WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.919 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:05.360 A M. Six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on 3 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:08.560 demand on the iHeartRadio app. There was a foreign policy 4 00:00:08.599 --> 00:00:11.720 expert who went on Fox News and said, something is very, 5 00:00:11.839 --> 00:00:13.919 very wrong in Beijing right now. 6 00:00:14.240 --> 00:00:15.839 It's where we kick off swamp watch. 7 00:00:15.960 --> 00:00:18.160 Oh I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheap and 8 00:00:18.239 --> 00:00:21.199 a liar. And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing 9 00:00:21.199 --> 00:00:21.879 their lollipops. 10 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:25.039 Yeah, we got the real problem is that our leaders 11 00:00:25.120 --> 00:00:25.600 are done. 12 00:00:25.640 --> 00:00:26.960 The other side never quits. 13 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:31.719 So what I'm not going anywhere? So that is how 14 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:33.280 you train the swap. 15 00:00:33.320 --> 00:00:35.600 I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by 16 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:38.079 what has been. You know, Americans have always been going 17 00:00:38.280 --> 00:00:40.399 a president. They're not stupid. 18 00:00:40.479 --> 00:00:43.399 A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth. 19 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:46.520 Havether people voted for you were not swamp watch. They're 20 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:47.240 all countering. 21 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:52.119 So we have been following this standoff between the United 22 00:00:52.159 --> 00:00:58.240 States and China when it comes to tariffs. China has 23 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:01.039 advanced this year's stimulus plan, but it's holding off on 24 00:01:01.159 --> 00:01:06.920 fresh measures. It's trying to maintain composure, betting on Washington 25 00:01:07.040 --> 00:01:12.799 blinking in the first protracted trade war. They pledged on Friday, 26 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:18.040 the Communist Party's elite to support firms and workers most 27 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:22.879 affected by the triple digit US tariffs on Chinese goods, 28 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:26.920 but stop short of announcing additional deficit spending. So they're 29 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:31.640 going to bolster the industries hit hard, but they're not 30 00:01:31.920 --> 00:01:38.079 banking on being put in the red over this. There 31 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:42.120 is a as I mentioned, and a foreign policy expert. 32 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:46.439 His name is Gordon Chang. He's calling this end of 33 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:50.599 regime conduct. He went on Fox News and said, as 34 00:01:50.719 --> 00:01:53.719 is time when China needs friends, because it's not selling 35 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:56.439 goods to the US. It's going out of its way 36 00:01:56.439 --> 00:01:59.640 to antagonize not just the Philippines, not just Taiwan, but 37 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:03.599 also South Korea and Australia. Chang is a senior fellow 38 00:02:03.640 --> 00:02:07.079 with Gatestone Institute. He said this shows that this is 39 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:10.719 end of regime conduct because Shi Jinping he can't appear 40 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:15.960 to be giving into the US now. Trump, for his part, 41 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:18.840 on Friday, told reporters from the White House lawn he 42 00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:24.400 has spoken to Shijinping many times, and when. 43 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:27.159 Pressed on it, well, what have you guys talked about? 44 00:02:27.199 --> 00:02:29.000 He said, you know, when the time comes, I'll let 45 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:30.879 you know at the appropriate time, is what he said. 46 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:32.680 Let's see if we can make a deal. 47 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:38.439 Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yee said on Friday that Beijing 48 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:41.759 backs international rules when it comes to tariffs, and that 49 00:02:41.840 --> 00:02:47.000 the US levy show extreme egoism and that they're going 50 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:50.439 to be looking China is for solidarity with other countries. 51 00:02:51.120 --> 00:02:55.159 It's a very delicate dance between we're looking for solidarity 52 00:02:55.560 --> 00:02:59.520 and antagonizing them at the same time. I mean, I. 53 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:01.479 Guess it's you have to do to be a world bully. 54 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:03.159 I was just going to say, that's the dance that's 55 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:06.240 been called for, that that's the way that they've been 56 00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:06.599 doing it for. 57 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:11.240 Aijing has publicly denied any ongoing negotiations with Trump. 