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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bedtime Astronomy. Explore the wonders of the cosmos

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<v Speaker 1>with our soothing Bedtime Astronomie podcast. Each episode offers a

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<v Speaker 1>gentle journey through the stars, planets, and beyond, perfect for

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<v Speaker 1>unwinding after a long day. Let's travel through the mysteries

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe as you drift off into a peaceful

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<v Speaker 1>slumber under the night sky.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to just close your eyes for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Try to imagine the absolute most extreme environment you can

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<v Speaker 2>possibly conceive of. Oh wow, okay, yeah, And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>just mean like a place that's uncomfortably hot. I want

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<v Speaker 2>you to picture an entirely different physical reality.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, like completely alien exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine you're standing on a shoreline, but the ocean stretching

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<v Speaker 2>out in front of you, it isn't made of water.

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<v Speaker 2>It is this vast, churning sea of molten silicate rock,

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<v Speaker 2>just glowing this deep orange in the dark.

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<v Speaker 3>That is terrifying it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And you look up and the sky isn't blue, It's

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<v Speaker 2>this thick, suffocating, opaque haze. And the smell, the smell

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<v Speaker 2>of the air around you is just punishingly toxic. It's

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<v Speaker 2>overwhelmingly dominated by the scent of rotting eggs.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a literal sensory nightmare. I mean, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>hellscape of the highest order where the very concept of

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<v Speaker 3>a solid surface basically ceases to exist.

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<v Speaker 2>It really does. But the crazy thing is we are

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<v Speaker 2>talking about a very real place. It's a super earth

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<v Speaker 2>known as L ninety eight fifty nine DY, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Is about thirty five light years away from us, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the constellation Vila.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly thirty five light years. But we aren't going

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<v Speaker 2>on a mental journey to this world today just for

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<v Speaker 2>the novelty of, you know, looking at a bizarre, stinky planet.

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<v Speaker 3>No, definitely not. There's a much bigger reason, right, We.

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<v Speaker 2>Are looking at this specific world because it actually happens

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<v Speaker 2>to be the smoking gun that solves one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most frustrating cold cases in modern astronomy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh absolutely, it's a total game changer.

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<v Speaker 2>So before we even talk about the molten notions or

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<v Speaker 2>the toxics guy, we kind of need to set the

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<v Speaker 2>stakes for you because for years planetary scientists have basically

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<v Speaker 2>been staring at this massive glaring hole in our map

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<v Speaker 2>of the galaxy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the Radius Valley, or some people call it the

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<v Speaker 3>Fulton Gap that was the original name when the Kepler

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<v Speaker 3>Space telescope data first brought it to light, the Fulton Gap,

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<v Speaker 3>and it is one of the most profound mysteries in

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<v Speaker 3>exoplanet demographics. I mean, when you plot out every single

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<v Speaker 3>small exoplanet we have ever discovered on a graph, just

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<v Speaker 3>based on their physical size, you expect to see relatively

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<v Speaker 3>smooth distribution like a Bell curve, right exactly like a

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<v Speaker 3>Bell curve, or maybe you know, a steady drop off

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<v Speaker 3>as planets get larger and harder to form.

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<v Speaker 2>But instead the graph looks, well, it looks like a

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<v Speaker 2>mountain range with this massive canyon carved right down the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so weird, it really is a canyon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So we see this huge peak of rocky planets

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<v Speaker 2>that are about the size of Earth up to maybe

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<v Speaker 2>like one point four times Earth's radius, right the terrestrial worlds,

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<v Speaker 2>and then further down the graph we see another huge

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<v Speaker 2>peak of planets that are bigger around two to three

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<v Speaker 2>times Earth's radius.

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<v Speaker 3>The mini Neptunes. Those are the ones with thick, puffy atmospheres.

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<v Speaker 2>AGAs exactly, but right in the middle between one point

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<v Speaker 2>five and two times the size of Earth. The population

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<v Speaker 2>of planets just absolutely plummet.

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<v Speaker 3>It's complete dead zone.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just empty.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the planets simply go missing in that size bracket.

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<v Speaker 3>And the thing is, it is statistically impossible for that

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<v Speaker 3>gap to be an accident of our observation methods.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, it's not just a glitch in the telescopes.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not at all. The universe is actively preventing planets

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<v Speaker 3>from staying in that specific size range. Or and this

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<v Speaker 3>was the leading idea, it's rapidly stripping them down so

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<v Speaker 3>they fall into the smaller category.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So the leading theory for a long time was atmospheric.

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<v Speaker 4>Loss yep photo evaporation, the idea being that a planet

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<v Speaker 4>might form with a thick hydrogen envelope, which puts it

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<v Speaker 4>in that larger mini neptune category, but if it orbits

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<v Speaker 4>too close to its host star, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Intense radiation just eventually boils that atmosphere away.

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<v Speaker 2>It boils away, the planet shrinks, crosses that forbidden zone

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<v Speaker 2>of the radius valley really quickly. It ends up just

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<v Speaker 2>a bare, rocky core on the other.

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<v Speaker 3>Side, exactly. And so the assumption for decades was that

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<v Speaker 3>planetary evolution is fundamentally a story of subtractions attraction.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you start big, the star strips you, you end

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<v Speaker 3>It was this really neat binary framework. Path one you

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<v Speaker 3>somehow hold onto your gas, maybe you're far enough away

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<v Speaker 3>from the star and you stay a mini neptune. And

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<v Speaker 3>path two, Path two is your star strips you naked

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<v Speaker 3>and you become a bare rock, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Is so intuitive it makes perfect physical sense.

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<v Speaker 3>It does, especially based on how aggressive we know young

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<v Speaker 3>stars can be, particularly the en dwarfs, the red dwarf stars.

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<v Speaker 2>And those are the most common stars in our galaxy.

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<v Speaker 3>Right by far, and they are notorious for violent stellar

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<v Speaker 3>flares and this intense extreme ultraviolet radiation that basically acts

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<v Speaker 3>like a blow torch on planetary atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 2>A blow to That's a great way to put it,

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<v Speaker 2>which brings us back to our target. L ninety eight

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<v Speaker 2>fifty nine D yes the rule breaker.

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<v Speaker 3>Because this specific planet, in this specific star system just

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<v Speaker 3>completely breaks that binary framework. It literally forces us to

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<v Speaker 3>rewrite the fundamental physics of how planets evolve and survived.

