1 00:00:19,039 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: And we are back with another edition of the Federalist 2 00:00:21,719 --> 00:00:25,120 Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, Senior Elections correspondent at the 3 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,800 Federalist and your experience shirpa on today's quest for Knowledge. 4 00:00:30,199 --> 00:00:32,880 As always, you can email the show at radio at 5 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,119 the Federalist dot com, follow us on x at fbr LST, 6 00:00:37,679 --> 00:00:40,960 make sure to subscribe wherever you download your podcast, and 7 00:00:41,039 --> 00:00:43,960 of course to the premium version of our website as well. 8 00:00:44,439 --> 00:00:48,520 Our guest today is Scott Walter, President of Capital Research Center, 9 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:53,359 the excellent tracker of foundations, charities, and other nonprofits. Scott 10 00:00:53,399 --> 00:00:56,840 testified earlier this week at the House Juduciary Subcommittee on 11 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:03,399 Oversight's hearing titled how this nonprofit networks exploit Federal tax 12 00:01:03,439 --> 00:01:08,680 dollars to advance a radical agenda. Scott may be the 13 00:01:08,719 --> 00:01:11,640 busiest man on Capitol Hill these days when it comes 14 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:18,120 to Congressional hearings. He has testified at three different congressional 15 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,599 hearings within a matter of six weeks, so you can 16 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:28,560 imagine he's had his share politicians of late. Scott, thank 17 00:01:28,599 --> 00:01:30,599 you so much for joining us on this edition of 18 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:31,799 the Federalist Radio Hour. 19 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: Well, it's great to be with you and yes, the 20 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,519 ranking members I've had to deal with on some of 21 00:01:38,519 --> 00:01:48,159 the committees and include Senator Sheldon Whitehouse Russia and Jamie 22 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:49,200 Raskin go. 23 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,959 Speaker 1: You should get casualty pay, my friend, no doubt about it. 24 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,280 But you are doing the good work, and I think 25 00:01:57,319 --> 00:02:01,959 this is a critical issue moving forward forward, let us 26 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:07,120 delve into it. Your opening testimony really got at the 27 00:02:07,159 --> 00:02:10,560 point here and if I could just read a bit 28 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:15,960 from your opening testimony that I think just really nails 29 00:02:16,039 --> 00:02:20,919 the point. Tax dollars should never go to nonprofits best 30 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:26,159 known for pushing controversial social issues or meddling in politics 31 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,680 here and abroad. Yet that is what so many federally 32 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:36,479 funded nonprofits, especially those receiving USAID funding, have done. You 33 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,319 have tracked this and you gave kind of an overview, 34 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:45,360 But what is the extent of the gravy train of 35 00:02:45,439 --> 00:02:48,080 federal tax dollars going to these NGOs? 36 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,159 Speaker 2: Well, of course that's a friendly question, and the friendly 37 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,639 questions are actually the toughest, right. So I was one 38 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,319 of the questions I got at the hearing was what's 39 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,199 the worst grant in the federal government to these things? 40 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,159 And you just ask what's the total grants in this right? 41 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:10,319 And of course the terrifying answer this is much scarier 42 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,400 than anything anything specific I could give you. The much 43 00:03:13,439 --> 00:03:17,080 scarier answer is to your question, how much money goes 44 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,120 to this stuff? God only knows. We know it's in 45 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,879 the billions. We know with that beyond any doubt, it's 46 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,919 in the billions of dollars going to left wing groups. 47 00:03:26,759 --> 00:03:29,039 But more than that we do not know, right And 48 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,000 I certainly don't know what the absolute worst grant in 49 00:03:31,039 --> 00:03:35,800 the whole federal government is either, because you'd have to 50 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,159 know all of them, and then you'd have to try 51 00:03:37,199 --> 00:03:39,599 to figure out how to rank all these horrific things. 52 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:45,639 So it's very scary that no one knows how many billions. 53 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,800 But I do want to say something about the hearing, right, 54 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,879 So it was actually this hearing that you're talking about 55 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,800 was not the full House Judiciary Committee. It was the 56 00:03:54,840 --> 00:04:00,599 little tiny Oversight subcommittee of the full committee. And Jasmine 57 00:04:00,599 --> 00:04:04,800 Crockett is the ranking member for the subcommittee. Now, but 58 00:04:04,919 --> 00:04:07,560 you know who was there at that hearing the entire 59 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,439 time was Jamie Raskin, who is the ranking member for 60 00:04:11,479 --> 00:04:16,240 the entire committee. Right now, he shouldn't be bothering with 61 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,480 some little you know, Penny anti subcommittee hearing like this, 62 00:04:20,879 --> 00:04:25,319 But he was there for every single minute. Now, why well, 63 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,360 if you listen to what the words that came out 64 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,480 of his mouth, the answer was because this is so silly, 65 00:04:30,519 --> 00:04:33,360 this is this is enoughing Burger, this is you know, 66 00:04:33,959 --> 00:04:36,639 just a waste of time and nothing here to see. 67 00:04:37,519 --> 00:04:40,480 In which case, why were you there the entire time, 68 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,879 Congressman Raskin, You're an important, powerful man. You shouldn't be 69 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,959 wasting your time on nothing, Burgers. And of course the 70 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,959 answer is the words out of his mouth were the 71 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,519 precise opposite of the truth, which is it is the 72 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,399 point of the hearing was that left wing groups get 73 00:04:56,439 --> 00:04:59,879 a huge amount of funding from the government and it's 74 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,879 it's critical to their ability to harass ordinary Americans and 75 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,360 the currently elected administration. So that's why he was there. 