every game, every matchup.

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<v Speaker 2>We've already got a call day. Oh you're kidding. Yeah, No, No,

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<v Speaker 2>you're on the air and I on the ball.

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<v Speaker 9>Who's yes, Hey guys, this is Doug.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing, Doug? What's the word?

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<v Speaker 9>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Man?

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<v Speaker 9>Hey Steve, Hey, Dave. You know yeah, I'm trying of

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<v Speaker 9>jumping the gun on your show, like right off the

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<v Speaker 9>back because I have an appointment coming up. But I

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<v Speaker 9>thought I would just put in my two cents on

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<v Speaker 9>what you mentioned about football, and it kind of ties

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<v Speaker 9>to basketball too, just the press. You talk about the

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<v Speaker 9>pressure that coach Brennan would be under, And the thing

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<v Speaker 9>that drives me nuts about fan bases, and it's definitely

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<v Speaker 9>not just Arizona, is that fans like, you want team

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<v Speaker 9>to succeed, you want you want your program to succeed,

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<v Speaker 9>but the very things that you do sometimes make it

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<v Speaker 9>not succeed. Like the hate that people put on players,

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<v Speaker 9>on coaches, and the pressure that they put on them.

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<v Speaker 9>That pressure alone makes them joke or or makes recruits

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<v Speaker 9>not want to go there because they see the fan

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<v Speaker 9>base is fickle or you know, whatever it might be,

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<v Speaker 9>or it hurts attendance, and then the attendance leads to

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<v Speaker 9>bad recruiting, and they're bad recruiting leads to a bad team,

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<v Speaker 9>and so I just think like, and I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 9>to tell people, you know that in the sand to

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<v Speaker 9>be a Pollyanna, but it just drives me nuts, like

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<v Speaker 9>with this NCAA tournament and the Final four drought, saying,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, what benefit does the program get out of

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<v Speaker 9>you just hating on your own team, right, or or

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<v Speaker 9>hating on Trey Townsend or hating on Carter Bryant or

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<v Speaker 9>whatever it might be, or on Caleb Love. It's like,

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<v Speaker 9>at some point, you know, as a fan, I just

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<v Speaker 9>feel like, just support them and hope that it works out.

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<v Speaker 9>If it doesn't, then it sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>What are the things I continue to say? I say

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<v Speaker 2>it all the time, at least maybe not on the air.

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<v Speaker 2>But enjoy the moment because they're fleeting And yeah, Doug,

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<v Speaker 2>you've been around a ton. We're friends. I know who

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<v Speaker 2>you are, and you've seen some great moments. You've seen

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<v Speaker 2>some ugly moments, but you've seen a lot of good moments,

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<v Speaker 2>and people just don't enjoy the moment. Well the thing too.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, as I was working, I had so many people

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<v Speaker 6>jealous of the fact that I was covering the tournament

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<v Speaker 6>every single year. We really are pretty lucky here in

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<v Speaker 6>this town to have had that into the business. It's why,

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<v Speaker 6>it's why you stayed. And you know, there's my appears

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<v Speaker 6>all over the country. How many years you been I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know, maybe twenty in a row, you know, so

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<v Speaker 6>it's pretty amazing it was. You know, I think we

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<v Speaker 6>need to understand how cool that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Been before you go to your appointment.

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<v Speaker 10>Doug.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little upset you've been cheating me, cheating on

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<v Speaker 2>me with the other station, But I'll let you go

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<v Speaker 2>for that.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, well wait, but how do you know that?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was like, I'm listening, not calling in I'm

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<v Speaker 2>listening not calling.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I actually I'm not a frequent caller with the

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<v Speaker 9>but like we've all gone through some really serious things

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<v Speaker 9>in our lives, loved ones and everything else. You know, jobs,

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<v Speaker 9>whatever it is, and it just people need to remember

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<v Speaker 9>that sports is fun, you know. It's that it's the

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<v Speaker 9>rested from all all of that other drama. I almost

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<v Speaker 9>said a bad word, all the other drama in our lives.

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<v Speaker 9>And so yeah, I mean it's not always fun because

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<v Speaker 9>gonna play Akron on Friday for a chance to advance

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<v Speaker 9>the anticipation of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to just to your point real quick, Uh, you

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<v Speaker 2>know some people I guess read it or some players

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<v Speaker 2>actually read it to your point of the Facebook or Twitter,

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<v Speaker 2>and kJ Lewis has been kind of been not fighting

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<v Speaker 9>Attention, right of course if you. I mean, look at

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<v Speaker 9>it's probably sports betters where they don't actually have any

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<v Speaker 9>but and I'll be upset about something but not it's

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<v Speaker 9>not life or death. But yeah, it's just it's gotten

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<v Speaker 9>a little crazy, and I think your point is just

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<v Speaker 9>I I'd block out Thursday through Sunday and I will

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<v Speaker 9>watch some part of every single game, and I'll have

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<v Speaker 9>money on some of them, but mostly it's just fun.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, it's it's do or die for every one

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<v Speaker 9>of these teams. You've been watching all season, and and

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<v Speaker 9>someone's gonna flame out and hopefully it won't be us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>but I just think it's in terms of football too.

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<v Speaker 9>I just want to remind people that the negativity and

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<v Speaker 9>saying like this coach is terrible or this player should

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<v Speaker 9>transfer it doesn't actually help you get to where you're

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to get across it, and you have, you know, thanks,

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<v Speaker 2>Doug Cool. Appreciate the call. I appreciate it. Shure, we

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<v Speaker 2>got about two minutes.

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<v Speaker 8>It's good that weird.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>We live in a town too where people care. People care,

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<v Speaker 6>I do care about They go to the games and

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<v Speaker 6>they care about it. They call in and they listen

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<v Speaker 6>to the shows like this and read the paper, and

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<v Speaker 6>there's a lot of outlets to uh, you know, check

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<v Speaker 8>So I mean they we're we're lucky I think to

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<v Speaker 2>You know, And to be fair from my end, because

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<v Speaker 2>they're pragmatic, A lot of them are. It's the it's

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<v Speaker 2>the one or two that you know that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>pop off right for no really big reason. They just

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<v Speaker 2>do it because they can and things they're funny. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean they think they're funny when they post these things.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean it drives me crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>I know it does to you when you go on

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<v Speaker 6>Facebook during the game and they put stuff up that

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<v Speaker 6>just looks so ridiculous that the game what you get?

