Speaker 1: Stuck at home, bored and alone. You'd think I could
Speaker 1: have some fun on my own, but not all. I
Speaker 1: bought AF with Cecily and Stephanie.
Speaker 2: What's up, everybody, Welcome to board AF Patreon Patreon. I
Speaker 2: like French.
Speaker 1: I like that for you. I love that for you.
Speaker 2: Do you think that when they invented When Jack whatever
Speaker 2: his name is I forgot his last name, invented Patreon,
Speaker 2: do you think he meant it to be said in
Speaker 2: a French accent.
Speaker 1: Paulon, Yes, I do. Actually it was a Jack from Twitter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3: He's hot. He's a good looking dude. But then he
Speaker 3: grew like a very long crazy beard. I'm not sure
Speaker 3: if that was AI or not. By the way, I'm
Speaker 3: having trouble with AI. This is not the Patreon, but
Speaker 3: I cannot tell what's real anymore. I get tricked all
Speaker 3: the time, just all the time.
Speaker 2: And I feel like they're like, if you're looking at
Speaker 2: a tweet, not a tweet, like a TikTok a video
Speaker 2: that it usually says something that it alerted to that
Speaker 2: it's AI. But why do they have to? Maybe they're
Speaker 2: just like, well, they do they do have to, But
Speaker 2: I why do they have to.
Speaker 3: Have you seen the thing where it's like a woman
Speaker 3: they're on the subway tracks and a guy's kind of
Speaker 3: walking drunk drunk he's like something else?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, So I saw it and it didn't
Speaker 1: look real to me. So I don't know why.
Speaker 3: I don't even usually comment, but I was like, that's
Speaker 3: the most Ai thing that's ever AI, and a lot
Speaker 3: of people like that, and they agreed with me, and
Speaker 3: then this one person got mad. They're like, have you
Speaker 3: ever heard of the news? I was like, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: I've heard of the news. I don't understand. She's like
Speaker 3: it's it was all over the news. So I guess
Speaker 3: it was real, but I still don't.
Speaker 1: Was it because I thought it was fake. I think
Speaker 1: it was fake too.
Speaker 3: If my instinct said it was faked, probably it didn't
Speaker 3: look like a person really would walk like that, did you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were very exaggeratedly drunk.
Speaker 3: So somebody was like, that's not drunk, that's like they're
Speaker 3: having like a black They're having like a stroke or
Speaker 3: something like that. I don't think so, And they just
Speaker 3: happened to walk towards the tracks and then like boop.
Speaker 3: But then they're not gonna fake that so just I
Speaker 3: just figured it was Ai, but.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't they fall exactly. I believed all the deep
Speaker 3: fakes of Tom Cruise.
Speaker 1: I believe.
Speaker 3: I did not know about the deep fake, Like I
Speaker 3: didn't know like a year ago, and I'm like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, Tom Cruise sang this song at karaoke.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't have expected that. Nothing is real.
Speaker 3: What was the song? I don't remember. It was a
Speaker 3: deep fake. They had him singing it was just ridiculous. Oh,
Speaker 3: they had him like, oh, I remember what it was.
Speaker 3: They had him doing a ridiculously like kind of racist
Speaker 3: like Asian accent. Remember he was like saying he was
Speaker 3: in Japan and then he did like a weird accent.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that doesn't seem like Tom Cruise. That's so weird.
Speaker 1: And then everyone's like, no, it's not real. That's not real.
Speaker 2: Then everybody's like, oh my god, Tom Cruise is so racist,
Speaker 2: and it all right comes back to.
Speaker 1: That, right, and it's not that's not We can say.
Speaker 3: A lot of things about Tom Cruise, but I don't
Speaker 3: think that's one of them, right, right, I love him.
Speaker 1: It's kind of yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I know, I believe me. I could argue the other side.
Speaker 3: He's I don't think he's great, but I would marry
Speaker 3: him for a contract. I would contractually marry him if
Speaker 3: he's wanting to do that again.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just saying, does he seem like he
Speaker 2: does want to do it again?
Speaker 3: He does date, but he does tend to date much much,
Speaker 3: much younger. I know that is a shock, and I'm
Speaker 3: going to save this. I'm not going to talk about
Speaker 3: all that because I'm going to save that for Hollywood
Speaker 3: cringe you guys should listen to. But yeah, there's a
Speaker 3: couple of there's a couple of new new couple, new
Speaker 3: couple alerts.