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<v Speaker 2>It really does, and the whole unraveling of this mystery,

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<v Speaker 2>it actually started with a cosmic weight problem.

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<v Speaker 3>A weight problem. I love that the severe density anomaly.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, so L ninety eight fifty nine D was first

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<v Speaker 2>discovered back in twenty nineteen by NASA's Tests satellite.

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<v Speaker 3>Tests the Transiting Exoplanet Survey.

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<v Speaker 2>Satellite exactly and tests uses the transit photometry method. It

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<v Speaker 2>basically stares at a patch of sky and just waits

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<v Speaker 2>for a star's light to.

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<v Speaker 3>Dim just a tiny fraction of a percent, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>a microscopic dip in light, and that indicates that a

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<v Speaker 3>planet has crossed in front of it. And based on

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<v Speaker 3>how much light is blocked, we can calculate the physical

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<v Speaker 3>volume the size of the planet, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Test told us that L ninety eight to fifty nine

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<v Speaker 2>DY is roughly one point six times the size.

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<v Speaker 3>Of Earth, which drops it squarely into the danger zone

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<v Speaker 3>right in the middle of a canyon. It's sitting right

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<v Speaker 3>on the edge of that forbidden radius valley. It is

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<v Speaker 3>in the transition zone.

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<v Speaker 2>But just knowing the physical volume of a planet is

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<v Speaker 2>only the first step.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, to understand what a planet is actually made of,

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<v Speaker 3>you need its mass.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to weigh it exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And for that astronomers use ground based spectrographs to measure

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<v Speaker 3>the radial velocity. That's the tiny, tiny gravitational wobble. The

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<v Speaker 3>planet induces on its host star.

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<v Speaker 2>So the planet pulls on the star.

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<v Speaker 3>A little bit. It does, and when you have the

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<v Speaker 3>volume from the transit and you have the mass from.

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<v Speaker 2>The wobble, you can calculate the overall bulk density.

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<v Speaker 3>BINGO, and the density of L ninety eight to fifty

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<v Speaker 3>nine D immediately set off alarm bells for everyone looking

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<v Speaker 2>Because if you have a planet that's one point six

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<v Speaker 2>times the size of Earth and it's sitting incredibly close

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<v Speaker 2>to its host star, you expect a very specific composition.

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<v Speaker 3>You really do. The radiation environment is so brutal there

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<v Speaker 3>that any primordial fluffy envelope of hydrogen and helium it

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<v Speaker 3>should have been photo evaporated away billions of years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>So you expect to find a dense, bare terrestrial rock

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<v Speaker 2>like an iron core surrounded by a solid silicate mantle, right.

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<v Speaker 3>But the radio velocity measurements revealed something entirely different. The

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<v Speaker 3>mass of the planet was just far, far too low

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<v Speaker 3>for its physical.

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<v Speaker 2>Size, so it's huge, but it's really light.

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<v Speaker 3>The density was abnormally low. It was much lighter than

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<v Speaker 3>a pure rocky world of that diameter.

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<v Speaker 2>Should ever be Okay, let's unpack this for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's like picking up a bowling ball right

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<v Speaker 2>and expecting it to be super heavy, but you realize

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<v Speaker 2>it weighs as much as a styrofoam block.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a perfect analogy.

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<v Speaker 2>Your brain immediately knows something is just fundamentally wrong with

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<v Speaker 2>the recipe. The math just doesn't add up.

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<v Speaker 3>It really doesn't. You have this massive volume but missing mass. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>And the traditional models they basically leave you with two

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<v Speaker 3>options for a low density world.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what's option A.

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<v Speaker 3>Option eight is the gas dwarf scenario. We just discussed

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<v Speaker 3>a small rocky with a huge, puffy hydrogen atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we already ruled that out right exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>We ruled it out because the red dwarf's high energy

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<v Speaker 3>X ray and UV emissions would have stripped a lightweight

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<v Speaker 3>hydrogen atmosphere away eons ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the system is five billion years old. A

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<v Speaker 2>primordial hydrogen envelope simply cannot survive there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's physically impossible. The stellar wind would act like a

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<v Speaker 3>sand blaster over those timescales. The retention of a primordial

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<v Speaker 3>envelope at that orbital distance is just untenable.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so option A is out. That leaves option B

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<v Speaker 2>for a low density planet, the water world.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, the water world.

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<v Speaker 2>A planet with a smaller rocky core, but it's enveloped

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<v Speaker 2>by this massive, deep ocean of liquid water, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>an incredibly thicked shell of high pressure ice.

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<v Speaker 3>And that makes sense on paper because water is significantly

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<v Speaker 3>less dense than iron and silicate rock.

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<v Speaker 2>So incorporating a huge fraction of water into the planet's

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<v Speaker 2>bulk composition perfectly explains the missing mass. Right. It expands

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<v Speaker 2>the volume without adding heavy metals.

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<v Speaker 3>It solves the density equation beautifully.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's always a butt.

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<v Speaker 3>There's always a butt. In astronomy, the problem is the

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<v Speaker 3>thermodynamic reality of the planet's orbit. L ninety eight fifty

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<v Speaker 3>nine D is tuck in so incredibly close to its

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<v Speaker 3>star that the stellar irradiation it receives is just astronomical.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right, We're talking surface temperatures estimated around nineteen hundred

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<v Speaker 3>Over thirty five hundred degrees fahrenheit.

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<v Speaker 2>Liquid water cannot exist in that regime, not even close.

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<v Speaker 3>No way. I mean, even if the planet had somehow

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<v Speaker 3>snow line and then migrated inward over millions of years.

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<v Speaker 2>Water wouldn't stick around, it would.

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<v Speaker 3>Not remain stable. It would vaporize into this massive steam atmosphere,

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<v Speaker 3>and water vapor in the upper atmosphere is highly susceptible

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<v Speaker 3>to photoed association.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, photo association explain that process.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically, the intense UV light from the red dwarf would

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<v Speaker 3>act like a hammer. It would literally shatter the water

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<v Speaker 3>molecules apart in to hydrogen and oxygen.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, so it just breaks the water apart exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>The lighter hydrogen escapes into space, the heavier oxygen falls

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<v Speaker 3>down and oxidizes the crust, and eventually the entire planet desiccates.

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<v Speaker 2>It just rusts and dries out completely if the dead end.

