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And again, thank you so much for your support. Recent

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death threats against US Senator Tom Tillis have continued to grow,

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with graphic phone calls being released by his staff in

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a YouTube video as evidence. This is the report from

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Teresa Opeka at the Carolina Journal Carolina Journal dot com.

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The threats reflect an unsettling trend in America's civil society,

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happening from the White House to school boards. There's a

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reason for this. By the way, a woman can be

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heard saying that the joy of her week. That's a

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quote from this woman who called left the message. She

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said it was the joy of her week when she

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heard other phone calls that were made, including a man

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threatening to bash Tillis's head with an axe handle, and

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all the comments were quote giving her life. So she

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lives to torment with violent threats. That's what that's her

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reason for living. It's giving her life, it's making her happy. Right,

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There is a psychological condition that this describes. In an

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explative laced call, a man said that he quote might

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drive to North Carolina and shoot Tillis dead in the

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streets like the dog. He is describing how he hoped

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horrible things would happen to his wife and children in

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front of him. Still, another call made by the same

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man said you're all gonna die. Tom's gonna die, with

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talk of his office being blown up with his staff inside,

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and how all patriotic Americans would be clapping and thankful

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that it happened. The Charlotte Observer posted a column by

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the editorial board, and according to the report at Carolina Journal,

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the search engine title pops up as quote, threats against

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Tillis are wrong. But let me just stop you right there, McClatchy, Okay,

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just you could have just just put a period, threats

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against Tillis are wrong. Period. That's it. That's all you

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need to say. That's the end of the freaking column. Guys.

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There's nothing else to it. There's no but voters are scared.

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To stop conflating your neuro with violent threats with physical violence.

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You being afraid of everything up to end, including your shadow,

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does not give anybody license to make violent threats, let

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alone carry them out. Now, when you go to the

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Charlotte Observer page, now the headline reads, death threats against

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Tom Tillis are shameful. We hope he responds in the

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right way, in the right way. See see Senator Tillis.

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If you hadn't been wearing that skirt, it was really short.

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You know, you can't just say it's wrong. This is

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the thing about the left. There's always some sort of equivocation.

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There's always some sort of dismissiveness or what about ism?

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Always I'm not saying he should have threatened him, but

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I understand, right, that's what you're doing. That's what you're saying,

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and the people that read your rag are getting the

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same message that I'm getting, which is lip service. Lip service.

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Violence is beden, Kay. But I understand why you might

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be feeling so said and might be driven to do

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something like that. Let's try to keep in mind that

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these are people that are really, really scared. On March sixth,

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local Democrat Party groups and the Indivisible You're gonna hear

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their name a couple times. Today, Indivisible Guilford County chapter

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organized a protest at his at Tillis's Greensboro office. So

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this would have been like two weeks ago. Indivisible at

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the national level was formed in response to Trump's twenty

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sixteen election victory. So this is the resistance right where

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they believe violence is a viable option. They do. Now

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some may say, oh, I don't think there should be violence,

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but they do. That's why you get the what aboutism,

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That's why you get the dismissiveness of the threats. That's

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why you have these headlines, is that they actually do

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kind of sort of thing. Violence is okay in some circumstances.

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To quote somebody after the October seventh massacre in Israel,

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what did you think decolonialization meant? This is at the

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core of the philosophy. Folks, recognize where we are, Recognize

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who these people are, and if you are unwilling to

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simply state they are wrong, period, end of story. Know

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what aboutisms?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: I understand isms, no conflation with something else. It is

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a simple thing, you know, like how you guys wrote

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all of those pieces is about January sixth, and the

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pieces were straightforward. The January sixth rioters were wrong. Violence

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is never acceptable, period, full stop, end of story. That

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was all you had to say about that. You didn't

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talk about, you know, people in the crowd feeling anxious,

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feeling that their votes were stolen, feeling that the election

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was stolen. You didn't care about any of the motivation.

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All you cared about was the end result. The action.