76 00:05:08,439 --> 00:05:12,279 It's very far from nothing. It's a huge hunk of 77 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,639 cash for him and his allies, no doubt about it. 78 00:05:15,639 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: It is significant, it is meaningful, and it has really 79 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,000 in so many cases, as you testified, given the United 80 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,519 States of America, the government of the United States of 81 00:05:27,519 --> 00:05:30,560 America a black eye in so many of these countries 82 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:37,959 where you have these NGOs pushing initiatives and programs that 83 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,920 defy the cultural basis first and foremost of a lot 84 00:05:42,959 --> 00:05:48,160 of these countries. But who are the if you would, 85 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,160 who are the leading funders that go into these sorts 86 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,199 of NGOs. Who are the leading NGOs we're talking about here? 87 00:05:57,399 --> 00:06:04,199 Speaker 2: Well, the ones. The two issue areas where the most 88 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:10,639 billions go to are, first of all, the immigration industrial complex, right. So, 89 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,920 and I'm sad to say I'm a I'm a I'm 90 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:17,199 a passionate Catholic, but the you know, a lot of 91 00:06:17,199 --> 00:06:22,439 Catholic charities on that gravy train, Lutheran Church World Services 92 00:06:22,439 --> 00:06:27,759 although they changed their name recently, the and they're Jewish, 93 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,639 and other religious charities in the immigration gravy train, and 94 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:41,000 the Committee on Immigration and Human Rights there. So that's 95 00:06:41,079 --> 00:06:45,120 one huge area. And then the other really huge area 96 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:51,120 is the enviro world, right, the the the human hating 97 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:59,240 environmentalist world. And that's also just billions of dollars, you know, 98 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,600 the most problem. You know, my friend Peter Schweitzer, who 99 00:07:03,639 --> 00:07:08,519 did Cling Cash and many other wonderful books, he's he's 100 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,040 doing a big deep dive on on the green slush 101 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:17,360 funds under the Biden administration. And his view is that 102 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,759 that the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund, which was one of 103 00:07:20,759 --> 00:07:25,120 the multi billion dollar things there. He thinks that's the 104 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:31,000 most corrupt. He thinks that's the most corrupt slush fund 105 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,399 ever created by government, which is quite the impressive achievement. Right. 106 00:07:35,639 --> 00:07:39,279 We know that, for instance, Stacy Abrams was mixed up 107 00:07:39,319 --> 00:07:41,639 in a group that had one hundred dollars in its 108 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:46,959 bank account before the billion dollars came in from the 109 00:07:46,959 --> 00:07:50,120 federal government. Again, again, you cannot make this stuff up. 110 00:07:50,839 --> 00:07:53,519 Speaker 1: Well, if you want to know the significance and the 111 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:58,600 power of these organizations, obviously there's a lot of Soros 112 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,879 cash and what have you, usual suspects behind this. But 113 00:08:01,879 --> 00:08:04,879 if you want to know how powerful these groups are, 114 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:10,360 just check out the memos. You've gotten copies of these, 115 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:17,000 the communications between the Biden administration and the NGOs that 116 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:21,240 sat down to create something we like to call Biden Bucks, 117 00:08:21,839 --> 00:08:27,879 and that is the full on government federal government sponsored 118 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,040 get out the vote effort for the Democratic Party. Those 119 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,720 NGOs were in that room setting it up. They wouldn't 120 00:08:34,759 --> 00:08:37,759 be in that room, of course, if they didn't have 121 00:08:38,519 --> 00:08:41,879 a red line phone to the Democrat President of the 122 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:42,679 United States. 123 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:49,639 Speaker 2: Now, the Biden Bucks is an under reported scandal, although 124 00:08:49,759 --> 00:08:52,080 not at the Federalists, because you guys do probably the 125 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,200 best election integrity reporting of any outlet in America. God 126 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,159 bless you, and especially Molly. I know Molly is a 127 00:08:59,279 --> 00:09:02,360 driver behind and that goodness, along with all your many 128 00:09:02,399 --> 00:09:06,919 good reporters. But Demos, a left wing think tank in 129 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,480 New York, appears to have been the place that had 130 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:18,240 the brain wave to have the federal government become a 131 00:09:18,279 --> 00:09:25,720 Democratic Party election turnout machine. The nonprofits. Soros, especially in 132 00:09:25,799 --> 00:09:29,080 his group and others, had been doing this through in 133 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:35,320 the nonprofit sector for literally decades without anybody bringing any 134 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,120 accountability to them. But then they had the thought of, well, 135 00:09:38,159 --> 00:09:40,440 my goodness, if Joe Biden's going to be president, why 136 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,840 shouldn't we have, you know, the Small Business Administration and 137 00:09:43,879 --> 00:09:47,320 the Department of Agriculture turning out votes for our preferred 138 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:52,360 political party. So yes, it was hatched in the left 139 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:57,159 wing nonprofit world like Demos, But then they brought it 140 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,679 to the tax dollar world, which is just so outrageous, 141 00:10:01,759 --> 00:10:06,240 and as you well know, they stonewalled everybody who was 142 00:10:06,279 --> 00:10:10,440 trying to dig out information about this. They refused to 143 00:10:10,519 --> 00:10:15,080 honor Foyer requests, which was completely outrageous, although I understand it, 144 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,399 you know, it would have been very harmful to them. 145 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:23,919 Speaker 1: Well, that's absolutely right. And the reason that they had 146 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,159 to block all of this information that rightly should have 147 00:10:27,159 --> 00:10:29,600 been going out much sooner, and the Department of Justice 148 00:10:29,639 --> 00:10:33,120 got involved in that is because exactly what you were 149 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:39,279 testifying on before this Congressional subcommittee. And I want to 150 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,679 get back to the immigration side of things, because one of, 151 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:48,159 if not the most disastrous portions of Joe Biden's legacy 152 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,759 is the invasion of the United States through his open 153 00:10:52,840 --> 00:11:01,000 door policies on illegal immigration. How much were the groups 154 00:11:01,159 --> 00:11:06,240 like Catholic charities and these others involved in that invasion. 