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<v Speaker 2>So it can't be rock because it's too light, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It can't be a gas dwarf because the stellar wind

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<v Speaker 2>and the star would shatter the steam exactly. So what

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<v Speaker 2>is it? I mean? The planetary science community was essentially

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<v Speaker 2>looking at a ghost. Something was taking up a massive

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<v Speaker 2>planet's volume up to one point six earth radii.

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<v Speaker 3>But resisting the blow torch of the red dwarf star

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<v Speaker 3>for five billion years. It's just wild.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you even begin to solve that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, honestly, it was an intractable problem with the observatories

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<v Speaker 2>Because we only had tests and ground based telescopes.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, we could measure sure the bulk parameters, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the mass and the radius. Yeah, but those numbers only

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<v Speaker 2>They just told us what it could be exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>To figure out what was actually inflating this planet, we

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<v Speaker 2>We needed to read the chemical bar code of whatever

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<v Speaker 3>World, which requires transmissions Pictrosky.

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<v Speaker 2>And doing that on a small, rocky super Earth thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five light years away, I mean, that is an entirely

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<v Speaker 2>different ballgame than looking at a giant, puffy hot Jupiter.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's exponentially harder. The atmospheric signal you were trying

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<v Speaker 3>to isolate is microscopic. The scale of the measurement is.

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<v Speaker 2>Just staggering right, because when L ninety eight to fifty

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<v Speaker 3>Starlight, but the atmosphere, assuming it even has one, is

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have an analogy for this. To visualize this,

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<v Speaker 2>So the solid metal frame of the glass blocks the

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<v Speaker 2>translucent colored glass lets a tiny, tiny fraction of that

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you stand far enough back and analyze the

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<v Speaker 2>exact wavelengths of light that make it through the glass,

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<v Speaker 2>you can reverse engineer the chemical dyes used to color it.

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<v Speaker 3>Because certain chemicals absorb red light and others absorb blue.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, the missing colors tell you the composition of the barrier.

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<v Speaker 3>That is precisely the essence of transmission spectroscopy. It's so cool,

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<v Speaker 3>it really is. As the starlight from the red dwarf

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<v Speaker 3>filters through the incredibly thin atmospheric limb of L ninety

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<v Speaker 3>eight fifty nine D. The specific molecules suspended in that

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<v Speaker 2>Just like the stained glass.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly like the stained glass, they absorb very specific, quantifiable

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<v Speaker 2>And to see that, we needed a serious upgrade in

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<v Speaker 3>We need it the James Webb Space Telescope. When JWST

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<v Speaker 3>captures that filtered starlight, its near infrared spectram graph in

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<v Speaker 3>iro spec disperses the light into a high resolution spectrum,

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<v Speaker 3>and we just looked for the absorption.

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<v Speaker 2>Bands, the missing slivers of light.

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<v Speaker 3>Missing slivers exactly, and this signal.

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<v Speaker 2>To noise ratio required to detect those missing slavers on

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<v Speaker 2>a planet this small. I mean, that's literally why we

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<v Speaker 3>Previous telescopes just didn't have the sensitivity in the infrared

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<v Speaker 3>to see through the glare of the host star. JWFT

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<v Speaker 3>represents a total paradigm shift to our diagnostic capabilities.

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<v Speaker 2>So what happened when they actually pointed JWST at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the international team led by researchers at the University

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<v Speaker 3>of Oxford, they pointed jawst at this system analyze the

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<v Speaker 3>transmission spectrum, and the absorption features that popped out of

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<v Speaker 3>the data were entirely unexpected.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they didn't find the lightweight signatures of primordial hydrogen

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<v Speaker 2>and helium Nope, none, And they didn't find a saturated

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<v Speaker 2>signal of water vapor right right.

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<v Speaker 3>What they found were profound undeniable absorption bands corresponding to

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<v Speaker 3>heavy sulfur compounds sulfur specifically sulfur dioxide and hydrogen sulfide.

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<v Speaker 2>Hydrogen sulfide. Okay, here's where it gets really interesting. For

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<v Speaker 2>anyone who has ever been near a geyser or a

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<v Speaker 3>You know the visceral impact of hydrogen sulfide.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a highly toxic, incredibly pungent gas. Finding it

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<v Speaker 2>out in the cosmos isn't necessarily strange, right, Like we

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<v Speaker 2>see sulfur in planetary nebulas and young star forming regions.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, sulfur is common, but finding it dominating the thick

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<v Speaker 3>atmosphere of a blazing hot super Earth that changes the

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<v Speaker 3>entire physical model of the planet.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it immediately resolves the density anomaly.

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<v Speaker 3>It does, but and this is a big butt. It

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<v Speaker 3>introduces a severe dynamic paradox.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's break that down. How does it resolve the density?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, a heavily metallic, volatile rich atmosphere like one dominated

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<v Speaker 3>by sulfur to oxide and hydrogen sulfide has a much

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<v Speaker 3>higher mean molecular weight than a hydrogen helium envelope.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's heavier, it's denser.

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<v Speaker 3>It's denser, it hugs the planet tighter, and it is

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<v Speaker 3>significantly harder for the stellar wind to strip away.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like wearing heavier armor. It resists the photo of

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<v Speaker 2>operation blow towards much better than fluffy hydrogen exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And the sheer volume of this thick, heavy, hazy sulfur

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<v Speaker 3>envelope explains why the planet is puffed up to one

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<v Speaker 3>point six times the size of Earth without adding the

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<v Speaker 2>So the static math works. The puzzle pieces finally fit together.

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<v Speaker 3>The static math works, Yes, but planetary atmospheres are not static,

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<v Speaker 3>especially not in a compact orbit around a red dwarf.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, because even with the heavier molecular weight of sulfur

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<v Speaker 2>compounds the extreme ultraviolet radiation and the relentless stellar wind

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<v Speaker 2>over five billion years, it would still inexorably erode that atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 3>It might be harder to strip than hydrogen, but over

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<v Speaker 3>billions of years, it should still be gone.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to be bleeding into space. The physics of

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<v Speaker 2>the stellar wind literally demand it.

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<v Speaker 3>They do. Therefore, the fact that JWST observes a thick,

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<v Speaker 3>opaque sulfur envelope today, five billion years into the system's lifespan,

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<v Speaker 3>implies a terrifying reality. The atmosphere is not a primordial remnant.

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<v Speaker 3>It is not a leftover shell of gas from the

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<v Speaker 3>planet's berth. It is being actively, aggressively and continuously replenished.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, so the planet is bleeding sulfur into the sky

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<v Speaker 2>faster than the star can strip it away.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. It is a planetary scale out gassing engine.