Speaker 1: That they Ageerence is like forty to fifty years. What evs?
Speaker 1: Who cares? If they could be your great great grandfather.
Speaker 1: I've given up.
Speaker 3: But speaking of grandparents, that's going to bring us to
Speaker 3: our topic today, which I hope you're I have two things,
Speaker 3: but it's all related. So I was digging through some
Speaker 3: of my mom's stuff, trying to help her go through stuff,
Speaker 3: and I found her mother's old diary and it's leather
Speaker 3: bound and all, you know, really lovely, and it's from
Speaker 3: nineteen thirty one, So it's a year in her life
Speaker 3: of nineteen thirty one. And the weirdest thing is it
Speaker 3: matches up so like today's date is also on a Saturday,
Speaker 3: do you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean?
Speaker 3: So whatever year like somehow, Matt, Yeah, I was really
Speaker 3: and I've had it for a couple of years, and
Speaker 3: I feel really guilty because I looked at it a
Speaker 3: couple times and I was like, oh, like, she was beautiful.
Speaker 1: She passed very young.
Speaker 3: She died when my mother was fifteen, and so she
Speaker 3: died like, so this is nineteen thirty one, and I
Speaker 3: want to say she passed, yeah, in the fifties, so
Speaker 3: she didn't live that much longer.
Speaker 1: But I obviously never got to meet her.
Speaker 3: It's named after her her, which is kind of kind
Speaker 3: of cool, right, her name was so it wasn't Cecily,
Speaker 3: it was Celia. But my mom was looking at the
Speaker 3: different like ways to say that, and she didn't like Cecilia.
Speaker 3: She didn't mind it, but she wanted something else. So
Speaker 3: that's how it happened. But so she I would look
Speaker 3: at this Nope, I would look at this diary and
Speaker 3: I was like, God, we were so different. I was
Speaker 3: really excited to sit down with it, and I don't
Speaker 3: know what I expected, but I was like, oh god,
Speaker 3: it's kind of basic.
Speaker 1: I feel really was like, I don't know if we
Speaker 1: would have been friends.
Speaker 3: I don't see the through line. Then today, out of nowhere,
Speaker 3: I just picked it up. I'm like, let me actually
Speaker 3: really read. It's hard to read because her handwriting is good,
Speaker 3: but it's just it's flowery. I'm having a hard time
Speaker 3: reading it. But when I was like, let me just
Speaker 3: work through it, let me read this, and I realized,
Speaker 3: like we're exactly the same, because there's so many times
Speaker 3: that it starts with she's much more refined than I am,
Speaker 3: because remember it's the thirties and she's sitting there probably
Speaker 3: with like a beautiful pen, you know, writing in this book.
Speaker 1: But like a lot of it will say like today blue, Like.
Speaker 3: One of them was a Monday, Monday whatever date, and
Speaker 3: she's like blue Monday, and then she says that a lot.
Speaker 1: She's like blue Wednesday. I'm really blue. I don't know why,
Speaker 1: and I don't know.
Speaker 3: It never occurred to me to ask my mother, who
Speaker 3: doesn't talk about things like that very much.
Speaker 1: Like what was your mom?
Speaker 3: Like what my mom describes her as always is just
Speaker 3: the sweetest woman in the world. My mom has very
Speaker 3: black and white thinking you're either all good or all bad.
Speaker 3: So the sweetest. She never did anything wrong, so I'm thinking, okay,
Speaker 3: she had no edge. She was absolutely perfect. She probably
Speaker 3: was very sweet.
Speaker 1: But reading her diary, like of course my mother, I
Speaker 1: don't know that she ever even read that, but almost
Speaker 1: every day was I'm very very blue. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of letters sending so waiting for a letter.
Speaker 3: So Max was my grandfather and they had met but
Speaker 3: were not married yet, so a lot of the entries
Speaker 3: were like Max wrote me a letter today, I can't
Speaker 3: wait to read it.
Speaker 1: Matt, I wrote Max a letter, So I was like, god.
Speaker 3: She would have been floored by Facebook on Instagram and
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Oh my god, yeah, all
Speaker 3: she's doing. So all it was was like feeling blue
Speaker 3: and writing that down, which I do in a different way.