155 00:11:08,159 --> 00:11:12,759 Speaker 2: Well, first, just in money terms, again we are talking 156 00:11:13,639 --> 00:11:18,480 billions of dollars. And then I think in my testimony, 157 00:11:18,759 --> 00:11:22,159 you know, I cited one of the other hearings i'd 158 00:11:22,159 --> 00:11:26,080 done recently, the testimony there of Mark Grekorian of the 159 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,679 Center for Immigration Studies. You know, the way that he 160 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:36,320 puts it is through cash, legal advice, mental health sessions, 161 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:41,480 and travel help. These groups constructed a de facto shadow 162 00:11:41,519 --> 00:11:46,840 immigration system, and this parallel system operates in direct defiance 163 00:11:46,879 --> 00:11:50,759 of US federal immigration law. GET is financed in part 164 00:11:50,919 --> 00:11:55,799 by congressional appropriations. Right, So the better way to understand 165 00:11:55,840 --> 00:12:00,399 it is literally, throughout the whole of Latin America, you 166 00:12:00,639 --> 00:12:06,039 have all these groups that are doing everything they can 167 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:12,840 to encourage and assist people without a legal right to 168 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,559 enter the United States to nonetheless make their way to 169 00:12:16,919 --> 00:12:21,399 and across the US border. Now, the justification these groups 170 00:12:21,399 --> 00:12:23,799 want to give is like, we help you know, poor 171 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,120 people in struggling people and what And hey, I agree, 172 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,519 if the cartels smuggled you across the border, I'm sure 173 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,840 you're suffering and in need of some help, right. But 174 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,399 the point is, it's one thing to say someone is 175 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,559 here and struggling and suffering and needs our help. It's 176 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,919 another thing to have been pushing them for thousands of 177 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,399 miles before they got to that border. That's a very 178 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,720 different thing. And yet that is what so many of 179 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:58,480 these groups were doing. And by the way, the more 180 00:12:58,519 --> 00:13:02,919 people who cross the border, the more tax dollars the 181 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,440 groups will get on this side of the border. 182 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: It's a convenient situation, isn't it. It's a relationship of convenience, certainly. 183 00:13:12,159 --> 00:13:14,759 And then on the other side of that, when you 184 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,840 have a President Trump two point oh, this administration that 185 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,960 is working to clean up the mess of the former administration. 186 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:28,399 You have those same groups that are involved in the protest. 187 00:13:29,279 --> 00:13:32,240 Some of them are involved in the violence and the 188 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,919 rioting that's going on. And here is the rub against Scott. 189 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,399 The American taxpayer is paying for that too, are they not. 190 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,879 Speaker 2: That's true, and that brings up a point I should 191 00:13:43,919 --> 00:13:50,240 have made earlier, arguably, so namely, when I say that 192 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,840 it's not possible to say all the money, I mean 193 00:13:52,919 --> 00:13:56,159 it is simply not possible. And this is a great example. 194 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: Right. 195 00:13:56,519 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 2: So, you in some of these cities where you're seeing 196 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,720 riots against the ice officers, a lot of the folks 197 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,840 doing it are going to be like local, locally based 198 00:14:07,879 --> 00:14:11,279 activist groups, not big national groups, local activist groups, and 199 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:17,039 you know, Seattle or Portland, whatnot. Now, those groups will 200 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:24,399 often be feeding at the local taxpayer trough for things 201 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:31,519 like homelessness advocacy or Sorry services, homelessness services. Right So, 202 00:14:31,639 --> 00:14:34,399 I'm a little group in Portland and I'm getting some 203 00:14:34,559 --> 00:14:37,519 cash out of the Portland City Council or the Portland 204 00:14:37,519 --> 00:14:41,879 Mayor's office to allegedly help with the homeless problem. But 205 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,279 really I'm a radical activist group, and now that the 206 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,600 outraged doujour is the Ice folks, Well, I'm going to 207 00:14:51,639 --> 00:14:57,240 take my locally tax paid folks and go attack Ice folks. 208 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,679 But guess what those local tax dollars that may well 209 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,039 be something that came from the state of Oregon, and 210 00:15:04,279 --> 00:15:07,000 it's in turn may have gotten a chunk of that 211 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,600 money from a federal program. So you can have a 212 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,240 federal program going to a state, going to a city, 213 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,720 going to a little local activist groups throwing bricks at 214 00:15:15,759 --> 00:15:16,600 ice officers. 215 00:15:20,399 --> 00:15:23,919 Speaker 3: We're at the worst level we've seen in thirty five years. 216 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,799 The watch Dot on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. 217 00:15:26,879 --> 00:15:29,720 Every day Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and 218 00:15:29,759 --> 00:15:32,720 the economy and how it affects your wallet. Americans making 219 00:15:32,799 --> 00:15:35,879 median income need to spend forty percent of the money 220 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,840 they make on their monthly mortgage interest rates coming down 221 00:15:38,879 --> 00:15:41,879 makes the prices just go back up. Prices need to 222 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,240 come down. Whether it's happening in DC or down on 223 00:15:44,279 --> 00:15:45,919 Wall Street, it's affecting you financially. 224 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:46,519 Speaker 1: Be informed. 225 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 3: Check out the Watchdot on Wall Street podcast with Chris 226 00:15:48,759 --> 00:15:51,799 Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 227 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: That is a very important point, the fungible nature, of 228 00:16:00,399 --> 00:16:03,879 course of all of this funding. And I'm curious are 229 00:16:03,919 --> 00:16:07,720 you getting any assurances, particularly from Republicans on Capitol Hill, 230 00:16:08,279 --> 00:16:11,480 that they're going to do a congressional investigation into this, 231 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,320 because I know, you know, obviously you guys have done 232 00:16:14,519 --> 00:16:18,279 excellent work on this front, and there are others as well, 233 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:24,080 but this sounds to me like, you know, a red 234 00:16:24,159 --> 00:16:26,919 light going off for congressional investigation. 