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<v Speaker 1>Fox thirty one's chief meteorologist, Dave Frasier. Dave, it's winter,

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<v Speaker 1>A winter's here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it is. Welcome to twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's kick the Dorian on winter. So what are we

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<v Speaker 1>looking at right now and how much of our weather

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<v Speaker 1>is polar vortex or just cold.

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<v Speaker 2>Just cold, just called As a matter of fact, you

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<v Speaker 2>probably saw the reports there the big storm earlier in

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<v Speaker 2>the week that just left us last weekend, that was

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<v Speaker 2>our Saturday storm and then rolled literally straight down I

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<v Speaker 2>seventy all the way to the east coast and just

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<v Speaker 2>retavoc all the way through the Midwest and into the

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio River Valley. They've got the you know, the polar

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<v Speaker 2>vortex and the poldest of it. We were on the

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<v Speaker 2>western fringe, but our pattern definitely switched. We knew that

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<v Speaker 2>a little more than a week ago that we get

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<v Speaker 2>into a little bit of a colder pattern that's certainly

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<v Speaker 2>going to trend through about next Tuesday before we start

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<v Speaker 2>to warm back into the forties. So we'll just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stay in the thirties. And we got two chances

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<v Speaker 2>for snow one tomorrow that one could accumulate the one

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<v Speaker 2>to two inches during the day and then we've got

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<v Speaker 2>a chance of a few flurries or light snowshows on

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday that one doesn't look to do much, so certainly

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<v Speaker 2>a more active pattern. But the good news we're ahead

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<v Speaker 2>for snow for where we are in the month of

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<v Speaker 2>January and for the here yay, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, as they say, we need the moisture, we

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<v Speaker 1>need the moisture. Speaking of needing the moisture, boy, what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening in California right now is really scary. How much

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, is there any relief coming for them that

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<v Speaker 1>you can see? Over those one hundred mile per hour

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<v Speaker 1>winds that they're facing. They're just driving these fires.

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<v Speaker 2>Later this afternoon and later tonight, the wind should start

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<v Speaker 2>to relax. So we were actually tracking that last night

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<v Speaker 2>our sister station KTLA in Los Angeles. We were taking

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<v Speaker 2>their feed. It's an unfortunate situation. The sant and the

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<v Speaker 2>winds were howling future cast wind speeds were going to

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<v Speaker 2>keep the speeds at the seventy plus mile per hour

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<v Speaker 2>all night last night and should start to relax a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit today. Now the wind's not going to go calm,

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<v Speaker 2>but those stronger gush should start to relax through the

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<v Speaker 2>day to day. But we all know, unfortunately here in Colorado,

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<v Speaker 2>what that can mean. The Marshall Fire obviously the most

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<v Speaker 2>recent one. Once you start to burn with that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a wind in neighborhoods with you know, natural brushes

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<v Speaker 2>and grasses and trees, it becomes you can't defend it,

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<v Speaker 2>winding roads up, kurvy terrain, EA kills and it's just impossible.

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<v Speaker 2>And you feel for the homeowners and the people who

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<v Speaker 2>had to flee and literally running from their cars, out

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<v Speaker 2>of their cars and running because the traffic was so

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<v Speaker 2>bad they felt like they just needed to keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a horrible situation. It's literally hell on earth,

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel for them.

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<v Speaker 1>I shudder to think what this is going to do

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<v Speaker 1>because these are this is going to be so catastrophic financially,

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to be devastating financially, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>it is probably going to be almost impossible for these

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<v Speaker 1>people to rebuild and expect to get homeowners insurance.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's a that's a conversation we were actually having

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<v Speaker 2>last night because I think you know, you've seen that

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<v Speaker 2>in parts of Florida when when hurricanes, you know, hit

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<v Speaker 2>certain areas over and over again, the insurance companies just

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<v Speaker 2>pull out. They're like, Nope, we're not insuring in that

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<v Speaker 2>area again because the loss is just is too much.

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<v Speaker 2>And I agree with you. If you if your home

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<v Speaker 2>is burned, first of all, and you don't have insurance,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you do if you do have insurance? How

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<v Speaker 2>quickly can you get the funds? Do you want to

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<v Speaker 2>rebuild in this area? And you try and sell the property,

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<v Speaker 2>the land, the charred land, who's come buy it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I mean the views are going to be magnificent

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<v Speaker 1>again at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not like.

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<v Speaker 1>They get a lot of rain to repopulate that area

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<v Speaker 1>with greenery. This is just it's devastating what's happening right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't mean to go down that road.

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<v Speaker 2>But so are they?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any like a further weather relief that they

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<v Speaker 1>can expect? I mean, what is their precipitation situation?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I haven't looked beyond that. What we what

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<v Speaker 2>would love to be able to do is talk about

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the old the Pineapple Express, or an atmosphere

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<v Speaker 2>river or something that would point the fire hose towards

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<v Speaker 2>the west coast and help them out. I don't see

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that that. The pattern right now is more

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<v Speaker 2>Pacific northwest and across Colorado and the Rockies and on

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<v Speaker 2>to the east than it is from the southwest and

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<v Speaker 2>in their direction. So hopefully they can get some relief,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sometime soon. But yeah, I think the overall pattern,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this is that dry part of the year. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>when those winds pick up out there, all it takes

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<v Speaker 2>is a small spark, and it always seems to happen,

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunately when the winds are roaring.