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<v Speaker 6>And then they don't take that post down every game's over,

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<v Speaker 6>like what's wrong with these guys? And then they wind

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<v Speaker 6>up winning by right?

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<v Speaker 2>Right though?

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<v Speaker 8>I never understood that approach, right, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't get that points and I've posted a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>things on them because it gets me so pressured. Okay, Dave,

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<v Speaker 2>what's your point? What's your point on saying this team,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy played poorly? We all see this, right, Are

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<v Speaker 2>you trying to say that you know basketball chast what's

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<v Speaker 2>your point? Yeah? And it's not just one or two,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's a lot of stuff. They fired up to

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<v Speaker 2>their computer or their phone to write this. Are you

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<v Speaker 2>a better person? Do you feel better after writing this?

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<v Speaker 2>What would be a good story for you to do?

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<v Speaker 2>You should do a story on that. I should really

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<v Speaker 2>should try to find the he's online whatever, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what they would go away, They're in their basements, just

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<v Speaker 2>just firing away their comments. Yeah, because it doesn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not coaching. Your yelling. I just go outside, yell

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<v Speaker 2>what you want to type to the world, come back

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<v Speaker 2>in and watch the game.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, everybody, you know, we're in the world now

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<v Speaker 2>You can.

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<v Speaker 6>You can have your own you know, sub stacks and

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't have to do that. No, No, what's

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera and with me it

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<v Speaker 2>is Dave Silver. Now on the phone, we have Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Lib from the Arizona Daily Store. Michael, how you doing good?

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<v Speaker 3>How are you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>We're good. You've been busy, You've been busy.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna I'm going to agree with you this time.

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<v Speaker 5>Other times I'd say I haven't been that busy.

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<v Speaker 10>But yeah, between the World Baseball Classic, coll of Guard Classic,

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<v Speaker 10>the end of you know, the regular season in mental

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<v Speaker 10>women's basketball, the start of the baseball season, now spring

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<v Speaker 10>football starting, there's a lot going on, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess today Day pointed out you had a

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<v Speaker 2>story about the uh uh, maybe the possibility or this

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<v Speaker 2>maybe suggestion that the U should hold or host Attorney game.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my idea, this is your idea. You came

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<v Speaker 2>up on your own idea, So so explain it, explain

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<v Speaker 2>it and why?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I can just say for a while. So,

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<v Speaker 3>the basic premise is the NCAA tournament is going to expand, right.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems like that's the way the tide is pushing

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<v Speaker 3>right now, going to.

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<v Speaker 5>Be seventy two. I don't know if it's going to

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<v Speaker 5>be s doesn't really model whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever it is, there's going to be a you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a second first four. Right, you still have the one

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<v Speaker 3>in Dayton, but they'll want to have one on the

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<v Speaker 3>West coast so they can kind of stack the start times,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and kind of.

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<v Speaker 5>Spread the love a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>And my idea was, why not Tucson to be this

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<v Speaker 3>home for the.

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<v Speaker 5>West coast first four? This? You know, Tucson is no

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<v Speaker 5>Steve used to host NCAA regional all the time at

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<v Speaker 5>McHale Center. They stopped doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically, Greg Burn Sean Miller decided that it wasn't in

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<v Speaker 3>the UA's best interest to do that because it would

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<v Speaker 3>you reduce the number of possible sites on the West

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<v Speaker 3>Coast where Arizona could go and play this that that

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<v Speaker 3>would not be a problem with the first four, because

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking about the first four.

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<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't have anything to do with the first and

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<v Speaker 5>second round. I think it would.

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<v Speaker 3>It dovetails really nicely with you know a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the initiatives that have been undertaken recently to bring more,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, big time sporting.

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<v Speaker 5>Events into town.

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<v Speaker 3>The you know, the economics are pretty obvious when you

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<v Speaker 3>have these kind of big events, you know, more people

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<v Speaker 3>in restaurants, more people staying in hotels.

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<v Speaker 5>For Dayton, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Been upwards of six billion dollars in economic impact each

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<v Speaker 3>of the last.

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<v Speaker 5>Two years, according to media reports and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Also feel like Tucson is you know, it's a bigger

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<v Speaker 3>city than Dayton, but it's sort of a similar vibe.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's a college town.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't really have we have pro teams, but we

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<v Speaker 3>don't have the Major League teams here, and.

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<v Speaker 5>People love basketball. They love love basketball in this town.

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<v Speaker 3>I came up with a spreadsheet looking at combined attendance

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<v Speaker 3>between men and women's basketball this season and any among

484
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<v Speaker 3>schools west of Texas. Arizona was number one on that list.

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<v Speaker 3>So these are all kind of the reasons that I

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<v Speaker 3>think that.

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<v Speaker 6>How do we how do we make this? What's the

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<v Speaker 6>process going to be? You think, I mean, do we

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<v Speaker 6>just well let them know?

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<v Speaker 3>I think, yeah, yeah, I mean if this happens, and

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<v Speaker 3>it could, I mean Brett your Mark suggested there could

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<v Speaker 3>be some meaningful discussion about this and then you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the next two to three months. Then once it becomes

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<v Speaker 3>established and they figure out what the format is, it'll

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<v Speaker 3>be up to schools or cities or arenas or whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>To put in bids. You know, you'll put your bid

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<v Speaker 5>together for however long. You could be like a three

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<v Speaker 5>year contract.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Dayton currently is locked in through twenty twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the return? I mean, do they get paid or

501
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<v Speaker 2>do they have to shell out the money.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like the costs are shared by the institution and

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<v Speaker 3>the NCAA. I mean, I tried to get kind of

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<v Speaker 3>concrete figures on that, and I couldn't do so. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of this idea that you know, if it's

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<v Speaker 3>if it's good for like the city.

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<v Speaker 5>Of Tucson, it's probably also good for the u of A.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if it's beneficial, it's beneficial for the economy

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<v Speaker 3>of Tucson. Let's say, you know, let's say it helps

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<v Speaker 3>restaurant owners, helps hotel owners. I mean that puts people

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<v Speaker 3>in a more advantageous position financially to buy tickets to

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<v Speaker 3>UA sporting events later on.

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<v Speaker 5>It's also really good brand exposure for.

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<v Speaker 3>Your school, right Like who talks about Dayton three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and sixty three other days of the year, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>not very much, because two days a year like that

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<v Speaker 3>is the the focal.