235 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: Well, the three testimonies in six weeks have all been 236 00:16:34,679 --> 00:16:38,679 roughly connected to this sort of thing, the nonprofit abuses 237 00:16:39,159 --> 00:16:44,879 and their connections to you know, heavily funded groups. So 238 00:16:45,159 --> 00:16:47,759 and I was in the Senate Judiciary, the House Judiciary, 239 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:54,559 and the House Oversight doge folks. So so there clearly 240 00:16:54,919 --> 00:17:00,600 is growing uproar in Congress about this. Now having said that, 241 00:17:00,919 --> 00:17:08,480 it's you know, congressional resources for investigations are limited and 242 00:17:09,519 --> 00:17:11,960 they're really going to need a lot of cooperation, which 243 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,440 I think this in this administration may just happen. Like 244 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:20,160 you mentioned Biden Bucks, like the appropriate committees in Congress 245 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:24,319 should be demanding that every department of the federal government 246 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,519 because they all were mixed up in Biden Bucks to 247 00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:29,519 one degree, or another. All of that stuff ought to 248 00:17:29,519 --> 00:17:32,039 be ought to come out and go on the public record. Yes, 249 00:17:32,319 --> 00:17:35,160 And to the extent that there were you know, career 250 00:17:35,519 --> 00:17:39,319 bureaucrats inviting their good buddies at places like the Voter 251 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:45,400 Participation Center and League of Conservation Voters and whatnot, those 252 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,400 people ought to be in danger. Well, they ought to 253 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,000 receive accountability and therefore be in danger of, you know, 254 00:17:51,039 --> 00:17:54,839 maybe not being career bureaucrats anymore. But as I said, 255 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:59,880 Congress has limited investigative investigative powers, and to be perfectly on, 256 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:07,119 they don't score a plus's in it. You know. One 257 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,920 of the complaints I make is I'll testify any time. 258 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,960 But you know you ought to be having the actual 259 00:18:12,039 --> 00:18:17,559 bad guys here too, right, So why not have Church 260 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,400 World Services have to come and justify what they've done 261 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,279 that's not a crazy thing. Or if it's like the 262 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:31,240 Voter Participation Center, well that's a C three public charity 263 00:18:31,319 --> 00:18:35,160 not supposed to be doing anything partisan, including doing partisan 264 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,200 voter registration. They ought to be on the hot seat, 265 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,359 and then their donors ought to be you know, the 266 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,079 first panel lot to be the actual activist doing bad stuff, 267 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,079 and the second panel ot to be the people giving 268 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,400 the money from the private sector, including private foundations getting 269 00:18:51,559 --> 00:18:55,160 that benefit from tax exemption. Those folkst to be the 270 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,920 next ones on the hot seat. Are you going to 271 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,319 promise me you're never going to give money to this 272 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:05,359 corrupt voter Participation Center or whoever the appropriate bad guys 273 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,519 are those that ought to be the first two panels. 274 00:19:08,559 --> 00:19:10,400 Then you can put me in some other folks like 275 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,359 me on the third panel, and we'll tell you where 276 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,759 they lied in panel one, in panel two, and we'll 277 00:19:14,759 --> 00:19:15,599 bring the receipts. 278 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Indeed, well here is a crazy off the wall 279 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:23,839 idea for you, Scott. Congress should actually know where the 280 00:19:23,839 --> 00:19:28,480 hell this money is going, right, and they don't. And 281 00:19:28,519 --> 00:19:30,920 they don't because the way the system is set up 282 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:37,559 that there are big checks written in general categories and 283 00:19:37,599 --> 00:19:42,440 we have executive branch bureaucrats using that money, shaping that money, 284 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,759 as you mentioned before, working with their buddies and their 285 00:19:44,799 --> 00:19:49,319 allies and NGOs to feed in their favorites. Of course, you. 286 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 2: Know that's absolutely true. There ought to be ruthless audits. 287 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:57,599 I mean, you know, Doze and Musk talked repeatedly about 288 00:19:57,599 --> 00:20:00,880 the fact that so many checks get and sent out 289 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,240 of the Treasury that literally don't even say what they're for. Now, 290 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,480 you know, as somebody who has to run a small nonprofit, 291 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,839 I can tell you my auditors would have me in 292 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,680 jail if I did that, right, I don't get to 293 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,839 write checks that don't say what they're for, and don't 294 00:20:17,839 --> 00:20:20,799 try because this is the thing the departments don't know. 295 00:20:20,839 --> 00:20:23,599 If you told us aid in State Department, we want 296 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,079 to know where every penny went, they couldn't tell you 297 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:32,119 at gunpoint. That's how atrocious this system is. And it's 298 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,960 only possible, of course, because we have such obese government 299 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,160 that it's you know, it doesn't even know what it's doing, 300 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,519 literally doesn't know what it's doing. 301 00:20:42,039 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it truly is breathtaking where all of this stands. 302 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:51,079 But you're you're absolutely right. Because of this morbidly obese 303 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,079 government that we we have added to and added to 304 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,359 over many, many years, we find ourselves in the same 305 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,119 problem over and over again. Our guest today is Scott Walter, 306 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,920 president of Capital Research Center, the excellent tracker of foundations, charities, 307 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,079 other nonprofits. Again, Scott testified earlier this week at the 308 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:18,119 House Judiciary Subcommittee on Oversights hearing titled how leftist nonprofit 309 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:23,480 networks exploit federal tax dollars to advance a radical agenda, 310 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:29,039 an extremely radical agenda. You said this during your testimony. 