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<v Speaker 2>And to fuel an engine that massive, to continuously pump

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<v Speaker 2>millions of tons of hydrogen, sulfide and sulfur dioxide into

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<v Speaker 2>the atmosphere for five eons, you need a reservoir of

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<v Speaker 2>unthinkable proportions.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. You can't just have a few active volcanoes dotting

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<v Speaker 3>a solid crust. That wouldn't cut it.

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<v Speaker 2>A localized volcanic network would exhaust its volatile supply way

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<v Speaker 2>too quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>Far too quickly, And that's where the geodynamic simulations come in.

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<v Speaker 3>The model presented in the March twenty twenty six Nature

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<v Speaker 3>with interior geodynamic simulations.

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<v Speaker 2>They basically calculated what kind of internal structure is actually

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<v Speaker 2>required to sustain this level of outgassing, and.

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<v Speaker 3>The simulations converged on a singular extreme structural model.

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<v Speaker 2>The permanent magma ocean.

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<v Speaker 3>A global, deep seated layer of molten silicate rock.

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<v Speaker 2>And we aren't just talking about a surface phenomenon right now.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No. The nineteen hundred degree surface temperature guarantees that

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<v Speaker 3>the crust itself is a glowing liquid. Sure, but the

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<v Speaker 3>simulations dictate that this molten state extends thousands of kilometers

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<v Speaker 3>deep into the planet's mantle.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, wait, I want to pause here and really dig

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<v Speaker 2>into the geophysics, because when you say the word ocean,

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<v Speaker 2>the human brain immediately defaults to the mechanics of water.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, you picture waves, right.

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<v Speaker 2>We picture a sloshing fluid sphere, but a magma ocean

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<v Speaker 2>extending thousands of kilometers down into a super Earth involves

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<v Speaker 2>pressure regimes that fundamentally alter how matter behaves, oh completely.

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<v Speaker 2>So how does a planet maintain its structural integrity if

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<v Speaker 2>half of its volume is essentially a liquid like Why

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't the tidal stress or the centrifugal force of its

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<v Speaker 2>rotation just tear it apart into space?

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<v Speaker 3>That is a great question. It comes down to the

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<v Speaker 3>concept of reology. Reology, Yeah, reology the study of how

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<v Speaker 3>matter flows under pressure. As you descend into the interior

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<v Speaker 3>of L ninety eight fifty nine D, the gravitational pressure

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<v Speaker 3>increases exponentially.

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<v Speaker 2>Because there's so much weight pressing down from above.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly so, even though the temperature is high enough to

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<v Speaker 3>melt silicate rock at the surface, the immense pressure at

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<v Speaker 3>depth actively combats that melting.

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<v Speaker 2>Because pressure forces atoms together, fighting the thermal energy that

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<v Speaker 3>Spot on, and the result is a state of matter

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<v Speaker 3>that is partially molten. It isn't a low viscosity liquid

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<v Speaker 3>like water. The mantle is often described in these high pressure,

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<v Speaker 3>high temperature regimes.

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<v Speaker 2>As a mush, a mush that sounds unappealing.

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<v Speaker 3>It behaves more like an unimaginably dense, glowing molasses.

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<v Speaker 2>Glowing molasses. Okay, that's a brilliant visual.

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<v Speaker 3>It flows, it convects, it churns, but it possesses enough

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<v Speaker 3>viscosity and structural cohesion, bound by the immense gravity of

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<v Speaker 3>the core, to maintain a perfect spherical shape.

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<v Speaker 2>So the planet is essentially a giant convecting sphere of

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<v Speaker 2>ultra pressurized, mushy liquid rock. Yes, but how does this

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<v Speaker 2>molten state solve the sulfur problem? Like, how does glowing

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<v Speaker 2>molasses act as a reservoir for toxic.

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<v Speaker 3>Gas because magma is an incredibly efficient solvent for volatiles.

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<v Speaker 2>A solvent.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, think back to when this planet was forming from

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<v Speaker 3>the protoplanetary disc five billion years ago. It created a

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<v Speaker 3>huge inventory of building blocks, dust, rock, and massive amounts

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<v Speaker 3>of volatile elements like sulfur, hydrogen, carbon.

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<v Speaker 2>And oxygen, all smashed together.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, if the planet had cooled down and solidified

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<v Speaker 3>like Earth or like Venus, what would have happened to

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<v Speaker 3>those volatiles.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, solidification forces volatiles out of the crystal lattice of

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<v Speaker 2>the rock. Right as magma crystallizes into solid stone, the

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<v Speaker 2>gases are expelled.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, they bubble up to the surface in a massive

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<v Speaker 3>initial pulse of out gassing, forming a thick primordial atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the red dwarf star hits that atmosphere with

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<v Speaker 2>its X ray blowtorch, strips it entirely and leaves behind

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<v Speaker 2>a dead, solid barren rock.

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<v Speaker 3>The path two scenario we talked about earlier, the fast

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety eight fifty nine did never solidified.

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<v Speaker 3>It never solidified because it remained a deep, churning magma ocean.

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<v Speaker 3>The crystallization process never completed. The magma ocean acts as

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<v Speaker 3>a planetary scale.

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<v Speaker 2>Sponge, a sponge for the gas.

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<v Speaker 3>It traps the volatile elements, the sulfur and the hydrogen

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<v Speaker 3>in solution deep within the liquid silicate melt. The magma

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<v Speaker 3>physically holds onto the gases.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's like a sealed bottle of sparkling water. The

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<v Speaker 2>carbon dioxide is trapped in the liquid. You can't see

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<v Speaker 2>the gas, but it's held in solution by the pressure.

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<v Speaker 3>That is exactly it. And as the magma slowly convects,

431
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<v Speaker 3>hotter material from deep within the planet rises toward the surface,

432
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<v Speaker 3>where the pressure is slightly lower.

433
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<v Speaker 2>The solubility of the magma decreases, it can no longer

434
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<v Speaker 2>hold as much gas.

435
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<v Speaker 3>The bottle is uncapped. Boom the magma to gases. The

436
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<v Speaker 3>sulfur and hydrogen bubble out of the glowing molasses, rising

437
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<v Speaker 3>through the thousands of kilometers of molten mantle and continuously

438
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<v Speaker 3>erupt into the atmosphere.

439
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<v Speaker 2>It is a slow, steady, relentless release, A billion year exhalation,

440
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<v Speaker 2>A billion year exhalation.