58 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:13.800 Yeah, and I don't know. 59 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:16.599 No one seems to be holding his feet to the 60 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:19.800 fire about that. About okay, well, then what was in 61 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:22.000 the phone call. I mean, you're he has said, in 62 00:03:22.039 --> 00:03:24.800 the appropriate time, they'll give out the information. 63 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:28.000 But it seems a little strange. 64 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:30.879 Today, President Trump is planning to sign an executive order 65 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:34.520 directing the Attorney General and Secretary of Homeland Security to 66 00:03:34.639 --> 00:03:38.520 identify within a month the cities and states that do 67 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:42.039 not comply with federal immigration laws. Last week, a judge 68 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:46.199 blocked Trump's administration from withholding federal funds from more than 69 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:50.039 a dozen so called sanctuary jurisdictions that have declined to 70 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:53.919 cooperate with the hardline immigration crackdown. That was one of 71 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:59.159 the big headlines today was that the administration was deporting children. 72 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:02.479 And I don't know if you saw the story specifically, 73 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:06.319 but the borders are. Tom Holman is saying that due 74 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:10.000 process was applied when a two year old US citizen 75 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:15.360 was moved to Honduras along with her mother. A Louisiana 76 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:18.000 judge wrote an order Friday that there was strong suspicion 77 00:04:18.040 --> 00:04:21.079 that the government deported a US citizen with no meaningful 78 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:24.360 process because the two year old was sent to Honduras. 79 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:27.079 But the two year old was sent to Honduras with 80 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:30.000 her mother and her eleven year old sister, so she 81 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:33.279 wasn't going alone, among other things. And in fact, Tom 82 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:37.000 Holman this morning, in a very bright and early news 83 00:04:37.079 --> 00:04:40.079 conference before you woke up, said it wasn't us that 84 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:42.199 made the decision to kick out a two year old. 85 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:44.639 If you choose have a US citizen child knowing you're 86 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:47.480 in this country. Legally, you put yourself in that position, 87 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:50.519 you put your family in that position. What we did 88 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:53.759 is removed children with their mothers who requested the children 89 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:57.720 to depart with them. This is a parmal decision parenting 90 00:04:57.759 --> 00:04:59.800 one on one. The mothers made that. 91 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:03.480 And then a quick wrap up the big Washington Post 92 00:05:03.519 --> 00:05:07.959 poll that suggested that President Trump is facing growing opposition, 93 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:11.759 that he's underwater in a lot of the campaign issues 94 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:15.120 that he had been campaigning on in terms of approval ratings, 95 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:17.920 that he is at the lowest approval rating we've seen 96 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:20.560 among presidents for the last one hundred years or so 97 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:22.839 when it comes to one hundred days in office. And 98 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:26.040 I saw a graphic that, again that's a Washington Post 99 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:28.639 ABC News pool. I saw a graphic that said that 100 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:33.240 the highest recorded rating of a president approval rating for 101 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:36.439 a president at the one hundred days mark was John F. 102 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:36.959 Kennedy. 103 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:42.279 So, if if Trump is right now below fifty percent, 104 00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:47.120 below forty percent, what do you think Kennedy's was at 105 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:47.959 one hundred days? 106 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:52.560 What was Kennedy's approval rating? Give it a guess. 107 00:05:55.399 --> 00:06:02.959 Forty eight, wrong, thirty two wrong, oh higher, seventy six. 108 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:05.160 Close, eighty three I feel like you can't compare. 109 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:07.720 I can't, and I wanted to say, I wanted to point. 