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Fraser, I didn't even look to see if we

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<v Speaker 1>had weather questions. Hang on, let me open up the

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<v Speaker 1>e Commons burials tack line five sixty six. N I

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<v Speaker 1>know this question for you, Dave. When you say the

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Ana winds last night on your weather broadcast, did

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<v Speaker 1>you say they come down from the east side of

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<v Speaker 1>the Sierra Nevada Mountains.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they blow. They blow from the mountains to the

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<v Speaker 2>west towards the Pacific Ocean. So what happens is high pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>The wind around high pressure goes clockwise, and so high

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<v Speaker 2>pressure builds on the east side of the sand of

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<v Speaker 2>the Sierra Mountain range and the wind flows around that

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<v Speaker 2>down the face of the Sierras, goes through some of

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<v Speaker 2>the lower elevations and the desert areas, it compresses, it heat,

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<v Speaker 2>it picks up the dry air. Then it continues to

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<v Speaker 2>roll over the higher terrain in the cliffs and the

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<v Speaker 2>ledges towards the west coast and down into those communities,

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<v Speaker 2>and it blasts out through the canyons, and so the

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<v Speaker 2>canyon's funnel and strengthen the wind. We see that here

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. We talked on your show many times

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<v Speaker 2>about downsloping wind and how it's a drying wind. So

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<v Speaker 2>as you move the air here in Colorado from the

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<v Speaker 2>mountains in an easterly direction down towards Denver, that downward

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<v Speaker 2>motion is like turning on a hair dryer. It compresses,

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<v Speaker 2>it heats, and it drives the air. And so we

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<v Speaker 2>end up with that. And we see at times when

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<v Speaker 2>the wind is funneling through like Chake Cole Creek Canyon.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get a blast of wind out along Highway

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<v Speaker 2>ninety three between Boulder and Golden that is just, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just unbelievable, flipping trucks over. So they're dealing with it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just going the other way. It's going west. Towards

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<v Speaker 2>the ocean. As a matter of fact, those fires were

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<v Speaker 2>driven right up to the Pacific Coast Highway and the

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<v Speaker 2>next stop was the ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I got one more question for you, Dave. This

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<v Speaker 1>one about something I know about and hate. Out of

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<v Speaker 1>all of our weather things that you can endure on

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<v Speaker 1>a regular basis, ice storms are the worst, and I

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<v Speaker 1>experience them in Kentucky. And I have a listener who

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<v Speaker 1>just moved to Kentucky who said back this question. Mandy

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<v Speaker 1>asked Dave how a snowstorm can turn to an ice

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<v Speaker 1>storm when the temperature on the ground doesn't change. First,

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky ice storm wasn't really fun and ice storms are horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>So that part of the country I'm familiar because I

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<v Speaker 2>lived in Cincinnati ice belt area from say Saint Louis

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<v Speaker 2>across you know, across the Midwest Saint Louis over towards

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<v Speaker 2>you know, say, Cincinnati and parts of Kentucky. And what

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<v Speaker 2>happens is you have a shallow layer of cold air

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<v Speaker 2>at the ground. The temperature doesn't need to change. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just cold enough that as the moisture comes through, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not freezing overhead, so it's not coming as snow. It's

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<v Speaker 2>coming as rain. It gets into that cold, shallow layer

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<v Speaker 2>close to the ground and it freezes on contact. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's just one of those situations where everything

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<v Speaker 2>in the lowest part of the of the atmosphere at

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<v Speaker 2>ground level is cold enough that any moisture that hits

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<v Speaker 2>it freezes instantly, and so you don't you're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to get a lot of temperature. Now if it was,

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<v Speaker 2>if it was colder, then you would be dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>all snow as the snowflakes fall to the ground, but

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<v Speaker 2>you're not. You're dealing with warmer air aloft hitting colder

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<v Speaker 2>air at the surface, and it just turns into a

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<v Speaker 2>sheet of ice and accumulating ice, and it is nasty and.

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<v Speaker 1>It hangs on your power lines and then they snap

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<v Speaker 1>and it is just the most miserable experience to just

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<v Speaker 1>get through it. It's so awful.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Yeah, go ahead, Dad, We'll take six inches of

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<v Speaker 2>snow over a tenth of an inch of ice.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen to that, my friend, Amen to that. Dave Fraser,

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<v Speaker 1>Good to talk to you as always. We will chat

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<v Speaker 1>again next week. Happy twenty twenty five, my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's hope it's a good one. It will be

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<v Speaker 2>well willing to be.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll do the assumed clothes, all right, Dave uh, there

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<v Speaker 1>you go.