441
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<v Speaker 3>I love that.

442
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<v Speaker 2>And that is the planetary engine. The star is constantly

443
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<v Speaker 2>scraping the top of the atmosphere away into the void,

444
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<v Speaker 2>but the deep magma ocean is constantly burping up a

445
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<v Speaker 2>fresh supply of hydrogen sulfide from the bottom to replace it.

446
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<v Speaker 3>It's an equilibrium, a beautifully brutal equilibrium.

447
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<v Speaker 2>But wait, this entire engine, this whole paradigm of Path

448
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<v Speaker 2>three evolution. It relies on one foundational requirement, doesn't.

449
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<v Speaker 3>It It does. The mantle must remain liquid. The outgassing

450
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<v Speaker 3>stops the exact moment the planet freezes solid.

451
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<v Speaker 2>Which brings us to the thermodynamics of the system. Because

452
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<v Speaker 2>five billion years is a phenomenally long time to keep

453
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<v Speaker 2>a rocky planet completely melted.

454
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<v Speaker 3>It really is.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean even sitting close to a star. Space is

456
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<v Speaker 2>an infinite heat sink. The planet is constantly radiating thermal

457
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<v Speaker 2>energy into the void. It should have cooled, crystallized, and

458
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<v Speaker 2>dyed eons ago.

459
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<v Speaker 3>It absolutely should have to keep an.

460
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<v Speaker 2>Engine running for five billion years. You need an incredible

461
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<v Speaker 2>continuous power source. You need a perfect storm of heat.

462
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<v Speaker 3>And the nature. Astronomy researchers model the heat budget of

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<v Speaker 3>L ninety eight fifty nine D extensively to figure out

464
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<v Speaker 3>how this is possible and what did they find. They

465
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<v Speaker 3>found that a single heat source is simply insufficient to

466
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<v Speaker 3>maintain a mantle deep magma ocean over geological time scales.

467
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<v Speaker 3>It requires a trifecta.

468
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<v Speaker 2>A trifecta three distinct intersecting pillars of thermal energy working

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<v Speaker 2>in concert. Okay, let's dissect the heat budget. Pillar one

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<v Speaker 2>is the primordial heat of accretion, right, the violent birth

471
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<v Speaker 2>of the planet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the kinetic energy d of planetary formation is immense.

473
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<v Speaker 3>When planetesimals and protoplanetary chunks smashed together under the force

474
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<v Speaker 3>of gravity to form a super Earth, all.

475
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<v Speaker 2>That kinetic energy is converted into thermal energy. The entire

476
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<v Speaker 2>mass of the newly formed planet is superheated.

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<v Speaker 3>It starts its life as a literal ball of liquid fire.

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<v Speaker 3>And for a planet one point six times the size

479
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<v Speaker 3>of Earth, the sheer volume of material means it takes

480
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<v Speaker 3>a very long time for that initial primordial heat to

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<v Speaker 3>radiate away into space.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the core is heavily insulated by the thousands of

483
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<v Speaker 2>kilometers of rock above it.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and radiogenic heating also plays a minor role here.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the decay of radioactive isotopes deep in the.

486
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<v Speaker 2>Core sure like a slow nuclear reactor.

487
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<v Speaker 3>But even combined with the primordial heat, the models show

488
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<v Speaker 3>it is not enough. Left entirely to its own devices,

489
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<v Speaker 3>a super Earth of this mass would eventually form a

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<v Speaker 3>solid lithosphere, a crust.

491
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<v Speaker 2>Would form, the mantle would stiffen into solid rock, and

492
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<v Speaker 2>the outgassing would shoke to a halt.

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<v Speaker 3>So the planet needs insulation to slow down that cooling process.

494
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<v Speaker 2>And it needs an active heater to inject new energy

495
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<v Speaker 2>into the system.

496
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so the insulation is pillar two. The atmospheric greenhouse.

497
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<v Speaker 2>Effect, the sulfur greenhouse because the sulfur rich atmosphere we

498
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<v Speaker 2>detected with JWST isn't just a byproduct of the magma ocean.

499
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<v Speaker 2>It is its protector exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we understand the greenhouse effect on Earth, right, yeah,

501
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<v Speaker 3>trace amounts of carbon dioxide methane trapping the infrared radiation

502
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<v Speaker 3>trying to escape the surface.

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<v Speaker 2>But the greenhouse effect on l ninety eight fifty nine

504
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<v Speaker 2>D is operating on a fundamentally different scale.

505
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<v Speaker 3>A completely different scale. We are talking about a thick,

506
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<v Speaker 3>opaque haze of heavy sulfur dioxide and hydrogen sulfide. It

507
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<v Speaker 3>acts as an extreme heavy duty thermal blanket.

508
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<v Speaker 2>So as the primordial heat from the deep interior slowly

509
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<v Speaker 2>conducts its way to the surface ocean of lava, it

510
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<v Speaker 2>tries to radiate into space, but the.

511
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<v Speaker 3>Sulfur blanket intercepts that infrared energy, absorbs it, and radiates

512
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<v Speaker 3>it back down toward the surface.

513
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<v Speaker 2>It creates a thermal feedback loop.

514
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<v Speaker 3>It does. The magma out gases the sulfur. The sulfur

515
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<v Speaker 3>forms the atmospheric blanket, and the blanket traps the heat

516
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<v Speaker 3>required to keep the magma liquid so it can continue

517
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<v Speaker 3>out gassing.

518
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<v Speaker 2>That is an incredible symbiotic relationship. It's almost biological in

519
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<v Speaker 2>its elegance.

520
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<v Speaker 3>It really is. Again, but even the best thermal blanket

521
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<v Speaker 3>in the universe eventually loses heat. A blanket doesn't generate energy,

522
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<v Speaker 3>it only delays its escape.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you don't warm up a cold bed just by

524
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<v Speaker 2>throwing a blanket on it.

525
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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, to keep a thousands of kilometers deep ocean of

526
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<v Speaker 3>rock molden for five billion years, you absolutely must have

527
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<v Speaker 3>an active heater plugged into the wall.

528
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<v Speaker 2>You need a mechanism that physically injects new thermal energy

529
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<v Speaker 2>into the planet's interior.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is where the orbital dynamics of the L

531
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<v Speaker 3>ninety eight to fifty nine system become the critical key

532
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<v Speaker 3>to the entire mystery. This brings us to pillar three,

533
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<v Speaker 3>tidal heating.