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That's what is required of you now is to treat

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this the same way you treated the j six That's it,

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and you can't do it. This is democrat privilege. By

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the way, Republicans don't get to say this. And by

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the way, here's another angle of the privilege, which is

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that there is no calls for disavowal. There's no calls

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to defend right the game of D and D that

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the media loves to play with Republicans on J six

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for example, throwing that in every Republican and conservative space

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for the last five years, demanding that they defend or

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disavow everything and then the pardons and everything else, not

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caring about any of the particulars of any of the cases.

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They don't care. They want to play D and D

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against you, they will not play it against Democrats. That's

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democrat privilege as well. They never have to defend or

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disavow this kind of violence. And on the rare occasion

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when they are called to speak about the topic, they

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give you this kind of crap, this, what about ism?

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Speaker 4: This?

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's right, but I understand. Legislators in

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Raleigh are also taking notice of the threats and saying

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that it is happening to local public servants too, threatening

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state level politicians like lawmakers, judges, even the governor. It's

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already a felony under state law, but a new bill

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would raise the classification. It's called House Bill ninety five,

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and it's on the calendar for Wednesday. So this was

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a story that ran the eighteen so this would have

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been yesterday. It was calendared for yesterday, and it would

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raise the threatening of local politicians like city council members

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or school board members. It would raise it to from

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a misdemeanor, yeah, up to a felony. And then Teresa

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Opeika's report at the very end talks about a study

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that was done by the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point,

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and they put out a report over the summer that

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shows threats against public officials are at an all time high. So,

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if you go back a decade and you look at

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a three year window from twenty thirteen to twenty sixteen,

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there was an average across America of about thirty eight

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threats per year thirty eight over that three year span.

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In the next three or four year span, it almost

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doubled up to sixty two a year. In twenty twenty three,

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it went to eighty two a year, and last year

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it was at one hundred and eight per year. There

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is a reason this is happening on CNN. Scott Jennings,

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who's like the only Republican that they have given a

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key FOB to to gain access into their building? I

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think no, Liz Cheney doesn't count. No, Adam Kinsinger doesn't

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count either. Scott Jennings got into a heated argument with

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Nira Tanden. Does that name ring a bell near a Tandon?

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This is Hillary Clinton's bff. She's from the Center for

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American Progress, leftist organization. Joe Biden tried to put her

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into his administration, but thank god, Joe Mansion blocked her appointment.

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She is a partisan hack, and you will hear exactly

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what it is that I'm talking about with this what

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aboutism and this this dismissiveness and this conflation with j six.

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You're gonna hear it from her, and Jennings loses it

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Let's jump over to the phones and talk with Marty

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real quick. Hey Marty, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Hi?

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Speaker 5: Hi Pete, how are you doing good? I got a

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hypothetical question, and it's gonna sound a little weird, but

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if I know the progression of how the Democrats and

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others are trying to become more and more violent, and

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I don't really see any words or any kind of

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ideology can be put upon them that would change their minds,

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And you know, just hypothetically, I know it probably couldn't

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happen or wouldn't happen. But if you could have, say

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like in eighteen sixty, if you'd have a civil war

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that would change the Democrat party completely, say for one

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hundred years, would it be worth it?

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Speaker 2: I don't think war is ever worth it. I don't

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know if it's I don't know how avoidable it might be. Though,

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two hours because I'm going to be going into a

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theory that was put forward by William Strauss and Neil

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Howe on the Four Turnings of how all of our

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country and much of the Anglo history follows a cyclical pattern,

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and we are what we are in what they refer

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to as the fourth turning, which is the crisis phase

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of the eighty to one hundred year cycle. And the

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crisis phase has some sort of massive conflict, either from

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external or internal forces.

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Speaker 5: You can almost feel it in the air, Pete, it's

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not going to end well, I don't think something major

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is going to have to take place. There's no way

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around it. I just don't see hearts changing at this point,

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and it's getting worse, and there's always a bowling point

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and then you know the pot so somewhat explode, right,

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Speaker 2: We think, yeah, that's the that is the fear. I

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appreciate the call, Marty, stay tuned for the because like that,

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this is the This is the focus of the of

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the program, is the fourth Turning. Because the stuff that

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This is happening. Ill, I lean towards believing. Let me

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just say it that way. Here is Scott Jennings and

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near A Tandon on CNN.