Speaker 3: Mine's poems about you know, clowns or whatever however I
Speaker 3: express it. But being sad, boy crazy, constantly talking about
Speaker 3: boys or whoever her love interest is, which happened to
Speaker 3: me my grandpa, which is lovely, but there were probably
Speaker 3: other guys, you know, in her years past.
Speaker 1: You definitely had big crushes.
Speaker 3: And wanting to receive the message, not really being in
Speaker 3: the present, kind of constantly talking about letters and where
Speaker 3: people were and like did they get my letter?
Speaker 1: And I so me like I don't know, man like
Speaker 1: kind of a cool thing to have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of makes you feel less crazy when
Speaker 2: you're like, oh no, this is a thing that's gone
Speaker 2: with genetic Yeah that through the years people have felt
Speaker 2: this way.
Speaker 3: Or maybe it's a lot of women, like you know,
Speaker 3: we forget. I don't know how often you're more open.
Speaker 3: You're so open, But I wonder like do your kids,
Speaker 3: like does LB ever say like, what were you like
Speaker 3: at my age? Or do you just do you talk
Speaker 3: about that kind of stuff because we don't think about it.
Speaker 2: I don't really ask me totally honest.
Speaker 3: But I don't think we did either. I didn't ask,
Speaker 3: I didn't think about it. I was we're all in
Speaker 3: our own movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I've told Xander's like definitely of my
Speaker 2: kids the most interested and sort of the past, and
Speaker 2: he's asked me a lot of questions about what it
Speaker 2: was like to like do stand up and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, is Xander going to do stand up, do
Speaker 2: we think I think he wants to.
Speaker 1: I would love that.
Speaker 3: Let's make that happen, okay, but then also like just
Speaker 3: be like also go more of the music route for life,
Speaker 3: go and be a comic.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean it's hard. I've talked to him about that,
Speaker 2: about how I've talked to him at length about how
Speaker 2: I wanted to be a comedian and I did become
Speaker 2: a comedian and how much that life kind of sucked
Speaker 2: and how I had to let that go and not
Speaker 2: be doing all things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh I love him.
Speaker 3: Well, it got me, so I know we're going to
Speaker 3: I'm not going to pull out all the journals, but
Speaker 3: I found one that we I haven't pulled from. I
Speaker 3: put a lot of my my diaries, which I kept
Speaker 3: very extensively myself most of my life until I started
Speaker 3: writing on the computer.
Speaker 1: But I found my.
Speaker 3: Junior high diary, so this would have been she was older.
Speaker 3: I don't think how old she would have been. I'm
Speaker 3: not good at the math stuff, but she would have
Speaker 3: been probably in her early.
Speaker 1: Twenties, late teens.
Speaker 3: So I found mine from a little bit younger of
Speaker 3: my probably most angsy time, like angsty time.
Speaker 2: Oh, you were most in middle school.
Speaker 1: My oh fuck, yeah, weren't you you were older than me?
Speaker 2: No, I was, no, I was bullied. No, middle school
Speaker 2: was terrible for me.
Speaker 1: Middle school is a oh.
Speaker 3: I was out of my mind. So I think, let
Speaker 3: me just make sure I think this is middle school.
Speaker 1: So I wasn't. So I love that.
Speaker 3: I got my beautiful and she was beautiful grandmother's diary
Speaker 3: and was like.
Speaker 1: Basic and it was nothing. It was not basic at all.
Speaker 3: Then I opened my little notebook which Garfield on the cover,
Speaker 3: and I'm.
Speaker 1: Calling her basic.
Speaker 3: Now I'm checking myself because hers like beautiful handwriting and
Speaker 3: really honest and like just lovely. So let me just
Speaker 3: read you some of mine from a little younger than
Speaker 3: this age than a courage. But it's a Garfield holding
Speaker 3: a Teddy Bear, says mini notebooks.
Speaker 1: I'm going to open first page is I heard Duran, Duran?
Speaker 1: I don't care. Who cares?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: That's not now which one of us between my grandmother
Speaker 1: who is named after and who's incredible, which one of
Speaker 1: us like deserves the word basic? That's fun.
Speaker 3: Me concert was great, I said, okay, so then we none.
Speaker 2: This is so you were going to concert. That's pretty
Speaker 2: young to be going to comment.