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<v Speaker 5>Point of the entire sporting world, and you have that

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<v Speaker 5>here at the u of A.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it makes sense, it makes sense. We'll see, we'll see. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let me move on because we don't have a whole

522
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<v Speaker 2>heck of a lot of time with you yesterday. I

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<v Speaker 2>hope to talk to about football, men's basketball, women's basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>So yesterday we were all with Brendan. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>guys asked some great questions. Uh, it's not my lane there.

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<v Speaker 2>I had maybe a question I want to ask. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>save it for the fall. H What did you take

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<v Speaker 2>from yesterday?

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<v Speaker 3>My biggest takeaway from yesterday when he first met with

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<v Speaker 3>us was that he's just more intentional, which is messaging.

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<v Speaker 5>Remember when he first got up there, Steve.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, I brought notes, yeah, right today, Like.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think he ever brought notes with him in

534
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<v Speaker 5>the past. You know, I felt like he was just

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<v Speaker 5>kind of waiting a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe he didn't fully understand like the scope right

537
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<v Speaker 3>job and never really was in a lot of situations

538
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<v Speaker 3>like this at San Jose State where it was basically

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<v Speaker 3>zero media coverage.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and not nearly as much fan interest as the

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<v Speaker 5>race here.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, if they've had the the fit of time, Uh,

543
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<v Speaker 3>they've been here, you know, his regime has been here

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<v Speaker 3>for a year plus now. I think that's where I

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<v Speaker 3>read France was. I'm sure most assuredly had some conversations

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<v Speaker 3>with him about, you know, just how to organize your

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<v Speaker 3>thoughts a little bit better or present yourself, And he

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<v Speaker 3>came in with talking points, you know, the things that

549
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<v Speaker 3>he's looking for in players, the things he's looking for

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<v Speaker 3>on the field. So I just feel like there's that

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<v Speaker 3>things are just a little bit better organized and kind

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<v Speaker 3>of flowing in a singular direction this year.

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<v Speaker 5>Whereas last year, I mean, you know, they came in

554
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<v Speaker 5>and had to.

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<v Speaker 3>Scrambles, yeah, just to keep the roster together, and it

556
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<v Speaker 3>was kind of like partially the old roster, partially the

557
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<v Speaker 3>new roster. This feels like it's more Brendan's team and

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<v Speaker 3>Brannan's operation.

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<v Speaker 6>I was gonna say earlier we were talking a little

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<v Speaker 6>bit about off the field things and the program and

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<v Speaker 6>how it presents himself in Tucson.

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<v Speaker 8>Did he go into that at all or maybe you know,

563
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<v Speaker 8>what are we going.

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<v Speaker 6>To see from you of a football say in July

565
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<v Speaker 6>or June when there's no games, but people need to

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<v Speaker 6>buy tickets and the program needs to get some attention.

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<v Speaker 2>Did he talk about that at all?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean a little bit, A little bit in the

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<v Speaker 3>sense of the Spring Showcase, which is a different concept

570
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<v Speaker 3>and reimagining of the spring game. A lot of schools

571
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<v Speaker 3>are ditching their spring games altogether, in part because of

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<v Speaker 3>injury concerns, in part because they don't want to put

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<v Speaker 3>film out there for the world, in part because you know,

574
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<v Speaker 3>sometimes guys get seen and they get poached by other schools.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, Arizona is doing I think a smart

576
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<v Speaker 3>thing and basically turning it into a fan fest.

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<v Speaker 5>Right. You talked about there.

578
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<v Speaker 3>Being an easter right hunt, and there's gonna be autographed,

579
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<v Speaker 3>there's going to be a beer garden, maybe there will

580
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<v Speaker 3>be a little bit of football sprinkle games.

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<v Speaker 5>This is kind of what it should be probably.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they do most of their meaningful work in

583
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<v Speaker 3>those first fourteen spring practices. It's okay if you utilize

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<v Speaker 3>the fifteenth one to build a bond with the community.

585
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<v Speaker 3>He didn't talk about this other thing that I'm going

586
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<v Speaker 3>to mention here specifically, but they did announce the next

587
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<v Speaker 3>round of the coaches Caravan, and I don't know if

588
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<v Speaker 3>it goes in the summer or not.

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<v Speaker 5>It maybe starts in May.

590
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<v Speaker 3>But there's only three stumps, and I think overhelf of

591
00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:34.960
<v Speaker 3>them are in Tucson, So they're trying to hit other

592
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<v Speaker 3>parts of the state. But they're also we're really trying

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of double down on the Tucson communities here.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the population of the city is I think

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<v Speaker 3>over five hundred thousand in the metro area at post

596
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<v Speaker 3>to a million.

597
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<v Speaker 5>You know, if you do it right, you should.

598
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<v Speaker 3>Be able to fill up with fifty thousand seam football

599
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:56.640
<v Speaker 3>stadium six times every fall. Obviously, costs are an issue

600
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<v Speaker 3>expensive so to these games.

601
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<v Speaker 5>You have to pay for players.

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<v Speaker 3>These days, so you know, there's a lot of obstacles

603
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<v Speaker 3>in that regard, but it seems like they are making

604
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<v Speaker 3>efforts in that in that area, which is super important.

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<v Speaker 3>And Brent Brandon seems to understand how important that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Since you were offering suggestions for the final four, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for the extra four here. Let me let me ask

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<v Speaker 2>you this. You came from la You covered USC when

609
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<v Speaker 2>you first got here, and I think you've been here

610
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<v Speaker 2>six or seven years now, what did you think You're thinking?

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<v Speaker 2>This is college football? And I say that with all

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<v Speaker 2>due respect. You know, we go and I covered football

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<v Speaker 2>before I did laschool a long time ago, many years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>And you go to Oklahoma and you go, you see

615
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<v Speaker 2>the secs and you say, this is college football. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if you had a couple of suggestions, what would they be,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, you you cover the team as a

618
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<v Speaker 2>columnist now after covering it as a regular beat writer.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is college football here, but this is not

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<v Speaker 2>college football other places.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, first of all, Steve, you can believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been here for nine years going on ten. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's been a minute, but okay, the time

624
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<v Speaker 3>is fun by time, plass when you're having fun.

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<v Speaker 5>Right. It was definitely a.