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Speaker 4: Doubtful.

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Speaker 6: It's Republicans attacking Tesla dealerships around the country.

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Speaker 4: It's pretty wild.

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Speaker 6: Actually, the other night Donald Trump said these are domestic terrorists.

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Everybody laughed about it and scoffed at it. That video

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looks like terrorism to me. I mean, it's obviously an organized,

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coordinated effort. However, people are are communicating with each other

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to do this to people around the country who chose

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to buy a Tesla at some point in the past,

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many of whom I'm sure were Democrats who bought them

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in the first place, all because their entire political worldview

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is ruled by their emotions. And that's the American left

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right now. It is one angry mob after another willing

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to take things into their own hands, up to and

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including king fire bombing and otherwise vandalizing cars and car

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dealerships and charging stations.

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Speaker 4: It's outrageous. It is terrorism.

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Speaker 6: People ought to be put in jail and left there

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for a very long time and be taught a lesson.

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Speaker 7: So when they do it to a Tesla Dealership. It's

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really bad, but when they do it to the halls

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of Congress, we should pardon them.

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Speaker 4: Is that your position?

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Speaker 6: No, I've never you're okay, I know you, I know

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you have I know you haven't been around for a while.

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Speaker 4: So let me educate you about my position about January.

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I'm so sorry. Let me educate you. Let me educate you. No,

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you don't need to you know you don't need and

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you don't need to be condescending to me. So let

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me educate you about my position. You want to technique,

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let me, let me finish, Let me finish it, Let

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me finish. Let's do this January sixth, the sorry getting

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the yeah, I'm sorry. You're a condescend person who hasn't

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been paying attention to what I do. So here's the issue.

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Speaker 6: I didn't support what happened on January the sixth, and

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was one of the first Republicans to call it out.

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I don't support the pardons. I have repeatedly, just like

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my friend Ashley here, I said, no violence in our

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political system is acceptable. But this right here, what's going

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on with a guy who helps our country, who runs

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successful companies, who doesn't have to be doing this and

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now one of his companies is under systematic terroristic threat

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and violence all over the country, and people seem.

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Speaker 4: To be laughing about it or fine with it. It's outrageous.

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Speaker 6: I've sat at this table and had people say we

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should cut Elon Musk from the government totally. He rescued

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our astronauts today, is that what we want?

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Speaker 4: The treatment of this guy is outrageous.

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Speaker 6: These people who are doing this need to be found,

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put in jail and made an example of.

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Speaker 7: That's anyone who commits violence against Tesla or Congress or

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anyone else should be put in jail. One thousand percent. Well,

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that's does not stifle dissent or opposition from Elon Musk.

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Speaker 4: Give it a little lip service, give it a little both.

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Speaker 7: Sides here, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry to say

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that both are legitimately upset.

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Speaker 2: Somebody dropped and they're getting on their own.

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Speaker 7: But there is no reason I have violence in the country.

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But I just wish all of us would support criticism

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of war, would support punishing people who are violent wherever

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they are.

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Speaker 2: All Right, So did you hear what she just did there?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: She did the I'm not saying violence is okay, but

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I'm morally superior to you. Charles Cook from National Review

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was on the Megan Kelly Show podcast the other night.

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He is an American citizen by choice. He came here

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and became naturalized as a citizen probably about a decade ago.

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And fantastic writer. He was on the Megan Kelly Show

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the other day. She played that clip that I just

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played for you of Scott Jennings arguing with near a

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Tanden and near a Tanden. This leftist hack could not

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simply say, as Charlie Cook says, speaking just as a

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citizen of a free republic, that it's never acceptable to

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fire bomb a car dealership because you don't like the owner.

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That is all that is required of you. That's it.