311 00:21:29,759 --> 00:21:34,039 The same improper funding hurts our politics as well. We 312 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,599 hear a lot about so called dark money in politics, 313 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,759 But what is darker than the funding of alleged charities 314 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,640 that work in foreign countries to elect politicians they like 315 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:52,039 to say, the European Parliament, or to enact government policies 316 00:21:52,039 --> 00:21:58,240 involving controversial issues like prostitution and abortion. That is rampant 317 00:21:58,319 --> 00:22:02,839 in these NGAs. But let's start with that first point. 318 00:22:03,279 --> 00:22:09,720 We have NGOs electing, helping to elect, or countenancing people 319 00:22:10,079 --> 00:22:15,079 who are direct enemies countries that are direct enemies of 320 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,960 the United States of America. How does that happen? 321 00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 2: Uh? Well, you know, you're right. And by the way, 322 00:22:24,079 --> 00:22:27,039 one of the person next to me on the witness 323 00:22:27,079 --> 00:22:31,000 panel was Mike Gonzalez of the Heritage Foundation, who's brilliant 324 00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:33,319 on this, and he focused a lot of his testimony 325 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,960 on those details. So you know, Uh, George Soros and 326 00:22:39,039 --> 00:22:44,119 his leftists, well they don't they hate any government right 327 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:50,440 that's to the right of Uh, well done to the right. Yeah, 328 00:22:50,519 --> 00:22:52,279 to the to the to the right of Mitt Romney, 329 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,319 or really to the right of Hillary Clinton, it would 330 00:22:54,319 --> 00:22:56,039 be a more action true, true. 331 00:22:55,839 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: And there we go. 332 00:22:56,599 --> 00:23:03,079 Speaker 2: So so in country after country like Albania, Macedonia, Guatemala. 333 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,960 I mean, because he's active all over the world. Right, 334 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,599 there's no continent that doesn't have Soros on it. And 335 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,559 so they will be by various means. They will you know, 336 00:23:12,599 --> 00:23:16,039 they'll be funding like LGBT groups that they think are 337 00:23:16,079 --> 00:23:18,279 going to vote left, or youth groups that are going 338 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,759 to vote left, or they'll be funding investigative journalists that 339 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:28,119 only investigate the left's enemies. So this is going on 340 00:23:28,319 --> 00:23:31,200 all over the world, to the outrage, of course of 341 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:43,240 the poor locals. And but under the Obama administration, Soros 342 00:23:43,319 --> 00:23:48,240 was virtually the Deputy Secretary of State and his networks 343 00:23:48,319 --> 00:23:51,559 were all over the world, were getting your tax dollars. 344 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,799 And then you had a fair bit of that reappeared 345 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:02,000 in the Biden administration, where again groups like the East 346 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,680 West Institute and whatnot were that are largely Soros vehicles. 347 00:24:07,519 --> 00:24:14,200 We're getting tax dollars. So it's just completely outrageous. And 348 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,039 by the way, the the Soros leaks, which yes, probably 349 00:24:18,079 --> 00:24:22,920 were hacked out by Russian intel services. Although I personally 350 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,240 have had things I've written the Conservative donors hacked out 351 00:24:26,279 --> 00:24:30,359 by Russian intelligence services, and Sheldon white House is happy 352 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,079 to use the Russian intel hacked So I think it's 353 00:24:34,079 --> 00:24:35,240 a fair game for all of us. 354 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 355 00:24:36,079 --> 00:24:41,759 Speaker 2: So the point is those Soros leaks showed internal memos 356 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:47,839 from the Soros private foundations in America explaining how in 357 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,680 their complex network abroad, because there's you may not know this, 358 00:24:51,759 --> 00:24:55,039 there's an Open Society Prague, and an Open Society Macedonia, 359 00:24:55,079 --> 00:24:57,039 and on and on and on. Right, they have their 360 00:24:57,079 --> 00:25:00,799 own little things there that then again regrind yet again 361 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,799 to some other actual activist group. When you look at 362 00:25:03,839 --> 00:25:07,839 their internal records, you see that they're literally saying, Okay, 363 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,200 we're going to give money to this group in name 364 00:25:10,279 --> 00:25:16,720 your country to affect who gets elected to the European Parliament. 365 00:25:18,319 --> 00:25:22,640 Now that's wildly illegal because no American five oh one 366 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,759 C three, whether it's a private foundation like the Open 367 00:25:25,799 --> 00:25:30,279 Society Foundations, or a you know, or a think tank 368 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,160 like my think tank, you know, if you're a five 369 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,039 to one C three of any flavor, you are not 370 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:40,599 allowed to intervene in elections, and yet their own documents 371 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,039 explain how they're trying to get the right people, elect 372 00:25:43,079 --> 00:25:45,279 the people who agree with them elected, and try to 373 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,279 unelect people that they don't like. They've never been held 374 00:25:49,279 --> 00:25:51,880 to account for that in any way whatsoever, other than 375 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,240 have me talk about it for years. 