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Speaker 1: Welcome to Political Beatdown. I'm Ben Mysell is joined by

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Michael Cohen. Cohen, you've been involved?

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, here we go, comes out Cohen. You've been involved, No,

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I haven't.

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Speaker 1: You've been involved in a lot of legal cases in

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your time, and a lot involving Donald Trump on both

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civil and criminal sides of the isle. You've testified in Congress.

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You've been involved in big document productions. And look, in

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all seriousness, you are a very good lawyer.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You spent your career as a lawyer, as a litigator,

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as someone who then built up a business of your own,

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were involved in lots of transactions, and so you've been

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involved in document productions are a very big size and

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scale and scope. So when we're talking about the production

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of these Epstein files the handling of them, I've reflected

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on my background as a litigator, where I've been dealing

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with or I've dealt with terabytes of productions, like enough

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documents to fill skyscrapers, and how I would assign a

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team of five associates and that's what they would do

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every day. This was before AI tools, and you would

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go through them with keyword searches. You'd put certain documents

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in different sections, and you know it would take a

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long time, but you know you'd have ninety days. Sometimes

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you may request one extension, but you get it done methodically, diligently,

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and it would get done. I've never seen just from

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structural standpoints, setting aside what we're dealing with here, which

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is a child sex trafficking ring, right, and the fact

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that there seems to be this massive cover up. You know,

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take a basic there is massive cover up. I've never

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seen something handled so bad just at every level to.

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Speaker 2: Cover up or is it in competence or both?

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Speaker 1: I think it's both, and that's where I was going

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with this. Also, I think that there's part of it

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is the cover up, and I think part of it

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is incompetence, and we're seeing and both of those are

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traits of this regime generally. And the way they're dealing

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with this is frankly, how they deal with things abroad,

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their trade negotiating. It's all this is. It is cover up, incompetence,

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quid pro quo, criminality, all of this mix and then

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brutal incompetence.

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Speaker 2: See I turn around and I ascribed seventy five percent

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to criminal to the cover up in twenty five percent

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to incompetence.

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Speaker 1: And I think you know, whether you make that eighty twenty,

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whether you make that eighty five fifty, whatever it is. Yes,

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there seems to be, you know, at its core, this

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massive cover up. But then there also is, like you know,

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they just showed a document right there where on the

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one hand, the Trump regime is taking the position that

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the perpetrators or the people who were not necessarily perpetrators,

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but were who were involved in having conversations with Epstein

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or involved in deals, but and perpetrators all this, that

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all of them are the real victims, that they're the

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ones who need to be protected. But then when you

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go through some of these documents, they'll like, like this

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one over here, they'll like leave a name unredacted but

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redacted in other places. So you could be like, okay, well,

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I see the name right there. You're trying to redact

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it there. And you have Cash Patel testifying and saying

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in the review there was no co conspirators at all

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in the file. At no point in time has the

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FBI and DOJ identified co conspirators, right, That's what Patel

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testified to. When a Republican asked him questions. Right, it

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was Senator Kennedy of Louisiana, Maga, Republican from Louisiana. You

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know in that fake accent that he uses.

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Speaker 2: Well, Cash Cash, Well.

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Speaker 4: What do you do?

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Speaker 1: You know the the name of the guy talks that

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means real voice. And then Cash Patel said in our

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review there were no co conspirators. And then you have

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this document that literally says ten co conspirators. Yeah, and

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so with all of this and I'll pass it to you.

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You know, you have the Trump regime, you know, releasing

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files yesterday more afternoonish, but not on the DOJ website.

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So like we were able to access it because we

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just searched the naming conventions of Batch eight, so we

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saw these. Then they removed it and took it down.

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You're like, why are you taking it down? Then they

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changed the numbers on the documents, so it appeared that

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some of these were deleted because they weren't the same numbers.

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But then it's like, why are you changing the numbers

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over the course of eight hours? And then you find

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a document in there that looks that that raises a

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lot of questions.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we're in a really strange situation right now, Ben,

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And it's really hard to imagine that this is incompetence,

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though some of it might be, much of it is

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about cover up. And I'm really sort of tired right

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because the way that they're doing, as you know, with

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large document productions, it's not as if that thirty days

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is enough time within which to do the proper reactions,

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to do the beta stamping, to put it into a

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file that is searchable, because it is not right now.

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Two different things that need to be discussed here. First

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and foremost, they didn't have thirty days. They've been at

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this since March, so you had all of March, April, May, June,

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to ten months that they had to do these reactions.

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But they didn't do that, all right. Trump signed it

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thirty days ago, December nineteenth. It was supposed to be

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released lo and behold if they needed more time. Something

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that you and every single lawyer knows. If you go

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on the first time around, you say your honor, We apologize,

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but we were unable to produce what we were what

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we are required to pursuing to this order. We need

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an additional thirty days. We need an additional sixty days,

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but by January twentieth, by February first, whatever the date

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would be, we will have everything required. But based upon

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the sheer volume and the importance, the significance in order

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to protect victims, blah blah blah, chances are that the

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judge would have granted that. But instead you got this

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sloppily redacted, non redacted series of documents that they're for

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the stuff that is redacted. There is no reaction sheet

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explaining why the redaction was there, which is also required.

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They're dropping different documents over and over and over against

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So we've now had three different sets of documents dropped

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on our lap. All right, The first set came by

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Foyer to the Epstein a state. Then all of a

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sudden you have the government puts out the next one,

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all right, and ultimately what ends up happening there a

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lot of it is identical to what was originally dropped

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by the Epstein estate. Well, now we have this newest set,

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which is I don't know, a third set of the

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same and more documents that were dropped the first time

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and the second time. So as I'm going through some

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of the documents. I'm saying, wait, wait, I saw this

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not once before, but I've seen this twice before. Am

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I going back to my in the wrong section and zone?