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Just say no, you should not firebomb car dealerships because

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you disagree with the owner. But no, she had to

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play what aboutism on January sixth, right, and then claim

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some moral superior position that she occupies because she supports

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free speech and she supports criticism. I think, you know,

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it's not right to be doing the violence, but I'm

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for free speech, and I think we should all support

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criticism and such. And here's Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 1: At the root of modern American progressivism is the suspicion

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at best and the conviction at worst that violence is

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sometimes justified, that riots necessary, and that all these power

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dynamics and hierarchies of grievances that we've been treated to

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for years justify what we see on the streets often

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and here at car dealerships. It's absolutely astonishing to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that there is this suspicion or admission or acknowledgment

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or acceptance that sometimes this kind of violence is okay

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for us to do against you guys. Ever okay for

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you to do against me, obviously. But you know, if

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you're not doing what I demand you do, well, then

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I mean you kind of have it coming, right. I mean,

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I'm not going to do what you tell me. You

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want me to do. I'm just going to resist, and

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that's the morally superior thing to do. But because you're

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a Nazi, a fascist, literally Hitler and Stalin and Mao

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all rolled into one, I don't have to listen to

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you and your directives. Even though you may have won

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the election, even though you may control the halls of

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Congress and can write laws and such. I don't have

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to listen to you. And if you try to tell

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me to do stuff that I don't want to do,

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then I'm going to burn down your house, right like.

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That's that's okay for me. It's different for me than

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it is for you. Here's a pete tweet from dude,

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you nailed it. These media outlets are doing their psychological

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conditioning to accept violence as a legitimate response to things

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you disagree with. We need to call them out every day,

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all day for this nonsense. All right, let me go

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over and talk with Mark real quick. Hello, Mark, Welcome

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to the show.

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Speaker 3: Hey, how you doing?

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm okay? What's up?

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Speaker 3: I need somebody. I don't care if it's the CIAFB

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see for police. I need somebody to come on your

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show and tell everybody how come these people aren't locked up.

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If I tell you, I'm gonna come up there and

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blow your Conquista door off, I'm going to jail for

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communicating a threat. How are these people getting away with

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this and they're not locked up. I'm trying to figure

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this one out.

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Speaker 2: That you have to have the will to prosecute. To

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investigate and then to prosecute, you have to have the

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will to do that, and there are too many people

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that do not. There are people in law enforcement and

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in the judicial system, in these prosecutors' offices, they do

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not have the will to do that.

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Speaker 3: They don't want to they need to go.

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Speaker 2: I agree, yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 3: That's it's just like this thing, this thing going on

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with Tesla, it's going on in eleven states that they're

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missing these dealerships. Now that means this is organized crime.

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This is all But you know, it sounds like Jeorge

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Soros to me, well, that it's bought and paid for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's yeah there. I mean, you have a

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couple of things going on at once. You obviously have

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the actors that are doing it right, the attackers, you've

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got them. If they do have any kind of financial

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backing or something, yes, you may have some of that

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money involved, But then you also have this this wink

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in and nod egging on these types of actions. And

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it's coming from all sectors of the left, from Hollywood media,

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the CNN talking heads, it's coming from all of these

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different quote institutions, and it's letting them know that, oh,

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you shouldn't do that, but we understand why you're doing it.

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That's the problem. Mark, I appreciate the caul, sir, and yeah,

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I mean maybe racketeering charges RICO go after people with RICO. Look,

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here's another example here is to Mark's point about the

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Tesla dealerships getting attacked. This is from the Daily Show.

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I don't know who this new host is, Jim.

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Speaker 4: They're taking to the streets or the parking lots. Should

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I be? FBI and ATF now investigating.

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Speaker 8: Multiple cases of possible Listen to the crowd targeting Tesla's

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and cyber trucks.

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Speaker 9: This dramatic video shows multiple cars and flames. Police say

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the attacker used malotov cocktails. It's the latest in more

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than a dozen instances of arson and vandalism targeting Tesla.

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Speaker 8: The same suspect shot more Tesla's with a gun Tesla

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cyber trucks were set on fire in Kansas City, and

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earlier this month, shots fired a Tesla dealership in Oregon,

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cyber trucks on fire in Seattle.