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<v Speaker 3>Shock to the system for me coming from covering USC

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<v Speaker 3>to covering Arizona, just in terms of the the quality

628
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<v Speaker 3>of athletes, the depth side, the speed, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>The number of draft picks each year or lack thereof.

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<v Speaker 3>So to me, like it's if you're not talking about

631
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<v Speaker 3>the same things necessarily, Like USC and Arizona are just

632
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<v Speaker 3>not recruiting the same caliber of players. That's probably never

633
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<v Speaker 3>going to change. So the challenge is, and you know

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<v Speaker 3>my suggestion is and I think they're doing this, is

635
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<v Speaker 3>you've got to unners, James. You know, you've got to

636
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<v Speaker 3>find You've got to find the players who aren't board

637
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<v Speaker 3>and five star but have four and five star potential.

638
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:06.519
<v Speaker 3>You know, when you've seen this at places like Viola

639
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.039
<v Speaker 3>or even like North Dakota State, like they look for

640
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:15.480
<v Speaker 3>certain body types and they're able to develop those players,

641
00:30:16.440 --> 00:30:20.240
<v Speaker 3>and those players exceed whatever their recruiting rankings are. So

642
00:30:20.279 --> 00:30:22.119
<v Speaker 3>I think they're on the red path. I mean, Brent

643
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.200
<v Speaker 3>Brandon is used to doing that at San Jose State.

644
00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:28.440
<v Speaker 3>I think he's got you know a little bit, You've

645
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:29.799
<v Speaker 3>got more resources here.

646
00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:32.400
<v Speaker 5>You're going to get a better caliber players here than

647
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:33.119
<v Speaker 5>San Jose.

648
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:39.400
<v Speaker 3>State with a Big twelve, you know happening now you

649
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:42.839
<v Speaker 3>now have like the Texas market that you can tap into,

650
00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:43.960
<v Speaker 3>and they're doing good job of that.

651
00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:45.640
<v Speaker 5>There's tons of good players in Texas.

652
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:49.720
<v Speaker 3>So that would be the pass to me to to

653
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:52.000
<v Speaker 3>towards some sort of level of sustained success.

654
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:55.400
<v Speaker 6>And I would say to the those players the parody

655
00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:57.839
<v Speaker 6>in the Big twelve, I think is gonna be We're

656
00:30:57.839 --> 00:30:59.839
<v Speaker 6>gonna see that and saying that it's gonna proably be a

657
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:03.359
<v Speaker 6>diff a different champion every year, unlike the the Pac twelve,

658
00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:04.839
<v Speaker 6>whereas like I kind of knew it was gonna be

659
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:08.319
<v Speaker 6>USC or Oregon basically like the last ten years Washington.

660
00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:10.960
<v Speaker 6>But it seems like, I mean, it's just much more

661
00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:12.960
<v Speaker 6>wide open, you know, and he's got a little you know,

662
00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:15.880
<v Speaker 6>he's he could squeeze into the top five, you know,

663
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:17.599
<v Speaker 6>every so often in the conference.

664
00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:18.119
<v Speaker 8>I would think.

665
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:20.880
<v Speaker 5>I completely agree.

666
00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:25.720
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's necessarily good for the conference if.

667
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:27.880
<v Speaker 5>It plays out that week, because I think I kind of.

668
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Like to have those kind of couple premier teams that

669
00:31:31.079 --> 00:31:31.960
<v Speaker 3>get a lot of attention.

670
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:35.240
<v Speaker 5>But it certainly makes things more interesting and more foreign.

671
00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:38.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, who thought Arizona State was gonna win the

672
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:42.000
<v Speaker 3>conference last year? Nobody? I mean, they were picked to

673
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:45.119
<v Speaker 3>finish I think last, right, Well, I don't think was.

674
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:47.279
<v Speaker 5>I don't think that was very wise.

675
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:50.920
<v Speaker 3>I thought going into the teams that Houston was the

676
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:52.400
<v Speaker 3>worst team in the league, and I think they ended

677
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:53.000
<v Speaker 3>up finishing.

678
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:55.440
<v Speaker 5>No, I want to actually Oklahoma State finished last, which

679
00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:57.160
<v Speaker 5>also no he saw coming.

680
00:31:57.200 --> 00:31:58.559
<v Speaker 3>By the way, a lot of people picked them to

681
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:01.519
<v Speaker 3>win the league, so things were kind of upside down.

682
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:06.359
<v Speaker 3>But I agree, like d Yu, it could be really

683
00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:10.039
<v Speaker 3>good this year. We think, right, you should be good

684
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:12.880
<v Speaker 3>again this year. You think someone like Oklahoma State's gonna

685
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:16.160
<v Speaker 3>bounce back Houston as a quarterback now, so they could

686
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:16.680
<v Speaker 3>rise up.

687
00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:20.319
<v Speaker 5>I think I always State brings back a lot. It

688
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:22.240
<v Speaker 5>is a wide open and fun lead.

689
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.160
<v Speaker 3>Again, it will be very very interesting to see moving

690
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:30.960
<v Speaker 3>forward if they expand that tournament the college football playoffs,

691
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:34.720
<v Speaker 3>like whether they're going to do you know, X number

692
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:37.519
<v Speaker 3>of a lot of mental qualifiers. And while I don't

693
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:40.480
<v Speaker 3>like that idea in general, it probably would be a

694
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:42.960
<v Speaker 3>good thing for the Big twelve if they were to

695
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:46.000
<v Speaker 3>secure too, because most of the time they're going to

696
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:47.000
<v Speaker 3>be a one league.

697
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:48.799
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna try to go a little longer if you

698
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:51.200
<v Speaker 2>if you can, because I think some of the topics

699
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:53.000
<v Speaker 2>we want to talk about it are important. So you

700
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:55.160
<v Speaker 2>had some a chance to sit down with Desiree. I'm

701
00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:58.480
<v Speaker 2>sure you have extended titles department. Do you have more

702
00:32:58.519 --> 00:32:59.079
<v Speaker 2>than two parts?

703
00:32:59.480 --> 00:32:59.519
<v Speaker 1>No?

704
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:01.920
<v Speaker 5>True?

705
00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:02.240
<v Speaker 2>Two?

706
00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:04.119
<v Speaker 5>Okay, the second part was the second or two?

707
00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, so I haven't read much except I did

708
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:11.119
<v Speaker 2>read about your coaching one of the evaluations. I'm sure

709
00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:13.480
<v Speaker 2>you already kind of expected that answer to come from her.