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<v Speaker 2>Tidal heating. Now, when we say tides, we have to

535
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<v Speaker 2>strip away the terrestrial bias for a second. We aren't

536
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<v Speaker 2>talking about the Moon gently pulling on the oceans to

537
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<v Speaker 2>give us high tide the beach.

538
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<v Speaker 3>No. No, we are talking about gravitational forces so profound

539
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<v Speaker 3>they physically deform the solid structure of the planet.

540
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<v Speaker 2>Because L ninety eight fifty nine is not a lonely

541
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<v Speaker 2>star system, it is a compact multiplanet system.

542
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<v Speaker 3>There are at least four planets crammed into orbits that

543
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<v Speaker 3>are incredibly close to the host star, they are orbiting

544
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<v Speaker 3>in a tight, crowded.

545
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<v Speaker 2>Neighborhood, and because they are so close to each other,

546
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<v Speaker 2>their gravitational fields interact constantly right constantly.

547
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<v Speaker 3>The host star has a massive gravitational grip on L

548
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<v Speaker 3>ninety eight fifty nine D, locking it in a tight orbit.

549
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<v Speaker 3>But as the other planets in the system race around

550
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<v Speaker 3>the star on their own orbits, they constantly pass by

551
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<v Speaker 3>L ninety eight fifty nine D.

552
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<v Speaker 2>And every time a neighboring planet swings past its gravity

553
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<v Speaker 2>tugs on our super Earth.

554
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<v Speaker 3>It pulls it slightly out of a perfect circular orbit,

555
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<v Speaker 3>making the orbit elliptical or eccentric.

556
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<v Speaker 2>The eccentricity is the engine of the tidal heating.

557
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<v Speaker 3>Exactly because the orbit is slightly elliptical. The gravitational pull

558
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<v Speaker 3>from the host star changes.

559
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<v Speaker 2>Constantly on where the planet is in its path.

560
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<v Speaker 3>When the planet is at its closest point to the star,

561
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<v Speaker 3>the periastron, the gravitational tug is immense. It physically stretches

562
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<v Speaker 3>the planet, elongating it along the equator like squeezing a

563
00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:17.880
<v Speaker 3>rubber ball perfect analogy. Then, as the planet swings further

564
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<v Speaker 3>away to the distant edge of its elliptical orbit the apostron,

565
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<v Speaker 3>The star's gravitational grip relaxes slightly.

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<v Speaker 2>And the planet snaps back toward a more perfectly spherical shape.

567
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<v Speaker 3>Squeeze, release, squeeze, release, every single orbit.

568
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<v Speaker 2>And these orbits are incredibly fast. We are talking about

569
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<v Speaker 2>a year that lasts just a few earth days.

570
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<v Speaker 3>The planet is being relentlessly rhythmically needed like a ball

571
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<v Speaker 3>of dense dough.

572
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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

573
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<v Speaker 3>And this continuous deformation affects the entire thousands of kilometers

574
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<v Speaker 3>deep mantle of glowing molasses. The internal layers of partially

575
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<v Speaker 3>molten rock are constantly sliding against each other, grinding, stretching

576
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<v Speaker 3>and compressing.

577
00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:57.680
<v Speaker 2>And all of that kinetic energy, all of that internal friction,

578
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<v Speaker 2>it's converted directly into thermal energy.

579
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:04.960
<v Speaker 3>Exactly. The gravitational dance of the neighboring planets is acting

580
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<v Speaker 3>as a massive planetary scale friction heater. It is injecting

581
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<v Speaker 3>colossal amounts of energy directly into the mantle.

582
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<v Speaker 2>This is the mechanism that keeps the pot boiling.

583
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<v Speaker 3>It is the tidal heating generates the energy. The primordial

584
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<v Speaker 3>heat provides the baseline temperature. The sulfur greenhouse effect insulates

585
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<v Speaker 3>the system.

586
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:30.480
<v Speaker 2>This perfectly balanced trifecta maintains the magma ocean, which allows

587
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<v Speaker 2>the continuous out gasing which replenishes the rotten egg atmosphere

588
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<v Speaker 2>against the relentless stripping of the stellar wind.

589
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<v Speaker 3>It is a clockwork masterpiece of planetary physics.

590
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<v Speaker 2>A machine built out of gravity, heat, and chemistry. It

591
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<v Speaker 2>really is beautiful and understanding. This machine is exactly what

592
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<v Speaker 2>allowed the researchers in the Nature Astronomy paper to drop

593
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<v Speaker 2>a bomb on the concept of the radius valid oh totally,

594
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<v Speaker 2>because we talked earlier about the missing planets problem, the

595
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<v Speaker 2>assumption that planets either keep their gas and stay big

596
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<v Speaker 2>or lose their gas, shrink and become bare rocks.

597
00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:04.400
<v Speaker 3>The binary framework path one and path two right.

598
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<v Speaker 2>But L ninety eight fifty ninety proves the existence of

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<v Speaker 2>an entirely new evolutionary roadmap. It proves that the universe

600
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<v Speaker 2>is not limited to subtraction.

601
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<v Speaker 3>It introduces path three.

602
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<v Speaker 2>The internalized atmosphere.

603
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<v Speaker 3>Exactly what the data from L ninety eight to fifty

604
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<v Speaker 3>ninety demonstrates is that a planet does not need to

605
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<v Speaker 3>hold onto a fragile primordial envelope of hydrogen to maintain

606
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:28.279
<v Speaker 3>a bloated radius and a load density.

607
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:31.599
<v Speaker 2>It can literally store its atmosphere inside its own body.

608
00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:35.599
<v Speaker 3>It absorbs the volatile inventory during formation, sequesters it in

609
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<v Speaker 3>a deep magma ocean fueled by tidal heating, and then

610
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:41.519
<v Speaker 3>slowly continuously bleeds it out over billions of.

611
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<v Speaker 2>Years, the planet creates its own secondary atmosphere from the

612
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<v Speaker 2>inside out.

613
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<v Speaker 3>And this completely changes how we interpret the demographic map

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<v Speaker 3>of the galaxy.

615
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Because when we look at that massive gap in the

616
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<v Speaker 2>Radius valley, now we can no longer assume that every

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<v Speaker 2>planet sitting near that forbidden zone is just a dead

618
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<v Speaker 2>rock that lost its hydrogen.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to consider internal plumbing. A planet sitting on

620
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<v Speaker 3>the edge of the Radius valley might not be a

621
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<v Speaker 3>bare core. It might be a highly active, actively outgassing

622
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<v Speaker 3>magma world wrapped in a dense shroud of heavy metallic volatiles.