376 00:25:54,319 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: Soros is the socialist version of Starbucks. As you say 377 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:06,480 they are, they are literally everywhere on every continent. So really, 378 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,119 what you have just laid out is something that I 379 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,839 think all Americans should know, and that is Sorrows and 380 00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:21,759 his ilk when they're when they are injecting massive amounts 381 00:26:21,759 --> 00:26:26,960 of cash into these organizations, these radical organizations, it is 382 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:33,480 about power. It's it's ultimately not about helping people in need. 383 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,960 It is about power. It is about control, is it not. 384 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,839 Speaker 2: I think that that has to be the explanation. Everybody 385 00:26:43,599 --> 00:26:46,039 is always asking me, like, well, he's a billionaire, what's 386 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,759 you know. Normal people think, Hey, if I were a billionaire, 387 00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:50,680 I'd have a lot of fun and I wouldn't bother 388 00:26:50,759 --> 00:26:54,519 many people, right, But apparently that's not true when you 389 00:26:54,519 --> 00:26:58,960 actually have the billions, Because yeah, sorrows doesn't I mean 390 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,599 God Us Macedonian Albania, But right, I mean what sort 391 00:27:02,599 --> 00:27:05,519 of person lies awake at night worried about the governments 392 00:27:05,559 --> 00:27:08,519 of Macedonia and Albania and the answers, well, he and 393 00:27:08,599 --> 00:27:11,519 his minions do, because by God, they're going to they're 394 00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:14,279 interfering with him. In fact, the Albanian prime minister he 395 00:27:14,279 --> 00:27:17,599 helped get elected was just at Alex Soros's you know, 396 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,960 obscenely wealthy wedding. 397 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no doubt about it, you know. And that's 398 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,440 the question too, that comes up. We kind of talked 399 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,319 about it before with the local protest against the Trump 400 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:38,799 administration's immigration enforcement policies. But how many of these NGOs, 401 00:27:39,039 --> 00:27:45,519 or are some of these NGOs involved in beyond radical 402 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:51,640 ideas but moving into violence and supporting violence and violent 403 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,200 actors like for instance, Hamas or hesbelat As. We talk 404 00:27:56,279 --> 00:28:01,319 about those critical geopolitical issues going on, and if that's 405 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,720 the case, our taxpayer is funding that as well. 406 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'll break some news for you. Our 407 00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:14,920 next report on Soros is going to lay out when 408 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,960 as you know, Matt, if we say it, we document it. 409 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,480 That's my rule here. If you can't document it, and 410 00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:22,920 if you work for me, you cannot say it in 411 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,920 public unless you can document it. Everything we say is 412 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,920 thoroughly documented. So we are going to thoroughly document the 413 00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:34,200 all of the groups that have endorsed terrorism. I don't 414 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,960 mean they've said they don't like Israel or that they 415 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,119 think that American foreign policy in the Middle East is terrible. 416 00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:46,480 I mean endorsed, supported, cheered for terrorism. And there's going 417 00:28:46,519 --> 00:28:51,680 to be more than eighty million sorows dollars that have 418 00:28:51,759 --> 00:28:55,759 gone into groups that do that. And there are many 419 00:28:55,799 --> 00:28:58,160 more groups. You know, they're not all funded by Soros. 420 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,559 A lot of them are funded by tides or other 421 00:29:01,839 --> 00:29:05,079 pass through entities, like this thing called Westpac that nobody's 422 00:29:05,119 --> 00:29:08,240 ever heard of, but it's critical to the violent protests 423 00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:12,720 in favor of Hamas around the country. So you have 424 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,039 all kinds. Literally, we've identified at least one hundred and 425 00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:21,599 fifty lefty groups that have endorsed terrorism, not all of 426 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:27,200 them funded by Soros. And you can be sure that 427 00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:32,000 some of those are getting if they're you know, they 428 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,279 could be getting taxpayer dollars in some instances from the 429 00:29:35,319 --> 00:29:38,519 federal government. They could be getting as we talked about 430 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,480 state and local government moneies. One thing they definitely get is, 431 00:29:42,599 --> 00:29:45,039 you know, the Students for Justice in Palestine's probably the 432 00:29:45,079 --> 00:29:49,799 single most important group on violence on campus, and of 433 00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:52,440 course they're on a lot there. They claim to be 434 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,839 on over three hundred campuses. That's probably somewhat overblown, but 435 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,880 they're on dozens and dozens, and some of those are 436 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,200 going to be private campuses like Columbia, but some of 437 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,319 them are going to be your local state university that 438 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,759 your tax dollars are going to. 439 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and I mean that ultimately is the problem, 440 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:19,319 is that these tax dollars continue to pay for radical thoughts, certainly, 441 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:25,400 but radical action ultimately is the problem. What what about 442 00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:34,359 the social issues? You talk about abortion, the trans movement nationally. 443 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,240 You know, we've seen a lot of the crazy reports 444 00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:45,000 about USA and others, you know, dumping in cash into 445 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:50,839 Latin American countries to push these social agendas and abortion. 446 00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:58,200 What what can be done, you know, to to rain 447 00:30:58,319 --> 00:31:02,240 that in, to stop this flow of money because there 448 00:31:02,279 --> 00:31:06,680 are so many different justifications that have come before about 449 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,720 all of these initiatives and priorities so to speak. 