710
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:17.039
<v Speaker 2>What was the most interesting things that you got from her?

711
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:19.839
<v Speaker 2>Because it is her year anniversary, there's a lot of

712
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:24.119
<v Speaker 2>things going on to you, anything interesting, maybe a tidbit

713
00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:24.480
<v Speaker 2>or two.

714
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:30.559
<v Speaker 3>Well, she said that she's basically been able to wipe

715
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:34.079
<v Speaker 3>out that the set that they face, wow, or will

716
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:37.519
<v Speaker 3>have wiped it out by the end of fiscal year

717
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:39.039
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty five, which I.

718
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:41.839
<v Speaker 5>Guess is next to June. And maybe that's fistically your

719
00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:45.440
<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty six, that's next June thirty. It's not this one, Okay,

720
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:48.759
<v Speaker 5>the next one. And she's done that in a variety

721
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:49.599
<v Speaker 5>of ways.

722
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:51.839
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's kind of what she was brought in

723
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:55.720
<v Speaker 3>to do, right, Like prime primary objective was to get

724
00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:58.920
<v Speaker 3>the department out of the red So I mean that's

725
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:00.160
<v Speaker 3>been us.

726
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:04.519
<v Speaker 2>How did she do that? How did she do that

727
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:07.640
<v Speaker 2>so quickly? What did you say?

728
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:12.239
<v Speaker 3>It's a gradual process. And some of it has been

729
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:17.079
<v Speaker 3>like finding ways to save money here and there. Some

730
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:20.599
<v Speaker 3>of it has been, uh, finding ways to generate money.

731
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:24.239
<v Speaker 3>The new Nike contract is a big thing because that

732
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:26.920
<v Speaker 3>was costing them And this just blew me away when

733
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:29.199
<v Speaker 3>I found this out. It was costing them two point

734
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:32.719
<v Speaker 3>five million dollars a year basically to get all the

735
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:36.199
<v Speaker 3>stuff that they needed because the previous contract was so insufficient.

736
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:41.119
<v Speaker 3>So I mean, that's that's a nice chunk of savings

737
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:43.960
<v Speaker 3>right there. So that was one thing that stared out

738
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:47.880
<v Speaker 3>to me for sure, I would say that a second thing,

739
00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:50.639
<v Speaker 3>and I'll try to explain this, and I kind of

740
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:53.679
<v Speaker 3>hinted at it in the in the second part that

741
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:56.960
<v Speaker 3>I wrote, but like she just sort of mentioned in

742
00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:03.039
<v Speaker 3>casting the possibility of our designed court at mcale Center.

743
00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:06.199
<v Speaker 3>So obviously my ears perked up when she said that.

744
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:08.920
<v Speaker 3>And then I, you know, kind of tried to cancer

745
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:11.760
<v Speaker 3>for details and she just went, Mom. She wouldn't say,

746
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:16.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, she wouldn't give any anything away. But I

747
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:20.000
<v Speaker 3>feel like maybe that's coming, uh next year, And I

748
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:22.519
<v Speaker 3>don't have that confirmed, but that was my That was

749
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.360
<v Speaker 3>That was what I inferred from that conversation, and that

750
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:29.360
<v Speaker 3>I think is potentially exciting for people who remember, you know,

751
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:32.320
<v Speaker 3>certain imagery being on the court back in the day.

752
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:34.519
<v Speaker 5>I don't know what the official name I was. I

753
00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:36.639
<v Speaker 5>was called the Tech Practice.

754
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that'd be good. So so another quick thing,

755
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:43.519
<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna have to go back and read it

756
00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:45.559
<v Speaker 2>because it's to me, it's interesting and maybe we'll have

757
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:49.079
<v Speaker 2>you on again down the road. Uh. But in order

758
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:52.000
<v Speaker 2>for a new person like like her, you might as

759
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:54.719
<v Speaker 2>well have been Dave Silver. When you're you're asked, you're

760
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:57.280
<v Speaker 2>asking somebody to come in and be the new person

761
00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:00.360
<v Speaker 2>and to make changes. Guess what they had to make? Changes? Well,

762
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:04.039
<v Speaker 2>she she did some of them probably not popular, did

763
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:04.840
<v Speaker 2>you go there? No?

764
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:10.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean yeah, I mean the headline of the first

765
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:12.679
<v Speaker 3>part was something like the change is not easy.

766
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:15.440
<v Speaker 5>You know. That was one of those one of her quotes.

767
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:17.719
<v Speaker 5>And there's been a ton of turnovers.

768
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:20.440
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and I'm sure like a lot of people that

769
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:23.760
<v Speaker 3>left or you know, weren't happy about what was going on.

770
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:27.320
<v Speaker 3>And she's brought in people that a lot of people

771
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:29.719
<v Speaker 3>that she knows, some people who are you know, she

772
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:35.280
<v Speaker 3>didn't work with before. And yeah, it's it's was not

773
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:39.199
<v Speaker 3>It's not an easy process. And when you when you

774
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:43.119
<v Speaker 3>are in a position where you have to make difficult decisions,

775
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:45.880
<v Speaker 3>not everyone is going to agree with those decisions, and

776
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:47.239
<v Speaker 3>some people are going to be unhappy.

777
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:48.079
<v Speaker 14>Uh.

778
00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:52.000
<v Speaker 3>And change is really really difficult, and it's especially difficult,

779
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:57.760
<v Speaker 3>uh in these times when the entire industry is changing

780
00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:01.960
<v Speaker 3>and you have to rethink a lot of things, you know,

781
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:05.079
<v Speaker 3>like you she talked about it as a one hundred

782
00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:10.760
<v Speaker 3>and tifty million dollar business that she is in charge of,

783
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:16.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, basically like a corporation, and that's just not

784
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:18.840
<v Speaker 3>like how we grew up thinking about athletic departments.

785
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:20.400
<v Speaker 5>But that's the reality of the situation.

786
00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:22.960
<v Speaker 6>And she talked about the coaches that I'll have these

787
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:26.920
<v Speaker 6>contracts coming up from from Caitlin to Ada, Barns and Chip.

788
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:29.480
<v Speaker 8>I mean, it's a lot to do here next year.

789
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:32.920
<v Speaker 5>That Yeah, that list is extentive.