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<v Speaker 2>It is puffing itself up with sulfur.

624
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<v Speaker 3>The size of the planet is being dictated by its

625
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<v Speaker 3>internal geodynamics just as much as by the external radiation

626
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<v Speaker 3>of its star.

627
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<v Speaker 2>We have to stop judging planets by their covers. We

628
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<v Speaker 2>can't just measure the mass, measure the radius, calculate the

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<v Speaker 2>density and put it in a box.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we really can't. We have to understand the specific

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<v Speaker 3>orbital mechanics that drive its internal heat budget. The complexity

632
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<v Speaker 3>of planetary evolution just gained an entirely new dimension.

633
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<v Speaker 2>And the implications of this extend far beyond just solving

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<v Speaker 2>a quark in a demographic graph, right, because the statistical

635
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<v Speaker 2>reality of path three evolution is actually staggering. Oh it is,

636
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<v Speaker 2>let's one the numbers on that because L ninety eight

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<v Speaker 2>fifty ninety is just one planet, but it orbits an

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<v Speaker 2>M dwarf a red dwarf star, and.

639
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<v Speaker 3>M dwarfs are the undisputed rulers of the Milky Way.

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<v Speaker 3>They account for roughly seventy to seventy five percent of

641
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<v Speaker 3>all stars in our.

642
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:06.079
<v Speaker 2>Galaxy and twenty five percent. Our Sun is a G

643
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<v Speaker 2>type main sequence star, which makes it a minority. The

644
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<v Speaker 2>galaxy is fundamentally a red dwarf galaxy.

645
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<v Speaker 3>It is, And what do we know about the planetary

646
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<v Speaker 3>systems that form around red dwarfs?

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks to missions like Kepler and tests, we know that

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<v Speaker 2>compact multiplanet systems are incredibly common around M dwarfs.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Systems like Trappist one or L ninety eight fifty nine,

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<v Speaker 3>where you have three four or seven rocky planets huddled

651
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<v Speaker 3>in tight fast orbits close to the host star.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have a galaxy dominated by red dwarfs, and

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<v Speaker 2>those red dwarfs are frequently surrounded by tight clusters of

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<v Speaker 2>rocky super earths.

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<v Speaker 3>Which means the specific conditions that created L ninety eight

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<v Speaker 3>to fifty ninety are not rare. They are ubiquitous.

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<v Speaker 2>The intense high energy radiation from the young star to

658
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<v Speaker 2>strip the primordial hydrogen ubiquitous. The close proximity to neighboring

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<v Speaker 2>planets to generate intense tidal heating ubiquitous. The initial accretion

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<v Speaker 2>of volatile.

661
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<v Speaker 3>Rich material also ubiquitous.

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<v Speaker 2>The perfect storm isn't a freak accident, it is a

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<v Speaker 2>standard weather pattern in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Milky Way exactly, which means Path three isn't just a

665
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<v Speaker 3>quirky alternative lifestyle for a planet. It might be one

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<v Speaker 3>of the most common planetary end states in the entire universe.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, really one of the most common.

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<v Speaker 3>It is highly probable that the galaxy is teeming with

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<v Speaker 3>these worlds, sulfur rich, permanently molten hellscapes wrapped in toxic,

670
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<v Speaker 3>hazy atmospheres.

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<v Speaker 2>So we may be looking at a dominant class of

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<v Speaker 2>exoplanets that we simply couldn't identify until the James Webs

673
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<v Speaker 2>based telescope gave us the capability to read their chemical fingerprints.

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<v Speaker 3>This single observation effectively creates an entirely new category in

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<v Speaker 3>the catalog of.

676
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<v Speaker 2>Worlds, and it highlights just how wild the universe is

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<v Speaker 2>compared to our local terrestrial bias. I mean, we grew

678
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<v Speaker 2>up on a planet with a solid crust, liquid water oceans,

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<v Speaker 2>and a nice nitrogen oxygen atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 3>We kind of assume that rocky planets generally follow the

681
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<v Speaker 3>rules we see in our own Solar.

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<v Speaker 2>System, right like Venus and Mars are just variation on

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<v Speaker 2>a theme. But L ninety eight fifty nine D is

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<v Speaker 2>playing a different sport entirely.

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<v Speaker 3>It forces a severe pivot in observational astronomy. Now that

686
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<v Speaker 3>we know what the signature of a magma outgassing world

687
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<v Speaker 3>looks like. You know, the heavy sulfur absorption bands, that

688
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<v Speaker 3>density anomaly, the compact orbital architecture.

689
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<v Speaker 2>We know exactly what to look for we do.

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<v Speaker 3>The follow up campaigns for this specific planet are going

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<v Speaker 3>to be intense, but the broader surveys of similar compact

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<v Speaker 3>systems will be revolutionary.

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<v Speaker 2>So what are the immediate next steps? Because JWST isn't

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<v Speaker 2>done with the system right. The Nature Astronomy paper is

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<v Speaker 2>a monumental leap, but it's based on initial transmission spectra.

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<v Speaker 2>There has to be more data to extract from that

697
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<v Speaker 2>stinky sky.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh. JWST will undoubtedly conduct more transit observations, utilizing different

699
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<v Speaker 3>instruments and observing across broader wavelength ranges.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what will they be looking for?

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<v Speaker 3>The current detection focus is heavily on the sulfur compounds,

702
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<v Speaker 3>but astronomers will push the limits of the signal to

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<v Speaker 3>noise ratio to search for traces.

704
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<v Speaker 2>They'll be hunting for water again.

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely because the magma ocean should also be an efficient

706
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<v Speaker 3>reservoir for hydrogen and oxygen.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, is there trace water vapor being outgassed alongside the

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<v Speaker 2>hydrogen sulfide yes?

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<v Speaker 3>And if so, is the stellar radiation destroying it instantly

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<v Speaker 3>or is it lingering in the lower atmosphere. The presence

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<v Speaker 3>or absence of water vapor will further refine the models

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<v Speaker 3>of mantle rheology and volatile solubility.

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<v Speaker 2>I also wonder about variability, like if this planet's atmosphere

714
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<v Speaker 2>is being sustained by a churning, convecting ocean of glowing molasses.