Speaker 1: My dad was a DJ. He was a DJ.
Speaker 3: I started going to concerts when I was like five. Wow, yes,
Speaker 3: I went to all the anything I wanted to see.
Speaker 3: We could get tickets and it was and my parents
Speaker 3: started letting me go alone. By twelve, I went to
Speaker 3: Duran Duran by myself with a friend Elayne. We had
Speaker 3: a blast. I tried to climb on stage. Nobody cared.
Speaker 3: It was gen x Man eighties drop off a reunion arena,
Speaker 3: pick back up.
Speaker 2: We're I mean, I feel like like parents are fairly
Speaker 2: strict these days. You would think it's the other way around.
Speaker 2: But for any of my parent friends, you know, a
Speaker 2: lot of my kids were not allowed to go. Well,
Speaker 2: they were allowed to go do stuff. My kids were,
Speaker 2: but like other parents wouldn't let their kids go. So
Speaker 2: it was really hard for my kids to go have
Speaker 2: fun because they'd write a friend to go with. And
Speaker 2: I was always like, god, wow, am I that lenient?
Speaker 2: But I also feel like I remember in those days
Speaker 2: parents were kind of the same, Like a lot of
Speaker 2: parents were very strict, so you must have found something friends.
Speaker 3: I had pretty lenient parents and we were all. It
Speaker 3: was just it was a time, but here's my next one.
Speaker 3: So hers was like, oh I felt so sad today
Speaker 3: and waiting for my beloved and here's mine. That's hers. Okay,
Speaker 3: here's mine today. Here's what you're wearing. White and brown
Speaker 3: polo sweater, white shirt underneath, playing guest jeans, jewelry, gold bracelet,
Speaker 3: swatch hair, nothing, shoes, pray.
Speaker 1: Now that's what I wrote in my journal. Huh huh.
Speaker 3: And I did that every day because I didn't want
Speaker 3: to repeat outfits because I was really deep. I was
Speaker 3: really really like God, I was so in touch with
Speaker 3: like feelings.
Speaker 1: And I mean, you know next does that?
Speaker 2: You know who does that? Kids on TikTok and on Instagram.
Speaker 2: Haven't you ever seen these seen or heard these accounts?
Speaker 2: Or maybe I just do because of the kids, but
Speaker 2: a lot of kids have these outfit of the day accounts.
Speaker 1: God, I kind of want to do it again. Now
Speaker 1: I just wear the same thing. Ever, I've been wearing
Speaker 1: the same Wicked sweatshirt every day for two months.
Speaker 3: I love I write that in a journal. I didn't
Speaker 3: even like Wicked that much. It was just it was
Speaker 3: just swag from the studio. You know, they just send
Speaker 3: it to you. So I'm like, it's soft.
Speaker 2: That could be funny to do, like a parody account
Speaker 2: of outfit of the day, but it's just like the
Speaker 2: same three days in a row. It's the same sweatshirt
Speaker 2: and sweatpants.
Speaker 1: I mean, I had a lot of I do want
Speaker 1: to say in the eighties.
Speaker 3: This was like Junior High eighty five whatever, eighties, Like
Speaker 3: I had some good Oh this one Saturday. I think
Speaker 3: I read this one to you before, but I just
Speaker 3: wrote please no drama gag out. Now, like I said,
Speaker 3: my grandmother had different. She didn't say please no drama,
Speaker 3: gag out.
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm.
Speaker 3: Feeling I don't know why I'm feeling so sad, and
Speaker 3: I miss Max. No drama gag out. And then I
Speaker 3: wrote Sunday Sunday school, no way.
Speaker 1: And that's it. That's it.
Speaker 3: That was my Uh, that's what I want you to
Speaker 3: know from that year. That's what was happening. But I
Speaker 3: had great taste and clothes. I really did. Uh, this
Speaker 3: is fucked up. I'm going to redo something that I
Speaker 3: haven't seen since this year. This might be a different
Speaker 3: Patreon you know what. We might release this as a
Speaker 3: regular show. We might put this up as Patreon first
Speaker 3: because I'm going to be interested in.
Speaker 1: This special Notes of the Week.
Speaker 3: I write yet Alfred's Birthday, get Alfred's birthday present?
Speaker 1: So do you want to know who Alfred is? Yes?