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I want to go and use the search bar and

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see whether or not there's anything there about Trump, about

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Les Wexner, about you know whomever, Bill Clinton, or you know,

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Woody Allen or Larry Summer. I want to see names

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that I'm interested in trying to get an understanding on,

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and so huh, that doesn't work. The photos, documents, emails

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and so on. It's all redundant, and it's so difficult

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because this is a massive, massive amount of documents, And

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I'm saying to myself, could this be just sheer incompetence

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or is it being done within which to overwhelm basically anybody.

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Speaker 4: Unless you have a team of really sophisticated people that

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can go through this. And then ben join me on

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this one for a second, because this one blew my mind.

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Somebody reached out to me and said, you know how

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sloppy the redactions are. I said, no, I'm just trying

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to sort of get my bearings so that I could

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be factually accurate when I'm discussing the issue he goes,

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I'm going to send you two documents. One is the

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redacted document and the other is the document not in

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Speaker 2: Form but unredacted. I said, what are you talking about.

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They use a program that redax it unless you go ahead,

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you copy it and then paste it into notes and

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then it unredacts it for you. Could you imagine that?

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So if there is sensitive information that's on there, there

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is a better than likely chance if you copy that

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document and you paste it into notes, it will automatically

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unredact it. Do you remember when there was that thing

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that took place with Obama's birth certificate when it was

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fake It was generated by wasn't AI because we didn't

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have AI back then, but it was a generated fake

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document and then all you needed to do is to

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highlight on it and then it changed it back to

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the original document, which was somebody else that was changed.

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Do you remember that took place with the birth certificate

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of Obama. Well, it's the same sort of rushed, incompetent

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job they did. And that's the problem when you have

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when you have this sort of group of people who

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are being held to a standard that far exceeds what

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Speaker 1: Level is right. Your buddy Jason Leopold over in Bloomberg,

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his Foyer request showed back in March, there were a

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thousand people FBI DOJ working on this, tens of thousands

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of overtime hours back then. And then the Epstein Transparency

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Act passes over thirty days ago at this point, and

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then another one thousand people are put on it, and

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thousands of people working on it. One hundred thousand documents,

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that's what we're talking about here. Actually not a lot

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of documents in terms of the types of productions that

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in these massive Ponzi scheme cases where I used to

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them I was involved in. It's called Medcap Medical Capital Holdings,

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and they would create these special purpose vehicles, these SPVs

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and read about it It's an interesting case that I

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was involved in, but we dealt with millions of documents,

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tens of millions of documents, and I had a team

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of five. So if you had a thousand lawyers an

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FBI people and they just each looked at one hundred documents, right,

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that could be accomplished in one day. That's one hundred

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thousand documents reviewed right there. Yeah, that's a fairly easy review.

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most diligent and meticulous manner, and they've completely and utterly

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botched it. And the way they've handled it also raises

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these red flags where to the extent they want to

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say right now, look, this docus is what they're saying

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right now that this document that was sent it's a

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letter from that purports to be from Jeffrey Epstein to

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Larry Nasser. Yeah, that was said, and they're out there saying,

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to be clear, this letter is a fake. Look it

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has a Virginia postage on it. That's not where Epstein

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served and looked.

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Speaker 2: Also, is mailed four days after died.

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Speaker 1: Well, look to pull back for a moment, and let's

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remove Epstein. And you know, and again I mean this

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in an endearing way. When you send mail from prison,

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it goes through processing centers. It doesn't get sent out

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the day of. You don't get first class mail service.

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indeed do. It's a hub where mail gets routed and

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it gets sent and whatever. It's not uncommon that it

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would pass through Virginia. Does it mean that that was

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actually sent by Epstein. No, but it's not outlandish that

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someone writing from mcc sending a letter, that letter would

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take several days to leave the prison, that it would

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wind up in Virginia for processing and then be returned

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Speaker 2: Like so it's interesting. I want to just give you

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the person effective on it, as you've been well. I

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also was not permitted to send out mail really, yes,

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believe it or not. But the way that it works

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because of Jeffrey Epstein's high profile, all right, and because

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of you had somebody like Bill Barr as the Attorney general,

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who is as corrupt as anybody that's ever held that position.

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Jeffrey Epstein, it had to go through multiple layers of

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review before which it would ultimately get sent out. So obviously,

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you know, you can't just seal it, otherwise they'll of

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course break the seal and then they'll just scotch tape

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it closed. It probably was read by you know, the

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camp counselor, and then by the case administrator, and then

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by the assistant warden, and then ultimately approved by the

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warden for release for many different reasons, again much of

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which was coming from the weaponization of the Department of Justice.

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So yeah, I agree with you. What I find to

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me to be the most insane thing is everything today

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is AI AI. You don't like something there, it's AI.

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It's AI generated, you know, plain and simple. It's not real.

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The FBI the DOJ released these documents, especially this one

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between Jeffrey Epstein and Larry Nasser. To those who don't know,

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Larry Nasser was the doctor for the gymnastics, the women's gymnastics,

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who was accused and found guilty of sexually abusing a

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bunch of the gymnasts. They're now claiming the underage girls

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there that he was. They're now claiming that that document

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is not real, that it was AI generated and they're

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looking into it despite the fact they're the ones that

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released it.