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<v Speaker 2>The outgassing shouldn't be.

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<v Speaker 3>Perfectly uniform, no, it would be.

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<v Speaker 2>It shouldn't be a smooth static release.

718
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<v Speaker 3>You would definitely expect episodic variations, major convective overturns in

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<v Speaker 3>the mantle, or localized spikes and tidal heating due to

720
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<v Speaker 3>orbital resonance cycles. Those could trigger massive planet wide eruptive.

721
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<v Speaker 2>Events supervolcanic outgassing pulses.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, if JWST observes the planet transitting multiple times over

723
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<v Speaker 3>a period of years and the atmospheric composition or the

724
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<v Speaker 3>transit depth changes, like if the sulfur dioxide signal suddenly spikes,

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<v Speaker 3>it would provide real time observational evidence of active catastrophic

726
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<v Speaker 3>volcanic churning in the magma ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>We would literally be watching the planet's internal plumbing operate

728
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<v Speaker 2>in real time.

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<v Speaker 3>We would and won't just be GWST doing the heavy

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<v Speaker 3>lifting either.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Right, ground based scopes.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that the target is painted, ground based observatories with

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<v Speaker 3>massive next generation mirrors like the extremely large telescope currently

734
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<v Speaker 3>under construction, will be able to join the hunt.

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<v Speaker 2>What can they do that JWST can't.

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<v Speaker 3>They can use ultra high resolution spectroscopy to confirm the

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<v Speaker 3>exact volatile ratios and even track the atmospheric as cape

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<v Speaker 3>rates as the wind blows the sulfur away.

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<v Speaker 2>The synergy between space based infrared observatories and massive ground

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<v Speaker 2>based spectrographs is going to rapidly accelerate our mapping of

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<v Speaker 2>these path three worlds.

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<v Speaker 3>We are transitioning from the era of simply finding planets

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<v Speaker 3>to the era of deeply characterizing their geophysical mechanic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an incredible timeline to think about. I mean, a

745
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<v Speaker 2>decade ago, a planet thirty five light years away was

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<v Speaker 2>just a dip in a light.

747
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<v Speaker 3>Curve, a shadow, a twenty shadow.

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<v Speaker 2>We could guess its size and maybe it's mass, and

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<v Speaker 2>we argued about whether it was a rock or a

750
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<v Speaker 2>gas ball. And today we are diagnosing the viscosity of

751
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<v Speaker 2>its molten mantle and smelling its rotten egg atmosphere. We

752
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<v Speaker 2>are dissecting its internal thermodynamics.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a testament to the sheer, relentless ingenuity of the

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<v Speaker 3>people who build these instruments. It really underscores the power

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<v Speaker 3>of empirical observation to humble our theoretical models. We build

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<v Speaker 3>neat boxes based on what we know path one or

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<v Speaker 3>path two. Then the universe presents us with a world

758
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<v Speaker 3>that shatters those boxes, forcing us to expand our understanding

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<v Speaker 3>of physics and chemistry to accommodate a much wilder reality.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so true. We started this conversation looking at a

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<v Speaker 2>world that is objectively terrifying, a glowing, toxic, boiling hellscape

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<v Speaker 2>where life as we understand it cannot possibly exists.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. The radiation would fry you, the heat would melt you,

764
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<v Speaker 3>and the atmosphere would suffocate you. It is the ultimate

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<v Speaker 3>anti Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>But I want to look at this mechanism from a

767
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<v Speaker 2>slightly different angle before we wrap up. Okay, let's take

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<v Speaker 2>a step back from the extreme nightmare of L ninety

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<v Speaker 2>eight fifty nine D and look purely at the planetary

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<v Speaker 2>engine we just spent the last hour unpacking. We have

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<v Speaker 2>an engine driven by tidal and primordial heat, maintaining a

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<v Speaker 2>deep magma ocean that acts as an incredibly stable, billion

773
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<v Speaker 2>year storage tank for crucial chemical ingredients. We have an

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<v Speaker 2>engine that slowly, reliably degases those volatiles, building and replenishing

775
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<v Speaker 2>a complex secondary atmosphere from the inside out over geological eons.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I see where you're going with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Now take that exact same internal machinery, like exact same

778
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<v Speaker 2>magma de gassing engine, but mentally move the planet further

779
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<v Speaker 2>away from the host star.

780
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<v Speaker 3>Moved out of the blood towards zone.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly place it safely in the habitable zone where the

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<v Speaker 2>surface temperature is actually cool enough for liquid water to exist,

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<v Speaker 2>but the internal tidal friction keeps the mantle active and convecting.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, could this exact mechanism, this slow billion year

785
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<v Speaker 2>exhalation of trapped volatiles from a deep internal reservoir, Could

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<v Speaker 2>that be the very engine that jump starts prebiotic chemistry?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, yes, we know that early Earth had a

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<v Speaker 3>magma ocean phase.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that outgassing from our own mantle built our

790
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<v Speaker 2>secondary atmosphere and provided the raw chemical building blocks for

791
00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:30.800
<v Speaker 2>the primordial soup. So by analyzing the extreme lethal overdrive

792
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<v Speaker 2>version of this planetary engine on L ninety eight fifty nine, dy,

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<v Speaker 2>are we actually reverse engineering the very machinery that creates

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<v Speaker 2>the conditions for life on truly habitable worlds?

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<v Speaker 3>Are we looking at the monstrous, high speed prototype of

796
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<v Speaker 3>the system that breathes life into our own planet.

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00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. It is a profound possibility to consider. We study

798
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<v Speaker 2>the extremes to understand the middle, and the deeper we

799
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<v Speaker 2>peer into the chemistry of these hostile worlds, the closer

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<v Speaker 2>we get to understanding the delicate, more miraculous balance required

801
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<v Speaker 2>to build a world like ours.

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<v Speaker 3>That is. That's a beautiful way to think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>It really is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is something to think about the next time you

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<v Speaker 2>look up at the night sky, past the glare of

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<v Speaker 2>the city lights into the vast, populated darkness of the

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<v Speaker 2>Milky Way. Absolutely, thank you so much for joining us

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<v Speaker 2>on this exploration of the cosmos. The search for diversity

809
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<v Speaker 2>in the universe continues, and discoveries like this make it

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<v Speaker 2>brilliantly clear that we have only begun to scratch the

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<v Speaker 2>surface of what is out there. Until next time, teachers,

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<v Speaker 2>the

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<v Speaker 3>Gay Chara