790
00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:35.960
<v Speaker 3>She went over all to list them all, but like

791
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:39.480
<v Speaker 3>I think the majority of the quote unquote non revenue

792
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:43.360
<v Speaker 3>sports coaches contracts are up in either twenty twenty five

793
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:46.519
<v Speaker 3>or twenty twenty six. Wow, So she has a lot

794
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:49.960
<v Speaker 3>of work ahead just figure out like who she's going

795
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:54.440
<v Speaker 3>to keep and who you know, and what sports maybe

796
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:56.440
<v Speaker 3>we'll we'll have a change of some sort.

797
00:37:57.280 --> 00:37:59.199
<v Speaker 5>She's very methodical about that.

798
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:02.519
<v Speaker 3>And the only coach that she's given any sort of

799
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:03.880
<v Speaker 3>contract extension to so.

800
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Far is Tommynis oh Tennis Tommyhip.

801
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:16.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that was that was orchestrated by the previous regime.

802
00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:18.960
<v Speaker 3>I think it like it might have happened like on

803
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:22.039
<v Speaker 3>the day that desire started or a couple of days after,

804
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:23.800
<v Speaker 3>but she had nothing to do with it kind of

805
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:28.360
<v Speaker 3>already in the works. So yeah, and yeah, obviously did

806
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:30.039
<v Speaker 3>Dean Bornes. When I think we've talked about it that

807
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:32.480
<v Speaker 3>something's going to come to a head here in the

808
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:35.519
<v Speaker 3>next few weeks one way or the other. Could be

809
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:39.360
<v Speaker 3>a stalemate situation, but you know, hopefully we'll have some

810
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:41.559
<v Speaker 3>clarity on that to make them later.

811
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:44.880
<v Speaker 6>Did she talk about the TV deal and how things

812
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:47.320
<v Speaker 6>have gone this first year where you know, we hear

813
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:49.159
<v Speaker 6>from the fans. No, I can't find the game on

814
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:51.880
<v Speaker 6>ESPN Play. I mean, if she talked about how fans

815
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:54.599
<v Speaker 6>have adapted to the TV situation.

816
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:57.079
<v Speaker 3>No, that that was not No, we did not bring

817
00:38:57.159 --> 00:38:59.159
<v Speaker 3>up that particular topic.

818
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:02.840
<v Speaker 2>What about the Arizona what about the what about the

819
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:05.559
<v Speaker 2>radio deal with you know, the Brian Jeffries one of them, Yeah,

820
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:06.559
<v Speaker 2>Arizona Sports.

821
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:08.039
<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, that's that's pretty good.

822
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:08.559
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

823
00:39:09.239 --> 00:39:13.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she said that they've done uh he said that

824
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:17.360
<v Speaker 3>they've sold ninety eight percent, ninety eight percent of their

825
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:18.280
<v Speaker 3>goal in terms of.

826
00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:23.400
<v Speaker 5>Sales for that So yeah, and I thought that was

827
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:24.840
<v Speaker 5>a pretty.

828
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:27.119
<v Speaker 2>Bold yes that she made.

829
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:31.400
<v Speaker 3>I was recommended to them in that instant young audit

830
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:32.559
<v Speaker 3>that they received.

831
00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:35.840
<v Speaker 5>But you know, sometimes when you're in this position, you've

832
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:39.079
<v Speaker 5>got to pick some risks too. And I think you know,

833
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:42.760
<v Speaker 5>if you listen to a radio broadcast. The quality is

834
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:46.920
<v Speaker 5>the same. Brian Jeffries is still there, which I think

835
00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:49.800
<v Speaker 5>was a very very big deal for Arizona fans, Like

836
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:52.360
<v Speaker 5>when that was happening, like his contract was.

837
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:54.039
<v Speaker 3>You know, a little bit up in the air and

838
00:39:54.440 --> 00:39:56.239
<v Speaker 3>a little uncertainty about how that would go.

839
00:39:57.159 --> 00:39:58.679
<v Speaker 5>Regarding est and Plus.

840
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:03.679
<v Speaker 3>I think that it has been enough positive to have

841
00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:06.039
<v Speaker 3>the ESPN Plus that's an option. The one thing that's

842
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:09.280
<v Speaker 3>kind of weird though, is like during the Big twelve tournament.

843
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:10.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you guys noticed this, but like

844
00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:14.119
<v Speaker 3>the game would end and there'd be no like shoulder

845
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:16.880
<v Speaker 3>programming or whatever in between, which was something that you

846
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:20.400
<v Speaker 3>got a lot of with the Tack twelve networks, especially

847
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:22.719
<v Speaker 3>in those postings and tournaments. You know that that time

848
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:26.000
<v Speaker 3>between the games where they'd have a studio desk or whatever.

849
00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:28.840
<v Speaker 3>So maybe that's something that the Big twelve can work

850
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:29.719
<v Speaker 3>on moving forward.

851
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:32.039
<v Speaker 6>Okay, the only time they had any kind of shoulder

852
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:34.199
<v Speaker 6>was during the last couple of games when they're really

853
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<v Speaker 6>on the Big ESPN they had some stuff going on.

854
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<v Speaker 6>But you're right, during the week, correct, Yeah, they did.

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<v Speaker 3>Have an ESPN Plus only like post game championship ceremony

856
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<v Speaker 3>kind of thing.

857
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:47.079
<v Speaker 5>But it was you know, I don't know that was

858
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<v Speaker 5>that was one difference that.

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<v Speaker 3>I noticed, you know, when it came to those those

860
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<v Speaker 3>big postings and events that were really a great showcase

861
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<v Speaker 3>for what TACK twelve Networks was able to do.

862
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<v Speaker 2>Lastly, we got about to We're way over. But so

863
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<v Speaker 2>give me a minute, just us in office. On the

864
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:03.519
<v Speaker 2>men's basketball situation. Are they going to get to the

865
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<v Speaker 2>sweet sixteen?

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00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:09.000
<v Speaker 3>I think there's a very good chance, I think from

867
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:11.159
<v Speaker 3>what I understand and I came to here and Jason

868
00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:15.079
<v Speaker 3>Akron playing basketball single time this year. But the team

869
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:17.840
<v Speaker 3>that plays really fast, yeah, doesn't play a lot of defense,

870
00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:20.760
<v Speaker 3>doesn't have a lot of side I think, you know,

871
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:23.840
<v Speaker 3>that is a team that Arizona I think can handle.