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Speaker 1: Or or they're just saying that it was fake. Is

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let's read Let's just read their official position, and let's

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first start off with you know, you know, Midas Touch

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was the first to break. We were the first to

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break this story, and I think we did it actually

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in a very responsible way how we reported on it,

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because what we said was this letter was found in

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the production, which it was. We talked about how prior

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Foyer requests from twenty twenty three that the Associated Press

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did mentioned that there was a letter that was found

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between Epstein and Naser, not the actual letter, but emails

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from the Bureau of Prisons right that reference that this

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was uncovered. So we referenced that, and also that the FBI,

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when it found this reported letter from Epstein to Nasser,

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put it in for a forensic analysis of the handwriting

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back in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty and there's we've

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never seen the results of that. There's no document that

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they produced that say the results turned out negative, but

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they were concerned enough about it in real time right

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in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty, that it was found

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in the prison where Epstein was, Like this document wasn't

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found to be clear like in Alaska or in a

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target store, or like it wasn't slipped into the files

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when Epstein allegedly died by suicide. This was at that prison.

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So could another inmate learning that Epstein died by alleged

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suicide have wrote this and set this thing in motion?

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Could it have been another prisoner from another location that

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set this It's a pretty complicated thing to think about,

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especially if you don't know.

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Speaker 2: The logical Why are we wasting our time talking about

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something that's as logical as building a spaceship in your

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backyard and using rubber bands to launch you into out

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of space?

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Speaker 1: And so you know, now the DOJ is actually responding

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like a Twitter troll, like a PR crisis management to

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the Midas post. So moments ago, the DOJ responded to Midas,

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And let me just be very clear why, Like you're

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the DOJ, why is the DOJ responding to Midas touch

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posts with the The DOJ is not supposed to be

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a criminal defense firm or a civil defense firm or

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a legal firm for the President.

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Speaker 2: Ben. Can you read the usdj's statement, right.

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Speaker 1: I do, but I want to show you to the

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so first what they did. What they did is they

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put out a statement at ten thirty am. And here's

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what they're ten thirty am said. And then I'll tell

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you what they're twelve twenty seven said. And this is

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why they don't have any credibility in anything. So at

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ten thirty am they go. The Department of Justice is

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currently looking into the validity of this alleged letter from

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Epstein to Nasser, and we will follow up as soon

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as possible. In the meantime. Three facts stand out. The

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postmark on the envelope is Virginia, not New York, where

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Jeffrey Epstein was jailed at the time. That's you and

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I just discussed that that is actually not a red

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flag for this being false. In fact, it actually is

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indicative that it may actually be accurate. I don't know

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one way or another, but it being from Virginia or

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being processed in Virginia is actually not a red flag

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if you know the way prison mail works. The next

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one it says the return address listed the wrong jail

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where Epstein was held and did not include his in

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mal number, which is required for outgoing mail. It was

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returned to sender. The envelope was processed three days after

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Epstein's death. The processing, as you know, Cohen, actually is

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not a red flag because the processing of prison mail

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takes many days. So they put that out and I'm like, okay, great,

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you want to conduct a thorough investigation. Well, first off,

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where is the FBI's analysis that they said they were

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doing in twenty nineteen. We don't have that. Wasn't that

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the analysis? Okay, So you're doing analysis now right before

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Christmas Eve, December twenty third. So, Cohen, how long do

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you think the analysis would take in something like this

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to get it to the right types of people who

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do signature analysis and handwriting, Like, what's your expectation of

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a thorough investigation into this? What do you think it would.

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Speaker 2: Take three hours?

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Speaker 1: Well, for the Trump regime, it took them ten thirty

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to twelve twenty. They come back and they go The

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FBI has now confirmed this alleged letter from Epstein to

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Nasaus fake. The fake letter was received by the jail

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flagged for the FBI at the time. The FBI made

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this conclusion based on the following facts, the writing does

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not appear to match Jeffrey Epstein's. Okay, so then show

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us the report of the handwriting expert that wasn't produced

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with this. Where was the we know the FBI made

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this analysis back then, that's not in the production the letter.

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Then it's just the things that they said in their

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social media posts. So they determine an.

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Speaker 2: Issue as well, what do you say, I have one

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additional issue here, tell me all right, first and foremost,

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why is it in the FBI file? Then altogether, they

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are the ones that released it. They when they released it,

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they didn't release it and say or have it stamped

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that this is a fake or a fraud. They released it,

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and then ultimately because people picked it up and it

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became a story that now all of a sudden you

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get the usual words coming. It has been confirmed. Therefore, Ben,

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you don't need because the DOJ has now confirmed that

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it's a fake, you don't have to check. You don't

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have the right to ask any additional questions. Just accept

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their response to it and move on. That's the whole point. Look.

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Speaker 1: Roger Sullenberger, who also reported on this moments ago, wrote

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the following this morning, DOJ tweeted that some Trump allegations

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in today's batche were false no specificity, and they decide

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to specify this letter hours later. FBI requested a forensic

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handwriting analysis in twenty twenty, but DOJ's new tweet explaining

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its conclusion does incite an analysis. The White House would

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like to make it seem impossible to tell what's credible

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versus what is incredible, and they will happily shape this

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release to try to discredit responsible journalists trying in good

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faith to report accurately and evenly about what is included

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in the docs. Maybe the forensic analysis confirmed it's not

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Epstein's handwriting. It would be nice to know that. But

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you take a look not just at that document right there,

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you take a look at some of the other things

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that were part of this Batch eight. And let's pull

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up this right here, which is a subpoena in connection

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with Delane Maxwell's case to mar Alago. A subpoena by

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the Southern District of New York to mar Alago you

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see right here, dated October fifth, twenty twenty one, summoning

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them to produce records and to show up all any

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and all employment records relating to redacted. That's Trump's like home,

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Like just think about like, it's not shouldn't be a home.