110 00:06:07.560 --> 00:06:10.360 The way the news works. It's like the news cycle 111 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:14.000 used to be months. Right now it's ours. 112 00:06:14.199 --> 00:06:17.319 And I think part of part of what has changed 113 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:21.240 between Kennedy and Trump, I mean just the decades that 114 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:25.279 exist between those two is people are a lot more comfortable. 115 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:29.120 I'm assuming here because I wasn't alive in nineteen sixty one, 116 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:35.879 but people are a lot more comfortable criticizing the president vocally. 117 00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:38.680 It's not just a thing you do in your kitchen thing. 118 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:43.040 People are doing it publicly now. Whereas before the office 119 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:48.120 itself was respected, the office, the title, the character that 120 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:50.639 was somebody who became president. There was a lot of 121 00:06:50.680 --> 00:06:53.360 a respect that went into it. And for over the 122 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:58.040 course of decades that has been sort of chewed away 123 00:06:57.639 --> 00:07:00.839 by I don't know, by public says however you want 124 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:03.439 to put it, Yes, but that eighty three percent, some 125 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:06.879 of the automatic respect that's built in is just built 126 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:10.240 in because remember, Kennedy was criticized for being a Catholic. 127 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:13.240 Of all things, you're the first Catholic president and people 128 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:15.199 didn't like that, and he still got eighty three percent. 129 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:18.680 All right, we come that Laboo boo. But is that 130 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:19.360 how you say it? 131 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:23.240 I think you're going to really take to the Labubu sensation. 132 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:25.839 Is there a picture of him? 133 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:26.279 Yeah? 134 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:28.560 Oh there it is. It's a man Chi chi. 135 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:30.759 I don't know what that is. 136 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:33.079 Oh, well, we're about to bridge generations. 137 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:37.680 Yeah, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from 138 00:07:37.800 --> 00:07:39.360 KFI AM six forty. 139 00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:43.720 There were hundreds of people in front of the pop 140 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:48.639 Mart store in Los Angeles at four forty five am 141 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:52.680 on Friday. Who gets who gets out of bed at 142 00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:55.680 quarter to five to already be in line at a store? 143 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:57.000 What are you buying? 144 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:02.199 Some people brought stools chairs to sit on. They brought 145 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:05.800 snacks and drinks. Some people had been there since ten 146 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:10.639 pm the night before. What did they want? Well, they 147 00:08:10.680 --> 00:08:13.079 wanted to get their hands on the latest series of 148 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:17.680 a new key ring doll called the La Booboo. 149 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:24.639 This this is how China is winning. 150 00:08:25.959 --> 00:08:28.560 This is the Hello Kitty universe, is it not? 151 00:08:29.079 --> 00:08:29.759 I don't think so. 152 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:30.560 Yes. 153 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:34.320 The dolls belong to a tribe called the Monsters. These 154 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:37.360 are the latest in a long line of iconic collectible 155 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:39.960 characters from Asia, including Hello Kitty. 156 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:40.480 Oh, which is. 157 00:08:40.480 --> 00:08:44.720 They're not in the Hello Kitty universe. She's the matriarch. 158 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:51.600 They're calling her of these other little monsters Sunny Angel, 159 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:57.360 Guda Tama. They're fuzzy. 160 00:08:57.440 --> 00:09:01.679 The Lububoo dolls are fuzzy little Nordic elves with snaggletoothed, 161 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:06.600 mischievous grins and impish ears. They're all female. I'm out 162 00:09:06.879 --> 00:09:09.159 kind hearted with the female thing. 163 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:11.440 Oh, I time that wrong. 164 00:09:11.639 --> 00:09:14.559 Sorry, you like your stuffed animals to be little boys? 165 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:20.399 Okay, he made it weird. They're all female. 