450 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:19,039 Speaker 2: Well, again, you know, thorough going congressional oversight is going 451 00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:22,160 to be critical to that. You know, I'm sure the 452 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:27,519 current administration will be doing a whole lot less because 453 00:31:27,599 --> 00:31:31,480 the allegedly racist people in the current administration are not 454 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,319 trying to go kill babies of people of color around 455 00:31:35,359 --> 00:31:44,599 the world, unlike say Hillary Clinton. But you know, there's well, 456 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,000 the so called Mexico City policy, which for bad American 457 00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:51,000 money going to pro abortion groups abroad is a really 458 00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:53,920 important policy. It'd be nice if that could be written 459 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,440 into law so that it's not a matter of you know, 460 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,920 whoever happens to be in the Oval office this afternoon, 461 00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:03,279 and Congress again should just really be policing this sort 462 00:32:03,319 --> 00:32:07,680 of thing thoroughly. Although in fairness, because it's so massive, 463 00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:09,519 it is very hard to do. 464 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,759 Speaker 1: That, it is. And so I guess that's the question too. 465 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:18,720 How do you get a Congress to actually rewrite laws, 466 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,400 right laws to protect tax dollars to going to these 467 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:28,079 far left entities that have politics in mind when the 468 00:32:28,119 --> 00:32:34,200 Democrats in Congress are benefiting from these organizations, partnering and 469 00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:36,079 allies of these organizations. 470 00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:40,359 Speaker 2: No, it's true, And that's why this last hearing was, 471 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,599 you know, the way they described it was so beautiful 472 00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:48,440 that these are this is the left funding its own infrastructure, 473 00:32:48,839 --> 00:32:54,640 the left achieving its own agenda items at home and 474 00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:58,960 all over the world using other people's tax dollars. Now, 475 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,720 you knowmultiple Conservatives at that hearing said, look, I don't 476 00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:05,680 like what George Soros does with his money, and I'm 477 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,880 going to criticize it. But he has a right to 478 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,880 spend his own money on you know, to push views, 479 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,680 to push his views. But the idea of billionaires common 480 00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:23,319 during ordinary Americans, working Americans taxes to to you know, 481 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,720 make their megaphones bigger. That's again, the the injustice of it. 482 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:35,279 Let us even say, the social injustice is off the chart. 483 00:33:35,559 --> 00:33:38,839 And it's so you have members of the Democratic Party 484 00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:42,640 in Congress who say billionaires should not exist, who simultaneously 485 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,279 will defend those billionaires tax dollars that they get for 486 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,200 their own groups. It's I'll never understand. 487 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: It, their favorite oligarchies in the parlance of Bernie Standers, right, 488 00:33:56,359 --> 00:33:59,319 And that's that's that's what it boils down to. Well, 489 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,599 I mean, and and that's a big question as well. 490 00:34:03,119 --> 00:34:08,599 We have seen the dangers, the constant dangers back to 491 00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:16,119 immigration again of these cartels. The United States is effectively 492 00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:21,280 in a kind of war with these cartels. How many 493 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:28,800 of these nonprofits are working with the cartels, defeating the 494 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,840 security of this country. 495 00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 2: Well, you know, this is something you want to talk about, 496 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,800 something that ought to be on the conscience of all 497 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:42,679 the religious workers in the immigration field. You know, how 498 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,599 many people that you urged to leave their village in 499 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:52,519 Honduras or Columbia or Peru or Mexico. How many of 500 00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:57,199 those people that you urged and assisted up toward that 501 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:05,559 American border then got exploited by Cartel's right. You know, 502 00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:11,960 James O'Keefe not that long ago, had you know, undercover 503 00:35:12,119 --> 00:35:17,760 interviews with folks in this immigration industrial complex, and you had, 504 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,639 you know, some aid workers yelling at other aid workers 505 00:35:21,679 --> 00:35:24,679 like you're putting you know, this fifteen year old girl 506 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,519 on an airplane to Minnesota, do you know have any 507 00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:30,000 idea who's going to be there at the other end? 508 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,320 And they just didn't care. 509 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,519 Speaker 1: Amazing, that's heartbreaking, It's really well. 510 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, but by the way, speaking of this kind of grotesque hypocrisy, 511 00:35:40,559 --> 00:35:43,199 let me point out something at the hearing. I unfortunately 512 00:35:43,199 --> 00:35:48,039 none of the members raised this. I'd raised it obliquely, 513 00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:53,440 but you know, the Democrats had one witness, ambassador to Baca, 514 00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:57,639 who was for some years under Obama head of the 515 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,800 anti human Trafficking Office at the State Department, right, And 516 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,360 he's also been a prosecutor, so he is actually a 517 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:10,199 hero in the fight against human trafficking. But he was 518 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:16,719 there to justify the money going to the Soros nonprofits. 519 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,280 Tax dollars going to Soros and other people like that 520 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,519 around the world. And that's outrageous because George Soros is 521 00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:30,440 the single biggest driver of decriminalizing prostitution on the planet. 522 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,159 And I don't think I need to explain too long 523 00:36:34,639 --> 00:36:43,920 how decriminalizing prostitution absolutely is going to drive more human trafficking. 524 00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:49,000 There is absolutely, there's literally, you know, scholarly journal articles 525 00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:53,159 on this, proven by people who are no Trump voters, 526 00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:58,480 no donors of mine, no conservatives. They're you know, women's 527 00:36:58,519 --> 00:37:00,960 activists who think it would be nice if there were 528 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,920 fewer women in sex slavery, and who point out that 529 00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:11,559 the Soro's network is driving decriminalization for prostitution all over 530 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:18,280 the planet, which absolutely means more girls and women sold 531 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:23,559 into sex slavery. Now that ambassador to Baca should be 532 00:37:23,599 --> 00:37:26,280 forced to explain how he can excuse money going to 533 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,639 the Soros network when that same network turns around and 534 00:37:29,679 --> 00:37:33,239 fights to decriminalize the prostitution that drives human trafficking. 