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You know, it's the resort where recharges membership. But his

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home was subpoened for employment records in connection with Delane

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Maxwell's child sex trafficking case where she was convicted. Then

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there is this document right here, sent January eighth, twenty twenty,

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and this is from federal prosecutors to each other. It says,

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for your situational awareness, wanted to let you know that

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the flight records we received yesterday reflect that Donald Trump

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traveled on Epstein's private jet many more times than previously

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has been reported or that we were aware of, including

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during the period we would expect to charge in a

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Maxwell case. In particular, he is listed as a passenger

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on at least eight flights between nineteen ninety three and

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nineteen ninety six, including at least four flights on which

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Maxwell was also present. He is listed as having traveled with,

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among others, and at various times, Marlon Maples, his daughter Tiffany,

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and his son Eric on one flight in nineteen ninety three,

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though he and Epstein are the only two listed passengers.

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On another the only three passengers are Epstein, Trump, and

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then twenty year old This is redacted. On the other

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two flights, two of the passengers, respectively were women who

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would be possible witnesses in a Maxwell case. We've just

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finished reviewing the full records, more than one hundred pages,

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a very small script, and didn't want any of this

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to be a surprise down the road. In connection with

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Bannon's build the Wall scheme case, they found a photo

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of Donald Trump and Gilane Maxwell. You know there, and

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you know, you know, I think it's fair to say,

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and I think we always have to be very careful

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in reporting it.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Just because you're in a photo with someone isn't indicative

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of guilt, isn't indicative by guilt of association. But this

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constant barrage here of every step of the way, calling

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the Epstein files a hoax, not turning it over, the

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drips and drabs, all of this behavior is just not

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normal behavior.

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Speaker 2: So what it does is it leads to more questions

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by like our brigaders and other people that are interested

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in the truth. They want the facts, They want to

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know what really took place and what didn't In fact,

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you know, people are right now clamoring because the as

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we will all say, the victims deserve to have the

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truth put out there. But we don't get that. What

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you get is you get one cover up after another bend.

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And what that does is it just makes the whole

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thing uglier, dirtier, and messier. And it just makes Trump

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look guilty. Whether he is or he isn't. That we

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will see when ultimately all the files come out. But

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the fact that they're hiding things the way that they are,

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it just gives the presumption of guilt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and where are all of the FBI witness statements

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and survivor statements. What you would do is you would

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redact the name of the survivor or the witness or

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the victim, and you would produce them. That's what this

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law requires, and it doesn't require you to remove the

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entire statement. We should protect the identity and release it.

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None of those have been produced. When I spoke to

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congress Member Roe Kanna, what he had said is those

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are actually the most important documents. He wanted to see

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the draft indictments, He wanted to see the FBI witness statements,

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and he wanted to see all of the FBI reports

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on this matter. We basically have none of those right now,

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and here we are December twenty third, and the DOJ

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is on social media going after Midas and other reporters

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who are accurately just reporting on what the documents say,

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and if they were if they released everything, and just

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imagine this con and then we'll take our first and

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only break of the show. But imagine they did a

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press conference. We're releasing everything. We want to let you

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know that there are high profile individuals who are mentioned

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in here. Everyone should be given the presumption of innocence.

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That's our system that we have. Photographs are not necessarily

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guilt by association. We are comfortable that after a thorough review,

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that the people will be able to just make that

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discernment because we trust in people's intelligence. We've made a

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diligent effort to redact all of the names of the

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victims and the survivors. We have not redacted the name

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of men who are friends with Epstein or who were

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perpetrators or co conspirators with Epstein. Their names will be

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out there. There may be subsequent investigations that may be

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taking place, but that this is the status of it.

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You now have everything. And look, Trump made what I

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just said there his signature like that was like his

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signature issue. It was one of his key issues. Yep,

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it was not the key issue of Biden. By the way,

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there was still a criminal case pending against Elane Maxwell

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when Biden was in office where you couldn't turn over

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these But it wasn't his. It wasn't that it This

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was Trump's thing, Like he was the guy who weaponized

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Epstein against his political enemy. That was his thing.

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Speaker 2: So when we come back after the break, Ben, I

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actually want to talk about some of the photos that

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have been released and why there are things that can

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obviously be deduced from them despite the fact that they

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are not there's no full context to it, but that

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there's enough, which is why I believe that the Trump administration,

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why the DOJ, why the FBI must release all the

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files redacted only the names of the victims, all right,

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Other than that, everything has to because every single day,

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00:31:16,599 --> 00:31:19,759
when more and more documents are released, whether it's by

478
00:31:19,799 --> 00:31:24,359
my buddy Leopold through feuer requests from the estate or

479
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,000
by the DOJ, or just simply documents that somehow get

480
00:31:29,079 --> 00:31:34,160
dumped into the system, again. It makes Trump look more

481
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,839
and more guilty, plain and simple.

482
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,519
Speaker 1: Here's an interesting development, and this network I think is

483
00:31:41,599 --> 00:31:46,279
on the front lines of this reporting. Quite literally. We're

484
00:31:46,319 --> 00:31:51,920
being attacked by the DOJ quite literally. Ro Conna and

485
00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:55,079
Democratic Congress member who worked with Thomas Massey to put

486
00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:59,839
forward this discharge petition. So Conna spoke with me, Yes,

487
00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:03,119
everybody should go and watch. Make sure you're subscribed by

488
00:32:03,119 --> 00:32:04,839
the way to the Minas Dutch YouTube channel. You may

489
00:32:04,839 --> 00:32:07,079
think you're subscribed, but you may not actually be subscribed,

490
00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:11,279
So just just double check. He said. We broke this

491
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:16,240
news on Midas that there are FBI whistleblowers do J

492
00:32:16,519 --> 00:32:22,480
whistleblowers right now. We're looking for protection from Congress who

493
00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:25,200
know what's up. Let me show you what Conna told

494
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:27,359
me yesterday. We got that clip. Let's play that, Jeremy,

495
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,480
if we got it. I don't know if you can

496
00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:34,799
share this, but any f I don't know if you

497
00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:39,400
can share this, but any FBI whistle blowers or DOJ

498
00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:45,720
whistleblowers who maybe on the horizon who's upset about the

499
00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:46,880
way this was hand to do may.