166 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:23.600 They're kind hearted, but sometimes as they go about spreading joy, 167 00:09:23.639 --> 00:09:28.320 they get into trouble, well intentioned trouble, though it's never malicious. 168 00:09:29.240 --> 00:09:31.919 They were conceptualized back in twenty fifteen by an artist 169 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:35.759 born in Hong Kong, Casing Lung. Began as characters in 170 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:40.200 a children's book series, and then they decided to turn 171 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:44.799 the storybook elves into collectible designer toys. When it says designer, 172 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:49.000 how much of these things go for? Oh, thirty dollars? Yeah, 173 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:51.480 but listen, thirty dollars for one of these things? 174 00:09:51.519 --> 00:09:54.159 What? They're ugly little troll thing. They looked like a 175 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:55.759 teletubby and a troll had. 176 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:59.960 A baby beanie babies went for cheap until you bought it, 177 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:02.840 and then you could resell it for a ridiculous amount 178 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:03.279 of money. 179 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:04.879 I remember covering those stories. 180 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:07.360 One of the first few stories I did when I 181 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:11.039 moved to Seattle was someplace in h I don't know, 182 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:13.159 a Federal way or rented like that. 183 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:15.279 Was that around the mid nineties, something like that. 184 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:18.960 Late nineties, late nineties, And I just remember that, did 185 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:23.200 you have interviewing the yes, the whole time, interviewing these 186 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:27.879 grown people, at least physically grown people standing in line 187 00:10:27.960 --> 00:10:31.639 for this stuff. Now, I actually, because I have never 188 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:34.440 heard of la boo boos before, I was watching a 189 00:10:34.519 --> 00:10:37.519 video about this and it described that one of the 190 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:41.679 things that makes this so collectible and has generated such 191 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:44.759 a buzz is you don't know which lub boo boo 192 00:10:44.759 --> 00:10:47.039 you're going to get when you buy it comes in 193 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:48.919 a box that you don't get to see what it is, 194 00:10:49.480 --> 00:10:52.639 Almost like I don't know baseball cards for the last 195 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:54.440 hundred years, you didn't know which ones you were going 196 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:56.039 to get, and that's why you went and got all 197 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:59.480 the different packs and the hard pink gum that would. 198 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:00.000 Crush your teeth. 199 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:00.360 M h. 200 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:05.559 They despite the fact that these are produced now in China. 201 00:11:06.360 --> 00:11:09.919 Those mystery boxes have been outlawed in China because they 202 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:13.360 consider it a form of gambling. And kids have been 203 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:16.919 cutting school in China to go to their PopMart stores 204 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:20.080 or whatever the equivalent there is in China and buy 205 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:24.399 these boxes and hope they get the right l boo boo, 206 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:29.960 whether it's Spooky or Potto or Zimomo or Taykoko. 207 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:34.360 Which one do you like? I knew you'd like Taekoko most. 208 00:11:34.200 --> 00:11:37.879 Masculine enough, though, speaks to me for you. But this 209 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:40.919 is this is like Manchiici. And I know you didn't 210 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:43.600 never know what man Chichi was, but that was a 211 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:47.960 that was a good eighties character. They didn't have a 212 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:50.559 bunch of them, but they had some of them. It's 213 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:54.039 a it was a stuffed monkey toy back released in 214 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:57.720 seventies in the first place, licensed by Mattel. In nineteen 215 00:11:57.720 --> 00:12:02.960 eighty five, they produced five television. 216 00:12:02.480 --> 00:12:04.919 Shows based on Manchici. Wow five. 217 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:07.120 Think about what we could do with mister bumber Puss. 218 00:12:08.240 --> 00:12:12.240 I can't imagine. You can't. I can't. I don't want to. 219 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:14.879 I think you're going to look back when you're in 220 00:12:14.919 --> 00:12:18.639 your deathbed and your great regret. Regret in life is 221 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:20.600 going to be not capitalizing. 