Speaker 1: Would you like to know who that is? Right?
Speaker 3: There's also I also said, where mada of gloves? We're
Speaker 3: fusion are right? Fluorescent pink shirt and Madonna gloves. So
Speaker 3: that's what I was wearing that day. But Alfred, I
Speaker 3: feel like this is for another show.
Speaker 1: Do I keep going? Yes? Keep it going?
Speaker 3: Okay, I had to have told this, but in junior high,
Speaker 3: my bestie and I were, as you can see from
Speaker 3: the Garfield notebook, very obsessed with Duran Duran. So I
Speaker 3: took one of the albums and I found the phone
Speaker 3: number for EMI Studios.
Speaker 1: I think I told you this, and it was.
Speaker 3: Like an England number like four four seventh, you know,
Speaker 3: seven whatever, And I was like, let's call it, and
Speaker 3: we figured we had to call the operator. I definitely
Speaker 3: told you this, but I may not have told you
Speaker 3: the second part. So we had to call an international operator,
Speaker 3: which was like not just zero, it was like zero
Speaker 3: one to one or something. We figured it out and
Speaker 3: they're like I remember them saying We're like, please connect
Speaker 3: us to this number, but we were obviously children, and
Speaker 3: one time the operators like, are you sure, yes, so
Speaker 3: they put us through to this phone number at Emi Studio.
Speaker 3: The person who answers the phone is this much older man, okay,
Speaker 3: very English, and he's like hello, he'll do and we
Speaker 3: were like laughing and whatever.
Speaker 1: Like we love Duran Duran. He's like, oh, so he
Speaker 1: would talk to us.
Speaker 3: Now, I'm not saying in any way, I'm not I
Speaker 3: don't want to put anything on this guy because he
Speaker 3: never said anything inappropriate to us, But in retrospect, it
Speaker 3: was strange that he I think we might have said
Speaker 3: we were seventeen, but we were twelve, and.
Speaker 2: He he did. Like.
Speaker 3: So we began a friendship with this man named Alfred.
Speaker 3: I feel okay talking about this because there's absolutely no
Speaker 3: way he's still alive, right, absolutely no way. He was
Speaker 3: very old, and so we started like penpaling. We got
Speaker 3: his address at Emi Studios and we gave him our address.
Speaker 1: He did not show up, he didn't live here.
Speaker 3: And he would send us pictures of the band of
Speaker 3: Duran durand he would send us pictures of.
Speaker 2: His penis and it just was totally like a normal thing.
Speaker 2: It didn't mean it in like any kind of weird way.
Speaker 2: But he didn't do anything like that. It was always
Speaker 2: pictures of the band. So then one day we're like,
Speaker 2: send us a picture of you, and so he did,
Speaker 2: and what he sent was a picture of George Michael.
Speaker 2: But George Michael hadn't become super famous yet, so it
Speaker 2: just looked.
Speaker 1: Like a really hot guy.
Speaker 3: Oh, he did not know who it was yet, so
Speaker 3: this may have been a little before whatever. So then
Speaker 3: maybe we're in like sixth grade. So then he we
Speaker 3: gave him our phone number two, and he would call
Speaker 3: the house and my mom it'd be like what my
Speaker 3: mom would answer, and he'd be.
Speaker 1: Like, hello, tel fridge, is Cecily home?
Speaker 3: And my mom would just be like mm hmmm, because
Speaker 3: again gen X eighties. She thought it was a little odd,
Speaker 3: but she wasn't scared because he didn't live here and
Speaker 3: he planning on coming, she knew. But I mean it
Speaker 3: was weird, but we would have these like I guess
Speaker 3: when I think back, it's kind of Michael jacksony. But
Speaker 3: he wasn't in any way grooming us. He didn't say
Speaker 3: anything like anything. One day really might want you.
Speaker 2: Let me just remind you that on our coverage on
Speaker 2: Rose Pricks, which hopefully is where you're listening. Well, no,
Speaker 2: you're listening to Patreon. On our cover Corey Feldman, who
Speaker 2: has claimed for years and years and years that the
Speaker 2: case against Michael Jackson is ridiculous. He's a great guy,
Speaker 2: super super nice. He meant no harm. I can't believe it.
Speaker 2: But also, yes, Michael Jackson did show him pornography, but
Speaker 2: he wasn't grooming him.