500
00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 5: We've had some approaching the our office and the committee.

501
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,599
I obviously can't get into get into the details. But

502
00:32:56,279 --> 00:33:00,559
there are people who are upset about the non compliance

503
00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:03,000
with the law and they don't want to be held accountable.

504
00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:06,279
Right anyone who is at the just Deepartment who's involved

505
00:33:06,279 --> 00:33:09,359
with this, who's not complying, could be prosecuted for obstruction

506
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,960
of justice. Now, Pam Bondi's not going to prosecute them,

507
00:33:12,079 --> 00:33:14,680
and Donald Trump isn't going to have an attorney general

508
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,880
who prosecutes them. But you know, in twenty twenty nine,

509
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,400
we're going to have a democratic president, and that democratic

510
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,240
president is going to have an attorney general, and that

511
00:33:23,319 --> 00:33:26,519
attorney general is going to prosecute the law, not out

512
00:33:26,519 --> 00:33:29,839
of vindictiveness, out of just saying that you can't commit

513
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:30,400
crimes and.

514
00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:31,119
Speaker 1: Get away with it.

515
00:33:31,319 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 5: By the way, I think that should apply to crimes,

516
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,319
not just in violating the Epstein Transparency Act. I think

517
00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:38,759
it should have applied to crimes with ice crimes in

518
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:41,720
terms of the strikes in the Caribbean, we need accountability

519
00:33:41,799 --> 00:33:44,799
before reconciliation. So if you're at the Justice Department and

520
00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:47,599
you know that you're violating the law, you probably don't

521
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:51,039
want obstruction of justice charges brought against you. And that's

522
00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:53,079
why I think more and more people are speaking up.

523
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,839
Speaker 2: It's true. By the way, it's one hundred percent true.

524
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:03,400
The only person who has immunity, remember from that stupid

525
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:08,440
Supreme Court decision, is the President himself. He's the only one.

526
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,639
Heg seth can ultimately be charged for these illegal strikes

527
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:17,960
on these vessels or when I received, well, yes, except

528
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,360
chances are before Trump ends up leaving, he will do

529
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,880
a blanket pardon to everyone, very similar to what he

530
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,440
did with the sixteen hundred. You know, I just wanted

531
00:34:27,519 --> 00:34:30,320
to say quickly before we go to break. You know,

532
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,320
when I was talking about the photos right where you

533
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:38,159
have Trump in these photos on aircraft, and there's five

534
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,159
or six or eight young girls.

535
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: Look, that's just be clear, you got it. He's taken

536
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,360
a lot of photos with young girls. There's a few

537
00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:54,039
on the airplane that I think are ultimately AI photos.

538
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 2: So you know, oh, well, no, no, there are some

539
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,079
that are not all right, there are somewhere he is

540
00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:02,719
with young girls. And now I'm going to acknowledge You're

541
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,440
right there are some that are AI, that they're fakes

542
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,639
and so on, But there are a lot of photos.

543
00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:11,280
The point I'm trying to make regardless of whether they

544
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,519
were in an office or regardless of whether they were

545
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,559
in Epstein's home, regardless if they were on an aircraft

546
00:35:18,639 --> 00:35:21,880
or in a car, doesn't make a difference. Gotta be

547
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:27,440
honest with you, how are you not thinking to yourself,

548
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,800
what are these children doing here? I mean, this isn't

549
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:37,480
a bar mitzvah. This isn't a confirmation right, This isn't

550
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:42,039
a sweet sixteen party that he somehow was invited to

551
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,880
because it's a family friend. This is a trip on.

552
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,800
Whether it's an aircraft, a car, in an office of song,

553
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,280
what are these kids doing? See? Trump's not stupid. It's

554
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,159
not like he was oblivious to the fact that the

555
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:03,039
children I've never been to a party right of a

556
00:36:03,079 --> 00:36:06,800
friend of mine in a house, And yeah, maybe their

557
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,320
kids were there with a couple of their friends, but

558
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,199
didn't have strange kids who are completely unrelated to anybody

559
00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:17,480
at a party just simply hanging out. And that that

560
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:22,000
is the part that again we need the full context.

561
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:27,039
Speaker 1: Look, I think what you say there hasn't really ever

562
00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:29,800
been said. I know it has not, but not with

563
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,760
that level of kind of clarity, which is to simply say,

564
00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:38,239
what do you think was happening when these young girls

565
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,199
were there, What do you when they were at Marra

566
00:36:40,199 --> 00:36:44,400
a Lago, when they were in the pool together, when

567
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,119
they were when there were parties of these girls who

568
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:51,119
were models right for these different pageants and stuff, and

569
00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:55,760
they were at an age range between fourteen and twenty eight,

570
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,119
but really when you do an analysis, it was really

571
00:36:59,159 --> 00:37:06,840
more between like sixteen and twenty one. What grown man

572
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,400
does that in your forties and your fifties, which is

573
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:18,039
when he was friends with Epstein and when he was

574
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:23,039
with these girls. So the question to be asked that

575
00:37:23,079 --> 00:37:25,840
no one's really ever asked him at a press conference, though,

576
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:31,559
is you know you did you did hold parties and

577
00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:35,679
you you attended or hung out with young girls when

578
00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:39,719
their parents weren't there, Like, just do you think that

579
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,639
that's something that forty should.