222 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:23.440 It's gonna be a couple of surprises on our retirement. 223 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:29.559 You're like, I call it bumber puss. Oh, that makes 224 00:12:29.559 --> 00:12:32.759 a lot of sense. Now, okay, now I came. 225 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:36.519 Up with that name, so that makes it weirder and 226 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:37.679 nobody does what we talk about. 227 00:12:38.080 --> 00:12:39.360 Uh, and that's good. 228 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:44.320 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 229 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:45.480 AM six forty. 230 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:55.679 Some neuro divergent non neurotypical people have abilities that you 231 00:12:55.759 --> 00:12:56.480 and I don't have. 232 00:12:57.039 --> 00:12:59.679 I had never heard that, and I've seen this podcast 233 00:12:59.759 --> 00:13:02.399 pitch to me before on you know podcasts you may 234 00:13:02.559 --> 00:13:06.879 like popular podcasts, the Telepathy tapes. I did not know 235 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:11.080 that they involved a group of non speaking autistic people 236 00:13:11.559 --> 00:13:14.320 that are reading minds of dead people. 237 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:17.559 Is that right? No? Of everybody? 238 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:17.759 Oh? 239 00:13:17.799 --> 00:13:18.480 Of everybody? 240 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:20.480 Is there dead? Are there dead people involved? 241 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:21.240 I don't. 242 00:13:21.480 --> 00:13:22.000 I don't know. 243 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:24.519 Oh I said I see dead people because of the 244 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:26.159 thing that I wrote. 245 00:13:27.320 --> 00:13:29.360 That's the only one you said I see dead people. 246 00:13:29.480 --> 00:13:32.279 I thought both included them talking to dead people. 247 00:13:32.360 --> 00:13:34.759 I just mean it's that much of a realization for 248 00:13:34.840 --> 00:13:37.679 somebody that goes through this. I see so this this podcast, 249 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:41.399 the Telepathy Tapes about the telepathic abilities of non speaking 250 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:45.159 autistic people, and has been gaining a lot of publicity 251 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:50.879 and therefore a lot of listenership. And there these are people. 252 00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:58.159 These are families uh with non speaking autistic people who 253 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:04.639 believe that they're non speaking autistic family member, son, daughter, brother, whatever, 254 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:12.240 can actually read minds. And they are saying things through 255 00:14:12.279 --> 00:14:17.039 different vehicles of language. They're saying things that are raising 256 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:21.360 questions of how in the world would they be able 257 00:14:21.399 --> 00:14:22.039 to know things? 258 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:22.679 I mean. 259 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:29.159 Katie asher Is is the main player here. Katie has 260 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:33.639 a son named Houston. When he was seventeen years old, 261 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:38.039 he was a big boy. You're talking six feet two 262 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:43.200 hundred pounds man sized, seventeen year old and out of 263 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:45.000 control physically. 264 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:46.879 He couldn't speak. 265 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:51.720 He smeared his pooh everywhere. He bit on his own 266 00:14:51.799 --> 00:14:56.279 hands so hard that Mom could hear bones grinding. He 267 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:59.799 would grunt, he would tantrum all night long, no one 268 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:02.919 in family could sleep, and he would run everywhere he 269 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:06.639 went around the house away from Katie. At the age 270 00:15:06.639 --> 00:15:08.639 of three, he ran into the street and was hit 271 00:15:08.679 --> 00:15:11.240 by a pickup truck, to the point where she had 272 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:17.720 to install locks on her doors, and she, as a 273 00:15:17.759 --> 00:15:22.480 mother was coming to this very dark realization that her 274 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:25.840 son was dangerous and she was the caretaker for the 275 00:15:25.879 --> 00:15:27.159 rest of his life. 276 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:32.039 But then came one day when she's in the living 277 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:37.000 room and he says the first sentence he has ever spoken. 