Speaker 1: I know, but he didn't show his pornography or anything like,
Speaker 1: he really didn't. I don't want to speak ill of
Speaker 1: his I know it's odd, but maybe it was just
Speaker 1: I mean, look at Harold and Maud, it was like
Speaker 1: maybe just a friendship. Maybe he missed his grandkids or
Speaker 1: maybe he just you know, it was never it was
Speaker 1: never weird. I can check back it.
Speaker 3: It was weird that he that we did that, and
Speaker 3: we ran up a seven hundred dollars FuMB bill which
Speaker 3: we had to pay off in chores.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, how are we going to do that? But yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's not like me. I lost my mind. A
Speaker 1: little came to Duran, Duran, but to us, it was
Speaker 1: like a connection to them and he you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. But one day he.
Speaker 3: Sent and he's like, oh, I have a dog. Because
Speaker 3: I sent him a picture of my dog. He's like,
Speaker 3: I love it. And he's like and I was on
Speaker 3: my desk and guess who saw it? And I was like,
Speaker 3: who saw it? Was like Simon. So I was like,
Speaker 3: Simon Lebond saw a picture of my daddy's like he
Speaker 3: picked it up and said cute pop.
Speaker 1: I was like, shut up.
Speaker 3: First of all, he probably didn't, but then I was like,
Speaker 3: we'll say. He goes, I have a bagle. So he
Speaker 3: sends a picture of the beagle and you can tell
Speaker 3: that it's a very old man who lives in England
Speaker 3: in the eighties. It was a time, you know, very
Speaker 3: like middle class englishman who worked as a studio security
Speaker 3: guard and was probably a little bit lonely.
Speaker 1: Never inappropriate.
Speaker 3: It was not I mean, thank god we didn't live there,
Speaker 3: you know, like, it wasn't like that. But it was
Speaker 3: this friendship. So obviously if I was saying, I was,
Speaker 3: and I do remember this. I got Alfred a present.
Speaker 3: I don't remember what it was, but my mom mailed
Speaker 3: it for us. She mailed it to England to the
Speaker 3: studio and he was very pleased to get I think
Speaker 3: it was like a scarf, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: And I don't know came of him. Yeah. This so
Speaker 1: we kind of kind of went and we started with
Speaker 1: a diary.
Speaker 2: I just went for a little bit of deer television
Speaker 2: when you were trying to find the guy, the guy
Speaker 2: that I.
Speaker 1: Hooked up with. But see, I feel to bring it
Speaker 1: back full circle.
Speaker 3: If you didn't listen to that episode of Dear Tellers,
Speaker 3: it's one of our best and you had a great
Speaker 3: story too.
Speaker 2: We should play that one for well, this is Christmas week,
Speaker 2: we should play that one as a as a best
Speaker 2: of for the next week.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and uh in that I to bring it back
Speaker 3: full circle from my grandmother's diary. Had she had she
Speaker 3: gone on a crazy trip to London, as boy crazy
Speaker 3: as she would, she one hundred percent would have tried
Speaker 3: to track down this guy.
Speaker 1: Now, I don't, like you.
Speaker 3: Said, I don't feel as crazy because yeah, I think
Speaker 3: it's in the blood. It's just in the fan. It
Speaker 3: runs in the fam. But she was much deeper and
Speaker 3: more beautiful than I could ever ever be. And I
Speaker 3: apologize that I ever for a second thought that she was.
Speaker 2: Did you tell your mom that you started reading this stuff?
Speaker 1: No, because we don't talk about stuff like that. I
Speaker 1: my mom.
Speaker 3: I want to believe me. I try, but she doesn't.
Speaker 3: She's not that interested. I'll try again. I'll try again.
Speaker 3: I don't know that she would get it on the level,
Speaker 3: like she'd just like hmm.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think I'll ask her because
Speaker 1: I'll say, was she sad? Was she she?
Speaker 2: Well, maybe she doesn't remember her mom that well since
Speaker 2: she lost her at fifteen, And she probably also tries
Speaker 2: to paint it in a certain way in her mind
Speaker 2: because of course that was her, like you know, she
Speaker 2: loved her so much.
Speaker 3: That was her like saint, right, So I get that,
Speaker 3: but I will ask her about it, call her today.
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