872
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:29.199
<v Speaker 3>Hopefully they won't have their full focus and attention on Akron.

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00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:32.360
<v Speaker 5>We know what can happen if you don't right then,

874
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:32.840
<v Speaker 5>you know.

875
00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:36.000
<v Speaker 3>I've heard some people say that maybe you know, Oregon

876
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:38.840
<v Speaker 3>could be susceptible on the other side, which would be

877
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:41.639
<v Speaker 3>interesting to say. At least I personally would love to

878
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<v Speaker 3>see in Oregon Arizona matchup definitely would sort of be

879
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:50.039
<v Speaker 3>nostalgic kind of thing for those of us you know

880
00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:52.760
<v Speaker 3>who grew up in the Pac twelve or came to

881
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:55.679
<v Speaker 3>love the Pac twelve after moving out to the West coast.

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00:41:56.280 --> 00:41:58.360
<v Speaker 5>That would be a lot of fun. But I do

883
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<v Speaker 5>think that they have a.

884
00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:02.440
<v Speaker 3>Very reasonable talent to the Sweet sixteen and that might

885
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:05.039
<v Speaker 3>be where their season ends two because Duke is on

886
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:08.519
<v Speaker 3>the other side, and we I've all seen what Duke

887
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:10.360
<v Speaker 3>is capable of if they unhealthy.

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00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:13.159
<v Speaker 2>Right right, Well, Michael, thanks as always. I we'll talk

889
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:17.199
<v Speaker 2>to you soon. Good luck, Thank you. I think Michael

890
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:18.960
<v Speaker 2>love from the daily start. We got to go. We're

891
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<v Speaker 2>way over. We'll come back in about five minutes. If

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<v Speaker 2>is an insight to how he built the program into

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to the ball here on Fox Sports

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen fifty I'm Steve you're Dave got Kobe at the

959
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<v Speaker 2>main gate here. We got about five six minutes. We

960
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<v Speaker 2>went rather a long, but I wanted to get as

961
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<v Speaker 2>many questions I could anything strike you.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I think it's I think we're seeing year two

963
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:17.840
<v Speaker 6>of the Desiree read Francois Era kind of underway. He's

964
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<v Speaker 6>talking about this caravan. It's going to mostly be in

965
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<v Speaker 6>Tucson all over town. She's making appearances. I know she's

966
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:25.599
<v Speaker 6>going to be at the Rotary talking later this or

967
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<v Speaker 6>next month.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>So there's and I'm sure Brent will be.

970
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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's been available too. He's been doing that too.

971
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<v Speaker 2>It's funny, he hinted to this if directly said that

972
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<v Speaker 2>he was very He had his notes right right away.

973
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:42.760
<v Speaker 2>He said, I brought some notes about Well, I'm sure

974
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:45.280
<v Speaker 2>that came from somewhere else. Yeah, you know, you need

975
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<v Speaker 2>to be more this. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean they've got communication people in the in the department,

977
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:52.440
<v Speaker 6>and I'm sure either conversations that he's had with the

978
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<v Speaker 6>with the leadership has probably prompted that.

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<v Speaker 8>I think it's, you know, it's important again.

980
00:46:57.400 --> 00:46:58.920
<v Speaker 6>I'm looking at it now as a as kind of

981
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<v Speaker 6>a fan and a spectator and what am I seeing?

982
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:01.039
<v Speaker 18>How?

983
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<v Speaker 1>My?

984
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:03.679
<v Speaker 6>How is this the image of the program you know,

985
00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:05.880
<v Speaker 6>playing out here and what it's going to look like

986
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:07.159
<v Speaker 6>in the summer? Like do I want to go to

987
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:09.440
<v Speaker 6>that game on you know, early September when it's still

988
00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:10.360
<v Speaker 6>going to be one hundred degrees?

989
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:12.280
<v Speaker 2>Was the team going to be any good? One of

990
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:14.920
<v Speaker 2>the things I should text him. But he answered the

991
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:18.880
<v Speaker 2>question that the debt could be done by next what

992
00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:21.800
<v Speaker 2>thirteen fourteen months? Fifteen months here, next year in twenty

993
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:25.639
<v Speaker 2>twenty six, that's what he said, right. What was the number?

994
00:47:26.039 --> 00:47:28.599
<v Speaker 2>What was the overall number? Even if it was forty

995
00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:31.559
<v Speaker 2>five million, that's pretty impressive. Yeah, even if it was

996
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:33.639
<v Speaker 2>twenty and five. You know what I'm saying, Because everybody,

997
00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:38.039
<v Speaker 2>everybody across the board, most everybody is in debt. I

998
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:41.000
<v Speaker 2>know that UNLV is in debt. I know that a

999
00:47:41.079 --> 00:47:43.760
<v Speaker 2>issues in debt, except that they didn't get the publicity

1000
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:46.400
<v Speaker 2>that Arizona got right because.

1001
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:49.400
<v Speaker 6>The whole school when it hit, as opposed to just athletics. Right,

1002
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:52.159
<v Speaker 6>what about this twenty million dollars it's coming?

1003
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<v Speaker 2>Is another thing?

1004
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:54.880
<v Speaker 8>Was that helpful in this debt situation?

1005
00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:56.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't think so, I don't know but

1006
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<v Speaker 2>that's another thing coming.

1007
00:47:58.320 --> 00:47:58.519
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

1008
00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Right, you're gonna have a student athletes making two hundred

1009
00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:06.079
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars a year, right, if not more because the

1010
00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:07.960
<v Speaker 2>nil on top of that.

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00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:11.639
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and again talking to some people over there too,

1012
00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:14.039
<v Speaker 6>you know, so much that depends on the position that

1013
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:16.239
<v Speaker 6>they play to, Like the offensive tackles are going to

1014
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:19.079
<v Speaker 6>make more than the offensive guards because they're protecting the quarterback.

1015
00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:21.760
<v Speaker 6>And it's amazing how that money is broken out.

1016
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:24.239
<v Speaker 2>Right, and the teams and the team is not a

1017
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:27.400
<v Speaker 2>title line issue right where the women's teams will not

1018
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:28.719
<v Speaker 2>get as much as the men's teams.

1019
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but a lot of these schools are really making

1020
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<v Speaker 6>sure that the non revenue sports athletes are getting to

1021
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:38.119
<v Speaker 6>getting something. I know Arizona was early on in that.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know where it stands now, but you know

1023
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:42.400
<v Speaker 6>there are people in town who are like responsible for

1024
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:44.719
<v Speaker 6>trying to get that collective put together.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you when you did your your magic for the fundrating? Yeah?