278 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:40.480 And what is that sentence? Mama, I love you. 279 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:44.519 Now you can imagine if that is your child's first sentence, 280 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:48.159 and that is the sentiment of the sentence, that you're 281 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:51.559 going to do everything in you in your power to 282 00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:55.240 see how we can get him to communicate more, communicate again. 283 00:15:55.639 --> 00:15:56.279 And she did. 284 00:15:56.360 --> 00:16:01.600 She went through everything, integration therapy, music, there, biofeedback therapy, 285 00:16:01.960 --> 00:16:05.960 different methods, went to all the best speech and occupational 286 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:11.720 therapy clinics. Then a friend suggested that Katie and Huston, 287 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:14.360 her son try a form of communication in the autism 288 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:17.879 world known as spelling. It has them work together as 289 00:16:17.879 --> 00:16:23.840 a team. Mom's role was communication partner, so she held 290 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:26.720 in the air a board or a stencil covered with 291 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:29.480 letters of the alphabet and numeral zero to nine, and 292 00:16:29.679 --> 00:16:32.240 his role is a speller where he used a pencil 293 00:16:32.279 --> 00:16:34.480 to point to letters on the board to make words 294 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:35.120 he wanted to say. 295 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:36.240 Kind of like a Ouiji. 296 00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:42.000 Board, Yeah, or somebody who's also noncommunicative for whatever reason. 297 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:45.519 Als is probably an example of that, where you have 298 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:48.720 a computer where that person can spell, either using their 299 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:54.039 eyes or a straw or something like that to spell 300 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:59.120 out individual words. Very very slow, painstaking process, but it 301 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:02.159 allows them to commute Kate. She would do this for 302 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:05.680 hours at a time, and she would read a topic. 303 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:08.400 She'd read something and then ask a question. So she'd 304 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:12.319 read about stars and she would say or astronomy and 305 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:14.359 say a constellation is made up a group of what? 306 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:19.799 And he would spell out stars. 307 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:23.680 So they became one instrument, like the cello and the bow. Now, 308 00:17:24.079 --> 00:17:27.920 three months before Houston's birthday at twenty two, she held 309 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:30.440 a letter board and he spelled I'm special, and she said, 310 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:33.759 of course you are, and then he spelled this I 311 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:34.880 can hear thoughts. 312 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:40.079 What Now. 313 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:44.920 That's particularly terrifying because remember she had had some pretty 314 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:45.720 dark thoughts. 315 00:17:46.079 --> 00:17:47.519 She had been run down. 316 00:17:47.880 --> 00:17:50.960 She had been terrified at the prospect that she was 317 00:17:51.000 --> 00:17:54.680 going to have to caretake for this boy that was 318 00:17:54.759 --> 00:17:59.359 never going to mature mentally into a man that could 319 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:05.200 take care of himself. And it was hard, probably a 320 00:18:05.240 --> 00:18:08.599 struggle that very few people could ever wrap. 321 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:09.119 Their heads around. 322 00:18:10.279 --> 00:18:14.599 And she thought that this was the end of it, 323 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:19.759 because if he really could see and hear the doubt 324 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:23.359 that was going on in her mind, what was his 325 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:24.279 life going to be like? 326 00:18:27.319 --> 00:18:30.720 The telepathy was a huge asset for mom. It turned 327 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:35.119 out he'd hand her her purse if she forgot it 328 00:18:35.160 --> 00:18:38.559 while she was running out the door, or he'd spell 329 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:42.279 something insightful like those are rotten thoughts, and he'd be right. 