535 00:37:33,559 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: It's just insanity, is what it is. And you know, 536 00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:42,480 you think about the recent raids on the marijuana farm 537 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,599 in California. Not only do you have I legal immigrants 538 00:37:47,679 --> 00:37:50,960 working on that farm, people who should not have been 539 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,599 in this country in the first place, you have miners 540 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,360 certainly not following California's very strict labor laws as it 541 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,039 relates to to minors. How do they defend these kinds 542 00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:08,039 of uh, you know, twists in logic? And I guess 543 00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:13,239 more importantly than that, do you believe the American people 544 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,239 are finally getting it, at least the majority of American 545 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,679 people are getting it that there are groups out there 546 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:26,920 that have been given a great deal of American fortune 547 00:38:27,519 --> 00:38:31,960 to act against the interest of America. 548 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,199 Speaker 2: I do think that folks are understanding more and more 549 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,800 and again. You know, one of the things I said 550 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,960 in my testimony is this is, you know, funding this 551 00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:46,360 left wing network is literally democracy suppression. 552 00:38:46,599 --> 00:38:46,679 Speaker 3: Right. 553 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,639 Speaker 2: They don't want to they want to have a voter suppression. 554 00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:54,239 This is democracy suppression. So many left wing things that 555 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,840 our government has been funding with our tax dollars are 556 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:04,960 opposed by strong majorities of Americans and immigration is a 557 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,760 fantastic example. The left is literally in the streets rioting 558 00:39:10,119 --> 00:39:13,360 about immigration enforcement, and yet the last polls I saw 559 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,880 from just the last forty eight hours are no, Actually, 560 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:23,519 large majorities of Americans don't want illegal immigrants violating the 561 00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:27,280 law in the being and being in the country, and 562 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,440 they especially don't want them committing crimes against our neighbors 563 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:36,360 and ourselves. So, you know, this is the whole point. 564 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:41,559 If they had to get this approved by majorities, it couldn't. 565 00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:45,039 It's critical that this all stay in the shadows where 566 00:39:45,079 --> 00:39:49,159 people don't know about it. That's why Jamie Raskin was 567 00:39:49,159 --> 00:39:53,079 there for every second of that hearing, because they're horrified 568 00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:56,559 that Americans are going to learn the truth about this. 569 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot at stake, no doubt about it. 570 00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:04,000 So final question for you. You know, a lot of 571 00:40:04,039 --> 00:40:06,280 people never thought that we could get to a point 572 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,239 where we're actually talking about defunding of Planned Parenthood, federal 573 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:17,039 funds going out of Planned Parenthood because interestingly enough, it's 574 00:40:17,159 --> 00:40:20,880 not quite the women's health center that they like to 575 00:40:21,039 --> 00:40:25,199 call it. Nonetheless, you know, that's been a long, hard 576 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,280 fight for the pro life movement in America. For a 577 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,400 long time. So I guess if you think about that, 578 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,199 you have to imagine that there is hope that we 579 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:40,039 have the will in Congress to cut the funding to 580 00:40:40,119 --> 00:40:43,800 some of the more egregious NGOs out there. Do you 581 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:44,960 see that happening? 582 00:40:46,559 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 2: Well, yes, the Planned Parenthood is a beautiful example. Now 583 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,320 we'll see if they can really make it stick. But 584 00:40:54,960 --> 00:41:02,159 it is it is ever going to be easy, right 585 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,679 the Recisions Bill, which you know was not even pennies 586 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:11,320 on the dollar. Really, you know, they can barely pass that. So, 587 00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:15,360 you know, concerned Americans need to keep up the pressure 588 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:22,039 on Congress about not having tax dollars wasted in all 589 00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:22,760 these ways. 590 00:41:24,119 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: Indeed, and there's so much waste going on, I mean 591 00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:31,760 just simple waste. But then when you're looking at where 592 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:39,119 these dollars are going, the radicalization of populations. Again, money 593 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,239 spent not in the interest of this country for so 594 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:48,519 many reasons. This is an extremely important topic. Thanks for 595 00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:49,599 joining us today, Scott. 596 00:41:49,639 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 2: I really appreciate it, really appreciate being here. 597 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: Matt b. That's Scott Walter, president of Capital Research Center, 598 00:41:57,519 --> 00:42:02,280 tremendous tracker of foundations, chair these other nonprofits. You've been 599 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,920 listening to another edition of The Federalist Radio Hour. I'm 600 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,679 Matt Kittle, Senior Elections correspondent at the Federalist. We'll be 601 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,440 back soon with more. Until then, stay lovers of freedom. 602 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,079 I'm anxious for the fray. 603 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 2: I heard the fame, voice the Reason, and then 604 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: It faded away.