580
00:37:42,559 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 2: Have possibly triggered a thought that there shouldn't be you

581
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,559
shouldn't be going on here.

582
00:37:48,679 --> 00:37:50,639
Speaker 1: Like you wouldn't be you know, like if I was

583
00:37:50,679 --> 00:37:53,840
invited to an event and I show up, you know,

584
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,400
at my neighbor's event and it's all a group of

585
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,679
eighteen to twenty two year old girls and three or

586
00:37:59,679 --> 00:38:03,880
four men, you have a it's a choice to stay

587
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,920
there and say you know what this is? This is

588
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:08,559
you get the hell out of it. You don't, you

589
00:38:08,559 --> 00:38:11,599
don't go in there, right, And so you know, we

590
00:38:11,639 --> 00:38:14,559
did a video on this and by the way you

591
00:38:14,599 --> 00:38:17,840
report it also what's going on? We did a video

592
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,920
on this on the Midas Touch network where we show

593
00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:23,840
these pageants that he would do with these little girls,

594
00:38:24,119 --> 00:38:26,159
and we have the videos of them. And it was

595
00:38:26,199 --> 00:38:29,800
the Look of the Year contest. The Guardian did a

596
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,199
very good article on it, but we unearthed the videos

597
00:38:33,199 --> 00:38:35,400
and I think it's got like five point five million

598
00:38:35,519 --> 00:38:39,960
views or something right now on YouTube where it was him.

599
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:45,800
I think it was Jean Luke Brunell. It was the

600
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,159
guy who ran Elite Model Management. I'm drawing a blank,

601
00:38:50,039 --> 00:38:56,119
John Casablanca. You know. It was it was like this crew, right,

602
00:38:56,199 --> 00:39:00,920
and you have these girls who look fourteen, fifteen, sixty seventeen,

603
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,719
you know, maybe at the oldest twenty two, you know,

604
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,880
in bathing suits walking around him being on a yacht,

605
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,280
like you know, he's on a yacht, you know.

606
00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:15,159
Speaker 2: But can I push back here for a quick second,

607
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,880
because the Look of the Year was a real event

608
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:22,719
that was a part of Ford Model Agency called Ford's

609
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,559
Look of the Year, where it was this contest so

610
00:39:26,599 --> 00:39:29,559
to speak, where they found the model of the year

611
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,320
and so on, gave them a big Ford contract and

612
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,760
so on. So it was with elite, elite models. I'm sorry, elite, right, right, right,

613
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:44,920
elite ultimately right, maybe he was a judge for it

614
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,599
and so on. You know that, I don't see the

615
00:39:49,639 --> 00:39:54,199
problem of being around it was a legitimate you know,

616
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,119
the look of the year. The elite model's Look of

617
00:39:56,159 --> 00:39:59,440
the Year was actually a legitimate you know thing. Now

618
00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:02,440
what they would doing for it, that's a whole nother story.

619
00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:06,400
But being a judge at a Look of the Year

620
00:40:06,559 --> 00:40:12,880
contest that that's not the part people need to focus on.

621
00:40:14,119 --> 00:40:17,159
Speaker 1: The question is though, and when you watch the videos

622
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:22,320
that we put up there, first off, just the idea

623
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,599
of fourteen year old girls and fifteen year old girls

624
00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:28,840
in bathing suits walking around men, like, let's be start

625
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:33,599
with that premise. But second part of what they would

626
00:40:33,639 --> 00:40:37,079
do after is you know, the after parties and the

627
00:40:37,159 --> 00:40:40,719
way people described what would happen at the after parties

628
00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:45,920
on the yacht and you know, and I'm not suggesting

629
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,480
that Trump Dody did this or didn't do it at all,

630
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,760
but the reporting of also what went down with that?

631
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:57,880
It said men old enough to be their grandparents would

632
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,920
be grinding on them and set you know, would be

633
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,400
grinding on the girls on on the yachts. I think

634
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,920
it was the spirit of New York. People should read

635
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,119
the Guardian piece and you should watch didn't it.

636
00:41:09,159 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 2: Actually Casablancas end up marrying some one of the one

637
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,719
of the winners, and so I think she was fit.

638
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,679
Speaker 1: Hell you know, so he so he died, so two things.

639
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,000
So Jean Luke Brenell, who was involved in the underage

640
00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:26,639
sex trafficking, he died in France in prison, in similar

641
00:41:26,679 --> 00:41:33,480
circumstances to Epstein, very suspicious death by suicide. Casablancis allegedly

642
00:41:33,559 --> 00:41:36,920
died of I think throat cancer twenty you know, around

643
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,679
that time. And Casablancis was with like fifteen year old

644
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,719
girls and sixteen year old and he married like a

645
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,880
sixteen year old girl, which was his section. Here what

646
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,280
that is? Okay, we have to take our first break. Break. Okay,

647
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,119
we're taking a break. When we come back, we will

648
00:41:54,199 --> 00:41:58,719
talk about the Supreme Court's ruling against the Trump regime. Reminder,

649
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make sure you subscribe to this YouTube channel subscribe to

650
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652
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on substack. Let's take that first quick break, two finger salute.

656
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When we come back, and we'll talk about the sprime

657
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court ruler.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Political Beatdown. So I'm gonna give you

725
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,440
some options to give this two fingers. So first let

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00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,679
me show you Jdvans. He's an option. We'll be interactive

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00:46:57,679 --> 00:47:01,079
with the audience here. So jdvans at that Turning Point

728
00:47:01,159 --> 00:47:04,599
Bizarro event that they held in Phoenix this past weekend.