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00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:53.599
<v Speaker 2>Did you? Did you? I'm sure you have a lot

1027
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<v Speaker 2>of people scouring Tucson. You were not one of those, right.

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<v Speaker 6>It depended I mean, yeah, I mean most most of

1029
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<v Speaker 6>the alumni are in Arizona here in Phoenix, Americopa County,

1030
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<v Speaker 6>so they're all over the state. So, yeah, people, there

1031
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:11.559
<v Speaker 6>was a book I don't remember who wrote it was

1032
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<v Speaker 6>called The Millionaire next Door. You know, sometimes you just

1033
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<v Speaker 6>don't know that that money could just be sitting there,

1034
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<v Speaker 6>you know, close to town, but they're there.

1035
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<v Speaker 2>To my point is, how did you have clients locally? Yeah? Okay,

1036
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<v Speaker 2>was it difficult?

1037
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<v Speaker 8>Not really because you could take them right to campus.

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00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:31.440
<v Speaker 10>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>That was that was a key in the world.

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<v Speaker 6>And if you know, if you've ever been on the

1041
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<v Speaker 6>other end and you're getting approached lots of times, you

1042
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<v Speaker 6>want to see, what's my money going towards? And here

1043
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<v Speaker 6>was right here in town, and you could maybe if

1044
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<v Speaker 6>it's going to be something significant, you know, maybe get

1045
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:48.280
<v Speaker 6>a lunch with Brent Brennan or a lunch with the

1046
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<v Speaker 6>athletic director where they can really lay it out for

1047
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<v Speaker 6>you how important your.

1048
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<v Speaker 8>Gift would be. Yeah, so it was in a way

1049
00:49:54.679 --> 00:49:56.039
<v Speaker 8>it was nice to have them here in town.

1050
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, because we all talk about you know, there's

1051
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<v Speaker 2>not a lot of money here, but I guess the

1052
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<v Speaker 2>millionaire next door is the millionaire could be next door,

1053
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<v Speaker 2>you ever know.

1054
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I was in Foothills today walking around there, it's

1055
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:11.159
<v Speaker 6>pretty nice up there. Most of those people, many of

1056
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<v Speaker 6>them are not from U of A or what and

1057
00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:15.199
<v Speaker 6>they just happen to move here or they live here

1058
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<v Speaker 6>part time.

1059
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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna talk a lot, We're not. We don't have

1060
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<v Speaker 2>a guest here at four seventeen unless I get one

1061
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:23.480
<v Speaker 2>in the next few minutes. But let's a story about

1062
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<v Speaker 2>the possible ability of having the postseason here, you know

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<v Speaker 2>the other four I'm not too sure. And I say

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<v Speaker 2>this because, uh, these teams would not be for any

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<v Speaker 2>who are close to here. And yes it was one

1066
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<v Speaker 2>of two sons of basketball town. Would they go see

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Illinois State or some other school? They have

1068
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:45.719
<v Speaker 2>no ties there, who knows?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean what tonight we have with San Diego State

1070
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<v Speaker 6>and North Carolina Lane and the other game is the

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<v Speaker 6>sixteens A right, two sixteen So I don't even know

1072
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<v Speaker 6>those two. Yeah, that's gonna be right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if North Carolina paint center, you State, you'd

1074
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<v Speaker 2>have a pretty good turnout. Yeah. I'm curious just to

1075
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<v Speaker 2>see what's Carolina because they're the they're the car wreck, right,

1076
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:06.719
<v Speaker 2>they maybe not should have been in they're in. See

1077
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<v Speaker 2>how they react, we'll San Diego State step up.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what I'm saying. There's a lot of intrigue there.

1079
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<v Speaker 6>How did how did Dayton get those games? Do you

1080
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<v Speaker 6>remember how that happened? And all of a sudden it

1081
00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:18.239
<v Speaker 6>was like Dayton and dating, you know, and they I

1082
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<v Speaker 6>mean I can see and sort of understand being in

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<v Speaker 6>the middle of the country, and you know, they win

1084
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<v Speaker 6>and they.

1085
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<v Speaker 8>Get to go easy to get to get to get

1086
00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:25.079
<v Speaker 8>in and out.

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<v Speaker 6>But I remember you and I remember going to Dayton

1088
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<v Speaker 6>in nineteen ninety five.

1089
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:32.559
<v Speaker 2>Or whatever it was. It was brutal. Yeah, we flewed

1090
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<v Speaker 2>Indie Apple. Yeah, we had to drive. We had to drive.

1091
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah we didn't fly into We flew right by and drove.

1092
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<v Speaker 6>But I wonder how that would work, you know, I

1093
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<v Speaker 6>guess you know, we would have quite a month. We

1094
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<v Speaker 6>be right on the tail end of the book festival

1095
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<v Speaker 6>if they had it. You're right today, Well there's.

1096
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<v Speaker 2>Timing because right book festival break, women's basketball is women's tournament. Uh,

1097
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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of things around that, around that that

1098
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<v Speaker 2>you have to accommodate.

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<v Speaker 5>Ya.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, even if whatever this, you know, the tournament

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<v Speaker 6>while the women are playing in but you know, if

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<v Speaker 6>it was an n C double a thing as well.

1103
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<v Speaker 6>It would be this weekend too, so I don't know,

1104
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<v Speaker 6>they'd have to put the put the calendar together.

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<v Speaker 8>Tell us well, the games would be.

1106
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<v Speaker 6>What Tuesdays and Wednesdays, so it would be pretty quick

1107
00:52:11.599 --> 00:52:13.400
<v Speaker 6>and they'd be they'd be gone. But by the time

1108
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<v Speaker 6>the real tournament started.

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<v Speaker 2>A good idea. It depends it's just the teams that

1110
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<v Speaker 2>would come in and how much interest there would be

1111
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<v Speaker 2>from the locals.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, I don't know, make it, make it part of

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<v Speaker 6>the season ticket package.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for Michael f to be to uh to take

1115
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<v Speaker 2>a snap. Yeah, we'll see. Uh we got about well,

1116
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<v Speaker 2>we're ready to go, are we, Kobe? Uh, we'll come

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<v Speaker 2>back and the other side of your breaking news. Okay, cool,