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Speaker 6: Wow, you guys like pettiacs of domestic terrorism.

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Speaker 2: That's the audience at the Daily Show, a liberal talk show, right,

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They're cheering on this kind of violence. Jimmy Kimmel last night, even.

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Speaker 10: Benond incidents of arson. Someone lit a bunch of Teslas

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on fire. And here's the thing I get that people

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are set burning a car might not be great for

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the environment. I don't think that's what they had in

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mind when they invented.

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Speaker 2: The electric car.

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Speaker 10: In Las Vegas yesterday, someone threw a Molotov cocktail at

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a Tesla service center. At least five Teslas blew up,

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one from the molotov and four because that's just what

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Tesla's do sometimes. And no one should be setting fires.

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You could kill somebody, you could hurt somebody. Elon Musk

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might not care about other people, but decent Americans should

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the world's richest man, it Can, has been.

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Speaker 4: Trying to drum up sympathy for himself. Lately. His sales

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are down, his stock is down.

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Speaker 10: Last night, he was somber as he went through this

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with Sean Hannity.

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Speaker 4: Tesla has a peaceful company. We've never done anything hawful.

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I've never done anything hawful. I've only done productive things.

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So I think we just have a deranged there's some

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kind of mental illness thing going on here. Because this

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doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 10: Well, let me see if I can explain it for you.

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When you pull out a chainsaw to celebrate firing thousands.

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Speaker 4: Of people, they get mad. It's just a you know,

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my god.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there you go, this poor guy.

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Speaker 10: You do one, maybe two Nazi salutes. Everybody gets all

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bent out of shape.

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Speaker 2: There you go, that's the wink, that's the nod. It's okay,

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it's all right. I'm not saying we should burn all

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got a message from doctor Paul who says not all

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Tesla dealership owners even care about politics. It's said when

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the Bible, the USA flag, and Tesla define your party affiliation. Now,

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so yeah, I don't really know what to make a

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second part of that, but the first part that is true.

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The Tesla owners like I would guess most of those owners, well,

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I don't know. I don't know what their political affiliations are.

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I don't know what any car dealerships affiliations are. Doesn't

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matter to me. But if you're selling electric vehicles, I

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would imagine the first ones through the door there would

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be people that were probably more on the left than

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the right, just like the Tesla buyers, right, we're probably

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more on the left than the right. Now, of course,

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everything is flipping, and you get all these you know,

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Trump supporters and Elon supporters that are like, we're gonna

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go buy We're gonna buy electric vehicles, and these are

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people that never would buy them. I mean, then you saw,

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well this is Mark Kelly, the Senator from Arizona, and

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he's like, traded it in my Tesla for a Chevy suburban.

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So now you got the lefties that are all going

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and buying gas guzzlers, proving obviously that the whole climate

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change thing they didn't really believe it. It's not one

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of their core principles. As we knew, as we suspected

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at the very least, that this was all virtue signaling,

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it was moral preening. And now they're abandoning the electric

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vehicles for gas guzzlers, you know. I guess they're going

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to penalize Gaya Earth for Elon musk hatred. I don't know,

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but I am usually very specific when I talk about leftists.

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They are not the same as liberal. Leftists are a

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different category. I said this quote yesterday, I will say

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it again, and I will say it probably many many

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times before I die, which is Dennis Prager's quote. Conservatives

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vote their principles. Leftists vote their principles. Liberals do not.

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Liberals vote for the leftists, even though their principles don't

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always really align very well with leftists. But they do

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that because they don't want to admit that they are

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actually closer to conservatives on a lot of these issues

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than they are to the leftists. Right, the new Democrats,

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remember them, main street Democrats, blue dog Democrats, whatever you

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want to call them. Those are the more liberal Democrats.

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Those are liberal Democrats. Leftists are the kinds that are

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throwing molotov cocktails into Tesla dealerships. That's the difference. And

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until the left the Democrat Party, until they get their

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own house in order for this stuff, this will continue,

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all right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you

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