330 00:18:46.559 --> 00:18:48.519 She said, The big news is not the fact that 331 00:18:48.599 --> 00:18:52.119 he could read minds in her mind. She said, the 332 00:18:52.119 --> 00:18:56.920 big news was that thoughts are real, that thoughts abide 333 00:18:56.960 --> 00:19:01.240 by natural law. Thoughts can be received by someone else 334 00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:07.400 like we would receive visual information or audible information. Somehow 335 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:15.799 Houston was receiving this brain thought information, and she said that. 336 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:18.279 She asked him how it felt to go through the 337 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:22.079 world in his body. The reporter asked him that, and 338 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:24.079 Katie picked up the letterboard and as he pointed to 339 00:19:24.119 --> 00:19:26.759 the pencil with his letters, she would call them out, 340 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:35.799 and she said, having to hear is being present with 341 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:44.359 feelings pain, cruelty, and love, and loss and faith and 342 00:19:44.440 --> 00:19:50.880 weariness and loneliness. When asked about how he felt, about 343 00:19:50.880 --> 00:19:54.200 the word telepathy. He spelled the word bold. 344 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:01.279 So the Telepathy Tapes highlights people like Houston. It's a 345 00:20:01.319 --> 00:20:06.599 podcast documentary project and it claims it explores the claims 346 00:20:06.599 --> 00:20:09.279 of this telepathic ability and non speaking individuals. 347 00:20:09.680 --> 00:20:11.759 It's interesting, particularly those with autism. 348 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:15.160 And it's interesting because you know where you can't speak, 349 00:20:16.319 --> 00:20:19.279 You know, when you lack one sense, your other sentences 350 00:20:19.319 --> 00:20:22.240 are heightened. So in this case, you can't speak, So 351 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:27.200 the muscle of you being intuitive maybe is takes on 352 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:30.440 that much more strength, to the point of it's not intuition. 353 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:34.119 It's not you're in you're noticing what somebody is feeling 354 00:20:34.519 --> 00:20:35.160 or thinking. 355 00:20:35.400 --> 00:20:36.920 It's just that on steroids. 356 00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:39.720 I did it a vent in Seattle one time. Friend 357 00:20:39.720 --> 00:20:44.279 of ours has a son with autism, and she described 358 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:48.720 to me what she thinks was is going on in 359 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:52.480 her son's brain. And she described it as if it's 360 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:57.880 a fully functional person, fully neurotypical person that is then 361 00:20:58.200 --> 00:21:00.920 caught in some kind of a chef. She actually used 362 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:06.400 the term box, and they can't interact with their surroundings 363 00:21:06.519 --> 00:21:08.880 the way you and I would. We don't have that 364 00:21:09.000 --> 00:21:12.079 box around us, so we can interact with we can 365 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:14.480 talk to we can see, we can hear, we have 366 00:21:14.759 --> 00:21:19.559 the sense sense of touch and smell, and he doesn't. 367 00:21:19.640 --> 00:21:24.720 He didn't have those same capabilities that we did, which 368 00:21:24.759 --> 00:21:27.640 made it difficult for him to read verbal cues or 369 00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:32.880 nonverbal cues for him to interact with friends at school. 370 00:21:32.920 --> 00:21:35.519 He didn't quite get the same thing because he was 371 00:21:35.559 --> 00:21:40.519 dealing on a detached level from everybody else. And if 372 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:47.000 that's the case, if somebody who's autistic is neurotypical somewhere 373 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:51.200 down deep inside, and you're able to unlock that in 374 00:21:51.279 --> 00:21:54.079 some way or at least get into it in a 375 00:21:54.119 --> 00:21:57.480 way where in this case, Houston is able to spell things, 376 00:21:58.359 --> 00:22:01.799 and it may take some time, but he can have 377 00:22:01.960 --> 00:22:06.240 those thoughts and thought processes that we just assume they 378 00:22:06.319 --> 00:22:06.880 didn't have. 379 00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:10.559 A lot of people are calling bs on this podcast, 380 00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:16.160 and the idea of this that if you have autism, 381 00:22:16.279 --> 00:22:19.359 at least some people who have autism have the ability 382 00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:23.319 to read minds. They've actually had a bunch of naysayers 383 00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:27.519 on said podcast, as I understand it as well, But hey, 384 00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:30.039 if you're looking for a miracle in what is a 385 00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:35.160 very difficult life raising your child, embrace that love that 386 00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:38.200 I love that for you who cares. 387 00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:39.039 What anybody else thinks. 388 00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:41.000 Yes, I do. 389 00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:42.599 You have that relationship with your kid. 390 00:22:42.519 --> 00:22:48.079 And your kid can read minds at least to some degree. 391 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:51.279 Who cares if it's a phenomena, if it's something that 392 00:22:52.839 --> 00:22:53.799 other people think is. 393 00:22:53.759 --> 00:22:58.200 Real or not? All right, up next, very eating that. 394 00:22:58.160 --> 00:23:02.960 Woman's life raising him was incredible. 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