729
00:47:04,679 --> 00:47:09,360
So he's giving a speech there and Nicki Minaj called

730
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,960
him the Great Assassin to Erica Kirk, and then she's like,

731
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,480
oh my god, I can't believe I called him an

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00:47:14,519 --> 00:47:17,880
assassin at an event like this. So JD. Vance, Let's

733
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,559
see what he has to say. He talks about that

734
00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:23,639
the great news about the Trump regime is that you

735
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,760
don't have to apologize for being white anymore. I know

736
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,199
that was a big issue for you, Cohen and a

737
00:47:29,199 --> 00:47:32,440
lot of other people, and this is what the Trump

738
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,719
regime has addressed right here. I mean, the level of

739
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,119
racism is just off the charts. Here, play this clip.

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Speaker 5: In the United States of America, you don't have to

741
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,880
apologize for being white anymore.

742
00:47:48,679 --> 00:47:51,559
Speaker 1: Your other option is Erica Kirk from the same event,

743
00:47:52,039 --> 00:47:55,440
who described someone who was on stage with her as

744
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being just like Charlie the biggest grift I mean gift,

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00:48:00,519 --> 00:48:04,079
I mean grit. Ever here, listen to what she had

746
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to say here, Play this clip.

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Speaker 3: Despite the devastating loss of Charlie Kirk, my incredible husband

748
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:15,079
at UVU, Caleb has persisted with the same grift. Excuse me,

749
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:22,840
gift grit. It has been a long day. Trust me,

750
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You're not a grifter, honey.

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Speaker 1: It's all good. You You've got Nicki Minaj, this special

752
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guest at this bizarro event. Basically, in my opinion, looks

753
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like she's threatening the life of California Governor Gavin Newsom.

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Here's what she says here play this clip.

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Speaker 6: Well, mister Newsom, Dan Newscomb, we don't have a problem

756
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:59,840
cleaning up the scum if we have to please tread lightly,

757
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That's what I would say to Gaby Pooh.

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Speaker 2: And then and then took a question that I was

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thinking when I watched that, and I did watch it.

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The fuck is Nicki Minaj right? She? I mean she

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could sing I get it. Gives a shit what Nicki Minaj,

762
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who was a half in the bag moron? But that

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she turned on saying, I mean, I'm, I'm there's no

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point go ahead, keep going because I know my two

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finger salutes going to.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'll give you one that you're not going

767
00:49:32,599 --> 00:49:34,840
to do, even though you give it to him every day.

768
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Donald Trump threatening to invade Greenland for national security. Here's

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Donald Trump saying, we need to take over Greenland. Let's

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play it.

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Speaker 2: But he he felt very strongly we needed for nationals.

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We need Greenland for national security, not for minerals.

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Speaker 1: We had some. We have so many sites for minerals

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and oil and everything.

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Speaker 5: We have more oil than any other country in the world.

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Speaker 1: We need Greenland for national security.

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Speaker 2: And if you take a look at Greenland, you look

778
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up and down the coast, you have Russian and Chinese

779
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ships all over the place.

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Speaker 1: Or you have Barry Weiss, the new editor in chief

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at CBS, who killed the sixty minutes episode on the

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conditions in El Salvador at the Seacot where the Trump

783
00:50:21,159 --> 00:50:27,119
regime tortured these Venezuelans who suffered physical torture, sexual torture

784
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at Seacott. Sixty minutes did an expose on it. Barry Weiss,

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who's now the head of CBS, because she's focused on

786
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what the Trump regime wants her to do, and CBS

787
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has sadly become regime television, she killed the segment. So

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those are your options.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let me be crystal clear that it is a

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toss up. First of all, Nicki Minaj, who I don't

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particularly care for her music anyway, but the fact that

792
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one she's threatening newsome why she clearly is trying to

793
00:51:02,039 --> 00:51:05,880
get the attention of Trump number two. All right, the

794
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:11,559
stupidity that she utters is just again, I don't understand

795
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why she's even there. They're looking to try to build ratings,

796
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and so they bring her on. But then you have

797
00:51:19,079 --> 00:51:23,599
Barry Weiss who ends up doing what we need to

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00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:28,079
all fear in this country, and that is state sponsored media,

799
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which is exactly what they have for example in Russia,

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or China, or North Korea or you know in Saudi Arabia.

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00:51:35,159 --> 00:51:38,360
It's all state sponsored where you can't say anything or

802
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,159
do anything without the supreme leader, the monarchy, dictator, the

803
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:47,480
ruler unless you get their say, otherwise you can get jailed. However,

804
00:51:48,039 --> 00:51:53,480
Barry Weiss, in her infinite stupidity all of CBS. That

805
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:58,639
entire episode was actually aired in Canada on streaming, and

806
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,800
so just as soon as people pople we're watching it,

807
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they started videotaping it and so and now it is everywhere.

808
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,480
So who gives two shits about CBS. We're all putting

809
00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:11,960
it out there. Thanks to places like Midas Touch Network,

810
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:16,400
where you have independent journalism, you're not worried about Oh,

811
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,039
the FCC's gonna come shut you down. Right, You're not

812
00:52:20,159 --> 00:52:24,599
going and paying money to this administration because you need

813
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,880
something from the FCC and if you don't, you're not

814
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,679
gonna get it. So to Barry Weiss for being a

815
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fucking moron and not even realizing that that segment was

816
00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:38,360
already out there for all of us to see. And

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once you see it, unfortunately you can't unsee it. Fuck you, Barry.

818
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,199
To Nicki Minaj for being just the idiot schmuck that

819
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,760
you are stick to singing, because when it comes to politics,

820
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,000
you're as fucking stupid as anybody I've ever met. So

821
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to you two, Nikki, that one's for you, Barry Weiss,

822
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,079
to you, fuck you both.

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Speaker 1: The idea of Michael Cohen giving Nicki Minaj and Barry

824
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,239
Weiss a two finger salute would not be on my

825
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:13,039
bingo card before Christmassy? Where are you going to be?

826
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Speaker 2: Ben?

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Speaker 1: On December twenty third, at two to twenty five pm Eastern,

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I'm going to be sitting with Michael. Imagine if you

829
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told you told me this in twenty twenty, twenty eighteen

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or twenty seventeen, Ben, where are you going to be

831
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,639
in seven years from now or eight years from now,

832
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,880
you're going to be hosting a show with Michael Cohen.

833
00:53:34,119 --> 00:53:36,880
This is when you worked for Trump. Okay, and what

834
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,840
are you going to be doing? You and Cohen are

835
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,239
going to be having a segment where you give people

836
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,039
the two finger salute. Okay, so we give them middle fingers.

837
00:53:46,519 --> 00:53:48,920
Is it like a big audience? Yet, you guys are

838
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,000
going to have one of the biggest YouTube channels in

839
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,119
the world. Okay, I'm thinking about it.

840
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Speaker 2: Rushes it. By the way, Nicki Minaj is just she's

841
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,320
a trash big yeah.

842
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: Well, who are you gonna give the two fingers salute to?

843
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:07,039
Well Nicki Minaj and Barry Weiss, Well, why well, they've

844
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created state regime media and you're gonna be living in

845
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an authoritarian country.

846
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Speaker 3: Uh.

847
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Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj is now going to be with the regime.

848
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,920
Barry Weiss is gonna be running state regime media. It's

849
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,199
like it's like Biff with Back to the Future.

850
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Speaker 2: It's all right, you know.

851
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Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, it's interesting times we live in, but

852
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,280
times we live in where we fight together as a

853
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,800
community each and every day and we fight back against

854
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,320
this horrific and terrible regime. Let me quickly just remind

855
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,239
everybody about what happened with the Supreme Court moments ago.

856
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Although we have a full hot take on it on

857
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:46,159
the YouTube channel. The Trump regime suffered a huge loss.

858
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As Kyle Chenny reports, the Supreme Court ruled that the

859
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Trump administration lack the authority to federalize and deploy the

860
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National Guard to patrol in Illinois. And it's seems to

861
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have pretty far reaching applications. This ruling to say that

862
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in the statute, in order to federalize the National Guard,

863
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:16,000
it basically says that you would have to require that

864
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you be able to You couldn't do this other than

865
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by the regular forces of the United States Military. And

866
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what the Supreme Court says is that based on the

867
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circumstances here, you did not need the unite the record

868
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before it, you do not need the military to be

869
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dealing with these issues. That the National Guard is part

870
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of the military, it's part of the armed services, and

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this and under the posse combatatis and and just the

872
00:55:45,639 --> 00:55:48,599
Constitution in general, this is not the role of the

873
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of the military. So its implications are actually to me

874
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,280
beyond in Illinois. It impacts other you know, impacts all

875
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of what Trump's doing. I find it interesting that Jeff

876
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:05,400
lamb Injury, who is the governor of Louisiana, basically called

877
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,719
the National Guard on himself in New Orleans right after

878
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,719
this ruling. And he's a guy who Trump appointed to

879
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conquer Greenland. I guess when we asked the twenty seventeen

880
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version of me, oh, he's gonna, well, he's gonna want

881
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to conquer Greenland. Yeah, and he's calling Canada the fifty

882
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,079
first state. Okay, So that's where we're at right now, Cohen.

883
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But look, we approach Christmas Eve with a country in shambles,

884
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:37,000
but with the people being resilient. The people have stayed

885
00:56:37,039 --> 00:56:40,719
strong throughout all of this. This community has continued to grow.

886
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,519
And that's where we are as we approach Christmas Eve,

887
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,480
as we approach the new year. And it's an honor

888
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to host this show with you, Michael Cohen.

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Speaker 2: So it's an honor to be with you. It's an

890
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,639
honor to have been with Midas touched since literally the

891
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,119
day that you guys, that you and the boys, the

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00:56:57,119 --> 00:57:01,880
brothers started, you know, like family. And I'm thankful, you know,

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00:57:02,039 --> 00:57:05,159
for all of you, for this network, for all of

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00:57:05,199 --> 00:57:08,679
our brigaders and the various supporters that we have, whether

895
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,840
it's our YouTube channel, whether it's here on Midas Touched

896
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,320
Network with our political beatdown. I may occulpe on Friday,

897
00:57:15,519 --> 00:57:18,599
I actually have what do you call it? I have

898
00:57:18,639 --> 00:57:22,400
a parness Aaron Parnis on with me. It's very interesting,

899
00:57:23,039 --> 00:57:28,039
very interesting conversation. He's truly a very you know, very

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00:57:28,039 --> 00:57:33,719
interesting young man, son of my buddy Lev Parnish. And

901
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,039
you know all the various things that I do, Ben

902
00:57:36,159 --> 00:57:39,360
with you, and you know with our brigaders, and you

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know all of all of you. And so I want to,

904
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like Ben, just wish each and every one of you

905
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a very merry Christmas. To those that are celebrating Knakah,

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I hope you had a wonderful Hanukah, and everybody please

907
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be safe, most importantly and have a very happy and

908
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,800
a very healthy New Year. And I I promise you

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as we continue and Midas Touch Network continues to grow

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day after day after day after day, as long as

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we keep our foot on the guests. Twenty twenty six

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belongs to us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, everybody. We appreciate you. Everybody hit subscribe. Let's

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for you. Have a great one. Merry Christmas, Happy Hanikah,

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Happy Kwan's great to have you part of this community,

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whether you celebrate any of these holidays or not. Thank you,

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thank you, thank you. We'll see you next time. On

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Speaker 2: Another right hand